Physics FAQ

  • What is the difference between Physics 40 and Physics 41?
  • What is the difference between Physics 10 and Physical Science 11?
  • How do I get a prerequisite block removed?
  • Can I take Physics 4C and Physics 4D at the same time?
  • Do I have to take the lab?
  • Can I get AP credit?

 

What is the difference between Physics 40 and Physics 41?

Physics 40 and Physics 41 are designed for students who would like to take the physics 2 series or the physics 4 series, but have never had a physics class before, or would like a refresher course.  Both classes are transferable to the UC or CSU systems.  Typically students are encouraged to take physics 40 as preparation for the physics 2 series and physics 41 as preparation for the physics 4 series.  Physics 41 is generally taught at a higher math level and includes some reference to calculus. If you are planning on taking the Physics 4 series but cannot fit PHYC 41 in your schedule it would be appropriate to take PHYC 40.

What is the difference between Physics 10 and Physical Science 11?

Both classes are conceptual introductions to physics or physical science. Emphasis on topics that lead to a better understanding of our technological society and physical environment. Both Conceptual Physics and Conceptual Physical Science were developed by Paul Hewitt an emeritus professor of Physics at CCSF. Neither course has a math prerequisite although ratios and some simple algebra are used so there is a math advisery attached to each: see catalog for current adivseries. Equations are used as guides for thinking and not for "plug and chug" exercises.

Conceptual Physics covers topics in physics including motion, forces, energy, heat, sound, light and nuclear physics. Conceptual Physical Science covers a shorter version of the physics topics in addition to topics in Chemistry, Earth Science, and Astronomy.

How do I get a prerequisite block removed?

If you received a message when you register that states that you have a pre-requisite block and you feel that it is an error, please contact the department chair.  This may happen if you have taken a course at a different school and you have not transferred the course to CCSF.  If that is the case, send a copy of your transcript, your CCSF student ID number, and the CCSF physics course that you would like to add to the department chair.  It can usually be cleared up within a day or two.

Can I take Physics 4C and Physics 4D at the same time?

Strong students may be allowed to take the last two semesters concurrently. The lab class is a co-requisite of its corresponding lecture and a required component for transfer in almost all cases.  Contact the department chair if you believe you may be an exception.

Do I have to take the lab?

Physics 10 and Physical Science 11 lectures may be taken with or without the correspnding lab. Whether you need to take the lab depends on your program of study, and you are strongly encouraged to consult with a councilor to see whether you need to take the lab. Generally for an associates degree at CCSF you only need the lecture to satisfy GE area C, but some specific programs such as Diagnositc Medical Imaging require the lab as well. The California State Unviersity System and University of California system generally require at least one science class with a lab. This may be satisfied by taking Phyiscs 10 lecture and lab (PHYC 10 and 10L), or Physical Sciecne 11 lecture and lab (P SC 11 and  11L). Student may enroll in  PHYC 10L or P SC 11L concurrently with the lecture, or in a subsequent semester.

For the Physics 4 and Physics 2 series slab classes are strongly advised. Nearly all programs that require the Physics 2 or 4 also require the lab as well. Further more the labs may be prerequisites for other courses in the sequence. Putting off or skipping the labs for these course may seriously delay students from completing their programs.

Can I get AP credit?

The policy for AP tests is in the CCSF Catalog. Currently a score of 3/4/5 on the Physics 1, 2, C Mechanics, or C Elect. and Magnetism may be used for 3 untis towards CCSF GE Area C

For course equivalency please contact the department chair. The reason for the consultation with the department chair is that AP test policy varies widely for different 4 year institutions, and it is possible that students could wind up in a position of having to go back and retake courses.