SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, JUNE 24, 2010 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO GOUGH STREET CAMPUS 33 GOUGH STREET SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 NATALIE BERG 7 ANITA GRIER 8 CHRIS JACKSON 9 MILTON MARKS III 10 STEVE NGO 11 JOHN RIZZO 12 LAWRENCE WONG 13 14 15 DR. DON Q. GRIFFIN, CHANCELLOR 16 LEILANI BATTISTE, GENERAL COUNSEL 17 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUNE 24, 2010 3 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, JUNE 24, 2010, 2 COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 6:45 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY COLLEGE 3 OF SAN FRANCISCO, 33 GOUGH STREET, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD: 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUNE 24, 2010 4 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I 2 WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF 3 TRUSTEES OF THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. 4 WE ARE MEETING TONIGHT AT 33 GOUGH STREET AND IT IS 6:45. 5 CHANCELLOR, IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PRESIDENT MILTON MARKS. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: HERE. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: VICE PRESIDENT JOHN RIZZO. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: (NO RESPONSE.) 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: HE'S COMING. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. NATALIE BERG. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: HERE. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. ANITA GRIER. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: HERE. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE CHRIS JACKSON. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (NO RESPONSE.) 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE STEVE NGO. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: (NO RESPONSE.) 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE LAWRENCE WONG. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: HERE. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY 22 FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESENT. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A 25 QUORUM. JUNE 24, 2010 5 1 IF YOU COULD RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, 2 PLEASE. 3 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: COUNSELOR BATTISTE, ARE THERE 5 ANY REPORTS FROM CLOSED SESSION? 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE NO 7 REPORTS FROM CLOSED SESSION. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9 WE HAVE ALLOTTED TEN MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT 10 AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETINGS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON 11 OUR AGENDA. I HAVE TWO YELLOW CARDS. IF ANYBODY ELSE 12 WANTS TO GIVE ME ONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. EACH PERSON 13 HAS TWO MINUTES. 14 THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE IS LOUISE WILLIAMS. 15 IS SHE HERE? 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: I THINK SHE WAS HERE EARLIER. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, WELL, LET'S JUST LEAVE 18 THAT IN CASE SHE COMES BACK. 19 WILL MAYNEZ. 20 MR. MAYNEZ: GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, 21 CHANCELLOR AND THE BOARD. 22 I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP. ON YOUR 23 TABLE YOU SHOULD HAVE A FLIER FOR A CONCERT THAT WE ARE 24 HAVING AT THE DIEGO RIVERA THEATER ON AUGUST 28TH AT 25 7:00 P.M. SPONSORED BY ELENA DURAN, A VERY FAMOUS JUNE 24, 2010 6 1 FLAUTIST, WHO IS DONATING HER PERFORMANCE HERE IN 2 CELEBRATION OF THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE MURAL AND THE 3 75TH OF THE COLLEGE, THE 100TH OF THE MEXICAN REVOLUTION 4 AND THE 200TH OF MEXICAN INDEPENDENCE. 5 THE MC WILL BE HENRY RAMOS. HE'S BEEN A 6 CONSULTANT TO US FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WHO RECENTLY 7 GOT NAMED TO THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS AT THE STATE COMMUNITY 8 COLLEGE. THE CHANCELLOR AND THE MEXICAN CONSUL GENERAL 9 WILL BE THE COVER POST. AND THE GUEST OF HONOR WILL BE 10 DIEGO RIVERA'S DAUGHTER GUADALUPE RIVERA. SHE'S FLYING IN 11 TO HOST A NUMBER OF EVENTS WE ARE DOING IN FUND-RAISING TO 12 SUPPORT THE CONSERVATION OF THE MURAL. ALL THESE EVENTS 13 ARE BEING DONE AT NO COST TO THE COLLEGE. THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND THE DATE IS AUGUST 28TH, AT 16 7:00 P.M. 17 MR. MAYNEZ: YES. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: COULD YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE 19 BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS? 20 MR. MAYNEZ: ELENA DURAN IS A VERY INTERESTING 21 PERSON. SHE IS A CHICANA FROM OAKLAND, WHO BY THE TIME 22 SHE WAS 20 WAS LECTURING THE FLUTE AT STANFORD AND WENT 23 AND BECAME JAMES GALWAY'S ASSISTANT. SHE IS DIRECTOR OF 24 THE INTERNATIONAL FLUTE FESTIVAL IN STRATFORD-UPON-AVON. 25 SHE'S PERFORMED FOR THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND TWICE WITH PAUL JUNE 24, 2010 7 1 MCCARTNEY. AND NOW SHE RESIDES IN MEXICO CITY, RECENTLY 2 NAMED MUSICAL AMBASSADOR OF MEXICO CITY. SO IT'S QUITE A 3 NICE KUDDO FOR THE COLLEGE THAT SHE COME HERE AND HELP 4 CELEBRATE OUR ANNIVERSARIES. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: SOUNDS EXCITING. THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: ATTILA GABOR. 7 MR. GABOR: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. 8 I HAVE A SMALL REQUEST, BUT FOR MANY OF US IT'S 9 VERY IMPORTANT. IF IT'S POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE FOR THE 10 TRUSTEES TO LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY NOT TO HAVE A 11 COMMITTEE MEETING WHEN IT'S ELECTION NIGHT BECAUSE MANY OF 12 US WHO COMMUTE AND NEED TO BE AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING, 13 IT'S PREVENT US FROM VOTING THAT DAY. 14 WHEN I POINTED THAT TO SOME PEOPLE, THEY WERE 15 HAPPY TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS SUCH A THING AS ABSENTEE 16 BALLOT AND OTHER THINGS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WHO 17 POINTED IT OUT WERE AMERICAN BORN. 18 FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME WHO CAME TO THIS COUNTRY AS 19 A REFUGEE, THE FACT THAT I CAN GO TO VOTE IS A HUGE 20 PRIVILEGE AND I'M EVEN PROUD OF. 21 SO IF IT IS POSSIBLE, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES 22 THERE ARE VARIOUS REASONS WHY IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO HAVE 23 THE MEETING ANY OTHER NIGHT. BUT IF IT'S POSSIBLE, WOULD 24 IT BE -- I JUST IMPLY THAT IF YOU COULD MOVE IT TO ANY 25 OTHER NIGHT, BUT ELECTION NIGHTS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. JUNE 24, 2010 8 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 2 SO IS LOUISE WILLIAMS HERE, OR SHOULD WE MOVE 3 ON? 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: SHE'S NOT HERE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA -- 6 ACTUALLY, BEFORE I DO THAT, IS JEFFREY HERE? I 7 WAS GOING TO WELCOME HIM. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: HE WAS. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: HE IS OUT THERE. WE WILL DO 10 IT WHEN HE GETS BACK. 11 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR MAY 27TH, 2010 12 MEETING. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 16 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE RIZZO. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: BEFORE YOU VOTE, I RECUSE MYSELF. 18 I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE MEETING. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND I ALSO. I WAS NOT HERE ON 21 THAT DATE, SO I WILL RECUSE MYSELF. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: WELL, THEN WE ARE GOING TO 23 HAVE TO HOLD OFF BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, THEN WE LOSE A 24 QUORUM. SO WE WILL WAIT TO SEE -- I KNOW THAT TRUSTEE 25 JACKSON IS COMING BACK, SO WE WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES JUNE 24, 2010 9 1 WHEN HE COMES BACK. 2 BUT I DID WANT TO WELCOME JEFFREY FANG, THE 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH 4 YOU AND LEARNING FROM YOU AND TO FIGURING OUT WAYS THAT WE 5 CAN TOGETHER MAKE CITY COLLEGE THE BEST PLACE POSSIBLE, SO 6 THANK YOU AND WELCOME. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU, MILTON, FOR 8 RECOGNIZING ME. AND I'M ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE 9 CHANCE OF WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: COUNSEL BATTISTE, ARE THERE 12 ANY CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA AS ORIGINALLY 13 PUBLISHED? 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEAH. SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT 16 CHANGED? WOULD THAT BE EASIER? 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THAT'S PROBABLY AN EASIER 18 QUESTION TO ANSWER. 19 YES, MR. PRESIDENT, AS FAR AS REVISED 20 RESOLUTIONS: 21 B1, IT'S ACTUALLY AN "AUTHORIZATION FOR 11 NEW 22 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THAT ARE NO MORE THAN $15,000 FOR 23 THESE SPECIAL SERVICE CONTRACTS, NO MORE THAN $60,000 FOR 24 A TOTAL OF $225,866. THESE CONTRACTS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO 25 THE FORMAL BIDDING REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUBLIC CONTRACT JUNE 24, 2010 10 1 CODE." THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE FIT COMMITTEE. 2 RESOLUTION B9, "AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE 3 CONTRACTS UNDER $60,000 CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS." 4 RESOLUTION F4, "ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT 5 EDUCATIONAL ADMINISTRATOR, ASSOCIATE DEAN OF STUDENT 6 ACTIVITIES." I BELIEVE THE NAME HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE 7 RESOLUTION ARE IN YOUR PACKETS OR AT LEAST WHAT YOU MAY 8 HAVE TODAY. 9 RESOLUTION F5, "ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENT 10 NON-EDUCATIONAL ADMINISTRATOR, CHIEF INFORMATION 11 TECHNOLOGY OFFICER." 12 RESOLUTION S16, "RECOGNIZING MEI MA, OUTGOING 13 PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS OF THE 14 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS." 15 RESOLUTION S20, "RECOGNIZING YAHAIRA PASTOR" -- 16 AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY MISPRONUNCIATIONS -- "OUTGOING 17 PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS OF JOHN ADAMS." 18 AND FOR THE ADDED RESOLUTIONS, FASTEN YOUR SEAT 19 BELTS: 20 F8, "ADMINISTRATIVE EDUCATIONAL POSITION 21 TRANSFER OF DEAN SOUTHEAST CAMPUS TO THE DEAN OF STUDENT 22 AFFAIRS." 23 F9, "ADMINISTRATIVE EDUCATIONAL POSITION 24 TRANSFER OF DEAN OF MATRICULATION AND ASSESSMENT TO DEAN 25 OF CIVIC CENTER CAMPUS." JUNE 24, 2010 11 1 F10, "TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL DUTIES AND SALARY FOR 2 INTERIM DEAN OF EVANS CAMPUS." 3 F11, "TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL DUTIES AND SALARY FOR 4 DEAN OF HUMAN RESOURCES." 5 F12, "TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL DUTIES AND SALARY FOR 6 LEGAL COUNSEL." 7 F13, "CHANGES OF DUTIES FOR VICE CHANCELLOR 8 FINANCE AT ADMINISTRATION." 9 F14, "TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL DUTIES AND SALARY FOR 10 DEAN OF FINANCIAL AID AND EOPS." 11 S10, "APPOINTING AND RE-APPOINTING MEMBERS TO AN 12 INDEPENDENT CITIZENS' OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE." 13 AND S25, "AUTHORIZING A DISTRICT CREDIT CARD FOR 14 THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM." 15 SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDE F1, "THE 16 ADMINISTRATIVE CONTRACT RENEWALS THROUGH JUNE 30, 2013." 17 S4, "RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF MODIFIED TERMS AND 18 CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT FOR ACADEMIC MANAGEMENT EMPLOYEES 19 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2010-2011." 20 S5, "RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF MODIFIED TERMS AND 21 CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT FOR UNREPRESENTED CLASSIFIED 22 MANAGEMENT, SUPERVISORY, AND CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEES FOR 23 FISCAL YEAR 2010-2011." 24 AND WITHDRAWN RESOLUTIONS, INCLUDES S11, 25 "AUTHORIZATION TO CONTRACT WITH ROBYN HELMLINGER REGARDING JUNE 24, 2010 12 1 PRACTICE AND PROCEDURES FOR ELECTIONS AND BALLOT 2 MEASURES." 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 4 SO IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE 5 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA AS AMENDED. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 9 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD I ASK A QUESTION? 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: S11, WHY WAS THAT 13 WITHDRAWN, DO WE KNOW? 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE 15 TO ASK ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR LESLIE SMITH. I AM NOT 16 SURE WHY IT WAS WITHDRAWN. 17 LESLIE. 18 MS. SMITH: I'M SORRY. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S11. 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHY WAS S11 WITHDRAWN? 21 MS. SMITH: S11 WAS WITHDRAWN BECAUSE -- 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MIKE. 23 MS. SMITH: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SCOTT 24 DICKEY (PHONETIC) PERFORMED THIS FUNCTION FOR THE BOARD AT 25 A LAST WEEK -- I'M NOT SURE IF I COULD GIVE YOU THE EXACT JUNE 24, 2010 13 1 DATE. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I BELIEVE IT WAS THE WEEK 3 BEFORE LAST. 4 MS. SMITH: THE WEEK BEFORE LAST. 5 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEAH. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: JUNE 15TH. 7 MS. SMITH: JUNE 15TH. AND SO IT WAS BELIEVED 8 THAT WE WERE POTENTIALLY COVERING BOTH GROUNDS. AND SINCE 9 HE HAD PREPARED THE WORK, WE THOUGHT THAT HE COULD DO THE 10 REST OF THE TRAINING SINCE IT WAS ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED. 11 AND SO IT WAS JUST TRYING TO GET IT DONE, AND WE WERE 12 DOING IT, SO WE JUST PULLED IT. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANKS. 15 IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, ALL THOSE IN 16 FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA AS AMENDED, 17 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 14 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS ANYBODY OPPOSED? 2 THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA IS ADOPTED. 3 WE NOW HAVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. 4 THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE VOTE ON AS A GROUP OF ITEMS THAT 5 ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER. THEY ARE MARKED ON THE TABLE 6 OF CONTENTS OF THE AGENDA WITH AN ASTERISK AND A "C". 7 ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD CAN PULL THEM BEFORE 8 BEING VOTED ON WITH A GROUP AND ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC 9 WHO WANTS TO DISCUSS THEM INDIVIDUALLY CAN ALSO ASK FOR US 10 TO PULL IT. 11 SO ARE THERE REQUESTS TO PULL B9, B10, B11, B12? 12 IF NOT, IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR THOSE FOUR, 13 PLEASE. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. B9, B10, B11, AND B12. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, ONE OF 17 THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN DOING AS PRESIDENT IS ASKING 18 THE STUDENT TRUSTEE TO VOTE BEFORE WE VOTE AS A GROUP SO 19 THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AND BE KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT 20 YOUR VOTE AS AN ADVISORY VOTE. 21 SO WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS ASK YOU TO VOTE ON 22 THESE AND THEN ALL THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WE WILL BE DOING. 23 I WILL ASK YOU TO VOTE ON THESE AND THEN I WILL ASK FOR 24 THE REST OF THE BOARD TO VOTE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU. JUNE 24, 2010 15 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO YOUR VOTE ON B9, B10, B11, 2 AND B12. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B9, B10, 5 B11, AND B12, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 6 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS ANYBODY OPPOSED? 14 THOSE PASS. 15 IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL C1, C2, C3, OR C4. 16 IF NOT, IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR THOSE, 17 PLEASE. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: MOVE C1-C4. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 21 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF C1, C2, 25 C3, AND C4, PLEASE SAY "AYE." JUNE 24, 2010 16 1 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 9 THOSE FOUR PASS. 10 IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PULL G1-8, H1 AND 2, OR N1. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: MOVED G-N. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? ARE YOU MOVING ALL 13 OF THEM? 14 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, THANK YOU, TRUSTEE BERG. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: WE ARE MOVING IT ALONG TONIGHT. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF G1-8, H1 20 AND 2, AND N1, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 21 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) JUNE 24, 2010 17 1 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 5 THOSE ALL PASSED. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANTED 7 TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ON H2, THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTION. I 8 GUESS THE PERSON WHO WAS HIRED -- I BELIEVE IT'S H2. THE 9 NAME WAS SUBSTITUTED ONE NAME FOR ANOTHER. 10 IT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR FELICIA TRIP, AND NOW IT'S 11 SUPPOSED TO BE DANYELLE MARSHALL. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD 13 HAVE KNOWN ANYWAY BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION IS -- IF YOU 14 TAKE A LOOK AT H1 AND H2, IT TALKS ABOUT THE DETAILED 15 INFORMATION BEING ON THE WEBSITE, BUT YOU ARE JUST SAYING 16 THAT ANYWAY. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 19 WE HAVE TWO DISCUSSION ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA 20 TONIGHT. ONE ABOUT THE SOME CONTINUED REVISIONS TO OUR 21 SUNSHINE ORDINANCE OPEN PUBLIC RECORDS ACT AND ALSO ONE 22 ABOUT POTENTIAL PARCEL TAX MEASURE ON THE BALLOT. 23 WE TEND TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON MANY OF OUR 24 ISSUES. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SAY LET'S START 25 WITH 15 MINUTES AND SEE HOW FAR WE GET, AND IF WE WANT TO JUNE 24, 2010 18 1 CONTINUE PAST THAT, WE WILL DO THAT, BUT IF WE COULD START 2 WITH THAT. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER, I THINK YOU SHOULD START US OFF. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR THE OTHER 5 PRESENTER TO GO BEFORE US. I WAS WAITING FOR -- 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: OH, SURE. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- SOMEONE FROM THE SUNSHINE 8 TASK FORCE TO ATTEND. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, THANK YOU. 10 WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE PARCEL TAX THEN. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE WILL ALSO TRY THIS FOR 15 13 MINUTES AND SEE IF THAT GETS US ENOUGH TIME. 14 LESLIE, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? 15 MS. SMITH: YES. 16 I WAS PUT ON FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PARCEL 17 TAX. YOU RECEIVED THIS WEEK THE FINAL REPORT FROM GODBE 18 RESEARCH WITH ALL OF THE DETAILED ANALYSIS FROM ALL OF THE 19 DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC COHORTS IN 20 SAN FRANCISCO. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WORTH WHILE TO HAVE 21 A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THAT AND A POTENTIAL TIMELINE 22 DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU PROCEED WITH YOUR DISCUSSION 23 REGARDING THE PARCEL TAX. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 25 I AM JUST REMINDING EVERYBODY THIS IS A JUNE 24, 2010 19 1 DISCUSSION ITEM, NOT AN ACTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2 3 MR. HEATH: THANK YOU, MR. CHANCELLOR AND 4 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. MY NAME IS 5 CHARLES HEATH. I'M A PARTNER WITH TBWB STRATEGIES FOR THE 6 POLITICAL CONSULTING FIRM AND THE TEAM OF GODBE RESEARCH 7 TO CONDUCT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY OF YOUR PARCEL TAX. 8 I AM GOING TO BE REFERRING HERE TO A HANDOUT 9 THAT I BELIEVE WAS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD AND AUDIENCE 10 AHEAD OF TIME. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: ARE THERE SOME MORE COPIES? 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY TO 13 INTERRUPT. I NEED TO MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. 14 THERE'S A CAR THAT'S PARKED IN THE CITY SHARE 15 PARKING LOT SPACE. 16 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: OH, THAT'S MY CAR. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT -- 18 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: OKAY. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: -- BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL. 20 THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 22 MR. HEATH: SURE. 23 I AM GOING TO START BY TALKING A LITTLE BIT 24 ABOUT THE TIMELINE FOR PARCEL TAX MEASURES, SO YOU CAN SEE 25 HOW THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY FITS INTO THE LARGER PICTURE OF JUNE 24, 2010 20 1 PASSING A MEASURE AND THEN DR. DAVIDSON FROM GODBE 2 RESEARCH WILL SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS FROM THE 3 POLLS ALSO REPRESENTED AT YOUR LAST MEETING AND THEN WE 4 CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OPTIONS FOR NEXT STEPS. 5 SO LOOKING HERE AT THE THREE STEPS TO A 6 SUCCESSFUL PARCEL TAX MEASURE, YOU'VE COMPLETED THE FIRST 7 STEP, WHICH IS THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. REALLY THE BACKBONE 8 OF THAT PROCESS IS THE OPINION POLL. IT GIVES US A SENSE 9 OF THE EXISTING LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR A MEASURE. YOU KNOW, 10 WHAT RANGE OF TAX RATES WE BELIEVE WILL BE SUPPORTED AT 11 THE TWO-THIRDS MEASURE AND A POTENTIAL DURATION FOR A TAX. 12 BUT IN THAT PROCESS, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE POLITICAL 13 LANDSCAPE, OTHER COMPETING ISSUES THAT MAY BE ON UPCOMING 14 BALLOTS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE ULTIMATE FEASIBILITY OF 15 A PARCEL TAX MEASURE. 16 ASSUMING THAT A DISTRICT CHOOSES TO PROCEED WITH 17 A PARCEL TAX, THEN WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE WHICH IS 18 WHAT WE CALL BALLOT MEASURE DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC 19 INFORMATION. AND THERE'S REALLY TWO GOALS FOR THIS PHASE. 20 ONE IS TO DESIGN THE BEST POSSIBLE MEASURE FOR 21 THE BALLOT. SO TAKING WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE 22 FEASIBILITY PROCESS, TO IDENTIFY A TAX RATE, TO IDENTIFY A 23 DURATION, IDENTIFY THE SET OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO BE 24 FUNDED BY THE MEASURE, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, ALSO 25 BEGIN TO RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT THE FUNDING NEEDS JUNE 24, 2010 21 1 THAT THE PARCEL TAXES DESIGN TO ADDRESS AND BEGIN TO 2 CONDUCT POLITICAL OUTREACH TO BUILD THE BROAD CONSENSUS 3 THAT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO REACH TWO-THIRDS VOTER 4 APPROVAL. 5 NOW THAT SECOND PHASE IS ALSO A PHASE THAT IS 6 FUNDED BY THE COLLEGE DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY WORK DURING 7 THAT TIME. IT'S NOT ADVOCACY IN NATURE. IT IS PROVIDING 8 GENERAL INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC IN A FACTUAL IMPARTIAL 9 WAY. 10 SHOULD YOU DESIRE TO BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT 11 THIS YEAR, YOU HAVE A LEGAL DEADLINE OF AUGUST THE 6TH AT 12 5:00 P.M. TO DELIVER A BOARD ADOPTED RESOLUTION TO THE 13 ELECTION'S DEPARTMENT. 14 AND TYPICALLY, THAT WRAPS UP THE DISTRICT'S ROLE 15 IN THIS PROCESS. ONCE THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED A RESOLUTION 16 CALLING FOR THE ELECTION AND ESTABLISHING THE SPECIFICS OF 17 THE MEASURE WITH JUNE 10TH PLACED ON THE BALLOT, THE 18 COLLEGE DISTRICT MUST STEP BACK IN AN INDEPENDENT ADVOCACY 19 CAMPAIGN, AND THEN STEPS FORWARD TO TAKE THE PROCESS 20 THROUGH TO THE FINISH LINE ON ELECTION DAY. AND SO THAT'S 21 A GENERAL SUMMARY OF THE OVERALL PROCESS FOR A PARCEL TAX. 22 NOW WE WILL GET INTO MORE DETAIL AND I WILL TURN 23 IT OVER TO DR. DAVIDSON. 24 DR. DAVIDSON: ON THE SECOND PAGE IS A BRIEF 25 OVERVIEW OF THE KEY FINDINGS OF THE SURVEY THAT HIGHLIGHT JUNE 24, 2010 22 1 A NUMBER OF POSITIVE RESULTS THAT INDICATE THE COMMUNITY 2 IS RECEPTIVE TO A PARCEL TAX MEASURE TO FUND EDUCATIONAL 3 PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. 4 IN ADDITION TO GENERALLY HAVING A FAVORABLE 5 OPINION OF CITY COLLEGE, WE ALSO FOUND THAT MANY VOTERS 6 HAVE HAD DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH CITY COLLEGE WITH MORE 7 THAN HALF INDICATING THAT THEY OR A MEMBER OF THEIR 8 HOUSEHOLD HAD ATTENDED A CLASS. 9 ADDITIONALLY, COMMUNITY PRIORITIES ARE CLOSELY 10 ALIGNED WITH THE FUNDING NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT. AND 11 VOTERS ARE HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE POTENTIAL PROGRAMS AND 12 SERVICES TO BE FUNDED BY A PARCEL TAX. 13 ADDITIONALLY, VOTERS ARE HIGHLY RECEPTIVE TO 14 INFORMATION ON THE BENEFITS AND REGULATORY FEATURES OF A 15 MEASURE. WE FOUND OVERALL A STRONG BASE OF SUPPORT. 16 WHEN WE TESTED UNINFORMED OPINIONS, ROUGHLY 17 THREE OUT OF FIVE VOTERS INDICATED SUPPORT FOR A MEASURE. 18 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS EFFECTIVE IN BUILDING SUPPORT 19 FOR A MEASURE. AND WE SAW A SIX PERCENT INCREASE IN 20 SUPPORT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE SURVEY TO THE END. 21 OVERALL, COMMUNITY OPINION IS MOST HEAVILY 22 INFLUENCED BY THE COST OF THE MEASURE. ALTHOUGH VOTERS 23 ARE STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF CITY COLLEGE PROGRAMS AND 24 SERVICES. IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT A MEASURE BE AFFORDABLE TO 25 THEIR HOUSEHOLDS GIVEN THESE CHALLENGING ECONOMIC TIMES. JUNE 24, 2010 23 1 AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT BACK TO CHARLES 2 HEATH. AND WE WILL OVERVIEW THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE 3 CONSIDER TO BE MOST FEASIBLE. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: PRESIDENT MARKS, I WANT TO ASK A 5 QUESTION. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: THREE OUT OF FIVE, THAT'S 8 60 PERCENT. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO PASS THE TAX. 9 DR. DAVIDSON: THAT WAS AN INITIAL TEST OF VOTER 10 SUPPORT. WE THEN WENT ON TO TEST A SERIES OF SPECIFIC TAX 11 RATES. AND WE FOUND PEAK SUPPORT AT 71 PERCENT SUPPORT 12 FOR A $49 PARCEL TAX. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS THE 14 DIFFERENCE? WHAT CREATED THAT DIFFERENCE? WAS IT THE 15 AMOUNT OF MONEY? 16 DR. DAVIDSON: IT WAS THE AMOUNT. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: IT WAS LESS. 18 DR. DAVIDSON: THAT 60 PERCENT SUPPORT THAT WE 19 SAW UP FRONT, THAT WAS FOR A $95 PARCEL TAX. 20 WE ALSO TESTED A PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT OPTION, 21 WHICH HAD 59 SUPPORT INITIALLY. AND THAT SCENARIO PEAKED 22 AT 67 PERCENT SUPPORT WITH ONE-AND-A-HALF CENTS PER SQUARE 23 FOOT OF TOTAL BUILDING AREA. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: WE NEED TWO-THIRDS -- 25 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, WE NEED TWO-THIRDS. JUNE 24, 2010 24 1 TRUSTEE WONG: -- WHICH IS 66 PERCENT. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: TWO-THIRDS IS 67 PERCENT. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: AND YOU SAID, WE GOT 71 PERCENT. 4 DR. DAVIDSON: 71 PERCENT FOR A $49 PARCEL TAX 5 AND 60 -- 6 TRUSTEE WONG: PLUS OR MINUS 5 PERCENT. 7 DR. DAVIDSON: PLUS OR MINUS 5 PERCENT, WHICH 8 WOULD PUT YOU -- WE ESTIMATE THAT SUPPORT AMONG ALL LIKELY 9 VOTERS FOR $49 PARCEL TAXES NO LOWER THAN 66 PERCENT. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: SO 5 -- PLUS OR MINUS 5 PERCENT 11 IS CUTTING IT VERY CLOSE. 12 DR. DAVIDSON: RIGHT AT THE CUSP OF THE 13 TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY. THAT'S CORRECT. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THAT BRING 15 US, THE $49? 16 DR. DAVIDSON: THAT'S ROUGHLY $9 MILLION. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: EVERY YEAR? 18 DR. DAVIDSON: EVERY YEAR. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT MIGHT BE WORTH IT. LET'S 20 SEE. 21 DR. DAVIDSON: ALTHOUGH WITH THE MARGIN OF 22 ERROR, SUPPORT FOR A $49 PARCEL TAX IS RIGHT AT THE CUSP 23 OF TWO-THIRDS. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S RIGHT. 25 DR. DAVIDSON: IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT JUNE 24, 2010 25 1 AT THE END OF THE SURVEY, WE SAW A 6 PERCENT INCREASE IN 2 SUPPORT FROM THE INITIAL TEST WITH A WELL-FUNDED, 3 WELL-ORGANIZED OUTREACH EFFORT TO VOTERS. WE BELIEVE THAT 4 WE ALSO WOULD SEE AN INCREASE IN SUPPORT FROM THAT 5 71 PERCENT. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: THROUGH EDUCATION. 7 DR. DAVIDSON: YES. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. 9 MR. HEATH: SO THE TIMELINE THAT I WAS JUST 10 DESCRIBING, THE BLUE BAR HERE (INDICATING). THAT BALLOT 11 MEASURE AND PUBLIC INFORMATION PHASE, THAT'S THE PERIOD OF 12 TIME WHERE WE WOULD PROPOSE TO BEGIN PERFORMING THAT 13 EDUCATION IN ORDER TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE FUNDING 14 NEEDS, RAISE AWARENESS OF HOW A PARCEL TAX MIGHT HELP 15 PROTECT THE AVAILABILITY OF COURSES AND PROGRAMS AND 16 SERVICES THAT VOTERS VALUE IN ORDER TO REPLICATE THAT 17 GROWTH AND SUPPORT THAT THE POLL INDICATES THIS IS 18 POSSIBLE. THAT'S ONE PHASE. 19 AND THE ADVOCACY CAMPAIGN SORT OF FINISHES THE 20 JOB BY THEN COMMUNICATING THE PERSUASIVE MESSAGES 21 ADVOCATING FOR THE "YES" VOTE FOR THE PARCEL TAX. AND 22 IT'S THOSE TWO PROCESSES WORKING TOGETHER THAT WE BELIEVE 23 WILL GENERATE THE SUPPORT THAT THE POLLING INDICATES. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: I'M SORRY. I HAVE NOT READ 25 THROUGH ALL OF THIS. BUT WHAT WAS YOUR UNIVERSE? JUNE 24, 2010 26 1 DR. DAVIDSON: OUR UNIVERSE WAS LIKELY NOVEMBER 2 VOTERS. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: WHICH IS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE 4 TALKING ABOUT? 5 DR. DAVIDSON: ROUGHLY 250,000. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. LIKELY VOTERS IN THE LAST 7 FIVE ELECTIONS OR IN AN OFF-YEAR ELECTION? 8 I MEAN, HOW DID YOU CHOOSE -- 9 DR. DAVIDSON: IT IS BASED ON PREVIOUS VOTING 10 HISTORY. AND IT'S SIX DIFFERENT CRITERIA, INCLUDING 11 PARTICIPATION AND SIMILAR ELECTIONS AND REGISTRATION. 12 SO WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT ROUGHLY 250,000 VOTERS 13 WILL TURNOUT FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION BASED ON THE 14 PATTERNS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. THOSE WERE THE 15 VOTERS THAT WE WERE SAMPLING FROM. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: DID YOU, BY ANY CHANCE, LOOK AT 17 THE LAST ELECTION, WHICH WAS PRETTY ABOMINABLE. I THINK 18 IT'S PROBABLY UNDER 250,000 PEOPLE. IT WAS UNDER 19 20 PERCENT. 20 MR. HEATH: FOR THE JUNE PRIMARY CERTAINLY. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 22 MR. HEATH: THERE WASN'T MUCH REASON FOR -- 23 THERE WEREN'T THE COMPETITIVE RACES ON THAT BALLOT TO DRAW 24 VOTERS OUT. 25 WE THINK IT WILL BE PROBABLY DIFFERENT THIS JUNE 24, 2010 27 1 NOVEMBER WHICH IS WHY WE'VE PEGGED THE TURNOUT HIGHER. 2 IT'S AN IMPRECISE SCIENCE TRYING TO PREDICT VOTER TURNOUT. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 4 MR. HEATH: WE TAKE OUR BEST BET BASED ON THE 5 INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US FROM PAST ELECTIONS. BUT I 6 THINK TYPICALLY OUR ESTIMATES ARE WITHIN A FEW PERCENTAGE 7 POINTS OF WHAT TURNOUT HOPEFULLY TURNS OUT TO BE. 8 SO I'M NOW TURNING TO THE THIRD PAGE HERE, THE 9 ONE TITLED, "THREE ELECTION DATA OPTIONS." 10 SO WITH PARCEL TAX MEASURES, YOU HAVE A FAIR 11 AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU CALL FOR THE 12 ELECTION. BUT, OF COURSE, THERE ARE PROS AND CONS 13 ASSOCIATED WITH EACH ELECTION DATE. 14 THE SOONEST THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU 15 CONSIDER GOING THROUGH THE BALLOT WOULD BE THIS COMING 16 NOVEMBER'S ELECTION. AND, OF COURSE, TO QUALIFY FOR THAT 17 ELECTION, YOU HAVE THIS IMPENDING AUGUST 6TH DEADLINE FOR 18 THE DISTRICT TO HAVE DONE ALL OF ITS WORK TO PREPARE THE 19 MEASURE FOR THE BALLOT AND TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE 20 COMMUNITY -- THE NEED FOR THE MEASURE. 21 GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TESTED IN THE SURVEY 22 BOTH THE FLAT TAX SCENARIO, WHICH IS THE TRADITIONAL 23 APPROACH TO PARCEL TAXES TO FLATTEN OUT PER PARCEL OF LAND 24 WITHIN THE DISTRICT. THE POLLSTER'S RECOMMENDATION IS 25 THAT YOU KEEP THAT AT NO MORE THAN $49 AND THAT YOU SET JUNE 24, 2010 28 1 THE DURATION AT SOMEWHERE AROUND FOUR YEARS. 2 WE BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WANT TO MOVE QUICKLY TO 3 THIS NOVEMBER'S BALLOT, THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE APPROACH. 4 FOR YOU TO CHOOSE A SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED TAX, THERE ARE 5 SPECIFIC POLITICAL PERPLEXITIES RELATED TO THAT. AND IN 6 PARTICULAR, THE POTENTIAL FROM OPPOSITION FROM LARGE 7 PROPERTY OWNERS. I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARILY AN 8 OBSTACLE THAT WE CAN'T OVERCOME IN THE LONG TERM. BUT IN 9 THE NEAR TERM, GIVEN THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME BETWEEN 10 NOW AND WHEN YOU WOULD NEED TO QUALIFY FOR THE NOVEMBER 11 BALLOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A VIABLE OPTION. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: IN YOUR QUERIES, DID THE FACT 13 THAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING A SENSITIVE FOUR YEARS, DID THAT 14 HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE RESPONSE OF THOSE THAT YOU 15 QUESTIONED? AND DID YOU TALK ABOUT FOUR YEARS, FIVE 16 YEARS, SIX YEARS, OR THREE YEARS? 17 DR. DAVIDSON: YES. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: ARE THE FIGURES THERE IN TERMS OF 19 SUPPORT? 20 DR. DAVIDSON: IN ADDITION TO TAX RATE, DURATION 21 WAS THE OTHER FACTOR THAT HAD THE STRONGEST INFLUENCE ON 22 SUPPORT. FOR A MEASURE LASTING 18 YEARS, JUST 48 PERCENT 23 SUPPORT. FOR ONE LASTING 11 YEARS, SUPPORT CLIMBS JUST 24 SLIGHTLY TO 52 PERCENT. AND WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE 25 FOR A MEASURE LASTING FOUR YEARS FOR ONLY 71 PERCENT JUNE 24, 2010 29 1 SUPPORT. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, OKAY. SO THIS IS THE 3 OPTIMUM -- 4 MR. HEATH: WE UNDERSTAND THAT LONG-TERM STABLE 5 FUNDING IS CERTAINLY THE GOAL FOR THE DISTRICT. OUR 6 EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH OTHER DISTRICTS ON PARCEL TAXES IS 7 THAT YOUR INITIAL ELECTION TO ESTABLISH THE TAX IN THE 8 FIRST PLACE IS THE MOST DIFFICULT ELECTION YOU WILL EVER 9 HAVE. 10 AND TYPICALLY, THE RENEWALS OF THE MEASURES 11 BECOME EASIER ONCE VOTERS HAVE SOME EVIDENCE THAT THE 12 MONEY IS BEING SPENT PROPERLY AND PRODUCING RESULTS. 13 SO WE SUGGEST THAT YOU BE MORE CONSERVATIVE IN 14 SETTING THE RATE FOR THE FIRST ELECTION AND THEN YOU CAN 15 PUSH THAT DURATION OUT TO LONGER PERIODS OF TIME IN 16 SUBSEQUENT RENEWAL ELECTIONS. AND THAT'S A STRATEGY THAT 17 HAS WORKED FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. 18 SO IF YOU WERE TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY ON THIS 19 NOVEMBER 2010 TIMELINE, AGAIN, WE RECOMMEND THE FLAT TAX 20 RATE, A SHORT DURATION BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY ISN'T TIME TO 21 BUILD THE SUPPORT THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR A MORE 22 COMPLEX AND SOPHISTICATED SOLUTION. THAT'S THE NEXT 23 IMMEDIATE STEPS. IT WOULD BE QUICKLY RAISING PUBLIC 24 AWARENESS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THE MONTH OF 25 JULY LEFT IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND CONDUCT THE STRATEGIC JUNE 24, 2010 30 1 OUTREACH TO BUILD CONSENSUS WITHIN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, 2 VARIOUS INTEREST GROUPS WITHIN THE CITY, THAT YOU WOULD 3 WANT ON BOARD HEADING INTO AN ELECTION. 4 ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE A MAIL BALLOT ELECTION 5 IN 2011. A NUMBER OF K-12 SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE HAD QUITE 6 A BIT OF SUCCESS IN PASSING PARCEL TAXES THROUGH THE MAIL 7 BALLOT PROCESS. IN THIS TYPE OF AN ELECTION, THERE ARE NO 8 POLLING PLACES. EVERY SINGLE REGISTERED VOTER IS MAILED A 9 BALLOT 30 DAYS BEFORE ELECTION DAY, AND THEY CAN RETURN 10 THAT BALLOT BY MAIL. TYPICALLY, THERE ARE DROP OFF 11 LOCATIONS ON THE LAST DAY OF VOTING FOR THOSE THAT FAIL TO 12 MAIL THE BALLOT ON TIME. 13 NOW THE MAIL BALLOT ELECTION DATES AVAILABLE TO 14 YOU IN 2011 ARE IN MAY AND AUGUST SO THAT WOULD AFFORD YOU 15 THE TIME, I BELIEVE, TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE TAX RATES AND 16 STRUCTURES AND DURATIONS BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TIME 17 TO WORK THROUGH THE POLITICAL PROCESS TO POTENTIALLY BUILD 18 SUPPORT FOR THOSE OPTIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE 19 SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER. 20 THERE ARE SOME DOWN SIDES ASSOCIATED WITH THE 21 MAIL BALLOT ELECTIONS THAT ARE WORTH CONSIDERING. ONE IS 22 THE COST OF THE ELECTION. IF YOU ARE ON THE BALLOT THIS 23 NOVEMBER, THEN YOU ARE SHARING THE COST OF THE ELECTION 24 WITH EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S ON THE BALLOT AT THE SAME TIME. 25 AND I'VE RECEIVED AN ESTIMATE THAT IT WOULD COST JUNE 24, 2010 31 1 THE COLLEGE DISTRICT ABOUT $800,000 TO PLACE THE MEASURE 2 ON THIS NOVEMBER'S BALLOT BECAUSE THE DISTRICT IS 3 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ELECTION. 4 A MAIL BALLOT ELECTION IS ESTIMATED TO COST 5 ABOUT $2.1 MILLION. SO FOR A MEASURE THAT GENERATES 6 $9 MILLION, $2.1 MILLION IN ELECTION COST IS TOUGH TO 7 SWALLOW AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ISSUE FOR 8 OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE. 9 YOU SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF LOW VOTER 10 TURNOUT IN A SPECIAL ELECTION. SO SINGLE ISSUE SPECIAL 11 ELECTION, WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE DRAMATICALLY LOWER VOTER 12 TURNOUT. TYPICALLY, AS VOTER TURNOUT DECLINES, THE 13 INFLUENCE OF VOTERS THAT ARE LESS RECEPTIVE TO TAXES 14 BECOMES MAGNIFIED AND THE WAY THAT MANY K-12 SCHOOL 15 DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT IN PAST PARCEL 16 TAXES ON MAIL BALLOTS IS THAT THEY ARE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT 17 IDENTIFYING SUPPORTERS AND THEN TURNING IN RATHER LARGE 18 NUMBERS IN ORDER TO OVERWHELM THAT SMALL TURNOUT WAS 19 PARENTS AND OTHER SUPPORTERS OF THE MEASURE AND WIN 20 THROUGH INFLUENCING WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE BALLOT. 21 YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE DISTRICT WITH 15 TO 22 20,000 REGISTERED VOTERS. AND A DISTRICT WITH OVER 23 400,000 REGISTERED VOTERS, GENERATING THOSE MARGINS BASED 24 ON INCREASED TURNOUT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE. 25 SO I THINK FOR STRATEGIC REASONS, I WOULD JUNE 24, 2010 32 1 PROBABLY RANK THE MAIL BALLOT OPTION AS THE LEAST 2 PREFERABLE OPTION HERE. 3 ANOTHER OPTION TO CONSIDER IS THE NOVEMBER 2011 4 THE OLD ELECTION THAT WILL OCCUR HERE IN THE CITY, YOU 5 COULD PLACE A PARCEL TAX MEASURE ON THE BALLOT THEN. THE 6 ELECTION COST WOULD BE LOWER BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU ARE 7 SHARING THE COST WITH THE OTHER ISSUES AND CANDIDATES THAT 8 WILL BE ON THE BALLOT AT THAT TIME. THAT WOULD AFFORD YOU 9 THE TIME TO AGAIN CONSIDER ALTERNATE TAX STRUCTURE RATES 10 AND DURATIONS. IT WOULD GIVE YOU MORE TIME FOR THE 11 OUTREACH AND CENSUS BUILDING THAT'S REQUIRED. 12 THE ONE DOWNSIDE ASSOCIATED WITH THE 13 NOVEMBER 2011 ELECTION IS THAT IT WILL DELAY THE TIMING OF 14 RECEIVING PARCEL TAX REVENUE. 15 SO IF YOU WERE PASSING A MEASURE THIS NOVEMBER, 16 THEN YOU WOULD GET ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILLS FOR THE 17 2011-2012. AND YOU WOULD START RECEIVING REVENUE IN 18 JANUARY 2012. 19 NOW ONCE YOU RECEIVE YOUR VOTER AUTHORIZATION, 20 YOU CAN BORROW AGAINST THE FUTURE RECEIPT OF THOSE TAX 21 REVENUES THROUGH TAX ANTICIPATION NOTES. 22 IF YOU DON'T APPROVE YOUR MEASURE UNTIL 23 NOVEMBER 2011, YOU DON'T STAND TO SEE PARCEL TAX REVENUE 24 UNTIL JANUARY 2013. AND YOU COULDN'T BEGIN BORROWING 25 AGAINST THAT REVENUE UNTIL NOVEMBER 2011. SO IF YOUR JUNE 24, 2010 33 1 FUNDING NEEDS ARE IMMEDIATE, THAT MAY BE A LESS ATTRACTIVE 2 OPTION. SO THOSE ARE THE ELECTION DATE OPTIONS WITH SOME 3 OF THE PROS AND CONS AS WE SEE THEM. 4 AND JUST ON THE LAST PAGE, I WON'T GO THROUGH 5 THIS POINT BY POINT, BUT I'VE SUMMARIZED HERE WHAT I SEE 6 IS THE IMMEDIATE NEXT STEPS THAT NEED TO OCCUR -- 7 TRUSTEE WONG: EXCUSE ME. 8 MR. HEATH: -- SHOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD 9 IN THE MEASURE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, YOU TALK 11 ABOUT THE TIMING HERE. THE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A 12 PARCEL TAX THIS NOVEMBER. 13 MR. HEATH: CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE 14 CURRENTLY CONSIDERING. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: NOW, OH, OKAY. SO THEY HAVEN'T 16 DECIDED YET. 17 MR. HEATH: WELL, THEY HAVE THE SAME AUGUST 6TH 18 DEADLINE -- 19 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. 20 MR. HEATH: -- AS YOU TO PLACE THE MEASURE ON 21 THE BALLOT. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: ALL RIGHT. SO DID YOU TAKE INTO 23 ACCOUNT HOW IF THE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT WENT OUT FOR A 24 PARCEL TAX HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 25 DISTRICT IF WE ALSO WENT OUT FOR A PARCEL TAX -- JUNE 24, 2010 34 1 MR. HEATH: DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? 2 TRUSTEE WONG: -- AT THE SAME TIME OR THE SAME 3 ELECTION. 4 DR. DAVIDSON: TO PROVIDE A BALANCED ASSESSMENT 5 OF VOTER SUPPORT FOR A MEASURE, THE SURVEY TESTED IN 6 ADDITION TO POTENTIAL PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO BE FUNDED A 7 SERIES OF ARGUMENTS AND SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE AND A 8 SERIES OF POTENTIAL OPPOSITION MESSAGES. THAT WAS ONE OF 9 THE POTENTIAL OPPOSITION MESSAGES THAT WAS TESTED IN THE 10 SURVEY. 11 WE FOUND THAT THAT MESSAGE DID RESONATE WITH 12 VOTERS AND WAS A CONCERN TO VOTERS. BUT EVEN AFTER VOTERS 13 HAD HEARD THAT MESSAGE, THERE WAS STILL THAT 6 PERCENT 14 INCREASE IN SUPPORT. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND THIS 16 CORRECTLY. EVEN WHEN VOTERS WERE ENLIGHTENED ABOUT THE 17 FACT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT 18 PARCEL TAX THAT THERE STILL WAS SUPPORT -- 19 DR. DAVIDSON: YES. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: -- FOR A COMMUNITY COLLEGE PARCEL 21 TAX. 22 DR. DAVIDSON: AND THERE WAS EVEN AN INCREASE IN 23 SUPPORT BECAUSE THOSE BENEFITS OF THE MEASURE REGULATORY 24 FEATURES AND THOSE STRONG PROGRAMS AND SERVICES -- 25 TRUSTEE WONG: AND THE FACT THAT -- JUNE 24, 2010 35 1 DR. DAVIDSON: -- THAT RESONATED SO WELL. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THE UNIFIED DISTRICT IS THE 3 FEEDER INTO OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. 4 DR. DAVIDSON: ABSOLUTELY. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 6 MR. HEATH: WE FREQUENTLY HAVE INSTANCES WHERE 7 OVERLAPPING DISTRICTS, WHETHER IT'S COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND 8 K-12 DISTRICTS OR CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE CONCURRENT TAX 9 MEASURES ON THE BALLOT. WE FIND THAT VOTERS TYPICALLY 10 EVALUATE EACH MEASURE INDEPENDENTLY, AND THEY DON'T 11 INFLUENCE EACH OTHER AS MUCH AS YOU MIGHT THINK. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: OH. 13 MR. HEATH: IN FACT WHEN YOU HAVE CONCURRENT 14 EDUCATION RELATED MEASURES, IT CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR 15 COLLABORATION IN THE CAMPAIGN. YOU CAN STRETCH CAMPAIGN 16 RESOURCES FURTHER THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGES ARE 17 LIKELY TO BE QUITE SIMILAR. AND THERE COULD BE SOME 18 SYNERGIES THERE YOU COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT MARKS, I HAVE A 20 QUESTION. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 22 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE ABOUT 20 23 MINUTES INTO THIS. SO IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TALKING 24 MAYBE FOR ANOTHER TEN MINUTES AND THEN -- 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: I HAVE A VERY BRIEF QUESTION. JUNE 24, 2010 36 1 IT HAS TO DO WITH THE HISTORY OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING 2 IN TERMS OF PARCEL TAXES. AND I WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT 3 ABOUT YOUR SUCCESSES AND YOUR FAILURES AS IT RELATES TO 4 COMMUNITY COLLEGES THAT YOU HAVE WORKED WITH. 5 AND IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME A COMPARISON OF A 6 COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT YOU'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH AND HOW WE 7 MAY BE SIMILAR OR DIFFERENT AND HOW YOU WOULD BE 8 SUCCESSFUL IN THE CAMPAIGN THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT? 9 DR. DAVIDSON: ABSOLUTELY. 10 MR. HEATH: DO YOU WANT TO START WITH SAN MATEO 11 AND GO FROM THERE? 12 DR. DAVIDSON: YES. THE HISTORY OF COMMUNITY 13 COLLEGE PARCEL TAXES IS RELATIVELY SHORT. IT BEGINS 14 JUNE 8TH. SAN MATEO COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT 15 HAVE A $34 MEASURE ON THE BALLOT WHICH WAS SUCCESSFUL AT 16 JUST OVER 64 PERCENT. 17 OUR FIRM POLLED FOR THAT MEASURE BACK IN 18 JANUARY. AND WE FOUND THAT SUPPORT FOR A $39 PARCEL TAX 19 WAS AT 71 PERCENT SIMILAR TO THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT WE 20 ARE SEEING FOR YOU AT $49. 21 BECAUSE SAN MATEO COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE 22 DISTRICT WAS THE FIRST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PARCEL 23 TAX, WE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY GO SLIGHTLY MORE 24 CONSERVATIVELY WITH THE TAX RATE, DROPPING IT DOWN TO $34 25 FOR A VARIETY OF OTHER REASONS, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, SOME JUNE 24, 2010 37 1 NEGATIVE PRESS THAT CAME OUT, A VERY STRONG ARGUMENT. 2 THEY WERE STILL EFFECTIVE IN HOLDING SUPPORT FOR THEIR 3 MEASURE AT 67 PERCENT AND WAS STILL WITHIN THE MARGIN OF 4 ERROR FOR THE STUDY. 5 MR. HEATH: IN TERMS OF OTHER EXPERIENCE ON BOTH 6 PARCEL TAXES AND WITH COMMUNITY COLLEGES, MY FIRM HAS 7 WORKED ON 60 SUCCESSFUL PARCEL TAX MEASURES ALL AT THE 8 TWO-THIRDS LEVEL. I, PERSONALLY, WORKED ON 30 OF THOSE. 9 WE HAVE PASSED ALL THE MEASURES THAT WE'VE HAD ON THE 10 BALLOT THIS YEAR. 11 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MODEL FOR K-12 PARCEL TAXES 12 THAT I THINK IS BEING ADAPTED RIGHT NOW TO COMMUNITY 13 COLLEGES. MANY OF THEM WERE WORKING WITH FOOTHILL-DE ANZA 14 COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE PLANNING 15 TO PLACE A PARCEL TAX MEASURE ON THIS NOVEMBER'S BALLOT. 16 AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO LEARN FROM THE STRATEGIES THAT 17 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED FOR K-12 DISTRICTS AND APPLY THEM TO 18 COMMUNITY COLLEGES. WE HAVE A SUCCESS RATE OF OVER 19 90 PERCENT ON PARCEL TAX MEASURES. 20 ALSO WE'VE WORKED WITH 14 COMMUNITY COLLEGES ON 21 BOND MEASURES, SO THERE'S SOME LESSONS LEARNED THERE FROM 22 HOW DO YOU MOBILIZE AN INSTITUTION THE SIZE OF THE 23 COMMUNITY COLLEGES DISTRICT, WHICH IS A KEY DIFFERENCE 24 FROM THE K-12 DISTRICT, TO THEN INFLUENCE AND RUN AN 25 EFFECTIVE CAMPAIGN. JUNE 24, 2010 38 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 2 MR. HEATH: SURE. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: DOES ANYBODY WANT TO -- 4 LESLIE, DID YOU WANT TO -- 5 MS. SMITH: IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I 6 JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT HAS BEEN 7 PREPARED BY OUR BOND COUNSEL THAT GIVES THE LEGAL 8 DEADLINES. IT'S JUST A ONE PAGER. IT'S ON YOUR DESK AND 9 IT SHOWS YOU THAT YOU CAN IN FACT GO TO THE AFTERNOON OF 10 AUGUST 6TH TO PUT TOGETHER THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. BUT THIS 11 IS THE ABSOLUTE DROP DEAD TIMELINES. 12 YES. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU KNOW, LESLIE, WHILE YOU ARE 14 UP THERE, REMIND US -- WE'VE HAD THREE BOND MEASURES IN 15 THE PAST 15 YEARS, 14 YEARS. AND THERE WAS ONE BOND 16 MEASURE WHERE I THINK WE HAD ONE MONTH OR TWO MONTHS TO 17 MAKE A DECISION. 18 MS. SMITH: YES. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: WAS THAT THE LAST -- 20 MS. SMITH: THAT WAS THE LAST MEASURE -- 21 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 22 MS. SMITH: -- IN 2005. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: IN 2005 WE ONLY HAD ONE MONTH. 24 MS. SMITH: I ALMOST WANT TO SAY ONE WEEK. I 25 REMEMBER IT JUST GOING VERY QUICKLY, MAYBE ONE MONTH. JUNE 24, 2010 39 1 YES, IT WAS VERY QUICK WHEN WE DID THAT. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL BOND 3 MEASURE. 4 MS. SMITH: AND IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL AS 5 EVIDENCED BY OUR BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. THIS IS FOR THE NEW BOARD 7 MEMBERS. WE HAVE TO MOVE. WE NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: GIVEN WHAT WE'VE HEARD 9 TONIGHT, ARE THERE PARTICULAR POINTS OF VIEW THAT PEOPLE 10 HAVE AND WANT TO SHARE ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND HOW YOU THINK 11 WE SHOULD PROCEED. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 13 RECOMMENDATION OF ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY. 14 I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT I KNOW. 15 MS. SMITH: I THINK THAT'S YOU. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: WAIT A MINUTE. 17 MS. SMITH: RECOMMENDATIONS OF ADMINISTRATION, I 18 THINK IT WOULD BE THE CHANCELLOR. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE 20 FORWARD. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU HAVE BEEN ON GROUND ZERO IN 22 TERMS OF THIS ISSUE. 23 MS. SMITH: WELL, I CAN SPEAK OR THE CHANCELLOR. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SURE. THERE ARE SEVERAL 25 ISSUES THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT. ONE IS THAT WE DO JUNE 24, 2010 40 1 ABSOLUTELY NEED TO TALK TO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SEE 2 WHERE WE ARE RELATIVE TO THEM SINCE THEY ARE GOING FORWARD 3 WITH THE PARCEL TAX. 4 THE SECOND ISSUE I THINK IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE 5 DATA, WE ARE ON THE CUSP AS FAR AS THE DATA IS CONCERNED. 6 THERE'S A HIGH PROBABILITY I THINK THAT WE COULD BE 7 SUCCESSFUL, BUT THAT DEPENDS ON WHETHER WE ARE GOING WITH 8 THE CORRECT RATE. THE $49 PER SEEMS A LITTLE BIT HIGH IF 9 YOU WANT A HIGHER LEVEL OF SECURITY ABOUT ACHIEVING IT, SO 10 YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT SMALLER DOLLAR AMOUNT 11 MORE THAN $49, MAYBE $45, $44 SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE TO 12 TRY TO ACHIEVE A LITTLE BETTER PERCENTAGE IN TERMS OF THE 13 PROBABILITY OF PASSING. 14 THE ISSUE THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO RECOMMEND 15 STRONGLY IS IF IT'S INDEED GOING TO COST $800,000 TO DO 16 THIS IN THIS COMING NOVEMBER, THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE 17 FEASIBILITY OF GETTING THE $800,000, RAISING THAT AMOUNT 18 OF MONEY IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE ARE 19 TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $9 MILLION FOR THE 20 PARCEL TAX TO PASS. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT STRESSFUL. 21 NOW I'M NOT SURE IN TERMS OF 2005, HOW MUCH IT 22 WAS AND HOW LONG IT TOOK US TO RAISE IT. BUT IF IT IS 23 $800,000, THAT'S KIND OF A VERY SIGNIFICANT -- 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE TO -- I REALLY 25 HAVE TO QUESTION THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE WE HAVE BOARD OF JUNE 24, 2010 41 1 TRUSTEES ELECTIONS ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER THAT WE WILL 2 ALSO BE PAYING THE CITY FOR, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE 3 BRINGING IN SOMETHING BRAND NEW HERE. WE ARE BASICALLY 4 ADDING ONE MORE LINE TO -- 5 DR. DAVIDSON: CORRECT. 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- OUR CURRENT LINE. 7 DR. DAVIDSON: THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. 8 MR. HEATH: AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE AMOUNT 9 THAT I AM QUOTING IS THE AMOUNT THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD 10 PAY TO THE ELECTION'S DEPARTMENT TO ADMINISTER THE 11 ELECTIONS. SO NOT MONEY FOR THE CAMPAIGN, IT WOULD HAVE 12 TO BE PRIVATELY RAISED FOR THE ACTUAL COST OF 13 ADMINISTERING THE ELECTION. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING 15 ABOUT. 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S WHAT WE ARE 17 TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO BE $800,000 18 BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN ELECTION ON THE BALLOT. 19 DR. DAVIDSON: RIGHT. IT SHOULD BE RELATED. 20 YOU ARE CORRECT. IT'S SAME AS THE -- 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, BUT WE DO HAVE TO 22 ASCERTAIN WHAT THE TRUE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE. I BELIEVE 23 THAT FOR A REGULAR ELECTION -- 24 PETER, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE PAY FOR A REGULAR 25 ELECTION? JUNE 24, 2010 42 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BETWEEN $300,000 AND $400,000 2 FOR EACH TRUSTEE'S ELECTION. AND THE DEPARTMENT OF 3 ELECTIONS USES THE METHODOLOGY WHERE THEY TREAT THE BALLOT 4 LIKE A PIECE OF REAL ESTATE AND APPORTION THE COST BASED 5 ON HOW MUCH EACH JURISDICTION IS TAKING UP SPACE ON THE 6 BALLOT. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO I AM SAYING IT IS A 8 MAJOR CONSIDERATION GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME. IF WE WERE 9 TO CONSIDER GOING ON THE NOVEMBER 2010 BALLOT, THEN WE ARE 10 PROBABLY LOOKING AT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF -- IF IT'S 11 TRULY $800,000, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER SEVERAL 12 HUNDRED THOUSAND TO, I BELIEVE, THE EFFORT AT THE 13 DISTRICT. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COMMITMENT OF AROUND 14 A MILLION DOLLARS I BELIEVE. IT HAS TO BE -- 15 MS. SMITH: I DON'T THINK SO. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YOU DON'T THINK SO. HOW 17 MUCH DO YOU THINK IT IS? 18 MS. SMITH: I THINK IT IS THE SAME AS -- 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF IT'S $300,000 FOR THE 20 BOARD OF TRUSTEE'S ELECTIONS, ADDING THIS IS NOT GOING TO 21 DOUBLE IT. 22 MS. SMITH: I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT THE SAME REAL 23 ESTATE AS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES PIECE. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. THAT'S FINE. 25 SO IF IT'S $300,000, THEN THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT JUNE 24, 2010 43 1 WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH IN TERMS OF -- 2 TRUSTEE WONG: HOW MUCH DID WE RAISE FOR THE 3 2005 CAMPAIGN? 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- MONEY THAT WE WOULD HAVE 5 TO RAISE. 6 MS. SMITH: I BELIEVE WE RAISED $600,000, CLOSE 7 TO $600,000. 8 IS THAT RIGHT, PETER? 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. 10 MS. SMITH: YES. THE PAYING FROM THE ELECTION 11 COMES OUT OF THE -- 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE GENERAL FUND. 13 MS. SMITH: -- GENERAL FUND, POTENTIALLY THE 14 PARCEL TAX PROCEEDS JUST LIKE ALL THE ELECTIONS. THE 15 RAISING OF THE CAMPAIGN IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT IN TERMS 16 OF -- 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. SO THERE IS A DOLLAR 18 AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO PUT INTO CONSIDERATION TO LOOK AT 19 VERY CLOSELY. THERE'S THE PARTNERSHIPS AND ALLIANCES THAT 20 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF UNIFIED, PROBABLY CITY AND 21 COUNTY, THAT WE LOOK AT VERY CAREFULLY. 22 IF WE ARE LOOKING AT GOING A YEAR FROM THEN, YOU 23 KNOW, THE 2011 ELECTION, THERE WOULD BE A LOT MORE TIME IN 24 TERMS OF PREPARATION AND SO FORTH. BUT THEN IT MIGHT BE 25 POSSIBLE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO ANOTHER POLL IN JUNE 24, 2010 44 1 TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SEE WHAT THAT'S LIKE, WHAT THE 2 CLIMATE OF ENVIRONMENT IS LIKE. 3 BUT IN ANY CASE, I BELIEVE THAT IN THE NEXT 4 SEVERAL WEEKS, PROBABLY NO LATER THAN TWO OR THREE WEEKS, 5 THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO MAKE IN WRITING A 6 RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO OUR ARGUMENTS 7 AND REASONS FOR WHY WE RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD UNDER A 8 PARTICULAR TYPE OF BALLOT. AND WE NEED TO DO THAT PRETTY 9 SOON. WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME TO MAKE THAT DECISION, IF 10 IN FACT, WE ARE PLANNING TO GO IN 2010. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, 12 LESLIE? 13 MS. SMITH: YES. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT 15 DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAVING TO PUT THE CITY AND I 16 THINK THE PARKS REC AND PARK OF THE CITY TWO SEPARATE 17 NEEDS FOR REVENUE, PLUS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, PLUS CITY 18 COLLEGE INTO ONE PACKAGE, BUT NOT UNTIL NEXT YEAR? 19 MS. SMITH: YES. I'VE HEARD -- FIRST, LET ME 20 JUST BACK UP. CURRENTLY, WE CANNOT GO WITH UNIFIED 21 TOGETHER. ONE TIME WE WENT OUT WITH UNIFIED TOGETHER ON A 22 BOND. WE CANNOT GO TOGETHER ON A PARCEL TAX. WE ARE 23 SEPARATE LINE ITEMS. WE ARE SEPARATE SECTIONS OF THE 24 GOVERNMENT CODE. AND THUS, WE CANNOT HAVE JUST ONE 25 UNIFIED MEASURE. JUNE 24, 2010 45 1 SO THE APPROACH HAS BEEN OR WHAT SOME PEOPLE ARE 2 TALKING ABOUT IS GOING IN THE OFF-YEAR ELECTION AND HAVING 3 UNIFIED -- CITY COLLEGE AND PARK AND REC ALL GO OUT ON ONE 4 ITEM THAT WOULD BE RUN THROUGH THE CITY. AND WE HAD ASKED 5 BOND COUNSEL ABOUT THAT QUESTION AND SHE DOES NOT HAVE AN 6 ANSWER IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL FEASIBILITY OF DOING THAT. 7 I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSIONS ARE -- BUT I'VE 8 HEARD -- I'VE JUST HEARD. THIS IS HEARSAY. IS THAT THE 9 POLLING FOR OTHER GROUPS BESIDES OURS ARE NOT REACHING THE 10 TWO-THIRDS THRESHOLD. 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I'VE HAD SOME 12 DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE IN THOSE ENTITIES. AND I THINK, 13 ESPECIALLY WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENT WANTING TO BE PART OF 14 THAT DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE A GREAT PUBLIC APPROVAL AT 15 THIS TIME. AND PROBABLY, I AGREE WITH YOU, LOWER THAN 16 OURS MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST THING TO GO IN WITH THAT CITY 17 DEPARTMENT. 18 MS. SMITH: THE OTHER ISSUE, OF COURSE, IS THE 19 PRICE SENSITIVITY. UNIFIED -- AGAIN, THIS IS TALKING -- 20 IS LOOKING AT $600 PARCEL, WHICH AS YOU SAW FROM OUR POLL, 21 IS A VERY DIFFICULT THRESHOLD AT THE CURRENT RATE. THE 22 PARCEL TAX THAT WE ARE CONSTRUCTING APPEARS TO BE VIABLE. 23 YOU KNOW, AFTER EDUCATION, YOU MOVE INTO THE MID 70'S PLUS 24 OR MINUS FIVE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IT'S 7:30 NOW. JUNE 24, 2010 46 1 MS. SMITH: OKAY. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD 3 GET SOME -- 4 MS. SMITH: COULD I JUST SUMMARIZE -- 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WANT TO SEE -- YOU CAN 6 SUMMARIZE IF YOU WANT, BUT I WANT TO SEE IF WE COULD GIVE 7 YOU SOME GUIDANCE -- 8 MS. SMITH: PLEASE. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- ABOUT WHAT TO DO MOVING 10 FORWARD, BUT GO AHEAD. YOU CAN SUMMARIZE AND THEN WE WILL 11 DO IT. 12 MS. SMITH: I CAN START AND THEN YOU ADD TO IT. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 14 MS. SMITH: I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, AS THE 15 CHANCELLOR HAS SAID, LAY OUT THE CASE OF WHAT THE IDEAL 16 PARCEL TAX WOULD LOOK LIKE, LAY OUT THE PROS, LAY OUT THE 17 CONS, AND GO FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT SCENARIOS 18 AND THEN BRING THAT TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NEXT MONTH. 20 MS. SMITH: I AM TALKING ABOUT NEXT MONTH. I 21 THINK IN THE ITERUM PERIOD I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE WORK 22 THAT CHARLES HEATH HAS OUTLINED IN TERMS OF WE NEED TO -- 23 I MEAN I'VE SEEN THERE'S OFFICIALLY FOUR REVENUES BEING 24 CONSIDERED BY THE CITY. HOWEVER, THEY ALL HAVE TO REACH 25 THAT TWO-THIRDS VOTE THRESHOLD. I BELIEVE ALL OF THEM DO. JUNE 24, 2010 47 1 THERE MIGHT BE A FEE IN THERE, BUT I THINK ALL OF THEM 2 HAVE REACHED THE TWO-THIRDS THRESHOLD. AND OF COURSE, THE 3 CITY DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS EITHER. 4 BUT AGAIN, INFORMALLY I AM HEARING THAT NO ONE 5 IS POLLING SUCCESSFULLY AS WE ARE. AND SO -- 6 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU MEAN THE OTHERS -- UNIFIED 7 HAS NOT POLLED AS HIGH AS OUR 71 PERCENT. 8 MS. SMITH: THIS IS BEING TELEVISED. I AM 9 TELLING YOU THIS OFF THE RECORD. I'M HEARING MID 50'S. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: I'M SORRY. 11 MS. SMITH: IT'S VERY OFF THE RECORD. YOU KNOW 12 I KIND OF, YOU KNOW -- 13 TRUSTEE WONG: THIS IS JUST HEARSAY THEN. 14 MS. SMITH: IT'S JUST HEARSAY. AND I DON'T WANT 15 TO -- BUT IT'S MUCH HIGHER. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: ARE PEOPLE COMFORTABLE HAVING 17 THE ADMINISTRATION CONTINUE TO EXAMINE THIS AND THEN TO 18 COME BACK TO US NO LATER THAN NEXT MONTH. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: JULY. 20 MS. SMITH: NO LATER THAN THAT. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 22 MS. SMITH: I WAS REPEATING WHAT YOU SAID. YES, 23 I AGREE WITH YOU NO LATER THAN NEXT MONTH. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO DO 25 IT EARLIER THAN BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US -- JUNE 24, 2010 48 1 MS. SMITH: JUST A FEW DAYS TO -- 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- 10 DAY TO -- 3 MS. SMITH: RIGHT. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE PROBABLY SHOULD DO IT 5 WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AT THE LATEST. 6 AND IT ALSO WOULD ENTAIL DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS 7 WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED AND 8 ALL -- IN KIND OF GOING THROUGH THOSE SCENARIOS WITH THEM 9 AS WELL. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IF I MAY. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I BELIEVE, ON BEHALF OF 14 STUDENTS, I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO 15 FORWARD TO RESEARCH THIS OPTION. GO FORWARD TO SEE THE 16 POSSIBILITIES FEASIBILITY-WISE BECAUSE THIS YEAR WE 17 ALREADY LOST SUMMER SESSION DUE TO THE BUDGET CUTS AND THE 18 DETRIMENT TO STUDENTS IS VERY REAL NOT HAVING ENOUGH CLASS 19 SECTIONS. 20 AND WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF 21 ACTUALLY ACHIEVING THIS PARCEL TAX ISSUE IF WE GO FORWARD 22 WITH IT, THE IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS STUDENTS ARE 23 TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE COURSE LEVELS IN COLLEGES IN 24 NONCREDIT AND CREDIT ALIKE. AND WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE 25 ENOUGH FUNDING TO HAVE SECTIONS. SO THAT'S MY -- AND JUNE 24, 2010 49 1 BECAUSE THAT'S THE RESULT OF ME TALKING TO MANY STUDENTS 2 ABOUT IT. 3 AND ALSO I HAD A QUICK QUESTION, MAYBE FOR GODBE 4 RESEARCH. THE STUDY THAT WAS SHOWN IN TERMS OF THE 5 71 PERCENT SUPPORT THE UNIVERSE IS FOR THIS NOVEMBER 6 ELECTION, CORRECT? 7 DR. DAVIDSON: THE UNIVERSE IS FOR THIS NOVEMBER 8 ELECTION. NOW WE ALSO SEGMENTED FOR BOTH LIKELY MAIL 9 BALLOT VOTERS OF NEXT YEAR, AS WELL AS NOVEMBER OF NEXT 10 YEAR. AND WE ARE FINDING CONSISTENT SUPPORT ACROSS THOSE 11 ELECTIONS. NOW A SURVEY IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME. AND THE 12 MORE TIME THAT PASSES, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT IS TO PREDICT 13 SUPPORT. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO WOULD IT BE ACCURATE 15 TO SAY THAT THE 71 PERCENT LIKELY SUPPORT THAT YOU POLLED 16 IS MORE ACCURATE CLOSER TO OUR TIME FRAME THAN LATER? 17 DR. DAVIDSON: ABSOLUTELY. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: OKAY. THANK YOU. 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I WILL WARN THERE 20 WAS A SCHOOL MEASURE THAT JUST FAILED RECENTLY SOMEWHERE 21 IN THE BAY AREA. 22 DR. DAVIDSON: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT -- 23 MR. HEATH: ALAMEDA. 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALAMEDA. 25 MS. SMITH: I MEAN I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T READ JUNE 24, 2010 50 1 TODAY'S -- DID IT FAIL TODAY? I HEARD THE SCHOOL DISTRICT 2 WAS STILL BELIEVING THEY WERE GOING TO PULL IT OUT -- 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, IS THAT RIGHT? 4 MS. SMITH: -- AT 68. THEY HAD 65.8. THEY 5 NEEDED TO MOVE UP TO 66.7. THEY BELIEVE WITH THE 6 ABSENTEES AND PROVISIONS THEY WERE GOING TO OBTAIN IT. 7 BUT IT WAS, I BELIEVE, A $600 -- CLOSE TO 600 8 PER PARCEL AND A 13 CENT PER SQUARE FOOT FOR COMMERCIAL. 9 IT WAS BASICALLY A GIGANTIC PARCEL TAX. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SAN MATEO DID NOT WIN BY 11 ALL THAT MUCH. IT WAS STATISTICALLY VERY SMALL. IT WAS 12 HUNDREDTHS OF A PERCENT. 13 MS. SMITH: 67.1 AS COMPARED TO 66.7 IN SUPPORT 14 FOR TAXES. 15 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 16 MS. SMITH: YES, BUT THEY WON. THEY ARE GETTING 17 THE MONEY. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: GOOD FOR THEM. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANKS VERY MUCH. I 20 APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. 21 SO, TRUSTEE GRIER, DO YOU WANT TO COME BACK 22 TO -- 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT MARKS. JUNE 24, 2010 51 1 ON THE AGENDA, WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE 2 SUNSHINE ORDINANCE. WE ARE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT 3 ARTICLE III OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS POLICY AND PROCEDURES. 4 IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. IT'S NOT ALL 5 WRITTEN ON LIKE MINE, BUT WE WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE 6 ISSUES THAT ARE HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR 7 DISCUSSION AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. 8 SO I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS 9 BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH ME ON ADAPTING THE SUNSHINE 10 ORDINANCE TO MEET THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF CITY COLLEGE OF 11 SAN FRANCISCO. 12 SO WITH THAT SAID, THE MIKE IS OPEN FOR 13 DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. 14 MR. GABOR: HI, MY NAME IS ATTILA GABOR. AND 15 I'M -- 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: BEFORE YOU START, DO WE HAVE 17 SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT OR NOT. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES, YOU SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING. 19 IT WAS E-MAILED TO YOU. 20 AND I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE HARD COPIES, LINDA? 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF NOT, JUST GO AHEAD. I WAS 22 JUST CHECKING TO SEE. GO AHEAD. 23 MR. GABOR: SO AS TRUSTEE GRIER MENTIONED, 24 ARTICLE III WAS PART OF THOSE THREE -- ONE OF THE THREE 25 ARTICLES THAT WERE WAS DISCUSSED. TWO OF THEM HAD BEEN JUNE 24, 2010 52 1 PASSED BY THE TRUSTEES. I THINK, I BELIEVE, THE LAST ONE 2 WAS IN MAYBE AUGUST OR OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. 3 AND THIS WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT WAS 4 INTRODUCED IN 2006. IT WAS A LONG SAGA THAT WE GOT THAT 5 FAR. AND FINALLY, I BELIEVE, IT WAS AT THE MARCH MEETING 6 OF THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL WE HAD APPROVED A VERSION. 7 I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT I BELIEVE 8 THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK -- I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT I AM 9 JUST ASKING AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED WITH THIS DOCUMENT. I 10 AM NOT A LAWYER. I'M NOT REPRESENTING THE CLASSIFIED 11 SENATE. I AM SIMPLY SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED WITH IT. AND 12 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE KIND OF ON THE SAME 13 PAGE. 14 AND I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK FRANCINE PODENSKI WHO 15 WORKED WITH IT CLOSELY SO THERE IS ALSO A FACULTY 16 INVOLVEMENT ON THE CLASSIFIED SIDE. 17 ONE OF THE -- FIRST OF ALL, THROUGHOUT THE 18 DOCUMENTS, THERE'S, I BELIEVE, ON THREE DIFFERENT PAGES 19 AND THIS IS SMALL YET. IT SEEMED TO BE IMPORTANT ENOUGH 20 WHEN WE ARE MAKING COPIES OF HUNDREDS OF -- POTENTIALLY 21 THOUSANDS OF PAGES THAT IT POINTS OUT THAT THE FEE FOR 22 MAKING COPIES IS 1 CENT. 23 AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM RON LEE, WHO IS NOT 24 HERE WHO IS THE LEGAL COUNSEL THAT WE CHARGE THAT 15 CENTS 25 PER COPY SO THAT APPEARS ON SEVERAL PAGES. FOR EXAMPLE, JUNE 24, 2010 53 1 PAGE 7, IS ONE OF THEM. 2 DO YOU KNOW WHICH OTHER PAGES THAT STUFF IS -- 3 I KNOW I WROTE IT DOWN, BUT I CAN'T SUDDENLY 4 FIND IT. BUT ANYWAY, IT'S ON TWO DIFFERENT PAGES. 5 IF YOU GO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE 9, I'M NOT GOING 6 TO GO PAGE BY PAGE IF IT'S OKAY. THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF 7 PAGE 9 TALKS ABOUT DRAFT VERSIONS OF AGREEMENTS THAT ARE 8 BEING NEGOTIATED. THAT SHOULD BE CAPPED. AND WE JUST 9 WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING SO THE DISTRICT 10 EMPLOYEES KNOW IN THE FUTURE HOW TO HANDLE THAT. 11 WHAT CONSTITUTED THE DRAFT VERSIONS? HOW DEEP 12 DO WE NEED TO GO? DOES IT MEAN I JUST TYPE UP A DRAFT AND 13 I CHANGE MY MIND TWO MINUTES LATER AND I REWRITE IT, NOW 14 DO I NEED TO KEEP BOTH VERSION OR JUST HAVE SOME 15 FORMALITY, SOME PROCEDURE SO WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT. 16 AND THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ON THE VERY SAME 17 PAGE. WE ARE STILL ON PAGE 9, UNDER "A." IF YOU LOOK AT 18 THE SECTION, THERE WERE THREE AREAS WHERE SUBSECTIONS OF 19 THE SECTIONS WERE DELETED AND THERE WAS JUST SOME 20 QUESTIONS LIKE, OBVIOUSLY THAT BRINGS MORE SPECIFICITY TO 21 THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND SHOULD WE LEAVE IT? CAN WE TAKE 22 IT OUT? ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW. WE JUST ARE JUST 23 BRINGING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD. IT'S THE FINAL 24 DECISION WITH THE BOARD. 25 SOMEWHAT MORE SERIOUS CONCERN IS IF YOU GO ON JUNE 24, 2010 54 1 PAGE 9 A LITTLE BIT LOWER UNDER "LITIGATION MATERIAL" 2 UNDER "2" AND IF YOU LOOK AT "C." IT TALKS ABOUT ANY 3 WRITTEN SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND ANY DOCUMENTS ATTACHED OR 4 REFERENCED IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT SHALL BE MADE 5 PUBLIC TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING OF THE BOARD. 6 AND THE QUESTION WAS JUST IN THE INTEREST OF THE 7 DISTRICT, WOULDN'T IT BE MORE PRUDENT TO NOT PUBLISH THIS 8 PRIOR TO THE MEETING, THAT MAYBE POSSIBLE -- SO WE WANTED 9 TO MAKE SURE THAT STUFF LIKE THIS -- DOES IT MEAN THAT 10 PRIOR THAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO VOTE ON IT OR IS IT NOT A 11 SETTLEMENT OR HAS IT BEEN FINALIZED? 12 WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE 13 SETTLEMENT IS NOT FINALIZED, WE ARE GOING TO PLAY OUT OUR 14 CARDS IN ADVANCE. SO JUST, ONCE AGAIN, WE WANTED TO MAKE 15 SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS -- WE ARE IN SYNC WITH EVERYTHING. 16 ON PAGE 10, SINCE I'M IN THE AREA, LET ME JUST 17 CONTINUE. UNDER 4(B), THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS. AND, 18 ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST CONCERNS AND IT'S UP TO THE 19 BOARD TO DECIDE. UNDER 4(B), THE QUESTION WAS THAT WHEN 20 WE ARE DISPLAYING INFORMATION ABOUT COMMITTEES, IT'S OKAY 21 TO DISPLAY THE SCORE SHEETS AND THE FORMS AND THE NAME OF 22 THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BUT THE SCORE SHOULD NOT BE 23 DISPLAYED INDIVIDUALLY ATTACHED TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, 24 BUT THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE BECAUSE YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT 25 WAS THE DECISION JUST BASED ON THAT. JUNE 24, 2010 55 1 PAGE 11, UNDER "C," ONCE AGAIN, IT WAS GOING 2 BACK TO THE NEGOTIATION. AND THERE WAS, ONCE AGAIN, IS IT 3 PRUDENT TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION AND MAKE INFORMATION 4 AVAILABLE DURING THE COURSE OF THE NEGOTIATION OR WOULD 5 THAT BE MORE PRUDENT TO ACTUALLY BE ALLOWED THAT 6 INFORMATION AFTER? 7 AFTER ALL, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE THE SAME 8 INFORMATION IF SOMETHING WAS DONE THAT WASN'T KOSHER, 9 SOMETHING THAT WASN'T A FAIR GAME. THE INFORMATION WILL 10 COME OUT, YET, IT WILL NOT JEOPARDIZE THE COURSE OF THE 11 NEGOTIATION. 12 AND THEN THERE WAS SOME LEGAL ISSUES, BUT SINCE 13 RON IS NOT HERE I HONESTLY CANNOT ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE HAVE ANOTHER ATTORNEY 15 HERE -- 16 MR. GABOR: WHAT? 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO -- 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE NEVER 19 SEEN IT. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 21 MR. GABOR: I KNOW. 22 SO THEN LET'S GO BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 23 DOCUMENT, PAGE 3. I'M SORRY I STARTED AT THE BACK. 24 PAGE 3, IF YOU GO UNDER 6(E) AND THIS IS 25 PERTAINING TO THE COST OF THE END OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. JUNE 24, 2010 56 1 IT REFUSES OR FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THIS ARTICLE. AND 2 THERE WAS A SECTION THAT IT SHOULD GO TO THE CHANCELLOR. 3 BUT AFTER THE CHANCELLOR IS WORKING WITH IT, AND IT IS 4 STILL NOT TO THE SATISFACTION, SHOULD IT NOT GO TO THE 5 BOARD OF TRUSTEES FIRST BEFORE IT WOULD GO TO THE SUNSHINE 6 OF THIS. SHOULDN'T THAT BE THE NEXT STOP? 7 SO THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP -- 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT PAGE WAS THAT AGAIN? 9 MR. GABOR: I'M SORRY. I'M ON PAGE 3. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: PAGE 3, 6(E). 11 MR. GABOR: 6(E). 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 13 MR. GABOR: I'M SORRY. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THAT THE ONE THAT 15 ORIGINALLY SAID, "SUNSHINE TASK FORCE." 16 MR. GABOR: YEAH. AND WE WERE ASKING SHOULDN'T 17 THAT GO TO THE BOARD BEFORE IT GOES TO SUNSHINE SO THE 18 BOARD WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE IT AND POSSIBLY 19 SOLVE IT AND, THUS, ELIMINATING SOME OF THE EXTRA WORK FOR 20 THE SUNSHINE TASK FORCE, WHICH WOULD BE, I PRESUME, 21 EVERYONE'S INTEREST. 22 SO AS I WAS MENTIONING, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF 23 THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. YOU ARE THE DECISION MAKERS, 24 SO YOU GUYS HAVE THE FINAL SAY OBVIOUSLY. WE ARE JUST 25 ASKING. JUNE 24, 2010 57 1 AND UNDER -- AND RELATING TO THAT WAS UNDER 2 PAGE 4, UNDER "9," IF IT FOLLOWS THE SAME PROCEDURE AND 3 THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MORE -- I KNOW THAT RON LEE WAS 4 TALKING -- SHOULD THAT, IF A RULING -- WE ARE BELIEVERS -- 5 OR OVERTURNED -- AND IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT IT SHOULD NOT 6 GO JUST BY A COURT AND TAKE THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE. I 7 PERSONALLY DON'T CARRY THE WEIGHT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, 8 BUT THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT RON LEE BROUGHT UP. 9 THEN UNDER THE SAME PAGE 4, "B," THERE WAS SOME 10 QUESTION THAT THEY WERE TAKING OFF SOME SECTION THAT 11 PERTAINED TO THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC RECORD ACTS. WE DON'T 12 KNOW WHY, MAYBE THERE WAS NO NEED, MAYBE THERE WAS NEED. 13 WE DON'T KNOW ONCE AGAIN. 14 THE VERY SAME QUESTION DID COME UP ON PAGE 6 15 UNDER "H(1)," BUT THERE WAS ALSO SOME OF THE PUBLIC RECORD 16 ACT VOTES WERE TAKEN OUT. 17 AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: COULD I ADD TO THAT, ATTILA. 19 MR. GABOR: YES. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FEE, 21 WHEN THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR THE DOCUMENT. 22 MR. GABOR: THAT'S CORRECT. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT 24 AMOUNTS THAT ARE MENTIONED, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE 25 HAVE TO DECIDE AS A BOARD -- JUNE 24, 2010 58 1 MR. GABOR: RIGHT. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- AND ALSO AS A COMMITTEE. 3 WILL IT BE 1 CENT PER PAGE? WILL IT BE 4 CENTS OR WILL IT 4 BE 15 CENTS FOR EACH PAGE? 5 MR. GABOR: MY UNDERSTANDING WAS FROM RON LEE 6 THAT CURRENTLY THE DISTRICT CHARGES 15 CENTS UNDER THE 7 STANDARD FOR DISTRICTS. BUT, ONCE AGAIN, I CAN'T SPEAK TO 8 THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT HE RECOMMENDED. 9 AND SINCE IT SEEMS LIKE A MINOR ISSUE, BUT WHEN 10 YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OR POSSIBLY THOUSANDS OF 11 PAGES, THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE WHETHER THEY ARE CHARGING 1 12 CENT OR 15 CENTS. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: EXACTLY. 14 MR. GABOR: AND THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO ADDRESS 15 AN INDEX OF RECORDS. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE 16 JUST AN ISSUE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS AGAINST IT. I 17 DON'T KNOW IF FRANCINE WANTS TO OR IF KAREN, WHO IS A 18 LIBRARIAN, MAY BE KNOWS. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO, FRANCINE, WOULD YOU 20 INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE. 21 MS. PODENSKI: FRANCINE PODENSKI, FROM THE 22 BROADCAST ELECTRONIC MEDIA ARTS DEPARTMENT AND ALSO A 23 RESOURCE TO THIS COMMITTEE THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS 24 DOCUMENT FOR SOME TIME. 25 I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT FIRST ABOUT JUNE 24, 2010 59 1 THE -- AS I RECALL THE DIFFERENT -- WE HAD QUITE A 2 DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COST OF COPYING. AND AS I RECALL, WE 3 SUGGESTED THAT THE DOCUMENT SAY, "UP TO 15 CENTS." SO IF 4 IN THE FUTURE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO CHARGE 15 CENTS, MAYBE WE 5 ONLY HAD TO CHARGE 5 OR 10 OR 1 CENT. IT LEAVES SOME 6 LEEWAY THAT TRULY WE ARE JUST PASSING ON THE COST OF 7 COPYING TO THE REQUESTER. AND PERHAPS AS WE GET TO -- WE 8 COULD JUST GIVE THEM AN ELECTRONIC DOCUMENT AND THAT WOULD 9 BE FREE. IT'S THE COST OF THE PAPER AND THE COPYING. 10 SO I SUGGEST AN "UP TO 15 CENTS," INSTEAD OF 11 SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE. I THINK THINGS 12 CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR. 13 NOW IN THE INDEX AREA, THIS WAS IN THE BACK 14 SOMEWHERE. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: IT WAS ON -- 16 MS. PODENSKI: PAGE -- 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: IT WAS ON PAGE 15. 18 MS. PODENSKI: PAGE 15. WE AGREED THAT THIS 19 WOULD BE A REALLY WONDERFUL RESOURCE TO HAVE IN OUR 20 COLLEGE, BUT THE WORKLOAD ISSUE IS SIGNIFICANT TO CREATE A 21 PROPER INDEX. THE TIMELINE WITHIN SIX MONTHS, ESPECIALLY 22 GIVEN THE STATE THAT OUR DISTRICT IS IN RIGHT NOW IN TERMS 23 OF RESOURCES WHICH MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING THE JOB OF TWO OR 24 THREE, I DON'T THINK IT COULD HAPPEN IN SIX MONTHS. 25 AND THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBLY, JUNE 24, 2010 60 1 YOU KNOW, A LIBRARY TECHNOLOGY STUDENT PROJECT. I'M NOT 2 SURE THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. 3 I DID TALK TO KAREN. KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC 4 SENATE PRESIDENT WHO IS ALSO A LIBRARIAN, MIGHT WANT TO 5 SPEAK TO WHAT INDEXING REALLY ENTAILS BECAUSE IF IT'S 6 GOING TO BE USEFUL TO THE PUBLIC, IT SHOULD BE A PROPER 7 INDEX. 8 AND THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, WE REALLY WANT TO 9 PAY ATTENTION TO WORKLOAD ISSUES, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW. 10 WE SHOULD BE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO CREATE PUBLIC 11 DOCUMENTS ON REQUEST. AT THE SAME TIME OUR PRIMARY 12 MISSION IS TO TEACH STUDENTS. AND WE'VE GOT TO BALANCE 13 SOMEHOW ALL OF THAT, AND IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT 14 WE ARE IN. SO THAT'S A COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE JUST 15 ABOUT THE DOCUMENT AS A WHOLE AS YOU CONSIDER IN OUR 16 WORKLOAD ISSUES. 17 WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE FACED WITH OPENING A 18 DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC RECORDS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD 19 THAT RIGHT NOW. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO OFFER ALL OUR CLASSES, 20 BUT MAYBE THAT CAN BE IN THE FUTURE WHEN THERE'S MORE 21 RESOURCES. 22 I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, UNLESS THERE'S 23 SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH 24 SUMMARIZES OUR LAST MEETING PRETTY FAIRLY. YOU'VE GOT 25 MORE DETAILS THEN ANY OF US, ANITA, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE JUNE 24, 2010 61 1 TO SAY. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, I WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE 3 PUBLIC. 4 MS. PODENSKI: AND KAREN MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO 5 THE INDEX ISSUE BECAUSE SHE KNOWS ABOUT INDEXING. 6 MS. SAGINOR: INDEED CREATING A USEFUL INDEX 7 IS -- 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 9 MS. SAGINOR: I'M SORRY. KAREN SAGINOR, 10 ACADEMIC SENATE PRESIDENT AND LIBRARIAN. 11 CREATING A USEFUL INDEX DOES INVOLVE A FAIR 12 AMOUNT OF HUMAN INTERFERENCE. IT'S NOT USUALLY SOMETHING 13 THAT CAN JUST BE DONE AUTOMATICALLY. 14 ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES IS WHAT WE CALL, 15 "AUTHORITY WORK." I MEAN YOU WANT TO HAVE EVERYTHING ON 16 ONE SUBJECT GET THE SAME TERM. IN FACT JUST WORKING 17 THROUGH THE FILES AT THE ACADEMIC SENATE OFFICE, I FOUND A 18 FILE CALLED, "FACILITIES COMMITTEE." AND I FOUND ANOTHER 19 FILE CALLED, "FACILITIES REVIEW COMMITTEE." AND YET 20 ANOTHER FILED CALLED, "COMMITTEE ON FACILITIES." SO TO 21 AVOID THOSE KINDS OF PROBLEMS, IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO 22 ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO FIND EVERYTHING THAT INVOLVES THE SAME 23 TOPIC, THEN THAT REQUIRES QUITE A BIT OF KEEPING TRACK OF 24 WHAT SUBJECT TERMS WERE USED, A CONTROLLED SUBJECT 25 VOCABULARY AND SO FORTH. IT'S NOT A TRIVIAL PIECE OF WORK JUNE 24, 2010 62 1 AT ALL. IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE LABOR INTENSIVE. THANK YOU. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: I JUST WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY 4 WE ARE AT 15 MINUTES. WE CAN GO FOR ANOTHER 10 MINUTES 5 AND THEN SEE WHERE WE ARE. 6 GO AHEAD. 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: MAYBE SOMEONE COULD 8 ADDRESS IT. MY READING OF THE LANGUAGE IS THAT IT DID NOT 9 ASK FOR A -- IT DID NOT REQUIRE AN INDEX OF ACTUAL 10 DOCUMENTS, AN INDEX OF WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, BUT AN INDEX -- 11 IT SAYS, "AN INDEX OF TYPES OF INFORMATION," WHICH TO ME 12 SOUNDED MORE LIKE A TABLE OF CONTENTS THEN AN INDEX. SO 13 THE ENTRIES IN THE INDEX WOULDN'T BE INDIVIDUAL DOCUMENTS, 14 THEY WOULD BE CATEGORIES OF DOCUMENTS. 15 IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? 16 MR. COMSTOCK: THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. 17 MY NAME IS DOUG COMSTOCK. I HAVE BEEN PUSHING 18 FOR SUNSHINE FOR CITY COLLEGE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND I 19 THINK IT IS VERY TIMELY RIGHT NOW IF YOU'RE HAVING AN 20 ELECTION, YOU'RE GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO COME UP WITH $49, 21 ESPECIALLY HOMEOWNERS. WE ARE GOING TO BE A VERY RETICENT 22 TO PART WITH $49. 23 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU SHOW THAT 24 THINGS HAVE CHANGED AT CITY COLLEGE, THAT THERE HAS BEEN A 25 SEA OF CHANGE IN FACT. AND I THINK ADOPTING A SUNSHINE JUNE 24, 2010 63 1 ORDINANCE THAT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE OPEN, THAT YOUR BOOKS 2 ARE OPEN, THE BACK ROOMS ARE OPEN, THINGS HAVE CHANGED AT 3 CITY COLLEGE. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU PASS THESE 4 SUNSHINE LAWS RIGHT NOW. 5 IN ORDER TO ASSURE THE VOTERS THAT THE SAME 6 THING IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN THAT HAPPENED LAST 7 TIME. THE SCANDALOUS BEHAVIOR THAT WE ARE ALL NOW PAYING 8 FOR. 9 WITH REGARD -- I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH A FEW 10 OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. AND I JUST WANT 11 TO SAY THAT SUNSHINE HAS BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I WAS 12 PART OF THE SAN FRANCISCO SUNSHINE COMMITTEE. WE GOT THE 13 SUNSHINE ORDINANCE ON THE BALLOT. I WENT OUT AND STOOD ON 14 THE STREET CORNER AND COLLECTED SIGNATURES. THE VOTERS 15 VOTED FOR IT AND NOW WE HAVE IT. 16 I THINK SAN FRANCISCANS LOVE THEIR SUNSHINE. 17 AND I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE VERY PLEASED THAT CITY 18 COLLEGE HAS A COMPLETE SUNSHINE PACKAGE. 19 WITH REGARDS TO THE 1 CENT TO 15 CENTS, THE SAN 20 FRANCISCO SUNSHINE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT THOSE COPIES THAT 21 ARE MADE IN MULTIPLE -- THAT ARE FREE AND DISTRIBUTED TO 22 THE PUBLIC, SUCH AS AGENDAS THAT ARE SITTING OVER ON THE 23 TABLE THERE, THAT IF PEOPLE REQUEST THEM IN THE MAIL, YOU 24 CANNOT CHANGE MORE THAN 1 CENT PER PAGE FOR THOSE ITEMS. 25 YOU ARE GIVING THEM AWAY FREE. SO CHARGING 1 CENT FOR JUNE 24, 2010 64 1 THINGS LIKE AGENDAS, I THINK THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 2 WITH REGARD TO UP TO 15 CENTS OR 5 CENTS, WE 3 HAVE FOUND, AND I WAS PART OF THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE TASK 4 FORCE WHERE I WAS A CHAIR FOR THREE YEARS. WE FOUND THAT 5 THE MAXIMUM WAS THE NORMAL. NO MATTER -- WHEN PEOPLE CAME 6 IN TO ASK FOR DOCUMENTS, EACH DEPARTMENT CHARGED THEM THE 7 MAXIMUM. THERE WAS NEVER ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE ACTUAL 8 COST OF PRODUCING THE DOCUMENTS. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: DOESN'T CITY HALL CHARGE 20 10 CENTS? 11 MR. COMSTOCK: NO. NO. THEY HAVE TO CHARGE THE 12 ACTUAL COST. AND THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THAT'S HOW MUCH 13 IT COST THEM. NOW IF THEY ARE NOW APPROVING -- 14 TRUSTEE WONG: I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE 15 DEPARTMENTS CHARGES 20 CENTS. 16 MR. COMSTOCK: WELL, IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD 17 COMPLAIN TO THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE TASK FORCE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: BECAUSE I ASKED FOR A COPY AND IT 19 WAS 20 CENTS A COPY. 20 MR. COMSTOCK: WITH REGARD TO WHETHER THOSE 21 COMPLAINTS WHICH ARE NOT FULFILLED, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY 22 ASKS FOR A DOCUMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER REFUSES TO 23 GIVE THEM THE DOCUMENT, THEY COMPLAIN. THEY GO TO THE 24 CHANCELLOR AND THE CHANCELLOR SAYS, MY HANDS ARE TIED, I 25 CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEN THEY HAVE TO COMPLAIN JUNE 24, 2010 65 1 TO -- IN THIS DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU, I BELIEVE IT SAYS THEY 2 THEN GO TO THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE TASK FORCE. 3 AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY COME TO 4 A COMMITTEE THAT IS SET UP BY THIS BOARD. AND I WOULD 5 AGREE WITH THAT CHANGE, RATHER THAN GOING TO THE SUNSHINE 6 ORDINANCE TASK FORCE FIRST. THEIR FIRST APPEAL SHOULD BE 7 MADE TO SOMEONE FROM THIS BOARD OR SOME COMMITTEE OF THIS 8 BOARD WHO COULD DEAL WITH THAT SORT OF THING. 9 WITH REGARD TO UNION NEGOTIATIONS, I HAVE TO 10 ADMIT I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN UNION NEGOTIATIONS. I HAVE 11 NEVER BEEN TO ONE. I HAVE NEVER BEEN A MEMBER OF A UNION. 12 I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WORK. 13 I KNOW THAT THIS IS HOW THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE 14 FOR SAN FRANCISCO SETS OUT, AND IT SEEMS TO WORK FINE FOR 15 THE CITY. THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BY 16 THIS BOARD. AND I THINK THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY MAKE THE 17 RIGHT DECISION BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANT A GOOD SUNSHINE 18 PROCEDURE. 19 WITH REGARD TO THE INDEX OF RECORDS, THE SAN 20 FRANCISCO INDEX OF RECORDS HAS BEEN THE MAJOR FAILURE OF 21 THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYBODY 22 ACTUALLY USES IT OR REFERS TO IT. AND I'M SORRY THAT 23 THAT'S THE WAY IT HAPPENED, BUT I WOULD NOT BE REMISS IF 24 YOU STRUCK OUT THE WHOLE ITEM. 25 I THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME BECAUSE JUNE 24, 2010 66 1 THERE WERE VERY MANY RECORDS. PEOPLE WERE CONFUSED ABOUT 2 WHERE DO THEY GO FOR CERTAIN RECORDS, BUT I DON'T THINK 3 THAT'S THE CASE ANYMORE. I THINK THAT NOW WE DON'T REALLY 4 NEED THAT INDEX OF RECORDS. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: ARE YOU SAYING THAT CITY COLLEGE 6 WOULD NOT NEED TO CREATE A NEW INDEX? 7 MR. COMSTOCK: I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED 8 TO. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS KAREN 10 AND FRANCINE -- THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE 11 BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF WORKLOAD. 12 MR. COMSTOCK: IF IT'S A WORKLOAD QUESTION, I 13 DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY FOR SUNSHINE -- FOR A REALLY 14 GOOD SUNSHINE PROCESS FOR YOU TO HAVE THE INDEX OF 15 RECORDS. THE RECORDS AT CITY COLLEGE ARE PRETTY 16 STRAIGHTFORWARD. YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO FOR WHAT. IT'S NOT 17 A HUGE BURGEONING THING LIKE CITY HALL IS. 18 WITH REGARD TO THE WORKLOAD ISSUE FOR GIVING 19 DOCUMENTS TO PEOPLE WHO ASK FOR THEM, THE CHANCELLOR, 20 PRIOR TO THE CURRENT CHANCELLOR, TOLD THE SUNSHINE TASK 21 FORCE IN PUBLIC SESSION THAT THERE WERE ONLY TWO OR THREE 22 REQUESTS PER YEAR FOR DOCUMENTS. NOW I'M ASSUMING THAT'S 23 STILL TRUE. 24 IF IT'S NOT TRUE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SORT OF 25 HOW MANY DOCUMENT REQUESTS ARE DEALT WITH BY CITY COLLEGE, JUNE 24, 2010 67 1 SO WE CAN GET SOME IDEA OF WHAT THE WORKLOAD WOULD BE 2 BEFORE WE THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER. 3 SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS A VERY 4 STRONG SUNSHINE PROCESS AND SET CITY COLLEGE OUT AS THE 5 FIRST OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO ADOPT A STRONGER OPEN 6 GOVERNMENT POLICY. THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 8 ATTILA. 9 MR. GABOR: ATTILA GABOR AGAIN. I'M SORRY. 10 WELL, IT PASSED IN THE SHARED GOVERNANCE TODAY ACTUALLY. 11 ON PAGE 15 AND ALSO ON PAGE 16, AND THIS IS JUST TO KEEP 12 IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE OTHER PART OF THE SUNSHINE 13 ORDINANCE THAT WE ALREADY PASSED. 14 BUT UNDER "R" NO. 1, IT DOES REFER TO ITPC, 15 INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY POLICY. WE SHOULD ADD "AND COLLEGE 16 ADVISORY COUNCIL" BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT COMES TO THE BOARD. 17 THAT'S WHERE IT IS FINALIZED. 18 SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN IT SAYS, 19 "THIS IS SUBJECT TO TECHNICAL FEASIBILITY AS (INAUDIBLE) 20 BY THE ITCP," AND WE SHOULD PUT "AND COLLEGE ADVISORY 21 COUNCIL." 22 AND THE SAME IS THE CASE PAGE 16 UNDER "D," IT 23 SHOULD SAY, "ADDING METHODS OF IMPLEMENTATION MUST BE 24 APPROVED BY ITCP AND COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL." JUST, 25 ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE IN THE EARLIER PART OF THE SUNSHINE JUNE 24, 2010 68 1 ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED LAST YEAR, WE NEED TO INDICATE 2 THAT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO GO TO EITHER ACADEMIC SENATE, 3 COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL OR PLANNING AND BUDGETING 4 COUNCIL. AND ITPC FALLS UNDER THE COLLEGE ADVISORY 5 COUNCIL, SO THAT'S ALL. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, 7 ATTILA. 8 MR. GABOR: YES. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU ARE SAYING ON PAGE 15 WHERE 10 IT SAYS, "(R) THE POLICY REGARDING PUBLIC RECORDS AND THE 11 COLLEGE INFORMATION SYSTEM." THAT IT SHOULD BE "ITCP, 12 I.T.S. AND CAC." 13 MR. GABOR: "ITCP AND COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL." 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 15 MR. GABOR: AND "I.T.S." I GUESS. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND "I.T.S." AND THEN THE SAME 17 ON PAGE 16. 18 MR. GABOR: PAGE 16, UNDER "D," IT'S "ITCP," IT 19 SHOULD SAY. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND "CAC." 21 MR. GABOR: "CAC," THAT'S CORRECT. JUST TO 22 FINALIZE THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 24 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, FROM THE LIBRARY. 25 I JUST WANT TO ADD TO MY -- I SPOKE SO NARROWLY JUNE 24, 2010 69 1 BEFORE. I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF 2 GOOD EXISTING FINDING TOOLS THROUGH THE COLLEGE WEBSITE, 3 THROUGH THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE KEPT IN ARCHIVES AND 4 SO FORTH. 5 SO IN TERMS OF HELPING PEOPLE FIND DOCUMENTS, 6 THE LIBRARIANS WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP THEM FIND, YOU KNOW, 7 WHAT COMMITTEE IT IS THAT MIGHT HAVE HANDLED THIS, WHO IS 8 IT IS, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THAT COMMITTEE AND ANY OF THE 9 OTHER KINDS OF INFORMATION THEY MIGHT NEED TO REQUEST 10 DOCUMENTS. WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO FACILITATE 11 THAT. THANK YOU. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO, TRUSTEE GRIER, IN TERMS OF 14 MOVING FORWARD FROM HERE, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF A 15 TIMETABLE ON WHEN YOU MIGHT BE COMING BACK, EITHER TO US 16 OR TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO START WITH? 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT THE NEXT 18 STEP SHOULD BE THE POLICY COMMITTEE? 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK IF THERE'S A 20 RELATIVELY COMPLETE DRAFT OF SOMETHING THAT COULD GO TO 21 THEM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. I KNOW JULY -- IS THERE A 23 MEETING OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE IN JULY OR WILL IT BE 24 AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER? 25 MS. SHAW: IT'S JULY. JUNE 24, 2010 70 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THERE IS ONE IN JULY. IT'S 2 ON THE 8TH. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE COULD BRING BACK -- 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK THERE WILL BE ONE IN 5 JULY. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE COULD BRING BACK A DRAFT TO 7 THE POLICY COMMITTEE JULY 8TH THAT INCLUDES THE COMMENTS 8 THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TODAY AND ALSO THE KIND OF MISTAKES 9 THAT WE FOUND IN THE DOCUMENT AFTER GOING OVER IT SEVERAL 10 TIMES. SO I WOULD SAY THAT JULY 8TH WE WOULD HAVE A DRAFT 11 TO BRING BEFORE THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AS THE NEXT 12 STEP. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. GREAT. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I MEAN THERE WERE 15 QUESTIONS ASKED TODAY. THERE WEREN'T NECESSARILY ANY 16 RESOLUTION TO THE QUESTIONS. I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TO 17 BE FLAGGED RATHER THAN EDITED SINCE THERE WAS NO DECISION 18 REALLY HERE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHAT WE DO HAVE, TRUSTEE RIZZO, 20 IS ACCESS TO DOUG COMSTOCK, WHO WAS THE FORMER PRESIDENT 21 OF THE SUNSHINE TASK FORCE. 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND HE WAS THE ONE THAT WE 24 STARTED WORKING WITH SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN TRYING TO 25 DEVELOP A SUNSHINE ORDINANCE FOR THE COLLEGE. JUNE 24, 2010 71 1 THE OTHER AGREEMENT WE HAD IS ACCESS TO THE 2 EXISTING SUNSHINE ORDINANCE TASK FORCE. THEY HAD BEEN -- 3 I HAVE BEEN TO THEIR MEETINGS. AND I'VE ASKED FOR 4 CLARIFICATION ASSISTANCE AND HELP. AND I HAVE BEEN ABLE 5 TO GET IT. AND I WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND BRING BACK A 6 DOCUMENT WITH THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS IN A DRAFT FORM 7 OF THE COLLEGE'S POLICY. I WILL DO THAT. 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF THERE'S NO OTHER -- THANK 10 YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION. AND I'M GLAD TO SEE 11 THAT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. 12 IS THIS A CARD ABOUT THIS NOW? 13 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: THIS IS FOR AFTER. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AFTER THE FACT. 15 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: AFTER THE FACT, YES. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS 17 ACTUALLY GET A SENSE OF WHO IS HERE FOR SPECIFIC 18 RESOLUTIONS, SO I CAN LOOK -- I KNOW 25. 19 ARE THERE PEOPLE HERE FOR SPECIFIC RESOLUTIONS 20 SO WE CAN HANDLE THOSE AND GET YOU OUT OF HERE. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE HAVE JACK SLOAN HERE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE HAVE JACK SLOAN HERE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WANT TO 25 DO THIS FIRST ACTUALLY. JUNE 24, 2010 72 1 SO IT'S JUST S25, NO ONE IS HERE FOR ANY OTHER 2 RESOLUTION. 3 IF SOMEONE CAN MOVE S25, PLEASE. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 8 I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE HAD A RESOLUTION 9 ON OUR AGENDA LAST MONTH TALKING ABOUT CREDIT CARDS FOR 10 THE DISTRICT. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CREDIT CARDS THAT 11 WAS ON THAT VERY SHORT LIST OF FIVE I THINK. 12 AND GIVEN THE REALLY GREAT NEED AND HARDSHIP 13 THAT THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WOULD HAVE WITHOUT A 14 CREDIT CARD, I WANTED TO HAVE US LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND 15 SEE IF WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. MY UNDERSTANDING 16 ALSO IS THAT THE PROGRAM HAS A CREDIT CARD. 17 JOHN BILMONT. 18 CFO BILMONT: JOHN BILMONT, CHIEF FINANCIAL 19 OFFICER. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MARKS. 20 THE RESOLUTION YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS ME 21 BRINGING BACK THE CREDIT CARD FOR THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT 22 PROGRAM. WE DID GO OUT AND CANCEL ALL THE OTHER CREDIT 23 CARDS PER YOUR INSTRUCTIONS LAST MONTH. AND THEN THERE 24 WAS A DISCUSSION TOWARDS THE END OF THIS MONTH AS WE COULD 25 NOT FIND A SUBSTITUTE SET OF SERVICES THAT WOULD REALLY JUNE 24, 2010 73 1 DELIVER BACK THE CHILDHOOD PROGRAM, THE ABILITIES THEY 2 HAVE WITH THIS CURRENT STRUCTURE WITH SAFEWAY INC. I MIGHT 3 ADD. 4 AND SO THIS RESOLUTION IS BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND 5 I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO VOTE "YES." I CAN ALSO 6 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? 8 TRUSTEE BERG. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SO ARE WE GETTING THESE BACK ONE 10 BY ONE NOW. IS THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO, IT WILL NOT BE DONE THAT 12 WAY. 13 CFO BILMONT: MAYBE RESOLUTION BY RESOLUTION. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: SO AS I STIPULATED LAST TIME, I 15 THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE. I THINK IT IS MORE THAN 16 APPROPRIATE. I THINK IT IS NECESSARY. YOU CAN'T EXPECT 17 PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING PEOPLE TO HAVE IN THEIR CHECKBOOKS 18 OR POCKETBOOKS OR POCKETS MONEY THAT THEY NEED TO RUN 19 PROGRAMS ON A DAILY BASIS. 20 CFO BILMONT: AND THERE IS A HEALTH AND SAFETY 21 ISSUE WITH PEOPLE DRIVING TO THE STORE AND THAT SORT OF 22 THING. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S TRUE. 24 CFO BILMONT: WE WOULD RATHER HAVE THEM THERE 25 WATCHING OUR CHILDREN. JUNE 24, 2010 74 1 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S TRUE. AND SO I AM VERY 2 MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD 3 WITH IT. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT S25 5 FROM THE BOARD OR FROM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE 6 VOTE? 7 THE STUDENT TRUSTEE IS NOT HERE. 8 SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S25, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 9 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): (ABSENT.) 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS ANYBODY OPPOSED? 18 THAT'S FIVE TO NOTHING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 19 NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO THE SPECIAL PRESENTATION 20 ON THE SLBE REPORT. 21 MR. SLOAN: GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS 22 OF THE BOARD, CHANCELLOR. MY NAME IS JAKE SLOAN. I'M 23 PRESIDENT OF THE DAVILLIER-SLOAN, INC. THANK YOU FOR 24 ALLOWING US TO MAKE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. 25 IN JANUARY THE DAVILLIER-SLOAN, INC. IN JUNE 24, 2010 75 1 ASSOCIATION WITH ASIAN INC. WAS AWARDED A CONTRACT TO 2 MANAGE YOUR SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE PROGRAM. 3 ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO 4 DO IS ASSESS THE CURRENT PROGRAM AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS 5 ON HOW IT MIGHT BE MADE A STRONGER PROGRAM. WE HAVE 6 COMPLETED THAT. I HAVE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE 7 CHANCELLOR, AND I WANT TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU TONIGHT. 8 WE CAME TO THESE CONCLUSIONS FOR OUR 9 RECOMMENDATIONS AFTER MEETING WITH THE STAFF, YOUR PROGRAM 10 MANAGER, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, THE COMMUNITY MONITORS, AND 11 OTHER CONSULTANTS TO THE CHANCELLOR. THAT GAVE US A 12 CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE, THE SAME CONSTRAINTS, THE 13 BUDGET, UPCOMING PROJECTS, TO MAKE OUR DECISIONS ON TO 14 MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: EXCUSE ME. DID YOU PROVIDE THE 16 BOARD WITH SOME SORT OF SUMMARY OR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FOR 17 THE PRESENTATION? 18 MR. SLOAN: I DID NOT. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT I 19 SHOULD. I COULD DO THAT TOMORROW. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: IT PROBABLY WOULD HELP. 21 MR. SLOAN: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE GOING TO 23 MAKE PERIODIC REPORTS. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU CAN DO IT FOR THE NEXT ONE. 25 MR. SLOAN: I CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO PETER JUNE 24, 2010 76 1 TOMORROW AND COME BACK NEXT TIME AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS 2 THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK, BUT 4 I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT IN HARD COPY IN THE 5 FUTURE OF SOME EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. 6 MR. SLOAN: I THINK WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT TO 7 YOU ON A QUARTERLY BASIS FROM NOW ON AND WE WILL DO THAT. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, THAT WOULD HELP. THANK 9 YOU. AND IF WE COULD HAVE IT IN ADVANCE THAT WOULD BE 10 EVEN BETTER. 11 MR. SLOAN: OKAY. NOT A PROBLEM. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: GREAT. THANK YOU. 13 MR. SLOAN: NO. 1, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT FOR 14 NOW BECAUSE OF LIMITED BIDDING OPPORTUNITIES AND BECAUSE 15 OF THE CAPACITY OF THE SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE 16 COMMUNITY, THAT WE FOCUS ON UNLISTED WORK AS OPPOSED TO 17 THE NORMAL BIDDING PROCESS. AND LET ME BRIEFLY EXPLAIN 18 WHAT I MEAN. 19 WHEN THE MAJOR SUBCONTRACTORS LIKE AT CHINATOWN 20 BID ON A PROJECT, THEY BID TO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR. 21 THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE LISTED AS WORK TO BE DONE. 22 TO USE AS AN EXAMPLE, AN ELECTRICAL 23 SUBCONTRACTOR FOR A LARGE JOB, MAY AWARD 20 ADDITIONAL 24 SUBCONTRACTS TO DO THAT WORK, TO ACCOMPLISH THE WORK. IN 25 ADDITION, SOME OF ITS SUBCONTRACTORS WILL AWARD ADDITIONAL JUNE 24, 2010 77 1 CONTRACTS. NOW THAT'S OUTSIDE THE NORMAL BIDDING PROCESS. 2 YOU WOULD NEVER SEE IT. 3 WHAT WE INTEND TO DO IS WORK WITH THOSE 4 CONTRACTORS TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO US A LIST OF ALL OF THE 5 THINGS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUY IN THE COURSE OF THAT 6 PROJECT AND THEN WORK WITH US TO MATCH IT WITH LOCAL 7 BUSINESSES. BECAUSE AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW GIVEN THE 8 CURRENT STATE OF YOUR FUNDING, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR 9 UPCOMING PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED. SO WE HAVE TO 10 FOCUS ON THAT I THINK. 11 AND WE WILL DIRECT THIS AT ALL TIERS, OF ALL THE 12 SUBCONTRACTORS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE JOB. AND WE'VE 13 ALREADY BEGUN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. 14 NO. 2, WE WANT TO REFOCUS THE MAJOR OUTREACH 15 EVENT. OUR CONTRACT REQUIRES US TO HAVE TWO OUTREACH 16 EVENTS A YEAR. THOSE ARE USUALLY IN MY MIND BASICALLY DOG 17 AND PONY SHOWS TO TALK TO AND ENCOURAGE CONTRACTORS. 18 WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AT OUR OUTREACH EVENT IS 19 MATCH THE EXISTING CONTRACTORS AND THEIR OPPORTUNITIES 20 THAT THEY'VE MADE AWARE TO US WITH SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES 21 WHO ARE INTERESTED. 22 THE FIRST OUTREACH MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR 23 JULY 17TH. ALL THE SUBCONTRACTORS, THE GENERAL 24 CONTRACTORS AT CHINATOWN WILL BE AT THAT MEETING. AND 25 WE'VE INVITED ALL OF THE SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES IN OUR JUNE 24, 2010 78 1 DATA BASE. AND I WILL GET BACK TO THAT DATA BASE BRIEFLY. 2 ALL HAVE BEEN INVITED. AND, OF COURSE, ALL OF YOU ARE 3 INVITED IF YOU WOULD CARE TO COME, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO 4 HAVE YOU THERE. 5 IN ADDITION TO THE OUTREACH MEETINGS, WE ARE 6 GOING TO PROPOSE OR WE HAVE PROPOSED TO FOCUS ON 7 INDIVIDUALIZED OUTREACH WITH CONTRACTORS THAT ARE ON OUR 8 DATA BASE WHO HAVE INDICATED A REAL INTEREST IN WORKING ON 9 THIS PROJECT. AND WE ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON CERTAIN ZIP 10 CODES, AREAS THAT I KNOW THAT THE BOARD IS INTERESTED IN 11 INCREASING THE PARTICIPATION ON, AREAS LIKE BAYVIEW 12 HUNTERS POINT, VISITACION VALLEY. WE WILL FOCUS SPECIAL 13 ATTENTION ON THOSE ZIP CODES. 14 THE DATA BASE, WE INHERITED A DATA BASE THAT HAD 15 MORE THAN A THOUSAND LOCAL FIRMS IN IT. MOST OF THEM 16 WOULD NOT BID ON THIS WORK, COULD NOT BID ON THIS WORK 17 EVER. SO WE ARE DEVELOPING WHAT WE CALL A FOCUS DATA BASE 18 THAT IS FOCUSED ON THOSE FIRMS THAT HAVE INDICATED A REAL 19 INTEREST AND CAPACITY TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: ACTUALLY -- I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY, 21 WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THESE 22 CONTRACTORS ARE NOT ABLE TO BID BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST NOT 23 LARGE ENOUGH. THEY DON'T HAVE MANPOWER. AND THE WORD YOU 24 USE IS "CAPACITY." 25 MR. SLOAN: RIGHT. JUNE 24, 2010 79 1 TRUSTEE WONG: EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A THOUSAND ON 2 THE DATA BASE, MOST OF THEM -- WE ARE TALKING SLBE'S DON'T 3 HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BID ON THESE PROJECTS. 4 MR. SLOAN: RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: THERE'S TEN. 6 MR. SLOAN: THEY MAY BE LISTED AS MECHANICAL 7 CONTRACTOR WHEN IN FACT THEY INSTALL HOT WATER HEATERS IN 8 HOMES. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. SO THEY LOOK GOOD IN 10 NUMBERS. 11 MR. SLOAN: RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT IF YOU INDIVIDUALIZE THEM -- 13 I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THIS ACTUALLY. THIS IS MORE OF A 14 FOCUSED APPROACH WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. 15 MR. SLOAN: WE HAD URBAN PLANNERS IN THE DATA 16 BASE. THERE'S NO WORK IN THIS PROGRAM FOR PLANNERS. WE 17 ARE WINNOWING IT OUT. SO WE'VE CONTACTED THE THOUSAND -- 18 ALL OF THEM WITH THE BASIC QUESTION, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN 19 PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM? WHAT'S YOUR CAPACITY? 20 WHAT'S YOUR TRACK RECORD? 21 WE HAVE 250 IN THE DATA BASE NOW. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S GOOD. 23 MR. SLOAN: DOWN FROM A THOUSAND. 24 WE RECOMMEND THAT GOING FORWARD THE GOALS FOR 25 LOCAL PARTICIPATION BE SET ON A SLIDING SCALE BASED ON THE JUNE 24, 2010 80 1 AVAILABILITY OF FIRMS AND CURRENT CAPACITY AS WE CAN 2 DETERMINE. THAT WOULD BE ON A PROJECT-BY-PROJECT BASIS 3 AND CRAFT-BY-CRAFT BASIS, SLIDING SCALES DEPENDING ON 4 AVAILABILITY AND CAPACITY. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO US TO SET 5 A GOAL THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNREACHABLE. 6 WE RECOMMEND THAT GOING FORWARD ALL BIDDERS BE 7 PRE-QUALIFIED. AND PART OF THE PRE-QUALIFICATION WILL BE 8 THEIR HISTORY OF COMPLYING WITH LOCAL BUSINESS AND LOCAL 9 HIRING PROGRAMS SO THAT THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE 10 WORKING HERE NOW WHO REFUSE TO COOPERATE WITH US, WOULD 11 NOT QUALIFY BASED ON THE SYSTEM THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING 12 TO THE DISTRICT. 13 NOW WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL TO 14 GET THE PROPER WORDING FOR THAT, BUT BASICALLY CONTRACTORS 15 WHO ARE NON COMPLIANT AND NON COOPERATIVE WOULD NOT BE 16 ABLE TO BID ON YOUR WORK GOING FORWARD. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: EXCUSE ME, IF I MAY, THROUGH THE 18 CHAIR. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: FOR EXAMPLE, HISTORICALLY WHEN 21 WE'VE HAD CONCERNS AND ISSUES WITH THE CONTRACTOR OR 22 SUBCONTRACTORS, WOULD THIS INFORMATION BE PLUGGED INTO 23 YOUR DATA BASE -- 24 MR. SLOAN: YES. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: -- SO THEN PERHAPS WE CONSIDER JUNE 24, 2010 81 1 WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS. 2 MR. SLOAN: CORRECT. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: AND THIS IS WHAT YOU MEAN BY ALSO 4 PRE-QUALIFYING. 5 MR. SLOAN: YEAH, YOU HAVE A PRE-QUALIFICATION 6 PROCESS NOW, BUT IT'S BASED ON A FINANCIAL CAPACITY, 7 BONDING CAPACITY, TRACK RECORD FOR DOING THIS KIND OF 8 WORK. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT NONE FOR COOPERATION. 10 MR. SLOAN: I'M JUST ADDING ANOTHER WAY TO 11 EVALUATE THE FIRMS BASED ON THEIR LACK OF COOPERATION OR 12 COOPERATION. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AND WHAT DOES HRC QUALIFICATIONS 14 FALL INTO IN ALL OF THIS? 15 MR. SLOAN: I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT YOUR QUESTION 16 IS. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. FOR 18 EXAMPLE, SOME OF THEM ARE ON THE HRC LIST. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED ALSO. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: AND THEY ARE CERTIFIED. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: THEY DON'T QUALIFY IF THEY ARE 22 NOT CERTIFIED. THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED -- 23 MR. SLOAN: THEY ARE CERTIFIED AS LOCAL 24 BUSINESSES. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: AS LOCAL BUSINESSES, THAT'S JUNE 24, 2010 82 1 RIGHT. 2 MR. SLOAN: THEY DON'T CERTIFY THEIR CAPACITY OR 3 THEIR HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: SO HRC WOULD NOT HAVE THAT 6 INFORMATION. 7 MR. SLOAN: NO. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. NO. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 10 MR. SLOAN: AND BY THE WAY, WE HAVE RECOMMENDED 11 AND THE STAFF HAS AGREED THAT WE CAN CERTIFY FIRMS TO DO 12 THE WORK AT THE DISTRICT, NOT FOR ANYTHING ELSE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S RIGHT, YES. 14 MR. SLOAN: AND WE CAN RECERTIFY FIRMS. 15 AND THAT WAS MY NEXT POINT THAT WE WOULD BE 16 ALLOWED TO CERTIFY FIRMS, AND WE'VE BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION 17 TO DO THAT. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO HAD A QUESTION. 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOW DO YOU CERTIFY 20 SOMEONE BASED ON THEIR COOPERATIVENESS? 21 I MEAN WE HAVE CONTRACTORS NOW WHO SAY, YES, WE 22 WILL FOLLOW THE GOALS, BUT THEN DON'T WANT TO TALK TO US 23 ABOUT IT. HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT QUALIFICATION? 24 MR. SLOAN: IF THEY REACH THEIR GOALS, THEY ARE 25 FINE. YOU HAVE CONTRACTORS WHO HAVEN'T REACHED THE GOALS JUNE 24, 2010 83 1 AND ARE NOT COOPERATIVE. I'M TALKING THROUGH ALL OF THE 2 SUBCONTRACTORS NOW ON CHINATOWN, AND THAT'S A LARGE 3 NUMBER. 4 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 5 MR. SLOAN: I WOULD SAY THAT 98 PERCENT OF THEM 6 ARE TOTALLY COOPERATIVE. A COUPLE OF THEM WE'RE CLOSE TO 7 HANGING UP THE PHONE ON THEM. AND IF THEY ARE MEANT TO 8 GO, FINE, HANG UP ON THEM. BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T, WE ARE 9 GOING TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE WORK. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE ALSO PASSED A POLICY LAST 11 YEAR, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR MAYBE EVEN THE YEAR 12 BEFORE, THAT DIRECTED THE DISTRICT TO TAKE INTO 13 CONSIDERATION WHEN REVIEWING PROPOSALS BEFORE RECOMMENDING 14 A BID, A PROPOSAL FOR A CONTRACT TO US, AS THE BOARD, THAT 15 PAST COMPLIANCE MEETING OF THE GOALS OF THIS PROGRAM HAVE 16 BEEN, HOW THEY DID AGAINST THE PAST GOALS. 17 MR. SLOAN: AND I AM SAYING YOU TAKE IT A STEP 18 FURTHER AND SAY, IF YOU HAVEN'T COOPERATED, YOU ARE NOT 19 QUALIFIED TO DO OUR WORK. 20 LAST, THE BID DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE NOW HAVE 21 BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY 22 HAVE JUST BEEN INFORMATION PILED ON TOP OF INFORMATION. 23 THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS AGREED WITH US 24 THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE THE BID DOCUMENTS. AND WE ARE 25 GOING TO START WORKING ON THAT PROCESS I THINK ON JUNE 24, 2010 84 1 JULY 3RD. WE HAVE A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT UPDATING 2 BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY CONFUSING NOW. 3 IT'S DIFFICULT IN SOME CASES TO ASCERTAIN IF A 4 CONTRACTOR HAS DONE WHAT HE IS SUPPOSED TO DO OR MADE THE 5 GOOD FAITH EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE NOW, SO WE ARE 6 GOING TO WORK ON THOSE. 7 THOSE ARE THE BASIC THINGS THAT WE SEE THAT ARE 8 NEEDED RIGHT NOW TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM FOR RIGHT NOW. 9 GOING FORWARD THERE WILL BE OTHERS. THIS IS BASED AGAIN 10 ON OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH YOUR PROGRAM MANAGER, CONSTRUCTION 11 MANAGER, STAFF, AND OUR EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE DONE THIS A 12 LONG TIME, FOR MANY AGENCIES. 13 AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL INTRODUCE KITTY CREECH, 14 WHO IS ONE OF MY ASSOCIATES AND BEVERLY POPEK, WHO IS FROM 15 ASIAN INC. THEY WILL ASSIST ME WITH ANSWERS BECAUSE AS 16 YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THEY KNOW MORE THAN I DO. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: I DO HAVE A QUESTION, PRESIDENT 18 MARKS. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE 21 OUTREACH THAT YOU ARE HAVING JULY 17TH. MANY OF THE 22 THINGS THAT YOU HAVE SAID ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO 23 DO. WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE GOALS THAT WAS MORE INCLUSIVE 24 THAT WAS LOCAL AND QUITE -- AND HAVE WOMEN WHO GOT A 25 CHANCE TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK SO WHAT ARE YOU ARE JUNE 24, 2010 85 1 PROPOSING SOUNDS GOOD. 2 SO MY QUESTION IS IF I WERE TO SHOW UP ON 3 JULY 17TH AT THE OUTREACH SESSION, WHAT IS IT THAT I WOULD 4 FIND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES I HAVE BEEN TO BEFORE? 5 HOW WILL YOU DO THE NOTIFICATION? WHAT IS IT THAT WILL BE 6 SAID AND DONE WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP WHO ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS 7 AND WHO HAVE NOT HAD SUCCESS? AND THEY WILL SHOW THAT 8 THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND THEY ARE QUALIFIED, BUT JUST 9 HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET JOBS, ESPECIALLY AT CITY COLLEGE. 10 SO WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS OUTREACH ON 11 JULY 17TH? 12 MR. SLOAN: FIRST OF ALL, I WAS CORRECTED BY 13 BOSSES. IT'S JULY 16TH. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: NOT SATURDAY. 15 MR. SLOAN: RIGHT. IT'S FRIDAY, JULY 16TH. AND 16 IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 17 A COUPLE OF THINGS WILL BE DIFFERENT. WE WILL 18 DO THE NORMAL THING. SOMEONE FROM THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE 19 WILL BE THERE TO GIVE THE COMMITMENT OF THE DISTRICT. WE 20 WILL EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM. WE WILL HAVE A CONSTRUCTION 21 MANAGER THERE TO EXPLAIN THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE PROGRAM. 22 BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE 23 ARE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS THERE. THERE 24 MAY BE SOME SUBCONTRACTORS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WORK THEY 25 HAVE AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES. AND WE ARE GOING TO JUNE 24, 2010 86 1 TRY TO MATCH THEM THAT DAY. 2 THE DIFFERENCE IS UNDER THE NORMAL PROCESS, THEY 3 WOULD HAVE TO BID ON THE WORK. THIS IS WORK THAT CAN BE 4 NEGOTIATED. AND THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND WE ARE 5 HOPING THAT SOME CONTRACTORS ARE GOING TO LEAVE THERE WITH 6 A COMMITMENT FOR WORK. 7 AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT 8 NORMALLY THOUGHT OF IN THIS PROCESS. PEOPLE THINK OF THE 9 EARTH MOVING EQUIPMENT AND THE BIG PARTS OF THE JOB. BUT 10 EVERY ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS WHO WORKS ON THESE JOBS HAVE 11 TO BUY TOILET PAPER FROM SOMEBODY. THEY HAVE TO BUY 12 LIGHTBULBS. THEY HAVE TO BUY GASOLINE. THEY MAY HAVE TO 13 BUY COMPUTERS. WE ARE SAYING ANYTHING THAT ANYTHING YOU 14 ARE GOING TO BUY IN THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT, WE CAN 15 MATCH WITH A LOCAL FIRM THAT CAN PROVIDE THAT. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: JUST ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION, IT 17 HAS TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTORS THAT I KNOW THAT ARE 18 WORKING ON PROJECTS LIKE THE CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS. 19 I GUESS ALL OF THE WORK IS FINISHED AT THE JOINT-USE 20 FACILITY. 21 MR. SLOAN: YES, FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: CAN YOU TELL ME SOME OF THE 23 SPECIFIC PROJECTS? AND COULD YOU NAME SOME OF THE 24 CONTRACTORS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WILL BE THERE 25 TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE OUTREACH JUNE 24, 2010 87 1 PORTION? 2 MR. SLOAN: WE HAVE -- WE ARE FOCUSSING ON THE 3 CHINATOWN PROJECT BY THE WAY. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 5 MR. SLOAN: WE HAVE A LIST OF HOW MANY 6 SUBCONTRACTORS -- MORE THAN 100 THAT ARE WORKING ON THAT 7 JOB THAT WE'VE ALREADY CONTACTED TO HAVE THEM GIVE US 8 THEIR LIST OF AVAILABLE WORK. AND THEY WILL COME AND TALK 9 ABOUT IT AT THE MEETING. WE'VE SENT A NOTICE TO EVERY 10 SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS IN OUR DATA BASE INVITING THEM TO 11 COME. AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN RESPONSES FROM 50. BUT WE 12 ARE WORKING WITH SWINERTON AND BOVIS TO GET ALL OF THE 13 MAJOR SUBCONTRACTORS THERE. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. I AM REALLY GOING TO TRY 15 TO MAKE THIS OUTREACH MEETING. 16 MR. SLOAN: I HOPE YOU DO. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 19 MR. SLOAN: JULY 16TH. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: I JUST WANT TO SAY -- IT'S NOT A 22 QUESTION ACTUALLY -- THAT I'M VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU ARE 23 PLANNING TO DO IN TERMS OF UNLISTING CONTRACTORS SO 24 THAT -- YOU MENTIONED THE CONTRACTORS OF THE JOBS AND THAT 25 YOU DON'T HAVE SUBCONTRACTORS HIRING OTHER CONTRACTORS AND JUNE 24, 2010 88 1 SO FORTH. AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW -- 2 MR. SLOAN: RIGHT. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: -- WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHO IS 4 BEING HIRED, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE FITTING INTO WHAT WE 5 WANT TO HAPPEN. SO BASICALLY, YOU ARE THIN SLICING THIS 6 AND IT'S A LASER FOCUS EXACTLY WHERE OUR CONCERNS HAVE 7 BEEN IN TERMS OF WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE 8 SUBCONTRACTORS ARE HIRING THE KINDS OF CONTRACTORS THAT 9 THE DISTRICT NEEDS OR WANTS IN TERMS OF DIVERSITY OR 10 WHATEVER. 11 SO BY THIN SLICING IT THE WAY YOU ARE DOING, I 12 THINK IT IS VERY EXCITING UNLISTED. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE 13 NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE, AND SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. 14 I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO A LOT OF THESE 15 PRESENTATIONS, AND WE HAVE SOME VERY EXCITING I THINK 16 STEPS HERE -- 17 MR. SLOAN: THANK YOU. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THAT HOPEFULLY WILL CURE A LOT 19 OF ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD AND CONCERNS, SO THANK YOU. 20 MR. SLOAN: AND I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT 21 PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO HEAR, SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO HEAR, 22 BUT I AM GOING TO SAY IT ANYWAY. THERE ARE NOT MANY SMALL 23 LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BID THESE JOBS 24 AT THE FIRST TIER SUBCONTRACTOR LEVEL -- 25 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. WE KNOW THAT. JUNE 24, 2010 89 1 MR. SLOAN: -- FOR A LOT OF REASONS. FINANCING, 2 BONDING -- 3 TRUSTEE WONG: BONDING IS A MAJOR ISSUE. 4 MR. SLOAN: THE BONDING IS A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE 5 THE BONDING IS BASED ON THE SIZE OF A PROJECT AND THE 6 BONDING COMPANIES CHARGE A PERCENTAGE. IF YOU ARE BOVIS, 7 MAYBE THEY CHARGE YOU ONE-HALF OF 1 PERCENT FOR THE COST 8 OF CONSTRUCTION. IF YOU ARE JAKE SLOAN, IT'S 2 PERCENT, 9 YOUR HOUSE, YOUR WIFE, AND YOUR FIRST BORN. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: I KNOW. I'VE HEARD IT. WE'VE 11 HEARD IT MANY, MANY TIMES. 12 MR. SLOAN: SO YOU CAN'T BE COMPETITIVE ON THE 13 BID. YOU CAN'T BUY MATERIALS FOR THE SAME PRICE THAT 14 BOVIS CAN, SO THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE DIRECTLY 15 RELATED TO THE BUSINESS. IT'S VERY HARD FOR LOCAL SMALL 16 BUSINESSES TO OVERCOME. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN 18 HEARING FOR YEARS ACTUALLY. THAT'S WHERE WE EXPLORE 19 BREAKING UP PROJECTS IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 20 MR. SLOAN: SO WE LOOK AT THIS AS A LOCAL 21 CAPACITY BUILDING PROGRAM. WE FIND THE CONTRACTORS. WE 22 ASSESS WHAT THEIR CAPABILITY IS AND TRY TO GET BOVIS AND 23 MAJOR SUBS TO WORK WITH THEM TO BUILD THE CAPACITY. IT 24 DOES NO GOOD TO GIVE A SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS A $300,000 JOB 25 WHEN THEY CAN ONLY DO A -- JUNE 24, 2010 90 1 TRUSTEE WONG: THIS IS ALSO VERY NOVEL OF BOVIS. 2 I DON'T THINK BOVIS IS USED TO THIS KIND OF -- HOW SHOULD 3 I SAY -- MICROSCOPIC KIND OF -- 4 MR. SLOAN: I DON'T THINK SO EITHER. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: THEY ARE NOT. AND THEY ARE 6 WORKING FOR CITY COLLEGE, A COMMUNITY COLLEGE, A CITY THAT 7 NEEDS TO PARTICIPATE FULLY IN THE INSTITUTIONS. 8 MR. SLOAN: BUT I WANT TO REPEAT -- 9 TRUSTEE WONG: SO IT'S GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR 10 BOVIS. 11 MR. SLOAN: IS DOES NO GOOD TO GET A SMALL LOCAL 12 CONTRACTOR WHO IS CAPABLE OF DOING A $50,000 JOB A 13 HALF-MILLION DOLLAR JOB BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CAUSE 14 PROBLEMS FOR THAT CONTRACTOR, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR OR 15 THE MAJOR SUB, AND THE DISTRICT. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AND THE BONDING. THANK YOU. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S VERY EXCITING. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: THIS IS REALLY GOOD. I'M GLAD 20 TO HAVE A REPORT FROM YOU. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: THANK YOU. IT'S ONE OF THE BEST 22 REPORTS I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: I KNOW WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO 24 MUCH SUCCESS IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 25 MR. SLOAN: WE SHOULD BE BACK IN ABOUT THREE JUNE 24, 2010 91 1 MONTHS. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: GREAT. THANK YOU. 3 MR. SLOAN: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE HAVE A REPORT FROM 5 CONSTITUENT GROUPS. 6 ACADEMIC SENATE, KAREN SAGINOR FOR HER FIRST 7 REPORT. 8 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KAREN 9 SAGINOR, PRESIDENT OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE. I AM VERY 10 HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, PRESIDENT MARKS, BOARD OF 11 TRUSTEES. 12 I WILL KEEP MY REMARKS SHORT. YOU HAVE A VERY 13 LONG AGENDA. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT HAPPENING IN THE 14 SUMMER. I AM NEW AT MY JOB. I AM BUSY LEARNING IT. I AM 15 PARTICULAR AT LEARNING NOT ONLY WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN OUR 16 LOCAL SENATE, BUT AT THE STATE SENATE LEVEL. I AM 17 PARTICULARLY LOOKING TO IMPROVE MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW 18 THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT THE ACADEMIC STATE LEVEL EFFECT. I 19 WILL BE WORKING WITH VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO ON THAT OVER 20 THE SUMMER, SO I WILL BE READY FOR THE FALL. 21 AND I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD SOME OF MY TIME TO 22 PRESIDENT MESSER OF THE AFT 2121 IF I MAY. 23 (TRUSTEE JACKSON ARRIVES AT THE MEETING.) 24 MS. MESSER: THANK YOU, KAREN. MEMBERS OF THE 25 BOARD, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COLLEGE JUNE 24, 2010 92 1 COMMUNITY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T ALREADY KNOW ME, MY 2 NAME IS ALISA MESSER. AND I AM THE NEWLY-ELECTED 3 PRESIDENT OF AFT 2121. 4 AS YOU NO DOUBT KNOW, NEGOTIATIONS WHICH WE ARE 5 JUST COMPLETING, HAVE BEEN VERY CHALLENGING. WE ALL 6 RECOGNIZE HOW DIFFICULT THE COLLEGE'S FINANCIAL PICTURE 7 IS, AND AFT 2121 HAS BEEN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE 8 DISTRICT ON SACRIFICES BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY 9 OF THE SITUATION AND BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO MITIGATE THE 10 IMPACT ON OUR MEMBERS. 11 OUR GOAL WAS TO AVOID THE LOSS OF JOBS AND 12 ENSURE THAT ANY CONCESSIONS WERE DISTRIBUTED MORE 13 EQUITABLY AMONG OUR MEMBERSHIP. 14 AS YOU KNOW, THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT WE HAVE 15 REACHED IS CONTINGENT ON ALL SECTORS OF THE COLLEGE 16 CONTRIBUTING AND IS SUBJECT TO RATIFICATION BY THE FACULTY 17 IN THE FALL. HAVING JUST REACHED AGREEMENT ON THE 18 LANGUAGE, WE WILL BE COMMUNICATING WITH MEMBERS OF OUR 19 UNIT ABOUT ITS DETAILS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. 20 I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THESE SACRIFICES AND 21 EMPLOYEE GIVE BACKS ARE NOT THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM 22 THAT WE ARE FACING. ULTIMATELY, EMPLOYEES MUST NOT PAY 23 THE PRICE FOR THE LEGISLATURE'S INABILITY TO ACT ON 24 REVENUES. 25 AND AS WE NO DOUBT AGREE, PUBLIC EDUCATION AND JUNE 24, 2010 93 1 PUBLIC SERVICES BENEFIT EVERYONE IN THE STATE. SO WE MUST 2 FIND AND FIGHT FOR REVENUES IN OTHER AREAS. 3 IN THAT LIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION TWO UP 4 COMING OPPORTUNITIES WE SEE TO ADDRESS THAT LARGER NEED 5 AND THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS WE ARE FACING ON A LOCAL AND 6 ON A STATE LEVEL. 7 AS YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD FROM US, WE ARE 8 EXTREMELY INTERESTED IN PURSUING A PARCEL TAX AT LEAST AS 9 A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION TO THE COLLEGE'S BUDGET WOES. WE 10 PREFER A PROGRESSIVE TAX, YET IT IS ALSO A PARAMOUNT 11 IMPORTANCE THAT WE PUT FORWARD A PROPOSAL THAT HAS THE 12 BEST CHANCE OF PASSING AND WILL PROVIDE IMMEDIATE RELIEF 13 IF WE ARE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE CRISIS. A RELATIVELY 14 SMALL TAX OF A SHORT DURATION THIS NOVEMBER APPEARS TO BE 15 THE BEST WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 16 AFT 2121 BELIEVES IT IS CRITICAL THAT THE BOARD 17 AND THE UNIONS WORK WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO LABOR COUNCIL 18 TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. 19 THE SECOND OPPORTUNITY IS PART OF A LONGER TERM 20 STATEWIDE SOLUTION. WE JUST LEARNED THIS AFTERNOON THAT 21 THE MAJORITY BUDGET INITIATIVE HAS QUALIFIED FOR THE 22 NOVEMBER BALLOT STATEWIDE. THIS INITIATIVE A 23 COLLABORATION OF THE CALIFORNIA FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, 24 CFCA, ASKED ME, THE FIREFIGHTERS, THE CALIFORNIA NURSES 25 ASSOCIATION, AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WOULD LINE JUNE 24, 2010 94 1 CALIFORNIA UP WITH 47 OTHER STATES IN THE NATION WHO 2 REQUIRE A SIMPLE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY TO PASS THE STATE 3 BUDGET. NOT ONLY WOULD THIS ENABLE A BUDGET TO BE 4 FINISHED ON TIME, AND WE KNOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE THAT COULD 5 MAKE FOR CITY COLLEGE, IT WOULD ALSO PREVENT THE BUDGET 6 PROCESS FROM BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY A MINORITY OF 7 LEGISLATURES WHO ARE DOING THE BIDDING OF CORPORATE 8 SPECIAL INTERESTS. 9 YOU WILL BE HEARING MORE FROM US ABOUT HOW YOU 10 CAN JOIN THE CAMPAIGN TO PASS THE MAJORITY INITIATIVE 11 SOON. THANK YOU. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON -- I JUST WANT 14 TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TRUSTEE JACKSON 15 IS HERE. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I HAVE A QUESTION. 17 SO MY QUESTION IS THERE IS ON -- IN TERMS OF 18 THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF LABOR COUNCIL IS ALSO DOING SEVERAL 19 OTHER REVENUE MEASURES -- 20 MS. MESSER: YES. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- ESPECIALLY THE HOTEL TAX. 22 AND THAT THEY ARE IN THE -- 2011 IS A PUSH WITH SF UNIFIED 23 AND THE PARKS AND REC TO HAVE A LONGER LASTING MORE ROBUST 24 PARCEL TAX. AND SO I WANT TO GAGE 2121'S POSSIBLE SUPPORT 25 OF PUSHING BACK OUR PARCEL TAX FOR THIS NOVEMBER AND JUNE 24, 2010 95 1 JOINING IN WITH 2011 PARCEL TAX WHERE THERE WOULD PROBABLY 2 BE MUCH MORE ROBUST SUPPORT FOR THAT MEASURE. AND WE'D 3 HAVE A LARGER COALITION TO BUILD THAT FROM CONSIDERING THE 4 FACT THAT THE ONLY PARCEL TAX THAT BEAT THE TWO-THIRDS 5 THRESHOLD WAS FOUR YEARS AND HAD THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY 6 IN TERMS OF LONG-TERM SYSTEMIC, YOU KNOW, HELP. 7 WHAT ARE YOUR GUYS THOUGHTS ON THAT? 8 MS. MESSER: WELL, AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE A 9 LIMITED AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU 10 ARE TALKING ABOUT. WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS. AND WE 11 HAVE SOME MEETINGS SET UP, HOPEFULLY, FOR NEXT WEEK TO 12 LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YES. 14 MS. MESSER: BUT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE 15 EFFECT WOULD BE ABOUT WAITING LONGER. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 17 MS. MESSER: SO WE HAVE CONCERN IN THAT SENSE 18 AND ALSO ABOUT THE POLLING NUMBERS. SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT 19 IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC IF EVERYONE COULD GO OUT TOGETHER 20 AND IT WERE LONGER AND MORE MONEY, BUT WE ALSO AREN'T SURE 21 WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD HAVE ANY SUCCESS, AND SO WE NEED 22 TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE PICTURE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, BECAUSE MY GENERAL 24 CONCERN IS BECAUSE IF WE LOSE THIS YEAR, I THINK THAT 25 WOULD IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO JOIN THAT COALITION 2011. AND JUNE 24, 2010 96 1 THAT'S MY FIRST FEAR. 2 MY SECOND FEAR IS IF WE WENT, THAT ALSO 3 JEOPARDIZES OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO JOIN IN FOR THE COALITION 4 2011. WIN OR LOSE I THINK WE HAVE ONE SHOT. AND I WOULD 5 URGE US TO CONTINUE TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES THAT 6 PROVIDE A LONG-TERM FINANCIAL FIX TO OUR BUDGET. 7 MS. MESSER: AND AS I SAID, I THINK THE 8 LONG-TERM SOLUTION IS A LOT MORE THAN A PARCEL TAX. BUT 9 NOVEMBER DOES LOOK LIKE OUR BEST OPTION. THAT'S OUR 10 IMPRESSION, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. THANK YOU. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT MARKS. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO MAKE A 15 BRIEF COMMENT AND JUST WELCOME PRESIDENT SAGINOR AND 16 PRESIDENT MESSER. WE ARE REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU WERE 17 ELECTED, AND THE BOARD LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING VERY 18 CLOSELY WITH THE BOTH OF YOU. 19 MS. MESSER: THANK YOU. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STUDENT 21 LEADERS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT. I AM NOT CERTAIN WHICH OF 22 THESE -- ACTUALLY, COULD YOU JUST STAND UP SO I CAN FIND 23 OUT HOW MANY OF YOU ARE ACTUALLY HERE. 24 ARE YOU IT? 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: THESE ARE NEWLY ELECTED -- JUNE 24, 2010 97 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: AT OUR MEETING LAST MONTH I 2 THINK OR MAYBE THE MONTH BEFORE, WE HAD PEOPLE QUESTIONING 3 WHY WE HEAR FROM JUST THE ELECTED STUDENT LEADERS AT THE 4 OCEAN CAMPUS AND SUGGESTED THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD BE -- OR 5 NOT PERHAPS, BUT THAT WE SHOULD BE INCLUDING 6 REPRESENTATIVES FROM OTHER CAMPUSES. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: TRUSTEE MARKS, IF I MAY, 9 I BELIEVE PRESENT IN OUR AUDIENCE, WE HAVE A 10 REPRESENTATIVE FROM DOWNTOWN CAMPUS, AND ALSO A 11 REPRESENTATIVE FOR EVANS AND SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, AS WELL AS 12 JOHN ADAMS, AND MISSION CAMPUS, AND OCEAN CAMPUS. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE ARE KIND OF DOING THIS ON 14 THE FLY HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO MAKE 15 THIS HAPPEN SO THAT WE GIVE YOU THE TIME THAT YOU NEED, 16 BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TIME IT IS GOING TO TAKE. 17 MS. GELARDI: THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 19 MS. GELARDI: THANK YOU. IT'S GREAT IDEA. 20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 21 REAL QUICK ON -- 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: INTRODUCE YOURSELF THOUGH. 23 MS. GELARDI: OH, I'M SO SORRY. KATIE GELARDI, 24 FROM THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IF YOU MAY, YOUR POSITION JUNE 24, 2010 98 1 AS WELL, PLEASE STATE THAT. 2 MS. GELARDI: VICE PRESIDENT, RETIRED. 3 I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU. IT'S VERY EXCITING 4 TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA THE RESOLUTIONS 5 HONORING THE OUTSTANDING PRESIDENTS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT 6 STUDENT COUNCILS. AND THE OTHER ISSUES CAN WAIT. THANK 7 YOU. HAVE A GREAT SUMMER. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. SO MAYBE THE REST OF -- 9 IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD ALL JUST LINE 10 UP AND COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR POSITION 11 AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO GIVE EVERYBODY TWO MINUTES. 12 MR. MELENDEZ: OKAY, MY NAME IS BRIAN MELENDEZ. 13 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR 14 INVITING ME IN THIS IMPORTANT MEETING TO DISCUSS AND FIND 15 SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. 16 AS YOU KNOW, DON, THE STUDENTS FROM CITY COLLEGE 17 OF SAN FRANCISCO ARE FACING MANY, MANY, DIFFICULTIES TO 18 KEEP THIS TIMING IN THIS ECONOMIC TIME. WE, AS THE 19 LEADERS, WE HAVE TO WORK VERY HARD TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO 20 THAT PROMISE TO GIVE THEM A BETTER FUTURE. 21 STUDENT COUNCIL OF MISSION CAMPUS IS WORKING 22 VERY HARD TO DEFEND OUR EDUCATION. THIS YEAR WE HAVE 23 ORGANIZED MANY MARCHES TO PROTEST FOR THE VALUE COST TO 24 OUR EDUCATION. WE HELP THE STUDENTS. WE, THE STUDENTS, 25 HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT WE CARE ABOUT OUR EDUCATION AND WE JUNE 24, 2010 99 1 ARE GOING TO DEFEND IT. THIS YEAR WE HAVE MEANT HOW TO 2 VALUE OUR EDUCATIONAL NEEDS FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR ALL 3 THE STUDENTS IN OUR COUNTRY. 4 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STUDENT TRUSTEE, THE 5 CHANCELLOR ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE 6 STUDENTS CONCERNS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART IN CITY COLLEGE 7 BECAUSE WE REPRESENT ALL THE STUDENTS. WE NEED TO 8 ELIMINATE THE GAP THAT THERE IS BETWEEN US AND WORK 9 TOGETHER TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS FOR THE STUDENTS. THANK 10 YOU. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 12 MS. PASTOR: GOOD NIGHT. MY NAME IS YAHAIRA 13 PASTOR. AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT COUNCIL AT 14 JOHN ADAMS. 15 AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU FOR 16 THIS RESOLUTION. WORKING FOR CITY COLLEGE FOR JOHN ADAMS 17 IS BEING GLAD TO ME. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITIES IN 18 THE WHOLE SEMESTER. I WORK IN THE SPRING IN 2009 AND 19 SPRING 2010. 20 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN MARCH TO GO TO 21 SACRAMENTO TO TRY TO FIGHT FOR OUR EDUCATION. BUT WE 22 STILL DO NOT HAVE SUMMER CLASS. WE ARE HOPING THAT NEXT 23 YEAR WE CAN HAVE OUR SUMMER CLASS. THANK YOU. 24 MS. KIM: MY NAME IS AI KIM. AND I'M A NEW 25 SENATOR FROM OCEAN CAMPUS. I AM HERE TO MAKE A QUICK JUNE 24, 2010 100 1 REPORT ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT EVANS CAMPUS INGRID 2 WYNN. 3 AT EVANS CAMPUS, WE HAVE A PROGRAM WHICH IS FOR 4 STUDENT SAFETY. AND EVANS CAMPUS, INGRID HAD MET WITH 5 CAPTAIN OF THE BAYVIEW POLICE STATION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. 6 THANK YOU. 7 MS. WEINBERG: GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE 8 BOARD AND FRIENDS. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH WEINBERG, AND I 9 AM THE NEWLY-ELECTED A.S. COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR THE OCEAN 10 CAMPUS. 11 I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PRESENT A BRIEF OUTLINE OF 12 HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME OF MY GOALS WORKING WITH A.S. COUNCIL 13 FOR THE YEAR OF 2010-2011. 14 ONE, OUTREACH TO ALL STUDENTS WITH AN OPEN DOOR 15 POLICY TO ENCOURAGE STUDENT PARTICIPATION AND ENGAGEMENT. 16 TWO, TO SUPPORT AND IMPLEMENT PRACTICES ON 17 CAMPUS THAT OFFER STUDENTS EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES, ACCESS AND 18 EDUCATION WITH RESPECT TO WHO THEY ARE AS INDIVIDUALS. 19 THIS INCLUDES IMPROVING COUNSELING SERVICES AND STUDENT 20 SERVICES WITH AN EMPHASIS ON TRAINING AND COMMUNICATION. 21 THREE, TO CREATE UNITY AND COHESION BETWEEN THE 22 CCSF CAMPUSES AND COUNCILS AND TO SET COMMON GOALS. 23 FOUR, TO INCREASE STUDENT PARTICIPATION IN 24 SHARED GOVERNANCE. 25 FIVE, TO INVOLVE STUDENTS AND ENHANCE LEADERSHIP JUNE 24, 2010 101 1 TRAINING AND OPPORTUNITIES ON CAMPUS. 2 SIX, TO UTILIZE THE MULTICULTURAL RESOURCE 3 CENTER AND THE STUDENT LOUNGE IN THE NEW BUILDING AND THE 4 MULTI-USE BUILDING AS A HUB FOR STUDENT ACTIVITY. 5 SEVEN, TO INTRODUCE MULTIPLE CULTURAL MODELS AND 6 PROMOTE INCLUSION, TOLERANCE, AND RESPECT FOR OUR DIVERSE 7 POPULATIONS ON THE CCSF CAMPUS. 8 EIGHT, TO PROMOTE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY 9 AND AWARENESS, AND IMPLEMENT SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES WITHIN 10 THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS. 11 NINE, TO SEEK NEW REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE 12 ASSOCIATED STUDENTS AND TO PRACTICE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. 13 TEN, TO SUPPORT A.S. PROGRAMS AND IMPROVE THE 14 QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL STUDENTS. 15 I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE OPEN 16 COLLEGE, THE SECOND OPEN COLLEGE IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE ON 17 JULY 14TH, WHICH IS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ABOUT OPEN 18 COLLEGE IS, IT WAS AN EFFORT OF STUDENT ACTIVISM AND 19 SUPPORTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE FREE CLASSES 20 FOR STUDENTS THREE DAYS DURING THE SUMMER. THE FIRST ONE 21 HAPPENED -- 22 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 23 -- LAST MONTH AND -- 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: FINISH. 25 MS. WEINBERG: SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW JUNE 24, 2010 102 1 ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR INVITING 2 US TO COME TONIGHT. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 4 SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESOLUTIONS HONORING 5 OUTGOING LEADERS OF DIFFERENT CAMPUSES. SO WHAT I WOULD 6 LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THEM ALL AS A GROUP. SOME OF YOU ARE 7 HERE. TAKE THEM ALL AS A GROUP AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON 8 THEM. 9 IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE WHO NEEDS TO SPEAK? 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO, REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD ASKED 11 IF THE LADY WAS HERE WHO HAD THAT FIRST CARD AND SHE 12 WASN'T HERE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: LOUISE WILLIAMS. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK SHE IS 15 HERE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: LOUISE WILLIAMS. 17 MS. WILLIAMS: HERE I AM. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: COME ON UP. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: SHE WAS THROWN OFF BECAUSE WE 20 DIDN'T START AT THE EXACT TIME. 21 MS. WILLIAMS: HOW ARE YOU DOING? 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: HI. 23 MS. WILLIAMS: MY NAME IS LOUISE WILLIAMS AND 24 SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CITY COLLEGE, I DID GO TO CITY 25 COLLEGE ON EVANS STREET AND PASSED A BLUEPRINT READING JUNE 24, 2010 103 1 CLASS. AND I WENT ON OCEAN AND PASSED A SEMESTER OF 2 DRAFTING. AND I AM WAITING FOR IT TO START UP AGAIN. 3 I AM AN OUT OF WORK CARPENTER STILL LOOKING FOR 4 WORK. AND I AM HAVING A PROBLEM FINDING WORK. WHAT I AM 5 FINDING OUT IS THAT I DIDN'T MAKE SOME OF MY FRIENDS, 6 MAYBE SOME OF THEIR ENEMIES. AND IT'S HINDERING ME FROM 7 FINDING WORK. AND I'M FINDING OUT THAT A LADY NAME JUDY 8 SORROW (PHONETIC) AND HER PARTNER KIM NIM (PHONETIC) HAVE 9 BEEN TRYING TO HINDER ME FROM FINDING WORK. EVERY TIME I 10 FIND A JOB THAT'S ABOUT TO HIRE ME, THEY NEED CITY BUILD 11 TO SIGN OFF ON IT. AND THEY WON'T SIGN OFF ON IT. AND 12 THEY TELL THEM BAD THINGS ABOUT ME. 13 NOW IF I'M A CARPENTER WOMAN STEADILY GETTING 14 CERTIFICATES AND IMPROVING MYSELF, I DON'T SEE WHAT THE 15 PROBLEM IS WHEN IT'S NOT MY WORK ETHICS. I DON'T KNOW 16 WHAT IS. WHY AM I OBTAINING THESE ENEMIES? 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION? 18 WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO GO TO HELP YOU -- 19 MS. WILLIAMS: I AM COMING TO YOU GUYS. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: I AM TALKING JUST IN GENERAL. 21 WHO ARE YOU TRYING -- WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO GO TO GET 22 HELP TO GET YOU WORK AND PASS THE DIFFICULTIES YOU ARE 23 HAVING? 24 MS. WILLIAMS: CITY BUILD, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY 25 ARE TAKING OVER THE VAST MAJORITY OF ALL THE WORK IN SAN JUNE 24, 2010 104 1 FRANCISCO. AND I NEED CITY BUILD TO -- I DON'T KNOW HOW 2 TO GO ABOUT STOPPING JUDY FROM BAD MOUTHING ME AND KIM NIM 3 FROM BAD MOUTHING ME. I AM A CERTIFIED BRIDGE BUILDER, 4 AND I HAVE GOT MY PAPERWORK RIGHT HERE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I JUST -- I DON'T MEAN YOU 6 ANY DISRESPECT. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN 7 HELP YOU WITH YOUR SPECIFIC PROBLEM. 8 COULD I ASK YOU TO TALK TO LINDA SHAW OR GOHAR 9 MOMJIAN, TALK TO THEM SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE ISSUES YOU 10 ARE HAVING, AND THEY CAN HELP YOU TO FIX THESE THINGS. 11 MS. WILLIAMS: THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE 13 THAN TALKING TO US. 14 MS. WILLIAMS: OH, OKAY. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CAN GET 16 IT DONE. 17 MS. WILLIAMS: YES, I NEED THEIR HELP THEN. 18 THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK. 20 SO IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S16, S17, S18, 21 S19, S20, S21, S22, AND S23, UNLESS YOU DON'T WANT TO 22 DO -- IS THAT RIGHT? 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IF SOMEONE CAN MOVE ALL OF 25 THOSE. JUNE 24, 2010 105 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO MOVED. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG; 5 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: WAIT. I THINK THE STUDENT 7 TRUSTEE SHOULD MOVE IT. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: HE DID. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I DID. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: ALL RIGHT. I THOUGHT YOU HEARD 11 ME. OKAY. 12 SO DID YOU WANT TO -- WHY DON'T YOU SAY 13 SOMETHING ABOUT -- NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT EACH PERSON, BUT 14 WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IN TERMS OF RECOGNIZING 15 PEOPLE. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: THEY ARE INDIVIDUAL 18 RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE COMMENDING PEOPLE FOR THEIR SERVICE 19 AND THEIR LEADERSHIP AS STUDENT LEADERS. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: OKAY, SO THE RESOLUTIONS 21 S16-S23 ARE RESOLUTIONS AGENDIZED TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR 22 ALL OF THE PRESIDENTS OF THE VARIOUS CAMPUSES THAT WE HAVE 23 THAT'S ACTIVE FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING SERVICE, FOR THEIR 24 ORGANIZING EFFORT AT THEIR RESPECTIVE CAMPUSES AND HELPING 25 TO EMPOWER STUDENTS AND GIVING THEM A VOICE. JUNE 24, 2010 106 1 MANY OF THEM HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB AND HAVE 2 WORKED FOR ALL OF THE NEEDS OF REPRESENTING STUDENTS. AND 3 SOME OF THEM IN FACT ARE SO -- WE'LL PROBABLY RETAIN THEIR 4 SEAT AND KEEP DOING THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING. 5 AND SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO FURTHER AND 6 THANK THEM. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE 8 HERE -- I KNOW THAT MS. PASTOR -- I KNOW YOU ARE HERE AND 9 WE ALSO HAVE I THINK BRIAN -- 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: AND BRIAN, YES. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: BRIAN MELENDEZ, OKAY. 12 I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE RECOGNIZED 13 YOU AGAIN, THAT YOU ARE HERE AND TO THANK YOU FOR THE 14 REALLY GOOD WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING. 15 AND AS YOU SAID, MR. MELENDEZ, YOU ARE HERE 16 REPRESENTING ALL THE STUDENTS, ALL OF YOU ARE AND HAVING 17 YOU HERE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. AND ALSO WHAT YOU SAID 18 ABOUT TRYING TO CONNECT US. AND I THINK IT IS JUST THE 19 RIGHT THING TO DO. 20 AND SO WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY -- 21 MR. MELENDEZ: THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY TO TRY TO 22 DO THE THINGS VERY WELL. WHEN I CAME HERE, I SAW WHEN I 23 CAME HERE, I WAS -- I DIDN'T SPEAK ANY WORDS IN ENGLISH. 24 I WAS A FARM WORKER. SO WHEN I INTERVIEWED, I SAW THAT 25 WONDERFUL CITY COLLEGE WE HAVE HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO. I JUNE 24, 2010 107 1 SAW THE MANY OPPORTUNITIES I HAVE TO GROW AS A PERSON. I 2 THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THE THING IS I ALWAYS TRY. 3 THE LEADERS, THEY HAVE TO TRY TO CONNECT WITH 4 THE STUDENTS BECAUSE NOW A NEW LEADERSHIP HAS COME TO THE 5 CITY COLLEGE ALL THE STUDENTS, ALL THE STUDENT COUNCIL. I 6 AM WORKING VERY HARD. 7 THANK YOU TO JEFFREY TO SUPPORT US. I REALLY, 8 REALLY BELIEVE IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES WE ARE GOING TO DO 9 GOOD DECISIONS. 10 I SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHANCELLOR. I SAW HIM. 11 I SAW EVERYBODY. WE REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH THE 12 STUDENTS. NOW IT'S TIME TO SAY TO OUR COUNSELOR, TO OUR 13 PARENTS, MY PARENTS DIDN'T BELIEVE IN ME. THEY SAID, 14 BRIAN, YOU AREN'T A HARD WORKER. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU 15 CAN'T. IT IS VERY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S NOT 16 TRUE. 17 NOW I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART, I TELL YOU 18 PLEASE NOW IT'S TIME TO TAKE A BETTER DECISION. NOW IS 19 THE TIME TO DEFEND OUR FUTURE. THANKS EVERYBODY. THANKS 20 FOR RECOGNIZING ME. I AM SO PROUD. I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M 21 GOING TO BE HERE TALKING TO YOU TWO YEARS AGO, BUT I'M 22 HERE. I AM GOING TO TRY IN ENGLISH. I AM GOING TO LEARN 23 IT VERY WELL. THAT'S IN MY GOAL AND GO TO A UNIVERSITY 24 AND HELP ALL THE STUDENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT IS 25 ALL I WANT TO SAY. JUNE 24, 2010 108 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M NOT CERTAIN ANYBODY CAN 2 SAY ANYTHING BETTER THAN THAT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3 SO LET US VOTE ON RESOLUTIONS S16-S23 AS A 4 GROUP. THEY'VE BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. I'M NOT CERTAIN 5 WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE. 6 SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES OR NO. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO -- 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. NO. NO. THIS SHOULD BE, 11 "AYE." 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S16-S23, 14 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 15 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 23 CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK 24 YOU ARE DOING. THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE BEING RECOGNIZED 25 TONIGHT AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE MAYBE JUST STARTING JUNE 24, 2010 109 1 TO DO THE WORK. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. 2 NOW, ATTILA GABOR. 3 MR. GABOR: THANK YOU, TRUSTEES, CHANCELLOR, 4 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. 5 OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE 6 CONSTITUTE GROUP REPORT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGE FOR ME 7 WAS THAT I AM NO LONGER THE PERSON WITH A FOREIGN ACCENT 8 UP HERE. 9 SO CLASSIFIED SENATE, THE CLASSIFIED IS HAVING, 10 AS YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY TENSE TIME FOR US. THE TENTATIVE 11 AGREEMENT IS COMING OUR WAY. WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING 12 TO HAPPEN AT THIS POINT. MANY OF OUR CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES 13 ARE TRYING TO -- I AM ONE OF THEM -- BUT WE ARE TRYING TO 14 TAKE OFF AS MUCH SINCE THERE IS NO SUMMER SCHOOL -- TAKE 15 OFF AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE DISTRICT BUY AS 16 WE TAKE OUT THE VACATION, THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT 17 THE DISTRICT DOES NOT NEED TO KEEP IN THIS EARTH SO THIS 18 IS ONE OF THE WAY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HELP. 19 BUT IT IS OBVIOUS BECAUSE OF THAT, A LARGE 20 NUMBER OF CLASSIFIED ARE RETIRING AND OTHER REASONS THAT, 21 AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S MUCH LESS CLASSIFIED THEN THERE USED 22 TO BE. 23 AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE CLASSIFIED 24 SENATORS REMARKED THAT BASED ON THE MISSING STUDENTS, WE 25 SHOULD HAVE MISSING EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SPREAD AROUND THE JUNE 24, 2010 110 1 COLLEGE. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING. 2 WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK 3 THE SEIU FOR THEIR VERY HARD WORK TO THEIR NEGOTIATING 4 TEAM. I KNOW THAT THEY ARE EXTREMELY STRESSED. ALSO THE 5 DISTRICT, BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB. AND 6 ALSO TO THE TRUSTEES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY 7 STRESSFUL TIME FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY WHO IS AROUND OR 8 NEAR THE BUDGET AND MAKING BUDGET DECISIONS. SO I WOULD 9 LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK AS WELL. AND 10 THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR TODAY. 11 ONE MORE, ONE MORE. I DO WANT TO THANK 12 GEORGE -- BY THE WAY, I NEVER REALLY DO THAT, SINGLE OUT 13 ONE CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEE. BUT IN THE PAST FEW DAYS WE HAVE 14 BEEN HAVING A HORRIBLE TIME FOR THE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW 15 LONG WITH THE SHARED GOVERNANCE WEBSITE, THE 16 AUTHORIZATION, MY AUTHORIZATION TO PUT UP INFORMATION IS 17 DISAPPEARING. 18 I CONTACTED DOUG RE. I CONTACTED OTHER PEOPLE, 19 AND THERE WAS ALSO SOME OTHER AREA THAT WE HAD A PROBLEM. 20 AND GEORGE FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT THAT THE SIMPLE SOLUTION 21 WAS THAT SINCE I HAVE FULL AUTHORIZATION, I KEEP PUTTING 22 THE INFORMATION TO THE WORK EMPLOYEE, I EXPECT OTHER 23 PEOPLE TO AUTHORIZE SINCE I HAVE FULL AUTHORIZATION. THEY 24 DON'T CHECK WHAT I PUT THERE BECAUSE I'M SUPPOSED TO JUST 25 BE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE MYSELF THE INFORMATION. JUNE 24, 2010 111 1 BUT ANOTHER, JUST SO YOU WILL KNOW BECAUSE IT 2 DID COME UP THE RECORDINGS FOR SHARED GOVERNANCE, SUCH AS 3 THE COLLEGE WHERE PBC. CURRENTLY, THERE IS A SPACE 4 LIMITATION, SO WE NEED TO ALSO LOOK, HOPEFULLY, BY 5 TOMORROW THAT'S GOING TO BE SOLVED SO WE CANNOT POST SOME 6 OF THE RECORDING UP ON THE WEBSITE CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF 7 THE SPACE LIMITATION. SO GEORGE IS THE PERSON THAT WE 8 HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AND HE IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 11 THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT. I DON'T SEE JOHN 12 OR -- 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THEY ARE RIGHT OVER HERE 14 (INDICATING). 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: OH, THERE THEY ARE. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: JOHN, PETER. 17 THEY WERE HUDDLED. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHAT? 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THEY WERE HUDDLED IN 20 CONFERENCE. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AS I LOOK AT THE AGENDA RIGHT 22 AFTER THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT, IT'S ACTION ON 23 RESOLUTIONS AND THE FIRST RESOLUTION IS THE BUDGET. 24 SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE 25 PRESENTATION AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION ON THE BUDGET OR JUNE 24, 2010 112 1 DO YOU WANT A QUICK UPDATE ON THE CURRENT YEAR FOLLOWED BY 2 THE BUDGET. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN WE JUST WRAP IT UP ALL 4 INTO ONE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: ONE IS FINE. BUT I DON'T 6 KNOW -- I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE FROM SWINERTON. I 7 JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE DIFFERENT THINGS -- YOU 8 COME EVERY MONTH AND I DON'T KNOW IF -- 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES, THEY DO. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THEY DO. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES, THEY DO. I DON'T KNOW IF 13 THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD WHO WANTED TO ADDRESS 14 ANYTHING OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS -- 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO GET TO THE 16 BUDGET. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- OR THANK THEM FOR THE GOOD 18 WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING. THANK YOU. 19 OKAY, SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR THE 20 FIRST RESOLUTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS B1(A). 21 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT, PLEASE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. JUNE 24, 2010 113 1 VICE CHANCELLOR. 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THANK YOU. 3 WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US THIS EVENING RESOLUTION 4 B1(A), WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE THE TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR 5 FISCAL YEAR 2010-2011. 6 FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT RECALL, THE STATE 7 LAW REQUIRES US TO PASS A TENTATIVE BUDGET IN JUNE AND A 8 FINAL BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER. AND WHEN THE LEGISLATURE IS 9 EXCEPTIONALLY LATE WHEN THE GOVERNOR IS WORKING OUT THE 10 END GAME, WE EVEN GOT AN EXTENSION FOR OCTOBER FOR PASSING 11 THE FINAL BUDGET. 12 A QUICK WORD, 2009-2010, THE YEAR THAT ENDED IN 13 JUST A WEEK. WITH THE STATE FOLKS, IT'S NEVER OVER. THEY 14 HAVE SUBMITTED WHAT'S CALLED A "P2 REPORT" TO ALL THE 15 DISTRICTS YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE, OR IS IT THE DAY BEFORE 16 THAT, WHICH IS THE MOST FINAL NUMBER THEY CAN GIVE US FOR 17 THE CURRENT YEAR WITHIN THE CURRENT YEAR. 18 AND THE REASON I AM CALLING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION 19 BECAUSE THERE IS NOW, ON PAPER AT LEAST, A DEFICIT FACTOR 20 IN THE STATE. THERE HADN'T BEEN ONE BEFORE. AND THEY ARE 21 TELLING US NOW WITH A WEEK TO GO THAT WE WILL BE GETTING 22 $183,000 LESS IN 2009-2010 THEN WE THOUGHT. THIS YEAR 23 BEING AS TIGHT AS IT IS, THAT HURTS. 24 THEY ARE ALSO TELLING US THAT THERE'S SOME 25 REDEVELOPMENT MONEY THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN OVER THE YEARS JUNE 24, 2010 114 1 THAT THEY ARE NOW COUNTING AGAINST OUR PROPERTY TAX, BUT 2 WE ARE HOLDING THAT MONEY, SO THERE'S NO IMPACT ON THE 3 BUDGET FROM THAT ONE. $183,000 IS AN IMPACT ON THE 4 BUDGET. 5 JOHN AND I WERE JUST TALKING TRYING TO GO OVER 6 SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS IN THE REPORT. WE ARE NOT 7 FINISHED YET, SO WE WILL HAVE TO REPORT TO YOU LATER THAN 8 TONIGHT AS TO WHETHER IT HAS ANY OTHER IMPACTS ON OUR 9 DISTRICT. 10 NOW ABOUT 2010-2011 -- 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THIS $183,000 FOR 12 2009-'10. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. 14 MONEY THAT WE WERE ENTITLED TO BASED ON THE 15 ORIGINAL NUMBERS THEY GAVE US. AND THEY ARE NOW SAYING 16 THEY DON'T HAVE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE 18 US IN TERMS OF OUR OBLIGATION TO HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET? 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: FOR 2009-2010? 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, FOR 2009-2010. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: CLOSE. WE ARE IN THE CLOSEOUT 22 YEAR END CLOSEOUT PROCESS NOW. WE ARE STILL GUARDEDLY 23 OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO USE ANY OF THE MONEY THAT 24 WE PUT UP FROM THE RESERVE IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. JUNE 24, 2010 115 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BUT IT'S NOT A CERTAINTY UNTIL 2 WE GET FINISHED WITH THE YEAR END CLOSEOUT. AND NEWS LIKE 3 THAT FROM THE STATE DOES NOT HELP US. 4 AND WE ARE NOT THE ONLY -- IT'S EVERY DISTRICT 5 IN THE STATE THAT'S GETTING THEIR SHARE. IT'S A MUCH 6 BIGGER NUMBER. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE WRONG IMPRESSION. 7 OKAY, 2010-2011, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LENGTHY 8 PROCESS TO GET HERE THIS EVENING. MANY SESSIONS IN FRONT 9 OF THE SHARED GOVERNANCE PLANNING AND BUDGET COUNCIL, 10 MULTIPLE SESSIONS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD'S PLANNING AND 11 BUDGET COMMITTEE. ONE OF WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY, WAS 12 CANCELED AS I RECALL, BUT OTHERS WERE CONDUCTED. THEY 13 WERE RATHER EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS. 14 A RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 15 STATING THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES FOR DEVELOPING THE BUDGET, 16 WHICH IS INCORPORATED IN THE BUDGET BOOK. THEY ARE 17 AVAILABLE OVER THERE IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE ONE. 18 THE CHANCELLOR PRESENTED A LIST OF EIGHT 19 PRINCIPLES TO THE BOARD'S BUDGET COMMITTEE. THEY ARE 20 REFERENCED IN HIS MESSAGE IN THE BUDGET BOOK. PRINCIPLES 21 ACCORDING TO WHICH THIS BUDGET WAS PUT TOGETHER RELATED TO 22 SAVING IN SPENDING FOR PERSONNEL, THE ATTRITION INSTEAD OF 23 LAYOFFS, MAXIMIZING ENROLLMENT GROWTH FUNDING IN 24 2010-2011. 25 WE ARE TRYING TO INCREASE THE REVENUE WE GET JUNE 24, 2010 116 1 FROM NONRESIDENT TUITION, INCLUDING FOUNDATION 2 FUND-RAISING AND INTERNAL FUND-RAISING. THERE'S MONEY 3 THAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS PROVIDING 4 SOME PROTECTION FOR STUDENT SERVICES. I WILL COME BACK TO 5 THAT IN SECOND. MAINTAINING ACCESS FOR STUDENTS, 6 RESTORATION OF SUMMER CLASSES, ADDING SOME CLASSES TO FALL 7 AND SPRING, AND SELECTIVE ACADEMIC PROGRAM REDUCTIONS. 8 THE ONE I AM COMING BACK TO IS SOME PROTECTION 9 FOR STUDENT SERVICES. AS YOU RECALL, THE STATE DECIMATED 10 FUNDING FOR THE CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS LAST YEAR. THERE IS 11 NO RESTORATION PROPOSED BY THE LEGISLATURE OR THE GOVERNOR 12 FOR THOSE DEEP CUTS. 13 AND IN FACT THE DISTRICT HAS BEEN IN A SENSE 14 USING UNRESTRICTED GENERAL FUND MONEY TO TRY TO MITIGATE 15 THAT PROBLEM, BOTH IN THE CURRENT YEAR AND TO A LARGER 16 EXTENT IN THE NEXT YEAR. THE BUDGET THAT THIS ONE 17 ADDRESSES, THAT NUMBER WILL BE ABOUT THREE AND A HALF 18 MILLION DOLLARS AT THIS POINT. 19 THAT NUMBER IS NEEDED TO KEEP STUDENT SERVICES 20 AT ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE NOW. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY 21 FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT HELP ADDRESS THE STATE CUTS 22 BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE CURRENT YEAR. 23 THE KEY FEATURES OF THE BUDGET AS WE GO FORWARD 24 THOUGH INVOLVE INSTRUCTION. WE ARE ADDING $3 MILLION TO 25 THE BUDGET TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE BASE ENROLLMENT AND JUNE 24, 2010 117 1 STRATEGICALLY TO EARN GROWTH FUNDING FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT 2 WILL ALLOW TO US RESTORE AT LEAST 40 PERCENT OF THE NORMAL 3 SUMMER SESSION IN THE SUMMER OF 2011 AND TO ADD ABOUT 200 4 CLASS SECTIONS BACK IN TOTAL INTO THE FALL AND SPRING 5 SEMESTERS. 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: 200? 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 8 THE CHANCELLOR HAS SPOKEN AT SOME PREVIOUS 9 SESSIONS ABOUT THE NEED TO PARTICULARLY ADDRESS BASIC 10 SKILLS PROGRAMS AS WE ADD BACK CLASSES IN A STRATEGIC 11 EFFORT TO REPLACE THOSE CLASSES. 12 BUT WHAT'S OF COURSE PARAMOUNT IS THAT WE GET 13 BACK TO BASE ENROLLMENT OR 2010-2011, WE COULD LOSE 14 ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE. WE ARE USING UP OUR 15 HOLD HARMLESS YEAR THIS YEAR 2009-2010 WHERE WE ARE BY 16 DESIGN BELOW BASE WITH THE CANCELLATION OF SUMMER AND 17 OTHER CLASSES. THAT'S A ONE-YEAR PROVISION. NEXT YEAR 18 THE ENROLLMENT NUMBER HAS TO GO BACK UP AND WE HAVE TO BE 19 ABOVE BASE. 20 THERE ARE SOME KEY ASSUMPTIONS IN THIS BUDGET 21 BEFORE I TURN TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS 22 THAT I WANT TO READ FOR US THAT FOLKS NEED TO BE AWARE OF. 23 THE FIRST ONE IS, OF COURSE, THAT THIS IS A 24 TENTATIVE BUDGET AND THAT WE WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF THE 25 BOARD IN SEPTEMBER, POSSIBLY OCTOBER IF THE STATE PROCESS JUNE 24, 2010 118 1 GETS STALLED AS LONG AS IT HAS IN RECENT YEARS. WITH A 2 FINAL BUDGET THAT COULD BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE ARE 3 SHOWING YOU TONIGHT IN SOME WAYS. 4 IN TERMS OF OUR STATE FUNDING, THE ASSUMPTION 5 HERE IS THAT WE WOULD GET THE BUDGET THAT HAS MADE ITS WAY 6 THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, NOT THE BUDGET THAT THE GOVERNOR 7 PROPOSED. THE KEY DIFFERENCE BEING THE GOVERNOR PROPOSED 8 A NEGATIVE COLA, SO WE ARE NOT BUILDING A NEGATIVE COLA 9 INTO OUR MODEL. 10 THE GOVERNMENT PROPOSED YET ANOTHER CUT TO 11 FUNDING FOR PART-TIME FACULTY ABOUT $300,000 FOR US, AND 12 WE ARE ASSUMING THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. WHERE THE 13 LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR END UP ON THIS, NOBODY KNOWS 14 AT THIS POINT. 15 WE ARE ASSUMING THAT OUR LOTTERY INCOME WILL 16 ACTUALLY GROW, BUT OUR TAKE FROM IT WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE 17 OF OUR FTES NUMBER BEING LOWER IN 2009-2010 THAN IN 18 2008-2009. AND THERE'S A LOOK BACK FOR FUNDING LOTTERY 19 MONEY, SO IT'S BASED ON ENROLLMENT FOR THIS YEAR. 20 WE ARE ASSUMING OUR SALES TAX WILL GROW 21 SLIGHTLY. WITH A SLOW ECONOMIC RECOVERY, NOT REALLY 22 ENOUGH TO MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IN OUR BUDGET. WE ARE 23 BUILDING IN A $500,000 INCREASE IN NONRESIDENT TUITION. 24 NONRESIDENT TUITION WENT UP SUBSTANTIALLY THIS YEAR, BUT 25 IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO GET ABOVE ANOTHER $500,000 NEXT JUNE 24, 2010 119 1 YEAR BECAUSE THE SUMMER WOULD HAVE COUNTED AS THE FIRST OF 2 THE THREE SEMESTERS OF THAT INCOME THIS YEAR AND IT'S NOT 3 THERE. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU ARE PROJECTING 500,000 -- 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: INCREASE IN NONRESIDENT 6 TUITION. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: BASED ON -- 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE FACT THAT IT HAS BEEN 9 INCREASING SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE MOST RECENT YEAR, AND NOW 10 WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOME STRATEGIC MARKETING OF THE 11 COLLEGE. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: AND IF WE COULD GET SUMMER SCHOOL 13 BACK 40 PERCENT -- NEXT YEAR -- 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THAT WOULD ALSO HELP WITH 16 THE -- 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT REVENUE WOULD BE FOR THE 18 FOLLOWING YEAR. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: 2011. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, THAT WOULD ALSO HELP WITH 22 THE INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS WILL 24 BE ADDING MONEY TO THE COLLEGE'S BUDGET, AND WE ARE TRYING 25 TO ATTRACT MORE STUDENTS. JUNE 24, 2010 120 1 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BOTH FROM OTHER STATES AND FROM 3 OTHER COUNTRIES. BUT THE MONEY THAT THEY WOULD PAY TO 4 ATTEND IN THE SUMMER OF 2011 WOULD COUNT TOWARD THE 5 2011-'12 BUDGET. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. I WANT TO CONTINUE ON ON 8 REVENUE ASSUMPTIONS. 9 ANOTHER IMPORTANT ONE IS THAT WE BUILT IN AN 10 ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL RAISE $1.5 MILLION. WE'VE TALKED 11 ABOUT THIS IN A FEW DIFFERENT SESSIONS HERE. THE 12 COMBINATION OF MONEY POSSIBLY FROM OUR FOUNDATION OR FROM 13 FUND-RAISING THE COLLEGE CAN DO DIRECTLY. 14 FINALLY, THERE IS BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET AS WAS 15 THE CASE THIS YEAR, THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE BOARD WOULD 16 AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER OF $2 MILLION FROM THE BOARD 17 DESIGNATED RESERVE INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET. THE BOARD 18 DESIGNATED RESERVE IS STILL STANDING AT $6.6 MILLION. IT 19 WOULD BE DRAWN DOWN TO $4.6 MILLION IF WE USE THE 20 2 MILLION. THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY AVOID 21 IT. 22 I WOULD MAKE NO PROMISE THAT WE CAN AVOID IT 23 NEXT YEAR. IN FACT MY OPINION IS THAT WE WOULD IN FACT 24 SPEND IT IN 2010-2011. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: I THINK I -- IF I MAY, THROUGH JUNE 24, 2010 121 1 THE CHAIR. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: I THINK I ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION 4 BEFORE, BUT LEGALLY WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTAIN 5 PERCENTAGE IN TERMS OF RESERVE. BUT SINCE ALL THE OTHER 6 COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE ALSO -- 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: -- SPENDING THEIR RESERVES, YOU 9 FEEL THAT WE ARE PROTECTED. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT ALONE IN 11 SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THE RESERVE TO TRY TO SURVIVE THESE 12 YEARS. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: HOW THAT WILL BE LOOKED UPON, I 15 DON'T KNOW. REASONABLE PEOPLE WOULD SUGGEST THAT 16 THRESHOLD SHOULD BE VIEWED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE TIME THAT 17 WE ARE IN, BUT WE ARE NOT IN CONTROL OF THAT. 18 WE STILL HAVE A VERY LARGE FUND BALANCE WHICH 19 MEETS THE 5 PERCENT TEST. AND THAT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO 20 THE PREPAID 75-YEAR LEASE FOR THE MISSION CAMPUS, WHICH 21 SHOWS UP AS PART OF OUR FUND BALANCE SO THAT THAT PART OF 22 OUR FUND BALANCE ALONE WILL PUT US IN GOOD STANDING WITH 23 RESPECT TO THE 5 PERCENT REVENUES. 24 BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL CASH WE CAN SPEND, WE 25 WILL NOT HAVE THAT MUCH IN AN EMERGENCY. JUNE 24, 2010 122 1 TRUSTEE WONG: THANKS. 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. JOHN REMINDED ME THERE 3 WAS ALSO AN AUDIT FINDING THAT SUGGESTED THAT WE COULD 4 COUNT DEPARTMENTAL ACCOUNTS THAT WERE NOT COUNTED AS PART 5 OF THAT FUND BALANCE FOR THE 5 PERCENT THRESHOLD 6 PREVIOUSLY ARE NOW COUNTED THAT WAY. AND THAT WOULD ADD 7 ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD THAT ONE. 8 IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURE ASSUMPTIONS, AS I 9 INDICATED, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A LOT OF MONEY BACK 10 FOR CLASS SECTIONS AND PRIMARILY IN THE SUMMER. THERE ARE 11 DRAMATIC COST INCREASES THAT WE FACE NEXT YEAR THAT ARE 12 PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON OUR BUDGET IN THE AREA OF 13 FRINGE BENEFITS, PRIMARILY, WITH HEATH CARE AND PENSION. 14 AND IN THIS CASE THE PENSION PRESSURE IS COMING FROM THE 15 SAN FRANCISCO EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT SYSTEM WHERE THE 16 EMPLOYER RATE WENT FROM FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT A YEAR AGO 17 TO 9 PERCENT THIS YEAR TO 13 POINT SOMETHING NEXT YEAR. A 18 $1.5 MILLION IN NEW EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR. 19 EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM SACRAMENTO IS 20 THAT STRS IS NOT FAR BEHIND. AND IN FACT WILL BE A SOURCE 21 OF PRESSURE THAT WE WILL FEEL IN THE COMING YEAR '11-'12. 22 IN TERMS OF OTHER ASSUMPTIONS IN THE BUDGET, WE 23 ARE ALSO ASSUMING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DRAW NEW GRANTS 24 TO THE COLLEGE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MOVE $500,000 WORTH 25 OF CURRENT UNRESTRICTED EXPENDITURES ONTO THOSE GRANT JUNE 24, 2010 123 1 FUNDS. THAT'S A STRATEGY WE'VE HAD BEFORE WITH LIMITED 2 SUCCESS. WE NEED IT TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR. 3 SO ALL OF THE THINGS I JUST OUTLINED HAVE TO 4 COME TOGETHER IN ORDER FOR US TO KEEP THIS BUDGET IN THE 5 STATE THAT WE PRESENTED IT TO YOU. AND, OF COURSE, THE 6 BIGGEST WILD CARD THAT WE FACE IS REALLY NOT KNOWING HOW 7 THE FINAL STATE BUDGET WILL LOOK FOR US WHEN IT GETS TO 8 THE LAST PART OF THE PROCESS IN SACRAMENTO. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I WOULD JUST CONCLUDE BY 11 SAYING -- 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET'S LET HIM FINISH. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- THAT YOUR FINANCIAL STAFF IS 14 RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF THIS BUDGET. AND I WOULD POINT 15 OUT THAT IN ORDER TO PASS THE RESOLUTION, WHICH INCLUDES A 16 TRANSFER OUT OF THE BOARD DESIGNATED RESERVE, THAT TAKES A 17 TWO-THIRDS VOTE. THAT PARTICULAR PART TAKES A TWO-THIRDS 18 VOTE. TO PASS A BUDGET, ONLY TAKES A MAJORITY VOTE. AND 19 BECAUSE THE INCLUSION OF THE TRANSFER OF THE RESERVE IS 20 HERE, THE RESOLUTION HAS IN THE HEADING THE LANGUAGE 21 RELATED TO A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: NOW TRUSTEE JACKSON. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BEGIN 24 WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT PROCESS 25 THAN LAST YEAR. I REMEMBER A FLURRY OF E-MAILS WITH FOLKS JUNE 24, 2010 124 1 YELLING AT US IF WE DON'T PASS THE BUDGET, ARMAGEDDON WILL 2 HAPPEN. AND I REMEMBER SEEING -- HAVING THE BUDGET WITHIN 3 THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS OF ME STARTING MY PROCESS ON THIS 4 IS BOARD. 5 AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE THIS PROCESS IN TERMS 6 OF ITS INCLUSIVENESS. I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE VALUES. 7 AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT FOLKS IN THE FINANCIAL STAFF WERE 8 THINKING AND WHAT THEIR LINE OF THINKING AND HOW THEY FELT 9 THAT THEY INTEGRATED OUR GOALS AND VALUES INTO THE BUDGET 10 PROCESS. I ALSO SAW THAT WHEN WE, AS A COMMITTEE, TRIED 11 TO ADOPT BUDGET GOALS, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A PUSH BACK. 12 BUT ULTIMATELY WE, AS A BOARD, ADOPTED THOSE GOALS. 13 YOU KNOW, I JUST LOOK AT IT, AND I CAN'T GET 14 OVER THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE ONLY MAJOR PUBLIC 15 INSTITUTION THAT HAS STILL MAINTAINED ITS WORKFORCE. YOU 16 KNOW, YOU SEE SF UNIFIED AND THE LAYOFFS THAT THEY ARE 17 FORCED TO MAKE. YOU SEE THE CITY GOVERNMENT IN THE 18 LAYOFFS THAT THEY ARE FORCED TO MAKE. YOU SEE THE STATE 19 GOVERNMENT. ALL AROUND YOU SEE PUBLIC GOVERNMENT'S HAVING 20 TO MAKE LAYOFFS. 21 AND IT'S JUST AMAZING THAT WE ARE THE ONLY, YOU 22 KNOW, MAJOR PUBLIC INSTITUTION THAT HAS NOT HAD TO MAKE 23 LAYOFFS. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD 24 ACTUALLY BE PROUD OF AS A BOARD AND AS A COLLEGE 25 INSTITUTION. JUNE 24, 2010 125 1 MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF MOVING SOME OUR 2 PROGRAMS ON TO GRANT FUNDING, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS HAD AN 3 ISSUE USING ONE-TIME MONIES FOR LONG-TIME SERVICES BECAUSE 4 I THINK -- I ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S THE PLAN WHEN 5 AND IF THAT GRANT RUNS OUT, AND WE DON'T GET IT RENEWED? 6 I MEAN WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PROGRAM? 7 I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY, I KNOW IT GETS CUT, BUT DO 8 WE HAVE A FALL BACK PLAN? 9 I MEAN THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A QUESTION I WOULD 10 ASK FOR THE FINAL BUDGET, BUT NOT FOR THIS BUDGET. AND 11 PROBABLY EVEN A QUESTION I WOULD ASK FOR THE ADOPTION OF 12 NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OUR PROGRAMS THAT 13 ARE MOVED TO GRANTS? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE GRANTS RUN 14 OUT, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE ESSENTIAL PROGRAMS AND 15 ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND ESSENTIAL INSTRUCTION. 16 BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF 17 THIS BUDGET, NOT JUST BECAUSE I AM A BUDGET CHAIR, BUT 18 BECAUSE I REALLY FELT FOR THE FIRST TIME I UNDERSTAND, YOU 19 KNOW, WHAT THE ACTUAL THINKING WAS GOING INTO THE BUDGET. 20 AND I REALLY STRONGLY FEEL THAT THE VALUES THAT WE WANTED, 21 ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP, ESPECIALLY WITHIN 22 THOSE ACHIEVEMENT HEARINGS TO SEE THAT WE ARE ADDING 23 CLASSES, ESPECIALLY IN PARTICULARLY AROUND BASIC SKILLS 24 CLASSES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY ATTRACTIVE. AND I 25 THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE STUDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR. AND JUNE 24, 2010 126 1 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MUCH NEEDED IS TO TRY TO UNCLOG 2 THAT CLOG IN TERMS OF WHERE BASIC -- HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED 3 BASIC SKILLS? AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS AND CAN 4 ACTUALLY GET TO THOSE CLASSES? 5 AND IF IT WAS JUST FOR THAT REASON ALONE, I 6 WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS A PRELIMINARY BUDGET THAT WE CAN 7 SUPPORT BECAUSE IT REALLY TAKES THE FIRST STEPS TO 8 ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE REAL ISSUES OF OUR STUDENT 9 ACHIEVEMENT GAP AT CITY COLLEGE, SO I WILL END IT WITH 10 THAT. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 12 TRUSTEE RIZZO. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, FIRST I WANT TO 14 THANK EVERY ONE WHO WORKS IN THE COLLEGE FOR PITCHING IN 15 AND TAKING SOME OF THE PAIN. I THINK THIS IS -- WE'VE 16 DONE WHAT THE CITY HAS FAILED TO DO I THINK IN THAT WE'VE 17 SHARED THE PAIN. WE ARE NOT TARGETING ONE GROUP AND 18 SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING UP WHILE OTHER 19 PEOPLE ARE NOT OR ARE GETTING RAISES. 20 EVERY GROUP, THE UNIONS, THE ADMINISTRATORS, 21 THEY ARE ALL TAKING -- THEY ARE ALL GIVING SOMETHING BACK. 22 AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WE ARE NOT HAVING THE KINDS 23 OF FIGHTS THAT THEY ARE HAVING AT THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THE 24 CITY, THEIR MANAGERS, THEY HAVE A VOLUNTARY -- THEY CAN 25 VOLUNTARILY TAKE THEIR PAY CUT AND VERY FEW OF THEM HAVE. JUNE 24, 2010 127 1 AND HERE WE'VE WORKED IT OUT WITH OUR ADMINISTRATORS WHO 2 ARE VERY WILLING TO DO THAT. AND THE SAME WITH THE 3 UNIONS. WE ARE NOT HAVING THESE BRAWLS AND FINGER 4 POINTING, BUT EVERYONE IS TOGETHER AND REALIZES THAT WE 5 NEED TO MAKE THESE SACRIFICES FOR THE GOOD OF THE 6 INSTITUTION. 7 AND I AM VERY HEARTENED. I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS 8 IN ANY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT BE IT THE STATE, THE CITY, EVEN 9 THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I THINK WE ARE AHEAD OF IN THIS WAY, 10 AND SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THAT. 11 I DO HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T 12 KNOW IF I WILL ASK THEM NOW ABOUT THIS BUDGET. 13 I DID WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT ACTUALLY 14 CORRECT TO SAY WE'VE HAD NO LAYOFFS. I THINK THAT 15 MINIMIZES SOME OF THE SUFFERING THAT HAS GONE ON. 16 WE'VE LAID OFF A NUMBER OF PART-TIME FACULTY. 17 THOSE PART-TIME FACULTY ARE NO LONGER WORKING HERE. THEY 18 ARE EITHER -- I'M SURE A LOT OF THEM ARE ON UNEMPLOYMENT 19 OR THEY FOUND ANOTHER JOB, BUT WE DID LOSE A LOT OF THOSE 20 PEOPLE WHEN WE ELIMINATED 1500 CLASSES. SO I THINK THEY 21 SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED. THAT IS A SACRIFICE. 22 AND AS ATTILA POINTED OUT, THIS HIRING FREEZE 23 THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A WHILE HAS REDUCED THE NUMBER OF 24 CLASSIFIED STAFF. AND IN TALKING WITH THEM, THEY CONSIDER 25 IT VERY SIMILAR TO A LAYOFF. AND I HAVE TO AGREE BECAUSE JUNE 24, 2010 128 1 THERE'S FEWER PEOPLE DOING THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK. THE 2 ADMINISTRATORS IS THE SAME WAY. WE HAVE I THINK 16 FEWER 3 ADMINISTRATORS. SO WE HAVE BEEN LOSING PEOPLE. AND THERE 4 ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER WORKING HERE EITHER BY CHOICE 5 OR NOT BY CHOICE. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO RECOGNIZE 6 THAT THOSE WERE SACRIFICES. 7 I HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD GO INTO MY 8 QUESTIONS NOW OR IF WE WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO SAY -- 9 I CAN GO INTO THEM. WHAT I DID NOT SEE IN 10 HERE -- I AGREE THAT BASIC SKILLS NEEDS TO BE FUNDED MORE 11 THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR. I DID NOT SEE THAT IN HERE. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS SENT ME A CHART OF A TABLE OF A 13 NUMBER OF STUDENTS UNABLE TO REGISTER FOR CREDIT COURSES 14 BY SUBJECT. AND IT'S CLEAR THAT MATH AND ENGLISH BY FAR 15 ARE THE MOST -- ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THE MOST 16 PEOPLE WHO CAN'T REGISTER FOR CLASSES. THOSE HAPPEN TO BE 17 BASIC SKILLS DEPARTMENTS. 18 FOR INSTANCE, NO. 3, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS 19 ABBREVIATION STANDS FOR, SO I WON'T TRY, ANAT. I DON'T 20 KNOW. IT DOESN'T MATTER. 21 NO. 3, IS 991 PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT GET INTO -- 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANATOMY. 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANATOMY, WHO COULD NOT 24 GET INTO ANATOMY. WHEN YOU CAN MOVE UP TO NO. 2, ENGLISH, 25 THAT MORE THAN DOUBLES TO OVER 2000. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO JUNE 24, 2010 129 1 TO MATH, IT INCREASES BY ANOTHER 500 -- 2500 STUDENTS 2 NEARLY. AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A RED FLAG ON HERE. 3 I DON'T SEE IN HERE, MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT I 4 DON'T SEE IN HERE WHERE THOSE ARE GETTING FUNDED MORE. 5 AND I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE I THINK THEY SHOULD BE. I 6 THINK THAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS -- WE SHOULD NOT HAVE AN EVEN 7 CUT, ACROSS THE BOARD CUTS, AS WE HAD LAST YEAR. 8 SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS: ARE MATH AND ENGLISH 9 GOING TO GET MORE FUNDING RELATIVE TO OTHER SECTIONS? AND 10 IF SO, HOW MUCH? AND WHERE IS THAT REFLECTED IN HERE? 11 AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S TRUE? 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TWO PARTS OF THAT, AND I'M 13 GOING TO HAVE DR. ALICE MURILLO ADDRESS PART OF IT. 14 THE OTHER PART OF IT IS IN THIS REPORT THAT I'VE 15 GIVEN OUT TO THE BOARD, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE 16 ACHIEVEMENT GAP. AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH BOTH THE MATH 17 DEPARTMENT AND THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. AND WE TALK ABOUT 18 $3 MILLION WORTH OF COURSES BEING ADDED. BUT PROBABLY 19 $600,000 OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ADDED DIRECTLY INTO 20 ENGLISH AND MATH. 21 THE MOST BASIC CLASSES AND, OF COURSE, THE 22 DEPARTMENT CHAIR DENNIS IS HERE FOR MATH IF HE WANTS TO 23 SPEAK TO THAT. ALSO ALICE IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF 24 THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TO INCREASE OUR BASIC 25 SKILLS. JUNE 24, 2010 130 1 SO ENGLISH AND MATH SPECIFICALLY, AND IT'S 2 DETAILED IN THIS REPORT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THIS 3 COMING FISCAL YEAR TO ADD BACK TO THE MATH AND ENGLISH 4 DEPARTMENT AND ACTUALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SECTIONS 5 THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR BASIC SKILLS. 6 SECONDLY, THE CUTTING OF THE SUMMER SCHOOL FOR A 7 LARGE PART WAS A HUGE CUT IN BASIC SKILLS. WE LOST 58 8 SECTIONS OF MATHEMATICS IN THE SUMMER THAT WE CUT THIS 9 TIME. SO MOST OF THOSE WILL BE COMING BACK IN THE SUMMER 10 OF 2011. LIKEWISE, IN TERMS OF ENGLISH AND MANY OF THE 11 OTHER BASIC SKILLS CLASSES. 12 WHAT IS GOING TO BE DECREASING THIS YEAR BECAUSE 13 IT'S DRIVEN BY DEMAND IS FEWER NON CREDIT ESL CLASSES, 14 WHICH THE ENROLLMENT IS DROPPING SIGNIFICANTLY IN THAT 15 AREA. AND WE ARE TRANSFERRING IT OVER TO WHERE THERE'S 16 HIGH DEMAND IN THE BASIC SKILLS AREA. BUT I ALSO HAVE 17 SOME MORE DETAIL. 18 VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO: GOOD EVENING, ALICE 19 MURILLO, VICE CHANCELLOR. 20 THERE'S A LITTLE CHART, I BELIEVE, CHANCELLOR, 21 YOU MAY HAVE A COLOR-CODED CHART. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. 23 VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO: WHAT IT ATTEMPTS TO DO 24 IS KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE 25 FALL TERM. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS SPRING YET. WE ARE STILL JUNE 24, 2010 131 1 IN THOSE PLANNING STAGES. 2 BUT THE INTENT WITH THIS CHART IS TO KIND OF 3 SUMMARIZE FOR US. AND THERE'S MORE INFORMATION IN THERE 4 THAT YOU PROBABLY NEED AT THIS POINT, BUT IT ATTEMPTS TO 5 SUMMARIZE FOR OUR RECORDS WHAT WE ARE REINSTATING IN THE 6 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THE REASONS, THE CRITERIA THAT 7 WE ARE USING FOR THE REINSTATEMENT. 8 SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A COLOR-CODED CHART WHERE WE 9 HAVE DEPARTMENTS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, AND IT REFLECTS 10 THE COURSES THAT WE REINSTATED BASED ON REQUESTS BY THE 11 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. WE HAD SOME AGREEMENTS UP FRONT IN 12 TERMS OF WHAT WAS CRITICAL FOR REINSTATEMENT OF COURSES. 13 AND ONE CRITERION OF IMPORTANCE FOR US WAS THE FACT THAT 14 WE HAD A LOT OF DELAY HIRES FOR THIS YEAR, AND WE HAD TO 15 MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD LOAD FOR THOSE FOLKS COMING ON BOARD 16 THIS FALL TERM. 17 SO WE HAVE OUR FIRST COLUMN OR CATEGORY OF 18 REINSTATEMENT WAS LOW TO ENSURE THAT ANYBODY WHO WAS 19 OFFERED A JOB AND DELAYED TO START THIS SEMESTER, EVEN 20 AFTER THE CUTS FROM LAST YEAR, WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT LOAD 21 TO HAVE THEIR FULL-TIME ASSIGNMENT. 22 SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, THE VERY 23 FIRST -- WHAT I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT 24 OF MATERIAL HERE. JUST FOCUS ON THE LINES THAT ARE YELLOW 25 ACROSS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE LINES THAT HAVE SOME NUMBERS JUNE 24, 2010 132 1 WHICH REFLECTS LOAD THAT'S BEEN ADDED INTO A DEPARTMENT. 2 AND THE REASON WHY IT WAS ADDED ON IS REFLECTED AT THE TOP 3 OF THE COLUMN. 4 THE FIRST COLUMN SAYS, "NEW FULL-TIME REQUIRED 5 FTE." THAT IS LOAD THAT WAS REQUIRED TO ASSURE A 6 FULL-TIME ASSIGNMENT FOR THE NEW HIRES THAT WE HAD 7 COMMITTED TO. 8 THE NEXT COLUMN SAYS, "SEC." THAT'S LOAD THAT 9 WE COMMITTED TO FOR SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, EXPANSION OF 10 EDUCATION PROGRAM. 11 THE THIRD COLUMN SAYS, "VC SCHOOL REINSTATED 12 FTE." WE HAD A TARGET OF 15 TO 16 FTE FOR THE ENTIRE 13 COLLEGE, BUT AFTER WE ALLOCATED OFF THE TOP THE COMMITMENT 14 FOR NEW HIRES, WE DID A VERY SMALL DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE 15 SCHOOLS. THAT WAS ONLY THREE FTE ABOUT 15 CLASSES, VERY 16 LITTLE PENDING ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS RELEASED THAT CAN GO 17 BACK TO THAT POOL. 18 THE NEXT COLUMN IS "GRANT FUNDED FTES." SO WE 19 HAD GRANT DOLLARS THAT PAID FOR COURSES. AND WHEREVER WE 20 GOT THE MONEY, IT WAS SPECIFIC TO A PARTICULAR AREA. WE 21 PAY CLASSES OUT OF THAT POT. 22 THE NEXT ONE "DONATED DOLLARS." WELL, WE GOT 23 DONATED DOLLARS. WE WERE ABLE TO REINSTATE COURSES. NOT 24 ALL OF IT IS REFLECTED IN THAT COLUMN BECAUSE SOME OF 25 THESE WERE REFLECTED IN WHAT WE WERE CALLING ALSO JUNE 24, 2010 133 1 EXPANSION. 2 THE NEXT COLUMN SAYS, "VC REINSTATEMENT FTE." 3 THE NEXT TWO COLUMNS "VC REINSTATEMENT" AND "VC EXPANSION" 4 ARE THE REQUESTS FROM DEPARTMENTS OF REINSTATING COURSES 5 BECAUSE OF HIGH DEMAND, STUDENT NEEDS, PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS, 6 EXPANSION FOR HIGH DEMAND AREAS LIKE MATH AND ENGLISH AND 7 CHEMISTRY. AND THOSE COLUMNS REFLECT WHAT WAS ADDED ON. 8 AND A LOT OF THESE ARE TIED TO EITHER DONATED DOLLARS OR 9 AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE SOME DEPARTMENT CANCELED A CLASS THEY 10 DIDN'T WANT TO TEACH, SO WE TOOK THAT FTE AND PUT INTO THE 11 HIGH DEMAND AREAS, MATH, ENGLISH AND CHEMISTRY. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU MEAN FOR 2010-2011. 13 VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO: FOR THIS NEXT -- THIS 14 IS FOR FALL TERM. THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF THE FALL DECISION 15 MAKING IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, BECAUSE IT'S 17 LABELED FALL 2009. 18 VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO: WELL, THESE WERE THE 19 CLASSES THAT WERE POSTPONED IN FALL 2009 AND THEN WE ARE 20 REINSTATING NOW, SO MAYBE I WILL ADJUST THAT HEADING. SO 21 BASED ON WHAT WAS CUT LAST FALL, WHAT WAS REINSTATED 22 VERSUS WHAT WAS IN ADDITION TO FALL. 23 SO YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING, FOR EXAMPLE, MATH 24 AND ENGLISH AND HIGH DEMAND AREAS. WE TAKE A LOOK AT 25 ENGLISH. EXCUSE ME, LET'S START OFF WITH CHEMISTRY. IF JUNE 24, 2010 134 1 YOU TAKE A LOOK AT CHEMISTRY, WHICH IS A HIGH DEMAND AREA, 2 WE HAVE NEW FTE GIVEN BECAUSE OF A NEW HIGHER. THAT'S THE 3 .24 TIMES THREE. THEN YOU GOT VC EXPANSION, SO WE FOUND 4 ADDITIONAL FTE TO EXPAND THE OFFERINGS IN CHEMISTRY. 5 YOU'VE GOT A TOTAL OF 1.58 FTE. 6 WHEN YOU LOOK AT ENGLISH, YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE -- 7 MORE THAN HALF A PAGE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE NEXT 8 WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF COURSES ADDED BACK INTO ENGLISH. 9 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT A LOT OF IT IS JUST SPREAD OUT OVER A 10 DIFFERENT CRITERIA. WE HAD GRANTS. WE HAD DONATIONS. WE 11 HAD EXPANSION. WE HAD NEW HIRE. THE SOUTHEAST EXPANSION, 12 SO ENGLISH WAS ACROSS THE BOARD, A LOT OF DIFFERENT 13 REASONS WHY WE FUNDED ENGLISH. SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT 14 THAT SECTION OF ENGLISH, YOU CAN SEE THAT GRANT TOTAL OF 15 WHAT'S OFFERED THERE BASED ON THE NUMBERS AND THAT YELLOW 16 GRID. 17 MATH WE DID THE SAME THING. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK 18 AT MATH, TWO PAGES AFTER THAT. YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE 19 MATH DEPARTMENT, THE FTE GIVEN TO MATH WAS MOSTLY A 20 REINSTATEMENT OF WHAT WAS CUT THE YEAR BEFORE, PLUS 21 ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR EXPANSION. AND SO THE YELLOW GRID 22 HERE REFLECTS WHAT WE'VE ADDED BACK INTO THE FALL TERM. 23 THERE IS A SUMMARY SHEET, CHANCELLOR, I BELIEVE 24 THERE'S A TOP SHEET. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE HAVE ANOTHER SHEET. JUNE 24, 2010 135 1 VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO: YEAH, AND THAT HELPS 2 TO FIND THE COLUMN HEADING SO YOU HAVE THAT FOR YOUR 3 REFERENCE. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IS IT THIS ONE 5 (INDICATING)? 6 VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO: YES, THERE'S A COPY 7 FOR EVERYBODY THERE AS WELL. IT REFLECTS THE DEFINITIONS 8 ON THOSE HEADINGS AND THE TOTAL FTE FOR EACH OF THOSE 9 HEADINGS THERE. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WHICH ONE -- 11 VICE CHANCELLOR MURILLO: HE'S PASSING IT OUT. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OVERALL, HOW MANY BASIC SKILLS 13 CLASSES WERE ADDED JUST TO TRY TO GET AN ANSWER TO TRUSTEE 14 RIZZO'S QUESTION. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: COULD I JUST -- JUST FOR 16 CLARIFICATION. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHERE IS THAT IN HERE? 18 CFO BILMONT: THE BASIC SKILLS ALLOCATION AND 19 APPROPRIATION FOR 2010-2011 IS ON PAGE 15. AND IT'S IN 20 THE MIDDLE COLUMN THERE $129,817. 21 I'M JOHN BILMONT, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, THAT 22 WOULD BE THE BASIC ALLOCATION ESTIMATED AT THIS TIME FOR 23 2010-2011 FROM THE STATE. WE SHOULD REMEMBER THOUGH THAT 24 OUR BASIC SKILLS FUNDING IS BOTH UNRESTRICTED AND 25 RESTRICTED AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. JUNE 24, 2010 136 1 AND SO ACTUALLY OUR BASELINE FOR 2 SUPPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS THE TECHNICAL TERM FOR 3 ESSENTIALLY -- IT PRETTY MUCH CONSTITUTES THE BASE THAT 4 THE STATE WOULD HOLD US HARMLESS ON. IT'S RIGHT AROUND 5 3.8 MILLION. THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE PUT INTO BASIC SKILLS 6 EVERY YEAR. 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT HOW DOES THIS COMPARE 8 TO LAST YEAR? 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THEY ARE ADDING -- 10 CFO BILMONT: THE 822,000 THIS YEAR. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO THAT'S ABOUT 130 SOMETHING 12 CLASSES IF YOU DO BY 6,000. 13 CFO BILMONT: BY SIX, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. WE ADDED ABOUT 130 15 SOMETHING CLASSES OF BASIC SKILLS. 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT'S THE BUILD UP 17 BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR? 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: STOP ME IF I'M NOT HELPING, BUT 19 WHAT JOHN WAS JUST SHOWING YOU WAS THE CATEGORICAL 20 ALLOCATION FOR BASIC SKILLS. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 22 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT HIS 23 COMMENT THAT WE SPEND A LOT MORE THAN THAT WHEN YOU LOOK 24 AT HOW MUCH WE SPEND IN THE UNRESTRICTED GENERAL FUND FOR 25 BASIC SKILLS ACTIVITIES. AND THE NUMBER YOU GAVE WAS JUNE 24, 2010 137 1 ALMOST $4 MILLION. 2 CFO BILMONT: YES. 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SO THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF IT 4 THAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT THIS IS THE TOTAL 6 OF -- WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHERE IN THE BUDGET DOES IT 7 SAY HOW MUCH MORE OR LESS WE ARE SPENDING ON THIS? 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO 9 FIND A SINGLE NUMBER IN THE BUDGET LIKE THAT. BUT WE CAN 10 DO THE RESEARCH FOR YOU AND SHOW THAT TO YOU. 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WHY NOT INCLUDE 12 THIS KIND OF THING IN THE BUDGET? 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: FOR THE FINAL BUDGET, WHY 14 DON'T WE INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT'S RELATED TO BASIC 15 SKILLS -- 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: DEFINITELY. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- CLASSES AND ACTUALLY WE 18 CAN ALSO GIVE YOU A HISTORICAL ITEM SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT 19 OTHER YEARS WE HAVE DONE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SHOULD I GO THROUGH MY 21 QUESTIONS OR -- 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU SHOULD DO -- 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LET OTHER 24 BOARD MEMBERS TALK FIRST AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE 25 THEY HAVEN'T PARTICIPATED. JUNE 24, 2010 138 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: DO YOU WANT TO? 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OH, I SAID WE SHOULD PROBABLY 3 LET OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR SAY ABOUT 4 THE BUDGET -- 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- AND THEN HAVE QUESTIONS. 7 THEY HAVEN'T REALLY PARTICIPATED YET, SO -- 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: DOES ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS OR 9 QUESTIONS? 10 OKAY, WE ARE BACK TO YOU. 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE TALKED THROUGHOUT THE 12 YEAR. WE TALKED ABOUT -- I AM JUST TRYING TO GET AT THIS 13 LAST MONTH THE KIND OF BUDGET TENSION BETWEEN CLASSES AND 14 STUDENT SERVICES. AND THE BALANCE BETWEEN THAT, THE STATE 15 CUTTING STUDENT SERVICES MORE HEAVILY THAN CLASSES. AND 16 WE ARE ADDING CLASSES THIS YEAR, AND SO I WANT TO KNOW HOW 17 DOES THE BUDGET EFFECT THE BALANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO 18 SECTIONS, THOSE TWO HALVES OF WHAT WE DO FOR STUDENTS IN 19 GENERAL TERMS? 20 ARE WE SPENDING -- ARE WE HITTING STUDENT 21 SERVICES MORE THAN LAST YEAR? 22 CFO BILMONT: STUDENT SERVICES WILL BE VERY MUCH 23 HELD FLAT AT THE CURRENT LEVEL, FLAT ON. THE AMOUNTS WE 24 ARE BRINGING BACK FROM THE BUDGET ARE GOING FOR CLASSES 25 UNDER THE DISTRIBUTION PATTERNS THAT THE CHANCELLOR JUNE 24, 2010 139 1 DESCRIBED THIS EVENING AND ALSO ON JUNE 8TH, 2010. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 CFO BILMONT: THE BUDGET FOR CLASSES IS 4 DEFINITELY GOING UP. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE AS A 6 BOARD EVER REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT. IF THAT'S WHAT WE 7 WANTED TO DO, AND SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. 8 CFO BILMONT: RELATED TO THAT, TRUSTEE RIZZO, 9 YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ON JUNE 8TH, ABOUT TWO 10 WEEKS AGO, TRUSTEE JACKSON WAS THE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET 11 SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING. TRUSTEE BERG WAS THERE, AND SO WAS 12 TRUSTEE NGO. AND THERE WAS AN EXTENDED DISCUSSION ABOUT 13 TWO AND A HALF HOURS, WHICH IS ON THIS CD. THERE'S LOTS 14 OF TESTIMONY FROM THE CHANCELLOR, AND I THINK IT IS 15 SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAKE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO 16 WANTS TO HEAR IT. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, BUT THE BUDGET 18 COMMITTEE DID NOT FORWARD US ANY KIND OF A RESOLUTION OR 19 ANYTHING, SO HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT? 20 CFO BILMONT: WELL -- 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT WAS A COMMITTEE OF A WHOLE. 22 CFO BILMONT: GOOD QUESTION. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S A COMMITTEE OPENED TO 24 EVERYBODY SITTING HERE. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. I'M SUGGESTING JUNE 24, 2010 140 1 THAT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE COULD HAVE FORWARDED A 2 RESOLUTION TO THE -- 3 CFO BILMONT: YES. 4 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THE BOARD IF IT'S 5 GOING TO BE MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THAT. 6 CFO BILMONT: AGREED. 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. THAT QUESTION 8 WAS ANSWERED. 9 ANOTHER THING I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IS NOT 10 JUST BASIC SKILLS, BUT A LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT 11 IS BEING CUT AND ADDED TO EACH DEPARTMENT. WE ARE NOT 12 DOING A FLAT -- THAT'S OBVIOUS. WE ARE NOT DOING A FLAT 13 CUT ACROSS THE BOARD, SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT'S BEING CUT 14 AND WHO MADE THAT DECISION? 15 CFO BILMONT: SURE. WE DO HAVE THAT 16 INFORMATION. AND WITH THE STATE OF LABOR NEGOTIATIONS AND 17 SOME OF THE THINGS THAT TRANSPIRED TONIGHT, WE CAN 18 ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE NUMBERS THAT ARE FIRMER. 19 WE ALSO DO NEED SOME OF THE DISTRIBUTIONS OF THE CLASS 20 SECTIONS BECAUSE THAT WILL IMPACT, ESPECIALLY ON THE 21 ACADEMIC SIDE, THE LEVEL OF FUNDING IN A DEPARTMENT. 22 SO I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A JULY PRODUCTION. WE 23 COULD DO A MIDYEAR JULY PRODUCTION FOR THAT AND CERTAINLY 24 WE CAN DO IT AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. JUNE 24, 2010 141 1 CFO BILMONT: AND YOU MAY RECALL LAST YEAR, I 2 BELIEVE IT WAS TRUSTEE NGO, THAT ASKED FOR A COMPLETE -- 3 ACTUALLY, IT WAS TRUSTEE MARKS. YOU ASKED FOR A COMPLETE 4 DOWNLOAD OF THE BUDGET WHICH WAS A BOX AND AGAIN A CD. WE 5 COULD DO THAT. 6 BUT THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE, TRUSTEE RIZZO. 7 IT JUST HASN'T BEEN PRODUCED AT THIS POINT. 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. GREAT. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I WOULD JUST SAY I AM 12 HAPPY TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. YOU KNOW, 13 TO CONTINUE TO HAVE AND TALK ABOUT THESE CONVERSATIONS. I 14 MEAN THIS IS KIND OF WHY WE HAVE A COMMITTEE OF A WHOLE. 15 AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN 16 ACTUALLY DISCUSS THESE IN DEPTH ABOUT HAVING IT ONLINE, 17 ABOUT SEEING IT SLICED UP INTO DEPARTMENTS, ABOUT ALL THE 18 SPECIFIC SMALL DETAILS ABOUT THE BUDGET. I MEAN THAT IS 19 WHAT THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT FOR. THAT'S WHY I 20 SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY STRUCTURE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL -- 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A 23 BUDGET COMMITTEE, SO WE CAN HAVE THESE TYPES OF 24 CONVERSATIONS SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO A BOARD, WE ARE 25 ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOME -- YOU KNOW, HAVE HAD THAT JUNE 24, 2010 142 1 DISCUSSION SO WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND ACTUALLY MOVE 2 FORWARD WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE BOARD. 3 I MEAN WE'VE HAD ALMOST -- I MEAN WE'VE HAD 4 THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 5 AND WE'VE HAD THESE IN DEPTH CONVERSATIONS. I MEAN WE'VE 6 HAD TWO HOURS OF HARD CONVERSATIONS. AND TRUSTEE NGO IS A 7 VERY GOOD LITIGATOR. HE ASKED THE VERY HARD QUESTIONS. 8 AND THEY ANSWERED THEM TO A T. 9 I MEAN WE ARE CONTINUING TO TALK ABOUT THE 10 PRELIMINARY BUDGET, BUT I MEAN WE HAVE A ROBUST COMMITTEE 11 STRUCTURE. AND I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY ADEQUATELY 12 ADDRESSED A LOT OF THESE ISSUES FOR A PRELIMINARY BUDGET. 13 I MEAN I JUST HAVE TO GET BACK TO A POINT WHERE 14 WE'VE HAD THE MOST TRANSPARENT BOARD INVOLVED BUDGET 15 PROCESS THAT I'VE -- THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD 16 HAVE EVER SEEN AND FOLKS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE 17 THIS BUDGET WITH THESE TOUGH DECISIONS. 18 AND I MEAN IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO AT LEAST 19 RESPECT THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO 20 HAVING JUST TWO BOARD MEETINGS, ONE BEING A WORK SESSION 21 AND ONE BEING A BOARD SESSION. 22 I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT BECAUSE I DON'T 23 LIKE HAVING TO GIVE UP MY TUESDAYS TO HAVE A COMMITTEE 24 STRUCTURE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE SAME COMMITTEE NOW. 25 WE ARE BASICALLY HAVING A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WHICH WE JUNE 24, 2010 143 1 SHOULD HAVE HAD ON JUNE 8TH. AND SO I AM JUST A LITTLE 2 FRUSTRATED BY THAT. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I RESPOND, PRESIDENT 4 MARKS. 5 I WAS AT EVERY BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING SAY ONE. 6 AND YOU ALSO MISSED ONE, TRUSTEE JACKSON. I DID NOT HEAR 7 THE ANSWERS TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS. I ASKED SOME OF 8 THESE SEVERAL TIMES. AND WE HEARD THAT WE WERE GOING TO 9 GET THEM. SO I AM NOW ASKING THEM NOW BECAUSE I HAVE 10 NEVER GOT THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL OF INFORMATION IN ANY OF 11 THE BUDGET COMMITTEE HEARINGS THAT I ATTENDED, SO THAT'S 12 WHY I AM ASKING THEM NOW. 13 I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE IF YOU THINK IT'S TAKING UP 14 TOO MUCH TIME, BUT -- 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID AT ALL. 16 I SAID ABOUT RESPECTING THE COMMITTEE PROCESS. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS AT EVERY COMMITTEE 18 MEETING SAY ONE, JUST AS YOU WERE. AND I HAVE NOT GOTTEN 19 RESPONSES TO THESE QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS 20 INFORMATION IS. THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING IT. IF I HAD THE 21 INFORMATION, I WOULDN'T ASK THE QUESTIONS. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, YOU BOTH MADE YOUR 23 POINT. SO GO AHEAD IF YOU WOULD. 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THE DEPARTMENTS, WE 25 WILL GET INFORMATION ABOUT -- JUNE 24, 2010 144 1 CFO BILMONT: YES. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- DEPARTMENTAL LEVELS 3 BEFORE THE FINAL BUDGET APPROVAL BEFORE THE FINAL, RIGHT. 4 MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT JUST NOW EITHER, BUT 5 WHAT IS THE CRITERIA USED TO DETERMINE WHAT DEPARTMENTS 6 WILL GET OR NOT GET? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS? 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE 8 CHANCELLOR (INAUDIBLE) -- 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- ACADEMIC (INAUDIBLE). 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I ASSUME THERE'S 12 SOME CRITERIA. IS IT NEED, STUDENT NEED, OVERBOOKING OR 13 WHATEVER? 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PART OF IT IS THAT WE WERE 15 GIVEN DIRECTION BY THE BOARD TO LOOK AT TWO THINGS I 16 BELIEVE. ONE WAS TO ADD BASIC SKILLS CLASSES, WHICH I 17 THINK WAS PART OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING TOWARD. THE OTHER 18 WAS TO DEAL WITH THE RESTORATION. WE TOOK A 6.3 PERCENT 19 CUT IN CLASSES FOR FALL AND SPRING. AND SO IT WAS 20 UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WOULD RESTORE SOME OF THOSE CLASSES 21 THAT WE CUT IN FALL AND SPRING. AND WE ARE BASING IT UPON 22 STUDENT DEMANDMENT, THIS DEMAND, THE DSS DECISION SUPPORT 23 SYSTEM. IT'S LOOKING AT WHICH COURSES ARE ACTUALLY -- 24 LIKE THE ANATOMY COURSES ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU 25 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ANATOMY COURSES, IT GETS TO BE REALLY JUNE 24, 2010 145 1 PROBLEMATIC FOR THE NURSING PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS MANY 2 OTHER PROGRAMS. SO WE LOOK AT THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: KIND OF BOTTLE NECK 4 COURSES. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: EXACTLY. WE BRING IN ALL 6 OF THE ACADEMIC -- THE VICE CHANCELLOR BRINGS IN ALL OF 7 THE DEPARTMENT CHAIRS AND DEANS TO DISCUSS WHAT THEIR NEED 8 IS ACROSS THE DIVISIONS. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND SO ON THE BASIS OF THAT 11 KIND OF INFORMATION, WE TRY TO RESTORE WHAT WE CAN 12 RESTORE. 13 ON THE SIDE OF THE BASIC SKILLS, IT'S BEEN 14 PRIMARILY PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL CLASSES, MOSTLY IN MATH 15 AND ENGLISH. EVEN THOUGH WE GET A LOT OF HITS FOR OTHER 16 THINGS, WE DETERMINED THAT MATH AND ENGLISH IS WHERE WE 17 SHOULD PUT OUR MONEY IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL CLASSES, NOT 18 RESTORATION, BUT ADDITIONAL CLASSES. AND THAT'S BEEN 19 PRIMARILY WHERE WE'VE RECOMMENDED TO HAVE MORE CLASSES. 20 SO IT'S REALLY DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT, LOOKING 21 AT THE HISTORICAL TRANSIT PATTERNS, LOOKING AT WHAT THE 22 STUDENT DEMAND IS IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS, AND MAKING THOSE 23 DECISIONS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT CHAIRS AND 24 WITH THE DEANS OF THOSE DIVISIONS. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. JUNE 24, 2010 146 1 HAVE WE CONSIDERED -- I'VE ASKED THIS ONE BEFORE 2 TOO. HAVE WE CONSIDERED ELIMINATING PROGRAMS? 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, WE HAVE CONSIDERED 4 ELIMINATING PROGRAMS, BUT MOSTLY IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS 5 THAT'S CONSIDERED TO BE AN AREA OF WHICH THE DEPARTMENT 6 CHAIRS HAVE BEEN THE ONES THAT WE TALK TO A LOT ABOUT 7 WHAT'S GOING ON AND ITS ELIMINATION USUALLY HAS KIND OF 8 A -- YOU CAN SEE IT COMING I WOULD SAY SEVERAL YEARS IN 9 ADVANCE. SO IF A PROGRAM IS DECLINING, THEN THERE'S BIG 10 EFFORT TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THE DECLINE AND TO ANTICIPATE 11 WHETHER WE SHOULD ACTUALLY OFFERING LESS AND LESS OF THAT. 12 AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE THE ENGINEERING 13 DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS REALLY IN A STEEP DECLINE. NOW IF 14 YOU AT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT NOW VERSUS WHAT IT WAS A 15 DECADE AGO, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 10 TO 15 PERCENT, MAYBE 16 20 PERCENT OF WHAT IT WAS A DECADE AGO. 17 UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE ALSO SEEING A DECLINE IN 18 THE NONCREDIT ESL DEPARTMENT, WHICH I SAID BEFORE, WE WERE 19 GETTING 13,700 FTES. WE ARE LUCKY TO GET 11,700 FTES NOW. 20 IT'S GOING TO DECLINE FURTHER. THERE ARE A LOT OF FORCES 21 THAT ARE CAUSING THAT DECLINE. THE IMMIGRATION PATTERNS 22 HAVE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY IN TERMS OF PEOPLE COMING IN 23 AND NEEDING CITIZENSHIP AND ESL CLASSES. 24 AND SO I WOULD PROJECT THAT IF YOU LOOK FIVE TO 25 TEN YEARS AHEAD, YOU PROBABLY WOULD SEE ANOTHER TWO TO JUNE 24, 2010 147 1 3,000 FTES COMING OFF OF THAT, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE 2 TREND LINES AS FAR AS DECLINE IS ONE OF THE THINGS. 3 WE'VE HAD NOT MUCH HISTORY AT THIS COLLEGE OVER 4 THE LAST 35 OR 40 YEARS OF ACTUALLY JUST GETTING RID OF AN 5 ENTIRE PROGRAM. 6 NOW THE LAST ONE THAT I CAN RECALL WAS THE WATCH 7 REPAIR PROGRAM, WHICH WAS COMPLETELY ELIMINATED. AND I 8 THINK THAT MUST HAVE BEEN 15 YEARS AGO. 9 CFO BILMONT: BEFORE MY TIME. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: COURT REPORTING. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: COURT REPORTING. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: I REMEMBER THAT. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: COURT REPORTING, YES, THAT 14 WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE. WE DID STOP DOING COURT REPORTING, 15 WHICH IS THE ASPECT OF THE BUSINESS DEPARTMENT. 16 WE ALSO HAD A DENTAL -- WHAT IS IT CALLED DENTAL 17 REPAIR PROGRAM. AND THAT ONE STOPPED BECAUSE WE HAD ONE 18 FULL-TIME FACULTY MEMBER WHO RETIRED AT WHICH POINT 19 LOOKING AT THE INDUSTRIES TRENDS, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS 20 NO REAL DEMAND IN THE U.S. ANYMORE FOR DENTAL REPAIR. 21 EVERYTHING WAS BEING SHIPPED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BEING DONE 22 FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST. 23 SO THERE'S A HANDFUL OF EXAMPLES THAT WERE 24 EITHER PLANNED OR UNPLANNED, BUT MOST OF IT WAS DRIVEN BY 25 THE DEMAND THAT WE SEE AND WHAT THE MARKET FORCES ARE IN JUNE 24, 2010 148 1 TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT FOR STUDENTS. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND AS FAR AS STUDENT 3 SERVICES GO, YOU SAID, "IT WAS FLAT." BUT WITHIN THAT 4 FLAT SPACE, ARE WE ADDING OR CUTTING STUDENT SERVICES TO 5 PARTICULAR ONES AND ADDING TO SOME AND CUTTING OTHERS? 6 HOW ARE WE DOING WITH THAT? 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT 8 THE RATIO IS ABOUT 10 TO MAYBE 15 TO 1 IN TERMS OF 9 RESTORATION, IN TERMS OF STUDENT SERVICES. IT IS NOT 10 100 PERCENT FLAT. I THINK THAT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 11 FOR THE NEXT YEAR 2010-2011 IS .8 FTE OF STUDENT SERVICES 12 BEING ADDED BACK, .8 WHICH MEANS THAT THAT'S ABOUT 24 13 HOURS PER WEEK OF STUDENT SERVICES. 14 BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE 15 ACADEMIC SIDE, IT'S MANY TIMES MORE THAN THAT IN TERMS OF 16 ADDING BACK. WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD 17 MONEY FOR SOME OF THE STUDENT SERVICES WE CUT. WE'VE CUT 18 40 PERCENT IN MATRICULATION. ALMOST EVERY PENNY OF THE 19 40 PERCENT CUT IN MATRICULATION WAS DESIGNATED FOR STUDENT 20 SERVICES. SO WHEN THEY CUT THAT 40 PERCENT, WE TRIED TO 21 TAKE MONEY FROM OTHER SOURCES TO HELP THE STUDENT 22 SERVICES, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE UP THE WHOLE 23 DIFFERENCE. SO WITH CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, WE'VE ADDED 24 BACK .8 FTE, WHICH I THINK IS ON THE FORM THAT WE MAY HAVE 25 PASSED OUT TO YOU FOR THE COMING YEAR 2010-2011. JUNE 24, 2010 149 1 WE JUST HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ENOUGH 2 RESOURCES TO DO MUCH MORE THAN THAT FOR STUDENT SERVICES. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE 4 GOOD TO SEE A FINER VIEW OF THAT AS TO WHAT IS BEING 5 PROPOSED FOR ADDITION, RATHER THAN ALL STUDENT SERVICES 6 BROKEN UP. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE WILL TRY TO DO SOME MOCKUPS 8 IN ADVANCE SO THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE WHOLE BOARD AND 9 YOU CAN GET SOME FEEDBACK AS TO WHETHER THAT'S THE KIND OF 10 INFORMATION YOU ARE LOOKING FOR FOR THE FINAL BUDGET. 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK 12 YOU. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: CAN I ADD ONE THING? 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 15 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THERE'S A PROGRAM CALLED, 17 "THE TULAY PROGRAM," AND IT'S A RETENTION PROGRAM, WHICH I 18 BELIEVE THE BUDGET FOR THAT THIS COMING HERE IS IN THE 19 NEIGHBORHOOD OF $90,000 THAT WASN'T THERE IN THE PRIOR 20 YEAR. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE TOOK OUT OF THE OTHER 21 RETENTION PROGRAMS, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS. 22 YOU MAY RECALL OR YOU MAY FIND ON THE BOARD 23 AGENDA TONIGHT, F RESOLUTIONS WHICH ACTUALLY SIMPLY MOVE 24 THREE OF THE DIRECTORS OF THE RETENTION PROGRAMS OVER TO 25 OTHER PROGRAMS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF JUNE 24, 2010 150 1 ADMINISTRATIVELY WITHOUT ACTUALLY COSTING THE DISTRICT 2 REALLY ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THAT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY 3 ABOUT $500,000 PLUS IN TERMS OF THE SAVINGS. SO WE ARE 4 TAKING $100,000 TO TRY TO ENHANCE THE TULAY PROGRAM. 5 WE ARE GETTING RID OF ADMINISTRATORS BEING IN 6 CHARGE OF THESE PROGRAMS AND HAVING IT MORE BE 7 COORDINATORS IN CHARGE OF IT. SO IT'S A SHIFTING OF 8 DOLLARS, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT AN INCREASED EXPENDITURE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SEE. THANK YOU. 10 THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'VE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, 12 AND I WANT TO MOVE THROUGH THEM AS FAST AS I CAN. 13 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK ON PAGE 5 OF THE BUDGET BOOK, 14 I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW THAT '97 -- '99 BOND. AM I READING 15 THIS CORRECTLY? THERE IS STILL $4 MILLION LEFT FROM THOSE 16 BONDS TO BE SPENT? 17 YOU CAN ANSWER ANOTHER TIME. 18 I GUESS MY BIGGER QUESTION IS YOU HAVE A NUMBER 19 OF LINES HERE. THIS IS THE OVERALL DISTRICT BUDGET. YOU 20 HAVE A NUMBER OF LINES FOR CAPITAL BUDGETS, DEPARTMENTAL 21 ACCOUNTS, GENERAL TRUSTS, ASSOCIATED STUDENTS, AND 22 SCHOLARSHIP, AND TRUST FUNDS, AND ACCOMMODATION ACCOUNTS 23 THAT ARE SHOWING UP AS THE FUND BALANCE, RATHER THAN 24 NECESSARILY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL BE SPENT DURING 25 THE YEAR. SO IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE MIXING UP THINGS THAT JUNE 24, 2010 151 1 AREN'T EQUIVALENT. 2 WELL, SOME OF THESE ARE REVENUE BUDGETS WHERE WE 3 KNOW THERE'S A BIG REVENUE ALLOCATION COMING IN LIKE THE 4 UNRESTRICTED FUND OR, FOR EXAMPLE, FUND TIMES 12 THE 5 RESTRICTED FUNDS. 6 BUT IN CASES WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 7 DEPARTMENTAL ACCOUNTS, THE ANNUAL REVENUE STREAM IS NOT 8 ALWAYS CERTAIN. WE JUST APPROPRIATE THE FUND BALANCE TO 9 BEGIN TO START THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THEN AS 10 REVENUE COMES IN, THOSE BUDGETS ARE AUGMENTED. AND THAT'S 11 THE REASON WHY SOME OF THESE ARE FUND BALANCES AND SOME 12 ARE -- 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT SEEMS ODD TO COMBINE THEM. 14 I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. 15 I ALSO SEEM TO RECOLLECT THAT ONE OF THE 16 FINDINGS OF MGT AND THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT, I THINK IT WAS 17 THE MGT. 18 CFO BILMONT: YES. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: WAS THAT THE BOARD SHOULD BE 20 APPROVING -- 21 CFO BILMONT: A CAPITAL BUDGET. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- A CAPITAL BUDGET AND NOT 23 JUST -- 24 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S RIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- THE OPERATING BUDGET. AND JUNE 24, 2010 152 1 SO THIS IS NOT TAKING CARE OF THAT. IT MAY BE SOMEWHERE 2 ELSE IN THE BUDGET, BUT I DON'T THINK SO. 3 CFO BILMONT: IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE 4 PRELIMINARY BUDGET, THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS MISSING. IF YOU 5 LOOK AT LAST YEAR'S FINAL IT WAS THERE. BUT IN THE 6 PRELIMINARY DUE TO THE TIME FRAME WE HAD AVAILABLE, WE DID 7 NOT PRODUCE ONE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 9 CFO BILMONT: WE CERTAINLY COULD AS A 10 SUPPLEMENTAL TO IT OR -- 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: I AM JUST TRYING TO REFLECT -- 12 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- WHAT THE AUDITOR SAID. 14 CFO BILMONT: NO, YOU ARE RIGHT. VERY GOOD. 15 GOOD OBSERVATION. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND THEN ON PAGE 14, THIS IS A 17 QUESTION I'VE ASKED BEFORE AND I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN HOW 18 TO GET PASSED MY CONCERN. 19 THIS IS ABOUT RESTRICTIVE FUNDS FOR THE MOST 20 PART, AND IT TALKS ABOUT A CARRY FORWARD IN THE FIRST 21 COLUMN -- ACTUALLY, THE SECOND COLUMN. AND THEN IF 22 THERE'S ANY MONEY EXPECTED TO COME IN THIS YEAR AND THEN 23 WHAT THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION IS FOR 2010-2011. BUT I 24 STILL CAN'T TELL FROM THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, FEDERAL SOURCES 25 ON PAGE 14, IT SAYS, "$13.9 MILLION IS WHAT IT ADDS TO. JUNE 24, 2010 153 1 CFO BILMONT: YES. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: BUT MY EXPECTATION IS THAT 3 $13.9 MILLION IS NOT TO BE SPENT IN THIS COMING FISCAL 4 YEAR, THAT SOME SMALLER AMOUNT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE 5 SPENT AND THEN SOME OF THAT THEN CARRIED FORWARD INTO THE 6 FOLLOWING YEAR. BUT IT'S NOT BROKEN OUT THAT WAY, SO IT'S 7 VERY HARD FOR ME TO TELL IN THE COLUMN OF THE CARRY 8 FORWARD WHY THAT MONEY HASN'T BEEN SPENT, IF IT'S MOSTLY 9 ABOUT RESTRICTIONS OR CAPACITY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. 10 AND THEN ON A APPROPRIATION FOR 2010-2011, I 11 KNOW IT'S NOT $13.9 MILLION. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT 12 IS, SO I FIND THAT HARD TO READ AND KIND OF HARD TO 13 ACCEPT. 14 CFO BILMONT: IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION THAT 15 YOU'VE ASKED. AND I GUESS WE CAN MODIFY THE FORMAT SO 16 THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE TWO YEARS -- A ROLLING TWO 17 YEARS. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. YOU HAVE AN ASTERISK ON 19 THESE PAGES TOO. AND I'M NOT CERTAIN I SAW ANYWHERE WHAT 20 THAT ASTERISK MEANS? 21 CFO BILMONT: I'M SORRY. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT'S ON THE TOP OF THE "FISCAL 23 YEAR 2010-2011 RENEWAL AWARD." AND I BELIEVE IT IS IN 24 OTHER PLACES, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN. 25 CFO BILMONT: I'M SORRY, TRUSTEE MARKS. OH, THE JUNE 24, 2010 154 1 ASTERISK ON -- 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: TOP COLUMN, THE COLUMN HEADING 3 "FISCAL YEAR 2010-2011 RENEWAL AWARD." IT'S NOT A BIG 4 THING. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT 5 THAT MEANS. 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE'S NO FOOTNOTE THAT 7 SAYS WHAT THE ASTERISK MEANS. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. 9 CFO BILMONT: OKAY. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SEVERAL ITEMS IN THE 11 CHART HAVE AN ASTERISK. 12 CFO BILMONT: I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I FIX THAT, 13 AND I WILL E-MAIL YOU. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: PAGE 15, UNDER THE "STATE 15 SOURCES." THERE ARE THREE LINES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007 -- 16 CFO BILMONT: CORRECT. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- 109 FISCAL YEAR 2007. AND 18 I'M WONDERING WHY AT THIS POINT IN FISCAL YEAR 2010-2011, 19 AND I'M NOT CERTAIN -- DID YOU SAY 2011 OR DID YOU SAY 20 2010? 21 CFO BILMONT: IT WOULD BE FISCAL YEAR -- I LIKE 22 TO SAY 2010-2011. IT WILL BE FISCAL YEAR 2011. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS 24 WHY THIS MONEY ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, NOT QUITE, HASN'T 25 BEEN SPENT. JUNE 24, 2010 155 1 CFO BILMONT: SURE. ACTUALLY, PETER AND I 2 LOOKED AT THAT YESTERDAY AND EARLIER TODAY. THESE WERE 3 AMOUNTS THAT WERE PUT FORWARD BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA 4 FOR INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS. 5 ONE WAS A GENERAL PURPOSE BLOCK GRANT 6 REAPPORTIONMENT AND THE OTHER ONE WAS A SETTLE UP. AND 7 THEY ESSENTIALLY REPRESENT MONIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN 8 APPROPRIATED YET AND THE DISTRICT HAS SAVED THEM. THEY'VE 9 CERTAINLY SPENT SOME OF THEM EVERY YEAR, ESPECIALLY TO 10 SUPPORT THE LIBRARY. THE SB-360 -- THE SB-1133 IS MONEY 11 THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING TO SUPPORT THE LIBRARY BECAUSE 12 THEY LOST THEIR BLOCK GRANT ENTIRELY AND THE 2007 TO 2009 13 INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPLIES AND MATERIAL FOR THE LIBRARY WILL 14 PROBABLY GO IN 2010-2011. AND THE $701,944, THAT WILL 15 PROBABLY GO IN 2010-2011 ALSO OR EVEN AT THE END OF THIS 16 YEAR AS A DIRECT TRANSFER IN TO PROTECT THE DRAW DOWN 17 UNDER THE BOARD DESIGNATED RESERVE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK I'M POINTING OUT A 19 DETAIL. 20 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: BUT THIS KIND OF ILLUSTRATES A 22 POINT OF HOW YOU DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE GOING TO 23 USE MONEY IN A CERTAIN YEAR VERSUS SKIPPING THAT YEAR AND 24 THAT PERHAPS -- I THINK IT'S NOT A PHILOSOPHICAL ONE. 25 CFO BILMONT: NO. JUNE 24, 2010 156 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT IS A DECISION THAT'S MADE 2 FINANCIALLY. AND IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND JUST FROM 3 READING THIS WHAT THAT MEANS. 4 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: FURTHER DOWN UNDER 6 "FOUNDATIONS," THERE'S A NEGATIVE NUMBER FOR THE GATES 7 FOUNDATION. 8 CFO BILMONT: OH -- 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: A NEGATIVE OF 259,000. 10 CFO BILMONT: RIGHT. IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, 11 THEY ARE REIMBURSING US IN ARREARS AND SO IT ESSENTIALLY 12 REPRESENTS A RECEIVABLE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 14 ON PAGE 16, I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE THREE 15 CONTRACTS WITH CALIFORNIA PACIFIC MEDICAL CENTER. AND WE 16 MADE A BIG POINT AT ONE POINT OF NOT WANTING CPMC MONEY. 17 AND WE ARE OKAY WITH THIS? 18 I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 19 ON THE TOP OF PAGE 17, THE "RESTRICTIVE 20 PROGRAMMING." IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN IT SAYS, "FB." I 21 DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 22 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S FUND BALANCE. 23 AND I WILL MAKE SURE THE FOOTNOTES GET CHANGED 24 TO REFLECT THAT. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND I THINK I HAVE JUST ONE JUNE 24, 2010 157 1 MORE QUESTION ABOUT THIS. ON PAGE 18, "FEE BASED PROGRAMS 2 CHINATOWN RENTAL PROPERTIES." 3 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT WAS $115,000 -- OH, THAT'S 5 CARRIED FORWARD. THAT'S NOT -- 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. THAT'S MONEY FROM WHEN 7 WE OWNED THE COLOMBO BUILDING -- 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: THE COLOMBO BUILDING. 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- AND WE WERE RENTING IT OUT 10 AND THE PARKING LOT FOR A WHILE. AT ONE TIME IT WAS A 11 MUCH, MUCH LARGER NUMBER. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON 14 THINGS RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. 15 I WANTED TO POINT ONE OTHER THING OUT JUST 16 BRIEFLY. SOME OF THE CARRY FORWARD ON THE FEDERAL MONEY 17 IS DUE TO THE DIFFERENCE IN FISCAL YEAR BETWEEN US AND THE 18 FEDS. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 20 I HAD E-MAILED TO THE CHANCELLOR AND TO MEMBERS 21 OF THE PLANNING AND BUDGETING COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD A 22 NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. AND I AM GOING TO ASK THEM, BUT I'M 23 NOT GOING TO ASK FOR AN ANSWER JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT 24 THERE ARE THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE DONE. 25 I WAS LOOKING BACK AT THE TRANSCRIPTS SINCE I JUNE 24, 2010 158 1 WAS ON THE BOARD, AND I CAN GO BACK ONLY TO 2003. AND 2 I'VE BEEN ASKING THESE SAME QUESTIONS PRETTY MUCH SINCE 3 2003. AND I BELIEVE I STARTED ASKING THEM IN 2001 WHEN I 4 GOT ON THE BOARD. 5 HOW DOES THE BUDGET RELATE TO THE ANNUAL PLAN? 6 ARE THEIR MEASUREMENTS OR GOALS FOR THE ANNUAL PLAN AND 7 THE BUDGET? ARE THERE RIGHT CLASSES AT THE RIGHT PLACES 8 BEING FUNDED? HOW DID PROGRAM REVIEW INFLUENCE THE 9 BUDGET? HOW WERE STUDENTS INVOLVED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS? 10 BEYOND BALANCING THE NUMBERS AS THIS BUDGET 11 DOES, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS, COURSES 12 AND OTHER THINGS AT CITY COLLEGE? AND WHAT'S THE IMPACT 13 ON STUDENTS WITH THIS BUDGET? 14 IT'S JUST VERY HARD FOR ME TO SEE FROM WHAT WE 15 ARE GIVEN. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE HIDING ANYTHING. 16 IT'S JUST NOT REVEALED. SO I WILL VOTE FOR THIS 17 PRELIMINARY BUDGET, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE 18 SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT IN SEPTEMBER. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: COULD I MAKE SUGGESTION, MAYBE 20 SOMETHING WE ALSO COULD ADD TO THE FINAL BOOK WOULD BE 21 SOME DIRECT ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS RAISED BY BOARD MEMBERS, 22 KIND OF A "Q" AND "A" IN THE BACK. AND WE CAN TRY TO GET 23 THAT IN TIME FOR THE NEXT ONE. BUT WE NEED THE QUESTIONS 24 AND TIME TO DO THAT. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I JUNE 24, 2010 159 1 APPRECIATE THAT. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: ARE YOU ANSWERING SOMETHING? 4 CFO BILMONT: I WOULD -- 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE 6 ANSWERS. 7 CFO BILMONT: THERE YOU GO. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER 10 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR FROM MEMBERS OF 11 THE PUBLIC? 12 I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY CARDS ON THE BUDGET, SO 13 IF NOT -- 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I -- 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: OH, SORRY. TRUSTEE JACKSON. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: FINALLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO 17 SAY IN TERMS OF THE CPMC STUFF, CLEARLY WE'VE MADE A POINT 18 OF NOT WANTING THEIR INVOLVEMENT SO THAT SHOULD JUST BE 19 REFLECTED -- 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- IN THE FINAL BUDGET. 22 AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MARKS, 23 FOR POINTING THAT PIECE OUT. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT. JUNE 24, 2010 160 1 AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHEN I TALKED ABOUT 2 NO LAYOFFS, I CLEARLY MEANT FULL-TIME FACULTY AND 3 FULL-TIME CLASSIFIEDS, NOT -- OF COURSE, OUR PART-TIMERS 4 HAVE TAKEN A HELL OF A HIT. BUT I DID MEAN FULL TIME AND 5 THAT'S STILL CLARIFIES THE FACT THAT OTHER INSTITUTIONS 6 LAID OFF THEIR FULL TIME WORKERS. SO I JUST WANTED TO 7 CLARIFY THOSE TWO THINGS. 8 AND SO THE CPMC ISSUES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 9 RECTIFIED IN SOME SORT OF MANNER IN THE FINAL BUDGET. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 12 POINTING THAT OUT. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE WONG. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE BOARD 16 NEEDS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A TENTATIVE BUDGET. 17 AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT THE BUDGET 18 COMMITTEE HAS DONE. AND I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE -- I 19 MEAN WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS FOR A WHOLE HOUR NOW AND THE 20 REALITY IS THAT THERE WILL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO 21 REVISIT, TO REFINE THIS BUDGET. AND IT WILL PROBABLY GO 22 BACK TO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE 23 WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE. 24 BUT, AGAIN, A REMINDER THAT THE BUDGET REQUIRES 25 A TWO-THIRDS VOTE FOR THE RESERVE FUND TO BE TRANSFERRED. JUNE 24, 2010 161 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND I'M 3 ENCOURAGING THE BOARD TO SUPPORT THIS TENTATIVE BUDGET 4 BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO APPROVE IT SO THAT THE 5 OPERATIONS OF THE DISTRICT CAN MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE IF 6 IT IS NOT APPROVED, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF CERTAIN 7 ACTIONS ARE TAKEN THAT INDIVIDUALS AND ADMINISTRATORS WILL 8 BE PERSONALLY LIABLE -- OR CAN BE. 9 AGAIN, I'M GETTING A SENSE WE WILL PASS THIS 10 TENTATIVE BUDGET, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS YOU 11 KNOW IS A BIT CONCERNED IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION THAT IT 12 WAS GOING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE A DISTRICT TO RUN 13 AND THAT IT IS A TENTATIVE BUDGET, AND WE NEED TO PASS IT 14 BY TWO-THIRDS VOTE. THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO 18 JUST ADD THAT WHILE THE -- TO ANSWER PRESIDENT MARKS OR 19 ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP ON TRUSTEE MARKS' QUESTION. 20 WHILE THE STUDENT INVOLVEMENT IN TERMS OF BUDGET 21 PROCESS, IT COULD DEFINITELY -- WE COULD USE A LOT MORE 22 INVOLVEMENT TO THE INSIDE OF IT. I DO APPRECIATE THE 23 ADMINISTRATION'S EFFORT THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR FOR HAVING 24 AN OPEN DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE A MEETING CALLED TO THE 25 STUDENT WITH VICE CHANCELLOR PETER GOLDSTEIN AND CFO JOHN JUNE 24, 2010 162 1 BILMONT PRESENT, AS WELL AS THE CHANCELLOR TO ANSWER 2 QUESTIONS AND MADE IT AWARE OF OUR BUDGET SITUATION WITH 3 THE STUDENTS. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT EFFORT. I AM 4 LOOKING FORWARD TO ONGOING DISCUSSION ON THAT. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 6 TRUSTEE WONG. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: I JUST HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. 8 YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE BEEN ASKING FOR MANY, MANY 9 YEARS, I THINK PRESIDENT MARKS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HELP IF 10 MAY BE YOU GIVE A SENSE WHAT KIND OF CONFIGURATION YOU ARE 11 EXPECTING TO SEE FROM ADMINISTRATION ABOUT HOW THIS IS 12 GOING TO IMPACT STUDENTS. 13 SOME OF IT IS -- MAYBE IN THE TERMS OF THE 14 PERSPECTIVE OF ADMINISTRATION IN THEIR DAY TO DAY, IT 15 COULD BE AMORPHIC AND SO PERHAPS -- BECAUSE THOSE ARE GOOD 16 QUESTIONS. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S MY PLAN. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. 19 YOU'VE BEEN ASKING THEM FOR SO MANY YEARS. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT PERHAPS IF YOU COULD 22 FACILITATE HOW THOSE ANSWERS OR HOW YOU PERCEIVE THOSE 23 ANSWERS SHOULD BE, IT MIGHT HELP IT TO MOVE IT ALONG -- 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. YEAH, I KNOW -- 25 TRUSTEE WONG: -- FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. JUNE 24, 2010 163 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, YEAH, THAT'S MY 2 INTENSION. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 5 TRUSTEE RIZZO. 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG, THERE'S 7 CERTAIN THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF WHICH I 8 ASKED JUST MORE LINES WITH NUMBERS IN THEM. YOU KNOW, 9 DEPARTMENTS THAT KIND OF THING AND DELTAS FROM LAST YEAR, 10 SO I HOPE THAT WOULD BE IN THE FINAL BUDGET. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: HOPEFULLY, WE ARE JUST GETTING A 12 LOT OF NODDING HEADS, AND WE ARE ACTUALLY SEEING THESE 13 CHANGES. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S GREAT. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 16 CFO BILMONT: WE ARE WRITING IT DOWN. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. SO STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 FANG, YOUR VOTE ON B1(A), PLEASE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B1(A), 21 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 22 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 164 1 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 5 B1(A) PASSES. 6 NOW LET'S SEE IF WE COULD REALLY ZOOM THROUGH. 7 WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF HERE. LET'S SEE HOW FAST WE CAN DO 8 IT. 9 CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON B1, PLEASE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG; 13 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 14 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD OR THE 15 PUBLIC ON B1? 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: B1(A) OR -- 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: B1. B1(A) WAS THE BUDGET. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OH, OH. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU WILL NOTE IN THE 20 PARENTHESIS THE COMMITTEE HAS FORWARDED THINGS AND HOW 21 THEY FORWARDED THEM. 22 SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B1, 25 PLEASE SAY "AYE." JUNE 24, 2010 165 1 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 9 B1 PASSES. 10 MOTION FOR B2, PLEASE. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 16 ANY DISCUSSION ON B2? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): OH, AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE'LL GET IT DOWN. 21 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR B2, PLEASE SAY, "AYE". 22 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 166 1 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 5 B2 PASSES. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: B3, IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION 7 FOR B3, PLEASE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 12 FANG. 13 ANY DISCUSSION ON B3? 14 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B3, 17 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? JUNE 24, 2010 167 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NAY. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: B3 PASSES. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M "NAY" ON THAT ONE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M SORRY? 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M "NAY." 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: SAY IT AGAIN, I DIDN'T HEAR 7 WHAT YOU SAID. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M "NAY." 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: ON B3. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YES. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, LET'S NOTE THAT TRUSTEE 12 JACKSON IS "NO" ON B3. 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT REQUIRES A UNANIMOUS VOTE 14 OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO LET'S -- IF PEOPLE DON'T 16 MIND FOREGOING ANY KIND OF FORMAL PROCESS, CAN WE JUST ASK 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON TO SPEAK TO THIS RESOLUTION. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S FINE. I'M JUST GENERALLY 19 SICK AND TIRED OF CHANGE ORDERS AND -- 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: TRUSTEE JACKSON, WE DON'T DO 21 CHANGE ORDERS ON PURPOSE. CHANGE ORDERS COME UP -- 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- I UNDERSTAND -- 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: -- AS THE CONSTRUCTION 24 PROGRESSES AND THIS ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE ADA PROJECT. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M SICK OF IT. I UNDERSTAND. JUNE 24, 2010 168 1 AND I UNDERSTAND THE ADA. BUT WHEN YOU SET A BUDGET, WE 2 JUST NEED TO SET THAT AMOUNT TO THE FIGURE THAT WE ARE 3 GOING TO MAKE THE AMOUNT AT. I JUST HAVE THAT SIMPLE 4 BUDGET -- 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I DON'T CARE IF FOLKS 8 SHAKE HEADS. I DON'T CARE OF FOLKS LOOK AT ME. WHEN YOU 9 SET A BUDGET FOR SOMETHING, I HAVE A GENERAL EXPECTATION. 10 THE PUBLIC HAS A GENERAL EXPECTATION THAT THAT NUMBER THAT 11 WE SET THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO COST, THAT THAT'S HOW 12 MUCH THE PROJECT IS GOING TO COST BECAUSE IT IS NOT OUR 13 MONEY. IT'S NOT JUST THIS DISTRICT'S MONEY. IT'S 14 ACTUALLY THE PUBLIC'S MONEY. 15 AND SO I JUST HAVE THAT -- I'M HAPPY TO VOTE FOR 16 IT IF I COULD MOVE IT FORWARD. I'M NOT GOING TO OBSTRUCT 17 IT. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION? 19 WOULD YOU BE PREPARED TO ABSTAIN? 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN -- CAN YOU ABSTAIN? 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES, YOU CAN. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, TRUSTEE WONG IS SAYING, 23 "NO." 24 TRUSTEE WONG: IT HAS TO BE UNANIMOUS. 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT HAS TO BE UNANIMOUS JUNE 24, 2010 169 1 BECAUSE OF THE -- 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: OF THE PEOPLE VOTING. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M HAPPY TO MOVE IT FORWARD, 4 BUT I JUST HAVE A GENERAL OPPOSITION TO THIS. I MEAN YOU 5 JUST HAVE TO BE WITHIN A BUDGET. THAT'S WHAT HAVING A 6 BUDGET MEANS, PERIOD. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AND, TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOUR 8 SENTIMENTS ARE WELL-NOTED AND APPRECIATED, BUT ALSO WHEN 9 YOUR VOTE BECOMES OBSTRUCTION, THEN WE NEED TO RECONSIDER. 10 BUT I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM AND 11 YOUR FRUSTRATION. WE ALL DO, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD 12 ON THESE PROJECTS. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, THAT'S WHY I SAID, I'M 14 HAPPY TO VOTE, SO IT DOESN'T BLOCK IT, BUT YOU KNOW 15 GENERALLY -- 16 TRUSTEE WONG: WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? I 20 DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. 21 WILL THERE BE ANY FURTHER COST TO THIS PROJECT 22 BEYOND WHAT'S THE FINAL COST THAT'S LISTED HERE? 23 I DON'T KNOW IF DAVID OR ED OR SOMEBODY ELSE. 24 MR. HENRY: THIS IS THE ADA. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE JUNE 24, 2010 170 1 OF THE ADA PROJECT. 2 MR. HENRY: YEAH, THIS PARTICULAR ONE. DOUG 3 HENRY, PROJECT MANAGER, SWINERTON. 4 THESE ITEMS ACTUALLY CAME WITH THE FINAL 5 WALK-THROUGH WITH THE COURT APPOINTED ADA EXPERT. SO THE 6 CONSTRUCTION WAS ESSENTIALLY COMPLETE. HE CAME THROUGH 7 AND FOUND A LIST OF ITEMS. THERE WERE SEVERAL THAT WE 8 PUSHED BACK ON AND FOUND REASONS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TO 9 DO THEM, BUT THERE WAS NO LEGITIMATE -- I MEAN CODE 10 REQUIRED THESE ITEMS. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY RECOURSE 11 TO NOT DO THEM. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEES, I WILL JUST 13 POINT OUT THAT THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE DID TAKE THIS UP. 14 WE HAD A DISCUSSION. AT FACILITIES, WE ARE ALWAYS VERY 15 CAREFUL TO QUESTION CHANGE ORDERS. BUT THE COMMITTEE DID 16 APPROVE THIS ONE WITH A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT WAS 17 UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COULD NOT BE AVOIDED. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE IN 19 TERMS OF THE UNANIMITY OF THE VOTE WOULD BE THREE, FOUR, 20 FIVE, SIX JUST TO POINT THAT OUT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE 21 DEALING WITH. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THAT'S MY POINT THAT IT'S 23 NOT JUST LIKE ONE. IT'S LIKE ALWAYS MORE THAN ONE. AND 24 IT'S ALWAYS EVERY SINGLE MEETING. AND IF THIS WAS YOUR 25 HOUSE AND SOMEONE QUOTED YOU A PRICE FOR YOUR HOUSE AND JUNE 24, 2010 171 1 THEN IT COSTS LIKE 15, 20, 30, 40, $50,000 MORE, YOU WOULD 2 BE UPSET BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR HOUSE. 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MR. PRESIDENT. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: EXCUSE ME. I WASN'T DONE -- 5 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEAH I KNOW, BUT I WANTED 6 TO -- 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- YET ACTUALLY, SO I'M GOING 8 TO ASK THAT I BE ABLE, AS A BOARD MEMBER, TO FINISH MY 9 COMMENT BEFORE I AM INTERRUPTED. 10 SO IF THIS WERE YOUR HOUSE AND COST MORE, YOU 11 WOULD BE JUST SLIGHTLY UPSET THAT YOU HAD TO PAY FOR MORE. 12 SO TREAT THIS AS YOU WOULD TREAT ANY KIND OF BUDGET THAT 13 IT WAS YOUR MONEY. 14 AND SO THAT'S WHY I AM JUST CANDIDLY SAYING 15 THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET A HOLD OF THESE CHANGE 16 ORDERS IN TERMS OF THIS BECAUSE IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR 17 PUBLIC MONEY TO CONTINUE TO BE GOING. 18 IF THIS WERE ONE PROJECT AND THIS IS JUST IT, I 19 WOULD BE FINE. BUT HOW MUCH DOES THAT ADD UP TO? IT'S A 20 LOT OF MONEY. HOW MANY MORE MONTHS DO WE HAVE TO DO 21 CHANGE ORDERS? 22 IT'S JUST MORE AND MORE MONEY AND MORE AND MORE 23 BEING OVER BUDGET IN TERMS OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I JUST -- 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO REVOTE, AND I JUNE 24, 2010 172 1 JUST WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT'S IT. I'M DONE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT 3 THESE FOUR ARE CHANGE ORDERS, BUT THEY ARE CHANGE ORDERS 4 THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CHANGE ORDERS BECAUSE THESE 5 ARE THE ONES THAT EXCEED THE AUTHORIZATION. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: THEY ARE DIFFERENT, BUT YOUR 8 POINT IS COMPLETELY RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S -- I 9 KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE CHANGED THE POLICIES 10 LAST YEAR TO BRING -- TO REQUIRE THE CHANGE ORDERS COME 11 BEFORE THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO THERE'S EVEN THAT MUCH MORE 14 OF A PUBLIC AIRING. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I GET THE PUBLIC AIRING, BUT 16 I'M FINE FOR TRANSPARENCY, BUT I WANT IT TO STOP -- 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- AND THAT'S NOT 19 UNREASONABLE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN COMING FROM THE LABOR 22 COUNCIL AND BEING WITHIN THE BUILDING TRADES, I WANT 23 THAT -- I WANT THE ACTUAL PRACTICE TO STOP. AND IF WE 24 KEEP ON JUST SAYING, OKAY, IT'S FINE. ITS FINE. EVEN IF 25 WE HAVE ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY AND OVERSIGHT, OH, JUNE 24, 2010 173 1 IT'S FINE. IT'S GOING TO INCENTIVISE US TO CONTINUE TO 2 HAVE CHANGE ORDERS. 3 THE MINUTE WE ACTUALLY REJECT SOMETHING AND SAY 4 "NO" WE ARE NOT GOING TO -- WE SELECTED THIS AMOUNT OF 5 MONEY. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR, AND WE ARE 6 NOT PAYING A PENNY MORE, THEN THEY WILL STOP THE CHANGE 7 ORDERS. AND WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THINGS THAT ARE ON 8 BUDGET. BUT THE FACT THAT WE CONTINUE AND CONTINUE TO 9 JUST -- WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT SET A BUDGET FOR SOME STUFF. 10 WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST SAY, HEY, JUST GIVE US A FINAL BILL 11 FOR IT. WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT HAVE A BUDGET IF WE ARE 12 GOING TO GO OVER AND ALLOW IT TO JUST GO OVER BUDGET. WHY 13 HAVE ONE? 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL -- 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YOU HAVE A BUDGET TO STAY 16 WITHIN BUDGET, PERIOD. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE, WITH RESPECT TO 18 THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TURNED DOWN CHANGE ORDERS 19 BEFORE. WE HAVE VOTED "NO" BEFORE. THESE WERE CREATED BY 20 A COURT APPOINTED INSPECTOR. WE HAVE NO SAY OVER THIS. 21 THE INSPECTOR COMES IN AND FINDS NEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE 22 TO FIX ACCORDING TO THE LAWSUIT AND WE HAVE NO CHOICE. 23 THIS IS NOT -- IN THE PAST THERE WERE CERTAINLY 24 CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE FOUND THAT WERE DUE TO NEGLIGENCE OR 25 POOR PLANNING OR SOMETHING. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. THESE JUNE 24, 2010 174 1 CHANGES ORDERS ARE -- THESE ARE THE ADA LAWSUIT, THE COURT 2 APPOINTED INSPECTORS COMING IN AND SAYING, I AM ADDING 3 THAT TO THE LIST AND THAT TO THE LIST AND THAT TO THE 4 LIST. AND SO WE REALLY HAVE NO CHOICE. OTHER THAN GO 5 BACK TO COURT AND SAY, WELL, WE DON'T THINK WE CAN DO 6 THIS. THAT'S WHY THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED IT. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CALL FOR THE QUESTION. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR 10 VOTE ON B3. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B3, 13 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 14 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 22 B3 PASSES. 23 CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR B4, PLEASE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG. JUNE 24, 2010 175 1 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER 3 (SIC). 4 ANY DISCUSSION ON B4? 5 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B4, 8 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 9 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 17 B4 PASSES. 18 A MOTION FOR B5, PLEASE. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER (SIC); 22 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 23 ANY DISCUSSION ON B5? 24 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 176 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B5, 2 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 3 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 11 B5 PASSES. 12 IF I COULD GET A MOTION FOR B6, PLEASE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO MOVED. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 17 ANY DISCUSSION ON B6? 18 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B6, 21 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 22 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 177 1 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 5 B6 PASSES. 6 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR B7, PLEASE. 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 11 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? 12 I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HEARD THIS AT FIT AND 14 MADE SOME MINOR CHANGES. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO THIS IS AFTER YOUR -- 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I BELIEVE IT IS, YES. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 18 THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL OUTLAY PLAN THAT GOES TO THE 19 STATE, CORRECT? 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: CORRECT. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE 22 OUT, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A -- YOU NEED TO KIND OF 23 FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO WORK AND WHAT'S NOT GOING TO 24 WORK. 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. JUNE 24, 2010 178 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST A 2 STRAIGHT LIST OF PRIORITIES. IT'S ACTUALLY -- 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SURE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- SOMEWHAT -- NOT SOMEWHAT 5 GONE THROUGH -- QUITE GONE THROUGH IN TERMS OF STRATEGY. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE WERE SUPPOSED TO PUT UP AT 7 THE TOP THE ONES THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED FOR FUNDING. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALREADY APPROVED -- 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: FOR STATE FUNDING. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: WELL, OKAY. 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AND THEN THE STRATEGY THAT YOU 12 ARE ELUDING TO IS THE FACT THAT THEY WILL ONLY APPROVE ONE 13 PROJECT PER CAMPUS, THE LOAD AFTERWARDS. SO WE WOULDN'T 14 WANT TO PUT THREE OCEAN CAMPUS PROJECTS IN A ROW BECAUSE 15 THEY ARE ONLY GOING TO TAKE ONE. SO WE TRY TO ALTERNATE 16 THEM. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, HAVING HEARD THAT, IT 18 SEEMS THAT THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NOTED, NO. 1, ENERGY 19 CONSERVATION, DISTRICT WIDE, ADA BARRIER REMOVAL, 20 BOOKSTORE AND PARKING STRUCTURE, ALL COME UNDER THE 21 HEADING, "PROJECT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR STATE FUNDING AS 22 INDIVIDUAL CAPITAL PROJECTS." 23 SO ARE THESE SOMEHOW PART OF A LARGER PROJECT? 24 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: NO. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT JUNE 24, 2010 179 1 WHY SOME OF THEM ARE WAY AT THE TOP. 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE? 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: PROJECT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR -- 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- STATE FUNDING. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE STATE IS NOT PAYING FOR ADA 7 BARRIER REMOVAL. IT HASN'T BEEN. THEY JUST KIND OF 8 ABANDONED THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M NOT QUESTIONING EACH ONE 10 OF THEM. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IS ENERGY 11 CONSERVATION NO. 1 FOR A STATE -- FOR A PLAN THAT'S GOING 12 TO THE STATE -- 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- AND THE STATE IS NOT GOING 15 TO -- 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE GOT A LITTLE SWEPT UP IN 17 FEELING VERY GREEN ONE YEAR. AND DECIDED THAT THAT WAS 18 REALLY THAT IMPORTANT; THAT WE NEEDED TO DO EVERYTHING WE 19 POSSIBLY COULD TO REDUCE ENERGY USE IN THE DISTRICT. 20 WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE SOME PROGRESS WITH SMALLER PROJECTS. 21 TRUSTEE NGO HAD A RESOLUTION RECENTLY TO TRY TO 22 PURSUE MONEY FOR SOME LARGER ONES. AND IT'S BEEN UP THERE 23 AT THE TOP FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, BUT WE CERTAINLY 24 COULD REVISIT IT. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE'S ALSO A COST JUNE 24, 2010 180 1 SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT 3 WHY IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE STATE. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT -- I WAS THE ONE THAT 5 PROPOSED -- 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- WHEN NOTHING IS GOING TO BE 7 FUNDED BY THEM. 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IN THE SHARED GOVERNANCE 9 FACILITIES REVIEW COMMITTEE, I PROPOSED PUTTING IT AT THE 10 TOP. THIS IS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, MAYBE EVEN FOUR YEARS 11 AGO. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BUT I WOULDN'T CONSIDER IT AN 14 INSULT IF THE BOARD -- 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. NO. NO. I'M JUST TRYING 16 TO FIGURE OUT -- IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WILL BE ALONE IN THAT. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALL RIGHT. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR 21 QUESTIONS? 22 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON B7. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B7, 25 PLEASE SAY "AYE." JUNE 24, 2010 181 1 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS ANYBODY OPPOSED? 9 I'M GOING TO VOTE "NO" ON THIS. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WANTED TO POINT OUT IF 11 I COULD, THAT ONE OF THE CHANGES WE MADE IS WE MOVED UP 12 THE STUDENT SERVICES BUILDING HIGHER GIVEN THE FACT THAT 13 OUT OF THE STUDENT EQUITY HEARINGS WE HEARD THAT A 14 ONE-STOP KIND OF LOCATION WAS NEEDED. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON 16 THAT. 17 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR B8, PLEASE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO. 20 SECONDED BY? 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE FANG. 23 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT B8? 24 I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO TALK TO US A 25 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ONE. I'M NOT CERTAIN HOW THIS FAR JUNE 24, 2010 182 1 AFTER THE END OF A PROJECT THERE'S STILL THE -- 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE WELLNESS CENTER. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT, THERE'S STILL MONEY 4 OWED. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. THIS ONE, THIS WAS 6 ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FINDINGS IN THE MGT REPORT THAT 7 SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE DISTRICT DID NOT HAVE 8 A PRACTICE OF ACCURATELY BUDGETING EARLY IN THE PROJECT. 9 THE FULL COST FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAD TO BE PAID TO DSA BY 10 THE TIME THE PROJECT IS OVER. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THE 11 DSA FEE ISN'T REALLY FINALLY SET UNTIL THE FULL 12 CONSTRUCTION COST IS KNOWN, WHICH TYPICALLY WILL THEN 13 ELEVATE THE FINAL DSA FEES. AND SO WE HAD NOT BEEN ABLE 14 TO CLOSE THIS PROJECT COMPLETELY OUT BECAUSE WE HAD NOT 15 DONE OUR FINAL PAYMENT OF DSA FEES, AND THAT'S THE REASON 16 IT'S HERE NOW. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY. 18 YOU SEEM TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IN HERE. ONE ABOUT 19 THE APPLICATION FEE FOR THE STATE ARCHITECT. AND THE 20 SECOND ONE AROUND THE ADA IMPROVEMENTS. AND I'M TRYING TO 21 FIGURE OUT WHY -- 22 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OH. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- THEY'RE GROUPED. 24 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION IS 25 ASKING THE BOARD TO ALLOCATE INTEREST MONEY FOR THESE TWO JUNE 24, 2010 183 1 PARTICULAR PURPOSES. THEY COULD HAVE BEEN IN SEPARATE 2 RESOLUTIONS. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 4 IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT B8? 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I WOULD JUST 6 MENTION THAT THIS FINDING FROM THE PERFORMANCE OR THE MGT 7 PERFORMANCE AUDIT IS SOMETHING THAT THE FACILITIES 8 COMMITTEE -- IT'S A SEMI-REGULAR ITEM. WE ARE TRYING TO 9 KEEP ON TOP OF IT. IT'S A LONG TIME SINCE THIS SHOULD 10 HAVE BEEN CLOSED OUT. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B8, 15 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 16 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 21 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 24 I AM OPPOSED. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I AM GOING TO JOIN YOU ON JUNE 24, 2010 184 1 THAT ONE TOO. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE STILL HAVE FOUR. OKAY, 3 THAT'S ALL WE NEED, RIGHT? 4 SO WE CAN SKIP TO F1. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR 5 F1, PLEASE. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 8 IT HAS TO BE SECONDED BY SOMEBODY. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: BY YOU? 11 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 13 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT F1? 14 WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION OF THE CHANCELLOR AND 15 YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 16 WE PASSED A RESOLUTION ASKING YOU TO BRING US 17 SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO THE ADMINISTRATOR 18 EVALUATION PROCESS, AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE STATUS OF 19 THAT. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE ARE PREPARED TO BRING A 21 RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD IN JULY. WE HAVE MET WITH THE 22 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. WE ALSO SOLICITED EXAMPLES OF 23 DIFFERENT KINDS OF ADMINISTRATIVE EVALUATIONS FROM OTHER 24 DISTRICTS. AND WE ARE GOING FORWARD TO GIVE YOU A VERY 25 COMPREHENSIVE RECOMMENDATION REGARDING HOW WE SHOULD JUNE 24, 2010 185 1 CHANGE THE ADMINISTRATIVE EVALUATIONS. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 3 I HAVE ONE MORE DETAILED QUESTION. IT 4 REFERENCES IN HERE CONTRACTS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT 5 ADMINISTRATORS DO NOT ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: MY UNDERSTANDING FROM 7 OUTSIDE ATTORNEY, JEFF SLOAN, THAT IN MANY WAYS THE 8 ARRANGEMENT WE HAVE DOES FUNCTION LIKE A CONTRACT. IT'S 9 NOT A CONTRACT, BUT IT FUNCTIONS LIKE A CONTRACT. AND 10 THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY AWARE OF THAT. AND THAT SOMEHOW 11 THE BOARD WAS NOT PERHAPS FULLY INFORMED THAT THESE COULD 12 FUNCTION LIKE CONTRACTS WHEN IT WAS INTRODUCED THAT WE DID 13 IT THIS WAY SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WORTH 15 WALKING ABOUT AT SOME POINT. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S ACTUALLY AN IMPLIED 18 CONTRACT. 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S AN IMPLIED CONTRACT. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: AN IMPLIED CONTRACT. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 23 I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: THESE PEOPLE OR MOST OF THESE JUNE 24, 2010 186 1 PEOPLE ARE ALL TAKING DIFFERENT POSITIONS. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK 3 THAT TOO. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE 5 EXTENDING THEM IN THE CURRENT POSITIONS, BUT WE HAVE NO 6 WAY OF KNOWING IF THEY ARE GOING TO STAY IN THEIR CURRENT 7 POSITIONS OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR STAY WHERE THEY ARE 8 GOING. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE 10 BEEN GIVEN ASSIGNMENTS AS OPPOSED TO I SHOULD SAY JUST A 11 STRAIGHT ACROSS ASSIGNMENT TRANSFER RATHER THAN AN INTERIM 12 POSITION. THOSE WOULD BE EXTENDED THE SAME WAY. 13 THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TAKING INTERIM 14 POSITIONS WOULD BE EXTENDED IN A POSITION THAT THEY HOLD 15 BECAUSE MOST OF THESE ADMINISTRATORS LIKE A DIRECTOR OF A 16 PROGRAM, THAT DIRECTOR'S CONTRACT WOULD BE EXTENDED. THAT 17 PERSON IS ALSO APPLIED FOR INTERIM POSITION. IF THEY WERE 18 TO APPLY FOR THE PERMANENT POSITION, WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL 19 WITH THAT AT THAT POINT. BUT THIS IS FOR THEM IN THEIR 20 CURRENT POSITION AND NOT INTERIM POSITIONS TO GO FORWARD 21 FOR THE CONTRACT YEARS THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. I GOT YOU. I GOT IT. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: A LITTLE BIT IN ADVANCE, 24 BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING INTO 25 JEOPARDY INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS TO HAVE A CONTRACT EXTENDED JUNE 24, 2010 187 1 SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING ON WHAT COULD BE A 2 TEMPORARY ASSIGNMENT AS AN INTERIM. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. GO AHEAD. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO I -- 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND 6 LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE LISTED HERE VERONICA 7 HUNNICUTT, DEAN OF SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. BUT IN RESOLUTION 8 F10, WE HAVE DR. HENRY AUGUSTINE TO HAVE THE 9 RESPONSIBILITIES OF DEAN OF SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. SO IT LOOKS 10 LIKE WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS WITH ASSIGNING TWO PEOPLE TO 11 THE SAME THING. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SHE WAS -- I UNDERSTAND 13 WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. AS A DEAN, SHE IS BEING EXTENDED. 14 SHE HAPPENS TO HAVE THE ASSIGNMENT OF SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 15 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS THAT SHE AS A 16 DEAN, SHE IS BEING EXTENDED AS A DEAN AND NOT AS A MEMBER 17 OF A PARTICULAR SPECIALTY. SO ANY ADMINISTRATORS COULD BE 18 ASSIGNED TO A DIFFERENT ASSIGNMENT AND THAT COULD BE DONE 19 BY ME AT ANY TIME. 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SEE. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO WE ARE JUST SAYING THAT 22 CONTRACTUALLY SHE HAS SERVED THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT SHE 23 NEEDED TO SERVE. AND SHE SERVED SATISFACTORY IN THE 24 POSITION THIS YEAR. SO THEREFORE, WE ARE ASKING FOR HER 25 CONTRACT TO BE ROLLED. AND THAT'S THE SAME CASE WITH ALL JUNE 24, 2010 188 1 OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: PRESIDENT SAGINOR. 4 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 5 PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT F1 6 AND F2 ALSO WERE REVIEWED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR EVALUATION 7 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WHICH IS RIGHT AND PROPER. BUT THE 8 ADMINISTRATION, EVALUATION OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS NOT 9 WITHIN THE SHARED GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE. 10 SO IN FACT THIS RESOLUTION DID NOT GET A SHARED 11 GOVERNANCE REVIEW. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHAT -- 13 MS. SAGINOR: ON PAGE -- 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. NO. I SEE THAT, BUT WHAT 15 SHOULD IT HAVE GONE THROUGH? WHICH OF THE THREE? 16 MS. SAGINOR: I THINK THAT WAS THE RIGHT 17 COMMITTEE. IT'S JUST THAT IT SHOULD BE CHECKED THEN AS 18 "NO". 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OH, I SEE THIS IS "NO" 20 INSTEAD OF "YES." 21 MS. SAGINOR: IT'S "NO" INSTEAD OF "YES." 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. THANK YOU. 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO WE NEED TO MOVE AN 24 AMENDMENT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE OR JUST -- 25 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. JUNE 24, 2010 189 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. 2 THANK YOU. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON F1. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF F1, 6 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 15 F1 PASSES. 16 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR F2, PLEASE. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 20 SECONDED BY JACKSON SECONDED IT. 21 YOU HAVE THE SAME POINT, DON'T YOU ABOUT THIS? 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 23 ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? 24 IF NOT, STUDENTS TRUSTEE FANG. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 190 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF F2, 2 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 3 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 11 F2 PASSES. 12 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR F3, PLEASE. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON; 16 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 17 18 ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 19 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF F2, 22 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 23 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 191 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 6 F2 PASSES. 7 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR F3, PLEASE. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 12 ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT F3? 13 I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. THIS WHOLE CLASS OF 16 14 THAT WILL BE RETIRING AS OF SIX DAYS FROM NOW. ARE WE 15 GOING TO HAVE THEM HERE AT OUR JULY MEETING? ARE WE GOING 16 TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THINGS ABOUT THEM? 17 THEY ARE NOT HERE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE WERE SOME LAST 19 MONTH. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF 21 THEY HEARD THINGS FROM US. 22 I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE ACTUALLY HAD SEVEN 24 PARTIES, SEVEN EVENTS TO THANK THEM, INCLUDING TWO 25 YESTERDAY OR ONE YESTERDAY. I FORGET HOW MANY. I THINK JUNE 24, 2010 192 1 WE HAD TWO EVENTS YESTERDAY TO HONOR THE RETIRING 2 ADMINISTRATORS OF WHICH WE INVITED AND WE CONTINUE TO 3 INVITE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO COME TO. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I DON'T REMEMBER -- 5 CHANCELLOR, I DON'T REMEMBER AN INVITATION TO ANY OF THEM. 6 I DON'T REMEMBER ANY EVENTS. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE LEFT OUT CHRIS JACKSON. 8 YOU GUYS, THAT'S NOT GOOD. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN I THOUGHT YOU GUYS LIKE 11 ME. WHEN I HAVE MY BIRTHDAY PARTY, YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING 12 TO BE INVITED EITHER. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER 14 COMMENTS, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, F3. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THESE IN FAVOR OF F3, 17 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 F3 PASSES. JUNE 24, 2010 193 1 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR F4, PLEASE. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE RIZZO. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 6 ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT F4? 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO THANKS FOR THE 8 APPOINTMENT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE HIRING 9 PROCESS HAD AN EXTENSIVE INTERVIEW. AND I APPRECIATE THE 10 LARGE EFFORT THAT WAS MADE TO INCLUDE ALL CONSTITUENCY IN 11 REGARDS TO THIS POSITION WHICH RELATES TO A STUDENT IN A 12 VERY GOOD WAY. 13 AND ALSO MOVING FORWARD, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO 14 WORKING WITH ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED DEAN OF STUDENTS. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 16 SO HOW WOULD YOU VOTE THEN. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THESE IN FAVOR OF F4, 19 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 194 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 3 F4, PASSES. 4 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR F5. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO 8 AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 9 DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I WOULD. THIS IS 11 THE HIRING OF DAVID HOTCHKISS FOR THE CHIEF INFORMATION 12 TECHNOLOGY OFFICER. 13 I PARTICIPATED IN TWO OF THE ROUNDS OF 14 INTERVIEWS WITH MR. HOTCHKISS AND ONE OTHER CANDIDATE. I 15 FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT HIS QUALIFICATIONS AND HIS SKILL SET. 16 ALSO HIS EXPERIENCE I THINK IS A VERY GOOD MATCH TO OUR 17 SITUATION HERE. THE THINGS THAT HE'S DONE ARE THE THINGS 18 THAT WE NEED TO DO. AND I CERTAINLY TRIED TO THROW AS 19 MANY HARD TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AS I COULD, AND I THINK HE 20 ANSWERED THEM WITH FLYING COLORS. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION 22 BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE ADDING AN ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE THIS 23 IS A NEW POSITION. AND IT'S BEEN STATED THAT THIS IS 24 GOING TO PAY FOR ITSELF WITH THE COST SAVINGS WITHIN THE 25 TECHNOLOGY SAVINGS. JUNE 24, 2010 195 1 AM I READING THAT ACCURATELY OR -- 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, IT IS. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE JUST 4 FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDING ANOTHER 5 ADMINISTRATOR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT PUBLICLY KNOWN 6 THAT THIS ACTUALLY WILL BE PAID FOR BY THE COST SAVINGS OF 7 WHAT THIS POSITION WOULD DO, RIGHT? 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, 9 "RIGHT." THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF ADMINISTRATORS HAVE GONE 10 FROM, AS I SAID EARLY, IT'S ACTUALLY 56 DOWN TO I BELIEVE 11 46. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN WAY TEN ADMINISTRATORS, 12 INCLUDING THIS PERSON IN THIS COUNT. 13 SO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF THE 14 TOTAL OVERALL DECREASE IN ADMINISTRATORS, RATHER THAN 15 THINKING OF THIS ONE AS AN ADD BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY 16 PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING -- 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OF COURSE. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- AND VERY FEW COMING IN. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BUT I DO AGREE THAT 21 ACCORDING TO OUR PLAN, THIS PERSON WOULD MORE THAN PAY FOR 22 HIS SALARY IN A FAIRLY SHORT TIME IF OUR PLAN IS LIVED UP 23 TO. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. I ALSO JUNE 24, 2010 196 1 HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING HIM. I THINK HE IS GOING TO 2 DO VERY WELL. I THINK HE IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE 3 DISTRICT. I THINK HE KNOWS HIS STUFF. HE'S A GOOD 4 MANAGER. HE SEEMS TO UNDERSTAND EDUCATIONAL MANAGEMENT. 5 I THINK HE WILL BE -- HE WILL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, 6 WHICH I THINK IS THE IMPORTANT THING FOR US. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 8 SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON F5. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THESE IN FAVOR OF F5, 11 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 20 F5 PASSES. 21 IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND IN THE BELIEF THAT 22 F6-F14 WILL NOT CONTROVERSIAL, ANY ONE OF THEM, CAN 23 SOMEBODY MOVE ALL OF THEM AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON ALL OF 24 THEM. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. JUNE 24, 2010 197 1 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WOULD LIKE A SECOND TO 3 SEE WHAT THEY ARE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: TAKE A LOOK, DEFINITELY. 5 SO MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON AND SECONDED BY 6 TRUSTEE WONG. 7 TAKE A SECOND AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OF THEM 8 THAT -- 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: F -- WHICH ONES NOW? 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: F6 -- 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THROUGH 14. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- THROUGH F14. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: PETER, WOULD IT BE DIFFICULT -- I 14 KNOW I'VE ALREADY ASKED THIS BEFORE MANY TIMES IN THE 15 PAST, BUT WOULD IT BE DIFFICULT TO HAVE IN THE AGENDA THE 16 NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS? 17 I KNOW WE HAVE THE POSITIONS. 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE NAMES OF 20 THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RETIRING OR WHATEVER. WE DON'T 21 HAVE ANY NAMES. 22 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. IT WAS FIRST POSTED 23 IN -- 24 TRUSTEE WONG: I KNOW WE HAVE THE NAMES IN THE 25 RESOLUTION. JUNE 24, 2010 198 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST THE -- 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OH, IN THE TABLE OF CONTENTS. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. YEAH, SO WE COULD JUST 5 LOOK AT IT AND KNOW -- 6 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT 7 THESE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: WE KNOW THE POSITIONS. WE ARE 9 FAMILIAR WITH THE POSITIONS. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT I 11 THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RETIRING ARE GOING TO BE SORELY 12 MISSED. I'M SORRY NONE OF THEM ARE HERE TO HEAR US SAY TO 13 THEM THAT THEY'VE JUST AN AMAZING JOB UNDER VERY DIFFICULT 14 CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO. AND THEY ARE 15 REALLY GOING TO BE MISSED. 16 AND THE PEOPLE -- THE OTHER HALF OF THEM WHO ARE 17 TAKING ON ALL THE JOBS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO SAY 18 CONGRATULATIONS OR CONDOLENCES. I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY IT 19 IS GOING TO GO, BUT MORE POWER TO THEM FOR AT LEAST SAYING 20 THAT THEY WILL ACCEPT THOSE JOBS. AND I'M SURE THEY WILL 21 JUST DO FINE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 23 TRUSTEE WONG. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: I JUST WANT TO CONCUR THAT IT'S 25 LIKE THE CHANGING OF AN ERA. THEY HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR JUNE 24, 2010 199 1 FAMILY AT LEAST SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR 16 2 YEARS, SO IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S PAINFUL. AND IT'S KIND OF 3 SAD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY ARE 4 A LITTLE BIT ELATED BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO GET A LIFE 5 NOW. SO I'M HAPPY FOR THEM ALSO. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANY QUESTIONS? 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AGREE WITH THAT. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO, NOT ON THAT. I MEAN ON 9 ANY OF THE -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BUT 11 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE AND I WON'T SAY THE SAME 12 THING. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON THESE HIRES, I GUESS 15 ALL THESE HIRES, THESE ARE TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL DUTIES AND 16 SALARY. AND ONE IS A CHANGE OF DUTIES. WHY IS ONE 17 LABELED CHANGE OF DUTIES AS OPPOSED TO -- 18 OH, BECAUSE IT IS NOT AN ADDING, IT'S JUST A 19 SHIFTING. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHICH ONE ARE YOU REFERRING 21 TO? 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: F13. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: F13, IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S A 24 CHANGE OF DUTIES. TWO OF THEM ARE TRANSFERS. FOUR OF 25 THEM ARE TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL DUTIES. AND ONE IS A CHANGE JUNE 24, 2010 200 1 OF DUTY. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO THIS ONE REFERS TO VICE 3 CHANCELLOR FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION. IS THAT THE ONE 4 YOU ARE REFERRING TO? 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. YES. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, BASICALLY IN TERMS OF 7 THE ADMINISTRATOR REALIGNMENT, OUR PLAN WAS TO HIRE AND IS 8 STILL TO HIRE A VICE CHANCELLOR OF RESEARCH AND PLANNING. 9 THAT'S A POSITION THAT USED TO BE VICE CHANCELLOR OF 10 INSTITUTIONAL AND ADVANCEMENT, RIGHT? 11 AND THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF 12 NOW. WE HAVE NOT GOT THE JOB ANNOUNCEMENT OUT, BUT WE DO 13 PLAN TO GET IT OUT IN THE FALL. AND THE IDEA IS THAT 14 BECAUSE FUND-RAISING, PLANNING, STRATEGIC PLANNING IS 15 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME AND A DECISION 16 HAS BEEN MADE THAT VICE CHANCELLOR OF FINANCE AND 17 ADMINISTRATION, PETER GOLDSTEIN, WOULD TAKE OVER THAT AREA 18 UNTIL WE CAN HIRE SOMEONE AS FAR AS THE LEADERSHIP IS 19 CONCERNED. 20 AND IN EXCHANGE WE MIGHT -- OR WE MIGHT 21 CHARACTERIZE IT AS A CHANGE. I WOULD TAKE ON AND HAVE 22 STARTED TO TAKE ON DIRECT SUPERVISION OF THE POLICE CHIEF, 23 THE ADA COMPLIANCE, THE EMPLOYEE RELATIONS MANAGER, AND 24 THE CTO, ALL OF WHICH WERE SLATED TO BE UNDER THE VICE 25 CHANCELLOR OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS A JUNE 24, 2010 201 1 TEMPORARY ARRANGEMENT AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, BUT THAT'S 2 IT. WE ARE JUST DOING A LOT OF SHARING BECAUSE OF 3 VACANCIES. 4 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR 5 THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW. 6 ON THE OTHER ONES, THESE TEMPORARY ADDITIONAL 7 DUTIES AND SALARY. DO THEIR TITLES CHANGE? 8 FOR INSTANCE, DOES CLARA STARR REMAIN DEAN OF 9 HUMAN RESOURCES OR DOES SHE ALSO GET THE TITLE OF DEAN OF 10 LIBRARY OR INTERIM DEAN? 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT IS NOT REALLY MY 12 INTENTION. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S NOT, OKAY. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: MY INTENTION IS THAT SHE 15 REMAIN, THE HR DEAN. 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL OF 17 THEM, NOT JUST PARTICULARLY HER. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, SO I'M HOPING THAT 19 I'M NOT MISSPEAKING WHEN I SAY ALL. BUT I THINK IN ALL OF 20 THESE CASES, THE INTENTION IS THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ON 21 DUTIES OF, BUT NOT NECESSARILY -- THEY WOULD NOT BE THE 22 DEAN OF THESE DEPARTMENTS. WE NEED TO HAVE DEANS IN MANY 23 CASES WHEN WE ARE FINANCIALLY MORE ABLE TO, THE IDEA WOULD 24 BE THAT WE WOULD FILL THESE POSITIONS. WE JUST CAN'T FILL 25 THEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IF NOT THIS YEAR, COMING UP IN JUNE 24, 2010 202 1 2010-2011 AND WHO KNOWS ABOUT '11-'12. SO THEY'VE AGREED 2 TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES. 3 HISTORICALLY WHEN WE HAVE DONE THAT, WE'VE ADDED 4 A FRACTION OF A DOLLAR AMOUNT AS KIND OF AN INCENTIVE 5 THERE, WHICH USUALLY IS IN THE RANGE OF 12 TO $15,000 PER 6 YEAR, RATHER THAN THE $150,000 SALARY THAT WE HAVE TO 7 INCUR. 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, BUT THEY ARE 9 GETTING SOME -- 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S THE IDEA. THAT THEY 11 WOULD GET FROM 12 TO $15,000 A YEAR FOR TAKING ON THE 12 EXTRA DUTY. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY 14 MUCH. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER 16 QUESTIONS, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG F6-F14. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF F6-F14, 19 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 203 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 3 THOSE ALL PASS. 4 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR P1, PLEASE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 9 THIS IS THE SECOND READING AS OUR POLICIES 10 REQUIRE OF ALL POLICY CHANGES. THE OTHER TWO ARE FIRST 11 READINGS. 12 ANY DISCUSSION ON P1? 13 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF P1, 16 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 17 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 25 P1 PASSES. JUNE 24, 2010 204 1 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION -- 2 TRUSTEE BERG: CAN WE DO P2 AND P3? 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 4 TRUSTEE BERG: CAN WE DO P2 AND P3 TOGETHER? 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YES, I SECOND THAT. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, SO P2 AND P3 WERE MOVED 7 TOGETHER BY TRUSTEE BERG AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 8 ANY DISCUSSION ON EITHER OF THOSE? 9 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, P2 AND P3. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF P2 AND 12 P3, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 13 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 21 THOSE PASS. 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THEY ALL SECOND 23 READINGS? 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, SOME OF THEM ARE JUNE 24, 2010 205 1 FIRST. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: TWO OF THEM ARE FIRST. 3 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S1. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THESE 6 SEPARATELY. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHO MOVED IT? 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I DID. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON AND 12 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 13 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON S1? 14 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, ON S1. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S1, 17 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? JUNE 24, 2010 206 1 S1 PASSES. 2 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S2. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECOND BY TRUSTEE WONG. 7 CHANCELLOR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S 8 BEEN A REQUEST FOR US TO HOLD OFF ON THIS PARTICULAR 9 RESOLUTION AND MOVE IT TO OUR NEXT MEETING. IT MAY BE THE 10 REGULAR JULY MEETING OR IT MAY BE A DIFFERENT JULY 11 MEETING. 12 IS THAT CORRECT? 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S CORRECT. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: EITHER YOUR SPECIAL MEETING OR 15 YOUR REGULAR MEETING. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YOUR SPECIAL MEETING OR YOUR 18 REGULAR MEETING. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. I'M NOT CERTAIN WHICH 20 IT SHOULD BE. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY, SO WE SHOULD -- 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IF SOMEBODY COULD MOVE TO. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, WE NEED TO TAKE THE MOTION 24 OFF THE FLOOR FIRST AND THEN I WILL MOVE TO TABLE IT. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN WE PUBLICLY SAY WHY? JUNE 24, 2010 207 1 I MEAN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW PUBLICLY WHY IT IS 2 BEING MOVED. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE 4 RESOLUTION IS NOT IN FACT FINISHED. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: WE WERE ASKED TO DO IT. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY, I KNOW PERSONALLY, BUT I 7 JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHY WE ARE DOING IT. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO YOU WILL TAKE YOUR MOTION 9 OFF THE TABLE. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND YOU'LL TAKE YOUR SECOND 12 OFF THE TABLE. SO IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE 13 THIS TO -- 14 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL MOVE TO TABLE. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING, 16 WHICHEVER DATE THAT IS. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 20 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF 24 CONTINUING THIS TO OUR NEXT MEETING, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 25 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 208 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 8 THAT PASSES. 9 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S3, PLEASE. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 13 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 14 ANY DISCUSSION ON S3? 15 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S3, 18 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 209 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 2 S3 PASSES. 3 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S4, PLEASE. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 8 ANY DISCUSSION ON S4? 9 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S4, 12 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 13 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 21 S4 PASSES. 22 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S5, PLEASE. 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE VICE 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO. JUNE 24, 2010 210 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 3 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT S5? 4 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, S5. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S5, 7 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 8 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 16 S5 PASSES. 17 A MOTION FOR S6, PLEASE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 22 ANY DISCUSSION ON S6? 23 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S6, JUNE 24, 2010 211 1 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 10 S6 PASSES. 11 MOTION FOR S7, PLEASE. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 16 ANY DISCUSSION ON S7? 17 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S7, 20 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 21 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) JUNE 24, 2010 212 1 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 4 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S8. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG AND 8 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 9 CHANCELLOR, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT 10 THIS DIRECTIVE TO THE INTERNAL AUDITOR ABOUT THE PAYROLL 11 AUDIT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE 12 HAVE BEEN DOING, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 13 YOU WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING DONE. SO I THINK IT IS 14 IMPORTANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT IT. 15 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'VE HAD IT. WE'VE 16 DISCUSSED IT BEFORE. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: I KNOW, BUT I STILL THINK HE 18 SHOULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. SO PART OF OUR 20 CONCERN AND RIC JAZAIE, THE INTERNAL AUDITOR, IS HERE TO 21 HELP ME OUT HERE IF I NEED IT. 22 WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AREAS OF RISK 23 AS FAR AS THE COLLEGE IS EXPOSED TO. AND THERE ARE SOME 24 AREAS WHERE THE CONTROLS ARE NOT AS TIGHT AS THEY SHOULD 25 BE. IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE WAY THAT WE OPERATE IN TERMS JUNE 24, 2010 213 1 OF THE OFFICE OF INSTRUCTION AND THE PAYROLL SYSTEM, 2 POSITIONS ARE PUT IN -- OR RATHER WE CODE THINGS IN AT THE 3 OFFICE OF INSTRUCTION. IT IS SENT OVER TO PAYROLL. 4 PAYROLL AUTOMATICALLY PAYS WHAT'S PUT IN. THEY ARE IN 5 CONTROL OF CHECKS THERE. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PAYROLL 6 SYSTEM AND THE OFFICE OF INSTRUCTION. EVENTUALLY, BUT WE 7 ARE STARTING OFF LOOKING AT THE PAYROLL DEPARTMENT. 8 THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES RELEVANT TO PAYROLL 9 THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT, BUT WE WANT TO 10 TIGHTEN UP THE CONTROLS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN REALLY 11 ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR AS FAR 12 AS CONTROL. 13 DOCUMENTING AND TESTING THE SYSTEM IS ANOTHER 14 THING THAT WE REALLY -- BECAUSE THAT'S SO CRITICAL, 15 EVERYBODY HAS GOT THEIR EYE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH 16 PAYROLL BECAUSE THEIR CHECKS ARE COMING. THE PAY COMES 17 THROUGH THERE, SO WE ARE TESTING THAT. 18 THERE WAS A 6 PERCENT CUT IN ADMINISTRATIVE 19 SALARIES LAST YEAR. AND THE MESSAGE HAS COME FROM US 20 SEVERAL TIMES FROM THE BOARD, HAS THAT 6 PERCENT REALLY 21 IMPLEMENTED OR NOT? GIVE US BACK A REPORT AND LET US 22 KNOW. WE FELT THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT. 23 ONE OF THE RESIDUALS OF THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS 24 IS THE SO CALLED ZERO STEPS OR STEP ZEROES, WHICH WE ARE 25 TRYING TO ELIMINATE AS FAR AS THE DISTRICT IS CONCERNED. JUNE 24, 2010 214 1 BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND HAVE A 2 REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD. 3 SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A STARTING AREA AS FAR AS 4 SOME OF THE RISKS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY OUR RISK REPORT 5 THAT WAS DONE AND PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. 6 SO WE ARE JUST KIND OF SYSTEMATICALLY KIND OF 7 WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THE VARIOUS AREAS OF RISK. WE 8 BELIEVE THAT THE PAYROLL DEPARTMENT IS A KEY IMPORTANT 9 STARTING PLACE TO BEGIN DOING THIS. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: MR. JAZAIE, DO YOU HAVE 11 ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? 12 MR. JAZAIE: RIC JAZAIE, THANK YOU, TRUSTEE 13 MARKS. I'M THE INTERNAL AUDITOR. 14 AS THE CHANCELLOR INDICATED, WHEN WE DID THE 15 RISK ASSESSMENT FROM THIS YEAR'S AUDIT PLAN, WE PUT THE 16 AREA OF PAYROLL AND NON-INSTRUCTIONAL AREA AS HIGH RISK. 17 AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESSED THOSE FIRST. THE 18 BUDGET HOURS WERE GIVEN IN THE RISK ASSESSMENT REPORT. I 19 THINK JUST FOR THE PAYROLL ON THE INTERNAL CONTROL SIDE OF 20 THE EXTERNAL AUDITOR'S BUDGETED ABOUT 225 HOURS ON A 21 NON-INSTRUCTIONAL SITE. IT WAS ABOUT -- SOME OF WHICH NOW 22 ARE 100, 200 HOURS. 23 AND DURING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, I DID EXPLAIN TO 24 THE CHAIR, AND I THINK TRUSTEE RIZZO WAS ALSO PRESENT AT 25 THAT TIME, THAT IN ORDER FOR ME TO MOVE FORWARD, I NEED TO JUNE 24, 2010 215 1 EITHER GET AN AUDIT COMMITTEE APPROVAL OR I NEED TO GET A 2 BOARD RESOLUTION GIVING ME PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD. 3 SO I REQUESTED FROM THE CHANCELLOR TO PUT THIS 4 TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AUDIT CHARTER AS WELL. BUT 5 THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A -- IN PHASES. THE REPORTS 6 WILL COME OUT IN PHASES INSTEAD OF ONE COMPREHENSIVE 7 REPORT. I WILL JUST CONTINUE TO GIVE YOU REPORTS AS TO 8 HOW THINGS ARE GOING. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. 10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 11 AND THANK YOU, CHANCELLOR. 12 IF THERE ARE NO OTHER DISCUSSION, STUDENT 13 TRUSTEE FANG. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S8, 16 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 17 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 25 S8 PASSES. JUNE 24, 2010 216 1 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S9, PLEASE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG; 5 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 6 THIS IS A RESOLUTION THANKING A LARGE NUMBER OF 7 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SERVING ON THE CITIZENS' BOND 8 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, INCLUDING THE CHAIR HENRY DER, WHO 9 HAS BEEN SERVING IN THAT POSITION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 10 THEY'VE ALL COME TO THE END OF THEIR LEGALLY ALLOWABLE 11 TERMS, SO THIS IS TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR WORK. 12 AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM PARTICULARLY FOR 13 THE REPORT THAT CAME OUT RECENTLY ABOUT HOW THE DISTRICT 14 IS WORKING ON THE BOND PROJECT. 15 SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S9, 18 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: RECLUSE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 217 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM GOING TO RECLUSE 3 SINCE I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE BEING THANKED. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: OH, THANK YOU. 5 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S10. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 10 SO THIS IS FILLING IN SOME OF THOSE PLACES, NOT 11 ALL OF THEM. WE HAVE -- THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS THAT ARE 12 REQUIRED BY THE STATUE FOR PROP 39 AND THEN WE AS A BOARD 13 DECIDED, RATHER THAN HAVING ONE COMMUNITY AT LARGE 14 REPRESENTATIVE THAT EACH OF US WOULD HAVE AN APPOINTMENT 15 TO THE COMMITTEE THIS YEAR. THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WE HAVE 16 MADE, THREE OF THE TRUSTEES THEIR APPOINTMENTS HAD THEIR 17 TERMS UP. 18 I KNOW, TRUSTEE GRIER, YOU HAD SOMEBODY I 19 BELIEVE THAT FELL THROUGH -- 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: I HAVE TO RECOMMEND A SECOND 21 PERSON. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- SO HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT 23 MEETING, YOU WILL HAVE SOMEBODY TO THANK TO TRUSTEE BERG 24 AND TRUSTEE WONG FOR YOUR TWO APPOINTMENTS. 25 AND YOU WILL ALSO NOTE THAT WE CHANGED SOME JUNE 24, 2010 218 1 THINGS THIS YEAR MOVING FORWARD. RATHER THAN THE SAN 2 FRANCISCO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, IT'S THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN 3 CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. AND RATHER THAN THE COMMISSION ON 4 AGING, IT'S SELF-HELP FOR THE ELDERLY. 5 THE WEST OF TWIN PEAKS CENTRAL COUNCIL, THAT 6 PARTICULAR PERSON HAS EXPERTISE IN TAX-RELATED ISSUES, AND 7 THE CITY COLLEGE FOUNDATION AND THE STUDENT TRUSTEE ARE 8 THE SAME, COMING FROM THE SAME SOURCES. SO IT'S CHANGING 9 SOMEWHAT, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 I RECOMMENDED GEORGE WOODING OF THE WEST OF TWIN 12 PEAKS CENTRAL COUNCIL TO BE THE -- HE IS THE TAXPAYER 13 ADVOCATE SLOT. HE IS RECOMMENDED BY MARA COP (PHONETIC). 14 AND I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH GEORGE ON SEVERAL COMMUNITY 15 PROJECTS IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO, AND I THINK HE WILL BE 16 GOOD ON HERE. 17 I HAD TO COAX HIM A LITTLE BIT TO TAKE SOME MORE 18 OF HIS TIME, BUT I THINK HE WILL GENERALLY PUT IN AN 19 EFFORT. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 21 IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, STUDENT 22 TRUSTEE FANG, S10. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL RECLUSE SINCE 24 I'M -- 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WON'T ASK YOU. JUNE 24, 2010 219 1 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR S10, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 10 S10 PASSES. 11 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S12, PLEASE. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG AND 15 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 16 ANY DISCUSSION ON S12? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: WHY DIDN'T WE DO S11? 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: S11 WAS PULLED BECAUSE SOMEONE 19 ELSE HAD FULFILLED THEIR DUTIES. 20 IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD THE ANNUAL PLAN COME TO US 21 IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY I BELIEVE. I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST 22 THIS BECAUSE I THINK WITHOUT HAVING MORE FOCUSED 23 OBJECTIVES AND IN PARTICULAR WITHOUT HAVING GOALS AGAINST 24 WHICH TO MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THE ANNUAL PLAN. I THINK 25 THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT DOCUMENT FOR THE DISTRICT TO USE. JUNE 24, 2010 220 1 AND IT'S A PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT DOCUMENT FOR THE BOARD 2 TO USE. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD SAY CANDIDLY THAT, 4 ONCE AGAIN, WE DO NEED A RETREAT AS A BOARD IN TERMS TO 5 GIVE THIS CHANCELLOR THE DIRECTION THAT HE MIGHT NEED JUST 6 SO AT LEAST HE WOULD KNOW WHERE THE BOARD IS COMING FROM, 7 AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND WE DO NEED A RETREAT. AND 10 I THINK WE WILL SEE A MORE ROBUST AND FOCUSED ANNUAL PLAN. 11 AND I THINK AN ANNUAL PLAN THAT YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH 12 WHEN WE HAVE A RETREAT. 13 SO LIKE I SAID, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO -- 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: I TASKED VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO 15 WITH MAKING IT HAPPEN. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE'LL GET SOME NEW ENERGY AND 18 CHANGE THINGS. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BUT I GENUINELY THINK THAT IF 20 WE HAVE A RETREAT, I THINK THAT THE ANNUAL PLAN WOULD BE 21 MORE FOCUSED AND MORE IN TUNE WITH THE GOALS. I THINK 22 THAT'S THE REASON WHY SOME OF OUR GOALS AREN'T REFLECTED 23 SOMETIMES LIKE YOU THINK BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A RETREAT 24 TO ACTUALLY PUT FORTH A VISION OF WHAT THIS BOARD WANTS IN 25 A SPECIFIC POLICIES. SO I REALLY THINK THAT ONCE A JUNE 24, 2010 221 1 RETREAT HAPPENS, WE WILL SEE EVERYTHING ELSE THERE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: GREAT. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, IN MY OWN DEFENSE, 4 WE DID PUT OUT A -- I THINK LINDA SHAW PUT OUT A THING FOR 5 DATES. EVERYBODY GO OPEN THE INTERNET AND PICK YOUR DATE 6 THAT WAY WE CAN GET A LOT OF REPLIES, SO WE WILL JUST HAVE 7 TO DO THAT THEN FOR A DATE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS WONDERING IF WE 10 COULD TABLE THIS. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I SECOND THAT. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: WHY? 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: RATHER THAN HAVING A 15 BUNCH OF VOTING "NO." 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN WHEN DO WE NEED AN 17 ANNUAL PLAN, LIKE I MEAN -- 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: THE MOTION TO TABLE BY VICE 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 WELL, HERE'S THE PROBLEM. WE JUST APPROVED A 21 TENTATIVE BUDGET FROM WHICH -- THAT TENTATIVE BUDGET IS 22 DEVELOPED FROM THE ANNUAL PLAN, SO I'M NOT EXACTLY CERTAIN 23 WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THE TENTATIVE 24 BUDGET IF WE THEN DON'T CHANGE -- I GUESS WE COULD -- IF 25 WE CHANGE THINGS AROUND IN THE ANNUAL PLAN. JUNE 24, 2010 222 1 I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT BEHIND IT, BUT 2 I'M NOT EXACTLY CERTAIN HOW WE CAN DRASTICALLY CHANGE THIS 3 ANNUAL PLAN. IF WE VOTE FOR IT LATER, WE WILL BE 4 SIGNIFICANTLY OUT OF SYNC WITH THE PROCESS. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN I THINK WE SHOULD IN 6 THE MOTION SAY THAT WE WILL BE HAVING A RETREAT WITHIN THE 7 NEXT MONTH. I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE US THE EMPHASIS. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR 9 TO TABLE IT UNTIL ANOTHER TIME. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: UNTIL WE HAVE A RETREAT. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU HAVE TO -- 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WOULD POINT OUT THAT A 13 MOTION TO TABLE IS NOT DEBATABLE. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. THAT'S FINE. YOU ARE 15 RIGHT. 16 SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON THE MOTION TO 18 TABLE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING 21 THIS MOTION OR THIS RESOLUTION, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 22 I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A ROLL CALL BECAUSE IT'S 23 GOING TO BE TOO HARD, SO I CAN JUST DO IT. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: COME BACK TO ME. JUNE 24, 2010 223 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M GOING TO VOTE "NO." 4 TRUSTEE GRIER. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: I'M SORRY? 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE ARE VOTING ON TABLING THE 7 ANNUAL PLAN UNTIL -- 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WE HAVE A RETREAT. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- SOMETIME. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHEN IS THE SOMETIME? 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M GOING TO VOTE "NO" IF WE 12 DON'T HAVE A TIME. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET'S JUST DO THIS, AND IF IT 15 DOESN'T SUCCEED, THEN WE WILL DO IT ANOTHER WAY. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M GOING TO PUT "NO" BECAUSE 17 WE DON'T HAVE A TIME. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO, FOR TRUSTEE JACKSON; AND 19 YES, FOR TRUSTEE RIZZO; NO, FOR ME. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: NO FOR ME. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO, FOR TRUSTEE BERG; NO, FOR 22 TRUSTEE WONG. 23 WE HAVE "YES" FOR TRUSTEE FANG. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, 25 I WILL ABSTAIN. JUNE 24, 2010 224 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, AND TRUSTEE GRIER. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: I THOUGHT I VOTED. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: DIDN'T I VOTE? 5 ARE WE VOTING A SECOND TIME? 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO, I DIDN'T HEAR THE VOTE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: THIS IS THE MOTION TO TABLE. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, NO. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THE MOTION FAILS. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO ONE, "YES." 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD JUST CANDIDLY SAY, CAN 12 WE ADD IN UNTIL WE HAVE A RETREAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT 14 MOTION? 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MOVE TO TABLE UNTIL WE HAVE 18 A RETREAT AND BE THAT RETREAT WITHIN A MONTH. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON AND 20 SECONDED BY -- 21 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECOND. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- TRUSTEE RIZZO. 23 ANY DISCUSSION ON TABLING -- 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S A MOTION TO A TIME 25 CERTAIN. JUNE 24, 2010 225 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: SO WE NEED TO TABLE IT AGAIN? 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: THIS IS WITH A TIME, SOMEWHAT 4 OF A TIME. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I PUT MOVED TO TABLE UNTIL WE 6 HAVE A RETREAT AND THAT THAT RETREAT WOULD BE WITHIN ONE 7 MONTH. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A RETREAT? 9 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, WE HAVEN'T HAD A RETREAT IN 10 QUITE A WHILE. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: BECAUSE -- 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO BUILD 13 SOME URGENCY INTO THIS RESOLUTION. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, I MEAN LET'S GET REAL HERE. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN, IT'S JULY. WE ARE NOT 16 EVEN HAVING A BOARD MEETING IN JULY. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION IN 18 TERMS OF INFORMATION OR CLARITY, THAT'S ONE THING. BUT AS 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO HAS POINTED OUT, WE CAN'T DEBATE IT. 20 SO IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF -- IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, 21 THAT'S ONE THING, BUT OTHERWISE -- 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I HAVE A POINT OF INFORMATION. 23 WE ARE NOT HAVING A BOARD MEETING IN JULY, RIGHT? 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES, WE ARE. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, WE ARE. JUNE 24, 2010 226 1 TRUSTEE BERG: WE DIDN'T USED TO. WE ARE NOW. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: STATE LAW REQUIRES US TO MEET 3 EVERY MONTH. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY 5 THAT THAT JULY BOARD MEETING SHOULD BE THE RETREAT DATE. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: OH, IT COULD BE. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THAT DOESN'T PRESUME THAT 8 WE CAN'T HAVE THAT AS A RETREAT DATE, RIGHT? 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY, THEN I WOULD SAY THE 11 LAST THURSDAY OF JULY. AND WE CAN ACTUALLY -- SINCE THE 12 RETREAT IS ALMOST LIKE A BOARD MEETING, WE CAN ACTUALLY 13 HAVE THE RETREAT AND THEN PASS THE ANNUAL PLAN AT THE 14 RETREAT. THE JULY BOARD MEETING WOULD BE A RETREAT BOARD 15 MEETING. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO THIS IS A MOTION TO TABLE 17 S12 UNTIL HOLDING A BOARD RETREAT ON THE LAST THURSDAY OF 18 JULY, WHATEVER THAT IS. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: JULY 29TH. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME, JULY 28TH (SIC). 21 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE MOTION IS NOT SAYING 22 WE ARE GOING TO HOLD A RETREAT. IT IS NOT A MOTION TO 23 HOLD A RETREAT ON THAT DATE. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S JUST TO HOLD A RETREAT ON 25 THE JULY BOARD MEETING. JUNE 24, 2010 227 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: WELL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN 2 MAKE THAT MOTION. HOLD IT. AND MAYBE YOU CAN -- 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: FINE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- HOLD IT JULY 28TH (SIC). 5 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT ABOUT DISCUSSION -- 6 TRUSTEE BERG: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO 7 TABLE. SO NOW EVERYTHING IS GETTING ALL JUMBLED. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE WERE DEFINING THE DATE TO 9 WHICH -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: TABLE TO A TIME CERTAIN. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: UNTIL WHICH TIME IT WILL BE 12 TABLE, WHICH IS JULY 28TH (SIC). 13 TRUSTEE WONG: HE HAS MOVED IT ALREADY AND 14 SECONDED IT. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION NOW. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, I NEED TO SAY THAT I WILL 20 NOT BE PRESENT IN JULY. I ALREADY KNOW THAT I WILL NOT BE 21 HERE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: SAY IT AGAIN. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL NOT BE HERE. I KNOW THAT 24 I WILL NOT BE HERE. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET'S VOTE AND THEN SEE WHERE JUNE 24, 2010 228 1 WE ARE AT THAT POINT. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: WE CAN'T HAVE A RETREAT WHEN WE 3 ARE MISSING. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. 5 SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: ABSTAIN. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M TRYING. I'M TRYING. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, I MADE THE MOTION, YES. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M GOING TO VOTE, NO. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHAT? 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: TABLING THIS UNTIL JULY 28TH 16 (SIC)? 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE BERG. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE WONG. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT FAILS. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT FAILS. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, I MEAN I TRIED TO GIVE 25 US A DATE CERTAIN. JUNE 24, 2010 229 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A 2 DIFFERENT MOTION TO TABLE? 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I TRIED TO GIVE US A DATE 4 CERTAIN. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CONCERN, IS THAT WE -- 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF THERE'S NO OTHER MOTION TO 6 TABLE, THEN WE SHOULD VOTE ON THIS. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: VOTE ON WHAT? 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: ON S12. WE HAVE NO MOTIONS. 9 WE DEFEATED TWO MOTIONS TO TABLE THIS. SO WE NOW WE VOTE 10 ON THE MAIN MOTION. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: ALL RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: HAS IT BEEN MOVED? 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT'S BEEN SECONDED AND MOVED 14 AT THE BEGINNING. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: I DON'T REMEMBER BY WHOM AT 17 THIS POINT, BUT THE -- 18 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND 19 SECONDED ON THE MAIN MOTION. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES, IT WAS. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: ALL RIGHT. CALL FOR THE VOTE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE FANG, DO YOU WANT TO 23 ABSTAIN AGAIN? 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I'LL ABSTAIN. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, I'M GOING TO DO THE ROLL JUNE 24, 2010 230 1 CALL AGAIN FOR S12. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YES. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M GOING TO VOTE NO. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE BERG. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE WONG. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: YES. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IT FAILS. 14 WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE 15 LACK OF AN ANNUAL PLAN LATER. 16 COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR S13, PLEASE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT MARKS. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: THESE ARE ALL RESOLUTIONS AND 22 RECOGNITIONS -- 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM 24 TOGETHER? 25 TRUSTEE WONG: -- S13-S23. JUNE 24, 2010 231 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: AS LONG AS NOBODY IN ANY WAY 2 IS OFFENDED. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM ARE 4 HERE TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'VE DONE 16-23 ARE NOT 6 HERE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AND THEN WE CAN MENTION ALL THE 8 NAMES ALL AT ONCE AND MENTION -- 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: SO I MOVE THAT WE RESOLUTIONS 11 S13-S23. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE'VE DONE THOSE. 13 HAVEN'T WE? 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. NO. WE'VE DONE 16-23 15 ALREADY. 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S 15, 13-15. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S 13, 14, 15. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: S13. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: 13, 14, AND 15. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: S14 AND S15. WE VOTED ON 21 THOSE. YOU MAY HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE ROOM. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, WE DID S16 ALREADY? 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. WE DID 16-23. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: WHERE WAS I? OKAY, I MAY HAVE 25 STEPPED OUT. I'M SORRY. JUNE 24, 2010 232 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S OKAY. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, THEN I MOVE S13, S14, AND 3 S15 IN RECOGNITION. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT'S MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG TO 6 DO S13, S14, AND S15 TOGETHER. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CALL THE QUESTION. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. AND A 9 TWO-THIRDS VOTE. 10 CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING AND THEN WE WILL VOTE. 11 I JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT THAT THESE THREE 12 RESOLUTIONS ARE TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE DEDICATED AND 13 OUTSTANDING SERVICE OF CITY COLLEGE'S RETIRING FACULTY 14 MEMBERS, REFIRING CLASSIFIED STAFF, AND RETIRING 15 ADMINISTRATORS. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S13, 19 S14, AND S15, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 233 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 3 THOSE ALL PASS. 4 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S24, PLEASE. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE 9 AMENDMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED FOR THE ORIGINATOR. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: I NEED A SECOND FIRST. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: I DID. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: TRUSTEE BERG DID. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. I'M 14 SORRY. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN 16 AMENDMENT -- 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- JUST TO ADD MY NAME AS AN 19 ORIGINATOR. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S FINE. WE WILL ADD YOUR 21 NAME AS AN ORIGINATOR. THAT REALLY DOESN'T REQUIRE AN 22 AMENDMENT. SO IF WE COULD JUST RECORD THAT AS TRUSTEE 23 JACKSON BEING THE THIRD TRUSTEE. 24 SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: ON S24? JUNE 24, 2010 234 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: S24. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S24, 4 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 5 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 13 S24 PASSES. 14 AND THE LAST RESOLUTION IS W1. 15 WILL SOMEONE MOVE W1, PLEASE. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO MOVED. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. I'M 18 LOOKING FOR A SECOND. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 21 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON W1? 22 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF W1, 25 PLEASE SAY, "AYE." JUNE 24, 2010 235 1 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 9 W1 PASSES. 10 NOW WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT. BOARD OF TRUSTEES 11 REPORTS. 12 WHY DON'T WE START WITH TRUSTEE JACKSON AND GIVE 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG TIME TO -- SINCE IT'S HIS FIRST 14 MEETING. YOU WILL GO LAST. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SURE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO REPORT. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WANTED TO BRING UP THE 20 ISSUE OF READING OUT FROM THE CLOSED SESSION. I REALLY 21 BELIEVE THAT THE READOUTS FOR THE CLOSED SESSION SHOULD 22 HAPPEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE DID THAT. 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DID IT TONIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND WE SHOULD SWITCH IT TO JUNE 24, 2010 236 1 EVERY MEETING AS SOON AS WE COME BACK -- RIGHT AFTER THE 2 PLEDGE OF A ALLEGIANCE IS WHERE IT SHOULD GO. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. I ALSO WANTED TO 4 SAY I WAS AT A LUNCHEON FOR SOME OF THE RETIRING 5 ADMINISTRATORS. AND THERE'S A LOT YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THEM 6 BUT THIS CROWD WAS REALLY A LOT OF VERY, VERY 7 DISTINGUISHED PEOPLE IN THIS CROWD ALL RETIRING AT ONE. 8 AND I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO GET TO KNOW SEVERAL 9 OF THEM, NOT ALL OF THEM. BUT THE ONES THAT I DID GET TO 10 KNOW, I LEARNED A LOT FROM THEM. AND I DON'T WANT TO NAME 11 NAMES BECAUSE THEN I'M LEAVING OUT PEOPLE, BUT I'M REALLY 12 SORRY TO SEE A LOT THESE ADMINISTRATORS RETIRE. I'M SORRY 13 ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, BUT I WISH THEM VERY WELL. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: I DON'T HAVE A REPORT EITHER. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: I'M SORRY. WHAT? 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANY REPORT? 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO REPORT. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE BERG. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, YEAH, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE 21 PROBLEM HERE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 23 TRUSTEE BERG: WE HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM. ONE OF 24 THE RESOLUTIONS -- 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: I KNOW. I'M GOING TO DO THAT. JUNE 24, 2010 237 1 LET'S DO THIS FIRST AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU WANT TO DO THIS FIRST, THE 3 TRUSTEE REPORT. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, JUST IN GENERAL TO 6 COMPLIMENT THE COLLEGE FOR COMING UP WITH A BUDGET IN 7 THESE REALLY DISASTROUS TIMES. AND TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO 8 HAS REALLY PICKED UP EXTRA WORK, LOST HOURS, SPENT A LOT 9 OF TIME WORKING TO MAKE THE COLLEGE CONTINUE WORKING AND 10 BE AS WONDERFUL AS IT IS. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY. 11 IT'S BEEN A REALLY EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT YEAR. AND I 12 THINK PROBABLY ONE OF THE WORST I CAN REMEMBER IN ALL THE 13 MANY, MANY, YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE. 14 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY AS WE ALL LEAVE FOR OUR 15 VARIOUS OCCUPATIONS OVER THE SUMMER. I WANT TO THANK YOU, 16 AND I WANT TO SAY IT'S BEEN A GREAT YEAR. YOU HAVE JUST 17 DONE AN AMAZING, AMAZING JOB UNDER REALLY, REALLY 18 DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES. 19 AND THE COLLEGE JUST WENT ON AS IF THERE WAS NO 20 HICCUP. YOU JUST GOING. YOU KEPT TRUCKING ALONG. SO I 21 THINK THAT THIS IS -- I'M SORRY MORE PEOPLE AREN'T HERE TO 22 HEAR THIS, BUT I REALLY WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE 23 APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY, ALL OF 24 THE STUDENTS, EVERYBODY HAS BENEFITTED FROM ALL OF YOUR 25 VERY, VERY HARD EXTRAORDINARY WORK, SO THANK YOU. JUNE 24, 2010 238 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 2 TRUSTEE WONG. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: IF I MAY THROUGH THE PRESIDENT, 4 ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF TRUSTEE BERG AND SO MANY OF YOU WHO 5 ARE LEAVING, I'VE KNOWN AS I SAID FOR 16 YEARS. 6 I'VE KNOWN HOW HARD YOU HAVE WORKED. HOW 7 DEDICATED YOU HAVE BEEN. AND I CAN'T IMAGINE CITY COLLEGE 8 OF SAN FRANCISCO WITHOUT SO MANY OF YOU WHO ARE RETIRING. 9 IT FEELS LIKE A DIFFERENT INSTITUTION AND WILL FEEL LIKE A 10 DIFFERENT INSTITUTION WITHOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS. 11 AND PLEASE KNOW THAT BECAUSE I KNOW FOR SURE 12 THAT YOU HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS 13 AND THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS AND YOUR COLLEAGUES AND EVEN 14 THOSE OF US ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THAT YOU HAVE DONE SO 15 MUCH. 16 SO HAVING SAID THAT, ALSO THIS WEEK IS PRIDE 17 WEEK. AND SUNDAY IS THE PARADE, THE PRIDE PARADE. A 18 REMINDER THAT WE DO HAVE THE FIRST AND ONE OF THE LARGEST 19 LGBT STUDIES DEPARTMENT IN THE WORLD. AND WE SHOULD BE 20 VERY PROUD OF THAT. 21 AND IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO 22 SUPPORT OUR CONTINGENT WHICH WILL BE TAKING OFF AT -- 23 WELL, WE WILL BE MEETING AT 10:00 A.M. ON SPEAR STREET 24 BETWEEN HOWARD AND MISSION, RIGHT? 25 KAREN? JUNE 24, 2010 239 1 MS. SAGINOR: YES. IT'S BETWEEN HOWARD AND 2 FOLSOM. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: HOWARD AND FOLSOM. IT'S 4 CONTINGENT NO. 62. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: HOWARD AND SANSOME? NO, THEY 6 DON'T RUN THE SAME WAY. 7 MS. SAGINOR: HOWARD AND FOLSOM IN LOT H. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: HOWARD AND FOLSOM. AND IT'S 9 CONTINGENT 62. SO IT'S ALWAYS VERY GRATIFYING TO SEE CITY 10 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO HAVE A LARGE SHOWING BECAUSE WE 11 HAVE BEEN PIONEERS IN THE LGBT STUDIES DEPARTMENT AND THIS 12 IS I BELIEVE THE 40TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE PRIDE 13 CELEBRATION. I BELIEVE IT'S THE 40TH. SO IT'S A PRETTY 14 BIG DEAL. 15 SO WE INVITE ALL OF YOU TO PARTICIPATE, AND I 16 THINK YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT TIME. THANK YOU. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WELL, THANK YOU, 20 PRESIDENT MARKS. 21 COMING INTO THIS POSITION, I WILL VERY MUCH 22 DEDICATE MYSELF TO INCREASE COMMUNICATION AND AWARENESS OF 23 WHAT IS GOING ON HERE AT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEE TO THE 24 STUDENTS. I BELIEVE THAT IS MUCH NEEDED AND NECESSARY. I 25 SEE -- I HAVE A BRIGHT PROSPECT OF THAT HAPPENING FROM ALL JUNE 24, 2010 240 1 CONSISTENCY GROUPS IN THE SCHOOL. 2 AND ALSO RIGHT NOW I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE 3 GENEROUS ASSISTANTS THAT HAD BEEN LENT TO ME IN TERMS OF 4 GETTING THROUGH THIS LEARNING CURVE, STEPPING INTO THIS 5 POSITION FROM ALL CONSTITUENCIES AND ALL GROUPS IN THE 6 COLLEGE. 7 AND LASTLY, GIVEN THE DIFFICULT BUDGET CRISIS WE 8 ARE IN, WE THE STUDENTS HAVE BEGUN BRAINSTORMING AS WELL 9 TRYING TO COME UP WITH FUND-RAISING IDEAS TO DO WHAT WE 10 CAN TO HELP IN THE COLLEGE. AND HOPEFULLY, WE WILL HAVE 11 GOOD IDEAS TO REPORT ON. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 13 WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AGAIN AT A RESOLUTION 14 THAT WE PASSED. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: TRUSTEE MARKS, I'M GOING TO MOVE 16 OFFICIALLY TO RECONSIDER S4. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS 19 RESIGNED IT. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, YOU RECONSIDER. I VOTED ON 21 THE PREVAILING SIDE. AND I CAN OFFICIALLY MOVE TO 22 RECONSIDER AND AT THAT POINT WE CAN AMEND. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I -- WILL 24 DO THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S A CHANGE THOUGH. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: IT DOESN'T MATTER. JUNE 24, 2010 241 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. I WILL SECOND IT. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: IT DOESN'T MATTER. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT WAS MOVED AND TRUSTEE 4 JACKSON SECONDED IT. 5 I GUESS WHAT WE NEED IS AN EXPLANATION ABOUT 6 WHAT'S GOING ON. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I THINK THAT THERE WAS A SECOND 8 SUBSTITUTE VERSION OF THE RESOLUTION WHICH HAD TWO 9 DIFFERENCES ON IT AS I LOOKED AT IT. 10 AND YOU ALL HAVE COPIES. AND THERE ARE COPIES 11 ON THE TABLE OVER THERE IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS IT. 12 ONE IS A CLARIFICATION OF WHICH ADMINISTRATORS 13 WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A STEP INCREASE IN 2010-2011. AND, 14 OF COURSE, THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED FURLOUGH DAY PACKAGE 15 THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT SO THOSE ADMINISTRATORS DON'T 16 ACTUALLY GET ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY. 17 AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT CLARIFICATION, ON 18 THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE WAY OF 19 THE REDUCTION IN WAGES IS CALCULATED SO THAT FOLKS ARE NOT 20 HAVING THEIR WAGES REDUCED FOR MONEY THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY 21 RECEIVING. THAT'S THE WAY I READ THE SECOND ONE. SO THAT 22 THE REDUCTION IN THEIR WAGES IS BASED ON THE MONEY THEY 23 ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING AS OPPOSED TO ADDITIONAL MONEY THEY 24 ARE NOT ACTUALLY RECEIVING IN 2010-2011. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: SO WAIT, BEFORE YOU GO. I NEED JUNE 24, 2010 242 1 CLARITY ON THIS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE 2 DOING. 3 WHAT ARE WE CHANGING ON THE RESOLUTION THAT WE 4 PASSED? THIS IS A COMPLETE RESOLUTION, SO YOU ARE 5 CHANGING PART OF IT. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S CORRECT. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: THIS IS AN ADDENDUM TO THE -- 8 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, BUT SOME OF THIS IS GOING 9 TO HAVE TO COME OUT I THINK. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I WILL TRY TO GET YOU TO THE 11 RIGHT PLACE HERE. 12 OKAY, UNDER NO. 1, "STEPS AND FURLOUGHS," THAT 13 FIRST PARAGRAPH, THERE'S A SUBSTITUTE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY 14 ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO 15 JUST SUBSTITUTE THE WHOLE PARAGRAPH ON THE NEW SHEET FOR 16 THE PARAGRAPH THAT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL SHEET. THE VERY 17 FIRST PARAGRAPH ON THE "STEPS FURLOUGHS." I WILL STOP FOR 18 A MOMENT WHILE YOU READ THAT. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AND WHAT ABOUT THIS "FURTHER BE 20 IT RESOLVED," DOES THAT STAY, IN THE ORIGINAL ONE? 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE "FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED" IS 22 OKAY. BUT UNDER "SALARY REDUCTION," LET ME QUICKLY CHECK 23 HERE. THERE IS -- IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IS A SHORTENING. 24 LET'S JUST AGAIN SAY "A SUBSTITUTE" BECAUSE THAT 25 WOULD BE SIMPLER. THAT VERY LAST SENTENCE ON THE ONE-PAGE JUNE 24, 2010 243 1 HANDOUT, "FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS SECTION, A TWO BASE 2 SALARY SHALL BE DEFINED AS THE 2008-2009 RATE FOR THE 3 COLUMN STEP BE OCCUPY IN 2010-2011 WITHOUT REFERENCE TO 4 PARAGRAPH 1 ABOVE." THAT'S A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE LONGER 5 SENTENCE IN THE SAME PLACE UNDERNEATH THE SALARY CUT 6 PERCENTAGES ON THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: SO WAIT A MINUTE, ARE WE TAKING 8 OUT THE ORIGINAL ONE AND ADDING THE ONE THAT YOU -- 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ON THE NEW SHEET, RIGHT. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU ARE ADDING THE ONE THAT'S ON 11 THIS NEW SHEET? 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S 13 ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S CHANGED IN HERE. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: SO THE SALARY NUMBER IS TO REMAIN 15 THE SAME, BUT THE "FOR PURPOSES PARAGRAPH" GOES OUT, IS 16 THAT CORRECT ON THE OLD ONE? 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I'M QUICKLY CHECKING. NOW 18 THERE'S ANOTHER CLARIFICATION. IT WILL BE CLEANER TO TAKE 19 THE ENTIRE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE YOU AND SUBSTITUTE IT FOR 20 EVERYTHING STARTING WITH THE "RESOLVED" IN THE ORIGINAL 21 RESOLUTION AND ENDING JUST BEFORE THE "FURTHER BE IT 22 RESOLVED." THAT WOULD BE CLEANER. 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT ISN'T THERE A BROWN 24 ACT ISSUE HERE? 25 TRUSTEE BERG: I GOT IT. JUNE 24, 2010 244 1 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE TAKING OUT AN 2 REVISED RESOLUTION AND SUBSTITUTING IN SOMETHING THAT'S 3 DIFFERENT. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER 5 TO COUNSEL WHETHER THESE ARE SUCH SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES THAT 6 THEY WOULD BE A THREAT TO THE BROWN ACT. 7 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WELL, AS I READ, IT READS 8 SOMEWHAT SIMILAR, BUT THIS IS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, SO YOU 9 MAY NEED TO YOU -- 10 TRUSTEE WONG: I THOUGHT IT WAS A SUBSTITUTE. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE WE ARE DELETING, 13 "PLUS THE AMOUNT OF SALARY REDUCTION" TO THIS PARAGRAPH. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES. 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WHERE ARE WE? 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IN NO. 2. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT PARAGRAPH SAYS, "FOR 19 PURPOSES OF THIS PARAGRAPH." IN THE -- 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEAH, I SEE WHAT YOU ARE 21 SAYING. 22 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE LAST CLAUSE DOES NOT 23 APPEAR -- 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IN THE RESOLUTION. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- IN THE NEW RESOLUTION, JUNE 24, 2010 245 1 AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE RIGHT THERE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET 5 SOME TIME NEXT WEEK. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO THAT WOULD BE BEFORE 8 JUNE 30TH. IF WE COULD NOTICE THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE 9 DATE YET, BUT IF WE COULD NOTICE THIS PROPERLY AND THEN 10 VOTE ON IT AT THAT TIME SO THAT WE DO IT BEFORE THE END OF 11 THE YEAR -- 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO S4 THAT WE VOTED ON 13 WOULD STAND UNTIL WE COME UP WITH A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION 14 NEXT TIME. 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO 16 VOTE TO RESCIND IT. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: EXCUSE ME, YEAH. TECHNICALLY, WE 18 CAN SUBSTITUTE. IF ARE GOING TO SUBSTITUTE A MOTION, YOU 19 CAN GUT THE ENTIRE ORIGINAL MOTION. SO THERE IS NO 20 PROBLEM WITH US SUBSTITUTING THIS IF WE WANT TO. IT'S UP 21 TO YOU. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER 23 OR NOT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL, WHICH WE 24 DON'T HAVE TO DO, OR IF WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL IS JUNE 24, 2010 246 1 WHAT THAT THIS IS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE -- 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: -- THAT HAS NOT BEEN NOTICED. IS 4 THAT THE ISSUE -- 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: -- THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN NOTICED? 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S THE ISSUE. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: AND WHAT'S THE SUBSTANTIVE 9 CHANGE? 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I BELIEVE AS TRUSTEE RIZZO 11 SAID, WELL, MAYBE THIS ISN'T A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE. "THE 12 SALARY REDUCTIONS FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PARAGRAPH, EACH 13 ADMINISTRATOR'S BASE SALARY SHALL BE CALCULATED" -- OH, 14 SHALL BE DEFINED AS THE 2008-2009 RATE FOR THE COLUMN IN 15 STEP PAY -- OH, SEE, IT TAKES OUT "PLUS STEP MOVEMENT 16 PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH 1 PLUS THE AMOUNT OF SALARY 17 REDUCTION." 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: SO THAT IS SORT OF CHANGING 20 THIS. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I THINK IT'S A 22 CLARIFICATION. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH, I THINK IT IS VERY 24 CLEANER. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE. JUNE 24, 2010 247 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHEN WE MET WITH THE 2 ADMINISTRATORS, THEY POINTED OUT TO US THAT THE WAY THAT 3 THE ORIGINAL READING IS IT DID NOT GO TO THE INTENT AND IT 4 WAS UNCLEAR. AND THEY WANTED TO PUT CLARITY HERE WITH 5 THIS LANGUAGE. AND THAT'S WHY THEY ARE OFFERING THIS 6 LANGUAGE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS CHECKED BY OUTSIDE 7 COUNSEL JEFF SLOAN. 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND WE WERE ADVISED AT THAT 10 TIME THAT IT WAS NOT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, AND THAT'S WHY 11 WE ARE BRINGING IT AS AN AMENDMENT. 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE 14 FLOOR, RIGHT? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS 16 TO SUBSTITUTE THIS -- 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: -- BECAUSE OF THE RECOMMENDATION 19 OF OUR CHANCELLOR AND VICE CHANCELLOR. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET'S JUST VOTE ON THAT. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, CAN WE JUST TAKE A 22 VOTE -- 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- AND IF IT GOES DOWN, IT 25 GOES DOWN -- JUNE 24, 2010 248 1 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, YOU JUST NEED TO -- 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- AS LONG AS WE DO IT BEFORE 3 THE 30TH. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL -- 5 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND 7 SECONDED. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: CALL FOR THE QUESTION. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: ARE WE VOTING TO RECONSIDER? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, WE ARE VOTING TO MAKE S4 -- 11 COUNSEL BATTISTE: TO AMEND S4. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: WE ARE SUBSTITUTING. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THE VOTE IS TO GUT AND AMEND 14 THAT INTO THAT. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: I'M SUBSTITUTING THE NEW LANGUAGE 16 FOR THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: SO IT BECOMES S4 WITH THE NEW 20 LANGUAGE. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YES. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: NAY. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S4, JUNE 24, 2010 249 1 SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION EMPLOYEES SAY "AYE." 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO IS 12 OPPOSED. 13 CHANCELLOR. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON THE 15 RESOLUTION. THIS WAS TO AMEND. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION. I 17 WAS TOLD WHAT WE JUST VOTED ON WAS THE SUBSTITUTION. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN WE CAN TAKE A SECOND 19 VOTE. I'M FINE WITH THAT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO TALK 20 ABOUT IT MUCH MORE. THIS IS JUST A SIMPLE CLARIFICATION. 21 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE NEED A SECOND VOTE. 22 THERE WAS A MOTION TO AMEND. AND WE VOTED ON THE MOTION 23 TO AMEND AND NOW WE HAVE TO -- 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: RECONSIDER. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, THERE WAS A MOTION TO JUNE 24, 2010 250 1 SUBSTITUTE. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: TO RECONSIDER. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE VOTED ON THE MOTION TO 4 SUBSTITUTE. NOW WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE MOTION. THEY ARE 5 NOT THE SAME THING. THERE'S ALWAYS TWO VOTES. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: LET'S JUST TAKE A SECOND VOTE 7 THEN. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: TO MAKE EVERYONE COMFORTABLE, 9 LET'S JUST DO THAT. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: I'VE NEVER KNOWN THAT, BUT GO 11 AHEAD. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO THE VOTE BEFORE WAS TO 13 SUBSTITUTE SOMETHING. AND AS LONG AS EVERYONE'S VOTE 14 STANDS ON THAT ONE. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO NOW THE VOTE ON THE 17 SUBSTITUTED RESOLUTION. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: MOVE TO APPROVE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NEGATIVE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN -- 21 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT, NO DISCUSSION? 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: OH, SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU CAN 23 HAVE A DISCUSSION. 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD 25 DO THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK WHEN WE JUNE 24, 2010 251 1 ARE GOING TO MEET ANYWAY AND TAKE THIS UP BECAUSE I DON'T 2 THINK THIS IS -- PER THE BROWN ACT. I DON'T THINK -- YOU 3 CAN'T JUST BAIT AND SWITCH AN AGENDA. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU CAN'T -- OKAY, THAT'S 6 UNFAIR, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA 7 AND THEN AT THE MEETING SAY, WE ARE NOT GOING DO THAT HERE 8 HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WE HAVE DONE WHOLESALE OF 10 CHANGE TO THINGS ON THIS BOARD. WE HAVE DONE SOME SERIOUS 11 AMENDING TO SPECIFIC POLICIES. 12 I REMEMBER OUR FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE HAD 13 BREAKS SO THAT WE COULD CHANGE POLICIES AND THEN AMEND IT 14 SO MUCH, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO TAKE 5 AND 10 AND 15 MINUTE 15 BREAKS TO GET THE AMENDMENT RIGHT AND THEN PUT IT BACK 16 FORTH AGAIN. YOU CAN AMEND ANYTHING. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, YOU CAN. AND YOU CAN 18 SUBSTITUTE ANYTHING. THAT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL. THE REALITY 19 IS THIS IS NOT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE SO THAT WE ARE NOT IN 20 EFFECT CHANGING THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. WE ARE CHANGING 21 SOME OF THE LANGUAGE. WE ARE MOVING IT AROUND A LITTLE 22 BIT, BUT THE NUMBER REMAINS THE SAME, THE LANGUAGE IS JUST 23 CHANGED. THERE'S NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IN THIS 24 RESOLUTION. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, IT SAYS -- IT'S JUNE 24, 2010 252 1 DELETING THIS PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS, "THE ADMINISTRATOR 2 SHALL RECEIVE SALARY STEP INCREMENTS THROUGH JULY 1ST, 3 2010." IT'S DELETING THAT WHOLE PARAGRAPH. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT SEEMS TO BE 6 SUBSTANTIVE. THAT'S PART OF THE RESOLVED CLAUSE. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: (INAUDIBLE). 8 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S JUST RESTATED. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET'S JUST VOTE AND PEOPLE CAN 10 EXPRESS WITH THEIR VOTE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS CONSIDERED 11 A SUBSTANTIVE RESOLUTION. 12 SO THE MOTION IS TO SUBSTITUTE THIS RESOLUTION 13 FOR THE EARLIER RESOLUTION. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS THAT A YES OR -- 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HE SAID, "NAY." 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS 19 MOTION, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. JUNE 24, 2010 253 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS ANYBODY OPPOSED? 3 ARE YOU OPPOSED? 4 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, I AM NOT OPPOSED? 5 NO ONE IS OPPOSED. 6 NOW, YES, SIR. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: (INAUDIBLE) I HAVE NO 8 REPORT. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN I MOVE TO ADJOURN? 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: JUST ONE SECOND. I NEED TO 11 MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO REQUESTS TO SPEAK. 12 SO TRUSTEE JACKSON MOVED TO ADJOURN. I WOULD 13 LIKE TO, IF I COULD SINCE THIS IS THE END OF THE FISCAL 14 YEAR, IF WE COULD ADJOURN TONIGHT IN MEMORY OF ALL OF THE 15 STUDENTS AND FACULTY MEMBERS AND CLASSIFIED STAFF AND 16 ADMINISTRATORS WHO PASSED ON DURING THIS ENTIRE YEAR. 17 DOES SOMEONE WANT TO SECOND THE MOTION? 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECOND BY TRUSTEE RIZZO. 20 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING: 21 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: (ABSENT.) JUNE 24, 2010 254 1 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A MOMENT 5 BEFORE WE GO HOME, I'D APPRECIATE IT. IF WE COULD JUST 6 TAKE A MOMENT AND THEN WE WILL ADJOURN. 7 (A MOMENT OF SILENCE OBSERVED.) 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: GOOD NIGHT. IT'S 11:20. 9 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:20 P.M.) 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 JUNE 24, 2010 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. DATED: JULY 23, 2010 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 STATE OF CALIFORNIA