SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, AUGUST 26, 2010 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO GOUGH STREET CAMPUS 33 GOUGH STREET SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 NATALIE BERG 7 ANITA GRIER 8 CHRIS JACKSON 9 MILTON MARKS III 10 STEVE NGO 11 JOHN RIZZO 12 LAWRENCE WONG 13 14 15 DR. DON Q. GRIFFIN, CHANCELLOR 16 LEILANI BATTISTE, GENERAL COUNSEL 17 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 AUGUST 26, 2010 3 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 26, 2 2010, COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 6:44 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY 3 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, 33 GOUGH STREET, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD: 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 AUGUST 26, 2010 4 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER 2 THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE SAN FRANCISCO 3 COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. WE ARE MEETING ON THURSDAY, 4 AUGUST 26TH, 2010. IT IS 6:44, WHICH EVEN THOUGH WE ARE 5 LATE AS WE NORMALLY ARE, IT'S ACTUALLY 14 MINUTES LATE, 6 WHICH IS SOME TYPE OF RECORD I THINK FOR US. SO I 7 APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE ANYWAY. WE ARE MEETING TONIGHT 8 AT 33 GOUGH STREET. 9 CHANCELLOR, IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PRESIDENT MILTON MARKS. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: HERE. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: VICE PRESIDENT JOHN RIZZO. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. NATALIE BERG. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: HERE. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. ANITA GRIER. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: (NO RESPONSE.) 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: CHRIS JACKSON. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HERE. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STEVE NGO. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: LAWRENCE WONG. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: HERE. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: JEFFREY FANG. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: HERE. AUGUST 26, 2010 5 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I GUESS THAT'S IT. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF 3 ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. 4 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE HAVE TEN MINUTES OF PUBLIC 6 COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETINGS ON SUBJECTS THAT 7 ARE NOT BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT. 8 I HAVE ONE CARD FROM A SPEAKER. AND IF THERE'S 9 ANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK, WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE 10 TWO MINUTES APIECE. 11 THE FIRST ONE IS MADELINE MULLER. 12 MS. MUELLER: GOOD EVENING. I'M MADELINE 13 MUELLER, CHAIR OF THE MUSIC DEPARTMENT. 14 LAST MEETING YOU ADJOURNED IN PART IN MEMORY OF 15 THE PASSING OF ONE OF OUR LONGTIME TEACHERS IN THE MUSIC 16 DEPARTMENT. AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AT THAT TIME 17 BECAUSE I WANTED TO CHECK WITH THE STUDENTS, THE SCHOOL 18 WASN'T IN SESSION YET, AS TO WHAT DATE WOULD BE BEST FOR 19 ALL FOR A MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR FRANK TOWNSELL. 20 THIS WEEK CITY CURRENTS HAS THE OBITUARY FOR 21 HIM. AND I'VE ASKED FOR EXTRA COPIES TO BE GIVEN TO YOU. 22 I HAVE A FEW EXTRAS THAT OTHERS MAY WANT TO READ. 23 FRANK WAS A FANTASTIC PIANIST, A FANTASTIC 24 TEACHER, A FANTASTIC RESEARCHER INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED. 25 AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN ALL COME TO HIS MEMORIAL CONCERT, AUGUST 26, 2010 6 1 WHICH WILL BE ON OCTOBER 15TH, FRIDAY AT 12:00 O'CLOCK IN 2 THE CREATIVE ARTS BUILDING 133, THE CORAL ROOM. THANK 3 YOU. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHO IS NEXT? 5 SUSAN. 6 MS. BOECKMAN: HI, AGAIN. I'M HERE TO ANNOUNCE 7 AGAIN AN EVENT THAT ONE OF THE STUDENTS CLUBS FROM CITY 8 DANCERS IS PRODUCING. IT'S A CHARITY EVENT RAISING MONEY 9 FOR HUMANITARIAN WORK IN HAITI. 10 LINDA SHAW IS PASSING OUT FLIERS NOW. IT'S 11 SATURDAY FROM 7:00 TO 11:00. WE ARE ASKING A DONATION OF 12 $20. THERE'S GOING TO BE DANCING, FOOD, PERFORMANCES, 13 SPEAKERS. IT'S GOING TO BE INSANE. IT'S THE BIGGEST 14 THING WE'VE EVER DONE. WE ARE EXPECTING UP TO 500 PEOPLE 15 IN THE WELLNESS CENTER, SO YOU ARE ALL INVITED. AND I 16 KNOW JEFFREY IS GOING TO BE THERE. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, I WILL. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO 19 WANTS TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? 20 STATE YOUR NAME. 21 MS. WELLINGTON: HI, I'M BETH WELLINGTON. 22 PUBLIC SPEAKING IS NOT MY FORTE, SO I APOLOGIZE. I AM A 23 LITTLE NERVOUS. 24 I'M HERE BECAUSE THE ART DEPARTMENT EXPERIENCED 25 A CLASS THAT WAS CUT OUT OF THE METAL ARTS PROGRAM. AND I AUGUST 26, 2010 7 1 CONCERNED THAT WE ARE LOSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET 2 CREATIVE PROGRAMS OUT TO STUDENTS. AND I SAW MANY, MANY 3 STUDENTS TURNED AWAY DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT LAST WEEK. 4 THERE'S A RUMOR THAT THE COURSE WAS CUT AND THE 5 FUNDS WERE GIVEN TO THE MATH DEPARTMENT. AND I WOULD LIKE 6 TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH AREAS OF 7 STUDY. AND I JUST URGE YOU TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO CONTINUE 8 FUNDING THE ARTS. THANK YOU. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: WHICH CLASS WAS IT? 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHICH ART CLASS? 11 MS. WELLINGTON: METAL ARTS 180 A, B, AND C. IT 12 IS A CONCURRENT PROGRAM. IT WAS HELD TUESDAYS AND 13 THURSDAYS. THE COURSE WAS CUT TO GIVE THE MONEY TO THE 14 MATH DEPARTMENT IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: WHO TOLD YOU THAT? 16 MS. WELLINGTON: I HEARD IT FROM ONE OF THE 17 OTHER STUDENTS. 18 THE CONCERN I HAVE IS I AM GOING ON AN 19 ASSUMPTION THAT A MATH CLASS COULD HAVE MORE SEATS ADDED 20 TO THE CLASS AND STUDENTS CAN BE ACCOMMODATED. 21 IN THE METAL ARTS PROGRAM, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 22 LIMITED WORK STATIONS AND SAFETY OF STUDENTS SO YOU DO 23 HAVE TO KEEP THE SIZES LIMITED. SO I THINK THAT THERE 24 SHOULD BE A WAY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH MATH 25 STUDENTS AND ART STUDENTS. I DON'T WANT TO PIT ANY AUGUST 26, 2010 8 1 DEPARTMENT AGAINST ANOTHER. THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION. 2 BUT I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A WAY TO 3 ENSURE THAT STUDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING TO LEARN METAL ARTS 4 AND ANY OF THE ART DISCIPLINES ARE ENCOURAGED TO FIND A 5 SPACE AND HAVE A PLACE TO WORK SAFELY. 6 AND MATH STUDENTS I AM ASSUMING THAT YOU 7 ACTUALLY JUST INCREASE THE ROOM SIZE AND ENROLLMENT SIZE 8 AND WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I ALSO DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT 10 IT NECESSARILY WENT TO THE MATH DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW 11 IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT. 12 MS. WELLINGTON: AND AS I SAID, THAT'S WHAT I'VE 13 HEARD. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 15 MS. WELLINGTON: I DON'T HAVE ANY REAL 16 INFORMATION OTHER THAN THAT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 18 MS. WELLINGTON: WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS THAT THE 19 COURSE WAS CUT PERMANENTLY ON TOP OF SUMMER CUTS. 20 OBVIOUSLY, THE WHOLE SUMMER SESSION WAS CUT, WHICH WAS 21 DISAPPOINTING AS WELL, BUT THOSE ADDITIONAL CUTS ARE 22 DISTRESSING. AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOU CAN FIND A WAY TO 23 FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FUND PROGRAMS TO CATER TO ALL THE 24 STUDENTS. 25 IT'S FUNNY I HAVE BEEN LOOKING UP AT YOUR AUGUST 26, 2010 9 1 MISSION AND THE FIRST ONE IS TEACHING AND LEARNING. AND I 2 KNOW IT'S TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES, BUT I'M SURE THERE IS A 3 SOLUTION OUT THERE. AND I'M HERE TO JUST SAY I HOPE YOU 4 CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 6 MS. WELLINGTON: THANK YOU. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OUR POLICY THIS SEMESTER -- 8 ACTUALLY, WE'VE ADDED OVER 100 SECTIONS IN THE FALL TERM. 9 AND WE ARE ALSO ADDING, OF COURSE, LOTS OF SECTIONS FOR 10 THE SUMMER THAT'S COMING UP. BUT OUR POLICY HAS NOT BEEN 11 TO CUT ANY SECTIONS AT THE COLLEGE. 12 SO I WILL DO AN INVESTIGATION ON THIS BECAUSE 13 SURE WE HAVE ADDED CLASSES IN MATH AND ENGLISH, BUT WE 14 HAVE NOT BEEN CUTTING SECTIONS. AND NO DEPARTMENT WAS 15 INSTRUCTED TO CUT ANY SECTIONS WHATSOEVER. 16 MS. WELLINGTON: I JUST KNOW THAT THE CLASS THAT 17 I AM IN, I'M IN MY FOURTH SEMESTER. I'M IN THE METAL ARTS 18 PROGRAM ON THE MONDAY/WEDNESDAY NIGHT SESSIONS, THAT CLASS 19 IS REALLY FEELING THE STRAIN OF THE FACT THAT THE 20 TUESDAY/THURSDAY CLASS WAS CUT. AND I KNOW MANY, MANY 21 PEOPLE WERE TURNED AWAY BECAUSE THERE IS JUST NOT ENOUGH 22 ROOM IN THE STUDIO TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY. AND THAT'S 23 FOR SAFETY REASONS. YOU ARE TALKING TORCHES. YOU ARE 24 TALKING EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW THAT SAFETY DOES HAVE TO BE 25 THE NO. 1 PRIORITY. AUGUST 26, 2010 10 1 I FEEL VERY SAFE IN THE STUDIO. I THINK IT'S 2 VERY WELL RUN. IT'S A GREAT, GREAT PROGRAM. I KNOW WHY 3 IT'S LIMITED BECAUSE OF THOSE CONCERNS TO MAKE SURE THAT 4 EVERYONE DOES CONTINUE TO HAVE A PLACE TO WORK THAT'S SAFE 5 AND PRODUCTIVE. 6 AND I WAS JUST TOLD IT WAS CUT PERMANENTLY AND 7 THAT DISTRESSED ME, SO THAT'S WHY I CAME TONIGHT. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WELL, I WILL CHECK ON IT. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT WAS THE CLASS 11 NUMBER? 12 MS. WELLINGTON: 180 A, B, AND C. IT'S THREE 13 COURSES THAT MEET CONCURRENTLY IN THE SAME ROOM. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANTED TO ADD, EVEN IN 15 MATH AND ENGLISH, YOU CAN'T JUST GET A BIGGER ROOM AND ADD 16 MORE STUDENTS. 17 MS. WELLINGTON: AS I SAID -- 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THAT DOES CUT -- 19 MS. WELLINGTON: YEAH, I KNOW. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT DOES CUT INTO THE QUALITY 21 OF EACH STUDENT'S EDUCATION. BUT YOU KNOW I CHAIRED THE 22 BUDGET COMMITTEE, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF TOUGH CHOICES, 23 BUT WE DID ADD OVER 100 SECTIONS. 24 MS. WELLINGTON: AND THAT'S -- 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND WE ARE WORKING OVERTIME TO AUGUST 26, 2010 11 1 NOT LAY OFF TEACHERS, TO ADD CLASSES, AND TO REALLY ORIENT 2 THE PRIORITIES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THE DEMANDS 3 AND NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS. 4 SO YOU KNOW WE ARE, AS A BOARD, YOU KNOW WORKING 5 REALLY, REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS ALL 6 COMPARTMENTS OF THIS INSTITUTION. SO I'M SURE THE 7 CHANCELLOR IS GOING TO DO A VERY DEEP INVESTIGATION, BUT I 8 JUST WANT FOLKS AND THE AUDIENCE AND THE PUBLIC THAT'S 9 WATCHING TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T JUST ADD OR GET A BIGGER 10 ROOM THAT SUITS TO A MATH AND -- 11 MS. WELLINGTON: RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- AND ENGLISH CLASS. IT'S 13 UNFAIR TO THE TEACHER ACTUALLY. 14 MS. WELLINGTON: NO, AND I CAN -- 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S ALSO UNFAIR TO INDIVIDUAL 16 STUDENTS. 17 MS. WELLINGTON: JUST TO CLOSE, I APPRECIATE THE 18 FACT THAT I DID NOT KNOW YOU ADDED THE ADDITIONAL 100 19 CLASSES. THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. IT'S ALSO GREAT TO HEAR 20 THAT YOU ARE ADDING A SUMMER SESSION AGAIN NEXT SUMMER, 21 WHICH IS ALSO VERY GOOD NEWS TO ME. SO I WANTED TO 22 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE 25 ADDED PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE BEGINNING WAS JUST TO HEAR AUGUST 26, 2010 12 1 THINGS LIKE THIS AND TO ENABLE THE BOARD TO BE INFORMED 2 ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, SO THANK YOU. 3 MS. WELLINGTON: WELL, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE 4 INFORMATION TOO, SO THANK YOU. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 6 I HAVE ONE MORE CARD FROM JEFF THOMPSON. 7 MR. THOMPSON: HI, I'M JEFF THOMPSON. I AM THE 8 PRESIDENT OF THE VETERAN'S ALLIANCE AT CITY COLLEGE. AND 9 I JUST WANTED TO COME HERE AND PRESENT TO THE BOARD AN 10 UPDATE ON THE VETERAN'S RESOURCE CENTER THAT HAS JUST BEEN 11 ESTABLISHED BY THE CAMPUS. 12 AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO INFORM YOU THAT THIS 13 PROJECT HAS INSTILLED A NEW FOUND ENTHUSIASM WITHIN OUR 14 COMMUNITY. IT HAS PROVIDED A VENUE, IF YOU WILL, FOR 15 OTHER VETERANS TO GET TOGETHER AND SHARE EXPERIENCES, BUT 16 ALSO, YOU KNOW, AROUND OUR OWN CAUSE. AND I'M JUST HAPPY 17 TO REPORT THAT THINGS ARE GOING VERY WELL AND IF THE BOARD 18 HAS ANY QUESTIONS AS TO THE RESOURCE CENTER, I WOULD BE 19 MORE THAN OBLIGED TO ENTERTAIN YOU. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: I UNDERSTAND THAT CRAIG 21 NEWMARK FROM CRAIG'S LIST -- 22 MR. THOMPSON: YES. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- GOT REALLY INTERESTED IN 24 VETERAN'S CENTER AND HAS BEEN PROMOTING IT AT VARIOUS 25 ONLINE THINGS, TWITTER, FACEBOOK AND SO I KNOW YOU KNOW AUGUST 26, 2010 13 1 THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT PEOPLE ARE 2 AWARE -- 3 MR. THOMPSON: YES. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- THAT HE REALLY WANTS TO 5 HELP. 6 MR. THOMPSON: ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ONE OF THE 7 AMAZING THINGS ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS THE EFFORTS OF 8 THE PRIVATE COMMUNITY IN STEPPING FORWARD AND HELPING US 9 OUT FROM MEMBERS, SUCH AS CRAIG NEWMARK. BUT THERE ARE 10 ALSO MEMBERS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE STEPPING 11 FORWARD. 12 I FEEL LIKE I WOULD BE LEAVING A HUGE PLAYER OUT 13 IF I DIDN'T MENTION MR. WALT NEWMAN AND HIS CONTRIBUTION. 14 NOT JUST HIS OWN PERSONAL TREASURE, BUT THE ABILITY TO 15 RAISE FUNDS FROM OTHER MEANS. AND THAT HAS NOT ONLY JUST 16 HELPED THE RESOURCE CENTER ITSELF, BUT HE HAS BEEN A LARGE 17 INTEGRAL PART IN ESTABLISHING A NEW EMERGENCY LOAN PROGRAM 18 THAT HELPS MANY VETERAN'S LIKE MYSELF WHO DON'T RECEIVE 19 OUR BENEFITS ON TIME. 20 SO, YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY AN INCREDIBLE 21 EXPERIENCE TO WITNESS IT AND TO SEE THE PRIVATE CITIZENS 22 REALLY STEP FORWARD AND IN HELPING US OUT, AND IT'S TRULY 23 TOUCHING. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY -- 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. AUGUST 26, 2010 14 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I JUST WANTED TO MENTION 3 I BELIEVE IT'S WELLS FARGO WHO DONATED SOMETHING LIKE 4 $30,000 FOR THE FUND THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT AS A 5 BRIDGE FUND FOR VETERANS WHO HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED THEIR 6 BENEFITS, SO THERE WILL BE A FUND THAT'S THERE. 7 MR. THOMPSON: THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK 8 AUGUST 31ST IS THE CEREMONY, I BELIEVE, WHERE THEY WILL 9 PRESENT THE CHECK TO DR. GRIFFIN. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE THANK WELLS FARGO 11 FOR THAT. 12 MR. THOMPSON: ABSOLUTELY. IT IS REALLY AN ODD 13 TIME TO THANK A BANK IN THIS DAY AND AGE. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT IS. 15 MR. THOMPSON: BUT WE DO, AND THEY DESERVE 16 RECOGNITION AS WELL. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: ALSO -- 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE WONG. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT OUR 22 FRIEND WALTER NEWMAN IS INVOLVED BECAUSE IF YOU GET WALTER 23 NEWMAN INVOLVED, THEN WE ARE SET UP. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK HE IS AUGUST 26, 2010 15 1 ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. 2 NOW IS THERE ONGOING FUNDING? IS THERE GOING TO 3 BE ONGOING FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM? 4 MR. THOMPSON: ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE 5 VETERAN'S RESOURCE CENTER? 6 TRUSTEE WONG: YES. 7 MR. THOMPSON: YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING 8 OF THE PROGRAM, I CAN'T ARTICULATE EXACTLY HOW THAT IS 9 STRUCTURED IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING OF WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT 10 IS, ESPECIALLY ON THE RESOURCE SIDE WHERE THE CALENDARS 11 AND THINGS ARE, I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW THAT 12 MECHANISM WORKS IF THAT MAKES SENSE. PERHAPS MAYBE THE 13 CHANCELLOR -- 14 TRUSTEE WONG: IS IT GOING PART OF THE BUDGET? 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IN TERMS OF FUNDING, WE ARE 16 LOOKING FOR ANOTHER QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS 17 PROJECT TO HELP US. AND WE HAVE SOME VERY GOOD LEADS ON 18 IT. I THINK WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT 19 HOW THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL STRUCTURE GOT BUILT IN A 20 RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 21 WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE HAD MORE THAN 12 UNIONS 22 ACTUALLY COME IN AND DONATE THEIR TIME AND STRUCTURE OF 23 THIS PROJECT. SO I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN 24 MY STATEMENT IN FLEX DAY, BUT WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE 25 TO YOU BECAUSE THEY BUILT THIS FROM GROUND ZERO ALL THE AUGUST 26, 2010 16 1 WAY AND COMPLETED THIS TASK. AND THEY ALSO MANAGED TO GET 2 DONATED FROM A LOT OF SUPPLIERS THE MATERIALS TO DO THIS 3 AS WELL. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: (INAUDIBLE.) 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING. 6 WE HAD 12 SEPARATE UNIONS THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THIS 7 CONSTRUCTION. SO WE CAN'T EVER MENTION THIS FACILITY 8 WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE UNIONS WHO WERE INVOLVED AND 9 WHAT THEIR GREAT CONTRIBUTION WAS BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY 10 WENT IN THERE TOOK BARE SPACE AND TURNED IT INTO REALLY A 11 REMARKABLE SITUATION. 12 SO AT SOME POINT WE ARE GOING TO GET OUT TO THE 13 BOARD AND TO EVERYONE EXACTLY WHO WAS INVOLVED AND WHAT 14 THEY ARE UP TO. BUT WE ARE RAISING MONEY, AND IT LOOKS 15 LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE 16 COLLEGE. 17 SUNNY CLARK, WHO IS THE DEAN IN CHARGE THERE OF 18 THAT FACILITY, SHE HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE 19 VETERANS. AND OUR FUND-RAISING TEAM HAS ALREADY APPLIED 20 FOR APPROXIMATELY $300,000 OF MONEY WHICH WE HAVE A VERY 21 GOOD PROBABILITY OF GETTING AS WELL AS THE $70,000 MORE 22 NOT COUNTING MATERIAL AND LABOR, THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT 23 FOR THE VETERAN'S CENTER. SO THIS WAS AN APPEAL MADE TO 24 THE COLLEGE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO. 25 THE ENTIRE COLLEGE HAS STEPPED UP, AND EMBRACED AUGUST 26, 2010 17 1 THIS PROGRAM, AND EMBRACED THE VETERANS, AND PROVIDED THEM 2 WITH THE KIND OF COLLEGE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY DESERVE. 3 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND BRINGING 4 THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. 5 MR. THOMPSON: AND THANK YOU, CHANCELLOR, AND 6 THE BOARD FOR SUPPORTING THE VETERANS. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AND ALSO ROBERT VARNEY WAS 8 INVOLVED. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: VERY MUCH SO. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: AND MY FRIEND MARGARET LEE 11 COLLINS (PHONETIC). 12 MR. THOMPSON: YES. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: SO YOU'VE GOT SOME REALLY 14 TOP-NOTCH PEOPLE. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND SINCE WE ARE TALKING 16 ABOUT INDIVIDUALS, GEORGE RUSH -- 17 TRUSTEE WONG: GEORGE RUSH, YES. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- WAS THE GUY WHO TOOK ON 19 THIS PROJECT AND DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB IN TERMS OF GETTING 20 EVERYBODY ORGANIZED AND ON POINT IN TERMS OF DELIVERING 21 THIS. SO I THINK WITHOUT GEORGE RUSH, WE WOULD BE WAY 22 BEHIND IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT. 23 MR. THOMPSON: ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU STOLE MY 24 THUNDER IN THAT. I WAS NOT GOING TO LEAVE WITHOUT 25 MENTIONING HIS NAME. YES, HE HAS BEEN VERY, VERY GREAT. AUGUST 26, 2010 18 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE 2 TOO. 3 MR. THOMPSON: OH, THANK YOU. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: THANK YOU. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS 6 THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. 7 COUNCIL BATTISTE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES 8 SINCE IT WAS PUBLISHED? 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. 10 THERE ARE TWO REVISED RESOLUTIONS. ALTHOUGH IT 11 SAYS, "THERE ARE NONE AT THIS TIME." 12 THE FIRST IS B1, WHICH IS THE AWARD OF THE BID 13 ON THE SOCCER FIELD. THAT HAS NOW BEEN AWARDED TO 14 INTERSTATE GRADING AND PAVING FROM $3,463,000 I BELIEVE 15 THERE IS A HANDOUT. 16 ALSO ON RESOLUTION B3, ITEM NO. J, I BELIEVE 17 THIS REFERS TO A GRANT FOR SAN FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY 18 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. 19 AS TO ADDED RESOLUTIONS, B4 HAS BEEN ADDED. 20 IT'S THE "AUTHORIZATION TO CONDUCT A WINTER BREAK 21 2010-2011 FOR STUDY ABROAD PROGRAM TO CAMBODIA AND VIETNAM 22 AND TO CONTRACT WITH ACADEMIC EXPERIENCES ABROAD FOR 23 TRAVEL AND LINGUISTICAL PROGRAM ARRANGEMENTS." 24 AND ALSO S3, "THE APPOINTMENT OF SHEILA BAPAT TO 25 THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT CITIZENS' AUGUST 26, 2010 19 1 BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO COMPLETE THE TERM OF DEPARTING 2 APPOINTEE, HILLARY SLEDGE, WHICH ENDS NO LATER THAN 3 MARCH 26TH, 2011." 4 THERE ARE NO SUBSTITUTED RESOLUTIONS. AND, OF 5 COURSE, NO WITHDRAWN RESOLUTIONS AT THIS TIME. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION. 7 THE NAME OF THE FIRM ON B1 PLUS THE AMOUNT, WHEN 8 WAS THAT ADDED. 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THAT WAS ADDED TODAY. THE 10 PROTEST PERIOD ENDED ON TUESDAY MORNING. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: I HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH 12 THAT, OUR BEING GIVEN AND THE PUBLIC'S BEING GIVEN THE 13 INFORMATION REALLY AT THE LAST MINUTE. BUT WHY DON'T WE 14 JUST GO ALONG AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE REST OF THE 15 BOARD. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: COUNCIL, AS LONG AS YOU AND I 18 ARE SPEAKING HERE, CAN YOU TELL US IF THERE ARE ANY 19 REPORTS FROM CLOSED SESSION? 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OH, YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE 21 WERE NO REPORTS FROM CLOSED SESSION. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT MARKS, IN THE COMMENT 24 YOU JUST MADE WITH THESE LAST MINUTE RESOLUTIONS -- 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT WASN'T A LAST MINUTE AUGUST 26, 2010 20 1 RESOLUTION FOR B1. IT WAS AGENIZED. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: SO, PRESIDENT MARKS, WHAT ARE YOU 3 TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THIS LAST MINUTE -- YOU MEAN 4 ADDING THE NAME? 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: YEAH. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: WHEN YOU ADD THE NAME TO A 7 RESOLUTION, TO ME THAT'S A MATERIAL -- IN MY MIND, THAT'S 8 A MATERIAL CHANGE TO A RESOLUTION. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: DOES SOMEBODY HAVE -- 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WHICH WE DO ALL THE TIME. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: WHICH WE DO ALL THE TIME, I KNOW. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT -- 13 TRUSTEE WONG: I THINK THAT WE SHOULD -- I DON'T 14 KNOW IT DOESN'T SIT RIGHT. IT SEEMED LIKE WHEN WE PASSED 15 OUR POLICY ABOUT MEETINGS, THAT WE HAD SOME POINT ABOUT 16 THE BLANKS IN THE RESOLUTIONS. AND I'M WONDERING IF 17 THERE'S ANYWAY THAT WE COULD -- 18 ACTUALLY, TRUSTEE RIZZO, YOU CAN PULL IT UP AND 19 MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE 20 REST OF THIS AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO 21 DO. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: OR EVEN TO E-MAIL IT TO US -- 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: -- IN ADVANCE BECAUSE WE ARE 25 SEEING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THIS TABLE. AUGUST 26, 2010 21 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. WELL, THE REASON WHY 2 IS THAT THE PROTEST PERIOD ENDED ON TUESDAY MORNING AT 3 10:00 A.M. IT'S JUST THE WAY IT FELL BECAUSE OF WHEN THE 4 BIDS WERE OPENED. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: SO THAT'S NOT A VIOLATION OF THE 6 BROWN ACT -- 7 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THIS MATERIAL CHANGE? 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I DON'T THINK IT'S 10 MATERIAL -- WE'VE ALREADY AGENDIZED. THE BROWN ACT 11 REQUIRES THAT WE GIVE THE PUBLIC ENOUGH NOTICE IN THE 12 AGENDA SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW WHETHER THEY WANT TO COME 13 TO THE MEETING OR NOT. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: WERE THE FOUR BIDDERS LISTED IN 16 THE AGENDA THAT WENT OUT PROPERLY NOTICED? 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WOULD -- 18 TRUSTEE NGO: IN OTHER WORDS, WAS WHATEVER YOU 19 HAD BLANK THAT WENT OUT, DID THAT DOCUMENT INCLUDE THE 20 FOUR BIDDERS HERE? 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THE AGENDA WENT OUT LAST 22 FRIDAY. I DON'T THINK THE BIDS WERE OPEN UNTIL -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO -- 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WHEN WERE THE BIDS OPEN 25 THURSDAY? AUGUST 26, 2010 22 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THURSDAY AFTERNOON? 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF ANY 5 POSSIBLE AWARDEE -- 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO, BECAUSE -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: -- OR WHO COULD IT BE. 8 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO, BECAUSE -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT THAT'S OKAY IF IT'S NOT. I AM 10 JUST SAYING IT'S NOT. 11 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SAYING EVEN IF IT'S 13 IMPRACTICAL FOR IT NOT TO BE, THEY ARE NOT LISTED IN THE 14 AGENDA IN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT 15 THAT'S IT. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. THEY WERE NOT LISTED 17 IN THE AGENDA. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: BECAUSE WE COULD PUT ANYBODY IN 19 THIS. ANYONE COULD HAVE SHOWED UP ON THIS BASICALLY 20 TONIGHT, RIGHT? 21 OKAY. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: DID SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE ANY 23 COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? 24 IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING 25 TO ALLOW THIS TO BE PART OF THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA OR NOT. AUGUST 26, 2010 23 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AND (INAUDIBLE) FOR US TO MOVE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE CAN. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WE CAN STILL MOVE IT. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHY DON'T WE INCLUDE THIS AND 5 THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WHEN WE GET TO THE 6 RESOLUTION ITSELF. 7 IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: I JUST NEED A MOTION TO 10 APPROVE OR ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA AS AMENDED. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 15 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? 16 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THE 17 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA AS AMENDED, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: (ABSENT.) 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. AUGUST 26, 2010 24 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 2 NOBODY IS OPPOSED. 3 WHAT I WANT TO DO IS DO THE APPROVAL OF THE 4 CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN GET TO THE BADMINTON TEAM. 5 THE CONSENT ITEMS ARE MARKED ON OUR AGENDA WITH 6 AN ASTERISK AND A "C." WE VOTE ON THEM IN GROUPS WITHOUT 7 ANY DISCUSSION. HOWEVER, IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD OR 8 ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WANTS TO REMOVE SOMETHING FROM THE 9 CONSENT CALENDAR, EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THAT AND 10 THEN WE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: DID WE APPROVE OUR MINUTES 12 ALREADY? 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DIDN'T. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: WE HAVE NOT. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO LET'S GO BACK TO THAT THEN. 17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 18 SO WE HAVE MINUTES FROM JULY 29TH AND 19 AUGUST 12TH. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: I MOVE THE ADOPTION OF THE 21 MINUTES. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: FOR BOTH? 23 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG AND AUGUST 26, 2010 25 1 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 2 ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS, CHANGES TO 3 THE MINUTES FOR BOTH THOSE TWO MEETINGS? 4 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL OF 5 THE MINUTES, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 6 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: (ABSENT.) 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 15 THANKS, TRUSTEE JACKSON. I HAVE APPRECIATE 16 THAT. 17 SO BACK TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE HAVE B3 AND 18 B4. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO PULL EITHER OF THOSE? 19 IF NOT, IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR THOSE TWO. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I HAVE ONE QUESTION ON B4, 24 SORRY. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. WE'LL PULL IT. AUGUST 26, 2010 26 1 TRUSTEE BERG: I THOUGHT -- WASN'T B3 PULLED? 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: NOW WHEN I WAS SAYING THAT I 3 WAS THINKING MAYBE IT WAS PULLED, SO IT'S JUST B4. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: B4 WAS ADDED AND B3 WAS PULLED. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: B4 IS NOT A CONSENT ITEM, IS IT? 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, IT IS. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: B3 IS PULLED, ISN'T IT? 8 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: B3 WAS REMOVED. 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO. NO. PART OF B3. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: JUST PART. 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: ONE PART. ONLY ONE PART. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: ITEM J OF B3. 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEAH, ITEM J. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: OH, OKAY. OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: SO YOU REALLY NEED TO AMEND B3. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: DO WE NEED TO -- 18 TRUSTEE BERG: PART OF IT HAS BEEN REMOVED. YOU 19 WILL HAVE TO A AMEND IT. 20 SO WHICH PART HAS BEEN REMOVED? 21 TRUSTEE WONG: J. 22 COUNSEL BATTISTE: JUST ITEM J. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO YOU WANT ITEM J REMOVED? 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. AUGUST 26, 2010 27 1 TRUSTEE BERG: SO I WILL MOVE B3 AS -- I WILL 2 MOVE TO AMEND B3, BY DELETING J. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG AND 5 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOU HAD A QUESTION ON ONE OF 7 THESE TOO. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: ON B4. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHY DON'T WE JUST PULL THAT 10 OFF? 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SURE. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO WE WILL GET BACK TO B4. 13 SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON B3 -- 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. NO. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, YOU ARE VOTING ON THE 19 AMENDMENT. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M SORRY. YOUR VOTE ON THE 21 AMENDMENT TO REMOVE ITEM J. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE 24 AMENDMENT, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 25 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. AUGUST 26, 2010 28 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 8 SO THE RESOLUTION IS AMENDED FOR REMOVING ITEM 9 J. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: SO NOW I WILL MOVE B3, AS 11 AMENDED. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 15 ANY COMMENTS? 16 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, B3 AS AMENDED. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B3, 19 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. AUGUST 26, 2010 29 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 3 B3 PASSES. 4 I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TRUSTEE GRIER 5 IS HERE. 6 THE NEXT ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE C1, 7 C2, AND C3. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 12 DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL ANY OF THOSE? 13 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR C1, C2, AND C3, PLEASE SAY 14 "AYE." 15 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 23 THOSE ARE APPROVED. 24 WE HAVE G1-5, H1 AND 2, AND N1. 25 DOES ANYONE WANT TO REMOVE ANY OF THOSE? AUGUST 26, 2010 30 1 IF NOT, COULD I GET A MOTION FOR THOSE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF G1-5, H1 9 AND 2, AND N1, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 10 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 18 THAT'S THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 19 SO IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR S1. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 24 TRUSTEE BERG, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING 25 ABOUT THIS? AUGUST 26, 2010 31 1 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. NO. NO. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: S1. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: F1? 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: S. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: S1, YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR 6 TAKING IT OUT OF ORDER. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD LET YOU GUYS 7 GO HOME. YOU'VE EARNED IT. 8 YES, DO I WANT YOU TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I 9 WANT YOU ALL TO STAND UP, PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE. 10 STAND. STAND. 11 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. THIS IS OUR 12 WOMEN'S BADMINTON TEAM WHO ARE CURRENTLY THE CHAMPIONS OF 13 THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND WE ARE VERY PROUD. 14 AND, CONI, WOULD YOU STAND UP. 15 SHE IS THE COACH. PLEASE STAND UP BECAUSE YOU 16 ARE IN LARGE MEASURE SUPER. THANK YOU. 17 THANK YOU. YOUR GUYS ARE AMAZING. YOU ARE ALL 18 AMAZING. YOUR COACHES ARE WONDERFUL BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY 19 HARD WORK. AND FOR YOU YOUNG WOMEN, CONGRATULATIONS. 20 THIS IS AN HONOR YOU WILL CARRY WITH YOU ALL YOUR LIVES. 21 AND THIS IS AN HONOR THAT WE WILL CARRY WITH US AS AN 22 INSTITUTION ALL OF OUR LIVES. IT'S JUST WONDERFUL. 23 I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW PROUD I AM OF YOU AND JUST 24 HOW GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE 25 GOOD SMILING FACES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AUGUST 26, 2010 32 1 IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL. CONGRATULATIONS. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: THERE'S ONE GUY ON THE TEAM TOO. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: AND WE HAVE A MALE ON THE TEAM? 4 MS. STAFF: NO. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU ARE JUST SITTING WITH THEM. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, OKAY. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T WANT TO BE 8 SEXEST. I WANTED TO BE SURE TO BE INCLUSIVE. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE GRIER. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND 11 CONGRATULATIONS. 12 AND TO DANNY, WHO SHOULD STAND UP TOO, BECAUSE 13 YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT. YOUR TIME IS GOING 14 TO COME PRETTY SOON IN THE FALL. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15 GOOD LOOK AT YOU. 16 MR. HAYES: (INAUDIBLE.) 17 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU FOR DEVELOPING SUCH A 18 WONDERFUL TEAM WHICH IS REALLY WONDERFUL. IT WAS REALLY 19 WELL DONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S PERFECT. YOU FEEL, 20 I'M SURE, AS PROUD AS I DO, IF NOT PROUDER BECAUSE YOU 21 WORKED HARDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 22 I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE. DID WE VOTE ON S3? 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING FIRST? 24 TRUSTEE BERG: OH, I'M SORRY. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING AUGUST 26, 2010 33 1 AFTER THAT ALSO. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MARKS. 3 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU. I AM SO 4 PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I WANT YOU TO KNOW 5 WHAT AN INSPIRATION YOU ARE TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS, 6 MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, BUT THEN 7 ALSO TO THE CITY COLLEGE FAMILY. 8 WE ARE SO PROUD WHEN WE ARE ALWAYS FIRST OF 9 SOMETHING. AND THIS IS THE FIRST WINNING TEAM IN 10 BADMINTON, WOMEN'S TEAM. WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU. JUST 11 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WHEN 13 I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I ACTUALLY PLAYED A LOT OF BADMINTON 14 AND WE HAD A TEAM. AND I WASN'T NO. 1, BUT I WAS NO. 2 ON 15 THE TEAM, SO IT'S A GREAT GAME AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR 16 YOUR VICTORY. 17 MR. HAYES: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I 18 APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THIS REALLY SPECIAL 19 EVENT. IT'S HISTORIC, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL 20 SO VERY PROUD OF. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT 21 OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR TEAMS GET FROM ALL OF YOU. WE 22 CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANKS, DAN. 24 MS. STAFF: WOULD YOU MIND -- WE HAD A LITTLE 25 PRESENTATION TO GIVE TO YOU. WOULD YOU MIND IF I AUGUST 26, 2010 34 1 CONTINUE? 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: PLEASE GO AHEAD. 3 MS. STAFF: FRED AND I CO-COACHED THE TEAM SO WE 4 ARE CO-HEAD COACHES -- 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: CONI, I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE 6 FIRST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOUR PRESENTATION TO INFLUENCE 7 THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTING IN ANY WAY. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON S1. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE N FAVOR OF S1, 11 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 20 S1, PASSES. 21 NOW YOU CAN COME UP. 22 MS. STAFF: I WANTED TO ADD TO THE ACCOLADES 23 THAT THIS IS AN HISTORICAL OCCASION. THIS IS THE FIRST 24 EVER WOMEN'S ATHLETICS STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IN THE HISTORY 25 OF CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. SO IT'S NOT ONLY THEIR AUGUST 26, 2010 35 1 FIRST, BUT FIRST EVER FOR WOMEN'S ATHLETICS. WE HAVE 2 GROWN 40 PERCENT SINCE 2005 IN NUMBERS. WE'VE ADDED 3 WOMEN'S SOCCER, WOMEN'S SWIMMING. AND THEY CONTINUE TO 4 DISPLAY GREAT PRIDE AND REPRESENT OUR COLLEGE IN MANY 5 ASPECTS, SO KUDOS TO ALL THE COACHES. 6 TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT 7 AND ENCOURAGING THE GROWTH. AND I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR 8 ENTIRE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S ATHLETIC PROGRAM AT CITY COLLEGE. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO ARE WE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 11 MR. GLOSSER: LAST YEAR WAS A REALLY GREAT YEAR 12 FOR ME. IT WAS MY 50TH YEAR OF TEACHING. MY 50TH WEDDING 13 ANNIVERSARY. AND IT WAS AN EXCITING SUPER CHAMPIONSHIP 14 FORMAT DOWN IN PASADENA. 15 JUST A REAL BRIEF HISTORY OF BADMINTON AT CITY 16 COLLEGE. I STARTED THE FIRST FRIDAY NIGHT CLASS AT CITY 17 COLLEGE 25 YEARS AGO. AND IT WAS A BADMINTON CLASS. WE 18 WENT SIX O'CLOCK TO TEN O'CLOCK. DURING THAT TIME, I'VE 19 HAD 19 MARRIAGES COME OUT OF THAT CLASS. WE HAVE STAYED 20 AS LATE AS 4:30 IN THE MORNING. SO THIS IS A REAL CULT 21 THAT WE HAVE GOING AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 22 THE STUDENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THE 23 BADMINTON PROGRAM ARE A VERY UNIQUE GROUP OF PEOPLE. THEY 24 ARE DEDICATED. THEY ARE HARD WORKING. THEY ARE LOYAL. 25 AND MOST OF THEM ARE A 4.0 STUDENTS. WE NEVER HAVE TO AUGUST 26, 2010 36 1 WORRY ABOUT ELIGIBILITY SITUATIONS WITH OUR GIRLS. AND SO 2 IT'S BEEN A REALLY, REALLY FUN EXPERIENCE FOR ME. 3 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CONI AND I 4 PLAY BADMINTON, BUT WE NEEDED SOME HELP. AND WE HAD TWO 5 REALLY OUTSTANDING STUDENT ASSISTANTS THAT WERE OUR 6 CO-COACHES, EDDIE PON AND ALBERT ZHU. 7 AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO COACH FOR 50 YEARS, I 8 HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I HAD TO HAVE A GREAT PARTNER, MY 9 WIFE, JUDY GLOSSER. 10 YOU DON'T GET TO GO OUT ON FRIDAY NIGHTS FOR 25 11 YEARS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PARTNER THAT IS WILLING TO LET 12 YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO I HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER. 13 THAT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH WAS UNBELIEVABLE. I'VE 14 COACHED FOR 50 YEARS. I'VE COACHED BASEBALL, GIRLS 15 BASKETBALL, WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL. AND THAT CHAMPIONSHIP 16 MARCH AGAINST PASADENA WAS BY FAR THE MOST EXCITING 17 CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH OR ANY KIND OF A TEAM SPORT MATCH THAT 18 COULD POSSIBLY HAVE HAPPENED. 19 THE PEOPLE THAT WERE DOWN THERE, THE 20 COMMISSIONER OF THE SPORT SAID IN THE TEN YEARS THAT 21 THEY'VE HAD THE PROGRAM, THIS WAS BY FAR THE BEST MATCH 22 THAT THEY'VE HAD IN TEN YEARS. SO IT WAS REALLY AN HONOR 23 FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. 24 AND WE'RE ALSO THE FIRST NORTHERN CALIFORNIA 25 BADMINTON TEAM TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. SOUTHERN AUGUST 26, 2010 37 1 CALIFORNIA HAS DOMINATED THE SPORT AND SO WE ARE THE FIRST 2 ONES TO BRING IT BACK TO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. 3 THIS YEAR WE HOST IT AT SAN FRANCISCO CITY 4 COLLEGE IN THE SECOND WEEKEND OF MAY, SO WE WILL GET A 5 NOTICE OUT AND SOME OF YOU CAN COME OUT AND SEE WHAT REAL 6 BADMINTON IS LIKE. 7 I WOULD LIKE TO LET CONI STAFF COME UP AND SAY A 8 FEW WORDS. 9 MS. STAFF: I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU. 10 FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OUR BUILDING. 11 BADMINTON IS AN INSIDE SPORT. AND WITHOUT THAT BUILDING, 12 IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DO ANY OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN 13 ABLE TO DO NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 14 I HAVE TO SINGLE YOU OUT BECAUSE NATALIE BERG 15 THAT BUILDING WOULDN'T BE THERE WITHOUT YOU AND ALL OF 16 YOU. AND ALL OF YOU, BUT YOU REALLY WORKED SO CLOSELY 17 WITH US. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THAT. 18 IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO COACH WITH YOU FOR THREE 19 YEARS, FRED. I GOT TO KNOW HIM AS SOON AS I GOT TO CITY 20 COLLEGE. AND I LOVE THIS MAN. HE IS A WONDERFUL MAN. 21 AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. 22 PEG, YOU ALWAYS HAVE OUR BACK SIDES. I CAN'T 23 TELL YOU WHAT THAT MEANS. 24 AND DAN, THE SAME FOR YOU. YOU ARE A FANTASTIC 25 LEADER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AUGUST 26, 2010 38 1 AND TO THE TEAM, YOU WORKED HARD. YOU PLAYED 2 HARD. YOU PRACTICED HARD. YOU STUDIED HARD. YOU WENT 3 DOWN THERE. WE WERE BEHIND. YOU CAME BACK. 4 MAGGIE CHOY, TO WIN THAT LAST MATCH FROM BEHIND 5 TO GIVE US THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 6 SO I WANT TO THANK THE ATHLETES FOR THIS PAST 7 SEASON BECAUSE I'VE PUSHED A LONG TIME TOO. NATALIE 8 KNOWS. AND THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MY NO. 1 SPORT, 9 THIS WAS THE BEST EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD WITH THE TEAM RIGHT 10 HERE. 11 JUST A COUPLE MORE THINGS. I WANT TO ALSO THANK 12 YOU FOR ALL THAT THE BOARD HAS DONE IN FORESIGHT BOTH 13 INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A GROUP TO FULLY STAND BEHIND TITLE 9 14 BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT, WOMEN WOULDN'T HAVE SOME OF THE 15 OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE MEN HAVE HAD ALL ALONG. SO I 16 REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT. 17 WE ARE HOSTING THE STATE TOURNAMENT. IT'S THE 18 FIRST ONE WE HOST IN THE NEW BUILDING. THIS IS AN 19 OFFICIAL INVITATION TO EACH ONE OF YOU TO COME BY. IT IS 20 GOING TO BE MAY 12TH-14TH OF 2011. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: NEXT YEAR. 22 MS. STAFF: WE HOPE TO BE FIGHTING FOR THE STATE 23 CHAMPIONSHIP AGAIN, RIGHT? 24 OKAY, WENDY, MAGGIE, AND RUFINA, COME ON UP. 25 WE ARE ALMOST DONE. AUGUST 26, 2010 39 1 MS. ZHU: GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS 2 WENDY ZHU. AND ON BEHALF OF THE WOMEN'S BADMINTON TEAM, 3 IT IS A GREAT HONOR TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE BOARD TONIGHT. 4 WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR COACHES. OUR VERY SUPPORTIVE 5 AND DEDICATED COACHERS, CONI STAFF, AND FRED GLOSSER AND 6 ALSO OUR ASSISTANT COACHES ALBERT AND EDDY. 7 WITHOUT THEM, WE WOULD NOT HAVE SUCH A GREAT 8 SEASON AND A CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON TOO. IT'S A GREAT 9 PLEASURE TO BE PART OF THE WOMEN'S BADMINTON TEAM AT SAN 10 FRANCISCO CITY COLLEGE. AND IT WAS A PLEASURE FOR US TO 11 WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TOO, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 14 MS. WU: I'M RUFINA. I'M ACTUALLY WENDY'S 15 PARTNER. I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK 16 YOU. IT'S A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. 17 BUT I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW IT DOESN'T MATTER 18 HOW GOOD WE ARE WITHOUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE AT THE BACK 19 DOING THE WORK. WITHOUT THE GREAT FACILITY, WE WOULDN'T 20 BE ABLE TO GET TO THIS POINT. SO IT'S NOT A CHAMPIONSHIP 21 AND A VICTORY FOR US INDIVIDUALLY, IT'S A VICTORY FOR 22 EVERYBODY AT CITY COLLEGE. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 24 MS. CHOY: HI, MY NAME IS MAGGIE CHOY. I'M PART 25 OF THE TEAM. THEY'VE ALREADY SAID WHAT I WANT TO SAY. AUGUST 26, 2010 40 1 THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR SHARING ALL OF YOUR 2 SUPPORT TO THE WOMEN'S BADMINTON TEAMS. THANK YOU VERY 3 MUCH. 4 MS. STAFF: WE HAVE A GIFT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO 5 GIVE EACH ONE OF YOU. WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: IT REALLY SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY 7 AROUND. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: PRESIDENT MARKS. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO JOIN EVERYONE IN 11 COMMENDING OBVIOUSLY NOT JUST THE COACHES AND THE SUPPORT 12 AND THE ASSISTANT COACHES, ALSO THE PLAYERS FOR NOT JUST 13 BEING SUPERB ATHLETES, BUT ALSO BEING SUPERB STUDENT 14 ATHLETES. THAT'S A TRADITION THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD HERE 15 AT CITY COLLEGE. 16 I WANT TO ALSO EARN THIS THING YOU GAVE ME. SO 17 WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF 18 A MATCH BETWEEN THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND 19 YOU. AND THE LOSERS, WHICH I SUSPECT WILL BE US -- 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. NO. NO. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WILL GET TO BUY YOU SOME PIZZA 22 OR DINNER. OKAY? TO CELEBRATE. 23 MS. STAFF: IF YOU ARE SERIOUS WE WILL TAKE YOU 24 UP ON THAT. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: WE ARE SERIOUS. I MOVE TO AMEND AUGUST 26, 2010 41 1 THE MOTION. 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOTION TO RECONSIDER. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY 4 MUCH. YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY OBVIOUSLY. 5 BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS, I'M 6 WONDERING IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE FOR SPECIFIC 7 RESOLUTIONS THAT WE MIGHT BRING FORWARD AS WELL SO WE 8 DON'T KEEP YOU ANY LONGER THAN YOU WANT TO BE HERE. 9 MR. KNEE: IS P1 PART OF THE RESOLUTION? 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES, IT IS. 11 MR. KNEE: LET'S DO THAT. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION 13 FIRST FOR B2. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE B2. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 17 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 18 I DON'T KNOW, CHANCELLOR, IF YOU WANTED TO SAY 19 ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A RESOLUTION ABOUT JEFF 20 SLOAN. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A 22 FEW WORDS. 23 AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT TIME 24 FOR THE COLLEGE. AND WE ARE STRUGGLING TO CONSERVE 25 RESOURCES AND EXPEND AS LITTLE MONEY AS POSSIBLE. AND I AUGUST 26, 2010 42 1 MADE THIS MESSAGE VERY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY AT THE COLLEGE. 2 AND AS WE GO FORWARD THIS YEAR, THE EMPHASIS IS STILL ON 3 SAVING AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE. 4 NOW ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE IN TERMS OF WORKING 5 WITH THIS FIRM, JEFF'S FIRM, IS THAT HE GETS THE MESSAGE. 6 AND WE TALK ABOUT SAVINGS, HE'S GONE THE EXTRA MILE IN 7 TERMS OF HELPING US AS FAR AS SAVING AS MUCH MONEY AS 8 POSSIBLE. 9 BUT MORE THAN THAT, HIS JUDGEMENT AND WISDOM HAS 10 BEEN VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AT THE COLLEGE. AND IT'S 11 AUGMENTED OUR LEGAL TEAM A GREAT DEAL. AND WITH THE LOSS 12 OF OUR LEGAL COUNSEL RON LEE, HE STEPPED UP BIG TIME, NOT 13 JUST HIM, BUT HIS ENTIRE FIRM IN TERMS OF HELPING US GET 14 THROUGH SOME VERY DIFFICULT AND INTERESTING LITIGATION. 15 SO I WOULD STRONGLY ENDORSE THIS PARTICULAR 16 RESOLUTION AND HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE A VERY FRUITFUL 17 RELATIONSHIP. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 19 ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT B2? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I ALSO WANT TO ADD TO THE 23 CHANCELLOR'S WORDS AND REALLY COMMEND THE WORK THAT YOUR 24 FIRM HAS DONE, JEFF. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS QUITE A 25 DEAL FOR US. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT ANYMORE AFTER THAT, AUGUST 26, 2010 43 1 BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COUNSEL. IT'S BEEN VERY 2 INVALUABLE. AND WE KNOW THE EXPERTISE THE ENTIRE FIRM HAS 3 BROUGHT TO US HAS SERVED A GREAT PURPOSE TO THE DISTRICT. 4 AND I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE THE ROLE THAT 5 COUNSEL CAN PLAY, NOT AS AN EIGHTH BOARD MEMBER, BUT AS A 6 LEGAL COUNSEL. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT TOO. THANK 7 YOU. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER 9 DISCUSSION, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON B2. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B2, 12 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 13 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 20 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 22 SO THAT VOTE WAS MISSING TRUSTEE BERG AND 23 TRUSTEE WONG. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THAT'S 24 RECORDED. 25 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR P1. AUGUST 26, 2010 44 1 MR. KNEE: THANK YOU. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO AND 4 SECONDED BY -- 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: I DIDN'T HEAR -- 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: P1. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: DID SOMEONE MOVE IT? 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: THEN I SAY, SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE 11 NGO AND TRUSTEE GRIER. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO, YOU HAD 14 MENTIONED TO ME THE DESIRE TO PUT THIS BACK INTO A 15 COMMITTEE. AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME ISSUES RAISED BY 16 THE ACADEMIC SENATE IN TERMS OF -- OH, NO. NO. THAT WAS 17 P2, I THINK. 18 MR. KNEE: BOTH. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: BOTH, OKAY. 20 SO PERHAPS WE CAN HEAR FROM MR. KNEE AND FROM 21 THE ACADEMIC SENATE AND THEN WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S 22 SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO REFLECTING SOME OF THE CONCERNS 23 HERE. 24 MR. KNEE. 25 MR. KNEE: THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING TO ALL OF AUGUST 26, 2010 45 1 YOU. 2 FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO REPEAT WHAT THE TASK 3 FORCE SAID IN ITS LETTER. AND THAT IS THANK YOU AND 4 CONGRATULATIONS. 5 WHAT YOU HAVE HERE ON THE WHOLE IS AN EXCELLENT 6 DOCUMENT. WE APPLAUD THE SUBSTANCE, AND WE ALSO APPLAUD 7 THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND HEART AND SOUL THAT WENT 8 INTO THIS. MOVING SUNSHINE FORWARD WE THINK IS ALWAYS A 9 GOOD THING, AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR IT. 10 THERE ARE A FEW CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IN THE 11 DOCUMENT ITSELF. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO REFER TO SECTION 12 B-1. AT THE VERY BOTTOM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MINOR FIXES 13 THAT I THINK NEED TO BE MADE WHERE IT SAYS, "A VIDEO 14 RECORDING OF THE TRAINING IS AVAILABLE VIA THE DISTRICT'S 15 WEBSITE." I WOULD INSERT A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE. 16 BETWEEN "THE TRAINING," I WOULD INSERT THE 17 WORDS, "MOST RECENT." AND THEN CROSS OUT THE WORD "IS" 18 BEFORE "AVAILABLE" AND SUBSTITUTE THAT WITH "SHALL BE 19 AVAILABLE." 20 IN SECTION C-6, "D" FOR DELTA, FIRST OF ALL 21 AGAIN, WE HAVE TO QUESTION WHETHER THE TASK FORCE IS 22 REALLY ABLE AND PERMITTED TO DEAL WITH ANY COMPLAINTS THAT 23 COME BEFORE THE DISTRICT RELATED TO SUNSHINE. THIS IS 24 SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY WILL REQUIRE A BIT MORE LEGAL 25 RESEARCH. AUGUST 26, 2010 46 1 AND AGAIN, I MUST CAUTION THAT THE TASK FORCE AT 2 TIMES, EVEN WITHOUT WORK FROM THE DISTRICT, IS -- WE HAVE 3 MORE THAN A FULL PLATE AND OUR OWN ADMINISTER HAS SAID 4 THAT RECEIVING ITEMS FROM THE DISTRICT COULD BE EXTREMELY 5 BURDENSOME. SO I THINK THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. 6 ONE THING YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT DOING IS 7 ESTABLISHING YOUR OWN KIND OF SUNSHINE PANEL. ANOTHER 8 THING YOU MIGHT DO IS CONTACT THE SAN FRANCISCO ETHICS 9 COMMISSION. THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO TAKE ON ANY 10 MEDIATION ROLE THAT YOU HAVE HERE. AND THAT IS IN CASE 11 ANY KIND OF MEDIATION ROLE FOR THE TASK FORCE FALLS 12 THROUGH. 13 I THINK THE TASK FORCE LIKES THE IDEA OF HELPING 14 THE DISTRICT MEDIATE ANY SUNSHINE COMPLAINTS. NONE OF US 15 OBJECTS TO THAT. BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE LEGAL QUESTIONS AND 16 CERTAINLY THE QUESTION OF OUR WORKLOAD. 17 ALSO IN SECTION C, 6-D, WHERE YOU HAVE IF THE 18 CHANCELLOR OR DESIGNEE DENIES THE APPEAL, THE PERSON 19 MAKING THE REQUEST MAY APPEAL TO THE SUNSHINE ORDINANCE 20 TASK FORCE IN WRITING. 21 IS THAT STRICTLY IN PRINT OR IS E-MAIL 22 ACCEPTABLE? THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE CLARIFIED. 23 ALSO THAT 14-DAY LIMIT THAT YOU SET HERE, AGAIN, 24 YOU ARE IMPOSING A LITTLE BIT OF A LIMIT ON THE TASK FORCE 25 THERE THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BEYOND YOUR PURVIEW. AUGUST 26, 2010 47 1 LET'S SAY THE 14 DAYS EXPIRES AND SOMEBODY COMES 2 TO US, YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD THE TASK FORCE NOW, WELL, WE 3 ARE NO LONGER EMPOWERED TO HANDLE IT. 4 IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO? AND IS THAT 5 14 DAYS REALLY ADEQUATE? 6 IF SOMEBODY HAS A COMPLAINT, OR HAS AN 7 EMERGENCY, OR GOES ON VACATION, OR HAS PROFESSIONAL 8 RESPONSIBILITIES THAT KEEP HIM OCCUPIED MORE THAN 14 DAYS, 9 SO THAT AGAIN MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO THINK 10 ABOUT. 11 C-8, THERE'S SOME PUNCTUATION NEEDED THERE WHERE 12 YOU SAY, "AN APPEAL TO THE SUPERVISOR OF RECORDS, THE 13 CHANCELLOR OR DESIGNEE." I THINK YOU NEED SOME COMMAS OR 14 PARENTHESIS THERE. 15 SECTION P, YOU'VE CROSSED OUT A PROPOSAL TO 16 REQUIRE PREPARATION OF AN INDEX OF RECORDS. AND I'M JUST 17 CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY YOU ARE DOING THAT. 18 IS THIS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN MOVED FROM 19 ANOTHER SECTION PERHAPS OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU DECIDED 20 THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO? 21 I WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THAT 22 POSITION. INDEXES OF RECORDS ARE A VERY, VERY GOOD IDEA. 23 LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, AGAIN JUST A SLIGHT WORDING 24 CHANGE IN SECTION U, "CALENDAR OF THE CHANCELLOR." 25 THE SECOND LINE -- CROSS OUT -- YOU SAY, "THE AUGUST 26, 2010 48 1 CHANCELLOR AND ALL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS SHALL KEEP OR 2 CAUSE TO BE KEPT A DAILY CALENDAR WHEREIN IS RECORDED THE 3 TIME AND PLACE OF EACH MEETING OR EVENT THAT IS 4 ATTENDED" -- I WOULD SAY, "THAT THEY ATTEND." I THINK 5 THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER WORDING THERE. 6 THAT'S IT FROM WHERE I STAND. AGAIN, A BIG 7 THANKS AND HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'VE DONE TERRIFIC 8 WORK HERE. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU, MR. KNEE. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: KAREN, ARE YOU COMING UP? 12 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 13 PRESIDENT. 14 SO ONE OF THE ISSUES OF THIS ONE IS THAT IT'S 15 MARKED AS HAVING "GOTTEN SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW," BUT 16 THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT THE DOCUMENT THAT HAD "GOTTEN SUMMARY 17 SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW." THIS IS NOT ALL THE DOCUMENT 18 THAT WE WERE EXPECTING TO SEE, SO WE ARE TAKING THIS AS 19 EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AS A FIRST READING IF THIS IS THE 20 DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON. 21 WE WANT TO HAVE A SUNSHINE POLICY. WE WANT TO 22 HAVE A SUNSHINE POLICY THAT IS GOING TO WORK WELL FOR THE 23 DISTRICT. THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE 24 POTENTIALS TO BE VERY BIG PROBLEMS, AND I WON'T GO OVER 25 ALL OF THEM. AUGUST 26, 2010 49 1 FOR INSTANCE, ON PAGE 1 LINE 47 AND RIGHT AFTER 2 THAT, THERE'S A VERY BROAD DEFINITION OF "WRITING" WHICH 3 IS A DEFINITION THAT WOULD COVER PRACTICALLY ANYTHING, 4 INCLUDING THINGS ONE JUST THOUGHT OF, BUT HADN'T REALLY 5 WRITTEN DOWN. IT'S SO BROAD. 6 AS YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY NOTICED, THERE ARE A LOT 7 OF INCONSISTENCIES IN THE DOCUMENT ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD 8 COST OR WHAT IT WOULD COST FOR PRODUCING COPIES. AT ONE 9 POINT IT SAYS, THAT WE COULDN'T CHARGE MORE THAN 10 CENTS 10 A PAGE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WE CHARGE FOR OTHER 11 KIND OF COPYING. 12 SO A PROBLEM COULD ARISE WHERE STUDENTS WOULD 13 SAY, OH, WELL, IF I GO PHOTOCOPY IT MYSELF I HAVE TO PAY 14 15 CENTS A PAGE, BUT IF I GIVE THEM A REQUEST UNDER THE 15 SUNSHINE ORDINANCE, THEN THEY HAVE TO COPY IT FOR ME AND 16 IT WILL BE CHEAPER. ALL KINDS OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES 17 LIKE THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE KINDS 18 OF THINGS, BUT THAT ONE IS REALLY QUITE MINOR. 19 THE STUFF ABOUT IN SOME PLACES IT SAYS, "THE 20 ACTUAL COST" AND THAT ANY EMPLOYEE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO 21 WORK ON THIS THAT COULD RUN INTO PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF THE 22 AMOUNT OF TIME IT COULD END UP GETTING PULLED INTO DOING 23 SUNSHINE POLICY WORK INSTEAD OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN 24 HIRED TO DO. 25 ANOTHER THING THAT SEEMS SMALL, BUT COULD END UP AUGUST 26, 2010 50 1 BEING A PROBLEM FOR THE DISTRICT, IS ON PAGE 11, LINE 19, 2 WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT MAKING PUBLIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE 3 APPLICANTS FOR A JOB. IT REALLY SHOULD SAY, "THE 4 QUALIFIED APPLICANT POOL." NOT JUST ANYBODY WHO HAS SENT 5 IN AN APPLICATION, BUT THOSE WHO WERE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SECTION 11? 7 MS. SAGINOR: YEAH. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: SECTION 11, NOT PAGE 11. 9 MS. SAGINOR: LET ME FIND IT MYSELF. 10 MR. TETI: PAGE 3(A). 11 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT? 12 MR. TETI: PAGE 3(A) ON PAGE 46. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, PAGE 46. 14 MS. SAGINOR: I'M SORRY. 15 MR. TETI: THERE'S A DIFFERENT PAGINATION. 16 MS. SAGINOR: DIFFERENT PAGINATION. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT NUMBER IS IT? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: 3(A). 19 MS. SAGINOR: 3(A). 20 TRUSTEE WONG: I SEE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I SEE 21 IT. 22 MS. SAGINOR: THERE ARE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. 23 BUT OUR MAIN CONCERN REALLY IS THAT A LOT OF 24 WORK GOT PUT INTO ANOTHER VERSION OF THIS DOCUMENT. THERE 25 WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THAT WHEN THERE'S A AUGUST 26, 2010 51 1 LOT OF GOOD STUFF THAT GOT WORKED OUT. THERE WAS A LOT OF 2 GOOD STUFF IN THAT VERSION OF IT. AND IT HAS SOMEHOW 3 DISAPPEARED FROM THE VERSION THAT WE ARE SEEING TONIGHT. 4 SO WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO TAKE THIS BACK, 5 GO GET THAT OTHER VERSION, RECONCILE THE TWO PERHAPS, AND 6 GO FROM THERE. 7 BUT IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, THEN WE 8 ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TIME FOR THE SHARED GOVERNANCE 9 POLICY. 10 THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL IS BEING STRICT ABOUT THE 11 BROWN ACT. SO FOR INSTANCE, WE DISCUSSED THIS IN 12 EXECUTIVE COUNCIL YESTERDAY, BUT IT WAS OUR FIRST TIME 13 LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT, SO I WOULDN'T ENTERTAIN A MOTION 14 TO VOTE ON OUR RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY OUR 15 FIRST READING OF IT. SO WE DON'T -- WE WANT TO HAVE A 16 GOOD DOCUMENT AND GO THROUGH A PROPER PROCESS, SO THANK 17 YOU VERY MUCH. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: SO IF I MAY THROUGH THE CHAIR. 19 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE WONG. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: KAREN, THE CONCERNS THAT THE 22 ACADEMIC SENATE HAS, HOW DO YOU WANT THE BOARD TO ADDRESS 23 THEM IN TERMS OF -- BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A SECOND READING 24 AT THE NEXT GENERAL BOARD MEETING AND YOU EXPRESSED SOME 25 CONCERNS. AUGUST 26, 2010 52 1 MS. SAGINOR: SO WHAT I AM GIVING YOU THIS 2 EVENING ARE INFORMAL CONCERNS. AS I SAID, WE ARE NOT ABLE 3 TO VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY OUR FIRST READING OF 4 THIS DOCUMENT. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. 6 MS. SAGINOR: IF THIS DOCUMENT WERE TO COME BACK 7 FOR A SECOND READING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, WE WILL HAVE 8 HAD A SECOND READING OF IT. WE COULD MAKE A FORMAL 9 RECOMMENDATION. I STRONGLY SUSPECT THAT OUR 10 RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO TABLE, TO SEND IT BACK TO 11 COMMITTEE. I MEAN THE BASIC MESSAGE THAT I AM GETTING IS 12 WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT WORK THAT WAS DONE? 13 TRUSTEE WONG: SO YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR THE 14 RECORD. 15 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 17 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 19 MS. SAGINOR: YES. WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT 20 WORK THAT WAS DONE TO MAKE THE DOCUMENT WORK FOR CITY 21 COLLEGE IN WAYS THAT WILL WORK WELL. WE ARE CONCERNED 22 ABOUT OUR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THINGS THAT WE 23 DON'T -- 24 TRUSTEE WONG: I UNDERSTAND. 25 MS. SAGINOR: WE DON'T THINK THROUGH CLEARLY AUGUST 26, 2010 53 1 ENOUGH AND THEN THEY BITE US BIG. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. I'M JUST THINKING OF THE 3 PROCESS -- 4 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THAT YOU HAD IN MIND. 6 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: PRESIDENT MARKS. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE BERG. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: SO THIS SAYS THIS WAS APPROVED BY 13 SHARED GOVERNANCE. IN FACT, IT WAS NOT APPROVED BY SHARED 14 GOVERNANCE. 15 MS. SAGINOR: THIS WAS NOT APPROVED BY SHARED 16 GOVERNANCE. I AM NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR ON THE STATUS OF THE 17 EARLIER DOCUMENT. I KNOW THAT THAT ONE WAS DISCUSSED 18 THROUGH MULTIPLE CHANNELS, BUT THAT ONE -- DID THAT ONE 19 GET A FINAL APPROVAL THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE? I DON'T 20 THINK SO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT DRAFT CAME BACK. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT 22 DOESN'T MATTER. 23 MS. SAGINOR: I DIDN'T FIND THAT OUT. I WORKED 24 FROM THIS DOCUMENT. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, WHAT I AM SAYING IS IT AUGUST 26, 2010 54 1 DOESN'T MATTER WHICH DOCUMENT. IF THIS ONE WAS NOT 2 APPROVED BY YOU, THEN IT SHOULDN'T SAY, IT WAS APPROVED BY 3 YOU. 4 MS. SAGINOR: THAT'S VERY RIGHT. CORRECT. 5 THANK YOU. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: SO THAT MEANS THAT I THINK THAT 7 PROBABLY THIS SHOULD BE TABLED TO ALLOW YOU TO REVIEW IT 8 AND COME BACK WITH COMMENTS BECAUSE IF IT REALLY IS A 9 SUNSHINE ORDINANCE, THEN IT SHOULD BE REALLY A SUNSHINE 10 ORDINANCE. I DON'T THINK IT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO 11 CUT OUT ALL THE REST OF THE INSTITUTION. SO I THINK I 12 WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO MOVE TO TABLE IT. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: I WILL SECOND THAT. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: WAIT FOR ONE MINUTE. 15 HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO 16 NEED? 17 MS. SAGINOR: THE REAL QUESTION IS WILL WE GET 18 BACK THAT EARLIER DOCUMENT? 19 IF WE DON'T GET BACK THE EARLIER DOCUMENT, AND 20 WE ARE STARTING OVER FROM THIS ONE, THEN IT IS GOING TO 21 TAKE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. IF WE GET BACK THE 22 EARLIER DOCUMENT, THEN IT PROBABLY WON'T TAKE SO LONG. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU MEAN THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND 24 AN EARLIER DOCUMENT AND REPLACE THIS DOCUMENT OR WHAT? 25 MS. SAGINOR: IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN AUGUST 26, 2010 55 1 HERE -- THERE WAS A WORK GROUP THAT HAD BEEN WORKING ON 2 IT. I THINK THE WORK GROUP SHOULD LOOK AT THE EARLIER 3 DOCUMENT, LOOK AT THIS ONE, SEE IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT 4 GOT ADDED HERE THAT REALLY ARE IMPORTANT AND NEED TO GET 5 ADDED. I MEAN MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF 6 RECONCILIATION BETWEEN THE EARLIER DOCUMENT AND THIS 7 DOCUMENT. I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD BE 8 DOING. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, LET ME MAKE A -- 10 TRUSTEE BERG: I'M TRYING TO GET A TIMELINE. SO 11 WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT IS APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH 12 TIME THEY THINK THEY NEED SO THAT I CAN EITHER PUT A TIME 13 CERTAIN OR LEAVE IT OPEN-ENDED. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, TRUSTEE BERG, I WAS 15 GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE SEND THIS TO COMMITTEE. I DON'T 16 THINK WE SHOULD ASK THEM TO REVIEW THE NEW DOCUMENT. I 17 THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAD WORKED 18 ON. AND I THINK THAT WE SAW THIS AT THE BOARD ONCE 19 BEFORE -- 20 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, WE DID. 21 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AND USED THAT AS A 22 STARTING POINT AND DO IT AT A BOARD COMMITTEE AND THEN SEE 23 IF THERE'S ANYTHING FROM THE NEW DOCUMENT THAT WE NEED TO 24 ADD. RATHER THAN SENDING IT THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE ALL 25 OVER AGAIN. AUGUST 26, 2010 56 1 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S FINE. I THINK THAT'S 2 FINE, BUT I DO THINK IT HAS TO GO TO THE SHARED GOVERNANCE 3 COMMITTEE. I DO THINK THAT REALLY IT LEGITIMATELY HAS TO 4 BE ALL INCLUSIVE. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, ANY 6 TIME WE INTRODUCE SOMETHING, A RESOLUTION, WE DON'T SEND 7 THINGS TO SHARED GOVERNANCE. SHARED GOVERNANCE CAN REVIEW 8 THINGS, BUT WE DON'T TAKE ANY ACTION TO SEND THINGS TO 9 SHARED GOVERNANCE. AND THE WAY WE SET UP THE POLICIES 10 LAST YEAR WAS THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP ENOUGH TIME BETWEEN 11 THE INTRODUCTION OF THE RESOLUTION AND WHEN IT APPEARED ON 12 AN AGENDA TO ENABLE SHARED GOVERNANCE TO WEIGH IN. 13 SO AT THE SAME TIME IT GOES TO THE POLICY 14 COMMITTEE, THEN PERHAPS IT SHOULD GO TO THE -- IT SHOULD 15 BE AVAILABLE TO SHARED GOVERNANCE AS WELL AND THEN THE 16 POLICY COMMITTEE AND THE SHARED GOVERNANCE ENTITIES CAN 17 BRING WHATEVER FORWARD TO THE BOARD. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: BEFORE IT GOES TO SHARED 19 GOVERNANCE, WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER MEETING OF THE GROUP OF 20 US THAT WORKED ON IT. WE HAD THE CLASSIFIED SENATE 21 REPRESENTED. WE HAD THE ACADEMIC SENATE REPRESENTED. AND 22 I WAS THERE AND TRUSTEE GRIER WAS THERE. AND WE SHOULD 23 HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN COME 24 UP WITH BEFORE WE SEND IT TO SHARED GOVERNANCE AGAIN OR 25 BEFORE SHARED GOVERNANCE TAKES IT UP AGAIN. I THINK WE AUGUST 26, 2010 57 1 NEED TO HAVE THAT MEETING. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOU WANTED TO 3 SAY SOMETHING. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I TOO DO REMEMBER AT LEAST 5 SEEING THE OLD VERSION AT THIS BOARD LEVEL ALREADY. SO I 6 HAVE TO ASSUME THAT WE SAW THE FIRST VERSION. 7 HAS THERE BEEN ANY IMPROVEMENTS UP ON THE FIRST 8 VERSION? NOT THE FIRST VERSION, BUT THE EARLIER VERSION 9 THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. HAVEN'T WE SENT THAT THROUGH 10 SHARED GOVERNANCE AND WORKED ON IT THROUGH COMMITTEE 11 LEVELS? 12 BECAUSE IF IT WAS READY TO COME TO THIS BOARD 13 WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN THE FIRST TIME 14 WE SAW THE OLD VERSION OF THE SUNSHINE POLICY AND NOW THAT 15 WE ARE SEEING A DIFFERENT VERSION THAT WE ARE SEEING IN 16 THE SUNSHINE POLICY. WHAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON IT? 17 MS. SAGINOR: SINCE I AM NEW AS ACADEMIC SENATE 18 PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO LET WHAT'S HAPPENED TO DATE GO TO 19 MY COLLEAGUE HERE, ATTILA GABOR. 20 MR. GABOR: YES, HI, MY NAME IS ATTILA GABOR, 21 AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE CLASSIFIED SENATE. I ALSO 22 WORKED WITH THAT PARTICULAR DOCUMENT AND THE TRUSTEES AND 23 MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE DISTRICT. 24 BASICALLY THERE WAS A VERSION AND JUST TO -- 25 BECAUSE THERE WERE QUESTIONS WAS THERE ANYTHING PASSED? AUGUST 26, 2010 58 1 AND INDEED ON MARCH 4TH OF 2010, THERE WAS A 2 VERSION PASSED THAT WAS REVIEWED BY -- THAT WAS ACTUALLY 3 THEN VISITED LATER ON BY THIS BOARD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT 4 HAPPENED. I DON'T KNOW -- IT WASN'T THE FULL BOARD. I 5 THINK IT WAS JUST WITH A GROUP OR THE COMMITTEE. I DON'T 6 KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT VERSION, BUT THERE WAS ONE 7 VERSION THAT, AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, ACTUALLY DID GO 8 THROUGH THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL. AND I BELIEVE THAT 9 WAS A VERSION THAT THIS BOARD LIKED. 10 I KNOW THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONS IN THIS. I 11 THINK I TALKED LIKE 50 MINUTES IN JUNE, SO I DON'T WANT TO 12 REPEAT MYSELF. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I ALSO -- 14 MR. GABOR: BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE 15 QUESTIONS. 16 MR. JACKSON: SO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO WHERE DID THIS VERSION COME 19 FROM? 20 MR. GABOR: I DON'T KNOW. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S LIKE A MYSTERIOUS VERSION 22 THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF ANYBODY WERE TO GO BACK AND 24 TAKE A LOOK AT THE TRANSCRIPT FROM MEETINGS WHEN WE WERE 25 TALKING ABOUT AN EARLIER VERSION OR EARLIER SECTIONS OF AUGUST 26, 2010 59 1 SUNSHINE, WE HAD EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEMS. THINGS THAT 2 WERE BEING TALKED ABOUT WERE NOT THE THINGS THAT CAME TO 3 THE BOARD, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS AREA IS THE ONE 4 THAT KEEPS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. 5 MR. GABOR: WHAT I CAN DO THAT WOULD SOLVE THIS 6 PROBLEM WHICH WE ARE DOING NOW WITH THE PBC DOCUMENTS AND 7 WE ARE ALSO GOING TO START NEXT WEEK WITH THE COLLEGE 8 ADVISORY THAT ALL, NOT JUST THE MINUTES, BUT ALL ACTIONS 9 ARE GOING TO BE POSTED SO THAT ACCOMPANYING INFORMATION BE 10 POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND WE CAN POST WHAT THE COLLEGE 11 ADVISORY DID PASS. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 13 MR. GABOR: THAT'S A BRIDGE. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I AM ALMOST DONE. IT IS JUST 17 MY CONCERN THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOARD AND WHEN IT 18 COMES TO THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD LEVEL, IT'S JUST A 19 LITTLE SCARY THAT WE ARE GETTING A VERSION THAT NO ONE HAS 20 SEEN WITHIN THIS INSTITUTION. THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING 21 TO ME, YOU KNOW, JUST MULTIPLE LEVELS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE 22 ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SUNSHINE POLICY AND ALL THE WORK 23 THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE ON A SPECIFIC VERSION OF THIS. 24 MR. GABOR: RIGHT. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND SO I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I AUGUST 26, 2010 60 1 SAW THIS IN MY PACKET. AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, I'VE NEVER 2 READ THIS, MAYBE THEY'VE DONE WORK AND IT CHANGED 3 SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT THAT'S APPARENTLY NOT THE CASE. 4 SO I WOULD SAY, LET'S GET RID OF THIS VERSION 5 AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE SCRUB ALL RECORD OF THIS VERSION SO 6 THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ONE. THAT WE ARE 7 ALL WORKING COLLECTIVELY ON ONE DOCUMENT SO THAT WE CAN 8 SAVE TIME IN GOING THROUGH A PROCESS AGAIN BECAUSE I DON'T 9 WANT US JUST TO THEN TAKE THE SAME DOCUMENT THROUGH THE 10 SAME PROCESS AGAIN. SO AS LONG AS WE GET RID OF THIS. 11 AND WE NEVER SEE THIS AGAIN. AND WE HAVE ONE DOCUMENT. 12 AND WE GET IT TO COMMITTEE. AND WE GET THIS BACK AS SOON 13 AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE 14 A SUNSHINE POLICY. 15 LET'S ALL JUST WORK ON THE SAME DOCUMENT. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: FIRST OF ALL, OBVIOUSLY, I HOPE 18 THAT THE COSPONSORS WOULD WITHDRAW THIS MOTION, THIS P1 AT 19 LEAST FOR THE FIRST READING. I WANT TO SAY THERE IS 20 ACTUALLY A LOT OF GOOD STUFF IN HERE. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, THERE IS. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE PROCEDURAL 23 ISSUES. RIGHT? 24 OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S BEEN OTHER WORK THAT HAS BEEN 25 DONE THROUGH THIS KIND OF MUTUAL PROCESS. I WILL AUGUST 26, 2010 61 1 RECOMMEND THAT TRUSTEE GRIER AND TRUSTEE RIZZO TAKE THIS 2 DOCUMENT AND WORK WITH THE EXISTING DOCUMENT THAT YOU ALL 3 HAVE BEEN WORKING COLLECTIVELY ON. 4 AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY PROCEDURALLY AS POLICY 5 IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE CHAIR, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY OF 6 THOSE DOCUMENTS EITHER THIS ONE OR THE ONE THAT YOU ALL 7 HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. SO I HOPE THAT AT SOME POINT 8 WHATEVER YOU HAVE COMING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON 9 GOES THROUGH MY COMMITTEE BECAUSE I DO WANT TO SEE IT. 10 AND WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEGAL COUNSEL VETTED, OBVIOUSLY, 11 BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF LEGAL ISSUES INVOLVED IN THIS 12 POLICY PROPOSAL. 13 I DO WANT TO RECOMMEND TO THE AUTHORS IF I 14 COULD, THAT WE DO HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN MAKE THE 15 SUNSHINE POLICY A REALTIME SUNSHINE POLICY. OKAY? 16 SO INSTEAD OF -- WE HAVE THE CALENDARS ON HERE, 17 AND YOU HAVE THE DATA -- YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENTS. YOU CAN 18 PUT SCHEDULES ONLINE. YOU CAN GOOGLE CALENDAR AND SHARE 19 THEM PUBLICLY, A PUBLIC CALENDAR, NOT A PRIVATE CALENDAR. 20 YOU CAN ALSO PUT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN HERE 21 AUTOMATICALLY AND PUT IN A CLOUD AND HAVE IT ACCESSIBLE BY 22 THE PUBLIC. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE 23 YOU ARE RETRIEVING DOCUMENTS. INSTEAD YOU CAN ACTUALLY 24 HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE AUTOMATICALLY PUBLIC IN A 25 SHARED CLOUD, A CLOUD STORAGE AND HAVE IT ACCESSIBLE BY AUGUST 26, 2010 62 1 THE PUBLIC JUST LIKE THIS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH 2 THE ADMINISTRATIVE TIME AND BACK AND FORTH. 3 SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL HERE. I 4 THINK THERE ARE SOME GREAT IDEAS. LET'S DO WORK TOWARDS A 5 POLICY. 6 I WOULD URGE THAT THE PRESIDENT FORWARD WHATEVER 7 POLICY COMES OUT OF ANYTHING THROUGH MY COMMITTEE BECAUSE 8 I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SO, PRESIDENT MARKS, I HAVE A 10 MOTION ON THE FLOOR. I THINK ALL I WANT TO DO IS CLARIFY 11 THE MOTION BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, WHICH IS THAT IT'S TABLED 12 TO A TIME UNCERTAIN, WHICH MEANS IT CAN BE DONE NEXT MONTH 13 OR IT CAN BE DONE IN TWO OR THREE MONTHS, BUT I WOULD LIKE 14 TO GET A SPECIFIC PASSAGE TO THIS PARTICULAR MOTION AND 15 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 16 SO CAN WE VOTE ON THAT, THAT IT BE TABLED TO A 17 TIME UNCERTAIN. AS SOON AS THEY CAN GET TO US WOULD BE 18 GREAT, BUT -- 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO SECOND 20 THAT? 21 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S WAS SECONDED. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: DID YOU DO YOUR MOTION ON THE 23 FLOOR? 24 TRUSTEE BERG: I AM CLARIFYING MY ORIGINAL 25 MOTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T -- I ASKED HOW MUCH TIME IT WAS AUGUST 26, 2010 63 1 GOING TO TAKE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT HASN'T BEEN SECONDED. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, IT HAS. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: I DID IT. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: IT HAD BEEN. IT WAS SECONDED 6 BOTH TIMES. 7 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHY UNCERTAIN? WHY NOT 8 JUST BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH? 9 TRUSTEE WONG: WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING 10 TO TAKE FOR YOU GUYS -- 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET TRUSTEE GRIER -- THEY'VE 12 MADE THE MOTION. LET'S LET TRUSTEE GRIER SAY SOMETHING 13 AND THEN TRUSTEE RIZZO. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS THAT 15 THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, IT DOES SAY THAT IT WAS A "YES" 16 FROM SHARED GOVERNANCE. AND I GUESS I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE 17 PROCESS WAS IF SHARED GOVERNANCE IS SAYING THAT IT WASN'T 18 A "YES" AND IT SAYS, "YES." HOW COULD SUCH A THING 19 HAPPEN? 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: THERE MUST HAVE BEEN WORK 21 BETWEEN MARCH 4TH AND NOW. AND THAT WAS THE LAST TIME 22 THAT THE SHARED GOVERNANCE OR THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL 23 HAD TAKEN A LOOK AT IT? 24 TRUSTEE BERG: SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN 25 IT BEFORE. AUGUST 26, 2010 64 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, LET ME -- 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: I KNOW THAT THERE WERE 3 MEETINGS GOING ON. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH, THERE WERE. AND I THINK 5 FRANCINE HAD A CARD. AND I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR WHAT YOU 6 HAVE TO SAY. WE'VE HEARD WHAT ATTILA SAID. I WOULD LIKE 7 TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 8 MS. PODENSKI: WELL, THIS DOCUMENT WHICH DOES 9 HAVE -- 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: INTRODUCE YOURSELF, FRANCINE. 11 MS. PODENSKI: FRANCINE PODENSKI, BROADCAST 12 ELECTRONIC MEDIA ARTS AND A MEMBER OF THIS WORK GROUP. 13 THIS DOCUMENT I THINK DOES HAVE SOME VERY GOOD 14 IDEAS IN IT. IT ALSO HAS SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD WANT TO 15 DISCUSS FURTHER. 16 IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE 17 DISCUSSED WITH THIS BODY IN JUNE, WHICH IS THE LAST TIME I 18 WAS INVOLVED WITH ANY WORK ON THE DOCUMENT. 19 IN FACT, TRUSTEE RIZZO AND I EXCHANGED A 20 COMMUNICATION DURING THE SUMMER AND AGREED THAT IN AUGUST 21 WHEN WE CAN RECONVENE AND FINISH UP THE DOCUMENT AND BRING 22 IT BACK TO THIS BODY. 23 SO WHEN I RETURNED FROM THE SUMMER, THIS WAS THE 24 DOCUMENT, THE VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS AVAILABLE. 25 I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM EXACTLY BECAUSE IT WAS AUGUST 26, 2010 65 1 JUST AVAILABLE. I DON'T KNOW ITS ORIGINATION. I DO THINK 2 IT WOULD BE USEFUL. 3 I'M KIND OF DISMAYED THAT HERE WE ARE AGAIN 4 DOING CIRCLES AROUND THIS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS 5 PASSED. BUT I AGREE PRESIDENT SAGINOR THAT WE DO NOT WANT 6 TO CREATE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND WE ARE SO 7 CLOSE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AS A TARGET BY NEXT MONTH, 8 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. AND THE NEXT TIME 9 WE ARE BACK HERE, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO MONTHS, IT'S 10 READY TO GO. IT'S OVERDUE. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, UNLESS 11 YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME THAT I CAN ANSWER. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH 13 ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE SAID. I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT NATALIE 14 SAID. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A DATE CERTAIN. 15 THE OTHER PART THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS 16 AND THAT IS THE COMMENTS BY RICHARD KNEE. AND SO IF WE 17 ARE GOING TO TABLE IT AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THE GROUP 18 BACK TOGETHER AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE 19 THERE AND WHAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE AND KIND OF LIKE MEDIATE 20 THE OTHER PART, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT. 21 AND SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THE MOTION WITH A DATE 22 CERTAIN. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE BERG. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: I'M WILLING TO PUT A DATE CERTAIN 25 ON, BUT IF YOU DO A DATE NEXT CERTAIN, IT COULD COME BACK AUGUST 26, 2010 66 1 NEXT MONTH OR IT COULD COME BACK THE FOLLOWING MONTH. WE 2 DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. 3 SO I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KEEP THE 4 RESOLUTION AS IS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AS SOON AS 5 IT'S DONE YOU WILL COME BACK TO US. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO 6 TAKE SIX MONTHS. 7 I SUSPECT EVERYBODY WANTS THIS DONE RIGHT AWAY 8 ANYHOW, SO I KNOW TIME PERMITTING YOU WILL GET IT DONE AS 9 FAST AS POSSIBLE. SO IT'S PROBABLY SAFER FOR US TO KEEP 10 IT OPEN-ENDED AND HAVE THEM COME BACK AS SOON AS THEY CAN 11 WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOU WANTED TO 13 SAY SOMETHING. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE 15 POINTS THAT I MADE AND I THINK TRUSTEE NGO TOUCHED UPON 16 AGAIN. I KNOW WE HAVE A WORK GROUP, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT 17 WORK GROUP TO WORK THROUGH A COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 18 SET UP A STRUCTURE WITHIN THIS COLLEGE THAT STOPS STUFF 19 JUST LIKE THIS. HAD THIS GONE THROUGH AN ACTUAL 20 COMMITTEE, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT THIS ISN'T THE 21 EXACT VERSION THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING ON. AND IT 22 WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY GOTTEN APPROVED THROUGH A COMMITTEE 23 AND THEN COME TO THIS BOARD, SO I RESPECT -- I DO RESPECT 24 THE WORK GROUP, BUT I ALSO WOULD LOVE IF THE WORK GROUP 25 WOULD WORK WITHIN A BOARD COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE AUGUST 26, 2010 67 1 THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT GETS DONE. 2 I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT AS MUCH AS I LOVE 3 FLEXIBILITY, I WOULD LIKE A DATE CERTAIN JUST BECAUSE IT 4 PUTS THE ONUS OF ALL OF US AS A FAMILY TO REALLY WORK ON 5 THIS AND TO PRIORITIZE THIS AND GET THIS BACK TO THE BOARD 6 IN WHATEVER DATE WE DETERMINE. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF 7 A DATE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A STRICT DATE. IT DOESN'T 8 HAVE TO BE LIKE TOMORROW. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE 9 TOMORROW. IT COULD BE A DATE THAT WE CAN WORK AROUND, BUT 10 IT SHOULD BE A DATE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS 11 DOCUMENT DONE. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO COMMENTS. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: TWO MONTHS? 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE HAVE TRUSTEE RIZZO AND 14 THEN -- 15 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I DON'T SUPPORT 16 TABLING IT TO A TIME UNCERTAIN AND WILL VOTE AGAINST THAT. 17 I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 18 I THINK IT SHOULD BE SENT TO THE POLICY 19 COMMITTEE AND OUR BOARD POLICY ALLOWS US TO MOVE TO SEND 20 SOMETHING TO A COMMITTEE. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT ACT. 21 I THINK TABLING IT TO A TIME UNCERTAIN SENDS THE WRONG 22 MESSAGE IF WE ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. I THINK WE ARE 23 SERIOUS ABOUT IT. AND THE POLICY COMMITTEE IS THE CORRECT 24 PLACE TO PUT IT. 25 I WOULD SAY BEFORE THE POLICY COMMITTEE HEARD AUGUST 26, 2010 68 1 IT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE OUR GROUP, OUR SHARED GOVERNANCE 2 KIND OF AN AD HOC GROUP WORK ON IT AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO 3 POLICY AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK HERE. BUT I THINK IT 4 IS TOO OPEN-ENDED TO TABLE IT. AND I WOULD RATHER JUST 5 HAVE US JUST SEND IT TO COMMITTEE. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE BERG HAS SOMETHING TO 7 SAY FIRST AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. 8 TRUSTEE BERG. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, THAT'S FINE. WHAT DO YOU 10 THINK TWO MONTHS? 11 I DON'T CARE. I AM NOT WEDDED TO THE IDEA OF 12 WHETHER IT IS OPEN-ENDED OR A TIME CERTAIN. SO WHAT DO 13 YOU THINK, TWO MONTHS? SO ANYTIME WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF 14 TWO MONTHS? 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON, TWO MONTHS? 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IF YOU'VE GOT TWO MONTHS -- 17 I'M NOT STUCK ON THE TIME. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE 18 OPEN-ENDED, BUT I'M NOT A STICKLER ON TIME. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MAY I ADD SOMETHING? 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: DO WHATEVER YOU GUYS FEEL 21 COMFORTABLE. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MAY I? 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, SO SINCE TAKING 25 OFFICE JUNE 1ST AS A STUDENT TRUSTEE, I'VE ASKED MANY AUGUST 26, 2010 69 1 QUESTIONS. I'VE ASKED ATTILA MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2 BROWN ACT, SUNSHINE ORDINANCE. I'VE TRIED TO LEARN AS 3 MUCH AS I CAN. 4 I ACTUALLY HAVE THE -- I HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN 5 THE WORK GROUP THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. AND I 6 BELIEVE EVERYONE IN THE GROUP WANTS TO HAVE THIS DONE AS 7 SOON AS POSSIBLE AND TO GET IT RIGHT. 8 SO I DON'T THINK THE TIME UNCERTAIN WOULD CREATE 9 SORT OF A EXTENDED PERIOD OR THE WRONG MESSAGE. I THINK 10 THE WORK GROUP WANTS TO GET IT DONE VERY QUICKLY. THEY 11 JUST WANT TO HAVE THE RIGHT DOCUMENT. SO I WOULD SUPPORT 12 TRUSTEES BERG'S MOTION HERE. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I GUESS I'M NEXT. 15 JUST KNOWING WITHIN MY HISTORY WITHIN THE 16 INSTITUTION, I KNOW THAT WE RESPOND WITH A LITTLE BIT 17 BETTER WITH A TIME CERTAIN. EVERYBODY, I THINK EVERYBODY 18 RESPONDS WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEONE A DEADLINE, I THINK YOU 19 RESPOND A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE OF URGENCY. 20 THE REASON I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE IN THE 21 COMMITTEE STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE 22 MINUTES. IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT EASIER TO DOCUMENT (A) WHAT 23 CHANGES ARE MADE BECAUSE YOU HAVE MINUTES. YOU HAVE 24 RECORDINGS. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: ACTUALLY, THERE ARE NOT AUGUST 26, 2010 70 1 MINUTES IN COMMITTEES. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OH. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: THERE SHOULD BE, BUT THERE 4 AREN'T. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OH, SILLY ME. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: THERE SHOULD BE MINUTES. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M JUST SAYING WITHIN THE 8 COMMITTEE STRUCTURE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE 9 ACCOUNTABILITY I WOULD SAY. 10 AND SO I MEAN OVERALL, I WOULD LIKE TO USE A 11 STRUCTURE THAT WE APPROVE AS A BOARD. AND SO WHILE I DO 12 ONCE AGAIN RESPECT YOUR WORK, I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THAT 13 WE PUT THIS EITHER IN POLICY COMMITTEE OR PUT THIS IN 14 TRUSTEE NGO'S COMMITTEE SO THAT WE WORK ON DOCUMENTS 15 WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF OUR BOARD. AND THAT WE HAVE A 16 DATE AND A TIME CERTAIN. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHAT I AM NOT COMPLETELY 18 CERTAIN IS GOING ON HERE IS EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK THAT 19 WE SHOULD BE SENDING THIS TO A COMMITTEE OR BACK TO SOME 20 PLACE, BUT IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE TIME 21 TABLE FOR 20 MINUTES. AND OUR POLICIES SAY, HALF AN HOUR 22 FOR ANY ONE ISSUE, SO WHY DON'T WE -- 23 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE TWO 24 ISSUES HERE. YOU ARE CORRECT, PRESIDENT MARKS. THE ISSUE 25 OF TIMELINE -- OKAY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WASTE ANYMORE AUGUST 26, 2010 71 1 TIME TALKING ABOUT A TIMELINE. IF PEOPLE WANT A TIMELINE, 2 TWO MONTHS I THINK THAT'S FINE. 3 THE OTHER ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD GO 4 TO POLICY COMMITTEE, CONTINUE WITH THE EXISTING COMMITTEE, 5 THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. BUT THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE 6 NOW IS REGARDING TABLING TO A TIME -- WELL, TO A TIME 7 CERTAIN, LET'S SAY TWO MONTHS. AND LET'S VOTE ON THAT AND 8 DECIDE ON THE COMMITTEE ASPECT LATER ON. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF ORDER. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT'S THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE 12 AT THIS POINT? 13 TRUSTEE WONG: TO TABLE. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: TO TABLE THIS FOR -- 15 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: TO A TIME UNCERTAIN. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- FOR TWO MONTHS. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: CALL THE QUESTION. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: TWO MONTHS -- 19 TRUSTEE BERG: TWO MONTHS. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- AT THE LATEST. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: YES. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: TO A TIME CERTAIN, TWO MONTHS. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: TWO MONTHS. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE 25 BOARD MEETING. AUGUST 26, 2010 72 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: I HAVE TWO MORE CARDS ON THIS 2 THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR. SO WE CAN HEAR THESE AND THEN VOTE. 3 THE FIRST ONE IS ALISA MESSER. 4 MS. MESSER: ALISA MESSER, AFT 2121. 5 I THINK IF THIS IS GOING TO COMMITTEE, THAT 6 WOULD BE A FINE RESOLUTION. WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS. AND 7 WE CAN SPEAK AND GO THROUGH THE SHARED GOVERNANCE PROCESS. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND GUS GOLDSTEIN. 9 MS. GOLDSTEIN: GUS GOLDSTEIN, AFT 2121 VICE 10 PRESIDENT. I'M CONCERNED EVEN WITH TWO MONTHS, MAYBE TWO 11 MONTHS IS SUFFICIENT, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF TIMING. THE 12 NEXT COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING IS NEXT WEEK. SO 13 THERE WON'T BE ANY DOCUMENT TO SEND TO THEM BY THEN. 14 SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE A DOCUMENT GOING 15 BACK TO A COMMITTEE OR SOME SORT OF FORMAT, YOU ARE GOING 16 TO CREATE SOME SORT OF COMPOSITE DOCUMENT, SOME SORT OF 17 DOCUMENT THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO PRESENT, THEN IT HAS TO 18 GO TO SHARED GOVERNANCE. THEN THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETED IN 19 TIME FOR THE FOLLOWING SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE 20 MEETING. IF IT IS NOT COMPLETED IN TIME OR IF GOD FORBID 21 THE COMMITTEE IS UNABLE TO FINISH THEIR CONSIDERATION OF 22 IT WITHIN THE TWO-HOUR FRAMEWORK THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR 23 AGENDA WHERE THEY HAVE OTHER ISSUES TO CONSIDER AS WELL, 24 THEN THEY WILL NOT HAVE IT DONE WITHIN TWO MONTHS. AND IT 25 WILL NOT BE THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE WITHIN TWO MONTHS. AUGUST 26, 2010 73 1 SO I'M ASKING YOU TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT A 2 TIMELINE MEANS WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING EVERYTHING DONE IN 3 ORDER. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH -- I'M SURE HAVING 4 DEADLINES HELPS STIMULATE, BUT PEOPLE SIMPLY HAVE MEETINGS 5 SET WHEN THEY ARE SET. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: GUS, DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME. 7 I AM NOT FOR TWO MONTHS. IT COULD BE THREE MONTHS. 8 MS. GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT IS. 10 LET'S JUST SET A TIME. IT COULD BE THREE MONTHS. 11 MS. GOLDSTEIN: I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE TO BE 12 REALISTIC. I THINK THREE MONTHS IS MORE REALISTIC. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT CAN BE THREE MONTHS. 14 THAT'S OKAY WITH ME. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET'S VOTE ON THE TWO MONTHS 16 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: ISN'T THAT THE MOTION? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: THE RESOLUTION THAT'S ON THE 19 TABLE RIGHT NOW IS OPEN-ENDED. I SAID I WOULD CHANGE IT 20 TO TWO MONTHS IS FINE, BUT WE DO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THE 21 FLOOR. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 22 SO I EITHER HAVE TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION AND DO 23 A NEW ONE OR WE VOTE IT DOWN OR WE VOTE IT UP AND THEN WE 24 JUST DO ANOTHER ONE, SO IT'S COMPLICATED. 25 SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO VOTE AUGUST 26, 2010 74 1 ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION? DO YOU WANT ME TO CHANGE IT TO 2 TWO MONTHS? 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO 4 DO. OUR POLICY SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OR THE 5 BOARD BY RESOLUTION CAN SEND SOMETHING TO COMMITTEE. I 6 THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE 7 TABLING THIS. I THINK WE SHOULD BE SENDING IT TO 8 COMMITTEE WITHOUT A TIME ON IT. 9 HOWEVER, OUR POLICIES SAY THAT ONCE SOMETHING -- 10 ALTHOUGH THIS ISN'T DEVELOPED PROBABLY AS MUCH AS IT 11 SHOULD BE. ONCE SOMETHING IS INTRODUCED, THEN THERE'S 45 12 DAYS OR TWO MONTHS -- I THINK UP TO 45 DAYS BEFORE WHICH 13 IT HAS TO COME BACK TO US. 14 I UNDERSTAND, GUS, YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 15 TIMING. THOSE ARE OUR POLICIES. SO UNLESS WE CHANGE THE 16 POLICIES, I THINK THE WORK CAN GET DONE. AND I THINK THAT 17 WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE NIMBLE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SAY 18 IT'S NOT READY TO COME BACK TO US AND TO RESPECT THAT IT'S 19 NOT. SO I WOULD PREFER TO SEE A MOTION TO REFER IT TO 20 COMMITTEE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: POLICY COMMITTEE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: TO A POLICY COMMITTEE RATHER 23 THAN TO TABLE IT. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE, HOW DOES 25 THAT INCLUDE THE FACULTY SHARED GOVERNANCE? AUGUST 26, 2010 75 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE DON'T REFER THINGS TO THE 2 FACULTY SHARED GOVERNANCE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S 3 ACTUALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CHANCELLOR. WE DON'T 4 DO THAT. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, THIS DOESN'T EXACTLY MAKE 6 SENSE. THE ONLY THING YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH 7 THIS IS PASS IT AS IS OR AMEND IT TO SAY THAT THE SHARED 8 GOVERNANCE NEEDS TO BE -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF ORDER. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: -- INCLUDED IN SOME WAY. YOU 11 CAN'T JUST SAY THAT -- YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT LEGALLY. 12 YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE THIS OFF THE TABLE WITHOUT MAKING ANY 13 MOTION ON IT. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: WE -- 15 TRUSTEE BERG: AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SEND IT 16 TO -- YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE? WHAT 17 COMMITTEE DO YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO? 18 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, WHAT COMMITTEE DOES IT GO 19 TO? 20 TRUSTEE BERG: WHAT? 21 TRUSTEE NGO: IT SHOULD GO TO THE POLICY 22 COMMITTEE, RIGHT? IT'S A POLICY. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO THE POLICY 24 COMMITTEE? 25 TRUSTEE NGO: IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST THE AUGUST 26, 2010 76 1 POLICY COMMITTEE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO 2 THERE AT LEAST. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: POINT OF ORDER. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE 5 TRYING TO DO HERE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: LISTEN, I MEAN WE'VE HAD POLICIES 7 INTRODUCED SINCE LAST YEAR THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE 8 POLICY COMMITTEE A NUMBER OF TIMES. IT'S GONE THROUGH 9 SHARED GOVERNANCE. IT'S TAKEN THREE MONTHS. IT'S TAKEN 10 SIX MONTHS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SHARED 11 GOVERNANCE TO ACTUALLY GET A POLICY, TO GET FEEDBACK ON. 12 WE GET THEIR FEEDBACK WHETHER THEY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH 13 IT. 14 BUT OVER TIME, THE POLICY COMMITTEE WHICH MEETS 15 REGULARLY WILL REVIEW DOCUMENTS AT THE BOARD LEVEL. 16 EVERYONE HERE THAT SPOKE ACTUALLY COME TO THOSE MEETINGS. 17 THEY HAD INPUT THERE. AT SOME POINT WHEN A DOCUMENT IS 18 FINAL DOCUMENT, IT WILL GO TO SHARED GOVERNANCE. 19 EVEN WHILE IT IS NOT AT SHARED GOVERNANCE YET, 20 I'M SURE KAREN OR SOMEONE ELSE OR ATTILA WILL TAKE THEIR 21 CONCERNS TO SHARED GOVERNANCE AS IT MOVES ALONG, BUT IT 22 WON'T REALLY GET TAKEN UP BY SHARED GOVERNANCE UNTIL WE 23 HAVE A FINAL PRODUCT. WE DON'T HAVE ONE YET. BUT IT HAS 24 TO GO TO COMMITTEE FIRST. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. AUGUST 26, 2010 77 1 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO ACCEPT 2 PRESIDENT MARKS' RECOMMENDATION TO REFER THIS TO POLICY 3 COMMITTEE. I INVITE DR. GRIER AND TRUSTEE RIZZO. WE CAN 4 HAVE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IF YOU WANT. INVITE 5 EVERYONE OUT, AND WE CAN WORK ON THIS IN A WORKING GROUP 6 SESSION, NOT AN OPEN SESSION. AND WE WILL GET A FINAL 7 DOCUMENT. AND WE WILL GET IT TO SHARED GOVERNANCE, AND WE 8 WILL START THAT PROCESS AGAIN. 9 BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT THIS DOCUMENT 10 IS NOT RIGHT TO BE READ FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND THAT'S 11 THE PROBLEM. 12 SO IT WILL BE RIGHT AFTER THE COMMITTEE LOOKS AT 13 IT, WORKING WITH SHARED GOVERNANCE, WORKING WITH THE 14 ACADEMIC SENATE, AND OTHER CONSTITUENT GROUPS TO GET THE 15 RIGHT DOCUMENT TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE BOARD. AT THAT 16 POINT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. BUT THAT'S MY 17 RECOMMENDATION. 18 AND IF THERE'S NO -- IF YOU'VE WITHDRAWN YOUR 19 MOTION, THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION, MR. PRESIDENT. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU ARE 22 GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW THIS AND SEND 23 IT TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE. THAT'S THE MOTION YOU HAVE TO 24 MAKE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: FINE. THAT'S FINE. AUGUST 26, 2010 78 1 TRUSTEE BERG: AND THEN I WILL WITHDRAW MY 2 MOTION AND THEN THE SECONDER. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, WITHDRAW THE SECOND. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: WITHDRAW THE SECOND. 5 SO THAT'S THE MOTION YOU NEED TO MAKE TO KEEP IT 6 CLEAN. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. GOOD. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S FINE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I MADE A MOTION. I'M SORRY. 10 TRUSTEE BERG WITHDREW HER MOTION. I MADE THE MOTION. 11 LAWRENCE WONG SECONDED THE MOTION. AND WE CAN EITHER HAVE 12 A DISCUSSION OR CALL THE QUESTION. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: WHY DON'T WE JUST -- 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS WHAT I SUGGESTED 15 AT THE BEGINNING. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT IT'S THE WAY TO GO. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I CALL THE QUESTION. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: CALL FOR THE QUESTION. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): I ABSTAIN. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF 23 REFERRING THIS TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE, PLEASE SAY, "AYE." 24 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. AUGUST 26, 2010 79 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 7 I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GET THE WHOLE 8 PROCESS OF WHEN SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD INTRODUCES A 9 RESOLUTION THAT THE CLOCK STARTS, ACCORDING TO OUR 10 POLICIES, IN TERMS OF WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US AND HOW 11 SHARED GOVERNANCE IS NOTIFIED THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED. I 12 THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS WE NEED TO CHANGE THE 13 WORDING IN THE POLICY BECAUSE I THINK SOMETHING IS NOT 14 WORKING QUITE RIGHT. SO I AM GOING TO THINK ABOUT WAYS OF 15 DOING THAT AND WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT. 16 SO WE ARE BACK TO DISCUSSION ITEMS, ROMAN 17 NUMERAL VII. 18 IS CLARA STARR STILL HERE? 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: I DIDN'T SEE YOU BEHIND HER. 21 MS. STARR: GOOD EVENING -- 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: GOOD EVENING. 23 MS. STARR: -- BOARD OF TRUSTEES, CHANCELLOR, 24 STAFF, FACULTY AND ADMINISTRATORS. SO TONIGHT I'M GOING 25 TO REPORT TO YOU ON THE CONVICTION HISTORY. AUGUST 26, 2010 80 1 AS YOU KNOW, THE BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION IN 2 SEPTEMBER TO VOTE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER CERTAIN JOB 3 APPLICANT FINALISTS WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY 4 INVOLVED IN CONTROL SUBSTANCE, INCLUDING A DETERMINATION 5 OF REHABILITATION EVIDENCE. SO WHAT I PASSED OUT AND I 6 PUT SOME ON THE TABLE IS A REPORT SINCE THE LAST TIME WE 7 MET. I WILL JUST GO OVER THAT WITH YOU. 8 AT THE TOP, UPDATE FROM THE LAST REPORTING 9 PERIOD, AUGUST '09 AND FEBRUARY 2010. WE HAD SIX 10 APPLICANTS THAT REMAINED IN THE HIRING PROCESS IN 11 FEBRUARY. THREE OF THOSE APPLICANTS APPLIED FOR POSITIONS 12 THAT REMAIN ON HOLD DUE TO BUDGET. 13 THE THREE REMAINING POSITIONS, ONE APPLIED FOR A 14 JOB THAT CLOSED ON JANUARY '09. NO SCREENING WAS 15 CONDUCTED. ONE APPLICANT REMAINS IN A PART-TIME POOL THAT 16 HAS BEEN CLOSED AND SCREENING HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE. AND 17 THE OTHER APPLICANT, THE JOB WAS REISSUED, BUT THE 18 APPLICANT DID NOT REAPPLY. 19 AND FOR NOW THIS HIRING PERIOD, WE HAD ONE 20 APPLICANT WHO WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE HIRING PROCESS DUE 21 TO NOT BEING SELECTED FOR AN INTERVIEW. 22 WE ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE BOARD'S 23 DIRECTION. WHEN APPLICANTS APPLY, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT 24 THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THE POSITION IF THEY 25 MAKE IT THROUGH THE FINAL PROCESS. AUGUST 26, 2010 81 1 ALTHOUGH YOU DO KNOW THAT THE DISTRICT'S HIRING 2 HAS BEEN VERY, VERY LIMITED WHICH HAS ANOTHER IMPACT ON 3 THIS PROCESS. I THINK WE ONLY HIRED APPROXIMATELY SIX 4 CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES THIS YEAR. SO THERE HAS NOT BEEN 5 THAT MANY. 6 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: TWO QUESTIONS, QUICKLY. ONE, ARE 9 YOU MAINTAINING SUCH A CORRESPONDENCE WITH COUNSEL THAT 10 INITIATED THIS ISSUE? 11 MS. STARR: AS YOU SUGGESTED LAST TIME, I MAILED 12 THIS REPORT RIGHT AFTER THAT MEETING. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 14 MS. STARR: THIS TIME WE GOT IT LISTED IN CASE 15 THEY WANTED TO COME TONIGHT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 17 MS. STARR: AND I WILL MAIL THIS REPORT TO THEM 18 TOMORROW. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. GOOD. 20 SO ON THE SECOND PAGE, THE FACULTY SAYS, "ONE 21 APPLICANT WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE HIRING PROCESS DUE TO 22 THEY WEREN'T SELECTED FOR AN INTERVIEW." 23 MS. STARR: RIGHT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THESE NUMBERS ARE THOSE WHO 25 HAVE A CONVICTION HISTORY, RIGHT? AUGUST 26, 2010 82 1 MS. STARR: THAT'S RIGHT. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: SO -- 3 MS. STARR: THE FACULTY -- NO ONE KNOWS THAT -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 5 MS. STARR: -- BUT ME. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 7 MS. STARR: MY OFFICE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS 8 WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE. THE FACULTY AND THE SCREENING 9 COMMITTEE CANNOT SEE THAT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 11 MS. STARR: THAT DOCUMENT THEY DON'T GET. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. 13 DO YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE TO ENSURE THAT THE 14 PROCESS WAS NOT SOMEHOW EFFECTED BY ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT 15 INFORMATION. 16 IN OTHER WORDS, A LOT OF EMPLOYERS NOW, I'M NOT 17 SAYING THESE FACULTY MEMBERS DID IT, BUT OTHER EMPLOYERS 18 JUST GOOGLE A NAME, RIGHT? 19 AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN A NAME MIGHT COME UP 20 THAT MAY INDICATE SOME SORT OF CONVICTION HISTORY. AGAIN, 21 I'M NOT SAYING THIS WAS DONE. BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY PROCESS 22 BY WHICH YOU CAN KIND OF VERIFY YOURSELF THROUGH SOME 23 PROCESS THAT IT WASN'T CORRUPTED IN THAT WAY. IT'S OKAY 24 IF YOU DON'T. I JUST WANTED TO RAISE IT. 25 MS. STARR: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY TRIED TO GOOGLE AUGUST 26, 2010 83 1 IT. BUT LIKE I SAY, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE IT ON THE 3 DOCUMENT. 4 MS. STARR: RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE 6 INFORMATION CAN'T BE CONVEYED THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH OR 7 WHATEVER. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS JUST THINK ABOUT 8 WHAT I JUST SAID. 9 MS. STARR: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AND FIGURE OUT IF THE PROCESS CAN 11 STILL BE TAINTED. AND IF SO, MAYBE A WAY TO FIX IT. 12 BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ISSUE A SPOT FOR YOU. AND IF I 13 THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE, MAYBE COUNSEL WILL THINK 14 IT'S AN ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT JUST THAT ALONE, MAY 15 NOT BE ENOUGH. IT MAY. I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. 16 AND THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS THINK ABOUT IT. 17 MS. STARR: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AND LET ME KNOW IF IT'S WORTH 19 WHILE TO CONSIDER, OKAY? 20 MS. STARR: I WILL DO THE RESEARCH, AND I WILL 21 LET YOU KNOW. MY NEXT REPORT IS FEBRUARY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANKS. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD I ASK AT THIS 25 POINT, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER AND ADDING THIS TO IT, THAT SO AUGUST 26, 2010 84 1 FAR SINCE WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THIS POLICY, THERE HAVE BEEN 2 NO HIRES OF ANYONE WITH A PRIOR CONVICTION. 3 MS. STARR: THERE WERE A COUPLE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WERE? 5 MS. STARR: BUT THEY DIDN'T COME FROM THIS 6 PROCESS BECAUSE THEY HAD APPLIED RIGHT BEFORE THAT. AND 7 THEY HAVE BEEN HIRED. 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 9 MS. STARR: BUT THEY WON'T SHOW ON THIS REPORT 10 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THE 11 COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET AND APPROVE THEM. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 14 MS. STARR: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANKS VERY MUCH. 16 MS. STARR: OKAY. THE NEXT ONE I HAVE I ALSO 17 PUT DOCUMENTS ON THE SIDE. THE ADMINISTRATION EVALUATION 18 PROCESS. THE BOARD DIRECTED THE CHANCELLOR TO REVIEW THE 19 ADMINISTRATION PROCESS FOR EVALUATION. 20 LAST MONTH I BROUGHT TO YOU A LIST OF COLLEGES 21 THAT WE LOOKED AT THAT HAD EVALUATION PROCESSES. AND I 22 PUT TOGETHER A DOCUMENT THAT SHOWED FOUR OF THEM THAT WERE 23 VERY SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS WHICH IS USED HERE BY CITY 24 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 25 SO TONIGHT I ALSO HAVE FOR YOU -- THE CHANCELLOR AUGUST 26, 2010 85 1 ALSO HAS SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT WE GO BACK AND WE INCLUDE 2 THE PROCESS WHERE ORIGINALLY THE COMMITTEE WOULD VISIT THE 3 ADMINISTRATOR AND THEIR SITE, THEIR OFFICE WHERE THEY ARE 4 HOUSED. HE ALSO HAD ANOTHER SUGGESTION THAT WAS ON THE 5 DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAD LAST TIME. 6 THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS A 7 REVIEW FOR 2007-2008, 2008-2009, 2009-2010. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 9 MS. STARR: SO I HAVE THAT DOCUMENT IN THE 10 PACKET THAT I PUT OUT FOR YOU. SO THAT DOCUMENT IS 11 SPREADSHEET A. THAT'S A REVIEW OF ALL THE ADMINISTRATORS 12 THAT HAVE BEEN EVALUATED DURING THE YEAR 2007-2008, 13 2008-2009, 2009-2010. AND WE HAVE AN AVERAGE OF THE 14 OVERALL RATING AND THEN A TOTAL AT THE END. THAT'S THE 15 SPREADSHEET A. 16 THE NEXT DOCUMENT I HAVE IS THE ACTUAL 17 ADMINISTRATIVE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION DOCUMENT. 18 AND THEN THE THIRD DOCUMENT OF THE ACTUAL 19 PROCEDURES THAT ARE USED TO CONDUCT THE ADMINISTRATOR 20 EVALUATION. 21 AND THEN THE LAST DOCUMENT, THERE WERE SOME 22 QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN -- EVERY ADMINISTRATOR GETS EVALUATED 23 EVERY YEAR, EXCEPT THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATORS AND THE 24 GRANT ADMINISTRATORS. THESE NUMBERS DON'T CORRESPOND TO 25 THE PEOPLE ON THE SECOND SHEET. SO THEY ARE NOT AUGUST 26, 2010 86 1 CONNECTED. YOU WON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. 2 I JUST WANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW IN CASE THEY TRY 3 TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE 5 ABLE TO. 6 MS. STARR: EXACTLY. 7 SO YOU WILL SEE ON SPREADSHEET B, IF THE 8 ADMINISTRATOR HAS TWO YEARS OR IF THEY HAVE THREE YEARS 9 DEPENDING ON THE EVALUATION. EVERY ADMINISTRATOR WILL GET 10 EVALUATED EVERY YEAR. AND IF THE EVALUATION IS 11 SUCCESSFUL, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THE BOARD APPROVAL THAT 12 A YEAR IS ADDED TO THEIR -- THEY ARE REALLY NOT CONTRACTS, 13 BUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: ASSIGNMENTS. 15 MS. STARR: ASSIGNMENTS, OKAY. 16 SO THAT'S THE LAST PART OF THE DOCUMENT. 17 AND THEN I DESCRIBE IN THE MEMO HOW THE 18 ADMINISTRATOR SUBMITS OBJECTIVES. AND THERE'S AN AVERAGE 19 FOR THOSE OBJECTIVES. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE NINE 20 ADMINISTRATIVE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ADDED UP. SO FOR EACH 21 ONE OF THOSE, YOU DIVIDE BY TWO AND GET AN AVERAGE, AN 22 OVERALL AVERAGE, MANAGEMENT OBJECTIVES. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON, TRUSTEE NGO, 24 TRUSTEE RIZZO. IT LOOKED LIKE EVERYONE WAS ABOUT TO SAY 25 SOMETHING. AUGUST 26, 2010 87 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I AM LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS 2 WHERE 5 MEANS OUTSTANDING. 4 MEANS ABOVE AVERAGE. AND I 3 JUST CAN'T HELP BUT JUXTAPOSE THOSE TWO CHANCELLOR'S AND 4 TO THE FACULTY AND TO STAFFS. AND I CAN'T EVEN SEE A 3 ON 5 HERE OR A 3.9. EVERYTHING IS 5, 4.5, 4.6. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: 4.0 IS THE LOWEST ON PAGE 2. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND YOU KNOW, IT'S PUBLIC 8 KNOWLEDGE WITHIN OUR -- I MEAN WE'VE HAD AN ADMINISTRATOR 9 THAT HAD TO GO. I MEAN THAT'S IN THE CHRONICLE, SO I'M 10 NOT EVEN GOING TO PRETEND THAT'S PRIVATE KNOWLEDGE AT THIS 11 POINT. THAT RESIGNED. 12 AND I'M ASSUMING THAT ADMINISTRATOR IS REFLECTED 13 IN THIS, SO I MEAN I DON'T DOUBT THAT THIS SCORING -- I 14 DON'T DOUBT THE SCORING, BUT I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM. I 15 KNOW THAT THIS CHANCELLOR WORKS EXTREMELY HARD. I MEAN 16 REALLY HARD. YOU KNOW 16 HOURS A DAY HARD. AND HE'S 17 DOING JOBS THAT OTHER FOLKS PROBABLY SHOULD BE DOING. 18 AND FOR SOME REASON -- AND I LOOK AT FACULTY WHO 19 ARE TAKING 30, 40, 50 PEOPLE PER CLASS. AND THEY ARE 20 GOING ABOVE. AND I'M LOOKING AT CLASSIFIEDS WHO HAVE AN 21 INCREASED WORKLOAD, MORE AND MORE WORKLOAD, AND I'M 22 LOOKING AT THEIR SCORES AND FOR SOME REASON THE 23 ADMINISTRATORS ARE JUST LIKE DEMIGODS COMPARATIVELY TO 24 OTHER SECTIONS IN THIS INSTITUTION. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW 25 TO TAKE THIS SCORING AND HOW IS IT -- IS IT REALLY AN AUGUST 26, 2010 88 1 ACCURATE REFLECTION OF THE JOB PERFORMANCE OF 2 ADMINISTRATORS OVERALL. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE THIS. 3 SO I AM HAVING REAL ISSUES WITH THIS SCORING 4 RIGHT NOW. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT FOLKS DON'T DO A GREAT 5 JOB. EVERYONE WITHIN OUR FAMILY DOES A VERY GOOD JOB IN 6 TERMS OF OUR STUDENTS. I JUST HAVE ISSUES SAYING THAT THE 7 LOWEST SCORE IN THE ENTIRE THING IS A 4.2. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: 4.0. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: 4.0, NO ONE DOES EVEN AVERAGE 10 WORK IN THIS COLLEGE. YOU ARE TELLING ME OUT OF EVERY 11 ADMINISTRATOR WE HAVE OUT OF ALL 45 ADMINISTRATORS, NO ONE 12 HAS A PART WHERE THEY DID SOMETHING AVERAGE. THAT WE 13 DON'T HAVE AVERAGE. EVERY ADMINISTRATOR IS ABOVE AVERAGE 14 AND EXCELLENT. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALISTIC. 15 SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I AM STRUGGLING WITH 16 THIS SCORING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE FACULTY, CLASSIFIEDS AND 17 THE CHANCELLOR HAVE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT SCORINGS. 18 MS. STARR: OVERALL, I WOULD SAY FROM WHAT I CAN 19 SEE, ADMINISTRATORS, FACULTY, AND CLASSIFIED HAVE PRETTY 20 HIGH SCORES. I WOULD SAY OVERALL. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M DONE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: I KNOW YOU MADE YOUR POINT. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I APPRECIATE THIS REPORT. 24 ORALLY AND ALSO THE MEMO. THIS CLEARLY RAISES ISSUES 25 ABOUT WHAT POLICIES GOVERN ADMINISTRATORS. AND WE HAVE AUGUST 26, 2010 89 1 HAD A RAGTAG POOL OF SOURCES THAT WE USE, AUTHORITY. 2 THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE HANDBOOK. I DON'T KNOW WHERE 3 THIS EVALUATION FORM CAME IN IF IT'S THE ADVISORY 4 COMMITTEE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS CREATED BY A 5 RESOLUTION OR INTERNALLY, WHETHER OR NOT THE EVALUATION'S 6 EVEN ADD UP OR TIED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN, ANNUAL PLANS. 7 IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. 8 MS. STARR: WELL, THE CHANCELLOR, IN THE 9 DOCUMENT I GAVE YOU LAST MONTH, SAYS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO 10 SEE THE ADMINISTRATIVE GOALS MORE TIED TO THE CHANCELLOR'S 11 GOAL. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. I'M JUST SAYING THAT 13 LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL EVALUATION ITSELF, THERE'S NO TIE 14 QUITE OBVIOUSLY OF ANY CATEGORY IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT 15 GOES THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE BY THE WAY QUITE THROUGHLY 16 IS NOT EVEN TIED TO THE ACTUAL EVALUATION. SO WE ARE 17 MEASURING OUR ADMINISTRATORS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 18 PRESIDENT MARKS HAS BEEN HARPING ON FOR A WHILE AND 19 RIGHTLY SO IS THAT THERE IS NO MEASURE THAT WE APPLY IN 20 THE CONSISTENT AND REASONABLE WAY WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, 21 THAT DOCUMENT, THAT GOVERNING DOCUMENT, I KNOW I AM 22 TALKING TO YOU AND IT DOESN'T REALLY CONCERN YOU. 23 MS. STARR: I'M NOT EVEN ON THE COMMITTEE THAT 24 DEALT WITH THIS. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M ONLY TALKING TO YOU BECAUSE AUGUST 26, 2010 90 1 YOU ARE THERE. 2 MS. STARR: OKAY. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: THERE IS NO REASONABLE CONNECTION. 4 AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE ISSUES THAT COME UP AND YOU LOOK AT 5 THIS DOCUMENT, AND YOU SAY WELL -- TO ME, ALL THOSE 6 APPOINTMENTS THAT THE BOARD WROTE VOTES ON AT THIS POINT 7 IS MEANINGLESS. IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME AT THIS 8 POINT LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT HOW TO 9 ACTUALLY EVALUATE IT. 10 SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I APPRECIATE THIS 11 INFORMATION. IT'S A LONGTIME COMING. I PROMISE YOU AND 12 THE CHANCELLOR, AND I TOLD HIM THIS ALREADY. THAT WE WILL 13 DEVELOP POLICIES THAT GOVERN HOW ADMINISTRATORS FUNCTION 14 AND HOW THEY ARE EVALUATED AND APPOINTED AT THIS COLLEGE. 15 IT WILL HAPPEN. IT WILL BE INTRODUCED SOME TIME BY THE 16 END OF THE YEAR. 17 MS. STARR: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AND IT WILL GO THROUGH THE PROPER 19 CHANNELS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO GET MOVEMENT ON THIS. AND I 20 THINK IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT WE DO. 21 MS. STARR: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WANT TO THANK TRUSTEE 25 MARKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. AUGUST 26, 2010 91 1 I THINK I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT OUR -- THE 2 AVERAGE SCORE FOR ADMINISTRATORS HERE IS HIGH. I'M REALLY 3 NOT SURPRISED AT THAT. I AM SURPRISED THAT THERE IS NOT A 4 SINGLE MODERATE NUMBER. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THERE'S 5 NOT ONE ADMINISTRATOR THAT GOT A SATISFACTORY OR POOR 6 REVIEW. THERE'S NOT ONE ADMINISTRATOR HERE THAT IS NOT 7 EXCEPTIONAL. 8 I THINK THAT SHOWS THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH 9 THE EVALUATION PROCESS. AND THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON HOW 10 WE EVALUATE THINGS BECAUSE THIS IS JUST NOT INFORMATIVE IF 11 EVERYONE, 100 PERCENT GET 4.5'S AND 5.0'S, THAT'S NOT A 12 VERY USEFUL TOOL IN SHOWING HOW PERFORMANCES ARE HAPPENING 13 HERE. 14 SO I THINK THAT THE TOOL, THE METHOD IN WHICH WE 15 EVALUATE NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, AND IT NEEDS TO BE 16 REVISED. I THINK THAT TRUSTEE MARKS HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE 17 LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT 18 I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 20 I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE SAY IS THAT IT'S NOT -- THE 21 EVALUATIONS ARE TO ASSESS PEOPLE'S PERFORMANCE AND TO MAKE 22 CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN ORDER 23 TO MEET THE GOALS FOR THEIR PARTICULAR JOB AND ALSO FOR 24 THE INSTITUTION AS A WHOLE. BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT HELPING 25 PEOPLE TO SUCCEED AND GUIDING PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED AUGUST 26, 2010 92 1 GUIDANCE AND GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES TO 2 IMPROVE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. 3 SO MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL WITH 4 WHAT LIMITED INFORMATION WE HAVE WHICH IS JUST THE SCORES. 5 MY CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT -- THE EVALUATEES ARE 6 NOT BENEFITTING FROM THE PROCESS AS MUCH AS THEY PROBABLY 7 COULD. THAT'S A GUESS. BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT THAT'S 8 WHAT'S HAPPENING. THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS HAPPENING. AND 9 I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO ADMINISTRATORS TO DO THE PROCESS 10 RIGHT. 11 I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. 12 I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW WE THEN -- THIS IS A DISCUSSION 13 ITEM. HOW DO WE GIVE FEEDBACK TO THE CHANCELLOR AND ASK 14 FOR THE CHANCELLOR TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD ON HIS REVIEW OF 15 THE PROCESS. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I SAW THE CHANCELLOR'S 17 EVALUATION AND ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIOUS QUESTIONS AND 18 VARIOUS SECTIONS WHERE YOU EQUATE HIS EFFECTIVENESS AND 19 MAYBE THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT. I HAVE TO 20 SAY THAT I REALLY CONCUR WITH WHAT TRUSTEE NGO'S POINTS 21 WHERE THAT WE REALLY NEED POLICY THAT'S GUIDED BY OUR 22 DOCUMENTS THAT WE APPROVE OF AND SET IN STONE HOW TO 23 MEASURE. WE NEED A RULER TO MEASURE THIS STUFF. 24 I MEAN I JUST HAVE TO SAY I MEAN I THINK WE KNOW 25 AVERAGE PEOPLE. EVERYONE IS AVERAGE. I JUST DON'T SEE A AUGUST 26, 2010 93 1 3 AROUND HERE. I MEAN IF I DON'T SEE A 3, I MEAN SOMEONE 2 IS A 3 IN THIS INSTITUTION. IT'S NOT BAD TO BE 3. 3 IS 3 AVERAGE. THAT'S OKAY. BUT THERE HAS TO BE 3 SOMEWHERE IN 4 THIS INSTITUTION. AND I DON'T SEE EVEN NEAR A 3 AND 5 THAT'S MY PROBLEM. 6 BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I CONCUR WITH TRUSTEE NGO, 7 AND I DO CONCUR WITH TRUSTEE MARKS. I THINK MAYBE THE 8 CHANCELLOR'S EVALUATION PROCESS WOULD BE A START IN TERMS 9 OF WHAT WE DO HAVE. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING 11 AND THEN CHANCELLOR IF YOU DID. 12 I THINK THAT WHAT WE SHOULD DO, OR WHAT I WOULD 13 LIKE TO DO, IS TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND BRING IT TO 14 THE INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS COMMITTEE. BUT WHAT I 15 WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HAPPEN IF POSSIBLE WOULD BE FOR THE 16 ADMINISTRATOR'S EVALUATION OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAVE SOME 17 REPRESENTATIVES THERE SO WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION 18 ABOUT THAT. AND WE CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE 19 REPRESENTING THE ADMINISTRATOR'S ASSOCIATION AS WELL, SO 20 WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION. 21 CHANCELLOR. 22 MS. STARR: OKAY. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: CHANCELLOR. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. SO PART OF THE 25 PROBLEM THAT I SEE IS THIS IS A LIKERT SCALE. AND IT GOES AUGUST 26, 2010 94 1 FROM 1 TO 5. AND WHEN YOU GET TO 4, IT SAYS, "ABOVE 2 AVERAGE." AND WHEN YOU GO TO 5, IT SAYS, "EXCELLENT." SO 3 THEREFORE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A LIKERT SCALE LIKE 4 THIS, IT SHOULD NOT BE A 1 THROUGH 5. IT SHOULD BE A 1 5 THROUGH 7 BECAUSE ALL THE ADMINISTRATORS TYPICALLY ARE 6 ABOVE AVERAGE AND ABOVE. 7 IF YOU LOOK, 4 IS ABOVE AVERAGE. THAT'S WHAT IT 8 SAYS. IF YOU LOOK ON THIS SCALE, IT SAYS, "4 IS ABOVE 9 AVERAGE." SO TYPICALLY, ADMINISTRATORS ARE ABOVE AVERAGE. 10 THESE SCORES THAT ARE ON HERE ARE COMPOSITE SCORES, SO 11 THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT RECOGNIZING IS THAT 12 THE ACTUAL OBJECTIVES THAT THE ADMINISTRATORS HAVE ARE NOT 13 ON HERE BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO LIST THE OBJECTIVES FOR 14 EVERY ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE THEY DO DIFFER. SO THE 15 OBJECTIVES ARE NOT ON THERE. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU HAVE THE 16 MANAGEMENT DIMENSIONS WHICH ARE ON THERE. 17 50 PERCENT OF THE EVALUATION IS ON THAT 18 MANAGEMENT DIMENSION. AND 50 PERCENT IS ON THE OBJECTIVES 19 THAT ARE NOT BUILT IN THERE. EACH OF THOSE OBJECTIVES ARE 20 SCORED BY EACH TYPE OF EVALUATOR AS YOU KNOW. FACULTY, 21 CLASSIFIED, OTHER ADMINISTRATORS, PUBLIC, AND SO FORTH. 22 SO I THINK THERE IS A DEFECT. 23 NO. 1, I THINK THERE IS A DEFECT IN TERMS OF 24 HAVING A LIKERT SCALE THAT ONLY GOES TO 5. BECAUSE IF IT 25 WERE TO GO TO 7, YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SAY AUGUST 26, 2010 95 1 "ABOVE AVERAGE." AND YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS, 2 "GOOD." AND YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE 3 "EXCELLENT." SO YOU REALLY JUST SLICE OUT THAT 4 POSSIBILITY. 5 I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS A GOOD EVALUATION 6 SYSTEM. I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE OLD EVALUATION SYSTEM 7 THAT WE USED A DECADE AGO WAS ACTUALLY A BETTER SYSTEM 8 BECAUSE IT ALLOWED FOR A LOT MORE INPUT FOR PEOPLE WHO 9 WERE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS. THERE WERE 10 VISITS TO THE ACTUAL ADMINISTRATOR'S JOB SITE WHERE THERE 11 WERE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED. I THINK THAT WE'VE ALSO 12 GONE UP OFF TARGET IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE ANNUAL PLAN, 13 THE CHANCELLOR'S OBJECTIVES, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND WE 14 HAVEN'T USED THOSE AS A MEANS OF EVALUATING THE 15 ADMINISTRATORS. 16 SO I THINK WE ARE MOVING BACK TO THAT DIRECTION. 17 AND SO WE WELCOME, OF COURSE, GOING INTO COMMITTEE AND 18 LOOKING AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE EVALUATION. 19 BUT I THINK IN THE END, THE REALITY IS THAT YOU 20 ARE GOING TO FIND THAT THE ADMINISTRATORS TEND MORE TOWARD 21 EXCELLENCE THEN TOWARD AVERAGE. AND THAT'S JUST BEEN THE 22 NATURE OF THE SEVERITY OF INITIATION INTO ADMINISTRATION 23 AND THE WAY IT'S DONE. 24 FIRST OF ALL, MOST ADMINISTRATORS WHO COME INTO 25 ADMINISTRATION HAVE GONE THROUGH A LONG PERIOD OF EITHER AUGUST 26, 2010 96 1 BEING FACULTY OR HIGH LEVELED CLASSIFIED. MANY OF THEM 2 HAVE HAD 10, 12, 15 YEARS OF VERY, VERY INTENSE DIRECT 3 EXPERIENCE AND THEN WE GO THROUGH A VERY SEVERE SCREENING 4 PROCESS WITH THEM. AND THEN WHEN WE GET THEM, THEN WE GET 5 THESE KINDS OF SCORES. 6 AS THE DIRECTOR OR THE DEAN OF HR HAS STATED, IF 7 YOU REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT THESE SCORES FOR 8 ADMINISTRATORS, YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THEM IN 9 ISOLATION. YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THEM IN COMPARISON TO THE 10 TYPICAL SCORES THAT ARE ACHIEVED BY FACULTY. THE TYPICAL 11 SCORES THAT ARE ACHIEVED BY CLASSIFIED. BOTH GROUPS WHO 12 ALSO GO THROUGH A VERY SEVERE INITIATION INTO BECOMING 13 FACULTY WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL KINDS OF 14 SCREENINGS AND ACTUALLY PERFECT THEMSELVES TO A HIGHER 15 LEVEL. 16 SO THE COLLEGE IS VERY, VERY DEMANDING IN TERMS 17 OF HOW IT SELECTS PEOPLE, HOW IT ALLOWS THEM TO BECOME 18 ADMINISTRATORS, FACULTY, AND CLASSIFIED, AND THAT'S OFTEN 19 REFLECTED IN THE HIGH SCORES THAT ARE GIVEN. 20 BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK WE ALL WELCOME AN 21 OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SCALE THAT HAS 22 VALIDITY, THAT IS RELIABLE, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE 23 CAN ALL WANT TO AND SAY THIS IS VERY MEANINGFUL TO THE 24 DEVELOPMENT OF THE COLLEGE AND TO THE DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL 25 OF US. AUGUST 26, 2010 97 1 WE STAND 100 PERCENT BEHIND OUR ADMINISTRATORS. 2 WE BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. THERE IS 3 ONLY 41 OF THEM LEFT. THERE WAS 57 LAST YEAR. THERE'S 41 4 OF THEM NOW. LET'S NOT DISCOURAGE OUR ADMINISTRATORS TOO 5 MUCH BECAUSE OF THE 41 THAT'S TRYING TO STAND UP AND DO 6 WHAT 57 DID LAST YEAR, THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE 7 CAN BE SUPER CRITICAL IN A DAY. WE NEED TO BE REALLY 8 THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THIS. 9 AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE ON RECORD AS SAYING I 10 THINK THESE ADMINISTRATORS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. WE JUST 11 WANT AN INSTRUMENT THAT WILL PICK UP THAT GREATNESS AND IF 12 THIS INSTRUMENT IS NOT DOING IT, IF THIS PROCESS IS NOT 13 DOING IT, LET'S HAVE A PROCESS THAT DOES. THANK YOU. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 15 TRUSTEE BERG, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: I THINK THAT I'M LITTLE CONCERNED 17 ABOUT THE BOARD'S INTERVENTION IN ADMINISTRATIVE 18 EVALUATION OR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSESSMENT BECAUSE IT'S 19 REALLY NOT THE BOARD'S PURVIEW TO DO THAT. IT IS THE 20 CHANCELLOR'S PURVIEW. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CHANCELLOR 21 KNOWS MORE THAN ALL OF US PUT TOGETHER. AND SO I'M 22 CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN WE DECIDE TO LOOK 23 AT ADMINISTRATIVE EVALUATIONS AND HAVE THESE SPREADSHEETS. 24 I THINK IT CERTAINLY IS THE JOB OF THE BOARD TO 25 MAKE SURE THAT WE GET MAYBE A FINAL ANALYSIS FROM THE AUGUST 26, 2010 98 1 CHANCELLOR. BUT FRANKLY, THIS IS HIS JOB. THIS IS WHAT 2 HE IS HIRED TO DO. AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY FROM YOUR 3 ASSESSMENT WHAT YOU DO DO. YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT. YOU DO 4 IT WELL. 5 I THINK THIS SPREADSHEET SHOWS THAT OUR 6 ADMINISTRATION DOES WELL. AND THEY ARE WORKING HARD 7 BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THE JOBS OF TWO PEOPLE. 8 AND I THINK THAT I JUST HAVE TO WEIGH IN AND SAY 9 THIS IS NOT THE JOB OF THE BOARD. THAT BECOMES 10 MICROMANAGEMENT AT THIS LEVEL. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: JUST SO THAT -- WE PASSED A 12 RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CHANCELLOR TO DO THIS. THIS IS 13 NOT SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME UP AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. 14 WHEN DID WE PASS IT? 15 MS. STARR: FEBRUARY. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: MY FEELING IS AT THE TIME THAT 17 THAT RESOLUTION WAS THE TIME TO QUESTION THIS. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T 21 THINK IT IS MICROMANAGING AT ALL. THERE ARE INSTANCES 22 OBVIOUSLY THAT WE HAVE COME ACROSS ISSUES THAT ARE NOT 23 ADDRESSED SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE BOARD 24 INVOLVEMENT. 25 THE PROBLEM IS THAT, YOU KNOW -- LOOK IF THE AUGUST 26, 2010 99 1 BOARD SHOULD HAVE NO ROLE IN THIS, WE SHOULDN'T BE VOTING 2 ON ANY ADMINISTRATOR APPOINTMENTS AT ALL, PERIOD. LET'S 3 HAVE DON CHOOSE ANYBODY HE WANTS TO AND JUST BYPASS US, 4 RIGHT? 5 THAT WOULD BE IDEAL, BUT STATE LAW DOES NOT 6 ALLOW THAT. SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. STRUCTURALLY 7 WE SHOULD DO IT IN SOME OTHER WAY. 8 BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT 9 YOU HAVE 40 SOMETHING ADMINISTRATORS. THEY ARE NOT FULLY 10 PROMOTED. OKAY? 11 SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY COULD STILL BE PROMOTED 12 TO A HIGHER POSITION, VICE CHANCELLOR OR WHATEVER. 13 MS. STARR: RIGHT. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: THE PROBLEM IS THIS. THE PROBLEM 15 IS IF EVERYONE GETS SIMILAR SCORES ACROSS THE BOARD, 4, 16 4.5, 5'S ARE ALL SIMILARLY QUALIFIED AND YOU DON'T CHOOSE 17 ONE AND YOU CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE, THEN YOU HAVE TO JUSTIFY 18 WHY YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE THAT ADMINISTRATOR OVER THIS ONE. 19 AND BY THE WAY, WHAT IF THIS PERSON BELONGS TO 20 PROTECTED GROUP UNDER TITLE VII OR FEA. SO THERE IS AN 21 EXPOSURE HERE THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF WHICH IS 22 YOU CAN'T PUT ALL ADMINISTRATORS -- THERE HAS TO BE SOME 23 REAL EVALUATION. OTHERWISE, YOU RUN INTO SOME PROBLEMS 24 DOWN THE ROAD IF PEOPLE GET PASSED UP FOR PROMOTIONS. 25 THIS IS NOT THE FINAL STOP FOR THESE FOLKS. AUGUST 26, 2010 100 1 THEY ARE GOING TO COME UP. AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU 2 REALLY HAVE TO EVALUATE PEOPLE. AND IF EVERYONE IS 3 GETTING 4.5, 5.0'S, YOU'VE GOT SOME PROBLEMS AT SOME 4 POINT. AND THAT'S PART OF OUR ROLE IS TO SPOT THAT. IF 5 WE DON'T SPOT IT NOW, WE ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH IT 6 LATER. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S THE SMART THING FOR US 7 TO DO. 8 I AGREE WITH THE CHANCELLOR. HE'S RIGHT. WE 9 ARE GOING TO WORK ON A VERY SENSIBLE WAY TO EVALUATE THIS 10 WITHOUT STEPPING INTO HIS SHOES, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A 11 ROLE IN THIS. OKAY? 12 AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD ADD MY SUPPORT TO THE 13 CHANCELLOR'S WORK AND ALSO PRESIDENT MARKS' SOLUTION ON 14 THIS. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 16 MS. STARR: OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT 18 ANYBODY WANTED TO SAY AT THIS POINT? 19 IF NOT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON 20 THIS. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANTED TO -- 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M SORRY. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- SAY BEFORE EVEN THOUGH WE 24 HAVE CRITICISM, IT'S CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. AND THAT I 25 REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY DONE ON AUGUST 26, 2010 101 1 THIS BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE SO ACTUALLY 2 GETTING THE DOCUMENT AND DOING THIS WORK IS ACTUALLY 3 REALLY IMPORTANT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT. 4 AND I DON'T WANT MY COMMENTS -- I'M SURE NO ONE 5 ELSE HERE WANTS IT JUST TO BE CRITICISM FOR CRITICISM'S 6 SAKE. ALL MY COMMENTS ARE MEANT JUST TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE 7 CRITICISM AND TO GUIDE A PROCESS SO WE CAN ALL BE 8 EVALUATED. THE TRUSTEES ARE EVALUATED. AND SO I KNOW 9 WHAT THINGS PEOPLE WOULD LIKE US TO WORK ON. SO THAT'S 10 WHERE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMENTS ARE 11 CONSTRUCTIVE IN TERMS OF THIS PROCESS. AND I LOOK FORWARD 12 TO CONTINUING TO WORK ON HAVING THIS PROCESS. 13 MS. STARR: OKAY. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 15 MS. STARR: THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE WONG. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: WE'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS OF THE 18 TRUSTEES AND THE EXPERIENCED COMMENTS OF THE CHANCELLOR. 19 AND WE ARE GOING TO, OF COURSE, TAKE THAT TO HEART. BUT 20 AS A LONG TIME MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, 4.5 TO ME IS NOT A 21 SURPRISE. AND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF 4.5'S TO 22 ME, IF YOU KNOW THESE ADMINISTRATORS AND THE WORK THEY DO, 23 IS WELL WITHIN REASON. AND I DON'T TAKE ANY ISSUE AT ALL 24 WITH THE 4.5'S. AS A MATTER OF FACT, TO ME IT REFLECTS 25 THE REALITY OF THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY ALL DO. AUGUST 26, 2010 102 1 TO SUGGEST THAT BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE 2 ADMINISTRATORS HAVE RECEIVED 4.5'S INDICATES THAT PERHAPS 3 THE SYSTEM OR THE EVALUATIVE INSTRUMENT IS NOT QUITE RIGHT 4 PERHAPS IS NOT A PROPER PREMISE. 5 I UNDERSTAND ALSO HOW WHERE AT ONE POINT IN TIME 6 WHERE WE DID HAVE ON SITE VISITS THAT THAT CAN BE VERY 7 HELPFUL AND INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING A PERHAPS MORE 8 COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATIVE INSTRUMENT. BUT I DON'T WANT 9 ADMINISTRATORS TO FEEL THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE GETTING 4.5, 10 THAT SOMEHOW IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE WORK THEY DOING. 11 IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, 12 AND YOU ARE DOING TWO OR THREE JOBS AT ONE TIME NOW. 13 NOW WITH WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING WITH SO MANY OF 14 OUR LONG-TIME ADMINISTRATORS THAT HAVE RETIRED. SO 4.5 TO 15 ME, IS TRULY REFLECTIVE OF THE GOOD WORK THAT OUR 16 ADMINISTRATORS HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO. I DON'T HAVE 17 ANY ISSUES OR PROBLEMS WITH THAT. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK 19 YOU. 20 MS. STARR: SO WE'VE ADDRESSED YOUR RESOLUTION 21 IN FEBRUARY. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTED TO HEAR. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WANTED TO JUST ADD SOMETHING 25 AT THIS POINT INTO OUR MEETING. WE HAVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER AUGUST 26, 2010 103 1 FIONA MA HERE WHO WANTED TO TALK TO US FOR A FEW MINUTES. 2 SHE'S BEEN WAITING FOR ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR SINCE THIS 3 CONVERSATION HAS BEEN GOING ON. 4 WELCOME. 5 ASSEMBLY MEMBER MA: THANK YOU. 6 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO COME AND 7 SAY, "HI" TO EVERYONE. I KNOW ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU FOR 8 ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU ARE DOING. I CAME DOWN FOR THE 9 MEETING AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO BACK UP TO SACRAMENTO. 10 WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE WEEK AND, HOPEFULLY, WE WILL BE 11 DOING SOME OF THE TOUGH WORK AS WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE ARE 12 TALKING ABOUT. 13 BUT I DO WANT TO COME TODAY TO PRESENT A COUPLE 14 OF CERTIFICATES TO JOHN RIZZO AND STEVE NGO. THEY CAME 15 OUT AND TALKED TO MY LEADERSHIP GROUP ON A SUNDAY. WE HAD 16 A TEN-WEEK LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE. WE HAD 25 HIGH 17 SCHOOLERS, MOSTLY JUNIORS FROM ALL DIFFERENT SCHOOLS GO 18 THROUGH A CIVICS EDUCATION CLASS. 19 AND THESE TWO CAME OUT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE 20 COMMUNITY COLLEGE AS WELL AS BEING A PUBLIC OFFICIAL. AND 21 GUILLERMO ROMERO ALSO CAME OUT TO TALK ABOUT FINANCIAL 22 AID. AND MANY OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO 23 THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND SO THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN 24 THAT. 25 BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE AUGUST 26, 2010 104 1 DOING TO EDUCATE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. WE HAD 75 INTERNS IN 2 OUR OFFICE THIS SUMMER. MANY, OF COURSE, WILL BE GOING TO 3 THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BUT WE LOVE INTERNS. SO ANYBODY 4 WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE AND HAS ANY TIME, WE ARE WILLING 5 TO TAKE THEM AND EDUCATE THEM AND, HOPEFULLY, SHOW THEM 6 HOW GREAT IT IS TO BE IN PUBLIC OFFICE. 7 SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND I JUST HAVE A 8 COUPLE OF CERTIFICATES HERE TO PRESENT. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: AND FIONA, PLEASE KEEP FIGHTING 12 FOR US, CITY COLLEGE, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, KEEP UP THE GOOD 13 WORK. 14 ASSEMBLY MEMBER MA: THANK YOU. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: HAVE YOU MET LESLIE SMITH? SHE'S 16 OUR GOVERNMENT RELATIONS PERSON? 17 ASSEMBLY MEMBER MA: YES. I SEE HER A LOT. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: BACK TO THE ROMAN NUMERAL VIII 19 IS A PRESENTATION ON LOCAL HIRES FOR THE CHINATOWN/NORTH 20 BEACH CAMPUS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: CHINESE FOR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, 22 I AM NOT PART OF THAT ORGANIZATION. I THINK WE HAD A 23 LITTLE BIT OF MISCOMMUNICATION. THEY WERE HERE MUCH 24 EARLIER TODAY TO WORK ON THEIR CONTRACT. THEY WEREN'T 25 AWARE THEY NEEDED TO BE HERE TONIGHT. AUGUST 26, 2010 105 1 THEY DID TELL ME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT LOCAL 2 HIRING ON THE CHINATOWN PROJECT CURRENTLY IS UP TO 3 21 PERCENT. AND THEY EXPECT THAT NUMBER TO GO TO 4 27 PERCENT WHEN CADRE OF WORKERS COMES ON BOARD WITH 5 WEBCOR. AND, OF COURSE, THEY WILL HAVE A NEW NUMBER FOR 6 YOU NEXT MONTH. AND I WILL MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS CLEAR, 7 AND THEY WILL BE HERE AT YOUR MEETING NEXT MONTH. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: JUST TO REPORT WE HAD 10 CHINESE FOR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AT THE LAST FACILITIES 11 COMMITTEE MEETING. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THEY GAVE A REPORT. 14 AND WE HAD ASKED SOME OF THE LOWER PERFORMING CONTRACTORS 15 TO COME IN AND EXPLAIN WHY THEY WERE LOW PERFORMING AND 16 JUST THE ACT OF INVITING THEM IN TO DO THAT MADE THEM -- 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: PERFORM BETTER. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: HYPED UP THEIR 19 PERFORMANCE. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANKS VERY MUCH. 21 ATTILA GABOR, PRESIDENT OF THE CLASSIFIED 22 SENATE. 23 MR. GABOR: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. 24 WE ALREADY HAD TWO MEETINGS, THE CLASSIFIED 25 SENATE AND THE PLANERY. AND OUR MEETING ACTUALLY AS A AUGUST 26, 2010 106 1 MATTER OF FACT WAS YESTERDAY. 2 IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO ACTUALLY SPEAK 3 FOR THE CLASSIFIED SENATE, I'M AFRAID THIS SEMESTER OR 4 NEXT SEMESTER THE SECOND YEAR TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE A FULL 5 SUPPORTIVE SYSTEM RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE WE CANNOT GET 6 QUORUMS AT THESE MEETINGS. 7 OUR STAFF IS SO OVERRUN. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE 8 THREE PEOPLE FROM THE ADMISSION RECORDS. THEY WERE UNABLE 9 TO ATTEND EITHER OF THE MEETINGS. AS I SAID, MANY OTHER 10 CLASSIFIED FROM OTHER AREAS HAD TO ALSO SEND ME E-MAILS. 11 I ACTUALLY INTENDED ORIGINALLY TO READ IN ADVANCE SO THAT 12 WOULD TAKE THEM FIVE MINUTES TO READ THEIR NAME IN THE 13 E-MAIL. BASICALLY THEIR OVERRUN. THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT 14 ATTEND THE MEETINGS. SO WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO MOSTLY 15 GIVE YOU AN ADVISORY MORE THAN A VOTE ON CLASSIFIED SENATE 16 BECAUSE I'M REALLY AFRAID THAT THE CURRENT STAFFING PEOPLE 17 JUST CAN'T SPARE EVEN THE TWO HOURS PER MONTH TO BE AWAY 18 FROM THEIR WORK. 19 AND I NEED TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT A REFLECTION ON 20 THE DISTRICT OR THIS BOARD BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING WONDERFUL 21 JOBS. YOU REALLY TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH AS 22 POSSIBLE. BUT REALITY STILL IS WITH THE CURRENT STAFFING 23 IT IS REALLY A HARDSHIP. PERHAPS SIMPLY EVERYONE IN THE 24 COLLEGE, SO THAT'S MY REPORT. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: BEFORE YOU GO, WHEN I MET WITH AUGUST 26, 2010 107 1 THE CLASSIFIED SENATE EARLIER THIS YEAR -- 2 MR. GABOR: YES. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT 4 YOU HAVE OUT THERE WAS A -- AND I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT 5 THAT WAY -- WAS AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART WITH CLASSIFIED 6 STAFF ASSIGNED TO WHERE THOSE CLASSIFIED STAFFERS WERE 7 ASSIGNED. NOW I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THAT WAS RESTRICTED TO 8 ADMINISTRATORS OR DEPARTMENT CHAIRS. 9 MR. GABOR: THAT SECTION WASN'T JUST CLASSIFIED 10 SENATE. THAT WAS SEIU AND CLASSIFIED SENATE BECAUSE 11 BASICALLY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE WORK CHARTS AS ONE 12 OF OUR SENATORS POINTED OUT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT 13 IN SOME OF THESE AREAS THERE ARE NO MORE CHIEFS THAN 14 ACTUALLY INDIANS TO QUOTE HER. 15 SO BASICALLY THEY JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT HOW OUR 16 CLASSIFIED ARE ALLOCATED, AND HOW IS IT RELATED TO THEIR 17 MISSION POSITION, AND REALLY JUST THE OVERALL STRUCTURE. 18 HOW DOES IT WORK? IF IT'S HARD TO MAKE A STATEMENT -- NOT 19 SINCE WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT WAS BASICALLY -- I KNOW THAT 20 THE SEIU HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THAT AND THEN ALSO THE 21 CLASSIFIED SENATE JOINED THAT. 22 IF WE ARE MISSING THAT WORK CHART AND YOU SEE 23 THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE 24 DEPARTMENT CHAIRS, YOU KNOW HOW MANY FACULTY ARE UNDER 25 THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SAME WHEN WE HAVE THIS AUGUST 26, 2010 108 1 WORKSHOP FOR (INAUDIBLE). 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: HAVE YOU NOT GOTTEN IT YET? 3 MR. GABOR: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE -- I 4 MEAN I DON'T KNOW. 5 ANGELA, DID THE SEIU (INAUDIBLE) THE WORKSHOP? 6 I KNOW THEY DID WITH MOSTLY ATHENA WHO WAS ASKING FOR 7 THIS. 8 MS. THOMAS: NOT THAT I KNOW OF. 9 MR. GABOR: NOTHING. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I THINK YOU MAY BE AWARE 12 OF, BOTH OF YOU, THAT THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM SEIU 13 THAT'S WORKING WITH CLARA STARR AND HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OF 14 THE CLASSIFIED POSITIONS IN THE DISTRICT AND LOOKED AT 15 WHERE WE CALL SO CALLED HOLES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED. 16 MR. GABOR: RIGHT. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO YOUR CHART IS RELATED TO 18 THAT CONCEPT NOW, WHETHER CLARA HAS PRODUCED AN OLD CHART, 19 BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SEIU IN 20 TERMS OF TRYING TO SMOOTH OUT THOSE HOLES. 21 MR. GABOR: RIGHT. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S A MAJOR INITIATIVE 23 THAT WE'VE HAD THIS YEAR. AND I THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN 24 SOME UPDATES GIVEN TO SEIU REGARDING THAT. 25 MR. GABOR: AND I WISH THAT ATHENA WOULD BE HERE AUGUST 26, 2010 109 1 BECAUSE IT WAS, AS I SAID, IT WAS AS TRUSTEE MARKS 2 REMEMBERED IT WAS NOT (INAUDIBLE). IT WAS SOME OTHER 3 CLASSIFIED SENATORS WHO ARE NOT HERE AND ALSO ATHENA WHO 4 REQUESTED THAT. SO I CAN'T ADDRESS IT REALLY FURTHER 5 BECAUSE THAT'S ALL I KNOW AT THIS POINT WHAT I JUST 6 STATED. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND THE OTHER THING THAT I 8 REALLY APPRECIATE YOU'RE SAYING IS THE OVERALL CONDITION 9 THE DISTRICT IS IN RELATIVE TO ALL EMPLOYEES. 10 MR. GABOR: ABSOLUTELY. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A LOSS 12 OF MANY EMPLOYEES IN MANY AREAS OF THE COLLEGE AND THAT -- 13 AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AT EVERY BOARD MEETING WHEN I 14 GET A CHANCE -- IS THAT WE ARE IN A FINANCIAL CRISIS STILL 15 AND THE INDICATORS ARE NOT GREAT GOING FORWARD. 16 SO WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD. EVERYONE IS 17 WORKING EXTREMELY HARD I BELIEVE. YOU KNOW THERE MIGHT BE 18 ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN THE COLLEGE, BUT BASICALLY EVERYONE 19 IS WORKING EXTREMELY HARD TO GET TO OUR GOALS AND 20 OBJECTIVES. 21 WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND THE CLASSIFIED 22 SENATE AND THE SEIU 1021 AND ALL THE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE 23 WORKING THAT HARD SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 24 MR. GABOR: I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO 25 STRESS THAT THE DISTRICT AND THIS BOARD DOES THE MAXIMUM AUGUST 26, 2010 110 1 POSSIBLE. I THINK THEY ARE DOING WONDERS. I LIVE IN 2 CONTRA COSTA COUNTY. I ASSURE YOU THEY ARE NOT NEARLY AS 3 RESOURCEFUL AS WE ARE HERE, SO I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE. 4 BUT I ALSO, SINCE THIS IS TELEVISED, I WANT TO 5 SEND OUT THE MESSAGE TO OUR VIEWERS, ESPECIALLY IN VIEW OF 6 THE UPCOMING ELECTION AND SOME RESOLUTIONS LIKE 7 PROPOSITION B, SO THEY WOULD BE AWARE OF THE REALITIES. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 9 KAREN SAGINOR. 10 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC PRESIDENT. 11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 12 THIS SEMESTER STARTED OUT WITH GREAT INTENSITY 13 AND THE FACULTY HAS REALLY RESPONDED TO THAT INTENSITY. 14 THE COUNSELORS HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD. THE LIBRARIES ARE 15 VERY BUSY. CLASSES ARE FULL. INSTRUCTORS ARE TAKING AS 16 MANY STUDENTS AS THEY CAN. 52 STUDENTS WHEN THEY ARE 17 REALLY SUPPOSED TO ONLY HAVE 35 IN A CLASS. 18 BUT EVEN SO, WE'VE HAD TO TURN A LOT OF STUDENTS 19 AWAY FROM CLASSES. IN SOME CASES, FROM A COUPLE OF 20 SECTIONS OF ALGEBRA ALMOST 200 STUDENTS WERE TURNED AWAY, 21 AND THAT'S TRUE THROUGHOUT ACTUALLY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT 22 OF FOCUS ON MATH AND ENGLISH AS WELL AS HIGH IMPACTED 23 CLASSES. 24 I'M SEEING AND HEARING ABOUT IMPACTED CLASSES 25 THROUGHOUT THE COLLEGE IN LIBRARY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, AUGUST 26, 2010 111 1 IN EVERY SUBJECT AREA STUDENTS HAVE UNFORTUNATELY BEEN 2 TURNED AWAY FROM CLASS. 3 THIS ACTUALLY HAS EXACERBATED A PROBLEM THAT 4 FACULTY COMMUNICATED TO ME EARLIER THAT THE PRESSURE TO 5 TRY TO GET IN A CLASS IS SO INTENSE THAT STUDENTS 6 SOMETIMES HAVE BEEN RESORTING TO TAKING THEIR REGISTRATION 7 TICKET AND PHOTOSHOPPING TO GIVE THEMSELVES AN EARLIER 8 REGISTRATION DATE TO PUT THEMSELVES HIGHER UP ON THE CUE 9 TO GET ADDED INTO A CLASS. 10 AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMUNICATION 11 ABOUT THIS AND FACULTY HAVE WRITTEN ME ABOUT IT. AND I 12 SENT SOMETHING OUT TO ALL THE FACULTY WITH SOME 13 SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO WORK WITH THIS WHICH I THINK HELPED. 14 I HAD A VERY GRATEFUL LETTER ACTUALLY FROM A 15 COUNSELOR WHO TOLD ME ABOUT A STUDENT WHO HAD BEEN IN HIS 16 OFFICE IN TEARS BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST ABOUT READY TO 17 TRANSFER AND THEN SHE CAN'T GET INTO HER REQUIRED CLASS 18 AND THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST GO AND 19 PHOTOSHOP YOUR REGISTRATION TICKET AND GIVE YOURSELF AN 20 EARLIER DATE. AND SHE HADN'T DONE THAT, SO SHE DIDN'T GET 21 IN. 22 BUT THE COUNSELOR WITH THE INFORMATION I HAD 23 SENT OUT ACTUALLY SAID HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTACT THE 24 INSTRUCTOR AND LET THE INSTRUCTOR KNOW, LOOK, THERE IS A 25 WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT. AUGUST 26, 2010 112 1 I HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS IS REALLY A TECHNOLOGY 2 PROBLEM. AND BY SAYING, "IT'S A TECHNOLOGY PROBLEM," I'M 3 REALLY SAYING IT'S A MONEY PROBLEM. IF ALL THE CLASSROOMS 4 WERE SMART AND THERE WAS A COMPUTER IN EVERY CLASSROOM, 5 THEN THE ADDING PROCESS COULD BE ONE WHERE IT WAS DONE 6 RIGHT THERE. AND THE INSTRUCTORS WOULDN'T BE DEPENDENT ON 7 LOOKING AT A PRINTOUT THAT SOMEBODY MADE AND HAVING TO 8 CHECK IT LATER. IN FACT A LOT OF THE INSTRUCTORS HAVE 9 BEEN CHECKING STUFF ON THEIR SMART PHONES AS WE GO ALONG. 10 BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT IN 11 ANY CASE. 12 ACADEMIC SENATE, WE HAD THE PLENARY SESSION. WE 13 HAD OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL. WE ARE 14 MAKING SOME CHANGES TOWARDS MORE OPENNESS. WE'VE ADDED A 15 PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE EXECUTIVE 16 COUNCIL MEETINGS. AND WE WILL BE DOING SOME MORE THINGS 17 IN THAT DIRECTION. 18 THE COMMITTEES AND SUBCOMMITTEES AND TASK FORCE 19 AND WORK GROUPS ARE ALL MEETING. I HAD A VERY EXCITING 20 MEETING TODAY WITH A COMMITTEE CHAIR WHO'S GOT GREAT IDEAS 21 FOR GETTING MORE HAPPENING THROUGH HER COMMITTEES. I WAS 22 VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH HER. I WAS VERY PLEASED ABOUT 23 THAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 24 I WOULD JUST MENTION THERE'S MANY ISSUES WE ARE 25 WORKING ON. TWO ISSUES, ONE IS STRATEGIC PLANNING. THE AUGUST 26, 2010 113 1 DRAFT OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES IS UP ONLINE. IT'S 2 GETTING DISTRIBUTED. IT'S GOING OUT. IT'S COMING TO YOU 3 OR PERHAPS HAS COME TO YOU. IT WILL COME TO YOU VERY 4 SOON. AND IT IS, AS I SAID, UP ONLINE. 5 PLEASE DO HELP US WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, LOOK AT 6 THIS. WE DON'T WANT THIS STRATEGIC PLAN TO BE SOMETHING 7 WHERE THE REST OF THE COLLEGE DOES IT AND THEN PRESENTS IT 8 TO YOU AT THE END. WE WANT YOUR -- WE WANT YOU TO BE 9 LOOKING AT IT NOW WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS AND GIVING US 10 YOUR INPUT. I PERSONALLY WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR 11 INPUT SO THAT AS WE LOOK AT IT IN THE SENATE, WE ARE 12 LOOKING AT THE KINDS OF PRIORITIES THAT YOU ALSO ARE 13 LOOKING AT. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHERE DO WE FIND IT? 15 WHERE DO WE GET IT? 16 MS. SAGINOR: I SHOULD HAVE THE WEBSITE ON ME. 17 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: I WILL GET IT TO YOU. 18 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY. GREAT. 19 BUT FOR THE LISTENING OR WATCHING PUBLIC, IF YOU 20 GO TO THE CITY COLLEGE WEB PAGE AND YOU JUST TYPE INTO THE 21 CITY COLLEGE SEARCH BOX, "STRATEGIC PLANNING 2010," I 22 THINK THAT IS WHAT WOULD BRING IT UP. IT'S ON THE 23 "RESEARCH AND PLANNING" PAGES. IT'S NOT TOO HARD TO FIND 24 ONLINE. 25 THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WE ARE GEARING UP FOR IS AUGUST 26, 2010 114 1 THE ACCREDITATION SELF-STUDY PROCESS. AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME 2 PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING. WE WILL BE PUTTING OUT STRONGER 3 CALLS FOR VOLUNTEERS. AND THAT'S ANOTHER PROCESS IN WHICH 4 TRUSTEES CAN VOLUNTEER. 5 ACTUALLY, PRESIDENT MARKS, I NOTICED YOUR NAME 6 AS HAVING SERVED ON ONE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES OF THE 7 SELF-STUDY WE DID SIX YEARS AGO, SO PLEASE WE WOULD BE 8 VERY -- 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: FOUR YEARS AGO. 10 MS. SAGINOR: WE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO WORK 11 WITH YOU ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEES FOR ACCREDITATION. THAT 12 WOULD BE GREAT. 13 I HAVE TO MENTION ONE THING. WHEN WE WERE 14 TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATORS WHO WERE DOING DOUBLE 15 DUTY, ALTHOUGH YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ADMINISTRATORS IN 16 GENERAL, CLARA STARR WAS STANDING WHERE I WAS STANDING 17 NOW. I HAVE TO THANK HER. HER DOUBLE DUTY THIS YEAR IS 18 THAT SHE IS ALSO SERVING AS THE DEAN FOR THE LIBRARY. AND 19 WE ARE GIVING HER A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE REALLY 20 APPRECIATE HER HELP. SHE'S JUST GREAT. 21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL BE COMING BACK TO 22 TALK TO YOU ABOUT P2 IN A LITTLE WHILE. AND NOW I WOULD 23 LIKE TO YIELD SOME TIME TO ALISA MESSER. 24 MS. MESSER: THANKS, PRESIDENT SAGINOR. 25 ALISA MESSER, AFT 2121. I REALLY WANTED TO TAKE AUGUST 26, 2010 115 1 A MINUTE TODAY TO THANK THE CHANCELLOR AND THE BOARD FOR 2 YOUR COMMITMENT AND YOUR LEADERSHIP IN TERMS OF WORKING TO 3 PRESERVE FACULTY JOBS. AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A 4 THANK YOU FOR THAT AND FOR WORKING WITH US TO BE SURE TO 5 PRESERVE FACULTY JOBS. 6 I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO OTHER LOCAL LEADERS 7 AROUND THE STATE. I'M LEARNING THAT THEY'VE LOST ONE, 8 TWO, MAYBE 300 MEMBERS. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY OUT 9 OF THEIR BARGAINING UNIT. AND THEY ARE NOT EVEN 10 NECESSARILY COUNTED AS LAYOFFS BECAUSE, OF COURSE, 11 PART-TIME FACULTY ARE TEMPORARY AND CAN BE LAID OFF 12 WITHOUT CALLING IT A LAY OFF. SO WE HAVE DONE AN 13 EXCEPTIONAL JOB AT PROTECTING JOBS HERE. AND I JUST WANT 14 TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN. 15 WE HAVE TWO MAJOR THINGS -- WELL, WE HAVE MANY 16 THINGS ON OUR MINDS RIGHT NOW. ONE IS OUR UPCOMING 17 RATIFICATION PROCESS. WE HAVE A RATIFICATION VOTE. AND 18 THAT'S THE WEEK AFTER LABOR DAY, SO THAT'S THE 7TH-10TH. 19 FACULTY WE WILL BE WE HOPE RATIFYING THE NEW CONTRACT AND 20 OUR EXECUTIVE BOARD DELEGATE ASSEMBLY HAVE APPROVED THAT, 21 AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. 22 SO THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK WE ARE VISITING 23 CAMPUSES AND HAVING IN DEPTH DISCUSSIONS WITH FACULTY 24 ABOUT THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND 25 THEN THAT VOTE WILL BE HAPPENING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. SO AUGUST 26, 2010 116 1 THAT'S COMING UP QUICKLY. 2 IN THE PROCESS WE HAVE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF 3 CONVERSATIONS WITH FACULTY ABOUT THE SACRIFICES THAT 4 THEY'VE MADE AND WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE. BUT WITH THE 5 TENTATIVE AGREEMENT AND WITH THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND 6 LOOKING FORWARD, WE HAVE A VERY CLEAR MESSAGE THAT FACULTY 7 THAT WE KNOW AND WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT EMPLOYEE 8 SACRIFICES, THE SACRIFICES FROM THE EMPLOYEE GROUPS AREN'T 9 GOING TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM ON 10 OUR HANDS. 11 SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING EVERYTHING WE 12 CAN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON 13 THE NOVEMBER ELECTION AND THEN MOVING FORWARD. AND THAT 14 MEANS THAT YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM US ABOUT BALLOT 15 MEASURES, AND WE WILL BE WORKING TO REALLY MOVE PEOPLE 16 FORWARD IN TERMS OF, HOPEFULLY, IMPACTING WHAT WILL BE 17 HAPPENING IN THE STATE AND WITH THE BUDGET. 18 AND YOU WILL ALSO BE HEARING FROM US AND WE HOPE 19 TO SPEAK TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT LOOKING FORWARD 20 NEXT YEAR TO A POSSIBLE PARCEL TAX IN 2011. WE THINK THAT 21 THE TIMING MAY BE RIGHT, AND WE HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT 22 CONVERSATION. AND WITH THE APPROPRIATE PLANNING AND 23 REALLY GETTING EVERYONE TOGETHER AND ON BOARD TO SEE THAT 24 MOVE FORWARD IN A WAY THAT MAY REALLY BE THE ANSWER TO 25 WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. AUGUST 26, 2010 117 1 I WANTED TO MENTION BOTH LOCALLY AND STATEWIDE 2 WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THE REVENUE MEASURES 3 THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. WE ARE REALLY LOOKING 4 AT PROPOSITIONS J AND N FOR REVENUE IN SAN FRANCISCO. AND 5 WE ARE VERY CONCERNED OF COURSE. AND ATTILA GABOR ALREADY 6 MENTIONED IT ABOUT MEASURE B, WHICH WOULD BE RAISING OUR 7 EMPLOYEES AND RAISING OUR FACULTY MEMBERS AND SEIU'S 8 HEALTH CARE ON DEPENDENTS DOUBLING THE COST OF HEALTHCARE 9 TO OUR DEPENDENTS. 10 AND ADDITIONALLY, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM ME 11 ABOUT PROPOSITION 25, WHICH WOULD CHANGE THE PICTURE IN 12 TERMS OF THE BUDGETING AT THE STATE LEVEL AND WOULD ALLOW 13 THE STATE BUDGET TO BE PASSED WITH A SIMPLE MAJORITY. SO 14 THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW AND THAT 15 ARE ON OUR MIND AND I THANK YOU. 16 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 18 TRUSTEE NGO. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: ACTUALLY THIS IS FOR KAREN, BUT 20 THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT. 21 I JUST HAD A QUESTION, ARE THE ACADEMIC SENATE 22 MEETINGS BROWN ACTED? 23 MS. SAGINOR: THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETINGS. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: DO YOU HAVE NOTICES? 25 MS. SAGINOR: THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE AUGUST 26, 2010 118 1 A BROWN ACT, YES. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THERE ARE MINUTES TO THOSE 3 MEETINGS? 4 MS. SAGINOR: YES, THE MINUTES ARE POSTED AFTER 5 THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED THOUGH. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE 7 BECAUSE COUNSEL HAS CONFIRMED THAT THEY ARE -- I DON'T 8 THINK IT'S JUST ACADEMIC SENATE, BUT ANY STANDING BODY 9 THAT'S ADVISING THE BOARD COULD BE SUBJECT TO THE BROWN 10 ACT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR WITH YOUR 11 BODY AT LEAST. 12 MS. SAGINOR: THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL AND THE 13 ACADEMIC SENATE IS DEFINITELY A BROWN ACT FOR US, YES. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. GREAT. 15 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 17 I DON'T KNOW WHO IS HERE FROM VARIOUS CAMPUSES 18 AND ASSOCIATED STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES. BUT THOSE OF YOU 19 WHO ARE HERE COULD COME UP TO THE LECTURN AND JUST 20 INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AS YOU SAY SOMETHING TO US. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT MARKS, IN THE 22 ORDER LISTED MANDI LAM IS PRESENT FROM DOWNTOWN AND SO IS 23 INGRID FROM SOUTHEAST AND ELIZABETH WEINBERG FROM OCEAN 24 CAMPUS. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. AUGUST 26, 2010 119 1 MS. LAM: HI, GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 2 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK 3 ON BEHALF OF MY CAMPUS. 4 I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BECOMING THE PRESIDENT 5 THIS SEMESTER AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANS AND A LOT OF 6 GOALS FOR OUR CAMPUS. WE ARE CURRENTLY -- WE WILL HAVE A 7 MEETING TOMORROW. AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE EVENTS LIKE 8 THE HAPPY HALLOWEEN PARTY AND THE HAPPY HOLIDAY PARTY. 9 I'M PROMOTING ABOUT THE GIANTS GAME. IT'S GOING 10 TO BE SUPER FUN I GUESS. IT'S A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE 11 FOR ME TO GO IN FRONT OF THE CLASSROOMS, THE DIFFERENT 12 CLASSROOMS AND PROMOTE THAT. SO FOR ME, IT'S HARD FOR ME 13 TO GO IN FRONT OF THE CLASSROOM, BUT I'VE OVERCOME MY 14 FEAR. 15 SO ANYWAY, IT'S A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO 16 HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 18 SO INGRID WYNN, DID YOU WANT TO -- 19 MS. WYNN: THANK YOU. SO LAST WE MET, I WAS 20 SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE CAPTAIN OF THE BAYVIEW 21 POLICE STATION. WE ACTUALLY HAVE. WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT 22 ARE COMING EVERY EVENING FROM 8:00 TO 9:00 O'CLOCK. WE 23 HAVE ALSO FOOT POLICE OFFICERS AS WELL. WE MET WITH THE 24 CHIEF, THE CAPTAIN, THE DEAN OF THE SCHOOL, DEAN SANTOS. 25 SO WE ACTUALLY RESOLVED -- ONE OF THE THINGS IS AUGUST 26, 2010 120 1 BEGINNING NEXT WEEK, THEY ARE GOING TO COME OUT TO 2 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS THREE DAYS A WEEK AND EXPLAIN THE 3 PROCEDURES BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED THE BUDDY 4 PROGRAM. IN THAT PROGRAM YOU DIAL 911 IF YOU SEE 5 SOMETHING IN PROGRESS, MEDICAL EMERGENCY, 911. THEY ALSO 6 HAVE A CAMPUS NUMBER FOR THE CAMPUS POLICE LISTED AS WELL. 7 AND FOR TEACHERS TO HELP PEOPLE TO LEARN TO GET 8 ALONG OR FIND A BUDDY IN THE EVENING. SO WHEN THEY ARE 9 LEAVING, AT LEAST THEY ARE GOING IN A GROUP. SO THAT'S 10 ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF. 11 ALSO, WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE RE-ELECTIONS 12 BEGINNING NEXT MONTH FOR THE POSITION OF A.S.C. I'M NOT 13 ACTUALLY GOING TO STEP DOWN, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS 14 THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND TAKEN CARE OF, SO IT'S 15 DECIDED THAT WE WILL HAVE RE-ELECTIONS. 16 ONE OF THE THINGS IS I'M HOPING TO ASK ALL MY 17 OTHER PARTNERS FROM ALL THE OTHER A.S.C. CAMPUSES TO JOIN 18 ME AND MAKE A SUCCESSFUL ELECTION. THAT'S ONE OF THE 19 THINGS THAT'S ON MY LIST FOR SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 20 EVANS CAMPUS, FORTUNATELY, I AM THE PRESIDENT 21 FOR THERE AS WELL. ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS, I WAS ALLOWED 22 TO BE PRESIDENT FOR BOTH EVANS AND SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. AND 23 I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT AT THE EVANS CAMPUS WE HAVE A 24 RESOURCE CENTER. WE HAVE RECEIVED A GRANT. AND RIGHT NOW 25 WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE SPACE TO ACTUALLY PUT A LIBRARY IN AUGUST 26, 2010 121 1 WITH COMPUTERS, SO IT WILL HELP THE STUDENTS THAT ARE 2 THERE NOW WITH THEIR RESOURCES. THE BOOKS FOR BOTH 3 INSTRUCTION AS WELL AS AUTOMOTIVE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE 4 THINGS WE HAVE. 5 WE HAD VIDEO TAPES FOR EVANS. WE HAD A LOT OF 6 RESOURCES, BUT WE HAD NO PLACE TO PUT THEM. SO WE HAVE A 7 RESOURCE CENTER. AND RIGHT NOW, WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR 8 SPACE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO WAS THERE. WE RECEIVED 10 SOME MONEY FROM SOLAR CITY. SOLAR CITY HAD DONATED SOLAR 11 PANELS. AND IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH OUR CLASSES THAT WE 12 HAVE THERE. THAT'S AMAZING. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS 13 WE HAD. 14 CHRIS JACKSON ALSO CAME OVER. SO THOSE ARE SOME 15 OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON AT THE EVANS CAMPUS. 16 WE ALSO HAVE A RESOURCE CENTER FOR AUTOMOTIVE. 17 SO THE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THAT DEPARTMENT, THEY CAN GO 18 OVER. THEY HELP WITH RESUMES, JOB RESUMES. THEY HELP 19 FIND YOU A JOB. IT'S UP TO YOU TO COMPLETE THE INTERVIEW 20 AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE LEADS, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY A 21 LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, SO THAT'S MY 22 REPORT. THANK YOU. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 24 ELIZABETH WEINBERG. 25 MS. WEINBERG: GOOD EVENING, CHANCELLOR, BOARD AUGUST 26, 2010 122 1 OF TRUSTEES, AND CCSF COMMUNITY. I'M ELIZABETH WEINBERG, 2 PRESIDENT OF THE OCEAN CAMPUS. 3 JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON WHAT WE HAVE 4 BEEN WORKING ON. WE RECENTLY HAD WELCOME WEEK. WE 5 WELCOMED ALL THE STUDENTS BACK. WE HAD OUR COUNCIL 6 MEMBERS OUT ON RAM PLAZA ANSWERING QUESTIONS. WE 7 ESTIMATED THAT WE SERVED OVER 600 STUDENTS ANSWERING BASIC 8 QUESTIONS TO MORE COMPLICATED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE TO GO, 9 WHAT TO DO, SCHEDULES, AND BUILDINGS, ALL KINDS OF 10 QUESTIONS, SO WE WERE HAPPY ABOUT THAT. 11 WE HAD CLUB PARTICIPATION AS WELL. WE HAD THE 12 VIETNAMESE CLUB. WE HAD THE BURMESE STUDENT CLUB, THE 13 WORLD MUSIC CLUB AND SOME OTHER CLUBS PARTICIPATING. WE 14 FELT IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. 15 I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE 16 ADMINISTRATORS THAT HELPED US TO GET SET UP DURING THE 17 SUMMER AND THROUGH THE TRANSITION AND ALSO TO DEAN SANTOS, 18 SAMUEL SANTOS, WHO JUMPED IN. 19 WE NOW HAVE OUR MINUTES AND AGENDAS ON THE 20 WEBSITE. WE ALSO HAVE OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS UP, SO WE WILL 21 BE HIRING FOR POSITIONS. AND WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING 22 APPLICATIONS AND WILL BE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE 23 HAVE OUR WEEKLY MEETINGS ON WEDNESDAY FROM 2:15 TO 5:00. 24 YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO COME. 25 WE ARE WORKING ON SETTING UP SHARED GOVERNANCE. AUGUST 26, 2010 123 1 AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH ATTLIA GABOR, WHO IS COMING TO 2 DO A PRESENTATION FOR US AT OUR NEXT MEETING. WE ARE 3 TRYING TO GET THAT PROCESS GOING UNTIL OUR SHARED 4 GOVERNANCE COORDINATOR IS HIRED. 5 WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING OUR ANNUAL BUDGET 6 APPROVED AND, HOPEFULLY, WE WILL HAVE THAT ON OUR AGENDA 7 FOR NEXT WEEK'S MEETING, SO THAT'S COMING ALONG. 8 WE HAVE SENT OUT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS, DELEGATES 9 TO MEET WITH ESL STUDENTS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME 10 COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH TO THE ESL STUDENTS. LET THEM 11 KNOW ABOUT THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT. AND ALSO LET THEM KNOW 12 ABOUT LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ON CAMPUS AND ALSO ABOUT 13 CLUBS AND HOW THEY CAN PARTICIPATE. 14 SO WE HAD TWO MEETINGS THIS WEEK. AND WE GOT 15 SOME INTERESTING FEEDBACK. IT SEEMS THAT SOME OF THE 16 STUDENTS DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT STUDENT GOVERNMENT OR 17 CLUBS. AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO ON 18 AN ONGOING BASIS TO REALLY MAKE IT MORE INCLUSIVE FOR ESL 19 STUDENTS ON CAMPUS AND OTHER STUDENTS. SO WE ARE WORKING 20 ON OUTREACH TO OUR EVENING STUDENTS, STUDENTS WITH 21 DISABILITIES, AND ALL THE STUDENTS ON THE CAMPUS. 22 WE WILL BE PROMOTING THE GIANTS FUND-RAISING 23 EFFORT. ACTIVELY AS ACTIVELY AS POSSIBLE FOR FUND-RAISING 24 FOR CITY COLLEGE AND ALSO THE GREEN LAUNCH PAD PROGRAM AND 25 OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS ON CAMPUS SO THAT WE CAN AUGUST 26, 2010 124 1 REALLY ENCOURAGE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND ECONOMIC 2 SUSTAINABILITY AT THE SAME TIME. 3 WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH DEAN SANTOS AND 4 ALL THE PRESIDENTS OF THE OTHER CAMPUSES AND TRUSTEE FANG 5 TO INCREASE OUR OUTREACH AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THE 6 CAMPUSES SO THAT OCEAN CAMPUS CAN REALLY SUPPORT US IN 7 ANYWAY POSSIBLE. THAT OUR COUNSEL CAN WORK WITH THE OTHER 8 CAMPUSES AND WITH TRUSTEE FANG TO BE SUPPORTIVE, 9 ESPECIALLY THROUGH ELECTION PROCESSES OR WHATEVER NEEDS 10 THEY MAY HAVE. 11 I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT THAT I HAVE TO REPORT 12 FOR TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: THANK YOU. 14 WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO HAVE ALL THE CAMPUSES 15 REPRESENTED BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A TERRIFIC THING FOR 16 CHANGE. 17 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS YOURS, TRUSTEE FANG. 18 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: IT WAS YOURS. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO. NO. NO. IT WASN'T MY 20 IDEA. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I THINK IT WAS A SERIES 22 OF EVENTS THAT LED TO THIS PROBABLY FROM THE MAY MEETING. 23 AND I HAVE TO CREDIT INGRID, OF COURSE, FOR SPEAKING UP IN 24 MAY TO SHOW THAT THE OTHER CAMPUSES ALSO ARE VIABLE AND 25 NEEDS TO BE REPRESENTED. AUGUST 26, 2010 125 1 AND, OF COURSE, THANKS TO PRESIDENT MARKS AS 2 WELL AS THE CHANCELLOR FOR GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA AND 3 MAKING SURE THAT STARTING JUNE ALL THE PRESIDENTS ARE ALL 4 INVITED. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: USUALLY POLITICIANS ARE 7 TRYING TO CLAIM CREDIT FOR STUFF. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WAS ONCE PRESENTED DURING A 9 CAMPAIGN I WAS INTRODUCING A PLACE, AND I WAS ACTUALLY ON 10 THE PLATFORM WITH SOME PARENTS HOLDING A BABY. AND I 11 DIDN'T KISS THE BABY. IT WAS (INAUDIBLE). 12 THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: GOOD EVENING. THREE PARTS TO 14 OUR REPORT TONIGHT. I WILL DO THE FIRST AND THIRD AND SEE 15 IF JOHN BILMONT WILL DO THE MIDDLE PART. 16 THE FIRST PART IS FAIRLY BRIEF. I DID GET 17 UP-TO-THE-MINUTE INFORMATION FROM THE LEGISLATURE. I 18 SPOKE TO FIONA MA OUTSIDE ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE STATE 19 BUDGET AND SADLY THERE IS NO NEWS. SO THE STATE OF 20 CALIFORNIA'S BUDGET CONTINUES TO BE UNFINISHED. AND 21 THEREFORE, CITY COLLEGE CONTINUES TO NOT HAVE ANY 22 CERTAINTY ABOUT OUR STATE FUNDING THAT WE CAN DEPEND ON. 23 THE STATE HAS EXTENDED THE DEADLINE, THE STATE 24 CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. I GUESS IT'S THE ONE IMPORTANT POINT 25 OF NEWS FOR THE BOARD. REGULATION REQUIRES US TO PASS OUR AUGUST 26, 2010 126 1 ANNUAL BUDGET IN THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER EVERY YEAR. THE 2 STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE HAS E-MAILED US AND STATED THAT 3 BECAUSE THE STATE BUDGET IS SO LATE, THAT DEADLINE IS 4 EXTENDED TO OCTOBER 15TH THIS YEAR. 5 WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK OFF THE PRELIMINARY 6 BUDGET THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED BACK IN JUNE. WE WILL BE 7 WORKING THROUGH THE COLLEGE PBC AND THEN ONTO THE BOARD'S 8 BUDGET COMMITTEE AND THEN, HOPEFULLY, THE FULL BOARD TO 9 ADOPT A FINAL BUDGET TO MEET THAT TIME FRAME. 10 AS OF THIS POINT IN THE YEAR, WE ARE NOW IN THE 11 PERIOD WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO REALLY TRY TO TRACK OUR 12 EXPENDITURES NOW THAT THE SEMESTER IS IN GEAR AND THE BULK 13 OF THE FACULTY WORKFORCE IS BACK IN PLACE AND SHOWING UP 14 IN OUR PAYROLL. AND WE CAN REPORT TO YOU ON THAT AT YOUR 15 NEXT MEETING AS WELL. 16 I AM GOING TO PAUSE NOW AND ASK JOHN BILMONT TO 17 TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR CLOSEOUT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2009-2010 18 AND THEN I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE 50 PERCENT LAW. 19 CFO BILMONT: THANKS, PETER. 20 JOHN BILMONT, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 21 I AM GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE YEAR-END 22 CLOSEOUT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2009-2010. I HAVE RELATIVELY 23 GOOD NEWS FOR US ACROSS BOTH THE REVENUE AND THE 24 EXPENDITURE FRONT. I AM GOING TO JUST GO OVER A COUPLE OF 25 HIGHLIGHTS. AUGUST 26, 2010 127 1 THINGS ARE CHANGING, NOT NECESSARILY DAILY, BUT 2 EVERY THREE OR FOUR DAYS WE HAVE AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF 3 CLOSEOUTS FOR EXPENDITURES OR UPDATES IN REVENUES. 4 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2009-2010, WE ARE TRACKING 5 CURRENTLY UNDER BUDGET. THE BOARD AUTHORIZED $193,524,356 6 LAST YEAR. AND AT THIS YEAR POINT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE 7 GOING TO COME IN UNDER THAT BY ABOUT $200,000 ON A 8 CONSOLIDATED BASIS. 9 WE DO HAVE SOME FAVORABLE VARIANCES ON THE 10 SUPPLIES MATERIALS AND OTHER OPERATING LINES THAT OFFSET 11 SOME NEGATIVE VARIANCES IN TERMS OF ACADEMIC AND 12 CLASSIFIED SALARIES. 13 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REVENUE EVENTS THAT ARE 14 STILL OUTSTANDING. WE'VE GOT SOME SALES TAX THAT WILL BE 15 COMING THROUGH THE FINAL QUARTERLY ADJUSTMENT. WE ALSO 16 HAVE SOME LOTTERY REVENUE THAT WE REALLY WON'T KNOW THE 17 FINAL NUMBER UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO WE ARE 18 WAITING ON THOSE ITEMS. 19 ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE 20 ARE TRACKING UNDER BUDGET WHICH IS I THINK A SIGNIFICANT 21 ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THE INSTITUTION. 22 IN TERMS OF THE COMBINED FAVORABLE VARIANCE IN 23 REVENUE, A SLIGHTLY UNFAVORABLE ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. 24 THE BIGGEST EVENT THAT WE CAN EXPECT IS THAT WE WILL NOT 25 DRAW DOWN ON THE $2 MILLION OF THE BOARD DESIGNATED AUGUST 26, 2010 128 1 RESERVE. WE MAY NEED A SMALL PORTION OF THAT AT THIS 2 TIME. WE ARE EXPECTING A SMALL CLOSEOUT OF ABOUT $100,000 3 FAVORABLE IN TERMS OF THE UNRESERVED UNDESIGNATED BALANCE. 4 HOWEVER, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A MOMENT TO 5 RECOGNIZE THE ENTIRE INSTITUTION FOR THE DISCIPLINE AND 6 THE FORTITUDE THAT IT HAD LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF KEEPING 7 EXPENDITURES LOW. AND THE RESULT IS THE FACT THAT WE WILL 8 NOT CONSUME ALL THE BOARD DESIGNATED RESERVE AUTHORIZATION 9 AND POSSIBLY NONE. 10 THE OTHER MAJOR FACTOR THAT CAME INTO PLAY IS 11 THE PRIOR CORRECTION STATE APPORTIONMENT WHICH REFLECTED A 12 STRONG ENROLLMENT STRATEGY ON OUR PART. AND I WANT TO 13 ALSO MENTION THAT FOR THE RECORD. 14 AND AT THIS TIME I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU 15 HAVE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'VE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. I 17 WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE STATE'S BUDGET. AND I KNOW WE'VE 18 PASSED NOT LONG AGO SOME BORROWING AUTHORITY FOR TRANS AND 19 I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE ABILITY OF THE DISTRICT TO BE 20 ABLE TO MEET ITS OBLIGATIONS WITH -- 21 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: -- MONEY NOT COMING IN FROM 23 THE STATE. 24 CFO BILMONT: YEAH. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF IT'S NOT COMING IN, I'M AUGUST 26, 2010 129 1 JUST NOT CERTAIN WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS. 2 CFO BILMONT: I ACTUALLY PICKED UP THE WEEKLY 3 CASH REPORT THAT WE GENERATE INTERNALLY HERE. OUR CURRENT 4 BORROWING STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE THIS: 5 WE JUST BORROWED ROUGHLY $28 MILLION ON A TAX 6 REVENUE ANTICIPATION NOTE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE TO PAYBACK 7 UNTIL JUNE OF 2011. WE ALSO HAVE A BORROWING AUTHORITY OF 8 APPROXIMATELY 31 MILLION WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN 9 FRANCISCO. AND THOSE TWO ELEMENTS COMBINED, I BELIEVE, 10 WILL CARRY US ALL THE WAY THROUGH OCTOBER OF 2010. SO 11 WITH THE STATE'S BUDGET IN THE CONDITION IT IS NOW IN 12 TERMS OF THE -- 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: OCTOBER 2010, TWO MONTHS. 14 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT WAS THE -- 16 CFO BILMONT: $31 MILLION. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT WAS THE OTHER FIGURE? 18 CFO BILMONT: 28 MILLION. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: 28 MILLION, OKAY. 20 CFO BILMONT: AND THAT'S THE END OF OCTOBER. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OUR (INAUDIBLE) RATE IS OUT 22 20 MILLION. 23 CFO BILMONT: IT'S ABOUT 16. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: 16 MILLION, RIGHT. 25 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S COMBINED PAYROLL AND AUGUST 26, 2010 130 1 ACCOUNTS PAYABLE. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: I KNOW YOU WILL DO IT. IF 3 THINGS START GETTING DICEY, KEEP US POSTED. 4 CFO BILMONT: SURE. NOW THE STATE IS NOT 5 DISPERSING CASH. THAT'S TRUE. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. 7 CFO BILMONT: AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE 8 QUESTION ON MANY PEOPLE'S MINDS IS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO 9 DO IN PROBABLY OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER IF THERE IS NO CASH 10 FLOW? 11 WE DO HAVE A STRATEGY AROUND MIDYEAR TRANS WHICH 12 IS ANOTHER BORROWING OPTION FOR THE DISTRICT. WE HAVE 13 AUTHORITY, AND I WOULDN'T NECESSARY RECOMMENDED THIS, BUT 14 WE CAN BORROW UP TO 85 PERCENT OF OUR STATE APPORTIONMENT 15 UNDER THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION. WE CURRENTLY ARE ABOUT 16 20 -- 18 PERCENT INTO THAT WITH THOSE TWO COMBINED 17 AUTHORITIES. CERTAINLY, THE CHANCELLOR HAS ASKED THE SAME 18 QUESTION AND SO HE KNOWS A BIT MORE ON ANY STRATEGY HE HAS 19 ALONG WITH PETER. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING JOHN 21 JUST TOLD YOU. WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT, OF 22 COURSE, A COLLEGE DISTRICT OR A SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT SET 23 UP TO BE A BANKER FOR THE STATE. WE ARE LIKE SOMEBODY WHO 24 HAS A JOB AND THEIR BOSS KEEPS PAYING THEM LATER, AND WE 25 HAVEN'T GOTTEN PAID YET. AUGUST 26, 2010 131 1 NO DOUBT THERE WILL BE SMALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN 2 THE STATE THAT WILL REACH THE CASH WALL BEFORE SOMETHING 3 LIKE US. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP AT THIS POINT 4 WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY. IT'S NOT FREE. WHEN WE BORROW 5 MONEY EITHER THROUGH TRANS OR THE CITY, IT'S AT A COST. 6 FORTUNATELY, INTEREST RATES ARE LOW NOW, BUT THEY ARE NOT 7 ZERO. SO THERE IS A REAL COST TO IT. 8 IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT RIGHT TO WHERE IT HURTS, 9 IT'S TO THE STUDENTS AT CITY COLLEGE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO 10 BORROW ALL THIS MONEY, AND WE HAVE TO PAY INTEREST INSTEAD 11 OF USING ALL OF OUR MONEY ON TIME TO PAY FOR OPERATING THE 12 COLLEGE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, THE CAL GRANTS ARE BEING 15 DEFERRED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF A BUDGET. DOES ANYONE 16 KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? 17 MS. SMITH: YES. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THEY ARE? 19 CFO BILMONT: YES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY MECHANISMS 21 THAT WE HAVE SIMILAR TO TRANS OR ANY OTHER KIND OF 22 BORROWING MECHANISM THAT CAN GET FUNDS TO STUDENTS THAT 23 THEY WOULD GET EVENTUALLY WHEN THE BUDGET PASSES? 24 CFO BILMONT: WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO 25 DEFERRED -- DID A SIMILAR THING, I BELIEVE A YEAR AGO. AUGUST 26, 2010 132 1 AND AS I RECALL, IT WAS EITHER A BOARD RESOLUTION OR 2 ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION TO EXTEND BEHIND THAT DEFERRAL. I 3 DON'T SEE JORGE BELL HERE TODAY, BUT HE WOULD HAVE THE 4 EXACT DETAILS ON THAT TODAY. 5 LESLIE. 6 MS. SMITH: I NEED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I 7 WANT TO SHOW MY POSITION. AND WHAT THEY ARE ASKING THE 8 STUDENTS TO DO THE LOANS AND THE GRANT. OTHER THINGS HAVE 9 NOT BEEN DELAYED, SO IT'S JUST THE CAL GRANTS THAT THEY 10 ARE RELYING ON OTHER FINANCIAL AID INSTRUMENTS. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THERE ARE MECHANISMS THAT THE 12 DISTRICT CAN UTILIZE IN CASE THOSE FUNDS ARE NEEDED? 13 CFO BILMONT: YES. AND I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND 14 THAT IT'S UNDER THE BOARD AUTHORITY. I RECOMMEND IT BE BY 15 BOARD ACTION AS OPPOSED TO ADMINISTRATIVE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT YOU DON'T RECALL WHAT IT IS AT 17 THIS POINT, RIGHT? 18 CFO BILMONT: NO, I DO NOT. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: NO, BUT WE WILL RESEARCH THAT. 20 AND IF WE NEED AN ACTION ITEM, WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I HOPE NOT, BUT MAYBE WE COULD 22 HAVE IT JUST IN CASE. DO YOU NEED A BOARD RESOLUTION TO 23 AUTHORIZE OR ADVANCE THAT PROGRAM? 24 CFO BILMONT: I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT. I THINK 25 THAT BE WOULD BE THE MOST SOLID COURSE OF ACTION TO AUGUST 26, 2010 133 1 FOLLOW. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN. I HOPE THE BUDGET WILL 3 PASS, BUT JUST KEEP IT IN MIND. 4 CFO BILMONT: CERTAINLY A CALCULATION OF WHAT 5 TYPE OF RESOURCES IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT WOULD BE 6 SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 8 BEFORE YOU GO, YOU SAID THAT WE ARE UNDER BUDGET 9 $200,000. 10 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S CORRECT. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT PROJECTED OR IS THAT THE 12 CURRENT NUMBERS? 13 CFO BILMONT: THAT WAS AS OF AUGUST 12TH, 2010. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WHAT'S THE PROJECTED NUMBER? 15 CFO BILMONT: IT'S GOING LOWER. WE ARE IN THE 16 MIDDLE OF OUR CLOSEOUT PROCESS NOW. IT IS GOING LOWER. 17 IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE CERTAIN EXPENDITURES IN THE 18 UNRESTRICTED FUND THAT QUALIFIED FOR RESTRICTED FUNDING 19 SOURCES. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING THOSE AND 20 CHARGING THEM OUT TO CATEGORICALS AND SOME SURPLUS. 21 ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T MENTION IN OTHER 22 ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE DISTRICT IS THAT THOSE CATEGORICALS 23 AND STUDENT SERVICES AREA THAT WERE REDUCED LAST YEAR, WE 24 HAD PUT FORTH A PROJECTION OF 1.307 MILLION AS THE 25 POTENTIAL BAILOUT FOR THOSE. WE ARE COMING IN SLIGHTLY AUGUST 26, 2010 134 1 UNDER BUDGET IN THAT AREA TOO. SO WE ARE SLIGHTLY LESS 2 THAN 1.307 MILLION IN TERMS OF THE STUDENT SERVICES AREA, 3 WHICH MEANS THE ACCURACY OF THE REDUCTIONS WAS WELL 4 CALIBRATED -- 5 TRUSTEE NGO: SO DO YOU HAVE A PROJECTED AMOUNT 6 THAT WE WILL BE UNDER YOU THINK? 7 CFO BILMONT: I DO. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: WAS IT NOT -- 9 CFO BILMONT: I THINK WE WILL COME UNDER. I 10 WOULD SAY THAT WE WILL COME UNDER BUDGET ON A CONSOLIDATED 11 BASIS AT LEAST $400,000. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 13 CFO BILMONT: IT COULD GO AS HIGH AS 800,000. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. GOOD. SO THE REVENUE ITEMS 15 YOU MENTIONED, THE SALES TAX AND THE LOTTERY. 16 CFO BILMONT: YES. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: ARE THOSE PROJECTED ABOVE BASE 18 LINE AT THIS POINT OR ARE THEY EXPECTED TO BE -- 19 CFO BILMONT: GOOD QUESTION. ACTUALLY, LOTTERY 20 IS COMING IN RIGHT ON -- SLIGHTLY ABOVE BUDGET, $103,000 21 OVER BUDGET, BUT LESS THAN WHAT I WAS FORECASTING. I WAS 22 FORECASTING 4.6 MILLION. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ACTUALLY 23 GOING TO END UP 4.4 MILLION ON THE UNRESTRICTED PORTION. 24 THERE IS A RESTRICTED PORTION UNDER THE 25 GARDENIAS TEXTBOOK ACT, WHAT WE USUALLY CALL PROPOSITION AUGUST 26, 2010 135 1 20. THAT WAS FORECAST AT 370,000, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS 2 GOING TO COME IN AT AROUND 625,000, WHICH MEANS 3 UNRESTRICTED INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES, UNRESTRICTED 4 INSTRUCTIONAL ACTIVITIES CAN BE CHARGED OFF TO THAT 5 RESTRICTED PORTION WHICH IS GONNA ALLEVIATE THE 6 UNRESTRICTED EXPENDITURES AS PART OF THAT CATEGORICAL OR 7 RESTRICTED FUNDS CLEAN UP THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO THE LOTTERY NUMBER IS NOT 9 FIXED YET, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT IS GOING TO COME UNDER THE 10 BUDGETED AMOUNT THAT WE HAD FOR THE YEAR, RIGHT? 11 CFO BILMONT: LOTTERY REVENUE FOR UNRESTRICTED 12 WILL BE -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: ABOUT 200. 14 CFO BILMONT: IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 100,000 15 OVER AND THEN THE PROPOSITION RESTRICTED PORTIONS ARE 16 PROBABLY GOING TO BE $300,000 HIGHER. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THE NET IS -- 18 CFO BILMONT: IT'S MORE LOTTERY MONEY THAN WE 19 ORIGINALLY BUDGETED IN BOTH CATEGORIES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO THE REVENUE EXPECTATIONS 21 ARE HIGHER THAN THE BUDGET, RIGHT? 22 CFO BILMONT: YES, THEY ARE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, AND THAT'S ON TOP OF THE 24 SAVINGS THAT WE ARE EXPECTING? 25 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S CORRECT. AUGUST 26, 2010 136 1 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND THAT'S ON TOP OF NOT 2 TAPPING THE RESERVE? 3 CFO BILMONT: YES. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: NEXT WE HAVE AN ITEM THAT WE 7 ACTUALLY IN MY TIME HERE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER 8 REALLY HAD TO DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD. IT'S A 9 PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE. I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU TWO 10 HANDOUTS RELATED TO THE STATE'S 50 PERCENT LAW. AND THERE 11 ARE COPIES ON THE TABLE IN THE BACK IF ANYONE WANTS THIS. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BEFORE YOU DO, CAN I JUST 13 SAY ONE THING BEFORE WE GO ON. 14 I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN TERMS OF WHAT JOHN 15 STATED, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR. WE ARE NOT 16 GOING TO BE USING ANY OF THE UNDESIGNATED RESERVE. I KNOW 17 YOU SAID -- WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE IT. NONE OF THE 2 18 MILLION THAT WAS SET ASIDE IN RESERVE IS GOING TO BE USED. 19 THAT'S MY READING OF THE NUMBERS. AND THERE WILL BE A 20 CLOSEOUT, A POSITIVE NUMBER. SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD 21 SAY 400 OR 300 OR WHATEVER, BUT THERE WILL BE -- FOR A 22 FACT, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO USE ANY OF THE RESERVE, AND 23 THERE WILL BE A POSITIVE CLOSEOUT. 24 CFO BILMONT: OKAY. I AGREE. AND THE POSITIVE 25 CLOSEOUT THAT I TALKED ABOUT WAS NOT 400. IT WAS MORE AUGUST 26, 2010 137 1 LIKE 100,000. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: GOOD. WHATEVER. SO I WANT 3 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GIVING THE WRONG MESSAGE. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, IT'S NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IF 5 THE NUMBERS ARE GOOD FOR THE YEAR, BUT THE NEXT TWO FISCAL 6 YEARS ALSO HAVE A DIFFERENT -- WE ARE LOOKING AT A 7 DIFFERENT STORY AS WELL. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT'S GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. AND WE NEED TO UPDATE 11 OUR THREE-YEAR MODEL FOR YOU. WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT 12 VERY SOON. 13 AND ONE LAST SENTENCE ON THAT TOPIC. 2009-2010 14 WAS VERY WELL MANAGED FISCALLY BY EVIDENCE OF ALL THE 15 STATEMENTS WE JUST MADE. WE NEED TO REPEAT THAT IN 16 2010-2011. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WOULD YOU SAY, PETER, 18 THAT'S PRETTY MUCH UNSUSTAINABLE LONG TERM? 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I WOULD SAY GIVEN HOW FAR DOWN 20 WE PUSHED NON PERSONNEL SPENDING, YEAH, PARTS OF THAT ARE 21 UNSUSTAINABLE. THEY CAN'T STAY DOWN AT THAT LEVEL 22 FOREVER. 23 I CAN GIVE YOU EXAMPLES, BUT YES -- 24 WHAT WE HAVE GOING OUT TO YOU RIGHT NOW IS A 25 CHART AND AN APPLICATION. AUGUST 26, 2010 138 1 ARE THEY CONTINUING TO MOVE ACROSS? 2 THE STATE HAS SOMETHING CALLED THE 50 PERCENT 3 LAW, WHICH IS A RATIO, A MEASURE OF DOLLARS SPENT ON, 4 QUOTE, "THE SALARIES OF CLASSROOM INSTRUCTORS" AS OPPOSED 5 TO ANOTHER, QUOTE, "THE CURRENT EXPERIENCE OF EDUCATION." 6 IT'S AN ITEM THAT WE MEASURE AND PRODUCE IN AN 7 ANNUAL REPORT CALLED, "THE 311 REPORT," A FINANCIAL REPORT 8 THAT WE SEND ONTO THE STATE EVERY YEAR. EVERY DISTRICT IN 9 THE STATE DOES ONE. 10 THE CHART SHOWS YOU WHERE OUR COLLEGE HAS BEEN 11 WITH RESPECT TO THE 50 PERCENT CALCULATION OVER THE LAST 12 SEVERAL YEARS. SO AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT CHART IS FISCAL 13 YEAR 2003-2004, 53.55 PERCENT. AND THEN YOU TRACK UP TO 14 THE ESTIMATED NUMBER FOR FISCAL YEAR 2009-2010, THE ONE 15 WE'VE JUST BEEN TALKING ABOUT. WHICH CURRENTLY, AND IT'S 16 AN ESTIMATE, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. IT'S AT 51.42, WHICH 17 WOULD BE FINE AS LONG AS YOU'RE $1 OVER THE 50 PERCENT LAW 18 YOU ARE FINE. 19 THERE'S NO REWARD FOR BEING AT 55 PERCENT. IT'S 20 THE SAME THING AS BEING JUST BARELY ABOVE 50 PERCENT. BUT 21 IN THE EVENT THE DISTRICT IS BELOW 50 PERCENT IN THAT 22 RATIO -- AND REMEMBER 2009-2010 PART OF OUR FISCAL 23 SURVIVAL STRATEGY WAS TO PRODUCE A LARGE NUMBER OF CLASS 24 SECTIONS. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPENT RELATIVELY ON 25 THESE SALARIES AND CLASSROOM INSTRUCTORS WAS LOWER IN AUGUST 26, 2010 139 1 2009-2010. 2 BY THE WAY IN THIS MEASURE, SOME THINGS ARE 3 COUNTERINTUITIVE. WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT LIBRARIANS 4 AND COUNSELORS ARE TO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. THEY DON'T 5 COUNT AS PART OF SALARIES AND CLASSROOM INSTRUCTORS. SO 6 IT'S REALLY A VERY NARROW INTERPRETATION. 7 THERE IS A FINANCIAL PENALTY, HOWEVER, FOR NOT 8 MAKING THE 50 PERCENT LAW. SO WHAT A DISTRICT DOES IN 9 ORDER TO PROTECT ITSELF IS TO ASK FOR AN EXEMPTION, WHICH 10 IS GRANTED BY THE STATE BOARD OF GOVERNORS. I DON'T KNOW 11 OF ANY DISTRICTS WHO HAVE BEEN TURNED OUT, FRANKLY, SINCE 12 THE TIME I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS. IT IS RELATIVELY A 13 FORMALITY. 14 WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS KEEP A PLACE FOR 15 OURSELVES AT THIS POINT. I AM JUST GIVING YOU AN 16 ADVISORY. THE APPLICATION IS DUE BY SEPTEMBER 15TH AND 17 THIS IS YOUR LAST BOARD MEETING BEFORE THAT. IT'S JUST 18 THAT WE NEED TO FILL THIS OUT JUST TO HOLD OUR PLACE. 19 IF OUR NUMBERS HOLD UP, WE WON'T NEED IT. AND 20 WE WILL WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. IF OUR NUMBERS GO BELOW 21 THE 50 PERCENT, THERE'S MORE WE WILL NEED TO DO. WE WILL 22 NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS IN 23 DETAIL, EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THE CALCULATION IS IN A HIGH 24 LEVEL OF DETAIL. SO I JUST WANTED TO SUNSHINE THAT FOR 25 YOU THIS EVENING. AUGUST 26, 2010 140 1 I'M STILL OPTIMISTIC WE WON'T NEED TO DO IT. 2 BUT I WOULD BE DERELICT IN MY RESPONSIBILITY IF I DIDN'T 3 GET OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR NOW BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR 4 FINANCIAL PENALTY IF WE ENDED UP NEEDING THE EXEMPTION. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? 6 THANKS VERY MUCH. 7 KAREN SAGINOR, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. 8 MS. SAGINOR: I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS 9 APPRECIATION FOR THE FACT THAT THE DISTRICT USES THE TRANS 10 POOL AND OTHER MEANS THAT PETER WAS SAYING. IT'S LIKE OUR 11 RELATIONSHIP TO THE STATE IS LIKE AN EMPLOYEE WHO DOESN'T 12 KNOW WHETHER HIS EMPLOYER IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE 13 PAYROLL OR NOT. 14 I AM VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT AS EMPLOYEES OUR 15 RELATIONSHIP TO THE DISTRICT IS NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. YOU 16 ALWAYS MAKE PAYROLL. WE HAVE MANY OTHER STRESSES. WE 17 NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. IT IS A VERY WONDERFUL 18 THING. THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WORKED YEARS AGO FOR A 20 COMPANY THAT THE LONGER TERM EMPLOYEES -- IT WAS A VERY 21 SMALL COMPANY -- KNEW THAT AS SOON AS THE PAYCHECKS WERE 22 HANDED OUT THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO TO THE BANK BECAUSE ONLY 23 SOME OF THE PAYCHECKS WOULD BE COVERED. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IS THAT COMPANY STILL IN 25 BUSINESS? AUGUST 26, 2010 141 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: I DON'T KNOW. GOOD QUESTION. 2 I DON'T THINK SO. 3 OTHER RESOLUTIONS ON OUR AGENDA. 4 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR B1, PLEASE. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: MR. PRESIDENT. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: DID YOU HAVE MORE YOU WANTED 9 TO TALK ABOUT? 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: DAVID LIGGETT AND I HAVE 11 DISCUSSED B1, AND WE HEARD YOUR DISCUSSION EARLIER THIS 12 EVENING. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF GENERAL COUNSEL TO 13 DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS OKAY FOR US TO PROCEED 14 WITH THIS. BUT WE ARE TELLING YOU THAT WE ARE OKAY WITH 15 DELAYING IT UNTIL NEXT MONTH. WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED THAT 16 THE CONSTRUCT ACTIVITY SHOULDN'T START UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST 17 FOR OTHER REASONS ANYWAY. AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO 18 DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE MORE AT THE FIT MEETING. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I APPRECIATE THAT. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MOVE TO TABLE IT TO NEXT 22 MONTH. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I THINK TECHNICALLY WE CAN'T 24 WITHDRAW IT AT THIS POINT, UNLESS YOU TELL ME WE CAN, THAT 25 WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO. AUGUST 26, 2010 142 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON IS MOVING IT 2 TO TABLE IT UNTIL NEXT MONTH. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY TRUSTEE 5 NGO. 6 ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? 7 IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CONTINUING THIS 8 UNTIL NEXT MONTH, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 9 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 18 THANKS VERY MUCH. 19 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR B1(A). 20 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 24 YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME, COUNSEL. 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I WAS GOING TO EXPLAIN -- AUGUST 26, 2010 143 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: PARDON ME? 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I WAS GOING TO EXPLAIN IT. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO -- 4 PETER, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT B1(A)? 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH, THE BOARD HAS PREVIOUSLY 6 PASSED A RESOLUTION THAT WILL ALLOW THE DISTRICT TO GO 7 FORWARD WITH REPLACING THE AGENT SURFACE ON THE FOOTBALL 8 FIELD FINANCED OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. IN DISCUSSIONS 9 WITH GENERAL COUNSEL, WE LEARNED THAT IT WAS STILL 10 NECESSARY TO PASS THIS SEPARATE RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE 11 FINANCING PART. IT IS STILL THE SAME FINANCING PLAN THAT 12 WE TOLD THE BOARD ABOUT PREVIOUSLY OVER EIGHT YEARS. THE 13 AMOUNT PER YEAR WILL NOT EXCEED $84,800. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE FILLING IN THE 15 COMPANY NOW WHERE BEFORE WE DID NOT HAVE A COMPANY. 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S CORRECT. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 18 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OTHERWISE, IT'S THE SAME 19 RESOLUTION. 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WELL, ACTUALLY IT WASN'T. 21 THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION IN MARCH INDICATED THAT MONDO WAS 22 GOING TO ARRANGE FOR FINANCING. THIS IS THE FINANCE 23 COMPANY (INAUDIBLE). 24 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SEE. AUGUST 26, 2010 144 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 2 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: HAS IT BEEN MOVED? 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. 4 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE -- 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IS 7 THE INTEREST RATE ON THIS IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT COSTS 8 COMPARATIVELY TO HOW MUCH WE ARE FINANCING? 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: DO YOU KNOW? 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I DON'T. 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I'M SORRY. WE DON'T HAVE THAT 12 INFORMATION. I DO REMEMBER HEARING IT. IT WAS NOT A VERY 13 HIGH NUMBER. IT SOUNDED AS IF IT WAS A FAIR DEAL FOR US. 14 I WISH I HAD THAT FOR YOU, BUT I DON'T. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR 17 VOTE ON B1(A). 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B1(A), 20 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 21 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. AUGUST 26, 2010 145 1 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 4 B1(A) PASSES. 5 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTIONS FOR F1, PLEASE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE F1. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 10 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON F1? 11 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF F1, 14 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 15 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 23 F1 PASSES. 24 B4 -- OH, SORRY, B4 WE HAD PULLED OFF. 25 SO IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR B4. AUGUST 26, 2010 146 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 5 I THINK, TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOU WANTED TO SAY 6 SOMETHING. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I HAD JUST A REALLY SIMPLE 8 COMMENT. IT SAYS HERE "TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY 9 TRANSPORTATION ON-SITE LOGISTIC SERVICES." 10 I KNOW WE HAVE A STUDY ABROAD PROGRAM. IS THERE 11 NOT STAFF OR -- I MEAN INTERNAL STAFF THAT CAN HANDLE 12 THIS. I MEAN I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A REASON WHY 13 WE ARE JUST CONTRACTING THIS TO THEM. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE 14 IF THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO CAMBODIA AND VIETNAM, AND 15 THEY ARE GETTING CREDIT. I AM NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH A LOT, 16 BUT I THOUGHT MAYBE FACULTY OR STAFF COULD GO WITH THEM 17 AND IT COULD BE DONE IN-HOUSE, SO IF I COULD BE JUST 18 EDUCATED A LITTLE. 19 MS. LOW: HI, JOANNE LOW, ASSOCIATE VICE 20 CHANCELLOR FOR INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION. 21 OUR STUDY ABROAD PROGRAM, WE HAVE THE SHORT TERM 22 AND WE ALSO HAVE THE LONG-TERM PROGRAMS. THIS IS A 23 SHORT-TERM PROGRAM WHERE WE WILL BE SENDING A FACULTY 24 MEMBER WITH THE STUDENTS. THE FACULTY MEMBER WILL BE 25 CONDUCTING LECTURES AND PROVIDING THE INSTRUCTIONAL PART. AUGUST 26, 2010 147 1 THE CONTRACTOR PROVIDES FOR US THE SERVICES IN TERMS OF 2 MAKING THE PLANE RESERVATIONS, HOTEL RESERVATIONS, ALL OF 3 THE IN-COUNTRY LOGISTICAL TYPES OF DETAILS. 4 WE HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT TRIED HANDLING THAT ON 5 OUR OWN SIMILARLY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A LOT MORE IN 6 TERMS OF RESOURCES, PERSONNEL, AND THEN THERE ARE I THINK 7 LIABILITY ISSUES. AND THAT'S WHY THE DISTRICT HAS ALWAYS 8 WORKED WITH A VENDOR OR A CONTRACTOR. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IN THE BACKGROUND IT 10 SAYS, THAT THERE WERE EIGHT PROPOSALS RECEIVED -- 11 MS. LOW: YES. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 13 BUT THE RESOLUTION PART DOESN'T NAME A COST THAT'S BEING 14 AUTHORIZED. 15 MS. LOW: I THINK THAT, AS YOU LOOK AT THE 16 CHART, THE VENDOR THAT WE'VE SELECTED ON THE FRONT THAT 17 THEY'RE THE LOW VENDOR AND THE COST IS BASED ON THE NUMBER 18 OF STUDENTS. 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE FIRST ONE WITH THE 20 ASTERISK. 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I BELIEVE IT IS THE SECOND 22 ONE, TRUSTEE RIZZO. 23 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOW DO WE KNOW THAT? IS 24 IT INDICATED SOMEHOW? 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT'S AEA. AND AEA IS THE AUGUST 26, 2010 148 1 SECOND ONE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S IN THE LANGUAGE. 3 MS. LOW: IN THE RESOLVED IT SAYS, "TO CONTRACT 4 WITH ACADEMIC EXPERIENCES ABROAD, AEA. SO THEY ARE THE 5 SECOND ONE LISTED ON THE CHART. 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHICH COST IS THAT? 7 MS. LOW: IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS 8 WE HAVE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THAT A PER STUDENT 10 COST -- 11 MS. LOW: IT IS A PER STUDENT COST. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- $3500? 13 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD TO HAVE A NUMBER IN THE 14 RESOLVED AREA, THE RESOLVED PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION. A 15 NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I GUESS WE 16 COULD DO A QUICK CALCULATION, MAYBE I WILL DO THAT. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: WHILE YOU ARE DOING THAT, 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD PREFER US DELEGATING 20 THIS TO A CLASSIFIED OR SOMEONE IN THE OFFICE. HECK, EVEN 21 MAKE THIS A PROJECT FOR SOMEONE AND PAY THEM FOR DOING 22 THIS PROJECT INTERNALLY WITHIN THE INSTITUTION. MAYBE 23 JUST SO WE KEEP THE MONEY WITHIN THE FAMILY I GUESS. 24 I DON'T KNOW I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE 25 DONE INTERNALLY -- THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT IT CAN BE AUGUST 26, 2010 149 1 DONE INTERNALLY. I TOTALLY RESPECT THE TRIP. I RESPECT 2 THE WORLD. I JUST THINK THIS SHOULD BE DONE -- 3 MS. LOW: -- INTERNALLY. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 5 MS. LOW: YEAH SO THIS PARTICULAR COST HERE 6 ACTUALLY IS INCLUDING THEIR AIRFARE, ALL OF THAT COST. IT 7 IS NOT LIKE THIS GOES TO THE CONTRACTOR TO PAY THE 8 CONTRACTOR. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE THE FIGURE. IF WE 11 TAKE THE HIGHEST NUMBER, 26 PARTICIPANTS. IT COMES TO THE 12 $95,000 AND CHANGE. SO WE COULD ADD -- I WOULD LIKE TO 13 ADD TO THE RESOLVED CLAUSE AND THEN I WILL MOVE IT THAT 14 THIS IS NOT TO EXCEED $100,000 BECAUSE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT 15 AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN 16 THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. I WILL MOVE THAT. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO SECOND 18 IT? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND THAT. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND IT ASSUMING THAT 22 THAT'S -- 23 MS. LOW: IT IS PAID DIRECTLY FROM THE STUDENTS 24 TO THE VENDOR. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: THAT'S MY QUESTION. AUGUST 26, 2010 150 1 MS. LOW: IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S DISTRICT. THE 2 MONEY DOESN'T COME THROUGH US. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, IT DOESN'T COME 4 THROUGH US. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT'S NOT -- 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC 7 REVIEW THAT TO NOT HAVE THE FIGURE ANYWHERE IS NOT VERY 8 TRANSPARENT. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: WE ARE CONTRACTING WITH THIS 10 COMPANY TO PROVIDE THE ARRANGEMENTS ON A PER STUDENT 11 BASIS, AND WE ARE OFFERING THAT PRICE TO THE STUDENTS. 12 MS. LOW: YES. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND ALL THE COSTS ARE BORNE 14 BY THE STUDENTS. 15 MS. LOW: RIGHT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT'S UNLIKE A VENDOR, A TYPICAL 17 KIND OF VENDOR AGREEMENT WHERE YOU ARE BUYING SOMETHING 18 UNMASS PER STUDENT. 19 MS. LOW: NO, WE ARE NOT. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN COLLECTIVELY. SO WE ARE 21 NOT GIVING UP MONEY, BUT WE ARE CHOOSING TO GO WITH THAT 22 VENDOR JUST FOR CONTRACTING PURPOSES. 23 MS. LOW: YES. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: NOT NECESSARILY FOR TRANSFERRING 25 MONEY OUT. AUGUST 26, 2010 151 1 MS. LOW: RIGHT. NO, WE DON'T TRANSFER ANY 2 MONEY OUT. WE DON'T HANDLE THE MONEY. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK PART OF IT THERE WAS A 4 LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT HOW IT WAS PRESENTED. 5 MS. LOW: OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE 7 TYPICALLY -- I'VE NEVER VOTED ON A RESOLUTION LIKE THIS 8 BEFORE -- 9 MS. LOW: YES. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS. 11 MS. LOW: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE 13 CONFUSION. 14 MS. LOW: OKAY. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: COULD I ASK SOMETHING ELSE FOR A 16 SECOND? 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE DO NEED TO CONTRACT 19 THIS BECAUSE IT IS A VERY SPECIALIZED TYPE OF WORK THAT 20 THEY WOULD BE DOING, TRUSTEE JACKSON. IT IS VERY 21 SPECIALIZED. AND IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT TO HAVE 22 IT DONE THROUGH THIS COMPANY THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY DO FOR 23 THEIR SERVICE. 24 AND I AM A LITTLE OFFENDED THAT YOU DIDN'T ASK 25 ME TO COSPONSOR THIS RESOLUTION GIVEN THAT -- AUGUST 26, 2010 152 1 MS. LOW: I'M SORRY. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT MAY I BE ADDED AS A COSPONSOR 3 TO THE RESOLUTION? 4 MS. LOW: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I WASN'T REALLY OFFENDED. I WAS 6 JUST KIDDING. 7 MS. LOW: WE WILL ADD YOU. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: KEEP ME POSTED. MAYBE I MIGHT GO 9 WITH THE STUDENTS. 10 MS. LOW: NO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO ONCE THIS 11 IS APPROVED, THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 12 BROCHURE AND THEN THE ADVERTISING STARTS COMING OUT. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AND ONE LAST THING, SO THE 14 STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING SELECTED, ARE THEY GOING TO BE 15 AMERICAN STUDENTS GOING TO VIETNAM OR ARE THEY GOING TO 16 TAKE ANYONE THAT HAPPENS TO BE A STUDENT TO GO BACK THERE. 17 MS. LOW: ANYONE WHO IS INTEREST IN 18 PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM CAN APPLY TO GO. AND THEY 19 WILL BE GETTING COURSE CREDIT. SO ANYONE WHO IS 20 INTERESTED IN GETTING COURSE CREDIT AND GOING, YES. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE 24 THAT I'M FULLY AWARE THAT THE STUDENTS WERE GOING TO PAY 25 FOR THIS, BUT IS THE COMPANY DOING THIS -- I MEAN THE AUGUST 26, 2010 153 1 COMPANY HAS TO BE MAKING SOME KIND OF MONEY OR ELSE THEY 2 WOULDN'T -- ARE THEY DOING THIS ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS 3 SETTING THE GIST UP? I MEAN THEY ARE GETTING PAID 4 SOMETHING, AREN'T THEY? 5 MS. LOW: YES, I MEAN THIS IS THEIR BUSINESS, SO 6 THEY ARE MAKING SOMETHING OFF OF THIS CONTRACT, BUT THE 7 STUDENTS DO PAY THEM DIRECTLY. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OF COURSE. 9 MS. LOW: AND THEY HAVE $3 MILLION IN LIABILITY 10 INSURANCE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. SO IF THE AIRFARE 11 CANCELED OR THE PLANE COMPANY GOES OUT OF BUSINESS, I MEAN 12 THEY ARE COVERED FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHATEVER 14 THE COMPANY MAKES OFF OF THIS SERVICE, IT WOULD BE GREAT 15 IF OUR INSTITUTION MADE THAT AND NOT PAID AN OUTSIDE 16 CONTRACTOR. 17 BUT ONCE AGAIN, I REALLY DO RESPECT THE WORK 18 THAT'S BEEN DONE IN GIVING STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO 19 TRAVEL, AND STUDY, AND LEARN DIFFERENT CULTURES, SO I 20 REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. I MEAN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO 21 SEE THE REVENUE STAY IN INAUDIBLE CITY COLLEGE, ESPECIALLY 22 SOMETHING LIKE LOGISTICS AND AIRFARE. WE CAN HAVE A 23 COUPLE STAFF IN CITY COLLEGE DO SOME OF THIS WORK AND MAKE 24 THAT ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS OR SOMETHING. I JUST WANTED TO 25 PUT THAT OUT THERE. AUGUST 26, 2010 154 1 MS. LOW: I THINK WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, AND WE 2 WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND THE CHANCELLOR. 3 THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE WE REQUIRED TO PICK 6 THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE BIDDER ON THIS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT 7 THE LOWEST. IT ISN'T THE LOWEST. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: IT IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE 9 CONTRACT. 10 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE ANSWER IS, NO? 11 MS. LOW: I DON'T THINK WE ARE REQUIRED TO PICK 12 THE LOWEST. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU ARE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, 14 COUNSEL, BUT THE TAPE IS NOT GOING TO PICK UP A HEAD 15 SHAKE. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THIS IS NOT CONSTRUCTION 17 SERVICES. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT'S BECAUSE IT IS A 19 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, RIGHT? 20 YOU DON'T NEED TO GO WITH THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE 21 BIDDER. BUT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES SPECIALIZED SERVICES, THE 22 LOWEST RESPONSIVE BIDDER MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE BEST 23 PERSON TO DO THE JOB, SO THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THIS 24 EXCEPTION FOR NON-PUBLIC CONTRACTS. 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. AUGUST 26, 2010 155 1 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S WHAT SHE MEANT TO SAY. 2 MS. LOW: SO WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE 3 PROPOSALS, WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE THAN JUST THE DOLLAR 4 AMOUNT. WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT -- WE'VE HAD VENDORS WHO 5 WILL SAY, THESE ARE THE CITIES WE WANT TO GO TO. AND 6 THESE ARE THE ACTIVITIES WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO 7 PARTICIPATE IN, AND WE HAVE VENDORS WHO MAYBE WILL SUBMIT 8 A LOWER BID, BUT THEY'VE SUBMITTED A BID FOR ALL THE 9 CITIES WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO 10 SEND US TO THE MUSEUMS THAT WE WANTED TO GO TO. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: THEY COULD BE VERY SEEDY VENDORS, 12 RIGHT? AND THEY COULD HAVE A VERY BAD REPUTATION. AND 13 THEY CAN PRICE YOU REALLY LOW, AND YOU SEND THESE STUDENTS 14 OFF WITH THIS VENDOR OR THEY ARRANGE SOME SORT OF TRIP 15 THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT. 16 MS. LOW: RIGHT. WE REALLY TRIED TO CUSTOMIZE 17 OUR PROGRAM BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE STUDENTS, THE CLASS, 18 AND THE PROFESSORS. AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT TO JUST 19 GO WITH A PACKAGED PROGRAM. AND SOMETIMES WE WILL GET 20 BIDS WHERE IT'S JUST A PACKAGE PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE LIKE 21 GOING THIS DOES NOT REFLECT WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: CALL THE QUESTION. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 24 MS. LOW: ANYMORE QUESTIONS? 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I DON'T SEE WHY WE AUGUST 26, 2010 156 1 CAN'T PUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE RESOLUTION. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU MADE A MOTION AND IT'S 3 BEEN SECONDED. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I DIDN'T SECOND IT. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: I SECONDED IT. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THOUGHT YOU HAD. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I SECONDED ASSUMING HEARING HER 8 RESPONSE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: I SECONDED YOUR MOTION TO CALL 10 THE QUESTION. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT TAKES A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. 12 THAT'S ROBERTS RULES. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU KNOW WHAT, I WILL SECOND THE 14 AMENDMENT. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT IT COULD BE UP TO $100,000 17 FOR STUDENTS ON A TRIP TOTAL THAT THEY WOULD BARE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL WITHDRAW MY -- 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ARE YOU WITHDRAWING YOUR 21 AMENDMENT? 22 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. I AM AMENDING -- 23 MS. LOW: MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THE TOTAL -- 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE 25 BECAUSE IT'S OPEN-ENDED. YOU HAVE 26 PLUS. AUGUST 26, 2010 157 1 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO IF MORE PEOPLE DECIDED 3 TO GO, THEN -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: SO YOUR NUMBER IS NOT UP TO 26. 5 MS. LOW: NO. WE COULD HAVE 30 OR 36 GO SO THAT 6 IS MY CONCERN ABOUT HAVING A TOTAL AMOUNT OR HAVING 7 THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IS WHAT IF WE HAVE MORE THAN THAT 8 NUMBER GOING. 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT WILL EXCEED. 10 MS. LOW: THEN IT WILL EXCEED THAT NUMBER. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO THE AMENDMENT IS -- 14 TRUSTEE NGO: THE AMENDMENT IS THAT I AM A 15 COSPONSOR OF THIS RESOLUTION. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S ALL IT IS. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S IT AND HE CALLED THE 19 QUESTION. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF -- 21 TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE ON B4. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: B4 AS AMENDED, CORRECT? 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: PARDON ME? 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: B4 AS AMENDED AND 25 ADDITIONAL COSPONSOR, RIGHT? AUGUST 26, 2010 158 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO, JUST B4. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU DON'T NEED TO AMEND IT. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: IN SPIRIT. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): OKAY, AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B4, PLEASE 6 SAY "AYE." 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 15 B4 PASSES. 16 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION FOR P2, PLEASE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE RIZZO. 19 SECONDED BY -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND IT. 21 (TRUSTEE BERG LEAVES THE MEETING.) 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 23 THE ACADEMIC SENATE IS PASSING OUT SOMETHING. 24 DOES EITHER OF THE SPONSORS OF THIS WANT TO SAY 25 SOMETHING? AUGUST 26, 2010 159 1 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. YEAH, I MEAN I CHAIR THIS 2 COMMITTEE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION INTRODUCED, ALONG WITH A 3 SET OF -- A PACKAGE THAT WE OFFERED LATE LAST FALL. AND I 4 HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SHARED GOVERNANCE ON THIS. AND 5 BEFORE SCHOOL WENT OUT, I HEARD THAT THEY OPPOSED IT 6 ENTIRELY, NO EDITS, NO AMENDMENT, JUST OUT RIGHT, WHICH I 7 THOUGHT WAS KIND OF ODD. AND WE HAD ANOTHER HEARING, A 8 POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING, AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL, 9 IN WHICH I DIDN'T THINK THE REASONS ARTICULATED VERBALLY 10 ANYWAY WERE JUSTIFIABLE TO DICTATE TO THE BOARD THAT WE 11 SHOULDN'T ADOPT THIS POLICY. 12 NOW IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND, I ACTUALLY GOT THIS 13 LANGUAGE FROM A POLICY THAT GINNY RIEGEL GAVE TO US AS A 14 PROPOSED REVISION TO OUR BOARD POLICIES. SO LAST TIME I 15 CHECKED WE HAD HER WORK ON REVISING THE BOARD POLICIES FOR 16 ACCREDITATION PURPOSES. SO I TOOK IT LITERALLY FROM THAT 17 LANGUAGE, WHICH MIRRORS NOT AN INSTITUTIONAL CODE OF 18 ETHICS, BUT A BOARD CODE OF ETHICS THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW 19 THAT IT'S SIMILAR TO THIS LANGUAGE. 20 SO I SEE IN WRITING WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, BUT YOU 21 KNOW, AGAIN, THE LANGUAGE IS NOT -- IF IT WAS REJECTED 22 WITH AMENDMENTS, I WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN HEARING 23 WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY. IT WAS REJECTED OUTRIGHT VERBALLY, 24 AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. AND THIS LANGUAGE IS NOT 25 CONTROVERSIAL. AUGUST 26, 2010 160 1 WE HAVE A CODE OF ETHICS I IMAGINE FOR OUR 2 STUDENTS, WHICH IS NOT UNLIKE THIS. AND IF WE ARE GOING 3 TO APPLY THE SAME STANDARDS YOU'VE APPLIED TO THIS POLICY, 4 WE'VE GOT TO REVISE OUR STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT. AND IN 5 FACT, WE SHOULD REVISE OUR BOARD CODE OF CONDUCT, WHICH 6 ACTUALLY SAYS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS. 7 I AM WILLING TO HEAR YOU OUT -- 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHY DON'T WE -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: -- BUT I RECOMMEND THAT WE PASS IT 10 FOR A FIRST READING. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SUBSTANTIVE 11 AMENDMENTS TO THIS AS OPPOSED TO JUST REJECTING IT 12 OUTRIGHT, FINE, I WELCOME THAT. I WELCOMED THAT TO THE 13 VERY TWO MEETINGS THAT WE HAD FOR IT. I ASKED FOR IT. WE 14 DIDN'T GET IT. IT WAS A BLANKET DISMISSAL FOR THE POLICY. 15 THIS WILL BE REFERRED. I'M FINE WITH IT BEING 16 REFERRED BACK TO POLICY COMMITTEE. IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S 17 DO THAT. BUT IF IT DOESN'T CHANGE SUBSTANTIVELY, I EXPECT 18 IT TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO AND THEN -- 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S VERY SHORT. I JUST 21 WANTED TO READ IT FOR PEOPLE'S BENEFIT. 22 IT SAYS, "ALL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES MAINTAIN HIGH 23 STANDARDS OF ETHICAL CONDUCT. DISTRICT EMPLOYEES SHALL: 24 "ONE, ABIDE BY DISTRICT POLICIES, PROTOCOLS AND 25 REGULATIONS. AUGUST 26, 2010 161 1 "TWO, RESPECT OTHERS AND ACT WITH CIVILITY. 2 TREAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND COLLEAGUES WITH 3 COURTESY AND RESPECT. 4 "THREE, ENSURE AN ATMOSPHERE IN WHICH 5 CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES CAN BE PRESENTED FAIRLY IN WHICH THE 6 DIGNITY OF EACH INDIVIDUAL IS MAINTAINED." 7 THAT'S THE PROPOSAL. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: KAREN SAGINOR. 9 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 10 PRESIDENT. 11 SO TREATING PEOPLE WELL IS A REALLY GOOD THING 12 TO DO. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO TREATING PEOPLE WELL. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE. 14 MS. SAGINOR: THE PROBLEMS AGAIN HAVE TO DO WITH 15 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES I THINK. I WOULD LIKE TO READ 16 WHAT THE REASONS WERE FOR WHY WE RECOMMENDED THE BOARD OF 17 TRUSTEES NOT ADOPT THE PROPOSED POLICY. 18 THE REASONS ARE: NO. 1, THE FIRST ITEM IS 19 ALREADY DISTRICT POLICY. ACTUALLY, THE FIRST ITEM IS 20 SELF-REFERENTIAL, BUT BASICALLY WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ABIDE 21 BY DISTRICT POLICIES. 22 THE SECOND AND THIRD ITEMS DO NOT PROVIDE 23 DEFINITIONS OF WHAT KINDS OF BEHAVIORS ARE OR ARE NOT 24 CIVIL, COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL. 25 IT SAYS, AN APPROPRIATE AND ENSURED ATMOSPHERE AUGUST 26, 2010 162 1 IN WHICH CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES -- THE CHARACTERISTICS OF 2 WHAT AN APPROPRIATE ATMOSPHERE WOULD BE ARE NOT SPECIFIED. 3 AND THEN THE ABSENCE OF THIS SPECIFIC DEFINITION 4 SUGGESTS THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS OR WHAT IS NOT CIVIL, 5 RESPECTFUL, ET CETERA. BUT THIS IS A CULTURALLY 6 INSENSITIVE ASSUMPTION. 7 IN SOME CULTURES, IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO SPEAK 8 LOUDLY OR TO INTERRUPT ANOTHER SPEAKER. IN OTHER 9 CULTURES, INTERRUPTIONS OR LOUD VOICES ARE DISRESPECTFUL. 10 WHOSE CULTURAL STANDARDS WOULD BE APPLIED BY 11 THIS POLICY? THAT'S NOT AT ALL CLEAR. 12 WHO WILL DECIDE WHETHER AN ATMOSPHERE ENSURED 13 THE DIGNITY OF EACH INDIVIDUAL? AND I WILL ADD TO WHAT'S 14 WRITTEN HERE. 15 SO IF SOMEONE SAYS, THAT WAS DISRESPECTFUL. AND 16 SOMEONE ELSE SAYS, THAT WASN'T DISRESPECTFUL. THAT WAS 17 FINE. HOW WOULD THAT BE ADJUDICATED. WE DON'T GET ANY 18 GUIDANCE FROM THIS POLICY. 19 NO. 4, THE OBJECTION THAT WAS MADE LAST SPRING 20 WAS THIS POLICY SAYS THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEMBERS 21 MUST BE TREATED WITH COURTESY AND RESPECT, BUT IT DOESN'T 22 ALSO ENJOIN THAT BOARD MEMBERS MUST TREAT OTHERS WITH 23 COURTESY AND RESPECT. WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE -- 24 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU DIDN'T MAKE OR OFFER ANY 25 PROPOSALS TO CHANGE THIS LANGUAGE. YOU REJECTED IT AUGUST 26, 2010 163 1 OUTRIGHT. 2 SO WHAT YOU ARE BRINGING UP NOW ACTUALLY IS WHAT 3 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HEARD AND ANY AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD 4 HAVE MADE, I WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED, BUT YOU DIDN'T. THERE 5 WAS NO FEEDBACK. THERE WAS JUST AN OUTRIGHT OBJECTION. 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT 7 ON THAT. 8 MS. SAGINOR: SHOULD I CONTINUE OR WOULD YOU 9 LIKE ME TO SIT DOWN? 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. 11 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THIS POLICY DOESN'T COVER MY 13 CONDUCT IN HERE, RIGHT? SO MY CULTURAL SENSITIVITY IS A 14 LITTLE DIFFERENT MAYBE. 15 MS. SAGINOR: I THINK YOU ARE ACTUALLY HELPING 16 ME MAKING MY POINT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK I AM. I'M MAKING MY 18 POINT. 19 MS. SAGINOR: THE LAST ONE WAS THAT THE POLICY 20 LACKS SPECIFIC SANCTIONS FOR NON-COMPLIANCE. MIGHT AN 21 EMPLOYEE BE FIRED FOR FAILING TO ACT WITH CIVILITY. THE 22 POLICY IS SILENT ON POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES AND THIS WOULD 23 BE I BELIEVE AN ISSUE FOR OUR FOLKS AT AFT 2121 ALSO. 24 SO THIS IS THE REASONS -- 25 (TIMER SOUNDS.) AUGUST 26, 2010 164 1 -- WHY WE WOULD WANT LIKE THIS TO BE -- 2 TRUSTEE WONG: LET HER FINISH. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING. 4 MS. SAGINOR: MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING. IF I 5 COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THE ISSUE ABOUT WHY 6 REVISIONS WEREN'T SUGGESTED. AND THAT IS TO BE HONEST, WE 7 HAVE SO MUCH WORK TO DO. WE WOULD BE HAPPY FOR YOU TO 8 REWRITE THE POLICY AND BRING IT BACK TO US. WE DIDN'T 9 REALLY SEE AN EASY WAY TO FIX THIS POLICY TO MATCH, TO 10 DEAL WITH THE OBJECTIONS THAT WE HAD. AND WE WOULD RATHER 11 THAT YOU REWROTE A POLICY THAT DIDN'T HAVE THESE PROBLEMS. 12 THANK YOU. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: LET ME ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. SO 14 THERE ARE -- EVERY SINGLE -- IF YOU SURVEY THE POLICY 15 MANUAL, MANY OF THEM DON'T HAVE ANY CONSEQUENCES, EXPLICIT 16 CONSEQUENCES FOR FAILURE TO ABIDE BY THAT POLICIES. 17 DO YOU REJECT THOSE POLICIES AS WELL? 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: NO, JUST GO ON. DON'T -- 19 MS. SAGINOR: I DON'T WANT TO -- 20 TRUSTEE WONG: THIS IS NOT AN INTERROGATION. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRY NOT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION 22 BACK AND FORTH LIKE THIS. THIS IS NOT ALL THAT HELPFUL. 23 I'D RATHER FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE 24 POLICY COMMITTEE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M HAPPY TO REFER IT TO POLICY AUGUST 26, 2010 165 1 COMMITTEE. IT'S BEEN THERE. THEY DON'T WANT TO -- 2 THERE'S NO RESPONSE. THEY WANT US TO REVISE IT. I DON'T 3 THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REVISED. 4 BUT I AM HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY 5 ABOUT IT AT THE POLICY COMMITTEE. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT 6 IT THERE IN MORE DETAIL. HOPEFULLY, COURTEOUSLY AND WITH 7 SOME CIVILITY. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU ARE ASKING US TO -- I JUST 9 WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN I AM CLEAR. YOU ARE ASKING US TO NOT 10 PASS THIS, TO HAVE IT GO BACK TO A POLICY COMMITTEE, IF 11 THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD CHOOSES TO DO, AND TO FIGURE OUT A 12 WAY TO REFLECT YOUR CONCERNS IN WHATEVER RESOLUTION THAT 13 HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO US FOR A POLICY. 14 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING US? I JUST WANT TO 15 MAKE CERTAIN THAT THAT IS WHAT IT IS. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: WE ALREADY PASSED IT AT THE FIRST 17 READING. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. 19 MS. SAGINOR: THERE'S ONE MORE THING ACTUALLY I 20 WANTED TO ASK, BUT I KNOW I AM OUT OF TIME, SO I CAN GET 21 MY COLLEAGUE TO ASK IT. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: JUST ASK IT. 23 MS. SAGINOR: AND THAT IS, IF YOU DECIDE TO PASS 24 IT, FIRST READING, SECOND READING, WHATEVER, IN SPITE OF 25 THE FACT THAT WE'VE RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT PASS IT, THEN AUGUST 26, 2010 166 1 YOU NEED TO GIVE US YOUR REASONS IN WRITING. IF YOU'VE 2 DECIDED TO DISREGARD THE ADVICE GIVEN TO YOU BY THE 3 ACADEMIC SENATE ON THIS MATTER, YOU NEED TO RESPOND IN 4 WRITING AS TO WHY YOU ARE DISREGARDING OUR -- 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: THAT'S THE OBLIGATION 6 WHENEVER -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT'S A 8 DISTRICT POLICY AND REGULATION THAT I AM ASKING. THAT'S 9 ACTUALLY BEEN IN POLICY. SO, YES, I EXPECT US TO ABIDE BY 10 THAT POLICY. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I MAKE A REQUEST? 12 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: RATHER THAN VOTING ON THIS 14 TONIGHT, CAN WE PUT IT BACK IN THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE I 15 THINK IT IS GOING TO CHANGE SUBSTANTIVELY. IT HAS A VERY 16 HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF CHANGING SUBSTANTIVELY. AND IF WE PASS 17 IT ON A FIRST READING NOW, SEND IT BACK, AND IT CHANGES, 18 AND THEN IT COMES BACK. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT THEY WANT IS DEFINITIONS OF 20 EVERY SINGLE WORD. THAT YOU'D HAVE TO DEFINE IN EVERY 21 SINGLE POLICY IN THIS DISTRICT. EVERY SINGLE POLICY 22 LANGUAGE YOU'VE GOT DEFINITIONS IN EVERY SINGLE POLICY 23 MANUAL, 1.0, THROUGH EVERYTHING WE'VE ADOPTED HAS TO CARRY 24 DEFINITIONS BY US. 25 THE STANDARD THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS AUGUST 26, 2010 167 1 UNREASONABLE. SO IF YOU WANT US TO ABIDE AN UNREASONABLE 2 STANDARD, IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET PASSED BECAUSE WE HAVE 3 TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE POLICY AND GET IT -- YOU 4 HAVE TO DEFINE EVERY SINGLE WORD IN OUR POLICY MANUAL. 5 IN FACT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE THAT GOVERNS 6 AN ISSUE, THE WORDS HAVE TO BE DEFINED. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: MY -- 8 TRUSTEE NGO: THE STANDARD THAT THEY ARE 9 IMPOSING ON THE BOARD TO CREATE POLICY THAT ITS THE ONE 10 JOB THEY AGREE WE HAVE AND WE ARE CHARGED WITH. IT'S AN 11 UNREASONABLE BURDEN. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET US TO 13 DO HERE IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS NOT AN ENORMOUS TIME 14 PRESSURE TO DO THIS PARTICULAR POLICY. WE ARE TRYING TO 15 MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE HAVING A COLLEGIAL RELATIONSHIP 16 WITH THE ACADEMIC SENATE. 17 I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD PREFER IT TO BE DONE 18 IN A DIFFERENT WAY BEFORE IT CAME HERE, BUT I DON'T SEE A 19 PARTICULAR POINT IN PUSHING THIS RIGHT NOW AT THE COST OF 20 HARMING A RELATIONSHIP. 21 IF YOU INSIST ON US GOING TO A VOTE, WE CAN DO 22 THAT. I PREFER IT GO BACK TO COMMITTEE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: PRESIDENT MARKS, LET ME SAY THIS. 24 YOU CAN REFER IT BACK. I WILL ACCEPT YOUR 25 ADVICE, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT EVERY SINGLE POLICY WE'LL AUGUST 26, 2010 168 1 BE PASSING FROM THIS POINT ON, I EXPECT THE SAME STANDARDS 2 TO BE APPLIED TO EVERY SINGLE POLICY. EVERY SINGLE WORD 3 DEFINED IF THAT'S THE STANDARD THEY ARE EXPECTING THE 4 BOARD TO UPHOLD. 5 IF THEY ARE QUESTIONING WHAT CIVILITY MEANS, 6 WHAT RESPECT MEANS, THE ACT OF CIVILITY AND TREATING 7 COLLEAGUES AND TRUSTEES WITH COURTESY AND RESPECT, WE 8 SHOULD REVISE THE STUDENT CONDUCT CODE. WE SHOULD REVISE 9 EVERY SINGLE POLICY WITH THOSE WORDS. EVERY SINGLE WORD 10 THAT IS SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION MISINTERPRETATION OR 11 INTERPRETATION BY THEIR STANDARD NEEDS TO BE DEFINED. 12 AND IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT, LET'S DO IT 13 CONSISTENTLY. EVERY SINGLE POLICY THAT WE HAVE IS GOING 14 TO BE REVIEWED BY THIS BOARD, WHETHER IT'S WORKFORCE, 15 WHETHER IT'S LOCAL HIRE, WHATEVER IT IS. LET'S APPLY THE 16 SAME STANDARD. AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT 17 YOU ARE GOING TO ACCEPT. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, HAL, DID YOU WANT TO 19 SPEAK? 20 MR. HUNTSMAN: NOT IF YOU ARE GOING TO TABLE IT. 21 I WILL SAVE IT FOR ANOTHER DAY. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: HE'S NOT GOING TO TABLE IT. HE'S 23 GOING TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: I KNOW YOU'D RATHER NOT HAVE 25 IT GO BACK TO COMMITTEE WITHOUT A VOTE. AUGUST 26, 2010 169 1 TRUSTEE NGO: THERE'S NO REASON WHY IT CAN'T 2 PASS THE FIRST READING BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BECOME 3 POLICY. AND IF IT GETS REVISED, IT WILL HAVE TO GO BACK 4 FOR ONE AND TWO MEETINGS ANYWAY. 5 BUT THE STANDARD THAT THEY JUST ASKED THE BOARD 6 AMENDMENT -- THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO UPHOLD IS AN 7 UNREASONABLE ONE. AND I AM CALLING IT LIKE I SEE IT. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: I UNDERSTAND THAT. I AM 9 TRYING NOT TO FORCE IT TO GO TO COMMITTEE. LET'S TAKE A 10 VOTE ON IT. I PERSONALLY AM NOT GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF 11 THIS. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: PRESIDENT MARKS, CAN YOU 13 DEFINE WHAT A FIRST READING IS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: POLICY RESOLUTION REQUIRE TWO 15 READINGS. THEY ARE THE ONLY RESOLUTIONS WE DO THAT 16 REQUIRE TWO READINGS. THEY ARE TO INFORM THE PUBLIC THAT 17 THE BOARD IS INTENDING TO CHANGE POLICY. AND THE SECOND 18 READING IS TO ADOPT THAT POLICY. IT GIVES -- BECAUSE OF 19 THE POWER INVOLVED -- 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I THINK YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE 21 QUESTION. SO WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS A FIRST READING 22 SUPPOSED TO -- WHAT'S THE -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT'S THE LEGAL EFFECT OF A FIRST 24 READING? 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. AUGUST 26, 2010 170 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS 2 REQUIRED UNDER OUR -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LEGAL 3 REQUIREMENT. WE REQUIRE IT TO COME OUT TWICE. IF THERE'S 4 SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES BETWEEN THE TIME WE VOTE ON THE FIRST 5 READING AND THE TIME IT COMES TO US FOR A SECOND READING, 6 THEN PEOPLE CAN SAY THE FIRST READING DIDN'T REALLY COUNT 7 BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY CHANGES. I THINK THE IDEA IS TO 8 GIVE PEOPLE THAT MUCH GREATER OPPORTUNITY TO THIS CHANGE. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T 10 DISAGREE WITH YOUR PROCESS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU 11 KNOW, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CODES OF ETHICS AND 12 CIVILITY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO CHANGE THE SPIRIT OF 13 CIVILITY. SO EVEN IF YOU ARE GOING TO AMEND SOME OF THIS 14 STUFF, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO PRETTY FAR TO CHANGE 15 WHAT CIVILITY -- TO CHANGE THE SPIRIT OF -- BECAUSE IT IS 16 A VERY SIMPLE POLICY. AND BECAUSE IT IS SO SIMPLE, IT'S 17 REALLY HARD TO CHANGE IT. SO IF YOU GET A FIRST READING 18 PASSED AND SENT TO COMMITTEE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 19 DIFFERENCE IS -- 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE COULD -- 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- WITH THAT COMPARED TO WHAT 22 YOU JUST SUGGESTED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: WE CAN DO THAT. MY GUESS -- 24 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF INFORMATION. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD. AUGUST 26, 2010 171 1 TRUSTEE NGO: DO WE HAVE A SHARED GOVERNANCE 2 DOCUMENT THAT GOVERNS THE ACADEMIC SENATE THAT'S IN BOARD 3 POLICY? 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: AND IS EVERY TERM -- 6 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT DOESN'T GOVERN THE ACADEMIC 7 SENATE. IT RELATES TO IT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. IS EVERY TERM IN THAT 9 LANGUAGE DEFINED? DID WE DEFINE EVERY SINGLE TERM BEFORE 10 WE ADOPTED THAT DOCUMENT? 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: I THINK YOU ARE KIND OF 12 BELABORING A POINT HERE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: DOES THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT 14 HAVE DEFINITIONS OF THE CONDUCT OR LANGUAGE WE ARE USING 15 IN THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT AS A PREFACE TO THE CONDUCT 16 THAT WE ARE ASKING -- 17 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT MARKS. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: CHANCELLOR, DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER 19 TO THAT? 20 DOES THE STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT HAVE 21 DEFINITIONS OF EVERY SINGLE WORD IN THAT CODE OF CONDUCT? 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE WONG. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A COURT OF 25 LAW. THIS IS A COLLEGE. COLLEGIALITY SHOULD BE FIRST AND AUGUST 26, 2010 172 1 FOREMOST. 2 I THINK THAT PRESIDENT MARKS IS TRYING TO NOT 3 ALLOW THIS TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL BY SENDING IT BACK TO 4 COMMITTEE. 5 WE ARE TALKING AROUND AN ISSUE HERE. AND THE 6 ISSUE IS THAT THIS IS PERCEIVED AS CONFRONTATIONAL. 7 CLEARLY, THAT'S HOW IT IS PERCEIVED. TO GET AROUND THAT, 8 WE NEED TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE ALL PARTIES CAN COME 9 TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT IT AND NOT MAKE THE ASSUMPTION 10 WELL, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE FIRST READING AND HAVE THE 11 OPPORTUNITY TO DO LATER ON ANYWAY, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 12 IT IS ALMOST CREATING A SITUATION WHERE YOUR 13 BACKING CERTAIN GROUPS AGAINST THE WALL. AND THAT'S NOT 14 WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE WONG. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: LET ME FINISH. WHAT WE WANT TO 17 DO IS CREATE A COLLEGIAL SITUATION THAT WILL ALLOW THE 18 PARTIES TO COME TOGETHER. WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE THIS 19 IS GOING TO BEAR FRUIT OR NOT IS BESIDE THE POINT. THE 20 POINT IS THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE THIS COLLEGIALITY. 21 EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY SAY THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO DO 22 THAT, IT CLEARLY IS NOT BEING PERCEIVED AS AN ATTEMPT TO 23 DO THAT. AND WE NEED TO GO WITH THAT PERCEPTION. 24 SO THEREFORE, I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD 25 ACCEDE TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD AND AUGUST 26, 2010 173 1 TO HAVE IT SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE SO THAT ALL PARTIES CAN 2 COME TOGETHER TO HAVE A MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION. 3 THERE IS NO BIG RUSH. RUSHING INTO THIS WILL 4 CREATE A CONTROVERSIAL SITUATION THAT I THINK WILL CREATE 5 UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF ILL FEELINGS. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF ORDER. THIS WAS NOT A 7 RUSH. THIS INTRODUCED LAST NOVEMBER. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S NOT THE POINT. WHETHER OR 9 NOT IT WAS -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AND -- 11 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU'RE STILL DEFENDING IT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. WHAT I AM TRYING TO 13 SAY IS THAT THE PERCEPTION IT CAN BE SO UNREASONABLE YOU 14 ACCEPT IT ON THIS PERCEPTION. WHEN THIS LANGUAGE WAS OUT 15 THERE, I'VE ASKED FOR AN AMENDMENT, AND THEY ARE ASKING ME 16 TO BASICALLY DO SOMETHING THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: WHICH THEY KNOW. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: WE HAD THE SITUATION -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT, I WILL CALL THE 21 QUESTION. I WANT A ROLL CALL VOTE. THAT'S FINE IF IT 22 FAILS. BUT EXPECT THAT THE SAME STANDARD WILL BE APPLIED 23 TO EVERY SINGLE THING WE WILL BE DEALING WITH FROM THIS 24 POINT FORWARD. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, AUGUST 26, 2010 174 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON, BECAUSE I WANT TO GO ONTO THE VOTE 2 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE ON FROM THIS. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: CALL THE QUESTION. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: TRUSTEE NGO, MY HAND WAS 5 ALREADY UP. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT MARKS, IT WAS. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'S THAT 8 MUCH MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR 9 RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT GOING TO CALL ON EVERYBODY 10 ELSE. I WANT TO DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE THAT TRUSTEE NGO 11 HAS SUGGESTED. AND I WANT TO MOVE ON. 12 AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE BOTH THE ACADEMIC SENATE 13 AND THE CHAIR OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY 14 OF WORKING TOGETHER ON SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK 15 TO US. THAT IS MY -- 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, POINT OF ORDER. 17 POINT OF ORDER. THE CHAIR CANNOT UNILATERALLY CUT OFF 18 DEBATE PER ROBERTS RULES. 19 ARE YOU SAYING YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CALL ON THE 20 NEXT -- 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE BEEN 22 TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR MORE THAN A HALF AN HOUR. 23 TRUSTEE RIZZO, GO AHEAD. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MOVE TO EXTEND DEBATE TIME 25 FOR ANOTHER TEN MINUTES. AUGUST 26, 2010 175 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD 2 DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT WHICH I AM NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE 3 UNIMPORTANT IN ANY RESPECT WHATSOEVER. WE ARE NOT TALKING 4 ABOUT EDUCATION. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT REALLY TO ME 5 THE REALLY SERIOUS THINGS. WE ARE TALKING MORE ABOUT 6 THINGS THAT CONGENIAL. THEY ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THEY 7 CONGENIAL. 8 AND I WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF HAVING 9 US DEVOTE MORE CONVERSATION AND MORE DISCUSSION AND MORE 10 ANALYSIS AND OBSERVATION ON EDUCATIONAL MATTERS THAN WE DO 11 ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS. 12 TRUSTEE RIZZO, GO AHEAD. 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THERE'S ONE POINT I 14 WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE. IT IS THAT THE POLICY LACKS 15 SPECIFIC SANCTIONS FOR NON-COMPLIANCE. AND I WAS JUST 16 LOOKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, JUST RANDOM PICKING OUT OUR 17 BOARD POLICIES, AND I DIDN'T FIND ANY THAT LISTED 18 SANCTIONS FOR NONCOMPLIANCE. I MEAN THERE'S ONE THAT 19 SAYS -- THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT SAY THE CHANCELLOR WILL DO 20 THIS AND THE CHANCELLOR WILL DO THAT. IT DOESN'T SAY 21 ANYTHING THAT THE CHANCELLOR DOESN'T -- 22 I MEAN THE POLICIES ARE GUIDELINES. THEY ARE 23 NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE -- 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: THEY ARE PROCEDURES. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THEY ARE AUGUST 26, 2010 176 1 PROCEDURES. THEY ARE NOT LAWS. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE FANG, DID YOU WANT TO 3 SAY SOMETHING? 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT 5 MARKS. 6 FIRST I STRONGLY URGE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THE 7 MESSAGE IT IS SENDING BY CALLING THE QUESTION AND PASSING 8 THIS. NOT TO SAY, TRUSTEE NGO, ISN'T CORRECT. WHAT I AM 9 SAYING THOUGH IS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS AUTOMATICALLY 10 AN ESTEEMED POSITION WITHIN THE COLLEGE BECAUSE OF THE 11 AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE. THEREFORE, ANYTHING WE DO SENDS A 12 MESSAGE AUTOMATICALLY. THAT NEEDS TO BE CAREFULLY 13 CONSIDERED BECAUSE AS A STUDENT TAKING CLASSES, WE FEEL 14 THAT MESSAGE. WE PERCEIVE IT AS A MESSAGE. 15 SECOND, TO TRUSTEE NGO'S POINT, IF WE ACCEPT THE 16 SUGGESTION OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE, THEREFORE IT MUST BE 17 APPLIED TO EVERY OTHER CODE OF CONDUCT. IT'S A SLIPPERY 18 SLOPE. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT. IT MEANS WE 19 REMAIN COLLEGIAL AND ALL PARTIES GET INVOLVED SO ALL SIDES 20 WIN. THAT IS MY COMMENTS. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE WONG, DID YOU WANT TO 22 SAY SOMETHING? 23 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. I AM JUST AGREEING WITH HIM. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: FRANCINE PODENSKI, ARE YOU 25 OKAY? DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? AUGUST 26, 2010 177 1 MS. PODENSKI: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. 2 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND YOU TOO. 3 MS. PODENSKI: I AGREE THAT SUCH POLICY WOULD BE 4 A GOOD POLICY TO HAVE. I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE THESE 5 SORTS OF POLICIES. BUT WITHOUT MENTIONING MOMENTS IN OUR 6 PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN MOMENTS AT BOARD 7 MEETINGS WHEN MANY PARTIES ON THE BOARD AND FROM THE 8 COMMUNITY FELT THAT THEY WERE DISRESPECTED. AND IT WAS 9 THE SAME SITUATION, ONLY BOTH PARTIES FELT EQUALLY 10 DISRESPECTED. AND BECAUSE OF THOSE EXPERIENCES, I BELIEVE 11 THAT THE ACADEMIC SENATE WHO HAS BEEN SOMETIMES IN THOSE 12 POSITIONS, FEELS CAUTION. 13 YOU KNOW HOW COULD WE MOVE FORWARD AND CREATE 14 SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS IN OUR MULTICULTURAL 15 COMMUNITY. 16 AS TEACHERS, WE DEAL WITH THIS EVERY DAY IN THE 17 CLASSROOM. WE HAVE TO LEARN THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE IN YOUR 18 FACE, AND IT'S NOT DISRESPECTFUL. AND SOME PEOPLE WHO 19 HARDLY SPEAK HAVE TO BE DRAWN OUT, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT 20 FOR THEM. I MEAN WE DEAL WITH THIS EVERY DAY. AND WE 21 DEAL WITH DISCIPLINE ISSUES THAT SOMETIMES HAVE TO HAVE A 22 THIRD PARTY COME IN AND HELP US MEDIATE THE SITUATION 23 EFFECTIVELY SO THAT THERE IS A WIN/WIN. SO I THINK WE CAN 24 COME UP WITH SOMETHING. 25 I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF I'M NOT AUGUST 26, 2010 178 1 MISTAKEN THIS POLICY WAS DISCUSSED. I THINK IT WAS AT THE 2 COMMITTEE MEETING. VERY FEW PEOPLE ATTENDED. IT WAS 3 TOWARD THE END OF THE SEMESTER. AND SO THERE'S BEEN A 4 WHOLE SUMMER WHEN PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING ON THESE 5 THINGS. I THINK IF WE START WORKING EARLY THIS FALL AND 6 WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN SURELY COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT 7 SATISFIES ALL PARTIES. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: PRESIDENT MARKS, POINT OF 9 INFORMATION. 10 FRANCINE. 11 MS. PODENSKI: YEAH. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I HEARD 13 KAREN SAY. KAREN SAID THAT WE WANT YOU TO WRITE THIS AND 14 THESE ARE STANDARDS. YOU SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WHICH 15 WAS WE CAN WORK TOGETHER THIS FALL AND CRAFT SOMETHING. 16 THAT TO ME IS A DIFFERENT RESPONSE THAN WHAT KAREN HAD 17 SAID. SO IF YOUR POSITION, IF YOU SPEAK FOR -- 18 MS. PODENSKI: I SPEAK FOR MYSELF. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: FINE. FINE. 20 MS. PODENSKI: I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE 21 FACULTY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM MORE AMENABLE TO THAT 23 POSITION THEN SAYING WE ARE TOO BUSY. YOU DO IT. AND 24 HERE ARE THESE STANDARDS YOU HAVE TO MEET. SO IF THE 25 EXPECTATION IS FRANCINE'S EXPECTATION, I'M FINE WITH THAT. AUGUST 26, 2010 179 1 IF IT'S KAREN'S EXPECTATION THAT WE DO ALL THE 2 WORK WHICH IS FINE, BUT HERE'S THIS EXPECTATION THAT YOU 3 HAVE TO DEFINE EVERYTHING. I THINK IT IS A LITTLE 4 UNREASONABLE. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: CHOOSE TO INTERPRET IT IN A 6 POSITIVE WAY. 7 MS. PODENSKI: YEAH. I THINK EVERYBODY -- 8 TRUSTEE WONG: BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES HERE 9 TO CHOOSE -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: THE LANGUAGE WAS VERY EXPLICIT. 11 IT WAS -- 12 TRUSTEE WONG: CHOOSE IT AND THEN WE MOVE 13 FORWARD. IT'S SIMPLE. 14 MS. PODENSKI: YEAH. KAREN IS IN A DIFFICULT 15 POSITION BECAUSE SHE IS SPEAKING FOR A BODY. I AM JUST 16 SPEAKING FOR ME AS A PERSON AS AN INDIVIDUAL FACULTY 17 MEMBER. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE -- 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. 19 (TRUSTEE GRIER LEAVES THE MEETING.) 20 MS. PODENSKI: THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN POSITION 21 THAT -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON 23 THIS. 24 MS. PODENSKI: -- WE ARE -- 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AUGUST 26, 2010 180 1 ON THIS. 2 MS. PODENSKI: OKAY. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT MARKS, YOU HAVE 4 TRUSTEES LEAVING. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE ARE ALL ABOUT. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: WELL, WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. PLEASE. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO TRUSTEE NGO WANTED TO HAVE 8 A ROLL CALL VOTE. SO WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: I AM VOTING, NO. 14 TRUSTEE WONG. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU FORGOT TO ASK THE STUDENT 17 TRUSTEE FIRST. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. I'M 19 SORRY. I WAS JUST GOING THIS WAY. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE? 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): I'M NAY. NO. 25 NAY. AUGUST 26, 2010 181 1 PRESIDENT MARKS: IT'S A SURPRISE THAT IT CAME 2 OUT THAT WAY. THEN IT FAILS. IT DOES NOT PASS ON THE 3 FIRST READING. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: THIS IS RIDICULOUS. 5 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR S2, 6 PLEASE. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 8 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECOND THE BY TRUSTEE FANG. 11 ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT S2? 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: DIDN'T WE VOTE THIS DOWN 13 ONCE? I'M JUST WONDERING WHY IT CAME BACK. 14 PRESIDENT MARKS: I DON'T THINK JOHN BILMONT IS 15 HERE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THOUGHT WE VOTED NOT TO 17 PASS THIS AT ONE TIME. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: LET'S FIND OUT WHY ITS COME 19 BACK TO US. 20 WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE VOTED THIS 21 DOWN BEFORE. AND IF WE DID, WHY IT'S COMING BACK. 22 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER 24 THAT? 25 CFO BILMONT: I AM GOING TO DEFER TO THE AUGUST 26, 2010 182 1 CHANCELLOR ON THIS. AND CERTAINLY ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY 2 HAVE OR HE MAY HAVE. 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THERE WERE A NUMBER OF 4 PERSONS IN THE DISTRICT WHO HAD THESE TYPES OF CARDS. AND 5 WE VOTED AT ONE POINT TO NOT DO IT. AND SO WE REMOVED ALL 6 THESE INDIVIDUALS I BELIEVE. 7 CFO BILMONT: THAT IS CORRECT, EXCEPT FOR -- 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF -- 9 CFO BILMONT: -- CHILD DEVELOPMENT. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- CHILD DEVELOPMENT. 11 CFO BILMONT: RIGHT. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND THIS POINT -- AND I 14 STILL DO NOT HAVE ONE. I DO NOT WISH TO HAVE ONE. 15 HOWEVER, IT HAS GIVEN SOME HARDSHIP IN THE OFFICE IN TERMS 16 OF REQUESTS TO DO THINGS FOR STUDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR 17 EVEN IN SOME CASES EVEN BOARD MEMBERS AS A POSSIBILITY. 18 SO THIS IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, THE 19 EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT IN THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE GOHAR, 20 WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE ARE 21 ASKING FOR. 22 CFO BILMONT: AND CHANCELLOR, IF I MAY. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PLEASE. 24 CFO BILMONT: I'M NOT SO SURE I WOULD USE THE 25 WORD EXCEPTIONS. THERE'S JUST SOME TRANSACTIONS IN THE AUGUST 26, 2010 183 1 21ST CENTURY THAT RUN FASTER, BETTER, MORE EFFICIENTLY, 2 AND MORE ACCURATELY, AND ACTUALLY SUPPORT A COMPLIANCE 3 POSITION THAT ARE DONE WITH CREDIT CARDS. SO IN THIS 4 CASE, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS COVERS THAT RANGE OF 5 TRANSACTIONS. 6 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE BOARD, IF THEY LOOK AT 7 THE BACK PAGE OF THIS. THIS IS A LETTER THAT WE HAVE HAD 8 HISTORICALLY IN THE RECORDS. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T BRING IT 9 FORWARD THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS. I THINK THIS IS 10 A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WAS LEFT OUT OF 11 PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS AS TO HOW WE GOVERN THE USE OF CREDIT 12 CARDS AND HOW WE EXPLAIN AND DEFINE THEIR USES. 13 AND SO I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE -- 14 IT'S ON THE BACK OF THE PAGE OF THE RESOLUTION. TAKE A 15 LOOK AT THAT ALSO TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE LIMITS OF 16 THIS. 17 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO, DID YOU HAVE 18 ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? 19 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE 21 QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? 22 TRUSTEE NGO: SOME DEFINITION QUESTIONS. 23 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THE SECOND LEVEL APPROVERS, 25 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AUGUST 26, 2010 184 1 CFO BILMONT: THE FIRST AND SECOND LEVEL 2 APPROVERS ARE PEOPLE THAT -- I'M JUST CHECKING HERE. THE 3 FIRST LEVEL OF APPROVAL WOULD BE THE CHANCELLOR AS THE 4 DIRECT SUPERVISOR. AND HE WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY SAYING, 5 OKAY, THE TRANSACTIONS THAT WENT THROUGH ON THE CARD THIS 6 WEEK ARE REASONABLE. AND I CONCUR WITH THEIR 7 AUTHORIZATION AND THEIR REQUEST TO THE REQUISITIONING 8 PROCESS. 9 THE SECOND LEVEL OF APPROVERS LOOK AT THE 10 PROPRIETY AGAIN OF THE TRANSACTIONS RELATIVE TO THE 11 DEFINITIONS ON THE BACK OF THE AGREEMENT LETTER. ALSO 12 MAKE SURE THAT THE AMOUNTS ARE REASONABLE, AND THAT THE 13 PAPERWORK BEHIND IT IS FOLLOWED UP ON. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: ARE THEY ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE 15 SAME PERSON EACH TIME OR ARE THEY DESIGNATED BY TITLE? 16 CFO BILMONT: THEY SHOULD BE DESIGNATED BY 17 TITLE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THE TITLES ARE NOT LAID OUT 19 HERE IN THIS RESOLUTION. 20 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I CONCUR 21 WITH THAT. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WE ARE GIVING RANK AND 23 AUTHORITY FOR THE SECOND LEVEL APPROVERS, WHOEVER THEY 24 ARE, THEY ARE UNDEFINED. 25 CFO BILMONT: NO. AUGUST 26, 2010 185 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 2 CFO BILMONT: WELL, ACTUALLY THE TITLES ARE IN 3 HERE. IT'S THE SECOND LEVEL APPROVERS ARE THE VICE 4 CHANCELLOR OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATOR OR THE CHIEF 5 FINANCIAL OFFICER. IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE (INDICATING). 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT'S ALWAYS SECOND LEVEL 7 APPROVERS? 8 CFO BILMONT: YES. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S IT. 10 CFO BILMONT: YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 12 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I GUESS MY PROBLEM IS THE 13 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THIS DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OF THESE 14 RESTRICTIONS, SUCH AS NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OR WHATNOT. 15 SO THAT RESOLUTION IF PASSED COULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR 16 THOSE THINGS. 17 CFO BILMONT: ACTUALLY, IN THE FOURTH PARAGRAPH 18 DOWN, "EACH DISTRICT EMPLOYEE WHO HOLDS A CREDIT CARD HAS 19 SIGNED AN 'EMPLOYEE-DISTRICT COLLEGE CREDIT CARD 20 AGREEMENT' (SEE ATTACHMENT) WHICH FURTHER DEFINES THE USE 21 AND LIMITATIONS OF THIS CARD. THESE AGREEMENTS ARE 22 LOCATED AT THE DISTRICT BUSINESS OFFICE. DISTRICT 23 ACCOUNTING STAFF REVIEWS THE CREDIT CARD STATEMENTS ON A 24 MONTHLY BASIS AND THIS EMPLOYEE'S SUPERVISOR AUTHORIZES 25 THE CHARGES VIA WRITTEN SIGNATURE." AUGUST 26, 2010 186 1 SO IT WOULD BE SIGNED BY THE CHANCELLOR AND THEN 2 IT COMES OVER TO THIS OFFICE AND THEN ONE OF THE SECONDARY 3 APPROVERS MUST ALSO SIGN OFF. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: WAS THIS -- SO THE MEMO WAS 5 ATTACHED TO -- IS IT PART OF RESOLUTION THEN OR IS IT 6 GOING TO BE -- WHERE IS THIS GOING TO BE REFERENCED? 7 CFO BILMONT: WHERE IS -- 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE 9 GUIDELINES. ARE THEY DISTRICT POLICY? 10 CFO BILMONT: ACTUALLY, THEY ARE DISTRICT 11 POLICY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THEY ARE EMBEDDED IN DISTRICT 13 POLICY. 14 CFO BILMONT: YES, THEY ARE. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: EVERYTHING IN HERE, THE CHARGE 16 SLIPS, SUSAN QUAN'S NAME, THE SECOND AGREEMENT. 17 CFO BILMONT: ERIC WONG AND SUSAN QUAN ARE NOT 18 NAMED IN THE POLICY NOW. BUT NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, NO 19 TIPS, NO NON-BUSINESS LUNCH COSTS AND NO PERSONAL -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THESE -- THE FOUR THEY ARE 21 ALLOWED THE NON-ALLOWABLE EXPERIENCES. THEY ARE EMBEDDED 22 IN DISTRICT POLICY. 23 CFO BILMONT: YES. I CAN SEND YOU THE WEB LINKS 24 TOMORROW AND THEY'LL REFERENCE RIGHT IN. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM AUGUST 26, 2010 187 1 WITH PUTTING THESE IN THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION THEN? 2 CFO BILMONT: ACTUALLY, NO. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT. 4 CFO BILMONT: OKAY. 5 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL MOVE THAT. 6 CFO BILMONT: WE CAN AMEND IT. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE MOVED. 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'LL SAY THAT THIS CARD 9 WILL NOT ALLOW THE FOLLOWING CHARGES AND THEN THE FOUR 10 BULLET ITEMS. 11 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT'S 12 ACCURATE. THE CARD -- YOU COULD CHARGE THE THINGS ON THE 13 CARD, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE REIMBURSED. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS 14 IS NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T TIP. IF YOU TIP, YOU CANNOT CLAIM 15 THAT AS REIMBURSABLE -- 16 CFO BILMONT: TRUSTEE MARKS IS CORRECT. I MEAN 17 WE COULDN'T STOP SOMEONE FROM INADVERTENTLY OR BY DESIGN 18 OR BY ACCIDENT SWIPING THE CARD OR CHARGING SOMETHING OUT 19 THAT'S NOT REIMBURSABLE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, A PERSON WENT 21 SHOPPING. IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING THAT DO NOT USE 22 THE CARD FOR PERSONAL SHOPPING? IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH 23 PUTTING THAT? 24 CFO BILMONT: THEY SHOULD NOT USE IT FOR 25 PERSONAL SHOPPING. IN THE EVENT THAT THEY PICKED THE AUGUST 26, 2010 188 1 WRONG ONE OUT OF THEIR WALLET, LET'S SAY, OR SOMETHING AND 2 THEY CHARGED SOMETHING, THEY WOULDN'T BE REIMBURSED FOR 3 IT. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CHARGE 5 PERSONAL EXPERIENCES ON THERE. 6 CFO BILMONT: NO. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THEY WON'T BE REIMBURSED. 8 CFO BILMONT: THEY WON'T BE REIMBURSED. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IT IS A DISTRICT CREDIT CARD, 10 RIGHT? 11 CFO BILMONT: YES. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'VE MISSPOKEN. IT IS NOT A 13 QUESTION OF REIMBURSEMENT. 14 CFO BILMONT: RIGHT. 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF GOHAR PAYS FOR IT AND USES 16 THE CREDIT CARD AND PAID FOR SOME EXPENSE, SHE'S NOT 17 PUTTING IN FOR REIMBURSEMENT. IT'S GOING AGAINST A BUDGET 18 LINE ITEM OF THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE, RIGHT? 19 CFO BILMONT: THAT IS CORRECT. 20 PRESIDENT MARKS: SO WHEN I SAID EARLIER THAT 21 THIS DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN'T TIP, IT'S SAYING THAT THOSE 22 AREN'T ALLOWED ON THIS CREDIT CARD. 23 IF THE CHANCELLOR WANTED TO TAKE SOMEBODY TO 24 LUNCH ON A BUSINESS EXPENSE, HE COULD TAKE THE PERSON TO 25 LUNCH, BUT IF THEY CHOSE TO DRINK AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, AUGUST 26, 2010 189 1 HE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE CARD IS NOT FOR ME. 3 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M USING YOU AS AN EXAMPLE. 4 CFO BILMONT: TRUSTEE MARKS, TECHNICALLY, I 5 WOULD SAY, YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. THE DISTRICT NEEDS TO 6 RECOVER UNALLOWABLE COSTS. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: EXACTLY. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON, GO AHEAD. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED 10 BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AT VARIOUS LENGTHS 11 ONCE OR TWICE ALREADY. AND I DON'T KNOW OF THE APPETITE 12 OF THE BOARD IN LIEU OF OTHER PREVIOUS INCIDENTS, NOT 13 WITHIN THIS INSTITUTION, BUT OTHER INSTITUTIONS. I MEAN I 14 JUST THOUGHT THAT WE HAD TAKEN A VOTE ON THIS. SO I AM A 15 LITTLE CONCERNED HOW WHEN WE VOTE THINGS DOWN OR WE 16 CLEARLY MANDATE THIS MIGHT NOT BE OUR CUP OF TEA, HOW THEY 17 GET BACK ON THE AGENDA -- 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: CAN I -- 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- AFTER WE -- IS IT AN 20 EMERGENCY? IS THIS POLICY AN EMERGENCY? 21 BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN SEE HOW THIS 22 GOT BACK ON THE AGENDA. 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: I WILL LET YOU ANSWER. I AM 24 TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. AND I WANT EVERYONE TO 25 UNDERSTAND IT. WE WILL USE GOHAR AGAIN FOR THE EXAMPLE. AUGUST 26, 2010 190 1 GOHAR HAS THE CREDIT CARD. SHE GOES OUT AND 2 PURCHASES "X". GOHAR CALLS UP THE COMPANY THAT IS SELLING 3 ITEM "X" AND PLACES AN ORDER FOR ITEM "X" AFTER WHICH 4 THERE'S A CHECK WRITTEN TO THE COMPANY. WHAT'S THE 5 DIFFERENCE? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TRANSACTION? 6 THERE'S A CERTAIN LEVEL OF BUDGET AUTHORITY THAT 7 THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE HAS AND IT CAN'T EXCEED THAT. 8 IT'S JUST PAYING FOR IT WITH A CREDIT CARD WHICH IS PAYING 9 FOR IT WITH A CHECK. I'M NOT CERTAIN I UNDERSTAND THE 10 DIFFERENCE. 11 CFO BILMONT: I THINK IT'S THE CONVENIENCE OF 12 TIMING. FOR EXAMPLE, AND I THINK THIS IS A CLASSIC 13 EXAMPLE. IF THERE'S SOME TRAVEL, AUTHORIZED TRAVEL THAT 14 THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO ENGAGE IN, YOU CAN CALL THE 15 TRAVEL AGENT AND TRY TO SCHEDULE TEN DAYS IN ADVANCE AND 16 MAKE SURE YOU CUT A CHECK OR YOU CAN PUT ON THE CREDIT 17 CARD TEN DAYS IN ADVANCE. HOWEVER, IF THE AUTHORIZED 18 TRAVEL COMES UP 24 HOURS BEFORE SOMEONE HAS TO LEAVE AND 19 IT'S ON A FRIDAY, THE TRAVEL AGENT MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE 20 AND SO THE INDIVIDUAL PUTS IT ON THEIR OWN CREDIT CARD OR 21 SOME OTHER MEDIUM OR THEY MIGHT BE LOOKING AT HOTEL 22 ARRANGEMENTS IN ADVANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S 23 THE DIFFERENCE. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS THERE 25 ANY GREATER CONCERN -- SHOULD WE BE ANY MORE CONCERNED AUGUST 26, 2010 191 1 ABOUT A CREDIT CARD BEING USED TO PAY FOR SOMETHING VERSUS 2 A CHECK IN TERMS OF FRAUD AND ABUSE? 3 CFO BILMONT: YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD -- I WILL BE 4 HONEST. I'VE HAD FINANCE AID CHECKS COME BACK. WE GET 5 ONE OR TWO OR THREE OF THOSE A YEAR IN TERMS OF A 6 FRAUDULENT SUBMISSION. NOW WE DO A LOT OF ACH DEPOSITS 7 FOR FINANCE AID AND THAT HAS BEEN REDUCED. BUT YOU CAN 8 CHECK THE POLICE RECORDS AT THE COLLEGE. WE GET 9 FRAUDULENT CHECKS TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR. 10 WITH CREDIT CARDS, I DON'T THINK THE RISK OF 11 FRAUD IS ANY GREATER THAN SOME OTHER MEDIUMS. IF THE 12 INDIVIDUAL IS CAREFUL ON HOW THEY HANDLE IT -- 13 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM GOING TO ONCE AGAIN 14 MOVE THAT WE SAY VERBATIM WHAT IT SAYS HERE JUST TO PUT IT 15 IN THE RESOLUTION, THE FOLLOWING ARE NOT ALLOWABLE 16 EXPENSES AND THEN THE FOUR BULLET POINTS. BECAUSE IF 17 PEOPLE OR THE PUBLIC ARE LOOKING AND BROWSING OUR 18 RESOLUTIONS ON THE WEBSITE, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE 19 POLICIES. WE SHOULDN'T MAKE THEM GO LOOK UP THE POLICIES. 20 IT'S JUST CLEAR. WE PUT A LINE THAT SAYS THE FOLLOWING 21 ARE, YOU KNOW, VERBATIM OF WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SIGNING. I 22 DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S -- 23 PRESIDENT MARKS: WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO SECOND 24 THAT? 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. AUGUST 26, 2010 192 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: CALL FOR THE QUESTION. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT 4 THE AMENDMENT? 5 TRUSTEE NGO. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT I WANTED TO GET TO ABOUT THIS 7 SECOND LEVEL APPROVER IS THAT THAT'S NOT A DISTRICT 8 POLICY. THAT YOU TWO ARE SECOND LEVEL APPROVERS EMBEDDED 9 IN A POLICY. THIS IS JUST AUTHORIZED IN THIS RESOLUTION. 10 SO SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO SCAN AND FIND THIS 11 RESOLUTION THREE YEARS FROM NOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, LOOK 12 FOR AN S2. IF THIS CREDIT CARD IS GOING TO SURVIVE PASS 13 GOHAR, RIGHT? 14 CFO BILMONT: RIGHT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: OR PASS YOU OR PETER, NO ONE IS 16 GOING TO KNOW WHO THE SECOND LEVEL APPROVER IS. 17 CFO BILMONT: WELL -- 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OR YOU MAY NOT BE AROUND, SO WHO 19 IS GOING TO BE THE SECOND LEVEL APPROVER. 20 CFO BILMONT: I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD THAT YOU 21 BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THIS DOES FIT INTO THE CONTEXT OF 22 THE AUTHORIZATION MATRIX WHICH WE ARE WORKING ON 23 CURRENTLY, WHICH IS COMING TO YOU, I BELIEVE ON 24 SEPTEMBER 22ND. 25 NOW IN REALITY, THE DISTRICT DOES HAVE SECONDARY AUGUST 26, 2010 193 1 LEVEL APPROVERS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT 2 DEPARTMENT CHAIRS WILL FORWARD TO THEIR VICE CHANCELLOR OR 3 THEIR DEAN REQUISITIONS. AND THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY SAYING, 4 HERE, PLEASE APPROVE THESE TRANSACTIONS. AND THEY FILL 5 OUT THE TPA, AND THEY SEND IT INTO THE DISTRICT BUSINESS 6 OFFICE AND THEN EITHER ALICE OR ONE OF THE DEANS WILL LOOK 7 AT IT, AND THEY SIGN OFF ON IT, AND THEN THEY SEND IT OVER 8 HERE. 9 WHEN THAT COMES IN FOR PAYMENT AGAIN, THE 10 ACCOUNTS PAYABLE STAFF REVIEWS THAT AGAIN. AND SO THERE 11 IS AT LEAST TWO LEVELS OF REVIEW THAT GO INTO THESE 12 THINGS -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: ALL RIGHT. SO THEN -- 14 CFO BILMONT: -- WHICH IS BEING ENSHRINED IN THE 15 AUTHORIZATION MATRIX WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT THERE. SO 17 WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS YOU ARE BACK BECAUSE IT MIGHT 18 GET STUCK IN SHARED GOVERNANCE. BUT WHAT I AM TRYING TO 19 SAY IS YOU HAVE THIS VERY SPECIFIC RESOLUTION WITH YOUR 20 SPECIFIC NAMES ON IT AND GOHAR'S SPECIFIC NAME ON IT. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: WITHOUT A POLICY THAT GOVERNS 23 PEOPLE BEYOND YOU. 24 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YOU ARE RIGHT. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: NOW WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS AUGUST 26, 2010 194 1 THAT THE SECOND LEVEL APPROVER, WHAT I WAS GETTING AT 2 BEFORE, WAS THAT IF IT'S POLICY THAT'S SPECIFIED IN 3 POLICY, MAYBE IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT'S FINE, BUT WE DON'T 4 HAVE A POLICY FOR THAT. 5 AND I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE REJECTED THESE 6 CREDIT CARDS, I SAID WHEN YOU OPEN THE CREDIT CARDS, THERE 7 IS NO GOVERNING POLICIES TO WHO GETS THEM OR WHO CHOOSES 8 TO THEM OR QUALIFIES AND WHAT GOVERNS THEIR PURCHASES OR 9 HOW WE MAKE SURE THERE'S NO UNALLOWABLE EXPENSES THAT WE 10 HAVE TO GO IN AND GET LATER, RIGHT? 11 SO THAT'S MY PROBLEM WITH THIS. IT'S NOT THE 12 LANGUAGE PER SE. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IT'S THE METHOD AT WHICH WE 15 ARE TRYING TO GOVERN FINANCIAL BEHAVIOR, ESPECIALLY CREDIT 16 CARD USAGE AT THE DISTRICT. 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: MAYBE I MISHEARD YOU, TRUSTEE 18 NGO, BUT ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF WE ONLY REFERENCE THE 19 TITLES OF THE POSITIONS AS TO WHO IS BEING ISSUED TO AND 20 WHO THE REVIEWERS ARE THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT AND THE 21 NAMES ACTUALLY SHOULDN'T BE RELEVANT TO THE ACTION. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: IT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT, BUT IT 23 IS STILL NOT IDEAL. 24 CFO BILMONT: AND THEN WE NEED A FOLLOW-UP 25 POLICY THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES CREDIT CARDS AND THEIR USE AUGUST 26, 2010 195 1 OR POLICY PREFERENCE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED FOR BEFORE WE 3 CAME BACK WITH A CREDIT CARD REQUEST, RIGHT? 4 CFO BILMONT: RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT INCLUDED LESLIE SMITH'S 6 CREDIT CARD. THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT CREDIT CARD. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE NEED A POLICY BEFORE WE 8 PASS THIS. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE NEED A POLICY BEFORE WE 10 HAVE -- 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SURE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: (INAUDIBLE) SO WE CAN GET THIS. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE WILL BRING YOU A POLICY 14 FIRST READING NEXT MONTH. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AND THEN THE SECOND READING AND 17 THEN BRING THIS RESOLUTION. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 19 CFO BILMONT: OKAY. 20 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO WE HAVE TO VOTE TO 21 TABLE THIS I THINK? 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: YOU HAVE TO WITHDRAW YOUR 23 AMENDMENT. 24 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S WITHDRAWN. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: AND SOMEBODY HAS TO MOVE TO AUGUST 26, 2010 196 1 TABLE THIS. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE TO TABLE. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE RIZZO. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING 8 S2, PLEASE "AYE." 9 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: (ABSENT.) 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 14 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 17 THAT PASSES. 18 TRUSTEE BERG AND TRUSTEE GRIER ARE NOT HERE FOR 19 THAT VOTE. 20 CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR S3, PLEASE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 22 PRESIDENT MARKS: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 TRUSTEE NGO. AUGUST 26, 2010 197 1 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I WANT TO THANK THE 2 PRESIDENT FOR INDULGING THE TIMING OF THE RESOLUTION. I 3 LEARNED THAT MY PREVIOUS APPOINTEE HILARY SLEDGE HAD MOVED 4 TO THE EAST BAY. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE 5 OBVIOUSLY WHO LIVES IN SAN FRANCISCO. 6 THIS OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT SPEAK TO HER, 7 MS. SLEDGE'S, SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMITTEE. 8 SHE ENJOYED THE WORK VERY MUCH. AND I THINK SHE MADE AN 9 EXCELLENT CONTRIBUTION AND WAS HAPPY TO SERVE. 10 I AM NOMINATING SHEILA BAPAT IN HER PLACE WHO IS 11 EQUALLY QUALIFIED AND EAGER TO MAKE HER CONTRIBUTION TO 12 THE COMMITTEE TO FULFILL THE REMAINDER OF MS. SLEDGE'S 13 TERM. SHE HAS AN ARRAY OF EXPERIENCE HERE THAT I THINK IS 14 VERY USEFUL THAT MAY BE MISSING ON THE OVERSIGHT 15 COMMITTEE, PERHAPS ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND THE 16 COLLEGE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH HER BACKGROUND HER 17 INTEREST IN EDUCATION AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS ISSUES. 18 I THINK SHE WOULD BE A REMARKABLE ADDITION. I 19 WOULD ENCOURAGE -- AND WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO VOTE FOR HER 20 NOMINATION. THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT MARKS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON S3? 22 IF NOT, STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S3, 25 PLEASE SAY "AYE." AUGUST 26, 2010 198 1 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: (ABSENT.) 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT MARKS: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 6 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: ANYBODY OPPOSED? 9 SO TRUSTEES WONG, GRIER, AND BERG ARE MISSING 10 FROM THAT. 11 THAT'S THE END OF THE AGENDA. I WANTED TO MAKE 12 A POINT ABOUT "FOR INFORMATION ONLY" ITEMS ON HERE. AND I 13 THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THESE PAGES IN THE FUTURE 14 TO INCLUDE A REFERENCE TO A POLICY WE PASSED NOT TOO LONG 15 AGO THAT IT'S NOT -- IT SAYS, "FOR INFORMATION ONLY, NO 16 ACTION NECESSARY." I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD SAY THAT. 17 I THINK IT SHOULD SAY, "FOR INFORMATION ONLY" 18 THAT THIS DOESN'T CONSTITUTE ANY ACTION. I THINK IT HAS 19 TO HAVE SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE LIKE THAT BECAUSE TONIGHT I 20 SIGNED SOMETHING THAT PREDATED THE CHANGE OF POLICY. AND 21 I ASKED -- I SAID, I UNDERSTAND THIS PARTICULAR 22 FOUNDATION -- I WAS SIGNING A FOUNDATION GRANT ACCEPTANCE. 23 AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PARTICULAR 24 FOUNDATION REQUIRES AN AUTHORIZATION TO EVEN SUBMIT THE 25 GRANT. AND I SAID THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT. AND SO I WAS AUGUST 26, 2010 199 1 SHONE THE "FOR INFORMATION ONLY" PAGE SHOWING THAT WE IN 2 FACT DID. AND I SAID, WE DID NOT. 3 SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REINFORCE TO 4 EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS STRICTLY FOR INFORMATION, AND IT 5 DOES NOT CONSTITUTE ANY APPROVAL OR ACTION ON OUR PART. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I ANSWER THAT, MR. PRESIDENT. 7 PRESIDENT MARKS: GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE NGO. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THAT 9 POLICY WAS PASSED. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: RIGHT. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: IT HAD TWO READINGS AND IT WAS 12 VERY EXPLICIT IN SAYING THAT FIO DOES NOT MEAN 13 RATIFICATION. AND WE NEED, AS A DISTRICT, TO ABIDE BY 14 THOSE POLICIES. 15 MY RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE HAD -- OR WE WOULD 16 HAVE THESE FIO'S IN SOME FORM OF CONSENT HOW WE OFFICIALLY 17 HAVE $3,000 OR MORE OR $3,000 OR LESS. IT CAN EVEN BE 18 FRAMED THAT WAY. AND IT CAN BE APPENDAGED TO THOSE 19 RESOLUTIONS AND PLACED ON CONSENT AS OPPOSED TO 20 POTENTIALLY SIMPLY AN FIO WHICH CONTRADICTS OUR POLICY 21 THAT WE PASSED. THAT WAY WE DO HAVE A CHANCE TO -- WE DO 22 IN FACT RATIFY THEM IF WE NEED TO RATIFY THEM. AND IF WE 23 PULL THEM OFF AND PULL ONE PARTICULAR OFF, WE CAN DO THAT. 24 IT'S MY SUGGESTION. 25 PRESIDENT MARKS: MY FEELING IS THIS, THERE AUGUST 26, 2010 200 1 SHOULD BE NOTHING ON HERE THAT REQUIRES RATIFICATION. IT 2 SHOULD BE PURELY INFORMATION ONLY. BUT I THINK IT IS 3 WORTH THINKING ABOUT WHY THIS EVEN EXISTS ON OUR AGENDAS. 4 I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN I UNDERSTAND IT. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I KNOW THAT I WAS OUT FOR P2, 7 BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, JUST PUBLIC RECORD, I JUST WANTED 8 TO CUT MY VOTE AS AN "AYE" FOR RESOLUTION P2. 9 PRESIDENT MARKS: I'M NOT CERTAIN WE CAN CHANGE 10 THE VOTE. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, YOU WOULDN'T. BUT I JUST 12 WANTED THE RECORD TO REFLECT. 13 PRESIDENT MARKS: OKAY, THANK YOU. 14 DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE A REPORT? 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON AND THEN TRUSTEE NGO. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AS I THINK ONE OF OUR -- THE 17 PRESIDENT OF SOUTHEAST AND EVANS CAMPUS STATED, WE HAD A 18 WONDERFUL EVENT A WEEK AGO CELEBRATING ONE OF THE FIRST 19 TIMES WITHIN THIS YEAR THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE 20 COMMUNITY. WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH SOLAR CITY AND 21 PRESENT A PAID INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THROUGH CITY COLLEGE 22 WHERE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, THERE WILL BE A CLASS OF 23 25 STUDENTS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO GET TRAINING, THEIR BOOKS 24 WILL BE PAID, TRANSPORTATION COSTS WILL BE PAID AND ON TOP 25 OF THAT, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A PAID AUGUST 26, 2010 201 1 INTERNSHIP TO BECOME A SOLAR INSTALLER AND IT'S FOR 2 RESIDENTS IN BAYVIEW. 3 YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ENHANCES OUR 4 CAMPUSES, ESPECIALLY EVANS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES 5 CITY COLLEGE THAT MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE. 6 AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CHANCELLOR AND 7 THANK EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED, TRUSTEE RIZZO, AND THE 8 SOUTHEAST JOBS COALITION FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS A VERY 9 MEANINGFUL EVENT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY MEANINGFUL 10 PROGRAM. 11 AND WITH THAT I AM GOING TO CONCLUDE MY REPORT. 12 THANK YOU. 13 AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS 14 WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CIVILITY, I DEFINITELY HOPE THAT 15 WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT POLICY, THAT WE DO REMAIN 16 CIVIL IN THAT DISCUSSION. AND I HAVE EVERY HOPE THAT WE 17 CAN DO THAT, BUT I THINK IT CAME FROM A GOOD PLACE. THANK 18 YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: TRUSTEE NGO. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GREETING 21 SOME STUDENTS ON THE FIRST WEEK OF CLASSES AT VARIOUS 22 CAMPUSES. I WANT TO THANK LINDA SHAW FOR HELPING TO 23 ARRANGE THAT. AND, OF COURSE, THE DEANS AT THE VARIOUS 24 CAMPUSES. IT WAS A REAL PLEASURE SEEING THE STUDENTS IN 25 THE FIRST WEEK AND EVERYONE WAS VERY FOCUSED AND AUGUST 26, 2010 202 1 DETERMINED AS THEY SHOULD BE. 2 I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TOURING THE MULTI-USE 3 BUILDING, WHICH WAS AN AMAZING FACILITY AND WELCOME THE 4 GATEWAY TO STUDENTS -- GATEWAY TO COLLEGE COHORT IN THAT 5 FACILITY. AND THEY ALSO LOOKED VERY DETERMINED AND I TOLD 6 THEM THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN THE COLLEGE, LIKE EVERYONE 7 ELSE, ARE CHEERING THEM ON IN MAKING SURE AND HOPING THAT 8 THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL. 9 I WANT TO THANK THE DEANS AT JOHN ADAMS AND AT 10 SOUTHEAST, CHINATOWN IF JOANNE LOW IS STILL HERE. AND MY 11 TOUR OF OCEAN CAMPUS AND MISSION. 12 AND I WANT TO THANK AGAIN LINDA SHAW FOR 13 ARRANGING ALL OF THAT FOR ME. AND I WOULD REALLY 14 ENCOURAGE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO PAY SOMEONE A 15 VISIT. 16 I WAS VERY WARMLY RECEIVED BY SOME MEMBERS OF 17 FACULTY. THEY HAD NEVER SEEN A TRUSTEE BEFORE. AND I'M 18 SURE WE CAN ALL GO DOWN THERE AND COORDINATE IT AWAY, NOT 19 INTERRUPT CLASSES, BUT SAY, HELLO AND THANK THEM FOR ALL 20 THEIR WORK. AND THEY WERE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. AND I 21 WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL. AND YOU CAN DO THE SAME 22 SOME TIME THIS SEMESTER OR IN THE BEGINNING OF CLASSES 23 NEXT SEMESTER. THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 25 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I WANTED TO MENTION AUGUST 26, 2010 203 1 THE EVENT TRUSTEE JACKSON MENTIONED. THE OPENING CEREMONY 2 FOR THIS NEW PROGRAM FOR TRAINING LOW INCOME PEOPLE TO BE 3 SOLAR PANEL INSTALLERS. IT STARTED -- THE STORY IT 4 STARTED AS SOMETHING VERY UNPLEASANT, BUT IT TURNED OUT 5 INTO SOMETHING VERY GOOD. 6 IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF BOTH TRAINING FOR JOBS AND 7 CREATING THE JOBS THAT THEY ARE BEING TRAINED FOR BECAUSE 8 THIS CAME OUT OF THE GO SOLAR PROGRAM. MYSELF AND SOME 9 OTHER PEOPLE WERE LOBBYING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO 10 START THIS PROGRAM THAT GIVES PEOPLE REBATES FOR PUTTING 11 SOLAR POWER ON THEIR HOUSES. AND IT'S BEEN AN EXTREMELY 12 SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM IN THE TWO YEARS THAT IT'S BEEN 13 RUNNING. IT'S MORE THAN DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF SOLAR POWER 14 THAT'S GOING INTO SAN FRANCISCO. 15 AND AT THAT TIME ONE OF THE COMPANIES THAT WAS 16 LOBBYING FOR IT AT THE HEARINGS WAS SOLAR CITY. AND THEY 17 MADE SOME PROMISES AT THAT POINT THAT THEY LATER FOUND 18 THAT THEY COULD NOT KEEP REGARDING TRAINING. THEY WERE 19 GOING TO DO TRAINING. AND SO SUPERVISOR DALY, THIS WAS A 20 YEAR LATER, TOOK THEM TO TASK FOR IT AT A PUBLIC HEARING. 21 IT WAS A VERY UNPLEASANT KIND OF HEARING, BUT I WENT TO 22 SUPERVISOR DALY AND SAID, WHY DON'T WE MAKE SOMETHING GOOD 23 ABOUT THIS AND ASK SOLAR CITY TO JUST FUND A PROGRAM AT 24 CITY COLLEGE. AND SO HE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA AND 25 FULLY SUPPORTED IT. AND PHYLLIS MCGUIRE AND JERRY -- AUGUST 26, 2010 204 1 WHAT'S JERRY'S LAST NAME? 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BERNSTEIN. 3 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: BERNSTEIN, YEAH. AND THE 4 CHANCELLOR CAME TO ONE MEETING TOO, PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM 5 THAT MET THE NEEDS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY-BASED 6 ORGANIZATIONS WERE LOOKING FOR. IT GIVES THE STUDENTS A 7 STIPEND SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO LIVE ON WHILE 8 THEY ARE DOING THIS PROGRAM. 9 SOLAR CITY SAYS, THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST 10 PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE EVER SEEN, SOLAR TRAINING PROGRAM. 11 THEY ARE FUNDING IT. THEY ARE COMMITTED FOR TWO YEARS. 12 THEY ALSO DONATED A FAIRLY LARGE SOLAR ARRAY TO CITY 13 COLLEGE. IT'S ENOUGH TO POWER A HOUSE. IT'S BETWEEN TWO 14 AND THREE KILOWATTS. SO THAT'S ALSO PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. 15 SO IT WAS A GREAT ENDING JOBS AND JOBS TRAINING 16 FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MOST NEED IT. SO, YAY, TO CITY 17 COLLEGE. 18 PRESIDENT MARKS: TRUSTEE FANG. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, I WILL TRY TO KEEP 20 IT BRIEF. 21 FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL IN THE AUDIENCE FOR 22 STAYING THIS LONG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ONCE AGAIN. 23 I HAVE JUST A FEW THINGS TO SAY. AUGUST 13TH 24 AND 14TH I WAS HONORED TO ATTEND THE STUDENT TRUSTEE 25 WORKSHOP. IT WAS STATEWIDE. IT WAS HOSTED BY THE LEAGUE. AUGUST 26, 2010 205 1 I'VE TYPED UP THE REPORT OF THE NOTES I HAVE 2 INSTEAD OF TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT IT. BUT I DO WANT TO 3 TAKE AWAY FROM ONE THING WHICH I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE 4 SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION FOR WHAT WE DID FROM '09 TO '10 5 BECAUSE I ACTUALLY COMMUNICATED WITH MANY OTHER STUDENT 6 TRUSTEES WHERE THEY TOLD ME THEIR STUDENT DISTRICT HAD TO 7 GO THROUGH ROUNDS OF LAYOFFS AND LOSING PEOPLE, PAINFUL 8 DEPARTURES. AND YET, HERE IN OUR DISTRICT, I WAS PROUD TO 9 SAY, WELL, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN HERE. 10 SO THANK YOU, CHANCELLOR. THANK YOU EVERYONE 11 INVOLVED. 12 SECOND, CITY COLLEGE GIANTS NIGHT AS REPORTED 13 LAST MONTH HAS MOVED UP FARTHER BY ABOUT 12 DAYS TO 14 SEPTEMBER 17TH, SO I AM HERE TO INVITE AND URGE THE BOARD 15 TO HELP US SELL TICKETS. WE NEED TO SELL THEM. IT'S 16 MONEY FOR THE COLLEGE. SAVE THE CLASSES. 17 AND NO. 3, THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE WORKS THAT I 18 HAVE BEEN INFORMED TODAY THAT SEPTEMBER 18TH, THE DAY 19 AFTER THE COLLEGE NIGHT, THE PHILIPPIAN-AMERICAN PRESS 20 CLUB HAS APPROACHED THE SCHOOL TO DO A NOVEMBER ELECTION 21 CANDIDATE FORUM ON CAMPUS AT THE DIEGO RIVERA THEATER. IT 22 WILL BE INFORMATION ONLY, SO THERE WOULD BE NO POSITION 23 TAKEN. THEREFORE, IT WOULD BE A GOOD EVENT FOR MANY 24 CANDIDATES TO PARTICIPATE. WE HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM 25 FIONA MA AND LELAND YEE TO ATTEND ALREADY. SO PLEASE DO AUGUST 26, 2010 206 1 THINK ABOUT IT. YOU CAN ASK A CANDIDATE QUESTIONS ON 2 INFORMATION. 3 LASTLY, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE SPECIFICALLY TRUSTEE 4 NGO FOR VISITING A CAMPUS. I SAW HIM PUTTING THAT UP ON 5 HIS FACEBOOK. I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED. LIKEWISE, I 6 CONTINUED TO SAY THAT ALL TRUSTEES SHOULD COME TO CAMPUS 7 AND ENJOY OUR WONDERFUL ATMOSPHERE AND OUR VIBRANT 8 COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: THANK YOU. 10 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR 11 POLICY, WE WILL BE DISTRIBUTING THE BOARD'S 12 SELF-EVALUATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE ANNUALLY AT THE 13 NEXT MEETING. AND PAM MERY WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH THE 14 CONSTITUTE LEADERS TO GET YOUR INPUT INTO MAKING IT A 15 PROCESS THAT'S EASIER FOR YOU TO USE THEN IT WAS LAST 16 YEAR. THANK YOU. 17 CHANCELLOR. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO WELCOME EVERYONE BACK TO 19 THE COLLEGE FOR THIS YEAR. IT'S VERY EXCITING. IT'S OUR 20 75TH ANNIVERSARY. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF 21 CELEBRATIONS AND A LOT OF PARTICIPATION. 22 I DISCOVERED, AS I WAS WAITING IN THE SOCIAL 23 SECURITY OFFICE THE OTHER DAY, IT'S ALSO THEIR 75TH 24 ANNIVERSARY, 1935. THAT'S WHEN IT ALL BEGAN FOR SOCIAL 25 SECURITY. THAT'S SOMETHING TO REMEMBER. BUT OUR 75TH IS AUGUST 26, 2010 207 1 VERY EXCITING FOR US. AND WE WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO 2 PARTICIPATE AND GET INVOLVED IN. 3 THERE ARE TWO AREAS THAT WE REALLY NEED A LOT OF 4 INVOLVEMENT IN. ONE OF THEM IS THE A ACCREDITATION. AND 5 ANOTHER ONE IS THE STRATEGIC PLANNING. AND ACTUALLY, I 6 THINK THAT LOOKING AT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF 7 THE BUDGET THAT IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE BUDGET 8 DISCUSSIONS THAT WENT ON FOR SIX MONTHS RATHER THAN FOR A 9 FEW MONTHS, AND SO I WANT US TO KIND OF DUPLICATE THAT IF 10 POSSIBLE. 11 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WOULD SUGGEST TO 12 PRESIDENT MARKS THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD SET ASIDE AN HOUR FOR 13 MAYBE THREE OR FOUR BOARD MEETINGS TO DEAL WITH ACADEMIC 14 MATTERS. SO JUST AN HOUR TO DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH 15 ACADEMIC AREAS, SUCH AS ACCREDITATION. WE CAN HAVE A 16 PRESENTATION HERE AT THE BOARD TO TALK ABOUT IT OR 17 STRATEGIC PLANNING OR SOME OTHER TOPICS, PARTICULARLY 18 THOSE THAT ALLOW US TO SHOWCASE AND EXHIBIT ALL THE 19 EXCELLENT OUTSTANDING WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AT THE 20 COLLEGE. 21 I THINK TOO OFTEN WE DON'T SEE ENOUGH OF THAT AT 22 THIS LEVEL. AND THE PUBLIC, OF COURSE, WATCHING ON TV 23 PERHAPS DOES NOT GET THE FULL FLAVOR OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 24 THE CAMPUSES ARE VERY, VERY EXCITING. THERE'S A 25 LOT OF THEM AS YOU KNOW. MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS GO TO AUGUST 26, 2010 208 1 CAMPUSES. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY ALL COME TO THE OCEAN 2 CAMPUS. 3 SO SOLAR CITY, WE HAD A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS 4 OUT FOR SOLAR CITY. THAT WAS OUT AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS 5 AND EVANS CAMPUS. THOSE THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE 6 PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE OUTLYING CAMPUSES. 7 I THINK EVERYONE IS VERY THRILLED WHEN THE BOARD 8 COMES OUT. AND SO THERE'S AN OPEN INVITATION FOR BOARD 9 MEMBERS TO COME. I SUPPOSE THEY CAN'T ALL COME AT ONCE 10 BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT, BUT WE 11 CERTAINLY WANT PEOPLE TO COME OUT. 12 CIVILITY IS KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE 13 LOOKING AT THIS YEAR. WE WANT TO TRY TO NOT HAVE A REPEAT 14 OF SOME OF THE KINDS OF TENSION THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. I 15 THINK WE ARE ALL FOCUSED ON TRYING TO DO THAT THIS YEAR 16 AND BE VERY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE WE WANT OUR ATTENTION TO BE 17 FOCUSED ON REALLY TRULY ACADEMIC MATTERS THIS YEAR AND NOT 18 SO MUCH ON OTHER ISSUES. 19 HAVING SAID THAT, IT'S STILL IMPORTANT, AND I AM 20 GOING TO KEEP SAYING IT OVER AND OVER, WE ARE STILL IN A 21 FINANCIAL CRISIS IN THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY AND AT CITY 22 COLLEGE. OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE SUFFERED MANY YEARS OF 23 PERHAPS NO LAYOFFS, BUT THEY'VE SUFFERED IN TERMS OF THEIR 24 SALARIES AND THE FACT THAT THE DOLLARS THEY ARE TRYING TO 25 LIVE OFF OF ARE DOLLARS THAT HAVE IN A SENSE SHRUNK IN AUGUST 26, 2010 209 1 TERMS OF VALUE. 2 SO WE NEED TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET HERE AND 3 LOOK AT THAT, WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE 4 CAN'T -- IT WAS 2007 THE LAST TIME, I BELIEVE, THERE WAS A 5 STEP INCREASE IN THE COLLEGE, SO WE CAN'T JUST LIVE THAT 6 WAY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS DOWN. WE HAVE TO HAVE A MORE 7 SUSTAINABLE PLAN, WHICH MEANS THAT AS FAR AS THE BUDGET IS 8 CONCERNED, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY TAKE A VERY, VERY CRITICAL 9 LOOK AT THE BUDGET ITEMS AND HOW MONEY IS EXPENDED AT THIS 10 COLLEGE. 11 I STILL BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE AREAS WHERE WE 12 CAN ACTUALLY IMPROVE THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO DO WITH LAYING 13 OFF PEOPLE OR NOT ALLOWING OUR WORKFORCE TO HAVE ITS 14 PROPER STEPS AS TIME GOES BY. 15 SO I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY 16 IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND I HOPE WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION 17 START NEXT MONTH OR CERTAINLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF 18 MONTHS IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A 19 VERY LONG DISCUSSION. WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE ALL 20 THE BOARD'S PARTICIPATION IN IT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE 21 COLLEGE NEED TO PARTICIPATE. BUT I STILL WANT THE 22 EMPHASIS TO BE ON THE ACADEMIC MATTERS NOT SIMPLY A 23 BUDGET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 24 PRESIDENT MARKS: IF THERE ARE -- DOES ANYBODY 25 WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE MOMENT? AUGUST 26, 2010 210 1 I'M VERY TIRED. THAT DIDN'T COME OUT WELL AT 2 ALL. 3 IS ANYBODY INTERESTED IN ADDRESSING THE BOARD ON 4 ISSUES THAT WERE NOT BEFORE US EARLIER TONIGHT? 5 IF NOT, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ADJOURN TONIGHT 6 IN MEMORY OF FRANK TOWNSELL. 7 IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 8 VICE PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 10 PRESIDENT MARKS: WE CAN'T VOTE. WE CAN'T 11 ADJOURN. WE LOST OUR QUORUM. 12 SO IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN 13 HIS MEMORY AND THEN WE WILL SAY, GOOD NIGHT. 14 (A MOMENT OF SILENCE OBSERVED.) 15 PRESIDENT MARKS: GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE. IT IS 16 10:50. 17 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:50 P.M.) 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 AUGUST 26, 2010 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. DATED: SEPTEMBER 17, 2010 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 STATE OF CALIFORNIA