SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, MAY 24, 2012 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO GOUGH STREET CAMPUS 33 GOUGH STREET SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 DR. NATATLIE BERG 7 DR. ANITA GRIER 8 CHRIS JACKSON 9 STEVE NGO 10 JOHN RIZZO 11 LAWRENCE WONG 12 13 14 DR. PAMILA FISHER, INTERIM CHANCELLOR 15 SCOTT DICKEY, LEGAL COUNSEL 16 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MAY 24, 2012 3 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, MAY 24, 2012, 2 COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 6:34 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY 3 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, 33 GOUGH STREET, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD. 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MAY 24, 2012 4 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELCOME. THIS IS THE REGULAR 2 MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF CITY COLLEGE. 3 CAN WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 4 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, 6 PLEASE. 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: HERE. 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE WONG. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: HERE. 14 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE BERG. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: HERE. 16 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HERE. 18 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE NGO. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE. 20 COUNSEL DICKEY: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: HERE. 22 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE MARKS IS ABSENT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW HAVE 24 PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND 25 I HAVE TWO CARDS HERE. AND THE FIRST ONE IS LERONE MAY 24, 2012 5 1 MATTHIS. 2 MR. MATTHIS: YOU JUST SAID MY FULL NAME, LERONE 3 MATTHIS. I HAVE BEEN A STUDENT HERE FOR FOUR YEARS. 4 MY BIGGEST ISSUE I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS THE 5 LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR STUDENT TRUSTEE WHO WAS OUT 6 OF COMPLIANCE FOR BEING A -- BEING ON THE BOARD TO SERVE 7 ON THE BOARD. 8 IN ED CODE, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE -- YOU ARE 9 SUPPOSED TO HAVE FIVE OR SIX UNITS COMPLETED WITH A 2.0 10 GPA TO SERVE AS A BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEMBER, A STUDENT BOARD 11 OF TRUSTEE MEMBER. 12 WHAT I FOUND OUT THAT HE ONLY HAD THREE UNITS 13 COMPLETED. I BROUGHT IT THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND 14 THROUGH DEAN SANTOS, THROUGH DR. HUNNICUTT, AND THEN TO 15 LINDY MCKNIGHT. 16 AND UPON BRINGING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION, I 17 SHOWED THEM WHERE HE VIOLATED THE ED CODE AND THE HONOR 18 CODE SYSTEM FOR SERVING ON THIS BOARD, AND THAT WAS IN THE 19 FALL SEMESTER BECAUSE HE ONLY COMPLETED THREE UNITS. AND 20 I THINK DID NOT GET A 2.0 AVERAGE IN THOSE CLASSES, AND SO 21 HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED THEN. 22 BUT THEN THE FOLLOWING SEMESTER, WHICH IS SPRING 23 SEMESTER OF THIS YEAR, HE DROPPED BELOW THAT AVERAGE. AND 24 ACCORDING TO ED CODE, IF HE DROPS BELOW -- IF ANYONE 25 SERVING AS STUDENT TRUSTEE DROPS BELOW THAT AVERAGE, THEY MAY 24, 2012 6 1 SHOULD BE -- THEY SHOULD NOT SERVE AS STUDENT TRUSTEE. 2 AND THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD 3 THAT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HIM SERVING AT THAT POSITION. AND 4 SO AS A STUDENT TRUSTEE REPRESENTING ALL OF THE STUDENTS, 5 I CANNOT BE A STUDENT WORKER IF I DON'T HAVE A 2.0 GRADE 6 POINT AVERAGE AND SIX UNITS, SO I LOSE OUT. 7 SO WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT OR IF THERE CAN BE 8 ANYTHING DONE ABOUT IT IS WHY HE WAS ALLOWED TO STAY -- 9 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 10 MR. MATTHIS: -- IN THIS POSITION AND VIOLATE 11 CODE? 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 MR. MATTHIS: THANK YOU. 14 MILES FOLTZ. 15 MR. FOLTZ: FIRST OFF I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK 16 YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE VETERANS OF CITY COLLEGE. 17 I KNOW WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE 18 FOR VETERANS. IN TURN, I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO HELP YOU 19 GUYS OUT. 20 CURRENTLY, 12 MILLION OR SO IS BEING UNUTILIZED 21 THROUGH THE VETERANS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU 22 CAN TRY TO GET A HOLD OF THIS MONEY. 23 THE GI BILL PAYS OUT A MAXIMUM OF 17,500 PER 24 STUDENT OR PER VETERAN PER YEAR. CURRENTLY, OUT OF MY GI 25 BILL, IT'S PAYING THE SCHOOL $40. YOU'VE GOT 700 OR SO MAY 24, 2012 7 1 VETERANS USING THEIR BENEFITS AT THIS TIME. 2 ON TOP OF THAT VETERANS RECEIVE -- THE NATIONAL 3 AVERAGE FOR THE VETERANS STIPEND IN SAN FRANCISCO -- WELL, 4 THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS $600. AND IN SAN FRANCISCO IT'S 5 2742, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OVER THE NATIONAL AVERAGE 6 THAT'S DRIVING VETERANS AS FAR AS STOCKTON TO COME HERE TO 7 CITY COLLEGE. SO OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO 8 INCREASE. 9 SO WHAT I AM ASKING FOR IS SOME KIND OF TIERED 10 EDUCATION SYSTEM WHERE YOU COULD CHARGE ACCORDINGLY AND 11 THE VETERANS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT -- SOMEWHERE AROUND 12 FOUR TO $500 PER UNIT, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD COME UP 13 WITH IS $12 MILLION. 14 I AM ALSO ASKING FOR A DEAN TO TRY TO SUPERVISE 15 THIS PROCESS BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LARGE INFLUX. 16 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 IS THERE ANY -- 19 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SORRY, I JUST CAN'T 20 HELP IT. I WISH WE COULD. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR 22 ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA? 23 OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 24 THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 25 COULD I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MAY 24, 2012 8 1 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 26TH. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 5 SECONDED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 6 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 7 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL IN -- 11 TRUSTEE WONG: I AM ABSTAINING. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU ARE ABSTAINING? 13 TRUSTEE WONG: YES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG ABSTAINS. 15 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 16 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 20 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSTAINED.) 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 24 THE APRIL 26TH MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 25 I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL MAY 24, 2012 9 1 BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 29TH. 2 MOTION? 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 7 DISCUSSION? 8 PUBLIC COMMENT? 9 TRUSTEE WONG: I AM ABSTAINING. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU ARE ABSTAINING AGAIN, 11 TRUSTEE WONG. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSTAINED.) 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 23 THE MINUTES OF APRIL 29TH ARE APPROVED. 24 AND FINALLY, I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR THE 25 SPECIAL BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 10TH. MAY 24, 2012 10 1 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 5 DISCUSSION? 6 PUBLIC COMMENT? 7 TRUSTEE WONG: I AM ABSTAINING. 8 OKAY. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSTAINED.) 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 THE MAY 10TH MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 21 SO THIS IS OUR FOURTH BOARD MEETING IN A MONTH. 22 IT MIGHT BE A RECORD. 23 OKAY, WE WILL GO ON TO THE ADOPTION OF THE 24 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. 25 ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA? MAY 24, 2012 11 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: THERE ARE TWO CHANGES, 2 MR. PRESIDENT. 3 THE FIRST IS A WITHDRAWN RESOLUTION, S6, WHICH 4 IS RESTATED AS THE SPECIAL ITEM UNDER ROMAN NUMERAL VIII. 5 THE OTHER IS A REVISION TO -- WHICH ONE IS IT -- 6 YEAH, IT'S A REVISION TO RESOLUTION F2 RELATING TO THE 7 "AUTHORIZATION TO ESTABLISH SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR 8 POSITION STATED BELOW FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012-2013." 9 THE RESOLUTION INCLUDES THE AUTHORIZATION FOR 10 THE CREATION OF THE 0933 MANAGER V POSITION. THIS IS 11 DESIGNED TO HELP PEOPLE MOVE -- CERTAIN ADMINISTRATORS 12 MOVE FROM STRS TO SFERS. WE ARE ALREADY USING 0933 AS A 13 DESIGNATION SO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT WILL BE 14 FINDING A DIFFERENT NUMERICAL DESIGNATION. AND THAT WILL 15 BE BLANK DURING THE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF THAT 16 RESOLUTION. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 18 COUNSEL DICKEY: THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN WE NOT HAVE CONVERSATION 20 IN THE AUDIENCE. WE ARE JUST HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULT 21 TIME HEARING UP HERE. THANK YOU. 22 SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS 23 AGENDA? 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. MAY 24, 2012 12 1 SECOND? 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY VICE PRESIDENT 4 GRIER. 5 PUBLIC COMMENT? 6 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 18 OKAY, THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA IS ADOPTED. 19 WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS. 20 WE HAVE B RESOLUTIONS, B1, B2, B3, B4 AND B5. 21 IS THERE ANYONE ON THE BOARD OR IN THE AUDIENCE 22 WHO WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE B'S 1-5 FROM THE CONSENT 23 CALENDAR? 24 MR. YATES: PUBLIC COMMENT? 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. MAY 24, 2012 13 1 MR. YATES: IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE 3 PUBLIC COMMENT THEN WE WILL REMOVE IT FROM THE -- YOU 4 WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON B3? 5 MR. YATES: YES. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THEN WE WILL REMOVE B3 7 FROM CONSENT. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: B4. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B4 ALSO. 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YES. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 ANY OTHERS, COLLEAGUES? 13 OKAY, SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS B1, B2 AND B5. 14 IS THERE A MOTION? 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE TO ADOPT. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 19 THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON CONSENT ITEMS. SO, 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 23 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. MAY 24, 2012 14 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 2 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 6 OKAY, THE B CONSENT ITEMS, EXCEPT FOR THREE AND 7 FOUR ARE APPROVED. 8 THE C RESOLUTIONS ARE 1-4. 9 IS THERE A MOTION? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: SO DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON B3 AND 11 B4. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THOSE 13 UP AS WE GO THROUGH THE REGULAR AGENDA. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 16 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY VICE PRESIDENT 18 GRIER. 19 ARE THERE ANY OF THESE THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO 20 REMOVE, ANYONE ON THE BOARD OR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IF 21 THERE'S ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMENT ON THESE? 22 OKAY, HEARING NONE, STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 25 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. MAY 24, 2012 15 1 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 8 C1-4 ARE APPROVED. 9 WE NOW HAVE G HAVE 1-13, H1-3, HUMAN RESOURCES. 10 IS THERE ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO -- 11 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL MOVE IT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 15 WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE ANY OF THESE FROM 16 THE CONSENT CALENDAR? 17 ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC? 18 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 21 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. MAY 24, 2012 16 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 4 G'S 1-13, H1-3 ARE APPROVED. 5 AND THE LAST ONE IS S1, "APPROVAL OF 29 NEW 6 COURSES, 4 NEW COURSE OPTIONS, AND 10 NEW INSTRUCTIONAL 7 PROGRAMS RECOMMENDED BY THE COLLEGE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE." 8 WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE 9 CONSENT AGENDA? 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YES, PLEASE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THAT. 12 OKAY, THAT IS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE WILL 13 TAKE THAT UP AS A REGULAR RESOLUTION THEN. 14 OKAY, WE ARE THROUGH WITH THE CONSENT ITEMS. 15 THE NEXT ITEM IS VI DISCUSSION ITEMS. THERE 16 WERE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS, SO WE WILL MOVE TO -- ALL RIGHT, 17 THAT WAS VII. WE WILL MOVE TO VIII, SPECIAL ITEM. 18 COUNSEL, WOULD YOU READ THAT INTO THE RECORD. 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES, THE SPECIAL ITEM IS 20 ENTITLED, "PUBLIC HEARING UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 21 50075 ET SEQ. AND 54954.2 ON A PROPOSED TAX MEASURE TO BE 22 PLACED ON THE BALLOT FOR THE NOVEMBER 2012 GENERAL 23 ELECTION, WITH THE QUESTION: TO PROVIDE CITY COLLEGE OF 24 SAN FRANCISCO WITH FUNDS THE STATE CANNOT TAKE AWAY; 25 OFFSET BUDGET CUTS; PREVENT LAYOFFS; PROVIDE AN MAY 24, 2012 17 1 AFFORDABLE, QUALITY EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS; MAINTAIN 2 ESSENTIAL COURSES IN WRITING, MATH AND SCIENCE; PREPARE 3 STUDENTS FOR FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITIES; PROVIDE WORKFORCE 4 TRAINING IN NURSING, ENGINEERING, AND TECHNOLOGY; AND KEEP 5 COLLEGE LIBRARIES OPEN; SHALL THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY 6 COLLEGE DISTRICT LEVY A $76 OR $99 PER PARCEL ANNUALLY FOR 7 EIGHT YEARS REQUIRING INDEPENDENT AUDITS AND CITIZEN 8 OVERSIGHT? THE ITEM ALSO INCLUDES A PRESENTATION OF 9 RESULTS OF THE POLL REGARDING THE FEASIBILITY OF THE 10 PROPOSED PARCEL TAX AT THE NOVEMBER 2012 GENERAL ELECTION; 11 AND RESOLUTION 120524-S6 PROPOSING A PARCEL TAX AND 12 ORDERING AN ELECTION." 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 14 SO THERE IS A CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE -- 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YEAH. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THAT THE DISTRICT IS NOT 17 FUNDING IN ANY WAY THAT HAS HIRED -- 18 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: ACTUALLY, WE DO HIRE 19 THE POLL. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE PAID FOR THE POLL? 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE PAID FOR THE 22 POLL. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE PAID FOR THE POLL. THAT'S 24 RIGHT. AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING WE PAID FOR THE POLL. 25 THE POLL HAS BEEN CONDUCTED AND WE CAN -- WE MAY 24, 2012 18 1 WILL HEAR FROM MR. WHITEHURST WHAT THE RESULTS ARE. WE 2 HAVE THE OPTION, SHOULD WE WISH, TO VOTE TO PLACE THIS ON 3 THE BALLOT. WE HAVE LANGUAGE HERE SHOULD THE BOARD DECIDE 4 TO DO THAT. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TONIGHT. 5 ALSO, THIS IS THE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING FOR 6 THE TAX MEASURE. SO JUST TO SET THAT UP, WE WILL GO TO 7 MR. WHITEHURST. 8 MR. WHITEHURST: PRESIDENT RIZZO, TRUSTEES, GOOD 9 EVENING. 10 WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY 11 OF A PARCEL TAX FOR THIS NOVEMBER'S ELECTION. HAVING 12 WORKED WITH CITY COLLEGE CAMPAIGNS 1993, 2001, 2005, I AM 13 PROUD TO BE BACK TO HELP THE COLLEGE ONCE AGAIN FOR 14 REVENUE. 15 THE 2012 BALLOT, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, HAS BOTH ITS 16 BENEFIT AS WELL AS ITS CHALLENGES. THE BENEFIT IS THAT IT 17 IS A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR WITH A HIGH TURNOUT. CITY COLLEGE 18 HAS BEEN HAS BEEN A HUGE PART OF THE SAN FRANCISCO 19 ELECTORATE AND LANDSCAPE FOR YEARS. THAT ELECTION TURNOUT 20 WILL BE HELPFUL. 21 THE CHALLENGE OF THE RACE AND THIS ELECTION IS 22 THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON THE BALLOT, 23 BUT IN SAN FRANCISCO THERE IS A HISTORY ON PRESIDENTIAL 24 ELECTIONS TO DO WELL WHEN THERE'S A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 25 AND PASS TAXES OR BONDS. MAY 24, 2012 19 1 BEN TOLCHIN DID THE DATA COLLECTION AND THE 2 POLLING. HE WILL BE MAKING A BRIEF PRESENTATION. BUT 3 TRUSTEES, THE DATA IS CLEAR ON MOST OF IT AND NOT CLEAR ON 4 SOME OF IT. AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME 5 DECISIONS. 6 WHAT'S CLEAR IS THAT SAN FRANCISCO WILL TAKE A 7 PARCEL TAX FOR CITY COLLEGE. WHAT IS CLEAR THAT THEY WILL 8 DO IT THIS YEAR. WHAT'S CLEAR IS THAT YOU NEED A GOOD 9 CAMPAIGN TO GET THE WORD OUT AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION 10 AROUND THE ARGUMENTS OF WHY HAVE A PARCEL TAX. 11 HAVING SAID THAT, THE CHOICE FOR YOU IS REALLY 12 BETWEEN $76 AND $99. $76 CAN PASS. $99 WOULD BE A 13 TOUGHER SELL AND WOULD REQUIRED A LARGER CAMPAIGN. THAT 14 ALL HAS FISCAL AND POLICY IMPLICATIONS THAT YOU WILL HAVE 15 TO WEIGH. WHAT WE WILL DO IS PRESENT YOU WITH THE DATA. 16 OTHER FEATURES THAT BEN WILL TALK ABOUT SUCH AS 17 A SUNSET AND NO CPI INCREASE, THAT'S PRETTY DEFINITIVE 18 WITH THE DATA. SO MOST OF THE GROUND HAS BEEN SET. THIS 19 BODY HAS ALSO DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH PRIOR TO THIS. SO 20 THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS NOT A NEW DISCUSSION FOR THIS 21 BOARD. 22 AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO 23 BEN TULCHIN. 24 AND, PRESIDENT RIZZO, I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER 25 ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF THE TRUSTEES OR THE PUBLIC MAY MAY 24, 2012 20 1 HAVE. 2 MR. TULCHIN: THANK YOU TO MEMBERS OF THE -- 3 THANK YOU, TRUSTEES. THANK YOU, JOHN WHITEHURST AND 4 LESLIE AND THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE WHO 5 WORKED VERY QUICKLY, EFFICIENTLY, AND EFFECTIVELY TO GET 6 THIS POLL DONE QUICKLY. AND ACTUALLY, THANK YOU TO THE 7 COLLEGE FOR AGAIN ENTRUSTING ME TO DO THE RESEARCH. AS 8 YOU KNOW, I DID A POLL LAST YEAR AND IT'S AN HONOR TO BE 9 BACK AND WORK FOR THIS IMPORTANT INSTITUTION OF SAN 10 FRANCISCO. 11 SO A LITTLE -- NOT TO STRAIN YOUR EYES TOO MUCH, 12 I WILL TRY TO GIVE -- SUMMARIZE. WE DID TWO SURVEYS. WE 13 DID A SURVEY THIS YEAR AND WE DID SURVEY LAST YEAR AS YOU 14 MAY RECALL. 15 THIS YEAR WE INTERVIEWED 900 LIKELY 16 NOVEMBER 2012 VOTERS. WE TESTED THREE DOLLAR AMOUNTS 76, 17 99 AND 120. 18 WE ASKED -- WE SPLIT THE SAMPLE INTO 300 EVENLY 19 MATCHED SAMPLES TO TRULY GET A READ ON EACH DOLLAR AMOUNT 20 AND WE DID CONDUCT INTERVIEWS IN ENGLISH, CHINESE, AND 21 SPANISH. 22 THE MARGIN OF ERROR I SHOULD SAY IS PLUS OR 23 MINUS 3.25 PERCENT FOR THE 900 SAMPLE, PLUS OR MINUS 24 5.66 PERCENT FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS, SO 25 DO KEEP THAT IN MIND. MAY 24, 2012 21 1 LET ME KIND OF JUMP TO THE CORE. THIS IS THE 2 LANGUAGE THAT COUNSEL -- YOU HEARD FROM THE COUNSEL. THE 3 LANGUAGE WE PRESENTED CAME IN PART FROM THE POLL WE DID 4 LAST YEAR, SO THAT POLL WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN CRAFTING A 5 LANGUAGE THAT WE THINK GIVES YOU THE OPTIMAL CHANCE OF 6 SUCCESS. AND AS I'VE SAID, IT'S IDENTICAL LANGUAGE IN 7 EACH OF THE THREE SPLIT SAMPLES WITH THE ONLY THING 8 VARYING IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND YOU HAVE THAT FOR YOUR 9 REFERENCE. AND THAT IS THE LANGUAGE WE RECOMMEND PUTTING 10 ON THE BALLOT VERBATIM IF YOU CAN. 11 SO HERE IS THE $76 AMOUNT. THAT'S THE LOWEST OF 12 THE THREE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WE USED. YOU KNOW, WITH THE 13 LANGUAGE WE JUST HEARD, WE SAID, WOULD YOU VOTE "YES" IN 14 FAVOR, "NO" TO OPPOSE? AND WE THEN WE DO A FOLLOW-UP, 15 WOULD YOU DEFINITELY VOTE "YES" OR "NO," PROBABLY VOTE 16 "YES" OR "NO," OR IF YOU ARE UNDECIDED, ARE YOU LEANING 17 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? 18 SO YOU CAN SEE AMONG THE $76, 64 PERCENT WOULD 19 VOTE "YES" EITHER DEFINITELY OR PROBABLY "YES." THAT'S A 20 ROCK SOLID "YES," PRETTY MUCH. AN ADDITIONAL 6 PERCENT 21 ARE LEANERS SO THAT BRINGS UP THE TOTAL TO 70 PERCENT WITH 22 LEANERS. 23 AS JOHN WHITEHURST MENTIONED, IN A PRESIDENTIAL 24 ELECTION YEAR, YOU TEND TO GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BY 25 VOTERS. AND THOSE LEANERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BREAK YOUR MAY 24, 2012 22 1 WAY THEN NOT, BUT IT'S NO GUARANTEE. IT'S NOT A SLAM 2 DUNK, OKAY. 3 SO OUR VIEW IS -- IN MAKING THIS DETERMINATION, 4 LOOK AT THE 64 PERCENT HARD "YES," PLUS THE 70 PERCENT AND 5 THE TRUTH LIES SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. RECALL THAT YOU NEED 6 TWO-THIRDS, 66.6667 PERCENT TO PASS. SO 76 AT THIS POINT 7 IN TIME WOULD LIKELY PASS WITHOUT -- WITH A NOMINAL 8 CAMPAIGN. 9 YOU SEE LIMITED OPPOSITION, AROUND 19 PERCENT 10 OPPOSE 11 PERCENT UNDECIDED. SO THERE IS A CAMPAIGN YOU 11 WOULD HAVE TO RUN EVEN AT 76. BUT MY VIEW IS THE ODDS ARE 12 DEFINITELY IN YOUR FAVOR AT PASSING 76 WITH A MINIMAL 13 CAMPAIGN. 14 $99 IS SLIGHTLY A DIFFERENT SCENARIO. IT'S 56 15 PERCENT EITHER DEFINITE OR PROBABLE "YES," SO THAT'S A 16 HARD "YES." AN ADDITIONAL 8 PERCENT LEAN "YES" SO THAT'S 17 A 64 PERCENT. SO EVEN WITH LEANERS, YOU ARE CURRENTLY 18 UNDER THE TWO-THIRDS THRESHOLD. SO YOU WOULD NEED A 19 CAMPAIGN TO PASS THIS. SO YOU CANNOT PUT THIS ON THIS 20 BALLOT AND WALK AWAY. YOU HAVE TO COMMIT TIME, ENERGY, 21 AND RESOURCES TO GET IT PASSED. 22 YOU SEE, OPPOSITION IS ABOUT THE SAME AT 23 20 PERCENT AS IT WAS WITH 76. SLIGHTLY HIGHER UNDECIDED, 24 SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT GOING FROM 76 TO 99 DOESN'T 25 DRAMATICALLY IMPACT OR RISE INCREASE OPPOSITION, IT'S JUST MAY 24, 2012 23 1 SOME PEOPLE BACK AWAY AND SAY, I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT 2 DOLLAR AMOUNT. 3 JUST FOR A POINT, WE TESTED 120. THIS IS A 4 NO-GO. THAT'S WHY YOU HEARD -- NO ONE MENTIONED IT IN THE 5 OUTSET. BUT WE JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THE 6 INFORMATION TO SHOW YOU THE DROP DOWN FROM 99 TO 120 AND 7 51 PERCENT HARD "YES," ONLY 61 PERCENT EVEN WITH LEANERS. 8 SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE YOU MOVE FORWARD -- RECOMMEND 9 YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 10 AND YOU SEE THE OPPOSITION GOES UP FROM 20 TO 11 25 PERCENT. THE DEFINITE "NO" GOES FROM 10 TO 15. MORE 12 PEOPLE BECOME HARD IN THEIR POSITION AGAINST, SO STEER 13 CLEAR OF THIS IF YOU CAN. 14 SO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNTS NOW. 15 70 PERCENT WITH LEANERS FOR 76, 65 PERCENT WITH 99 AND 16 120 -- UNDER THE GREEN LINE, IF YOU CAN SQUINT PROPERLY, 17 IS THE TWO-THIRDS MARKER THAT YOU NEED TO PASS. YOU SEE 18 YOU ARE ABOVE THRESHOLD AT 76 WITH LEANERS, SLIGHTLY BELOW 19 99 AND BELOW ENOUGH AT 120 THAT IT'S NOT WORTH CONSIDERING 20 IN MY OPINION. 21 NOW JOHN WHITEHURST MENTIONED A COUPLE 22 PROVISIONS THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER. RARELY IN POLLING 23 FOR A PARCEL TAX THAT WE SEE SUCH CLARITY IN THE DATA. BY 24 A 3 TO 1 MARGIN, 63 PERCENT SAY ALLOW THE PARCEL TAX TO 25 SUNSET OR TO EXPIRE. ONLY 20 PERCENT SAY IT HAVE IT BE MAY 24, 2012 24 1 PERMANENT. THAT'S AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE CLEAR AS DAY. 2 I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO ABIDE BY THE VOTERS 3 PREFERENCES ON THIS ONE AND DO A SUNSET. 4 WE ALSO ASKED ABOUT SETTING -- A FIXED AMOUNT OR 5 HAVING AN INCREASE WITH THE RATE OF INFLATION. THIS 6 MARGIN IS CLOSER ON THIS, BUT STILL HAVE HALF THE VOTERS 7 PREFER A FIXED AMOUNT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY EXPLAIN 8 TO -- I THINK VOTERS ARE SCARED OF MATH AND DON'T LIKE THE 9 IDEA OF INFLATION AND THE NUMBER GOING UP. SOMETHING 10 SIMPLE AND EASY. ONE NUMBER, STICK WITH THAT NUMBER EIGHT 11 YEARS AND THEN YOU ARE DONE. AND I THINK THERE'S VALUE TO 12 A SIMPLICITY IN THESE KINDS OF BALLOT MEASURES. 13 NOW WE DID A SIMULATED CAMPAIGN. WE GAVE THEM 14 POSITIVE INFORMATION AS IF WE WERE TO RUN A CAMPAIGN. AS 15 YOU SEE THE $76 AND THEN THE GRAPH ON THE LEFT IS WHAT YOU 16 SAW BEFORE. 76 PERCENT "YES" WITH LEANERS. YOU SEE WHAT 17 HAPPENS AFTER A SIMULATED, WELL-FUNDED CAMPAIGN, 18 WELL-ORGANIZED, YOU SEE THE IMPRESSIVE SHIFT IN SUPPORT, 19 BUT YOU DON'T NORMALLY SEE THIS KIND OF MOVEMENT WHEN YOU 20 START AT 70 TO GO TO 85. 21 NOW I AM NOT GOING TO SIT HERE TODAY AND SAY, 22 YOU ARE GOING TO GET 85 PERCENT OF THE VOTE EVEN IF YOU 23 RUN A WELL-FUNDED CAMPAIGN. I AM NOT SURE JOHN WOULD BET 24 HIS REPUTATION ON THAT EITHER AS GOOD AS REPUTATION AS IT 25 IS. MAY 24, 2012 25 1 BUT THE POINT IS YOU SEE THE SHIFT OF INTENSE 2 SUPPORT FROM 33 DEFINITE "YES" TO 48. SO THAT TELLS YOU 3 THAT ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR CASE TO VOTERS AND, QUITE FRANKLY, 4 IN CONTEXT THE STATE BUDGET DEBATE IS GOING TO BE GOING ON 5 THIS SUMMER, MORE CUTS, MORE CUTS, MORE CUTS IN VOTERS ARE 6 HEARING ABOUT THOSE CUTS AND OUR CONCERN AND YOU HEAR THE 7 LANGUAGE YOU HEARD, IT IS TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, PROTECT 8 FROM THESE STATE BUDGET CUTS. SO THIS GIVES US VERY GOOD 9 ENCOURAGEMENT THAT 76 IS, EVEN WITH A MINIMAL CAMPAIGN, 10 YOU SHOULD BE IN GOOD POSITION TO PASS. 11 BUT THIS IS WHERE YOUR DECISIONS AS JOHN ALLUDED 12 TO IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING. AT 99 YOU SEE WHERE WE 13 STARTED ON THE GRAPH ON THE LEFT, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT IS 14 GOOD, BUT NOT OVERWHELMING. IT'S 64 PERCENT WITH LEANERS. 15 BUT WITH THE CAMPAIGN, YOU DO GO WELL ABOVE THRESHOLD. 16 IT'S 75 PERCENT IS DEFINITE OR PROBABLE "YES." 42 PERCENT 17 DEFINITE. 78 PERCENT WITH LEANERS. AND WE'VE SEEN THOSE 18 KINDS OF NUMBERS IN LOCAL SCHOOL TAX -- SCHOOL PARCEL 19 TAXES. SO THAT I MEAN GETTING TO 70 PERCENT FOR AN 20 EDUCATION PARCEL TAX IS -- THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR THAT. 21 BUT THERE IS RISK TO $99. I WANT TO BE VERY 22 CLEAR ABOUT THAT. YOU ARE STARTING AT BELOW TWO-THIRDS. 23 IF SOMETHING GOES AWRY, WE'VE SEEN THIS IN OTHER 24 DISTRICTS, BAD NEWS HITS THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER, 25 CONTROVERSY ERUPTS. I AM NOT -- THINGS OUT OF YOUR MAY 24, 2012 26 1 CONTROL COULD HAPPEN. AND YOU ARE STARTING BELOW 2 TWO-THIRDS, SOME BAD NEWS, WORD GETS OUT, VOTERS HEAR 3 ABOUT IT AND THAT COULD PREVENT YOU FROM WINNING AT ALL. 4 AND SO THE QUESTION YOU HAVE TO WEIGH IN MY VIEW 5 IS 76 LOOKS LIKE A MUCH SURE, LESS RISKY BET, BUT YOU ARE 6 OBVIOUSLY NOT GETTING AS MUCH REVENUE AS 99. 99 IS 7 WINNABLE WITH A WELL-FUNDED, WELL-ORGANIZED CAMPAIGN, BUT 8 HAVE YOU TO RUN THAT CAMPAIGN. IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHT, 9 DOUBT, RISK THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PULL THE 10 RESOURCES TOGETHER FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEN THE DOWNSIDE 11 RISK OF COURSE OF LOSING WHEN YOU ARE GETTING NO 12 ADDITIONAL REVENUE IS CLEARLY THERE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. 13 SO IN OUR VIEW, THIS IS JUST A SLIDE SO YOU KNOW 14 THE IMPORTANCE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF THE INSTITUTION OF CCSF 15 OVER HALF OF VOTERS IN SAN FRANCISCO HAD BEEN IMPACTED BY 16 CCSF, WHETHER THEIR CURRENT STUDENTS, ALUMNI, SOMEONE IN 17 THEIR HOUSEHOLD IS ATTENDING A CLASS OR HAS ATTENDED A 18 CLASS, AND THAT'S TRULY AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBER AND SHOWS YOU 19 KIND OF THE REACH OF WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT THE PARCEL TAX 20 CAN DO TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. 21 BUT HERE ARE ULTIMATE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON 22 THIS DATA. $76 IS WINNABLE WITH A MODEST CAMPAIGN. 99 IS 23 A STRETCH, BUT CAN PASS WITH A WELL-ORGANIZED AND 24 WELL-FUNDED CAMPAIGN, BUT IT COULD VERY WELL LOSE IF 25 SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, OUT OF YOUR CONTROL WERE TO HAPPEN MAY 24, 2012 27 1 THIS FALL OR YOU CANNOT -- OR YOU ARE UNABLE TO PUT THAT 2 CAMPAIGN TOGETHER. $120 IS OUT OF REACH, PLEASE DO NOT 3 CONSIDER THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR STUDENTS AND YOUR 4 INSTITUTION. 5 AND VOTERS, AS I MENTION, CLEARLY PREFER A 6 SUNSET AND FIXED AMOUNT THAT DOES NOT INCREASE WITH 7 INFLATION. AND YOU PUT THE LAST BULLET WITH THE FIRST 8 TWO, I THINK FOR ME THAT'S THE -- WE DID NOT PUT A SUNSET 9 IN THE LANGUAGE WE TESTED. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO INSTANTLY 10 APPEAR ON THE BALLOT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO 11 CONSIDER AS PART OF THE MEASURE, SAME WITH THE INFLATION 12 OR NOT AND INCREASE WITH INFLATION AND THEN IT COMES DOWN 13 TO DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WHICH I KNOW ARE BIG ARE MILLIONS OF 14 DOLLARS OVER EIGHT YEARS, BUT MY VIEW IS IT'S EITHER, IF 15 YOU DON'T PASS YOU GET ZERO DOLLARS OVER EIGHT YEARS. AND 16 THAT'S I THINK WHAT THE DECISION FOR YOU AT THIS POINT IN 17 TIME. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I GUESS THIS IS GOING TO BE A 19 QUESTION FOR PETER. 20 WHAT'S -- IN TERMS OF REVENUE THAT COMES IN, 21 WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 76 AND 99? I GUESS I WILL 22 JUST NOT EVEN INCLUDE THE 120. 23 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: (INAUDIBLE) THE 120. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, I THINK THAT ONE IS 25 DONE. MAY 24, 2012 28 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND 2 ANSWER THE QUESTION. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OR LESLIE. 4 MS. SMITH: OKAY, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE MATH. 5 THERE'S ABOUT 200,000 PARCELS IN SAN FRANCISCO. SO IF YOU 6 MULTIPLY 76 BY 2, YOU GET ABOUT 15.2 MILLION. 99 TIMES 2 7 IS 19.8 MILLION PER YEAR. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 9 MS. SMITH: I MEAN I AM JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU 10 SIMPLE SO YOU BECOME CONVERSANT WITH THE NUMBERS. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO 99 IS 19 .8 MILLION. 12 MS. SMITH: YEAH. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 14 MS. SMITH: 99 TIMES 2. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND 76 IS 15.2 -- 16 MS. SMITH: RIGHT. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- PER YEAR, OKAY. 18 MS. SMITH: ROUGHLY. I MEAN THAT'S A GOOD -- 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 21 CAN I ASK -- 22 TRUSTEE WONG. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: THANK YOU, JOHN AND BEN. 24 AS YOU MAY RECALL, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THREE 25 BOND MEASURES FOR CITY COLLEGE. THIS IS A FIRST PARCEL MAY 24, 2012 29 1 TAX, BUT IT'S STILL A CITY-WIDE ELECTION. AND WE NEED 2 TWO-THIRDS. THE ECONOMY IS BAD. WE HAVE FIVE TRUSTEES 3 WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN ELECTIONS THEMSELVES IN NOVEMBER 4 AND PROBABLY RAISING MONEY FOR THEIR OWN CAMPAIGNS ALSO. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: TWO. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: NO, FIVE. WE HAVE FOUR UP FOR 7 RE-ELECTION AND ONE RUNNING FOR SUPERVISOR. THAT'S MY 8 UNDERSTANDING. NOW, THAT'S FIVE. 9 AND I AM GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE 10 BECAUSE RAISING MONEY FOR CAMPAIGNS IS EXTREMELY 11 DIFFICULT. THAT WAS THE PREFACE TO THIS QUESTION. 12 SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN SEVEN OR EIGHT CAMPAIGNS OF 13 MY OWN AS YOU KNOW, JOHN. HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST OR 14 HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO RAISE FOR THIS CAMPAIGN? 15 LET'S SAY, LET'S START OUT WITH A MODEST 16 CAMPAIGN AND THEN MOVING ON TO A WELL-FUNDED CAMPAIGN FOR 17 THE $99 PARCEL TAX. JUST APPROXIMATELY BECAUSE I KNOW 18 IT'S -- 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: JUST TO BE CLEAR, TRUSTEE WONG, 20 WE WILL NOT BE -- THE DISTRICT WILL NOT BE RAISING THE 21 FUNDS FOR THE CAMPAIGN. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S RIGHT. THE DISTRICT WILL 23 NOT. IT'S A SEPARATE -- 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: EXACTLY. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: -- CAMPAIGN ENTITY. MAY 24, 2012 30 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE -- 2 TRUSTEE WONG: JUST IN GENERAL. 3 COUNSEL DICKEY: -- CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE AND WHAT 4 ITS CHALLENGES ARE, OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: IF THERE IS A CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE 6 THAT IS FORMED. 7 MR. WHITEHURST: THROUGH THE PRESIDENT TO 8 ANSWER, TRUSTEE, HISTORICALLY CITY COLLEGE AS WELL AS 9 UNIFIED CAMPAIGNS HAVE RANGED FROM 400 TO 900,000. THE 10 400,000 WOULD BE ON THE MODEST SIDE AND WOULD SECURE -- 11 YOU CAN NEVER GUARANTEE, BUT SECURE TO THE BEST OF OUR 12 AMOUNT THE $76 AMOUNT. ON THE HIGHER END, WE WOULD LOOK 13 AT THE $99. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD -- 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YOU SAID, "99," 15 (INAUDIBLE). 16 MR. WHITEHURST: I THINK BETWEEN 700 AND 17 $900,000 WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PASS THE $99 AMOUNT. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: THANKS, JOHN. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE A QUESTION. DID YOU 20 TEST THE IDEA OF HAVING A SENIOR EXEMPTION IN THE TAX? 21 MR. WHITEHURST: NO, WE DID NOT. AND IN LOOKING 22 AT THE CROSS TABS, SUPPORT IS QUITE STRONG AMONG SENIORS. 23 IT'S ABOUT -- AMONG THE $76 VOTE, IT'S 72 PERCENT "YES" 24 WITH LEANERS. AND OVERALL, SO IT'S ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY 25 HIGHER THAN CITY-WIDE. MAY 24, 2012 31 1 SO THE QUESTION BECOMES IN TERMS OF POLITICAL 2 SUPPORT, PUBLIC OPINION SUPPORT FROM SENIORS, YOU ARE 3 ALREADY DOING QUITE WELL WITH THEM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT 4 WOULD GET YOU TOO MANY EXTRA POINTS TO DO THAT. BUT 5 OBVIOUSLY FROM, YOU KNOW, A POLICY STANDPOINT, IT'S A 6 SEPARATE ISSUE. BUT WE DID NOT TEST EXCLUSIVELY. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THIS WILL BE MY FINAL 10 COMMENT ON THIS. YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT BRINGING 11 IN REVENUE. IT LOOKS LIKE THE $76 ONE, YOU KNOW, IS THE 12 MOST WINNABLE ONE. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 13 FEW YEARS ALL WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS CUTS. AND I THINK, 14 YOU KNOW, PASSING SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, 15 TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW THE INSTITUTION AND ACTUALLY 16 JUST TO SHOW THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AT CITY COLLEGE 17 ARE INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT REVENUE AND NOT JUST CUTS 18 ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GOOD MORALE BOOST 19 HERE AT CITY COLLEGE. AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY KIND OF, YOU 20 KNOW, PUT THE REST OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, NOT ON NOTICE, 21 BUT IT WOULD ACTUALLY KIND OF LET THE CITY KNOW THAT WE 22 ARE KIND OF INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE PARADIGM, WHEREAS 23 PEOPLE JUST ASK HOW MANY CUTS CAN YOU MAKE AND HOW FAST 24 CAN YOU MAKE THE CUTS? 25 YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF START THIS MAY 24, 2012 32 1 CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE REALLY GOING TO 2 HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO USE OUR SERVICES AND, YOU KNOW, 3 AND KNOW US. HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THEM REALLY INVEST 4 IN CITY COLLEGE? 5 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, GOING 6 TO RECOMMEND TO THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT, YOU KNOW, 7 WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING THAT IS SAFE AT $76. AND 8 THAT WE ACTUALLY SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT. AND YOU 9 KNOW, WE LET, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE ELSE AT CITYWIDE KNOW 10 THAT THIS IS KIND OF OUR INTENTION. AND WE REALLY WANT 11 THE COMMUNITY TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I ASK, WHICH RESOLUTION IS 13 IT? WHICH RESOLUTION? 14 COUNSEL DICKEY: WELL, IT WAS ORIGINALLY LISTED 15 AS S6. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S S6. 17 COUNSEL DICKEY: WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 18 STILL -- YEAH, IT'S STILL LISTED AS S6. I DON'T KNOW IF 19 YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL COPY OF THE RESOLUTION IN YOUR BINDER 20 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE I DO. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: WE HAVE (INAUDIBLE) AS WELL. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S NOT IN HERE. 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DID THE PUBLIC GET IT? 25 YOU HAVE S6? MAY 24, 2012 33 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO BE ADDED AS A 2 CO-SPONSOR TO IT IF THAT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I HAVE THIS. 4 COUNSEL DICKEY: RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S NOT IT. 6 COUNSEL DICKEY: THAT'S NOT IT, NO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT I DON'T HAVE -- 8 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S NOT THE RESOLUTION. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: DIDN'T WE -- WE'VE HAD 12 SEVERAL MEETINGS ALREADY ABOUT THE PARCEL TAX. AND WE HAD 13 DISCUSSIONS BY THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS AND EVEN SOME INPUT 14 BY THE PUBLIC. AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND TRUSTEE 15 JACKSON THAT THE VOTE FOR THE BOARD WAS UNANIMOUS. YEAH, 16 SO THERE'S NOT A NEED TO VOTE -- IT WAS UNANIMOUS. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I AM NOT ARGUING THAT. I AM 18 SAYING THAT WE SHOULD PASS THIS RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA. 19 THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING. 20 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OH, OKAY, YEAH. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MY QUESTION IS -- MY 22 QUESTION IS: DID THE RESOLUTION GO OUT IN THE AGENDA TO 23 THE PUBLIC? 24 BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT HERE. IF IT DID NOT GO 25 OUT TO THE PUBLIC, THEN WE WILL NOT DISCUSS IT. MAY 24, 2012 34 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THIS IS MY COPY FROM -- THAT I 2 GOT MAILED TO ME. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND IT'S IN MY COPY THAT WAS 5 MAILED TO ME AT MY HOUSE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I WOULD STILL LIKE AN 7 ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. DID THIS GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC? 8 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I THINK WHAT WENT 9 OUT TO THE PUBLIC IS WHAT IS IN YOUR AGENDA ONLY WITH THE 10 LANGUAGE THAT IS PROPOSED TO THE BALLOT, BUT NOT THE -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS? 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THAT AND THEN WHAT'S 13 ACTUALLY IN YOUR AGENDA HERE, THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE. BUT 14 WHAT IS NOT THERE IS THE SPECIFIC RESOLUTION WITH ALL THE 15 "WHEREASES." 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TO PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT? 17 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WELL, THAT'S WHAT I 18 THOUGHT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOLD ON. 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THE QUESTION IS 22 RESOLUTION 120524-S6 PROPOSING A PARCEL TAX AND ORDERING 23 AN ELECTION WAS THAT COPY IN THE ORIGINAL AGENDA AND DO 24 PEOPLE HAVE IT? 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. MAY 24, 2012 35 1 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND I AM NOT SURE 2 THAT IT -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DID IT GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC? 4 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I DON'T -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT HERE. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I DON'T THINK IT 7 DID. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE 9 CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. DID IT GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC 10 OR NOT? DON'T WE KNOW? 11 MS. SMITH: I CHECKED THE WEB AND IT WAS POSTED 12 ON THE WEB. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS POSTED ON THE WEB. 14 MS. SMITH: WHEN I CHECKED THE WEB. I MEAN I 15 HAVEN'T CHECKED IT TODAY. I CHECKED IT BEFORE, SO IT WAS 16 POSTED ON TUESDAY. I MEAN WHEN I CHECKED THE WEB ON 17 TUESDAY, IT WAS UP. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 MS. SMITH: SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE SENT OUT A 20 PAPER COPY. I MEAN I SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT. I DON'T 21 KNOW. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE WONG. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY 25 THAT, YES, IT WAS PUBLICIZED. I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE MAY 24, 2012 36 1 JACKSON THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD EVEN THOUGH THE 2 RESOLUTION WAS WITHDRAWN -- THAT WE WERE INFORMED THAT IT 3 WAS IT WAS WITHDRAWN BY LEGAL COUNSEL JUST TODAY. I 4 THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE ON BECAUSE MY COPY THAT I GOT AT 5 HOME WAS ALSO -- WHICH ALSO INCLUDED S6. 6 SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO MOVE AND 7 REINSTATE S6 AND THEN JUST CHANGE THE LANGUAGE AT THE END. 8 AND WE HAVE SLIDE NO. 4, THE LANGUAGE ON SLIDE NO. 4. 9 JUST CHANGE THE LANGUAGE AT THE END TO SAY THAT IT 10 SHALL -- SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT LEVY $76 11 PER PARCEL BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. JUST INSERT THAT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG, WHAT WAS REMOVED 13 WAS NOT THE CORRECT -- 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- RESOLUTION. I DON'T THINK 16 WE WANT TO PUT THAT BACK ON THE AGENDA. THAT WAS AN 17 INCORRECT -- 18 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- RESOLUTION THAT WAS NOT 20 SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE AGENDA. WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON 21 THE AGENDA, AND I AM TOLD IS ON THE AGENDA, WHAT WAS SENT 22 OUT TO THE PUBLIC, IS A RESOLUTION PLACING THE MEASURE ON 23 THE BALLOT. 24 NO, SEE THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT THING. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: NO, NO, NO. MAY 24, 2012 37 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE. 2 COUNSEL DICKEY: THE RESOLUTION THAT THIS ITEM 3 SHOULD BE IS AN EIGHT PAGE RESOLUTION THAT -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 5 COUNSEL DICKEY: -- PLACES -- 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHICH I SAW. 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: APPROVES THE BALLOT LANGUAGE 8 AND DIRECTS PLACEMENT ON THE BALLOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 9 REQUIREMENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE GIVING A STATEMENT OF 10 PURPOSES, A SHORT AND LONG TITLE, AND VARIOUS OTHER ISSUES 11 RELATING TO SEVERABILITY. SO THE WHOLE PACKET CAN GO TO 12 THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS AND PROCEED FROM THAT POINT, WHICH 13 IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE DIRECTION TO BE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S S6. 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: RIGHT. THE S6 THAT YOU HAVE IN 16 YOUR PACKET IS NOT THE SAME THING. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S NOT -- THAT'S -- IT'S 18 NOT -- THAT'S THE WRONG S6. THE S6 THAT WAS PREPARED, THE 19 CORRECT S6, IS A MULTI PAGE. IT'S LIKE A FOUR OR FIVE 20 PAGE -- 21 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT'S EIGHT PAGES LONG. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S EIGHT PAGES LONG. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AND WAS THAT POSTED? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THAT COUNSEL SAYS THAT WAS 25 POSTED. MAY 24, 2012 38 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES OR NO? 3 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU SAID, "YES" BEFORE. 5 COUNSEL DICKEY: I DIDN'T SAY, "YES." LESLIE 6 SMITH SAID THAT SHE SAW THAT IT WAS UP ON THE WEB. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 8 COUNSEL DICKEY: WHAT IS UP ON THE WEB IS THE 9 OLD S6, NOT THE CORRECT NEW S6. 10 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: FIRST OF ALL, THE S6 11 THAT YOU NEED TO READ IS BEING COPIED FOR YOU AND YOU WILL 12 HAVE IT SOON. IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WAS E-MAILED TO 13 YOU LAST NIGHT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS ON THE 14 WEB. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ON THE COMPUTER 15 AND SO PLEASE CHECK AND SEE IF IT'S THERE. 16 BUT THE REALITY IS IT DID NOT GO OUT WITH THE 17 ORIGINAL ONE -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: -- BECAUSE THE WRONG 20 ONE WAS IN THERE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND SO WHEN WE FOUND 23 THE WRONG ONE, WE PULLED IT. WE ASKED COUNSEL TO WRITE 24 THE CORRECT ONE. WE ADDED IT. BUT WHETHER OR NOT IT WENT 25 OUT WHEN IT SHOULD, I MEAN THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU MAY 24, 2012 39 1 WANT TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF PERHAPS POSTPONING YOUR 2 VOTE UNTIL NEXT WEEK. WE ARE GOING TO ASK YOU TO MEET 3 NEXT WEEK ANYWAY, AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT DOING 4 THAT. THAT WOULD CERTAINLY GIVE MORE APPROPRIATE 5 DISCLOSURE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. 7 TRUSTEE NGO. 8 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR 9 THE ERROR. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: NO, I'M JUST -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I HAD -- I WENT ON THE WEBSITE 13 JUST BEFORE WE DISCUSSED THE PARCEL TAX TO GET A COPY OF 14 THE RESOLUTION ON MY IPAD. AND THAT S6 IS NOT THE S6 THAT 15 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. THAT S6 IS THE ONE THAT -- 16 IT'S JUST A NOTICE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S IT. THE ATTACHMENT IS A 19 NOTICE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: SO AS OF TODAY ANYWAY ON THE 22 WEBSITE, THAT IF YOU ACTUALLY CLICK IT AND OPEN IT AND 23 READ IT, IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION FOR THE BALLOT 24 MEASURE. IT'S JUST -- SO THERE IS -- 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. MAY 24, 2012 40 1 TRUSTEE NGO: BECAUSE IT HAS A NOTICE OF -- 2 THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE -- I AM SURE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT 3 TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I THINK JUST TO BE SAFE WE SHOULD 4 PROPERLY AGENDIZE IT AND GIVE THE PUBLIC -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AGREE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: -- DUE TIME TO COME OUT AND SPEAK 7 TO IT AND -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, YEAH, WE CAN'T TALK 9 PUBLIC COMMENT NOW ON THE IDEA OF A PARCEL TAX. THIS 10 IS -- WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THE PARCEL TAX. WE 11 CANNOT VOTE TO PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT TONIGHT. 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO -- 14 COUNSEL DICKEY: IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY 15 IT SEEMS THAT IF THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE PUBLIC HASN'T HAD 16 A CHANCE TO EVEN SEE THE CORRECT RESOLUTION, WHICH 17 INCLUDES THE CORRECT BALLOT LANGUAGE, WE MAY WANT TO DEFER 18 EVERYTHING UNTIL THE WEDNESDAY MEETING SO THAT WE DO A 19 PUBLIC HEARING THEN AND THE -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T THINK 21 THAT'S NECESSARY. 22 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. 24 WE HAVE A NOTICE HERE THAT SAYS -- 25 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THAT YOU'RE THINKING MAY 24, 2012 41 1 ABOUT IT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WAS AGENDIZED. IT SAYS, 3 YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A PARCEL TAX SO -- 4 TRUSTEE BERG: LET'S JUST NOT VOTE. 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: DON'T VOTE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING 7 ON THE PARCEL TAX AND WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. 8 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE 9 PUBLIC COMMENT NEXT WEEK. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, SURE, OF COURSE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: ARE WE DONE WITH THE BOARD 12 QUESTIONS OR SHOULD WE -- 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION 14 BECAUSE I NO KNOW THE S6 THAT'S IN MY PACKET, IT SAYS IT 15 WAS APPROVED BY THE CAC, RIGHT? 16 SO THIS S6 WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE CAC. 17 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THAT S6 WAS AN OLD 18 RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT THE RIGHT RESOLUTION. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: THE NEW S6 DOESN'T HAVE THAT. 20 HERE LET ME SHOW YOU. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BUT IT SAYS, IT WAS APPROVED. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. I KNOW. IT'S NOT THE -- 23 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YOU PASSED A 24 RESOLUTION LAST AUGUST THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. MAY 24, 2012 42 1 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND THAT'S WHERE 2 THAT CAME FROM. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I THINK IF THERE'S NO 4 MORE BOARD COMMENT -- 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I DO HAVE -- 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TRUSTEE NGO. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 8 I CAN AND CANNOT TALK ABOUT. I CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WHOLE, 9 RIGHT? 10 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SURE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I CAN TALK ABOUT -- 12 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: CAN YOU TALK IN YOUR 13 MIKE. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I COULD TALK ABOUT THE POLLING. 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THE FINANCES 17 RELATED TO THE PARCEL TAX AND WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD 18 DO -- MY THOUGHTS ON THE 76 VERSUS 99. 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: WE JUST CAN'T TALK ABOUT -- 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE ARE JUST NOT 22 GOING TO VOTE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: SO EVERYTHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT. MAY 24, 2012 43 1 OKAY, GREAT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 3 SO, PETER -- 4 WHERE DID PETER GO? 5 PETER IS NOT HERE. WELL, THEN I GUESS MY 6 QUESTIONS AREN'T GOING TO BE ANSWERED. 7 OH, THERE YOU ARE. SO WE HAD A BUDGET. WE HAD 8 A BOARD MEETING. WAS IT A WEEK AGO? IT'S ALL RUNNING 9 TOGETHER NOW. WE HAD A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING TO TALK 10 ABOUT THE VARIOUS SCENARIOS IN WHICH WE ARE LOOKING 11 DOWN -- WE ARE LOOKING AT A DEFICIT. 12 IF WE -- AND THE NUMBERS THAT I HAD THERE, WE 13 HAD A PARCEL TAX PASSED, A GOVERNOR'S TAX PASSED, AND THEN 14 WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT OTHER OPTIONS. AND THE WORST-CASE 15 SCENARIO OBVIOUS IS IF THE PARCEL TAX FAILS AND THE 16 GOVERNOR'S TAX FAILS. 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: CORRECT. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: WHICH IS -- OKAY. 19 AND IN THE OPTION THAT HAD THE GOVERNOR'S TAX 20 PASSING AND THE PARCEL TAX PASSING, WAS THAT PARCEL TAX 21 NUMBER 76 OR 99 PER PARCEL? 22 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT WAS BASED ON THE SMALLER 23 ONE, THE 76. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT WAS ACTUALLY EVEN SMALLER MAY 24, 2012 44 1 THAN THE AMOUNT YOU HEARD HERE THIS EVENING. IT WAS BASED 2 ON $14 MILLION. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO 4 GET MAYBE 1.2 -- 1.6 MORE. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT'S AN ESTIMATE. AND 6 PRESUMING EVERYBODY PAYS. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: ALL ASSUMPTIONS, RIGHT. 8 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND IT DOESN'T TAKE 9 INTO ACCOUNT THE INTEREST, COSTS OF ASKING FOR THAT MONEY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, OKAY. 11 SO MY QUESTION IS THAT ASSUMPTION STILL IN THE 12 BEST-CASE SCENARIO, THE NEW TAX MONEY OR THE ACTUAL 13 SURPLUS OF TAX DOLLARS WE HAVE, IS NOT $15 MILLION. IT IS 14 IN FACT 1.8 OR WHATEVER THE NET DIFFERENCE IS THAT -- 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SMALL. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: -- YOU ASSUMED. 17 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THAT'S CORRECT. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND THAT NUMBER ACTUALLY BE 21 DIFFERENT NEXT YEAR IN 2000 -- FOR THE 2013-2014 BUDGET 22 EVEN WITH THE PARCEL TAX NUMBER AT $76 PER PARCEL. AND 23 THE GOVERNOR'S TAX, GOVERNOR'S REVENUE ASSUMING THAT 24 CONTINUES. THAT CARRIES THROUGH TO -- WELL, IN 25 PERPETUITY. MAY 24, 2012 45 1 LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT SCENARIO HOLDS FOR 2 ANOTHER YEAR. OUR COST STRUCTURES ARE SUCH THAT WE WOULD 3 STILL HAVE A DEFICIT IN THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO IN 4 2013-2014, RIGHT? 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THAT'S TRUE IF YOU 6 DIDN'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH, OF COURSE, THERE ARE MANY 8 OTHER VARIABLES ASSUMING STATE REVENUES ARE FLAT AND NONE 9 OF OUR OTHER REVENUES INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY, WE WOULD 10 HAVE COSTS THAT WOULD GO UP AND THAT WOULD CREATE A 11 DEFICIT IN THE NEXT YEAR. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO WE WILL BE IN DEFICIT 13 AGAIN NEXT YEAR EVEN IF THE PARCEL TAX PASSES, RIGHT? 14 PROBABLY? 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: GIVEN WHAT I JUST STATED. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THEN MY QUESTION IS A LEGAL ONE 19 WHICH IS -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS ONE, 20 MAYBE YOU CAN DEFER TO ANYBODY HERE. 21 BUT THE BALLOT MEASURE LANGUAGE THAT I HAVE 22 HERE -- OH, WAIT, CAN I TALK -- I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE 23 BALLOT MEASURE LANGUAGE. 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: WELL, IT'S NOTICED IN THE 25 AGENDA. MAY 24, 2012 46 1 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YEAH, YOU CAN 2 TALK -- IT'S IN THE AGENDA. 3 COUNSEL DICKEY: I THINK YOU CAN. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 5 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT'S SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN 6 THE AGENDA. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. I JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE 8 RAISING A BROWN ACT ISSUE. 9 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO. 10 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: NO. 11 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT'S -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO WHAT I HAVE HERE IN TERMS 13 OF THIS ATTACHMENT, IS A STATEMENT OF PURPOSES. AND WHAT 14 I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS, IS THE TAX -- THE PARCEL TAX 15 MONEY IS IT GOING TO BE A GENERAL FUND REVENUE SOURCE OR 16 IS IT GOING TO BE TIED TO THESE SPECIFIC PURPOSES AS IT'S 17 CALLED IN THE STATEMENT OF PURPOSES? 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT 19 WOULD BE A RESTRICTED FUND. 20 COUNSEL DICKEY: LET ME -- WHAT YOU ARE TALKING 21 ABOUT IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE RESOLUTION, NOT THE CALL OF 22 THE QUESTION. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO WE SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT 24 THIS. 25 COUNSEL DICKEY: WE SHOULD -- MAY 24, 2012 47 1 TRUSTEE NGO: ALL RIGHT. 2 COUNSEL DICKEY: DEFER THAT, BUT I CAN ANSWER 3 THAT. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, LET ME -- I WILL ASK YOU 5 OFFLINE THEN. 6 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY, YEAH. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: SO LET ME JUST SAY MY COMMENTS 8 GENERALLY ARE, AND APPRECIATE -- I AM A BIG FAN OF BEN'S 9 WORK. I THINK THIS IS VERY USEFUL. THIS IS OUR SECOND 10 POLL WITH YOU I BELIEVE. AND MY CONCERN IS NOT 11 NECESSARILY WITH THE METRICS AND OF COURSE THE SKILL BY 12 WHICH OUR STRATEGIST WILL TAKE THIS OUT TO THE VOTERS. 13 MY CONCERN IS WHAT IS HOW WE RECONCILE THE 14 QUESTIONS THAT THE PARCEL TAX WILL RAISE IN TERMS OF HOW 15 IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT IF WE KNOW THAT IN FACT IT WILL 16 NOT -- THIS IS NOT NEW MONEY PER SE, BUT THIS IS GOING TO 17 BE MONEY TO COVER A DEFICIT. AND IF IN COVERING THAT 18 DEFICIT WE ARE TIED TO THEORETICAL SPECIFIC COSTS, DOES 19 THE BACKFILL HAVE TO GO TO THOSE SPECIFIC COSTS OR CAN IT 20 GO TO HOWEVER WE WANT TO FILL THE DEFICIT? 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE 22 MANNER IN WHICH THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN THAT THE VOTERS 23 VOTE ON MUST BE RESPECTED BY THE WAY THE MONEY IS SPENT. 24 IN OTHER WORDS, THE WAY YOU SAY YOU WILL SPEND 25 THE MONEY IS THE WAY YOU WILL NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY. MAY 24, 2012 48 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING ALL 2 THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT THIS IS MONEY THAT WOULD GO INTO 3 THE GENERAL FUND, NOT SPECIFICALLY ONE ITEM OR ANOTHER. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT -- CAN I -- I'M ALMOST DONE. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OH, I THOUGHT -- OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IN TERMS OF HOW WE WOULD 7 ARTICULATE THIS TAX TO THE VOTERS, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY 8 SAYING THIS IS -- WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AT SOME 9 POINT, NOT TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE NEXT WEEK WHEN WE PROPERLY 10 AGENDIZE THIS IS WHEN -- IS HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO 11 LEGALLY SAY WHAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE SUPPORTING. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, IT WAS IN THE 13 POLL ON PAGE 4 OF THE SLIDE SHOW. THIS WAS -- THIS 14 LANGUAGE IS WHAT THEY TESTED AND WHAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED 15 TO PUT -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- IN THE MEASURE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 19 THE LANGUAGE. I AM JUST SAYING THE -- WHETHER WE HAVE 20 ANY -- I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE TAKE THIS ON NEXT 21 WEEK WHETHER WE HAVE ANY -- WHAT THE LEGAL OBLIGATIONS 22 ARE, HOW THAT MONEY WOULD BE ALLOCATED IF IN FACT IT'S NOT 23 GOING TO -- IT'S NOT A NET SURPLUS. IT'S GOING TO BE 24 FILLING A DEFICIT. 25 SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO BECAUSE IF WE ARE MAY 24, 2012 49 1 LOOKING AT OUT YEARS WHERE THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A 2 DEFICIT, WHERE IS THIS MONEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO? 3 AND I DON'T NEED AN ANSWER FROM PETER, BUT I 4 JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT POINT. 5 BUT, PETER, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM ASKING? 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I DO. I DO THINK THAT'S 7 SOLVABLE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN INSOLVABLE STATEMENT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, THANK YOU. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN 10 THE LANGUAGE OF MEASUREMENT TESTED, IT DOES SAY, "LOCAL 11 FUNDS TO OFFSET BUDGET CUTS TO PREVENT LAYOFFS" AND THEN 12 ANOTHER PIECE SAYS, "MAINTAIN CORE ACADEMIC CLASSES IN 13 WRITING, MATH, SCIENCE AND PREPARE STUDENTS FOR FOUR-YEAR 14 UNIVERSITIES AND WORKFORCE TRAINING FOR CAREERS IN 15 NURSING, ENGINEERING, AND TECHNOLOGY." SO IT DOES KIND OF 16 SAY THAT THIS MONEY IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE USED TO 17 BACKFILL, YOU KNOW, BUDGET CUTS AND PREVENT LAYOFFS AND 18 MAINTAIN CORE CLASSES. 19 SO I THINK THERE'S -- WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS 20 USED IN THE POLL, I THINK FOLKS THAT VOTED -- THAT SAID 21 THEY WOULD SUPPORT IT OR NOT SUPPORT IT OR THEY DIDN'T 22 KNOW, I THINK THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH UNDERSTANDING THAT'S 23 THE LION SHARE. THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE USED TO KIND OF 24 BACKFILL, YOU KNOW, CUTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST THREE, 25 FOUR, FIVE YEARS AND JUST TO MAINTAIN THE COURSE, SO -- MAY 24, 2012 50 1 TRUSTEE NGO: THIS IS -- I'M SORRY, ONE LAST 2 POINT. ONE IS THAT THERE IS A TYPO IN THE RESOLUTION, THE 3 NEW RESOLUTION THAT YOU JUST LOOKED AT UNDER, 4 "ACCOUNTABILITY REQUIREMENTS." 5 THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IS MISSING AN "I" IN "IN 6 ADDITION" THE FIRST SENTENCE. 7 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE ARE MISSING A 8 WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. 10 BUT CAN I RECOMMEND TO WHOEVER IS WORKING ON 11 THIS THAT MY VIEW OF THE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES, I 12 AM SURE IS YOUR VIEW, PETER, GIVEN YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE 13 LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH OUR QUORUM AT THESE OVERSIGHT 14 COMMITTEES AREN'T VERY FUNCTIONAL. AND WHAT I WOULD HOPE 15 IS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE AN INSPECTOR 16 GENERAL OR SOME DESIGNEE ADMINISTRATOR WHO WILL MAKE SURE 17 THAT THESE FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT PROPERLY IN CONJUNCTION 18 WITH, OBVIOUSLY NOT WITH YOU, BUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOU 19 AND ALSO THE CHANCELLOR AND THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. I 20 THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL. 21 AND I THINK THE REASON WHY I RAISE THESE 22 QUESTIONS ABOUT SPENDING, AND HOW IT GOES, AND HOW IT GETS 23 BACKFILLED IS THAT I THINK YOU HAVE A LEGITIMATE CONCERN 24 AND QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PUBLIC CAN FEEL 25 COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY IN WHICH WE SPEND THE DOLLARS MAY 24, 2012 51 1 HERE AT THE COLLEGE, WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SOME SORT OF 2 ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISM IN PLACE, WHETHER THE DISTRICT 3 FEELS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THE ONLY 4 PEOPLE THE PUBLIC ELECTS TO SERVE ON THIS -- TO SERVE THIS 5 INSTITUTION AND TO ACT AS FIDUCIARIES. 6 AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE SET ASIDES OR THESE 7 SPECIFIC PROVISIONS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC 8 HAS SOME TRANSPARENCY AND KNOWS WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE 9 GOING TO GO. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS 11 ABOUT THAT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT NEXT TIME I CAN -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, THANK YOU. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- SUGGEST THAT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO 15 OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE ONE CARD. 16 ALISA MESSER. 17 IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS, PLEASE 18 FILL OUT A CARD. 19 MS. MESSER: ALISA MESSER, AFT 2121. I THINK 20 IT'S GREAT TO SEE THIS POLL AND TO BE HAVING THIS 21 CONVERSATION. I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THAT A FEW TIMES 22 BEFORE. 23 BUT WE ARE VERY EXCITED. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING A 24 LOT WITH SEIU. I KNOW SEIU IS LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING 25 FORWARD ON THIS. AND I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT GIVEN THE MAY 24, 2012 52 1 POLLING NUMBERS, WHICH I THINK ARE VERY POSITIVE, IT'S 2 GREAT TO HEAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A GIANT CAMPAIGN 3 THAT WE CAN RUN A MODERATE CAMPAIGN. BUT I ALSO THINK IT 4 IS WORTH LOOKING AT IF WE'VE GOT $76, AND WE KNOW THAT 5 THAT IS A PRETTY -- YOU KNOW, WITH A DECENT CAMPAIGN IS A 6 PRETTY SURE BET. 7 I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE IT UP 8 JUST A LITTLE TO $79. THAT THAT RIGHT -- IT'S WELL WITHIN 9 REACH, IT'S NOT -- RIGHT? WE ALL WANTED IT TO COME BACK 10 99, BUT IT DIDN'T COME BACK -- YOU KNOW, I MEAN IT CAME 11 BACK 99, BUT NOT WITHOUT A STRETCH. SO I WANT TO SUGGEST 12 79. THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 14 ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 15 MR. SCOTT: RODGER SCOTT, FACULTY AND AFT 2121. 16 I SHARE THE VIEW EXPRESSED BY MY DISTINGUISHED 17 PRESIDENT THAT WE SHOULD GO FORWARD ON THIS. I THINK IT 18 MAY BE TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE THE FIGURE. I THINK 76, 19 79 -- I THINK FROM POLLING STATISTICS, FROM POLLING 20 RESULTS, I THINK CLOSER TO 76 MAKES SENSE FROM MY 21 PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE 22 MORE RESPONSIBILITY THEN I WILL DECIDE ON. 23 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE UNIFIED AND 24 COHESIVE IN THIS EFFORT. AND I WOULD THINK THAT SOME OF 25 THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING THE PEOPLE SHOULD ALSO MAY 24, 2012 53 1 BE DIRECTED TO JOHN WHITEHURST WHOSE EXPERIENCE IS 2 VALUABLE AND HIS RECORD IS VERY DISTINGUISHED. AND I'M 3 SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO AND CAN DO. 4 SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU WILL DO IT. THANK YOU. 5 AND I WILL FILL OUT MY CARD, JOHN. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 8 OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT THEN. 9 PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 10 TRUSTEES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 11 I WILL SAY THAT I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE 12 SPEAKERS THAT WE SHOULD GO FOR THE LOWER AMOUNT RATHER 13 THAN KIND OF SHOOT THE DICE AND RISK THE HIGHER AMOUNT. I 14 THINK IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY PASS SOMETHING 15 RATHER THAN RISK LOSING AND PASS SOMETHING HIGHER. THAT'S 16 MY OPINION ANYWAY. 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I HAVE TWO QUICK POINTS. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO, I ALSO 20 AGREE WITH THE SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE LOWER 21 AMOUNT. 22 ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, AND 23 THAT IS WE'VE USED TULCHIN TO DO OUR POLLING, AND WE 24 HAVE -- WHEN WE GOT THE RESULTS BACK, WE ADHERED TO WHAT 25 WE FOUND AND SO THIS WILL BE NO DIFFERENT. WE WILL GO MAY 24, 2012 54 1 WITH A SURE THING AS OPPOSED TO TAKING A CHANCE OR 2 STRETCHING IT A BIT. 3 THE OTHER QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE WE DO 4 HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF DOING BONDS. WE HAVE NOT DONE A 5 POLL BEFORE SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD. 6 SO MY QUESTION IS, WOULD WE HAVE A POLL 7 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE JUST LIKE WE HAVE A BOND OVERSIGHT 8 COMMITTEE? 9 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: PARCEL. 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: PARCEL. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YOU ARE SAYING, 12 "POLL." YOU MEAN PARCEL. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: PARCEL, YEAH, BEYOND THE 14 POLL, PARCEL. IS THAT -- 15 MS. SMITH: THE SUGGESTED BALLOT LANGUAGE IS 16 THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO IT'S A "YES." 18 MS. SMITH: YES. 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 20 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: CITIZEN OVERSIGHT 21 AND ANNUAL AUDITS. 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I ASK THEN DO YOU THINK 24 THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH ADDING AN INSPECTOR GENERAL TO THE 25 ACCOUNTABILITY LANGUAGE? MAY 24, 2012 55 1 MR. TULCHIN: I KNOW THAT WE TESTED TO THIS 2 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. THERE'S A LONG RECORD OF WHAT WORKS 3 WELL IN BALLOT LANGUAGE IS ANNUAL AUDITS AND CITIZENS' 4 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS. WE 5 SAW THE POLL RESULTS WITH THAT LANGUAGE. SO I WOULD SAY 6 WHEN YOU INJECT A VARIABLE THAT'S UNKNOWN WE HAVEN'T 7 TESTED, YOU INTRODUCE RISK. 8 AND SO AS DIFFICULT AS IT IS TO PASS THESE 9 MEASURES TO GET TO TWO-THIRDS, I PERSONALLY ADVISE AGAINST 10 IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T POLLED ON IT. AND I RATHER YOU DO 11 USE MECHANISMS THAT HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS. 12 AND THEN AS A BOARD, YOU CAN SHAPE THE CITIZENS' 13 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THERE'S 14 TRANSPARENCY AS A BODY. YOU CAN DO --WORK ON IT 15 YOURSELVES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THE PROPER 16 TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. 17 BUT IN TERMS OF PASSING PARCEL TAXES, THEY ARE 18 NOT EASY TO DO TO GET TO THAT TWO-THIRDS NUMBER AND TO 19 VEER AWAY FROM THE LANGUAGE WE TESTED, IT INJECTS AN 20 ELEMENT OF RISK THAT I DON'T RECOMMEND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 SO THE QUESTION IS MEETING NEXT WEEK WOULD BE A 23 SPECIAL MEETING. WHAT DAY, TRUSTEES, WORKS FOR YOU? 24 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL BE SACRAMENTO MOST OF THE 25 WEEK, SO TUESDAY WORKS FOR ME. MAY 24, 2012 56 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TUESDAY WORKS FOR YOU, TRUSTEE 2 BERG. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY I WORK 4 LATE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 6 DOES TUESDAY WORK FOR EVERYONE? THAT'S TUESDAY 7 THE 5TH. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: I CAN'T DO IT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG CANNOT DO IT ON 10 TUESDAY. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN IT BE WEDNESDAY? 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SHE CAN'T DO THIS 13 WEDNESDAY. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WHAT ABOUT MONDAY? 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IT'S A HOLIDAY. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OH, THAT'S RIGHT. 17 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THURSDAY YOU COULD 18 CONCEIVABLY. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WHAT TIME ON TUESDAY? 20 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WELL, THAT WOULD BE 21 UP TO YOU FOLKS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A TRADITIONAL 22 TIME. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. IT COULD BE IN THE 24 EVENING. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I HAVE SOMETHING -- MAY 24, 2012 57 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IN THE EVENING? 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEP. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN WE DO LIKE -- I CAN DO 5 LATE AFTERNOON LIKE 4:00. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: I CAN'T DO IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO CAN'T DO IT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT TIME ARE YOU PROPOSING? 9 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: HE IS PROPOSING 4:00 10 ON TUESDAY. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: I CAN'T DO TUESDAY AT ALL. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: TUESDAYS ARE JUST A BAD DAY. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU'VE GOT THE VOTES. IT SEEMS 14 EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT SEEMS LIKE IT. 16 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE 17 A QUORUM. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, WE DO. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: ANY FOUR. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT LOOKS LIKE IT. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I CAN'T MAKE IT AT FOUR O'CLOCK. 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: BUT HE CAN MAKE 25 IT -- OH. MAY 24, 2012 58 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU CAN'T MAKE IT AT FOUR 2 O'CLOCK. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON CAN'T MAKE IT 5 AT -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN WE JUST DO IT AT SIX O'CLOCK 7 ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, I AM FREE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WELL, THAT'S TRY 10 THURSDAY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT ABOUT THURSDAY? 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I CAN DO THURSDAY. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG CANNOT ALSO MAKE 14 THURSDAY. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL BE (INAUDIBLE). 16 TRUSTEE WONG: WE CAN DO IT ON MONDAY, BUT I 17 THINK MONDAY IS HOLIDAY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY. 19 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY. 20 WE CAN'T DO IT MONDAY. WHAT ABOUT NOON ON TUESDAY? 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOON ON TUESDAY? 22 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO? 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: JUST TRYING TO THINK 25 (INAUDIBLE) HERE. MAY 24, 2012 59 1 TRUSTEE BERG: FRIDAY. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT ABOUT FRIDAY? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FRIDAY. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: JUNE 1ST. THAT'S FINE WITH 5 ME. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: BUT NOT THE EVENING. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: I THINK FRIDAY (INAUDIBLE). 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I CAN MAKE ANY TIME NEXT WEEK IN 9 THE EVENING, ANY DAY NEXT WEEK IN THE EVENING. 10 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WHY DON'T WE SEE HOW 11 MANY CAN BE THERE TUESDAY EVENING, HOW MANY WEDNESDAY, HOW 12 MANY THURSDAY AND WE WILL JUST VISIT -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: JUST DO A STRAW 15 POLL. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AND FRIDAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND FRIDAY, OKAY. YES, LET'S 18 DO A STRAW POLL. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN I CAN BE THERE AT 5:00 20 ON TUESDAY, LIKE -- 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BUT I HAVE GOT TO LEAVE LIKE 23 IN 30 MINUTES. 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE CAN MAKE IT THE 25 FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. MAY 24, 2012 60 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: ONLY. 2 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THE ONLY ITEM ON THE 3 AGENDA. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THAT'S FINE. 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: TUESDAY, FIVE. NO, 6 YOU CAN'T DO FIVE. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I SAID SIX ANY DAY OF THE WEEK 8 NEXT WEEK. 9 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: ALL RIGHT. TUESDAY 10 AT 5:00? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: NO, YOU CAN'T DO 13 5:00. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I SAID, "6:00" -- 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OH, YOU SAID, 16 "6:00." 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- "ANY DAY OF THE WEEK NEXT 18 WEEK." 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: TUESDAY AT 5:00. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: I COULD COME TUESDAY AT 5:00 AND 21 THURSDAY AT 5:00. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, THURSDAY AT 5:00 IS ALSO 23 OKAY. 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: COULD YOU DO 25 THURSDAY AT 5:00? MAY 24, 2012 61 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOW IS THURSDAY AT 5:00? 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THURSDAY AT 5:00, YEAH, THAT'S 3 FINE WITH ME. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THURSDAY, NO? 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: STEVE CAN'T DO IT. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: IF YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR QUORUM, GO 7 AHEAD. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: THURSDAY I WILL BE BACK. 9 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT 10 ABOUT THURSDAY AT 6:00. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I SAID, "ANY DAY" -- 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES, YES -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: SIX O'CLOCK. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THURSDAY AT 6:00. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. 16 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THURSDAY AT 6:00 WE 17 GET AT LEAST FOUR, FIVE. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL BE COMING BACK FROM 19 SACRAMENTO. I WILL BE BACK. 20 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE COULD DO THURSDAY 21 AT 6:00. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FIVE. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. I CAN DO THAT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO THAT'S THURSDAY THE 24 31ST AT WHAT TIME? 25 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SIX O'CLOCK. MAY 24, 2012 62 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: 6:00, OKAY. 2 OKAY, SO WE WILL SEND OUT A NOTICE TO EVERYONE. 3 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THE PUBLIC WILL BE 5 NOTIFIED. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE'LL GET THE 7 RESOLUTION READY. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND SO WE WILL HAVE THE 9 RESOLUTION POSTED. 10 IS THAT RIGHT, STAFF, WE WILL HAVE THE 11 RESOLUTION POSTED? 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES, SIR. I 13 PROMISE, IF I HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF IT'S NOT, I AM NOT COMING. 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: ME EITHER. 16 DEFINITELY, ME EITHER. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO I THINK -- IS THERE 18 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 20 QUESTIONS I HAVE RAISED TONIGHT WILL BE ANSWERED ON 21 THURSDAY. 22 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND THOSE WOULD BE? 23 TRUSTEE NGO: WHETHER THE ALLOCATIONS ARE 24 ALLOWED TO GO BASED ON THE SPECIFIC PURPOSES DESIGNATED IN 25 THE BALLOT MEASURE. MAY 24, 2012 63 1 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SO YOU WANT AN 2 INTERPRETATION OF THE BALLOT MEASURE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T 3 SPELL OUT -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: IT DOES -- 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I MEAN TO SOME 6 EXTENT IT DOES. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, IT DOES. SO I TALKED TO 8 PETER ABOUT IT ALREADY. AND HE SAID, IT WAS OKAY THAT WE 9 HAVE QUESTIONS BY -- 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: I CAN PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING TO 11 RESPOND TO THAT FOR YOU BEFORE THE MEETING. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN I THINK IT'S A FAIR 13 QUESTION THAT'S BEING RAISED WHETHER AND HOW THE DOLLARS 14 WOULD BE BACKFILLED. AND IT RAISES QUESTIONS AS TO HOW WE 15 ARE SPENDING MONEY NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A BIG 16 ISSUE OR NOT. 17 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I THINK A BIG ISSUE 18 FOR YOU IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH BONDS, EVEN WHEN IT IS 19 CONSTRUCTION, IS LANGUAGE THAT'S CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC AND 20 THAT YOU STAY TRUE TO AND THAT LEAVE -- BUT AT THE SAME 21 TIME, LEAVES YOU AS THE ELECTED BOARD, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF 22 FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO 23 FEEL TWO YEARS FROM NOW OR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, BUT IT 24 COULD BE -- WHILE YOU WANT SOME SPECIFICITY AND 25 TRANSPARENCY, YOU ALSO WANT THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE MAY 24, 2012 64 1 THAT FINAL CALL ON WHERE THAT MONEY IS SPENT. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T NEED THE SPECIFICITY PER 3 SE BUT I -- 4 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T NEED THE SPECIFICITY. I 6 JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS -- 7 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YOU WANT TO KNOW IF 8 YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER IT? 9 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT'S THE IMPLICATION OF THE 10 LANGUAGE? 11 COUNSEL DICKEY: ALL RIGHT. 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE MONEY. 14 MR. TULCHIN: IN THE PUBLIC OR WHERE IT GOES? 15 TRUSTEE NGO: SAY IT AGAIN. 16 MR. TULCHIN: IS THE QUESTION MORE ABOUT WHERE 17 IT ACTUALLY GOES OR IS THE QUESTION YOU HAVE IS THE PUBLIC 18 FEEL OF WHERE GOES IN THE PLACE OF THE BALLOT? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: THE FIRST. 20 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON. THANK 22 YOU. 23 THE NEXT ITEM WE WILL HAVE REPORT FROM 24 CONSTITUENT GROUPS. 25 THE FIRST ONE IS CLASSIFIED SENATE, JAMES MAY 24, 2012 65 1 ROGERS, PRESIDENT. 2 MR. ROGERS: GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE TRUSTEES, 3 DR. FISHER. 4 SINCE LAST WE MET THERE HAS BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF 5 CHANGE. CHANCELLOR FISHER, WELCOME. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THANK YOU. 7 MR. ROGERS: I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE 8 YOUR QUICK ARRIVAL AND BELIEVE YOUR OBSERVATIONS THAT WE 9 HAVE AN EXCEPTIONAL NUMBER OF MEETINGS AT THE COLLEGE TO 10 BE TRUE. I AM HOPING YOUR EFFORTS CAN ASSIST THE DISTRICT 11 IN REDUCING THE VOLUME OF MEETINGS STEMMING FROM WORKGROUP 12 PROLIFERATION AND ALLOW US TO INCREASE OUR EFFECTIVENESS 13 AND FOCUS WHILE SAVING TIME AND MONEY. 14 I HEAR ONE GROUP'S COLLECTIVE MONTHLY MEETINGS 15 COSTS HAVE RISEN UPWARDS OF 10,000 INCLUDING RECORDING AND 16 CLOSED CAPTIONING. WITH SKILL OR LUCK, WE WILL SAVE MONEY 17 TONIGHT AND BE DONE BEFORE 1:00 A.M. 18 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES. 19 MR. ROGERS: AWESOME. 20 THE CLASSIFIED SENATE MEETING MEETS ON A MONTHLY 21 BASIS. WE MET LAST WEEK AND DISCUSSED THE ADMINISTRATORS 22 EVALUATIONS. AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING 23 THIS IN DETAIL. WE HAVE STRONG OPINIONS REGARDING THE 24 PROCESS UNDER WHICH THEY ARE EVALUATED, AS WELL AS THE 25 EFFICACY OF OUR LEADERS. SADLY, THIS WILL WAIT AS WE MAY 24, 2012 66 1 UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET SHORTFALL AND PARCEL TAX DISCUSSION 2 HAVE PRECEDENCE. 3 OUR CLASSIFIED SENATORS SERVE STAGGER TWO-YEAR 4 TERMS. THIS YEAR'S ELECTIONS IS UNDERWAY. THOSE RESULTS 5 FOR THE SIX SENATORS AND VICE PRESIDENTS WILL BE TABULATED 6 AND ANNOUNCED TOMORROW. 7 CHANCELLOR FISHER, WE WOULD ENJOY HAVING YOU 8 GIVE THE OATH OF OFFICE TO THE NEW OFFICERS AT THE AUGUST 9 FLEX IF YOUR SCHEDULE PERMITS. 10 I ONCE SAID THE BUDGET CRISIS IS SURMOUNTABLE. 11 IN LIGHT OF THE CONTINUED BOWING TO SACRED COWS AND 12 POLITICS, THIS IS LESS CERTAIN. 13 LET ME SPEAK PLAINLY. THE BUDGET IS BAD, B-A-D. 14 WE ARE TAKING MONEY OUT OF OUR POCKETS, OUR PURSES AND 15 WALLETS TO HELP REDUCE THE COLLEGE DEFICIT, NOT IN ORDER 16 FOR OTHERS TO GIVE OUR MONEY TO THEIR FRIENDS. 17 A NUMBER OF RECENT RESOLUTIONS FLY IN THE FACE 18 OF THIS. THE PAST CHANCELLOR AND CONSTITUENCIES AGREED 19 WITH THE FISCAL CRISIS WE SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING TO REHIRE 20 RETIREES. LAST MONTH AN F5 RESOLUTION PROPOSED TO DO JUST 21 THAT, BUT THE MEETING WENT BEYOND 1:00 A.M. AND IT WAS 22 NEVER ACTED ON. THIS MONTH IT RETURNS AS PART OF B5 23 BURIED ON PAGE 12. 24 THE CAREER OF THIS PERSON HAS BEEN ILLUSTRIOUS. 25 I LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT ARE WE GIVING 1 PERCENT MAY 24, 2012 67 1 PRIVILEGES THAT THE OTHER 99 PERCENT ARE DENIED. 2 THE HUMAN RESOURCES OFFICE HAS A VOLUNTARY 3 UNPAID SERVICE FORM SO THEY COULD VOLUNTEER AND STILL BE 4 COVERED BY WORKMAN'S COMP. STATE SUPPORT FOR EDUCATION 5 HAS BEEN DRASTICALLY REDUCED AND THE TREND CONTINUES IN 6 NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH INCLUDES MONIES FROM 7 QUESTIONABLE SOURCES LIKE THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WITH 8 TRIGGER CUTS WHEN THOSE DOLLARS ARE NOT REALIZED. 9 THIS YEAR'S TRIGGER COSTS CAUSED PAINFUL 10 REDUCTIONS IN SALARIES AND STUDENTS' ABILITY TO GET 11 CLASSES. WE HEAR THE ACCREDITATION TEAMS CLEAR MESSAGE 12 THAT WITH LIMITED TIME AND RESOURCES, WE MUST FOCUS ON 13 HIGH PRIORITY ISSUES. 14 RESOLUTIONS F1, F2, AND F3 COMBINED ARE 15 ESTABLISHING NEW CLASSIFICATIONS FOR NON EDUCATIONAL 16 ADMINISTRATORS AND BEGINS A PROCESS FOR MOVING THEM. IT 17 SAYS THIS WILL NOT RESULT IN A CHANGE IN SALARY OR ANY NEW 18 COSTS TO THE DISTRICT. 19 REALLY? WHO DID THE ANALYSIS? HOW IS THIS 20 POSSIBLE GIVEN THE DIFFERENCES IN BENEFIT PACKAGES AND 21 ASSOCIATED COSTS? 22 THE BUDGET IS BAD. ACT RESPONSIBLY. THANK YOU. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 24 THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ACADEMIC SENATE, KAREN 25 SAGINOR. MAY 24, 2012 68 1 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: NO, ACTUALLY THE 2 STUDENTS ARE NEXT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, THE STUDENTS ARE NEXT? 4 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 6 ARE THERE ANY STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES? 7 MR. WALKER: HI, GREETINGS. I AM NOT THE 8 PRESIDENT OF A.S. OCEAN CAMPUS. I AM ONE OF HIS STAFF 9 MEMBERS. MY NAME IS WILLIAM WALKER. I AM THE SHARED 10 GOVERNANCE COORDINATOR FOR OCEAN CAMPUS. I AM ALSO THE 11 INCOMING STUDENT TRUSTEE FOR THIS BOARD BEGINNING JUNE 12 1ST. 13 I DID PASS AROUND A QUICK REPORT TO ADDRESS SOME 14 SHARED GOVERNANCE CONCERNS. AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE 15 IT. IT'S -- I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT MUCH, BUT 16 THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THE SHARED 17 GOVERNANCE PROCESS COULD BE MORE REFINED AND MORE 18 ACCOUNTABLE. AND I OFFER MY SUGGESTIONS. AND I OFFER MY 19 CONTACT INFORMATION FOR YOU TO GET A HOLD OF ME. 20 ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES THAT I HAVE I HAD 63 DAYS 21 TO DO IT. I WASN'T HIRED UNTIL APRIL. I SHARE CHANCELLOR 22 FISHER'S CONCERNS. IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIME TO DO A LOT OF 23 WORK. AND THERE ARE 48 COMMITTEES, SO EVEN IF I JUST 24 SPENT ONE DAY TACKLING ONE COMMITTEE WITHOUT WEEKENDS, I 25 WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT MAY 24, 2012 69 1 WE LOOK AT IF COMMITTEES HAVEN'T MET ON A REGULAR BASIS, 2 WHETHER THEY ARE NECESSARY, LOOKING AT WAYS TO REALLY 3 REFINE THE PROCESS SO THAT STUDENTS CAN FIND A WAY TO PLUG 4 THEMSELVES IN. WE HAVE 41 STUDENTS ON COMMITTEES. THERE 5 ARE 74 RESTRICTED APPOINTMENTS, AND THERE ARE ALSO A 6 NUMBER OF COMMITTEES THAT HAVE INFINITE APPOINTMENTS. 7 AND THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT ARE 8 INTERESTED. THEY ARE JUST NEBULOUS. IT'S A NEBULOUS 9 PROCESS THAT THEY WEREN'T SURE OF HOW TO GET INTO TO, AND 10 I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING WHAT'S CALLED, A 11 COMMUNITY SERVICE AND INVOLVEMENT COMMITTEE, CSI. IT'S 12 DONE A LOT OF OUTREACH ON CAMPUS. THEY'VE DONE TOWN HALLS 13 ABOUT THE $100,000 DEFICIT THAT A.S. IS GOING TO HAVE. WE 14 HAVE A RUNNING DEFICIT BECAUSE WE SPEND $100,000 MORE THAN 15 WE BRING IN. 16 BUT WE HAVE 12 PROGRAMS, AND WE'VE APPROVED A 17 13TH PROGRAM CALLED, "EACH ONE TEACH ONE." IT'S A 18 WORKSHOP SERIES WHERE STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO OFFER AN 19 INTENSIVE WORKSHOP ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC OF THEIR 20 INTEREST. IT'S MODELED AFTER THE DECAL PROGRAM AT THE 21 UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA BERKELEY. 22 THE ONLY PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO 23 CONTINUE TO FUND ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. WE'VE HAD A TOWN 24 HALL. WE HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH KCBS PRESENT, OUR 25 TRUSTEES SPOKE. I DIDN'T CATCH KCBS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAY 24, 2012 70 1 AIRED. BUT THE POINT IS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO STUFF 2 LIKE THAT. WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THAT AS A SHARED 3 GOVERNANCE FUNCTION WHERE ALL FOUR OF OUR CONSTITUENCIES 4 TALK ABOUT HOW THE DEFICIT EFFECTS ALL FOUR RANKS AND HAVE 5 SOME KIND OF UNITY AMONGST ALL OF US. 6 I WILL END THERE -- OTHER THAN SAYING THAT THE 7 OCEAN CAMPUS COUNCIL, THEY ARE WRAPPING UP THEIR 8 TRANSITION. AND THEY ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW 9 LEADERSHIP THAT THEY HAVE. THEY HAD AN ELECTION WITH 10 OVER -- WELL, OVERALL THE DISTRICT HAD AN ELECTION WITH 11 OVER 2000 PARTICIPATES AT TEN OF OUR CAMPUSES. SO THAT'S 12 A HIGH MARK. WE HAVE HIGH PARTICIPATION, AND WE WOULD 13 LIKE TO KEEP IT UP. SO THANK YOU. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I? 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS. 17 MR. WALKER: THANK YOU. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WELCOMING 19 YOU NEXT MONTH. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS -- I AM NOT SURE. 20 DID YOU PRODUCE THIS? 21 MR. WALKER: I PREPARED IT. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, GREAT. FANTASTIC. BECAUSE 23 I THINK IT IS A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET 24 MORE STUDENT INPUT. I MEAN MY CONCERN WITH SHARED 25 GOVERNANCE IS THAT THERE IS JUST NOT ENOUGH STUDENT INPUT MAY 24, 2012 71 1 AND I THINK PART OF IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I'VE RAISED 2 THIS BEFORE IN A COMMITTEE WHICH IS THAT WE GIVE RELEASE 3 TIME TO FACULTY AND THE OFFICERS OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE TO 4 DO THE WORK THAT THEY DO. 5 BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ACTUALLY ENOUGH OF A 6 FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO GIVE TO STUDENTS TO DO THE WORK THAT 7 THEY NEED TO DO ON THESE -- HOW MANY -- 40 SOMETHING 8 COMMITTEES. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WERE THAT MANY 9 COMMITTEES. AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS JUST -- 10 I THINK IT IS BENEFICIAL TO DO WHAT YOU ARE 11 DOING WHICH IS KIND OF STREAMLINE THINGS, GET SOME MORE 12 TRANSPARENCY, ENCOURAGE MORE STUDENT INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE I 13 DO THINK ONCE WE HAVE THE USER, I.E., THE STUDENT GIVE US 14 FEEDBACK ON A REGULAR BASIS AND IT'S CONSISTENT AND THAT 15 WE ARE INVESTING AND NEED TO DO THAT KIND OF STAKEHOLDER 16 RELATIONSHIPS AND BUILDING, WE GET BETTER PRODUCT IN MY 17 OPINION. AND I THINK WE DO IT PLENTY WELL FOR FACULTY 18 JUST NOT ENOUGH FOR STUDENTS. AND THAT'S WHY I HOPE -- 19 AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, BUT I 20 WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND, AGAIN, 21 WELCOME YOU TO THE BOARD NEXT MONTH. 22 MR. WALKER: THANK YOU. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS MANDY LAM HERE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MANDY COULD NOT MAKE IT MAY 24, 2012 72 1 TONIGHT, BUT AL FROM SOUTHEAST. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 3 MR. YATES: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. AND 4 WELCOME, CHANCELLOR FISHER. 5 MY NAME IS AL YATES, AND I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT 6 OF THE STUDENT ASSOCIATION OF THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 7 THIS IS SHASHI DALAL, WHO IS OUR STUDENT 8 REPRESENTATIVE. 9 I AM HERE TO SPEAK TODAY REGARDING THE 10 RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA THAT SHOWS THAT MPICT, THE 11 MID-PACIFIC ICT CENTER, IS GIVING OVER $62,000 TO OHLONE 12 COLLEGE. I WAS CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY CCSF WAS 13 GETTING FROM MPICT. AND I WENT BACK TO PAST BOARD 14 RESOLUTIONS, AND I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND NO MONIES HAVE BEEN 15 GIVEN TO CCSF. 16 THE REASON THIS CONCERNS ME IS THAT I WENT TO 17 WASHINGTON DC, INVITED BY THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION, 18 TO BE A STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE TO SUPPORT MPICT'S REQUESTS 19 FOR THIS $3 MILLION GRANT. 20 IN ADDITION, I HELP MPICT FIND MINORITY STUDENTS 21 TO POSE FOR THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION MAGAZINE TO 22 SHOW THEIR DIVERSITY GOALS. I HAVE PICTURES OF WARREN AND 23 NATHAN AND OTHER STUDENTS THAT GATHERED FOR THIS. 24 WHEN I LOOK BACK ON THE BOARD AGENDAS, I FOUND 25 MANY DISBURSEMENT TO OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND HIGHER MAY 24, 2012 73 1 SALARIES OF 130,000 TO 150,000, BUT NOTHING FOR CCSF, 2 NOTHING FOR SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 3 BECAUSE OF THE CCSF'S WORST BUDGET EVER, I WAS 4 APPALLED TO SEE THAT MPICT HAS BEEN FUNDING CLASSES FOR 5 OTHER COMMUNITY CLASSES BUT NOT FOR CCSF. 6 I URGE YOU TO TABLE THE RESOLUTION AND 7 INVESTIGATE MPICT'S REASONS FOR NOT FUNDING CCSF CLASSES 8 IN THE SAME MANNER AS THEY DO OTHER COLLEGES. WE 9 RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO WORK WITH MPICT AND FUNDING 10 CLASSES THAT WILL LEAD TO ICT INFORMATION AND 11 COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS AND 12 INTERNSHIPS AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. IT'S VERY 13 DISCONCERTING TO SEE SO MANY CLASSES CUT FROM CITY COLLEGE 14 WHILE THEY ARE BEING FUNDED ELSEWHERE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT RESOLUTION? 17 MR. YATES: I THINK IT IS B3. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, YEAH, YEAH, B3 THAT YOU 19 PULLED. 20 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I BELIEVE IT IS A 21 GRANT THAT I AM GUESSING IS A PASS-THROUGH. 22 DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE AS OUR GRANT PERSON? 23 IT'S A PASS-THROUGH FROM OHLONE. WE DON'T 24 REALLY HAVE CONTROL OVER IT. 25 MR. DALAL: YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MAY 24, 2012 74 1 POINT THAT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS OUR CLASS ON COMPUTER 2 REPAIR HARDWARE WAS DROPPED, CANCELED, AND THERE WERE 3 ROOMS WHERE WE WENT OVER TO ONE STOP OR SOMEBODY LIKE 4 THAT. AND WHAT WE HAD DONE WHEN DR. CHARLES COLLINS, WHO 5 WAS OUR INSTRUCTOR WAS GOING TO RETIRE, WE HAD TALKED WITH 6 DEAN HUNNICUTT AND MADE A PROPOSAL THAT MAYBE THIS CLASS 7 CAN COME BACK. AND SHE ASSURED US THAT MAYBE SOMETIME IN 8 THE FUTURE IT MAY COME BACK. SO WE SAVED ALL OF THE 9 EQUIPMENT WHICH WAS NECESSARY TO LEARN THIS KIND OF 10 PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. AND WE 11 PROBABLY SPENT A COUPLE OF MONTHS COLLECTING ALL THESE 12 GOOD COMPUTERS AND PUT THEM DOWN IN THE STORAGE AND OTHER 13 THING. 14 AND THEN I USED TO KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THE NEW 15 DEAN WHO FOLLOWED DEAN HUNNICUTT. AND I THINK, NOT THIS 16 JANUARY, BUT THE ONE IN 2011, I FORGET THE NAME OF THE 17 GENTLEMAN WHO WAS THE DEAN OF THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, AND I 18 WENT AND I HAD A TALK WITH HIM. 19 MR. YATES: AUGUSTINE. 20 MR. DALAL: PARDON? 21 MR. YATES: AUGUSTINE. 22 MR. DALAL: YES, DEAN AUGUSTINE. AND WE HAD A 23 COMMON RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE HE KNEW DR. GOODLETT, CARLTON 24 GOODLETT AND WORKED FOR HIM. SO ANYWAY, HE ASSURED ME 25 THAT NONE OF THIS EQUIPMENT WOULD BE THROWN OUT OR MAY 24, 2012 75 1 ANYTHING, AND HE WOULD SEE TO IT THAT IT WAS KEPT AND ALL 2 THIS IN GOOD CONDITION. AND TO OUR SURPRISE, WHEN I FIND 3 OUT THAT ALL OF THEM IS GONE AND RECYCLED AND OTHER THING. 4 IT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THING THAT DISTURBED US THAT OUR 5 CLASSES WERE CANCELED, NOTHING WAS PROMISED. SOMETHING 6 WAS PROMISED -- THE PREVIOUS CHANCELLOR, DON GRIFFIN, AND 7 I AND ALBERT WERE AT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES' MEETING AND HE 8 CAME OUT, AND HE ASSURED US, AND HE PROMISED THAT HE WOULD 9 BRING THE CLASS BACK AND OTHER THING, BUT IT NEVER 10 HAPPENED. 11 ONE MORE THING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO JUST SAY IS 12 THAT WE NEED TWO CLASSES. ONE IS COMPUTER HARDWARE 13 REPAIR. THE OTHER ONE IS AC/DC, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT 14 FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT -- IN THIS PARTICULAR CAMPUS IS 15 SITUATED, THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR 17 THE RECORD. 18 MR. DALAL: YEAH, MY NAME IS SHASHI, 19 S-H-A-I-S-H-I. LAST NAME, D, DAVID, APPLE, LENA, APPLE, 20 LENA, DALAL. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 23 IF I COULD ADDRESS YOUR POINT ABOUT THE FUNDING 24 YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN WORKING OR TALKING WITH -- I MET 25 WITH HIM ONCE AND WE ARE TRYING TO -- MPICT IS A PART OF MAY 24, 2012 76 1 MANY OF THE I.T. DEPARTMENTS AND ICT DEPARTMENTS EFFORT 2 THAT JUST SECURED THIS $5 MILLION GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL 3 GOVERNMENT TO HIRE AND RETRAIN STRUCTURALLY UNEMPLOYED 4 WORKERS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE SOUTHEAST, TO GET ACCESS TO 5 THESE TECH JOBS. 6 SO IT WAS ANNOUNCED MAYBE A MONTH AND A HALF 7 AGO. MPICT IS A REGIONAL GRANT FUNDED PROGRAM THROUGH THE 8 NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION. IT'S HOUSED HERE, BUT THEY 9 ARE WORKING VERY ACTIVELY WITH OUR GERMAINE DEPARTMENTS IN 10 TECH TO ACTUALLY GET -- THEY ACTUALLY SECURED A GRANT, AND 11 THEY ARE GETTING THINK THESE PROGRAMS UP AND RUNNING. 12 MR. YATES: OKAY. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WHAT I SUGGEST YOU DO IS TALK 14 TO PHYLLIS MCGUIRE AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT IS. IT'S 15 A GRANT THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN PART WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE 16 OF ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. 17 MR. YATES: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT WAS A BIG COO FOR THE CITY, 19 A BIG COO FOR OUR STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHEAST, 20 AND YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT. 21 MR. YATES: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 23 MR. YATES: AS LONG AS IT TRICKLES DOWN BECAUSE 24 (INAUDIBLE). 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AND IF -- THAT 7,000 IS NOTHING MAY 24, 2012 77 1 COMPARED TO THE 5 MILLION THAT WE GOT. 2 MR. YATES: RIGHT. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I WOULD LOOK INTO THAT. 4 MR. YATES: OKAY, I WILL. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, THANKS. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO WE WOULDN'T -- JUST TO 7 TRUSTEE NGO, WE WOULDN'T KNOW IF THEY HAD SCHEDULED ANY OF 8 THE CLASSES -- OR BECAUSE THESE ARE FOR CLASSES. 9 MR. YATES: WELL, IT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF 10 IT. WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF 12 IT. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: THE CHRONICLE BUSINESS SECTION RAN 14 A STORY ON THIS IS GRANT ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO, SO JUST 15 GOOGLE IT. 16 MR. YATES: OKAY. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN YOU CAN TALK TO -- 18 MR. YATES: AND THEN FOLLOW THROUGH. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: -- (INAUDIBLE) IN HIS OFFICE OR 20 YOU CAN TALK TO PHYLLIS. 21 MR. YATES: OKAY. 22 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I WAS GOING TO SAY 23 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOME FOLLOW-UP TO 24 SEE WHERE THE GRANT IS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S 25 REJECTED, WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, DR. MCGUIRE IS NOT MAY 24, 2012 78 1 ABLE TO BE WITH US TONIGHT FOR A FAMILY EMERGENCY, SO WE 2 CAN COME BACK TO YOU. 3 I CAN TELL YOU HAVING WORKED WITH ENOUGH FEDERAL 4 GRANTS THAT OFTENTIMES A SINGLE INSTITUTION IS THE 5 RECIPIENT OF A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, AND THEY BECOME THE 6 ONES WHO TAKE CARE OF THE FISCAL DUTIES, BUT THE FEDS 7 DECIDE WHO IS GOING TO GET WHAT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE 8 AREN'T OUT THERE TRYING TO GET IT FOR YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I POINT OUT THIS ITEM IS 10 NOT ON THE AGENDA. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES, RIGHT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I REALLY DON'T FEEL 13 COMFORTABLE -- 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- DISCUSSING THIS FURTHER. 16 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IF YOU WANT MORE, WE 17 CAN BRING IT TO YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 19 MR. YATES: THANK YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 21 MR. YATES: I WILL BRING IT BACK. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 23 MR. DALAL: CAN I JUST -- 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY WE 25 ARE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. IT'S NOT ON MAY 24, 2012 79 1 THE AGENDA. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THIS IS HIS REPORT, SO I JUST 3 WANTED TO KIND OF -- 4 MR. YATES: RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- COMMENT ON YOUR REPORT AND 6 JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK 7 THIS IS KIND OF THE FRUSTRATION WITH FOLKS IN THE 8 SOUTHEAST WHERE PEOPLE DO WRITE GRANTS ON BEHALF OF THE 9 SOUTHEAST. 10 MR. YATES: RIGHT. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THEN THE MONEY GETS 12 APPROVED AND THEN NO ONE IN THE COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY ABLE 13 TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MONEY OR THE SERVICES THAT KIND 14 OF FOLLOW THE MONEY. 15 SO I WANT TO SAY THAT -- 16 MR. YATES: THANK YOU. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT 18 BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT THERE WAS A SEVEN -- A $5 MILLION 19 GRANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP FOLKS IN THE 20 SOUTHEAST GET RETRAINED AND GO INTO TECH SECTOR, BUT THEN 21 YOU DON'T SEE THE CLASSES OR THE SERVICES OF THE 22 PROGRAMS -- 23 MR. YATES: WE DON'T EVEN HEAR ABOUT IT. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- THAT GO TO -- YEAH, AND SO 25 THAT'S KIND OF -- I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION. AND, YOU MAY 24, 2012 80 1 KNOW, I THINK THE BOARD WILL WORK WITH DR. FISHER AND VICE 2 CHANCELLOR MCGUIRE TO FIGURE IT OUT. 3 MR. YATES: THANK YOU. 4 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: CAN I MAKE A QUICK 5 COMMENT -- 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: -- PRESIDENT RIZZO. 8 WHEN MR. DALAL -- SAY YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN, 9 PLEASE. 10 MR. DALAL: ME? 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YEAH. 12 MR. DALAL: DALAL. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: DALAL, WHEN I WAS OVER AT 14 THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF ME WHAT 15 SHOULD HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF COMPUTER MATERIALS THAT WERE 16 IN A LOCKED UP SPACE DOWN ON THE FIRST FLOOR OR DOWN IN 17 THE BASEMENT. AND I DO KNOW THAT CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN WAS 18 ASKED THE SAME QUESTION, AND HE WAS GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. 19 BECAUSE HE IS NOT HERE AND YOU ARE TAKING HIS 20 PLACE, COULD YOU FOLLOW-UP, DR. FISHER, ABOUT THE 21 MATERIALS THAT THEY HAD LOCKED UP THAT SUDDENLY 22 DISAPPEARED AND WERE NEVER -- 23 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OH, WE NEVER HEARD 24 THAT PART, BUT OKAY. 25 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WAS I CORRECT? MAY 24, 2012 81 1 MR. YATES: THERE WAS A WHOLE STORAGE ROOM FULL 2 OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS DONATED. 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: ALL RIGHT. I AM SURE 4 DR. FISHER WILL BE GETTING IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO HELP YOU 5 RESOLVE THAT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM 7 THE ACADEMIC SENATE, KAREN SAGINOR, PRESIDENT. 8 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 9 IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE SOME NEW 10 OFFICERS TO YOU THIS EVENING. 11 OUR NEW SECRETARY, JACQUES ARCENEAUX. AND OUR 12 NEW SECOND VICE PRESIDENT, KITTY MORIWAKI. 13 OUR NEW FIRST VICE PRESIDENT VENETTE COOK, WHO 14 WAS SECRETARY LAST YEAR, IS ON HER WAY TO UGANDA. SO SHE 15 CAN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT SHE WILL COME WITH ME TO THE 16 NEXT MEETING WHEN SHE IS AVAILABLE. 17 AND I WAS RE-ELECTED AS PRESIDENT, SO I WILL BE 18 IN THIS ROLE FOR ANOTHER YEAR. 19 BOTH JACQUES AND KITTY ARE TWO OF THE MEMBERS OF 20 THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL WHO ARE IN THEIR FIRST TERM EVER. 21 THEIR SECOND YEAR FOR THEIR FIRST TERM EVER. 22 WE HAD ELECTIONS RECENTLY WHERE ABOUT HALF OF 23 THE MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL WERE UP FOR ELECTION, 24 HALF THE SEATS WERE UP FOR ELECTION. AND AT THIS POINT, 25 ACTUALLY HALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE IN THEIR MAY 24, 2012 82 1 FIRST TERM, EITHER THEIR FIRST YEAR OR THEIR SECOND YEAR 2 OF THEIR FIRST TERM EVER HAVING BEEN ON EXECUTIVE COUNCIL. 3 ABOUT -- YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO KNOW, ABOUT 4 HALF OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR. ABOUT 5 TWO-THIRDS OF OUR COUNCIL ARE WOMEN. WE HAVE OUR SHARE OF 6 QUEER PEOPLE, SUCH AS MYSELF. IF YOU WANTED MORE DETAILS 7 ON DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU NEED TO CONSULT HR, BUT THAT MUCH I 8 CAN GIVE YOU. 9 WE INCLUDE LIBRARIANS, COUNSELORS, INSTRUCTORS, 10 INSTRUCTORS OF CREDIT AND OF NONCREDIT, ABOUT 18 11 DEPARTMENTS OR SO. THIS YEAR THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL HAS 12 VERY STRONG REPRESENTATION FROM THE ARTS, INCLUDING A 13 COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THEATER ARTS. AND I THINK THAT'S THE 14 FIRST TIME AT LEAST IN MY MEMORY THAT THERE'S BEEN SOMEONE 15 FROM THEATER ARTS ON EXECUTIVE COUNCIL. 16 WE ARE A LITTLE WEAK IN CTE REPRESENTATION THIS 17 YEAR. IT'S GONE DOWN. AND WE'VE HAVE ALWAYS STRUGGLED TO 18 GET FOLKS FROM THE HARD SCIENCES TO COME OUT OF THEIR LABS 19 TO EXECUTIVE COUNCIL. BUT WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD GROUP I 20 THINK FOR THE COMING HERE YEAR. 21 I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A DETAILED REPORT. I 22 DID PREPARE A REPORT OF WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL OR 23 THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL'S WORK FOR THIS YEAR. I GAVE YOU A 24 COPY OF IT. I PUT SOME ON THE TABLE. THIS IS THE FIRST 25 YEAR WE'VE DONE THIS. I HOPE THIS BECOMES AN ANNUAL EVENT MAY 24, 2012 83 1 TO HAVE SORT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL 2 DID OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR. 3 I WILL MENTION ONE EVENT THAT I WENT TO THIS 4 WEEK ACTUALLY WHICH WAS THE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION FOR -- 5 AT THE JOHN ADAMS CAMPUS FOR OUR TRANSITIONAL STUDIES 6 PROGRAM. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON WAS THERE AND GAVE A REALLY 8 BEAUTIFUL SPEECH. AND I -- IT WAS A VERY, VERY WONDERFUL 9 EVENT. I URGE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER COMING TO IT NEXT YEAR. 10 THERE WERE 100 AND SOME GRADUATES. 50 OF THEM THERE IN 11 PERSON TO RECEIVE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS. IT WAS A 12 VERY EXCITING, VERY HEARTWARMING, WONDERFUL THING TO SEE 13 ALL THESE FOLKS TAKING THEIR NEXT EDUCATIONAL STEPS. AND 14 THEY WERE ALL ENCOURAGED TO STAY WITH CITY COLLEGE FOR, 15 YOU KNOW, COLLEGE COURSES GOING FORWARD. 16 BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO AFT, I WANT TO JUST 17 TAKE A MOMENT TO JUST SORT OF TALK TO YOU ALL. WE ARE 18 GOING TO BE WORKING HARD TOGETHER ON THE BUDGET OVER THE 19 COMING YEARS. I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I WAS VERY 20 EXCITED TO BE ELECTED AGAIN FOR PRESIDENT. AND THEN WHEN 21 THIS MORNING CAME AND I THOUGHT NOW I AM GOING TO A BOARD 22 MEETING TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY THE LAST TIME I 23 GAVE A CONSTITUTE REPORT WHICH WAS IN APRIL, YOU KNOW, I 24 CAME UP AND I AM SO FRIGHTENED THAT I GRIPPED THE PODIUM 25 AT THAT PARTICULAR ONE SO THAT I WOULDN'T SHAKE. AND IT'S MAY 24, 2012 84 1 NOT JUST THE NERVOUSNESS OF SPEAKING IN PUBLIC BECAUSE 2 I'VE DONE THAT A LOT, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE 3 INTERACTIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE OFTEN JUST VERY DISTURBING 4 TO ME. 5 AND I AM GOING TO LOOK FOR WAYS THAT I CAN MAKE 6 IT BE DIFFERENT, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT EACH ONE OF YOU 7 COULD MAKE THOSE INTERACTIONS BE DIFFERENT, ANY ONE OF 8 YOU. OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD, 9 BUT ANY ONE OF YOU CAN MAKE THOSE INTERACTIONS COME OUT 10 DIFFERENTLY. 11 AT THE TIMES WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING ACADEMIC 12 AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS AND IT'S MY JOB UNDER TITLE V TO 13 COME TO YOU AND TELL YOU, WELL, THIS IS WHAT THE SENATE 14 THOUGHT ABOUT THIS. THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND IT'S 15 MY JOB TO DO THAT. AND IF I HAVE TO DO IT IN FEAR, I WILL 16 DO IT IN FEAR, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WASN'T LIKE 17 THAT. AND I AM WONDERING IF MAYBE THAT COULD BE CHANGED. 18 THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 20 MS. MESSER: ALISA MESSER, AFT 2121. 21 I APPLAUD KAREN FOR TALKING ABOUT THE 22 ENVIRONMENT AND THE CONVERSATION. AND I ALSO WANT TO 23 THANK, PRESIDENT RIZZO, FOR COMING AND SPEAKING WITH OUR 24 EXECUTIVE BOARD RECENTLY ABOUT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AT THE 25 COLLEGE. THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION. MAY 24, 2012 85 1 I'VE COME BEFORE THIS BOARD ON A NUMBER OF 2 OCCASIONS AND ENCOURAGED EVERYONE TO WORK TOWARDS UNITY 3 AND TO WORK TOGETHER OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND I 4 HOPE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. I KNOW THAT 5 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO DO. AND I 6 THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ALL HOPEFULLY HOLD EACH OTHER 7 ACCOUNTABLE TO DO. 8 WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE COMING TO YOU TONIGHT NOT 9 VERY PLEASED WITH SOME OF THE NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS 10 RECENTLY AND SO FACULTY HAVE ASKED ME TO DELIVER A MESSAGE 11 TO YOU ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY. 12 AND THAT'S PARTICULARLY ABOUT NOT WANTING TO SEE 13 UNILATERAL IMPOSITION OF SALARY CUTS OF ASKING THE 14 DISTRICT TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH. THE DISTRICT HAS 15 COME TO US WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE TROMBONE CLAUSE 16 WHICH IS IN OUR CONTRACT. BUT WE NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW, AND 17 WE WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND, THAT THE TROMBONE 18 CLAUSE ANTICIPATES AN ACTUAL PROCESS, AND IT'S A PROCESS 19 THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. SO PART OF THAT PROCESS IS THAT IT 20 HAPPENS AFTER A STATE BUDGET IS ADOPTED. ONE THING THAT 21 HASN'T HAPPENED. 22 MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT ANTICIPATES JOINT ANALYSIS 23 BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE UNION AT THE NEGOTIATING 24 TABLE OVER WHAT THE BUDGET SITUATION LOOKS LIKE BASED ON 25 THAT BUDGET. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS JUST MAY 24, 2012 86 1 RECENTLY BEGUN TO HAPPEN. IT'S HAPPENING VERY LATE IN THE 2 GAME, BUT IT IS BEGINNING TO HAPPEN. SO WE ARE PLEASED 3 THAT THAT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN AND THAT WE SEEM TO BE 4 MOVING TO A SLIGHTLY BETTER PLACE. 5 I DO WANT TO SAY THAT EVERYONE, INCLUDING AFT, 6 PERHAPS ESPECIALLY AFT, BUT ALL OF US AND I KNOW ALL THE 7 EMPLOYEES AT THE COLLEGE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE 8 DISTRICT'S BOTTOM LINE AND ABOUT THE BUDGET. THAT'S WHY 9 WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S WHY WE SPEND 10 SO MUCH TIME ADVOCATING FOR THE BUDGET STATEWIDE HERE. WE 11 ARE WORKING ON THE PARCEL TAX. CFT, STATEWIDE, CURRENTLY 12 HAS A CAMPAIGN MOVING FORWARD TO SEE 100,000 NEW STUDENTS 13 OR STUDENTS RESTORED INTO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. 14 WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD ON THAT. YOU WILL HEAR MORE 15 ABOUT THAT SOON. AND IT'S WHY FACULTY HAVE CONSISTENTLY 16 STEPPED UP AS HAVE OVER EMPLOYEE GROUPS TO MAKE SACRIFICES 17 OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SO I HOPE THAT THAT ISN'T 18 FORGOTTEN. AND I HOPE THE MANY YEARS WE'VE HAD OF TRYING 19 TO WORK TOGETHER UNDER THOSE SITUATIONS CONTINUES. 20 OUR FACULTY DON'T WANT TO SIGN OVER A BLANK 21 CHECK TO THE DISTRICT. AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY 22 REASONABLE THING. SO WE'D ALSO ASK THAT YOU RESPECT OUR 23 DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. FACULTY HAVE NEVER BEFORE BEEN ASKED 24 TO RATIFY A BUDGET WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO DO 25 NOW. MAY 24, 2012 87 1 I ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE -- WE RECENTLY HAD 2 ELECTIONS. WE HAVE THREE NEW OFFICERS, SEVERAL NEW 3 EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBERS. ONE OF THEM IS HERE. I WANT TO 4 INTRODUCE NANCY MACKOWSKY, WHO IS OUR NEW VICE PRESIDENT. 5 AND YOU WILL BE MEETING SOON JENNY WORELY, WHO 6 IS OUR NEW SECRETARY AND PATTY CHONG-DELON, WHO IS OUR NEW 7 TREASURER. AND SEVERAL NEW EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBERS. 8 I WANT TO THANK GUS, WHO IS ONE OF OUR NEW 9 EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBERS, WHO HAS BEEN VP FOR THE LAST 10 COUPLE OF YEARS AND WAS PRESIDENT BEFORE ME. 11 SO IN LIGHT OF TRYING TO MOVE TOGETHER WITH SOME 12 UNITY TOWARDS A PARCEL TAX AND WE HOPE TOWARDS A BETTER 13 ENVIRONMENT OVERALL AND A BETTER BARGAINING ENVIRONMENT AS 14 WELL. 15 I WANTED TO INVITE EVERYONE HERE, INCLUDING THE 16 BOARD AND CHANCELLOR FISHER TO OUR PARTY TOMORROW. AFT 17 HAS A PARTY AT THE END OF EACH SEMESTER AND THAT WILL BE 18 AT THE PIERRE COSTE ROOM FROM 3:00 TO 6:00 P.M. SO IN 19 GOOD FAITH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STOP BY MAYBE ON YOUR WAY 20 TO LAVENDER GRADUATION, WHICH WILL BE HAPPENING FOR THE 21 FIRST TIME WHICH WE ARE ALL SO EXCITED TO SEE HAPPENING. 22 THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND YOU ARE ALL INVITED AS IS 23 EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. 24 AND THEN IF NOT, WE WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY AT 25 COMMENCEMENT AND WISH YOU ALL -- WELL, I WILL BE SEEING MAY 24, 2012 88 1 ALL OVER THE SUMMER, BUT I WISH EVERYBODY A GOOD SUMMER. 2 THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU OUR NEXT ITEM IS 4 ITEM X, THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT. 5 VICE CHANCELLOR GOLDSTEIN. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY, THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL 7 REPORT, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THE LATEST 8 DEVELOPMENTS FROM SACRAMENTO. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO USE 9 THE POWERPOINT. 10 WHILE WE ARE PASSING THE PAPER AROUND, I WANT TO 11 CORRECT SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER WITH REGARDS TO THE 12 PARCEL TAX. THE WAY THE LANGUAGE WAS WRITTEN IN THE POLL 13 WOULD DICTATE THAT THAT TAX BE A RESTRICTED FUND. BUT OF 14 COURSE, THAT'S NOT THE FULL LEGAL TEXT THAT YOU WOULD BE 15 ADOPTING. AND THE FULL TEXT, WHICH YOU WILL SEE AT YOUR 16 NEXT MEETING, COULD BE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT WOULD ALLOW 17 IT TO BE IN THE UNRESTRICTED FUND. AND WE CAN TALK MORE 18 ABOUT THAT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. 19 ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN GET STARTED WHILE YOU ARE 20 LOOKING AT THE PAPER. OKAY, THESE SLIDES ARE FROM 21 BASICALLY FROM THE LEAGUE, WORKING IN CONJUNCTION I ASSUME 22 WITH THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. 23 SO I THINK TO MAKE THIS GO SMOOTHLY, JOHN, I 24 WILL CUE YOU TO GO THROUGH THEM. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT 25 ONE. NEXT. NEXT. MAY 24, 2012 89 1 OKAY, THIS IS A GRAPHIC SUMMARY OF WHAT THE 2 GOVERNOR TALKED ABOUT FOR HIS MAY REVISION FOR COMMUNITY 3 COLLEGES. IT TRANSLATES TO TWO SCENARIOS "A" AND "B" BUT 4 THERE'S KIND OF A FOOTNOTE TO "B" NOW. "A AND "B" ARE 5 DIFFERENT BECAUSE ONE ASSUMES THAT THE GOVERNOR'S TAX 6 PROPOSAL PASSES AND THE OTHER PRESUMES THAT IT DOES NOT. 7 AND FOR THE COLLEGES AS A SYSTEM, IF THE TAXES 8 PASS WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED IS $313 MILLION TO DEAL 9 WITH THE CASH PROBLEM OF DEFERRALS. NO NEW BUDGET 10 AUTHORITY, NO NEW MONEY FOR APPORTIONMENT OR FOR 11 ENROLLMENT, RATHER PUTTING ALL THAT MONEY INTO PAYING US 12 ON TIME BECAUSE WE ARE PAID QUITE LATE THESE DAYS AND THAT 13 CAUSES ONGOING CASH NIGHTMARES FOR COLLEGES LIKE OURSELVES 14 AND OTHERS. 15 THAT ALL CASH NO BUDGET SCENARIO THOUGH IS ONE 16 THAT IS REALLY, IN MY OPINION AND THE OPINION OF MANY 17 OTHERS, NOT WHAT'S BEST ADVISED AT THIS TIME FOR THE 18 COLLEGES. IF THAT TAX WAS SUCCESSFUL, WE NEED SOME BUDGET 19 RELIEF. AS YOU'LL SEE, WE ARE LOOKING AT A $14 MILLION 20 HOLD IF THAT TAX PASSES. AND JUST GETTING CASH WOULD BE 21 GREAT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE AS GOOD AS GETTING SOME CASH AND 22 A LOT OF BUDGET. 23 NOW THE GOVERNOR ALSO PROPOSED $28 PER FTES FOR 24 MANDATED COSTS FOR CITY COLLEGE. THAT WILL END UP GIVING 25 US WE ESTIMATE $950,000. AND THEN SCENARIO "B" THERE'S NO MAY 24, 2012 90 1 NEW CASH. AND IN FACT THERE'S A TRIGGERED CUT, LIKE WE 2 HAD THIS YEAR, A LOSS OF $286 MILLION. I WILL SHOW YOU 3 OUR IMPACT LATER FOR THE WHOLE SYSTEM. AND, OF COURSE, 4 THE MANDATES FOR BLOCK GRANTS WOULD BE IN QUESTION AT THAT 5 POINT. NEXT. 6 THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES PLAY A VERY LARGE 7 ROLE IN OUR FUNDING SCENARIO FOR NEXT YEAR. THE GOVERNOR 8 HAS PROPOSED $341 MILLION OF EXPECTED MONEY FROM THE WIND 9 DOWN OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES TO BE USED AND MADE 10 AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THE COMBINATION OF 11 ONGOING AND ONE TIME. THERE WOULD BE A SMALL AMOUNT 12 16 MILLION THE COLLEGES WOULD GET TO KEEP AS AN INCENTIVE 13 TO GET US TO WORK HARD TO GET THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES 14 TO GIVE UP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 15 BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IS THAT'S AN 16 ESTIMATE AND THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES HAVE NO PROTECTION IF 17 THAT ESTIMATE IS WRONG. JUST LIKE WE HAVE NO PROTECTION 18 IF THE STUDENT FEE ESTIMATE IS WRONG AND NO PROTECTION IF 19 THE STATEWIDE PROPERTY TAX NUMBER IS WRONG. NEXT. 20 SO THAT'S AN ENORMOUS DOWNSIDE RISK. THAT RDA 21 PROPERTY TAX SHORTFALL COULD BE IN THE WORST, WORST, 22 WORST-CASE SCENARIO ADDING A LOT MORE TO OUR PROBLEM. 23 IT'S NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING ITEM, BUT I WILL SHOW YOU THE 24 NUMBERS IN A MINUTE. NEXT. NEXT. NEXT. NEXT. NEXT. 25 ONE MORE. KEEP GOING. MAY 24, 2012 91 1 WE DIDN'T HAVE THE YELLOW GRAPH. SORRY ABOUT 2 THAT. 3 THERE WAS A NICE CHART WE HAVE BEEN USING. 4 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: MY FAVORITE CHARTS. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT'S THE CHANCELLOR'S FAVORITE 6 CHARTS. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT WAS THERE FOR 7 EVERY PRESENTATION. 8 ARE WE HOOKED UP TO THE WEB? 9 ALL RIGHT. SO IT SHOWS YOU IN A BAR GRAPH THAT 10 THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE SYSTEM GOT IN 2007 IF YOU IMAGINE 11 THAT AS HORIZONTAL LINE. I WILL BE YOUR GRAPH FOR A 12 MINUTE. AND IT'S CUTTING ACROSS. AND THE BARS WENT DOWN 13 BECAUSE OF THE DEEP CUTS TO THE SYSTEM FROM THE STATE AND 14 UNTIL 2014-2015, I BELIEVE, THOSE TWO THINGS DON'T 15 INTERSECT AGAIN. SO THAT'S SAYING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY 16 THAT THIS SYSTEM GOT IN 2007, WE DON'T EVEN GET BACK TO 17 THAT LEVEL TO 2014-2015. AND THAT'S NOT ADJUSTED FOR 18 INFLATION. SO THAT'S A REALLY LONG STRETCH TO GET BACK 19 JUST TO WHERE WE WERE. AND, OF COURSE, YOU'D RUN THOSE A 20 YEAR OR TWO FURTHER OUT TO ADJUST FOR INFLATION. THAT 21 GIVES US A SENSE OF HOW MUCH WE HAVE BEEN CUT -- 22 LET'S GO TO THE OTHER HANDOUT. 23 -- AND HOW MUCH GROUND IT WILL TAKE FOR US TO 24 MAKE UP. 25 SO THROW THAT ONE DOWN TO THE BOTTOM. AND THEN MAY 24, 2012 92 1 DO THE SCENARIO ONE. OTHER. GREAT. 2 SO IS THIS SAN FRANCISCO? 3 CFO BILMONT: YES, IT IS. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHAT IT 5 MEANS FOR CITY COLLEGE. SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO THE 6 QUICK COMPARISON. 7 OKAY, IF THE GOVERNOR'S TAX PLAN WINS, THEN WE 8 DON'T GET ANY NEW BUDGET. ZERO, ZERO, ZERO. NO NEW FTES 9 THAT THE STATE WILL FUND. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY TO 10 BE WHERE WE ARE. AND IF THE GOVERNOR'S PLAN FAILS, THE 11 NEWEST NUMBER WHICH WAS JUST REVISED, WE HAD A NUMBER OF 12 $9,005,000. THEY'VE CHANGED THAT TO $8,754,000, A LITTLE 13 IMPROVEMENT FROM A FEW DAYS AGO. 14 BUT NOW, AND THAT WOULD BE THE CUT THAT WOULD 15 RESULT AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE GOVERNOR'S TAX PACKAGE 16 FAILING. 17 WITH AN ASSOCIATED WORKLOAD REDUCTION THAT YOU 18 SEE BELOW, THEY WOULD BE DEFUNDING ABOUT ANOTHER 2000 FTES 19 FROM CITY COLLEGE. SO THEY WOULD TAKE OUR BASE FROM WHAT 20 WILL PROBABLY BE JUST A LITTLE LESS THAN 34,000 DOWN TO 21 BELOW 32,000 IF THAT HAPPENS. 22 AND THEN THERE'S THE REDEVELOPMENT RISK WHICH 23 THE FOLKS AT THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE AND COMMUNITY 24 COLLEGE LEAGUE HAVE BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO SHOW US THAT IF 25 THAT HOUSE OF CARDS TRULY COLLAPSED, WE WOULD BE LOSING MAY 24, 2012 93 1 ANOTHER $10 MILLION, $10.4 MILLION, A GINORMOUS DEFICIT 2 FACTOR. 3 I WILL REMIND YOU, THAT'S NOT AN ALL OR NOTHING 4 PROPOSAL, ALL OR NOTHING SITUATION. REDEVELOPMENT MONEY 5 COULD BE SHORT, A CERTAIN AMOUNT STATEWIDE. AND IT COULD 6 RESULT IN A VERY MODEST CHANGE IN A DEFICIT FACTOR FOR 7 CITY COLLEGE. THIS IS THE ONE THAT SAYS NONE OF IT COMES 8 THROUGH LITERALLY. AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S EXTREMELY 9 UNLIKELY, BUT THEY'VE SHONE US THE NUMBER NONETHELESS. 10 QUESTIONS ON THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL SO FAR? 11 IF NOT, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR BUDGET. 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: ON THE FTES, BECAUSE 13 WE'VE TALKED A LOT FTES, YOU REALIZE THE VERY HIGH DEGREE 14 OF AMBIGUITY THAT WE HAVE HERE. NAMELY WE MUST REACH OUR 15 CAP TO GET THE MONEY THAT'S EVEN IN THE BUDGET HE IS GOING 16 TO SHARE WITH YOU. AND SO WE ARE PUSHING HARD THIS SUMMER 17 AND THIS FALL TO BE AS PRODUCTIVE AS WE CAN, SO WE THINK 18 WE CAN GET THERE. SO WHEN I AM GONE, AND ALL THE WORST 19 THINGS HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER, I AM TELLING YOU NOW THAT MEANS 20 SPRING IS GOING TO BE VERY SMALL. BUT IF YOU WAIT AND 21 DON'T DO IT NOW AND THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PASSES, YOU 22 WON'T MAKE HALF. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SO WE ARE SORT OF 25 BETTING ON THAT IT WILL, SO WE DON'T TURN MONEY BACK TO MAY 24, 2012 94 1 THE STATE. I DON'T BELIEVE IN GIVING MONEY BACK TO THE 2 STATE EVER. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF BOTH MEASURES FAILED 3 IN NOVEMBER, THEN YOUR SPRING SCHEDULE IS GOING TO BE VERY 4 SMALL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY 5 UNDERSTANDS. THAT'S WHY WE ARE PUSHING NOW HOPING THAT IT 6 WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT ALL UP 7 COME SPRING IF IN FACT THE MEASURES PASS AND WE ARE ABLE 8 TO STAY THERE SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET ME -- 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN 12 PUSHING THE CAP SO MUCH I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THEY 13 MIGHT CHANGE THE CAP ON US. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION 15 ABOUT WHAT OUR BUDGET WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN WE PASS IT AT 16 THE END OF JUNE. WHAT SCENARIO ARE WE REQUIRED TO PLAN 17 FOR OR REQUIRED TO PASS THE BUDGET? 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE GOVERNOR'S MESSAGE IS IT 19 HAS REALLY BEEN TO PLAN FOR HIS TAX MEASURE. 20 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: TO PASS. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: TO PASS. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AND THEN THERE WILL BE TRIGGER 24 CUTS THAT WE'D HAVE TO DEAL WITH IF IT FAILED. 25 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. MAY 24, 2012 95 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 2 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND THE TRIGGER CUTS 3 ARE ALMOST, ALMOST ENTIRELY EDUCATION -- 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S RIGHT. 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: -- WHICH IS PART OF 6 THE STRATEGY. BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO CUT K-12 AND HIGHER 7 EDUCATION THAT THAT'S AN EASIER SELL, WHICH IT PROBABLY 8 IS, WITH RESPECT TO THE SALES TAX. SO THE DIRECTION HE'S 9 GIVEN TO EVERYBODY, INCLUDING HIS OWN AGENCIES, IS TO 10 CONSIDER THAT IT WILL PASS. 11 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO OF COURSE IS OKAY, WE WILL DO 12 THAT. AND WHAT WE WILL BRING TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL IS 13 A BUDGET THAT ASSUMES IT WILL PASS. AND AS I'VE SAID IN A 14 NUMBER OF SETTINGS, THEN JULY 1 WE HAVE TO START TALKING 15 ABOUT WHAT IF IT DOESN'T. 16 PLUS REMEMBER THAT EVEN THE BUDGET -- EVEN IF WE 17 BRING YOU THE BALANCED BUDGET, IT INCLUDES A LARGE NUMBER 18 OF ONE-TIME CUTS WHICH IS STILL A HOLE FOR NEXT YEAR EVEN 19 IF IT PASSES. SO WE ARE RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME SITUATION. 20 THE DIFFERENCE IS WE HAVE 10 OR 11 MONTHS TO DEAL WITH IT 21 INSTEAD OF FOUR WEEKS. 22 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: JUST FOLLOWING UP, THIS IS 25 BASICALLY OUR MAY BUDGET HEARING, BUT WHEN YOU TALK MAY 24, 2012 96 1 ABOUT -- 2 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: WE CAN'T HEAR. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INCREASE 4 IN CLASSES FOR FALL TO MEET CAP, I AM LOOKING AT A NUMBER 5 HERE THAT -- MAYBE WE ARE ON A DIFFERENT PAGE. THIS ONE 6 WITHOUT -- NOT THE ORANGE. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: (INAUDIBLE). 8 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. SO I AM LOOKING AT TWO 9 NUMBERS FOR 2012-2013, A 2012-2013 WITH STEPS BUDGET AND A 10 PROPOSED 2012-2013 AS OF 5-20. DO YOU SEE THAT? 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 13 PUTTING MONEY INTO CLASSES FOR FALL TO MAKE CAP AND KIND 14 OF BETTING THAT -- BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE CAP PUTTING 15 THAT MONEY IN -- 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TO GET THE FTES BACK, I'M 18 LOOKING -- THE INCREASE I SEE HERE IS -- WELL, IT'S A MIX 19 BUT -- 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: CAN I SAY SOMETHING BEFORE 21 YOU -- BECAUSE THIS MAY HELP YOU WITH YOUR QUESTION. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: MAKE ME SHORT-WINDED, PLEASE. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALL RIGHT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IN MAY 24, 2012 97 1 WHAT'S COLUMN U AT THE END THERE AND EVEN COLUMN G -- 2 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- THOSE ARE BUDGETS THAT WE 4 CANNOT AFFORD. THOSE ARE $200 MILLION BUDGETS. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SERIOUSLY. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT ARE WELL BEYOND WHAT WE 9 ARE GOING TO HAVE AVAILABLE IN RESOURCES, EXCEPT FOR ONE 10 SCENARIO. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S GREAT. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SO WHY ARE WE SHOWING THEM TO 13 YOU? 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I GET WHY YOU ARE SHOWING IT TO 15 ME. 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT THE QUESTION I HAD WAS HOW YOU 18 ARE GOING TO GET TO THAT INCREASE CLASS SCHEDULE IN THE 19 FALL. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO -- YOUR -- THE 20 DIFFERENT SCENARIOS ARE EITHER THE OVERLOAD FOR FACULTY 21 AND THE SUBS ESSENTIALLY SWITCH IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT 22 THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT. 23 AM I WRONG? I MEAN HOW WOULD YOU BASICALLY FUND 24 THIS? I AM LOOKING AT 1325, 1333. 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. MAY 24, 2012 98 1 TRUSTEE NGO: AND LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM NUMBER 2 OF TOTAL CERTIFICATED SALARIES AT EITHER 98 OR 99. AND I 3 KNOW THIS IS A FANTASTICAL NUMBER. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OR THESE ARE FANTASTICAL NUMBERS, 6 BUT IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THE RATIO AT WHICH ANYWAY, ARE 7 THOSE RATIOS YOU ARE LOOKING AT TO -- HOW WE WOULD 8 BASICALLY FILL THOSE SCHEDULES IN THE FALL WITH OVERLOAD 9 OR WITH A REDUCTION, A COMBINATION OF REDUCTION AND 10 OVERLOAD -- AN INCREASE IN THE OVERLOAD AND A REDUCTION OF 11 SUBS. AND I AM LOOKING -- I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I WOULD DROP THE SUBS PART FOR 13 A SECOND. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE ARE ONLY HIRING FOUR 16 FULL-TIME FACULTY NEXT YEAR, AND THEY ARE ALL IN THE TWO 17 NURSING PROGRAMS. SO TO THE EXTENT SECTIONS ARE ADDED, 18 THEY WILL ALL BE DONE VIA PART-TIMERS OR OVERLOAD FOR 19 EXISTING FULL-TIMERS, ONE OF THE TWO METHODS. 20 AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, WHAT YOU 21 ARE REALLY LOOKING AT IS JUST A PARTIAL COMPARISON. IF 22 YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S IN THE 23 BUDGET THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD, ON LINE 20, PAY BY LOAD, 24 THAT'S THE LARGEST CATEGORY FOR PART-TIME INSTRUCTION. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I SEE. MAY 24, 2012 99 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YOU COULD SEE IN COLUMN E 2 $14.7 MILLION WORTH OF ACTIVITY IN THE CURRENT YEAR. AND 3 THEN THERE'S ALSO EXPENDITURES FOR FACULTY PARTLY FOR PAY 4 BY LOAD DOWN BY LINE 91. THE 3.56 MILLION ARE THE BASIC 5 SKILLS CLASSES. THAT'S A TRANSFER OUT SO FAR. 6 NEXT YEAR, WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSOLIDATING. WE 7 ARE NOT GOING TO DO THE TRANSFER OUT FOR BASIC SKILLS 8 CLASSES. AND SO YOU SEE THAT NUMBER IS SIGNIFICANTLY 9 HIGHER IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FROM 14.7 TO 18.3, BUT IN 10 YET ONE MORE MANEUVER WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REDUCE -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I SEE. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- TOTAL SPENDING IN THE MAJOR 13 ACCOUNTS FOR INSTRUCTION, FULL-TIME FACULTY SCHEDULE ONE, 14 PAY BY LOAD, AND REGULAR HOURS TO REFLECT THE SCHEDULE WE 15 ARE REALLY GOING FORWARD WITH NEXT YEAR. AND JUST TO TURN 16 IT ONE MORE TIME FOR YOU. IT'S NOT AS DEEP A CUT THAT WE 17 INITIALLY TALKED ABOUT. 18 AS YOU MAY RECALL, DURING THE LAST PRESENTATIONS 19 THAT DR. GRIFFIN MADE, WE TALKED ABOUT A 8.5 PERCENT CUT 20 FOR CREDIT, 12 PERCENT FOR NONCREDIT. THAT TRANSLATED 21 INTO ABOUT 900 SECTIONS, AN ESTIMATED SAVINGS OF 22 $5.4 MILLION. 23 SINCE DR. FISHER HAS COME HERE AND RIGHTLY 24 ASKED, CAN THE OFFICE OF INSTRUCTION SHOW ME THAT THAT 25 SCHEDULE GENERATE ENOUGH ENROLLMENT FOR CAP, WE'VE MAY 24, 2012 100 1 REVISITED THAT AND ARE NOW CUTTING FEWER THAN 900 SECTIONS 2 NET, IN FACT PROBABLY FEWER THAN 700 SECTIONS. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AND SO SOME OF THAT ADD BACK IS 5 GOING ON NOW AND IT WOULD BE IN THOSE CATEGORIES IN PAY BY 6 LOAD AND OVERLOAD FOR FULL-TIMERS. 7 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND I MIGHT ADD HERE 8 ALSO LOOKING VERY CRITICALLY AT HOW TO GENERATE THOSE FTES 9 WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF REVENUE EXPENDITURES. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SO WE ARE LOOKING 12 VERY MUCH AT PRODUCTIVITY WITH THOSE TWO. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OF COURSE. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO 16 UNDERSTAND -- 17 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WHICH IS ON LINE 20, WHICH IS 19 IT WHAT YOU POINTED TWO AND I THINK LINE 23, THE OVERLOAD, 20 AM I RIGHT TO ASSUME THAT THAT'S WHERE I AM LOOKING AT -- 21 OBVIOUSLY, THE SUBS -- IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THE SUBS 22 WOULD BE ADDED TO THE -- WOULD GO TOWARDS THE INCREASE IN 23 ENROLLMENT. BUT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS YOU GET IT 24 FROM -- 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. MAY 24, 2012 101 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- YOU WOULD BE TAKING IT FROM THE 2 SUBS -- SUB LINE ITEM AND GIVE -- ESSENTIALLY REALLOCATING 3 IT TO THIS INCREASED SCHEDULE THROUGH THEIR OVERLOAD 4 SCHEDULE. 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IN THE NEXT ITERATION WHERE WE 7 START TO TAKE THINGS OUT OF THE BUDGET, WE WOULD ACTUALLY 8 TAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF THE SUBS TO REFLECT THE CURRENT 9 YEAR ACTIVITY -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- WHEREVER THAT NUMBER SETTLES 12 OUT INSTEAD OF BUILDING ANY INCREASE FOR NEXT YEAR. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE WOULD REVISIT SEVERAL 15 ACCOUNTS THAT WAY WITH AN EYE TOWARD WHAT THE CHANCELLOR 16 WAS DESCRIBING MAKING MONEY AVAILABLE FOR HIGH 17 PRODUCTIVITY CLASSES THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GET THE CAP. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY 19 IS COMING FROM -- 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: -- HOW IT'S GOING TO GET FUNDED. 22 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BASICALLY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT THROUGH THE OVERLOAD THEN YOU 24 ACTUALLY GET IN TERMS OF THE MECHANISM, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE 25 SOME SORT OF DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHERE THOSE CLASSES, MAY 24, 2012 102 1 WHAT TYPE OF CLASSES THEY ARE, AND THEY ARE HIGH 2 PRODUCTIVE CLASSES. 3 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES, THAT'S THE STRATEGY. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND WE ARE WORKING 7 WITH THE DEPARTMENT CHAIRS ON THAT AND THAT'S THE CRITERIA 8 WE GAVE THEM EVEN. AND THEY ARE HELPING US, AS WE SPEAK 9 BEFORE THEY LEAVE FOR THE SUMMER, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 10 BOTH ADDITIONS TO SUMMER AND ADDITIONS TO FALL. AND EVERY 11 CLASS THAT THEY RECOMMEND IS ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKED AT 12 FOR -- TO SEE IF IT MEETS THE METHOD CRITERIA. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THEY ARE TELLING US 16 WHICH ONES, BUT WE ARE SAYING IT HAS TO MEET THE CRITERIA. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I GOT YOU. 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ANSWERED? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: YEP. THANKS. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE JUMPED AHEAD A LITTLE. I 21 WANT TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER SHEET FOR A SECOND, THE ONE 22 WITH THE ORANGE CORNER AND TALK ABOUT VERY BRIEFLY THE 23 CURRENT YEAR, WHICH AS YOU KNOW WE'VE STRUGGLED THROUGH 24 ALL YEAR LONG AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT, AND 25 THEN FOCUS ON NEXT YEAR'S INCOME AND BOTTOM LINE. MAY 24, 2012 103 1 SO ON THAT CHART, COLUMN X IS THE CURRENT YEAR. 2 ONE THING I WILL CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION ON LINE 22. WE'VE 3 DESCRIBED AS VERY SPECIFICALLY, PROPERTY TAX ADJUSTMENT 4 FOR SAN MATEO BASIC AID. THE SAN MATEO COMMUNITY COLLEGE 5 DISTRICT HAS SO MUCH PROPERTY TAX THAT IT'S BECOME A BASIC 6 AID DISTRICT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. 7 THAT FREES UP STATE GENERAL FUND MONEY TO BE 8 REDISTRIBUTED TO THE OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS 9 LIKE US. AND SO OUR SHARE OF THAT, WHICH IS ABOUT 10 $50 MILLION, WILL BE $1.4 MILLION. AND THAT'S BEEN 11 CONFIRMED BY THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE SO THAT 12 DIRECTLY REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE GOT TAKEN AWAY IN 13 FEBRUARY AND JANUARY. WE ARE STILL DOWN. WE ARE AT 14 150.285 MILLION ON LINE 23, AS OPPOSED TO THE LINE 19, 15 154.1 THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET THIS YEAR. BUT IT'S 16 NOT AS BAD AS IT WAS WHEN IT WAS 148.8 ON LINE 21. 17 THERE ARE NO OTHER VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN 18 REVENUE TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION, BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT 19 THREE ITEMS QUICKLY. AND THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE, TWO OF 20 THEM ARE IN THE MIDDLE SECTION. 21 ONE IS ON LINE 41, OTHER REVENUE FUNDRAISING, 22 750,000 IS WHAT WE BUILT INTO THE BUDGET. I ABSOLUTELY DO 23 NOT BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO GET $750,000, UNLESS SOME 24 LARGE DONOR STEPS UP TO THE PLATE NEXT MONTH AND SO THAT 25 NUMBER WILL LIKELY COME DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY WHICH WILL MAY 24, 2012 104 1 EFFECT OUR BOTTOM LINE. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HOW MUCH DID WE COLLECT? 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I THINK WE ARE LESS THAN 4 $300,000 RIGHT NOW. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THIS IS FROM THE SF 6 FOUNDATION, RIGHT? 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: FROM THE WHAT? 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IS THIS MONEY FROM THE SF 9 FOUNDATION OR JUST -- 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: NO, THESE ARE JUST DONATIONS TO 11 SAVE A CLASS. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SECONDLY, ON LINE 43, THE 14 UNCLAIMED CREDIT BALANCES, 700,000. YOU PROBABLY KNOW 15 WE'VE PUT OUT SOME LARGE ADS IN THE NEWSPAPER RECENTLY 16 COVERING A LONG-TIME PERIOD FOR UNCLAIMED CREDIT BALANCES 17 BY STUDENTS. THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO COME 18 FORWARD. THIS IS AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WILL REMAIN 19 UNCLAIMED AT THE END OF ALL THAT. AND WE'LL SEE IF IT'S 20 RIGHT. THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PUBLIC 21 NOTICES WAS A LOT MORE THAN $700,000. SO WE ARE ASSUMING 22 SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT WILL BE PAID BACK -- CLAIMED AND 23 PAID BACK. 24 I WILL POINT OUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT OUR 25 STUDENTS OWE US A LOT MORE MONEY THAN THAT. AND WE WILL MAY 24, 2012 105 1 TALK ABOUT THIS AT A FUTURE MEETING. 2 BUT AS THE STATE KEEPS INCREASING STUDENT FEES, 3 THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE STATE ASSUMES CITY COLLEGE IS 4 COLLECTING FROM STUDENTS KEEPS GOING UP. AND WE HAVE A 5 VERY GENEROUS POLICY WITH OUR STUDENTS TO ENCOURAGE THEM 6 TO STAY IN SCHOOL. BASICALLY YOU CAN REGISTER FOR 7 CLASSES, GET STARTED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY. WE ARE NOT 8 THROWING YOU OUT OF CLASS. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE 9 REQUIRED TO PAY UNTIL YOU ASK FOR SOMETHING ELSE FROM US, 10 TO SIGN UP FOR THE NEXT SEMESTER'S CLASSES, TO ASK FOR A 11 TRANSCRIPT OR SOME OTHER SERVICES OR FEE FROM THE COLLEGE. 12 AND WE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO MODIFY THAT POLICY. 13 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: CAN YOU ESTIMATE HOW 14 MUCH WE ARE WRITING OFF EVERY YEAR? 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE ARE WRITING HISTORICALLY 16 FOUR TO $500,000 A YEAR OFF. IT COMES RIGHT OFF THE 17 BOTTOM LINE AS AN EXPENSE. AND THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO 18 GROW IS THE MESSAGE I AM GIVING TO THE BOARD. 19 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SO AGAIN, WE COULD TALK ABOUT 21 THAT WHEN IT'S AGENDIZED AS A SPECIFIC ITEM, BUT I JUST 22 WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT'S THERE. IN THE CONTEXT OF 23 UNCLAIMED BALANCES, THERE ARE MUCH LARGER AMOUNTS OWED. 24 IN TERMS OF THE THIRD ITEM, LINE 53, ADDITIONAL 25 CORPUS RELEASE. THAT REPRESENTS MONEY THAT WAS MAY 24, 2012 106 1 TRANSFERRED TO THE COLLEGE BY THE FOUNDATION. WE ACTUALLY 2 GOT MORE THAN WE ESTIMATED. 3 HOWEVER IN THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY, WE ARE 4 HOPING TO GET 1.1 MILLION FREED UP. SO FAR WE KNOW WE CAN 5 COUNT ON 660,000. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEYS IN 6 THE ESTATE OF ONE LARGE DONOR TO SEE IF WE CAN FREE UP THE 7 BALANCE. AND WE SHOULD KNOW THAT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE 8 OF WEEKS. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THAT'S MONEY THAT'S 10 SITTING IN THE FOUNDATION. 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE ARE -- NO, NO, IT'S SITTING 12 WITH CITY COLLEGE NOW. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE ARE HOLDING THE MONEY. IT 15 WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE COLLEGE. 16 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: HOW MUCH WAS THE 17 ORIGINAL TARGET FIGURE? 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE ORIGINAL TARGET FOR THAT 19 FIGURE WAS 1.1 MILLION. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO GET BACK TO 20 THAT 1.1 MILLION, BUT WE ARE SAYING 660 BECAUSE THAT'S ALL 21 WE CAN COUNT ON RIGHT NOW. 22 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I BELIEVE THE ISSUE 23 IS WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN TAP IT TO BE USING IN THE GENERAL 24 FUND OR WHETHER IT STAYS FOR ANOTHER RESTRICTED USE. 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AND THAT'S A COMBINATION OF MAY 24, 2012 107 1 PART OF A GIFT AND THE CAPITAL GAINS ON ALL OF THE GIFTS, 2 THAT 660. 3 THEN YOU HAVE THE 2 MILLION WE TRANSFERRED FROM 4 THE RESERVE ON LINE 58 IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. 5 AND I AM SURE THE BOARD WILL RECALL THAT AS WE'VE TALKED 6 ABOUT THE BUDGET DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE'VE 7 TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CLOSEOUT 8 THE YEAR WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL DRAW ON THE BUDGET. 9 THAT SAN MATEO MONEY IS HELPING. SO WHEN YOU GO 10 ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM LINE 287 AND, YES, THERE ARE A 11 LOT OF LINES THAT ARE SQUASHED TOGETHER THERE. RIGHT NOW, 12 OUR ESTIMATE IS 1.8 MILLION WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN FROM 13 THE RESERVE. THAT NUMBER WOULD IMPROVE IF THE LAST ITEM I 14 DISCUSSED GOT BACK TO THE 1.1 MILLION IT WOULD BE A 15 SMALLER DRAW. AND MORE DIRECTLY, IT'S IMPROVED BECAUSE OF 16 THE SAN MATEO BASIC AID CHANGE WHICH WAS REVEALED TO US 17 WITH CERTAINTY FAIRLY RECENTLY. 18 THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE CURRENT YEAR. 19 I WANT TO MOVE ONTO THE BUDGET YEAR. 20 WE HAVE DEVELOPED FOUR SCENARIOS HERE. AS 21 SOMEBODY MENTIONED BEFORE. THE GOVERNOR'S TAX PASSES, 22 PARCEL TAX PASSES, THAT'S THE VERY BEST CASES FOR CITY 23 COLLEGE. 24 AND IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE AE. 25 THAT'S A BALANCED BUDGET. THAT'S THE BUDGET I SAID WE MAY 24, 2012 108 1 COULDN'T AFFORD, BUT WE COULD AFFORD IF WE ACTUALLY WON 2 BOTH OF THOSE ELECTIONS AND WERE SUCCESSFUL. 3 AND THEN ACROSS AS YOU GO, IT GETS WORSE WITH 4 EACH COLUMN. THE NEXT ONE IS IF THE GOVERNOR'S MEASURE 5 FAILS, SO WE ARE GOING TO CUT NINE AND A LITTLE BIT LESS 6 THAN THAT WE KNOW NOW. ON LINE 11, YOU SEE THE $9 MILLION 7 CUT FROM THE GOVERNOR. AND THEN WE -- I'M ASSUMING THAT 8 THE MANDATED COST MONEY WILL END UP EVAPORATING IF HIS 9 ELECTION LOSES ON LINE 29. 10 AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN, AND WE ARE SHORT 11 $10 MILLION ON LINE 63. SO THAT'S AGAIN, IF PARCEL TAX 12 PASSES, WE GET 14 MILLION. BUT IF THE GOVERNOR'S TAX 13 FAILS, THEN WE LOSE 10 MILLION. 14 THE NEXT ONE OVER IS THE ONE WE FOCUSED MOST OF 15 OUR ATTENTION ON. THE GOVERNOR'S TAX MEASURE PASSES, BUT 16 THE PARCEL TAX DOES NOT. AND IN THAT SCENARIO, THERE'S NO 17 ADDITIONAL CUT FROM THE STATE. THERE'S NO $14 MILLION 18 INFUSION FROM THE PARCEL TAX. AND SO WHEN YOU GO DOWN TO 19 THE BOTTOM LINE ON THAT ONE, LINE 63, WE WOULD BE SHORT 20 $14 MILLION. 21 AND NOW THAT'S THE BUDGET WE ARE WORKING ON TO 22 CLOSE. AND SO THERE'S AN IMPORTANT FOOTNOTE FOR THE BOARD 23 AND THE PUBLIC THERE. MIGHT AS WELL READ IT OUT LOUD. 24 "THE ESTIMATED DEFICIT OF THE GOVERNOR'S TAX 25 PROPOSAL IS ENACTED. IT'S 14.09 MILLION. THE MAY 24, 2012 109 1 ADMINISTRATION HAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED 7.4 MILLION THAT 2 WILL BE GENERATED VIA SAVINGS FROM ATTRITION, REDUCTIONS, 3 AND NON INSTRUCTIONAL ASSIGNMENTS, AND NON PERSONNEL COSTS 4 IN REDUCTIONS IN THE NUMBER OF CLASS SECTIONS OFFERED. AN 5 ADDITIONAL $6.7 MILLION IN LABOR COST REDUCTIONS ARE 6 SUBJECT TO NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND EFFECTED 7 EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS." 8 AND, OF COURSE, THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOING ON 9 RIGHT NOW, SO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYMORE ABOUT THAT. 10 BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SHOW YOU THAT THE ENTIRE 11 $14 MILLION IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE 12 HAPPENING AT THE BARGAINING TABLE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE 13 STRATEGIES THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT WOULD SOLVE 14 MORE THAN HALF OF THE PROBLEM. 15 AS YOU GO TO THE NEXT COLUMN OVER, WHICH WAS THE 16 WORST CASE UNTIL THE LEAGUE ADDED THAT REDEVELOPMENT 17 ESTIMATE, COLUMN AI. THAT'S THE ONE THAT SAYS, GOVERNOR'S 18 BALLOT FAILS, PARCEL TAX FAILS. AND SO WE GET CUT ANOTHER 19 9 MILLION ON LINE 11. AGAIN, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER 20 WHAT WILL HAPPEN BASED ON THE LATEST INFORMATION. 21 WE ARE ASSUMING, I SHOULD HAVE POINTED THIS OUT 22 EARLIER ON LINE 20, THAT THE STATE IS NOT ACTUALLY GOING 23 TO PAY US EVERYTHING THEY OWE US UNDER ANY SCENARIO. AND 24 WE ASSUME A BIGGER DEFICIT FACTOR WHEN THINGS ARE GOING 25 SOUTH. A FULL 1 PERCENT OFF OF WHAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO. MAY 24, 2012 110 1 THAT'S WHY LINE 19 GOES DOWN BY THAT FACTOR TO WHAT'S ON 2 LINE 21 IN COLUMN AI. 3 NO OTHER REVENUE CHANGES. WE'VE REDUCED -- BY 4 THE WAY, OUR FUNDRAISING ESTIMATE FOR NEXT YEAR DOWN TO 5 400,000 WHICH IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE SEEM TO BE 6 CAPABLE OF DOING. AND IN FACT WHEN WE GET OUR FINAL 7 NUMBERS, WE MIGHT REDUCE THAT A LITTLE AGAIN. 8 AND THEN AS YOU GO FURTHER DOWN, YOU SEE THAT 9 THE BOTTOM LINE GAP ON THAT ONE ON LINE 286 IS ALMOST 10 $25 MILLION, 24.7. REMEMBER THAT MEANS NO PARCEL TAX AND 11 AN ADDITIONAL CUT FROM THE STATE. IT DOES NOT BUILD IN A 12 THIRD CUT FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT SCHEME THAT THE GOVERNOR 13 HAS PUT FORWARD. JUST BY WAY OF THE NUMBERS, THAT WOULD 14 ADD ANOTHER $10 MILLION IN THE SUPER WORST CASE, BUT IT 15 COULD ALSO ADD JUST A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND IF THE 16 ESTIMATES IS JUST OFF. 17 AND WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE TIME. I THINK THE 18 CHANCELLOR HAS ALREADY SPOKEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. 19 OUR FOCUS IS TO DEVELOP A BALANCED BUDGET FOR THE BOARD TO 20 VOTE ON IN JUNE AS YOUR TENTATIVE BUDGET IS REQUIRED BY 21 LAW. AND WHEN YOU PASS YOUR FINAL BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER, 22 YOU WILL HAVE THE ADDITIONAL MEASURES NEEDED TO CLOSE OUT 23 THE ADDITIONAL CUT WE WOULD GET IF THE GOVERNOR'S TAX 24 PACKAGE FAILS. I WILL PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE A QUESTION. SO MAY 24, 2012 111 1 ASSUMING THE IT'S NOVEMBER AND WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE 2 FOURTH COLUMN $24 MILLION, IT'S AN EXTRA $10 MILLION FROM 3 WHAT WE WERE -- 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- PLANNING FOR. DOES ALL OF 6 THAT COME OUT OF THE SPRING? DOES $10 MILLION COME OUT OF 7 THE SPRING SEMESTER? 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I WOULD SAY, NO. 9 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IT CAN'T. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: UNLESS THE 50 PERCENT LAW IS 11 SUSPENDED, THAT WOULD GOVERN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT 12 WOULD COME OUT OF INSTRUCTION. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THEN SOME OF IT COMES OUT 14 OF FALL THAT HAS ALREADY STARTED THEN OR -- 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: NO, IT DOESN'T COME 16 OUT OF FALL. IT COMES OUT OF YOUR BUDGET. IT MEANS YOU 17 ARE BACK AT THE TABLE, LIKE YOU ARE SCRAMBLING NOW TO SAY, 18 WHERE ELSE DO YOU SAVE THAT MONEY? HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE 19 LEFT IN RESERVES, WHICH IS NOW NOT REALLY AN OPTION 20 BECAUSE YOU ARE ALREADY WAY, WAY BELOW. WE ARE ALREADY 21 WAY, WAY BELOW WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE. SO IT WOULD 22 BE -- IT WOULD BE THOSE KIND OF SYSTEMIC CHANGES THAT WE 23 NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT ON JULY 1. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 25 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: BECAUSE REDUCING THE MAY 24, 2012 112 1 SECTIONS, EVEN IT WAS THE 2000 AND WE FIGURE THAT OUT, WE 2 CAN TELL YOU THAT BY NEXT WEEK. THAT'S GOT TO BE ANYWHERE 3 CLOSE TO WHAT THAT WOULD BE. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IN TERMS OF WHAT IT 6 WOULD BE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SO SINCE THE RESERVE WAS 9 MENTIONED, I WILL SUMMARIZE FOR YOU THAT WE SHOULD HAVE 10 PROVIDED THOSE NUMBERS. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I WAS GOING TO ASK 12 YOU ABOUT THAT. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT WAS MY OVERSIGHT. WE 14 STARTED ON -- WE ENDED LAST YEAR JUNE 30TH, 2011 WITH A 15 CLOSEOUT IN THE BUDGET OF ABOUT $3 MILLION AND A $6.6 16 MILLION RESERVE, NEARLY $10 MILLION. 17 WHEN JUNE 30TH ROLLS AROUND THIS YEAR, THERE 18 WILL BE NO CLOSEOUT. AND THE RESERVE UNDER THIS SCENARIO 19 WILL BE $2.8 MILLION. THAT'S A DRAMATIC DROP IN OUR 20 AVAILABLE CASH TO DEAL WITH NECESSITIES, EMERGENCIES, ET 21 CETERA. 22 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND JUST AS A POINT 23 OF REFERENCE, THE STANDARD IS 5 PERCENT OF YOUR BUDGET 24 WHICH FOR US IS CLOSE TO 10 MILLION. SO THAT'S HOW FAR 25 OFF YOU ARE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE TRIGGERS THAT I HAVE MAY 24, 2012 113 1 BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THAT GIVES ME CONCERN ABOUT 2 OTHER FOLKS SAYING THAT EVEN WITH A BALANCED BUDGET WITH 3 2.8 MILLION, THEY WOULD STILL BE WATCHING US VERY, VERY 4 CLOSELY. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I AGREE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE WE PLANNING TO PUT 7 ANYTHING ABOUT IN THE RESERVE THAT'S COMING UP? 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WELL, I FULLY EXPECT THAT WHEN 9 THE ACCREDITATION REPORT COMES OUT, THEY ARE GOING TO ASK 10 FOR A PLAN ON HOW WE WILL RESTORE THE RESERVE. AND I 11 THINK AT LEAST A TOKEN AMOUNT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE 12 SHOULD TRY TO ACCOMPLISH EVEN IN AN AWFUL YEAR LIKE THE 13 ONE WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE. 14 I WOULD POINT OUT ALSO BECAUSE THIS QUESTION HAS 15 COME UP BEFORE. WE ARE PROPOSING CONTINUING TO TRY TO 16 MAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS ON OUR OPEB LIABILITY. WE 17 PUT $500,000 TOWARD THAT IN THE BOARD ADOPTED BUDGET THIS 18 YEAR. IN ADDITION TO THE PAY GO, WE WOULD BE REPLICATING 19 THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR. THAT'S OF COURSE WELL BELOW WHAT 20 THE ACTUARIES TELL US WE SHOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT 21 PROBLEM, BUT TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS ZERO. SO WE ARE MAKING 22 SOME PROGRESS. AND WHEN THINGS IMPROVE, WE ARE GOING TO 23 HAVE TO MAKE MORE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: WHERE IS THAT, PETER? 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S ON THE OTHER SHEET. IF MAY 24, 2012 114 1 YOU LOOK AT LINE 87, IT SAYS, OPEB TRANSFER, OPEB TRUST 2 FUND. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, TRANSFER OUT, OKAY. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. SO THE FIRST COLUMN IS 5 THE AMOUNT WE DID THIS YEAR. AND THE LAST COLUMN IS THE 6 AMOUNT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR NEXT YEAR. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THAT WE COMPLY WITH OUR POLICY 8 ON THE BUDGET, I IMAGINE THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING 9 FOR US TO DELIBERATE ON EXCEPT THE -- WHAT'S BEEN 10 IDENTIFIED AND NOTE ONE. WE WOULD HAVE TWO READINGS OF A 11 BUDGET. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S OUR POLICY. I GUESS THIS 14 IS THE FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET. 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE 16 CONSIDERED YOUR FIRST READING. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND I EXPECT THAT WE WOULD 18 SEND THIS TO COMMITTEE FOR US TO LOOK AT AND TALK IN MORE 19 DEPTH. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SURE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN SEND BACK, REFER OUT TO 22 THE FULL BOARD. WE DO IT WITH OUR POLICY COMMITTEE AND 23 OTHER COMMITTEES, SO I EXPECT NOTHING DIFFERENT FOR THIS 24 SUBJECT MATTER EITHER. 25 AND THAT BUDGET ALSO SHOULD HAVE THOSE MAY 24, 2012 115 1 CATEGORIES -- 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: -- BY CAMPUS. IF YOU COULD DO 4 THAT -- IF THAT'S DOABLE. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I SPOKE TO VICE CHANCELLOR BELL 6 BEFORE THE MEETING. AND SO REMEMBER WE PROMISED TO SHOW 7 YOU RESOURCES AND WE WILL HAVE THAT FOR YOU. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY 9 IMPORTANT TO -- I KNOW ME, BUT ALSO MANY OF OUR OTHER -- 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: -- MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL TO KNOW 12 HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE CUTTING OUT OF CERTAIN CAMPUSES OR 13 NOT. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY, WHAT YOU ARE GOING -- I 15 DON'T WANT TO DISAPPOINT YOU. REMEMBER WHAT WE TALKED 16 ABOUT BEFORE WAS CHANGING FROM DOLLARS TO RESOURCES. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: TO RESOURCES, RIGHT, CORRECT. 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SO YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBER OF 19 CLASSES, THE FTE OF COUNSELORS AND LIBRARIANS. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE FTE OF CUSTODIANS, THE 22 UTILITIES THAT GO INTO THE CAMPUS, THAT'S THE KIND OF 23 INFORMATION WE CAN GIVE YOU. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. BUT WE CAN LIKE INFER THE 25 COST OF THOSE RESOURCES AT SOME POINT ANYWAY, RIGHT? I MAY 24, 2012 116 1 MEAN THERE'S NOT LIKE -- 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I THINK YOU CAN USE BENCHMARK 3 NUMBERS TO -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. BUT I THINK THE RESOURCING 5 IS REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING -- 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: -- I THINK TO PEOPLE SO THAT'S 8 GOOD. 9 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESOLUTION WILL LOOK LIKE 10 IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET YOU WANT US TO ADOPT IN JUNE. I 11 HOPE WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE AT A COMMITTEE MEETING BEFORE 12 JUNE FOR US TO LOOK AT. I KNOW YOU WANT US TO -- IT 13 SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE US ADOPT A BUDGET WITH 14 THE CATEGORY AG, THE $14 MILLION DEFICIT. 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES. 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S THE ONE WE WILL BE 17 REPRESENTING. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO AND THAT THERE IS A PLAN 19 FOR -- THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A PLAN RIGHT AWAY TO GET 20 INTO THE POTENTIAL $10 MILLION MORE DEFICIT. 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I GAVE PEOPLE UNTIL 22 JULY 1ST. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OUR MEETING IS 25 JUNE 27TH OR 28TH. MAY 24, 2012 117 1 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, FOUR OR FOUR DAYS. 2 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 4 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YOU WILL HAVE THE 5 WEEKEND. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: GOOD. OKAY. 7 SO I WILL TALK WITH THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE -- 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TO FIGURE OUT WHEN TO TABLE OR 10 SCHEDULE THIS COMMITTEE MEETING AND LOOK AT THIS, THE 11 RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER YOU'LL HAVE FOR THE WORKING 12 COMMITTEE IN PROPER AND DISCUSS THERE. 13 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: RIGHT. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM JUST GOING TO SAY IS I 17 GUESS I DISAGREE. I DON'T SEE THIS AS A FIRST READING 18 BECAUSE ALL THIS IS IS A LISTING OF WHAT OUR CURRENT 19 BUDGET IS FOR THIS YEAR CARRIED ACROSS TO ALL, YOU KNOW, 20 TO NEXT YEAR. AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM IS THE SIZE OF THE 21 HOLE. THAT'S NOT A BUDGET. THAT'S NOT A FIRST READING OF 22 A BUDGET. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I -- 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SO WHAT KIND OF 25 DETAIL -- MAY 24, 2012 118 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I DON'T CONSIDER THIS A 2 FIRST READING. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT I SUGGEST IS THAT FOR THAT 4 COMMITTEE MEETING, HOPEFULLY, MAYBE A WEEK OR SO BEFORE -- 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WHAT WE CAN SHOW YOU WHERE 6 THE -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THE FULL MEETING YOU WILL HAVE 8 WHAT TRUSTEE RIZZO -- 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- REQUESTED. 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE CAN CODE INTO THE ACCOUNTS 12 THE $7.4 MILLION WE REFER TO AS (INAUDIBLE). YOU WILL SEE 13 THAT CLEARLY -- 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- AS OPPOSED TO JUST A 16 SUMMARIZED NUMBER. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BUT ITEMS THAT ARE STILL UNDER 19 NEGOTIATIONS OBVIOUSLY -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: THERE WILL JUST BE NOTATIONS, 21 RIGHT? YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT THAT'S 22 WHAT'S -- 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: -- MISSING. 25 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WELL, I THINK I NEED MAY 24, 2012 119 1 SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE AT LEAST A SKELETON 2 HERE THAT TELLS YOU THIS IS WHERE WE INTEND TO SPEND OUR 3 MONEY NEXT YEAR. SO IF YOU ARE SAYING YOU WANT MORE 4 DETAIL THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. 5 THIS IS A TYPICAL FORMAT THAT A BOARD WOULD IN 6 FACT APPROVE, SO -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, EXCEPT IT'S UNBALANCED. 8 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WELL, YES, EXCEPT 9 FOR THE BALANCE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE'S $24 MILLION. THERE'S 11 $14 MILLION. 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES. WELL, YEAH, 13 EXCEPT FOR THIS PART, YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S A BIG PART. IT'S A 15 PRETTY BIG EXCEPTION. 16 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I KNOW. I KNOW. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART. 18 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND THAT'S WHY WE 19 PUT IT ON THERE TODAY, SO YOU CAN SAY, NO, WE STILL HAVE 20 THIS HOLE TO FILL. 21 AND I GUESS IF YOU WANT TWO MORE READINGS, I 22 DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO DO THOSE, AND WE NEED SOME 23 CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THE LAST ONE YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE 24 ACTION ON IS JUNE 28TH. DO YOU WANT TO MEET TWO WEEKS 25 BEFORE THAT FOR ANOTHER READING? DO YOU WANT OUR MEETING MAY 24, 2012 120 1 NEXT WEEK TO BE WHAT YOUR FIRST READING -- I MEAN IF SO, 2 HOW DIFFERENT DOES IT HAVE TO LOOK? 3 I MEAN YOU COULD HAVE A FIRST READING WITHOUT 4 THAT HOLE FILLED IN OR WE CAN SPELL OUT. I MEAN THAT'S A 5 DIFFICULT ONE BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF 6 NEGOTIATIONS. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I KNOW. I KNOW. SO YOU ARE 8 GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ABOUT WHEN YOU 9 WANT TO MEET AND HOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT IF THAT'S THE 10 PART THAT WAS TROUBLING IS THE HOLE, WHICH IS TROUBLING 11 ALL OF US OBVIOUSLY, BUT -- 12 SO CAN WE ADD THAT TO OUR MEETING NEXT WEEK AND 13 THAT BE YOUR FIRST -- WE IF WE ARE MEETING ON THURSDAY, 14 COULD YOUR BUDGET COMMITTEE MEET EARLIER IN THE WEEK, LIKE 15 TUESDAY? 16 TRUSTEE NGO: WE COULD. BUT I DON'T THINK YOU 17 HAVE -- 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE MORE 19 TIME. 20 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY, SO THEN WE 21 CAN'T DO IT THURSDAY, SO THAT'S ANOTHER MEETING. SO WE 22 ARE GOING TO GO FOUR FOR JUNE AS WELL, OKAY, GOT IT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, CAN I ASK ON LINE 48 OR 24 47, TOTAL CATEGORICALS. THAT LOOKS -- IT'S ALL BLANK. 25 WHY? MAY 24, 2012 121 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH, IT'S A SEPARATE SCHEDULE. 2 IT'S NOT PART OF THIS SCHEDULE THAT WE GAVE YOU HERE. OUR 3 ASSUMPTION THOUGH, YOU SHOULD KNOW FOR CATEGORICALS, IS 4 THAT THERE IS, OF COURSE, NO EXTRA MONEY COMING AND THAT 5 THE ALLOCATIONS WE GOT THIS YEAR WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD 6 GET NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL WAS NOT TO 7 CUT CATEGORICALS IF HIS PLAN FAILS, BUT TO CUT 8 APPORTIONMENT. BUT WE CAN SHOW YOU A SEPARATE SCHEDULE 9 JUST FOR THAT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND, OF COURSE, THE 12 ISSUE WITH CATEGORICALS, WHICH MIGHT BE PART OF WHAT'S 13 COMING UP HERE TOO, IS THAT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS 14 SINCE CATEGORICALS WERE FIRST CUT, MANY OF THE CATEGORICAL 15 COSTS, ACTIVITIES, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED INTO THE 16 UNRESTRICTED FUND, SO THEY ARE UP HERE IN OTHER PLACES. 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S TRUE. 18 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SO FOR NOW, I MEAN 19 I'VE ASKED PEOPLE TO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND TRY TO TRACK 20 THEM AND WHERE THEY WERE AND ALL THAT AND WHERE THEY WENT. 21 SO AS WE GET INTO OUR JULY 1 EFFORT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO 22 COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY THAT. BUT ESSENTIALLY, THEY ARE 23 GOING TO BE ON THE TABLE, ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT 24 YOU ARE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE REDUCTIONS BECAUSE 25 AT THIS POINT YOU'VE COVERED THEM FOR THREE YEARS. MAY 24, 2012 122 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. AND IT'S $5 MILLION A 2 YEAR. 3 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND IT'S ABOUT 4 5 MILLION A YEAR THAT YOU PUT IN ABOVE WHAT -- 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: -- FOR THREE YEARS. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THIS YEAR -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- THE FIGURE IS RIGHT NOW 10 ABOUT 5.2. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: A LITTLE LESS. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT 14 THAT. 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YEAH. 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE THE STATE IS NO LONGER 18 PAYING FOR IT. 19 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: NO, EXACTLY, 20 EXACTLY. THE REALITY IS A BIG PIECE OF THAT IS IN FACULTY 21 SALARIES AND WITHIN THE STUDENT SERVICES AREA. AND YOU 22 HAVE TO REVISIT FOR THE FUTURE. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 24 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YOU CAN'T REVISIT IT 25 NOW. MAY 24, 2012 123 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: REMEMBER -- 2 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IT'S TOO LATE. 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- TO CITY COLLEGE, A BIG PART 4 OF THE 5.2 ARE BASIC SKILLS CLASSES. 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND INSTRUCTIONS. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 7 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IT'S INSTRUCTION AND 8 COUNSELORS. 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 10 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: NO EASY ANSWERS. 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 13 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I WOULD LIKE TO 14 PUBLICLY SAY THAT I HAVE REALLY APPRECIATED THE WORK THAT 15 PETER HAS DONE FOR US, AND I KNOW JOHN HAS HELPED HIM AS 16 WELL, BUT HIS MEETING SCHEDULE HAS BEEN AS BAD AS MINE. 17 THE ONLY GOOD THING IS AT THE END OF OUR LONG DAYS, HE 18 GOES SWIMMING AND I GO BACK AND START READING MORE 19 DOCUMENTS TO CATCH UP. BUT I AM ASKING STAFF TO DO AN 20 AWFUL LOT OF NEW REPORTS, NEW DETAILED ORIENTED REPORTS IN 21 AN EFFORT TO GET YOU THE KINDS OF ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS 22 I CAN TELL THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING AND SEEKING. 23 SO HOW MUCH OF THAT WE WILL HAVE FOR YOU BY JUNE 24 28TH, I DON'T KNOW. SOME I HAVE ALREADY. BUT SOME OF 25 THEM ARE -- I PLAN TO BRING BACK TO YOU SOME OF THOSE MAY 24, 2012 124 1 FINDINGS AND SAY, HERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS YOU HAVEN'T 2 DONE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AND AT LEAST GOING 3 FORWARD. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 5 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND I WILL ACTUALLY 6 COME TO YOU NEXT WEEK WITH A PROPOSAL TO GET SOME OUTSIDE 7 ASSISTANCE WITH DOING A BETTER ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE ARE, 8 HOW WE GOT HERE, AND WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 10 WE HAVE -- WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. I 11 HAVE ONE CARD. 12 ANGELA THOMAS. 13 MS. THOMAS: HELLO, EVERYBODY. I WILL BE QUICK. 14 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE DISTRICT TO 15 GET AS MUCH FISCAL ANALYSIS THAT WE CAN GET FROM STATE 16 CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE, ANYBODY BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD ERRORS. 17 WE HAVE HAD SHORTFALLS THAT HAVE BROUGHT US TO A VERY UGLY 18 PLACE. 19 AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT THAT CONCERNS ME IS 20 THAT AS YOU ALL KNOW, I AM THE REP FOR SEIU. MY MEMBERS 21 HAVE TAKEN CONCESSIONS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS RUNNING, 22 AND THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT IS GOING TO CHANGE. AND 23 UNFORTUNATELY THOUGH WHAT HAS CHANGED, IS THAT I DON'T 24 KNOW HOW MUCH MORE THE CONSTITUENCY GROUPS CAN TAKE IN 25 SUBSIDIZING THE ERRORS AND THE SHORTFALLS IN THIS BUDGET, MAY 24, 2012 125 1 THE BUDGETS. AND IT IS MAKING SAN FRANCISCO CITY COLLEGE 2 A LESS DESIRABLE PLACE TO WORK BASED ON THE FACT THAT A 3 1426 HERE MAKES LESS THAN 1426 IN THE CITY. 4 AND IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE MOST OF MY MEMBERS 5 REALLY LIKE WORKING HERE. AND THEY REALLY -- THE 6 STUDENTS, THE STUDENTS, THE STUDENTS, AND I KNOW HOW IT 7 IS. 8 I LEFT A FIELD THAT I LOVED BECAUSE I COULDN'T 9 AFFORD TO STAY THERE ANY LONGER. AND IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS 10 AGO THAT I DID THAT. AND I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES IF I 11 COULD TAKE MY SEIU CHECK AND GO BACK TO TAKING CARE OF THE 12 MIDGET MAFIA, I WOULD BE THERE ON MONDAY. 13 YOU KNOW, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AND YOU GUYS CAN 14 LOOK AT THE BUDGET THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET NOW, THEY 15 ARE FIZZING TO TAKE CHILD CARE TO 71 PERCENT. AND I LOOK 16 AT IT. AND I LOOK AT HOW IN HIS STATEMENT HE SAYS, THIS 17 IS GOING TO RUN PEOPLE OUT OF THE INDUSTRY. AND I'M LIKE, 18 YEAH, THAT WAS ME. BUT EVEN IF YOU GET RUN OUT OF THE 19 INDUSTRY, I AM LEARNING THAT IT DOESN'T STOP YOU FROM -- 20 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 21 MS. THOMAS: -- LOVING IT. AND THAT'S GOING TO 22 BE MY MEMBERS. THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE, BUT THEY ARE 23 STILL GOING TO LOVE YOU GUYS. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 YOU KNOW I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, AND I KNOW MAY 24, 2012 126 1 IT'S OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL, ABOUT GETTING SOME ASSISTANCE, 2 GETTING AN ENTITY OF THE STATE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR 3 FINANCES TO SEE IF THEY COULD MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS AS 4 TO WHERE WE MIGHT TRIM COSTS. SO I ACTUALLY -- I AM IN 5 FAVOR OF THAT. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: OKAY, I WILL BRING A 7 PROPOSAL BACK TO YOU NEXT WEEK. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AT NEXT 9 WEEK'S SPECIAL MEETING. 10 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AT THE NEXT SPECIAL 11 MEETING. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WOULD BE FABULOUS. 13 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: ALL RIGHT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND WITHIN -- BECAUSE I KNOW 17 THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF OUR, YOU KNOW, BUDGET 18 NUMBERS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NOT AGREED WITH, YOU 19 KNOW, THE NUMBERS. SO HOPEFULLY WITH THE BUDGET ANALYST, 20 YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET NUMBERS THAT WE CAN ALL ACTUALLY 21 AGREE UPON BECAUSE I KNOW EVEN TIMES WHEN WE GET A BUDGET 22 AND EVEN IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, WE ARE LIKE WAIT A 23 MINUTE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN WE SAW 24 BEFORE. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH SOME OF THESE 25 NUMBERS. THAT'S KIND OF BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE, YOU MAY 24, 2012 127 1 KNOW, JUST FROM THE BOARD LEVEL THAT I'VE HEARD FOR QUITE 2 SOME TIME. SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF GET A 3 HANDLE ON THE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND WE CAN GET NUMBERS THAT 4 WE ALL AGREE UPON BECAUSE I KNOW BOTH OF OUR BARGAINING 5 UNITS, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO REALLY NEGOTIATE, WE NEED 6 NUMBERS THAT WE CAN ALL TRUST AND THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT 7 ARE REAL. SO WE CAN ALL MOVE FORWARD. 8 YOU KNOW, WITH THAT ALSO SAID, I DEFINITELY 9 WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THIS BUDGET DEFICIT, YOU KNOW, I ALSO 10 YOU KNOW -- YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, I ALSO WANT 11 TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A COLLEGE, YOU 12 KNOW, THAT OUR COMMUNITIES CAN, YOU KNOW, BE PROUD OF AND 13 THAT WE CAN ALSO MAINTAIN OPEN ACCESS, YOU KNOW, FOR FOLKS 14 WHO REALLY DO NEED CITY COLLEGE. 15 YOU KNOW, SO I HOPE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CONTINUE 16 TO HAVE OUR SAN FRANCISCO VALUES BAKED INTO THIS BUDGET 17 SO, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I AM JUST, YOU 18 KNOW, CAUTIONING, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES TO, YOU KNOW, 19 CONTINUE TO REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A 20 TOUGH BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT 21 WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE 22 THAT THIS IS A COLLEGE THAT COLLEGE THAT REALLY CAN AND 23 HAS THE CAPACITY TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. 24 THANK YOU. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WILLIAM WALKER. MAY 24, 2012 128 1 MR. WALKER: HI, THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE UPDATE 2 ON THE FINANCES. I WAS ALSO AT THE SAME PRESENTATION FOR 3 STUDENTS, AND FACULTY, STAFF, ADMINISTRATORS AT THE OCEAN 4 CAMPUS ON TUESDAY. 5 AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IT'S THE SECOND 6 TIME I HEARD IT. SOMETHING THAT KEEPS RESONATING WITH ME 7 IS THE MENTION OF HOW WE DON'T COLLECT STUDENT FEES IN A 8 TIMELY MANNER. OTHER THAN LOS ANGELES, A COMMUNITY 9 COLLEGE SYSTEM, I'VE LIVED IN BOTH SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN 10 CALIFORNIA. AND LA AND SAN FRANCISCO ARE THE ONLY TWO 11 SCHOOLS WHERE YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH NOT PAYING YOUR FEES 12 AND NOT BEING DROPPED FROM YOUR COURSES. 13 THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO IT SO THAT YOU 14 DON'T SEEM LIKE BIG BROTHER. YOU COULD HAVE A QUARTERLY 15 PAYMENT PLAN. YOU CAN ENSURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT 16 THEY NEED TO FILE THEIR (INAUDIBLE) EVEN IF THEY DON'T 17 THINK THAT THEY QUALIFY. AND THERE'S WAYS TO MARKET THAT. 18 IT TEACHES STUDENTS TO NOT BE RESPONSIBLE IN THE FUTURE. 19 THERE ARE MANY STUDENTS THAT COME BACK TO CITY 20 COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO FOUR-YEAR 21 UNIVERSITIES, AND THEY DIDN'T PAY THAT $100 STATEMENT OF 22 INTENT TO REGISTER, AND THEY DIDN'T PAY THAT FIRST SET OF 23 FEES THAT WERE DUE PRIOR TO ENROLLMENT, AND THEY ARE BACK 24 IN THE COLLEGE. SO IT'S REALLY A WAY TO TEACH PERSONAL 25 RESPONSIBILITY. AND THERE ARE SO MANY PROGRAMS OUT THERE MAY 24, 2012 129 1 THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT MODELING THAT. SO I HOPE THAT 2 THAT'S A CONSIDERATION AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK 3 WITHIN. 4 THE STUDENTS HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE LOOKING AT 5 OUR FUNDING ISSUES. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE, 6 BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE STILL NEED TO DO SOME SEARCHING 7 WITHIN TO COME OUTSIDE OF OUR CAMPS AND TO REALLY EXPLORE 8 HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, SO THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 10 ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 11 OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 12 PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 13 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, TRUSTEES? 14 OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT 15 ITEM WHICH IS ACTION ON THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. THE FIRST 16 RESOLUTION IS B3. 17 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM B3 IS ENTITLED, 18 "AUTHORIZATION FOR TWO NEW CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THAT ARE 19 NO MORE THAN $15,000 AND NEW CONSTRUCTION RELATED SERVICE 20 CONTRACTS THAT ARE NOT MORE THAN $60,000. CONTRACTS NOT 21 SUBJECT TO THE FORMAL BIDDING REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUBLIC 22 CONTRACT CODE." 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION FOR B3? 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. MAY 24, 2012 130 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER; 2 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 3 I WILL NOTE THAT THE FACILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE 4 TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE DID APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND 5 FORWARDED IT TO THE BOARD. 6 I AM GOING TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT RIGHT NOW ON 7 THIS RESOLUTION. I THINK THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC 8 WHO ASKED US TO PULL THIS FROM THE AGENDA. 9 NO PUBLIC COMMENT? 10 BOARD DISCUSSION? 11 NO BOARD DISCUSSION. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 15 "AYE." 16 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 20 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 24 B3 IS APPROVED. 25 B4. MAY 24, 2012 131 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM B4 IS ENTITLED, 2 "AUTHORIZATION TO CONDUCT A WINTER BREAK 2012-2013 STUDY 3 ABOARD PROGRAM IN CUBA, AND TO CONTRACT WITH WORLD PASS 4 INTERNATIONAL TOURS AND EVENTS FOR TRAVEL AND LOGISTICAL 5 PROGRAM ARRANGEMENTS." 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR 7 B4? 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 12 FANG. 13 ANY DISCUSSION, BOARD MEMBERS? 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 15 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I WANTED TO ASK VICE 16 CHANCELLOR LOW A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS 17 RESOLUTION. 18 I GUESS THE QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH HOW WELL 19 THIS PROGRAM SERVES OUR STUDENTS. AND I AM WONDERING IF 20 THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY NOW AND 21 THEN I'M ALSO ASKING WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE SCHOLARSHIP 22 MONEY ATTACHED TO THIS? 23 VCAA LOW: THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS UP TO $500 24 IN SCHOLARSHIP. LAST YEAR WAS OUR FIRST YEAR RUNNING IT 25 AND IT WAS AT CAPACITY. WE -- RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 75 MAY 24, 2012 132 1 PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR THIS COMING WINTER BREAK. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THEY ARE ALL STUDENTS? 3 VCAA LOW: THEY ALL -- I DON'T KNOW WHO IS ON 4 THE WAITING LIST, BUT THEY WILL ALL BE STUDENTS WHEN THEY 5 ENROLL IN THE PROGRAM. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THEY HAVE TO. THEY 7 HAVE TO BE STUDENTS. 8 VCAA LOW: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT'S THE COST TO THE 10 DISTRICT OF THIS PROGRAM? 11 VCAA LOW: THE COST TO THE DISTRICT -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE COST TO THE DISTRICT? 13 VCAA LOW: NO. WE DON'T PAY FOR ANY OF THE 14 EXPENSES. STUDENTS PAY FOR THAT. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: MY QUESTION IS WHY DO YOU KEEP ON 17 TEASING US WITH THESE STUDY ABROAD RESOLUTIONS? 18 VCAA LOW: YOU WANT -- YOU CAN SIGN UP AND GO. 19 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE COULD PUT YOUR 20 NAME ON THE WAITING LIST. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: ISN'T THIS AN FIO OR SOMETHING, 22 CUBA, VIETNAM. I MEAN STOP IT. 23 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WE WILL PUT YOUR 24 NAME ON THE WAITING LIST TOO. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: REALLY, A CONSENT ITEM, PLEASE. MAY 24, 2012 133 1 VCAA LOW: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 3 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 4 SEEING NONE, STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 15 B4 IS APPROVED. 16 F1. 17 COUNSEL DICKEY: F1 IS ENTITLED, "ESTABLISHING 18 NEW CLASSIFICATIONS FOR NON-EDUCATIONAL ADMINISTRATORS TO 19 CORRESPOND TO EXISTING SFERS CLASSIFICATIONS FOR MANAGER 20 LEVEL 1 ADMINISTRATORS." 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 24 SECOND? 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. MAY 24, 2012 134 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 2 FANG. 3 DISCUSSION? 4 NOPE, IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 5 MR. BOEGEL: YES. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TOM BOEGEL. 7 MR. BOEGEL: HI, I'M TOM BOEGEL. I AM THE 8 CO-CHAIRS OF THE ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION. 9 THIS RESOLUTION WAS FIRST ON THE AGENDA LAST 10 MONTH AND WAS TABLED. WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT, IT PROMPTED 11 A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION AMONG OUR GROUP. IT'S OUR 12 HOPE THAT DESPITE THE TACTICAL REASONS FOR THE SECOND 13 SALARY TABLE, THAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO 14 CONSIDER THE ADMINISTRATION AS A SINGLE GROUP WITHIN THE 15 CITY COLLEGE FAMILY, WHETHER WE ARE DEANS, VICE 16 CHANCELLORS OR MANAGER IV'S. THANK YOU. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: THIS SALARY SCHEDULE REQUESTS THE 21 BOARD'S ADOPTION OF THE REDUCED STEP, THE 13 STEP TO 12, 22 RIGHT? SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MOST RECENT ONE? 23 MR. BOEGEL: YES, IT IS. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. GOOD. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC MAY 24, 2012 135 1 COMMENT? 2 NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC 3 COMMENT. 4 I JUST WANT TO ASK HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS IS 5 REVENUE NEUTRAL? IS THERE SOMEONE WHO CAN TELL US THAT? 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WELL, I GUESS THAT 7 WOULD BE BETWEEN CHANCELLOR GOLDSTEIN, PERHAPS STARR CAN 8 DO THAT. 9 THE BACKGROUND ON THIS WASN'T REALLY SHARED AS 10 YOU -- 11 MS. STARR: RIGHT. 12 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AND I THINK THAT 13 WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT PART TO START, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE 14 IN THE AUDIENCE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND. 15 MS. STARR: GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, 16 ADMINISTRATION, FACULTY AND STAFF. 17 THE REASON THIS RESOLUTION IS HERE IS BECAUSE 18 WE'VE HAD AN STERS AUDIT. AND IN THAT AUDIT, THEY HAVE 19 PROPOSED THAT SOME OF THE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE NOT IN 20 INSTRUCTION AND NOT IN STUDENT SERVICES ARE POSSIBLY NOT 21 SUPPOSED TO BE MEMBERS OF STRS. WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL 22 RULING ON THAT AUDIT. WE HAVE CONTESTED IT. BUT OUR HOPE 23 IS THAT THESE MEMBERS CAN STAY IN STRS, BUT SOME OF THEM 24 HAVE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM A LONG TIME AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT 25 TO A RETIREMENT SYSTEM. AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH SFERS AND MAY 24, 2012 136 1 THEY HAVE AGREED CONDITIONALLY TO ACCEPT OUR MEMBERS SO 2 THIS IS WHY THIS RESOLUTION IS HERE. 3 THE SALARY IS THE SAME. IN TERMS OF SALARY, IT 4 IS EXACTLY THE SAME SALARY AS THE ADMINISTRATORS. A 5 MANAGER IV IS AN ASSOCIATE DEAN. MANAGED V IS A DEAN. 6 MANAGER VI IS AN ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR. AND MANAGER 7 VII A VICE CHANCELLOR. THEY ARE IDENTICAL EXACTLY THE 8 SAME. 9 NOW WHEN THEY SAY, IS IT REVENUE NEUTRAL? THE 10 SFERS SYSTEM IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN STRS. WE ARE ALL 11 AWARE OF THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO WORK TO MOVE THESE PEOPLE 12 INTO RETIREMENT SYSTEM IF STRS SAYS THAT THEY CAN NO 13 LONGER BE IN THEIR SYSTEM. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE 15 ASSOCIATED VICE CHANCELLORS. IS THAT RIGHT? 16 MS. STARR: YES. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THEY WILL BE MOVED INTO THAT 18 COLUMN? 19 MS. STARR: THAT'S RIGHT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO THE STEPS FOR THESE, LIKE 22 TRUSTEE NGO SAID, THE STEPS -- 23 MS. STARR: ARE IDENTICAL, THE SAME -- 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- ARE IDENTICAL. 25 MS. STARR: -- AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SALARY MAY 24, 2012 137 1 SCHEDULE. AND THEY WILL ALL STILL BE ADMINISTRATORS. 2 IT'S JUST THAT SOME HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING MEMBERS 3 OF SFERS AND SOME WILL BE MEMBERS OF STRS. 4 YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, MOST 5 ADMINISTRATORS CAME FROM FACULTY. SO THERE WAS NEVER 6 QUESTION BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM. AFTER 7 1990 AND AB 1725, THE THINGS CHANGED. THERE ARE MORE 8 PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME INTO THE SYSTEM THAT ARE FROM THE 9 OUTSIDE AND MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD FACULTY EXPERIENCE. SO 10 THAT'S WHY STRS IS GOING THROUGH A TREMENDOUS CHANGE. 11 THEY ARE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE ISSUES. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE 12 SURE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE ADMINISTRATORS IN THE 13 DISTRICT WHO NIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE IN THE STRS 14 SYSTEM. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO THAT WOULD MAKE OUR -- KIND 16 OF OUR RETIREMENT LIABILITY A LITTLE BIT MORE? AM I 17 UNDERSTANDING THAT? 18 MS. STARR: IT COULD POSSIBLY MAKE THE 19 RETIREMENT LIABILITY A LITTLE BIT MORE. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 21 MS. STARR: TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, I MEAN SOME 22 PEOPLE HAVE SAID, IT IS NOT REVENUE NEUTRAL IN TERMS OF 23 THE SALARY, IT IS IDENTICALLY THE SAME. BUT ST -- SFERS 24 IS MORE COSTLY THAN STRS IN TERMS OF THE EMPLOYER PORTION. 25 IT IS, SO I HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. MAY 24, 2012 138 1 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THAT'S A GOOD 2 CLARIFICATION. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 4 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: AT THE SAME TIME, 5 THE REALITY IS WE HAVE BOTH A LEGAL AND MORAL OBLIGATION 6 FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM. 7 MS. STARR: THAT'S RIGHT. 8 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S 9 COMING FROM. 10 MS. STARR: SO THIS IS TO BE FAIR WITH 11 EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND LASTLY WITH THOSE CHANGES, 14 LIKE HOPEFULLY, WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE THEY ARE REFLECTED 15 IN A BUDGET, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE. 16 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: ABSOLUTELY. 17 AND WE WILL ALSO TAKE GREAT CARE WHERE PEOPLE 18 ARE PLACED WHEN THE GOOD DAYS COME THAT YOU GET TO HIRE 19 NEW PEOPLE. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THAT'S PART OF THE 22 ISSUE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. FURTHER DISCUSSION? 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. MAY 24, 2012 139 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 10 F1 IS APPROVED. 11 F2. 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: F2 IS ENTITLED, "AUTHORIZATION 13 TO ESTABLISH SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR POSITIONS STATED 14 BELOW FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012-2013." 15 I WOULD REMIND THE BOARD AT THIS POINT THERE IS 16 ONE CHANGE TO THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THE IDEA WAS 17 THE CREATION OF THE ZERO 0933 MANAGER V PORTION. 0933 IS 18 ALREADY A CIVIL SERVICE DESIGNATION THAT WE USE HERE SO WE 19 ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER FOR THAT, BUT THE 20 DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES WILL FIGURE THAT OUT ONCE 21 WE'VE -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: -- MOVED FORWARD. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE FOR ADOPTION. MAY 24, 2012 140 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 4 PUBLIC COMMENT? 5 NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 6 OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 7 DISCUSSION? 8 I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS COLUMN B IN THE 9 PREVIOUS RESOLUTIONS. WHY IS THIS A SEPARATE RESOLUTION? 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: WE ARE CREATING A SPECIFIC 11 POSITION BECAUSE WE ARE BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF MOVING 12 SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE WITHIN STRS TO SFERS AND 13 WE ARE STARTING WITH THIS ONE. WE TYPICALLY HAVE BOTH THE 14 SALARY SCHEDULE AND THEN SPECIFIC DESIGNATION OF THE 15 POSITION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE JUST DOING. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, HOW ABOUT THE OTHER 17 COLUMNS A, C, AND D? 18 COUNSEL DICKEY: WHEN WE GET TO THE 19 ADMINISTRATORS, WE WILL DO THAT AT THAT TIME. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 COUNSEL DICKEY: BUT WE ARE ONLY DOING ONE AT 22 THIS TIME. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 24 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. MAY 24, 2012 141 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 3 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 7 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 11 F2 IS ADOPTED. 12 F3. 13 COUNSEL DICKEY: F3 IS ENTITLED, "TRANSFER OF 14 EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT TO THE CHANCELLOR (DEAN) TO 15 NON-EDUCATIONAL ADMINISTRATOR, CLASSIFICATION B, MANAGER V 16 RESEARCH AND POLICY DIVISION." 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 20 SECOND? 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 23 FANG. 24 DISCUSSION? 25 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, I HAVE DISCUSSION. MAY 24, 2012 142 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TRUSTEE BERG. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: I HAVE TWO. I WOULD LIKE TO 3 CONGRATULATE OUR PERSON GOHAR MOMJIAN FOR GOING BACK TO A 4 POSITION SHE HELD BEFORE. SHE WAS HIGHLY REGARDED. AND 5 WE THOUGHT YOU WERE ALSO HIGHLY REGARDED IN THE 6 CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. SO I AM JUST COMMENTING TO WISH YOU 7 GOOD LUCK IN YOUR NEW POSITION OR YOUR OLD NEW POSITION. 8 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: FOR THE SAKE OF 9 DISCLOSURE, I AM NOT LETTING HER GO BACK YET. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: THERE YOU GO. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: JUST SO YOU KNOW. 12 SHE WILL GO THERE EVENTUALLY, BUT NOT YET. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: WE ARE GOING TO CUT IN HALVES. 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: PART OF MY DEAL WITH 15 YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PUBLIC COMMENT? 17 OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE DONE. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 21 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. MAY 24, 2012 143 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 4 F3 IS APPROVED. 5 S1. 6 COUNSEL DICKEY: S1 IS ENTITLED, "APPROVAL OF 28 7 NEW COURSES, 4 NEW COURSE OPTIONS" -- 8 TRUSTEE BERG: WASN'T IT ON CONSENT? 9 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO, IT'S BEEN PULLED FROM 10 CONSENT. 11 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IT WAS PULLED. 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT'S ENTITLED, "APPROVAL OF 28 13 NEW COURSES, 4 NEW COURSE OPTIONS, AND 10 NEW 14 INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS RECOMMENDED BY THE COLLEGE 15 CURRICULUM COMMITTEE." 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 19 SECOND? 20 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 22 DISCUSSION? 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WHO PULLED IT? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T REMEMBER. 25 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE JACKSON I BELIEVE IT MAY 24, 2012 144 1 WAS. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: CHRIS. 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: TRUSTEE JACKSON AND I 4 AGREED BECAUSE I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION AS WELL. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 6 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AND I GUESS IT WAS 7 MR. BOEGEL WHO CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION. 8 I AM LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL COURSES THAT ARE 9 OFFERED, AND THE CERTIFICATE, THE -- WELL, THE NEW 10 CLASSES. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE PROCESS AGAIN. 11 AND SOMEHOW IF WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THOSE COMMUNITIES 12 WHO REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS 13 PROCESS. 14 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. HI, TOM BOEGEL. I AM THE 15 DEAN OF CURRICULUM. 16 TOGETHER WITH MELINDA WEIL, OUR CURRICULUM 17 COMMITTEE CHAIR, I WORKED CLOSELY WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS AND 18 THE COMMITTEE ON NEW COURSES AND PROGRAMS THAT YOU SEE IN 19 THIS RESOLUTION. 20 TWO MONTHS AGO YOU MAY RECALL YOU PASSED THE 21 RESOLUTION FOR THE 2012-2013 CATALOG. I ACTUALLY BROUGHT 22 COPIES. AND I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAND THIS OUT TO 23 YOU NOW. 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 25 MR. BOEGEL: BECAUSE I THINK THIS WOULD BE MAY 24, 2012 145 1 HELPFUL. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 3 MR. BOEGEL: I DID NOT AUTOGRAPH THEM. YOU'LL 4 GET ONE LATER. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU, TOM. THAT'S GREAT. 6 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: PRETTY SOON WE WON'T 7 HAVE HARD COPIES. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THIS IS NICE. 9 MR. BOEGEL: IF YOU LOOK AT THE CATALOG, SO THIS 10 IS THE CATALOG. THIS IS WHAT THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE 11 WORKS WITH IS THE COURSE CATALOG. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS 12 CATALOG, YOU WILL SEE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT COLOR PAGES 13 HERE. THERE'S SOME NEWSPRINT IN THE MIDDLE. THIS IS 14 PROGRAMS AND COURSES SECTION OF THE CATALOG. AND THIS IS 15 WHAT THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE WORKS WITH. 16 THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR 17 GENERATING OR IMPLEMENTING THE CURRICULUM PROPOSALS IT 18 APPROVES. THAT RESPONSIBILITY LIES WITH THE FACULTY AND 19 THE DEPARTMENTS. SIMILARLY, THE COMMITTEE IS ALSO NOT 20 INVOLVED WITH COURSE SCHEDULING. THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING 21 THAT IS THE PURVIEW OF DEPARTMENT CHAIRS, THEIR 22 SUPERVISOR, THE ADMINISTRATORS, AND THE FACULTY WITHIN 23 THOSE DEPARTMENTS. 24 THE FOCUS OF THE COMMITTEE IS ON THE ACADEMIC 25 MERIT OF EACH PROPOSAL AND ITS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MAY 24, 2012 146 1 OVERALL EDUCATIONAL GOALS OF THE COLLEGE. 2 SO IN TERMS OF THESE COURSES, YOU WILL SEE, YOU 3 KNOW, AS THE RESOLUTION SAYS, THERE'S 28 NEW COURSES. 4 THERE'S A NUMBER OF -- THERE'S 4 COURSES THAT WERE 5 APPROVED FOR TEACHING ONLINE AND THERE'S 10 NEW 6 CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS. 7 THIS IS WHAT THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE DOES AND 8 WHAT YOU ARE APPROVING HERE TODAY IS THAT WE HAVE GONE 9 THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND WE ARE ENSURING THE RIGOR OF THESE 10 COURSES AND THE RIGOR OF THESE -- THAT THE COURSES THAT 11 WE'RE SAYING ARE CREDIT DEGREE APPLICABLE ARE IN FACT 12 CREDIT DEGREE APPLICABLE. THE ONES THAT ARE -- MEANING 13 THAT ARE NONCREDIT BE THE STANDARD OF NONCREDIT COURSES 14 THAT WE FULFILLED OUR TITLE V RESPONSIBILITY WITH REGARDS 15 TO THE APPROVAL OF COURSES AND PROGRAMS. 16 I UNDERSTAND THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE 17 CONTINUING AND ONGOING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCHEDULING OF 18 COURSES. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU HERE 19 TODAY. WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU HERE TODAY IS JUST AN 20 APPROVAL THAT WE HAVE IN FACT FULFILLED OUR OBLIGATIONS 21 UNDER TITLE V THAT THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE REVIEWS AND 22 APPROVES -- AND RECOMMENDS, ULTIMATELY TO YOU THE BOARD, 23 THE APPROVAL OF THESE COURSES. 24 ONCE THIS BOARD APPROVES IT, THEN I GET TO GO 25 AND TURN AROUND AND SUBMIT MANY OF THESE OVER TO THE STATE MAY 24, 2012 147 1 CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE WHO HAS ULTIMATE APPROVAL AUTHORITY 2 FOR MANY OF OUR COURSES AND PROGRAMS. 3 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: I MIGHT ADD TOO JUST 4 SO YOU CAN -- YOU GAVE ME A CRASH COURSE IN THE PROCESS. 5 AS FOR AB 1725, THIS IS LARGELY AN ACADEMIC SENATE 6 RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S THEIR CALL. IF YOU HAD SERIOUS 7 RESERVATIONS ABOUT A PARTICULAR CLASS FOR SOME REASON AND 8 HAD WANTED TO PURSUE THAT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO PULL THAT 9 OFFLINE AND DO THAT. BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS -- THIS 10 IS CLEARLY ONE OF THEIR CALLS. BUT IT ISN'T A SCHEDULING 11 ISSUE. IT'S JUST A MATTER THAT SAYS, IF THESE CLASSES ARE 12 OFFERED AND IF THEY FOLLOW THE OUTLINE, THAT THEY'VE MET 13 THE CRITERIA THAT TOM JUST MENTIONED. 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AND ONE ADDITIONAL 15 QUESTION. 16 MR. BOEGEL: SURE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION. 18 MR. BOEGEL: THANK YOU. 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: IF WE LOOK UNDER 20 AUTOMOTIVE, MOTORCYCLE, CONSTRUCTION AND BUILDING 21 MAINTENANCE, THE LAST ITEM THE CNST. 22 MR. BOEGEL: 107A. 23 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: BLUEPRINT READING. 24 MR. BOEGEL: YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY. I'M GLAD THAT 25 YOU ARE POINTING THAT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY A MAY 24, 2012 148 1 TYPOGRAPH -- WE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE TITLE OF THIS COURSE 2 WHEN WE APPROVED IT. WE STRUCK THE TERM CITY BUILD FROM 3 IT BECAUSE WHILE THERE IS A NEED FOR -- BASICALLY WHAT THE 4 AUTOMOTIVE, CONSTRUCTION, AND BUILDING MAINTENANCE 5 DEPARTMENT SAID IS THAT THEY NEEDED A SHORTER VERSION OF 6 THEIR EXISTING BLUEPRINT COURSE TO SERVE NEEDS SUCH AS THE 7 NEEDS PROVIDED TO US BY VIA CITY BUILD. THIS IS NOT GOING 8 TO BE A CITY BUILD EXCLUSIVE CLASS. WE DON'T DO THAT. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 10 MR. BOEGEL: WE DON'T DO THAT. 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 12 MR. BOEGEL: SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT -- 13 RAISING THAT QUESTION. 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I 16 ACTUALLY PULLED IT. 17 MR. BOEGEL: YES. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO 19 CONGRATULATE ON THE INTERDISCIPLINARY STUDIES THE 20 DIVERSITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE. I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY 21 COOL, YOU KNOW, NEW CERTIFICATE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT. AND, 22 YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF THE 23 PROGRAMS THAT KIND OF SHOW OUR SAN FRANCISCO VALUES. AND, 24 YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HEARD 25 PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAY 24, 2012 149 1 WHAT IS IT CALLED, MPICT AND THE NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, 2 TECHNOLOGY AND COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY CLASSES. 3 WE HAVE A NEW PROGRAM WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF THESE 4 TECH COMPANIES MOVE TO MID-MARKET THEY HAVE -- THEY GET A 5 TAX BREAK, WHICH I AM NOT REALLY IN SUPPORT OF. BUT WITH 6 THAT TAX BREAK, THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE TO DO SOME KIND OF 7 COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITY BENEFITS 8 ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, 9 INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS, TRAINING PROGRAMS. AND WITH THOSE 10 TRAINING PROGRAMS, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE SOME 11 CLASSES, YOU KNOW, TO HELP TRAIN PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT IN THE 12 TECH SECTOR TO GET TRAINED TO GO INTO THE TECH SECTOR. 13 AND SO YOU KNOW IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, TO 14 THINK MAYBE WE THINK ABOUT CREATING CLASSES, YOU KNOW, 15 AROUND SPECIFICALLY TRAINING PEOPLE TO GO INTO SOME OF 16 THESE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES THAT ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER 17 MID-MARKET. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON I WANT TO PULL 18 IT IS JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION -- OR JUST TO HAVE A 19 COMMENT AROUND PREPARING FOLKS FOR THE TECH SECTOR THAT'S 20 HERE AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN GET INTO THERE AND TO 21 CONGRATULATE US ON, YOU KNOW, CREATING THIS DIVERSITY AND 22 SOCIAL JUSTICE CERTIFICATE PROGRAM. 23 MR. BOEGEL: THANK YOU. THAT'S ABOUT IT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: KUDOS ON THE QR CODE CATALOG. 25 MR. BOEGEL: THANK YOU. MAY 24, 2012 150 1 TRUSTEE NGO: NICE JOB. 2 ON THAT NOTE SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST FOUND 3 OUT JUST THROUGH TALKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE THAT SECURED 4 THE GRANT, THE H-1B GRANT THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW 5 COMMUNITY COLLEGES THAT OFFER IPHONE APP CLASSES AND 6 ANDROID CLASSES. 7 MR. BOEGEL: WE ARE? 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I THINK MY PROBLEM WITH THAT 9 IS THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT. SO I HOPE WE CAN GET 10 WHENEVER THIS PR PERSON COMES ON, IF THEY DO COME ON, DO A 11 BETTER JOB OF SHOWCASING ALL THE WONDERFUL COURSES THAT AT 12 LEAST WE ARE CUTTING -- WE ARE NOT CUTTING AS MUCH OR THAT 13 WE STILL HAVE AROUND TO TRAIN THESE -- TO TRAIN FOLKS TO 14 ACCESS THESE JOBS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE CITY, SO THANK 15 YOU. 16 MR. BOEGEL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE KAREN SAGINOR. 18 MS. SAGINOR: PRESIDENT KAREN SAGINOR OF THE 19 ACADEMIC SENATE. 20 I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CURRICULUM 21 COMMITTEE IS A COMMITTEE OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE AND WE DO 22 APPROVE THEIR WORK. THEY HAVE AN EXCELLENT, 23 WELL-PUT-TOGETHER, STRUCTURED WAY OF DOING THEIR WORK SO 24 WE PRETTY MUCH TRUST THEM ON WHAT THEY'VE DONE BECAUSE 25 THEY'VE DEVELOPED THIS OVER THE YEARS. IT IS, AS TOM MAY 24, 2012 151 1 BOEGEL WAS SAYING, IT IS THE DEPARTMENTS. THE DEPARTMENT 2 CHAIRS USUALLY, ALONG WITH WHOEVER IS WORKING ON IT, WHICH 3 COULD BE ANY FACULTY MEMBER IN THE DEPARTMENT WHO WORK ON 4 PUTTING TOGETHER MATERIALS AND PREPARING A COURSE AND 5 GETTING A COURSE APPROVED. 6 IT ACTUALLY WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO ASK 7 FOR A COURSE TO BE APPROVED. IT ISN'T ACTUALLY REQUIRED 8 THAT IT COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT. IT WOULD BE VERY 9 UNUSUAL AND WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR SOMEONE WHO WASN'T A 10 MEMBER OF THAT DEPARTMENT TO REALLY GET INTO IT TO THE 11 DEPTH THAT'S REQUIRED TO PUT TOGETHER THE INFORMATION 12 THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE TO APPROVE A 13 COURSE, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 16 OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 17 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, 19 YOU KNOW, SO JUST GETTING TO KAREN'S POINT. SO IF WE WERE 20 TO WORK WITH SOME OF THESE TECH COMPANIES TO KIND OF 21 FIGURE OUT WHAT WERE THE SKILLS THAT THEY NEEDED SOMEONE 22 FROM CNIT OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD -- MAYBE WHOEVER IS THE 23 BEST PERSON TO ANSWER THIS -- THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO KIND 24 OF PACKAGE CLASSES TOGETHER AND ASK FOR A CLASS? 25 MR. BOEGEL: WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE, ALL OF OUR MAY 24, 2012 152 1 DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE CT DEPARTMENTS HAVE INDUSTRY ADVISORY 2 BOARDS. I, AS A FORMER DEPARTMENT CHAIR, I KNOW WE 3 ALWAYS -- WE SOMETIMES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY 4 FINDING PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME AND SIT IN OUR INDUSTRY 5 ADVISORY BOARDS. WE BOUGHT THEM FOOD AND THAT WAS GOOD. 6 WE WOULD INVITE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT 7 PROCESS. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE INDUSTRY ADVISORY BOARD 8 IS TO REVIEW THE CURRICULUM OF THAT DEPARTMENT AND MAKE 9 RECOMMENDATIONS. 10 AND CERTAINLY, WHEN I WAS DEPARTMENT CHAIR OF 11 THE COMPUTER SCIENCE DEPARTMENT, WE TOOK THOSE 12 RECOMMENDATIONS TO HEART. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FURTHER DISCUSSION? 15 OKAY, WE'LL VOTE. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. MAY 24, 2012 153 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 S1 IS APPROVED. 3 S2. 4 COUNSEL DICKEY: S2 IS ENTITLED, "RESOLUTION IN 5 OPPOSITION TO SB 1456 LOWENTHAL, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, 6 SEYMOUR-CAMPBELL STUDENT SUCCESS ACT OF 2012." 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG; 11 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 12 THIS IS THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD CHANGE THE 13 BOG FEE WAIVER POLICY. IT WOULD BASICALLY MAKE A LOT OF 14 LOW INCOME STUDENTS INELIGIBLE FOR BOG FEE WAIVERS, 15 ESPECIALLY CUTTING OFF THEIR FINANCIAL AID AND BASICALLY 16 KICKING THEM OUT OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: MAY I BE ADDED AS A 18 CO-SPONSOR? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CERTAINLY. CERTAINLY. 20 WE WILL NOTE THAT IN A MINUTE. 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SURE. 22 WHY DON'T WE START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. 23 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 24 THANK YOU. 25 MS. SAGINOR: SO MANY OF OUR STUDENTS FROM CITY MAY 24, 2012 154 1 COLLEGE HAVE SPOKEN ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE. ONE OF THE REAL 2 PROBLEMS WITH THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT IS PROPOSED IS 3 AS YOU MENTIONED, THE BOG FEE WAIVER ISSUE. ONE OF THE 4 THINGS IT DOESN'T SEEM -- IT SEEMS SOMETIMES TO GET LOST 5 IN THIS IS THE IDEA THAT, OH, WELL STUDENTS ARE NOT 6 PERFORMING, THEN WHY WOULD WE SUBSIDIZE THEM. 7 AND WHAT GETS LOST FROM THAT IS THAT THE 8 STUDENTS WHO ARE PAYING FEES ARE ALSO GETTING SUBSIDIZED. 9 ALL CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ARE SUBSIDIZED, YOU KNOW, MORE 10 THAN THREE-FOURTHS OF THE ACTUAL COST OF THE COURSE. THE 11 BOG FEE WAIVER STUDENTS ARE SUBSIDIZED FOR THE ADDITIONAL 12 FEE, BUT ALL STUDENTS ARE SUBSIDIZED. 13 THE IDEA THAT THE STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT AFFLUENT 14 ENOUGH TO MANAGE TO PAY THE FEE PART SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO 15 BE ABLE TO PERFORM MORE EASILY AND NOT HAVE AS MUCH 16 DIFFICULTY IN KEEPING THEIR GRADES UP AS STUDENTS WHO HAVE 17 MORE INCOME, DOESN'T SEEM AT ALL LOGICAL TO ME. 18 I AM VERY, VERY SORRY TO REPORT HOWEVER THAT THE 19 STATE ACADEMIC SENATE DIDN'T SEE IT THE SAME WAY I DO. 20 RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION. IF 21 IT WERE TO PASS AND BECOME LAW, THEN IT WOULD BE OUR DUTY 22 AS THE ACADEMIC SENATE TO DO WHATEVER NEEDED TO BE DONE AT 23 CITY COLLEGE TO COMPLY WITH IT. I -- THIS IS OUR 24 OPPORTUNITY BEFORE IT BECOMES LAW TO LET FOLKS IN 25 SACRAMENTO KNOW THAT WE DON'T THINK THIS IS GOOD POLICY MAY 24, 2012 155 1 FOR OUR STUDENTS. THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 4 OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, 7 YOU KNOW, THANK KAREN FOR HER WORDS. THIS IS KIND OF AN 8 ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOT -- I DIDN'T REALLY EVEN 9 KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE, YOU KNOW, 10 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, UNTIL I ACTUALLY JUST READ ABOUT 11 THIS. AND THEN I WAS LIKE, OH, WOW, IT'S PART OF A BIGGER 12 PICTURE. AND THEN THAT KIND OF GOT ME TO READ THE ENTIRE 13 THING. AND THIS IS KIND OF A DIRECT ATTACK ON POOR 14 STUDENTS. AND THEY NEED THE HELP MORE THAN OTHER 15 STUDENTS. 16 AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE KAREN SAID, I DID HAVE THE 17 OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO, YOU KNOW, OUR GRADUATION AT JOHN 18 ADAMS FOR FOLKS GETTING THEIR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. MANY 19 OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE ON BOG WAIVERS. 20 AND THE FACT THAT THOSE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE 21 HISTORICALLY STRUGGLED IN SCHOOL COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE 22 THEIR ACCESS TO BOG WAIVERS IS JUST KIND OF BEYOND ME 23 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONCE A STUDENT, YOU KNOW, DROPS OUT, 24 THEY ARE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO COME BACK SO THE FACT THAT 25 THEY WOULD DROP OUT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE LACK OF MAY 24, 2012 156 1 FUNDS IS EVEN MORE DAUNTING IN A STATE THAT'S SUPPOSED 2 DEEP BLUE, BUT YOU KNOW I KIND OF QUESTION IT. 3 SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK TRUSTEE RIZZO AND 4 TRUSTEE FANG FOR, YOU KNOW, AUTHORING THIS RESOLUTION. 5 AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY HOPE THAT WE SEND A VERY STRONG 6 MESSAGE STATEWIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES NOT IN ANY WAY 7 PROMOTE STUDENT SUCCESS. I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM HOW, YOU 8 KNOW, KICKING POOR STUDENTS OFF OF AID PROMOTES, YOU KNOW, 9 STUDENT SUCCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE OUR MESSAGE GETS 10 THROUGH. THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE FANG. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YEAH, THANK YOU, TRUSTEE 13 JACKSON. 14 TO TAG ON THAT, YOU ARE RIGHT THE WHOLE THING -- 15 THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. THE FIRST PHASE OF IMPLEMENTATION 16 FOR THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION AS 17 STATED BY THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE THEMSELVES IN 18 JANUARY ACTUALLY. 19 THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY PROMOTE 20 SUCCESS, AND IT BASICALLY CHANGES WHO WE FOCUS OUR 21 RESOURCES ON. AND THE RHETORIC AROUND THE STATE SO OFTEN 22 HAS BEEN, WELL, IT'S TIME TO DO A CHANGE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 23 TO FOCUS ON STUDENTS WHO CAN GET THROUGH. 24 AND WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT WAS THEIR CODE OF 25 MESSAGE FOR MIDDLE CLASS STUDENTS WHO WANT TO SAVE MONEY MAY 24, 2012 157 1 AND NOT GO TO A FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITY AND GO TO TWO YEARS 2 INSTEAD. LET'S MAKE SPACE FOR THEM. AND THOSE WHO ARE 3 LOW INCOME AND FAILING, WELL, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO 4 SUCCEED, KICK THEM OUT. BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT'S IMPLIED. 5 AND MANY A TIME I TRIED TO ARGUE AGAINST THAT IN 6 MANY OF THE COMMITTEES AND TRY TO LET THEM SEE WHAT THEY 7 ARE REALLY DOING. BUT WHAT'S ALSO DISHEARTENING, THAT'S 8 WHY ELSE I NEED TO SEND THIS MESSAGE IS THAT THERE ARE -- 9 THAT THE WAY THIS ACT HAS BEEN PUSHED AND SORT OF TRY TO 10 GET THE STATEWIDE SUPPORT FROM VARIOUS CONSTITUENT GROUPS 11 IS THROUGH SECRET MEETINGS. 12 I, MYSELF, HAVE HEARD FROM STUDENT LEADERS IN 13 SANTA MONICA COLLEGE, STUDENT TRUSTEE IN DE ANZA COLLEGE, 14 THAT SECRET MEETINGS, CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS, HAVE BEEN 15 CONDUCTED IN HOTELS FUNDED BY PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS. AND 16 THE MOMENT THEY GET IN THROUGH THAT ROOM WAS THEY TELL ME 17 THE CONTENT OF THE MEETING WAS IT WAS BILLED AS DISCUSSION 18 ON THE ACT ITSELF TO IMPROVE IT. BUT THEN AS SOON AS THEY 19 CLOSE THE DOOR, YOU HAVE THOSE WHO RUN THE MEETING FROM 20 THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE SAYING EVERYTHING SAID STAY 21 HERE. THIS IS A SECRET MEETING. 22 AND ON TOP OF THAT, WHAT YOU ALSO HAVE IS IT 23 WASN'T A DISCUSSION. STUDENT LEADERS HELD -- WHO ATTENDED 24 TELL ME THAT THE MOMENT FROM THE GET-GO IS WHY THIS IS 25 GOOD, WHY THIS IS GOOD, WHY THIS IS GOOD. IT WASN'T ABOUT MAY 24, 2012 158 1 ANY QUESTIONS. IT WAS BELIEVE THIS IS GOOD. SUPPORT 2 THIS, SUPPORT THIS, SUPPORT THIS. 3 AND WE NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE SAYING THAT IF WE 4 WANT TO IMPROVE STUDENT LEARNING OUTCOME, WE WANT TO 5 SUPPORT A STUDENT, THIS IS NOT THE WAY FORWARD. WE CAN DO 6 BETTER. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER RATHER THAN TRYING TO DIVIDE 7 AND CONQUER. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 TRUSTEE BERG. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: THOUGH I SYMPATHIZE WITH THIS 11 RESOLUTION AND I THINK IT IS A GREAT RESOLUTION, I AM 12 GOING TO ABSTAIN FOR THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT IS A 13 DIRECT CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR ME SINCE I AM A MEMBER OF 14 THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS. THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, TRUSTEE NGO. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I -- YOU KNOW, I THINK I AM GOING 17 TO BE THE LOAN DESCENTING VOTE HERE TONIGHT AS I HAVE BEEN 18 ON ALL OF THESE STUDENT SUCCESS RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK 19 WE JUST ARE LIVING IN DIFFERENT UNIVERSES. 20 AND, YOU KNOW, THE LAW THAT'S GETTING OUT THERE 21 AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU KNOW ARE NOT THAT MUCH 22 DIFFERENT THAN OUR WORK ON EQUITY AT ALL. AND THEY'VE 23 SHOWN THAT THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. 24 THIS IS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION CONDEMNING THIS 25 ACT, YOU KNOW, IS CONDEMNING SOME PORTIONS OF THE ACT MAY 24, 2012 159 1 WHICH IS NO LONGER APPLICABLE ANYMORE. I MEAN THOSE 2 ISSUES ABOUT A CAP ON STUDENTS WHO ENROLL IN A CERTAIN 3 AMOUNT OF UNITS, TO QUALIFY FOR BOG WAIVERS, THAT'S 4 ALREADY BEEN REMOVED FROM THE STATUTE. 5 AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT FEEDBACK AND 6 THEY WANT TO GET INPUT, AND INPUT HAS BEEN HEARD. YOU 7 KNOW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET A PERFECT, AT LEAST FROM THE 8 GET-GO, A PERFECT LEGISLATION TO WORK ON STUDENT SUCCESS, 9 BUT IT'S BEEN IMPROVED AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT. 10 I THINK IT IS CLEAR THAT THERE WERE SOME 11 PROVISIONS IN HERE THAT WERE UNDULY HARSH ON LOW INCOME 12 STUDENTS. AND THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE LEGISLATION 13 AMENDED ON THE 26TH OF APRIL REMOVED THAT UNIT CAP. AND 14 IT ACTUALLY SAID, WE ARE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT UNLESS 15 THERE IS SOME FUNDING TO SUPPORT THESE NEW MEASURES. 16 AND A LOT OF THE KIND OF, I THINK FAIRLY 17 CRITICIZED PROVISIONS IN THIS IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS 18 HAVE BEEN REMOVED OR AMENDED TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT A 19 WORKABLE DOCUMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR 20 OUR STUDENTS. I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE NOT 21 JUST FOCUSSING ON THE STUDENT, BUT ALSO ON THE INSTITUTION 22 TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEASURING HOW WELL WE GET OUR 23 STUDENTS INTO OUR PROGRAMS AND EITHER CERTIFICATED OR 24 TRANSFERRED OUT OR EARNING THEIR DEGREES. 25 I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING. AND, YOU KNOW, I MAY 24, 2012 160 1 SAID IT BEFORE, I THINK WE ARE PLAYING POLITICS WITH A LOT 2 OF THESE ISSUES. AND I THINK BOTH SIDES ARE PLAYING 3 POLITICS. AND WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THIS IN A VERY I 4 THINK FAIR-MINDED WAY. 5 AGAIN, THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN CRITICIZED 6 HARSHLY WHICH IS THE UNIT CAP, FOR EXAMPLE, ON BOG WAIVERS 7 IS GONE. IT IS NOT IN THE LEGISLATION ANYMORE. SO I 8 DON'T KNOW WHY -- AND WE ARE SAYING THAT THIS LEGISLATION 9 NOW SAYS AND RECOGNIZES THAT WE CAN'T DO THESE THINGS ON 10 STUDENT SUCCESS UNLESS THERE'S MONEY FOR IT. AND THAT'S 11 WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING FROM THE BEGINNING. 12 SO THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS HAS DONE ITS -- 13 SERVED ITS PURPOSE. AND IT'S AN APPROVED BILL. AND I 14 PERSONALLY THINK THE STATUS QUO IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR 15 MANY OF OUR STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY STUDENTS OF COLOR AND 16 THIS IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD IF THOSE MEASURES, THOSE 17 PROVISIONS ARE TAKEN OUT, WHICH I SAID AGAIN ARE UNDULY 18 HARSH ON LOW INCOME STUDENTS, AND YOU HAVE A MUCH IMPROVED 19 BILL. SO I WON'T BE VOTING FOR THIS RESOLUTION. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL SAY THAT THE PROVISION 21 IS STILL IN THE BILL. CHANGES OF THE BOG WAIVERS FROM A 22 FORM OF FINANCIAL AID TO A MERIT-BASED SCHOLARSHIP WHICH 23 ARE TWO FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF AID FOR STUDENTS. 24 ANYONE WHO HAS GONE THROUGH THE COLLEGE 25 APPLICATION PROCESS RECENTLY THEMSELVES KNOW THIS THAT MAY 24, 2012 161 1 THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE BASED ON GRADES AND SOME THAT ARE 2 BASED ON FINANCIAL NEED AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT. AND THEY 3 ARE FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. 4 THIS TAKES ONE OF THOSE -- IT TAKES THE ONE THAT 5 IS BASED ON FINANCIAL NEED AND CHANGES IT TO A MERIT-BASED 6 SCHOLARSHIP. AND SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE POSITION OF 7 HAVING FINANCIAL NEED, THE LOW INCOME STUDENTS THEY ARE 8 KIND OF CUT OUT OF THE SYSTEM. IT IS VERY COMMON FOR US 9 TO HAVE STUDENTS WHO COME IN WITH, YOU KNOW, UNDER 10 PERFORMING. 11 I MEAN THAT'S WHAT COMMUNITY COLLEGES DO. THEY 12 TAKE UNDERPERFORMING STUDENTS WHO HAVE HAD A TOUGH TIME IN 13 PREVIOUS EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS OR ENGLISH ISN'T THAT GOOD OR 14 WHATEVER. AND THEY STRUGGLE WHEN THEY START. BUT WE 15 BRING THEM UP. WE PULL THEM UP. AND THIS WOULD SAY, NO. 16 SORRY. YOUR -- BOG WAIVERS ARE NOW MERIT BASED AND YOU 17 DIDN'T MEET THE CUT, SO WE ARE NOT GOING GIVE YOU ANOTHER 18 CHANCE. WE ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THE TIME THAT WE'VE 19 GIVEN TO OTHER STUDENTS PREVIOUSLY TO PULL YOU UP, SO 20 SORRY YOU ARE OUT. 21 SO I THINK THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SIT 22 BY AND NOT OPPOSE BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T BE ELIMINATING ANY 23 FINANCIAL AID BASICALLY AND CHANGING IT TO MERIT BASED. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND, YOU KNOW, I DO -- I KNOW MAY 24, 2012 162 1 WE PROBABLY HAVE THE VOTES TO PASS THIS, BUT I DO WANT TO 2 APPEAL FOR A UNIFIED MESSAGE AND A UNIFIED VOTE. YOU 3 KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY GOT A FAIR SHAKE AT EDUCATION EVEN 4 THOUGH WE SAY THAT THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IS SUPPOSED TO BE 5 EVEN. IT'S NOT VERY EVEN. WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE 6 GRADUATION YESTERDAY IF EDUCATION WAS EVEN. 7 AND A LOT OF FOLKS START OFF, YOU KNOW, IN 8 PRESCHOOL. NOT EVERYBODY GETS TO GO TO A GOOD PRESCHOOL. 9 NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO GO TO A GOOD PRESCHOOL. NOT 10 EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO GO TO A GREAT, YOU KNOW, K-3 OR 11 K-5 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. NOT EVERYBODY GETS TO GO TO A GOOD 12 MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND IN SAN FRANCISCO, NOT EVERYBODY GETS 13 INTO LOWELL. 14 YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO 15 CSU, BUT THEN DECIDED JUST TO GO TO CITY COLLEGE BECAUSE, 16 YOU KNOW, IT IS CHEAPER. YOU KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE 17 ALL RIGHT. THEY ARE GONNA -- MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO 18 MAKE IT THROUGH THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SKILLS. 19 AND THEY HAD THE AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING. AND THEY HAVE 20 PARENTS WHO WERE INVOLVED, WHO ARE THERE, WHO HAVE 21 DISPOSAL TIME. NOT -- THE FOLKS ON BOG WAIVERS DON'T HAVE 22 THAT. THEY'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE SCHOOL 23 SYSTEM. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE AFTER SCHOOL 24 TUTORING, MANY OF THEM. 25 AND, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT IF YOU DON'T MAKE A MAY 24, 2012 163 1 CERTAIN GRADE AND TO PRETEND THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD MAKE A 2 CERTAIN GRADE BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME EDUCATION, IS 3 JUST UNFAIR. AND IF YOU ARE ALREADY LOW INCOME AND YOU'VE 4 ALREADY HAD EVERYTHING AGAINST YOU IN TERMS OF MAKING YOU 5 KNOW THE CUT, AND THEN WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD EVERY 6 OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A CUT, THAT'S JUST BUILDS INEQUALITY 7 INTO A SYSTEM. 8 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM GOING TO URGE MY -- YOU 9 KNOW, TRUSTEE NGO, I AM GOING TO URGE YOU REALLY STRONGLY 10 TO RECONSIDER YOUR OPPOSITION JUST ON A FUNDAMENTAL BASIS 11 THAT IT TURNS A NEED-BASED SCHOLARSHIP THAT'S BASED ON 12 FINANCIAL NEED TO A MERIT-BASE SCHOLARSHIP. 13 YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD -- IF THEY GAVE US BACK THE 14 BILLION DOLLARS THAT THEY TOOK OUT OF THIS SYSTEM, YOU 15 COULD MAKE SOME ARGUMENTS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT CUTTING 16 COUNSELORS. YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT CUTTING SECTIONS. 17 YOU KNOW, STUDENTS ARE HAVING TO PICK UP EXTRA JOBS. AND 18 WE KNOW THE MORE HOURS YOU WORK, THE LESS HOURS YOU ARE IN 19 SCHOOL. AND THE LESS UNITS YOU ARE TAKING IN SCHOOL, THE 20 WORST YOU ACTUALLY END UP DOING. FULL-TIME STUDENTS ON 21 PAR DO BETTER THAN PART-TIME STUDENTS. 22 SO IF THIS MONEY CAN JUST GET A -- IS JUST 23 ENOUGH MONEY TO GET A LOW INCOME STUDENT TO BECOME A 24 FULL-TIME STUDENT, JUST WITH THE EXTRA TAKING AWAY FROM 25 THE FEES, IT MAKES MORE EQUALITY INTO OUR SYSTEM. AND IT MAY 24, 2012 164 1 BREEDS SUCCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE BY VERY DEFINITION CAN 2 AFFORD TO TAKE A FULL-UNIT LOAD INSTEAD OF A HALF-UNIT 3 LOAD. 4 SO I WOULD REALLY STRONGLY CAUTION, YOU KNOW, TO 5 PLEASE, YOU KNOW, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION SO WE COULD 6 SEND SACRAMENTO AND THE STATEWIDE MESSAGE THAT SAN 7 FRANCISCO, YOU KNOW, IS FULLY UNIFIED IN OUR MESSAGE AND 8 OUR OPPOSITION TO THIS BOG WAIVERS FEE. 9 YOU KNOW I JUST -- YOU KNOW, I GOT ON THIS BOARD 10 BECAUSE OF THE STUDENTS WHO DO GET BOG WAIVERS. AND IT 11 WOULD REALLY SUCK IF THEY LOST THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE 12 IT BECAUSE THEY GOT A BAD SHAKE WHEN THEY WERE FOUR YEARS 13 OLD. SO I REALLY STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUE TO RECONSIDER 14 THIS. THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: I WOULD SUGGEST THAT EVERYBODY 17 LOOK AT SB 1456 WHICH IS THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED. 18 AND IF YOU READ THIS, YOU WILL FIND THAT ALL OF THE THINGS 19 THAT ARE DICTATED BY THE STUDENT SUCCESS ACT WOULD REQUIRE 20 ADDITIONAL COUNSELORS OR ADDITIONAL COURSEWORK, HAVE BEEN 21 FUNDED. THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE FUNDED. THE COLLEGE 22 WILL BE PAID FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SERVICES. 23 THAT'S WHAT THE LEGISLATION IS -- THE LEGISLATION SAYS. 24 IT WILL REQUIRE THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST OFFICE 25 TO REVIEW AND REPORT SPECIFIED INFORMATION REGARDING THE MAY 24, 2012 165 1 STUDENT SUCCESS ACT TO THE APPROPRIATE POLICY AND FISCAL 2 COMMITTEES OF THE LEGISLATURE. CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION 3 REQUIRES THE STATE TO REIMBURSE LOCAL AGENCIES AND SCHOOL 4 DISTRICTS FOR CERTAIN COSTS MANDATED BY THE STATE. 5 THAT MONEY WILL COME TO -- IF WE SHOW THAT WE'VE 6 HAD TO HIRE COUNSELORS OR HAD TO ADD CLASSES FOR SOME 7 REASON, WE WILL BE REIMBURSED FOR THAT. AND THAT PASSED. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 IT'S GETTING LATE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THIS 12 ISSUE. 13 STUDENT -- 14 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I ADDRESS YOUR POINT REAL 15 QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW I AM GOING TO LOSE A VOTE. BUT I 16 JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PHRASING IT AS AN MERIT-BASED 17 SCHOLARSHIP IS NOT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION IN MY OPINION. 18 WE ARE BASICALLY SAYING, WE HAD THE CAP, OKAY, A 19 CAP AT WHICH STUDENTS WOULD HAVE TO -- WOULD BE ELIGIBLE 20 UP TO THAT CAP WHICH IS A LOT OF UNITS AND THAT WAS 21 REMOVED. SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS WE WANT TO MAKE THE 22 INSTITUTION ITSELF ALSO ACCOUNTABLE TO THE STUDENT TO GET 23 THROUGH THE SYSTEM TO MEET ACADEMIC GOALS. 24 AND AGAIN, THE LEGISLATION HAS IMPROVED 25 SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME OUT, AND WE MAY 24, 2012 166 1 SHOULD APPLAUD THAT. THAT'S JUST A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND 2 IT'S BETTER THAN -- IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT THESE 3 FRAMINGS OF -- THE FRAMING OF THIS BOG WAIVER IS JUST I 4 THINK IS JUST A LITTLE UNFAIR. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 6 NO, I'M SORRY, WE'VE HAD -- PUBLIC COMMENT IS 7 CLOSED. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 11 "AYE." 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 16 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S2 CARRIES AND IS APPROVED. 22 S3. 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: S3 IS ENTITLED, "AUTHORIZATION 24 TO JOIN THE ALAMEDA COUNTY SCHOOLS' INSURANCE GROUP JOINT 25 POWERS AUTHORITY." MAY 24, 2012 167 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER; 5 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 6 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 7 SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 8 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 9 OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 19 OKAY, S3 IS APPROVED. 20 S4. 21 COUNSEL DICKEY: S4 IS ENTITLED, "RECOGNIZING 22 JEFFREY FANG'S SERVICES TO CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO 23 AS OUTGOING STUDENT TRUSTEE." 24 TRUSTEE WONG: I WILL MOVE THAT, MR. PRESIDENT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG. MAY 24, 2012 168 1 SECOND? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 4 LET'S TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST AND THEN WE WILL 5 GO TO THE BOARD. 6 WHO JUST HANDED ME, THERE'S NO -- 7 TRUSTEE WONG: KAREN. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, KAREN. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: KAREN SAGINOR. 10 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: SHE FORGOT HER NAME. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: UNDER NAME, IT SAYS, "JEFFREY 12 FANG" AND I DIDN'T THINK YOU -- 13 MS. SAGINOR: OH, SORRY. 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IT'S GETTING LATE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- WOULD TESTIFY AGAINST IT. 16 MS. SAGINOR: I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF. 17 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET LISTED HERE, 18 THERE ARE, OF COURSE, MANY THINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN 19 LISTED AND WEREN'T. THERE WASN'T SPACE FOR ALL OF THEM, 20 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WASN'T LISTED HERE WAS THE WORK 21 THAT JEFFREY FANG DID IN EXPANDING THE ACCESS TO SHARED 22 GOVERNANCE APPOINTMENTS TO ALL CAMPUSES. THAT WAS ONE OF 23 THE GREAT THINGS HE'S DONE IN HIS TWO YEARS HERE. 24 AND WE WILL REALLY, REALLY MISS YOU, JEFFREY, 25 THANK YOU. MAY 24, 2012 169 1 MR. WALKER: WILL YOU LET ME SPEAK WITHOUT A 2 CARD FOR NOW? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, CAN YOU FILL OUT ONE, 4 BUT GO AHEAD. 5 MR. WALKER: OF COURSE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STATE YOUR NAME FIRST. 7 MR. WALKER: WILLIAM WALKER, INCOMING STUDENT 8 TRUSTEE. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE INCOMING LAST YEAR, 9 BUT HE PUT A GOOD FIGHT UP. 10 ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK -- WELL, WHATEVER WE 11 THOUGHT LAST YEAR, I MET THIS GUY AND HE IS THE ONLY 12 REASON I GOT PAID AS THE A.S. VICE PRESIDENT OF 13 ADMINISTRATION AND THE PRESIDENT FOR OCEAN CAMPUS IN MY 14 LAST LIFE AT THIS COLLEGE. 15 AND I WAS ALWAYS WONDERING WHEN YOU WERE GOING 16 TO STEP UP. NOT ONLY DID HE STEP UP, HE STEPPED UP BEYOND 17 THE LEVELS THAT I SERVED THE COLLEGE, AND I AM VERY PROUD 18 OF YOU TO COME BACK AND LEARN THAT THERE'S A NEW ACTIVIST 19 IN TOWN, AND YOU HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF GOOD WORK FOR 20 THE COMMUNITY. 21 THE ONE THING I RESPECT ABOUT JEFF IS THAT WE 22 DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE ON ISSUES, BUT WE WERE ALWAYS ABLE TO 23 WORK AMICABLY TOGETHER. AND THAT'S SAYING A LOT FOR THIS 24 COLLEGE AS WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT MONTHS. 25 AND I CHALLENGE JEFF TO CONTINUE DOING WORK IN MAY 24, 2012 170 1 YOUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO POP 2 UP, BUT I AM SURE YOU WON'T BE FAR AWAY AND DON'T FORGET 3 US. I AM SURE YOU WON'T BECAUSE HE LIKE I ARE BOTH 4 REENTRY STUDENTS. SO WE ARE VERY GLAD THAT WE HAVE A 5 PLACE TO LAND IN CONSIDERING THE LAST COUPLE OF ITEMS YOU 6 HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING. IT'S CRUCIAL THAT WE KEEP CITY 7 COLLEGE FOR STUDENTS THAT NEED TO COME BACK AND HANDLE 8 SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS. 9 SO CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR FUTURE 10 ENDEAVORS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ATTILA GABOR. 12 MR. GABOR: MY NAME IS ATTILA GABOR. 13 AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK JEFF FOR THIS WORK. 14 I WORKED WITH HIM AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE CLASSIFIED 15 SENATE. IT WAS A GREAT ADVENTURE WORKING WITH JEFF. WE 16 SOMETIMES HAD OPPOSING VIEWS, BUT IT WAS REALLY GREAT 17 BECAUSE DESPITE HIS YOUNG AGE AND BEING A STUDENT, HE 18 UNDERSTOOD THAT WE CAN DIFFER ON IDEAS, YET WE CAN GROW BY 19 CONVERSING ON DIFFERING IDEAS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE 20 WORKING WITH YOU, JEFF, AND I AM GOING TO MISS YOU. THANK 21 YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: JOE FITZGERALD. 23 MR. FITZGERALD: HI, JOE FITZGERALD, STUDENT FOR 24 MAYBE TOO LONG. 25 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IN MY TIME WORKING AT MAY 24, 2012 171 1 THE GUARDSMAN, EVERYWHERE I GO REPORT, THERE'S JEFFREY 2 FANG. I GO TO A DIFFERENT CAMPUS, THERE'S JEFFREY FANG. 3 I GO TO A BOARD MEETING OF SOME SORT, THERE'S JEFFREY 4 FANG. AND I START TO WONDER WHEN DOES JEFFREY FANG 5 ACTUALLY HAVE A LIFE. 6 AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK JEFFREY FANG FOR 7 BEING A STUDENT TRUSTEE WHO IS THERE AT JUST ABOUT EVERY 8 STUDENT EVENT I CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF, A RESOURCE FOR ALL 9 MY REPORTERS TO GO TO MAKE COVERING THE BOARD AND THE 10 BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND SCHOOL POLITICS MORE ACCESSIBLE. 11 NOT ONLY HAS HE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US 12 NAVIGATE THIS WEIRD BYZANTINE STRANGE SYSTEM, BUT AT THE 13 SAME TIME HE TAUGHT SOME OF MY OWN REPORTERS JUST HOW TO 14 ENGAGE IN POLITICS AND HOW TO COVER POLITICS, AND THAT WAS 15 NO SMALL PART THANKS TO JEFFREY FANG. 16 SO THANK YOU, JEFFREY, AND MUCH LUCK TO YOU. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 WHY DON'T YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND -- 19 MS. MORIWAKI: THANK YOU. KITTY MORIWAKI, 20 ACADEMIC SENATE, ESL, AND MATRICULATION. 21 I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE HOW IMPRESSED I AM BY 22 THIS YOUNG MAN. YOU REALLY ARE TIRELESS. AND I AM SURE 23 THAT YOU MADE APPEARANCES BECAUSE YOU CARED AT EVERY 24 GATHERING OF VARIOUS CONSTITUENCIES. 25 BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU IN PARTICULAR FOR MAY 24, 2012 172 1 CERTAINLY RISING TO THE OCCASION AND ADDRESSING A COUPLE 2 OF THE NISEI HONORARY DEGREE CEREMONIES WE HAD. I DIDN'T 3 GIVE YOU ANY WARNING AT ONE POINT, I JUST SAID, AND NOW 4 OUR STUDENT TRUSTEE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. YOU 5 WERE VERY ELOQUENT AS USUAL. SO THANKS FOR ALWAYS JUST 6 BEING ALERT AND BEING RIGHT THERE FOR EVERYONE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 9 OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 10 TRUSTEES. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, PLEASE, TRUSTEE BERG. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANTED -- I JUST WANT TO 14 REAFFIRM EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT. JEFFREY HAS 15 BEEN A MAGNIFICENT ADDITION TO THIS BOARD. YOU KEEP US 16 SANE. YOU KEEP US ON TRACK. AND YOU LET US KNOW WHAT THE 17 STUDENTS REALLY NEED AND WANT. AND THAT'S REALLY 18 IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE COMING FROM DIFFERENT 19 STAGES IN LIFE. AND IT'S WONDERFUL. WE ARE JUST SO 20 PLEASED TO HAVE YOU. WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU. AND I 21 HOPE YOU WILL BE AROUND TO -- IF THERE IS A REPLACEMENT 22 FOR YOU, YOU WILL BE AROUND TO HELP THAT PERSON SETTLE IN 23 BECAUSE YOU'VE JUST BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL, AND WE WANT YOU 24 TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. 25 THANK YOU. AND GOOD LUCK. MAY 24, 2012 173 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: JEFFREY, IF I HAD A SON, I WOULD 3 WANT HIM TO BE EXACTLY LIKE YOU. SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE 4 POLITICIAN. 5 YOU KNOW, JEFFREY I'VE BEEN SITTING NEXT TO 6 JEFFREY FOR TWO YEARS NOW. AND WHAT I AM GOING TO BE 7 LOSING IS AN ADVISOR. I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR 18 8 YEARS. AND THIS YOUNG MAN -- IT'S NOT TRUE WHAT THEY SAY 9 THAT AS YOU GROW OLDER YOU GAIN WISDOM BECAUSE SOMETIMES 10 YOU ARE WISE BEYOND YOUR YEARS AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS 11 JEFFREY FANG. 12 AND, JEFFREY, THROUGH YOUR EXAMPLE, YOU -- AND 13 I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE TO YOU IN THE PAST IS THAT SOMETIMES 14 WHEN WE AS TRUSTEES GET A LITTLE HEATED AND, OF COURSE, 15 VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL AND SO FORTH, HE 16 REMINDS US AND IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF COLLEGIALITY. 17 AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT. YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN HERE 18 THOSE TWO YEARS. 19 AND, JEFFREY, YOU ARE AN INSPIRATION. I DON'T 20 HAVE ANY FEARS FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR MOVEMENT BECAUSE WITH 21 PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF, I THINK WE ARE REALLY IN GOOD SHAPE. 22 AND SO, JEFFREY, I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YES, I HAVE TO ASK 23 WHERE ARE WE ON THE AGENDA, JEFFREY? 24 AND HE WAS ALWAYS ON TOP, ALWAYS ON TOP. AND I 25 ADMIRE HIM FOR THAT. AFTER 18 YEARS ON THE BOARD, MAY 24, 2012 174 1 SOMETIMES YOU SAY, OKAY, LET'S GET ON WITH THIS. I AM NOT 2 GOING TO SAY ANYTHING THAT'S SACRILEGIOUS. 3 BUT, JEFFREY, YOU HAVE BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO 4 ME. I THINK TO MANY OF US. AND ESPECIALLY, IN REGARDS TO 5 YOUR COLLEGIALITY. THANK YOU SO VERY, VERY MUCH. WE ARE 6 GOING TO MISS YOU. AND KEEP UP FIGHTING FOR THE CAUSE. 7 THANK YOU. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: JEFFREY, I'D LIKE TO JUST 10 COMMEND ON YOUR GOOD WORK FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS YOUR 11 LEADERSHIP AND YOUR ADVOCACY FOR STUDENTS. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND, JEFFREY, YOU KNOW, I 14 WOULD LIKE TO JUST THANK YOU. YOU'VE DONE A LOT, 15 ESPECIALLY STATEWIDE. I THINK THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, IT'S 16 REALLY HARD TO HAVE AN IMPACT AS A COMMUNITY COLLEGE 17 STUDENT. 18 YOU KNOW, BEING A FORMER STUDENT LEADER MYSELF 19 AND HAVING MORE OF A LUXURY OF BEING IN CSU, YOU KNOW, 20 BASICALLY GROUNDING STUFF UP STATEWIDE FROM A SYSTEM 21 THAT'S VERY DECENTRALIZED. IT HAS A VERY DETACHED STUDENT 22 BODY AND HELPING ORGANIZE THEM AND HAVING A VOICE, YOU 23 KNOW, AROUND POLICIES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT STUDENTS. 24 YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, WILL BE YOUR 25 GREATEST LEGACY HERE AT CITY COLLEGE IN TERMS OF BUILDING MAY 24, 2012 175 1 A STATEWIDE MODEL FOR OTHER TRUSTEES TO KIND OF JUST PLUG 2 INTO. 3 WE DIDN'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK WE 4 ALL AGREED, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN 5 BEST BE A STATEWIDE VOICE FOR STUDENTS. AND FOR THAT, I 6 REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND WISH YOU THE BEST OF 7 LUCK IN ANY OF YOUR ENDEAVORS. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: JEFFREY, I AM SORRY TO SEE YOU GO. 10 YOU KNOW, WE'VE BUTTED HEADS A COUPLE TIMES. AND I THINK 11 YOU MORE SO ELOQUENTLY THAN MYSELF AS TRUSTEE WONG HAS 12 NOTED. 13 BUT WHAT I THINK IS CLEAR IS THAT YOU REALLY 14 BELIEVE YOUR POSITIONS. AND I RESPECT IT ALWAYS, EVEN 15 THOUGH I DISAGREE WITH IT SOMETIMES. 16 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE -- WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON TWO 17 YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T THINK I WAS ONE OF THE 18 FIRST TRUSTEES YOU TALKED TO, BUT THE ADVICE I GAVE YOU 19 WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF LEADER 20 YOU WANT TO BE ON THIS BOARD. AND BECAUSE THIS IS -- YOU 21 KNOW, AS A STUDENT YOU SHOULD OBVIOUSLY FOCUS ON YOUR 22 SCHOOL WORK, BUT IN THIS EXPERIENCE, YOU SHOULD LEARN 23 ABOUT POLITICS, ABOUT DEMOCRACY, ABOUT GOVERNMENT, ABOUT 24 POLICY MAKING, ABOUT INTEREST GROUPS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO 25 BE TESTED A LOT. MAY 24, 2012 176 1 AND THE ONE THING I SAID TO YOU WAS JUST TRY TO 2 SEE THIS AS A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE TO SEE WHAT KIND 3 OF LEADER YOU WANT TO BE. AND I THINK IT IS CLEAR TO ME 4 THAT YOU'VE LEARNED A LOT AND GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THE 5 BETTER SINCE YOU CAME ON. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL 6 ABOUT REALLY. 7 I THINK YOUR VOICE HAS BEEN UNIQUE AND HAS 8 CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEBATE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD WHETHER 9 IT'S ON STUDENT STUFF OR AUDITS. AND I'VE ALWAYS 10 APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENTS ON PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE AND 11 HOW WE SHOULD RUN THINGS. AND THAT'S REALLY -- I REALLY 12 HAVE REALLY APPRECIATED ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 13 I HOPE YOU STILL WANT TO BECOME A LAWYER BECAUSE 14 I THINK THAT YOU ARE VERY INTELLIGENT AND LOGICAL. AND 15 YOU PRESENT GOOD ARGUMENTS ALL THE TIME. SO I WISH YOU 16 WELL. AND PLEASE DON'T BE A STRANGER, NOT JUST TO ME, 17 OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE ENTIRE BOARD AND THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T KNOW IF THE WORLD 19 NEEDS ANY MORE LAWYERS, BUT I AM SURE YOU MEANT THAT IN A 20 GOOD WAY. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: MAYBE HE'LL CHANGE HIS MIND. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, I AM ALSO GOING TO MISS 23 JEFFREY ON THIS BOARD. HE'S -- IN MY TIME HERE, HE'S BEEN 24 THE MOST ACTIVE STUDENT TRUSTEE IN MY TIME HERE. AND HE'S 25 ENGAGED IN OUR MEETINGS. HE COMES TO OUR SPECIAL MAY 24, 2012 177 1 MEETINGS. HE COMES TO OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND SERVES 2 WELL AND HAS GIVEN GREAT INPUT. HE REPRESENTS THE 3 STUDENTS. AND HE'S ALL OVER THE STATE. HE'S CONSTANTLY 4 IN SACRAMENTO. HE'S CONSTANTLY TALKING TO THE OTHER 5 COMMUNITY STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS AT THE OTHER COMMUNITY 6 COLLEGES. I MEAN IF I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU 7 KNOW, I JUST GO TO JEFFREY AND HE TELLS ME WHAT'S GOING 8 ON. 9 AND SO I THINK THAT HE'S BEEN A GREAT ASSET FOR 10 US. HE'S UP THERE, YOU KNOW, WORKING FOR OUR -- WORKING 11 FOR US WHEN HE'S DOING THESE STATEWIDE ACTIVITIES. AND 12 HE'S HELPING US, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 13 AND I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IN THE FUTURE. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU. 15 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: LET'S SEE YOU TRY TO 16 PASS YOUR MOTION AFTER ALL THAT GOOD WORK. YOU ARE 17 EMBARRASSING HIM. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I AM SORRY FOR KEEPING 19 EVERYONE HERE SO MUCH LONGER, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE 20 COMMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BUT FOR THE RECORD, I WILL 21 ABSTAIN FROM THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. 22 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THAT'S GOOD. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I THINK WE ARE READY TO 24 VOTE. 25 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MAY 24, 2012 178 1 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 5 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): (ABSTAINED.) 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 10 IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. 11 AND JUST TO NOTE THIS IS JEFFREY FANG'S LAST 12 MEETING. 13 IS THAT CORRECT? 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: YES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL 17 MEETING. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK 19 THERE THEN. WE EXPECT YOU THERE. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YEAH. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WE ARE UP TO S5. 22 COUNSEL DICKEY: S5 IS ENTITLED, "AUTHORIZATION 23 TO JOIN THE ASCIP COOPERATIVE INSURANCE PROGRAM AND THE 24 SELF JOINT POWERS AUTHORITIES FOR PURPOSES OF OBTAINING 25 PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE COVERAGE EFFECTIVE JULY MAY 24, 2012 179 1 1ST, 2012. ESTIMATED COST NOT TO EXCEED $950,000 FOR 2 FISCAL YEAR 2012-2013." 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 4 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER; 7 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 8 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 9 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 13 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 21 OKAY, S5 IS APPROVED, WHICH TAKES US TO THE 22 BOARD OF TRUSTEES' REPORTS. 23 WHY DON'T WE START ON THIS END. 24 TRUSTEE NGO, ANYTHING TO REPORT? 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD LOVE TO BE A STUDENT MAY 24, 2012 180 1 TRUSTEE. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IN TERMS OF MY REPORT, I JUST 6 KIND OF WANT TO REPORT ON -- IN THE GRADUATION I WANTED TO 7 THANK JANE SNEED, FRED CHAVERIA, AND KOVAK WILLIAMSON FOR 8 INVITING ME TO BE A PART OF THE HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA 9 GRADUATION. IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL. IT WAS -- YOU KNOW, 10 I MADE NO SECRET ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF 11 STUDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I GOT ON THIS BOARD TO 12 REALLY REPRESENT AND REALLY ADVOCATE FOR. 13 I AM SURE ALL THE OTHER TYPES OF STUDENTS, YOU 14 KNOW, I DEFINITELY ADVOCATE FOR THEM, BUT THOSE ARE 15 STUDENTS WHO NEED A SPECIAL TYPE OF ADVOCACY AND IT WAS 16 REALLY GOOD. 17 I WAS REALLY AMAZED BY THE FACT THAT THEY WERE 18 VERY PROUD OF THEMSELVES, BUT THEIR PARENTS, THEIR FAMILY 19 WERE EVEN PROUDER OF THOSE STUDENTS. YOU KNOW, IT REALLY 20 KIND OF SHOWED A CROSS-SECTION OF WHAT CITY COLLEGE SHOULD 21 LOOK LIKE, SHOULD BE AND, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF GATEWAY 22 THAT SOME OF THOSE CLASSES CAN BE, LIKE, ALL THOSE 23 STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I ASK HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS ARE 24 GOING TO TAKE CLASSES, CREDIT CLASSES IN THE FALL, ALL OF 25 THEM RAISED THEIR HANDS. IT WAS REALLY A BEAUTIFUL MAY 24, 2012 181 1 CEREMONY. 2 IT'S REALLY AMAZING, YOU KNOW, TO SEE THOSE 3 STUDENTS WHO STRUGGLED WHO OBVIOUSLY DROPPED OUT OF THE 4 K-12 SYSTEM AND SEEING US BE THAT SAFETY NET THAT I'VE 5 ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT. SEEING US BE THAT SAFETY NET TO PICK 6 THOSE STUDENTS UP AND TO GIVE THEM THEIR DIPLOMA WHICH 7 OPENS EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM AND THEN TO SEE 8 THAT BE A GATEWAY SO THEY CAN TAKE OUR CREDIT CLASSES 9 WHICH WILL OFFER -- OPEN UP EVEN MORE EMPLOYMENT AND 10 PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, 11 IT WAS REALLY AMAZING. 12 I SAW SOME STUDENTS THAT I ACTUALLY NEW FROM THE 13 NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, HEY, MAN, I DIDN'T 14 KNOW YOU WERE TAKING CLASSES. BUT THEY REALLY DID. 15 AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK FOLKS FOR INVITING 16 ME FOR -- YOU KNOW, HAVING ME SPEAK. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR 17 DOING THE WORK THAT THEY DO TO REALLY BUILD UP THOSE 18 STUDENTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE MOST CHALLENGING STUDENTS 19 TO REALLY REACH AND MOST CHALLENGING STUDENTS TO REALLY 20 BRING IN AND SO THAT WAS REALLY ONE OF THOSE EXPERIENCES 21 THAT IF I AM NEVER AGAIN THAT I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER 22 REALLY GETTING A CHANCE TO BE PART OF THAT GRADUATION AND 23 SOMETHING I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER, SO THANK YOU. AND THAT 24 CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. MAY 24, 2012 182 1 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: BECAUSE OF THE LATENESS 3 OF THE HOUR, I HAVE NO REPORT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, I HAVE NO REPORT EITHER OTHER 8 THAN TO SAY I HOPE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO ATTEND THE 9 GRADUATION -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YES. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: -- ON SATURDAY MORNING BECAUSE 12 IT'S A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL, EVENT. IT'S A HIGHLIGHT AT 13 CITY COLLEGE. IT'S JUST WONDERFUL, SO I HOPE TO SEE ALL 14 OF YOU THERE SATURDAY MORNING. 15 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I WILL BE THERE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: SINCE NOBODY ELSE OR NO OTHER 18 TRUSTEES ARE SPEAKING AT LENGTH, I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR 19 TIME. THE TIME HAS BEEN EXCEEDED TO LAWRENCE. 20 FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS TO ASIAN COALITION 21 FOR A GREAT SCHOLARSHIP EVENT. THERE WERE ABOUT 300 22 PEOPLE THERE. TRUSTEE BERG AND TRUSTEE GRIER WERE WITH 23 ME. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TWO CO-CHAIRS LISA ROMANO AND 24 MONIKA LIU. IT'S ALWAYS AN INSPIRATIONAL SCHOLARSHIP 25 EVENT. MAY 24, 2012 183 1 LET'S SEE, MAY 12TH, I ATTENDED THE -- WHAT IS 2 IT I AM SEEING HERE. THERE WAS A LAUNCH PARTY FOR THE -- 3 ACTUALLY IT WAS THE LGBT FUNDRAISER. WE HAD A STUDENT 4 ACTUALLY. A STUDENT, AN OLDER STUDENT, WHO DONATED 5 $11,000 I BELIEVE TO THE LGBT PROGRAM. AND HE WANTED US 6 TO MATCH IT. SO THE LGBT STUDIES DEPARTMENT HAD THIS 7 FUNDRAISER. AND THANKS TO JENNIFER WORELY, WHO HAD IT AT 8 HER HOUSE, IT WAS A GREAT BARBEQUE. INCREDIBLE. SO IT 9 WAS VERY, VERY NICE. 10 OH, ALSO MAY 5TH, SEE ALL THESE EVENTS I AM 11 GOING TO CHRONICLE. MAY 5TH, I DID GO TO THE LAUNCH PARTY 12 FOR THE FASHION SHOW THANKS TO MY FRIENDS LARRY HASHBURGER 13 AND ALSO TO GREG LOCKAMY WHO OWNS ASIA SF. IT'S A 14 TRANSGENDER KIND OF BAR. AND IT'S LOTS OF FUN. SO THEY 15 HOSTED THAT FOR CITY COLLEGE. 16 AND THEN ON MAY 20TH, I DID GO TO THE FASHION 17 SHOW. I AM A FASHIONISTA. IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS LOTS OF 18 FUN. I THINK WE HAD WHAT, CLOSE TO A THOUSAND PEOPLE. 19 AND IT WAS A FUNDRAISER FOR THE FASHION DEPARTMENT. EVERY 20 DEPARTMENT NOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, HAS TO RAISE MONEY. 21 THAT'S THE NEW REALITY. 22 AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO DIANE GREEN, THE CHAIR 23 OF THAT DEPARTMENT, AND ALSO NATALIE SMITH WHO HELPED 24 PRODUCE IT AND IS THE FASHION PRODUCTION INSTRUCTOR FOR 25 THAT PROGRAM. MAY 24, 2012 184 1 JEFFREY, AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU. YOU 2 HAVE BEEN A FANTASTIC ADVISOR TO ME. THANK YOU. 3 LET'S SEE, WILL MAYNEZ WAS IN THE CHRONICLE. WE 4 ALL SAW THAT. SO WILL AND, OF COURSE, JULIA BERGMAN 5 REGARDING THE PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE DIEGO 6 RIVERA MURAL WHICH IS A FANTASTIC WORK OF ART. 7 AND FINALLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 8 BUDGET. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT ALL 9 OF US. AND SO MANY OF YOU AND THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS HAVE 10 SACRIFICED, REALLY SO MUCH ALREADY AND WILL CONTINUE TO 11 BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED. 12 I ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW TRUSTEES TO THINK ABOUT 13 AND TO JOIN -- I KNOW, NATALIE, YOU ARE JUST TOO MODEST 14 AND YOU ARE GOING TO HATE ME FOR THIS -- TO JOIN NATALIE 15 AND I IN CONTRIBUTING AT LEAST PART IF NOT ALL OF STIPEND 16 BACK TO CITY COLLEGE. I THINK IT'S SYMBOLIC. IT'S A 17 SMALL AMOUNT, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE ASKING FOR THE SACRIFICE 18 FROM ALL OF YOU THAT YOU ALL THINK ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S 19 ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL MAKE MY REPORT 22 VERY BRIEF. 23 I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR HAVING THAT 24 RESOLUTION ON ME. BUT I BELIEVE IN THE OFFICE OF STUDENT 25 TRUSTEE THE WORK THAT CONTINUES. SO AS WAS MENTIONED, I MAY 24, 2012 185 1 ALREADY PROMISED THAT THE NEXT STUDENT TRUSTEE I WILL BE 2 MAKING -- I ARCHIVE EVERYTHING I CAN GET MY HANDS ON, SO 3 ANY MEETINGS AND INFORMATION I HAVE MOUNTAINS OF PAPERS ON 4 THAT. 5 SO I AM CATALOGING IT AND I AM GOING TO WALK 6 THROUGH IT WITH WILL. AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT 7 JUST ME WHO WILL DO A GOOD JOB, BUT IT'S WHOEVER TAKES THE 8 OFFICE WILL HAVE THE WEALTH OF INFORMATION TO DO A GOOD 9 JOB FOR THE COLLEGE, FOR THE STUDENTS, AND FOR OUR 10 COLLEAGUES HERE TOO. SO THANK YOU. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: BRAVO. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS AT THE DEDICATION OF A 13 MURAL TODAY AT THE JOHN ADAMS CAMPUS. THIS IS A MURAL 14 THAT WAS DONE BY THE DSPS DEPARTMENT. AND IT WAS DONE BY 15 THE DSPS STUDENTS. IT WAS PUT TOGETHER AS AN ART PROJECT. 16 SEVERAL OF THE STUDENTS ARE ARTISTS AND WERE WORKING AS 17 ARTISTS BEFORE THEIR INJURY OR CONTINUE TO DO SO. AND 18 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MURAL. IT'S UNLIKE ANY MURAL THAT YOU'VE 19 SEEN IN SAN FRANCISCO. IT WAS VERY CREATIVE. THEY RAISED 20 MONEY TO PAY FOR IT. THEY RAISED $3,000 FOR THE SUPPLIES, 21 AND THEY ARE GOING TO PUT A GRAFFITI PROOF COATING ON TOP. 22 THE PROFESSIONS WILL PUT THAT ON. AND IT WAS GREAT. IT'S 23 A GREAT THING. I HOPE YOU CAN ALL SEE IT. 24 THIS IS ALSO GRADUATION WEEK IN SAN FRANCISCO. 25 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GRADUATING. I WAS AT THE FIREFIGHTERS MAY 24, 2012 186 1 FIRE ACADEMY GRADUATION. CITY COLLEGE HOSTS THE FIRE 2 ACADEMY THAT TRAINS OUR SAN FRANCISCO FIREFIGHTERS AND 3 OTHER FIREFIGHTERS. AND THAT IS JUST -- I ALWAYS FIND 4 THAT INSPIRATIONAL. THESE STUDENTS WHO ARE CHOOSING TO GO 5 INTO A CAREER THAT WILL PUT THEIR OWN LIVES ON THE LINE IN 6 ORDER TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE. AND IT'S VERY COMMENDABLE, 7 TRUE PUBLIC SERVANTS IN THE REAL SENSE OF THE WORD. 8 IT'S ALSO A LOT OF SAN FRANCISCO HIGH SCHOOL 9 STUDENTS ARE GRADUATING THIS WEEK OR HAVE GRADUATED THIS 10 WEEK. MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED YESTERDAY. AND THAT WAS A 11 VERY NICE CEREMONY. THERE WERE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS 12 GRADUATING ONE AFTER ANOTHER IN THE BILL GRAHAM AUDITORIUM 13 AND THEY PULLED IT OUT. THEY PULLED IT OFF I SHOULD SAY. 14 AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR CITY COLLEGE 15 GRADUATION ON SATURDAY WHICH IS ALWAYS A GREAT EVENT. AND 16 I AM THERE EVERY YEAR AND TEND TO BE THERE AS WELL. 17 IT'S -- FOR ME, IT'S A BIG REWARD AFTER YEARS OF WORK 18 PERSONALLY TO GET TO WATCH, TO HANDOUT DIPLOMAS, AND TO 19 SEE THE EXPRESSIONS ON THESE SUCCESSFUL STUDENTS FACE. SO 20 I URGE ALL THE TRUSTEES TO ATTEND. I THINK YOU WILL LIKE 21 IT. SO THAT'S MY REPORT. 22 WE NOW HAVE CHANCELLOR, THE CHANCELLOR'S REPORT. 23 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: WELL, I AM KEENLY 24 AWARE THAT A LOT OF YOU ARE GOING TO GET UP EARLY TOMORROW 25 MORNING, SO I AM GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF. MAY 24, 2012 187 1 I JUST WANT TO SAY, AS I SAID WHEN I MET WITH 2 YOU TWO WEEKS AGO AT OUR SPECIAL MEETING, IT'S BEEN A 3 LITTLE LESS THAN FOUR WEEKS NOW THAT I HAVE BEEN WITH YOU. 4 IT FEELS LIKE A LOT, LOT LONGER THAN THAT. 5 BUT I REALLY WANT TO APPLAUD THE PEOPLE WHO ARE 6 HERE AND MANY OF THEM WHO HAVE ALREADY GONE HOME FOR 7 PEOPLE BEING VERY GRACIOUS, VERY OPEN, VERY WELCOMING. WE 8 LOST TRACK. WE STOPPED COUNTING MEETINGS AT 50 SOME 9 YESTERDAY, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BLUR, BUT WE'VE HAD 10 LOTS OF MEETINGS. 11 AND THERE IS THIS PARADOX. THIS IS A HAPPY TIME 12 OF THE YEAR IN ALL COLLEGES BECAUSE OF GRADUATION AND 13 BECAUSE OF THE REMINDERS OF ALL THE GOOD WORK WE DO. AND 14 YOU HAVE, OBVIOUSLY, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS WE HAVE BEEN 15 DEALING WITH SOME VERY, VERY SOBER ISSUES. 16 BUT I HAVE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY OF 17 OUR STAFF, WITH THEIR PASSION, WITH THEIR ENTHUSIASM. AND 18 FRANKLY A LOT OF MEETINGS WHICH I MEAN YOU PEOPLE SAY, 19 WELL, YOU ARE DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY, THAT'S TRUE. BUT 20 WE'VE CHANGED A LOT OF OUR MEETING AND GATHERINGS INTO 21 SESSIONS WHERE WE CAN TAP PEOPLE'S CREATIVITY. AND WE ARE 22 BRAINSTORMING. AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS. 23 AND WE ACTUALLY GOT TO HAVE ONE WONDERFUL 24 MEETING ON DIVERSITY THAT REALLY WASN'T ABOUT THE BUDGET 25 SO THAT WAS NICE. AND IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE MEETING. MAY 24, 2012 188 1 AND IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. AND WE WILL BE 2 DOING MORE WORK ON THAT SUBJECT THIS SUMMER AND GETTING 3 BACK TO YOU ON THAT. 4 SO IT'S BEEN GREAT. I THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR. 5 I SAY, IT'S BEEN GREAT. IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE THE EFFORT 6 THAT PEOPLE ARE PUTTING FORWARD TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. I HAVE 7 BEEN REPEATEDLY SAYING I WOULD LOVE TO BE WITH YOU AND 8 HELP YOU MOVE TO ALL THESE OTHER WONDERFUL THINGS WITHOUT 9 HAVING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET ALL THE TIME. SO MAYBE 10 THAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE I LEAVE, MAYBE NOT. BUT IF NOT, 11 THEN I WILL FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHATEVER LITTLE I COULD DO IN 12 COLLABORATION WITH ALL OF YOU TO BE SURE THAT YOU KEEP 13 DOING ALL THAT GOOD WORK. SO THAT'S MY REPORT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 THAT WAS A PRETTY ACTION-PACKED FOUR WEEKS. 16 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: IT'S BEEN BUSY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COUNSELOR, ARE THERE ANY 18 CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENTS? 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES, THE BOARD MET IN CLOSED 20 SESSION AT 5:00 P.M. TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE MATTERS 21 LISTED ON THE CLOSED SESSION AGENDA. 22 THE BOARD APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE PAST 23 THREE CLOSED SESSIONS AND ALSO APPROVED A SETTLEMENT IN A 24 CLAIM FROM THE CALIFORNIA STATE AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION 25 INVOLVING DAMAGE TO A VEHICLE AS A RESULT OF A DEFECT IN MAY 24, 2012 189 1 DISTRICT PROPERTY IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,700. THAT CONCLUDES 2 MY REPORT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 TRUSTEE BERG. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL BE VERY BRIEF I JUST WANT 6 TO -- I THINK ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US THANK OUR CHANCELLOR 7 WHO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, CAME IN WITH VERY DIFFICULT 8 CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THINGS WERE JUST BLOWING APART, WHO 9 JUST CALMLY TOOK OVER, MADE US ALL FEEL WELCOME, MADE US 10 ALL FEEL SECURE, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY 11 GRATEFUL AND VERY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE 12 HERE. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SPENDING MANY MONTHS WITH 13 YOU. 14 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: (INAUDIBLE). 15 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, I AM TRYING TO MAKE IT 16 DIFFERENT. BUT I REALLY WANT TO -- 17 TRUSTEE WONG: SHE IS LOBBYING YOU. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, I AM. ON TELEVISION I AM 19 LOBBYING YOU. NO, I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU. AND YOU'VE 20 BEEN -- 21 INTERIM CHANCELLOR FISHER: THANK YOU. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: -- REALLY WONDERFUL FOR ALL OF 23 US. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR ITEMS THAT MAY 24, 2012 190 1 ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA? 2 MR. SCOTT: REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE 3 HEALTH OF CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN AND MILTON MARKS. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO WE HAVE -- I COULD TALK 5 ABOUT TRUSTEES MARKS. 6 SUNNY, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON CHANCELLOR 7 GRIFFIN? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. 8 MS. CLARK: DR. GRIFFIN, AS YOU KNOW, IS AT HOME 9 RECOVERING. HE'S FRUSTRATED THAT HE'S NOT OFF RUNNING AND 10 DOING HIS UNUSUAL THINGS, BUT HE WILL TAKE SOME TIME. AND 11 WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT HE WILL HAVE A VERY GOOD 12 RECOVERY. SO THAT'S WHERE HE IS AT. THANK YOU. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SAW TRUSTEE MARKS ABOUT A 16 WEEK AGO IN THE HOSPITAL. HE HAD MOVED FROM THE RECOVERY 17 CENTER TO KIND OF A REHABILITATION CENTER. HE WAS DOING 18 PRETTY WELL AT THAT TIME. HE WAS VERY ALERT AND HAVING 19 CONVERSATIONS. HE WAS STILL WEAK. HE WASN'T REALLY 20 WALKING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HOME YET, BUT HE WAS 21 ABOUT TO GO HOME ANY TIME NOW. SO I KNEW HE WOULDN'T BE 22 HERE, BUT I THINK HE'S DOING PRETTY WELL. THANK YOU FOR 23 ASKING. 24 OKAY, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE 25 WILL ADJOURN. MAY 24, 2012 191 1 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:35 P.M.) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MAY 24, 2012 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. DATED: JUNE 22, 2012 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 STATE OF CALIFORNIA