SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, MARCH 22, 2012 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO OCEAN AVENUE CAMPUS 50 PHELAN AVENUE SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 DR. NATATLIE BERG 7 DR. ANITA GRIER 8 CHRIS JACKSON 9 MILTON MARKS III 10 STEVE NGO 11 JOHN RIZZO 12 LAWRENCE WONG 13 14 15 DR. DON Q. GRIFFIN, CHANCELLOR 16 SCOTT DICKEY, LEGAL COUNSEL 17 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 22, 2012 3 1 2 3 INDEX 4 5 PAGE 6 REGULAR BOARD OF TRUSTEES' MEETING 5, 97 7 BOARD OF TRUSTEES' AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING 85 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 22, 2012 4 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, MARCH 22, 2 2012, COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 6:59 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY 3 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, 50 PHELAN AVENUE, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD: 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 22, 2012 5 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF 2 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF CITY COLLEGE. 3 CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A ROLL CALL. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PRESIDENT JOHN RIZZO. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: VICE PRESIDENT ANITA GRIER. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: HERE. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. NATALIE BERG. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: HERE. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: CHRIS JACKSON. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HERE. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: MILTON MARKS. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: HERE. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STEVE NGO. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: LAWRENCE WONG. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: HERE. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY 19 FANG. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: HERE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 CAN WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 23 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAVE A QUESTION. MARCH 22, 2012 6 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OF COURSE. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: THIS IS THE EXACT SAME 3 (INAUDIBLE) OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THE AGENDA SAYS 4 BOTH. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I SEE IT. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY, BUT IT SHOULD BE A REGULAR 9 MEETING. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THE MICROPHONES ON? 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: NO. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THEY ARE NOW. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 15 WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS TO MAKE A PLANE, A PLANE 16 FLIGHT. SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS TAKE ONE ITEM FIRST 17 BEFORE WE START, AND THAT'S THE CHANCELLOR'S REPORT. AND 18 I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE CHANCELLOR TO TAKE IT AWAY. 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY, YES, CAN YOU JUST 20 WAIT JUST 10, 15 MINUTES AND WE WILL BE READY FOR YOU, 21 MS. JACKSON. 22 MS. JACKSON: THE PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE PUBLIC 23 COMMENT BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER MEETING. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I KNOW, BUT -- 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS MARCH 22, 2012 7 1 TO CATCH A PLANE, SO WE HAVE TO DO THIS FIRST. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY, SO I WANT TO THANK 3 ALL OF YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT IN TERMS OF MY 4 CHANCELLOR'S REPORT. 5 AS YOU ALL KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO I DID INFORM 6 EVERYONE THAT I WOULD BE LEAVING THE DISTRICT. ACTUALLY, 7 RETIRING FROM THE DISTRICT IN A FEW MONTHS. AND THAT TIME 8 IS COMING QUICKER AND QUICKER. BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO 9 ACHIEVE IT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BEGIN THE 10 CHANCELLOR'S SEARCH. 11 AND I AM JUST REALLY PLEASED TONIGHT TO SAY THAT 12 WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE 13 DR. PRESTON PULLIAMS, WHO REPRESENTS GOLD HILL AND 14 ASSOCIATES. THAT'S THE GROUP THAT THE BOARD HAS SELECTED 15 TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE CHANCELLOR'S SEARCH. 16 AND SO WITHOUT TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT HIM OR 17 WHAT HE DOES, I WOULD LIKE FOR DR. PULLIAMS TO COME UP AND 18 PERHAPS GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INTRO AND SOME IDEAS ABOUT 19 WHAT WE'RE UP -- WHERE WE ARE AT AT THIS MOMENT. 20 DR. PULLIAMS: ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, 21 EVERYONE, TO THE CHANCELLOR, TO THE CHAIR, AND THE BOARD 22 MEMBERS, AND ALL THOSE PRESENT. 23 LET ME SAY FIRST OF ALL, GOLD HILL, WE ARE VERY 24 PROUD TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED BY THE COLLEGE TO DO THE 25 SEARCH FOR YOUR NEW CHANCELLOR. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF MARCH 22, 2012 8 1 GOLD HILL ASSOCIATES. BUT MY PARTNER AND THE FOUNDER OF 2 THE COMPANY, DR. BOB BARRINGER, WHO WORKS OUT OF THE EAST 3 COST OFFICE, WILL WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH ME IN THIS 4 PROCESS. WE BOTH, BETWEEN US, HAVE ABOUT 102 SEARCHES 5 UNDER OUR BELT. ALL OF THOSE FOCUSSING ON COMMUNITY 6 COLLEGE PRESIDENCIES. WE SPECIAL IN THIS AREA AND DO 7 SEARCHES FOR NO OTHER SECTOR. 8 MY EXPERIENCE COMES FROM WORKING CLOSELY WITH 9 DR. BARRINGER AND ALSO IN MY ROLE AS FORMER VICE 10 CHANCELLOR FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES FOR THE STATE UNIVERSITY 11 OF NEW YORK WHERE I HEADED SEARCHES FOR 29 COLLEGES. 12 IN THIS PROCESS OUR FIRM FOCUSES ON CREATING A 13 CHARACTERISTIC SEARCH PROCESS THAT FEATURES AN OPEN 14 PROCESS, WHICH MEANS THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF 15 WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AND 16 WHO IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT, AND THAT WILL BE ALL 17 OUT IN THE PUBLIC. 18 WE ALSO BELIEVE IN A VERY INCLUSIVE SEARCH. 19 THAT MEANS THAT THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR 20 FACULTY, STAFF, AND THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 21 PROCESS. ALSO WE WORK TO BE VERY COST EFFECTIVE IN TERMS 22 OF REALIZING TOUGH TIMES IN TERMS OF MOST COLLEGES ACROSS 23 THE COUNTRY ARE FACING BUDGET CUTS, AND SO WE WORK TO KEEP 24 OUR COSTS DOWN. 25 AND FINALLY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS MARCH 22, 2012 9 1 DEFINITELY A BOARD DRIVEN PROCESS IN TERMS OF THEIR ROLE 2 TO FILL THE CHANCELLOR'S POSITION. 3 IF YOU WILL, I WILL JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 4 HOW WE TRY TO REACH THOSE GOALS IN A SEARCH PROCESS. 5 FIRST OF ALL, WE RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF 6 DIRECTORS TO HAVE AN INCLUSIVE SEARCH. THE KEY TO THAT IS 7 TO HAVE ESTABLISHED AN ADVISORY SEARCH COMMITTEE. THAT 8 COMMITTEE SHOULD BE POPULATED, REPRESENT CONSTITUENCIES 9 ACROSS THE COLLEGE ITSELF AND ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. THIS 10 COMMITTEE WILL HAVE ADVISORY RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF 11 ADVISING THE BOARD ABOUT THE PROFILE, THE QUALIFICATIONS 12 OF THE NEW CHANCELLOR, ALSO ABOUT THE SCHEDULE FOR THE 13 SEARCH. 14 THE OTHER RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ADVISORY 15 COMMITTEE WILL BE TO READ ALL APPLICATIONS OF THOSE WHO 16 WILL APPLY AND TO ALSO WORK WITH ME AS A CONSULTANT AND 17 ALSO THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO MAKE 18 RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE 19 CONSIDERED AS A FINALIST IN THIS PROCESS. 20 IN TERMS OF TIMING, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE TIMING 21 FOR A SUCCESSFUL SEARCH IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FOUR TO SIX 22 MONTHS. IF YOU TAKE TOO SHORT A PERIOD, THAT DOES NOT 23 WORK TO YOUR ADVANTAGE TO RECRUIT TOP CANDIDATES. AND IF 24 YOU GO TOO LONG, YOU WILL LOSE TOP CANDIDATES BECAUSE THEY 25 GO FIND JOBS IN OTHER PLACES, SO WE WILL WORK WITH THE MARCH 22, 2012 10 1 SEARCH COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING A 2 CALENDAR. 3 IN TERMS OF SEQUENCE OF THE EVENTS, WHAT HAPPENS 4 THE SEARCH COMMITTEE -- THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL BE 5 APPOINTED, ALONG WITH A SEARCH, A LIAISON PERSON TO WORK 6 WITH THE FIRM TO KEEP INFORMATION OUT BEFORE AND HELP 7 MAKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE 8 ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL ALSO REPRESENT THEIR 9 CONSTITUENCIES AND CERTAINLY AT THE TABLE MAKE THOSE 10 RECOMMENDATIONS KNOWN TO THE BOARD AND CERTAINLY TO ME AS 11 A CONSULTANT. 12 GOLD HILL ASSOCIATES WILL ALSO SPEND TIME -- I 13 PLAN TO WORK WITH THE COLLEGE TO HAVE SEVERAL DAYS IN THE 14 DISTRICT WHERE I WILL HAVE OPEN FORUMS SO I CAN ALSO 15 LISTEN TO WHAT THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY IS SAYING IN TERMS OF 16 THEIR DESIRES ABOUT WHAT THE PROFILE OF A NEW CHANCELLOR 17 AND QUALIFICATIONS ARE. AND I WILL BRING THAT ALL 18 TOGETHER WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF 19 RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD. 20 AFTER A SCHEDULE, A CALENDAR OF EVENTS ARE 21 ESTABLISHED, THE SEARCH WILL OPEN, AND WE WILL WORK VERY 22 HARD TO RECRUIT. I WILL ADMIT THAT WHAT YOU PAY FOR A 23 SEARCH FIRM TO DO IS TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT TOP CANDIDATES. 24 YOU SHOULD ADVERTISE. YOU SHOULD DO ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE 25 AND ROUTINE THINGS. BUT THE TOP CANDIDATES ARE PEOPLE WHO MARCH 22, 2012 11 1 ARE CONTACTED PERSONALLY BY THE FIRM OR OTHERS WHO 2 NOMINATE. AND SO WE WILL WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE 3 ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD REGARDING THAT PROCESS. 4 AFTER THE APPLICATIONS ARE RECEIVED, THE 5 ADVISORY COMMITTEE WILL HAVE ACCESS, ALONG WITH THE BOARD 6 WE RECOMMEND, TO ALL THE APPLICATIONS. THE SEARCH 7 ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHEN THE APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWED, 8 WILL MEET, AND THEN WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO HOPEFULLY 9 REACH A CONSENSUS OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD AS 10 TO WHO THE FINALISTS SHOULD BE. 11 ONCE THOSE FINALISTS ARE RECOMMENDED TO THE 12 BOARD, THE BOARD WILL THEN DECIDE WHO THE FINALISTS ARE IN 13 TERMS OF TAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION. 14 AND AT THAT POINT WE RECOMMEND AN OPEN FORUM INTERVIEW 15 PROCESS. 16 FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU END UP WITH THREE OR FOUR 17 FINALISTS, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE FORUMS THROUGHOUT 18 THE DISTRICT WHERE THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE INTRODUCED TO THE 19 COLLEGE COMMUNITY. AND THROUGHOUT -- THE ENTIRE DISTRICT 20 WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN INTERVIEWING 21 THEM, MEETING THEM, ASKING THEM QUESTIONS, AND INTERACTING 22 WITH THEM ALONG A COURSE WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. 23 AFTER THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETED, A VERY OPEN 24 INTERVIEW PROCESS, THEN INPUT IS RECEIVED BY THE BOARD. 25 AGAIN, RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND MARCH 22, 2012 12 1 OTHERS WHO WOULD ENGAGE AND SO DECIDE TO DO SO, AND THEN 2 THE BOARD WILL ACT AND DO ITS RESPONSIBILITY IN TIMES OF 3 DETERMINE WHO THE NEW CHANCELLOR WOULD BE. 4 THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE WAY AGAIN FOR 5 THE BOARD TO WORK WITH MY FIRM TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS. 6 WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE AT LEAST 50 PERCENT OF THOSE WHO 7 APPLY, WE WILL PROBABLY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THEM JUST IN 8 TERMS OF OUR NETWORK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF 9 OUR PAST SEARCH WORK. AND SO WE WILL SHARE OUR INFORMAL 10 REFERENCE REPORT WITH THE COMMITTEE, THE ADVISORY 11 COMMITTEE, AND ALSO WITH THE BOARD. 12 WHEN THE FINALISTS ARE NAMED, WE WILL DO A VERY 13 EXTENSIVE REFERENCE CHECK ON ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS. WE 14 WORKED AT -- YOU HAVE NO SURPRISES IN TERMS OF THEIR 15 BACKGROUND, IN TERMS OF THEIR CAREERS. AND IF THEY ARE 16 REALLY WHAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING, WE WORK VERY HARD AND 17 WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR RECORD OF DOING THAT WITH LOTS OF 18 DUE DILIGENCE. 19 IN THE END, AGAIN, OUR JOB IS DELIVERED TO YOU, 20 TO WORK WITH YOU AND THE DISTRICT, AND ALL THOSE INVOLVED 21 IN THE SEARCH TO PROVIDE VERY, VERY HIGHLY REGARDED VERY, 22 VERY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT. BUT 23 THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS IN GENERAL. 24 AGAIN, WE ARE VERY PROUD TO BE ASKED TO WORK 25 WITH YOU ON THIS PROCESS. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A MARCH 22, 2012 13 1 SUCCESSFUL SEARCH. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 CAN I ASK YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK THE OPTIMAL SIZE 4 OF AN ADVISORY SEARCH COMMITTEE IS? 5 DR. PULLIAMS: IN TERMS OF OUR EXPERIENCE, IT'S 6 USUALLY AROUND A DOZEN, 12 TO 14 INDIVIDUALS, IN TERMS 7 OF -- OF COURSE, IT'S MADE UP WITH ALL THE CONSTITUENCIES 8 IN SOME WAY REPRESENTED IN THAT GROUP. BUT THAT'S USUALLY 9 THE OPTIMUM SIZE IN WHICH TO WORK WITH IN TERMS OF THIS 10 PROCESS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND YOU RECOMMEND SOME OUTSIDE 12 PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE. 13 DR. PULLIAMS: I DO IN TERMS OF, AGAIN, 14 COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE ALSO PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND KEY 15 PLAYERS IN THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST SOME INPUT 16 INTO THE PROCESS. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 18 QUESTIONS? 19 YES, TRUSTEE WONG. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: I, ACTUALLY AS A FOLLOW-UP TO 21 YOUR QUESTION, IN THE PAST I RECALL THAT EACH TRUSTEE 22 WOULD ALSO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSE 23 COMMUNITIES THAT WE COME FROM, THAT WE REPRESENT. AND 24 RECOGNIZING THAT WE DO HAVE CAMPUSES IN THE DIVERSE 25 COMMUNITIES IN SAN FRANCISCO, AND THAT THEY ARE ALSO MARCH 22, 2012 14 1 STAKEHOLDERS. 2 SO IN TERMS OF POPULATING THIS ADVISORY 3 COMMITTEE, OF COURSE FROM THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO 4 AS YOU'VE MENTIONED FROM THE COMMUNITIES OF SAN FRANCISCO. 5 SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT IN TERMS OF ASKING 6 TRUSTEES FOR RECOMMENDATIONS TO POPULATE THIS ADVISORY 7 COMMITTEE. 8 DR. PULLIAMS: YES, IT SHOULD BE AS DIVERSE AS A 9 COMMUNITY ITSELF AND ALL SUPPORTERS SHOULD BE REPRESENTED. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I SPOKE WITH DR. PULLIAMS 11 EARLIER. AND IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS SIX MONTH -- 12 YOU SAID, "FOUR TO SIX MONTH WAS OPTIMUM." 13 SIX MONTHS PUTS US IN SEPTEMBER. 14 DR. PULLIAMS: YES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT 16 WINDOW WHILE ACCOMMODATING BREAKS AND THINGS, WE SORT OF 17 CAME UP WITH THIS TENTATIVE SCHEDULE. 18 SO THE FIRST -- THE FIRST TASK OF THE BOARD 19 WOULD BE TO APPROVE -- TO APPROVE THE COMMITTEE BASICALLY. 20 IS THAT -- 21 DR. PULLIAMS: THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S THE 22 BOARD'S -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 24 DR. PULLIAMS: -- RESPONSIBILITY TO APPOINT, 25 SELECT, HOWEVER YOU GO ABOUT THAT PROCESS. BUT YOU ARE MARCH 22, 2012 15 1 RESPONSIBLE FOR NAMING THE COMMITTEE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE 3 COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE THEN COMES UP WITH A PROFILE FOR 4 THE CANDIDATE AND -- LET ME GET MY BAG. 5 WE ACTUALLY HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY 6 HERE, BUT WE HAVE THE PROFILE FROM THE LAST CHANCELLOR'S 7 SEARCH. I THOUGHT I HAD IN IT. 8 MS. STARR: I HAVE SOME NOTES. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. THIS IS IT. IT LOOKS 10 LIKE THIS (INDICATING). AND IT'S BASICALLY THE JOB 11 DESCRIPTION. SO THE COMMITTEE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO 12 THE BOARD, AND THEN THE BOARD APPROVES THAT. 13 AFTER THAT, A JOB ANNOUNCEMENT CAN GO OUT; IS 14 THAT RIGHT? 15 DR. PULLIAMS: THAT'S CORRECT. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED 17 WAS -- WHAT I AM PROPOSING, TRUSTEES, IS THAT ON APRIL 4TH 18 THERE'S A BUDGET COMMITTEE. WE COULD HAVE A SPECIAL 19 MEETING THERE TO APPROVE THE COMMITTEE, THE ADVISORY 20 COMMITTEE MAKEUP. 21 APRIL 26TH IS OUR REGULAR BOARD MEETING. THAT 22 WOULD BE THREE WEEKS FOR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO MEET A 23 COUPLE OF TIMES WITH -- 24 DR. PULLIAMS -- 25 DR. PULLIAMS: YES. MARCH 22, 2012 16 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- WOULD YOU BE THERE AS WELL? 2 DR. PULLIAMS: THAT'S CORRECT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND WE COULD APPROVE THE 4 PROFILE JOB DESCRIPTION ON APRIL 26TH. THE JOB 5 DESCRIPTION COULD GO OUT MAY 1ST. AND THEN DURING THE 6 SUMMER, YOU WOULD RECEIVE THE JOB APPLICATIONS. 7 DR. PULLIAMS: CORRECT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THEN WE DO INTERVIEWS WHEN 9 PEOPLE ARE BACK FROM THEIR BREAK. WE WOULD DO THE 10 INTERVIEWS AT THE END OF AUGUST. AND POTENTIALLY BRING 11 SOMEONE ON IN SEPTEMBER. SO THAT WOULD BE OUR SIX-MONTH 12 TIME PERIOD, WHICH DR. PULLIAMS' RECOMMENDS IS A MAXIMUM. 13 IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING MAJOR DURING SUMMER. 14 DR. PULLIAMS: SURE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT KIND OF BOOKENDS THE 16 SUMMER. SO THAT'S WHAT I AM PROPOSING. AND, OF COURSE, 17 WE KNOW THAT DR. GRIFFIN WOULD LIKE TO BE OUT OF HERE BY 18 THEN. I THINK HE IS GRACIOUS STAYING LONGER THAN HE HAD 19 ASKED TO LEAVE, BUT I THINK HE WILL AGREE TO STAY UNTIL 20 THEN. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: CERTAINLY TO AUGUST. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TO AUGUST, OKAY. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SEPTEMBER PROVIDED WE ARE 24 MAKING PROGRESS. 25 DR. PULLIAMS: EXACTLY. MARCH 22, 2012 17 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 2 DR. PULLIAMS: YEAH. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO ON THE COMMITTEE TO GET TO 4 THE 12 OR 14 COMMITTEE -- 12 OR 14, OPTIMAL SIZE 14 AND 5 INCLUDE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 6 THIS IS WHAT I PROPOSE: 7 A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ACADEMIC SENATE, A 8 REPRESENTATIVE FROM AFT 2121, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE 9 CLASSIFIED SENATE, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM SEIU, A 10 REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, A REPRESENTATIVE 11 FROM THE DEPARTMENT CHAIRS COUNCIL, THE STUDENT TRUSTEE, A 12 STUDENT FROM -- I GUESS CHOSEN BY THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT 13 STRUCTURE -- THREE TRUSTEES, AND THEN TWO COMMUNITY 14 MEMBERS. SO THAT WOULD BE 14, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE 15 MAXIMUM SIZE THAT IS RECOMMENDED. 16 SO MY QUESTION IS: UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, CAN 17 THESE GROUPS GET RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHO THEY WANT TO BE 18 ON THE COMMITTEE BY APRIL 4TH, IF WE MEET -- 19 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT RIZZO, DID YOU SAY TWO 20 COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I 22 TALKED TO DR. PULLIAMS TODAY. HE RECOMMENDED THIS. 23 THAT'S FAIRLY STANDARD. SO IT COULD BE -- 24 TRUSTEE WONG: IT HAS TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO 25 COMMUNITY MEMBERS. MARCH 22, 2012 18 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, IT'S JUST THAT -- 2 TRUSTEE WONG: (INAUDIBLE). 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE WOULD -- 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: WE'VE HAD THREE BEFORE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE WERE TALKING -- 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE LAST THING THAT WHEN 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN WAS SELECTED, WE HAD THREE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, BUT BEFORE THAT WE HAD TEN. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I -- 10 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU SHOULD ADD, YOU KNOW, ONE OR 11 TWO MORE JUST SO THAT (INAUDIBLE). 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I MEAN DR. PULLIAMS TELLS 13 ME -- 14 AND IF I'M PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, PLEASE 15 JUST LET ME KNOW IF I AM SAYING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT 16 CORRECT. THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER COMMITTEES DON'T WORK 17 AS WELL AND CAN'T -- 18 TRUSTEE WONG: I KNOW. I AM JUST SUGGESTING 19 THERE SHOULD BE MORE OF JUST THE TRUSTEES, JUST TWO. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF ORDER. WE CAN DEBATE 21 THIS ACTUALLY MOVE ON IT AS AN ACTION ITEM ON AMENDMENTS. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON THE 4TH -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: THE NEXT -- 24 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S TRUE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, WHENEVER YOU DECIDE TO HOLD MARCH 22, 2012 19 1 THE MEETING. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S TRUE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, 4 TRUSTEE WONG, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE TIME TO DEBATE 5 THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE. WE SHOULD PROBABLY AGENDIZE 6 IT, GET A ROUGH SKELETON OF WHO IS GOING TO BE ON IT. AND 7 IF WE WANT TO ADD SOME FOLKS, LET'S BE PREPARED TO ADD 8 THEM AT THE MEETING. JUST NOW IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: WE HAVEN'T AGENDIZED HIS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A 12 GOOD THOUGHT, TRUSTEE NGO. 13 SO MY QUESTION REMAINS, CAN THE GROUPS TELL US 14 BY THE 4TH, BY OUR MEETING ON THE 4TH, WHO THEY WANT TO 15 BE -- WHO THEY THINK SHOULD BE ON THERE. 16 IS THAT DOABLE? 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO, FOR THE 18 ONE ADDITIONAL STUDENT MEMBER, THE ASSOCIATED STUDENT 19 EXECUTIVE BOARD WOULD BE THE IDEAL PLACE, BUT WE JUST HAD 20 OUR MEETING TODAY. AND I COULD TRY TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER 21 MEETING, BUT I WILL LET YOU KNOW BY TOMORROW IN THE 22 MEETING BEFORE THE 4TH CAN BE SCHEDULED -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- FOR THAT SELECTION. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IF YOU COULD HAVE AN MARCH 22, 2012 20 1 EMERGENCY MEETING OR SOMETHING. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YEAH, OKAY. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL TRY THAT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PERHAPS, TRUSTEE FANG, SINCE 6 YOU'RE -- YOU WOULD BE ON IT, PERHAPS YOU CAN COORDINATE 7 THAT FOR -- 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: FOR THE STUDENTS -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- US, FOR THE STUDENT REP. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- I WILL TRY. I THINK 11 IT IS POSSIBLE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I UNDERSTAND THERE IS AN 13 ACADEMIC SENATE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 3RD. 14 IS THAT NOT TRUE? 15 MS. SAGINOR: THE 4TH. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, IT'S ON THE 4TH, OH. 17 WELL, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET US A NAME FOR 18 YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBER BY THAT NIGHT? 19 MS. SAGINOR: I WASN'T EXPECTING TO HAVE THIS 20 DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU GO ON THE MICROPHONE 22 SO THAT WE -- 23 MS. SAGINOR: PARDON ME. I WASN'T EXPECTING TO 24 HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING 25 ABOUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. WE COULD PERHAPS TALK OFFLINE MARCH 22, 2012 21 1 IF YOU DIDN'T MIND. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SURE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK 4 YOU. 5 OKAY, IS THERE ANYMORE COMMENT? 6 WE WELCOME COMMENTS. 7 MR. SCHONONT: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH 8 THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO CHARGE FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, FANCY 9 SERVICE? WHAT'S THE TAB? 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE DID -- WE HAD A 11 RESOLUTION LAST MONTH, RIGHT? 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT WAS A RESOLUTION LAST 13 MONTH. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS? 15 NOT TO -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK IT WAS $46,000. 17 MR. SCHONONT: HOW MUCH? 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, NOT TO EXCEED 150. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOT TO EXCEED 150. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT WE VOTED ON THIS SPECIFICALLY, 21 THIS CONTRACT. WE VOTED ON THIS CONTRACT. 22 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH, THIS CONTRACT WAS 23 SUBSEQUENTLY -- 24 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S ALREADY DONE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THE CONTRACT IS ONGOING. MARCH 22, 2012 22 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO? 3 TRUSTEE NGO: YES, WE HAD A -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M PRETTY SURE DID. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING ABOUT IT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DON'T KNOW. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE WILL FIND OUT AND LET 10 YOU KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT INFORMATION. I'M 11 SORRY. 12 MR. SCHONONT: SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE 13 DOING AS FAR AS -- 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, SIR. 15 MR. SCHONONT: -- HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST? 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S RIGHT. BUT WE WILL 17 FIND OUT AND LET YOU KNOW. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S ON THE PUBLIC RECORD. 19 MR. SCHONONT: I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO IT. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ALL RIGHT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY THEN, SO -- 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD JUST ALSO JUST AS A 24 SUGGESTION THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THESE MEETINGS AT SOME OF 25 OUR SATELLITE CAMPUSES AS WELL, SO THEY ARE NOT JUST AT MARCH 22, 2012 23 1 THE OCEAN CAMPUS. SO, LIKE, MAYBE WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW 2 HOW MANY TIMES WE PROPOSED FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO REACH 3 OUT, THIS SEARCH COMMITTEE MEETS, BUT AT LEAST HAVE ONE OF 4 THE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, AT MISSION CAMPUS, HAVE ONE AT 5 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, AND HAVE ONE IN CHINATOWN CAMPUS, SO IT 6 GIVES THE OTHER -- 7 DR. PULLIAMS: OKAY. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- THE OUTSIDE COMMUNITY THE 9 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT AND SO THAT THEIR 10 VIEWS AND THEIR WANTS AND DESIRES ARE KNOWN AS WELL AND IS 11 ACCESSIBLE FOR THEM AS WELL. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE A PLANE 13 TO CATCH. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN FROM 14 PORTLAND WHERE IT WAS SNOWING I UNDERSTAND -- 15 DR. PULLIAMS: RIGHT. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THIS MORNING. 17 DR. PULLIAMS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 21 MS. STARR: SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 23 MS. STARR: -- IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 24 DIVERSITY REPORT, IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT TIME. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THANK YOU, DEAN STARR. MARCH 22, 2012 24 1 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I JUST CLARIFY -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: -- ON THIS. 4 SO, PRESIDENT RIZZO, ARE YOU GOING TO ASK THAT 5 THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE OR WHOEVER OUR LIAISON IS ON THE 6 CHANCELLOR'S SEARCH TO SEND AN E-MAIL OUT REQUESTING THESE 7 SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS TO BE NOMINATED FOR THIS -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: -- BEFORE THE COMING MEETING, 10 RIGHT, NOT JUST ANNOUNCE IT HERE. WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST 11 LET THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY KNOW. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE WILL FOLLOW UP AND SEND 13 THOSE OUT. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. GREAT. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE WAS TO BE -- THE 16 RECOMMENDATION FROM GOLD HILL WAS TO HAVE A LIAISON 17 DESIGNATED AT THE COLLEGE THAT HE COULD COMMUNICATE WITH. 18 AND SO WE CAN WORK WITH YOU, CHANCELLOR, TO SEE 19 WHO MAY THAT BE. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ALL RIGHT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 22 WE WILL GO BACK TO THE AGENDA. WE WILL GO TO 23 PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND 24 I HAVE SOME CARDS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY MIGHT FALL INTO THAT 25 AREA. MARCH 22, 2012 25 1 SO WE HAVE THINGS ABOUT SAVING CLASSES. I THINK 2 WE COULD TAKE THAT UP DURING THE BUDGET. 3 I HAVE SOMETHING CALLED GOOD NEWS FROM MADELINE 4 MUELLER, I ASSUME, OR WE HAVE MS. JACKSON HERE. 5 MS. JACKSON: YEAH, I WAS THE FIRST ONE HERE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU HAVE TO LEAVE SO. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SHE HAD A CARD, BUT I 8 DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. 9 MS. JACKSON: I PUT IT RIGHT ON HIS -- RIGHT 10 THERE IN FRONT OF HIM. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I WILL LOOK FOR IT. BUT 12 PLEASE, GO AHEAD, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE. 13 MS. JACKSON: I HOPE IT IS NOT OVER BEFORE I GET 14 THERE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, HERE IT IS. 16 MS. JACKSON: ESPANOLA JACKSON, BAYVIEW-HUNTERS 17 POINT. 18 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT TRUSTEE JACKSON 19 HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE WALK-THROUGH FOR THE SOUTHEAST 20 COLLEGE. AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE 21 MADE A REPORT -- 22 MR. JACKSON, I AM SPEAKING. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I AM SORRY, MS. JACKSON. 24 MS. JACKSON: -- SO THAT HE CAN INFORM YOU THE 25 FACT THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN WORKED OUT WITH PUC IN MARCH 22, 2012 26 1 DEALING WITH THE FACT THAT OUR CLASSES WILL BE WHERE WE 2 WANT IT. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THERE AND 3 THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAD ARE COMING BACK TO THE COLLEGE. 4 BUT MY CONCERN IS, AND I WAS INTENDING TO COME 5 TO YOUR MEETING YESTERDAY, YOUR BUDGET AND FINANCE 6 COMMITTEE MEETING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO DISCUSS 7 A RESOLUTION THAT I ASKED TO COME FORWARD TO YOU, THE 8 WHOLE BODY LATER ON. I MENTIONED IT TO TRUSTEE MILTON 9 MARKS. 10 ABOUT A MONTH AGO, BABY, I THINK IT WAS. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: I THINK IT WAS A MONTH AGO. 12 MS. JACKSON: YEAH, A MONTH AGO. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: AND I FOLLOWED UP WITH THE 14 CHANCELLOR. 15 MS. JACKSON: WELL, WHAT I WANT TO DO -- WHAT 16 YOU -- WHAT I WANT YOU ALL TO DO IS FOLLOW UP WITH THE 17 WHOLE BOARD, IS THAT HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, YOUR NEXT 18 BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, FOR A DEAN FOR THE SOUTHEAST 19 COLLEGE, AS WELL AS ONCE THAT COMES BEFORE THE BUDGET AND 20 FINANCE COMMITTEE, THEN IT WILL GO TO YOUR REGULAR MEETING 21 AT THE NEXT MEETING. 22 BECAUSE YOU SEE I HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE 23 NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER FOR A DEAN AT THE SOUTHEAST, AND I 24 THINK IT'S HORRIBLE BECAUSE OF THE FACT I HAVE BEEN DOING 25 YOUR WORK FOR YOU, ALONG WITH THE YOUNG MAN THERE WITH THE MARCH 22, 2012 27 1 PUC FOLK. BECAUSE YOU SEE I HAD TO LET THEM KNOW UNDER 2 THEIR CHARTER, THAT THEY WERE PLACED THERE TO DEAL WITH 3 WATER AND SEWAGE, NOT EDUCATION AND TRAINING. AND THAT 4 THAT IS AN INSTITUTION FOR LEARNING AND NOT FOR AN OFFICE 5 BUILDING. SO ALL OF THAT IS SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. WE 6 DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT ANYMORE. 7 I AM NOT COMING HERE TO ASK YOU FOR ANYTHING 8 OTHER THAN IN YOUR BUDGET -- 9 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 10 MS. JACKSON: -- YOU MAKE SURE THAT SOUTHEAST 11 GETS SOMETHING OUT OF IT EVEN MORE THAN JUST A -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S OUR TIME. 13 MS. JACKSON: -- JUST A DEAN. I'M -- OKAY, SO I 14 JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AT YOUR NEXT BUDGET MEETING, 15 PLEASE, AND THEN THAT WAY IT COULD GO TO YOUR FULL BOARD 16 FOR MY DEAN AT YOUR NEXT FULL BOARD MEETING. THANK YOU 17 VERY MUCH. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND JUST TO NOTE THAT THE 20 BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING WILL BE APRIL 4TH AT 6:00 P.M. 21 MS. JACKSON: WHERE? 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: 33 GOUGH STREET. 23 MS. JACKSON: ALL RIGHT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MADELINE MUELLER HAS SOME 25 GOOD NEWS. I ASSUME THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA WHAT YOU MARCH 22, 2012 28 1 HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. 2 MS. MUELLER: YEAH, NO GOOD NEWS ON THE AGENDA. 3 NO, NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT. 4 MADELINE MUELLER, HELLO TO YOU ALL, CHAIR OF THE 5 MUSIC DEPARTMENT. 6 I'M JUST SITTING IN THE BACK HOPING I AM NOT 7 STEALING TRUSTEE BERG'S GOOD NEWS PERHAPS, BUT TWO WEEKS 8 AGO WHEN I WENT UP TO THE MARCH ON MARCH, I ALSO DROPPED 9 IN ON THE STATE BOARD OF GOVERNORS MEETING TO JUST LISTEN 10 TO REPORTS AND THINGS. 11 AND TWO OF THEM WERE JUST VERY EXCITING TO ME 12 BECAUSE ONE WAS I THINK IT WAS A MR. SKINNER, I'M NOT 13 SURE. I DIDN'T WRITE HIS NAME. A REPORT FROM THE 14 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR THE 1440 TRANSFER DEGREE PROCESS 15 THAT'S IN THE WORKS. AND WE WERE PRAISED, CITY COLLEGE OF 16 SAN FRANCISCO, OF HAVING THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF STUDENTS 17 WHO HAVE MADE IT THROUGH THIS NEW PROCESS. WE WERE ALSO 18 PRAISED BECAUSE OF THE APPROACH WE HAVE GIVEN IT AND SO 19 FORTH. 20 AND THIS -- THERE WERE 27. SO WE LEAD THE 21 STATE. AND THEY SAID, CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO LEADS 22 THE STATE AND STUDENTS WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE TRANSFER 23 DEGREE UNDER THE TERMS OF THE SB 1440. THAT IS VERY GOOD 24 NEWS BECAUSE, AS YOU'VE READ IN THE PAPER, THEY'VE SHUT 25 THE DOORS TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF OUR TRANSFER STUDENTS COMING MARCH 22, 2012 29 1 UP, BUT THEY WILL LET THESE STUDENTS THROUGH. SO THAT'S 2 GOOD NEWS FOR US AND FOR OUR STUDENTS. MOST OF THEM ARE 3 IN PSYCHOLOGY. 4 THE OTHER GOOD NEWS THAT I HEARD FROM 5 MR. HITCHCOCK I BELIEVE -- HANCOCK, WAS FROM THE LITTLE 6 HOOVER COMMISSION REPORT, WHICH IS PRETTY BIG. AND OF THE 7 FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT REPORT, THE LAST WAS THAT 8 THE STATE SHOULD SHIFT ALL ADULT BASIC EDUCATION PROGRAMS 9 AND RELATED FUNDING TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 10 THIS IS NOT IN LINE WITH THE STUDENT SUCCESS 11 TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT MR. HANCOCK MADE A VERY 12 STRONG CASE FOR IT BOTH IN THIS REPORT FROM THE LITTLE 13 HOOVER COMMISSION, WHICH IS RESPECTED AND FAIRLY 14 CONSERVATIVE, BUT HE MADE A VERY STRONG REPORT, AND A VERY 15 LAUDATORY REPORT ABOUT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO AS 16 BEING THE MODEL FOR THE STATE IN THIS AREA. 17 AS I SAY, HE SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES, RIGHT. AND 18 REPEATED THAT WE ARE JUST SOMETHING TO -- FOR THE OTHER 19 COMMUNITY COLLEGES IN THE STATE TO LOOK FORWARD TO. AND 20 HE HOPED THAT THE STATE BOARD OF GOVERNORS WOULD CONSIDER 21 THIS ASPECT AND ADD IT TO THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE. 22 I THINK AS WE HEAD INTO A VERY QUESTION -- WE 23 DON'T KNOW OUR FUTURE EXACTLY, BUT IT WAS -- 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YOUR TIME IS UP. 25 MS. MUELLER: OKAY. MARCH 22, 2012 30 1 TRUSTEE RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 2 MS. MUELLER: I'M SORRY I AM GOING UNTIL I HEAR 3 A BELL. I WILL JUST FINISH. 4 COUNSEL DICKEY: I APOLOGIZE FOR THE BELL 5 TONIGHT. 6 MS. MUELLER: YEAH, GET A BELL. 7 BUT IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT OUTSIDE AGENCIES DO 8 VALUE THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. THAT IS GOOD NEWS. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: DON SANTOS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND DON SANTOS ALSO HAS GOOD 12 NEWS FOR US. 13 MR. SANTOS: HI. MY NAME IS DON SANTOS, AND I 14 COORDINATE THE CERAMICS AREA FOR THE ART DEPARTMENT. 15 AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I DON'T SEE A 16 WHOLE LOT OF STUDENTS HERE. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU SOME 17 STORIES ABOUT SOME STUDENTS. THAT'S ALL I AM HERE FOR. 18 BUT I AM GOING TO BEGIN WITH A COMPLAINT. YOU 19 KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS. 21 MR. SANTOS: YES, IT IS. THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT 22 WE HEAR IN THE ART DEPARTMENT IS THAT THE ART FACULTY 23 DOESN'T GET ENOUGH TIME TO SPEND WITH EACH OTHER, EITHER 24 PROFESSIONALLY, OR SOCIALLY. AND I CHALKED THAT UP, AND I 25 WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE HR DEPARTMENT FOR THE HIRING MARCH 22, 2012 31 1 PROCESS. 2 THE HIRING PROCESS, IF WE ARE DILIGENT, PRODUCES 3 SOME GREAT PEOPLE. AND SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S 4 MY OPINION. AND THAT THE HIRING HERE HAS REALLY SHOWED 5 ITSELF WELL IN THE ART DEPARTMENT. 6 SO I TEACH BEGINNING CERAMICS. I ASSIGN A 7 RESEARCH PAPER TO ALL MY BEGINNING STUDENTS. THIS 8 SEMESTER, TWO STUDENTS ACTUALLY CONTACTED THE ARTICLE -- 9 THE ARTIST THAT THEY WERE RESEARCHING BY E-MAIL AND BY 10 PHONE. AND IT WAS GREAT INITIATIVE. 11 THE BEST STORY TO COME OUT OF THIS THOUGH IS ONE 12 OF MY STUDENTS WHO TURNED IN A PAPER, SHE IS OBVIOUSLY 13 VERY BRIGHT, BUT SHE HAS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY POOR ENGLISH 14 FUNDAMENTALS. I'VE HOOKED HER UP WITH THE ENGLISH WRITING 15 LAB WITH A COLLEAGUE OF MINE IN THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. 16 AND SHE IS NOW, HOPEFULLY, GOING TO TAKE THAT BRIGHT BRAIN 17 OF HERS AND BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE IN A WRITTEN FORM. 18 THIS IS STUFF WE DO DOWN ON THE TRENCHES 19 EVERYDAY. THESE ARE THE SUCCESSES THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO 20 HEAR ABOUT. 21 I AM VERY VERBOSE, SO PLEASE CUT ME OFF WHEN 22 IT'S TIME OR I WILL GO ON FOR THE REST OF THE EVENING. 23 I HAVE A GREAT STUDENT RIGHT NOW WHO HAS BEEN 24 OFFERED SCHOLARSHIPS AND IS NOW GOING TO BE CHOOSING 25 WHETHER TO GO TO RIT, ROCHESTER INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY OR MARCH 22, 2012 32 1 TO -- 2 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 3 COUNSEL DICKEY: TIME'S UP. 4 MR. SANTOS: ANYWAY SHE WORKED DILIGENTLY HERE 5 FOR EIGHT YEARS WITH A DEGREE IN ENGLISH LIT AND HAS BEEN 6 ACCEPTED TO PRESTIGIOUS SCHOOLS IN THE ARTS. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT IS GOOD NEWS. 8 MR. SANTOS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 11 MR. SANTOS: LONG BEACH STATE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE A CARD. I CAN'T REALLY 13 READ JOHNNY -- 14 MR. SCHONONT: YEAH, RIGHT HERE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND IS -- OKAY, AND WHAT'S 16 YOUR TOPIC? 17 YOU SAID, "PUBLIC COMMENT," BUT DIDN'T -- 18 MR. SCHONONT: WELL, THAT WAS THE WAY I WAS 19 INSTRUCTED TO FILL IT OUT THERE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 MR. SCHONONT: I AM EXPENDING MY TIME HERE THIS 22 EVENING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE FACT THAT THE LAW 23 IS BEING BROKEN BY SOME MEMBERS OF YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT 24 TACITLY AND OSTENSIBLY YOUR ADMINISTRATION. 25 I WANT TO EMPHASIZE FROM THE OUTSET THAT THIS IS MARCH 22, 2012 33 1 NOT AN ALLEGATION ON MY PART, BUT RATHER A MATTER OF FACT 2 WHICH I CAN AND WILL BEAR OUT FOR YOU CHRONOLOGICALLY. 3 TWICE I'VE TAKEN THE TIME TO EXPLAIN IN WRITING 4 TO YOUR EMPLOYEE, JASON WENDT, IN TERMS THAT MOST TEN YEAR 5 OLDS COULD COMPREHEND AS TO WHY A PARKING CITATION 6 MERITED -- LACKED MERIT, BUT TO NO AVAIL. 7 BY WAY OF COPIES TO HIS SUPERIORS, THOSE BEING 8 ANDRE BARNES AND DON GRIFFITH -- GRIFFIN, EXCUSE ME. I, 9 AGAIN, TRIED TO DEFUSE THE ERROR TO MITIGATE THE CRIME, 10 STILL NO COMPREHENSION, NO REGISTRATION, NO CORRECTIVE 11 ACTION, NO RESPONSE. 12 TO SUMMARIZE UP TO THIS POINT, WENDT CAVALIERLY, 13 KNOWINGLY, AND INTENTIONALLY GOES FORWARD WITH THE BREACH 14 OF CONTRACT. HIS SUPERVISORS, NAMELY GRIFFIN AND BARNES, 15 ARE NOW COMPLICIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN APPRISED AND HAVE 16 NOT TAKEN CORRECTIVE ACTION MEASURES TO MITIGATE WENDT'S 17 FAULTY CONDUCT. 18 IF WENDT POSSESSED EVEN A MODICUM OF AVERAGE 19 INTELLIGENCE AND DEMONSTRATED A CAPABILITY TO DO REAL 20 POLICE WORK, WHICH ENTAILS LEARNING JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE 21 FACTS ARE, HE COULD HAVE CONFIRMED, AS PREVIOUSLY POINTED 22 OUT TO HIM TWICE BY ME, THAT THE VEHICLE HAS HAD, DID 23 HAVE, AND CONTINUES A HAVE LEGITIMATE PARKING PERMIT. 24 CLEARLY, THIS CONFIRMATION COULD HAVE BEEN 25 ASCERTAINED WITH VERY, VERY LITTLE TIME AND EFFORT BY MARCH 22, 2012 34 1 WENDT, THUS PREVENTING THIS ESCALATION. 2 I FIND HIS CONTINUED OBSTINATENESS TO INSIST 3 THAT THE CITATION WAS LEGITIMATE AS BEING BOTH 4 UNCONSCIONABLE -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SIR. 6 MR. SCHONONT: -- AND REPUGNANT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SIR. 8 MR. SCHONONT: AT BEST, THE ABSENCE OF 9 PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY -- 10 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 11 MR. SCHONONT: -- BY ANY OF THOSE -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOUR TIME IS UP. 13 MR. SCHONONT: -- ON THE DOLE AT CITY COLLEGE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUR 15 TIME IS UP. 16 MR. SCHONONT: YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 MR. SCHONONT: YOU CAN CUT ME SOME SLACK LIKE 19 YOU DID EVERYONE ELSE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO -- 21 MR. SCHONONT: IN THE -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. YOUR 23 TIME IS UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 24 MR. SCHONONT: YEAH. OKAY. I WILL TELL YOU 25 WHAT ONE OF THESE DAYS, AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR ATTORNEY MARCH 22, 2012 35 1 HERE -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SIR. 3 MR. SCHONONT: -- SOMEONE IS GOING TO INTRODUCE 4 PUNITIVE MEASURES. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK 6 YOU. 7 WE HAVE WILLIAM WALKER. 8 MR. WALKER: YOU GAVE EVERYONE A HEADS-UP, BUT 9 ME. I'M SORRY. 10 HI, GOOD EVENING, BOARD. MY NAME IS WILLIAM 11 WALKER, AND I AM THE NEWLY-APPOINTED SHARED -- I'M SORRY. 12 STUDENT GOVERNANCE COORDINATOR FOR THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS 13 COUNCIL OCEAN CAMPUS. 14 I WANTED TO JUST GIVE A BRIEF REPORT BECAUSE I 15 HAVE ONLY BEEN ON THE JOB ABOUT THREE DAYS, BUT I'VE 16 GOTTEN A LOT OF E-MAIL. AND I WANTED TO JUST SHARE THAT. 17 WELL, FOR FOLKS WHO DON'T KNOW, THE SHARED 18 GOVERNANCE RESPONSIBILITY IS THE FOUR CONSTITUENT GROUPS 19 OF THE COLLEGE. AND YOU ALL JUST GOT A PRIMER ON IT WITH 20 THE LAST INFORMATIONAL ITEM. THE FOUR CONSTITUENT GROUPS, 21 ADMINISTRATORS, STAFF, FACULTY, AND STUDENTS ALL SHARE 22 RESPONSIBILITY IN GOVERNING THE COLLEGE. AND THERE ARE A 23 NUMBER OF COMMITTEES. 24 16 DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND SEVERAL 25 SUBCOMMITTEES THAT DEAL WITH DIFFERENT DECISIONS THAT THE MARCH 22, 2012 36 1 COLLEGE MAKES ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND THESE COMMITTEES 2 MEET PERIODICALLY. AND IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO APPOINT 3 STUDENTS TO THESE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES. AND THE STUDENT 4 VOTE CARRIES THE SAME WEIGHT AS EVERY VOTE ON THE 5 COMMITTEE. 6 I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 7 A CHANCELLOR SEARCH, AND WE HAVE A STUDENT BODY OF 8 APPROXIMATELY 80 TO 100,000 DEPENDING IF YOU COUNT FULL OR 9 PART-TIME EQUIVALENCE. AND WE ARE ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE 10 STUDENT ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND I HAVE TO BRING THAT NEWS 11 TO NINE DIFFERENT CAMPUSES, SO I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT 12 WITH YOU. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THERE'S TWO. TWO. 14 MR. WALKER: OH, TWO. OKAY, SO I MISSED THAT. 15 I'M SORRY. TWO STUDENTS FOR 100,000 -- REPRESENTING 16 100,000 STUDENTS. 17 BUT WHAT I DID WANT TO SHARE, AND I DIDN'T BRING 18 COPIES, BUT IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE MOST RECENT 19 UPDATE ON THE A.S. WEBSITE. I HAVE SEVEN COPIES LEFT OVER 20 FROM JEFFREY'S EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETING. 21 IT'S A NEW COMMITTEE ON THE A.S. FOR OCEAN 22 CAMPUS. IT'S CALLED, "THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND 23 INVOLVEMENT COMMITTEE." AND WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD A 24 PUBLICITY ARM OF A.S. THE STUDENT -- THE ELECTED STUDENTS 25 ARE PRETTY BUSY TRYING TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK, AS WELL AS MARCH 22, 2012 37 1 REPRESENT ALL OF THE STUDENTS. AND THE COMMITTEE WILL 2 WORK TO TRY TO PLUG STUDENTS INTO -- 3 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 4 MR. WALKER: -- FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS AROUND 5 ORGANIZING. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 MR. WALKER: AND THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THE 8 THAT STUDENTS KNOW ABOUT SHARED GOVERNANCE THROUGH 9 PUBLICITY, SO THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THAT FOR ALL OF US? 13 MR. WALKER: I HAVE SEVEN COPIES. SO THE POINT 14 WAS LIKE PIE IN MY FACE. HOPEFULLY, YOU WILL TALK TO ME. 15 OKAY, THANK YOU. WE WILL GO TO THE APPROVAL OF 16 THE MINUTES. 17 IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 22 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 23 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 24 ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TWO MINUTES. SO I WILL -- I 25 ASSUME THAT THAT IS FROM THE REGULAR -- MARCH 22, 2012 38 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOU ARE MOVING THE REGULAR 2 MEETING MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 23RD. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YES. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, OKAY. 5 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MINUTES OF THE 6 23RD? 7 MR. NELSON: ARE WE FINISHED WITH PUBLIC 8 COMMENTS? 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE FINISHED. 10 DID YOU HAVE MORE? 11 COUNSEL DICKEY: THERE WERE OTHERS. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I'M SORRY. THERE WERE 13 CARDS THAT HAD TO DO WITH BUDGET ISSUES, WHICH WE CAN TAKE 14 UP DURING THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT. I HAVE A BUNCH 15 FROM THE ART DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE BUDGET. 16 MR. NELSON: YES, SIR. I AM A FULL-TIME 17 STUDENT, AND I TAKE CLASSES BOTH DAY AND NIGHT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 MR. NELSON: I CAN'T BE AT EVERY -- LONGER 20 MEETINGS. AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT THIS WAS ONE I WAS ABLE TO 21 MAKE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP 23 THEN AND STATE YOUR NAME. AND PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD. 24 MR. NELSON: I DID. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU DID. WHAT IS YOUR MARCH 22, 2012 39 1 NAME. 2 MR. NELSON: WESLEY NELSON. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. YES, GOT IT. 4 MR. NELSON: GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. 5 GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WESLEY NELSON. I AM A 6 RETIRED MILITARY VETERAN WHO IS GOING BACK TO SCHOOL TO 7 EARN MY DEGREE IN SOCIOLOGY. I AM ALSO A STUDENT IN 8 MR. SANTOS' INTERMEDIATE CERAMICS CLASS. 9 WHEN MOST PEOPLE HEAR THE PHRASE CERAMICS CLASS, 10 THEY PROBABLY THINK OF COFFEE MUGS AND FLOWER VASES. BUT 11 I AM HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT. 12 I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF. BUT IN MY 13 EXPERIENCE, MR. SANTOS AND HIS STAFF OF INSTRUCTORS HAVE 14 STRIVED TO INSPIRE STUDENTS TO TAKE AN IDEA AND MAKE IT 15 REALITY. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THE CLASSES THAT HE TEACH 16 ALSO PROVIDES STUDENTS WITH PERSONAL GROWTH BY GIVING THEM 17 THE CONFIDENCE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES. 18 IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO BE CHALLENGED ACADEMICALLY. 19 IN ORDER FOR A PERSON TO REALIZE THEIR TRUE POTENTIAL, I 20 BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE CHALLENGED CREATIVELY. THIS IS MY 21 SECOND CERAMICS CLASS HERE AT CITY COLLEGE. AND IT 22 CONTINUES TO AMAZE ME WHEN I LOOK AROUND AND SEE FELLOW 23 STUDENTS GO FROM BEING TIMID AND TENTATIVE TO CONFIDENT 24 AND INSPIRED. IT IS A PHENOMENON I'VE SEEN REPEATED MANY 25 TIMES. AND I BELIEVE THE STUDENTS TAKE THE POSITIVE MARCH 22, 2012 40 1 MOTIVATION WITH THEM WHEN THEY LEAVE THE CLASS. 2 IN TODAY'S TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES, I UNDERSTAND 3 THAT SCHOOLS ACROSS THE NATION ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO CUT 4 SPENDING. BUT I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FACTS 5 BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO FURTHER CUT FUNDING TO THE ARTS 6 PROGRAMS HERE AT CITY COLLEGE. 7 ARTS COURSES PROVIDE A POSITIVE NURTURING 8 ENVIRONMENT FOR STUDENTS TO CREATIVELY EXPRESS THEMSELVES. 9 THE CLASSROOM BECOMES A COLLECTIVE COMMUNITY WHERE IDEAS 10 AND INSPIRATION ARE FREELY GIVEN AND TAKEN WITH AN 11 EMPHASIS ON RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER. PERSONAL GROWTH, A 12 SENSE OF CONFIDENCE, AND EMPOWERMENT ARE THE NATURAL 13 OUTCOMES TO THIS EXPERIENCE. 14 TO THAT END, I CHALLENGE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS 15 TONIGHT TO STEP INTO AN ARTS CLASS AND EXPERIENCE FOR 16 THEMSELVES THE INSPIRATION, CREATIVITY, AND POSITIVE 17 REINFORCEMENT THAT THESE CLASSES PROVIDE THE STUDENTS. 18 THANK YOU FOR TIME. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR 20 YOUR SERVICE. 21 I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS ABOUT CLASSES AND 22 BUDGETS AND THINGS, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT AT 23 THE BUDGET ITEM, WHICH WE WILL HAVE -- 24 MR. ILLICK: I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 6:30, AND I 25 REALLY CAN'T STAY THE WHOLE EVENING. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MARCH 22, 2012 41 1 TAKE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. OKAY. 3 MR. ILLICK: IF YOU DON'T MIND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT'S YOUR NAME? 5 MR. ILLICK: MY NAME IS JOSEPH ILLICK. 6 ANYWAY, MY NAME IS JOE ILLICK. AND I TAUGHT AT 7 SAN FRANCISCO STATE, AMERICAN HISTORY FOR 40 YEARS. AND 8 WHEN I RETIRED, I WENT TO THE CAMPUS AT JAMES LICK MIDDLE 9 SCHOOL AND TOOK A COURSE IN DRAWING, AND I HAVE BECOME AN 10 ART STUDENT THERE. AND THIS BEING AN ART STUDENT HAS 11 REALLY CHANGED MY VIEW OF THE WORLD VERY MUCH. 12 BUT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME I WAS IN TOUCH 13 WITH CITY COLLEGE. MY WIFE, NOW MY EX-WIFE, TAUGHT HERE 14 FOR 30 YEARS. MY TWO DAUGHTERS TOOK COURSES HERE. MY SON 15 PLAYED HERE AS A PIANIST WHEN HE WAS 15 ACCOMPANYING AN 16 ARTIST. IN OTHER WORDS, EVERY MEMBER IN MY FAMILY HAS 17 BEEN INVOLVED HERE. 18 AND I SAY THAT ONLY TO SAY HOW MUCH OF A 19 COMMUNITY INSTITUTION THIS IS TO ME AND TO MANY PEOPLE. 20 AND THAT THIS INSTITUTION, LIKE THE SCHOOLS THAT WE HAVE 21 AND WE MUST PRESERVE THESE THINGS AT ANY COST I THINK 22 BECAUSE THEY ARE SO PRICELESS. AND IF WE MAKE A CUT HERE 23 AND A CUT THERE, WELL, WE'VE SEEN THE DESTRUCTION THAT'S 24 BEEN BROUGHT BY PROPOSITION 13 IN THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOLS. 25 AND SO I WANTED TO SAY JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS MARCH 22, 2012 42 1 ABOUT WHAT'S SO TREASURED ABOUT THE ART DEPARTMENT OR 2 PROBABLY ANY DEPARTMENT AT CITY COLLEGE. AND THAT IS, 3 FIRST OF ALL THE FACULTY ACCESS TO THE STUDENTS. 4 MY OWN EXPERIENCE AS A CITY COLLEGE STUDENT HAS 5 BEEN THAT MY TEACHERS ARE OPEN TO AND ENCOURAGE STUDENTS 6 TO CONSULT THEM. AND THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ART 7 INSTRUCTION AND PROBABLY EXPENSIVE. 8 SECONDLY, I WOULD COMMENT ON THE EXCELLENCE OF 9 THE FACULTY HERE. AND AS I REFLECTED ON MY YEARS AT 10 PRINCETON UNIVERSITY, I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT CITY COLLEGE 11 OF SAN FRANCISCO DOES NOT SUFFER BY COMPARISON. 12 AND THIRDLY, THAT THE CAMPUS -- THAT THE 13 COMMUNITY -- THE CLASSROOMS RATHER THAT I HAVE BEEN IN ARE 14 THEMSELVES COMMUNITIES -- 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: YOUR TIME IS UP. 16 MR. ILLICK: OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO IS THERE ANY PUBLIC ON THE 20 MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 23RD? 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DO. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THE 23 MINUTES, OKAY. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: WAS DEAN BOEGEL SPEAKING ON HIS MARCH 22, 2012 43 1 BEHALF OR ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS BEHALF -- THE PUBLIC'S 2 BEHALF WHEN HE -- THIS SAYS, "ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF." 3 HAVE YOU TAKEN A LOOK AT THIS? 4 MR. BOEGEL: MY EARS ARE BURNING. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: IT SAYS, "ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF" 6 AS A TITLE, AND THAT'S NOT YOUR TITLE. 7 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT IS THIS IN REGARDS TO? 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE MINUTES. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE MINUTES, OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH. 13 MR. BOEGEL: I'M SORRY. WHICH MINUTES ARE 14 THESE? I'M SORRY. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: THESE ARE THE 23RD OF FEBRUARY. 16 IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE. 17 MR. BOEGEL: THE FIRST PAGE. WHERE? I'M SORRY. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: IT'S "ITEMS TAKEN OUT OF ORDER." 19 IT'S IN THAT PARAGRAPH. 20 MR. BOEGEL: OH, IT SAYS, "TOM BOEGEL, 21 ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, SURE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WANT THIS TO BE CORRECT. 23 24 MR. BOEGEL: SURE. IF YOU WANT TO SAY, "DEAN OF 25 INSTRUCTION," THAT WOULD BE GREAT. MARCH 22, 2012 44 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 2 MR. BOEGEL: THANKS. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: DEAN OF INSTRUCTION. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE WILL TAKE THAT AS A 5 CORRECTION. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? 9 ALL RIGHT. STUDENT TRUSTEE. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 23RD ARE APPROVED. 21 I WILL TAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVING THE MINUTES 22 OF THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING OF MARCH 17TH (SIC). 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: IT'S MARCH 7TH. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE MARKS. MARCH 22, 2012 45 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO, NO. IT'S MARCH 7TH. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MARCH 7TH? 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH, YOU SAID, "17TH." 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT SAYS, "17TH" HERE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S JUST 7TH. THE 17TH WAS 7 SATURDAY. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: 7TH. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SORRY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 11 AND THERE WAS A MOTION? WAS THERE A MOTION? 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I MOVED IT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 15 SECOND? 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL SECOND IT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE. 18 ANY DISCUSSION? 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAVE SOME CORRECTIONS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: UNDER "GOLDEN HILL ASSOCIATES," 23 IT SHOULD BE "GOLD HILL ASSOCIATES." 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: AND I BEG TO DIFFER, WE DIDN'T MARCH 22, 2012 46 1 APPROVE A CONTRACT AMOUNT. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE 2 "150,000" OR "46,000" OR WHATEVER THE AMOUNT WOULD BE. 3 AND I WOULD PREFER THAT THAT BE AN EXACT AMOUNT, 4 BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD REFER TO "150,000." 5 BUT IT NEEDS TO -- 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WHAT DID THE RESOLUTION 7 SAY? 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE "150,000." 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T BELIEVE -- I BELIEVE OUR 10 ACT WAS THAT WE ACCEPT -- WE VOTED TO CHOOSE GOLD HILL. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I ASSUMED THAT INCLUDED THEIR 13 BID PACKAGE SO THAT WAS THE DECISION, THE ACTION ITEM THAT 14 NIGHT. 15 WE HAD APPROVED $150,000 RESOLUTION -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PREVIOUSLY. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- IN PREVIOUS MONTHS, A PREVIOUS 18 BOARD MEETING. AND THE GOLD HILL AMOUNT, THE BID, FELL 19 BELOW THAT NUMBER, SO I DIDN'T -- SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT 20 THERE WAS A NEED TO APPROVE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT GIVEN THOSE 21 TWO AFOREMENTIONED FACTS. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION 23 ITSELF WAS BASICALLY A BLANK NUMBER BECAUSE WE WERE 24 LOOKING AT THE QUOTES AT THAT MEETING ANYWAY. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. MARCH 22, 2012 47 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YEAH, SO AS IT IS, THE 2 TEXT WOULD BE -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO HOW WOULD THE MINUTES BE 4 ALTERED TO REFLECT THAT. I DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF 5 ME. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: I AM UNCOMFORTABLE LEAVING A 7 BLANK SPACE THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD TAKE ANYTHING, 8 INCLUDING THE "150,000" THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FILLED IN, 9 BUT I AM UNCOMFORTABLE LEAVING A BLANK SPACE THERE. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD MOVE TO DELETE EVERYTHING 11 AFTER "EARLIER" IN THE THIRD LINE, SO THE COMMA IS DELETED 12 ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PERIOD AFTER THE PARENTHESES. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. YES, THAT'S GOOD. 14 THERE'S A MOTION BY TRUSTEE NGO. 15 IS THERE A SECOND -- 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: SECOND. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- FOR THAT CORRECTION? 18 IS THERE DISCUSSION? 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YEAH, PRESIDENT RIZZO, IF 20 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MINUTES, IT WILL BE A REFLECTION OF 21 WHAT HAPPENED -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S CORRECT. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- AT THE MEETING. AS A 24 RECALL, THE MOTIONS THAT WE APPROVED THE FIRM. WE JUST -- 25 WE LOOKED AT A QUOTE. WE DIDN'T SPECIFY A DOLLAR AMOUNT. MARCH 22, 2012 48 1 WE JUST KNEW THE QUOTE AS PRESENTED TO US. IT WASN'T IN 2 THE MOTION. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED -- WE MIGHT AS 3 WELL -- WE SHOULD REFLECT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE 4 MEETING RATHER THAN -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE 6 DELETION OF THAT DOES NOT REFLECT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE 7 MEETING? 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IT'S NOT THAT. I'M 9 JUST -- I MEAN MY RECOLLECTION MAY BE WRONG, BUT WAS THIS 10 THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION WE VOTED ON, 11 APPROVED, OR -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, THE BIG 13 PACKAGE HAD COSTS IN IT. IT HAD COST ESTIMATIONS IN IT. 14 AND IT WASN'T A SIMPLE FIGURE. IT WAS A BASE FIGURE, PLUS 15 OTHER EXPENSES SHOULD THEY BE INCURRED. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I REMEMBER THAT TOO, 17 YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: 46,000. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IT'S AROUND -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, 46 WAS THE BASE. THAT'S 21 RIGHT. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: SO -- 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I AM JUST LOOKING FOR 25 CLARITY, SO I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT. MARCH 22, 2012 49 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THAT -- THE PROPOSED FIX IS 2 OKAY WITH YOU? 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IF THAT'S THE -- IF THAT 4 DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT WE APPROVED IN THE ACTION OF THE 5 MEETING -- 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- THAT'S FINE. YEAH. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, OKAY. 9 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 10 PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT CHANGE? 11 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 14 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 15 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 22 OKAY, SO THAT CHANGE IS APPROVED. 23 SO LET'S VOTE ON THE REGULAR MOTION AS AMENDED. 24 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN? 25 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE, ON THE MINUTES AS MARCH 22, 2012 50 1 AMENDED. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 4 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 12 OKAY, SO THE MARCH 7TH MINUTES ARE NOW APPROVED. 13 ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION AGENDA. 14 COUNSEL, ARE THERE CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTIONS 15 AGENDA? 16 COUNSEL DICKEY: THERE IS ONE MODIFICATION TO 17 THE FIO GRANTS RESOLUTION, BUT THERE ARE NO OTHER 18 CHANGES -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 20 COUNSEL DICKEY: -- OR REVISIONS, I'M SORRY. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHICH RESOLUTION NUMBER WAS 22 THAT? 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT'S THE FIO GRANTS RESOLUTION, 24 WHICH IS -- 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FIO, IS THAT A SPECIAL -- MARCH 22, 2012 51 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT IS -- LET'S SEE -- YOU KNOW, 2 I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTUALLY EVEN INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA 3 BECAUSE IT IS "JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION ONLY." 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: IT'S "INFORMATION ONLY." 5 COUNSEL DICKEY: THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, IT'S NOT A -- OKAY. 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT'S AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM, SO 8 IT'S NOT ACTUALLY EVEN AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT THAT IS THE 9 ONLY CHANGE TO THE DOCUMENTS IN YOUR PACKETS. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO NO CHANGES TO THE 11 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE A 14 MOTION. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAVE A POINT -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: -- OF INFORMATION. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN WE GET IT ON THE TABLE 19 WITH THE MOTION. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. WELL, YES, GO. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I'LL MOVE IT. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WILL MOVE IT. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 25 IS THERE A SECOND TO THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA? MARCH 22, 2012 52 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND THE -- 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL SECOND IT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SECONDED BY STUDENT 4 TRUSTEE FANG. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT 7 WHY COUNSEL ANNOUNCES THE ADDITIONS, AND THE 8 MODIFICATIONS, AND THE RETRACTION OF THE RESOLUTIONS JUST 9 BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS AND WHERE THE PRESIDENT CALLS, 10 HAVE THERE BEEN ANY MODIFICATIONS? 11 THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE TO OUR 12 MEETINGS FULLY EXPECTING FOR A RESOLUTION TO BE HEARD 13 TONIGHT AND WHO ARE PREPARED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST A 14 RESOLUTION AND WHO HAVE BEEN WHISKED -- THEIR REASON FOR 15 BEING HERE HAS BEEN WHISKED AWAY BY THE COUNSEL. 16 AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE -- THIS IS NOT GENERAL 17 COUNSEL. I AM TAKING -- DON'T TAKE THIS PERSONALLY, BUT I 18 DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S ALLOWED TO OCCUR. HE SHOULDN'T SAY, 19 THIS HAS BEEN MODIFIED OR AMENDED OR PULLED. HE SHOULD 20 HAVE TO SAY, WHY THOSE THREE ACTIONS HAVE HAPPENED. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING 22 EVER SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY CHANGES, ANY ADDITIONS OR 25 CHANGES BY RESOLUTIONS HAVE TO BE DONE BY MONDAY BY MARCH 22, 2012 53 1 5:00 O'CLOCK, MONDAY. SO THE CHANGES HE'S ANNOUNCING HAVE 2 BEEN DONE BY THEN WITHIN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT. 3 THE WITHDRAWALS CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. AND 4 THEY HAPPEN FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REASONS. SOMETIMES 5 THEY ARE NOT READY. SOMETIMES THERE'S EVENTS THAT MAKE 6 THEM NO LONGER RELEVANT. SO WITHDRAWALS CAN HAPPEN ANY 7 TIME. SO I MEAN THAT'S MY KNOWLEDGE. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: THAT'S YOUR KNOWLEDGE. 9 CHANCELLOR. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S NOT ANY BETTER THAN 11 THAT. MY KNOWLEDGE IS PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, I AM GOING TO PROPOSE A 13 RESOLUTION FOR NEXT MONTH THAT THIS CAN'T HAPPEN, THAT 14 THIS PRACTICE CANNOT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO, OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A 18 MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA TO ADOPT IT. 19 IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 20 PUBLIC COMMENT? 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 24 "AYE." 25 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. MARCH 22, 2012 54 1 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 8 OKAY, THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA IS ADOPTED. 9 LET'S APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. I WILL TAKE A 10 MOTION TO APPROVE -- OH, ACTUALLY, WE SHOULD GO THROUGH 11 AND SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE 12 CONSENT AGENDA. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WANT TO PULL B5. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B5, OKAY. 15 ARE THERE ANY OTHER B RESOLUTIONS THAT ANYONE ON 16 THE BOARD OR IN THE ROOM WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THE 17 CONSENT CALENDAR? 18 OKAY, C RESOLUTIONS, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE 19 ANY C RESOLUTIONS? 20 NO? 21 AUDIENCE OR ON THE BOARD? 22 HUMAN RESOURCES RESOLUTIONS, G, H, AND N 23 RESOLUTIONS, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE THOSE? 24 OKAY. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT TO MOVE THE C RESOLUTIONS MARCH 22, 2012 55 1 AND VOTE ON THEM. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. 3 LET'S DO THE B -- 4 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL MOVE THE C RESOLUTIONS. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE C RESOLUTIONS? 6 TRUSTEE BERG: WE JUST DID THE B, DIDN'T WE? 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DIDN'T DO THE B. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: NO, HE'S DOING IT ALL AT ONCE. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS DOING IT ALL AT ONCE IN 11 REMOVING THINGS. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S GOOD. GO AHEAD. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU SEE IN FACT THERE WAS ONLY 14 ONE MORE LEFT AND THAT WAS S2. 15 DOES ANYONE WANT TO REMOVE S2 FROM THE CONSENT 16 CALENDAR? 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: S1 HAS BEEN MARKED AS CONSENT. 18 COUNSEL DICKEY: S1 IS ALSO ON CONSENT. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: S1 IS TOO. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, S1, IT'S PUNCHED OUT ON 21 MY -- THE HOLE WENT THROUGH IT, OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WANT S1 AND S2 PULLED. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WOULD LIKE BOTH OF THEM 24 PULLED? 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH. MARCH 22, 2012 56 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO WE CAN GO BACK AND 2 VOTE ON THEM. 3 SO FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY, B3 AND B4. 4 IS THERE A MOTION? 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 OKAY, THE B RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED. 21 THE C RESOLUTIONS, ONE, TWO, AND THREE. 22 IS THERE A MOTION? 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON; MARCH 22, 2012 57 1 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 5 "AYE." 6 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 14 THE C RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED. 15 THE HUMAN RESOURCES RESOLUTIONS G1-13, H1-3, AND 16 N1 AND N2. 17 IS THERE A MOTION? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, I MOVE ALL OF THE PERSONNEL 19 RESOLUTIONS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY MARCH 22, 2012 58 1 "AYE." 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 10 THE HUMAN RESOURCES RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED. 11 AND THAT'S THE END OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 12 OKAY, SO DISCUSSION ITEMS. DEAN STARR HAD TO 13 LEAVE TO DRIVE TO THE AIRPORT. 14 I AM WONDERING IF WE SHOULD TAKE THE MONTHLY 15 FINANCIAL REPORT NEXT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME CARDS FROM 16 SPEAKERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE BUDGET. 17 SO VICE CHANCELLOR GOLDSTEIN, WITH THE BOARD'S 18 INDULGENCE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COMING UP. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SHOULD I GO FIRST? 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT RIZZO. 22 FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION 23 THAT AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SPECIAL MEETING IN THE MIDDLE 24 OF YOUR EVENING FOR THE BOARD'S AUDIT COMMITTEE TO RECEIVE 25 THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. AND, OF COURSE, THE BOARD MARCH 22, 2012 59 1 CAN SCHEDULE ANOTHER SESSION ANYTIME IT WANTS TO GO IN 2 DEPTHS INTO THE REPORT ITSELF, THE FINDINGS, ET CETERA, 3 BUT THERE WILL BE A PRESENTATION FROM THE INDEPENDENT 4 FINANCIAL AUDITOR TONIGHT. 5 AND IN TERMS OF OUR GENERAL FINANCIAL REPORT, 6 THE -- I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. THIS IS STILL IN THE 7 AFTERMATH OF THE REALLY SUPERLATIVE COOPERATION WE GOT 8 FROM OUR LABOR UNIONS AND OUR DISTRICT TO ACHIEVE SAVINGS. 9 WE DESPERATELY NEED IT IN RESPONSE TO THE VERY LATE STATE 10 CUTS THIS YEAR THAT ARE HELPING US CLOSE THE GAP WE HAVE 11 IN THE CURRENT YEAR. 12 ALL TOLD, THE ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE ACCUMULATED 13 ACROSS THE COLLEGE THAT INVOLVE ALL OF THE COLLEGE'S 14 EMPLOYEES AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT THEM WILL 15 SAVE THE COLLEGE APPROXIMATELY $2.9 MILLION, WHICH IS 16 ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE STATE TOOK AWAY FROM 17 US. 18 THE LATEST NEWS OUT OF SACRAMENTO IS A LITTLE 19 PUZZLING IN THE CURRENT YEAR. PART OF THE GOVERNOR'S 20 OVERALL STRATEGY, AS YOU RECALL, INVOLVED ELIMINATING 21 REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES AND REDIRECTING SOME OF THAT 22 FUNDING, SOME OF WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE ITS WAY TO 23 COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THAT'S A VERY INTRICATE PROCESS AND 24 IT'S NOT OVER YET, BUT THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED 25 THAT THAT FUNDING MAY NOT MAKE ITS WAY TO US, AND THAT'S MARCH 22, 2012 60 1 SOMETHING WE WILL WATCH VERY CLOSELY. 2 AND THEN AS WE LOOK AT THE NEXT YEAR, THE 3 ADMINISTRATION WILL BE MEETING DURING THE BREAK WEEK TO 4 TRY TO FORMALIZE THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN JELLING FOR 5 TRYING TO DEAL WITH NEXT YEAR'S GAP. 6 I KNOW THAT TRUSTEE NGO GRACIOUSLY POSTPONED HIS 7 RECENT BUDGET MEETING TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DO 8 THAT AS WE WERE VERY BUSY WITH FINANCIAL ITEMS RELATED TO 9 THE AUDIT AND TO ACCREDITATION. THAT SLIPPED OFF OUR 10 AGENDA A BIT, BUT WE ARE GETTING BACK ON IT. 11 AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I WOULD LIKE TO 12 REPORT -- 13 OH, AND OF COURSE AS YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNOR 14 MODIFIED HIS SINGULAR APPROACH TO SOLVING THE BUDGET WITH 15 HIS ORIGINAL BALLOT MEASURE THAT FOCUSED SALES TAX AND 16 SOME INCREASE IN INCOME TAX AND MOVE CLOSER TO THE 17 PROPOSAL THAT THE FEDERATION OF TEACHERS HAD PUT OUT. 18 THERE'S A COMPROMISED EFFORT NOW. 19 THE LEAGUE PUT OUT SOME NUMBERS TODAY THAT 20 AREN'T SPECIFIC TO EACH DISTRICT, BUT SHOW RANGES OF 21 REVENUE THAT WOULD MATERIALIZE IF THIS ELECTION IS 22 SUCCESSFUL IN NOVEMBER. AND WHILE IT WOULD NOT BE AS 23 GENEROUS TO OUR COLLEGE AS THE MILLIONAIRES' TAX WOULD BE, 24 IT IS BETTER THAN WHAT THE GOVERNOR ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. 25 THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. MARCH 22, 2012 61 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR 2 VICE CHANCELLOR GOLDSTEIN? 3 I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, VICE CHANCELLOR. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE 6 UNIONS REGARDING THE EMERGENCY CUTS AND THE EMERGENCY 7 GIVEBACKS THAT HAS CONCLUDED NOW OR -- 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT HAS. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH ALL OF 11 OUR MAJOR UNIONS NOW. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK 13 OUR UNION REPRESENTATIVES FOR REALLY DEALING WITH THIS 14 EMERGENCY VERY QUICKLY -- 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AND GENEROUSLY, I BELIEVE 17 SO -- 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I COMPLETELY AGREE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AND THE MEMBERS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THE MEMBERS AS WELL, YES. 21 AND ONE MORE QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU. ON THE NEW 22 RECONFIGURED GOVERNOR'S TAX MEASURE. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH LESS WE 25 AT CITY COLLEGE MIGHT BE GETTING THEN WE WOULD HAVE UNDER MARCH 22, 2012 62 1 THE MILLIONAIRES' TAX? 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: A LOT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: A LOT. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BUT THERE IS NO SPECIFIC NUMBER 5 YET THAT I REALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU FOR THE COMPROMISED 6 PROPOSAL. THERE'S A RANGE OF STATEWIDE NUMBERS THAT HAVE 7 COME OUT SO FAR. I AM SURE WITHIN A WEEK OR SO WE WILL 8 SEE NUMBERS FOR OUR DISTRICT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MILLIONS. 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES, MILLIONS LESS, YES. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. UNFORTUNATE. THANK 12 YOU. 13 I HAVE SOME CARDS. AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO 14 SPEAK ON THE DISTRICT'S FINANCES OF THE BUDGET, THIS WOULD 15 BE THE TIME TO DO IT. AND IF YOU ARE NOT CALLED AND YOU 16 WANT TO SPEAK, JUST PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD. 17 I HAVE CHRISTOPHER JOHNSON. 18 CHRISTOPHER JOHNSON? 19 OKAY, VENETTE COOK. 20 MS. COOK: HELLO, I AM VENETTE COOK. I AM FROM 21 THE CIVIC CENTER CAMPUS. I FORGOT MY NOTES, BUT I THINK I 22 REMEMBER. 23 BASICALLY, WE ARE IN OUR HUMBLE WAY TRYING TO DO 24 SOMETHING AT OUR CAMPUS TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDS, AS WELL 25 AS TO RAISE MONEY. WE HAVE OUR T-SHIRT CAMPAIGN. YOU MARCH 22, 2012 63 1 COULD SEE THEM HERE. AND I HAVE A PACKET FOR EACH OF YOU 2 KIND OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, BUT I WAS 3 FEELING A LOT OF ANGST ABOUT OUR SITUATION, AND I ATTENDED 4 AN EARTH DAY MEETING. 5 AND I WAS SO MOVED BY THE WAY PEOPLE HAVE COME 6 TOGETHER OVER 30 YEARS. I AM SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN 7 EARTH DAY WAS QUITE A JOKE. AND TODAY PEOPLE SAY, 8 EVERYDAY IS EARTH DAY. AND I STARTED TO THINK, WELL, WHAT 9 IF EVERY DAY IS EDUCATION DAY BECAUSE REALLY SO MANY 10 PEOPLE HAVE BECOME NOT SUPPORTIVE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION IN 11 CALIFORNIA. 12 SO WE STARTED THIS CAMPAIGN TO RAISE MONEY TO 13 SAVE A CLASS AND TRY TO SPEAK TO -- FROM THE GRASSROOTS UP 14 AS EARTH DAY WAS EVOLVING OVER TIME. AND IT'S BECOME VERY 15 POWERFUL. AND IT'S CHANGED A LOT OF MINDS. I THINK 16 THERE'S A LACK OF SUPPORT, A LACK OF WILL. I AM NOT 17 SAYING PEOPLE HERE. 18 SO I HAVE BEEN WEARING THIS T-SHIRT THAT SAYS, 19 RATIONING EDUCATION IS A ONE PERCENT IDEA. INVEST IN 20 PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SUPPORT PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND INVEST IN 21 AMERICA. IF WE REALLY WANT TO TURN CALIFORNIA AROUND, 22 WHAT WE NEED IS TO CHANGE MINDS ABOUT HOW EDUCATION HAS 23 BEEN UNDERFUNDED AND UNDER SUPPORTED FOR AT LEAST 30 24 YEARS. 25 SO I HAVE A PACKET FOR ALL OF YOU. IF YOU WOULD MARCH 22, 2012 64 1 LIKE TO BUY A T-SHIRT OR A DECAL, WEAR IT PROUDLY. 2 WE ALSO HAVE A LETTER -- DOING A LETTER 3 CAMPAIGN. WE ARE THINKING OF DOING IT AGAIN IN THE 4 CAFETERIA BEFORE A MAJOR VOTE IN APRIL THAT HAPPENS IN 5 SACRAMENTO BECAUSE I THINK LETTER WRITING -- A SMALL 6 CAMPAIGN HAS CHANGED MINDS. AND WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE 7 MINDS ABOUT THE WAY EDUCATION IS DISREGARDED AND 8 DISRESPECTED BY SO MANY AND SO UNDERFUNDED FOR SO LONG. 9 WE CAN'T DO THIS ALONE. WE NEED EVERYONE. 10 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 11 MS. COOK: WE NEED CSU'S, UC'S, K-12'S, AND 12 COMMUNITY COLLEGES -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 14 MS. COOK: -- ALTOGETHER. THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 16 OMAR AL-HASSANI. 17 NO, OKAY. 18 KOVAK WILLIAMSON. 19 MR. WILLIAMSON: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT RIZZO, AND 20 THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND CHANCELLOR 21 GRIFFIN. 22 I AM LOOKING AT THIS WONDERFUL ART AROUND THE 23 WALLS HERE THAT COMMEMORATES SOME OF THE HISTORY HERE AT 24 CITY COLLEGE. JAPANESE AMERICANS WHO WERE ATTENDING HERE 25 IN 1942. THIS ART AROUND THE WALL IS IN THEIR MEMORY IN MARCH 22, 2012 65 1 THEIR HONOR. THEY WERE DISENROLLED FROM SAN FRANCISCO 2 JUNIOR COLLEGE DUE TO THE POLITICS OF A DAY. DISENROLLED, 3 A VERY INTERESTING WORD. 4 SEVENTY YEARS LATER HERE TODAY, WE ARE CAUGHT UP 5 IN A SET CIRCUMSTANCES THAT RESULTS IN US, FACULTY, AND 6 BOARD MEMBERS, AND ALL OF US AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE 7 HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT EFFECTIVELY DISENROLL 8 CITIZENS OF THE BAY AREA FROM AN EDUCATION HERE AT CITY 9 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO AND I WENT TOGETHER TO 11 SACRAMENTO. AND TO HIS CREDIT ON OUR BUS, HE SAID, GIVE 12 US BACK OUR MONEY. THAT WAS THE CHANT THAT HE STARTED AND 13 EVERYBODY ON THE BUS JUMPED UP AND CLAPPED THEIR HANDS AND 14 SAID, "GIVE US OUR MONEY. GIVE US OUR MONEY. GIVE US OUR 15 MONEY." SO ALL THE STUDENTS ON THE BUS TOOK THAT CHANT TO 16 THE RALLY. 17 WE NEED A UNITY OF PURPOSE. AND WE ARE FIGHTING 18 FOR IT. WHAT WE NEED TO SAY TO THE STATE ACROSS THIS 19 COUNTRY AND ALL THE OTHER COLLEGE DISTRICTS, NO MORE CUTS, 20 NO MORE CONCESSIONS, NO MORE GIVEBACKS. THIS IS A GREAT 21 INSTITUTION. EDUCATION IS A GREAT RESOURCE. EVERYBODY 22 HERE IS COMMITTED TO THAT, IS PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. 23 OUR HEARTS ARE HEAVY BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS 24 WE'VE HAD TO MAKE AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE AND THINGS HAVE 25 NEGATIVELY -- MARCH 22, 2012 66 1 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 2 MR. WILLIAMSON: -- EFFECTED THE CLASSROOMS. SO 3 NO MORE CUTS. LET'S FIND A WAY TO EXPAND THE PIE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 MR. WILLIAMSON: THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, SIR. 7 ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 8 SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE REPORT FROM 9 THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS. 10 FIRST WE HAVE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS. I HAVE ON 11 THE LIST SARAH FOX FROM THE EVANS CAMPUS. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THE EVANS CAMPUS AND JOHN 15 ADAMS CAMPUS HAVE BOTH REPORTED TO ME VIA E-MAIL THEY 16 CAN'T MAKE IT TODAY DUE TO THEIR -- THEY ARE FINISHING 17 THEIR MIDTERMS JUST NOW. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE YOU REPORTING ON THEIR 19 BEHALF? 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: NO. NO, I AM NOT. IT 21 WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: BUT I DO BELIEVE 24 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS VICE PRESIDENT IS HERE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. MARCH 22, 2012 67 1 JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD IN THE 2 MICROPHONE. 3 MR. YATES: HI, MY NAME IS AL YATES. I AM THE 4 VICE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 5 GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT RIZZO, AND MEMBERS OF 6 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 7 WE ARE PROUD TO UPDATE THE BOARD ON OUR 8 ACHIEVEMENTS THUS FAR FOR THE SPRING 2012. A VERY 9 SUCCESSFUL BLACK HISTORY MONTH CELEBRATION WAS HELD AT OUR 10 CAMPUS. ALSO A SUCCESSFUL MARCH IN MARCH. WE HAD ENOUGH 11 STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE, AND WE HAD OUR OWN BUS. WE 12 DIDN'T HAVE TO SHARE WITH EVANS, ALTHOUGH WE WOULDN'T HAVE 13 MIND DOING SO, BUT WE HAD ENOUGH STUDENTS SIGN UP THAT 14 THEY GAVE US OUR OWN BUS. WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THAT. 15 LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR STUDENT OUTREACH. WE 16 WILL BE HOLDING A STUDENT OUTREACH ON APRIL 11TH, 12TH, 17 AND 13TH. WE INVITE ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO COME. 18 AND WE WILL HAVE REFRESHMENTS. AND WE WILL BE IN THE 19 LOBBY. AND WE WILL MEET AND GREET OUR STUDENTS ON THE 20 CAMPUS. 21 OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE PUC AND COMMUNITY WALK 22 AROUND OF OUR CAMPUS WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. AND WE WERE 23 VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THE PUC. 24 AS YOU ALL KNOW, THEY ARE PLANNING -- THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER 25 OUR SOUTHEAST CAMPUS FACILITIES BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE MARCH 22, 2012 68 1 GOING TO BE WORKING WITH US IN THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE 2 THAT EVERYTHING'S A TRANSITION. IT'S SMOOTH. AND WE ARE 3 HOPING TO INCREASE OUR CLASSES, THE SIZES OF OUR CLASSES 4 IN THE BUILDING. 5 WE HAVE -- AND I AM GLAD TO AND PROUD TO 6 ANNOUNCE THAT OUR CNIT 103-L CLASS IS UP AND RUNNING. AND 7 WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 20 STUDENTS REGISTERED IN THE CLASS AND 8 WE HOPE TO HAVE THEM CONTINUE IN THE SUMMER AND FALL. 9 AND I MUST ASK, MS. JACKSON WAS HERE EARLIER. 10 AND ONCE AGAIN, WE DO AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR DEAN AT 11 THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: CAN I ASK A QUESTION? 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE MARKS. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: WHAT TIME ON THE 12TH, 13TH, AND 16 14TH IS THE -- 17 MR. YATES: I THINK IT'S 11TH -- LET ME SURE I 18 HAVE THIS. TUESDAY AND THURSDAY IS GOING TO BE FROM 11:00 19 TO 1:00 THAT TUESDAY AND THURSDAY. THAT WEDNESDAY, WE 20 PLAN IT FROM 5:00 TO 6:00 IN THE EVENING -- 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 22 MR. YATES: -- FOR THE EVENING CLASS. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. THANK YOU. 24 MR. YATES: OKAY. THANK YOU. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS ROBERT ARENAS HERE FROM THE MARCH 22, 2012 69 1 OCEAN CAMPUS? 2 MR. FERNANDEZ: I AM. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 4 MR. FERNANDEZ: GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRIAN 5 FERNANDEZ. I AM A SENATOR HERE WITH THE A.S. COUNCIL HERE 6 ON OCEAN CAMPUS. BOBBY -- IT'S BOBBY'S BIRTHDAY SO HE 7 COULDN'T COME TODAY, SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HIM. 8 SO JUST TO UPDATE -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE DOESN'T WANT TO SPEND HIS 10 BIRTHDAY HERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 11 SPEAKER UNKNOWN: IT WAS HIS BIRTHDAY THE DAY 12 BEFORE. 13 MR. FERNANDEZ: YOU CAN TAKE IT UP WITH HIM I 14 GUESS. 15 SO THE A.S. COUNCIL A FEW WEEKS AGO FINALLY TOOK 16 A STANCE AND WE VOTED TO STAND AGAINST THE STUDENT SUCCESS 17 ACT, A SYMBOLIC MOVE. 18 FURTHERMORE, WE CREATED A NEW SUBCOMMITTEE, THE 19 STUDENT SUCCESS ACT SUBCOMMITTEE FROM THE A.S. COUNCIL. 20 OUR MAIN JOB IS TO LOBBY AND TO MOBILIZE AND TO OUTREACH 21 THE STUDENTS HERE ON CAMPUS, THE FACULTY, AND 22 ADMINISTRATION ABOUT WHAT THE STUDENT SUCCESS ACT IS AND 23 HOW IT IS ESSENTIALLY PRIORITIZING COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I 24 AM IN THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL. 25 THE COMMITTEE IS ALSO -- WE ARE HOSTING A MARCH 22, 2012 70 1 CONFERENCE MAY 12TH AT THE MISSION CAMPUS. IT'S A 2 REGIONAL CONFERENCE WHERE WE ARE INVITING DIFFERENT 3 COMMUNITY COLLEGES WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS AND ADDRESS THE 4 DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE AFFECTING HIGHER -- PUBLIC 5 HIGHER EDUCATION, SUCH AS STUDENT SUCCESS ACT, GOVERNOR 6 BROWN'S NEW COMPROMISE BILL, WHICH I THINK IS STILL CRAP. 7 THE A.S. COMMITTEE IS NOT ENDORSING HIS NEW PROPOSAL. WE 8 ARE STILL PUSHING FOR THE MILLIONAIRES' TAX. 9 I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT FOR MY REPORT. 10 THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 12 WE HAVE NEXT KAREN SAGINOR OF THE ACADEMIC 13 SENATE. 14 MS. SAGINOR: GOOD EVENING, CHANCELLOR, 15 TRUSTEES. 16 THE ACADEMIC SENATE HAS RECEIVED AND IS 17 COMPILING FACULTY, ADMINISTRATOR EVALUATION SURVEYS. THAT 18 SURVEY PROCESS CLOSED ON MONDAY. AND WE ARE STILL 19 COMPILING IT. I CAN'T GIVE YOU NUMBERS YET. AND THAT'S 20 ONE PART OF THE ADMINISTRATOR EVALUATION PROCESS THAT'S 21 NOW ONGOING. 22 THE BIPARTITE COMMITTEE MET LAST MONTH AND 23 APPROVED FIVE COURSES FOR GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S 24 ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON. 25 THE ACCREDITATION STEERING COMMITTEE IS MARCH 22, 2012 71 1 FINISHED. IT HAD ITS LAST MEETING ON -- LAST FRIDAY 2 MARCH 16TH AFTER THE ACCREDITATION TEAM VISIT. THE 3 VISITING TEAM WILL COMPLETE THEIR DRAFT REPORT. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN WILL HAVE A CONFIDENTIAL 5 OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT ANY ERRORS, AND THEN IT WILL BE 6 SENT TO THE 19 MEMBER ACCJC-WASC COMMISSION, SO THAT'S THE 7 PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. THE COMMISSION WILL DETERMINE OUR 8 ACCREDITATION STATUS AND WILL NOTIFY US IN JUNE. 9 BECAUSE SPECIFICS ARE NOT FINAL, THE ORAL EXIT 10 REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY DR. SERRANO LAST WEEK, THE 11 TEAM LEADER WAS PHRASED IN VERY GENERAL TERMS. 12 ONE ISSUE ON WHICH DR. SERRANO WAS SPECIFIC WAS 13 THE STUDENT LEARNING OUTCOMES AND ASSESSMENT. SHE PRAISED 14 THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON SLO'S BY STUDENT SUPPORT 15 SERVICES, BY BUSINESS, CULINARY, EARTH SCIENCES, 16 ENGINEERING, ENGLISH, CREDIT ESL, LIBRARY LEARNING 17 RESOURCES, AND MATHEMATICS. BUT WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO 18 WITH SLO'S TO MEET THE STANDARDS THAT ARE EXPECTED OF US 19 BY FALL OF 2012. 20 THE ACADEMIC SENATE HAS CREATED AN AD HOC 21 COMMITTEE TO HELP COORDINATE WORK ON THIS. MEMBERS HAVE 22 BEEN APPOINTED. THE FIRST MEETING WILL BE THE WEEK AFTER 23 SPRING BREAK. DRAFT AGENDAS PUT TOGETHER, AND THAT'S 24 GOING TO BE GETTING OFF THE GROUND. 25 THIS COMMITTEE CAN HELP COORDINATE WORK, BUT ALL MARCH 22, 2012 72 1 FACULTY WILL NEED TO BECOME ENGAGED WITH THIS PROCESS IF 2 THEY AREN'T ALREADY. 3 COMING UP, THE STATE ACADEMIC SENATE PLENARY 4 WILL BE IN APRIL. WE WILL BE GOING TO THAT. THE STUDENT 5 LEARNING -- EXCUSE ME. THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE 6 ISSUES AND OTHER SIMILAR ISSUES WILL BE TAKING CENTER 7 STAGE ON THE AGENDA THERE. AND WE WILL BE WORKING HARD ON 8 THOSE ISSUES. 9 PLACEMENT TESTING AND ASSESSMENT, BOARD MEMBERS 10 AT SOME MEETINGS HAVE HEARD QUITE A BIT ON THIS ISSUE. I 11 WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE STUDENT PREPARATION AND 12 SUCCESS COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING ON APRIL 3RD, WHICH IS A 13 TUESDAY FROM 2:15 TO 3:30. THERE'S A ROOM ASSIGNMENT FOR 14 THAT NOW, WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN THIS BUILDING, NUB 370, 15 AS WITH ALL SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES, THAT COMMITTEE 16 IS OPEN TO ALL. 17 WE EXPECT THAT SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROPOSALS WILL 18 BE HEARD THERE. AND THAT THAT COMMITTEE WILL MAKE 19 RECOMMENDATIONS ON TO THE ACADEMIC SENATE EXECUTIVE 20 COUNCIL ON THOSE PROPOSALS. 21 AND THAT MEETING IS GOING TO BE PRECEDED BY A 22 GUEST SPEAKER, NIKKI EDGECOMBE, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW 23 ABOUT THAT. SHE IS A SENIOR RESEARCH ASSOCIATE FROM THE 24 COMMUNITY COLLEGE RESEARCH CENTER AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. 25 SHE WILL BE DISCUSSING RESEARCH ON PLACEMENT TESTS. MARCH 22, 2012 73 1 THAT'S ANOTHER MEETING THAT'S OPEN TO ALL. IT'S 2 BEING SPONSORED BY THE MIP AND BY THE SMACC GROUP. AND 3 THAT MEETING IS THAT SAME TUESDAY, APRIL 3RD, 12:45 TO 4 2:00 IN THE WELLNESS CENTER ROOM 103. 5 AND THAT CONCLUDES -- IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS 6 FOR ME BEFORE I YIELD TIME TO ALISA, I WILL BE HAPPY TO 7 TAKE THEM. 8 YES. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM YOU 10 REQUESTING THAT THE COMMITTEES HAVE WRITTEN MINUTES. 11 MS. SAGINOR: YES, SIR. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT IT'S A 13 MATTER OF MONEY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COULD BE 14 SOMETHING THAT THE CHANCELLOR ADDS -- SPEAKS TO OR NOT. 15 I MEAN WE HOLD OURSELVES TO A DIFFERENT 16 STANDARD -- WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARD AS WE 17 HOLD OTHER COMMITTEES TO. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T 18 HOLD OURSELVES TO THAT SAME STANDARD. 19 MS. SAGINOR: WE DO MANAGE AT OTHER COMMITTEES 20 TO TAKE MINUTES. ONE PERSON ON THE COMMITTEE TAKES 21 MINUTES IF THE MINUTES ARE NOT DETAILED, BUT I THINK IT 22 WOULD BE POSSIBLE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DISAGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I'VE 24 LOOKED AT THE SHARED GOVERNANCE SITE AND THE ACADEMIC 25 SENATE IN ADDITION -- AS A COUPLE OTHER PLACES, THE MARCH 22, 2012 74 1 CURRICULUM COMMITTEE. YOURS ARE NOT TO BE -- ARE GOING TO 2 BE HELD UP WITH A GREATER SCRUTINY THAN OTHER PLACES SO, 3 YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT YOUR QUESTION AND YOUR COMMENTS 4 WOULD BE DIRECTED TO -- BETTER TO SHARED GOVERNANCE AND TO 5 US AT THE SAME TIME. 6 MS. SAGINOR: THERE IS A SHARED GOVERNANCE 7 EVALUATION PROCESS THAT'S GOING ON NOW. AND I EXPECT THAT 8 ONE OF THE OUTCOMES OF THAT EVALUATION WILL BE THAT WE ALL 9 NEED TO DO TO A BETTER JOB OF KEEPING MINUTES. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES, I AGREE. 11 MS. SAGINOR: ALL RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE COMMENTS YOU HAVE ARE HEARD 13 AND SHARED BY ME AND BY OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD. BUT, 14 YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 15 MS. SAGINOR: I HAD ALSO BROUGHT THAT TO THE 16 ATTENTION OF PRESIDENT RIZZO OR RATHER VICE PRESIDENT FRED 17 TETI BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION OF PRESIDENT RIZZO AT A 18 COMMITTEE MEETING. THE BOARD ACTUALLY HAS A POLICY SAYING 19 THAT THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MINUTES FOR ALL THE BOARD 20 COMMITTEE MEETINGS. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T KNOW. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER. 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I HAD TWO QUESTIONS, BUT 25 I WILL ONLY ASK YOU THE ONE. MARCH 22, 2012 75 1 WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PLENARY SESSION, CAN 2 YOU TELL ME WHERE AND WHEN? 3 MS. SAGINOR: THAT ONE IS CLOSE BY. IT IS 4 APRIL -- I WANT TO SAY APRIL 12TH. I'M NOT SURE. THE 5 20TH, THAT WEEKEND. WELL, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY. 6 AND IT WILL BE HELD AT THE -- AT AN AIRPORT NEAR -- 7 MR. TETI: THE WESTIN. 8 MS. SAGINOR: THE WESTIN AT SAN FRANCISCO 9 AIRPORT, THE SFO WESTIN. SO THERE IS NO NEED FOR TRAVEL 10 OR A HOTEL. THERE IS ONLY THE REGISTRATION FEE. AND 11 BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF THE FINANCES OF THE COLLEGE, I AM 12 PLANNING TO PAY THAT OUT OF MY POCKET. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SURE. THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 MS. MESSER: GOOD EVENING. HAPPY ALMOST SPRING 16 BREAK. 17 SO I JUST WANTED TO -- IT'S BEEN A BUSY SEVERAL 18 WEEKS FOR US. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE HAD OUR 19 RATIFICATION VOTE BASED ON THE BARGAINING THAT'S ALREADY 20 BEEN MENTIONED. AND WE HAD A RECORD TURNOUT FOR OUR VOTE. 21 MORE PEOPLE VOTED IN THIS CONTRACT RATIFICATION THEN VOTED 22 THE LAST TIME WE GOT A BIG RAISE OR AT ANY PREVIOUS TIME. 23 SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF EXCELLENT DISCUSSION AND 24 DIALOGUE ABOUT THAT. AND THOUGH WE APPROVED IT, WE HEARD 25 FROM A LOT OF FACULTY ABOUT THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THE MARCH 22, 2012 76 1 IMPLICATIONS OF SAYING, "YES." THEY WANTED TO SAVE THE 2 COLLEGE. THEY WANTED TO HELP THE COLLEGE, BUT THEY ARE 3 VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED. AND YOU WILL BE 4 HEARING MORE FROM US. WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE 5 PUBLIC EDUCATION IS HEADED, RIGHT. 6 SO IT ENERGIZED A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND PEOPLE 7 REALLY WANTED TO WORK TO CHANGE THE REVENUE SITUATION. SO 8 AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY ACTIVE AROUND THE MILLIONAIRES' 9 TAX. AND I WILL SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT. 10 BUT IT ALSO REALLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT ON 11 MARCH 1ST AND MARCH 5TH IN SACRAMENTO. HERE IN SAN 12 FRANCISCO PEOPLE GOT VERY ACTIVE, AND THAT WAS GREAT TO 13 SEE. 14 AS YOU KNOW AND AS WAS ALREADY MENTIONED, LAST 15 WEEK THE CALIFORNIA FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, OUR STATEWIDE 16 AFFILIATE, MADE A COMPROMISE WITH GOVERNOR BROWN. WE 17 ACTUALLY MOVED GOVERNOR BROWN IN A MUCH MORE PROGRESSIVE 18 DIRECTION. 19 BUT IT'S TRUE THAT THE NEW VERSION, WHICH STILL 20 TAXES MILLIONAIRES, ACTUALLY IT TAXES MORE MILLIONAIRES 21 THAN THE MILLIONAIRES' TAX WAS GOING TO, IS NOT GOING TO 22 BRING NEARLY AS MUCH MONEY INTO CITY COLLEGE AS WE HAD 23 HOPED TO GET OUT OF THE MILLIONAIRES' TAX. 24 IT WILL BRING $2 BILLION MORE DOLLARS IN THAN 25 THE GOVERNOR'S INITIAL BUDGET PROPOSAL, SO WE COULD SORT MARCH 22, 2012 77 1 OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN FOR US. BUT IT'S ALSO 2 GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE USE THIS AS AN 3 OPPORTUNITY IN THE LARGER BUDGET PICTURE AND THE LARGER 4 BUDGET FIGHT AT THE STATE LEVEL. BECAUSE OF COURSE, THERE 5 IS NO ACTUAL BUDGET. WE ARE LOOKING AT A MAY REVISE. 6 THERE'S NO ACTUAL BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR FROM THE STATE AT 7 THIS POINT, AND THAT'S A LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WE INTEND TO 8 BE INVOLVED IN. 9 LOCALLY, FOLKS ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT I THINK 10 TO BE INVOLVED IN OUR PARCEL TAX CAMPAIGN. AND I AM 11 REALLY GLAD TO SAY THAT SEIU AND AFT 2121 ARE TAKING STEPS 12 TO SORT OF HELP MOVE US FORWARD ALTOGETHER TO WORK ON 13 THAT. 14 AND SO I WANT TO MENTION THAT ON TUESDAY, 15 APRIL 10TH AT 6:00 P.M. THERE WILL BE AN INITIAL CAMPAIGN 16 MEETING AT THE SEIU OFFICES ON RHODE ISLAND. AND I AM 17 SURE YOU WILL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT. AND HOPEFULLY, 18 THAT WILL BE AN OPEN MEETING WHICH, HOPEFULLY, MANY PEOPLE 19 WILL JOIN IN AND GET INVOLVED IN THE CAMPAIGN. 20 AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ON 21 THE LOCAL BUDGET SCENE THAT AFT 2121, WE WOULD LIKE TO 22 COMMUNICATE OUR INCREASING CONCERN ABOUT ONE AREA OF THE 23 BUDGET. AND THAT IS, THE DISTRICT'S USE OF OUTSIDE 24 CONSULTANTS. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THE USE 25 OF ATTORNEYS AND INVESTIGATORS, AND WE ARE FEELING A LEVEL MARCH 22, 2012 78 1 OF INCREASING ALARM. 2 NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE IN THE ROOM ABOUT BEING IN 3 MEETINGS WHERE THREE ATTORNEYS ARE IN THE MEETING WITH US 4 BASICALLY, AND HOW MUCH THAT'S COSTING OUT OF OUR 5 RESOURCES. SO THANKS, AND I WISH YOU ALL A RESTFUL BREAK. 6 MR. ROGERS: THE OIL EXTRACTION TAX. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 MS. MESSER: AND WE ARE STILL, OF COURSE, 9 COLLECTING SIGNATURES FOR THE OIL EXTRACTION TAX. THAT 10 CAMPAIGN HAS NOT SHIFTED OR CHANGED. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I JUST WANTED TO FIRST, 13 YOU KNOW, COMMEND CFT. YOU KNOW, CFT IS MUCH SMALLER. NO 14 OFFENSE. THEY ARE MUCH SMALLER THAN THE OTHER 15 ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT THE GOVERNOR'S INITIAL TAX. 16 AND USUALLY, YOU KNOW, SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CFT GET 17 KIND OF GET PUSHED ASIDE AND TOLD TO TAKE THEIR MEASURE 18 OFF THE BALLOT AND, YOU KNOW, JUST STEP ASIDE FOR THE BIG 19 BOYS AND BIG FOLKS. 20 AND I THINK CFT REALLY KIND OF STRUCK A CHORD 21 WITH THE PUBLIC WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE MILLIONAIRES' TAX, 22 YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO POLL AT TWO-THIRDS, ALMOST 23 70 PERCENT CONSISTENTLY. AND THEY REFUSE TO STEP DOWN AND 24 BACK DOWN, YOU KNOW, FROM THE GOVERNOR OR FROM ANY OTHER 25 FOLKS TELLING THEM THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO DOWN IN MARCH 22, 2012 79 1 FLAMES, AND THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY REVENUE. 2 AND SO -- AND IT REALLY DID SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU 3 REALLY DO STAND YOUR GROUND AND REALLY TRULY REPRESENT THE 4 99 PERCENT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL FORCE FOLKS COMING FROM A 5 MORE MODERATE PERSPECTIVE TO SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE. 6 AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PERFECT YOU KNOW -- IT'S 7 NOT A PERFECT COMPROMISED LEGISLATION, BUT IT'S AT LEAST 8 SOMETHING AND AT LEAST WE ARE GOING IN UNITED, YOU KNOW, 9 TO REALLY BRING IN REVENUE FROM THE STATE, WHEREAS, WE 10 COULD HAVE JUST SELF -- WE COULD HAVE JUST DESTROYED EACH 11 OTHER. 12 AND SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK CFT, YOU KNOW, 13 COMING TOGETHER AND REFUSING TO BACK DOWN AND FINALLY 14 GETTING THE GOVERNOR TO COME TO THE TABLE AND ACTUALLY 15 NEGOTIATE WITH A PROGRESSIVE, YOU KNOW, REVENUE MEASURE. 16 SO I JUST WANT TO THANK CFT FOR STEPPING UP AND 17 EVERYTHING. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEES, NOW WE WILL 19 RECESS -- 20 MS. THOMAS: CLASSIFIED SENATE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. CLASSIFIED SENATE. 22 JAMES ROGERS. 23 IS HE HERE? 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ANGELA THOMAS IS GOING TO 25 SPEAK. MARCH 22, 2012 80 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 2 MS. THOMAS: HE'S HERE. HE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT 3 DIFFERENT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 MS. THOMAS: HE GOT DARKER AND WIDER. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR 7 THE RECORD, PLEASE. 8 MS. THOMAS: MY NAME IS ANGELA THOMAS, AND I AM 9 THE SEIU REP. JAMES IS OUT OF TOWN. AND ATHENA IS OUT OF 10 TOWN, AND SO I WILL START THERE. 11 ATHENA SENDS HER THANKS FOR ALL THE KIND 12 MESSAGES AND PHONE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES THAT SHE GOT AS 13 CONDOLENCES DUE TO THE FACT THAT HER PARTNER PASSED AWAY. 14 EVERY TIME I TALK TO HER, SHE TELLS ME HOW MUCH 15 IT HAS MEANT TO HER HAVING PEOPLE AT THE COLLEGE REACH OUT 16 AND JUST SAY HOW MUCH THEY SUPPORT HER. 17 I CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON AFT 2121 TO GIVE THE 18 NUMBERS AND TO STATE THE FACTS, SO I AM NOT GOING TO SAY 19 THAT. 20 CLASSIFIED IS VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR 21 BUDGETARY ISSUES AND THE STATE OF THE COLLEGE AND WHERE 22 IT'S GOING. JUST LIKE ALL OF US ARE. AND I AM GOING TO 23 SIT THAT OVER THERE. 24 NOW SPEAKING MORE INDEPENDENTLY, BUT 25 REPRESENTING THEM NONETHELESS, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUR MARCH 22, 2012 81 1 RELATIONSHIP AS A WHOLE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE THERE HAVE 2 BEEN SOME NOT SO NICE THINGS THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED IN THE 3 LAST TWO MONTHS. AND IF THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR CONTINUES, 4 IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY WE GET BECAUSE WE WILL BE 5 SO SEVERED AS A BODY THAT IN MY OPINION IT'S NOT GOING TO 6 MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. 7 FIGHTING OVER WHO HAS WHAT, AND WHO SAYS WHAT, 8 AND HOW PEOPLE CONDUCT THEMSELVES, AND IT'S OKAY TO 9 DISAGREE. BUT SOME OF OUR DISAGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN TOO 10 PUBLIC. AND IN MY OPINION, IT REFLECTS THE LACK OF 11 RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE AS OPPOSED TO THE RELATIONSHIP 12 THAT WE HAVE. 13 NOW LUCKILY FOR ME, I AM SPECIAL. I CAN CALL 14 ALL OF YOU, AND YOU ALL RESPOND, OKAY. WE CAN SMILE. AND 15 WE CAN REALLY AGREE TO DISAGREE. THERE ARE SOME TOPICS 16 WITH SOME OF YOU I CAN SAY, HONEY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO 17 TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE DON'T AGREE. JUST 18 LEAVE IT ALONE, AND IT'S GOOD. BUT I NEED THAT FROM ALL 19 OF YOU. I NEED THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH A LOT OF 20 PEOPLE UNDER THE SOUND OF MY VOICE TO BE REFLECTIVE AMONG 21 THE PERSON TO YOUR LEFT AND THE PERSON TO RIGHT. AND 22 THAT'S EVERYBODY IN HERE. 23 AND I AM GOING TO PICK ON PETER. YOU KNOW I 24 LIKE TO PICK ON PETER BECAUSE IT'S BEEN NO SECRET THAT ME 25 AND PETER CAN KIND OF DISAGREE. YOU KNOW I CAN BE KIND OF MARCH 22, 2012 82 1 MAD AT PETER. BUT PETER CAN TELL YOU I WAS TEASING HIM 2 WHEN I SAW HIM TONIGHT, I'M LIKE DUDE, WHO ARE YOU? WHERE 3 ARE THE JEANS AND THE SWEATSHIRT. I LIKE THAT PETER, YOU 4 KNOW. AND SEE HE'S LAUGHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE CAN 5 LAUGH. 6 THAT'S HOW YOU SUCCESSFULLY GO FORWARD BECAUSE 7 IT'S NOT GOING TO IMMEDIATELY GET ANY BETTER. IT'S GOING 8 TO GET BETTER. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER. 9 I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT. BUT I DON'T WANT 10 US TO BE SO LACERATED THAT IT ALMOST DOESN'T MAKE ANY 11 DIFFERENCE. 12 SO THIS IS WHY I AM SAYING WHAT I AM SAYING 13 BECAUSE JUST LIKE I SAID TO THE ACCREDITATION TEAM, I KNOW 14 THE GOOD THAT'S IN ALL OF YOU BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT. I 15 NEED MORE OF IT. THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: PRESIDENT RIZZO, CAN I GIVE 18 MY -- 19 CAN I GIVE YOU MY CARD? I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM 20 YOU, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PROBLEM WITH ME. 21 MS. THOMAS: NO. I JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE ABOUT 22 BUSY. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO, I AM NOT BUSY. THAT'S MY 24 CELLPHONE ON IT. 25 MS. THOMAS: OKAY. THANK YOU. MARCH 22, 2012 83 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 2 WE WILL NOW RECESS AS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND 3 IMMEDIATELY RECONVENE AS THE BOARD'S AUDIT COMMITTEE. AND 4 I WILL BE HANDING THE GAVEL OVER TO TRUSTEE NGO WHO IS THE 5 CHAIR OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. 6 THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS TRUSTEE NGO, TRUSTEE 7 WONG, AND MYSELF. IF WE COULD HAVE QUITE, PLEASE. 8 I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE TRUSTEES TO STAY FOR 9 THIS. WE ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE AUDIT AND RECEIVE 10 IT, SO I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. AND I THINK WE NEED A 11 MOTION TO RECESS SINCE -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: MOVE TO RECESS. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 16 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I WILL HAND THE GAVEL TO MARCH 22, 2012 84 1 TRUSTEE NGO. 2 COUNSEL DICKEY: CHAIR NGO, I SHOULD POINT OUT 3 THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO ARE NOT ON THE AUDIT 4 COMMITTEE SHOULD LEAVE THE DAIS DURING THIS PART OF THE 5 MEETING. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LEAVE THE DAIS. 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I ENCOURAGE THEM TO STAY IN 9 THE ROOM THOUGH. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: THEY MAY STAY IN THE ROOM. 11 (PRESIDENT RIZZO HANDS OVER THE GAVEL TO CHAIR 12 NGO.) 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 22, 2012 85 1 (AUDIT COMMITTEE CALLED TO ORDER AT 8:32 P.M.) 2 CHAIR NGO: ALL RIGHT. WE ARE CALLING TO ORDER 3 THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HERE ON 4 MARCH 22ND, 2012 IN THE MUB. 5 MEMBERS PRESENT OF THE COMMITTEE: WE HAVE 6 EVERYONE PRESENT HERE. TRUSTEE WONG, TRUSTEE RIZZO, AND 7 MYSELF, STEVE NGO. WE ARE SET TO START AS SOON AS WE HAVE 8 JUST THREE OF US UP HERE. 9 CORRECT? 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 11 CHAIR NGO: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG, I THINK WE NEED 13 YOU TO LEAVE THE DAIS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ON THE AUDIT 14 COMMITTEE. 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: IF YOU COULD, PLEASE. THANK 16 YOU. 17 TRUSTEE RIZZO: BUT I WOULD HOPE YOU COULD STAY 18 IN THE ROOM -- 19 CHAIR NGO: DON'T GO TOO FAR. 20 TRUSTEE RIZZO: -- TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION. 21 CHAIR NGO: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE RIZZO: WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THE 23 AUDIT REPORT. 24 CHAIR NGO: LET'S TAKE UP THE FIRST AND ONLY 25 AGENDA ITEM, THE SPECIAL PRESENTATION OF THE ANNUAL MARCH 22, 2012 86 1 FINANCIAL AUDIT 2010-2011. 2 IS IT CROWE HORWATH? 3 CFO BILMONT: YES. 4 CHAIR NGO: WELCOME. 5 CFO BILMONT: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE NGO. 6 JOHN BILMONT, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 7 TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THE RESULTS OF OUR 8 ANNUAL SINGLE FINANCIAL AUDIT. WE HAVE BEEN -- WE HAVE AN 9 UNQUALIFIED OPINION ON OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS TAKEN AS A 10 WHOLE WITH A FEW MATTERS OF EMPHASIS. THERE IS A -- 11 TRUSTEE RIZZO: I'M SORRY. NOT EVERYONE MAY 12 KNOW WHAT AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION IS IF YOU COULD -- 13 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TELL US WHAT THAT IS. 15 CFO BILMONT: AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION ON AUDITED 16 FINANCIALS IS REALLY THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT 17 THE BOOKS AND RECORDS ARE IN ORDER AND STATED CORRECTLY. 18 THIS YEAR WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS OF EMPHASIS. 19 AND I AM GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR PARTNER IN THE FIELD, TINA 20 TREIS FROM CROWE HORWATH, AND SHE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH 21 THOSE THINGS. 22 I ALSO HAVE SOME REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS UNDER 23 SAS 144. I AM GOING TO HAND THOSE LETTERS OUT RIGHT NOW. 24 CHAIR NGO: OKAY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. 25 CFO BILMONT: TINA. MARCH 22, 2012 87 1 CHAIR NGO: WELCOME. 2 MS. TREIS: THANK YOU. 3 THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN NGO, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF 4 THE COMMITTEE. 5 I DO HAVE TWO THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. I 6 THINK I WILL GO THROUGH THE LETTER FIRST IF I COULD. 7 UNDER OUR AUDITING SENATES, WE ARE REQUIRED TO 8 COMMUNICATE BACK WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE ABOUT SPECIFIC 9 ITEMS. AND THIS LETTER GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS FOR YOU. 10 I WILL JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS IN RELATION TO IT. 11 THE FIRST PARAGRAPH TALKS ABOUT OUR 12 RESPONSIBILITY UNDER AUDITING STANDARDS, BUT I WILL COVER 13 THAT IN OUR OPINION. 14 IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 3 OF THAT LETTER, WE ARE 15 REQUIRED TO TELL YOU IF THERE WAS ANY SIGNIFICANT OR 16 UNUSUAL TRANSACTIONS WHERE THERE WASN'T CLEAR ACCOUNTING 17 GUIDANCE AND THERE WAS NONE. OR IF THERE WAS ANY 18 SITUATIONS WHERE ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT WAS CHOSEN BY THE 19 DISTRICT AND THERE WAS NONE. 20 WE ALSO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU SOME OF THE 21 SIGNIFICANT ACCOUNTING ESTIMATES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE 22 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE YOUR 23 CLAIMS LIABILITY IN RELATION TO YOUR SELF-INSURANCE AND 24 LITIGATION CLAIMS. 25 THERE'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS THIS MARCH 22, 2012 88 1 YEAR. AND I WILL DIRECT YOU TO A SCHEDULE IN THIS LETTER 2 IN A MOMENT. 3 AND WE HAD SOME UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS AS 4 WELL. SO WE CALL THOSE PAST ADJUSTMENTS. THEY ARE 5 ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE AUDIT PROCESS THAT 6 WE DISCUSS WITH MANAGEMENT. AND MANAGEMENT TAKES A LOOK 7 AT IT AND DECIDES, ALONG WITH US, THAT THEY ARE NOT 8 MATERIAL TO THE ORGANIZATION AND SO THEREFORE, THEY WILL 9 BE CORRECTED THE NEXT YEAR. 10 THE OTHER ITEMS ON PAGE 4 TALK ABOUT SITUATIONS 11 WHERE WE MAY HAVE HAD OUR INDEPENDENCE IMPAIRED. AGAIN, 12 WE ARE HIRED BY THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD, BUT WE 13 WORK WITH MANAGEMENT THROUGH THE AUDIT PROCESS. AND IT'S 14 OUR OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO YOU IF WE FELT THERE WAS 15 ANY SITUATIONS WHERE OUR INDEPENDENCE COULD BE COULD HAVE 16 BEEN IMPAIRED. AND WE HAD NONE OF THOSE SITUATION. 17 ONE ITEM I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS 18 DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED IN PERFORMING THE AUDIT. AS YOU 19 KNOW, THIS IS MARCH. WE TYPICALLY DO THIS PRESENTATION IN 20 DECEMBER. AND WE ACTUALLY WORKED ON THIS AUDIT EVERY 21 MONTH BEGINNING IN JULY WHEN WE WERE FIRST HIRED BY THE 22 DISTRICT. 23 WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE CONTROLLER AS FAR AS 24 THE LEAD LIAISON IN THE AUDIT PROCESS. AND THAT 25 APPOINTMENT WAS TURNED OVER TO THE CFO. AND AT THAT POINT MARCH 22, 2012 89 1 IN TIME, THE AUDIT PROCESS ACCELERATED DRAMATICALLY. AND 2 SO WE WERE ABLE TO FINISH IT FOR THE MEETING TODAY. BUT 3 THERE WERE SOME DELAYS AND SITUATIONS THAT OCCURRED IN 4 RELATION TO THAT. 5 THE -- RIGHT BEHIND THE LETTER ABOUT TWO MORE 6 PAGES BACK, THERE'S THE CHART OF SIGNIFICANT AUDIT 7 ADJUSTMENTS FOR YOU AND ALSO THE PAST ADJUSTMENTS. SO YOU 8 CAN SEE THE DETAIL OF WHAT WE DID RECORD AND WHAT WE DID 9 NOT RECORD. 10 AND THEN ALSO ATTACHED IS A DRAFT OF THE 11 MANAGEMENT'S REPRESENTATIONS LETTER. AND THAT'S THE 12 LETTER THAT YOUR MANAGEMENT TEAM SIGNS TO LET US KNOW THAT 13 THEY HAVE PROVIDED US ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S DISCUSSED 14 IN THAT LETTER FOR THE AUDIT. 15 ALL RIGHT. EARLIER YOU RECEIVED A DRAFT OF THE 16 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS WELL. AND I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T HAD 17 A LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT. IT'S A LARGE DOCUMENT 18 AS IT ALWAYS IS. AND I CERTAINLY WOULD VOLUNTEER TO COME 19 BACK TO ANOTHER AUDIT COMMITTEE AND GO THROUGH THAT REPORT 20 IN DETAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SINCE I KNOW WE ARE KIND 21 OF SANDWICHED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE REGULAR MEETING. 22 I DID WANT TO POINT OUT AS JOHN INDICATED ON THE 23 INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT, WHICH IS THE FIRST OPINION. 24 IT IS THAT UNQUALIFIED OPINION. AND AS HE MENTIONED, 25 THAT'S THE OPINION YOU DO WANT TO SEE. MARCH 22, 2012 90 1 THE THIRD PARAGRAPH INDICATES THAT IN OUR 2 OPINION, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE PRESENTED FAIRLY IN 3 ALL MATERIAL RESPECTS, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. 4 WE DID HAVE TWO EMPHASIS MATTERS THAT WE 5 INCLUDED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. THE FIRST ONE 6 RELATED TO TWO RESTATEMENTS THAT WE DID TO CORRECT THE 7 PRIOR YEAR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. THERE WAS TWO SITUATIONS 8 THAT CAME UP WHERE WE CORRECTED A FIXED ASSET AND ALSO A 9 LIABILITY TO BE RECORDED FOR THE ORGANIZATION. 10 IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY WERE FAIRLY 11 LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. THEY OFFSET EACH OTHER. AND 12 ACTUALLY, IT WAS A POSITIVE FOR THE DISTRICT. SO IT ENDED 13 UP INCREASING YOUR NET ASSET POSITION BY 800,000 AT THE 14 END OF THE DAY. 15 THE NEXT ITEM IS ONE THAT WE ARE EMPHASIZING 16 SOME OF WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT. SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF THE 17 ECONOMY ON THE DISTRICT. WE DID WORK WITH MANAGEMENT AT 18 GREAT LENGTH TO DO AN ASSESSMENT AS TO WHAT WE CALL THE 19 GOING CONCERN NATURE OF THE ORGANIZATION WHETHER WE FEEL 20 THAT THE ORGANIZATION HAS THE WHEREWITHAL TO GO FORWARD. 21 WE DID NOT HAVE TO PUT THAT TYPE OF OPINION IN 22 THERE, BUT WE DID WANT TO DIRECT THE READER TO NOTE 17 23 WHERE DISTRICT PUT TOGETHER A DISCUSSION OF THE PLANS THAT 24 THEY HAVE TO GET THROUGH BOTH THINGS, THE CASH SHORTFALLS 25 THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT FROM THE DISTRICT, FUNDING FROM MARCH 22, 2012 91 1 THE STATE, AND ALSO JUST THE EQUITY POSITION OF THE 2 ORGANIZATION AS WELL. 3 WE ALSO ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE MANY OTHER 4 OPINIONS. THE EASIEST PLACE TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE AUDIT 5 REPORT IS ON PAGE 67. AND AS A TRUSTEE, THIS IS THE 6 SUMMARY PAGE OF THE AUDIT. AND SO IT'S WAY BACK IN THE 7 BACK, AND IT'S REQUIRED TO BE THERE. BUT ON PAGE 67, IT 8 TELLS YOU WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ARE. 9 THE FIRST IS THE ONE I JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE 10 UNQUALIFIED AUDIT OPINION. WE DID HAVE MATERIAL 11 WEAKNESSES IN RELATION TO THE FINANCIAL AUDIT. WE HAD 12 THREE. WE HAD FOUR SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES, AND THEN WE 13 HAD A FEW OTHER UNCONTROLLED DEFICIENCIES. 14 UNDER FEDERAL AWARDS, WE HAD NO MATERIAL 15 WEAKNESSES, AND WE HAD NO SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES. AND 16 THIS REALLY SHOULD BE NOTED BECAUSE IN THE PRIOR YEAR, YOU 17 HAD SOME FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS UNDER YOUR FEDERAL 18 AWARDS PROGRAM SECTION. AND THAT'S AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION 19 IN RELATION TO FEDERAL FINDINGS. 20 WE HAD TO LOOK AT EIGHT MAJOR PROGRAMS, SO 21 THAT'S A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE LOOK AT YOUR FEDERAL GRANTS. 22 AND YOUR STATE AWARDS, WE DID HAVE A QUALIFIED OPINION IN 23 RELATION TO SPECIAL TESTING WE HAD TO DO FOR CONTACT 24 HOURS. 25 AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE NUTSHELL OF THE AUDIT MARCH 22, 2012 92 1 PROCESS. WE DO ISSUE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT OPINIONS. AND 2 YOU WILL SEE THEM IN THE REPORT HIGHLIGHTING THE DIFFERENT 3 FINDINGS THAT RELATE TO THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE HAD. 4 FOLLOWING RIGHT BEHIND THAT ARE VARIOUS 5 FINDINGS. AND WE, AGAIN, CAN GO THROUGH THOSE AT ANOTHER 6 TIME. I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TODAY IF YOU WANT TO ASK 7 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS IN THAT AREA. 8 AND THE OTHER ITEM I WANT TO NOTE FOR YOU IS IN 9 THE BACK WE ARE REQUIRED TO SHOW PROGRESS IN RELATION TO 10 PRIOR YEAR FINDINGS. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE 11 ON THAT. THERE WERE SIX ITEMS IN THE PRIOR YEAR THAT HAD 12 NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET, SO THOSE ARE STILL REPEAT 13 FINDINGS IN THE CURRENT YEAR. 14 THERE WERE TWO FINDINGS THAT WERE PARTIALLY 15 IMPLEMENTED. SO SOME CORRECTION ACTIVE PLAN HAS BEEN PUT 16 IN PLACE FOR THOSE. AND TEN OF THOSE WERE IMPLEMENTED. 17 SO TEN SUCCESSFULLY, SIX NOT IMPLEMENTED, AND TWO 18 PARTIALLY IMPLEMENTED. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: IF I MAY -- THROUGH THE CHAIR. 20 JUST THAT THE SIX -- THOSE WERE BROUGHT UP 21 BEFORE IN PRIOR YEARS, WEREN'T THEY? 22 THE SIX THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO NOW. 23 MS. TREIS: YES. THE SIX ONES ARE FROM THE 24 AUDIT FROM JUNE 30, 2010. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, ALSO PRIOR AUDITS. MARCH 22, 2012 93 1 MS. TREIS: YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT 2 OF ME. 3 CHAIR NGO: YEAH, I THINK WHAT I -- 4 TRUSTEE WONG, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, 5 BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF AN INTERVENING MEETING AND WE JUST 6 GOT THESE REPORTS YESTERDAY, THAT WE MOVE TO JUST RECEIVE 7 THE REPORT TONIGHT. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S FINE. 9 CHAIR NGO: AND WE HAVE AN AUDIT COMMITTEE 10 SCHEDULED ON APRIL 16TH, WHICH I THINK YOU ARE AWARE OF AT 11 SIX O'CLOCK. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S OKAY. 13 CHAIR NGO: SO IT GIVES US TIME TO REVIEW THE 14 DOCUMENT AND GET OUR QUESTIONS READY BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT 15 OF QUESTIONS. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: SURE. 17 CHAIR NGO: IT'S JUST NOT TONIGHT I THINK IS THE 18 BEST -- 19 TRUSTEE WONG: I THINK MY ONLY STATEMENT WAS 20 THAT I THINK SIX OF THOSE WERE IN THE PRIOR AUDITS -- 21 CHAIR NGO: I GOT IT. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: -- FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. IT JUST 23 KEEPS GOING ON AND ON AND ON. 24 CHAIR NGO: I THINK YOUR POINT WAS MADE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. MARCH 22, 2012 94 1 CHAIR NGO: SO WHY DON'T YOU -- SO IF YOU HAVE 2 MORE QUESTIONS, YOU ARE ON THE COMMITTEE. SO WE SET THE 3 MEETING FOR APRIL 16TH AT 6:00 P.M. AT GOUGH STREET. AND 4 WE WILL TAKE UP THIS DRAFT REPORT IN EARNEST AT THAT TIME. 5 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO 6 RECEIVE -- 7 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 8 CHAIR NGO: -- THIS -- IS IT A REPORT OR AN 9 AUDIT? 10 MS. TREIS: AN AUDIT OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. 11 CHAIR NGO: GREAT. 12 A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE AUDITED FINANCIAL 13 STATEMENTS. 14 TRUSTEE RIZZO: I WILL SECOND THAT. 15 CHAIR NGO: THANK YOU. 16 TRUSTEE RIZZO: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF WHEN WE 17 RECEIVE THIS, DOES THE PRELIMINARY BECOME THE FINAL 18 THEN -- 19 MS. TREIS: YES. YES. 20 TRUSTEE RIZZO: -- ONCE YOU RECEIVE IT? 21 MS. TREIS: YES. 22 TRUSTEE RIZZO: SO THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, 23 OKAY. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: THANK YOU. 25 CHAIR NGO: ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL HAVE TIME TO MARCH 22, 2012 95 1 GO THROUGH THIS ON THE 16TH. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT 2 CONVERSION OF STATUS AT THAT POINT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE 3 CAN'T BRING UP, WHICH I FIND ARE A LOT OF ISSUES HERE, BUT 4 I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER 5 DISCUSSION. 6 TRUSTEE RIZZO: WELL, I WANTED TO ASK -- 7 CHAIR NGO: YES. 8 TRUSTEE RIZZO: -- WILL YOU BE THERE ON THE 16TH 9 OR -- 10 MS. TREIS: YES, WE WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE. 11 TRUSTEE RIZZO: OKAY. AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS 12 SO RECEIVING THIS, THIS BECOMES FINAL SO DOES THIS NOW GO 13 TO WASC -- 14 CFO BILMONT: ABSOLUTELY. 15 TRUSTEE RIZZO: -- SAY LIKE TOMORROW? 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TOMORROW. 17 TRUSTEE RIZZO: OKAY. GREAT. THAT'S ALL, 18 MR. CHAIR. 19 CHAIR NGO: NO MORE DISCUSSION? 20 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. 21 CHAIR NGO: OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF 22 RECEIVING THE REPORT -- THE STATEMENT? 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: WE NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT 24 ON THIS. 25 CHAIR NGO: OH, I'M SORRY. MARCH 22, 2012 96 1 PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AUDITED FINANCIAL 2 STATEMENT? 3 NOT ALL AT ONCE, GREAT. 4 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY "AYE." 5 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 6 CHAIR NGO: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE RIZZO: AYE. 8 CHAIR NGO: GREAT. SO IT'S UNANIMOUS. THE 9 MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10 I AM GOING TO -- DO I HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC 11 COMMENT AGAIN FOR NON -- 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 13 CHAIR NGO: I DO. 14 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AUDIT -- FOR 15 THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OTHER THAN WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED? 16 OKAY, GREAT. 17 THEN I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 18 TRUSTEE RIZZO: I WILL. SO MOVED. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 20 CHAIR NGO: OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED. AND LET'S 21 RECONVENE THE FULL MEETING. THANK YOU. 22 (AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:45 P.M.) 23 24 25 MARCH 22, 2012 97 1 (BOARD OF TRUSTEES' MEETING RECONVENES AT 8:46 2 P.M.) 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE WILL NOW RECONVENE 4 AS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. IF THE TRUSTEES COULD RETURN TO 5 THE DAIS. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE LOST THEM. THERE'S ONE. 6 I SEE ONE -- I SEE THERE ARE SOME TRUSTEES HERE. IF THE 7 TRUSTEES COULD MOVE TO THE FRONT. WE ARE NOT QUITE READY 8 TO BREAK YET I THINK. THERE THEY ARE. WE ARE 9 RECONVENING. 10 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS NOW RECONVENED. OUR 11 NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ITEM VIII. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM YET. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM? 14 WE DO. 15 WE ARE ON ACTION ON RESOLUTION AGENDA ITEMS. 16 THE FIRST ONE IS B1. 17 COUNSEL, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE RESOLUTION 18 TITLE. 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES, B1 IS ENTITLED, 20 "RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE BORROWING OF 21 FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012-2013; THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF 22 A 2012-2013 TAX AND REVENUE ANTICIPATION NOTE THEREFORE 23 AND PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEAGUE OF 24 CALIFORNIA TAX REVENUE ANTICIPATION NOTES PROGRAM." 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION FOR B1? MARCH 22, 2012 98 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE B1. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A SECOND? 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 5 BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 6 AND THIS IS -- WE DID THIS LAST YEAR. THIS IS 7 FOR BORROWING UP TO $80 MILLION IF YOU REMEMBER THAT. AND 8 IF I'M CORRECT, IT'S BECAUSE THE STATE IS DELAYING THE 9 AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO FUND TO COMMUNITY 10 COLLEGES, INCLUDING OURSELVES. SO IN ORDER TO KEEP THE 11 LIGHTS ON, WE HAVE TO BORROW $80 MILLION AND PAYBACK THAT 12 INTEREST, WHICH IS AN UNFORTUNATE WASTE OF TAXPAYER 13 RESOURCES, BUT THIS IS THE POSITION WE ARE IN. 14 IS THERE ANY OTHER -- IS THERE ANY COMMENT OR 15 DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? 16 OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT? 17 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. MARCH 22, 2012 99 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 3 OKAY, MOTION CARRIES. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEP. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: IF I MAY -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: -- PRESIDENT RIZZO. THERE ARE 9 SOME STUDENTS WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: -- S2. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AND I KNOW THEY HAVE TO LEAVE, SO 14 I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE S2. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 S2 IS MOVED. 17 IS THERE A SECOND? 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 COUNSEL DICKEY: SHALL I READ S2? 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, PLEASE DO READ S2. 22 COUNSEL DICKEY: S2 IS ENTITLED, "THE CITY 23 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF TRUSTEES DIRECTS THE 24 INSTALLATION OF A DONOR WALL AT THE NEW CHINATOWN/NORTH 25 BEACH CAMPUS RECOGNIZING DONATIONS RECEIVED." MARCH 22, 2012 100 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'D LIKE TO THANK TO START 2 WITH, TRUSTEE WONG, FOR ASKING ME TO CO-SPONSOR THIS. I 3 APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: IF I -- HAS IT BEEN MOVED AND 5 SECONDED? 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT HAS. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, OKAY. 8 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I KNOW -- I THINK, 9 TRUSTEE MARKS, YOU PULLED IT? 10 PERHAPS YOU SHOULD GO OR DO YOU WANT ME TO 11 RESPOND -- DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH, I'M WONDERING HOW THIS 13 CONFORMS TO THE NAMING POLICY THAT WE PASSED. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, RIGHT NOW THIS RESOLUTION 15 DOES NOT ADDRESS ANY OF THE NAMING OF ANY OF THE SPACES. 16 IT BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT THE CREATION OF A DONOR WALL AS 17 WE DID WITH THE ROSENBERG, WHICH I DON'T THINK WENT 18 THROUGH THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AS WE DID WITH THE MISSION 19 CAMPUS, AND I BELIEVE WITH THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS. 20 AND I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT THE REASON WHY THIS 21 IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE IT IS THE FIRST TIME IN THE 22 HISTORY OF THE CHINESE AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHERE 23 IMMIGRANTS, SOME HOLDING DOWN TWO OR THREE JOBS, TOOK IT 24 UPON THEMSELVES TO SOLICIT FUNDS, TO RAISE A THOUSAND 25 DOLLARS, SOME OF OUR STUDENTS THEMSELVES WHO WOULD BE ON MARCH 22, 2012 101 1 THE SIDEWALK RAISING MONEY, $10 HERE $20 THERE. AND I 2 DON'T WANT THIS TO BE COMPARED TO ANY OTHER TYPE OF 3 INSTITUTION WHERE WHEN WE HAVE TO DONATE AT A MINIMUM OF 4 $10,000 TO GET YOUR NAME ON THE WALL BECAUSE FOR THESE 5 STUDENTS AND FOR THESE IMMIGRANTS, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE 6 CLEARLY ALMOST AT THE POVERTY LEVEL, TO RAISE A THOUSAND 7 DOLLARS IS EQUIVALENT TO 10, 20, $30,000 FOR MANY PEOPLE 8 WHO HAVE JOBS. 9 SO TO RECOGNIZE THAT EFFORT, I THINK IT IS SO 10 IMPORTANT. AND TO SEND THAT MESSAGE BECAUSE WE ARE A 11 COMMUNITY COLLEGE. AND THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT WE ARE 12 GRATEFUL THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO RAISE MONEY. 13 I THINK, VIRGINIA, FOR THE SMALL DONOR FUND 14 RAISER THAT WE HAD ON DECEMBER THE 16TH, IS UP TO HOW MUCH 15 NOW APPROXIMATELY? 16 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: $446,000. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: $446,000 FOR A SMALL DONOR EVENT 18 IN ONE NIGHT. 19 YES, AND THIS IS MOSTLY FROM, OF COURSE, THE 20 COMMUNITY COLLEGE FAMILY, BUT ALSO STUDENTS, IMMIGRANTS, 21 AND SOME PEOPLE, CLEARLY AT THE POVERTY LEVEL. IT IS 22 VERY, VERY EXCITING. 23 AND SO THIS IS BASICALLY, THIS RESOLUTION IS 24 ANOTHER WAY OF RECOGNIZING THAT EFFORT AND THAT BELIEF IN 25 CITY COLLEGE AND THIS CAMPUS WHICH IS RISING UP. MARCH 22, 2012 102 1 AND I USE THIS WORD CONSISTENTLY, THAT IT RISES 2 UP AND IS A BEACON OF HOPE IN AN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. IT 3 IS A BEACON OF HOPE THAT LIFE CAN BE BETTER THROUGH 4 EDUCATION. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS ABOUT. 5 IT'S THAT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY WE ARE SAYING, THANK YOU, 6 THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 7 BECAUSE I, MYSELF, I'M INVOLVED IN A MAJOR DONOR 8 CAMPAIGN RECOGNIZING THAT THE STATE IS NOT GOING TO HAVE 9 THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE CAMPUS. THERE'S NO DOUBT. THAT 10 ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED NOW. THE TEMPLATE 11 HAS CHANGED. WE NEED TO RAISE THE MONEY WITHIN THE 12 COMMUNITIES NOW. 13 SO I, MYSELF, AM INVOLVED IN HOPING TO RAISE 14 ENOUGH MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE CAMPUS FAR INTO THE FUTURE, 15 BUT THIS IS REGARDING THE SMALL DONOR CAMPAIGN. AND THE 16 DONOR WALL IS A MESSAGE SAYING, YES, YOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS 17 REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE STUDENTS, AND THAT'S THE REASON 18 WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO PASS THIS. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: CAN I ASK A QUESTION TO TRUSTEE 20 WONG. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: IF SOMEBODY WERE TO CONTRIBUTE 23 $20, $50 WHERE WOULD THEY SHOW UP ON THIS WALL? 24 TRUSTEE WONG: WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE AT 25 LEAST $1,000 BECAUSE OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK THERE MARCH 22, 2012 103 1 WOULDN'T BE ANY WALL SPACE LEFT. BUT I THINK AT A CERTAIN 2 POINT IN TIME WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ALSO THINK ABOUT THE 3 FACT THAT IF PEOPLE WANTED TO LET'S SAY DONATE 4 INCREMENTALLY, THAT BY THE TIME THEY REACH A THOUSAND 5 DOLLAR LEVEL, LET'S SAY, THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT 6 CONSIDER THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A NAME ON A WALL SOMEWHERE. 7 I THINK RIGHT NOW THIS RESOLUTION IS ALMOST LIKE 8 THE GESTURE OF SAYING, THANK YOU. AND IT'S IMPORTANT 9 BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR STUDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS 10 KIND OF AFFIRMATION. YOU KNOW, IT'S ADMIRABLE. IT'S 11 ADMIRABLE. AND IT'S IMPORTANT. 12 AND ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE REALLY DO DEPEND ON 13 THE KINDNESS OF OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY NOW AND NOT THE 14 STATE OF CALIFORNIA, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE NEW 15 REALITY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 17 TRUSTEE NGO: DID THIS HAVE TO GO THROUGH SHARED 18 GOVERNANCE AT ALL? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS IT NOT -- IT'S NOT MARKED? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T KNOW. 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: IT'S MARKED "NO." 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S MARKED "NO" I GUESS. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: IT WAS -- IT WAS PUT THROUGH 24 SHARED GOVERNANCE BY I GUESS IT WAS -- 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I REMEMBER US HAVING -- I REMEMBER MARCH 22, 2012 104 1 US HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT A DONOR POLICY. IT WAS 2 SUPPOSED TO FIT INTO A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR DONATIONS. AND 3 I THINK IT ALSO HAD TO DO WITH NAMING RIGHTS AND ALSO AS 4 IT RELATES TO STRUCTURES, THE COLLEGE STRUCTURES. 5 AND I REMEMBER I THINK IT WAS SHARED GOVERNANCE 6 OR -- NOT SHARED GOVERNANCE, BUT MAYBE JUST THE ACADEMIC 7 SENATE THAT HAD A VERY STRONG POSITION ABOUT HAVING IT GO 8 THROUGH SOME SORT OF PROCEDURE OR DELIBERATION. SO -- 9 TRUSTEE WONG: ACTUALLY, I THINK -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN I -- LET ME -- CAN I 11 FINISH? 12 TRUSTEE WONG: GO AHEAD. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 14 I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I JUST DON'T THINK IT 15 SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY SHARED GOVERNANCE BODY. BUT 16 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE, TRUSTEE 17 WONG, THAT IT SHOULD GO THROUGH A SHARED GOVERNANCE BODY. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: I REALLY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT 19 GOING THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE 20 ARE A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. AND SHARED GOVERNANCE IS PART OF 21 OUR FAMILY, AND WE NEED TO GET THAT INPUT. 22 I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE SHARED GOVERNANCE -- I 23 THINK THAT -- I ASKED THAT IT WOULD -- I ACTUALLY ASKED 24 THAT IT WAS PUT THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE, PERHAPS IT WAS 25 NOT, BUT WHEN I SAW THE CHECKMARK THAT SAYS, "NO," I MARCH 22, 2012 105 1 ASSUMED SHARED GOVERNANCE DECIDED IT WAS NOT SOMETHING 2 THAT WASN'T IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO REVIEW OR HAVE ANY 3 CONCERNS ABOUT. 4 IN TERMS OF THE NAMING OPPORTUNITIES, THAT NEEDS 5 TO BE -- IT NEEDS TO BE FORTHCOMING. THIS IS JUST A DONOR 6 WALL SAYING, YES, THERE WILL BE A DONOR WALL. 7 THE NAMING OPPORTUNITY, ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO 8 BE I THINK, NEEDS TO BE IN ANOTHER RESOLUTION. IT NEEDS 9 TO BE WORKED THROUGH THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE PERHAPS. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU FOR -- 11 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: -- CLARIFYING YOUR POSITION ON 13 THAT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, IN THE "THEREFORE BE IT 16 RESOLVED," IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IT WILL HAVE TO BE 17 "THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, THE CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 18 FRANCISCO BOARD OF TRUSTEES COMMENDS THE CHINATOWN/NORTH 19 BEACH CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION FOR TAKING ALL STEPS 20 NECESSARY" IF YOU WANT TO DO IT. 21 OR YOU COULD SAY, "IT RECOMMENDS THE 22 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION TAKE ALL STEPS 23 NECESSARY." SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS MEANT. IT COULD BE 24 EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO MEANINGS. 25 SO THE AUTHORS DO YOU WANT -- MARCH 22, 2012 106 1 LAWRENCE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY -- BECAUSE THIS 2 MAKES NO SENSE. IT CAN EITHER SAY THE TRUSTEES 3 COMMENDS -- 4 TRUSTEE WONG: -- TO TAKE ALL STEPS NECESSARY. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: COMMENDS. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: OR RECOMMENDS. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: NO COMMENDS. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OR RECOMMENDS OR COMMENDS. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: IT CAN BE EITHER THAT "RECOMMENDS 10 THE CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS" -- 11 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT ABOUT TO MANAGE AND 12 RECOMMENDS? 13 TRUSTEE BERG: -- "TAKE ALL STEPS." LET'S JUST 14 DO IT OFFLINE, OKAY. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT -- I'LL WRITE 15 IT OUT FOR YOU. YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO CHOICES. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: I KNOW, BUT WE NEED TO PASS IT. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, I WANT YOU TO PASS IT. 18 OKAY, SO WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? 19 "THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES COMMENDS THE 20 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION FOR TAKING ALL 21 STEPS NECESSARY TO HAVE CONSTRUCTED AND INSTALLED A DONOR 22 WALL," OKAY? 23 OR "TAKING ALL STEPS NECESSARY." 24 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, THAT'S FINE. I ACCEPT 25 THAT. MARCH 22, 2012 107 1 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S JUST GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU READ THAT ONCE YOU 7 FINISH WRITING IT? 8 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, IT'S JUST "THEREFORE BE IT 9 RESOLVED, THE CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF 10 TRUSTEES COMMENDS THE CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS 11 ADMINISTRATION FOR TAKING ALL STEPS NECESSARY TO HAVE 12 CONSTRUCTED AND INSTALLED A DONOR WALL," ET CETERA, ET 13 CETERA, ET CETERA. 14 SO NOW IT MAKES SENSE GRAMMATICALLY. OKAY? 15 TRUSTEE WONG: ESL INSTRUCTOR. SHE WAS A FORMER 16 ESL INSTRUCTOR. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, WELL -- AND ENGLISH. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AND ENGLISH INSTRUCTOR. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION TO 20 MAKE THERE OR IS THAT JUST A TYPOGRAPHIC. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK IT IS A FRIENDLY 22 AMENDMENT. 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH, IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S A FRIENDLY A AMENDMENT, ISN'T 25 IT? MARCH 22, 2012 108 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH, IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT 2 TO THE -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT SOMEONE TO MOVE IT 4 THEN? 5 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, I THINK HE FEELS IT'S A 6 FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, SO IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE MOVED. 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT COULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE 8 PERSON WHO WROTE THE -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: HE DID, YEAH. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I THINK -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I THINK RODGER SCOTT HAD A 13 SUGGESTION ABOUT FACULTY AND STUDENTS. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO 15 PUBLIC COMMENT YET. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK 17 THAT WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT -- 19 WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS AS WELL WHO WANT TO SPEAK. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN I JUST MAKE THAT REQUEST? 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE 22 JACKSON. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WAS JUST LIKE PUT IT IN MARCH 22, 2012 109 1 THERE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. I SEE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. 5 YOU DON'T WANT TO SEND IT TO SHARED GOVERNANCE EVEN THOUGH 6 YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE INPUT. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT IT DID GO 8 THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IF IT DID NOT, DO YOU WANT TO 10 WANT TO SEND IT THERE FIRST? 11 TRUSTEE WONG: I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THIS 12 GOING THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: DO YOU WANT TO SEND IT THERE 14 FIRST? 15 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT I THINK THERE IS A 16 REPRESENTATIVE HERE. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I MEAN -- 18 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, AGAIN, I THOUGHT IT WENT 19 THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. AND I NEED TO HEAR WHETHER OR 20 NOT IT DID OR NOT. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, GO AHEAD. I MEAN -- 22 TRUSTEE WONG: KAREN. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. 24 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 25 PRESIDENT. MARCH 22, 2012 110 1 THE HAVING A DONOR WALL WAS PART OF THE PLAN FOR 2 THE BUILDING. AND SO IT WENT THROUGH THE SHARED 3 GOVERNANCE PROCESS WITH FACILITIES AND SO FORTH. I 4 REMEMBER HEARING ABOUT THAT AS ONE OF THE STAGES OF THE 5 DESIGN IN THE BUILDING. THAT WENT THROUGH SHARED 6 GOVERNANCE. 7 THE PUTTING OF INDIVIDUAL NAMES ON THE TILES ON 8 THE DONOR WALL DOES NOT SEEM TO ME TO BE SOMETHING THAT 9 NEEDS TO GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. WE ARE ALWAYS 10 HAPPY TO SEE THINGS LIKE THAT IN COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL 11 SO WE CAN SAY WHAT A GREAT IDEA. WE REALLY LIKE THIS. 12 PLEASE DO THIS FOR THINGS OF THIS NATURE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, THAT'S FINE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WOULD YOU LIKE FOR IT TO GO TO 15 COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL? 16 TRUSTEE WONG: I ACCEPT THAT ANSWER BECAUSE I 17 THINK IT IS MORE IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW FOR THIS TO MOVE 18 FORWARD TO SEND A MESSAGE -- 19 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: -- TO THE -- IT'S BEEN -- 21 DECEMBER THE 16TH WAS THE EVENT. AND NOW WE ARE INTO THE 22 END OF MARCH. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I -- 24 TRUSTEE WONG: SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO SEND A 25 CERTAIN MESSAGE TO SAY THANK YOU. FINALLY, THANK YOU. MARCH 22, 2012 111 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET ME JUST -- HOLD ON. LET 3 ME JUST CLARIFY THAT AS AMENDED, THE RESOLUTION IS 4 COMMENDING THE ADMINISTRATION. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ENACTING 5 ANYTHING. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT LOOKS 7 LIKE THERE IS A -- THERE IS GOING TO BE A STRUCTURE THAT'S 8 GOING TO BE PLACED ON THE BUILDING WITH SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. 9 AND I RECALL FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS, COMMITTEE MEETINGS, 10 THAT SHARED GOVERNANCE HAD A VITAL INTEREST, I'D SAY 11 UNREASONABLE ONE, IN NAMING POLICIES AND PUTTING THINGS UP 12 ON WALLS AND OTHERWISE STRUCTURES WITH SPONSORSHIPS AND 13 WHATNOT DONORS ON THINGS. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. 14 AND I THINK I HAVE -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR 15 POSITION. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, I THINK THAT -- I THINK IN 17 GENERAL, I THINK THE PRESIDENT OF ACADEMIC SENATE -- I 18 MEAN THE SHARED GOVERNANCE DID SAY IT DID GO THROUGH THE 19 PROCESS, BUT NOT THIS SPECIFIC RESOLUTION PERHAPS. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT IT SATISFIES ME IN THAT 22 SPIRITUAL SUPPORT IN SPIRIT FOR IT. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S FINE. I HAVE A ANOTHER 24 QUESTION ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE LANGUAGE. I AM NOT -- 25 WHEN YOU SAY -- AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS BY THE WAY. I MARCH 22, 2012 112 1 JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS PROCESS WORKED OUT 2 ACCORDING TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE SHOULD DO THINGS 3 HERE. 4 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, I WANT IT TO BE 5 CLEAR AS TO THE LAST CLAUSE WHICH SAYS, "AND ALL DONORS 6 WHO CONTRIBUTED ONE THOUSAND OR MORE TO HELP CITY COLLEGE 7 CONSTRUCT AND FURNISH THE NEW CITY COLLEGE CHINATOWN/NORTH 8 BEACH CAMPUS." 9 DID THE $1,000 DONATION HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY BE 10 RESTRICTED TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE FURNISHING OR THE 11 FURNISHING AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAMPUS? 12 WHAT IF SOMEBODY JUST GAVE A $1,000 TO A 13 LIBRARY -- THE LIBRARY COLLECTION, FOR EXAMPLE. DOES THAT 14 INCLUDE THAT DONATION AS WELL? 15 AND I DON'T THINK YOU MEAN FOR THESE TO HAVE -- 16 I DON'T THINK YOU REQUIRE TWO ELEMENTS OF CONSTRUCTION AND 17 FURNISHING. I THINK THE ALTERNATIVE ELEMENTS. BUT I JUST 18 WANT TO CLARIFY SO THAT WE RESPECT ALL THE DONORS WHO HAVE 19 GIVEN THAT AMOUNT. 20 I MEAN I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO HAVE THIS 21 RESOLUTION SOONER. WE ARE DEALING WITH IT NOW. I DIDN'T 22 DRAFT IT OR BRING IT UP. BUT I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY WHAT 23 YOU MEAN BY THAT LAST CLAUSE BECAUSE IT COULD INCLUDE A 24 LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, INCLUDING JUST CASH I PRESUME, 25 RIGHT. WHETHER IT IS FOR FURNISHING OR CONSTRUCTION, IT MARCH 22, 2012 113 1 COULD BE FOR MAY BE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD GIVE 2 SCHOLARSHIPS TO A SPECIFIC BUILDING OR FOR A 3 WHATCHAMACALLIT AN ENDOWED POSITION, AN ENDOWMENT FOR 4 PROFESSORSHIP OR WHATEVER. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT. 5 SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU JUST MEAN FOR ANY 6 KIND OF CONSTRUCTION OBJECT OR ACTUAL BUILDING OF IT AS 7 WELL AS FURNITURE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: I THINK THAT THE INTENT OF THOSE 9 WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED THUS FAR HAS BEEN TO -- WITHOUT BEING 10 VERY SPECIFIC, THE INTENT WAS TO CONTRIBUTE AN AMOUNT OF 11 MONEY THAT WOULD HELP THE CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS. 12 NOW WHETHER OR NOT THE DONOR WAS THINKING THAT 13 IT SHOULD GO FOR THE LIBRARY OR THE CULINARY PROGRAM OR AN 14 ENDOWMENT OR A SCHOLARSHIP, I WOULD NOT KNOW. AND I KNOW 15 THAT YOU WANT MORE SPECIFICITY IN THIS RESOLUTION, BUT 16 UNLESS YOU WANT TO CRAFT LANGUAGE THAT'S MORE -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I DO HAVE LANGUAGE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: -- ALL INCLUSIVE -- 19 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THEN I AM OPEN TO THAT. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, SO I THINK YOU SHOULD -- 22 TRUSTEE WONG: I WOULD NOT KNOW -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR PURPOSE 24 FIRST BEFORE I ACTUALLY OFFER THE LANGUAGE, SO I THINK I 25 HEARD YOUR INTENT. MARCH 22, 2012 114 1 WHAT I SUGGEST WE DO IS JUST DELETE "CONSTRUCT 2 AND FURNISH" AND JUST REPLACE IT WITH THE WORD "TOWARD." 3 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. THAT'S FINE. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: FURNISH THE -- TOWARD THE -- 5 ACTUALLY YEAH, THOSE THREE WORDS. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THAT, 7 THE REASON I THINK CONSTRUCTION IS IN THERE IS BECAUSE 8 THE -- WE WANTED TO THANK THE CITIZENS OF SAN FRANCISCO 9 AND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. 10 THIS IS SOMETHING I HAD BROUGHT UP BEFORE AND 11 THE REASON IT IS IN HERE IS BECAUSE THE TAXPAYERS OF SAN 12 FRANCISCO AND CALIFORNIA ARE ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST DONORS, 13 AND THEY PAID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. AND IT WAS -- I WOULD 14 LIKE TO SEE THEM NOTED ON THE WALL, WHICH IS -- AND THAT'S 15 WHY IT IS ON HERE. 16 SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE CONSTRUCTION OUT OF IT 17 BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BIGGEST DONORS OF THE PROJECT, THE 18 TAXPAYERS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE CONSTRUCTION. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: IF I MAY -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THE WORD -- 21 TRUSTEE WONG: -- PRESIDENT RIZZO, I AGREE WITH 22 YOU. I DON'T THINK THAT THE WORD "TOWARDS" WOULD EXCLUDE 23 THAT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE WORD WHAT? 25 TRUSTEE WONG: THE WORD "TOWARDS" -- MARCH 22, 2012 115 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TOWARDS. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THAT TRUSTEE NGO IS 3 RECOMMENDING. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD EXCLUDE 6 THAT. I THINK IT IS MORE INCLUSIVE. I THINK THAT PERHAPS 7 WE'RE -- I THINK THAT TRUSTEE NGO'S CONCERN WAS THAT WE 8 WERE JUST RESTRICTING OURSELVES TO CONSTRUCTION AND 9 FURNISH, WHEREAS SOMEBODY CAN IN THEIR MINDS BE DONATING A 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS OR $10,000 OR LET'S SAY SOME ENDOWMENT OR 11 WHATEVER. SO I THINK THAT THE WORD "TOWARDS" WOULD BE 12 MORE INCLUSIVE AND WOULD INCLUDE -- 13 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU'LL HAVE TO CHANGE THE WHOLE 14 SENTENCE IF YOU USE TOWARDS. YOU CAN'T DO THE SAME 15 SENTENCE. 16 UNKNOWN SPEAKER: CONSTRUCT AND OR -- 17 TRUSTEE WONG: DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? 18 UNKNOWN SPEAKER: JUST A SUGGESTION THAT WOULD 19 COVER BOTH. SOME ARE JUST CONTRIBUTING TO THE 20 CONSTRUCTION, SOME TO THE FURNISHINGS. YOU COULD SAY, 21 "CONSTRUCT AND/OR FURNISH" SO THAT WOULD COVER EITHER END. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT ABOUT CONSTRUCT? 23 TRUSTEE BERG: CONSTRUCT AND/OR FURNISH. YOU DO 24 ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: WHY NOT CONSTRUCT, FURNISH OR MARCH 22, 2012 116 1 TOWARDS? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, NO, NO. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: WOULD THAT BE -- 4 TRUSTEE BERG: JUST SAY, "AND/OR" THAT'S FINE. 5 UNKNOWN SPEAKER: I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK THESE 6 A REAL GOOD -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I HAVE TO SAY I BELIEVE 9 THAT I THINK WE ARE MAKING THIS MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT 10 IS. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU ARE RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, WE ARE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THIS IS TOTAL POLICY 14 THAT -- THIS RESOLUTION IS FAUX PAS. THE EVENT IS ALREADY 15 DONE. THE MONEY HAS ALREADY DONATED FOR A SPECIFIC 16 PURPOSE TO MAKE SURE WE CLOSE THE GAP ON THE FUNDING FOR 17 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS. SO THIS IS TO COMMEND THAT. 18 AND THAT I THINK, AS IT IS, WOULD BE OKAY. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: I AGREE. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WE ARE WORDSMITHING FOR 21 FUTURE ANTICIPATION, BUT THIS AS IT IS. SO THAT'S ALL. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, YOU ARE RIGHT. THAT'S 23 TRUE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I THOUGHT THIS INCLUDED MORE THAN 25 JUST DONATIONS FROM THAT EVENT. I THOUGHT THIS INCLUDED MARCH 22, 2012 117 1 DONATIONS -- 2 TRUSTEE WONG: ALSO -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: IT WASN'T JUST FOR THE EVENT. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: -- ULTIMATELY -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S FROM THE TAXPAYERS. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I JUST -- 7 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, IT'S ALSO 400,000 FROM MY 8 AUNT -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, SO -- 10 TRUSTEE WONG: -- ALSO. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, SO IT WAS -- YOU KNOW, I 12 WANT TO -- I DON'T KNOW WHY THE WORD "TOWARDS" IS SO -- 13 TRUSTEE WONG: I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT IT'S 14 WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES. I MEAN I JUST WANT TO GET IT 15 PASSED SO THAT WE CAN AGREE AND SAY -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU CAN ACCEPT AS -- YOU CAN 17 ACCEPT IT AS -- 18 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU CAN ACCEPT IT AS A FRIENDLY -- 20 AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IF YOU'D LIKE. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: JUST TAKE IT. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S FINE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: DID YOU GET THAT, COUNSEL? MARCH 22, 2012 118 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: SO IT'S GOING TO NOW READ -- 2 TRUSTEE WONG: I'LL JUST ACCEPT IT. 3 COUNSEL DICKEY: "ALL DONORS WHO CONTRIBUTED 4 $1,000 OR MORE TOWARDS THE NEW CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH 5 CAMPUS." 6 IS THAT NEAR -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I INTENDED. 8 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT SOUNDS FINE. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: DO YOU ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THAT ALL RIGHT? 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: -- TRUSTEE WONG? 13 TRUSTEE WONG: CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, I'M SORRY I 14 WAS -- 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: THE FINAL CLAUSE THERE WILL 16 READ "ALL DONORS WHO CONTRIBUTE 1,000 OR MORE TO HELP CITY 17 COLLEGE" -- I'M SORRY. "ALL DONORS WHO CONTRIBUTE $1,000 18 OR MORE TOWARDS THE NEW CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS." 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO CAN WE TAKE THIS AS ONE 20 AMENDMENT, TRUSTEE BERG -- 21 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- SAYING, ADMINISTRATION -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YES, IT'S ALL FRIENDLY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- BEFORE TAKING ALL STEPS. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S ALL FRIENDLY. MARCH 22, 2012 119 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO -- 2 COUNSEL DICKEY: SO WE'LL JUST -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I WANT TO SAY I THINK THIS IS 4 IMPORTANT. THE DONATIONS ARE IMPORTANT. THE 5 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CAMPUS ARE IMPORTANT. AND IF WE ARE 6 GOING TO HONOR IT WITH WORDS IN STONE, YOU SHOULD THINK 7 ABOUT THE WORDS WE USE. SO I WANT TO -- IT'S NOT 8 FRIVOLOUS TO ME. 9 AND I WANT TO CAPTURE EVERY CONTRIBUTION. 10 IDEALLY, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE UNDER 1,000, BUT YOU KNOW 11 IF THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION SPONSORS WANT TO HAVE IT AT 12 1,000, THAT'S FINE. BUT I WANT TO HONOR ALL THOSE 13 CONTRIBUTIONS. 14 AND AS I SAID, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A WASTE OF 15 TIME. I THINK WE ARE HONORING THOSE DONATIONS BY SPENDING 16 THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE WORDS IN A WISER, THOUGHTFUL 17 WAY. 18 AND I THANK THE SPONSORS AND THE ORIGINATOR, 19 TRUSTEE WONG, FOR ACCEPTING MY AMENDMENT TO THIS LANGUAGE. 20 THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? 23 WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT, 24 THE WORDING CHANGE. 25 DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK TO THE WORDING CHANGE? MARCH 22, 2012 120 1 OKAY, THAT'S JANE FREED. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SNEED. 3 MS. SNEED: HELLO, THIS IS JANE SNEED. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SNEED. SORRY. 5 MS. SNEED: AND I AM THE SECRETARY TO THE DCC, 6 SO I HEAR THESE WORDSMITHING THINGS A LOT. SO I THOUGHT I 7 WOULD PUT IN MY TWO CENTS. I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU LIKE 8 THE WORD CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU, 9 SO -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M OKAY. 11 MS. SNEED: I AM SUGGESTING THAT YOU SAY, "1,000 12 OR MORE TO HELP CITY COLLEGE CONSTRUCT, FURNISH OR SUPPORT 13 THE NEW CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS." 14 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S GOOD. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 18 TRUSTEE WONG: I JUST WANT TO GET IT PASSED. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 20 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE -- 21 WELL, DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT TO THAT OR -- 22 TRUSTEE WONG: NO, NO, I MEAN -- I THINK WE ARE 23 ALMOST -- 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BELABORING -- 25 TRUSTEE WONG: I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PASS THIS MARCH 22, 2012 121 1 SO -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANTED TO BE ADDED AS A 4 CO-SPONSOR. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S FINE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOW WE ARE VOTING ON THE 8 AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW, OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK IF IT'S A FRIENDLY 11 AMENDMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, DO YOU? 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: (INAUDIBLE.) 13 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, WE'RE JUST -- 15 TRUSTEE WONG: NO, IT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: HE ACCEPTED THE CHANGES. 17 COUNSEL DICKEY: HE HAS ACCEPTED THE CHANGES, SO 18 THE MOTION MOVES NOW TO -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL -- WE WILL CALL THESE 20 TECHNICAL OR CORRECTIONS, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY NO SUCH 21 THING AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IN ROBERTS RULES. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: GOOD TO KNOW. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: JUST FOR THE FUTURE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: URBAN LEGEND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, IT IS AN URBAN LEGEND. MARCH 22, 2012 122 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS 4 HERE ON THE MOTION THEN. 5 JOHN TANG. 6 MR. TANG: ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT 7 RIZZO, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS. 8 ACTUALLY, I INITIALLY I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT 9 THIS. BUT NOW THANK YOU ALL FOR PASSING THE RESOLUTION TO 10 RECOGNIZE THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAVE GIVEN TO THE CAMPAIGN. 11 AND AS TRUSTEE WONG MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS 12 REALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW. ESPECIALLY IN THIS BUDGET 13 CRISIS SITUATION, EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR DONATION TO REALLY 14 LIKE APPRECIATE FROM THE COUNCIL -- I MEAN FROM THE 15 SCHOOL. 16 AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND I HELPED 17 SUPPORT WITH THAT. AND NOW I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR -- I 18 APPRECIATE FOR YOU TO PASS THE RESOLUTION AND TO REALLY 19 ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONTRIBUTION AND PEOPLE TO REALLY BRING 20 THIS MONEY IN AND HELP THE SCHOOL. THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 WILLIAM WALKER. 23 MR. WALKER: I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF. IT'S HARD. 24 BUT THE BEAUTY OF SHARED GOVERNANCE IS THAT 25 THESE LITTLE DETAILS COULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN A MARCH 22, 2012 123 1 MEETING. AND THE WORDSMITHING, THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO DO 2 IS TAKE THINGS APART AND THEN BRING IT TO YOU AND MAKE IT 3 ALL PRETTY. 4 I WILL SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION. I 5 CAME FROM GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM, BOARD WORK WITH ALL 6 (INAUDIBLE) ADVOCATE, ACLU, KPFA, LOTS OF DONOR WALLS, 7 LOTS OF CAMPAIGNS. AND IT'S SAD THAT WE HAVE TO COME TO 8 THE REALITY THAT THE STATE NO LONGER FUNDS OUR SCHOOLS. 9 AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HASTEN OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT, 10 AND IF PEOPLE ARE DIGGING IN THEIR POCKETS TO DEAL DO WHAT 11 TAXES USED TO DO 30 YEARS AGO, THEN BY ALL MEANS, PUT UP 12 WALLS, LIKE LET THEM HAVE EVERY WALL. IF WE COULD GET 13 MONEY TO HELP RETAIN THIS INSTITUTION, DO IT. 14 AND LASTLY, THINK ABOUT WALLPAPER. YOU COULD 15 PUT WALLPAPER WITH PEOPLE'S NAMES ON THE DIFFERENT 16 CLASSES. I MEAN IT'S JUST AN IDEA. I MEAN MAYBE IT'S NOT 17 THE BEST. YOU COULD DO A WEBSITE THAT HAS A LIVING WALL 18 WITH PEOPLE'S NAMES ON IT. I MEAN THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU 19 CAN DO FOR FOLKS THAT GIVE LESS THAN $1,000, SO LET'S KEEP 20 TALKING ABOUT IT. THANKS. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YEAH. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DAVID TRUONG. 24 I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY. 25 MR. TRUONG: GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT RIZZO, MARCH 22, 2012 124 1 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. 2 MY NAME IS DAVID TRUONG, AND I AM FROM THE VIETNAMESE 3 STUDENT ASSOCIATION. 4 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE DONOR WALL 5 IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT OUR COLLEGE 6 RECOGNIZES AND APPRECIATES THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE 7 COMMUNITY. AND IT TOOK MORE THAN 30 YEARS TO BUILD THE 8 CAMPUS AND THE COLLEGE SHOULD NOT DISAPPOINT THE COMMUNITY 9 ON THIS SMALL RECOGNITION. THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 STEVEN NGO. AND IT'S NOT THE TRUSTEE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO IMPLODE. 13 DON'T TOUCH ME. 14 MR. NGO: ALL RIGHT. ANYWAY, GOOD EVENING -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: HE IS MUCH MORE HANDSOME THAN I 16 AM. 17 MR. NGO: -- PRESIDENT RIZZO, TRUSTEES, AND 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. 19 SO, YEAH, AGAIN, THANKS A LOT FOR PASSING THE 20 RESOLUTION. AND THE REASON WAS -- I WAS AT A FUNDRAISING 21 TO THE CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS. AND I WAS REALLY 22 SURPRISED THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STUDENTS, FACULTY, AND, 23 YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WORKING SO HARD GOT 24 TOGETHER AND MADE A SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN BEING IN SUCH A 25 SHORT TIME, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. MARCH 22, 2012 125 1 AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OUR VIETNAMESE STUDENT 2 ASSOCIATION, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING SO HARD. WE ARRANGED 3 FOOD SALE. YOU KNOW, ASKING FAMILY, FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, 4 WHATEVER WE COULD DO TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, GATHER 5 ALL THE MONEY. WE CAN DONATE FOR THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS. 6 SO THE REASON WE DON'T REALLY WANT ALL THE 7 PROBLEM NOW FOR INDIVIDUAL NAME ON DONOR WALL, BUT WE JUST 8 WANT TO MAKE A BETTER EDUCATION. THANKS FOR YOU PASSING 9 THE RESOLUTION AGAIN. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 12 SEEING NONE, WE WILL VOTE. 13 MR. SCOTT: I NEED TO REPEAT MY COMMENT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. 15 MR. SCOTT: OKAY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A CARD 17 WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE. 18 MR. SCOTT: I WILL DO THAT. IF YOU WILL TRUST 19 ME, I WILL DO IT AFTERWARD. THANK YOU. 20 OBVIOUSLY -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 22 MR. SCOTT: RODGER SCOTT, LONG-TIME CITY COLLEGE 23 INSTRUCTOR, AFT MEMBER ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD. 24 ANYTIME WE COMMEND ANY GROUP, I THINK THAT 25 SHOULD BE INCLUSIVE IN THE SPIRIT OF THE RESOLUTION. SO I MARCH 22, 2012 126 1 THINK WE CERTAINLY NEED TO COMMEND THE FACULTY AND THE 2 STUDENTS, ALONG WITH OUR DISTINGUISHED ADMINISTRATORS. 3 MR. GABOR: AND CLASSIFIED STAFF ALSO. 4 MR. SCOTT: AND CLASSIFIED STAFF. I'M SORRY. 5 I'M SORRY. I STAND CORRECTED ON THAT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A 10 COMMENT. I SPOKE JUST BRIEFLY TO THE ORIGINATOR OF THE 11 RESOLUTION, LAWRENCE WONG. AND I ASKED HIM IF HE 12 REMEMBERED ALL THE TIMES THAT WE WERE IN THE CHINATOWN 13 BUILDING WHERE IT WAS ALWAYS COLD. THERE WAS A LOT OF 14 RAIN. AND I THINK TRYING TO GET INTO THAT PARKING LOT, A 15 LOT OF US WOULD GO REAL EARLY TRYING TO GET A PARKING 16 SPACE. AND I SCRATCHED MY CAR THAT TIME, AND I'VE NEVER 17 GOTTEN FIXED. 18 BUT ANYWAYS, THOSE WERE REALLY GOOD TIMES IN 19 TERMS OF PASSING THE BOND IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITIES 20 COMING OUT, GIVING INPUT, AND GIVING THANKS TO THE COLLEGE 21 IN TERMS OF BUILDING THIS BUILDING. AND IT'S JUST SO 22 WONDERFUL THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 23 AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY 24 NAME TO ONE OF THE ORIGINATORS. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: THANK YOU. MARCH 22, 2012 127 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 2 WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT. 3 ATTILA GABOR. 4 MR. GABOR: I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT PREVIOUS 5 COLLEAGUE OF MINE REMARKS, BUT HE FORGOT ONE MORE GROUP, 6 AND THAT IS THE CLASSIFIED. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THANK YOU. 8 ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 9 OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT THEN. 10 FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD? 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: JOHN. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE JACKSON. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF 14 PIGGYBACK ON TRUSTEES GRIER'S REMARKS. 15 YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE KIND OF DIVISIVENESS, YOU 16 KNOW, THAT LACK OF MONEY, LACK OF RESOURCES AS CREATED IN 17 THIS COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, AMAZING TO 18 SEE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, AND 19 SUPPORT THIS COLLEGE. YOU KNOW AFTER THE DIVISIVENESS -- 20 THE COLLEGE ITSELF WAS VERY DIVISIVE. AND IT'S REALLY 21 NICE TO SEE THAT WE'VE EVOLVED AND, YOU KNOW, NOW WE ARE 22 ALL ON ONE PAGE SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, THIS CAMPUS. 23 AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK TRUSTEE WONG FOR HIS 24 VERY DOGGED SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, OF THIS COMMUNITY AND OF 25 THE CAMPUS. AND I WANT TO THANK THE STUDENTS, AND THE MARCH 22, 2012 128 1 FACULTY, CLASSIFIED, YOU KNOW, AND THE STUDENTS FOR JUST 2 COMING TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY SUPPORTING, YOU 3 KNOW, GETTING OUT THERE ASKING FOR $2, $5, YOU KNOW, 4 BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS $10,000. AND IT'S REALLY GREAT 5 TO SEE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A GRASSROOTS, YOU KNOW, 6 CAMPUS. AND THAT'S REALLY A MODEL THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES 7 CAN LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE TO, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY GET 8 EDUCATION EQUALITY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN THEIR 9 COMMUNITIES. 10 SO THANK YOU, TRUSTEE WONG, FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON 11 THIS. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FURTHER DISCUSSION? 13 PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. I'M SORRY. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 15 MR. SCOTT: JUST PAYING MY DUES. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 17 YES, TRUSTEE NGO. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I AM VOTING FOR THIS, BUT I 19 ASSUME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF 20 ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE ACTUAL LABOR UNIONS WHO HAVE WORKED 21 TO BUILD THE CAMPUS. 22 IS THAT GOING TO BE A SEPARATE HONOR, THE MEN 23 AND WOMEN WHO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CONSTRUCTED THE CAMPUS 24 OR -- 25 TRUSTEE WONG: I -- MARCH 22, 2012 129 1 TRUSTEE NGO: DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT? 2 WE -- I MEAN THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WE 3 NEED TO THANK WHO HAVE EVEN HAD THIS DREAM FOR 30 YEARS, 4 AND MY WORKING ON IT FOR 17 YEARS, THAT I THINK THAT WE 5 NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO THANK 6 CLEARLY. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT THIS RESOLUTION REALLY IS 9 ABOUT THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY DONATED. 10 AND YOU KNOW IN THE FUTURE, WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER 11 RESOLUTION REGARDING -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: -- THE WORKERS -- 14 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: -- AND SO FORTH -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: -- EXCLUSIVE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: ONE LAST THING IS BEFORE YOU VOTE, 21 I HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING GIVEN A TOUR BY VICE 22 CHANCELLOR JOANNE LOW AND ED WESTLAND AT SWINERTON OF THE 23 CAMPUS. AND ANY OF THE TRUSTEES SHOULD TAKE UP THEIR 24 OFFERS, THEIR AVAILABILITY TO DO THAT. IT WAS A 25 BEAUTIFUL -- MARCH 22, 2012 130 1 TRUSTEE WONG: IT IS. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: -- EXPERIENCE. 3 MY WIFE, WHO GREW UP IN CHINATOWN, GOT TO THE 4 14TH FLOOR AND REMARKED THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN THE TOP OF 5 THESE BUILDINGS BEFORE IN CHINATOWN, EXCEPT FOR THAT VIEW 6 ON THE 14TH FLOOR SO THAT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE TOUR. 7 BUT I WANTED TO THANK THEM FOR THE TOUR. AND 8 ALSO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME BEFORE THE 9 CAMPUS IS OPENED THIS SPRING. THANK YOU. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: MR. PRESIDENT. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: HAS A SOURCE OF MONEY BEEN 13 IDENTIFIED FOR THIS WALL, THE DONOR WALL, AND HOW MUCH IS 14 IT GOING TO COST? 15 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 16 SOMEBODY IS COMING FORWARD TO -- AND JOANNE, YOU SHOULD 17 SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO IT. 18 VCAA LOW: SOMEONE HAS -- WILL HELP US WITH THE 19 DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION, AND IT WILL BE PRO BONO. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO WHO IS THAT? 21 VCAA LOW: JULIANNA CHOY. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, JULIANNA CHOY, YES. SHE HAS 23 HER DESIGN SIGN COMPANY. 24 VCAA LOW: SHE HAS HER OWN DESIGN SIGN COMPANY. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: SHE DID THE SIGNAGE FOR THE MARCH 22, 2012 131 1 DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. 2 I THINK IF I MAY, THROUGH THE CHAIR, THAT THIS 3 CAMPUS IS SO INSPIRING AND SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE 4 PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK WHO ARE WILLING TO OFFER 5 TO DO PRO BONO WORK, TO CONTRIBUTE MONEY, EVEN THOUGH THEY 6 CAN'T AFFORD TO. AND AGAIN, IT IS A BEACON OF HOPE AND IT 7 IS VERY INSPIRING. SO IT JUST CONTINUES ON, ALL THESE 8 POSITIVE VIBES. 9 I CALL FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK WE HAVE OTHER 10 RESOLUTIONS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA 12 AHEAD OF US. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 16 "AYE." 17 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 25 OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES. MARCH 22, 2012 132 1 THE NEXT ITEM IS B2, COUNSEL. 2 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM B2 -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHILE COUNSEL IS READYING IT, 4 I WILL JUST MENTION THAT THE FACILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE 5 TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE APPROVED THIS AND FORWARDED IT WITH 6 RECOMMENDATION. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WITH NO RECOMMENDATION. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WITH NO RECOMMENDATION. 9 THAT'S RIGHT. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM B2 -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. AND AS A RESULT OF THE 13 FOLLOW UP WORK THAT WE HAD -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. COULD YOU -- WELL, 15 LET'S WAIT FOR HIM TO READ IT. 16 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM B2 IS ENTITLED, 17 "AUTHORIZATION TO CONTRACT WITH LILIEN LLC FOR THE SERVER 18 AND STORAGE EQUIPMENT AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $30,000." 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT, AS A 21 FOLLOW UP TO OUR DISCUSSION AT THE FIT COMMITTEE, WHAT I 22 WILL REPORT TO YOU TONIGHT IS I AM, BASED ON MY 23 DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER, I AM 24 COMFORTABLE WITH THE FIRST TWO PARTS OF THIS RESOLUTION, 25 THE EVISIONS PAYROLL APPLICATION AND NETWORK SYSTEM MARCH 22, 2012 133 1 STORAGE SYSTEM -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- QUALIFYING FOR BEING CHARGED 4 AS PART OF OUR NETWORK COMPLETION UNDER OUR BOND PROGRAM. 5 BUT I AM NOT ACTUALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE THIRD 6 PART BEING DONE THAT WAY, PROCURVE MANAGEMENT APPLICATION. 7 SO I WOULD ASK FOR SOMEONE TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO 8 STRIKE THAT PROCURVE PARAGRAPH. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I ASK YOU WHY? 10 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY THE SAME 11 AS THE FIRST TWO PARTS. THE FIRST TWO PARTS IS WE ARE 12 ADDING SIGNIFICANT EQUIPMENT AND STORAGE TO THE NETWORK 13 AND THAT WE ARE REPOSITIONING SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE 14 NETWORK TO ANOTHER DESTINATION AND ANOTHER USE. SO WE ARE 15 ACTUALLY EXPANDING EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE NETWORK. 16 THE LAST ONE IS BASICALLY JUST DEALING WITH 17 SOMETHING THAT IS NOT UP TO SNUFF, AN UPGRADE AND IT'S 18 NOT -- IT REALLY STARTS TO MOVE OVER TOWARD MAINTENANCE 19 FRANKLY AS OPPOSED TO EXPANDING THE NETWORK. 20 BUT WE WILL LOOK FOR ANOTHER WAY TO PAY FOR THAT 21 AND, HOPEFULLY, WE COULD BRING THAT BACK TO FIT FOR 22 THE APRIL MEETING. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT SAYS HERE THAT THE UPGRADED 24 SOFTWARE HAS ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED AND REQUIRES NEW 25 SERVER HARDWARE TO COMPLETE THE INSTALLATION. MARCH 22, 2012 134 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE IT 2 UNTIL WE GET THE NEW SERVER HARDWARE, BUT WE ARE GOING TO 3 HAVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO PAY FOR THAT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WELL, AGAIN, BASED ON MY 6 CONVERSATION WITH DR. HOTCHKISS, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S 7 STILL HERE. 8 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO. 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE 10 HERE. 11 THIS PARTICULAR ITEM DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT THAT 12 SAME DEFINITION WE'VE TRIED TO CONSISTENTLY APPLY, WHICH 13 IS CONTINUED EXPANSION OF THE NETWORK. THIS SEEMS TO BE 14 MORE OF A REPLACEMENT MAINTENANCE ITEM. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I GUESS -- I MEAN WE HEARD AT 16 THE FIT COMMITTEE ONE OF OUR RETIRED, RECENTLY RETIRED, 17 I.T. PERSONNEL CLASSIFIED WORKER CAME AND EXPLAINED WHAT 18 THIS PROCURVE APPLICATION IS, AND HE THOUGHT IT WAS A 19 GOOD. IT WORKED WELL AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I AM NOT CHALLENGING THAT AT 21 ALL. I AM JUST SAYING I NEED TO FIND ANOTHER SOURCE OF 22 FUNDING FOR IT. AND THEN I WILL BRING IT BACK. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF FUNDING 24 FOR THE REST OF IT? 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE NETWORK PART OF THE BOND. MARCH 22, 2012 135 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE BOND. 2 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT WE ARE COMPLETING THE 3 NETWORK. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I SEE. 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I GET IT. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SO I WILL LOOK FOR ANOTHER 8 SOURCE OF FUNDING AND BRING THAT BACK TO FIT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO YOU WANT TO REMOVE THAT 10 THEN FROM THIS -- 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: EXACTLY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. THAT IT'S AMENDED 13 ACCORDINGLY. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THE AMENDMENT IS TO -- 15 THE MOTION IS TO REMOVE THE PARAGRAPH THAT STARTS, 16 "PROCURVE MANAGEMENT APPLICATION." 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? 19 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 21 OKAY, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO AMEND? 22 NO. 23 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MOTION TO 24 AMEND? 25 OKAY, SEEING NONE, STUDENT TRUSTEE. MARCH 22, 2012 136 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE 3 MOTION TO AMEND, SAY "AYE." 4 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 12 OKAY, THE RESOLUTION IS AMENDED. 13 IS THERE FURTHER COMMENT ON THE RESOLUTION 14 ITSELF? 15 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE RESOLUTION 16 ITSELF? 17 OKAY, SEEING NONE, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 18 COUNSEL DICKEY: WAS THERE A MOTION FOR THE ITEM 19 ITSELF? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I THOUGHT THERE WAS. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: THERE WAS. 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: I APOLOGIZE. I MISSED LOOKING 24 FOR THAT. OKAY. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE MARCH 22, 2012 137 1 PLEASE. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY "AYE." 4 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 12 OKAY, B2 IS APPROVED. 13 B5. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: B5 WAS CONSENT. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS MOVED FROM CONSENT. 16 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT WAS PULLED. 17 ITEM B5 IS ENTITLED, "RESOLUTION TO DETERMINE 18 AND FIND THAT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER PROJECT IS 19 SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLEX, AND TO INCREASE THE STATUTORY 20 MINIMUM RETENTION AMOUNTS." 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE 22 FIT COMMITTEE WITH A RECOMMENDATION. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHO 25 WANTED TO REMOVE THIS? MARCH 22, 2012 138 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DID. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU DID, OKAY. DO YOU HAVE 3 SOME QUESTIONS? 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, VICE CHANCELLOR. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO 7 APPROVE HERE IN B5 IS TO ALLOW US TO INCREASE THE 8 RETENTION. 9 IF YOU LOOK AT THE END, SECTION 3, "DISTRICT 10 HEREBY APPROVES PERIODIC RETENTION PROCEEDS TO BE WITHHELD 11 FROM THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTORS THAT MAKE EXCEED FIVE 12 PERCENT BUT SHALL NOT EXCEED TEN PERCENT. TOTAL RETENTION 13 SHALL NOT EXCEED TEN PERCENT." 14 THIS IS A LARGE PROJECT AND WILL INVOLVE LARGER 15 COMPANIES WORKING ON IT. AND SO WE HAVE AT TIMES USED THE 16 FIVE PERCENT RULE TO TRY TO BENEFIT THE SMALLER 17 BUSINESSES, BUT THAT IS NOT REALLY WHO WE EXPECT WILL BE 18 GETTING THE LARGE CONTRACT TO RUN THIS PROJECT. AND SO IN 19 ORDER TO HAVE NECESSARY LEVERAGE TO DEAL WITH FOLKS WHO 20 ARE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY, WHILE WE LOOK TO COMPLETE A 21 PROJECT. WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A TEN PERCENT RETENTION. 22 AND DAVID MAY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING. 23 MR. LIGGETT: YEAH, PETER GOLDSTEIN IS CORRECT. 24 DAVID LIGGETT, FACILITIES PLANNING UNIT. 25 THE LAW IN CALIFORNIA CHANGED ON JANUARY 1ST. MARCH 22, 2012 139 1 AND SO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE ON ALL OUR PROJECTS IS THE 2 TEN PERCENT RETENTION THAT PETER ELUDED TO REDUCED TO 3 FIVE PERCENT, 50 PERCENT THROUGH THE PROJECT. 4 ON JANUARY 1ST, STATE LAW WAS CHANGED AND THE 5 CEILING IS NOW FIVE PERCENT. UNLESS BY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION 6 OF THE GOVERNING BOARD, YOU FIND THAT THE PROJECT IS 7 SUFFICIENTLY COMPLEX THAT WE CAN WITHHOLD THE TEN PERCENT 8 AS WE HAVE CUSTOMLY DONE ON ALL PROJECTS IN THE LAST TEN 9 YEARS. THAT'S WHY THIS IS COMING TO YOU FOR THE FIRST 10 TIME BECAUSE OF A CHANGE OF LAW. 11 THIS WAS WRITTEN BY COUNSEL AND THEIR 12 RECOMMENDATION IS WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'VE DONE ON ALL 13 OF THE PROJECTS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: HOW WILL THIS IMPACT 15 MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES AND SMALLER CONTRACTORS? 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WELL, AS LONG AS WE CAN BE 17 TIMELY IN MAKING OUR PAYMENTS, IT REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE 18 MUCH IMPACT ON THEM. THIS REALLY WOULD FLOW THROUGH TO 19 THE END OF THE PROJECT. AND AS LONG AS WE ARE PAYING THE 20 BILLS ON TIME AS THE PROJECT PROGRESSES, I DON'T THINK IT 21 WOULD HAVE MUCH IMPACT. 22 MR. LIGGETT: AND AGAIN, THE TEN PERCENT 23 RETAINAGE OF THE MONTHLY PAYMENTS THAT ARE GIVEN TO THE 24 CONTRACTOR, THOSE TEN PERCENTS ARE HELD IN ESCROW 25 SOMEWHERE SO THEY ARE EARNING INTEREST, AND THEY ARE, YOU MARCH 22, 2012 140 1 KNOW, GIVEN BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR AT THE SUCCESSFUL 2 COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: WHICH IS GOING TO BE WHEN? THE 4 SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT. 5 MR. LIGGETT: THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 6 PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. SO THIS ACTION IS NOT A BROAD 7 RESOLUTION FOR -- 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: OH, NO, I KNOW THAT. 9 MR. LIGGETT: OH, SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 10 SPECIFICALLY -- 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: 2014. 12 MR. LIGGETT: 2014, YEAH. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: SO TELL ME IF I CAN TALK ABOUT 16 THIS OR NOT, BUT THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, THE PROJECT 17 MANAGER RFP, WHERE IS THAT RIGHT NOW? 18 MR. LIGGETT: WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING 19 THE CMGC. IT IS GOING THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW RIGHT NOW IN 20 TERMS OF THE BID DOCUMENT -- 21 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 22 MR. LIGGETT: -- IN WHICH THE CONTRACTORS WILL 23 ACTUALLY BID THE CMGC CONTRACT. AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO 24 GET THAT TO THE BOARD. WE ARE HOPING THIS SUMMER. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, THANK YOU. MARCH 22, 2012 141 1 MR. LIGGETT: WITH CONSTRUCTION TO START AUGUST, 2 SEPTEMBER SOME TIME. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WAS THERE ANY REVISION AS IT 4 PERTAINED TO LOCAL HIRE POLICY FOR THOSE BID DOCUMENTS 5 THAT YOU THOUGHT -- THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT. 6 MR. LIGGETT: WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 8 MR. LIGGETT: SO I AM NOT PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT 9 THAT TONIGHT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 11 MR. LIGGETT: BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, YES. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 13 MR. LIGGETT: AND THAT'S BEEN PART OF SOME OF 14 THE DELAY IN GETTING THIS WHOLE PROCESS MOVING ALONG IS TO 15 CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST AND HOW 16 WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 18 MR. LIGGETT: YES. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT 20 POINT THE PAST FEW MONTHS AT THE FIT COMMITTEE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 23 IS THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR B5? 24 OKAY, SEEING NONE, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. MARCH 22, 2012 142 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 10 B5 IS APPROVED. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO, BEFORE 12 WE CONSIDER THE NEXT RESOLUTION, I WOULD LIKE THE STUDENTS 13 STANDING IN THE BACK -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THEY REPRESENT EVENING 16 CLASS. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED BECAUSE OF THE 17 BUDGET CUTS THAT'S AFFECTING THEM, AND WE RARELY HEAR FROM 18 THEM. SO I JUST NEED TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CERTAINLY. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: RAISE YOUR HAND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU FOR COMING. 22 THANK YOU. 23 B6, COUNSEL. 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: B6 IS ENTITLED, "AUTHORIZATION 25 TO APPLY INDIRECT COST RATES OF 29.5 PERCENT ON-CAMPUS AND MARCH 22, 2012 143 1 4.7 PERCENT OFF-CAMPUS TO COMPETITIVE GRANT FUNDING." 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOW THIS IS -- I WILL JUST 3 MENTION, TRUSTEES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD ASKED THE 4 ADMINISTRATION FOR, POSSIBLY AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I 5 DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHERE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AUDIT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AUDIT COMMITTEE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: IN DECEMBER. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S CORRECT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: ACTUALLY, LATE DECEMBER. 13 CFO BILMONT: AND SO THE RESOLUTION -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. CAN YOU STATE YOUR 15 NAME? 16 CFO BILMONT: SURE. JOHN BILMONT, CHIEF 17 FINANCIAL OFFICER. THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE 18 COMPLETION OF THE INDIRECT COST RATE STUDY. THE 19 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES WHICH HAS AWARDED 20 THIS HAS GIVEN US A FOUR-YEAR AGREEMENT. NORMALLY WE USED 21 TO DO THIS EVERY TWO YEARS. 22 SO I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT 23 HAVE RIGHT NOW. BUT OVERALL, I THINK THE RESOLUTION 24 STANDS ON ITS OWN. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MARCH 22, 2012 144 1 TRUSTEE NGO: WAS IT MOVED? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WASN'T MOVED. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 5 IS THERE A SECOND? 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 8 FANG. 9 ANY QUESTIONS FOR -- 10 YES, TRUSTEE NGO. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: THIS CAME OUT OF -- WELL, IN PART 12 WE HAD BEEN TRYING TO DISCERN THE ACTUAL INDIRECT COSTS 13 INCURRED BY THE DISTRICT WHEN WE TAKE ON THESE COMPETITIVE 14 GRANTS. IT'S AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED BY A LOT OF 15 PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUDGET, THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF 16 WHAT TAKING ON A GRANT ACTUALLY MEANS. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: BECAUSE WE END UP TAKING ON THE 19 EMPLOYEE DURING THAT PROCESS, AND THEY BECOME PART OF 20 ESSENTIALLY THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS REGIME AT THE COLLEGE. 21 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S TRUE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WE HAD TO REALLY THINK ABOUT 23 WHAT IS THE ACTUAL INDIRECT COSTS, SO CALLED INDIRECT, 24 WHICH REALLY IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS THAT WE CAN 25 KIND OF EXTRACT FROM ANY GRANT THAT WE CAN SAY SHOULD GO MARCH 22, 2012 145 1 TO THE DISTRICT FOR THOSE KIND OF OPERATING COSTS OVERHEAD 2 AND WHATNOT. 3 THAT INCLUDES -- PROBLEMATICALLY, IT INCLUDES 4 THOSE COSTS RELATED TO OUR OPEB LIABILITY, FOR EXAMPLE, 5 RETIREE HEALTH. IT INCLUDES OBVIOUSLY PENSION BENEFITS, 6 VACATION TIME, ACCRUAL FOR -- OF VACATION TIME. ALL THOSE 7 COSTS I THINK WERE RAISED AS CONCERNS THAT HAD NOT BEEN 8 ADEQUATELY -- OR HAVE NOT BEEN ADEQUATELY CONSIDERED WHEN 9 WE JUST GO OUT THERE AND COMPETE FOR GRANTS, WHICH WE 10 SHOULD DO. 11 THE QUESTION IS HOW HAVE WE BEEN MANAGING THE 12 OUTFLOW OF THOSE APPLICATIONS? WHAT IS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED 13 AS AN INDIRECT COST RATE NUMBER THAT THE DISTRICT CAN GO 14 AHEAD AND ASSUME OR TAKE FOR ITS OWN? 15 SO THIS IS -- WHERE I AM GOING HERE IS THAT I 16 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS -- WHETHER THIS 17 TYPE OF RESOLUTION IS APPROPRIATE. IF IT SHOULD BE A B 18 RESOLUTION OR EVEN A POLICY OR A POLICY IN ADDITION TO A B 19 RESOLUTION THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF INTERFACE 20 BETWEEN THE PEOPLE COMPETING OR APPLYING FOR GRANTS AND 21 WHAT THE FINANCE PEOPLE ARE SAYING ACTUALLY COST TO RENDER 22 THOSE GRANTS ON BEHALF OF THE GRANTOR. 23 SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LANGUAGE, WHAT I WANT TO 24 MAKE SURE IS HOW ARE YOU -- IT'S VERY BROAD LANGUAGE. 25 CFO BILMONT: SURE. MARCH 22, 2012 146 1 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT -- 2 CFO BILMONT: I THINK I HAVE AN ANSWER. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND 4 IS -- WHO IS -- IS EVERY GRANT GOING OUT SUBJECT TO THIS 5 29.5 PERCENT AND 4.7 PERCENT NUMBER OR IS THERE SOME 6 DISCRETION THERE? 7 AND TWO, WHAT IS THE KIND OF STRUCTURAL -- 8 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: -- OPERATIONAL DYNAMIC BETWEEN 10 THOSE COMPETING FOR GRANTS OR INTERNALLY GOING OUT FOR 11 GRANTS AND THE FINANCE OFFICE OR ANY OTHER KIND OF OFFICE, 12 SIMILAR OFFICE. 13 CFO BILMONT: I CAN ADDRESS THAT. 14 AND FIRST OF ALL, YOUR DESCRIPTION OF WHAT GOES 15 INTO INDIRECT COSTS IS REALLY CIRCUMSPECT, AND YOU HAVE A 16 THOROUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS THAT WENT INTO THIS. 17 THE -- I WOULD RECOMMEND -- FOR TONIGHT, I THINK 18 THE BOARD SHOULD SIMPLY RECOGNIZE THE RATE. AND THEN 19 AFTER THAT, A PROCESS WILL TAKE PLACE WHERE YOU INITIALLY 20 MENTION COMPETITIVE GRANTS. THIS ACCEPTANCE OF THE RATE 21 TONIGHT WILL ESTABLISH A BASELINE BY WHICH APPLICATIONS 22 CAN BE MEASURED. THERE ARE SOME AWARDS WHERE THIS RATE 23 MAY NEVER BE APPLIED. 24 AND SO IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY EFFICIENT TO 25 IDENTIFY THOSE TRENCHES OF ITEMS THAT FALL UNDER THE MARCH 22, 2012 147 1 GENERAL DEFINITION OF GRANTS AND SET THEM ASIDE IN A 2 RELATIVE -- IN A KNOWN CAPACITY. 3 IN TERMS OF THE DYNAMICS BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF 4 RESEARCH AND PLANNING, WHICH APPLIES FOR GRANTS AND THE 5 FINANCE OFFICE. ONCE THIS RATE IS ESTABLISHED AND 6 ACCEPTED BY THE BOARD, WE WILL DEFINITELY -- THEY WILL BE 7 DIRECTED BY THE BOARD RELATIVE TO FURTHER DECISIONS AROUND 8 WHAT THIS RATE WILL APPLY TO SO THAT WHEN THEY PUT THEIR 9 GRANTS IN, THE RATE WILL EITHER BE ATTACHED TO IT OR NOT. 10 AND AGAIN, IT'S SUBJECT TO POTENTIAL 11 MODIFICATIONS BY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE POLICY TO 12 ADMINISTER THIS. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF US 14 ADOPTING IT? IS IT NOW A MANDATE OR ARE YOU SAYING US 15 ADOPTING IT IS SOME SORT OF LIKE SUGGESTED NUMBER AND THAT 16 THERE WILL BE SOME DISCRETION LEFT TO ANY ADMINISTRATOR TO 17 SAY WHETHER WE SHOULD THIS OR NOT, THAT PARTICULAR RATE, 18 SUBMIT IT AS PART OF GRANT APPLICATION OR NOT? 19 CFO BILMONT: THE -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 2 IS WHEN -- I'D LIKE TO HEAR 21 WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS OF THE HISTORICAL INDIRECT COST 22 RATES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED IN GRANT APPLICATIONS. 23 AND IF THERE'S LARGE VARIATION BETWEEN WHAT WE'VE 24 HISTORICALLY SUBMITTED AND THE ACTUAL INDIRECT COST RATES 25 THAT WE'VE CONCLUDED ARE LISTED HERE IN THIS RESOLUTION. MARCH 22, 2012 148 1 THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS -- 2 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THAT I HOPE YOU CAN ANSWER. 4 CFO BILMONT: WELL, IN TERMS OF THIS RESOLUTION 5 BEING A MANDATE TO APPLY TO ALL FUTURE COMPETITIVE GRANTS, 6 THAT'S NOT REALLY MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT THAT'S REALLY A 7 DECISION THE BOARD HAS TO MAKE. 8 AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION FOR TONIGHT IS SIMPLY 9 TO ACCEPT THE RATE INTO THE RECORD AND THEN THE CHANCELLOR 10 AND THE BOARD AND THE ADMINISTRATION CAN DECIDE -- 11 DETERMINE HOW IT SHOULD BE APPLIED OVER TIME TO 12 FACILITATE. 13 VCRP MCGUIRE: CAN I? 14 CFO BILMONT: YES, MA'AM. 15 VCRP MCGUIRE: I'D LIKE TO INTERRUPT JUST FOR A 16 MINUTE. 17 PHYLLIS MCGUIRE, VICE CHANCELLOR OF -- 18 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT BEFORE YOU DO, I KNOW HE HAS A 19 SECOND QUESTION HE HAS TO ANSWER, BUT GO AHEAD. 20 VCRP MCGUIRE: OKAY. HE IS NOT GOING 21 ANYWHERE -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 23 VCRP MCGUIRE: -- BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE 24 POINT. 25 AND IT'S PHYLLIS MCGUIRE, VICE CHANCELLOR OF MARCH 22, 2012 149 1 RESEARCH AND POLICY. 2 AND WHAT ACCEPTING THIS AT THIS POINT WILL ALLOW 3 US TO DO IS THIS IS A NEGOTIATED INDIRECT. SO WE RECEIVE 4 A NUMBER OF FEDERAL GRANTS ALREADY. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE 5 NOT HAD THIS NEGOTIATED INDIRECT RATE, THE DEAN OF GRANTS 6 HAS BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AN INDIRECT RATE AS BEST SHE 7 COULD GETTING INFORMATION FROM OUR DISTRICT BUSINESS 8 OFFICE, BUT THAT INDIRECT RATE WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE 9 THIS ACCEPTED RATE. IT WAS ONLY 16 I THINK .8 PERCENT. 10 SO NOW WHAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO WITH THE NSF 11 GRANTS THAT WE HAVE AND GOING FORWARD IS WE WILL BE ABLE 12 TO HAVE THIS NEGOTIATED INDIRECT RATE OF 29.5 PERCENT. 13 THERE ARE CERTAIN GRANTS FROM THE STATE THAT THE 14 STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE WILL NOT ALLOW THIS LEVEL OF AN 15 INDIRECT RATE. THAT JUST -- DOESN'T HAPPEN. I WOULDN'T 16 SUGGEST THAT WE SAY "NO" TO THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE 17 BECAUSE THE DOLLARS THAT WE GET ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR 18 THE INSTITUTION. 19 BUT IN GOING FORWARD, IT IS THE INTENT OF OUR 20 OFFICE TO WORK WITH THE AUDITOR AND WITH THE BOARD TO 21 DEVELOP A POLICY THAT WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR 22 NEGOTIATED INDIRECT RATE WHICH ALLOWS US FOR ANY FEDERAL 23 GRANT TO APPLY THIS INDIRECT RATE. AND THEN FROM THERE, 24 WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS THAT WE, AS AN INSTITUTION AND YOU 25 AS A BOARD, WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH IN TERMS OF MARCH 22, 2012 150 1 DIRECTING US FOR INDIRECT RATES BECAUSE THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT FUNDERS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT RULES OF THE ROAD, 3 AND WE DO TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT NOW THAT WE 4 HAVE THIS RATE, WE WILL BE BETTER ABLE TO GO FORWARD AND 5 TO NEGOTIATE WITH OTHER FUNDERS. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT ANSWERED EVERYTHING. THANK 7 YOU. 8 I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE SECOND QUESTION TOO. I 9 APPRECIATE THAT. 10 CFO BILMONT: YEAH. THANKS. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THAT'S -- I WILL YIELD MY 12 TIME. 13 BUT THE LAST THING IS I DO HOPE THERE WILL BE A 14 ROBUST DISCUSSION AND DYNAMIC THAT TAKES PLACE BETWEEN 15 FOLKS WHO ARE APPLYING FOR THESE GRANTS AND AN ASSESSMENT 16 OF WHAT THE ACTUAL COSTS, SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM, WILL 17 BE. AND I SUSPECT THAT WE'LL BE ENRICHED BY US ACCEPTING 18 THIS NEW NUMBER, WHICH IS I THINK ALMOST -- NOT ALMOST 19 DOUBLE, BUT IT'S -- I THINK IT'S 80-SOMETHING PERCENT MORE 20 THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE BEEN ACTUALLY CHARGING. 21 CFO BILMONT: YES. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THAT'S -- 23 CFO BILMONT: IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, 24 YES. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. MARCH 22, 2012 151 1 CFO BILMONT: YES, IT IS. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO CAN I ASK WHO IN THE 4 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH BRANCH OF THIS FEDERAL 5 GOVERNMENT DO WE NEGOTIATE WITH? 6 CFO BILMONT: OUR OVERSIGHT AGENCY IS THE 7 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 9 CFO BILMONT: AND THEY ARE THE AGENCY THAT 10 HANDLED THIS. AND THAT'S REALLY ON THE ATTACHMENT OF 11 PAGE 117. IT'S ATTACHED TO THE RESOLUTION, OKAY. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THEY ARE THE OVERSIGHT 13 AGENTS FOR ANY FEDERAL GRANT WE GET? IS THAT THE IDEA? 14 CFO BILMONT: THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE ANOTHER 15 AGENCY MAY BE ATTACHED TO THE GRANT. BUT FOR THE MAJORITY 16 OF THE GRANTS THAT COME INTO OUR COLLEGE THAT ARE FEDERAL, 17 THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IS THE 18 OVERSIGHT AGENCY, YES. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. THANK YOU. 20 I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT THIS CAME UP AT AN AUDIT 21 COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE WERE -- WE CAME TO REALIZE THAT THERE 22 MAY BE GRANTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY COSTING THE DISTRICT MONEY 23 RATHER THAN ACTUALLY GIVING US MONEY. 24 WE HAD A GRANT THAT VERY LITTLE OF IT WAS GOING 25 TO STUDENTS, MOST OF THE GRANT WAS TO -- FOR DISTRIBUTING MARCH 22, 2012 152 1 MONEY TO OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND THE OVERHEAD RATE 2 WAS 8 PERCENT, WHICH DIDN'T SEEM REAL. IT SEEMS SEEMED TO 3 SOME OF US THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY LOSING MONEY ON THAT 4 GRANT. AND THE MONEY WASN'T GOING FOR STUDENTS. IT WAS 5 GOING FOR DISTRIBUTING MONEY TO OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES, 6 SO WHY DO WE HAVE THIS GRANT, YOU KNOW. 7 AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS KIND OF 8 DISCUSSION CAME OUT OF THIS. AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY 9 GOOD STEP FORWARD. FIRST STEP AS WE NOTICED, AND WE COULD 10 DO THIS FURTHER WITH OTHER GRANTS, BUT IT -- HOPEFULLY, 11 THIS WILL SAVE US SOME SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY IN THE 12 FUTURE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE ANY FURTHER 14 DISCUSSION? 15 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 16 OKAY, THE STUDENT TRUSTEE HAS LEFT THE ROOM. 17 SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY "AYE." 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): (ABSENT.) MARCH 22, 2012 153 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES. THAT WAS B6. 3 WE NOW HAVE B7. 4 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM B7 IS ENTITLED, 5 "CONTRACTS, AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE NEW CONTRACTS AND 6 MODIFY EXISTING CONTRACTS." 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION FOR B7? 8 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 10 IS THERE A SECOND? 11 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 13 DISCUSSION? 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE GRIER. 16 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: IN LOOKING AT THE 17 CONTRACTS, NEW CONTRACTS, I SAW -- I'M LOOKING DOWN AT -- 18 ON PAGE -- IT DOESN'T HAVE A PAGE. PAGE 2 WHERE IT SAYS, 19 "SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT." 20 AND I KNOW WE WORK VERY HARD TO DO 21 COLLABORATIONS WITH SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT. 22 I AM JUST WONDERING HOW THIS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. IT'S A 23 CHILD DEVELOPMENT COURSE THAT TEACHERS FROM CITY COLLEGE 24 WILL BE TEACHING, AND THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH NEW 25 TEACHERS AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. AND DURING THE SUMMER, MARCH 22, 2012 154 1 THEY ARE GOING TO BE ENROLLED IN THE SUMMER SCHOOL 2 CLASSES. I AM JUST NOT CLEAR HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK OR 3 WHERE IT'S GOING TO OCCUR. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: THE MONEY IS COMING FROM UNIFIED. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YES. IT'S A GOOD THING. 6 IT'S A GOOD COLLABORATION. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW MORE 7 ABOUT IT. 8 MS. WHITE: SURE. KATHLEEN WHITE, CHAIR OF 9 CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND FAMILY STUDIES. 10 THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM BETWEEN THE 11 TEACHER ACADEMY PROGRAM AT LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL AND OUR 12 DEPARTMENT. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 14 MS. WHITE: SO STUDENTS TAKE DUAL ENROLLMENT 15 COURSES. 16 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THAT'S -- 17 MS. WHITE: THEY BECOME PREPARED TO WORK WITH 18 CHILDREN. AND THEN DURING THE SUMMER, THEY ARE OUR 19 STUDENTS. THEY ENROLL IN COLLEGE COURSES. THE COURSE 20 THEY ENROLL IN IS UC AND CSU TRANSFERABLE, SO IT'S A 21 VALUABLE COURSE OF OURS. AND THEY ARE PLACED BACK IN 22 UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT CLASSROOMS. THEY RECEIVE A 23 LECTURE AND FIELD EXPERIENCE. AND THEY EARN THREE UNITS. 24 AND THEY ARE ALSO PAID AS STUDENT EMPLOYEES. SO IT'S KIND 25 OF A WIN, WIN, WIN. MARCH 22, 2012 155 1 THEY ARE PLACED IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS. AND EVERY 2 MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER THAT'S HAD ONE OF OUR STUDENTS HAS 3 SAID IT'S MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. THEY LIKE 4 TEACHING IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THESE GREAT 5 TEACHER ASSISTANTS. SO IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS 6 WE DO. THIS IS OUR SEVENTH YEAR. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. 8 I JUST THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. 9 MS. WHITE: YEAH. 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 11 IT EXPANDED. 12 MS. WHITE: GREAT. YEAH, I WOULD TOO. WE 13 ALWAYS GET MORE TAKERS THAN WE HAVE SEATS. SO -- 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OH, OKAY. 15 MS. WHITE: THANK YOU. 16 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 19 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 20 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 23 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. MARCH 22, 2012 156 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 6 B7 IS APPROVED. 7 B8. 8 COUNSEL DICKEY: B8 IS ENTITLED, "AUTHORIZATION 9 BE HEREBY GIVEN TO SUBMIT A RENEWAL APPLICATION AND TO 10 APPROPRIATE ALL FUNDS RECEIVABLE UPON APPROVAL OF THE 11 CHILD DEVELOPMENT AND FAMILY STUDIES DEPARTMENT, STATE 12 PRESCHOOL/CENTER-BASED PROGRAMS' PARTICIPATION IN THE SAN 13 FRANCISCO CHILD CARE SUBSIDY PILOT PLAN FOR: ONE, THE 14 CALIFORNIA STATE PRESCHOOL PROGRAM, NOT TO EXCEED 15 $1,104,710 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2012-2013; TWO, GENERAL 16 CHILD CARE AND DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, NOT TO EXCEED 17 $144,812 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2012-2013. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION FOR B8? 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON; 22 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 23 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 24 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 25 SEEING NONE, STUDENT TRUSTEE. MARCH 22, 2012 157 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 3 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 11 B8 IS APPROVED. 12 YOU KNOW, THE P RESOLUTIONS DID NOT -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF ORDER. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT ABOUT THAT TRUSTEE MARKS HAD 16 PULLED G1. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, DID I MISS SOME. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T -- 19 TRUSTEE NGO: G1 AND H1, NO? 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: NO, THOSE WERE APPROVED. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DIDN'T HAVE THAT. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: NO? OKAY, I'M SORRY. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON S1. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: S1 OR S2. MARCH 22, 2012 158 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. WE ARE GETTING THERE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT IT WAS THE 3 G'S. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: WE ARE ON THE P RESOLUTIONS. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I APOLOGIZE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THE P RESOLUTIONS WE ARE 7 NOT TAKING THESE UP BECAUSE THEY DID NOT GET THROUGH THE 8 POLICY COMMITTEE. THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE -- 9 THAT THE POLICY COMMITTEE WANTED TO DO AND THEY WORKED. 10 THEY -- THE POLICY COMMITTEE, WHICH I AM ON, WANTED TO 11 MAKE SOME CHANGES AT ITS NEXT MEETING, SO WE CAN TAKE IT 12 UP AFTER THAT. 13 HOWEVER, THERE WAS ONE POLICY THAT DID GET 14 THROUGH THE POLICY COMMITTEE, P5, WHICH IS NOT ON THIS 15 AGENDA. AND I AM WONDERING WHY IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA 16 BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. IT HAD 17 TO DO WITH THE BUDGET. AND IT HAD TO DO WITH REQUIRING 18 TWO READINGS OF THE BUDGET. AND I AM JUST WONDERING HOW 19 THAT GOT LEFT OFF. 20 DOES ANYONE KNOW? 21 OKAY, WELL, I'M SORRY. I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE 22 BEEN MORE DILIGENT WHEN I REVIEWED THE AGENDA -- 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I AS WELL. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- LAST WEEK, SO I GUESS I 25 WILL APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WAS AN MARCH 22, 2012 159 1 IMPORTANT -- I KNOW THE CHANCELLOR FELT STRONGLY ABOUT IT. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ACTUALLY, YEAH, WE SPOKE 3 ABOUT THAT ONE. THAT WAS ONE -- THERE WAS SOME BACK AND 4 FORTH. I AM PRETTY SURE THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING 5 BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT ONE WOULD BE HERE FOR CERTAIN. SO 6 POSSIBLY WE COULD PUT IT ON -- WHEN WE HAVE THE SPECIAL 7 BOARD MEETING. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, THAT'S RIGHT. WE ARE 9 GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING ON THE 4TH. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: THE 4TH, YEAH. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MAYBE WE CAN PUT IT ON THAT 12 AGENDA. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO NEED 15 TWO READINGS. AND WE WANTED IT FOR THE BUDGET, FOR THIS 16 YEAR'S BUDGET. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, SINCE 18 IT'S ALREADY AGENDIZED. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, SURE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: JUST TO BE CLEAR, P3 I THINK IS 21 MISTITLED. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS IT? 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU ARE RIGHT. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT SHOULD SAY, "DISCLOSURE OF MARCH 22, 2012 160 1 ADMINISTRATOR OF CONTRIBUTIONS." I UNDERSTAND THAT DIDN'T 2 MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE. 3 WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING 4 THAT COMMITTEES ARE ACTUALLY WHERE YOU DO MAKE THE CHANGES 5 TO POLICY, SO IS IT THAT AT COMMITTEE WE JUST DISCUSS THEM 6 AND THEN WE WORK ON THEM IN SUBSEQUENT COMMITTEE MEETINGS? 7 I JUST -- I AM AT A LOSS TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE 8 ARE CONDUCTING COMMITTEES IF WE DON'T ACTUALLY CHANGE 9 LANGUAGE IN THE COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A SENSE 10 OF WHAT THE LANGUAGE ALREADY WOULD BE. 11 IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: LET ME CLARIFY WHAT WE DID WAS WE 13 HELD UP THESE RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAD PROBLEMS 14 WITH THEM. AND IN FACT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER 15 POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING AT WHICH POINT THEY WILL ALL BE 16 REVISED. EVERYBODY HAD PROBLEMS, SO THEY WERE TABLED 17 BASICALLY. THAT'S ALL. THEY WERE TABLED, EXCEPT FOR P5, 18 WHICH WAS THE BUDGET. THAT WENT FORWARD. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, SO INCLUDING THE DISCLOSURE OF 20 ADMINISTRATOR DONATIONS, THAT WAS ALSO TABLED. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: EVERYTHING WAS TABLED, BUT P5. 22 AND THAT WAS THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE DIFFERENT 23 PEOPLE TABLED DIFFERENT POLICIES. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: AND THEN WE VOTED ON THEM. THERE MARCH 22, 2012 161 1 WASN'T ONE PERSON WHO TABLED THEM ALL. THEY WERE 2 DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT 4 COMMITTEES -- THAT'S WHERE WE ACTUALLY DO WORK TO 5 REVISE -- 6 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT IS. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THE LANGUAGE. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: WE WILL REVISE IT. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: WE WILL, BUT FIRST WE HAD TO TAKE 11 THEM OFF AND SAY THAT THEY NEED TO BE REVISED. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WHO IS REVISING THEM? 13 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, THE COMMITTEE WILL REVISE 14 THEM. WE TABLE THEM TEMPORARILY. WE WILL COME BACK AND 15 WE WILL -- I WILL HAVE LANGUAGE AND THE REST OF THE 16 COMMITTEE WILL HAVE LANGUAGE AND THEN WE WILL DECIDE ON 17 THE LANGUAGE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE MARKS. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: WHEN WERE THESE POLICY 22 RESOLUTIONS REFERRED TO DR. BERG'S COMMITTEE? 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO -- 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I INTRODUCED THEM AT THE LAST MARCH 22, 2012 162 1 BOARD MEETING. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. SO A COMMITTEE 3 RECOMMENDATION OR A PROGRESS -- THIS IS A POLICY THAT 4 EXISTS TODAY. A COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION OR A REPORT ON 5 PROGRESS MADE TOWARDS A RECOMMENDATION WILL BE REQUIRED BY 6 THE SECOND REGULAR BOARD MEETING OR FOLLOWING THE REFERRAL 7 OR 45 DAYS FOLLOWING THE REFERRAL WHICHEVER IS LATER. 8 SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE HOLD UP 9 SPECIFICALLY ON THESE DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: THEY CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT 11 MEETING. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: YOU GOT TO SPEAK UP. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: THEY WILL COME BACK AT THE NEXT 14 MEETING. WE ARE NOT HOLDING IT UP. WE ARE REVISING THEM 15 AND BRINGING THEM BACK. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT -- 17 TRUSTEE BERG: THERE WILL BE ANOTHER RESOLUTIONS 18 COMMITTEE MEETING, AND IT WILL COME TO THE WHOLE BOARD. 19 SO BY THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, THESE TWO WILL BE COMPLETED. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: FOR THE FIRST READING? 21 TRUSTEE BERG: FOR THE FIRST READING. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I GET SOME A -- AN EXPLANATION 25 AS TO WHY -- WELL, AM I CLEAR THAT THE RESOLUTION -- THE MARCH 22, 2012 163 1 POLICY TO DISCLOSE ADMINISTRATOR CONTRIBUTIONS TO BOARD 2 MEMBERS, DID THAT DIE IN COMMITTEE OR IS IT BEING REVISED 3 IN COMMITTEE? I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT ONE WAS VERY PROBLEMATIC 5 BECAUSE NOBODY ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD IT CLEARLY, SO IF YOU 6 WOULD LIKE TO COME AND DISCUSS IT. IT WAS VERY 7 COMPLICATED, AND IT WAS NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. SO -- 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SO THAT ONE WAS COMPLICATED. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- I WOULD LIKE TO BE INVITED NEXT 11 TIME THAT YOU -- 12 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT WAS COMPLICATED, AND THERE 13 WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF IT AS WELL. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: DID WE HAVE COUNSEL THERE? ARE 15 YOU ASKING FOR LEGAL OPINION FOR THAT RESOLUTION OR 16 POLICY? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: I AM ASKING FOR A LEGAL OPINION 18 ON THAT RESOLUTION. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. SO I JUST -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WANT TO HAVE COUNSEL THERE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: WAS IT TABLED OR DID IT DIE? 23 TRUSTEE BERG: EVERYTHING WAS TABLED. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: WAS IT VOTED DOWN? 25 TRUSTEE BERG: NOTHING WAS VOTED DOWN. MARCH 22, 2012 164 1 EVERYTHING WAS TABLED. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO 3 IT'S STILL ALIVE. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO 7 THAT'S -- ANY FURTHER COMMENT? 8 I GUESS WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE P 9 RESOLUTIONS THAT WE ARE NOT VOTING ON. 10 OKAY, THERE IS NONE. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: THERE WILL BE A MEETING. AND WE 12 WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO COME AND GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN WE 13 HAVE THE RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE. 14 IN FACT WE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE, AND WE 15 WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE THERE BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE 16 TO SEE THESE GO FORWARD IF WE CAN GET THEM. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE 19 GENERAL AUDIENCE THAT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. AND 20 WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE PRESENT AT THE MEETING SO 21 THAT WE CAN HEAR THE COMMENTS. I'M SORRY IF THIS DOESN'T 22 WORK OR IF I DON'T SPEAK -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I ALSO ADD JUST A COURTESY 24 THAT IF YOU -- WHEN YOU DO SCHEDULE THE COMMITTEE HEARING 25 FOR ANY ITEM THAT'S BEEN AUTHORED BY ANY OTHER MARCH 22, 2012 165 1 COLLEAGUE -- 2 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THAT YOU INVITE THEM TO SPEAK 4 TO IT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S 7 A PUBLIC NOTICE. SO I FIGURED EVERYBODY KNEW THAT THERE 8 IS A RESOLUTIONS COMMITTEE MEETING. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: AS I SAID -- 10 TRUSTEE BERG: BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEND IT 11 TO THE BOARD. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AS A MATTER OF COURTESY, COULD 13 YOU INVITE YOUR COLLEAGUES WHO OFFERED THEM -- 14 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, OF COURSE. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TO SPEAK TO THEM IF THERE'S ANY 16 CONFUSION. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: MAY I ASK A QUESTION? 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE GRIER. 23 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: TRUSTEE BERG, WHEN IS THE 24 NEXT MEETING? 25 TRUSTEE BERG: WE HAVEN'T SCHEDULED IT, BUT I MARCH 22, 2012 166 1 WILL SCHEDULE IT. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: IT WILL BE IN THE NEXT THREE 4 WEEKS PROBABLY. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: ALL RIGHT. THANKS. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AND CAN I -- JUST A POINT OF 7 ORDER. I'M SORRY. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OF COURSE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: MY UNDERSTANDING IS OF THE BOARD 10 POLICY IS THAT IT AUTOMATICALLY COMES BACK TO THE BOARD AS 11 A WORKING DOCUMENT IF IT DOES NOT GET OUT OF COMMITTEE BY 12 THEN SO THAT IT CANNOT BE REFERRED -- IT CANNOT BE TABLED 13 AGAIN FOR LONGER THAN 45 DAYS -- I'M SORRY. LONGER 14 THAN -- LONGER THAN THE SECOND MEETING AFTER WHICH IT WAS 15 REFERRED. SO IT'S A SELF-ENFORCING REFERRAL SO THAT WE 16 DON'T KEEP RESOLUTIONS BOTTLED UP IN COMMITTEE, SO IT HAS 17 TO COME BACK HERE. 18 I PREFER THE WORK ACTUALLY GET DONE IN 19 COMMITTEE, OTHERWISE IT HAS TO COME BACK HERE AND THE 20 BOARD HAS TO WORK ON IT FROM SCRATCH. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, WE EXPECT TO BRING IT BACK 22 HERE. WE HAVE ONE MORE -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I WAS JUST RAISING -- 24 TRUSTEE BERG: -- MEETING AND WE EXPECT TO BRING 25 BACK -- MARCH 22, 2012 167 1 TRUSTEE NGO: JUST RAISING A POINT. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: -- FOR THE FULL BOARD. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK IT WILL STILL BE 4 WITHIN THE 45 DAYS AT THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY 5 LAST WEEK. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. S1, COUNSEL. 8 COUNSEL DICKEY: S1 IS ENTITLED, "APPROVING THE 9 TOTAL EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM OF THE CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 10 FRANCISCO, SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT AS 11 DESCRIBED IN THE 2012-2013 COLLEGE CATALOG DRAFT." 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WILL MOVE THAT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE'S A MOTION. 14 IS THERE A SECOND? 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 17 FANG. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS YOU PULLED IT OFF. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: I PULLED IT OFF BEFORE I NOTICED 20 THERE WAS A WEBSITE THAT WE COULD REVIEW THE DRAFT 21 CATALOG. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO THIS IS A FIRST READING OR 24 IS LIKE WE PASS THIS? 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS A PASSAGE. MARCH 22, 2012 168 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. IT SAYS, "DRAFT." 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT SAYS, "DRAFT." IT SAYS, 3 "APPROVING THE TOTAL EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM." 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT DOES SAY, "DRAFT." 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, DRAFT, OH. 6 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 7 MR. BOEGEL: WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT MY CATALOG 8 EDITOR IS STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FINISHING ALL OF THE 9 ACTUAL TYPING AND FORMATTING AND LAYOUT IN MAKING SURE 10 THAT THE PAGE BREAKS HAPPEN IN THE RIGHT PLACES. 11 BUT AGAIN, AS THE RESOLUTION SAYS, THE CATALOG 12 IS ESSENTIALLY IN ITS FINAL FORMAT. YOU KNOW, THERE IS 13 SOME WORK THAT HAS TO GET DONE, MAKE SURE THE PICTURES ARE 14 IN THE RIGHT RESOLUTION, AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GETS 15 PRINTED UP CORRECTLY. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION. 17 MR. BOEGEL: PLEASE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO DECISIONS ON WHERE THE 19 CLASSES ARE GOING TO GO TO, I.E. LIKE WHICH CAMPUSES THEY 20 ARE GOING TO GO TO, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE? 21 MR. BOEGEL: THIS IS THE CATALOG. THIS IS NOT 22 THE TIME SCHEDULE. 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: THE DESCRIPTIONS. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THAT'S A SCHEDULE. THE 25 SCHEDULE IS WHERE YOU WOULD SEE WHERE CLASSES GO. MARCH 22, 2012 169 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, I AM ASKING HIM, SO -- 2 MR. BOEGEL: I'M SORRY. I FORGOT TO SAY, TOM 3 BOEGEL, DEAN OF INSTRUCTION. 4 THIS IS THE CATALOG. SO THIS IS THE LISTING 5 THAT HAS THE CATALOG DESCRIPTIONS OF ALL OF THE COURSES -- 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 7 MR. BOEGEL: -- THE 3,000 COURSES THAT WE HAVE. 8 AND THE DEPARTMENT DESCRIPTIONS OF THE NEARLY 300 9 CERTIFICATE DEGREE PROGRAMS, WE HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT 10 REQUIREMENTS. IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT HAS ACADEMIC POLICIES, 11 ASSOCIATE DEGREE GRADUATION REQUIREMENTS, TRANSFER 12 INFORMATION, BIG -- IT'S ABOUT -- IT'S ALMOST ABOUT A 500 13 PAGE DOCUMENT AT THIS POINT. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND SO -- 15 MR. BOEGEL: AND AGAIN -- 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- HAVE YOU FINISHED -- 17 MR. BOEGEL: -- THIS HAS NOTHING ABOUT THE 18 ACTUAL TIME SCHEDULE. THIS IS JUST THE LISTING OF THE 19 COURSES THAT WE HAVE, PRIMARILY, THE COURSES AND PROGRAM 20 DESCRIPTIONS. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO. NO. I AM TRYING -- YOU 22 KNOW, BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE DO THIS, IT ALWAYS COMES AND 23 THEN ME AND TRUSTEE GRIER ASK A QUESTION, LIKE, WHAT'S 24 GOING ON? WHERE OUR CLASSES ARE? 25 SO I JUST WANT TO GET A FIRM HANDLE ON THE MARCH 22, 2012 170 1 TIMELINE THAT YOU ARE ON. SO WE APPROVE THIS, AND SO 2 WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR WHERE THE CLASSES ARE GOING TO 3 INDIVIDUAL CAMPUSES? 4 MR. BOEGEL: I AM GOING TO DEFER TO MY BOSS, 5 VICE CHANCELLOR LOW TO SPEAK TO THAT. 6 VCAA LOW: THE SCHEDULE FOR -- IS BEING 7 DEVELOPED BY THE DEPARTMENT CHAIRS RIGHT NOW. THEY JUST 8 GOT THE INFORMATION. SO WE ARE EXPECTING TO GET THEIR -- 9 WHAT WE CALL THEIR ROLLOVERS BACK TO OUR OFFICE THE SECOND 10 WEEK IN APRIL. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND SO -- CAN YOU GUYS FORWARD 12 IT -- IT CAN GO TO BUDGET COMMITTEE, I AM HAPPY WITH THAT. 13 BUT I WOULD LIKE IT TO GO TO COMMITTEE FIRST BECAUSE THEN 14 I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE EVERYTHING DONE AND THEN 15 JUST GIVE IT TO US THEN AND THEN IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, 16 IT'S LIKE A MAJOR CRISIS GOING ON. 17 BUT LIKE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE 18 COMMUNITY THAT HAVE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY 19 CLASSES ARE PUT IN SPECIFIC CAMPUSES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO 20 HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITHIN COMMITTEE BEFORE WE ARE 21 UNDER THE GUN TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE CLASS 22 SCHEDULE LIKE APPROVED. SO IF THAT CAN GO TO EITHER 23 BUDGET, I.E. BOTH IT'S NOT -- YOU KNOW, I AM NOT, YOU 24 KNOW, REALLY -- AS LONG AS IT GOES TO A COMMITTEE SO THAT 25 WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHERE -- HOW MANY CLASSES ARE GOING TO MARCH 22, 2012 171 1 EACH CAMPUS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 2 YOU SEE THE FOLKS THAT COME HERE, AND THEY ARE 3 VERY VOCAL ABOUT SPECIFIC CAMPUSES, ESPECIALLY THE 4 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS HAVING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF CLASSES. AND 5 HISTORICALLY SOMETIMES, THEY HAVEN'T HAD THEIR FAIR SHARE 6 OF CLASSES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, 7 HAVE THAT IN COMMITTEE SO WE COULD AT LEAST HAVE A GENERAL 8 DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CLASSES ARE GOING TO 9 MISSION, SOUTHEAST, CIVIC CENTER, AND ALL THE OTHER 10 CAMPUSES THAT WE HAVE CHINATOWN AND ALL THE OTHER CAMPUSES 11 THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COLLEGE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I'M SORRY. 13 CHANCELLOR. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO I THINK WE SHOULD -- 15 JUST ONE THING WHEN TOM COMES AND TALK ABOUT CATALOG, 16 LET'S NOT ASK THESE QUESTIONS ANYMORE ABOUT THE SCHEDULING 17 BECAUSE THE SCHEDULING IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL. 18 THE SCHEDULE OF CLASSES, WHAT WE CAN DO, WE'VE 19 ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THE SUMMER SCHEDULE WHICH SAYS 20 EXACTLY WHICH CLASSES ARE GOING TO BE OFFERED IN WHICH 21 CAMPUS LOCATION. THAT INFORMATION CAN BE GIVEN TO THE 22 PLANNING AND BUDGET COUNCIL OF THE BOARD AT THE NEXT 23 PLANNING AND BUDGET COUNCIL OF THE BOARD. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO THEN WE COULD GIVE IT TO MARCH 22, 2012 172 1 YOU BY CAMPUSES SO YOU COULD KNOW WHERE WE'RE PLANNING TO 2 PUT EVERY CLASS, WHETHER IT'S SOUTHEAST OR MISSION OR 3 WHEREVER. 4 WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON THE FALL SCHEDULE. AND 5 WE CAN GIVE YOU THE SAME INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE 6 FALL SCHEDULE. 7 I AM THINKING THAT WE WOULD HAVE -- JOANNE, I 8 THINK WE WILL HAVE BOTH OF THOSE READY FOR THEM IN TERMS 9 OF ITS TENTATIVE FORM BY THE NEXT PLANNING AND BUDGET 10 COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE TWO -- TEN DAYS FROM NOW. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO BASICALLY, YOU WOULD GET 14 A LISTING OF THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE 15 TO TALK ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF WHERE THE 16 CLASSES ARE BEING OFFERED. WE'D ALSO PROVIDE YOU 17 HISTORICAL DATA SO THAT YOU COULD SEE HOW MANY CLASSES 18 WE'VE OFFERED AT THESE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS DURING THE 19 SUMMER BEFORE AND ALSO DURING THE FALL BEFORE. AND WHEN 20 WE COME TO THE SPRING TERM, WHICH IS MUCH LATER, THEN ALSO 21 CAN COME IN FRONT OF THE BUDGET AND PLANNING COUNCIL 22 BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED 23 DIRECTLY. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 25 AND, TOM, I AM SORRY I HASSLE YOU EVERY TIME YOU MARCH 22, 2012 173 1 COME HERE. 2 MR. BOEGEL: IT'S OKAY. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS 4 IN THE COMMUNITY ARE JUST REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW MANY 5 CLASSES, WHAT TYPES OF CLASSES. 6 MR. BOEGEL: CLEARLY. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE CNA, 8 THE SEWING CLASSES, AND A LOT OF OTHER CLASSES, 9 TRANSITIONAL STUDIES AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE 10 VERY INTERESTED. AND, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M 11 SORRY TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME EVERY TIME YOU COME UP HERE, 12 BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST KIND OF GENERAL QUESTIONS. SO 13 I WILL WAIT UNTIL THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE MEETING TO 14 ASK, BUT I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN THAT EARLY. 15 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 16 MR. BOEGEL: THANK YOU. 17 VCAA LOW: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I KNOW 18 THAT THE SUMMER INFORMATION WILL BE READY BY THE NEXT 19 MEETING, BUT I THINK THE NEXT MEETING IS BEFORE THE 20 ROLLOVERS ARE DUE SO -- 21 MR. BOEGEL: FOR FALL. 22 VCAA LOW: FOR FALL, SO THAT MIGHT -- 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: HOWEVER, HERE IS A DRAFT. 24 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND ITS -- IT ALLOWS FOR -- MARCH 22, 2012 174 1 IF YOU HAVE A DRAFT OF A SCHEDULING, WHICH IS 95 PERCENT 2 ACCURATE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO, WE COULD 3 GET THAT DRAFT OVER TO THE PBC SO THAT THEY CAN START 4 LOOKING AT IT -- 5 MR. BOEGEL: SURE. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- TO BE ASSURED THAT WE 7 ARE NOT DEVIATING FROM OUR PATTERNS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE 8 ARE OFFERING CLASSES AND WHAT OUR PLANS ARE, NOR THE 9 DIRECTION OF THE BOARD IN TERMS OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING 10 FOR THE COMMUNITIES. 11 SO I THINK THE POINT OF THIS IS THAT IF THEY 12 DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT UNTIL IT'S A FAIT 13 ACCOMPLI, THEN THERE'S NO ROOM FOR INPUT, EXCEPT 14 COMPLAINING AFTERWARDS OF WHY DIDN'T YOU DO "X", "Y" OR 15 "Z". 16 SO IF WE GO TO THE PLANNING AND BUDGET COUNCIL 17 AND THEY SEE WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS AND WHAT WE ARE OFFERING 18 AT SOUTHEAST AND OTHER CAMPUSES, THEN THEY CAN SEE THAT 19 ADMINISTRATIVELY WE ARE DOING WHAT THE PLAN IS. 20 KEEPING IN MIND, OF COURSE, THAT THE COLLEGE 21 PLANNING AND BUDGET COUNCIL HAS ALREADY VOTED AND WILL 22 HAVE TO GET TO THE PBC TO RATIFY THAT VOTE WHICH IS TO CUT 23 THE FALL SCHEDULE AND CREDIT BY EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT 24 AND CUT THE NONCREDIT SCHEDULE IN FALL BY 12 PERCENT. SO 25 THAT PART NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AS WELL IN THE CONTEXT OF MARCH 22, 2012 175 1 THE OF THE WHOLE BUDGET. 2 WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE BOARD BEFORE IN 3 REGARDS TO REDUCING THE SUMMER SCHEDULE. THAT WAS A VERY 4 EXPLICIT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AT THE BOARD SO THEY CAN 5 UNDERSTAND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CUT AND 6 SUMMER IS COMING UP. 7 BUT THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF THE CLASSES IS 8 SOMETHING THAT EVEN FOR THE SUMMER SCHOOL AS WELL SHOULD 9 BE BROUGHT TO PBC. SO I AM JUST SAYING THAT THE 10 ADMINISTRATION WILL PREPARE ALL THAT INFORMATION BY CAMPUS 11 SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE CLASSES ARE AS WELL AS ALL THE 12 HISTORICAL TRENDS. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, 15 MR. CHAIR, THAT THE BOARD PBC THAT WE HAD INTENDED AND I'M 16 STARTING -- IT'S LIKE A DEJA VU THING FROM LAST YEAR. 17 REMEMBER, WE HAD THIS SAME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THIS 18 WAS. 19 BUT THE BUDGET -- THE PLANNING AND BUDGET 20 COMMITTEE THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS LAST YEAR, HAVE TAKEN UP 21 THESE ITEMS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. I SUSPECT MORE 22 DETAIL THIS YEAR. WE'VE ALLOTTED TWO MEETINGS FOR 23 INSTRUCTIONAL OFFERINGS, A BUDGET FOR INSTRUCTIONAL 24 OFFERINGS WHERE I HAD DELINEATED IN OUR PROCEDURAL MATTERS 25 THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING CAMPUS BY CAMPUS BUDGETS. WE MARCH 22, 2012 176 1 WOULD BE -- WHICH OBVIOUSLY INCLUDES HOW MUCH WE ARE 2 ALLOTTING FOR CLASSES ON VARIOUS CAMPUSES. SO IT'S 3 ALREADY PART OF OUR ROUTINE, OUR PROCESS. IT WASN'T 4 BEFORE, BUT IT IS NOW. 5 AND WE WILL BE INCORPORATING THESE PROGRAM 6 REVIEWS AS WELL, SO TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE THEM, THE 7 CAMPUS PROGRAM REVIEWS TOO OR SITE PROGRAM REVIEWS AS 8 WELL, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL TO UNDERSTAND -- TO 9 HAVE SOME CONTEXT IN THE DECISIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE 10 MAKING. 11 BUT THE CHANCELLOR IS RIGHT IN THAT THERE MAY BE 12 SOME VOTES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL FOR 13 CUTS IN SUMMER AND THE SEMESTER, BUT THE BOARD STILL HAS 14 TO VOTE ON THEM. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THE SUMMER 15 SCHEDULE IS PROBABLY ALMOST DONE OR ALMOST THERE, THAT WAS 16 PART OF THE RUSH TO GET ABOARD -- HAVE BOARD OVERSIGHT TO 17 SEE WHETHER OR NOT -- TO GET SOME READBACK OBVIOUSLY FROM 18 COMMUNITY MEMBERS. BUT ALSO HAVE A SAY IN THE DOLLARS 19 THAT ARE GOING OUT TO VARIOUS CAMPUSES DURING THE SUMMER 20 AS WELL. 21 SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE MAY NOT BE A 22 MECHANISM TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK AS A FAIT ACCOMPLI AS 23 THE CHANCELLOR SAID, THERE IS A FEEDBACK IN THE SUBSEQUENT 24 YEAR IN THAT WE COULD JUST AGENDIZE IT EARLIER AND OFFER 25 THAT FEEDBACK BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO THAT POINT AGAIN. MARCH 22, 2012 177 1 SO I WANT TO JUST ASSURE MY COLLEAGUES THAT 2 UNLIKE PREVIOUS YEARS, THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN LOOKING AT 3 THESE ITEMS METHODICALLY I THINK IN A VERY OPEN FAIR 4 PROCESS. 5 AND I INVITED MY COLLEAGUES TO AGENDIZE ANYTHING 6 THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS OF INTEREST. AND I DID GET A 7 REQUEST FROM TRUSTEE JACKSON. AND I WILL URGE MY 8 COLLEAGUES TO SEND ME ANY ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO 9 AGENDIZE FOR THE APRIL 4TH MEETING. 10 APRIL IS A BIG MONTH WHERE WE ARE TAKING UP THE 11 INSTRUCTIONAL OFFERINGS. WE'VE AGENDIZED IT TWICE. IT'S 12 GOING TO BE HEAVIER BECAUSE WE HAD TO DELAY THIS PAST 13 WEEK'S BOARD MEETING ON OTHER ITEMS, SO WE HAVE TO ADD 14 THAT TO THE AGENDA FOR APRIL. 15 BUT I DO EXPECT THAT WE WILL BE TAKING IT UP, 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON, AND OTHER TRUSTEES WHO ARE SO CONCERNED 17 WITH -- SIMILARLY CONCERNED WITH THE CAMPUS BUDGETS AND 18 COURSE ASSIGNMENTS. THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. CHANCELLOR. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE WILL PROBABLY COME TO 21 THIS MUCH MORE IN THE PLANNING AND BUDGET COUNCIL OF THE 22 BOARD. BUT WE DID HAVE AN ACCREDITATION VISIT. AND ONE 23 OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP AND HAS BEEN EXPRESSED, AND 24 IT'S GOING TO GET IN THE FINAL REPORT THAT COMES OUT IS A 25 CONCERN ABOUT HOW MUCH WE ARE TRYING TO DO WITHOUT BEING MARCH 22, 2012 178 1 TOTALLY FOCUSED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING RELATIVE TO 2 BEING SPREAD OUT OVER THE ENTIRE CITY. 3 SO IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ANTICIPATE 4 IN TERMS OF THE REPORT. THE REPORT IS BASICALLY TELLING 5 US THAT WE NEED TO RESTRICT OUR -- BASICALLY, THE WORD IS 6 GOING (INAUDIBLE) WHICH IS REALLY DISTASTEFUL IS THAT WE 7 NEED TO RESTRICT OUR MISSION. 8 AND WE'RE ACTUALLY -- WE ARE TRYING TO DO TOO 9 MUCH AND DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO EVERYTHING THAT 10 WE ARE TRYING TO DO. AND PART OF THAT IMPLIED IN THAT I 11 BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY IS THAT THEY WANT US TO TAKE A 12 REALLY CLOSE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES TO SEE IF THERE'S 13 A BETTER WAY OF OPERATING SO THAT WE ARE NOT SO STRETCHED 14 OUT IN TERMS OF CAMPUSES THAT WE CAN'T FUNCTION BECAUSE 15 THEY ARE POINTING VERY CLOSELY TO CONCERN THAT WITHIN A 16 VERY SHORT PERIOD, IF WE CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS AS WE ARE 17 DOING IT, THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE -- TO RECEIVE AN 18 UNQUALIFIED AUDIT, NOR WILL WE BE ABLE TO CONTINUE. AND 19 SO PART OF THE CAUTION THAT THEY MADE TO US IS THAT 20 THERE'S BEEN EXPLICIT INSTRUCTION FROM THE STATE TO DO 21 VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE. 22 NO. 1, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CATEGORICALS WOULD NOT 23 SUCCESSFULLY CUT THE CATEGORICALS. WE'VE ENHANCED THEM IN 24 SOME CASES. 25 THE SECOND THING THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MARCH 22, 2012 179 1 IS THAT THEY'VE ASKED US TWICE TO LOWER THE ENROLLMENT -- 2 NOT THE ENROLLMENT, BUT WHAT WE ARE FINANCING AS FAR AS 3 CLASSES. AND TWICE WE'VE RESISTED THAT. AND THEY ARE 4 SAYING BASICALLY, WE DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN CONTINUE TO 5 RESIST. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE FRUSTRATION WITH 6 ALL OF US NOW IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO OFFER 7 ALL OF THESE CLASSES, AND ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND ALL 8 OF THESE LOCATIONS, BUT THE ACCREDITING BODY IS CLEARLY 9 TELLING US WE CAN'T DO IT. 10 AND SO I JUST WANT TO TRY TO GET BACK TO THAT 11 BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE NEXT 12 YEAR, THE ONLY THING THAT WE SEE HAPPENING IS NOT ANY KIND 13 OF EXPANSION IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS. WE WANT TO BE FAIR IN 14 TERMS OF DISTRIBUTION AND SO FORTH, BUT WE NOW ARE GOING 15 TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE 16 COULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT OUR FACILITIES AND NOT EVEN OPERATE 17 SOME OF THOSE IN THE COMING YEAR. 18 MS. LAMHA: IS THERE PUBLIC SPEAKING? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOLD ON A SECOND. 20 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC -- IS THERE ANY FURTHER 21 DISCUSSION ON THIS? 22 I WILL ADD THAT I WAS ALSO ASKED BY THE 23 ACCREDITATION TEAM ABOUT THIS ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHY WE 24 HAVE SO MANY CAMPUSES, HOW WE EXPECT TO KEEP THEM 25 OPERATING, HAVE WE EVER DISCUSSED CLOSING CAMPUSES, AND MARCH 22, 2012 180 1 THAT KIND OF LINE OF QUESTIONING. SO IT WAS CLEAR TO ME 2 THAT THEY DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO DO THAT, TO OPERATE AS 3 WE ARE OPERATING. AND THAT'S THEIR OPINION. AND IT'S 4 PROBABLY GOING TO BE REFLECTED IN THE REPORT THAT WE GET, 5 SO WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT. 6 OKAY, WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. 7 MS. LAMHA: CARMEN LAMHA, CHAIR OF CNT, COMPUTER 8 NETWORKING INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. AND ACTUALLY, I AM 9 WORKING THE SCHEDULE AS WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. 10 I JUST WANT TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE 11 SCHEDULE IS A VERY COMPLEX THING. AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO 12 HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT'S DONE AND THE 13 COMPLEXITIES OF IT. TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE 14 SPACE REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE CONTRACTS, UNION CONTRACTS. 15 THERE ARE PARKING ISSUES. THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. 16 AND, YOU KNOW, I PUT CLASSES AT SOUTHEAST. WE WERE 17 TALKING ABOUT CHINATOWN AND ALL DIFFERENT CAMPUSES. 18 BUT I THINK JUST THAT ON STANDING, YOU NEED TO 19 BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE 20 CAMPUSES. SO I THINK DEPARTMENT CHAIRS, AND I SPEAK FOR 21 MYSELF, WOULD BE WILLING TO COLLABORATE WITH THE PROCESS, 22 BUT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF IT 23 AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT A CLASS HERE AND THERE 24 AND SO FORTH. 25 IT'S LIKE, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS IT'S A BIG MARCH 22, 2012 181 1 PUZZLE. AND THERE ARE SO MANY PIECES TO THAT. AND I 2 WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE HAPPY TO JUST GO THROUGH WHAT IT'S 3 LIKE TO SCHEDULE WHEN YOU GET A ROLLOVER AND SO FORTH. 4 YOU JUST NEED TO CONSIDER THAT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 7 ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I THINK WE ARE READY TO 8 VOTE. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE ON S1. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S1? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 S1 PASSES. 21 S3, COUNSEL. 22 COUNSEL DICKEY: S3 IS ENTITLED, "RECOMMENDATION 23 OF ASCENSION BENEFITS AND INSURANCE SOLUTIONS, FORMALLY 24 RENAISSANCE INSURANCE AGENCY INC., AS HEALTH INSURANCE 25 PROVIDING FOR F1 INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS; AND AUTHORIZATION MARCH 22, 2012 182 1 TO APPROVE ASCENSION BENEFITS AND INSURANCE SOLUTIONS, 2 FORMALLY RENAISSANCE INSURANCE AGENCY INC., AS PROVIDERS 3 OF GROUP PLAN, UNDERWRITTEN BY ANTHEM BLUE CROSS LIFE AND 4 HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY, FOR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR 5 INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS ON F1 VISAS ENROLLED IN CITY 6 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO WITH COSTS TO BE BORNE BY THE 7 INSURED STUDENTS." 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK THE TITLE IS ACTUALLY 9 LONGER THAN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: THAT MAY VERY WELL BE. I 11 UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE 12 LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, LET'S HAVE IT MOVED 14 FIRST. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE HAVE A POLICY ON WORD 16 LIMIT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I GET A MOTION FOR -- 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO MOVED. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 22 FANG. 23 OKAY, DISCUSSION? 24 ALL RIGHT. NO DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD. 25 PUBLIC COMMENT? MARCH 22, 2012 183 1 VCAA LOW: WE WANTED TO -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU STATE YOUR FULL NAME. 3 VCAA LOW: HI, JOANNE LOW, INTERIM VICE 4 CHANCELLOR OF ACADEMIC AFFAIRS. 5 FOR THIS RESOLUTION WHEN WE PUT IT TOGETHER, THE 6 DATE THAT WAS LISTED UNDER THE RESOLVE WAS THAT IT WOULD 7 START JANUARY 1ST FOR THE CREDIT INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. 8 AND THAT DATE IS INCORRECT. IT SHOULD BE AUGUST 15TH, 9 WHICH IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE FALL SEMESTER. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 11 COUNSEL DICKEY: SO THE LAST DATE SHOULD BE IN 12 THE RESOLVED SHOULD BE AUGUST 15TH? 13 VCAA LOW: YES. 14 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 16 ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 17 ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT THOSE IN FAVOR? 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. MARCH 22, 2012 184 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 3 OKAY, S3 PASSES. 4 S4. 5 COUNSEL DICKEY: S4 IS ENTITLED, "BOARD VOTES 6 FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRUSTEES, CCCT, BOARD OF 7 DIRECTORS." 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO, TRUSTEES, THIS IS WHERE 9 EACH COMMUNITY COLLEGE VOTES FOR CANDIDATES TO BE ON THE 10 STATE CCCT, CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRUSTEES BOARD. 11 I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE CANDIDATES. I SENT 12 SOME OF THOSE -- SOME OF THEM E-MAILS, ASKED SOME OTHER 13 PEOPLE TO FIND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THEM. 14 AND I ASKED THEM SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME OF 15 THEIR POSITIONS ON THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE, SUCH AS 16 THE ELIMINATION OF BOG WAIVERS OR THE CAP ON BOG WAIVERS 17 FOR LOW INCOME STUDENTS. AND THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO WAS 18 RETICENT ABOUT THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE 19 RECOMMENDATION WAS ANN RANSFORD OF GLENDALE COMMUNITY 20 COLLEGE DISTRICT. THE OTHER CANDIDATES WERE PRETTY GUNG 21 HO ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 22 SO I BELIEVE THAT ANN RANSFORD I WOULD PUT 23 FORWARD THAT SHE IS THE ONLY TRUSTEE THAT WE SHOULD VOTE 24 FOR. 25 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? MARCH 22, 2012 185 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I LOOKED AT S4, AND YOU 3 DO KNOW I WAS A MEMBER OF THE CCCT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND 4 WAS TERMED OUT. BUT WHILE ON THAT BOARD, WE HAD GOTTEN 5 THESE RESOLUTIONS ONCE A YEAR. AND EACH TIME -- THE LAST 6 TIME WE REALLY DIDN'T VOTE ON IT BECAUSE WE WERE DEALING 7 WITH SO MANY OTHER THINGS. BUT THE FIRST TIME -- OR THE 8 YEAR BEFORE THAT, WE DISCUSSED THE CANDIDATES AND WE DID 9 VOTE ON WHO WE WANTED TO SUPPORT. SO THERE ARE EIGHT 10 SEATS AVAILABLE. 11 AND I LOOKED AT IT JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY 12 THAN YOU DID. 13 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW HAPPENED WHEN THE 14 STATE CHANCELLOR AND THE TEAM PRESENTED THE STUDENT 15 SUCCESS PLAN, THAT THE FIRST GROUP TO SUPPORT THIS PLAN 16 WAS THE CCCT BOARD. AND SO YOU HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO 17 HAVE AN ASTERISK BY THEIR NAMES, THEY ARE INCUMBENTS ON 18 THE CCCT BOARD, AND THEY REALLY SUPPORTED THE STATE 19 CHANCELLOR IN THE STUDENT SUCCESS PLAN. 20 WHEN I WENT TO THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS AND I 21 TALKED ABOUT OUR RESOLUTION, I SAW SEVERAL OF THESE -- THE 22 PEOPLE THERE. AND THEY ARE REAL ADAMANT ABOUT THEIR 23 SUPPORT OF THE STUDENT SUCCESS PLAN, AND THAT'S DIFFERENT 24 FROM I THINK WHAT THE BOARD VOTED ON AND WHAT THEY ARE 25 THINKING. MARCH 22, 2012 186 1 AND I THINK THERE'S ALSO -- WE ALSO WANTED TO 2 HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS. WE WANTED TO 3 LOOK AT PARTS OF IT. AND I THINK WE CAN AGREE THAT PARTS 4 OF IT WE MAY AGREE WITH, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PARTS THAT 5 WE DON'T AGREE WITH. 6 THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED WHEN WE VOTED TWO 7 YEARS AGO, WE LOOKED AT HOW IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO HOLD 8 THE PEOPLE -- THE CANDIDATES THAT WE SUPPORTED 9 ACCOUNTABLE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REAL STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT 10 A LOT OF THINGS. WE HAVE STRONG FEELS ABOUT THEM. THE 11 STUDENT SUCCESS. WE HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THE BUDGET 12 OR LACK OF. WE HAVE VERY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT HOW WE RUN 13 OUR COLLEGE, OUR CAMPUSES AND -- BECAUSE I THINK WE KNOW 14 THAT WE KNOW THE COMMUNITIES BETTER THAN PEOPLE IN 15 SACRAMENTO. 16 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND 17 THAT YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE INCUMBENTS WITH AN 18 ASTERISK BY THEIR NAMES, AND KNOW THAT I THINK IT WAS 19 UNANIMOUS WHEN THEY VOTED FOR THE STUDENT SUCCESS PLAN. 20 I KNOW ONE PERSON PERSONALLY. AND SHE IS A HARD 21 WORKER AT THE COMPTON COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. I KNOW 22 CHRIS STAMPOLIS VERY WELL AS WELL. BUT I WOULD 23 RECOMMEND -- WE HAVE EIGHT NAMES THAT WE CAN VOTE ON 24 FOR -- NOT SEVEN. 25 COUNSEL DICKEY: IT SAYS, "EIGHT." MARCH 22, 2012 187 1 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: IT'S EIGHT. SO I AM 2 GOING TO RECOMMEND -- WHAT IS HER NAME -- DEBORAH LEBLANC 3 AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT BECAUSE I 4 DO KNOW OF HER WORK. AND SHE IS NOT ON THE BOARD. AND 5 SHE DIDN'T SUPPORT STUDENT SUCCESS. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I ACTUALLY E-MAILED HER. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YOU DID? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND HER RESPONSE WAS BASICALLY 11 THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD -- WE CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO DO STUDENT 12 SUCCESS. I MEAN THAT WAS -- 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OH, REALLY. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- WHAT I REMEMBER GETTING 15 FROM HER. I LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, THE BOG WAIVERS, ET 16 CETERA, ET CETERA. AND SHE SAID, WELL, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, 17 BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD 18 IT ANYMORE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THAT SURPRISES ME. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: ALL RIGHT. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: IS THERE A MOTION -- 23 TRUSTEE BERG: SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 24 TRUSTEE WONG: -- TO RECOMMEND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE CAN TAKE THESE ONE BY MARCH 22, 2012 188 1 ONE IF WE WANT. I MEAN I THINK ANN RANSFORD IS THE ONLY 2 ONE I AM GOING TO SUPPORT. 3 DOES ANYONE WANT TO MOVE HER? 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN I ASK A QUESTION? 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HOW LONG DO WE HAVE -- DO WE 7 HAVE TO VOTE THIS MONTH? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S DUE NO 10 LATER THAN APRIL 25TH. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IN THE FUTURE, I MEAN IN THE 12 FUTURE CAN WE DO THIS LIKE ONE MONTH -- BECAUSE I LOVE 13 THAT DESCRIPTION -- I WOULD JUST LOVE -- AFTER YOU GIVE A 14 DESCRIPTION THAN I CAN ACTUALLY DO MY RESEARCH. 15 SO NEXT YEAR, CAN WE DO THIS MAYBE TWO MONTHS IN 16 ADVANCE, AND SO WE GET AN IDEA -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU 17 TALKED -- 18 TRUSTEE GRIER, YOU TALKED TO A LOT OF THESE 19 FOLKS. YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE TRUSTEES STATEWIDE. WE CAN 20 GET THAT WONDERFUL DESCRIPTION AND THEN WE HAVE A MONTH TO 21 KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MAKE OUR DECISIONS AND THEN THE NEXT 22 MONTH AHEAD WE KIND OF VOTE. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, YOU 23 KNOW -- I FEEL LIKE I DON'T KNOW -- 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WELL, THEY ARE ALL GOOD 25 PEOPLE. MARCH 22, 2012 189 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: BUT IN FACT THE MEASURE 3 IS HOW THEY RELATE TO THE STUDENT SUCCESS PLAN. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AND THEY REALLY SUPPORTED 6 IT UNANIMOUSLY. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH 9 THAT. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. SO I GUESS I AM NOT 11 GOING TO SUPPORT ANY OF THE INCUMBENTS. THAT WOULD BE MY 12 MOTION NOT TO SUPPORT ANY OF THE INCUMBENTS. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN 14 WE COULD GO THROUGH THESE ONE ON ONE. I THINK IT'S FINE 15 NOT TO SUPPORT THE INCUMBENTS. I AGREE WITH, TRUSTEE 16 GRIER, THEY DID ALL VOTE FOR IT. 17 I AM CHECKING MY E-MAIL TO SEE IF I AM RIGHT 18 ABOUT LABLANC OR IF I HAVE THE NAME WRONG. 19 SINCE YOU KNOW HER, I THINK I NEED TO -- 20 TRUSTEE BERG: SHE WASN'T -- SHE WASN'T ON THE 21 BOARD. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, SHE WASN'T. SHE'S NOT AN 23 INCUMBENT, NO. 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: NO, BUT HE SAID HE 25 CONTACTED HER. MARCH 22, 2012 190 1 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THE 3 RESPONSE, BUT THAT WAS MY FAULTY MEMORY. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: SO THERE'S FIVE. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: COUNTING HER. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: COUNTING HER. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: INCLUDING -- THERE WILL BE FIVE. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IN THE RESOLVED WE HAVE 10 TO CAST -- WE CAN SUBMIT A TOTAL OF SEVEN VOTES. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: A TOTAL OF SEVEN. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S FIVE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE 15 SEVEN. WE DON'T HAVE TO. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: NO, WE DON'T. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT CAN BE ZERO. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE COULD DO ZERO WHICH WE'VE 20 DONE IN THE PAST. 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YEAH, RIGHT. EXACTLY. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I TEND TO AGREE WITH 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO ON THIS ONE. 24 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WHAT'S THAT? 25 TRUSTEE WONG: WHICH IS? MARCH 22, 2012 191 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: JUST ONE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: WITH ANN? 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: ANN RANSFORD. 4 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WELL, HE IS CHECKING. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN, DR. GRIER, YOU SPOKE 6 WONDERFULLY ABOUT MS. DEBORAH LEBLANC. WERE THERE OTHER 7 STUFF OTHER THAN -- BECAUSE I KNOW JOHN. I MEAN IT IS 8 REALLY BAD TO ONLY DO ONE OR LIKE NONE. I MEAN -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DID NONE LAST YEAR. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- WHAT WERE THE QUALITIES 11 THAT YOU SAW IN DEBORAH THAT MADE YOU WANT TO SUPPORT HER? 12 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WELL, I WORKED WITH HER 13 WHEN THEY -- COMPTON REALLY LOST ITS ACCREDITATION. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 15 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AND SHE WAS HARD WORKING, 16 JUST A GOOD BOARD MEMBER, CARED ABOUT HER STUDENTS, KNEW 17 HER COMMUNITY VERY WELL. AND SHE WAS VERY ACTIVE. SO 18 THAT'S WHAT I KNOW ABOUT IT. 19 BUT, NO, I DIDN'T TALK TO HER LIKE TRUSTEE RIZZO 20 DID. AND I DIDN'T GET COMMENTS FROM HER THAT, YOU KNOW, 21 SHE SUPPORTS STUDENT SUCCESS. I DIDN'T DO THAT. WELL, 22 BECAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T COME UP. I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT 23 THAT, SO I AM SURPRISED. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: LET'S JUST GET THIS OVER WITH. 25 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WE SHOULD VOTE. MARCH 22, 2012 192 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE SHOULD VOTE. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: NON INCUMBENTS. VOTE FOR ALL THE 3 NON INCUMBENTS. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THE NON INCUMBENTS. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN WE JUST -- CAN I MAKE A 7 MOTION JUST TO VOTE FOR ANN. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, YOU CAN. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I SEE. I 10 MOVE THAT WE JUST VOTE FOR ANN RANSFORD FROM GLENDALE 11 COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE COULD TAKE OTHERS AS 13 WELL. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL SECOND THAT 15 ACTUALLY. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, BECAUSE IF SHE IS THE 17 ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T SUPPORT STUDENT SUCCESS THEN -- 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: DID YOU FIND -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I FOUND THAT THE ONE I WAS 20 THINKING OF, THE STRONG SUPPORTER -- 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: DID IT SAY SHE DID? 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WAS WHO? 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS NOT DEBORAH LEBLANC. 24 IT WAS MARSHA ZABLECKIS. 25 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY, SO WE COULD VOTE MARCH 22, 2012 193 1 FOR DEBORAH LEBLANC. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL -- 4 TRUSTEE BERG: MARSHA ZABLECKIS WAS A STUDENT 5 SUCCESS. SHE IS AN INCUMBENT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER, I WILL SUPPORT 7 HER ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO DEBORAH AND ANN. 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: MARSHA -- 11 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S ANN AND MARSHA. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, NOT MARSHA, DEBORAH 13 LABLANC. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: DEBORAH AND ANN. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND ANN. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: AND ANN, YES. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THOSE TWO? 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO I MOVE THAT WE SUPPORT AS A 19 BOARD ANN H RUTHERFORD -- 20 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: -- RANSFORD. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: RANSFORD, SORRY IT'S LATE. 22 AND DEBORAH LABLANC. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL SECOND THAT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, LET'S TAKE SOME PUBLIC MARCH 22, 2012 194 1 COMMENT ON THAT. 2 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 3 TRUSTEE NGO: BOARD DISCUSSION? 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, BOARD DISCUSSION. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I THINK IT IS INCREDIBLY 6 PROVINCIAL FOR US TO USE THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS AS 7 A LITMUS TEST FOR THESE CANDIDATES. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK 8 THAT WE HAVE A MORE BROAD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ADVOCATES 9 AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM STATEWIDE ACTUALLY DO. 10 I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY OF THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE AS 11 IT RELATES TO PROP 209 FOR EXAMPLE. DOES ANYONE KNOW 12 THAT? 13 IF WE ARE VOTING DOWN ADVOCATES OF OVERTURNING 14 209 OR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, HAVE YOU ASKED THAT? 15 DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, HAVE YOU ASKED IT? 17 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, I HAVEN'T. I DON'T PLAN TO 18 VOTE ON THIS. THIS IS NOT MY LITMUS TEST. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THESE 21 INCUMBENTS ALSO ADAMANTLY SUPPORT THE DREAM ACT? DO YOU 22 CARE IF THEY SUPPORT THE DREAM ACT OR NOT? ARE YOU LOSING 23 ADVOCATES FOR THE DREAM ACT AT THE STATE LEVEL BECAUSE OF 24 THIS KIND OF INTERESTING FRAME OF THINKING ABOUT OUR WORK? 25 I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THESE PEOPLE SUPPORT MARCH 22, 2012 195 1 MARRIAGE EQUALITY OR THEY DON'T. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE 2 FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MARRIAGE RIGHTS FOR 3 EVERYONE. I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE'S POSITIONS ON THINGS 4 AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE THEM TO THE LEGISLATURE. 5 SO THIS EXERCISE HAPPENS EVERY YEAR, AND I 6 HONESTLY FIND IT A LITTLE POINTLESS. 7 YOU KNOW, I KNOW TRUSTEE BERG ACTUALLY IS ON THE 8 BOARD OF GOVERNORS. SHE DIDN'T VOTE, "NO." 9 TRUSTEE BERG: THIS IS NOT -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT THIS IS NOT BOARD -- 11 TRUSTEE BERG: THIS IS NOT THE BOARD OF 12 GOVERNORS. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW THAT. BUT WE ARE LOOKING 14 AT A LITMUS TEST. I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE VOTED. I THINK 15 SHE ABSTAINED ON A VOTE. DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? 16 DOES THAT MEAN YOU DON'T SUPPORT HER FOR THIS STATE BOARD? 17 WHAT IS ABSTENTION RELATIVE TO A "YES" VOTE OR "NO" VOTE. 18 DOES ANYONE -- I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT CONDEMN 19 TRUSTEE BERG'S LIFETIME OF WORK SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE VOTED 20 TO ABSTAIN HERSELF AS OPPOSED TO AN ADAMANT "NO." 21 I JUST I THINK WE'RE -- FIRST OF ALL, I DO 22 SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS WAS A COMPROMISE OF THE 23 BOARD BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO PUT OUR OWN EQUITY MEASURES 24 OR SUPPORT FOR OUR OWN EQUITY WORK IN THE RESOLUTION. I 25 WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR IT OTHERWISE. MARCH 22, 2012 196 1 BUT YOU WILL FIND A LOT OF THE WORK ON EQUITY 2 HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY TAKEN UP BY THE TASK FORCE. THE WORK 3 WE'VE ALREADY DONE AT CITY COLLEGE HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY 4 THE BOARD TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE. THINKING ABOUT HOW WE 5 DO BASIC SKILLS CURRICULUM, FOR EXAMPLE, GETTING MORE 6 CLASSES PER DEMAND. CHEMISTRY CLASSES SHOULD BE IN DEMAND 7 RELATIVE TO CERAMICS CLASSES. NO OFFENSE TO THE CERAMICS 8 FOLKS, BUT THAT'S RATIONING TO IF WE ARE HAVING STUDENTS 9 SIT OUT OF CLASS, THEY CAN'T GET CHEMISTRY CLASS, THAT'S 10 RATIONING. NO ONE TAKES A PHOTO OF THEM AND WRITES A 11 STORY ABOUT THEM AND HOW THEY WOULD IN FACT CHANGE THEIR 12 LIFE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THESE CLASSES. 13 THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE -- I DON'T LIKE THAT 14 WE ARE PICKING OUT ONE PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION OUT OF 15 SERIES OF THEM. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE BOG WAIVER CUT 16 OFF, FOR EXAMPLE, ENTIRELY, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS 17 KIND OF REACTION TO A VERY COMPLICATED SET OF MEASURES AND 18 THEN HOLDING THAT AS A MEASURE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN 19 WORKING ON THIS -- WORKING ON THIS BOARD IT SEEMS LIKE FOR 20 SEVERAL YEARS AT LEAST WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THEIR 21 POSITIONS ON OTHER ISSUES OF EDUCATIONAL CONCERN. 22 I DON'T KNOW ANN RANSFORD BELIEVES THAT -- IF 23 SHE ENDORSED THE MILLIONAIRES' TAX. DOES ANYONE KNOW 24 THAT? DOES THAT MATTER TO YOU? SO -- 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DON'T. MARCH 22, 2012 197 1 TRUSTEE NGO: EXACTLY. SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE 2 A LITTLE MORE, IN MY OPINION, BROAD-MINDED ABOUT THESE 3 VOTES. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE. I 6 DON'T THINK THIS EXERCISE IS VERY USEFUL. AND CERTAINLY 7 THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT IS NOT VERY CONSTRUCTIVE IN MY 8 OPINION. I WILL BE VOTING, "NO." 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GREY -- GRIER. 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THE REALITY OF THIS -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SORRY ABOUT THAT. 12 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: -- IS THAT EACH YEAR WE 13 GET INFORMATION. WE DO A RESOLUTION. WE LIST -- WE GET A 14 LIST OF PERSONS WHO ARE RUNNING, PERSONS WHO ARE 15 CANDIDATES, AND WE GET A BIOGRAPHIC SKETCH FORM, AND 16 THAT'S WHAT WE USE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DECISION. 17 AND I THINK EVERYBODY MUST HAVE READ THE BIOS. 18 AND YOU HAD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT I HAPPEN TO HAVE 19 AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT TRUSTEE RIZZO HAD. 20 THE REALITY IS, AND THE WAY IT WORKS, IS THAT 21 YOU GET THE BIO SKETCH FORM. YOU DON'T GET TO INTERVIEW 22 THEM. YOU DON'T GET TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS. YOU DON'T GET 23 TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR HISTORY UNLESS IT'S IN BIO THAT'S LIKE 24 TWO OR THREE PAGES. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR. 25 THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD THE YEAR BEFORE. THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD MARCH 22, 2012 198 1 THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S THE PROCESS. 2 AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU DON'T VOTE BECAUSE 3 YOU DON'T WHAT THEY SUPPORT OR WHERE THEY STAND ON OTHER 4 ISSUES. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FURTHER DISCUSSION? 6 I WILL SAY THAT I TRACKED DOWN E-MAIL ADDRESSES. 7 I WENT TO THEIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE SITES, BOARD SITES TO 8 SEE IF THEY HAD THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESS. I ASKED OTHER 9 PEOPLE IF THEY KNEW THEM. SO I MEAN ANYBODY COULD HAVE 10 DONE THAT AND ASKED ABOUT ANY ISSUE THEY WANTED TO, SO 11 THIS IS ONE ISSUE I CARE ABOUT SO. IT'S ACTUALLY MORE 12 THAN ONE ISSUE. IT'S A SERIES OF ISSUES. 13 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 14 OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 15 MR. SCOTT: RODGER SCOTT AGAIN. 16 I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH MY COMRADE. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: COMRADE? 18 MR. SCOTT: TRUSTEE GO -- NGO. I THINK HE -- I 19 AGREE IN THEORY THAT WE OFTEN OVERDO THE LITMUS TEST 20 PROCESS. HE ALSO CONTRADICTED HIMSELF IN MY VIEW WHEN HE 21 SAID THAT THAT'S PROVINCIAL AND INAPPROPRIATE IN THIS 22 CASE, BUT THEN HE SAID THAT HE WOULDN'T VOTE FOR ANYBODY 23 WHO DIDN'T SUPPORT MARRIAGE EQUALITY, WHICH IS A BIT OF A 24 CONTRADICTION I THINK. 25 I BELIEVE THAT WHEN PEOPLE IN THIS POSITION MARCH 22, 2012 199 1 SUPPORT THE STUDENT TASK FORCE PLAN OR RECOMMENDATIONS, I 2 DON'T THINK THAT'S A SIMPLE ISSUE. I THINK THAT 3 REPRESENTS A VERY BROAD POSITION, A VERY BROAD PHILOSOPHY 4 THAT'S ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. I CAN SAY -- I CAN USE ANY NUMBER 5 OF ADJECTIVES TO DESCRIBE THAT KIND OF BACKWARD THINKING, 6 SO I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO NOT SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO GO ON 7 RECORD AS SUPPORTING STUDENT TASK FORCE PLAN THAT NONE OF 8 US HERE PROBABLY IN THIS ROOM AGREE WITH. THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT. 10 MS. GOLDSTEIN: GUS GOLDSTEIN, AFT 2121, GOOD 11 EVENING. 12 I JUST WANT TO COMMEND TRUSTEE RIZZO ON HIS 13 ATTEMPT TO DO SOME REAL RESEARCH ON THESE CANDIDATES. AND 14 I KNOW IT WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE WAYS TO GET THE 15 RESEARCH WERE BLOCKED TO SOME DEGREE. YOU REALLY HAD TO 16 BE CREATIVE IN ORDER TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT HE DID. 17 IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT OTHER ISSUES WERE NOT DISCUSSED AS 18 WELL PERHAPS. 19 BUT I DO THINK IN THIS CASE WITH A STRONG 20 SENTIMENT ON THIS CAMPUS AND THE STRONG SENTIMENT ON THE 21 BOARD FOR THE MOST PART ABOUT THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK 22 FORCE, THAT IT WAS AN ESSENTIAL QUESTION TO ASK AND SO I 23 THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 25 OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. MARCH 22, 2012 200 1 LAST DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD. 2 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 5 "AYE." 6 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 14 NO. OKAY, WE HAVE TWO NOES? TWO NOES. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: WHO ARE WE VOTING FOR? JUST THE 16 TWO. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: JUST THE TWO, YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: ANN RANSFORD AND DEBORAH LABLANC. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR 20 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO TRUSTEES' 21 REPORTS. 22 AND, TRUSTEES, IF YOU'VE CHAIRED A COMMITTEE IN 23 THE -- SINCE OUR LAST MEETING AND YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT 24 IT TONIGHT, PERHAPS YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE, GIVE US A 25 REPORT ON WHAT WENT ON. MARCH 22, 2012 201 1 I KNOW WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT POLICY COMMITTEE 2 PRETTY THOROUGHLY. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: RIGHT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT I WILL DO MINE AND 5 EVERYONE CAN DO THEIRS. 6 TRUSTEE -- STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MY REPORT NOW? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: OKAY, SO I HAVE FOUR 10 THINGS. FIRST, THE ASSOCIATED STUDENT EXECUTIVE BOARD HAD 11 THEIR MEETING THIS AFTERNOON. AND IN OUR MEETING WE 12 DISCUSSED A BIT ABOUT EXPANSION OF SHARED GOVERNANCE 13 APPOINTMENT AUTHORITY, SO THAT WOULD ALLOW MORE A.S. TO 14 ACTUALLY PARTAKE AND CONTRIBUTE. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT OUR 15 INCOMING ELECTIONS, SOME OF THE PROCEDURES AND POSSIBLE, 16 YOU KNOW, TO TIGHTENING THE RULES AND MAKING SURE IT'S 17 TRANSPARENT. AND WE TALKED ABOUT A PROJECT TO TRY TO A 18 DISCOUNT ON CLIPPER CARDS FOR STUDENTS SO THAT'S BEEN A 19 PROJECT WE ARE GOING TO WORK VERY HARD ON. AND, 20 HOPEFULLY, WE CAN ENGAGE EVERYBODY'S HELP ON THIS ONE. 21 AND ALSO WE JUST DEBRIEFED ON MARCH IN MARCH AND 22 OTHER ISSUES AS WELL. THE MARCH IN MARCH, THE GENERAL 23 CONSENSUS, THE GENERAL FEELING OF THE CAMPUS PRESENT, WAS 24 THAT THEY REALLY ENJOYED A CIVIC ENGAGEMENT. THEY FOUND 25 THAT, YOU KNOW, THOUGH IT MAY BE -- THE MESSAGE MAY NOT MARCH 22, 2012 202 1 SEEM TO GET THROUGH RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY FIND THAT 2 EXERCISE ACTUALLY MEANINGFUL. THEY SEE A REAL MEANING IN 3 GETTING THE MESSAGE THROUGH EVENTUALLY, AND THEY ACTUALLY 4 LIKE IT. 5 THE ALSO -- UP AND DOWN THE STATE I -- AS A 6 REGIONAL SENATOR, REGION 3 SENATOR OF THE STUDENTS STAND 7 UP FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I HAVE DILIGENTLY 8 WORKED ON SSTF RELATED ISSUE IN EXECUTING OUR OWN 9 RESOLUTION OF A BOARD TO OPPOSE THE PACKAGE AND DISCUSS 10 AND TRYING TO TEASE OUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY WORTHY OF 11 IMPLEMENT. THOUGH THE PACKAGE ITSELF IS WHAT WE DO 12 OPPOSING. I'VE BEEN FACED WITH EXECUTING THAT. AND TO 13 THAT, I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO MANY OF THE STATE CHANCELLORS 14 COMMITTEE TO WORK ON THAT ISSUE. 15 AND THIS COMING SATURDAY, BERKELEY CITY COLLEGE 16 FROM NOON TO 3:00, I BELIEVE IT'S THE CONFERENCE ROOM 17 REGION 3, A SUBREGION OF THE SSCCC, WE WILL HAVE OUR 18 MONTHLY MEETING. AND I ENCOURAGE IF ANY OF THE TRUSTEES 19 OR ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE TIME, PLEASE DO 20 COME AND WATCH OTHER COLLEGE STUDENTS GET TOGETHER AND TRY 21 TO WORK ON THINGS COLLABORATIVELY. THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, STUDENT TRUSTEE 23 FANG. 24 TRUSTEE WONG, WOULD YOU, PLEASE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: YES, THANK YOU, PRESIDENT RIZZO. MARCH 22, 2012 203 1 AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE BOARD WHO SUPPORTED THE 2 DONOR WALL AT OUR NEW CAMPUS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO 3 CONTINUE TO SEND THOSE POSITIVE NOTES OF APPRECIATION. 4 I JUST -- TODAY THIS EVENING WE PASSED A 5 RESOLUTION ACCEPTING SOME GIFTS. AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF 6 YOU OUT THERE, MANY IN THE CITY COLLEGE COMMUNITY, MANY IN 7 SAN FRANCISCO WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO CITY COLLEGE IN 8 DIFFERENT WAYS AND THAT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. 9 BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY COLLEAGUE, TRUSTEE 10 NATALIE BERG, WHO DONATED JUST THIS -- ACTUALLY JUST IN 11 THIS ONE RESOLUTION, I KNOW SHE HAS DONATED MORE. $9,200 12 TO CITY COLLEGE. SO I THINK WE REALLY SHOULD THANK HER 13 PUBLICLY. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU, LAWRENCE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: AND ALSO SOME OF US KNOW BUT I 16 THINK WE ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT TRUSTEE BERG HAS BEEN 17 SELECTED TO RECEIVE THE SPECIAL DISTINGUISHED SERVICE 18 AWARD BY THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF JEWISH 19 VOCATIONAL SERVICES. IT'S QUITE AN HONOR SO 20 CONGRATULATIONS, NATALIE. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LAWRENCE. 22 YOU ARE MAKING ME BLUSH. ENOUGH. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU ARE UP. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT TO -- MARCH 22, 2012 204 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. I 3 APPRECIATE THAT GREATLY. 4 I WANT TO COMMEND ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, ONE OF 5 OUR MANY EXCELLENT AND OUTSTANDING DEPARTMENTS, AND THIS 6 ONE HAPPENS TO BE THE CULINARY PROGRAM AT CITY COLLEGE WHO 7 PUT ON AN EVENT FOR ME. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I 8 SHOWCASE THEM FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE BECAUSE KEITH 9 HAMMERICH, WHO IS THE MASTER CHIEF, DID AN ABSOLUTELY 10 AMAZING JOB. 11 AND I LISTENED TO HIM WITH THE CADRE OF 12 STUDENTS. I LISTENED TO HIM TEACH THEM AS HE SAID, DON'T 13 DO THIS OR THIS IS WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS, AND THIS IS WHY 14 YOU ARE NOT DOING THIS. AND IT WAS WONDERFUL LISTENING TO 15 HIM BECAUSE I WAS LEARNING. I WAS JUST STANDING HANGING 16 OUT SO I COULD LEARN TOO. 17 AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT THE STUDENTS WHO 18 WERE THERE. THEY WERE WONDERFUL. GEORGEANNA SMITH, 19 ROXANNE RUFENACHTD, LINDA -- THIS ONE I AM PROBABLY GOING 20 TO MASSACRE BOENDIARTO AND THEN, OF COURSE, KEITH. THEY 21 WERE WONDERFUL. THEY'RE WONDERFUL STUDENTS, AND WE SHOULD 22 ALL KNOW WHAT AN OUTSTANDING PROGRAM THIS IS. IT'S REALLY 23 EXCEPTIONAL. AND I USE THEM AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY I HAVE. 24 THEY ARE WONDERFUL, VERY PROFESSIONAL, AND EXTRAORDINARILY 25 WELL TRAINED. MARCH 22, 2012 205 1 SO I COMMEND THE CULINARY ARTS PROGRAM FROM CITY 2 COLLEGE. THANK YOU. 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THEY ARE THE BEST. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: THEY ARE THE BEST. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I AM THANKFUL. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT 8 RIZZO. 9 LAST MONTH WAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND I KNOW 10 THAT A LOT OF ACTIVITIES HAPPENED ON THE MANY CAMPUSES 11 HERE AT CITY COLLEGE. BUT WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DO DURING 12 BLACK HISTORY MONTH WAS TO DO A READ IN AND I CHOOSE 13 DR. GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT OFF 14 OF 3RD STREET. 15 AND WHEN I WENT OVER TO DO OR PARTICIPATE IN THE 16 READ-IN, I ACTUALLY WANTED A THIRD GRADE CLASS BECAUSE I 17 JUST LIKE THIRD GRADERS. I WAS DRAFTED TO GO INTO A 18 SECOND GRADE CLASS. SO I WENT INTO THE CLASSROOM, AND 19 THEY WERE ALL SITTING ON THEIR CARPET ON THE FLOOR. AND 20 THEY WERE VERY WELL-MANNERED, EXCELLENT STUDENTS. IT WAS 21 A SMALL CLASS. IT WAS MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT 20, 21 22 STUDENTS. NO, THAT'S NOT SMALL. IT WAS LARGE. 23 BUT ANYWAYS, IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL. SO I GOT TO 24 TELL STUDENTS WHO I WAS AND WHAT I DID. AND THEY GOT TO 25 TELL ME WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT THEY LIKED TO DO. AND SO MARCH 22, 2012 206 1 WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT I -- I TOLD THEM I WORK AT A 2 COLLEGE. AND THEY JUST FOUND IT REAL EXCITING. 3 SO IN BETWEEN MY READING AND AFTERWARDS WHEN WE 4 HAD A SNACK, THEY KEPT ASKING ABOUT A COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, 5 WHAT DO YOU DO AT COLLEGE. AND THEY WERE SO INTERESTED, I 6 TOLD THE TEACHER THAT I WAS GOING TO PLAN A FIELD TRIP FOR 7 THEM TO COME TO MY COLLEGE AND SEE WHAT COLLEGE IS ALL 8 ABOUT. 9 SO I'M -- AND I THINK I HAVE ALL THE FUNDS I 10 NEED TO DO THAT. PEOPLE WERE JUST SO GENEROUS, AND SO 11 WANTING TO HELP, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS AND STUDENTS. SO DON'T 12 BE SURPRISED ONE DAY I AM GOING TO BRING 20 STUDENTS UP TO 13 THE CAMPUS, AND WE ARE GOING TO GO ON THE FIELD TRIP. AND 14 THE HIGHLIGHT WILL BE HAVING LUNCH IN THE PIERRE COSTE OR 15 IN THE CAFETERIA. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO THAT'S WHAT I PLAN TO 19 DO. IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. 20 I ALSO WENT TO THE MARCH IN MARCH WITH THE 21 CHANCELLOR. WE RODE DOWN TOGETHER. AND THERE WAS A LOT 22 OF EXCITEMENT. THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTION. THERE WERE -- 23 HISTORY BEING CHANGED RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES. I DO THINK 24 IT IS A GOOD THING TO DO. AND EVEN IF WE DON'T BENEFIT 25 IMMEDIATELY, I THINK LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD WE WILL BE MARCH 22, 2012 207 1 SUCCESSFUL. 2 I ALSO PLAN TO GO TO MORE BOG MEETINGS BECAUSE 3 IT REALLY IS AN HONOR AND SPECIAL THING FOR DR. BERG TO BE 4 ON THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS. SHE WILL BE OUR VOICE THERE. 5 AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE BOARD THINKS AND 6 HOW THEY ARE MAKING PROGRESS. 7 I THINK THAT THEY HAVE IMPROVED AS FAR AS I AM 8 CONCERNED FROM WHERE THEY WERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 9 SCHOOL YEAR. I STILL DON'T THINK THAT THEY DO REAL WELL 10 IN TERMS OF DOLING OUT THE MONEY OR MAKING THE BEST 11 DECISIONS, BUT THERE'S HOPE. AND I PLAN TO PARTICIPATE, 12 AND I PLAN TO BE A VOICE THERE AND ADVOCATE FOR OUR 13 STUDENTS AND ADVOCATE FOR OUR COLLEGE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NICE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: THERE HAVE BEEN TWO 18 INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS COMMITTEE MEETINGS. ONE IN 19 FEBRUARY ON THE 16TH AND ONE ON MARCH 8TH. THE ITEMS ON 20 THE AGENDA WERE A DISCUSSION OF THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS PLANS 21 AND APPROACHING THE COMPUTER INDUSTRY FOR GRANTS. 22 THE MARCH 8TH, THE DISCUSSION WAS A CONTINUATION 23 OF DISCUSSION ON APPROACHING THE COMPUTER INDUSTRY FOR 24 GRANTS. PROGRESS REPORT ON SHARED GOVERNANCE EVALUATION 25 AND A PROGRESS REPORT ON AND AN UPDATE OF THE EDUCATION MARCH 22, 2012 208 1 MASTER PLAN. 2 THE NEXT ITEM -- THE NEXT, I.E. COMMITTEE 3 MEETING WILL BE ON APRIL 12TH AT 5:30. AND I WOULD LIKE 4 THAT -- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT BE A STANDING COMMITTEE. 5 AND SO WE WILL BE DISCUSSING A CONTINUATION OF THE 6 DISCUSSION ON APPROACHING THE COMPUTER INDUSTRY FOR GRANTS 7 AND THE PROGRESS REPORT ON THE DIVERSITY PLANS FROM THE 8 CHANCELLOR. THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 10 TRUSTEE NGO. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: WE'VE HAD TWO BUDGET COMMITTEE 12 MEETINGS SINCE THE LAST MEETING. AND THOSE ARE THE FIRST 13 TWO SUBSTANTIVE BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD FOR 14 THE YEAR, THE 2012-2013 BUDGET. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE HAD 15 A THIRD -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS CANCELED THIS -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- BUT IT WAS CANCELED BECAUSE 18 OF -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YESTERDAY. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THE TRIAGE AROUND THE 21 ACCREDITATION AND THE AUDIT AND THE BUDGETS AND OTHER 22 FINANCIAL ISSUES. 23 OTHERWISE, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO 24 REPORT. THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS COMING UP APRIL 16TH AS I 25 MENTIONED TONIGHT. AND OUR NEXT BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING MARCH 22, 2012 209 1 WILL BE ON APRIL 4TH. AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF MY 2 COLLEAGUES IF THEY DO HAVE ITEMS THEY WANT TO AGENDIZE OR 3 ACTION ITEMS FOR THE 2012-2013 BUDGET TO LET ME KNOW AHEAD 4 OF TIME AND WE'LL AGENDIZE IT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY, SO I AM GOING TO 9 ANNOUNCE TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT I AM GOING TO PUT FORTH TO 10 THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. ONE IS GOING TO BE CITY COLLEGE 11 ACTUALLY HOLDS OUR MONEY -- YOU KNOW, WELL, IT USED TO BE 12 200 MILLION, NOW RAPIDLY DWINDLING. YOU KNOW, WE HOLD A 13 MAJORITY IN WELLS FARGO BANK. 14 AND UNFORTUNATELY, WELLS FARGO IS ACTUALLY 15 RESPONSIBLE FOR 22 PERCENT OF THE FORECLOSURES HERE IN SAN 16 FRANCISCO, PRIMARILY, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND OMI WHERE DR. 17 GRIER PRESIDES AND IN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, LOW-INCOME 18 AFRICAN AMERICAN AND LATINO FAMILIES. YOU KNOW, WELLS 19 FARGO HAS DONE A LOT OF DAMAGE. 20 SO MY FIRST RESOLUTION WILL BE TO PULL OUR MONEY 21 OUT OF WELLS FARGO AND TO PUT IT INTO A FEDERAL CREDIT 22 UNION. AND SO THAT WILL BE HEARD IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE 23 MEETING. AND WE WILL, HOPEFULLY, GET THAT TO THE BOARD. 24 THE SECOND RESOLUTION THAT WILL PROBABLY ALSO GO 25 INTO THE BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING, AND YOU HEARD MARCH 22, 2012 210 1 MS. ESPANOLA JACKSON, WHO IS THE GRANDMOTHER OF BAYVIEW 2 HUNTERS POINT, IS TO HAVE A DEAN FOR SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 3 A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR 4 LEADERSHIP THERE. YOU KNOW, I THINK TORRENCE HAS DONE A 5 GOOD JOB. I THINK THERE FORMALLY NEEDS TO BE A DEAN OF 6 THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY PROVIDE THE 7 LEADERSHIP AND ADVOCACY, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF THAT 8 CAMPUS. AND SO I WILL BE PUTTING THAT FORTH TO THE BUDGET 9 COMMITTEE AS WELL. 10 I ALSO, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO TRUSTEE GRIER, I 11 DID PARTICIPATE IN A READ-IN. I, YOU KNOW, READ AT A 12 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE TENDERLOIN. I HAD TO READ TO 13 FIVE CLASSES ALL RANGING FROM THE SECOND GRADE TO THE 14 FOURTH GRADE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY COOL. THEY 15 ASKED ME A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 16 ONE WAS HEY, WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MUCH HAIR? WHY 17 ARE YOU WEARING THIS SUIT? CAN YOU READ ANOTHER BOOK? IT 18 WAS ACTUALLY A REALLY COOL KIND OF GIVE AND TAKE. ONE OF 19 THE CLASSES, I DIDN'T EVEN READ A BOOK. I JUST ANSWERED 20 QUESTIONS. AND SO IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY AWESOME. AND IT 21 WAS REALLY GOOD TO HAVE POSITIVE ROLE MODELS IN THE 22 COMMUNITY TO READ TO FOLKS. 23 AND I JUST WANT TO THANK CITIZEN HOPE, WHICH IS 24 ACTUALLY -- YOU KNOW, TRUSTEE NGO IS ACTUALLY A FOUNDER OF 25 AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR HELPING MARCH 22, 2012 211 1 PUT THAT EVENT ON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY GET A LOT 2 OUT OF THAT. 3 THE LAST ISSUE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS JUST 4 REALLY HONESTLY THE DIVISIVENESS THAT'S GOING ON, YOU 5 KNOW, WITHIN THIS CAMPUS. YOU KNOW, WHEN IT GETS TO A 6 POINT THAT WE HAVE TO SEND A LETTER TO ACCREDITATION, YOU 7 KNOW, I HONESTLY THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAS COME TO A 8 HEAD. 9 YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME 10 OF THE STUFF THAT WAS IN THAT LETTER IS LIKE SERIOUSLY, 11 YOU KNOW, THE VESSEL CLASSES, THE PROFESSIONAL ESL 12 CLASSES, THOSE CLASSES WERE CLASSES THAT THE COMMUNITY 13 ASKED FOR. THEY ACTUALLY HAD, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS ALL 14 AROUND IN MISSION CAMPUS, CHINATOWN CAMPUS, AND IN THE 15 VISITACION VALLEY COMMUNITY CENTER ASKING AND REALLY 16 DEMANDING THOSE TYPES OF CLASSES FOR ACCESS TO -- FOR 17 THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE LIMITED ENGLISH SPEAKERS. 18 AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I 19 FEEL PROUD OF THAT. I FEEL PROUD OF GETTING VOCATIONAL 20 CLASSES TO HELP FOLKS GET JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY. I FEEL 21 PROUD OF GETTING THOSE IN CAMPUSES. 22 YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S BEEN HUGE AND 23 THAT WAS RAISED IN A LETTER IS GRACE. YOU KNOW, GRACE DID 24 A GIFT PRIORITY TO STUDENTS TO SIT THERE TO GO TO GRACE. 25 THE REASON IT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS ATTENDING MARCH 22, 2012 212 1 GRACE WAS BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T WANT TO PUT THEIR 2 KIDS IN CHILD CARE IN BAYVIEW. THAT'S JUST REAL. AND SO 3 WHILE IT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF KIDS, IT'S STILL ACTUALLY -- 4 YOU KNOW, STUDENTS DID HAVE A LOT OF PERKS. STUDENTS HAD 5 PRIORITY IN THERE. 6 YOU KNOW, SO I REALLY WANTED TO SET SOME OF 7 THOSE RECORDS STRAIGHT REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE 8 TWO -- YOU KNOW, I REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THE SOUTHEAST. 9 AND SO WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES LIKE PUTTING VOCATIONAL ESL IN 10 THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, WELL, THE COMMUNITY ASKED FOR THAT 11 STUFF. I DIDN'T -- YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T THE FIRST THING 12 THAT CAME TO MY MIND. BUT WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 70 13 PEOPLE COME TO A MEETING AND SAY, WE WANT THAT. 14 YOU KNOW, WE ARE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I REALLY DO 15 BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY PART OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 16 AND WHEN THE COMMUNITY ASKS US FOR STUFF, YOU KNOW, I 17 THINK IT IS OUR JOB TO BE VERY RESPONSIVE TO THAT. 18 AND SO, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT TO GET BEYOND THAT. 19 I WANT TO GET BEYOND MY FEELINGS ON THAT. I WANT US TO 20 COME TOGETHER AND COME AND KIND OF TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE 21 THINK JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE ELSE, IT 22 DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO GO ALL OUT AND HAVE A WAR WITH 23 THAT PERSON. IF WE THINK SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ON AN ISSUE, 24 IT KINDS OF MEANS THAT WE SHOULD CALL THAT PERSON UP, HAVE 25 A CONVERSATION, SIT DOWN AND TALK, AND SEE HOW WE CAN COME MARCH 22, 2012 213 1 TO AN AGREEMENT, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AS A COLLEGE 2 BECAUSE COLLEGE, I THINK MS. THOMAS SAID IT BEST, YOU 3 KNOW, EVEN WHEN WE DO GET SOME MORE MONEY, IT'S NOT GOING 4 TO DO US A LOT OF GOOD IF WE ARE STILL AT EACH OTHER'S 5 NECKS, AND WE ARE STILL SO DIVISIVE. 6 SO, YOU KNOW, I AM WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH 7 FOLKS. I AM WILLING TO TRY TO BRIDGE SOME OF THOSE GAPS 8 OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN FOLKS BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO 9 EVER GIVE UP MY ADVOCACY FOR THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, YOU 10 KNOW, OR ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT HELPS LOW-INCOME STUDENTS 11 WITHIN THIS COLLEGE CAMPUS WIDE. 12 AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OTHER FOLKS ARE GOING TO 13 HAVE THEIR ISSUES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO FIGHT FOR 14 TO. AND IF WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT 15 TO BE OPEN. 16 KAREN, IF WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, I 17 REALLY WANT YOU TO FEEL FREE TO CALL ME OR CALL OTHER 18 FOLKS. AND LET'S WORK WITHIN THE COLLEGE. IF WE CALL 19 OURSELVES A COLLEGE FAMILY, LET'S WORK AS A FAMILY TO GET 20 THESE THINGS DONE AND TO MOVE FORWARD AS A COLLEGE 21 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DIVIDED WE WILL FAIL. UNITED I REALLY 22 DO BELIEVE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO BE ON THE 23 CUTTING EDGE OF INNOVATION AS WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT CITY 24 COLLEGE, SO I JUST WANT TO END MY REPORT ON THAT. 25 AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I AM REACHING MY MARCH 22, 2012 214 1 HAND OUT TO OTHER FOLKS THAT FEEL LIKE THE BOARD IS 2 DISCONNECTED. I AM REACHING MY HAND OUT AND SAYING, HEY, 3 LET'S -- CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT AT LEAST. BUT THOSE 4 MEASURES, THAT CANNOT HAPPEN AND PUT OUR COLLEGE IN 5 DANGER, AND I REALLY WANT US TO WORK TOGETHER. THANK YOU. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAVE A QUESTION. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, TRUSTEE MARKS. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: I JUST WONDER ARE YOU PLANNING 9 TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM WELLS FARGO TO DEFEND THE 10 BANK AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I THINK THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF 12 PEOPLE DEFENDING THEM FOR A LONG TIME. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO, NO. WHAT? 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW 15 PEOPLE. I MEAN I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, BUT THEY 16 HAPPEN TO BE TELLERS AND STUFF. I DON'T REALLY KNOW 17 PEOPLE WHO ARE HIGH LEVEL ENOUGH TO EFFECT A DECISION FROM 18 WELLS FARGO. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN 20 IS THEY ARE JUST GOING TO PUT OUT THE THING TO BID. AND 21 WE EXPECT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT OUT TO BID TO SEE 22 WHO WILL GET THE DISTRICT'S BANKING SERVICES. WE EXPECT 23 THAT A COMMUNITY BANK OR SOMETHING WILL BE CHEAPER THAN 24 THE BIG BANKS, BUT WE WILL SEE. I MEAN IF -- 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. MARCH 22, 2012 215 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- WELLS FARGO, YOU KNOW, 2 TURNS OUT TO BE THE CHEAPEST, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A 3 CONVERSATION THEN. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: ALL RIGHT. OKAY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE 6 TIME. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL GIVE MY REPORT. AT THE 9 FIT COMMITTEE, WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE -- THERE WAS AN 10 AUDIT BY THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE -- OF THE 11 CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S AS PROP 1D BOND FUNDS BY 12 THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. SO IT LOOKED AT 13 FUNDING -- THE BOND FUNDS THAT WE'VE USED FROM THE STATE, 14 SO PERFORMING ARTS HAS $30 MILLION OF THOSE FUNDS IN IT. 15 CHINATOWN HAS SEVERAL TENS OF MILLIONS IN IT. THIS 16 BUILDING DID AS WELL. 17 BUT THE AUDIT LOOKS AT OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES 18 AS WELL, AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE JUST KIND OF THE 19 DIFFERENCES WHERE THEY CALLED OUT DIFFERENT COMMUNITY 20 COLLEGES ARE -- WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT US WAS ACTUALLY 21 PRETTY GOOD. THE ONE DING THEY GAVE US WAS THAT OUR BOND 22 OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HASN'T REPRODUCED A REPORT. LAST YEAR 23 THEY DID NOT PRODUCE A REPORT, WHICH IS A PROBLEM. THEY 24 ARE SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE A REPORT. 25 BUT GIVEN SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD, IT WAS MARCH 22, 2012 216 1 A GOOD REPORT FOR US. I THINK THAT AUDIT WILL BE I THINK 2 PRESENTED AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AS WELL. WE TALKED ABOUT 3 LOCAL HIRING AS WE DO AT EVERY MONTH. 4 AT CHINATOWN, WE ARE UP TO 31 PERCENT OVERALL. 5 MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION AT CHINATOWN IS COMPLETE. SO 6 THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ALL THAT MUCH. THE MAIN 7 BUILDING IS I THINK APRIL. IT'S FINISHED. AND THEN THE 8 ANNEX MAY 9TH IT'S SCHEDULED TO BE FINISHED SO THAT'S 9 PRETTY GOOD. 31 PERCENT IS LIKE MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH 10 AS WE HAD FOR THE MISSION CAMPUS FOR INSTANCE. 11 SO OKAY, LET'S SEE. THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, 12 WE BASICALLY SAID EVERYTHING TONIGHT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE 13 PERFORMING ARTS. 14 WE DID TALK ABOUT LOCAL HIRING FOR THE 15 PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. AN RFP WAS PUT OUT FOR THE 16 COMMUNITY MONITOR. SO RIGHT NOW FOR CHINATOWN, WE HAVE 17 CHINESE FOR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. WE HIRED TO DO THAT AND 18 THEY GAVE US A REPORT AT FIT EVERY MONTH. AND SO WE PUT 19 OUT THAT RFP. WE ACTUALLY HAVE PROPOSALS IN THAT WE 20 RECEIVED, AND THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO PUT 21 TOGETHER A SELECTION COMMITTEE OF HIS STAFF OR WHOEVER IN 22 THE ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT SO 23 WE CAN HIRE SOMEONE. 24 THAT'S ABOUT IT. AND THEN WE, OF COURSE, DID 25 THE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE ON -- THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA MARCH 22, 2012 217 1 TONIGHT. 2 I WANTED TO JUST MENTION TWO ITEMS, THE -- ON 3 MARCH 1ST, IT WAS SORT OF AN EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, 4 EDUCATION PROTEST WEEK ENDING WITH THE MARCH IN 5 SACRAMENTO. 6 MARCH 1ST IN SAN FRANCISCO HERE WE HAD -- THERE 7 WERE TWO EVENTS IN THE CIVIC CENTER PLAZA, BUT ALSO IN THE 8 STATE BUILDING ON GOLDEN GATE BETWEEN GOLDEN GATE AND 9 MCALLISTER. AND IT WAS SORT OF AN OCCUPY EDUCATION EVENT, 10 BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF CITY COLLEGE FACULTY AND STUDENTS 11 PARTICIPATING. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. 12 THE -- IT WAS VERY ORDERLY. THE SECURITY THERE 13 KNEW WE WERE COMING. THEY HAD WORKED IT OUT WITH THE 14 OCCUPY PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY ORGANIZED IT. AND WE KIND OF 15 TOOK OVER THE ROTUNDA THERE AND PEOPLE GAVE SPEECHES. WE 16 HAD A CITY COLLEGE DANCE INSTRUCTOR IN TAILS WHO DANCED 17 AND HAD THE CROWD SINGING ABOUT I THINK IT WAS TAXING THE 18 RICH. 19 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: (INAUDIBLE.) 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, WITH THE CANE. IT WAS 21 PRETTY COOL. 22 MR. SCOTT: THERE IS A VIDEO. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE IS A VIDEO OF THAT, 24 YEAH. SO THAT WAS GREAT. 25 AND THEN AFTER THAT, MOST OF THE PEOPLE LEFT AND MARCH 22, 2012 218 1 THERE WAS KIND OF A SIT-IN THERE WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO 2 GET ARRESTED, SO THEY DID. PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED, BUT IT 3 WAS ALL VERY ORDERLY AND THE SECURITY KNEW IT WAS GOING ON 4 SO. 5 AND THEN THE MARCH IN MARCH, I FOUND IT TO BE 6 THE SAME WAY AS FAR AS THE POLICE GO. THE POLICE WERE 7 VERY, VERY MELLOW. IT WAS A HUGE CROWD, THE BIGGEST CROWD 8 THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE FEW TIMES THAT I HAVE BEEN IN THERE. 9 WE WERE MARCHING UP THE BOULEVARD TO THE CAPITOL. IT WAS 10 HALF THE STREET. IT WAS AN ENTIRE HALF OF THE STREET. 11 AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE -- I THOUGHT THE POLICE WERE 12 GREAT. PEOPLE ON HORSES. PEOPLE ON BICYCLES. IT WAS A 13 GREAT EVENT, A VERY POSITIVE ENERGY. 14 AND THIS YEAR THERE WERE A LOT OF UC STUDENTS 15 INVOLVED. THERE WERE PEOPLE AS FAR AWAY AS UC SAN DIEGO 16 STUDENTS WITH SHIRTS THERE. ALL THE UC'S, I SAW SHIRTS SO 17 THAT WAS -- A VERY POSITIVE ENERGY KIND OF EVENT. 18 I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT THAT ALL THESE STUDENTS 19 FROM THE DIFFERENT FROM THE UC'S, THE STATE, AND THE 20 COMMUNITY COLLEGES COULD MEET EACH OTHER AND TALK ABOUT 21 THE COMMON WOES THAT THE PUBLIC EDUCATION HAS. SO THAT'S 22 MY REPORT. 23 WE NOW HAVE THE CHANCELLOR'S REPORT. 24 DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD FROM WHAT YOU'VE 25 SAID EARLIER? WHICH WASN'T MUCH OF YOURSELF, BUT -- MARCH 22, 2012 219 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: LAST WEEK WAS THE 2 ACCREDITING VISIT FROM THE TEAM. I HAD A LOT OF TIME TO 3 SPEND TALKING TO MEMBERS OF THE TEAM. DR. SANDRA SERRANO 4 FROM KERN, THE CHANCELLOR AT KERN, A DISTRICT 17,000 5 SQUARE MILES IS HER DOMAIN AS OPPOSED TO 49 SQUARE MILES 6 WHICH IS OUR DOMAIN, DID A TERRIFIC JOB. I THINK SHE HAD 7 17 TEAM MEMBERS HERE. AND THEY SPREAD OUT -- THEY MADE A 8 DESPERATE EFFORT TO GET OUT TO SEE ALL THE CAMPUSES. 9 I HAD WARNED THEM, BECAUSE THEY CAME ON A 10 PRE-VISIT AND I SHOWED THEM AROUND, AND I SAYS, IF YOU 11 REALLY TAKE THE JOURNEY TO ALL OF THE CAMPUSES, IT WILL 12 TAKE YOU MORE THAN ONE DAY TO ACTUALLY GO TO EACH CAMPUS, 13 TRAVEL THERE, AND SPEND A HALF OR 45 MINUTES IS GOING TO 14 BURN THE WHOLE DAY UP. SO SHE HAD SEVERAL TEAMS GOING 15 OUT. 16 THEY HAD A VERY GOOD RECEPTION AT THE CAMPUSES. 17 THEY WERE VERY, VERY IMPRESSED. THEY KEPT SAYING WE DON'T 18 KNOW HOW CITY COLLEGE CAN DO ALL OF THIS. AND IN THE END, 19 THEY WROTE IN THEIR REPORT PROBABLY, WE DON'T THINK CITY 20 COLLEGE CAN DO ALL OF THIS. SO IT WAS KIND OF 21 INTERESTING. 22 BUT THE THINGS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, NOT A LOT 23 OF SURPRISES FOR US, BECAUSE PROBABLY EVERYTHING THAT'S 24 GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN THE REPORT WE ALREADY KNEW 25 ABOUT PRIOR TO THEIR BEING HERE. AND JUST TO BE SPECIFIC MARCH 22, 2012 220 1 IN TERMS OF THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, SLO'S WE DID TAKE A SHOT AT 2 THE SLO'S, AND WE DID A PRETTY GOOD START AT IT. BUT IN 3 TERMS OF THE ASSESSMENT SIDE OF IT, I THINK WE ARE PRETTY 4 MUCH AWARE THAT WE HAD NOT COMPLETED ALL OF THE 5 ASSESSMENT. 6 AND NOW THEY ARE BASICALLY SAYING THAT'S A 7 REQUIREMENT GUYS, AND YOU HAVE TO GET IT ALL DONE BY FALL 8 OF 2012. SO WE'VE GOT 20 DEPARTMENTS THAT GOT LIKE A-PLUS 9 RATINGS FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND SHE CALLED OUT 10 SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THOSE IN TERMS OF A REPORT. BUT 11 THERE ARE STILL 70 PERCENT THAT HAVE TO COMPLETE BY FALL 12 OF 2012. AND THAT'S NOT JUST A MAYBE, THAT'S KIND OF 13 LIKE, YES, YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT. SO THAT'S THE SLO 14 SITUATION. 15 IN THE PRE-VISIT, SHE HAD TALKED TO ME ABOUT OUR 16 FINANCIAL SITUATION. SHE WAS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT 17 WHAT IS OUR LONG-TERM LIABILITIES IN TERMS OF HEALTH AND 18 RETIREMENT BENEFITS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT MORE THAN 19 $150 MILLION LIABILITY IN TERMS OF THE LONG TERM 20 SITUATION. AND THE FACT IS AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE AUDIT 21 REPORT, WE'VE ADDED 10 MILLION MORE TO THAT IN JUST ONE 22 YEAR. SO THAT'S CONCERNING FOR THEM. 23 THEY WERE ALSO -- AT THE BEGINNING, BEFORE WE 24 EVEN HAD THE ACCREDITATION VISIT, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS 25 WHAT ARE OUR RESERVES LIKE? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MARCH 22, 2012 221 1 BEING LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY. WE DID NOT HAVE THE AUDITED 2 FINANCIALS READY. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TWO YEARS OF 3 AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. AND WITHOUT AUDITED 4 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THEY JUST CAN'T SAY, OKAY, 5 EVERYTHING IS FINE. SO IT'S KIND OF GOOD NEWS THAT WE 6 FINALLY DO HAVE A SET OF AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR 7 LAST YEAR WHICH WOULD OF COURSE HELPED US QUITE A BIT HAD 8 WE HAD THOSE THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO AT LEAST TO HAVE 9 GIVEN THEM SO THEY COULD HAVE LOOKED AT THEM. 10 AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE 21 ELIGIBILITY 11 REQUIREMENTS. THREE OF THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE 12 WHAT THEY ARE QUESTIONING IN REGARDS TO US. TWO OF THEM 13 HAVE TO DO WITH FINANCES. AND ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO 14 EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP. AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A -- KIND 15 OF BIG DEAL FOR THEM. 16 BASICALLY WHAT THEIR ASSESSMENT IS IS THAT WE 17 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, 18 AND THAT WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE INFLUX BECAUSE THE EXITING 19 OF THE CHANCELLOR WHICH IS WHAT THEY REFERRED TO AS THE 20 CHANCELLOR'S LEAVING. YOU'VE GOT FOUR INTERIM VICE 21 CHANCELLORS. AND YOU HAVE A VERY SMALL ADMINISTRATIVE 22 STAFF AND SO THAT WAS CONCERNING, AND THAT'S PROBABLY 23 GOING TO BE WRAPPED IN WITH HOW EFFECTIVE ARE WE ALL 24 WORKING TOGETHER IN TERMS OF ALL CONSTITUENT GROUPS. 25 SO IT WASN'T JUST A MATTER OF ONE GROUP. I MEAN MARCH 22, 2012 222 1 I THINK THESE TEAMS ARE PRETTY EXPERIENCED SOME OF THEM 2 ARE. AND SO ON THE BASIC FACTS OF WHAT'S GOING ON, IT'S A 3 LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO THROW THEM OFF COURSE. HOPEFULLY, 4 THEY WEREN'T THROWN OFF COURSE, BUT THEY ARE BASICALLY 5 SEEING THINGS AS WE'VE SEEN THINGS HERE AT THE BOARD LEVEL 6 IN TERMS OF OUR FINANCES. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR 7 YEARS, A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW IN TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF 8 IT. 9 THEY ARE BASICALLY SEEING THINGS THE SAME WAY AS 10 THE OUTSIDE AUDITING PEOPLE ARE SEEING IT. AS YOU READ 11 THE AUDIT CAREFULLY OF WHAT WAS DONE BY THIS TEAM, THIS IS 12 NOT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S QUALIFIED/UNQUALIFIED OPINION AND SO 13 FORTH, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE ARE IN REALLY, REALLY SOLID 14 CONDITION. WE ARE RAZOR THIN IN TERMS OF WHERE WE SHOULD 15 BE AS FAR AS THIS AUDIT IS CONCERNED, ONE STEP AWAY FROM 16 SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT IF WE DON'T CHANGE AS FAR AS THE 17 AUDIT IS CONCERNED, SO WE KNEW THAT. 18 WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE STATE DELIBERATELY AND 19 WITH A LOT OF FORETHOUGHT DECIDED TO TAKE AWAY A LOT OF 20 COLLEGE FROM THE COMMUNITY FUNDING SYSTEM. AND SO THEY 21 HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN AWAY IN THIS YEAR'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT 22 AMOUNTS TO $17 MILLION REALLY. 13.4 MILLION AND THEN 23 ANOTHER 3-POINT SOMETHING MILLION. SO REALLY, 17 MILLION 24 IN THIS YEAR. AND THE THREAT, OF COURSE, IS IT STILL OUT 25 THERE TO TAKE MORE MONEY NEXT YEAR. MARCH 22, 2012 223 1 SO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE FACING THIS SITUATION. 2 WE ARE NOT DIFFERENT FROM OTHER COLLEGES. ALMOST 3 EVERYBODY ON THAT TEAM TOLD ME, WHEN THEY TALKED TO ME, WE 4 ARE FACING THE SAME SITUATION AND -- OR WORSE IN SOME 5 CASES THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH. 6 BUT I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO 7 LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF OURSELVES IN TERMS OF 8 OUR OWN ASSESSMENT, A FAIR ASSESSMENT IN THE AREAS OF 9 SLO'S, BUDGETED -- BUDGETING FINANCIAL RESERVES AND SO 10 FORTH. WE ARE PRETTY MUCH WHERE -- WE ALREADY KNEW THAT 11 WE'RE THERE. AND NOW WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT 12 BECAUSE YOU ARE HEARING IT FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT PLACES 13 NOW THAT IT'S OBVIOUS WE CAN'T AVOID IT. 14 NOW THEIR SOLUTION THAT THE ACCREDITING BODY IS 15 SAYING IS THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO DO SOME REALLY -- I 16 DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SAY IT. IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU CAN'T 17 KEEP NIBBLING AROUND THE PROBLEM. YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY 18 COME TO THE CORE OF THE PROBLEMS AND FOCUS ON THEM AND 19 DEAL WITH THEM NOW. 20 AND SO WE HAVE BEEN NIBBLING AROUND THE PROBLEM 21 AND GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT FOR FOUR YEARS, BUT WE REALLY 22 CAN'T JUST CONTINUE TO NIBBLE. WE HAVE TO DO THINGS THAT 23 ARE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE IN TERMS OF CHANGING WHAT'S GOING 24 ON. 25 AND THE REALITY IS YOU CAN'T CUT $25 MILLION OUT MARCH 22, 2012 224 1 OF PEOPLE'S WAGES NEXT YEAR. YOU CAN'T. IT IS NOT 2 POSSIBLE, SO SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE. 3 AND WHAT THEY ARE SUGGESTING, WHICH WE CAN'T 4 RESIST, AND I SAID IT BEFORE EARLIER, THEY ARE SAYING WE 5 ARE MANDATING YOU DOWNSIZE. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. 6 AND THEY ARE SAYING WE ARE BEING TOLD BY THE STATE. WE 7 ARE BEING TOLD BY EVERYBODY ELSE, IF YOU DON'T DOWNSIZE 8 YOU WON'T SURVIVE. 9 AND SO THE OTHER OPTION, OF COURSE, IS TO TRY TO 10 GET MORE FUNDING, EITHER LOCAL OR SOME PLACE ELSE. BUT IF 11 YOU LOOK LONG TERM AT THE BUDGET AND YOU LOOK AT OUR 12 FINANCIAL STATE, EVEN IF WE WERE TO GET 14 OR $15 MILLION 13 MORE PER YEAR FROM A SOURCE, WITHIN TWO YEARS THAT WOULD 14 EVAPORATE UNDER THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND STRUCTURE THAT WE 15 HAVE IN PLACE. IT WOULD BE GONE. 16 YOU WOULD HAVE NOT ENOUGH MONEY BECAUSE THE 17 STATE NEEDS TO -- IF THE STATE REALLY WANTS TO SUPPORT 18 COMMUNITY COLLEGES, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US AN INCREASE LIKE 19 CITY COLLEGE HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST 7 TO $8 MILLION EVERY 20 YEAR, YEAR ON YEAR MORE MONEY THAN WAS GIVEN THE PRIOR 21 YEAR. AND THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. 22 THEY ARE TAKING MORE AND MORE MONEY AWAY WHICH IS FORCING 23 US INTO A VERY, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE PLACE. 24 ON THE MORE POSITIVE SIDE, I READ THAT JACK 25 SCOTT HAS TURNED IN HIS RESIGNATION. BUT THE NEWS STORY MARCH 22, 2012 225 1 SAID THAT BERKELEY BIRGENEAU AT BERKELEY HAD DONE THE SAME 2 THING, AND SAN FRANCISCO STATE IS DOING IT. AND GARCIA IS 3 THERE HAS DECIDED TO LEAVE. THEY HAVE ME RESIGNING AND 4 RUNNING. ALL THE OTHER GUYS GET TO RETIRE, BUT MY NEWS 5 STORY SAID RESIGNING. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF RESENT THAT. 6 WHY CAN'T RETIRE LIKE THE REST OF THE PEOPLE? 7 MR. FITZGERALD: MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE YOU ALREADY 8 RETIRED ONCE. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. 10 MR. FITZGERALD: THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: MAYBE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING 12 ON, RIGHT? 13 I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE STUDENTS AND HAVING 14 SOME REALLY POSITIVE COMMUNICATION WITH SMAC ON THE 15 MATRICULATION PLACEMENT TEST AND SOME REALLY POSITIVE 16 CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. AND SOME, I 17 THINK SOME PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ACADEMIC 18 SENATE ABOUT THIS. WE ARE ALL HEADED I THINK IN A PRETTY 19 POSITIVE DIRECTION IN REGARDS TO PLACEMENT TESTING. IT 20 CENTERS A LOT AROUND THE CUT SCORES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 21 WHERE THE CUTOFFS ARE MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF 22 HOW WE PLACE PEOPLE. 23 BUT THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT HAS COME UP WITH I 24 THINK A PRETTY CREATIVE PLAN. WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH 25 ALL THE DETAILS AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS FOR US IN TERMS OF MARCH 22, 2012 226 1 ENGLISH. AND I THINK THE MATH IS ALSO LOOKING AT THIS. 2 DOES IT MEAN THE PLACEMENT TESTING IS GOING TO GO AWAY IN 3 THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE? 4 NO, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A MUCH MORE 5 POSITIVE WAY TO DEAL WITH IT SO MORE STUDENTS GET INTO THE 6 PIPELINE AND GET OUT IN A REASONABLY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME 7 WHICH IS I THINK IS WHAT WE ALL WANT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S 8 BEEN GOOD. 9 I'VE ALSO MET WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND FORMED 10 A WORK GROUP IN REGARDS TO GETTING TOGETHER THE DIVERSITY 11 BLUEPRINT WHICH HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE BOARD FOR THE 12 APRIL MEETING. SO WE WILL GET THAT TOGETHER WITH THE HELP 13 OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORKING ON IT AND TRY TO GET THAT IN 14 FRONT OF THE SHARED GOVERNANCE BODIES SO THEY CAN AT LEAST 15 TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT I AM SUGGESTING AS FAR AS THE 16 BLUEPRINT. IT WOULD BE MORE IN THE FORMAT OF LIKE THE 17 EQUITY REPORT AND HAVING INPUT FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE AS WE 18 BRING IT TO THE BOARD ON THE 26TH. I MEAN I THINK IT IS 19 THE 26TH OF APRIL. 20 WE ALSO MET WITH THE FOUNDATION. AND I MADE AN 21 APPEAL FOR THE FOUNDATION TO GIVE AT LEAST $500,000 THIS 22 YEAR AND MILLION DOLLARS NEXT YEAR. THEY SEEM A LITTLE 23 BIT LIKE MAYBE, RIGHT? 24 AND SOME PEOPLE SAID, WELL, YEAH, I WILL GIVE 25 YOU 20 OTHER 30 OR 40,000, BUT WE WILL SEE HOW THAT WORKS MARCH 22, 2012 227 1 IN TERMS OF THAT. THEY GAVE A VERY POSITIVE REPORT IN 2 TERMS OF THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE DISTRICT AND THE 3 FOUNDATION. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD. AND THEY 4 POINTED OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MORE THAN $5.2 5 MILLION WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE COLLEGE FOR ITS 6 MONEY THAT'S YOU KNOW -- WHEN THE CONVERSATION STARTED A 7 LONG TIME AGO, IT WAS WELL, MAYBE IT'S 2 OR 3 MILLION, BUT 8 THANKS TO I THINK A LARGE PART TO MADELINE AND TO JOHN. 9 MADELINE WITH HER PERFECT SET OF RECORDS, I DON'T KNOW 10 WHERE SHE IS KEEPING ALL THESE RECORDS, BUT SHE DUG 11 THROUGH EVERYTHING. 12 MS. MUELLER: IN THE BACK BEDROOM. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IN THE BACK BEDROOM. AND 14 SO THAT'S -- THAT $3 MILLION OR $2 MILLION EVOLVED INTO 15 5-POINT SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS IN TERMS OF THAT OF 16 WHICH WE ARE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO USE IN OUR BUDGET YEAR 17 THIS YEAR, MORE THAN A MILLION OF IT AND BECAUSE OF THE 18 WAY IT IS. AND SO THAT'S PRETTY POSITIVE IN TERMS OF THAT 19 RELATIONSHIP. 20 WE ALSO ARE SCHEDULING A MEETING IN THE MAYOR'S 21 OFFICE COMING EARLY IN APRIL, I THINK APRIL THE 4TH TO 22 TALK ABOUT THE PARCEL TAX AND TO HAVE A FULLER 23 CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE BASICALLY WE CERTAINLY 24 WANT TO BE ENDORSED BY EVERYONE. 25 I HAVE TALKED TO THE CHAMBER ABOUT IT. AND THEY MARCH 22, 2012 228 1 HAD AFFIRMED QUITE A WHILE AGO THAT THEY WERE POSITIVELY 2 INCLINED TOWARDS US AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED. AND KEEP 3 IN MIND THAT WE WANTED TO GO A YEAR OR SO AGO, AND WE SORT 4 OF DEFERRED BECAUSE OF OTHER THINGS. AND I DON'T THINK WE 5 SHOULD BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE THINKING OF 6 DEFERRING THIS TIME. I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GO OUT 7 FOR IT BECAUSE OF OBVIOUS REASONS. 8 SO AS FAR AS -- I DON'T HAVE ANY RESENTMENT FOR 9 THE -- IN REGARDS TO THE VISIT. I THINK THAT I'VE DECIDED 10 NOT DO AN ANGELA THOMAS, BUT I WANT TO LET GO OF STRONG 11 NEGATIVE FEELINGS ABOUT EVERYTHING. AND I DECIDED THAT 12 THAT'S A BETTER SURVIVAL STRATEGY, AND DON'T GET TOO 13 ANGRY. DON'T GET TOO MAD. DON'T GO TOO CRAZY. AND EVEN 14 IF YOU ARE DISAPPOINTED, TRY TO REACT TO IT. 15 BUT I HAVE TO SAY, AND I AM SAYING THIS WITH 16 LOVE AND AFFECTION AND ALL THAT STUFF, IS THAT WE JUST 17 CAN'T, AS A COLLEGE, GO THROUGH AN ACCREDITING PROCESS THE 18 WAY WE WENT THROUGH THIS ONE AGAIN. IT'S NOT AN 19 OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY TO SAY SOMETHING NEGATIVE ABOUT 20 THE COLLEGE. 21 THERE WAS -- I BELIEVE, IN MY OPINION AND A LOT 22 OF PEOPLE THINK I AM WRONG, BUT IN MY OPINION, THERE WAS A 23 LOT OF TIME FOR US TO DISCUSS THE REPORT BEFORE THE TEAM 24 GOT HERE. AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT ONE GROUP. THIS CAME 25 FROM EVERY SOURCE. WHEN I TALKED TO THE TEAM LEADER, MARCH 22, 2012 229 1 BASICALLY I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO DETAILS, BUT IT WAS 2 EVERY CONSTITUENT GROUP THAT TOOK IT'S CHANCE, THAT TOOK 3 AN OPPORTUNITY WITH POSSIBLY THE EXCEPTION OF THE 4 STUDENTS, WHO TOOK A CHANCE AT JUST LIKE WE ARE JUST GOING 5 TO REALLY SLAP OURSELVES. AND I THINK THAT'S NOT THE REAL 6 PURPOSE OF THE ACCREDITING PROCESS. 7 I THINK WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO OUR 8 SELF-EXAMINATION AND GET IT INTO THAT BOOK, A REPORT 9 BEFORE THE PEOPLE COME THERE. AND I THINK WE DID MAKE 10 SOME EFFORTS TO DO THAT. AND I THOUGHT WE HAD MADE 11 COMPROMISES AND HAD REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS, BUT EVERY 12 GROUP BASICALLY ARE SAYING SO. BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO 13 LISTEN TO PEOPLE, AND EVERYBODY IS SAYING THINGS THEN 14 THERE'S A CONSENSUS OUT THERE THAT THEY ARE REALLY 15 UNHAPPY, AND THAT THEY ARE REALLY TROUBLED. AND I GUESS 16 THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME ACROSS TO SOME EXTENT IN 17 THE ACCREDITATION REPORT. 18 AND CITY COLLEGE IS REALLY TROUBLED BY THE 19 STRATEGY THAT IT'S BEEN PURSUING FOR THESE LAST FEW YEARS 20 AS WELL AS THE OVERALL ECONOMIC SITUATION WE FIND 21 OURSELVES IN BECAUSE BASICALLY, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE 22 FLOORS HERE, THE FLOORS ARE NOT CLEAN. IF YOU GO TO THE 23 BATHROOM, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH CUSTODIAL STAFF TO DO. 24 PEOPLE ARE JUST STRETCHED TOO THIN. AND SO THEY ARE GOING 25 TO TELL US, AND WE HAVE TO COME TO THIS OURSELVES, WHAT MARCH 22, 2012 230 1 ARE WE PREPARED TO CLOSE DOWN? HOW FAR ARE WE ABLE TO 2 SHRINK BACK? ARE WE GOING TO REALLY KEEP HOLDING ON TO 3 STUFF THAT WE CAN ONLY PARTIALLY MAINTAIN AND DEAL WITH? 4 AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST DECISION FOR 5 US TO MAKE IN THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE BECAUSE JUST BELIEVE 6 ME, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE WORKFORCE TO GET 7 $25 MILLION OUT OF THE WORKFORCE TO PAY FOR THIS STUFF. 8 WE DO HAVE TO -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE SOME 9 BUILDINGS. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REDUCE SOME PROGRAMS. 10 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT BACK AND MAKE THE DECISIONS 11 THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MADE A COUPLE YEARS AGO ABOUT THE 12 CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS. 13 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE WITH THE 14 UNIONS ABOUT NON INSTRUCTIONAL TIME SO IT'S REALLY 15 POSSIBLE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF NON INSTRUCTIONAL TIME 16 THAT'S BEING EMPLOYED. WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THIS NON 17 INSTRUCTIONAL TIME WHILE WE ARE SHRINKING 20 PERCENT OR 15 18 PERCENT. AND I AM NOT JUST PICKING ON NON INSTRUCTIONAL. 19 I AM JUST PICKING ON ALL OF IT. 20 AND SO WORKING TOGETHER, I THINK WE ARE MAKING 21 GOOD PROGRESS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT WORK. WE'VE GOT GOOD 22 TEAMS WORKING IN THE BUDGET AND PLANNING FOR THE COLLEGE. 23 EVERYBODY IS REALLY SERIOUS AND FOCUSED ON IT, AND WE JUST 24 HAVE TO REALLY DO IT. I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD PLAN 25 FOR A BIG PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO FACE NEXT YEAR, BUT MARCH 22, 2012 231 1 THERE'S PROBABLY 10 OR $12 MILLION OF IT THAT NEEDS TO BE 2 ADDRESSED DIFFERENTLY FROM SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WE PUT 3 OUT SO FAR. 4 I THINK THE THING THAT THEY COMMENDED US ABOUT 5 IN THE ACCREDITING REPORT WAS THAT WE -- THEY LIKE OUR 6 PASSION. THEY LIKE OUR COMMITMENT TO THE STUDENTS. THEY 7 BELIEVE THAT WE ARE VERY, VERY MUCH A VERY, VERY CARING 8 INSTITUTION. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT TOO IN 9 TERMS OF THE REPORT. BUT THEY'RE JUST REAFFIRMING PRETTY 10 MUCH WHAT ALREADY KNOW, AND NOW WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT. 11 THAT'S I THINK WHAT ALL OF US WILL HAVE TO COME TO. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 ITEM 16 IS CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENTS. 14 ARE THERE ANY CLOSED SESSIONS ANNOUNCEMENTS? 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES MET IN 16 CLOSED SESSION AT FIVE O'CLOCK TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS POSTED 17 ON THE AGENDA. THERE ARE NO REPORTABLE ACTIONS FROM 18 TONIGHT'S MEETING. 19 HOWEVER, I NEGLECTED TO POINT OUT AT THE 20 FEBRUARY 23 MEETING THAT THERE WAS ONE REPORTABLE ACTION 21 WHICH WAS THAT THE BOARD VOTED BY A VOTE OF 5-2 TO EXTEND 22 THE CONTRACT FOR ESL INSTRUCTOR CARMEN NOLAN-MURRAY FOR 23 TWO YEARS. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 WE NOW HAVE REQUEST TO SPEAK. I HAVE ONE CARD. MARCH 22, 2012 232 1 CAROL FREGLY. 2 MS. FREGLY: GOOD EVENING. 3 I WISH THAT THE ACCREDITATION TEAM HAD COME TO 4 MY ENGLISH CLASS. THEY LOVE US. 5 THE STUDENTS WHO ACCOMPANIED ME TONIGHT 6 FOLLOWING OUR ENGLISH 1B CLASS HAVE COME THROUGH OUR 7 SYSTEM THROUGH OUR TESTING AND MATRICULATION. 8 MANY OF THEM HAVE TAKEN THE FULL SEQUENCE OF 9 CLASSES TO REACH THIS POINT. THEY ARE HARD WORKING, 10 DIRECTED, AND SMART. THEY ALSO LIKE OUR PROGRAM AND WHAT 11 WE OFFER THEM. THEY ARE TAXPAYERS, PARENTS, AND VOTERS. 12 THEY HAVE ALSO, AS EVENING STUDENTS, GOTTEN THE LEAST FOR 13 THEIR MONEY IN TERMS OF STUDENT SERVICES AT CCSF SIMPLY 14 BECAUSE THEY ARE EVENING STUDENTS. 15 IRONICALLY, MANY OF THEM HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY 16 ELECT TO PAY THE $6 OPTIONAL STUDENT SERVICE FEE BECAUSE 17 AS WORKING STUDENTS, THEY THINK THEY SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO 18 THE GENERAL GOOD. I'M NOT SO SURE. THESE STUDENTS WILL 19 TRANSFER VERY SOON TO SCHOOLS THAT COURT WORKING STUDENTS 20 AND OFFER WEEKEND AND EVENING PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY VALUE 21 THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCES AND THEIR MATURITY. 22 AND US, I HAVE BEEN COMING BEFORE THE BOARD 23 SINCE 1976 ASKING FOR SERVICES FOR EVENING STUDENTS. I AM 24 PLANNING TO RETIRE IN DECEMBER. CAN YOU DO SOMETHING? 25 RATHER THAN WASTE TIME AND CREATE DIVISION AND MARCH 22, 2012 233 1 ACRIMONY BY QUESTIONING INSTRUCTIONAL MATTERS LIKE TESTING 2 AND CURRICULUM FOR MATH AND ENGLISH WHO ACTUALLY RECEIVE 3 STELLAR REVIEWS FROM THE ACCREDITATION COMMITTEE. THE 4 BOARD COULD SERVE OUR STUDENTS BETTER BY DIRECTING ITS 5 ENERGY INTO FINDING FUNDING PUBLIC OR PRIVATE TO HELP OUR 6 EVENING STUDENTS AND ALL OUR STUDENTS GET ACCESS TO 7 EDUCATIONAL SERVICES. 8 I ONLY WISH -- YOU KNOW, I'VE READ ALL THIS 9 STUFF ABOUT THE MATH AND THE ENGLISH. AND I WAS ON THE 10 TESTING REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT PUT TOGETHER THE ENGLISH 11 DEPARTMENTS TEST. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1976. I WORKED 12 WITH THE ORIGINAL ESL TESTING. 13 OUR TESTING AND OUR PLACEMENT CAME OUT OF THE 14 NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS AS COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS. WE 15 ARE NOT TRYING TO SLOW STUDENTS DOWN. WE ARE TRYING TO 16 OFFER STUDENTS WHAT THEY NEED ON WHATEVER LEVEL THEY COME 17 TO US PREPARED TO DO WORK. 18 COUNSEL DICKEY: YOUR TIME'S UP. 19 MS. FREGLY: THANK YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. YOUR TIME IS UP. 21 MS. FREGLY: THAT WOULD BE WHAT I THINK WE 22 SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON. HOW CAN WE HELP OUR STUDENTS 23 SUCCEED? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 FURTHER COMMENT? MARCH 22, 2012 234 1 MR. SCOTT: RODGER SCOTT. 2 I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR SPEAKING AT THIS LATE HOUR 3 BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE MORE FOR THE OIL 4 EXTRACTION TAX INITIATIVE. IT STRIKES ME AS BEING A BIT 5 SAD MAYBE TO A GREAT DEGREE BY OUR OWN INABILITY TO 6 COMMUNICATE THE URGENCY FOR PEOPLE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING 7 THAT WILL HELP THIS INSTITUTION GREATLY. 8 THERE'S NOT A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT FOR IT AND 9 THAT IS TROUBLING. PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT WOULD HELP SO 10 MUCH. 11 ANYTIME THERE'S GREAT PROGRESS IN MOVEMENT OR 12 CAMPAIGNS, IT'S AN ISSUE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING A 13 LITTLE. AT THE MOMENT A FEW PEOPLE ARE DOING A GREAT DEAL 14 AND MANY OF US ARE NOT DOING MUCH. 15 IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU, AS LEADERS OF THIS 16 INSTITUTION, SHOULD BE DOING -- SHOULD BE TAKING A 17 POSITIVE ROLE IN RAISING MONEY FOR THE INSTITUTION. 18 I WOULD LIKE TO -- SOME OF YOU -- THE BOARD HAS 19 ENDORSED THIS INITIATIVE AND SOME OF YOU ARE WORKING HARD 20 IN THIS CAPACITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- I THINK 21 THERE'S NO GREATER INDEX OF YOUR COLLECTIVE LEADERSHIP 22 THAN HELPING TO GET THIS INSTITUTION OUT OF THE FINANCIAL 23 BIND THAT WE ARE IN. AND THAT WON'T -- THAT WILL HAPPEN 24 PARTLY WITH THE PARCEL TAX. IT WOULD HAPPEN TO A GREAT 25 DEGREE WITH THE OIL EXTRACTION TAX, SO WE NEED YOU TO MARCH 22, 2012 235 1 WORK. THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 4 THANK YOU. 5 ALL RIGHT. IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE ARE 6 ADJOURNED. 7 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:42 P.M.) 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 22, 2012 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. DATED: APRIL 20, 2012 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 STATE OF CALIFORNIA