SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, APRIL 26, 2012 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO GOUGH STREET CAMPUS 33 GOUGH STREET SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 DR. NATATLIE BERG 7 DR. ANITA GRIER 8 CHRIS JACKSON 9 MILTON MARKS III 10 STEVE NGO 11 JOHN RIZZO 12 13 14 15 DR. DON Q. GRIFFIN, CHANCELLOR 16 SCOTT DICKEY, LEGAL COUNSEL 17 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APRIL 26, 2012 3 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, APRIL 26, 2 2012, COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 7:05 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY 3 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, 33 GOUGH STREET, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD: 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APRIL 26, 2012 4 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S HAVE ORDER, PLEASE. 2 THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF 3 TRUSTEES OF CITY COLLEGE. 4 COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, THE ROLL CALL, 5 PLEASE. 6 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. 9 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE GRIER. 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: HERE. 11 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE BERG. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: HERE. 13 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HERE. 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE MARKS. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: HERE. 17 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE NGO. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE. 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: HERE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE WONG IS ABSENT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE 24 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 25 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) APRIL 26, 2012 5 1 MR. SCOTT: SOME DAY. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: RODGER SCOTT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC 4 COMMENT. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 5 IS THERE A COMMENT ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON 6 THE AGENDA? IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS A COMMENT ON 7 SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA? 8 OKAY, I DON'T SEE ANYONE, SO WE WILL MOVE ON. 9 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, WE 12 HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR THREE MEETINGS. 13 COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF 14 THE REGULAR MEETING FROM MARCH 22ND? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 16 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG; 18 SECONDED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 19 DISCUSSION? 20 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 21 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. APRIL 26, 2012 6 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 5 THE MARCH 22ND MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 6 (GAVEL SOUNDS.) 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD WE HAVE QUIET IN THE 8 ROOM, PLEASE. THANK YOU. 9 IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING 10 MINUTES OF APRIL 4TH? 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A SECOND? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 17 ANY DISCUSSION? 18 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) APRIL 26, 2012 7 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 3 IS THERE A MOTION FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING, 4 SPECIAL BOARD MEETING MINUTES OF APRIL 18TH? 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER; 8 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 9 ANY DISCUSSION? 10 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 11 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 12 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 OKAY, THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WELL. 21 LET US ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. 22 IS THERE A MOTION TO -- WELL, ACTUALLY I SHOULD 23 ASK IF THERE'S CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE A 25 NUMBER OF CHANGES TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT. APRIL 26, 2012 8 1 THERE ARE REVISED RESOLUTIONS. P1, WHICH IS 2 ENTITLED, "AMEND THE SFCCD POLICY MANUAL BY ADDING BOARD 3 POLICY BP 7001, ADOPTION OF ANNUAL BUDGET REQUIREMENTS." 4 THAT'S A SECOND READING. 5 THERE IS A RESOLUTION, P2, WHICH IS ENTITLED, 6 "NOTICE OF INTENTION TO AMEND THE SFCCD POLICY MANUAL BY 7 ADDING POLICY BP 3051, STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTERESTS." 8 THAT'S ON FIRST READING. 9 THERE'S A REVISED RESOLUTION, P3, "NOTICE OF 10 INTENTION TO AMEND THE SFCCD POLICY MANUAL BY ADDING 11 POLICY BP 2306, ANNUAL ETHICS AND SUNSHINE MEETING." 12 THAT'S ALSO ON FIRST READING. 13 THERE'S A REVISED RESOLUTION, P4, "NOTICE OF 14 INTENTION TO AMEND THE SFCCD POLICY MANUAL BY ADDING 15 POLICY BP 3151, DISCLOSURE OF CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION BY 16 AFFECTED ADMINISTRATOR." ALSO ON FIRST READING. 17 THERE WAS A REVISED RESOLUTION, P5, "NOTICE OF 18 INTENTION TO AMEND THE SFCCD POLICY MANUAL BY ADDING 19 POLICY BP 3152, RESOLUTION APPOINTING ADMINISTRATORS, 20 SINGLE ADMINISTRATOR RULE." THIS IS ALSO ON FIRST 21 READING. 22 THERE WAS A REVISED RESOLUTION, S7, "RESOLUTION 23 IN SUPPORT OF SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND LOCAL INVESTMENT OF 24 SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT STUDENT FEES, 25 COMMUNITY TAX DOLLARS AND OTHER FINANCIAL RESOURCES." APRIL 26, 2012 9 1 AND THERE WAS A REVISED RESOLUTION, S10, 2 "RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT REVISED MATRICULATION, ASSESSMENT 3 AND PLACEMENT POLICY." 4 THERE ARE TWO ADDED RESOLUTIONS. RESOLUTION F4, 5 WHICH IS ENTITLED, "IN THE EVENT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 6 APPOINTS AN INTERIM CHANCELLOR IN CLOSED SESSION, 7 AUTHORIZE THE VICE CHANCELLOR OF FINANCE AND 8 ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT 9 WITH THE APPOINTEE IN AN AMOUNT AND WITH THE TERMS 10 DISCUSSED IN OPEN SESSION." 11 F4 WAS ADDED AFTER THE AGENDA WAS SENT OUT TO 12 THE BOARD LAST WEEK, AND IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM 13 TONIGHT'S AGENDA. WE WILL BE HOLDING A SPECIAL OPEN 14 SESSION ON SUNDAY, THE 29TH, AT 5:00 P.M. TO DISCUSS THAT 15 ITEM AFTER THE BOARD HAS A SECOND CLOSED SESSION ON THE 16 APPOINTMENT OF AN INTERIM CHANCELLOR. 17 THE OTHER ADDED RESOLUTION IS F5, WHICH WAS 18 ENTITLED "AUTHORIZE THE CHANCELLOR OR THE VICE CHANCELLOR 19 OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT 20 WITH GEORGE RUSH TO CONTINUE AS HEAD FOOTBALL COACH 21 FOLLOWING HIS SERVICE RETIREMENT FROM THE DISTRICT. THE 22 CONTRACT SHALL BE FOR FIVE YEARS UNLESS TERMINATED BY 23 EITHER PARTY UPON 60 DAYS NOTICE. COMPENSATION SHALL BE 24 SET ANNUALLY, AND SHALL BE EQUAL TO CALSTRS 25 POST-RETIREMENT EARNINGS LIMITS, WHICH FOR FISCAL YEAR APRIL 26, 2012 10 1 2012-2013 SHALL BE $31,020." 2 ADDED RESOLUTION F5, LIKE F4, WAS ADDED AFTER 3 THE BOARD RECEIVED ITS COPY OF THE AGENDA LAST WEEK. F5 4 HAS ALSO BEEN WITHDRAWN AND WILL BE PRESENTED IN A 5 DIFFERENT FORM AT THE NEXT REGULAR BOARD MEETING. THERE 6 ARE NO OTHER CHANGES. 7 ALTHOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WHEN WE GO 8 THROUGH THE AGENDA, WE NEED TO ADDRESS ITEM S8 BEFORE WE 9 ADDRESS ITEM F3 BECAUSE THEY ARE RELATED. AND S8 IS A 10 PRECONDITION FOR F3. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TO -- I'M SORRY, COULD YOU 12 REPEAT THAT. A PRECONDITION TO WHICH ONE? 13 COUNSEL DICKEY: TO F3. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F3. 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: THEY ARE RELATED. F3 INVOLVES 16 PLACEMENT INTO A CLASSIFICATION THAT ISN'T CREATED UNTIL 17 WE GET TO S8, SO WE SHOULD DO S8 FIRST. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: THOSE ARE -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THAT IT? 21 COUNSEL DICKEY: THAT'S IT. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE DONE. 23 IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA 24 AS REVISED? 25 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. APRIL 26, 2012 11 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 3 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 15 THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA IS ADOPTED. 16 AT THIS POINT, TRUSTEES, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, 17 WE ARE GOING TO TAKE -- I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE RESOLUTION F1 18 OUT OF ORDER. 19 COUNSEL, WOULD YOU MIND READING -- 20 COUNSEL DICKEY: F1 IS ENTITLED, "COMMENDING 21 CHANCELLOR DON Q. GRIFFIN FOR HIS DECADES OF DEDICATED 22 SERVICE TO CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO; RATIFYING THE 23 THIRD AMENDMENT TO DR. GRIFFIN'S EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH 24 CITY COLLEGE; ACCEPTING THAT DR. GRIFFIN IS UNABLE TO 25 CONTINUE TO PERFORM HIS ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS AS CHANCELLOR; APRIL 26, 2012 12 1 ASSIGNING DR. GRIFFIN TO THE POSITION OF ADMINISTRATOR ON 2 SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT; AND DECLARING THE POSITION OF 3 CHANCELLOR TO BE VACANT FOR PURPOSES OF BOARD POLICY 1.11, 4 EFFECTIVE APRIL 30TH, 2012." 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THANK YOU. 6 IS THERE A MOTION FOR F1? 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: MOVE F1. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER; 10 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 11 OKAY, SO -- WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN? 12 I WILL. I WILL BEGIN THEN. 13 SO WE HAVE THIS RESOLUTION WHICH DOES SOME 14 TECHNICAL THINGS AND WHATNOT AND TRIES IN A VERY MODERATE 15 WAY TO COMMEND DR. GRIFFIN FOR THE WORK HE HAS DONE. 16 THIS IS DR. GRIFFIN'S LAST MEETING, HIS LAST 17 BOARD MEETING AT CITY COLLEGE AFTER SOME 40 YEARS OF 18 PUBLIC SERVICE TO US. 19 (PAUSE IN PROCEEDINGS FOR APPLAUSE.) 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN'S CAREER AT 21 CITY COLLEGE HAS BEEN LONG AND ILLUSTRIOUS. HE HAS HELD 22 JUST ABOUT EVERY POSITION I THINK THAT SOMEONE COULD AT 23 CITY COLLEGE ON THE FACULTY SIDE, THROUGH THE 24 ADMINISTRATION. 25 AND AS A CHANCELLOR, WHICH IS WHERE I REALLY GOT APRIL 26, 2012 13 1 TO KNOW CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, HE HAS JUST BEEN AN AMAZING 2 FORCE FOR THIS COLLEGE AND THIS DISTRICT. HE IS THE 3 CHANCELLOR WHO GOT THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS BUILT AFTER ALL 4 THESE DECADES OF FUMBLES AND STUMBLES AND BLOCKS AND 5 FIGHTS. CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN IS THE ONE THAT GOT IT DONE. 6 I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS GETTING IN 7 FOR, BUT -- YOU SHOULD TURN AROUND SO THE CAMERA COULD 8 SEE. 9 (CAKE INTERRUPTION.) 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS WAS BAKED BY THE WAY BY 11 CITY COLLEGE STUDENTS. 12 SO ANYWAY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF DON KNEW WHAT HE 13 WAS REALLY GETTING INTO WHEN HE DECIDED HE WANTED TO BE 14 CHANCELLOR. I DON'T THINK AT THAT TIME THE ECONOMIC 15 OUTLOOK WAS -- WE REALLY KNEW, BUT HE HAS LED THE HELM -- 16 BEEN AT THE HELM OF THE WORST ECONOMIC TIMES THAT PUBLIC 17 EDUCATION IN CALIFORNIA HAS EVER EXPERIENCED. AND NOT 18 JUST ONE YEAR, BUT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND HE'S 19 GUIDED US THROUGH IT. 20 HE'S -- THE DISTRICT IS STILL WHOLE. WE HAVE 21 NOT HAD TO HAVE MASSIVE LAYOFFS LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER 22 DISTRICTS HAVE. WE HAVE OUR PROGRAMS MOSTLY IN TACT. WE 23 HAVE FEWER RESOURCES THAN BEFORE, BUT THEY ARE MOSTLY 24 INTACT. AND WE ARE DOING WHAT CITY COLLEGE HAS BEEN DOING 25 FOR 76 YEARS NOW. AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP APRIL 26, 2012 14 1 THAT WE'VE HAD AT THE HELM OF THIS DISTRICT. 2 SO I REALLY WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK, CHANCELLOR 3 GRIFFIN, FOR 40 YEARS OF SERVICE AND DEFINITELY THE LAST 4 FOUR YEARS. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 7 TRUSTEES. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: I'VE WORKED WITH DON FOR A LONG, 9 LONG TIME. I WAS A FACULTY MEMBER AND A DEAN AT CITY 10 COLLEGE. I WORKED WITH DON -- 11 MS. THOMAS: SPEAK UP, BABY. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: OH, THE MICROPHONE IS NOT ON. IS 13 IT ON? IT'S NOT ON. 14 WELL, I WORKED WITH DON FOR A VERY, VERY LONG 15 TIME OVER THE YEARS. I HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH CITY 16 COLLEGE IN MANY, MANY DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND WORKED WITH 17 HIM THROUGH HIS MANY, MANY POSITIONS. AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD 18 JUST ENORMOUS RESPECT FOR DON. AND HE HAS PROVEN TO BE AN 19 AMAZING CHANCELLOR THROUGH THESE TIMES. 20 HE HAS TAKEN US -- I FEEL LIKE WE WERE ON A 21 ROUGH OCEAN WITH LOTS OF ROCKS, AND HE MANAGED TO NAVIGATE 22 THROUGH THOSE ROCKS SMOOTHLY, WITH GRACE, WITH A LOT OF 23 DELICACY, AND A LOT OF COMMITMENT, AND A LOT OF LOVE. HE 24 HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL CHANCELLOR FOR ALL THESE 25 MANY YEARS. AND EVERY POSITION HE'S EVER HELD HE HAS APRIL 26, 2012 15 1 REALLY BEEN A WONDERFUL, SUCCESSFUL PERSON. 2 SO THE CAKE -- I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT 3 THIS. THIS CAKE THAT EVERYONE WILL SHARE AT SOME POINT 4 WHEN WE TAKE A BREAK. I HAVE ANOTHER ONE JUST LIKE IT. 5 AND I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THESE TWO CAKES WERE MADE 6 BY THE CULINARY ARTS DEPARTMENT OF CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 7 FRANCISCO. AND TO SEE THE MOST AMAZING STUFF THAT THEY 8 DO. AND IT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE I'VE TASTED THEIR CAKES, 9 AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE IT. 10 BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS 11 ANOTHER WONDERFUL MILESTONE IN CITY COLLEGE'S LIFE. AND 12 WE ARE GOING TO BE SAD TO MISS DON. I AM DEFINITELY GOING 13 TO MISS HIM, BUT I DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO LET HIM GO 14 VERY SOON. I MEAN AS SOON AS HE IS ABLE -- HIS PHONES ARE 15 GOING TO START RINGING. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT WE ARE GOING 16 TO SAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW? AND THERE HE WILL 17 BE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY HE IS OUTSTANDING. 18 AND, DON, WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST OF LUCK. AND 19 WITH ALL OF OUR LOVE, YOU LEAVE WITH ALL OF OUR LOVE THAT 20 YOU ARE WATCHING YOUR BACK. SO YOU ARE GOING TO BE FINE. 21 SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 22 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THANK YOU, TRUSTEE BERG, 25 FOR ARRANGING THE CAKE. IT WAS TRUSTEE BERG'S DOING. APRIL 26, 2012 16 1 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 2 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. THIS IS VERY 3 DIFFICULT TO SAY GOODBYE TO DON, BUT WHEN DON WAS SELECTED 4 TO BE OUR CHANCELLOR, I WAS THE PERSON LEADING THE SEARCH. 5 AND EVEN BEFORE IT WAS ANNOUNCED, I WENT TO DON, AND I 6 ASKED IF HE WOULD JUST STEP IN AND HELP US OUT FOR A BIT. 7 AND DON TOLD ME HE HAD A FIVE-YEAR PLAN. AND AT THE END 8 OF THE FIVE YEARS, HE WAS GOING TO RETIRE, AND SO HE DID. 9 AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, HE CALLED 10 ME AND HE HAD CHANGED HIS MIND. GOOD FOR US. SO HE CAME 11 BACK, AND HE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THE -- THE 12 APPLICATION PROCESS, AND HE WAS SELECTED UNANIMOUSLY TO BE 13 OUR CHANCELLOR. 14 AND SINCE THAT TIME, IT'S JUST BEEN A WONDERFUL 15 EXPERIENCE FOR ME AS A BOARD MEMBER. WHAT HE BRINGS TO 16 THIS POSITION IS AVAILABILITY, A VISIONARY, HARD WORKING, 17 AND JUST A CLASS ACT. HE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL CHANCELLOR. 18 AND I ONLY KNEW HIM AS A RESULT OF HIM BEING A BOARD 19 MEMBER -- I MEAN A CHANCELLOR. BUT WHAT I FOUND OUT FROM 20 MANY STUDENTS THAT I WOULD MEET ALL OVER THE CITY IS WHAT 21 A GREAT TEACHER HE WAS. AND THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT HIS 22 CLASSES AND JUST HOW WONDERFUL HE WAS. 23 IT'S TIME TO SAY GOODBYE TO HIM, AND WE 24 CERTAINLY DO WISH HIM WELL. AND I HATE TO SEE HIM LEAVE, 25 BUT HE DESERVES TO LEAVE AND GET SOME REST, AND GET ALL APRIL 26, 2012 17 1 THE NEEDED THINGS THAT HE HAS BEFORE HIM. I WOULD LIKE TO 2 SAY, GOODBYE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR ALL HIS 3 HARD WORK. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEES? 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND YOU KNOW, CHANCELLOR, I 8 JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE. I 9 CAME ON IN 2008, AND YOU ARE THE ONLY CHANCELLOR THAT I'VE 10 EVER KNOWN. AND I AM VERY HONORED TO HAVE STARTED MY 11 SERVICE HERE AT CITY COLLEGE WITH YOU AS A CHANCELLOR. 12 YOU'VE DONE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE AGAINST THE GRAIN WITHIN 13 THIS COLLEGE, BUT I THINK WE CAN ALL KIND OF SEE THE 14 FOLKS, AND DIVERSITY, YOUNG PEOPLE, OLDER PEOPLE, PEOPLE 15 OF COLOR, WOMEN, YOU CAN SEE EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THIS ROOM 16 RIGHT NOW. 17 EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT NOT AGREE ON WHY WE ARE IN 18 THIS ROOM, YOU KNOW, THE CHANCELLOR I THINK IS THE 19 GREATEST MARK OF WHAT THE CHANCELLOR HAS DONE. HE HAS 20 REALLY BROUGHT CITY COLLEGE JUST A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE 21 COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, HAS REALLY PRIORITIZED THE 22 COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 23 I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS 24 THERE WAS AN EVENT AT THE SUNNYDALE PUBLIC HOUSING 25 PROJECTS. AND, YOU KNOW, I CAME UP TO THE CHANCELLOR. I APRIL 26, 2012 18 1 WAS SURE HE WAS GOING TO SAY, "NO" AND I SAID, HEY, DO YOU 2 MIND GIVING A SPEECH OVER THERE, YOU KNOW. 3 SHARON HEWITT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS KNOW SHARON. YOU 4 KNOW, I HAD TO GO. BUT YOU KNOW I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, 5 CHANCELLOR, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY WANT YOU TO GIVE A 6 SPEECH OUT THERE AND THE CHANCELLOR CAME OUT THERE. AND 7 HE GAVE A SPEECH TO OVER 100, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS IN 8 SUNNYDALE AND WAS TELLING THEM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO 9 COME TO CITY COLLEGE, THERE IS A PLACE FOR YOU. AND THAT 10 WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THAT ANYBODY OF THE 11 CHANCELLOR'S STATURE HAS EVER COME AND SAID THAT THERE IS 12 A PLACE FOR YOU SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN JUST BEING AT 13 SUNNYDALE PUBLIC HOUSING. 14 AND, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT HE WORKS IN TERMS OF 15 JUST BEING PATIENT. AND HE REALLY DOES PROVE THAT JUST A 16 LITTLE BIT OF PATIENCE CAN TAKE PEOPLE A LONG WAYS. 17 INSTEAD OF BEING SO QUICK TO SAY I DISAGREE WITH YOU, HE 18 WILL SIT THERE AND USE HIS PSYCHOLOGY AND ACTUALLY, YOU 19 KNOW, TALK WITH YOU AND GO OVER THINGS. AND AS USUAL, HE 20 WILL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE YOUR VISION, MAKE YOUR IDEA 21 ACTUALLY HAPPEN. AND I -- YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT THAT IS A 22 CHANGE WITHIN THIS INSTITUTION. 23 YOU KNOW HE BROUGHT A NEW ENERGY TO THIS 24 INSTITUTION. HE BROUGHT A NEW SENSITIVITY TO THIS 25 INSTITUTION, GEOGRAPHIC SENSITIVITY, CULTURAL SENSITIVITY APRIL 26, 2012 19 1 THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE THAT. YOU KNOW, HE 2 GAVE FOLKS INSIDE THIS INSTITUTION THAT FELT LIKE THERE 3 WAS NO REASON TO COME TO BOARD MEETINGS; THERE'S NO REASON 4 TO REALLY PARTICIPATE. HE GAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY AND 5 GAVE THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING INSIDE THIS 6 INSTITUTION FOR SO LONG, HE GAVE THEM A VOICE. AND THAT'S 7 WHAT I AM REALLY PROUD OF HAVING A CHANCELLOR LIKE THIS. 8 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM VERY SAD TO SEE YOU GO. 9 YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY HOPE THAT YOU COME BY, YOU KNOW, 10 AND VISIT IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, 11 CHANCELLOR, YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN 12 EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, TO ME, MYSELF OF HOW TO ACT IN PUBLIC. 13 YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, TO ME AS 14 SOMEONE HOW TO BE PATIENT. AND YOU HAVE BEEN AN EXAMPLE 15 TO ME AS IS SOMEONE WHO IS ALWAYS QUICK, YOU KNOW, WHO 16 ALWAYS SAYS A SLOW "YES" INSTEAD OF QUICK "NO." AND I 17 WILL ALWAYS THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 18 YOUR SERVICE, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FURTHER DISCUSSION, TRUSTEES? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, WELL, I AM NOT SAD TO SEE 21 HIM GO BECAUSE I THINK HE NEEDS SOME REST. HE HAS BEEN 22 WORKING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND IT MAY NOT BE OBVIOUS 23 THAT WE HAVE A LOT IN COMMON, BE IT TYPICALLY, ESPECIALLY, 24 BUT THE CHANCELLOR AND I BOTH GREW UP AS POOR KIDS IN THE 25 SOUTH. AND THEY SAY THAT PAST IS PROLOGUE. AND I APRIL 26, 2012 20 1 FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE THAT. IT IS PROLOGUE. 2 I AM NOT SURPRISED BY ALL THE WORK THAT WE HAVE 3 DONE IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HERE AT ALL. I 4 AM NOT SURPRISED BY THE ADVANCES WE MADE ON EQUITY ISSUES, 5 ON BUDGET, ON LONG STANDING FISCAL MATTERS THAT JUST HAD 6 TO HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. I AM NOT SURPRISED BY THOSE 7 THINGS. 8 I TOLD HIM WHEN WE HAD A CHANCE TO GET TOGETHER 9 THAT IT'S A TOUGH THING TO BE A YOUNG ELECTED OFFICIAL IN 10 SAN FRANCISCO. I SAID IT IS EVEN TOUGHER TO BE A YOUNG 11 ELECTED OFFICIAL OF AN ACADEMIC INSTITUTION IN SAN 12 FRANCISCO. AND IT'S WORSE TO PRESIDE AND VOTE ON BUDGETS 13 THAT ESSENTIALLY WERE CUT AND CUT AND CUT EVERY SINGLE 14 YEAR. I CANNOT IMAGINE LIFE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN SAN 15 FRANCISCO OR ANYWHERE WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD MONEY TO GIVE 16 AWAY. THAT'S LIKE A FANTASY. 17 BUT TALK ABOUT CUTTING YOUR TEETH AS A YOUNG 18 LEADER CHARGED TO REPRESENT AN ENTIRE CITY OF PEOPLE. AND 19 I TOLD HIM THAT HE IS -- HAS BEEN -- WILL BE MY ONLY 20 CHANCELLOR AND THAT WE KIND OF JOKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 21 HOW PEOPLE HAD FORGOTTEN THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY 22 DAMN GOOD TEACHER AT THIS COLLEGE BEFORE HE BECAME AN 23 ADMINISTRATOR. 24 AND I SAID, DON, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM GRATEFUL 25 FOR YOU BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE AN ADMINISTRATOR AND APRIL 26, 2012 21 1 YOU ARE OUR CHANCELLOR, YOU NEVER STOPPED TEACHING ME. 2 AND, OF COURSE, I TAKE ALL THE PRO BONO 3 PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP I CAN GET. SO INSTEAD OF A COUCH, IT'S 4 COFFEE. AND I TELL HIM ALL THE TIME, LOOK, I AM NOT 5 ALWAYS HAPPY ABOUT HOW I CONDUCT MYSELF AS A YOUNG 6 OFFICIAL AT THIS COLLEGE, BUT I AM LEARNING. AND WE ARE 7 ALL GROWING, AND WE ALL STRIVE TO BE BETTER PEOPLE. 8 BUT I SAID FOR HIM, STILL WATER RUNS DEEP. I 9 SAID, I AM IN AWE EVERY SINGLE MEETING OF THE DEPTH AND 10 PROFUNDITY OF HIS PATIENCE AS A CHANCELLOR OF HIS 11 INSTITUTION. AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST THE PEOPLE 12 THAT HE WORKS WITH, BUT THE BOARD ITSELF. IT IS 13 INCREDIBLY FRACTIOUS. AND IT'S FRACTIOUS IN A VERY 14 MONUMENTAL -- AT A VERY MONUMENTAL TIME. 15 AND I SAID, YOU'VE TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT HOW NOT 16 JUST TO BE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, BUT HOW TO BE PERSON, A 17 BETTER PERSON, TO WORK ON HOW I CONDUCT MYSELF IN PUBLIC. 18 AND YOU MAY MISS TEACHING, BUT YOU NEVER STOPPED TEACHING. 19 AND YOU'VE TAUGHT ME SO MUCH ABOUT HOW TO BE A TRUE LEADER 20 OF PEOPLE, AND OF STUDENTS, EMPLOYEES. AND I TOLD HIM I 21 WILL FOREVER BE INDEBTED TO HIM FOR THAT. 22 YOU KNOW, I SAY PAST IS PROLOGUE BECAUSE THE 23 CHANCELLOR STARTED OFF -- THINK ABOUT THIS. HE STARTED 24 OFF COUNSELING VETERANS COMING BACK FROM WAR OR SERVICE 25 WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ENTER THE APRIL 26, 2012 22 1 SERVICE PROBABLY VULNERABLE ANYWAY, NO OTHER OPTIONS MANY 2 TIMES. AND THEY GO AND SERVE OUR COUNTRY WITH DUTY AND 3 HONOR. AND THEY COME BACK TO A SOCIETY THAT HONESTLY 4 COULD DO BETTER TO SERVE THEM, ESPECIALLY ON MENTAL HEALTH 5 ISSUES. AND THAT'S WHERE HE CUT HIS TEETH AS A 6 PROFESSIONAL, AS A PSYCHOLOGIST. AND HE WAS RECOGNIZED 7 FAIRLY SO FOR THAT. AND HE CONTINUED WORKING AS A TEACHER 8 AT THE COLLEGE. 9 I STILL THINK IT IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL JOB OF 10 ANY SOCIETY TO BE A TEACHER. AND HE DID IT FOR OVER TWO 11 DECADES BEFORE HE BECAME AN ADMINISTRATOR. HE DID IT 12 REALLY WELL, AS I JUST MENTIONED. 13 AND NOT ONLY DID HE SERVE THE COLLEGE AS THE 14 VICE CHANCELLOR OF ACADEMIC AFFAIRS, HE ALSO DID THE OTHER 15 SIDE AND SERVED AT THE COLLEGE AND STUDENTS AS THE VICE 16 CHANCELLOR OF STUDENT DEVELOPMENT. NOT ONLY THAT, HE DID 17 IT AT THE SAME TIME. THINK ABOUT THAT. HE DID THAT JOB 18 AT THE SAME TIME. TWO JOBS, HIGH LEVEL EXECUTIVE JOBS AT 19 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO AT THE SAME TIME, AND HE 20 ACTUALLY DID IT REALLY WELL. 21 SO HE GETS TO BE CHANCELLOR AND, YOU KNOW, 22 LINCOLN HAS THAT SAYING THAT NEARLY ALL MEN CAN STAND 23 ADVERSITY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO TEST A MAN'S CHARACTER, GIVE 24 HIM POWER. THE CHANCELLOR HAD POWER. AND HE WAS 25 COURAGEOUS AND BOLD WITH IT, BUT HE WAS ALSO JUDICIOUS AND APRIL 26, 2012 23 1 FAIR. AND THAT TOO IS WHAT I LEARNED FROM HIM, HOW TO USE 2 POWER IN A JUST AND JUDICIOUS AND A FAIR WAY. AND BECAUSE 3 OF THAT, WE'VE HAD SUBSTANTIAL POSITIVE CHANGES ON BEHALF 4 OF STUDENTS AT THIS COLLEGE, SUBSTANTIAL, POSITIVE CHANGES 5 ON BEHALF OF THE STUDENTS CITY COLLEGE, WHETHER IT'S 6 SEQUENCING, WHETHER IT'S PRIORITY REGISTRATION, AND 7 PLACEMENT TESTING, WE'VE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS BECAUSE 8 OF HIS LEADERSHIP. AND THAT'S A LEGACY THAT IS WORTH 9 HONORING. 10 AND IN FACT, AS I TOLD HIM, AND APPARENTLY WHAT 11 THE REPORTER HAD WRITTEN DOWN, I'VE ALWAYS HATED THE TERM 12 MULTIUSE BUILDING. MULTIUSE BUILDING, THAT'S AN AWFUL 13 NAME. AND I THINK IT'S FITTING GIVEN WHAT WE DO THERE 14 THAT WE RENAME IT GRIFFIN HALL. 15 (PAUSE IN PROCEEDINGS FOR APPLAUSE.) 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I BELIEVE THAT MEANS I HAVE SOME 17 CO-SPONSORS FOR THAT RESOLUTION. SO I PLAN TO INTRODUCE 18 IT AND HOPE TO HAVE IT CONSIDERED NEXT MONTH. 19 WITH THAT, CHANCELLOR, I AM ETERNALLY INDEBTED 20 TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TEACHING ME TO BE A BETTER 21 LEADER AND A BETTER PERSON. AND I AM PROUD OF THE WORK 22 WE'VE DONE TOGETHER. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN 23 MORE RELAXING SETTINGS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS. APRIL 26, 2012 24 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: I LOOK AROUND THE ROOM AND I SEE 2 A LARGER GROUP OF PEOPLE THAN I'VE EVER SEEN IN THIS ROOM 3 AND THAT'S YOUR LEGACY, DON. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE -- 4 YOU'VE TAKEN ON THESE CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECTS, SUCH AS A 5 BLUEPRINT FOR DIVERSITY AND FACULTY HIRING, WHICH A NUMBER 6 OF YOU ARE HERE TO TESTIFY AGAINST OR IN FAVOR OF THAT. 7 AND REFORM FOR PLACEMENT TESTING, WHICH AGAIN, WE WILL BE 8 HEARING FROM THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT AND THOSE WHO 9 ARE OPPOSED TO THAT LATER TONIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, I SAID 10 THAT THIS IS THE LARGEST AUDIENCE THAT I'VE EVER SEEN, AND 11 THAT'S TESTIMONY TO YOU. 12 WE SHARE A COMMON DATE FOR OUR UPCOMING 13 SURGERIES, WHICH I FOUND OUT TODAY. MAY 2ND, IS MY DATE 14 OF SURGERY THAT I AM GOING TO BE UNDER THE KNIFE, AND IT'S 15 FOR YOU TOO. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: AND WE HAVE THE SAME CONDITION. 18 I WILL BE VISITING YOU, AND YOU WILL BE VISITING ME. SO, 19 YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE KEEPING EACH OTHER COMPANY. THANK 20 YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IF 23 THERE ARE PEOPLE OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANT TO 24 SPEAK. 25 PLEASE -- APRIL 26, 2012 25 1 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: NO, TRUSTEE -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I'M SORRY, TRUSTEE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO I WILL TRY NOT TO BE 5 LONG BECAUSE EVERYBODY PROBABLY WANTS TO SING PRAISES FOR 6 THE CHANCELLOR. 7 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I NOTE AS A REENTRY 8 STUDENT, NOT MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED, I ACTUALLY KNOW 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN AS MY PREVIOUS LIFE AS A STUDENT. 10 AND I WAS BASICALLY TRYING TO OUTSMART 11 CHANCELLOR IN A NEGOTIATION ABOUT INTERNATIONAL STUDENT 12 TUITION. AND I ONLY SUCCEEDED IN A DRAW. BUT MOSTLY, 13 IT'S THE CHANCELLOR LETTING ME HAVE A DRAW. HE WON MOST 14 OF THE BATTLE. 15 I ADMIRE HIM. I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM HIM 16 EVEN -- I LEARNED A LOT FROM HIM BEFORE. AND EVEN MORE SO 17 AS STUDENT TRUSTEE WHEN I HAVE CLOSER INTERACTION WITH 18 HIM. IT'S SAD TO SEE HIM GO. HE HAS PROVIDED GENEROUS, 19 SINCERE, AND STRONG LEADERSHIP FOR THIS COLLEGE. AND -- I 20 CONSIDER HIM AS SOMEONE I LOOK UP TO. 21 I THINK HE IS GOING TO GET A LOT OF REST, AND 22 I'M JEALOUS OF THAT, BUT HE DESERVES IT. SO RECOVER 23 QUICKLY, STAY HEALTHY, AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING 24 YOU FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. APRIL 26, 2012 26 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE ONE CARD FROM KAREN 2 SAGINOR. 3 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, PRESIDENT OF THE 4 ACADEMIC SENATE. 5 SO ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT'S SORT OF 6 TOPMOST FOR ME AND REALLY FOR MOST PEOPLE AT CITY COLLEGE 7 FOR CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN IS THE QUALITY OF LOVE. HE LOVES 8 THE COLLEGE. HE LOVES THE STUDENTS. HE LOVES ALL OF US 9 WHO WORK HERE. WE LOVE HIM. WE TRY TO LOVE EACH OTHER. 10 THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF ROMANTIC LOVE. THIS IS THE KIND 11 OF CLOSE ENGAGEMENT LOVE WHERE YOU CAN'T BEAR TO SEE 12 SOMETHING NOT DONE THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY IN SOME CASES, 13 AND YOU KEEP WORKING TOGETHER. 14 AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT -- ONE OF THE -- 15 OCCASIONS ON WHICH THAT WAS REALLY FELT BY ME AND BY MANY 16 FACULTY AND OTHER EMPLOYEES WAS AT THE FLEX DAY 17 CHANCELLOR'S ADDRESS WHEN HE CAME TO THE PODIUM AS INTERIM 18 CHANCELLOR AND ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS SEEKING, NOT THAT HE 19 HAD BEEN GIVEN IT, BUT THAT HE WAS SEEKING THE PERMANENT 20 POSITION. AND THE FOLKS IN THE DIEGO RIVERA THEATER 21 PRETTY MUCH SPRANG TO THEIR FEET INSTANTLY WITH JOY THAT 22 HE WAS SEEKING TO LEAD US, AND THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE HIM 23 AS OUR CHANCELLOR, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ESPANOLA JACKSON. 25 MS. JACKSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ESPANOLA APRIL 26, 2012 27 1 JACKSON, BAYVIEW HUNTERS POINT. 2 I JUST WANT TO SAY, DR. GRIFFIN, I KNOW I WAS A 3 PAIN. AND I HAVE ONLY KNOWN YOU A SHORT WHILE, BUT I JUST 4 WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STAYING 5 CLOSE AND LISTENING AND UNDERSTANDING MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE 6 MOST PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY COMMUNITY, WHICH IS 7 BAYVIEW HUNTERS POINT. 8 AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENDEAVOR OF 9 WORKING WITH ME AND WORKING WITH PUC AND TURNING ALL THE 10 THINGS AROUND THAT HAD BEEN LOST IN MY COMMUNITY OVER THE 11 YEARS. I WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 12 AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW ONE THING, SWEETHEART, 13 YOU KNOW I'VE GOT YOUR CELL NUMBER. AND IF YOU CHANGE IT, 14 I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY, AND I AM 15 GOING TO GET IT FROM THEM. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY 16 ABOUT ME NOT STAYING IN TOUCH WITH YOU BECAUSE -- 17 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 18 MS. JACKSON: -- I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOU. 19 I LOOK AT YOU LIKE MY YOUNG BROTHER. YOU KNOW, 20 ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE GIVEN HOPE BACK 21 TO MY COMMUNITY. HOPE IS NOW COMING ABOUT. THANK YOU SO 22 VERY MUCH. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: INGRID WYNN. 24 MS. WYNN: HI. I CAN'T REALLY EMPHASIZE HOW 25 MUCH THAT MEANT FROM MOMMA JACKSON BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A APRIL 26, 2012 28 1 ROUGH ROAD. 2 AND I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW PRETTY MUCH 3 EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD AND MOST PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME, I AM 4 HELL TO DEAL WITH. 5 YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU AS A STRONG LEADER, 6 AS A MENTOR, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED, NOT JUST 7 MAINLY AT OCEAN OR HERE ON THE BOARD, BUT YOU'VE REALLY 8 BEEN INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AT 9 THE VARIOUS CAMPUSES. AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ACTUALLY TO 10 HAVE A CHANCELLOR THAT DOES THAT. GETS THERE, GET 11 INVOLVED, AND BE LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS GOING 12 ON. WE WANT TO HELP. AND WE ARE HERE. AND YOU'VE 13 ACTUALLY PROVEN THAT. 14 YOU CAME INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE OTHER BOARD 15 MEMBERS AND SAID, WE ARE HERE. WE ARE STAYING. WE ARE 16 NOT GOING ANYWHERE. AND YOU KNOW IT'S EVIDENT WITH EVANS, 17 PUC, SOUTHEAST. AND I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH. A LOT OF 18 THE STUDENTS FROM SOUTHEAST AND EVANS, WE REALLY 19 APPRECIATE YOU. 20 AND I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR 21 PUTTING UP, DEALING WITH US, DEALING WITH EVERYBODY IN 22 PARTICULAR. AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT WITH JUST 23 ADMINISTRATION, STUDENTS, EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. ALL THE 24 COMMITTEES YOU'VE BEEN SITTING ON, EVERYTHING YOU'VE PUT 25 TOGETHER. IT'S A LOT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO DO. APRIL 26, 2012 29 1 AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WASN'T LOOKING AT ALL 2 THAT. I'M JUST LIKE, YOU ARE THE MAN. YOU ARE SUPPOSED 3 TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. JUST DO IT. YOU KNOW, AND SO WHEN YOU 4 REALLY LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF YOU'VE GIVEN TO EVERYONE, YOU 5 ARE APPRECIATED. 6 SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU 7 HAVE DONE. THE STUDENTS AT OUR CAMPUSES ALSO WANT TO SAY, 8 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU HAVE GIVEN US. THANK YOU, 9 CHANCELLOR. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MANDI LAM. 11 MS. LAM: HI. GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, AND CITY COLLEGE -- MEMBERS OF CITY 13 COLLEGE FAMILY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU. 14 FIRST OF ALL, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, I AM SO 15 HONORED TO HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET YOU, TO HAVE INTERACTIONS 16 WITH YOU AND TO BE -- YOU KNOW TO HAVE -- SORRY. I DIDN'T 17 PREPARE THIS. 18 BUT I AM SO HONORED AND GRATEFUL TO HAVE AN 19 OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW YOU AND TO HAVE -- TO EVEN HAVE 20 CONTACT WITH YOU. WE SPENT A LITTLE TIME BEFORE THIS 21 MEETING, AND IT'S SAD HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE FEELING ILL, 22 BUT I WISH YOU HAVE A -- I WISH YOU A SPEEDY RECOVERY. 23 AND TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, AND I THINK WE CAN ALL TAKE 24 CARE OF OURSELVES, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT US. WE CAN TAKE 25 CARE OF EACH OTHER. APRIL 26, 2012 30 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: GOOD. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 3 MS. LAM: THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FORMER OCEAN CAMPUS ASSOCIATED 5 STUDENT PRESIDENT, ELIZABETH WEINBERG. 6 MS. WEINBERG: HI. HELLO, EVERYONE. GOOD 7 EVENING. 8 IT'S SO NICE TO BE HERE. IT'S SO NICE TO SEE 9 YOU, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 10 AND I JUST WANTED TO -- WELL, FIRST I WANT TO 11 SAY, IT TAKES -- I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND ON CAMPUS THIS MUCH 12 THIS PAST YEAR. I DON'T HAVE AS MANY CLASSES. BUT THIS 13 IS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY CELEBRATING CHANCELLOR 14 GRIFFIN'S LIFE AND WORK HERE AT CITY COLLEGE IS DEFINITELY 15 SOMETHING THAT BRINGS ME OUT OF THE WOODWORK. 16 AND I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT 17 WAS JUST AN ABSOLUTE PRIVILEGE AND HONOR, TO BE SERVING ON 18 THE STUDENT BODY AS OCEAN CAMPUS PRESIDENT THIS PAST YEAR 19 WITH THE BROADER LEADERSHIP OF CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN AND THIS 20 INCREDIBLE BOARD. 21 AND I ALSO HAVE LEARNED JUST AN INCREDIBLE 22 AMOUNT JUST FROM THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND I AM 23 GREATLY HONORED TO HAVE BEEN PART OF IT. 24 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KEEP THIS SHORT AND SAY 25 THAT CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN IS A MODEL OF LEADERSHIP AND APRIL 26, 2012 31 1 DEDICATION AND SERVICE AND TRULY KINDNESS AS WELL. AND I 2 AM VERY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL. 3 SO, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, THANK YOU FROM MY HEART. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: VERONICA GARCIA. 5 MS. GARCIA: HI. GOOD EVENING. I GET SO 6 NERVOUS UP HERE, SO EXCUSE ME. 7 I JUST REALLY WANT TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO THE 8 CHANCELLOR BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S -- TO SOME DEGREE, IT'S 9 UNFORTUNATE THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM AS 10 MUCH AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED. BUT I AM VERY FORTUNATE AND 11 GRATEFUL FOR THE TIME I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH HIM. 12 AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S AMAZING TO HAVE THE 13 LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION THAT WE'VE HAD FROM HIM. 14 AT MY FOUR YEARS NOW ALMOST AT CITY COLLEGE, I 15 DIDN'T INTERACT WITH HIM UNTIL VERY RECENTLY. AND IT HAS 16 BEEN AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE. AND I THINK THAT IT'S GOING 17 TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO FILL HIS SHOES. AND I THINK THAT 18 HE IS LEAVING AN INCREDIBLE LEGACY BEHIND WITH THE ISSUES 19 THAT IS HE'S BEEN ABLE TO HELP RESOLVE AND THE CHANGES 20 THAT HE'S MADE. AND HE IS AN INCREDIBLE HUMAN BEING. AND 21 I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM AND ALL HIS HARD WORK AND HIS 22 DEDICATION AND REALLY BEING ABLE TO SEE STUDENTS FOR WHO 23 THEY ARE AND NOT FOR A NUMBER OR NOT FOR THE COLOR OF 24 SKIN, AND THAT'S AMAZING. 25 AND I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT HE APRIL 26, 2012 32 1 PUTS STUDENTS FIRST. IT'S NOT ABOUT HIM OR, YOU KNOW, HIS 2 BELIEFS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. HE ACTUALLY LOOKS AT THE 3 ISSUE FOR WHAT IT IS. AND HE WANTS STUDENTS TO SUCCEED, 4 AND THAT'S AMAZING. AND FOR US TO -- I'M SORRY. 5 I NEED TO USE A DIFFERENT ADJECTIVE THAN 6 AMAZING, BUT THAT'S INCREDIBLE. THAT'S PHENOMENAL TO HAVE 7 THAT BECAUSE IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE DON'T SEE THAT VERY 8 OFTEN AT CITY COLLEGE. 9 BUT I WOULD ALSO REALLY LIKE TO THANK HIM AND 10 REALLY SHOW GRATITUDE FOR SHOWING THE REPRESENTATION BY 11 WEARING A STICKER ON BEHALF OF STUDENTS AND MULTIPLE 12 PLACEMENT OPTIONS FOR STUDENTS NOW BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE 13 WOULDN'T YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S GREAT THAT HIM AND HIS ROLE 14 HE IS CHOOSING TO STAND UP FOR WHAT HE BELIEVES IN. AND 15 HE IS WEARING A STICKER AND HAS REALLY HELD IT DOWN FOR 16 STUDENTS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: KOVAK WILLIAMS (SIC). 19 MR. WILLIAMSON: KOVAK WILLIAMSON, BUSINESS 20 DEPARTMENT, PART-TIME NONCREDIT, AFT 2121, AND THE 21 ACADEMIC SENATE. 22 THANK YOU, PRESIDENT RIZZO. 23 DR. GRIFFIN, WHEN I GROW UP, I WANT TO BE JUST 24 LIKE YOU. I AM LOOKING AROUND THIS ROOM, AND I'M GOING TO 25 SAY THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DATES TO REMEMBER. YOU KNOW, APRIL 26, 2012 33 1 WHERE WERE YOU WHEN WE SALUTED DR. GRIFFIN, AND IT WAS THE 2 LAST, YOU KNOW, BOARD MEETING THAT HE WAS OFFICIALLY THERE 3 AS CHANCELLOR? WERE YOU THERE? WHO ELSE WAS THERE? WHO 4 WAS SITTING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOU? WHO WAS SITTING ON 5 THE LEFT SIDE OF YOU? 6 ALL THE BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEMBERS, YOU SAID 7 WONDERFUL THINGS. AND WHEN TRUSTEE NGO SAID, WE ARE GOING 8 TO NAME -- YOU KNOW, WE GOT A GRIFFIN HALL. WE ARE GOING 9 TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. I REMEMBER WHEN DR. GRIFFIN CAME 10 TO JOHN ADAMS CAMPUS, ALONG WITH TRUSTEE GRIER AND TRUSTEE 11 RIZZO AND OTHER FOLKS TRUSTEE BERG, AND WE WERE MAD AT 12 JOHN ADAMS. WE WERE PISSED OFF BECAUSE THE RETROFIT WORK 13 WASN'T GOING RIGHT. ALL THE PROMISES WERE BEING BROKEN, 14 AND WE DID A WALK-THROUGH. 15 YOU ALL WERE THERE. WE DID A WALK-THROUGH. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN SAID, WE ARE GOING TO FIX THAT. THE 17 WINDOWS, WE ARE GOING TO FIX THAT. THE PROMISES WE MADE 18 ABOUT THE LIBRARY, WE ARE GOING TO FIX THAT. THE COLORS 19 YOU WANT ON THE WALLS, WE ARE GOING TO FIX THAT. 20 AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO JOHN ADAMS CAMPUS, 21 YOU NEED TO COME THERE. DR. GRIFFIN AND MEMBERS OF THE 22 BOARD OF TRUSTEES, YOU FIXED IT. WE ARE IN A GOOD 23 BUILDING THERE. IT'S A GREAT CAMPUS. WE ARE HAPPY TO BE 24 THERE. 25 I AM GOING TO ADD ON WITH TRUSTEE NGO THAT WELL, APRIL 26, 2012 34 1 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING IN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO 2 COME UP WITH A NEW NAME -- 3 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 4 MR. WILLIAMSON: -- FOR THE JOHN ADAMS CAMPUS. 5 AND SO YOU SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT. OKAY? WE NEED 6 A NEW NAME FOR THE JOHN ADAMS CAMPUS. SO YOU SEE WHERE I 7 AM GOING WITH THAT, OKAY. JUST LIKE WE NEED SOME OTHER 8 THINGS. 9 NOW QUICKLY, BECAUSE I HEARD THE BELL, I LOVE 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN FOR A LOT OF REASONS. NOW CERTAINLY 11 YOU KNOW IN MANY INSTANCES, HE IS THE BRIGHTEST BULB. HE 12 IS THE BRIGHTEST LIGHT. WE RECOGNIZE THAT. BUT WHAT IS 13 ATTRACTIVE TO ME ABOUT DR. GRIFFIN IS HIS HUMILITY. HE IS 14 A HUMBLE LEADER. HE IS A GIANT. HE IS A REDWOOD, BUT HE 15 IS HUMBLE. AND HE LEADS WITH GRACE AND CHARM. I MEAN WE 16 KNOW HE IS A HANDSOME GUY, BUT NONETHELESS, HE LEADS BY 17 EXAMPLE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. 18 PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN. I 19 THANK YOU FOR THE SHINNING EXAMPLE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP. WE 20 WANT TO GET MORE FOLKS LIKE CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN INTO OUR 21 INSTITUTION SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE SHINNING EXAMPLES 22 AND MORE SHOULDERS TO STAND ON. 23 AND SO, DR. GRIFFIN, THANK YOU. I WILL SAY IT 24 ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, ON BEHALF OF MY CAMPUS, ON BEHALF OF 25 MY DEPARTMENT, ON BEHALF OF MY UNION, ON BEHALF OF MY APRIL 26, 2012 35 1 SENATE, ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY 2 AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO, WE THANK YOU. WE THANK YOU. 3 AND THEN WE THANK YOU AGAIN. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: KOVAK, THERE'S ALSO THE STATE 5 OF CALIFORNIA AND THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES. 6 MR. WILLIAMSON: FROM SEA TO SEA SHINNING SEA 7 COUNTRY, NORTH AMERICA, THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: KITTY MORIWAKI. 9 MS. MORIWAKI: WELL, DR. GRIFFIN, DEFINITELY MY 10 FAVORITE PERSON HERE AT CITY COLLEGE. I HAVE BEEN HERE 11 ALMOST 30 YEARS, AND THERE'S BEEN NO ONE LIKE YOU. I WANT 12 TO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS STICKING OUT YOUR NECK TO TRY TO 13 RIGHT WRONGS, PRESENT AND PAST. WE HAD A TALK THE OTHER 14 DAY AND YOU SAID, IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU SEEK TRUTH, BUT 15 IT'S BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE PRACTICAL. BUT I DON'T 16 BELIEVE THAT. 17 I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE 18 JAPANESE-AMERICAN COMMUNITY FOR YOUR ELOQUENCE IN A VERY 19 PUBLIC MANNER TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE NATION, FOR THE STATE, 20 AND FOR THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM FOR NOT 21 PROTECTING THE NISEI, THE SECOND GENERATION 22 JAPANESE-AMERICAN STUDENTS, NOT ONLY AT CITY COLLEGE, BUT 23 IN HIGH SCHOOLS, FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITIES, WHO WERE ABRUPTLY 24 DISENROLLED IN MARCH OF 1942 AND SENT OFF TO INTERNMENT 25 CAMPS. THEIR EDUCATION IS COMPLETELY INTERRUPTED. AND IN APRIL 26, 2012 36 1 MOST CASES, THOSE STUDENTS WERE NEVER ABLE TO RETURN TO 2 COLLEGE AGAIN SO THAT WAS JUST AMAZING. 3 I HAVE NOT HEARD OF A COLLEGE CHANCELLOR OR 4 PRESIDENT APOLOGIZING FOR AN ENTIRE INSTITUTION LIKE THAT. 5 AND YOUR WORDS ARE PART OF THE MEMORIAL THAT IS HOUSED IN 6 MUB-140. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALSO FOR HELPING US GET THAT 7 INSTALLED AS A PERMANENT MEMORIAL TO THOSE OVER 200 8 STUDENTS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CARMEN LAMHA. 10 MS. LAMHA: HI, DON. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: HI. 12 MS. LAMHA: I MET YOU BEFORE YOU WERE A 13 CHANCELLOR. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S TRUE. 15 MS. LAMHA: SO I ALLOWED MYSELF TO THAT. 16 YOU KNOW EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT THE 17 PROFESSIONAL DON. AND I REALLY WANT TO BRING UP THE FACT 18 THAT YOU ARE A FRIEND. AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU WELL, 19 AND I NEEDED SOME VERY PERSONAL ADVICE. AND YOU TOOK THE 20 TIME TO TALK TO ME. AND I REALLY STARTED FEELING LIKE 21 THERE WAS A CITY COLLEGE FAMILY WHEN I MET YOU. SO I WANT 22 TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S THE LAST CARD I HAVE. 24 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 25 MR. CRAWFORD: I DIDN'T PUT A CARD IN -- APRIL 26, 2012 37 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DID YOU? I DIDN'T SEE IT. 2 THANK YOU. 3 MR. CRAWFORD: HELLO, MY NAME IS ELI CRAWFORD 4 AND THE BOARD KNOWS ME. 5 DON, THE CHANCELLOR, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN 6 BEAUTIFUL. YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO MY COMMUNITY, WHICH IS 7 THE FORMALLY INCARCERATED COMMUNITY, IN A REAL WAY. THE 8 COMMUNITY THAT I COME FROM. YOU KNOW, I CAME HERE TONIGHT 9 FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK 10 YOU FOR GIVING ME A LITTLE BIT OF THAT HUMILITY AND 11 TEACHING ME SOME THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO OUT 12 HERE. I KNEW HOW TO DO THEM INSIDE IN LEAVENWORTH AND 13 OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT. 14 BUT YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SAY ONE THING MAINLY. 15 YOU KNOW, EVEN IN YOUR GREATNESS, YOU HAVEN'T FELL SHORT, 16 BUT THE SCHOOL HAS FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS, NOT 17 JUST THE FORMALLY INCARCERATED COMMUNITY, BUT 18 AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED THAT OUT 19 OF ALL THE DIVERSITY THAT'S PLAYED HERE, WE DON'T HAVE ONE 20 AFRICAN AMERICAN ON THE MATH TEACHERS LIST. WE DON'T 21 HAVE -- WE ONLY HAVE ONE ENGLISH AFRICAN AMERICAN. 22 ALL OF THE CLASSES THAT IS GENERATED FOR THE 23 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS FOR THE COMMUNITY THERE, JANITORIAL 24 SERVICES, CLASSES AROUND HOME ECONOMICS, SOCIAL SECURITY 25 WORK, THEM TYPE OF JOBS, THINGS ARE NOT PRESENT AT APRIL 26, 2012 38 1 SOUTHEAST. WE NEED SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE FROM THAT 2 COMMUNITY -- BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS. THEY'VE 3 GOT SKILLS, BUT WE HAVE A CAMPUS THAT'S SITTING THERE -- 4 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 5 MR. CRAWFORD: -- THAT DON'T PROVIDE FOR THEM. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 MR. CRAWFORD: I KNOW YOU WANTED TO RUSH ME OFF. 8 I KNEW THAT. I'M GOOD. BUT I THANK YOU. BUT I AM GOING 9 TO BE NICE TODAY. 10 BUT I DO HAVE ONE THING TO SAY -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. YOUR 12 TIME IS UP. 13 MR. CRAWFORD: I WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE AND PUT 14 IN FRONT A SISTER HERE THAT TEACHES NAMED IDA MCCRAY, WHO 15 IS A VERY STRONG PERSON FOR THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY, FOR THE 16 AFRICAN WOMAN, AND THE FORMALLY INCARCERATED THAT ISN'T 17 GETTING ANYTHING THAT SHE IS WORTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 THAT WAS THE LAST CARD THAT I HAD. 20 IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 21 SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC 22 COMMENT NOW. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON 24 THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE US? 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WELL, ON THE RESOLUTION, I APRIL 26, 2012 39 1 ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE IT, 2 OTHERWISE I CAN'T GET OUT OF DODGE. I AM LEAVING DODGE, 3 SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION APPROVED. 4 OF COURSE, I LOOK VERY MUCH FORWARD TO RETIRING 5 AGAIN. I RETIRED IN 2007, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY 6 PERFECT, A PERFECT TIME TO RETIRE. AND I DID ENJOY BEING 7 RETIRED FOR THOSE FOUR MONTHS, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING 8 ABOUT CITY COLLEGE THAT IS VERY SEDUCTIVE AND COMPELLING. 9 I CAN REMEMBER IN 1969 I WAS AN ASSISTANT 10 PROFESSOR AT SAN FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY. AND WE WERE 11 BATTLING WITH THE FORCES OF EVIL IN TERMS OF SAN FRANCISCO 12 STATE WHICH WERE BASICALLY TRYING TO GET THAT COLLEGE BACK 13 ON TRACK IN TERMS OF STUDENTS COMING IN. SO AFTER TWO 14 MONTHS' STRIKE, I WAS ARRESTED WITH 400 AND SOME ODD OTHER 15 PEOPLE. TY POWELL (PHONETIC) SAID, YOU'VE GOT TO GO. AND 16 SO I WAS, OF COURSE, TERMINATED, WHICH WAS NOT A BAD THING 17 BECAUSE I HAD A VERY GOOD RAPPORT WITH STUDENTS. 18 AND STUDENTS SAID, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE'S A 19 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO? 20 I SAID, WHAT? 21 YEAH, IT'S A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. JUST GO DOWN 22 HOLLOWAY AND MAKE A LEFT TURN. 23 AND I WENT RIGHT INTO CITY COLLEGE. AND SO I 24 DID THAT AND TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE COLLEGE. I 25 GUESS IT WAS PRESIDENT DAN CONLON, NO. 2. I WAS THE APRIL 26, 2012 40 1 NO. 2 -- THERE WAS ONLY ONE GUY BEFORE CONLON, AND I GUESS 2 THAT WAS CLOUD, RIGHT? 3 SO I WAS HIRED BY THE NO. 2. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 4 PICTURES ON THE WALL, I KNEW ALL OF THOSE GUYS. THERE WAS 5 ONLY THE NO. 2 GUY, HE SAID, I TELL YOU WHAT, WE ARE GOING 6 TO GIVE YOU A JOB. WE LIKE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS 7 ABOUT YOU, EXCEPT YOU'VE BEEN IN BERKELEY THE FREE SPEECH 8 MOVEMENT, GOT ARRESTED OVER THERE. NOW YOU'VE GOT 9 ARRESTED OVER HERE AT SAN FRANCISCO STATE. YOU ARE ON 10 TRIAL. AND I TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. WE ARE 11 GOING TO HIRE YOU CONDITIONALLY. IF YOU ARE ACQUITTED, 12 YOU GET TO STAY. AND IF YOU ARE CONVICTED, YOU'RE GOOD TO 13 GO. AND SO THAT WAS A LITTLE ADVENTURE. 14 WE WERE TRIED IN GROUPS OF TEN. I WAS IN THE 15 FIRST GROUP OF TEN. THAT GROUP WAS ACQUITTED. ALL THE 16 REST WERE CONVICTED. SO THAT WAS KIND OF AN INTERESTING 17 TURN OF THE SCRUTINY. 18 THE OTHER THING ABOUT CITY COLLEGE WAS THAT YOU 19 KNOW THOSE GUYS, THEY WERE THINKING IN 1960 NODDING ABOUT 20 SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT TODAY. 21 THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT OH, THIS IS JUST RECYCLING. WE 22 WERE THINKING ABOUT THOSE SAME ISSUES IN 1969, AND YOU ARE 23 THINKING ABOUT TODAY. A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WERE ABOUT 24 JUSTICE AND HOW WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY AND WHAT WE ARE GOING 25 TO DO FOR PEOPLE. AND SO THAT WAS A DREAM. APRIL 26, 2012 41 1 NOW THERE WAS A -- AFTER I WAS WORKING FOR JUST 2 SIX MONTHS, I GOT A CALL INTO THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE. AND 3 HE SAID, WE ARE TAKING AWAY -- THE STATE IS TAKING AWAY 4 YOUR TEACHING CREDENTIALS. THEY GAVE IT TO YOU BY 5 MISTAKE. THEY DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE ARRESTED OVER HERE IN 6 THESE AREAS AND SO FORTH, AND SO WE WERE TAKING AWAY YOUR 7 CREDENTIALS. 8 AND SO I WAS ACTUALLY TEACHING PART-TIME ALSO AT 9 PERALTA SYSTEM AT NIGHT. I WAS TEACHING FULL-TIME HERE. 10 SO AS SOON AS I CAME TO PERALTA, THEY JUST CALLED ME IN 11 AND SAID, WE ARE TERMINATING YOU ON THE SPOT. YOUR 12 CREDENTIALS HAVE BEEN LIFTED. 13 I WALKED INTO CITY COLLEGE, THEY SAID, DON'T 14 WORRY ABOUT. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. WE KNOW A GUY NAMED 15 WILLIE BROWN. WE KNOW A GUY NAMED GEORGE MOSCONE. WE 16 KNOW SOME PEOPLE. TRUE STORY. TRUE STORY. TRUE STORY. 17 AND SO I WENT OVER TO WILLIE BROWN, AND I SAID, 18 WILLIE, I COME TO SAN FRANCISCO STATE WORKING WITH ME WHEN 19 I WAS THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF THE UNDERGROUND PROGRAM. 20 AND SO HE SAID, YOU KNOW, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. SO WILLIE 21 WROTE A LETTER AND WENT TO THE STATE. AND THE STATE -- HE 22 WENT IN THERE. AND I WAS WAITING OUTSIDE FOR A WHILE, 23 WHAT'S GOING ON? AND PEOPLE WERE SAYING -- THEY WERE 24 COMING OUT IN TEARS OUT OF THE OFFICE BECAUSE THESE WERE 25 THE APPEAL PROCESS. AND FINALLY, THE GUY CAME OUT AND APRIL 26, 2012 42 1 SAID, YOU MAY GO HOME. HERE'S YOUR NEW CREDENTIAL. AND I 2 THOUGHT, WOW, CITY COLLEGE IS REALLY SOMETHING. BUT IT'S 3 JUST AMAZING HOW THEY DEALT WITH IT SO DIFFERENTLY THAN 4 EVERYTHING ELSE. 5 SO NOW WHAT ARE WE SITTING HERE A TIME WARP. 6 NO, CITY COLLEGE JUST DOES EVERYTHING DIFFERENT. IT 7 ALWAYS HAS, AND IT ALWAYS WILL. AND SO WE KIND OF GOT TO 8 GET USED TO THAT. 9 SO MY EXPERIENCE 27 YEARS OF BASICALLY TEACHING 10 AT CITY COLLEGE, LEARNING THAT, AS KAREN SAID, WE WILL 11 SUPPORT THE DYNAMIC IN THE ROOM IS PROBABLY LOVE IN TERMS 12 OF WORKING WITH STUDENTS BECAUSE THEY COULD FEEL IT IF 13 IT'S ABSENT. WHEN IT'S THERE, NO OBSTACLES ARE TOO GREAT 14 IN TERMS OF STUDENTS. I HAVE SEEN STUDENTS DO MIRACULOUS 15 THINGS IN TERMS OF THEIR INVOLVEMENT. SO THAT WAS AN 16 AMAZING EXPERIENCE. 17 AND THEN GOING INTO THE ADMINISTRATION, WHICH WE 18 ALL THOUGHT AS TEACHERS WAS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD 19 YOU CAN DO, AND IT IS. NO, BUT REALLY, IT IS. IT IS NOT 20 COOL AT ALL. NECESSARY, BUT NOT COOL. IT'S A LOT OF HARD 21 WORK. IT REALLY IS. 22 I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE BECAUSE I WAS A 23 TEACHER FOR SIX OR SEVEN YEARS BEFORE GETTING HERE AND 27 24 YEARS HERE, THAT IS THE HARDEST WORK TO BE DONE AND SO 25 CONTINUOUS AND VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT DOWN. APRIL 26, 2012 43 1 BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU CAN MULTIPLY 2 YOUR EFFECT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND THOSE 3 KIND OF MULTIPLICATIONS IS WHAT WE ARE SEEKING. 4 SO I THINK IN TERMS OF BEING THE CHANCELLOR OF 5 THE INSTITUTION, IT IS TOO VALUABLE A MULTIPLIER NOT TO 6 TAKE IT ON IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. I DIDN'T 7 FEEL, AND I DON'T FEEL, THAT I WAS THE BEST PERSON TO BE 8 CHANCELLOR AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. BUT I WILL 9 SAY THAT I DID MY BEST EFFORT IN DOING IT NO MATTER HOW 10 FLAWED THAT EFFORT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OR IS. 11 AND SO I AM VERY PROUD OF THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT 12 I'VE ESTABLISHED BECAUSE AS A PSYCHOLOGIST, I SPENT TEN 13 YEARS WORKING WITH VETERANS OF ALL TYPES, VIETNAM 14 VETERANS, DESERT STORM, WORLD WAR II, EVEN SOME WORLD 15 WAR I VETERANS. AND IF YOU SIT THERE IN THOSE GROUPS WITH 16 PEOPLE WHO HAVE PTD, SCHIZOPHRENIA, DEPRESSION, ALL SORTS 17 OF ANXIETY DISORDERS AND SO FORTH, AND YOU RELIVE THEIR 18 EXPERIENCES WITH THEM. SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO SPEND 19 TIME AND SUFFERING WITH PEOPLE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO 20 ACTUALLY HAVE YOUR PACK LINED UP. 21 AS A VETERAN, ALSO VIEW WHO IS REAL, WHO IS NOT 22 REAL, WHO IS PAYING ATTENTION, AND WHO IS NOT PAYING 23 ATTENTION, WHO WANTS TO HELP, AND WHO CAN'T HELP, BUT THAT 24 TENURE EXPERIENCE WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME JUST LIKE THE 25 TEACHING EXPERIENCE. APRIL 26, 2012 44 1 NOW AS FAR AS BEING THE CHANCELLOR OF THE 2 DISTRICT, ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS IS HAS BEEN 3 ACTUALLY WORKING INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS 4 BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ONE BOARD MEMBER HERE AT THE COLLEGE 5 THAT I DON'T HAVE REALLY DEEP AFFECTION FOR AND IN SOME 6 CASE EVEN LOVE. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IT'S OKAY. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND THE REASON THAT I SAY 9 THAT IS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WORK OR MY PARENTS WERE -- MY 10 FATHER WHO DIED IN 101 -- 101 YEARS, NOT 101, BUT 101 11 YEARS REALLY STRESSED THE SERVICE MENTALITY THAT YOU ARE 12 HERE ON EARTH TO SERVE PEOPLE. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON YOU 13 ARE HERE. THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. AND SO THAT'S WHAT HE 14 INCULCATED FROM A VERY EARLY STAGE IN LIFE. THAT'S WHAT 15 WE ARE HERE FOR. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET ALL OF YOUR 16 REAL ENERGY AND WHO YOU ARE IS THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND 17 PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE SERVING. 18 SO THAT'S WHY I LOVE CITY COLLEGE BECAUSE WE CAN 19 TALK ABOUT ANYONE YOU WANT TO FROM ANYBODY FROM THIS SIDE 20 TO THAT SIDE TO THIS SIDE. I HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE HERE. 21 THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THAT'S WHAT THEY LOVE DOING. THAT'S 22 WHAT THEY DO WELL. THEY ARE NOT AS DIFFERENT FROM YOU OR 23 SOMEBODY ELSE THAT YOU WOULD THINK BECAUSE WHEN YOU START 24 REALLY DEALING WITH THEM, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ALL ABOUT. 25 AND THIS IS A NOBLE PROFESSION. WORKING AT CITY APRIL 26, 2012 45 1 COLLEGE IS NOBLE. I AM NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT JUST 2 TEACHING. I AM TALKING ABOUT STUDENTS ENGAGED LOCALLY. I 3 AM TALKING ABOUT STAFF, CLASSIFIED, ADMINISTRATION, ALL OF 4 US. IT IS A VERY NOBLE PROFESSION, AND TO DEDICATE YOUR 5 LIFE THIS WAY, HALF OF YOU COULD BE OUT THERE MAKING A TON 6 OF MONEY, REALLY A TON OF MONEY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY 7 WANT TO DO, BUT YOU ARE CHOOSING TO DO IT HERE. 8 NOW I HAVE NO INCLINATION -- I HAVE NO DESIRE, 9 AND NO I HAVE NO INTENTION OF EVER PUTTING ON THE HARNESS 10 HERE AT CITY COLLEGE AGAIN. 11 MY SIGN IS A HORSE. THAT'S THE SIGN OF THE -- 12 IN THE CHINESE SYMBOL, IT'S A HORSE. AND HORSES SOME OF 13 THE TIMES ARE VERY STUPID. THEY KEEP RUNNING UNTIL THEY 14 FALL. AND SO IF YOU GET A SIGNAL AND THE HORSE STOPS, 15 THEN THE HORSE SHOULD LISTEN AND SAY THERE'S A SIGNAL THAT 16 SAYS YOU SHOULD STOP. AND SO THIS IS ONE HORSE THAT'S NOT 17 RUNNING ANYMORE IN THE DERBY, IN THE CITY COLLEGE DERBY. 18 IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, I PUT 42 YEARS IN HERE. YOU PUT 42 19 YEARS IN HERE. ALL RIGHT, YOU MATCH MY 42 YEARS, I WON'T 20 BE AROUND THAT'S COOL. BUT AS FAR AS THE STUDENTS ARE 21 CONCERNED. IT ALL COMES BACK TO THE STUDENTS. THE CIRCLE 22 IS HERE. 23 THE REASON I HAVE BEEN SO STUBBORN ABOUT SOME OF 24 THESE ISSUES IS BECAUSE IT EFFECTS THE LIVES OF THE 25 STUDENTS. THESE ISSUES ARE SO STUBBORN BECAUSE WE KNOW APRIL 26, 2012 46 1 THAT IF WE'RE A COLLEGE, WE HAVE TO BE STUBBORN ABOUT THE 2 ISSUES AS FAR AS STUDENTS ARE CONCERNED. AND I HAVE TO 3 SAY TO YOU THAT I HAVE BEEN WRONG -- I THINK I'M WRONG 4 10 PERCENT OF THE TIME. AND I AM WRONG -- I AM RIGHT 5 PROBABLY 50 PERCENT OF THE TIME, SO THAT LEAVES -- WHAT IS 6 THAT 40 PERCENT? 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: 40 PERCENT. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: 40 PERCENT IN DOUBT. 9 THAT'S NOT TOO MUCH. 10 SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN STATED. 11 I AM NOT REJECTING ANYTHING IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S FEELINGS 12 OR SUPPORT THE THING AS A PSYCHOLOGIST. I AM TRYING TO 13 RETURN TO MY ROOTS AS A PSYCHOLOGIST AND PERSON AND BE 14 LESS OF A ROBOT. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO TAKE IN 15 THE FEELINGS AND SUPPORT OF PEOPLE AS I FACE PROBABLY A 16 VERY INTERESTING ADVENTURE IN MY LIFE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS 17 THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, FEW MOMENTS OR THE NEXT FEW YEARS 18 GOING TO BE LIKE. 19 AND I WANT TO JUST -- MILTON IS HERE. I WANT TO 20 EXPRESS TO MILTON JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE MILTON IS ONE 21 OF MY HEROES BECAUSE HE'S PRETTY MUCH OPEN TO PEOPLE. IF 22 YOU START LOOKING AT THE WAY HE INTERACTS WITH PEOPLE, HE 23 IS REALLY, REALLY OPEN TO PEOPLE. AND HE'S -- I THINK HE 24 IS STILL A BRILLIANT GUY, BUT I AM NOT SURE. HE WAS. 25 BUT, YOU KNOW, I AM JUST BEING REAL. IT'S LIKE -- YOU APRIL 26, 2012 47 1 KNOW MILTON IS LIKE INCREDIBLE. HE HAD AN INCREDIBLE 2 MEMORY AND AN INCREDIBLE MIND AND SO FORTH. AND IT'S 3 PROBABLY STILL THERE, BUT I REALLY ADMIRE HIM BECAUSE OF 4 HIS CONVICTIONS. AND HE WAS PROBABLY, ALONG WITH NATALIE 5 AND ANITA, MILTON, ARE PROBABLY THE REASON IF YOU WANT TO 6 BLAME SOMEBODY FOR MY BEING HERE, THEY PROBABLY HAVE A 7 THIRD OR 50 PERCENT OF THE BLAME AND THE REST OF IT GOES 8 TO ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE BECAUSE I WAS THE CONSENSUS 9 PERSON. 10 NOW DO YOU EVER WANT TO HAVE A CONSENSUS PERSON 11 AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I AM NOT SURE. 12 I AM NOT GIVING OUT ADVICE, BUT I AM GOING TO GET OUT OF 13 HERE BEFORE THE FIREWORKS GO OFF IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, 14 THESE ISSUES THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT 15 TONIGHT. 16 BUT REST ASSURED, THERE'S ONE LAST THING THAT I 17 WANT TO SAY, CITY COLLEGE CANNOT BE GREAT IN SAN FRANCISCO 18 ANYMORE WITHOUT HAVING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH UNIFIED. 19 I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THAT, 20 BUT IF THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO CLING 21 TO, CLING TO IT BECAUSE THAT IS VERY, VERY ESSENTIAL FOR A 22 CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO. WE HAVE WHAT'S GOING ON 23 IN K-12. IT'S GOT TO BE MIRRORED VERY CLOSELY TO WHAT'S 24 HAPPENING AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 25 I'VE TRIED TO WORK ON THAT IN TERMS OF SOME OF APRIL 26, 2012 48 1 THESE INITIATIVES. AND THAT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT 2 THING. WE CAN'T BE POINTING FINGERS AT EACH OTHER WHEN WE 3 ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT IN TERMS OF THE EDUCATION OF OUR 4 CITY AND COUNTY PEOPLE, ALL OF THEM. SO ON THAT, I THINK 5 I BETTER GET OUT OF HERE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO 7 TAKE SOME PICTURES. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: WAIT. WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE 9 RESOLUTION. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE 11 RESOLUTION OR ELSE YOU CAN'T LEAVE. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: AND THE CAKE. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ALL RIGHT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. BEFORE THAT, I 15 KNOW I CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE A DIGNITARY 16 HERE WHO I THINK WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING, MR. AMOS BROWN. 17 REVEREND DR. BROWN: REVEREND. 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: REVEREND DR. BROWN. 19 REVEREND DR. BROWN: MR. CHAIRMAN, TO OUR 20 RETIRING CHANCELLOR, TO ALL OF YOU MEMBERS OF THIS AUGUST 21 BOARD. I AM NOT A VISITOR. I SERVED ON THIS BOARD BACK 22 IN THE DECADE OF THE 80'S WHEN I WAS APPOINTED BY 23 THEN-MAYOR DIANE FEINSTEIN AND THEN ELECTED TO THE BOARD 24 ON MY OWN MERIT. 25 I THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME AT THIS POINT TO DO APRIL 26, 2012 49 1 TWO THINGS. NO. 1, TO COMMEND OUR CHANCELLOR FOR HIS 2 UNPARALLELED AND HIS STERLING LEADERSHIP. AND MUCH HAS 3 BEEN SAID ALONG THAT LINE. AND ACTUALLY AS A BAPTIST 4 PREACHER, I WILL ALLOW YOU TO SAY, AMEN AND SIT DOWN. 5 I WANT TO CAUTION YOU ON ONE THING AGAINST THE 6 BACKDROP OF THIS QUICK ILLUSTRATION. ON JULY THE 4TH, 7 2010, I LOST A BIT OF MY INDEPENDENCE WHEN I SUFFERED AN 8 ISCHEMIC STROKE. BUT THANK GOD, THOUGH MY MOBILITY WAS 9 COMPROMISED, BUT MY MOUTH AND MY MIND STAYED INTACT. 10 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: AMEN. 11 REVEREND DR. BROWN: AND WHILE I WAS IN HERRICK 12 HOSPITAL RECUPERATING, I DID SOME READING. AND SOMEONE 13 BROUGHT ME A BOOK FROM THE LIBRARY ENTITLED, NEW RACIAL 14 FRONTIERS: SAN FRANCISCO'S BLACK COMMUNITY FROM 1900 TO 15 1940, WHICH IS THE DISSERTATION, THE DOCTORIAL 16 DISSERTATION OF ONE ALBERT STEVEN BROUSSARD. 17 ONE THING THAT SHOOK ME ABOUT THE PRECEDING 18 CHAPTERS IN 1900 IS A BETRAYAL OF THE LEGACY OF A MAN 19 NAMED PETER BURNETT, BORN IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, REARED 20 IN MISSOURI, SERVED AS A SELF-TAUGHT LAWYER TO THE MORMONS 21 WHEN THEY WERE IN MISSOURI TRYING TO FLEE FROM 22 PERSECUTION. HE FOLLOWED THE MORMONS TO UTAH, BUT DIDN'T 23 SETTLE THERE. HE WENT ON UP TO THE OREGON TERRITORY AND 24 THERE HE ESTABLISHED THE FIRST TOWN CALLED, GERMAN TOWN. 25 HIS FIRST OFFICIAL ACT OF BUSINESS WAS NOT HOW LOG CABINS APRIL 26, 2012 50 1 SHOULD BE BUILT, NOT HOW ROADS SHOULD BE LAID OUT. HIS 2 FIRST OFFICIAL ACT OF BUSINESS WAS TO ESTABLISH AN 3 ORDINANCE NO BLACK FOLK WILL BE ALLOWED IN THIS TOWN. AND 4 IF THEY ARE CAUGHT HERE, THEY WOULD BE BEATEN EVERY SIX 5 MONTHS UNTIL THEY LEAVE TOWN. THAT MAN DIDN'T STOP HIS 6 MEANNESS. 7 HE MIGRATED TO CALIFORNIA IN 1849 WHEN GOLD WAS 8 STRUCK HERE. SETTLED UP THERE AT SACRAMENTO, GOT INVOLVED 9 IN POLITICS. AND WINDED HIS WAY UP TO BECOME THE FIRST 10 GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THAT MAN PETER 11 BURNETT WAS SO MEAN TO BLACK PEOPLE THAT HE ALSO WAS 12 WORKING TO GET ESTABLISHED IN 1850, THE FIRST AND 13 STRONGEST ANTI-FUGITIVE SLAVE LAW IN THE HISTORY OF THIS 14 COUNTRY. 15 AND BEFORE HE HAD TO LEAVE OFFICE IN 1851 IN 16 DISGRACE, HE WAS TRYING TO GET LEGISLATION ENACTED IN 17 SACRAMENTO THAT NO BLACK FOLKS WOULD BE PERMITTED TO 18 SETTLE IN CALIFORNIA AT ALL. 19 WHY DID I CITE ALL THIS HISTORY? 20 LIKE I HAD THIS STROKE IN PART BECAUSE STROKES 21 WERE IN THE DNA OF MY FAMILY. I THINK I DID PRETTY GOOD 22 TO MAKE IT TO 69 WITHOUT IT HITTING ME. 23 BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT? THOUGH 24 MY HEAD LIKE YOU, MR. CHANCELLOR, WAS TELLING MY BODY TO 25 DO THE RIGHT THING. BUT BECAUSE THOSE NEUROLOGICAL APRIL 26, 2012 51 1 FREEWAYS WERE CLOGGED, THE EXTREMITIES OF MY BODY WOULD 2 NOT DO WHAT THE HEAD SAID OUGHT TO BE DONE. 3 MR. CHANCELLOR, YOU HAVE A GREAT HEAD. YOU DID 4 AN OUTSTANDING JOB. BUT IF CANDOR IS REALIZED AND UTTERED 5 AND TRUTH IS SPOKEN TO POWER THIS EVENING, WE MUST SAY 6 THAT THE EXTREMITIES OF THIS STATE, THE EXTREMITIES OF SAN 7 FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE EXTREMITIES OF EVEN 8 CITY COLLEGE, NEEDS THERAPEUTIC EXERCISE TO SEND A MESSAGE 9 BACK TO THE BRAIN THAT YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK OVER TO DO 10 UNTIL ALL MEANS ALL. IT'S A SIN AND A SHAME FOR US TO BE 11 TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY WHEN WE KNOW AS WELL AS THE LIGHT 12 IS ON IN THIS ROOM, THE DIVERSITY IN THIS CITY HAS NOT 13 MEANT BLACK FOLKS AS IT OUGHT TO. 14 I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY FEEL GUILTY. I 15 AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY FEEL SAD. I AM JUST SAYING 16 TO YOU AS THAT RUGGED PROPHET FROM NAZARETH SAID, HE SHALL 17 KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE. 18 THE TRUTH IS AS LONG AS ONLY 30 PERCENT OF THE 19 BLACK STUDENTS IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO 20 FINISH HIGH SCHOOL, IT HASN'T GOTTEN OUT TO THE 21 EXTREMITIES YET. AS LONG AS WE HAVE IN THIS CITY NOT 22 EQUITY, PARITY, AND INCLUSIVITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE 23 HIRING, THE RETENTION, THE RECRUITMENT OF BLACK CHILDREN, 24 WE CANNOT SAY THAT THE TASK HAS BEEN DONE. WE STILL GOT 25 MILES TO GO, PROMISES TO KEEP. AS FROST SAID, BEFORE WE APRIL 26, 2012 52 1 FALL ASLEEP. 2 AND I AM STILL IN THIS TOWN AS NAACP PRESIDENT. 3 I AM STILL IN THIS TOWN AS PASTOR OF THIRD BAPTIST. I AM 4 STILL IN THIS TOWN AS A PROPHETIC IRRITANT TO SAY IF A 5 TASK IS ONCE BEGUN, NEVER LEAVE IT UNTIL IT'S DONE. BE 6 THE LABOR, GREAT OR SMALL, DO IT WELL OR NOT AT ALL. 7 LET US DO IT WELL. LET US DO IT WELL AS I 8 ALWAYS SAY UNTIL THE DAY WILL COME ALL OVER THIS CITY, 9 THIS STATE, THIS NATION, AND THE WORLD, PEOPLE WILL BE 10 ABLE TO SAY I AM BLACK AND I AM PROUD. I AM BROWN AND I 11 AM SOUND. I AM YELLOW AND I AM MELLOW. I AM RED, BUT I 12 AIN'T DEAD. I'M WHITE AND I'M ALL RIGHT. I'M GAY, AND I 13 AM GOTTEN IT. AND I AM STRAIGHT, BUT I AM SENSIBLE. THAT 14 IS THE DESTINY. THAT IS WHAT CITY COLLEGE MUST CONTINUE 15 TO BE ABOUT OR ELSE THE HEAD WILL NOT REACH OUT TO THE 16 EXTREMITIES WITH A MESSAGES THAT OUGHT TO BE THERE THAT WE 17 MIGHT BE ONE LOVING ACADEMIC INSTITUTION. THANK YOU VERY 18 MUCH FOR INDULGING ME. 19 (PAUSE IN PROCEEDINGS FOR APPLAUSE.) 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: PRESIDENT RIZZO, CAN I SAY 21 SOMETHING. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE MARKS. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELCOME BACK, DR. BROWN. 24 I'VE NEVER TOLD YOU WHO VISITED MY FATHER WHEN 25 HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. IT WAS YOU ALONE, AMONG THE APRIL 26, 2012 53 1 ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHO CAME TO HIS BEDSIDE AND WHO WISHED 2 HIM WELL. AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT FOR 12 YEARS. 3 AND -- 12 YEARS I THINK. 1978 HE DIED. 1998 HE DIED. 4 AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN GRATEFUL FOR THAT. THAT VISIT TO MY 5 FATHER'S BEDSIDE, SO THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE 7 ON A RESOLUTION NOW. 8 TRUSTEE FANG. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 11 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 12 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 19 OKAY, THE CHANCELLOR MAY NOW RETIRE. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 21 (PAUSE IN PROCEEDINGS FOR APPLAUSE.) 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYONE 23 WENT. DO YOU WANT US HERE OR WHERE DO YOU WANT US? 24 RIGHT HERE (INDICATING). 25 (PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN.) APRIL 26, 2012 54 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE 2 MINUTE RECESS. 3 (RECESS TAKEN.) 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. 5 COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- WE HAVE A 6 BIG AGENDA AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WAITING FOR VARIOUS THINGS, 7 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE RESOLUTION S1 OUT OF ORDER. IT 8 SHOULD BE A QUICK ITEM. 9 COUNSEL. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM S1 IS ENTITLED, "APPROVAL 11 OF LETTER OF INTENT TO PARTNER WITH EMERALD CITIES FOR 12 ENERGY RETROFIT WORK AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO AND 13 THE CREATION OF LOCAL JOBS." 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 SO ARE THE PEOPLE FOR EMERALD CITIES IN THE 16 ROOM? 17 YOU ARE ALL IN THE ROOM, OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. CHAIR, I MOVE S1. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YEAH, I'M SORRY. 20 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 22 BY VICE PRESIDENT GRIER. 23 SO I DON'T SEE PETER GOLDSTEIN IN THE ROOM. I 24 GUESS I WILL JUST INTRODUCE THIS. 25 CAN SOMEONE TELL THE PEOPLE IN THE HALL TO KIND APRIL 26, 2012 55 1 OF QUIET DOWN. THE PEOPLE IN THE HALL -- OR MAYBE SHUT 2 THE DOORS. THANK YOU. 3 SO WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS, IT CAME BEFORE THE 4 FACILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE IS A 5 PROPOSAL FOR A CONSORTIUM CALLED EMERALD CITIES TO DO 6 ENERGY RETROFIT WORK AT CITY COLLEGE ON SOME OF OUR 7 BUILDINGS. 8 AS YOU MAY KNOW, TRUSTEES, WE HAVE DONE AN 9 ENERGY AUDIT SOME YEARS AGO, BUT NEVER HAD THE FUNDING TO 10 IMPLEMENT THE ENERGY CONSERVATION MEASURES. THIS IS A 11 FUNDING MECHANISM KIND OF A PRIVATE, PUBLIC/PRIVATE 12 PARTNERSHIPS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ENERGY RETROFIT WORK AT 13 CITY COLLEGE AT NO COST TO CITY COLLEGE. 14 AND THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT THE ENERGY SAVINGS, 15 PART OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS, WOULD GO BACK TO THE 16 INVESTORS. PART OF IT WE WOULD KEEP, BUT AT THE END OF SO 17 MANY YEARS OF PAYING BACK THE INVESTORS, CITY COLLEGE GETS 18 ALL OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS. 19 SO, VICE CHANCELLOR. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT WAS VERY WELL SAID. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD ADD 23 ANYTHING TO IT. IT'S A WAY TO FINANCE IMPORTANT PROJECTS 24 THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FRONT THE MONEY FOR. 25 AND THEY SAVE ENERGY, AND SO THEY SAVE THE COLLEGE MONEY APRIL 26, 2012 56 1 IN TERMS OF WHAT WE PAY FOR ENERGY WHICH BECOMES PART OF 2 THE WAY TO REPAY THE LOAN. AND THEN IN THE LONG RUN, THE 3 COLLEGE JUST SAVES ENERGY AND SAVES MONEY AFTER WE'VE 4 FINISHED PAYING FOR IT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, VICE CHANCELLOR. 6 I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP OUR REPRESENTATIVES 7 FROM EMERALD CITIES AND THE BUILDING AND TRADE COUNCIL WHO 8 IS PARTNERING WITH EMERALD CITIES. AND THEY ARE ALSO 9 PARTNERING WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. 10 AND PERHAPS YOU COULD JUST INTRODUCE THE CONCEPT 11 AND YOURSELF. 12 MS. JAMDAR: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE RIZZO. 13 MY NAME IS AVNI JAMDAR. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF 14 EMERALD CITIES SAN FRANCISCO. WE ARE A COLLABORATIVE OF 15 COMMUNITY, LABOR, BUSINESS, GOVERNMENT AND WORKFORCE 16 PARTNERS. AND WE WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE JOBS IN THE 17 ENERGY EFFICIENCY RETROFIT SECTOR. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 18 THAT THE SECTOR GOES HIGH ROAD UNION. SO WE HAVE VERY 19 CLOSE LABOR ALLIES, BOTH AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, WE ARE A 20 NATIONALLY HEADQUARTERED NONPROFIT, AND WE HAVE DONE CITY 21 CHAPTERS. 22 AND IN SAN FRANCISCO OUR MANDATE IS TO RETROFIT 23 LARGE SCALE BUILDINGS. AS WE DO THOSE PROJECTS, AS WE 24 STRIKE THOSE DEALS, WE AS IN MOST CITIES BRING RESOURCES, 25 FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO THE TABLE. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO APRIL 26, 2012 57 1 MAKE SURE THAT WE CLOSELY ALLY WITH THE TRADES, WITH THE 2 CONSTRUCTION TRADES, AS WELL AS WITH OUR COMMUNITIES. AND 3 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JOBS THAT WE RECREATE, 4 CREATE PATHWAYS OR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DISADVANTAGED 5 SAN FRANCISCO RESIDENTS. 6 SO WITH HAVE JUST LAUNCHED OUR PILOT. WE ARE 7 WORKING WITH MISSION HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AN 8 AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER, TO RETROFIT FOUR OF THEIR 9 BUILDINGS. 10 AND WE HAVE CREATED A VEHICLE CALLED, "THE 11 COMMUNITY WORKFORCE AGREEMENT," WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A 12 PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT THAT HAS STRONG COMMUNITY BENEFITS 13 WRITTEN INTO IT. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT SAME 14 VEHICLE IN WORKING WITH CITY COLLEGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 15 HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE GOALS KIND OF WRITTEN IN OUR 16 AGREEMENT. 17 SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO EXPLORING THIS 18 COLLABORATION AND HOPE FOR YOUR SUPPORT TONIGHT. 19 AND I'D REQUEST CO-CHAIR OF EMERALD CITIES SAN 20 FRANCISCO MIKE THERIAULT AND SECRETARY OF TREASURER OF THE 21 CONSTRUCTION TRADES TO SAY SOMETHING. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 23 MR. THERIAULT: THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT TO ADD 24 TO THAT. THE COMMUNITY WORKFORCE AGREEMENT -- YOU ARE 25 FAMILIAR WITH THE PLA BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED WITH ONE HERE AT APRIL 26, 2012 58 1 THE COLLEGE FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. BUT THE COMMUNITY 2 WORKFORCE AGREEMENT DOES ADD A WORKFORCE ACCESS COMPONENT. 3 IN THE CASE OF MISSION HOUSING, WE STRUCTURED 4 ACCESS TO APPRENTICESHIP FOR SAN FRANCISCO RESIDENTS AND 5 PARTICULARLY FROM CERTAIN PARTS OF SAN FRANCISCO AND 6 COMMUNITIES WITHIN SAN FRANCISCO. AND THOSE TERMS WOULD 7 BE NEGOTIATED OUT EXACTLY BETWEEN THE COLLEGE AND US. SO 8 THEY COULD VARY SOMEWHAT FROM WHAT MISSION HOUSING CAME TO 9 WITH US, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WORKOUT 10 TOGETHER. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE 11 HOPE WE GET IT. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 MS. JAMDAR: WE HAVE ONE MORE OF OUR CO-CHAIRS. 14 JOSH ARCY, FROM BRIGHTLINE DEFENSE WOULD LIKE TO 15 SAY A FEW WORDS. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 MR. ARCY: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. JOSHUA ARCY, 18 WITH BRIGHTLINE. I'VE GOT A SIX MONTHS OLD BABY AT HOME, 19 SO I HAD A JOY OF WATCHING A LOT OF PROCEEDINGS -- 20 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: (INAUDIBLE) OVER HERE. 21 MR. ARCY: OH, MY GODMOTHER, MOTHER JACKSON, 22 GOOD TO SEE YOU AND THE REALLY GREAT CEREMONY FOR THE 23 CHANCELLOR. 24 AND I THINK WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO IN OUR 25 DISCUSSION HERE IS REALLY EXCITING TOO BECAUSE YOU HAVE APRIL 26, 2012 59 1 SUCH A ROBUST BODY OF WORK HERE AT CITY COLLEGE WITH THE 2 WAY THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO LEVERAGE THE EDUCATIONAL AGENDA 3 TO DO A LOT OF THINGS. THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT TRUSTEES 4 RIZZO AND NGO DID AROUND THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY. REALLY 5 TAPPING THE NEW -- YOU SET A DIRECTION TO FIND NEW 6 RESOURCES TO DO THIS WORK, TO DO ENERGY EFFICIENCY 7 RETROFIT. YOU'VE GOT I THINK THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT 8 LOCAL HIRING POLICIES THAT I THINK TOGETHER ARE A REALLY 9 ROBUST WAY TO TARGET OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS, FOR LOCAL 10 COMMUNITIES. 11 THE ROLE THAT ORGANIZATION BRIGHTLINE PERFORMED 12 IN THE -- AND PROPOSES TO PERFORM THIS PARTNERSHIP WOULD 13 BE TO HELP TO DELIVER ON THE GOALS THAT ARE ALREADY IN 14 PLACE. THE PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT WHICH DELIVERS THE 15 BEST QUALIFIED UNION WORKFORCE TO DO THIS WORK AS YOU HAVE 16 IN THE PAST, AND ALSO COMMUNITY WORKFORCE TO DIG KEEP INTO 17 ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, FORMERLY 18 INCARCERATED WORKERS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THE WORKFORCE 19 DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM AND REALLY TO DELIVER TARGET 20 OPPORTUNITIES. 21 YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN THIS 22 PARTNERSHIP. WE WORK WITH THE NATIONAL NETWORK OF FOLKS. 23 WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE DR. ERIC MENDEZ FROM 24 THE EAST COAST IS VISITING WITH US AND AN EXPERT IN THE 25 GREEN JOBS FIELD, AND I SAW HIM COME IN HERE A MOMENT AGO. APRIL 26, 2012 60 1 BUT THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO. 2 WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH THE BOARD OF 3 TRUSTEES TO FIND THE RESOURCES TO DO THIS WORK AT NO COST 4 TO CITY COLLEGE, TO HELP TO CRAFT THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE 5 GUIDANCE OF THE BOARD AND THE REALLY RICH POLICY THAT HAS 6 BEEN MADE TO THIS POINT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY 7 INTERESTING IDEAS WE CAN DO TOGETHER, AND IT SHOULD BE 8 REAL EXCITING. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 10 YES, TRUSTEE BERG. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A 12 COMMENT ABOUT HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WHEN I 13 WAS AT THE LAST BOARD OF GOVERNORS MEETING IN SACRAMENTO, 14 FIVE COMMUNITY COLLEGES -- 15 MS. THOMAS: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: I DON'T KNOW IF -- I DON'T KNOW. 17 I GUESS IT'S JUST NOT ON. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IT'S ON. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: IT'S ON. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YOU NEED TO MOVE CLOSER. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. THANK YOU. 22 FIVE COMMUNITY COLLEGES PRESENTED THEIR GREEN 23 ATMOSPHERE AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. AND THEY HAVE, I 24 UNDERSTAND, GOTTEN -- EACH OF THEM HAS NOW GOTTEN A MEDAL 25 FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND I AM REALLY HAPPY THAT CITY APRIL 26, 2012 61 1 COLLEGE IS NOW JOINING THEM. IT'S VERY EXCITING. THANK 2 YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 I JUST HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THERE IS A CAR 5 THAT IS IN THE PARKING LOT THAT IS BLOCKING ANOTHER CAR. 6 THE LICENSE PLATE IS 5FQJ865. THAT'S 5FQJ865. IT DOESN'T 7 SAY WHAT KIND OF A CAR IT IS. BUT IF THAT'S YOUR CAR, 8 MAYBE YOU COULD MOVE IT TO LET SOMEBODY OUT. THANK YOU. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, PLEASE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW 12 EXCITED I AM TO BE PARTNERED -- OR THE COLLEGE TO PARTNER 13 WITH YOU ON THIS ENDEAVOR. IT JUST REMINDS ME OF THE DAYS 14 WHEN WE DID THE PLA WITH THE BUILDING TRADE COUNCIL. AND 15 YOU HAVE ALL THE KEY WORDS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 16 COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, LOWERING 17 THE ENERGY USAGE AND ALSO THE IDEA OF COMMUNITY WORKFORCE 18 AGREEMENT. 19 ALL OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE VERY 20 FAMILIAR WITH, BUT COMING TOGETHER WITH EMERALD CITIES IS 21 A VERY EXCITING ENDEAVOR AND CONSISTENT WITH WHERE WE WANT 22 TO GO AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AT CITY COLLEGE. SO I 23 WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO APRIL 26, 2012 62 1 THANK YOU GUYS FOR SEEING CITY COLLEGE AS A POTENTIAL 2 PARTNER AND THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US. 3 YOU KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS TALK ABOUT JOBS, BUT YOU 4 KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S STRATEGIC, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. THIS 5 IS A VERY STRATEGIC WAY TO GET SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET 6 DONE TO SAVE COST AND BE A GREEN CITY AND THEN IT CONNECTS 7 PEOPLE WITH OPPORTUNITY TO WORK. AND I THINK YOU KNOW WE 8 NEED MORE OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 9 AND I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, FOR 10 COMING TOGETHER AND BRINGING THIS TO CITY COLLEGE. AND WE 11 LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS ALL. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: I AM CONFUSED. DOES THIS 14 RESOLUTION REQUIRE REVIEW BY THE SHARED GOVERNANCE SYSTEM 15 FOR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CHANCELLOR? 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: OR DOES IT NOT REQUIRE A REVIEW 18 BY THE SHARED GOVERNANCE SYSTEM? 19 IT HAS NOT BEEN CHECKED OFF HERE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, IT'S NOT CHECKED OFF. 21 IT'S BLANK. 22 I BELIEVE IT DOES NOT REQUIRE SHARED GOVERNANCE 23 REVIEW, BUT IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION? 24 TRUSTEE NGO: COUNSEL, COULD. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DR. TETI, DO YOU KNOW THE APRIL 26, 2012 63 1 ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION? 2 MR. TETI: IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FACILITIES. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S A FACILITIES ISSUE. 4 COUNSEL DICKEY: THIS ISN'T A SHARED GOVERNANCE 5 ISSUE, SO IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SHARED 7 GOVERNANCE REVIEW. SO THAT SHOULD BE CHECKED OFF ON THE 8 RESOLUTION. 9 OKAY, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO WE WILL 10 BE -- THERE WILL BE A CWA NEGOTIATED WHICH WILL HAVE ALL 11 THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT AND LOCAL HIRING AND ALL THAT 12 GOOD STUFF. ARE THE COMMUNITIES PARTNERS INVOLVED IN THE 13 CREATION OF THAT CWA? 14 MS. JAMDAR: WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE THE CASE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 MS. JAMDAR: (INAUDIBLE) HAS BEEN ON THE TABLE. 17 YOU'VE SET A UNIQUE TABLE IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS, SO WE 18 WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR WORKFORCE PARTNERS AND 19 OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE PART OF THE CWA NEGOTIATIONS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE 21 GREAT. 22 MS. JAMDAR: FABULOUS. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE 23 BELIEVE IN AS WELL. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF US REALLY APPRECIATE APRIL 26, 2012 64 1 THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS 2 FOR US IN OUR TIME OF NEED BECAUSE IT COULD BE A DECADE 3 BEFORE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO THIS, SO IT'S VERY MUCH 4 APPRECIATED. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY FURTHER -- IS 6 THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? 7 OKAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 8 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 11 "AYE." 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES. 21 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEES, WE HAVE ANOTHER 24 QUICK ONE, F2, THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE TAKEN OUT OF 25 ORDER. AND THIS IS REGARDING THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS APRIL 26, 2012 65 1 APPOINTMENT OF A DEAN. 2 SO COULD I HAVE A MOTION? 3 TRUSTEE BERG: MOVE F2. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 IS THERE A SECOND? 6 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY VICE PRESIDENT 8 GRIER. 9 COUNSEL, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE TITLE. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: F2 IS ENTITLED, "ADMINISTRATIVE 11 EDUCATIONAL APPOINTMENT INTERIM DEAN SOUTHEAST CAMPUS." 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE PUBLIC -- IS 13 THERE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON F2? 14 MS. JACKSON: DID YOU GET MY CARD? 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I GOT YOUR CARD. 16 MS. JACKSON: THE YOUNG MAN, HE HAD TO LEAVE. 17 ESPANOLA JACKSON. 18 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 19 THIS HAS BEEN SOME TIME COMING. I WANT TO THANK YOU, 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD IN A TIMELY 21 MANNER. 22 AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I WILL BE BACK -- I 23 WON'T HAVE TO COME BACK NOW UNTIL A YEAR FROM NOW, BUT I 24 WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I WANT YOU TO KNOW OR FIND OUT OR 25 HAVE THE YOUNG MAN TO MAKE A PRESENTATION OF THE WORK THAT APRIL 26, 2012 66 1 HE HAS DONE SO FAR SINCE HE HAS BEEN THERE. THE 2 ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE HE HAS BEEN THERE 3 AND WHAT IS TO COME LATER ON. 4 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'VE 5 GOTTEN SUPPORT FROM ALL OF YOUR STAFF, FROM EVERYBODY 6 CONGRATULATING ME. YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF 7 YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN MAKING SURE THAT I FINALLY GET 8 A DEAN IN BAYVIEW HUNTERS POINT -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH -- 9 AT THE SOUTHEAST COLLEGE. BYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 OSCAR JAMES. 12 IS OSCAR JAMES STILL HERE? 13 MS. JACKSON: HE LEFT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE LEFT, OKAY. GREAT. GREAT. 15 OKAY, TRUSTEES, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FOR 16 THIS? 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. APRIL 26, 2012 67 1 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 3 OKAY, F2 IS APPROVED. 4 OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE FUN STUFF. 5 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: SPEECH. OUR DEAN, 6 AREN'T YOU GOING TO GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING? 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S JUST MOVE ALONG WITH THE 8 AGENDA. 9 MR. BYNUM: I WILL BE BACK TO MAKE SURE 10 (INAUDIBLE). 11 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: ALL RIGHT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO -- 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: S10. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S10. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND THEN S6. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP 17 S10 AND S6. 18 IS THERE A MOTION FOR S10? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO -- 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YEAH. 25 COUNSEL DICKEY: I'M SORRY. S10 IS ENTITLED, APRIL 26, 2012 68 1 "RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT REVISED MATRICULATION, ASSESSMENT 2 AND PLACEMENT POLICY." 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND IT WAS MOVED BY TRUSTEE 4 NGO; SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 5 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: FANG. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, FANG. 7 WHO SECONDED IT? 8 COUNSEL DICKEY: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON DID, OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: (INAUDIBLE) ADMINISTRATION. 11 LINDY, WILL YOU SPEAK TO S10 AND THEN WE CAN -- 12 VCSD MCKNIGHT: SURE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT I HAVE 14 BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ON S10 IN THE PAST FEW 15 DAYS AT CITY COLLEGE. I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH FACULTY 16 AND TRUSTEES AND VARIOUS PEOPLE. AND I AM NOT FINDING 17 OUTRIGHT OPPOSITION TO THIS. I THINK THERE ARE SOME 18 PEOPLE WITH SOME DIFFERENCES AS TO SOME ASPECTS OF IT, BUT 19 I AM NOT FINDING OPPOSITION. 20 SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. IF 21 WE COULD CARRY OVER THE -- AS WAS SAID SEVERAL TIMES, THE 22 LOVE FROM WHEN DR. GRIFFIN WAS HERE, THAT WOULD -- I WOULD 23 REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND JUST KIND OF SEE IF WE COULD WORK 24 COLLABORATIVELY ON THIS, SO THANK YOU. 25 IS THERE SOMEONE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION HERE AT APRIL 26, 2012 69 1 OUR MEETING. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: PETER, IS HERE. 3 VCSD MCKNIGHT: I'M HERE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU ANNOUNCE YOURSELF, 5 PLEASE. 6 VCSD MCKNIGHT: LINDY MCKNIGHT, VICE CHANCELLOR 7 OF STUDENT DEVELOPMENT. 8 SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE 9 PROCESS FOR THIS. THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS DEALING 10 WITH THE PLACEMENT TEST AND WITH SOME PROGRAMS, PILOT 11 PROGRAMS AROUND STUDENT'S ABILITY TO RETAKE -- ALL 12 STUDENT'S ABILITY TO RETAKE THE PLACEMENT TEST AND ALSO 13 STRENGTHENING THE MULTIPLE MEASURES ASPECT IN TITLE 5 THAT 14 ALL COUNSELORS USE. 15 THERE ARE FOUR DIFFERENT PROPOSALS THAT WERE 16 PRESENTED TO THE STUDENT PREP AND SUCCESS COMMITTEE. 17 THESE WERE A PROPOSAL FROM THE MATRICULATION THAT HAD A 18 LOT ABOUT THE TITLE 5 ALLOWING MULTIPLE MEASURES AND 19 EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF PLACEMENT TESTS AS ONE 20 MEASURE. 21 THERE WAS A PROPOSAL BY THE MATH DEPARTMENT WHO 22 HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE BRIDGE TO SUCCESS GRANT AND 23 MEETING REGULARLY WITH MATH TEACHERS FROM UNIFIED. AND 24 THEY HAVE COME UP WITH SOME MULTIPLE MEASURES THAT BOTH 25 SYSTEMS AGREE UPON THAT IF STUDENTS MEET TWO OUT OF THE APRIL 26, 2012 70 1 THREE, THEN THEY CAN ADVANCE ONE ADDITIONAL LEVEL IN MATH. 2 THERE WAS AN ENGLISH PROPOSAL TO DO WHAT'S 3 CALLED A -- I THINK THEY ARE CALLING IT A "PLUS ONE," 4 WHICH IS A STUDENT WOULD PLACE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL AND THEY 5 WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUMP UP ONE LEVEL. THEY DID NOT GET 6 TO THE POINT YET OF ESTABLISHING THE CRITERIA. 7 AND IT'S -- AND THEY ARE -- MY UNDERSTANDING IS 8 THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT IS ALSO NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE 9 CURRENT TIMELINE WHICH IS IMPLEMENTING IT FOR THIS 10 INCOMING CLASS OF STUDENTS. 11 AND THEN THERE WAS A PROPOSAL BY STUDENTS MAKING 12 A CHANGE THAT ENDORSED THE PRIOR THREE PROPOSALS. AND 13 ALSO WHEN WE CHANGED THE PLACEMENT TEST POLICY LAST YEAR, 14 WE -- THEY BELIEVE WE DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH AND STUDENT 15 PREP AND SUCCESS AGREED THAT STUDENTS, CURRENT STUDENTS 16 WHO ARE ENROLLED IN A CLASS OR HAVE TAKEN A CLASS HAVE TO 17 WAIT THREE MONTHS UNDER OUR CURRENT POLICY TO RETAKE IT. 18 AND IT'S THREE MONTHS FROM THE TIME THEY GET THEIR FINAL 19 GRADE. 20 SO THIS MAKES STUDENTS CAUGHT IN THE SYSTEM FOR 21 A LONG TIME. THE CURRENT PLACEMENT RETAKE POLICY APPLIED 22 ONLY TO NEW INCOMING STUDENTS. AND SO THIS WOULD MAKE IT 23 APPLY TO ALL STUDENTS. 24 SO THAT IS SORT OF WHERE WE STAND. THE 25 ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS THIS RESOLUTION AND SUPPORTS THE APRIL 26, 2012 71 1 TIMELINE. 2 AND AS PRESIDENT RIZZO SAID, I KNOW THERE'S A 3 LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS IN THE ROOM, NOT SO MUCH ON THE 4 CONTENT, AND NOT SO MUCH ON THE FACT THAT I THINK THAT 5 EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM BELIEVES THAT WE WANT STUDENTS TO 6 PROGRESS. EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS HEARD THE RESEARCH 7 THAT PERSISTENCE IS CONNECTED TO NOT GETTING CAUGHT IN A 8 LONG TIMELINE. 9 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I VERY MUCH RESPECT THE 10 FACULTIES EXPERTISE IN THEIR AREA THAT ANYTHING THAT GOES 11 BEFORE THIS BOARD, ANY RESOLUTION THAT HAS THE POWER AND 12 STRENGTH TO CHANGE LIVES HAS TO HAVE BUY-IN BY EVERYBODY. 13 I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE HOW WE 14 ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT, BUT I THINK THERE'S NO 15 DISAGREEMENT IN THIS ROOM THAT WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR 16 STUDENTS. 17 WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT THE BEST WAY 18 TO GET THERE, AND THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S A RICH 19 DISCUSSION. 20 BUT BOTTOM LINE, ADMINISTRATION AND I THINK YOU 21 ARE GOING TO HEAR TONIGHT FROM SOME PEOPLE FROM THE 22 MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED, WE'VE WORKED 23 TOGETHER ON THIS TIMELINE. WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE 24 DO NOT WANT TO HOLD 2000 PLUS STUDENTS BACK AND MAKE THEM 25 WAIT ANOTHER YEAR. APRIL 26, 2012 72 1 I BELIEVE THAT COUNSELORS CAN USE MULTIPLE 2 MEASURES IN A STRONGER AND MORE EFFECTIVE WAY IF THEY ARE 3 COLLABORATING WITH THEIR ENGLISH FACULTY, GETTING 4 EXPERTISE OF THE ENGLISH FACULTY OF WHAT COUNSELORS SHOULD 5 REALLY LOOK FOR AND WHAT WILL BEST SERVE STUDENTS. WE DO 6 NOT WANT STUDENTS TO FAIL. 7 THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT 8 THIS POLICY NOW AND STILL WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH 9 CRITERIA AS WE GO ALONG THAT WILL ONLY STRENGTHEN THE 10 RESOLUTION. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 12 SO HOW SHOULD WE PROCEED? IS THERE DISCUSSION 13 ON THE BOARD? 14 TRUSTEE NGO: SURE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE SHOULD ACTUALLY -- I 17 SENSE THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO WHY DON'T -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC 19 COMMENT AND THEN -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WE JUST DO THAT FIRST AND THEN 21 CLOSE IT. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN LET'S DELIBERATE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. AND THEN -- 25 OKAY, SO I HAVE A NUMBER OF CARDS. LET'S SEE DO APRIL 26, 2012 73 1 I HAVE ANY -- I HAVE 11. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THERE MIGHT BE MORE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THERE MIGHT BE MORE. 4 ARE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO WOULD WANT TO 5 SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? 6 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: I DO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO PLEASE FILL OUT 8 CARDS. 9 TRUSTEES, I THINK THAT WE MIGHT, GIVEN THE 10 LATENESS OF THE EVENING AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF CARDS HERE 11 THAT WE MAY WANT TO GO TO ONE MINUTE PUBLIC COMMENT. 12 IS THAT -- HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT? 13 I DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AS LONG AS WE GIVE PEOPLE NOTICE 15 THAT THEY HAVE ONE MINUTE AS OPPOSED TO TWO. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 17 IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU TO DO ONE MINUTE? 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YES, THAT'S FINE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE WILL DO ONE MINUTE 20 PUBLIC COMMENTS ON S10. THANK YOU. 21 OKAY, SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE JUAN SEGUDO. 22 MR. SEGUDO: I CAN GO. AND START. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE. 24 MR. SEGUDO: HELLO. MY NAME IS JUAN SEGUDO. I 25 AM HERE TO REPRESENT SMAC AND HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS WHO APRIL 26, 2012 74 1 HAVE SIGNED OUR PETITION. 2 PRETTY MUCH WE ARE HERE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 3 NO ONE IS DISPUTING THAT CHANGE SHOULD HAPPEN AT CITY 4 COLLEGE. I FEEL THAT THE START OF THE CHANGE SHOULD 5 HAPPEN NOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT FAIL THOUSANDS OF 6 STUDENTS IF WE CONTINUE THIS. IF WE PROLONG THIS TO A 7 MUCH LATER DATE. 8 I MEAN THE MATH, THE ENGLISH, ADMINISTRATION, 9 AND CHANCELLOR AGREE THAT CHANGE SHOULD HAPPEN. THE ONLY 10 THING WE ARE ARGUING IS WHEN? 11 AND I THINK THE TIME SHOULD BE NOW BECAUSE, LIKE 12 I SAID, WE CAN'T FAIL ANYMORE STUDENTS, GET THEM STUCK IN 13 A SEQUENCE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THOUSANDS OF 14 STUDENTS AT CITY COLLEGE AND PREVENTING THEM TO ACHIEVE A 15 HIGHER EDUCATION, WHETHER IT BE AT A STATE OR UC. SO 16 THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. 17 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 18 MR. SEGUDO: AND THE CHANGE SHOULD HAPPEN NOW. 19 IF YOU GUYS WANT TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING, IT SHOULD HAPPEN 20 NOW, NOT IN TWO, THREE YEARS. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 22 PECOLIA MANIGO. 23 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: SHE'S ALL THE WAY IN 24 THE BACK. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WE WILL PUT THE NEXT APRIL 26, 2012 75 1 PERSON THEN, JEFF LISS. 2 MR. LISS: I AM JEFF LISS WITH THE ENGLISH 3 DEPARTMENT, AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THOSE. I JUST WANT 4 TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES THAT 5 HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED IN A PRETTY PROMINENT ARTICLE BY A 6 GUY NAMED ED JONES. 7 AND HE'S GOT FIVE BEST PRACTICES FOR DIRECTED TO 8 SELF-PLACEMENT WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE AGREEING TO GO FORWARD 9 WITH. BUT IF WE LOOK AT THESE FIVE BULLET POINTS, WE CAN 10 SEE THE REASONS WHY WE DO NEED MORE TIME. 11 THE FIRST ONE IS THAT STUDENTS SHOULD EVALUATE 12 THEIR OWN ABILITIES IN RELATION TO CRITERIA PROVIDED BY 13 THE SCHOOL. 14 THE SECOND IS THAT THEY SHOULD RECEIVE 15 INFORMATION THAT CONTEXTUALIZES THEIR SELF-ASSESSMENT IN 16 RELATION TO WRITING PROGRAMS, WRITING PROGRAM 17 REQUIREMENTS. 18 THE THIRD IS THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PERFORM 19 ACTUAL READING AND WRITING TASKS FROM THE FIRST YEAR 20 WRITING CURRICULUM AND REFLECT ON THEIR PERFORMANCE. 21 THE FOURTH IS THAT THEY SHOULD ENTER INTO A 22 DIALOGUE WITH THOSE KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT FIRST YEAR WRITING 23 RETIREMENTS. 24 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 25 MR. LISS: THE FIFTH ONE IS THAT THEY ARE APRIL 26, 2012 76 1 GRANTED AUTONOMY IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 MR. LISS: WE GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR NO. 5. 4 WE ARE SPEAKING FOR 1-4. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 PECOLIA. 7 MS. MANIGO: GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PECOLIA 8 MANIGO. I AM SORRY I COULDN'T GET HERE ON TIME. I WAS 9 TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE AUDIENCE. 10 SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANT TO 11 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT ON 12 THIS ISSUE. AND FIRST AND FOREMOST THIS IS IMPORTANT, AN 13 IMPORTANT FOR US ALL TO BE HERE, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO 14 LOSE TOO MUCH FOCUS, RIGHT. 15 THE REASON WE ARE HERE IS BECAUSE THERE'S AN 16 EFFORT IN SAN FRANCISCO TO BRING ABOUT EQUITY. THERE'S AN 17 EFFORT IN SAN FRANCISCO TO ACKNOWLEDGE DECADES OF SYSTEMIC 18 RACISM THAT HAS RESULTED IN OUTCOMES WHERE BLACK STUDENTS 19 ARE NOT LEAVING OUT OF CITY COLLEGE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY 20 TO ADVANCE IN THE 21ST CENTURY ECONOMY. AND I AM BOLD 21 ENOUGH TO SAY IT BECAUSE THE REALITY HAS FOR DECADES, SOME 22 OF YOU IN THIS ROOM AND SOME OF THE DECISION MAKERS, 23 HAVEN'T HAD THE CAPACITY OR THE ABILITY TO SAY IT, RIGHT. 24 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT JUSTICE IN SAN FRANCISCO, 25 THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL -- APRIL 26, 2012 77 1 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 2 MS. MANIGO: -- REALITY THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS 3 AND THE PLACEMENT TEST BEING THE OPTIONAL FOR STUDENTS IS 4 THE BEGINNING OF THAT SYSTEMIC CHANGE. DON'T BACK AWAY 5 FROM JUSTICE BECAUSE IT'S HARD. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 SANDRA NAUGHTON. 8 MS. NAUGHTON: THANK YOU, TRUSTEES. MY NAME IS 9 SANDRA NAUGHTON. AND I WORK FOR THE CITY'S DEPARTMENT OF 10 CHILDREN YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES. 11 AND TONIGHT I AM HERE REPRESENTING MAYOR EDWIN 12 LEE'S OFFICE AND THE BRIDGE TO SUCCESS EXECUTIVE 13 COMMITTEE. 14 BRIDGE TO SUCCESS IS AN EFFORT TO DOUBLE THE 15 NUMBERS IN AFRICAN AMERICAN AND LATINO YOUTH WHO ARE 16 COMPLETING THEIR POST-SECONDARY GOALS. IT'S A PARTNERSHIP 17 THAT STARTED OVER TWO YEARS AGO BETWEEN CITY COLLEGE, THE 18 SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, 19 AND INVOLVES SAN FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY PHILANTHROPY 20 AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS. 21 THE BRIDGE TO SUCCESS HAS HELPED FOSTER 22 CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE MATH AND ENGLISH FACULTY, BOTH 23 AT CITY COLLEGE AND AT SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED, WITH 24 RESEARCHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WHICH 25 HAVE INFORMED THE RESOLUTION THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING APRIL 26, 2012 78 1 TONIGHT. 2 AS WELL, THERE'S BEEN DATA ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN 3 CONNECTED USING ACTUAL SFUSD STUDENTS HIGH SCHOOL 4 INDICATORS TO PREDICT HOW THEY'D DO AT CITY COLLEGE IN 5 TERMS OF PLACEMENT. 6 TONIGHT I REPRESENT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, 7 WHICH AGAIN, INCLUDES THE CHANCELLOR, THE SUPERINTENDENT 8 OF THE SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT CARLOS 9 GARCIA, MAYOR EDWIN LEE AND HIS OFFICE, AND OTHER 10 STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CITY TO ENDORSE THE RESOLUTIONS AND TO 11 ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT -- 12 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 13 MS. NAUGHTON: -- ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THE 14 TIMELINE. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ANYMORE STUDENTS. 15 THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 MAUREEN CAREW. 18 MS. CAREW: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. MY NAME IS 19 MAUREEN CAREW. I WORK FOR THE SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED 20 SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND I AM HERE TO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT, 21 AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT WHO 22 COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. 23 I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THAT SANDRA JUST 24 TALKED ABOUT AND THE WORK ESPECIALLY OF THE ENGLISH AND 25 MATH DEPARTMENTS AT CITY COLLEGE. THEY HAVE WORKED APRIL 26, 2012 79 1 CLOSELY WITH OUR ENGLISH AND MATH DEPARTMENTS, BUT THEY'VE 2 REALLY DONE SOME HEAVY LIFTING HERE AND REALLY 3 ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THINGS NEED TO CHANGE. THE WORK IS 4 DIFFICULT. THE CONVERSATIONS ARE DIFFICULT, BUT THEY WERE 5 REALLY EXCITING TO BREAK THROUGH SOME BARRIERS AND 6 RECOGNIZE THAT STUDENTS NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 7 WHEN WE LOOK AT NATIONAL DATA, THE SHORTER A 8 STUDENTS TIME IS IN COLLEGE, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL THEY ARE. 9 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PLACEMENT TEST, 92 PERCENT OF OUR 10 STUDENTS ARE BEING PLACED IN REMEDIATION WHEN IT COMES TO 11 ENGLISH AND 74 PERCENT IN MATH. 12 IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE REALITY FOR STUDENTS, 13 WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SOME BOLD MOVES. AND WE NEED TO 14 MAKE THEM SOON. WE HAVE A THOUSAND -- 15 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 16 MS. CAREW: -- STUDENTS WHO COME HERE FROM CITY 17 COLLEGE FROM SAN FRANCISCO -- FROM SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED 18 EVERY YEAR -- SORRY. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. 20 MS. CAREW: AND A THOUSAND THAT COME AFTER THEY 21 GRADUATE. THESE STUDENTS ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE GOING 22 TO IMPACT. AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THEM BE OUR NEXT 23 LEADERS, SO WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE THIS CHANGE SOON. 24 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. APRIL 26, 2012 80 1 PETER STOPHERS. 2 MR. STOPHERS: THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THEN AFTER THAT KITTY 4 MORIWAKI. 5 MR. STOPHERS: SO I WANT TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING A 6 MEMBER FROM THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT MENTIONED AGAIN. I 7 THINK IT'S GREAT THAT STUDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE THE 8 OPPORTUNITY TO SELF-DETERMINE, USE THEIR OWN KNOWLEDGE OF 9 THEIR OWN ABILITIES TO MAKE A CHOICE FOR WHICH LEVEL THEY 10 ARE GOING INTO AND THAT'S NEW. 11 BUT I THINK IT IS NOT FAIR TO STUDENTS TO ASK 12 THEM TO DO THAT WITHOUT GIVING THEM REALLY CLEAR 13 INFORMATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COURSES SO THEY CAN MATCH 14 THEIR OWN SKILLS AND ABILITIES AGAINST THE REQUIREMENTS 15 AND EXPECTATIONS OF THE DIFFERENT COURSES. 16 BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU WANT TO GIVE STUDENTS THE 17 CHOICE TO MOVE UP, BUT WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING WHAT THEY 18 GETTING INTO, IT COULD BE A MISTAKE FOR SOME STUDENTS TO 19 DO SO, AND MAY THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN THEIR FIRST 20 SEMESTER STRUGGLING IN ENGLISH AND HAVING A BAD 21 EXPERIENCE. 22 SO I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT BEFORE THIS 23 IS IMPLEMENTED, WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER -- 24 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 25 MR. STOPHERS: -- TO HELP STUDENTS WITH THAT. APRIL 26, 2012 81 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 2 MS. MORIWAKI: HI. I'M KITTY MORIWAKI, FROM THE 3 MATRICULATION AND ASSESSMENT OFFICE. 4 I JUST WANT TO SAY I AM SO GLAD TO SEE THE 5 TITLE 5 CITATIONS IN THE FIRST TWO WHEREASES OF THE 6 PROPOSAL BECAUSE I WROTE THEM. THEY APPEARED IN ANOTHER 7 PROPOSAL WHICH GOT APPROVED. 8 AND WHAT THE FIRST ONE CERTAINLY DOES IS 9 REITERATE THAT A PLACE -- NO AREA IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE 10 SYSTEM CAN A STUDENT BE PLACED ON THE BASIS OF A TEST 11 SCORE ALONE. IT IS A MULTIPLE MEASURES PROCESS. THAT 12 MEANS THAT STUDENTS HAVE TO HAVE ROBUST ASSESSMENT OF MANY 13 INDICATORS IN ADDITION TO THE PLACEMENT TEST FOR AN 14 ENGLISH PLUS ONE PLACEMENT SYSTEM OR ANY SORT OF PLACEMENT 15 SYSTEM. 16 SO THE ISSUE ABOUT RUSHING IS THAT -- WHAT WE 17 THINK IS RUSHING -- IS THAT THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT NEEDS 18 TO PROVIDE THE MATERIALS, SAMPLE, WRITINGS, READINGS, ET 19 CETERA. WHO KNOWS IF THEY WANT TO GO WITH GPA AND STUFF 20 LIKE THAT THE WAY THE MATH DEPARTMENT IS, BUT THEY FEEL 21 VERY RESPONSIBLE IN ASSISTING STUDENTS MAKING THE RIGHT 22 CHOICE. IT IS A PROCESS THAT'S DICTATED -- 23 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 24 MS. MORIWAKI: -- BY LAW, AND THEY NEED THE TIME 25 TO DO IT RIGHT. THANK YOU. APRIL 26, 2012 82 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A -- 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'VE GOT SOME. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION, GO 4 AHEAD. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A 6 COUPLE OF DAYS AGO -- 7 MS. MORIWAKI: RIGHT. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- WHEN I ACTUALLY VISITED 9 WITH THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM 10 HAVING A LITTLE CONFUSION WITH THE MATRICULATION OFFICE 11 BECAUSE I HEAR ONE THING FROM THE ADMINISTRATOR AT THE 12 MATRICULATION OFFICE AND THEN I HEAR ANOTHER THING FROM 13 YOU. I HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATOR -- I HEAR FROM THE 14 ADMINISTRATOR OF THE MATRICULATION OFFICE THAT THIS CAN BE 15 DONE. 16 AND I GET ENGLISH, AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THE 17 TIMING ISSUES WITH ENGLISH LATER BECAUSE I ACTUALLY 18 UNDERSTAND THOSE ISSUES AND WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THOSE, SO 19 I AM GOING TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT LATER. 20 BUT WITH MATRICULATION, THERE'S A DIFFERENT 21 MESSAGE WHERE THE ADMINISTRATOR IS SAYING, WE CAN DO THIS, 22 AND WE TOTALLY CAN DO IT NOW. BUT THEN YOU ARE SAYING 23 THAT WE NEED THE TIME, AND SO I AM GETTING TWO DIFFERENT 24 MESSAGES, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN YOU 25 ARE GETTING TWO DIFFERENT MESSAGES. APRIL 26, 2012 83 1 MS. JENKINS: SO ACTUALLY, I THINK REALLY IT HAS 2 TO DO WITH STARTING WHERE WE HAVE COMMON GROUND SO THAT WE 3 CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS FIRST. THERE ARE GOING TO BE 4 SOME TECHNICAL ASPECTS THAT NEED TO BE PROGRAMMED. WE ARE 5 GOING TO NEED TO WORK OUT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND BUILD 6 THOSE THINGS IN TO OUR BANNER SYSTEM SO THAT WHEN STUDENTS 7 GO TO REGISTER, THOSE THINGS WILL BE IN PLACE. 8 THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE NEW 9 FOR US. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MATH DEPARTMENT, WE ARE GOING 10 TO NEED -- THEIR PROPOSAL CALLS FOR THINGS LIKE HAVING A 11 HIGH SCHOOL GPA, ATTENDANCE RECORDS, SCORES FROM THE CST 12 TEST. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE, AND 13 SO WE WILL NEED TO GET THOSE THINGS AS WE LOOK TO 14 IMPLEMENT THIS. 15 WITH REGARDS TO THE ENGLISH PROPOSAL, AGAIN, YOU 16 KNOW WE CAN START TO WORK ON SOME OF THESE THINGS SO THAT 17 WE CAN GET CLOSER TO IMPLEMENTING THEM. BUT AGAIN, THERE 18 DOES HAVE TO BE -- WE SHOULD ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. WE 19 WANT FACULTY, BOTH INSTRUCTIONAL FACULTY AND COUNSELING 20 FACULTY, TO BE ABLE TO ADVISE STUDENTS APPROPRIATELY WHEN 21 IT COMES TO BEING PLACED. 22 AND SO WHILE THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL ASPECTS 23 THAT WE CAN START WORKING ON, THERE ARE ALSO SOME PEOPLE 24 THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. 25 IN EITHER CASE, THE SOONER WE START WORKING ON APRIL 26, 2012 84 1 IT, THE SOONER WE WILL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT OBVIOUSLY. 2 AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. IT'S ABOUT THE 3 TIMELINE FOR GETTING THIS DONE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO -- 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE -- ARE WE GOING TO DO Q 6 AND A FOR THE REST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE WE CAN -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I ACTUALLY HAVE -- 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, I MEAN -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I WOULD 10 HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, SO -- 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN IF THEY'RE HERE -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THEY ARE HERE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN WE CAN BRING THEM BACK WHEN 14 THE BOARD DELIBERATES. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN I MIGHT FORGET, SO I 16 HAVE QUESTIONS NOW. I MEAN -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GO AHEAD, TRUSTEE JACKSON. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THIS HAS JUST BEEN THE BIGGEST 19 KIND OF THING BECAUSE IT'S MATRICULATION AND ENGLISH. 20 THAT'S THE KIND OF THE CONSTRUCTION, THE STRUCTURE OF THIS 21 PLACEMENT POLICY -- 22 MS. JENKINS: CAN -- 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, HOLD ON. HOLD ON. 24 SO ENGLISH HAS SAID THAT THEY NEED TIME. I 25 UNDERSTAND THAT, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS APRIL 26, 2012 85 1 WHERE WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. 2 BUT WITH THE MATRICULATION, YOU GAVE ME THE 3 ANSWER, YOU GAVE ME AN ANSWER, BUT I AM STILL LEFT, CAN 4 YOU GUYS DO 100 PERCENT BY FALL? CAN YOU GUYS DO 5 80 PERCENT OF IT BY FALL? 50? 40? 6 I AM JUST TRYING TO GET A BALLPARK OF CAN 7 MATRICULATION HAVE THIS DONE BY THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT 8 THIS CURRENT POLICY SAYS THAT IT NEEDS TO GET DONE. 9 MS. JENKINS: WELL, TODAY RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T 10 HAVE ALL THE PIECES TO GET IT DONE. SO WE WOULD NEED TO 11 GET -- YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET CST SCORES. WE 12 WOULD HAVE TO GET THE 2.7 GPA'S. WE WOULD HAVE TO STORE 13 THAT DATA SOMEWHERE, AND WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IT. SO 14 THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT. 15 AGAIN WITH ENGLISH, THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES 16 THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT AS WELL. IN TERMS OF STUDENTS 17 BEING ABLE TO RETEST, SURE WE COULD HAVE STUDENTS RETEST 18 AFTER A TWO-WEEK PERIOD, BUT I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO MOVE 19 TOWARDS IS ACTUALLY HAVING ALL OF THESE OPTIONS AVAILABLE 20 TO STUDENTS BY SOME DATE. AND I THINK THAT'S SORT OF 21 WHERE THE ISSUE IS. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND FOR YOUR OFFICE, WHAT IS 23 THAT DATE? 24 MS. JENKINS: WELL -- 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BECAUSE I MEAN WE GOT TO -- I APRIL 26, 2012 86 1 MEAN IT'S RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, SO I HAVE TO KIND OF 2 GET -- TO MAKE MY DECISIONS, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT 3 DATE THAT IS INDEPENDENTLY FOR YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK AS 4 AN ADMINISTRATOR WHAT THAT DATE IS? 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. WHO IS ANSWERING THE 6 QUESTIONS YOU OR HER? 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SHE'S IN CHARGE. 8 MS. JENKINS: I AM ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, I WASN'T SURE. 10 MS. JENKINS: SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN GET SOME 11 OF THE DATA THAT WE NEED, WE WOULD PHASE THIS IN. WE 12 WOULD START TO MAKE SOME CHANGES IN THE COMPUTER 13 PROGRAMMING, AND WE WOULD START WITH THAT FIRST. 14 SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WE TRY TO IMPLEMENT THE 15 MATH PILOT FIRST AND THEN WE WOULD WORK ON THE ENGLISH. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT WAS THAT TIME FRAME YOU 17 WERE TALKING ABOUT? 18 MS. JENKINS: WELL, IT'S HARD TO SAY BECAUSE WE 19 HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN THE RECORDS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 MS. JENKINS: SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE RECORDS 22 WILL BE DELIVERED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT AN ATTENDANCE RECORD 23 FROM UNIFIED LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A 2.7 GPA 24 LOOKS LIKE. WE WOULD NEED SOME COMPUTER PROGRAMMING TO BE 25 DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD REQUIRE I.T. TIME OR APRIL 26, 2012 87 1 NOT, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO 2 LOOK AT, THE ACTUAL STEPS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU MEAN COMPUTER PROGRAMMING 4 IN BANNER? 5 MS. JENKINS: YES. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? 7 MS. JENKINS: YES. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DID YOU EVER SAY THAT WE CAN 11 GET THIS DONE BY FALL TO ANYONE? 12 MS. JENKINS: WHAT I SAID IS THAT WE WOULD START 13 WORKING ON THIS OVER THE SUMMER. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, DID YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE CAN 15 IMPLEMENT THIS BY FALL OR NOT AT ANY POINT? 16 MS. JENKINS: NOT 100 PERCENT OF THIS, NO. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: NEVER? 18 MS. JENKINS: NO. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THE CHANCELLOR IS WRONG TO WANT 20 TO IMPLEMENT THIS IN THE FALL? HE OVERRODE YOUR 21 RECOMMENDATION? 22 MS. JENKINS: I AM NOT SURE WHAT COMMENT YOU ARE 23 REFERRING TO. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS 25 WHETHER OR NOT THE CHANCELLOR WOULD DO SOMETHING IN DIRECT APRIL 26, 2012 88 1 OPPOSITION TO WHAT YOU SAY CAN OR CANNOT BE DONE BY FALL. 2 DO YOU THINK HE WOULD DO THAT? 3 MS. JENKINS: I DON'T REALLY WANT TO 4 SPECULATE ON WHAT HE THINKS -- 5 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I AM JUST TRYING TO GET 6 SOME -- I BELIEVE THAT TRUSTEE JACKSON WAS GIVEN A 7 PREROGATIVE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THE BOARD CHAIR LET IT -- 8 OPENED THE DOOR, SO I AM WALKING THROUGH IT. 9 MS. JENKINS: ALL RIGHT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM GOING TO ASK YOU -- I DON'T 11 KNOW HOW IT CAN GO THROUGH TWO SHARED GOVERNANCE 12 COMMITTEES FOR RECOMMENDATION TO FALL WITH YOU SAYING, NO, 13 WE CAN'T DO IT BY FALL. 14 AND HOW THE CHANCELLOR CAN RECOMMEND THAT WE 15 IMPLEMENT THIS BY FALL WITHOUT YOU SAYING WE CAN DO THIS 16 BY FALL. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LINDY MCKNIGHT CAN SAY WE 17 CAN DO THIS BY FALL WITHOUT YOU SAYING, WE CAN DO THIS BY 18 FALL. 19 SO I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER YOU THINK WE CAN DO 20 THIS BY FALL OR IF YOU EVER SAID THAT TO ANYONE OR IF THE 21 CHANCELLOR AND LINDY MCKNIGHT AND PEOPLE IN THE SHARED 22 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES ARE BASICALLY ABUSING THEIR 23 DISCRETION AS ADMINISTRATORS. 24 MS. JENKINS: WELL, DURING THE PLACEMENT TESTING 25 WORKGROUP COMMITTEE, WE DID TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THIS. APRIL 26, 2012 89 1 AND I DID SAY THAT WE WOULD START TO WORK ON THIS, AND 2 THAT WE WOULD HAVE AS MUCH DONE AS POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, I 3 NEVER SAID THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET 100 PERCENT OF 4 THIS DONE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVEN'T -- WE STILL DON'T HAVE 5 ALL OF THE PIECES. WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE CHANGES GOING TO 6 BE TO THE RETAKE POLICY? 7 FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH 8 CONTINUING STUDENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PROGRAMMED. 9 CONTINUING STUDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN CLASSES 10 WILL BE RECEIVING FINAL GRADES. 11 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OCCURS BEFORE A STUDENT 12 REGISTERS FOR THE NEXT TERM IS THAT IT GOES THROUGH A 13 PREREQUISITE ENFORCEMENT IN THE REGISTRATION SYSTEM. IF A 14 STUDENT GETS AN A, B, OR C, THEN CLEARLY THEY ARE ELIGIBLE 15 FOR THE NEXT LEVEL. IF A STUDENT GETS AN D OR AN F, WE 16 WOULD NEED TO PROGRAM THAT SOMEHOW TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, 17 IS THE STUDENT ELIGIBLE FOR THE HIGHER LEVEL BASED ON THE 18 PLACEMENT TEST RESULTS? 19 DO WE LOOK AT THE SUBSTANDARD GRADE ON THEIR 20 TRANSCRIPT? 21 I MEAN THERE ARE A LOT OF SCENARIOS THAT WE NEED 22 TO PROGRAM AND WORK OUT SO THAT A STUDENT -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: IS IT -- 24 MS. JENKINS: -- IS ABLE TO -- 25 TRUSTEE NGO: -- A MATTER OF RESOURCES OR IS IT APRIL 26, 2012 90 1 A MATTER OF TIMING INHERENTLY? 2 MS. JENKINS: I THINK IT'S BOTH BECAUSE I THINK 3 WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT IS 4 ON THE STUDENT'S RECORD AND ON THE STUDENT'S REGISTRATION. 5 SO WE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY SCENARIO TO 6 MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE PROGRAMMED IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT 7 ALLOWS FOR REGISTRATION INTO THE NEXT COURSE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: SO -- 9 MS. JENKINS: WE'VE NEVER HAD -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM CONFUSED. SO ARE YOU SAYING 11 WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS IN THE FALL DESPITE THE 12 RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CHANCELLOR AND THE SHARED 13 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES? 14 YOU HAVE NO COMMENT ON THAT, RIGHT? 15 MS. JENKINS: NO, I AM NOT SAYING -- I AM NOT 16 SUGGESTING ONE TIMELINE OR ANOTHER, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED 17 TO -- 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THAT'S CLEAR THAT YOU ARE 19 NOT SUGGESTING ONE TIMELINE OR ANOTHER. I DON'T HEAR ONE 20 OR THE OTHER, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T SEE HOW A CHANCELLOR CAN 21 RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THIS AND NOT THINK -- THE CHANCELLOR 22 WE JUST LAUDED BY THE WAY, AND BASICALLY WOULD DO THIS AND 23 SAY WE CAN'T DO IT BY FALL, SO THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO, YOU KNOW, SO NOW I AM APRIL 26, 2012 91 1 TRYING TO SEPARATE ENGLISH AND MATRICULATION. SO NOW THAT 2 YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU GUYS TO BOTH KNOW THAT. SO RIGHT NOW 3 I AM STILL ON MATRICULATION. 4 SO WHAT MY THINKING IS, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT GREEN 5 LIGHT THIS. AND THEN IF YOU GUYS CAN'T DO IT, JUST COME 6 BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED MORE TIME. BUT TO DELAY IT, 7 AND THEN -- I MEAN MY MAIN THING IS WHY NOT MOVE FORWARD. 8 AND IF YOU GUYS COME UP AGAINST ROADBLOCKS, THEN KIND OF, 9 YOU KNOW, KEEP IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH US AND SAY 10 HEY, WE STILL NEED THIS. WE STILL NEED THIS. BUT LET'S 11 GIVE THE GREEN LIGHT TO AT LEAST MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. 12 YOU KNOW, AND I AM OPEN TO WHY THAT'S NOT THE 13 RIGHT WAY TO GO, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE CAN AT LEAST JUST 14 GREEN LIGHT IT, AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S -- YOU SAID IT 15 YOURSELF, WE NEED TO START. 16 MS. JENKINS: WE DO. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO START. 18 SO IF WE DELAY THE MATRICULATION PART, BECAUSE I GET 19 ENGLISH AND GUYS DON'T GET ALL UP IN ARMS, I AM GOING TO 20 TALK ABOUT YOU GUYS LATER. BUT FOR MATRICULATION WHICH IS 21 A KEY PIECE OF THIS, WHY NOT GREEN LIGHT THIS, HAVE YOU 22 GUYS START, AND IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN -- IF YOU GUYS COME 23 UP AGAINST ROADBLOCKS IN THE FALL, WE WILL SAY, HEY, WE 24 ARE HAVING SOME ISSUES GETTING THIS DONE. CAN WE EXTEND 25 THIS AND DO IT LIKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER THIS? APRIL 26, 2012 92 1 BUT WE'VE GOT TO START THOUGH. 2 MS. JENKINS: YES. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WE HAVE TO GREEN LIGHT IT, AND 4 WE HAVE TO START FOR THE MATRICULATION PROCESS. 5 MS. JENKINS: AND WE WOULD NEED TO START -- I 6 MEAN WE WOULD NEED TO START. IN ANY EVENT WE WOULD NEED 7 TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE, WHERE THE KINKS ARE, WE WOULD 8 NEED TO WORK SOME THINGS OUT. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO THAT'S PER -- THAT'S WHERE 10 I AM TRYING TO GET TO. SO FOR THE MATRICULATION SIDE OF 11 THIS POLICY, WE SHOULD PROBABLY GREEN LIGHT IT AND MOVE 12 FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE AND 13 JUST START THE PROCESS. THERE'S -- IF YOU DELAY IT, 14 THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE THE ROADBLOCKS THERE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WE SHOULD GET BACK TO 16 PUBLIC COMMENT. 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, I MEAN -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE STILL HAVE A -- 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, I MEAN WE ARE GOING TO 20 KEEP ON HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO TALK TO 21 THEM. THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, BUT -- 23 MS. MORIWAKI: CAN I CLARIFY WHAT I MEANT SINCE 24 YOU WERE RESPONDING TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, RIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. NO. THIS IS NOT A APRIL 26, 2012 93 1 CONVERSATION. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: FINE. 3 MS. MORIWAKI: I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. WE HAVE A NUMBER 5 OF CARDS. WE HAVE TO LET EVERYONE SPEAK. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: OKAY. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE TRUSTEES CAN DISCUSS THIS 8 AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. WE CAN BRING BACK 9 ADMINISTRATORS THAT WE WANT TO. WE CAN BRING BACK WHOEVER 10 WE WANT, BUT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THESE CARDS. SO THANK 11 YOU, BUT STICK AROUND. THANK YOU. 12 JODI NAAS. 13 MS. NAAS: I JUST WANTED TO STATE ON BEHALF OF 14 MYSELF AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, I DON'T FAVOR GREEN 15 LIGHTING ANY PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO SET STUDENTS UP FOR 16 FAILURE OR AT LEAST SOME STUDENTS. I KNOW THERE ARE 17 INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS WHO FEEL THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM 18 MULTIPLE MEASURES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE IDEA 19 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE MEASURES. 20 FURTHERMORE, THEY ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE NOW. 21 FURTHERMORE, MOST OF US SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THERE ARE 22 MULTIPLE MEASURES RIGHT NOW. SOMEONE ELSE CAN GET UP HERE 23 AND TALK ABOUT THAT. 24 IN ANY CASE, WE ALL SUPPORT THE IDEA OF BEING 25 ABLE TO RETAKE THE PLACEMENT TEST. IF THE STUDENT CAN APRIL 26, 2012 94 1 HANDLE THE MATERIAL AND THE CLASS AND DO THE WORK IN THE 2 CLASS, THE STUDENT CAN PASS. THE ONLY THING I AM 3 INTERESTED IN IS A QUALITY EDUCATION. A PIECE OF PAPER 4 MEANS NOTHING, UNLESS IT REPRESENTS WHAT A STUDENT CAN DO 5 AND WHAT A STUDENT KNOWS AND WHAT A STUDENT CAN PRACTICE 6 IN THE REAL WORLD. 7 THEREFORE, AND AS FAR AS I -- 8 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 9 MS. NAAS: -- KNOW, I AM THE EXPERT ON THAT AS A 10 TEACHER. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 12 MS. NAAS: THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 14 CHRISSY LEUMA. 15 DO YOU HAVE THAT -- LEUMA. 16 MS. LEUMA: HELLO. MY NAME IS CHRISSY. AND WE 17 ARE -- AND I AM PART OF SMAC, STUDENTS MAKING A CHANGE. 18 AND DEFINITELY I SUPPORT, ENDORSE EVERYTHING 19 THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS TALKING ABOUT. ONE, WE'D JUST SEEN 20 HOW INCREDIBLE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING. 21 I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT AND 22 ALSO THE MATH DEPARTMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN 23 THROUGH MANY MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DONE WITH THE 24 HEARSAY TELEPHONE CALLS, BUT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 25 THESE CHANGES. IMPLEMENT THEM. YOU KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THE APRIL 26, 2012 95 1 DATA. YOU'VE SEEN THE CRAZY STUFF THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. 2 YOU WANT TO CREATE THAT CHANGE, SO WHY WAIT 2013, YOU 3 SHOULD START NOW. 4 IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY AND GO ANOTHER ROUTE, 5 IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG PROCESS. AND I WANT TO ECHO A 6 LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE FOR THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE 7 IT'S GONNA EFFECT A LOT OF STUDENTS. AND IT'S GOING TO BE 8 A GREAT STUDENT SUCCESS FOR ALL THE STUDENTS. 9 SO AGAIN, I WANT TO COMMEND ALL THE GREAT EFFORT 10 THAT'S BEEN GOING, BUT WHY, WHY, WHY THE OPPOSITIONS? 11 LET'S GO FORWARD WITH IT. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: VERONICA GARCIA. 13 MS. GARCIA: HI. VERONICA GARCIA, STUDENTS 14 MAKING A CHANGE. 15 SO ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE ON IS 16 THERE HAVE BEEN THESE NOTIONS THAT STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, 17 WON'T SUCCEED OR STUDENTS ARE SETTING THEMSELVES UP FOR 18 FAILURE OR YOU KNOW SO WORTH. BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE. 19 THAT'S NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA FROM 20 CHABOT AND FROM THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE ACCELERATION 21 PROGRAM, IT SHOWS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE THAT STUDENTS ARE 22 CHALLENGED, THEY ARE ABLE TO SUCCEED AT A HIGHER RATE. 23 IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY 24 THAT -- I'M SORRY I'M TONGUE TIED -- THAT A PAPER DOESN'T 25 NECESSARILY DEFINE THE EDUCATION LEVEL OF A STUDENT, YOU APRIL 26, 2012 96 1 KNOW. 2 I HAVEN'T GOTTEN MY ASSOCIATES YET FROM CITY 3 COLLEGE. AND I THINK THAT MY LEVEL OF INTEGRITY, AND MY 4 KNOWLEDGE, AND MY COMMUNITY WORK, AND THE WAY THAT I 5 REPRESENT MY COMMUNITY, AND THE -- EXCUSE ME, I AM GETTING 6 STILL TONGUE TIED -- THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT I AM MAKING 7 ON MY COMMUNITY BY BEING ABLE TO SUCCEED, YOU KNOW IS A 8 POSITIVE -- 9 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 10 MS. GARCIA: -- IMPACT, YOU KNOW. AND I THINK 11 THAT THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING AND EMBRACING. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 MS. GARCIA: THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ELLIOT OSBORNE. 15 MR. OSBORNE: GO. ELLIOT OSBORNE, NEW STUDENT 16 COUNSELING DEPARTMENT. I HAVE BEEN AT THE COMMUNITY 17 COLLEGE WORK SINCE 1975. I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE LAST 18 15 YEARS. 19 WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A POLICY. AND IT 20 DOES CONCERN ME THAT WE HEAR WORDS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND 21 JUSTICE AS IF THIS IS SOME POLITICAL ARENA AND TEACHERS 22 ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO RETARD OR HOLD BACK STUDENTS 23 AND THAT LANGUAGE NEEDS TO DIE. 24 BUT ALSO AS BEING A COUNSELOR FOR THESE MANY 25 YEARS, I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN MULTIPLE MEASURES FOR A VERY APRIL 26, 2012 97 1 LONG TIME. THE ISSUE IS NOT MULTIPLE MEASURES. THE ISSUE 2 IS NOW A POLICY THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. AND THAT WHEN 3 YOU IMPLEMENT A POLICY, YOU WANT THE POLICY NOT TO BE -- 4 REMEMBER OBAMA CARE, THEY DID IT -- I WAS THE ONE THAT 5 ACTUALLY READ THOSE 2200 PAGES. AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS 6 IN THERE THAT NEEDED TO BE LOOKED AT BEFORE IT WAS VOTED. 7 THAT'S ALL WE ARE SAYING. 8 WE, AS PROFESSIONALS, WANT TO BE CAREFUL SO THAT 9 WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS. 10 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALISA ASBERZY. IS THAT RIGHT? 12 IS THAT CLOSE? 13 MS. ASBERZY: GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE 14 REPRESENTING SMAC AND COLEMAN ADVOCATES. I AM A FORMER 15 CITY COLLEGE STUDENT, A PROUD ALUMNI OF CITY COLLEGE. AND 16 I ACTUALLY SAW ONE OF MY TEACHERS HERE. 17 MULTIPLE MEASURES WORK, AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING 18 ABOUT THIS EVENING IS REDUCING A BARRIER TO SUCCESS THAT 19 PRIMARILY IMPACTS STUDENTS OF COLOR. AND WHEN WE HAVE 20 THOSE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN HELP MAKE 21 STUDENTS OF COLOR BE SUCCESSFUL IN WHAT IS NOW FOR SAN 22 FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT THE PRIMARY UNIVERSITY 23 COLLEGE THAT STUDENTS END UP AT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO 24 UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE TO TRUST THAT THE STUDENTS KNOW 25 WHERE THEY STAND. YOU HAVE TO TRUST THAT THE COUNSELORS APRIL 26, 2012 98 1 ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE STUDENTS TO HELP PLACE THEM 2 CORRECTLY. AND YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE TEACHERS 3 ARE PREPARED TO WORK WITH STUDENTS WHO ARE READY TO MEET A 4 CHALLENGE. 5 SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I PLACED IN 6 THE CLASSES MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED 7 COLLEGE TRANSFERABLE. I WAS LUCKY I HAD A COUNSELOR WHO 8 WORKED WITH ME. AND I HAD TEACHERS WHO WORKED -- 9 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 10 MS. ASBERZY: -- WITH ME SO THAT I WAS ABLE TO 11 GRADUATE SUCCESSFULLY. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 MS. ASBERZY: WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS THE 14 OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER STUDENTS LIKE ME WHO ARE FROM SAN 15 FRANCISCO TO HAVE THAT SAME CHANCE. THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 INGRID WYNN. 18 MS. WYNN: MY NAME IS INGRID WYNN. 19 AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT 20 THESE POLICIES, WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY. 21 IF WE ARE LOOKING AT CITY COLLEGE STUDENTS, WE ARE LOOKING 22 AT THE FACT THAT THEY CAME HERE BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO. 23 NOW IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE STUDENTS TO 24 COME IN, THEY KNOW THEIR POTENTIAL. THEY KNOW THEIR 25 LEVEL. AND IF THEY NEED HELP, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE APRIL 26, 2012 99 1 COUNSELORS AND TEACHERS TO HELP GUIDE YOU GUYS THERE, 2 RIGHT. SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH 3 THIS. 4 IF THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CHOICE FOR THEM TO 5 BE HERE, THEN HEY, WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY 6 CAME HERE ON THEIR OWN WILL, THEIR OWN ACCORD. AND WE 7 NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT. AND IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY TEST 8 HORRIBLY, BUT THEY DO WELL, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT 9 OWN INDIVIDUAL. SO WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT MOVING 10 FORWARD AND WE SHOULD PUSH FORWARD WITH THIS POLICY. 11 THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 LANCELOT KAO. 14 MS. SAGINOR: (INAUDIBLE.) 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WANT FOUR OF YOU TO -- 16 MS. SAGINOR: (INAUDIBLE.) 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU WANT TO DO 18 SEQUENTIALLY. THAT'S FINE. GO AHEAD. WHOEVER YOU WOULD 19 LIKE TO START. 20 JUST TELL ME THE FOUR NAMES BEFORE YOU DO THIS. 21 MS. SAGINOR: FRED TETI, VENETTE COOK, KAREN 22 SAGINOR AND THEN LANCE WOULD BE LAST. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. THE SECOND TWO 24 NAMES. 25 MR. TETI: VENETTE COOK -- APRIL 26, 2012 100 1 MS. SAGINOR: FRED, VENETTE, KAREN, LANCE KAO. 2 HE WAS JUST CALLED. HE WILL BE LAST OF THE FOUR OF US. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, GO AHEAD. 4 MR. TETI: READY, SIR. 5 MS. SAGINOR: GO. 6 MR. TETI: OKAY, GOOD EVENING. FRED TETI, FIRST 7 VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE. 8 I AM GOING TO LOVINGLY READ THE BEGINNING OF A 9 PREPARED STATEMENT. 10 "CALIFORNIA LAW SPECIFIES THAT COMMUNITY COLLEGE 11 GOVERNING BOARDS HAVE PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT 12 FACULTY, CLASSIFIED STAFF, AND STUDENTS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES 13 TO EXPRESS OPINIONS ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO THEM AND THAT 14 ACADEMIC SENATES ASSUME PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING 15 RECOMMENDATIONS ON ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS. 16 "TITLE 5 REGULATION DEFINES ACADEMIC AND 17 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS TO INCLUDE 'STANDARDS OR POLICIES 18 REGARDING STUDENT PREPARATION AND SUCCESS' AND EXPLAINS 19 THAT RELYING PRIMARILY ON THE ADVICE AND JUDGEMENT OF THE 20 ACADEMIC SENATE MEANS THAT 'THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 21 SENATE WILL NORMALLY BE ACCEPTED, AND ONLY IN EXCEPTIONAL 22 CIRCUMSTANCES AND FOR COMPELLING REASONS WILL THE 23 RECOMMENDATIONS NOT BE ACCEPTED. 24 "IF A RECOMMENDATION IS NOT ACCEPTED, THE 25 GOVERNING BOARD OR ITS DESIGNEE, UPON REQUEST OF THE APRIL 26, 2012 101 1 ACADEMIC SENATE, SHALL PROMPTLY COMMUNICATE ITS REASON IN 2 WRITING TO THE ACADEMIC SENATE." 3 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 4 MR. TETI: THANK YOU. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 MS. COOK: HELLO. I AM VENETTE COOK. HELLO, 7 BOARD OF TRUSTEES, ACADEMIC SENATE, SECRETARY. 8 "CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO FOLLOWS THE 9 EDUCATION CODE AND TITLE 5 REGULATION IN SPECIFYING THAT 10 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SHALL RELY PRIMARILY UPON THE ADVICE 11 AND JUDGEMENT OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE IN ACADEMIC AND 12 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS AS DEFINED BY TITLE 5. 13 "THE ACADEMIC SENATE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MET ON 14 APRIL 18TH TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO PLACEMENT TESTING AND 15 ASSESSMENT POLICY. AFTER LISTENING TO STUDENTS AND 16 FACULTY, THE COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION 2012" -- 17 MS. SAGINOR: FORGET THE NUMBER. 18 MS. COOK: -- "WHICH RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD OF 19 TRUSTEE FIVE CLAUSES" THAT I WILL START READING TO YOU. 20 "NO. 5, THAT AN ENGLISH PLACEMENT 'PILOT' 21 PROJECT BE DEVELOPED DURING FALL 2012 FOR POSSIBLE 22 IMPLEMENTATION IN SPRING 2013 OR FALL 2013 USING 23 'PLACEMENT PLUS ONE,' AT WHICH TIME STUDENTS WILL BE 24 ELIGIBLE TO TAKE THE ENGLISH CLASS RECOMMENDED THROUGH THE 25 PLACEMENT ASSESSMENT PROCESS, OR" -- APRIL 26, 2012 102 1 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 2 MS. COOK: -- "TAKE THE CLASS ONE LEVEL 3 HIGHER" -- 4 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 5 PRESIDENT. 6 I WON'T READ THE REST OF THAT ONE, BUT YOU 7 UNDERSTAND NUMBER NO. 5 WAS A PILOT. 8 AND THE WORDING IN NO. 6 WAS SIMILARLY DIFFERENT 9 TO SAY, "THAT STUDENTS WHO FEEL THEIR ENGLISH PLACEMENT 10 SHOULD BE HIGHER, SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED" -- 11 THE WORDING OF CLAUSE EIGHT WAS DIFFERENT AS 12 WELL. 13 "THE SUBSTITUTION OF A POLICY MANDATING ENGLISH 14 'PLACEMENT PLUS ONE' AS A POLICY, RATHER THAN SUPPORTING 15 ITS DEVELOPMENT AS A PILOT PROJECT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AND 16 UNACCEPTABLE CHANGE TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ACADEMIC 17 SENATE. INSISTING ON A TIMELINE FOR THE COMMENCEMENT OF 18 ENGLISH 'PLACEMENT PLUS ONE' THAT DIFFERS FROM THE 19 RECOMMENDATION OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AND 20 UNACCEPTABLE CHANGE. 21 "IF THE BOARD FINDS THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONAL 22 CIRCUMSTANCES AND COMPELLING REASONS FOR DISREGARDING THE 23 RECOMMENDATION THAT THE ACADEMIC SENATE IS PROVIDING IN 24 COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS OF CALIFORNIA, WE 25 REQUEST THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES PROMPTLY COMMUNICATE APRIL 26, 2012 103 1 ITS REASONS IN WRITING TO THE ACADEMIC SENATE." 2 AND THEN THERE'S SUMMARY FORM. THE ACADEMIC 3 SENATE'S REASONS FOR RECOMMENDING AN ENGLISH "PLACEMENT 4 PLUS ONE" PILOT RATHER THAN A CHANGED POLICY. 5 AND I WILL LET MY -- 6 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 7 MS. SAGINOR: -- COLLEAGUE FINISH IT. 8 MR. KAO: MY NAME IS LANCELOT KAO. I AM AN 9 EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEMBER AND ALSO ECONOMIC CHAIR OF THE 10 ASTRONOMY DEPARTMENT, OKAY, AND ALSO A FORMER STUDENT 11 HERE. 12 THE IMPACT ACTUALLY TO BE -- FROM THE COUNSELING 13 DEPARTMENT NEED TO BE ASSESSED. ALSO THE OTHER TECHNICAL 14 PROGRAM ALSO NEEDS TO BE ASSESSED BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF 15 THE REQUIREMENT. 16 AND ALSO, A PROGRAM LIKE ESL -- YOU CAN TELL I'M 17 AN ESL STUDENT MYSELF. SO IF YOU CHANGE A PACE ON THE 18 ENGLISH SIDE OF IT, AND DON'T LOOK AT ESL. WE HAVE SOME 19 IMPACT SO THAT TAKES TIME. 20 DUE TO "PLACEMENT PLUS ONE," THEY ALSO NEED TO 21 HAVE RESOURCES AND ALSO MATERIAL TO BE DEVELOPED FOR 22 STUDENTS TO BE SUCCESSFUL TOO SO THAT ALSO TAKES TIME 23 BASICALLY. 24 ALSO, THE IMPLEMENTATION, AS IN HERE, HAS A LOT 25 OF INTERESTING PROBLEM THAT ARISES. AGAIN, IF YOU APRIL 26, 2012 104 1 (INAUDIBLE) TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE 2 TO RESOLVE IT AT ALL AND IT CAN BE A FAILURE FOR STUDENTS. 3 LASTLY, ACTUALLY, ONE THING THAT'S ALSO 4 IMPORTANT, A PROGRAM, A POLICY CHANGE, EVEN THOUGH MANY 5 PEOPLE SAY THEY MAY BE SUCCESSFUL FOR ONE OTHER COLLEGE -- 6 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 7 MR. KAO: -- BUT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY FOR US. 8 THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. THAT WAS WELL 10 PLANNED AMONG THE FOUR OF YOU TO GET THAT ALL IN. I 11 COMMEND YOU ON THAT. 12 KEVINE BOGGESS. PLEASE CORRECT MY PRONUNCIATION 13 IF I'M MANGLING YOUR NAME. 14 MR. BOGGESS: IT'S KEVINE BOGGESS. I AM A CITY 15 COLLEGE GRADUATE, FORMER CITY COLLEGE STUDENT PRESIDENT OF 16 THE OCEAN CAMPUS. I CURRENTLY WORK WITH COLEMAN ADVOCATES 17 FOR CHILDREN AND YOUTH AND THE YMAC PROGRAM WORKING WITH 18 HIGH SCHOOLERS. 19 AND I JUST WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE PASS THE 20 POLICY IMMEDIATELY SO STUDENTS IN THE FALL WILL BE ABLE TO 21 HAVE OPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLACEMENT TEST. A LOT 22 OF STUDENTS AT CITY COLLEGE FACE SO MANY BARRIERS ALREADY 23 TO BEING SUCCESSFUL THAT THEY DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL. 24 IT WOULD BE GREAT, IF YOU COULD TONIGHT, STAND 25 UP FOR STUDENTS AND DEFEND THEIR RIGHT TO DETERMINE THEIR APRIL 26, 2012 105 1 OWN DESTINIES AND FUTURES AND BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT'S 2 BEST FOR THEM, RATHER THAN WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SEES AS BEST 3 FOR THEM. 4 I MOST DEFINITELY HAVE HAD THE EXPERIENCE AND 5 THE YOUNG PEOPLE I HAVE WORKED WITH, THE PEOPLE TELLING 6 THEM WHAT THEY CAN'T DO AND WHAT THEY CAN'T ACCOMPLISH 7 WHEN THAT'S NOT TRUE. WHEN IT'S PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND 8 THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A CHALLENGE AND THAT THEY CAN 9 MEET THAT CHALLENGE AND BE SUCCESSFUL. 10 SO I AM JUST ASKING YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT THE 11 MEASURE TO IMPLEMENT IT THIS FALL, SO STUDENTS WHO ARE 12 COMING IN THIS FALL, STUDENTS WHO I WORK WITH WILL HAVE A 13 CHANCE TO REALLY SHOW THAT THEY ARE READY FOR THIS 14 CHALLENGE AND ARE READY TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT CITY COLLEGE 15 AND GRADUATE. 16 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 17 MR. BOGGESS: THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 ALISA MESSER. 20 MS. MESSER: SO ALISA MESSER. I AM AN ENGLISH 21 TEACHER BY THE WAY. I AM NOT USUALLY STANDING HERE IN 22 FRONT OF YOU LIKE THAT AND A MINUTE IS NOT ENOUGH. 23 BUT I BASICALLY WANT TO SAY TWO THINGS. I THINK 24 ENGLISH HAS PUT TOGETHER AN AMAZING PLAN. AND THEY WOULD 25 LIKE FOR IT TO BE A PILOT. AND THAT PLAN IS GOING TO HELP APRIL 26, 2012 106 1 STUDENTS, INCLUDING STUDENTS IN MY CLASS THIS SEMESTER, 2 AND STUDENTS I SEE ALL THE TIME WHO DESERVE TO HAVE 3 OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE FORWARD UNDER MANY DIFFERENT 4 CIRCUMSTANCES THAT PLACEMENT ISN'T HELPING. 5 AT THE SAME TIME, THE BUY-IN OF THE FACULTY WHO 6 ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO I 7 ASKED THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, 8 INCLUDING THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE DONE SUCH AMAZING WORK TO 9 MOVE THIS FORWARD, TO WORK TO BUILD CONSENSUS AROUND HOW 10 TO MOVE A PLAN LIKE THIS FORWARD. BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT, 11 WE HAVE A VERY DIVIDED ROOM. AND IT'S A VERY UPSETTINGLY 12 DIVIDED ROOM IN MY PERSPECTIVE. 13 I HEARD TRUSTEE RIZZO -- I KNOW I AM GOING TO 14 RUN OUT OF -- 15 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 16 MS. MESSER: 17 -- TIME. I RAN OUT OF TIME. 18 TRUSTEE RIZZO DID A WONDERFUL JOB A MONTH AGO OF 19 ASKING US TO WORK TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LEADERSHIP 20 SITUATION AND THE FACT THAT DR. GRIFFIN IS LEAVING. I 21 THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE DOING ALL OF US 22 TOGETHER. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 24 JIM SAUVE. 25 MR. SAUVE: I AM JIM SAUVE, I COORDINATE APRIL 26, 2012 107 1 ASSESSMENT AND TEACH IN THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. 2 WE ARE FULLY IN SUPPORT OF "PLACEMENT PLUS ONE." 3 THE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION IN THE ROOM HAS TO DO WITH THE 4 TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FALL 5 2012, WHAT WE ARE REALLY SAYING IS JUNE 23RD, BECAUSE 6 JUNE 23RD, JUNE 20TH-23RD IS WHEN PRIORITY REGISTRATION 7 OPENS. 8 SO THE WINDOW TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THIS MATERIAL 9 TO PUT TOGETHER MATERIALS FOR STUDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN 10 ACCURATELY SELF-ASSESS SO THAT COUNSELORS HAVE A RICH 11 RESOURCE THAT THEY CAN BE WORKING WITH IN THE ENGLISH 12 DEPARTMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ALL OF THAT STUFF, IT'S 13 AN IMPOSSIBLE WINDOW. 14 AND WE WILL NOT HAVE FACULTY AVAILABLE OVER THE 15 SUMMER TO BE WORKING ON THIS. MANY OF OUR FACULTY WILL 16 SIMPLY BE GONE. AND WE NEED LARGE TEAMS OF FACULTY, SO 17 THIS JUST HAS TO DO WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION WITH A 18 TIMELINE, NOT WITH A POLICY DIFFERENCE. 19 THIS CAME FROM THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. THIS IS 20 OUR PROPOSAL. WE BELIEVE IN IT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHELSEA BOILARD. 22 CHELSEA? 23 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: SHE'S COMING. 24 MS. BOILARD: I'M COMING. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SHE'S COMING, OKAY. APRIL 26, 2012 108 1 MS. BOILARD: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. MY NAME 2 IS CHELSEA BOILARD, A DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS AT COLEMAN 3 ADVOCATES FOR CHILDREN AND YOUTH. 4 I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE HERE TONIGHT SUPPORTING 5 SMAC AS AN ORGANIZING PROJECT OF COLEMAN ADVOCATES. WE'VE 6 EXISTED AS AN ORGANIZATION IN SAN FRANCISCO FOR OVER 35 7 YEARS DEVELOPING YOUTH AND PARENT LEADERS AND HAVE DONE 8 YEARS OF SCHOOL-BASED ORGANIZING AND EDUCATION REFORM 9 WORK. 10 AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE HOW FAR I THINK WE'VE 11 ALL COME IN THIS ROOM, INCLUDING THE MATH AND ENGLISH 12 DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE AREN'T DEBATING THE ISSUE OF 13 PLACEMENT TEST REFORM AT ALL THAT WE ARE AT THIS POINT 14 REALLY IT'S ABOUT THE TIMELINE. 15 THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO STAND I GUESS IN 16 AGREEMENT AND ALIGNMENT WITH NIKKI EDGECOMBE OF COLUMBIA 17 UNIVERSITY WHO CAME TO PRESENT AT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, 18 THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO, THE 19 DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN YOUTH AND FAMILIES, SAN FRANCISCO 20 UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, BRIDGE TO SUCCESS, AND MOST 21 IMPORTANTLY, THE FANTASTIC AND BRILLIANT STUDENT LEADERS 22 OF STUDENTS MAKING A CHANGE TO SAY WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT 23 THIS POLICY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE 24 TO ANY MORE -- 25 (TIMER SOUNDS.) APRIL 26, 2012 109 1 MS. BOILARD: -- STUDENTS. AND WE BELIEVE THAT 2 THIS CAN HAPPEN. THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 THE LAST CARD HERE, I'M SORRY I CAN'T READ THE 5 FIRST NAME. I JUST CAN'T READ THE WRITING. THE LAST NAME 6 IS CARLOS FROM MISSION CAMPUS. YEAH, I'M SORRY. I JUST 7 COULD NOT READ THE WRITING. 8 MR. KEREDIA: GOOD EVENING. I AM CARLOS 9 KEREDIA. I TOOK -- FOR A LONG TIME, I TOOK ENGLISH 10 CLASSES. AND THOSE WERE NOT GREAT CLASSES. RECENTLY I 11 WENT BACK TO SCHOOL, AND I DID WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, 12 UNLESS I FELT CONFIDENT. BY LISTENING TO WHAT THESE 13 PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THE FACT THAT YESTERDAY I 14 TOOK TWO MATH TESTS, I HAVE ONE MORE TEST. TODAY I TOOK A 15 PLACEMENT TEST. I CAN TELL THAT WHOEVER FEELS COMFORTABLE 16 IN MOVING FORWARD IN TAKING THE CHALLENGE OF MEETING THE 17 CLASSES, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. SO 18 THAT'S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: JUAN SEGUDO. 20 MR. SEGUDO: ACTUALLY, I WILL LET MARJORIE GO 21 FIRST. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 STATE YOUR NAME. 24 MS. RUIZ: GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I AM MARJORY 25 RUIZ, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF STUDENTS. APRIL 26, 2012 110 1 SO 14 PERCENT COMBINED MINORITY TRANSFER RATES. 2 AND WHEN COMPARED ENGLISH 95X TO ENGLISH 92, ENGLISH 95X 3 HAD A 71 PERCENT RETENTION RATE WHEN COMPARED TO ENGLISH 4 92. NO, WE CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER. WE CANNOT ALLOW 5 ANOTHER GENERATION OF STUDENTS GO BY AND SIT COMPLACENTLY 6 FORGET MORALITY, FORGET ETHICS, AND SAY, NO, WE ARE GOING 7 TO WORK ON THIS UNTIL THIS IS PERFECT. GUESS WHAT? THE 8 SYSTEM ALREADY IS NOT PERFECT. IT IS NOT WORKING. WE 9 NEED TO CHANGE THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 10 WE'VE ALREADY AGREED ON 99.9 PERCENT. WE ARE 11 ASKING THE FACULTY, THE ADMINISTRATORS, EVERYONE IN THIS 12 ROOM, TO PLEASE COME ANOTHER .1 PERCENT AND SAY, HEY, WE 13 CANNOT ALLOW ANOTHER GENERATION OF STUDENTS GO BY. 14 EVERYONE IS CONCERNED FOR STUDENTS, BUT WE NEED 15 THIS TO WORK PERFECTLY, BUT THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING 16 PERFECTLY. HOW CAN WE SIT BY AND SAY, IT'S OKAY FOR YOU 17 TO KEEP FAILING. LET'S TRY SOMETHING ELSE. LET'S TRY 18 SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 19 THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AS FAR AS VALIDITY, AS 20 FAR AS MORALITY, OR ETHICS. 21 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 22 MS. RUIZ: LET'S REMEMBER EVERYTHING THAT WE DO 23 AGREE ON, PLEASE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? APRIL 26, 2012 111 1 MS. WEIL: YES. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GO AHEAD. 3 MS. WEIL: I AM MELINDA WEIL. I AM THE 4 CURRICULUM COMMITTEE CHAIR. AND I HAVE A RESOLUTION 5 APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY A VOTE OF THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE 6 ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 25TH. 7 "BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE 8 EXPRESSES ITS DEEP CONCERN REGARDING REMOVAL FROM THE 9 DOCUMENT APPROVED BY THE ACADEMIC SENATE IN THE SHARED 10 GOVERNANCE PROCESS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM ASPECT OF THE 11 ENGLISH DEPARTMENT'S PLANS TO REVISE MATRICULATION, 12 ASSESSMENT AND PLACEMENT IN THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES' AGENDA 13 ITEM S10. 14 "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE CURRICULUM 15 COMMITTEE EXPRESSES ITS DEEP CONCERN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL 16 NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THE ABOVE ON ITS ABILITY TO ASSESS 17 PREREQUISITES, CO-REQUISITES, AND ADVISORIES ON COURSES 18 AND PROGRAMS ACROSS THE CURRICULUM. 19 AND FINALLY, "BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CURRICULUM 20 COMMITTEE EXPRESSES ITS DEEP CONCERN FOR THE DISENGAGEMENT 21 OF THE SHARED GOVERNANCE PROCESS AS DESCRIBED IN TITLE 5 22 REGULATIONS" -- 23 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 24 MS. WEIL: -- "ON COMMUNITY COLLEGES BY THE 25 BOARD OF TRUSTEES' AGENDA ITEM S10." APRIL 26, 2012 112 1 THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 MR. SEGUDO: SHOULD I FILL OUT THE CARD? 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 COUNSEL DICKEY: MR. PRESIDENT, HE WAS THE ONE 6 WHO STARTED OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. HE'S ALREADY SPOKEN. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU'VE SPOKE ONCE ALREADY? 8 MR. SEGUDO: YEAH. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, OKAY, YOU CAN'T. 10 MR. SEGUDO: FOR REAL? 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ONE SLOT PER CUSTOMER. 12 MS. BROWN: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. MY NAME IS 13 JESSICA BROWN. I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. 14 I AM FIRST AND FOREMOST A TEACHER, BUT I ALSO 15 CHAIR A VERY LARGE DEPARTMENT OF FACULTY WHO FEEL AS 16 THOUGH THEIR WORKING CONDITIONS AND THEIR ACADEMIC 17 EXPERTISE IS BEING IGNORED BY PUSHING THROUGH A POLICY 18 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY A CREATIVE DEPARTMENT OF THE ENGLISH 19 IDEA TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE MULTIPLE MEASURES PROCESS 20 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE JUICE TO 21 IT. TO BE A PART OF COUNSELING, TO BE A PART OF ALL 22 PEOPLE INVOLVED IN TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK, WE HAVE BEEN 23 THE STRONGEST ADVOCATES FOR THIS. 24 WHAT WE DON'T LIKE IS BEING BULLIED AND PUSHED 25 TO DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN WE ARE READY TO DO IT. AND APRIL 26, 2012 113 1 THE FEELING THAT MANY OF MY FACULTY HAVE RIGHT NOW IS ONE 2 OF GREAT BURNOUT. SO YOU ARE WANTING US TO BUY-IN TO DO 3 SOMETHING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY OUR IDEA, AND NOW WE ARE 4 FORCED TO DO IT IN SORT OF SOME SORT OF RECORD PACE TIME. 5 AND YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF US WHO WERE SO 6 GENUINELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS ALONG THE WAY. 7 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 8 MS. BROWN: AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REAL 9 SHAME. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 RICK CANTORA. 12 MR. CANTORA: SO RICK CANTORA, FORMER STUDENT 13 TRUSTEE. 14 AND I WILL PREFACE MY COMMENTS WITH THAT BECAUSE 15 I FEEL LIKE WHEN I WAS STUDENT TRUSTEE, WE WERE WORKING ON 16 ISSUES OF HIRING. THIS WAS 2004. AND I THINK TONIGHT THE 17 BOARD IS GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT MATTER. 18 SO EXCUSE ME AND OTHER PEOPLE IF WE DON'T HOLD 19 OUR BREATH FOR SOME CHANGE TO HAPPEN WITHIN THIS IS 20 INSTITUTION BECAUSE IT IS JUST NOT THE CASE. AND FOR 21 PEOPLE TO SAY, OH, THE SHARED GOVERNANCE PROCESS, WE 22 WEREN'T INCLUDED. 23 THE CHANCELLOR SET FORTH A TASK FORCE TO WORK ON 24 IT. I SAT ON ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES. AND THE CHAIR OF 25 THAT COMMITTEE FAILED TO HAVE MEETINGS, DIDN'T WANT TO APRIL 26, 2012 114 1 HOLD MEETINGS. AND HOW DO YOU EXPECT STUDENTS TO BE 2 INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS IF YOU DON'T HOLD MEETINGS? 3 IF YOU DON'T WORK WITHIN THOSE -- WE ARE ALWAYS 4 TOLD TO WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF SHARED GOVERNANCE. IN 5 EFFECT, IT'S SHAM GOVERNANCE WHEN IT COMES TO STUDENTS. 6 THEY DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF VOICE IN THAT PROCESS. SO I 7 THINK IT'S JUST -- 8 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 10 MR. CANTORA: YEAH, I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD MY 11 BREATH. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 IS THERE FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 14 IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 15 OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE 16 DO HAVE ONE. 17 STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN FILL OUT A CARD. 18 MS. HARRISON: OKAY. MY NAME MAGGIE HARRISON 19 AND I TEACH ENGLISH. I TEACH WOMEN'S STUDIES, ENGLISH 96 20 AND LGBT STUDIES ENGLISH 1A. 21 AND I, LIKE ALL OF US IN THE ROOM, I THINK WANT 22 TO SEE MORE STUDENTS SUCCEED IN MY CLASSES, NOT FEWER. 23 AND I WANT TO WORK WITH THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE SELF-PLACED 24 INTO THE CLASS AFTER A KNOWLEDGABLE SENSE OF WHAT THEY ARE 25 GETTING INTO. I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. AND I APRIL 26, 2012 115 1 KNOW THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AS PROFESSIONAL EDUCATORS TO 2 GIVE THEM AN HONEST SENSE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING INTO. 3 WE PROPOSED TO DO THAT AND WE WANT TO WORK -- 4 THAT'S IN OUR PROPOSAL, THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT PILOT 5 PROPOSAL. AND I FEEL CONFIDENT WE CAN DO IT, BUT WE NEED 6 TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PILOT SO THAT WE CAN ASSESS IT AND 7 MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 10 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 11 OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT THEN, 12 AND WE WILL HAVE BOARD DISCUSSION. 13 PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 14 TRUSTEES, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 15 IF THERE ISN'T, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I HAVE SEVERAL. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, GO AHEAD. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YOU GO FIRST. I WILL GO 20 SECOND. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL -- 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, YOU GO FIRST. THAT'S 23 FINE. I'M STILL WRITING WHAT I NEED TO SAY. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT'S CLEAR TONIGHT IS THAT 25 EVERYONE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS COLLEGE AND THE STUDENTS APRIL 26, 2012 116 1 THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE. AND THAT INCLUDES THE 2 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S 3 CLEAR IN MY CONDUCT OR NOT, BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE 4 CASE. 5 THE PROBLEM WITH OUR DISCOURSE IS THAT IT'S 6 HIGHLY TOXIC AND HIGHLY PARTISAN AND VERY POLITICAL. THIS 7 IS A HIGHLY POLITICAL INSTITUTION. AND I CAN'T LIE. I 8 HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IN MY THREE YEARS ON THIS BOARD, I 9 AM SHOCKED AT HOW PARTISAN THIS PLACE IS. EVERYONE IS 10 PARTISAN. 11 ON THE MERITS OF THIS POLICY, ON THE MERITS, 12 EVERYONE AGREES. AND I WILL TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP FOR IT IN 13 TERMS OF OUR TONE BECAUSE I AM SORRY, I SEE THESE STUDENTS 14 AND THEY REMIND ME OF ME OR MY WIFE WHO WENT HERE. 15 IT IS EASY TO SAY TO A STUDENT YOU CAN WAIT. 16 IT'S NOT YOUR LIFE. IT'S THEIR LIFE. IT'S EASY TO TELL 17 THEM LET'S WAIT A YEAR. IT'S NOT YOUR LIFE. IT'S THEIR 18 LIFE. 19 THE STAKES ARE JUST HIGHER FOR THEM, THEN THEY 20 ARE FOR YOU. THAT'S A FACT. YOU HAVE A JOB. YOU WILL 21 GRADE PAPERS. YOU WILL LECTURE. AND IN THE MEANTIME, 22 THESE STUDENTS WILL HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR TO ENDURE A 23 POLICY YOU KNOW IS FAILING. YOU KNOW IT'S FAILING, BUT 24 YET YOU ARE WILLING TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR TO IMPLEMENT 25 THIS. APRIL 26, 2012 117 1 WHY ARE THEY SACRIFICIAL? WHY DO WE FEEL AT 2 EASE TO MAYBE DELAY A POLICY THAT WILL EFFECT THOUSANDS OF 3 STUDENTS? WHY ARE WE SO AT EASE WITH THAT? 4 BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE ALREADY AGREED THAT THE 5 POLICY NEEDS TO CHANGE. AND WE ALREADY AGREED THAT THIS 6 IS YOUR POLICY, BUT WE JUST CAN'T GET TO IT. WE KNOW IT'S 7 RIGHT. WE KNOW IT'S NOT WORKING FOR OUR STUDENTS. IN 8 FACT, WE ARE PUSHING THEM BACK A SEMESTER OR MAYBE TWO. I 9 CAN WAIT ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE I IMPLEMENT KNOWINGLY WAITING 10 A YEAR BEFORE YOU IMPLEMENT. 11 THEY JUST GOT MORE SKIN IN THE GAME. THIS IS 12 THEIR LIFE. THEY CAN'T WAIT. WHY SHOULD WE MAKE THEM 13 WAIT? WHOSE LIFE IS IT? 14 NOT YOUR LIFE. IT'S THEIR LIFE. 15 PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS SAY, YOU CAN WAIT FOR JUSTICE, 16 BUT THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T WAITING FOR JUSTICE. YOU KNOW 17 THAT? 18 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT 19 JUSTICE OUT HERE IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM AS IF IT'S A BAD 20 WORD. THINK ABOUT THAT, HOW PARTISAN WE'VE GOTTEN. DON'T 21 TALK ABOUT JUSTICE HERE. THIS IS SCHOOL. TALK ABOUT 22 JUSTICE TOO MUCH. I HEAR THE WORD "JUSTICE" TOO MUCH. 23 WE DON'T HEAR THE WORD "JUSTICE" ENOUGH. WHOSE 24 JUSTICE IS IT? IT AIN'T YOURS. THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE, 25 REAL LIVES, REAL FAMILIES, REAL OBLIGATIONS THEY GOT TO -- APRIL 26, 2012 118 1 UNKNOWN SPEAKER: SHAME ON YOU. SHAME ON YOU. 2 THIS IS BOARD DISCUSSION. DON'T TALK TO US. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STOP, PLEASE. 4 UNKNOWN SPEAKER: THIS IS BOARD DISCUSSION. 5 SHAME ON YOU. 6 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: NO, SHAME ON YOU. IT'S 7 OUR LIFE, NOT YOURS. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: QUIET IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE. 9 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: (INAUDIBLE.) 10 MS. WYNN: IT AIN'T ABOUT THESE STUDENTS. IT'S 11 ABOUT THE JOBS. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: INGRID, INGRID, PLEASE. 13 PLEASE. 14 MS. WYNN: SORRY. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S HAVE SOME ORDER. ORDER 16 PLEASE. THANK YOU. 17 ARE YOU AFRAID? 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T KNOW. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE YOU FINISHED? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M NOT SURE WE ARE ALLOWED TO 21 SPEAK OR NOT ANYMORE BECAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW PEOPLE ARE 22 TALKING ABOUT PROCESS TONIGHT. WE HAD A PROCESS WHERE 23 PUBLIC COMMENT WAS OPEN. 24 I DON'T THINK YOU GOT UP TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING 25 WHEN WE HAD COMMENT OPEN. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT PROCESS APRIL 26, 2012 119 1 REMEMBER BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROCESS. EVERYONE'S 2 TALKING ABOUT PROCESS NOW, BUT THEY WON'T ALLOW THE BOARD 3 TO SPEAK. 4 DO YOU SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT? 5 THE PROCESS DEPENDS ON WHO IS TALKING, AND WHOSE 6 AGENDA THE PROCESS IS REALLY BEHIND. IT'S TRUE. PEOPLE 7 TALK ABOUT PROCESS ALL THE TIME, AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM 8 SENDING LETTERS TO ACCREDITATION TEAMS WITHOUT A VOTE AT 9 ALL. PROCESS, RIGHT? WHOSE PROCESS IS IT? 10 LET ME TALK ABOUT PROCESS TOO BY THIS PILOT. 11 YOU NOTICE THE MATH DEPARTMENT IS NOT UP HERE BECAUSE THEY 12 SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF WORKING ON THIS. THEY ACTUALLY 13 SPENT TIME WORKING ON THIS WITH THE BRIDGE TO SUCCESS 14 MONEY THEY WERE GIVEN TO WORK WITH THE MATH DEPARTMENT AT 15 UNIFIED TO DEVELOP THIS CURRICULUM. 16 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: TWO YEARS. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: WHY DID IT TAKE -- 18 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: TWO YEARS. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: DO YOU KNOW WHY I BELIEVED THAT 20 THIS TACTIC THIS TALK ABOUT DELAY AND LET US DO OUR THING 21 IS A LITTLE BIT DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TWO YEARS. 22 IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS. AND ANYONE WILL TELL YOU THAT. 23 ANYONE FROM BRIDGE TO SUCCESS WILL TELL YOU, WE GAVE YOU 24 THE MONEY TWO YEARS AGO TO GET THIS PILOT TOGETHER. AND 25 NOW YOU WANT ANOTHER YEAR. IT'S JUST -- I JUST HAVE A APRIL 26, 2012 120 1 HARD TIME BELIEVING THIS. 2 AND SO LOOK, DESPITE ALL OF THAT, I AM OPEN TO 3 ANY COMPROMISES OUT THERE, BUT I JUST DON'T BELIEVE 4 THAT IT'S -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN 5 OFFERED HERE, THERE'S NO CERTAINTY. 6 PARAGRAPH FIVE, THE ACADEMIC SENATE DOCUMENT 7 GAVE TO US. 8 "THAT THE ENGLISH PLACEMENT 'PILOT' PROJECT BE 9 DEVELOPED DURING FALL 2012 FOR POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION IN 10 SPRING 2013 OR FALL 2013." 11 THERE'S NO DATE CERTAIN AT ALL. THERE'S NO DATE 12 CERTAIN. FALL 2012, POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION. SPRING OR 13 FALL, NO DEADLINE. 14 AGAIN, SO EXCUSE ME IF I JUST DON'T -- I AM A 15 LITTLE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THIS PROCESS ARGUMENT, ESPECIALLY 16 FROM THE ACADEMIC SENATE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE COMPROMISE 17 IN THE ACADEMIC SENATE WAS A POLITICAL ONE. IT WAS NOT 18 BASED ON THE MERITS AT ALL BECAUSE IT CAME OUT OF COLLEGE 19 ADVISORY COUNCIL. IT CAME OUT OF STUDENT PREP THE WAY IT 20 WAS, AND THIS DATE WAS THROWN IN THERE AS A COMPROMISE. 21 THEIR FUTURE -- THEIRS LIVES ARE JUST TOO 22 IMPORTANT FOR POLITICS. I'M SORRY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, IT KIND 25 OF SADDENS ME RIGHT NOW THAT THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT LEFT APRIL 26, 2012 121 1 BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF -- YOU KNOW, I THINK I SEE 2 ONE ACTUALLY -- WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A POLICY 3 DISCUSSION. AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING 4 TO COME OUT OF THIS. AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO CONTINUE TO 5 BE HERE AND TO PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC DIALOGUE. 6 YOU KNOW THAT SAID, YOU KNOW I -- THOSE FOLKS 7 THAT ARE MAKING IT THROUGH BASIC SKILLS ARE MY FOLKS. 8 THEY ARE FROM THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD I AM. THEY LOOK LIKE 9 ME. THEY COME FROM THE SAME BACKGROUND. THAT'S JUST 10 REAL. THEY ARE NOT MAKING THROUGH. AND WE KNOW WE ALL 11 AGREE THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING. WELL, YOU KNOW, 12 AND WE PUBLICLY SAY THAT. 13 AND SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ALL 14 UNDERSTAND THAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING. I WANT 15 TO THANK THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT FOR COMING UP WITH THE 16 PROPOSAL. I THINK THAT CREDIT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO THE 17 ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL THAT 18 THEY CAN NEVER COME UP WITH ANYTHING INNOVATIVE EVER AGAIN 19 BECAUSE I WANT TO THANK THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE FAR TOO 20 MANY FOLKS THAT SAY, NO ALL THE TIME, AND THEY DON'T WANT 21 TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT. THEY THINK THE SYSTEM IS REALLY 22 GOOD, AND IT SERVES THEM. AND THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT 23 ACTUALLY STEPPED UP AND ACTUALLY CRAFTED THIS POLICY. SO 24 I WANT TO PAY RESPECT TO THAT. 25 I WANT TO PAY RESPECT WHEN THEY SAY, THEY NEED APRIL 26, 2012 122 1 TIME. I ACTUALLY WANT TO KIND ECHO THE WORDS THAT ALISA 2 MESSER SAID WHERE WE KIND OF -- WE ARE ALL FIGHTING EACH 3 OTHER, AND WE AGREE ON THE DAMN PROPOSAL. WE ACTUALLY 4 AGREE ON THE ACTUAL THING. AND THE TIMING IS AN ISSUE, 5 AND IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. IT'S ALWAYS TIMING OR A WORD. 6 IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. WE NEVER -- IT'S VERY RARE WHERE 7 WE CAN JUST FIND SOME AGREEMENT WITH EACH OTHER. AND YOU 8 KNOW THAT HAS TO STOP. 9 AND I REALLY TRULY WISH ENGLISH HAD STAYED AND 10 KIND OF CONTINUED TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I HAVE ACTUAL 11 QUESTIONS FOR ENGLISH THAT I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO ASK THEM. 12 I GOT A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THEM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO WITH 13 THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. YOU 14 KNOW, I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT MATRICULATION TOO WHERE 15 WE ARE HEARING ONE THING AND THEN WE ARE NOT. YOU KNOW, 16 AND I'M LIKE OKAY, I NEED ONE CLEAR MESSAGE. 17 WHAT I AM WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, SAY IS CAN WE 18 FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKS? CAN WE DO AN IMPLEMENTATION 19 PERIOD IN THE FALL AND THEN INSTEAD OF A PILOT, JUST SCREW 20 IT, AFTER IMPLEMENTATION IN THE FALL, WE JUST DO IT IN THE 21 SPRING. WE JUST -- YOU NEED THE FALL TO PREPARE. FINE, 22 YOU HAVE THE FALL TO PREPARE THIS. AND THEN COME SPRING, 23 NO PILOT, JUST DO IT. 24 THAT'S KIND OF COMBINING THE TWO PROPOSALS WHERE 25 ONE FOLKS SAY, JUST DO IT. AND ONE FOLKS SAY, WE NEED A APRIL 26, 2012 123 1 SEMESTER, AND THEN WE NEED A YEAR, AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER 2 YEAR TO DO A PILOT TO SEE IF IT WORKS. WELL, LET'S JUST 3 DEVELOP IT. I'M WILLING TO TAKE ENGLISH AT ITS WORD THAT 4 SAYS, THEY NEED TIME, MORE TIME. 5 LET'S JUST TAKE THE SEMESTER TO DEVELOP IT. AND 6 THEN COME SPRING, WE JUST HAVE AT IT AND DO IT AND THEN GO 7 FROM THERE. YOU KNOW, THESE POLICIES CAN ALWAYS BE 8 AMENDED. WE CAN ALWAYS CONTINUE TO ADJUST STUFF. BUT NOT 9 DOING IT IS A DISSERVICE FOR FOLKS. 10 AND SO I HOPE -- I WISH ENGLISH WAS THERE -- WAS 11 HERE TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE FOR 12 THEM. I HATE TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE NO WAY 13 OF COMMENTING ON. BUT I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT IS KIND OF 14 A BLENDING. AND YOU KNOW, I SEE NO HAPPY FACES. SO I 15 THINK IT'S A GOOD PROPOSAL BECAUSE I SEE NO HAPPY FACES 16 AMONG ANYBODY. 17 SO I REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY IF WE CAN HAVE A 18 SEMESTER, WHICH BRIDGE OF SUCCESS HAS PUT UP MONEY TO HELP 19 IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS. SO IF THERE'S MONEY ON THE 20 TABLE AND YOU HAVE A SEMESTER TO IMPLEMENT IT, SHOULDN'T 21 FALL JUST BE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE POLICY? 22 AND IS IT THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY 23 LIVE WITH WHERE NO ONE IS HAPPY, BUT AT LEAST WE GOT 24 SOMETHING DONE, AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, AND WE ARE 25 GOING TO HAVE JUSTICE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE STUDENTS. BUT WE APRIL 26, 2012 124 1 ARE ALSO GOING TO RESPECT THE FACT THAT THE ENGLISH 2 DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED TIME TO MOVE 3 FORWARD. 4 SO I AM OFFERING THAT UP AS AN AMENDMENT. I AM 5 HOPING MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT, AND THAT WE 6 CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE ON ONE 7 THING THAT WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF 8 TESTING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING HERE. THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND FOR 10 THAT AMENDMENT? 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL SECOND IT. 12 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT 13 IS BACK. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WANT TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. 15 IT DID CONCERN ME THAT -- I MEAN WE WANT TO DO THIS AS 16 SOON AS POSSIBLE. BUT WHAT IS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? WHAT 17 IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. 18 IT SOUNDS LIKE MATRICULATION SAYS MAYBE, BUT WE 19 ARE NOT SURE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY CAN'T GET IT DONE 20 BY FALL? 21 SO IF YOU -- I HEARD SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT WE 22 NEED MATERIALS CREATED. WE NEED COMPUTER PROGRAMMING IN 23 THE BANNER SYSTEM. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS -- MAYBE 24 YOU COULD MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, FIRMER IN MY MIND WHAT 25 EXACTLY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU NEED TO PREPARE. APRIL 26, 2012 125 1 MS. JENKINS: SO I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT 2 YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT PLACEMENT TESTING AND REGISTRATION 3 BEGINS SOONER THAN THE SEMESTER STARTS. 4 SO IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION FOR 5 FALL FOR THE CLASSES IN AUGUST, THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE 6 TESTING THROUGH THE SUMMER AND REGISTERING THE STUDENTS 7 THROUGH THE SUMMER FOR THE CLASSES THAT ARE BEGINNING IN 8 AUGUST. 9 FOR SPRING, THE CLASSES THAT BEGIN IN JANUARY 10 WILL BEGIN THAT PROCESS IN OCTOBER. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WHEN YOU SAY, "SUMMER," YOU 12 MEAN JUNE OR WHEN DO YOU MEAN? JULY? 13 MS. JENKINS: SOME REGISTRATIONS WILL OCCUR IN 14 JUNE, JULY, AUGUST. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO WHAT WOULD YOU NEED? 16 WHAT WOULD YOU NEED TO PREPARE YOU AND THE ENGLISH 17 DEPARTMENT BEFORE THIS HAPPENS? 18 MS. JENKINS: WELL, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 19 ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE PROGRAMMED INTO BANNER TO MAKE IT 20 POSSIBLE TO HAVE THOSE PLACEMENTS ENTERED THERE AND 21 AVAILABLE SO THAT WHEN A STUDENT REGISTERS FOR A COURSE, 22 THAT INFORMATION IS PRESENT AND THE SYSTEM ALLOWS THAT 23 REGISTRATION. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S INFORMATION ABOUT -- 25 MS. JENKINS: STUDENTS RECORDS. APRIL 26, 2012 126 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- STUDENT RECORDS. 2 MS. JENKINS: ABOUT THEIR PLACEMENT RESULTS. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 4 MS. JENKINS: AND THE WAY THAT YOU WILL GET 5 PLACEMENT RESULT IS BY USING THE TEST SCORE AND WHATEVER 6 THE RESULTING CONVERSATION OR MULTIPLE MEASURES THAT IS 7 APPLIED TO GET -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THE BANNER SYSTEM DOES NOT 9 HAVE -- BASICALLY, THE DATA BASE DOESN'T HAVE FIELDS FOR 10 THIS INFORMATION THEN. 11 MS. JENKINS: WE WOULD NEED TO PUT -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TO CREATE THAT. 13 MS. JENKINS: -- WE WOULD NEED TO POPULATE 14 THAT -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 MS. JENKINS: -- THOSE RECORDS. WE WOULD NEED 17 TO PUT THAT INFORMATION INTO THE SYSTEM. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WHAT OTHER MATERIALS, I 19 HEARD REFERENCES TO MATERIALS THAT NEED TO BE CREATED. 20 WHAT DOES THAT MEANS? 21 MS. JENKINS: WE ALSO NEED TO EDUCATE BOTH THE 22 FACULTY AND THE STUDENTS ABOUT WHAT THEIR OPTIONS ARE AS 23 WE MOVE TOWARDS ALL OF THESE NEW PLACEMENT METHODS. SO 24 COUNSELORS NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MULTIPLE MEASURES 25 CRITERIA TO USE. WE ARE HOPING TO GET THOSE MATERIALS APRIL 26, 2012 127 1 FROM THE DEPARTMENTS WHERE THE EXPERTISE RESTS. 2 IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MATERIALS TO PROVIDE TO THE 3 COUNSELORS, I AM NOT SURE WHAT MATERIALS THEY WOULD USE. 4 SO I THINK THAT THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD WANT -- I DON'T KNOW 5 SOME AMOUNT OF TIME TO DEVELOP THOSE THINGS. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. OKAY. IS THAT IT? 7 MS. JENKINS: WE ALSO IN THE CASE OF THE MATH 8 PROPOSAL, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT EXTERNAL DATA. SO CST 9 SCORES, WE WOULD NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION FROM UNIFIED 10 SOMEHOW. AND WE WOULD -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 MS. JENKINS: -- AGAIN NEED TO COME UP WITH A 13 PLAN TO PUT THAT INTO BANNER OR SOMEWHERE SO THAT IT 14 BECOMES A PART OF THE STUDENTS -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THOSE THE STANDARDIZED 16 TEST SCORES? 17 MS. JENKINS: YES. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM? 19 MS. JENKINS: CST. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE CST, OKAY. 21 AND THERE ARE NO -- FOR ENGLISH, THERE IS NO 22 EQUIVALENT OF THAT OR SCORES OF ENGLISH IS USING UNDER 23 THIS PROGRAM? 24 MS. JENKINS: WELL, THE MATH DEPARTMENT AGREED 25 TO A COUPLE OF CRITERIA. APRIL 26, 2012 128 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SEE. 2 MS. JENKINS: THE CST SCORE WAS ONE OF THE 3 THINGS THAT THEY WORKED ON -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SEE. 5 MS. JENKINS: -- WITH THE FACULTY FROM UNIFIED. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GOT IT. 7 MS. JENKINS: AND ALSO GPA AND ALSO ATTENDANCE 8 RECORDS. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO 9 RECEIVE AND STORE IN OUR DATA SOMEWHERE IN ORDER TO MAKE 10 THAT DETERMINATION ABOUT WHAT THE PLACEMENT LEVEL IS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 12 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: CAN I? 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 14 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STATE YOUR NAME. 16 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: -- ABOUT THE MATH RECORDS? 17 I AM DENNIS PIONTKOWSKI, CHAIR OF THE MATH 18 DEPARTMENT. 19 I THINK IN OUR BRIDGE TO SUCCESS WORK WE HAD AN 20 AGREEMENT WITH THE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THEY WOULD 21 PROVIDE US WITH DATA ABOUT THE MATH STUDENTS. 22 IN FACT, I THINK THE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT 23 SAID THEY COULD EVEN GIVE US A LIST OF STUDENTS THAT 24 SATISFIED THE REQUIRED CRITERIA. SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO 25 LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL TEST SCORES OR ATTENDANCE DATA OR APRIL 26, 2012 129 1 ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE WOULD JUST GET A LIST OF THEIR 2 HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES THAT SATISFIED THE CRITERIA. THAT 3 LIST COULD BE PUT INTO THE BANNER SYSTEM FAIRLY EASILY, 4 BUT IT DOES REQUIRE THE COOPERATION OF THE UNIFIED SCHOOL 5 DISTRICT TO GIVE US THAT DATA. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 7 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: NOW OUR POLICY ALSO APPLIES TO 8 STUDENTS FROM OTHER DISTRICT AND OTHER STATES AND AREAS 9 AND COUNTRIES ALSO. BUT THE EASIEST GROUP TO IMPLEMENT 10 OUR POLICY WITH IS THE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT GRADUATES. 11 THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO FROM OTHER STATES, OTHER 13 EQUIVALENT TEST SCORES YOU WOULD USE OR -- 14 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: YES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE -- 16 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: NO, WE HAVEN'T SPELLED OUT THE 17 DETAILS OF IT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, 19 YET -- 20 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: NO. NO. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO 22 RESEARCH THAT. 23 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: IT WOULD HAVE -- I THINK IT 24 SHOULD BE A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS BECAUSE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STATE BY STATE YOU MEAN? APRIL 26, 2012 130 1 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: STUDENT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OR STUDENT BY STUDENT. 3 MR. PIONTKOWSKI: STUDENT BY STUDENT BASIS, YES. 4 THANKS. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 VCSD MCKNIGHT: LINDY MCKNIGHT, VICE CHANCELLOR 7 STUDENT DEVELOPMENT. 8 A COUPLE OF COMMENTS IN TERMS OF THE AMENDMENT. 9 THE MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS COME IN IN THE FALL. SO IF 10 WE WAIT ONE SEMESTER, IT ESSENTIALLY IS WAITING A YEAR. 11 IT'S A VERY -- MUCH SMALLER NET IN A SEMESTER BECAUSE 12 OUR -- MOST OF OUR -- THE BULK OF STUDENTS GRADUATE IN 13 MAY. 14 IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION, THERE'S DEFINITELY 15 CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION. AND IT 16 CAN'T -- YOU KNOW, THE MATRICULATION OFFICE CANNOT JUST DO 17 IT INSTANTLY. SO I THINK IT'S BEST IF WE VIEW THE 18 IMPLEMENTATION AS A PROCESS AND THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT 19 STAGES OF THE IMPLEMENTATION. 20 AND TO NOT FORGET WHAT ONE OF THE ENGLISH 21 INSTRUCTORS JODI SAID, WHICH IS WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE 22 MEASURES. SO WE ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING SYSTEM. IT IS 23 LABOR INTENSIVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MANUALLY ENTER. AND 24 IT RELIES ON THE COUNSELORS, BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING. WE 25 WANT STUDENTS TO COME IN AND SEE COUNSELORS. SO I THINK APRIL 26, 2012 131 1 IT'S BEST TO THINK OF IT AS IMPLEMENTING IT IN PHASES. 2 SOME OF IT MAY BE MORE MANUAL WITH THE UNIFIED 3 STUDENTS MAUREEN CAREW, WHO WAS HERE FROM UNIFIED 4 REPRESENTING THE SUPERINTENDENT, SAID TO ME BEFORE SHE 5 LEFT, IF THE TOPIC COMES UP, PLEASE REMIND THE BOARD THAT 6 WE ARE WORKING HARD, AND WE WILL PREPARE A LIST OF 7 STUDENTS THAT MEET THE MATH CRITERIA. 8 IF ENGLISH CAN COME UP WITH SOME CRITERIA, THEY 9 CAN MEET THAT TOO. WE'LL HAVE TO IMPLEMENT THROUGH 10 SELF-REPORTING STUDENTS COMING FROM OUT OF STATE OR OTHER 11 SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 12 BUT ONCE AGAIN, I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT 13 THAT WE START NOW, THAT WE LOOK AT IT AS A PROCESS. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I THINK EVERYONE AGREES 15 ON THAT. 16 THE QUESTION IS WILL BY THE TIME THE FALL 17 SEMESTER STARTS, WILL THIS -- WILL "PLACEMENT PLUS ONE" BE 18 IN PLACE FOR ALL STUDENTS? WILL IT BE IN PLACE? 19 VCSD MCKNIGHT: I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE IN 20 PLACE -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU DON'T THINK IT WILL. 22 VCSD MCKNIGHT: -- FOR ALL STUDENTS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 24 VCSD MCKNIGHT: NO, BECAUSE THE POLICY IS 25 BASICALLY NOT DEPENDANT. WHEN IT'S FULLY IMPLEMENTED, IT APRIL 26, 2012 132 1 IS NOT DEPENDENT ON COUNSELORS ACTUALLY FILLING OUT THE 2 ONE SEMESTER ED PLAN AND USING MULTIPLE MEASURES AND 3 BUMPING THE STUDENT UP. THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE 4 NOW. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 6 VCSD MCKNIGHT: WHEN IT'S FULLY IMPLEMENTED, MY 7 UNDERSTANDING, AND DEAN JENKINS CAN TALK TO THIS BETTER 8 THAN I CAN, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF A STUDENT 9 PLACES IN A CERTAIN LEVEL IN ENGLISH, THEY WILL ENTER IT 10 IN BANNER SO THE STUDENT CAN REGISTER FOR EITHER THAT 11 CLASS OR ONE ABOVE AUTOMATICALLY BYPASSING THE COUNSELING 12 FACULTY. 13 IS THAT CORRECT? 14 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: LINDY, THAT'S PART OF 15 THE PROBLEM, IS THAT THERE'S NO AGREEMENT. 16 VCSD MCKNIGHT: YES, OKAY. RIGHT. I MEAN 17 CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO HAPPEN AROUND IMPLEMENTATION. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT I AM 19 GETTING AT. 20 VCSD MCKNIGHT: THAT'S TRUE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS WHERE -- IF WE DO A 22 HARD, YOU KNOW, MANDATE THAT SAYS THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE 23 BY THE FALL OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE ROLLING, NOT 24 ROLLING OUT, NOT IN STAGES, BUT DONE BY THE FALL, AND IT'S 25 NOT DONE BY THE FALL, IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE WE FAILED. APRIL 26, 2012 133 1 SO I WANT TO KNOW NOW, IS THE WAY TO GO TO ROLL 2 IT OUT, AND START NOW, AND ROLL IT OUT. AND IS IT GOING 3 TO BE DONE BY FALL? 4 IF IT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SAY IT'S 5 GOING TO BE DONE BY FALL. I THINK WE SHOULD REPHRASE IT 6 TO SOMETHING LIKE TRUSTEE JACKSON HAS ROLLING IT OUT OR I 7 FORGET HIS EXACT LANGUAGE AND STARTING TO IMPLEMENT IT. I 8 MEAN WE -- 9 VCSD MCKNIGHT: BEGINNING IMPLEMENTATION WHERE 10 WE CAN. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 12 VCSD MCKNIGHT: AND EXPANDING IT AS WE WORK OUT 13 THE CHALLENGES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I MEAN IF SOMEONE CAN SAY WE 15 CAN DO ALL THIS, THE TESTING, AND THE BANNER PROGRAMMING, 16 AND THE MATERIALS AND ALL THIS STUFF, IF WE COULD DO THAT 17 BY THE SUMMER TO IMPLEMENT IT, TO FINALLY IMPLEMENT IT BY 18 FALL. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAY THAT TONIGHT THOUGH. 19 ARE YOU SAYING THAT OR ARE YOU NOT SAYING -- 20 VCSD MCKNIGHT: NO, I AM AGREEING THAT CAN'T BE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU AGREE. 22 VCSD MCKNIGHT: I MEAN THIS IS -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I MEAN THIS IS A QUESTION. 24 VCSD MCKNIGHT: THE FIRST YEAR IS A CHALLENGE 25 BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TESTED OVER 800 UNIFIED STUDENTS. APRIL 26, 2012 134 1 THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN THE PLACEMENT TESTS AND MANY OF THEM 2 HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN COUNSELORS -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 4 VCSD MCKNIGHT: -- BEFORE THIS HAPPENED. SO 5 IT'S CHANGING HORSES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAM AND 6 THAT'S BEING HONEST. BUT IS THAT ENOUGH OF A REASON TO 7 NOT STOP IT, TO NOT IMPLEMENT IT, NO. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS SAYING 9 TO STOP IT. 10 VCSD MCKNIGHT: OKAY. GOOD. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE 12 PERSON SAY -- 13 VCSD MCKNIGHT: GOOD. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THAT WE SHOULD STOP IT. I 15 AM JUST SPEAKING TO -- 16 VCSD MCKNIGHT: IT'S HOW WE ARE GOING TO 17 IMPLEMENT IT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM JUST SPEAKING TO THE 19 REALITY OF WHAT "AS SOON AS POSSIBLE" MEANS? WHAT IS? AS 20 SOON AS POSSIBLE?" IS "AS SOON AS POSSIBLE" THIS SUMMER 21 OR IS IT NOT? 22 THAT'S MY QUESTION. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE 25 ACADEMIC SENATE PRESIDENT. APRIL 26, 2012 135 1 WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY, "PROMPTLY NOTIFY 2 THE ACADEMIC SENATE?" 3 IF WE GO AGAINST THE ACADEMIC SENATE IN OUR 4 VOTE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "PROMPTLY?" 5 MS. SAGINOR: I AM QUOTING THAT DIRECTLY OUT OF 6 TITLE 5. THAT'S THE WORD THAT'S IN THE TITLE 5 7 REGULATIONS. 8 WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US PROMPTLY IS TO HAVE IT 9 SAY, "BY MONDAY OR TUESDAY" SO THAT I CAN TAKE IT TO THE 10 ACADEMIC SENATE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL ON WEDNESDAY. 11 YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO YOU IN 12 WRITING. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU FEEL YOU HAVE 13 COMPELLING REASONS. YOU COULD PUT THEM IN WRITING FOR US. 14 THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S 16 POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO IT. NO, WE DON'T HAVE A CONSENT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK -- POINT OF ORDER, THROUGH 18 THE CHAIR. 19 MS. SAGINOR: I WAS ASKED A QUESTION. I ONLY 20 ANSWERED THE QUESTION. SHOULD I SIT DOWN NOW? 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH, YOU CAN SIT DOWN. 22 YEAH, AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. IT SLIPPED 23 MY MIND. 24 CAN YOU -- 25 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, CAN I -- APRIL 26, 2012 136 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: MS. SAGINOR, I AM OPEN TO THIS 3 AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAVE HERE, THE ACADEMIC SENATE PASSED, 4 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 5 MAY I? 6 MS. SAGINOR: I JUST WANTED TO GET MY COPY OF 7 IT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT 9 THAT WE HAVE HERE. AND I THINK THERE ARE THREE 10 SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES YOU MADE OR AT LEAST BOLD UNDERLYING 11 CHANGES, RIGHT? 12 THE FIRST IS THE "WHEREAS" THE LAST "WHEREAS, 13 THE ACADEMIC SENATE APPROVED THE PROVISIONS SHOWN BELOW."I 14 DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. 15 OKAY, THE NEXT CHANGE YOU MADE IS PARAGRAPH 16 FIVE, WHICH REALLY SPEAKS TO THE TIMING OF IT. I MEAN I 17 DON'T THINK YOU HAVE JURISDICTION TO TALK ABOUT WHEN TO 18 IMPLEMENT, BUT WE CAN ASK COUNSEL ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT 19 IS INHERENTLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER. 20 BUT WHEN YOU SAY -- THE LANGUAGE HERE, MAYBE YOU 21 CAN SPEAK TO THE INTENT, OKAY -- THAT THE PROJECT BE 22 DEVELOPED DURING FALL 2012 FOR POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION, 23 NOT -- BUT POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION IN SPRING 2013 OR FALL 24 2013. WHAT IS -- DOES THAT MEAN A DATE CERTAIN TO YOU OR 25 DOES THAT LEAVE THAT IMPLEMENTATION DATE OPEN? WHAT WAS APRIL 26, 2012 137 1 THE INTENT OF THAT? 2 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 3 FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS MARKED ON THIS COPY IS 4 CHANGES IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED AND THE BOARD 5 CHANGED OURS. SO THIS IS ASKING IT TO RESTORE IT TO MATCH 6 OURS. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: GO AHEAD. 8 MS. SAGINOR: THE -- FIVE IS BASED ON THE 9 INFORMATION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE ENGLISH 10 DEPARTMENT, BY THE PEOPLE WHO WERE MAKING THE PROPOSAL FOR 11 A PILOT PROJECT. BECAUSE THEY WERE AT THE VERY BEGINNING 12 OF SAYING, YES, THIS IS A PILOT PROJECT WE WANT TO DO, 13 THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO SAY -- THEY DIDN'T YET HAVE A 14 TIMELINE IN PLACE OF HERE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT NEED TO 15 BE FIGURED OUT. HERE'S HOW LONG IT IT'S GOING TO BE TO 16 FIGURE OUT THIS ONE. HERE'S HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO BE TO 17 FIGURE OUT THE OTHERS. AND A MEMBER OF THE ENGLISH 18 DEPARTMENT CAN SPEAK BETTER TO THE TIMING ISSUES. 19 THIS IS NOT MERELY A TIMING ISSUE IN THAT A 20 PILOT PROJECT MEANS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, 21 ASSESS THE RESULTS, AND THEN DECIDE WHETHER TO MAKE IT A 22 PERMANENT POLICY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. I AM NOT -- 24 MS. SAGINOR: SO YOU DIDN'T -- YOU ASKED ME 25 ABOUT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF YOUR QUESTION OR APRIL 26, 2012 138 1 NOT. BUT WHEN YOU SAID, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO 2 TALK ABOUT TIMELINES, IT'S NOT JUST TIMELINES. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, BUT -- SO WHEN YOU VOTED FOR 4 THIS, I ASSUME YOU VOTED FOR THIS LANGUAGE CHANGE. 5 MS. SAGINOR: PERSONALLY, I DIDN'T VOTE BECAUSE 6 I CONDUCT THE MEETING -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, THE BODY. 8 MS. SAGINOR: -- BUT THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL 9 VOTED. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT YOU SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE 11 BODY, RIGHT? 12 MS. SAGINOR: YES, SIR. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. DO THEY NOT KNOW WHAT THIS 14 LANGUAGE MEANS IN TERMS OF A DATE CERTAIN TO IMPLEMENT 15 WHEN THEY VOTED FOR IT. IF THEY DON'T -- I THINK THAT -- 16 WELL, I HOPE THAT THEY DO. AND I IMAGINE YOU DON'T HAVE 17 TO REPLY SIMPLY ON AN ENGLISH DEPARTMENT TO TELL YOU WHAT 18 THIS MEANS BECAUSE AS A BODY DULY CHARGED WITH TALKING 19 ABOUT, NOT TIMING, BUT TALKING ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE 20 POLICY, I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHY THE BODY WOULDN'T 21 KNOW WHAT THIS LANGUAGE MEANT, AND THAT YOU HAVE TO RELY 22 ONLY ON THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT. 23 SO MY SIMPLE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A DATE -- IS 24 THERE A DATE CERTAIN IN PARAGRAPH FIVE AS TO WHEN IT WOULD 25 BE IMPLEMENTED OR NOT? APRIL 26, 2012 139 1 MS. SAGINOR: PARAGRAPH FIVE DOES NOT HAVE A 2 DATE CERTAIN. THE INTENT IS TO IMPLEMENT AS SOON AS IT 3 CAN BE FEASIBLY DONE. THAT'S NOT YET KNOWN WHEN THAT DATE 4 IS; THEREFORE, IT IS NOT A DATE CERTAIN. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT COULD BE BEYOND FALL 2013, 6 CORRECT? 7 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: NO. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE 9 ACADEMIC SENATE KNEW THEY WERE VOTING FOR WHEN THEY 10 SAID -- WHEN THEY PUT THIS LANGUAGE IN HERE. 11 SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY BE 12 IMPLEMENTED -- YOU JUST SAID THAT THERE IS NO DATE CERTAIN 13 HERE. 14 MS. SAGINOR: THERE IS NOT A DATE CERTAIN. YOU 15 ARE QUITE RIGHT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WHAT I MEAN IS THAT THIS MEANS 17 THAT IT COULD ALSO BE IMPLEMENTED AS LATE OR EARLY AS FALL 18 2014, YES? 19 MS. SAGINOR: THE EXPECTATION, BECAUSE THIS IS 20 WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT IT COULD 21 BE IMPLEMENTED IN SPRING 2013 OR FALL 2013, BUT THOSE ARE 22 NOT ABSOLUTE CERTAINTIES. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. I THINK THAT'S -- AND MY 24 LAST QUESTION, KAREN, ON THE OTHER POINT I THINK YOU 25 CHANGED. APRIL 26, 2012 140 1 AGAIN, PARAGRAPH 8, I DON'T THINK I -- I DON'T 2 DISAGREE WITH YOU ON PARAGRAPH 8 BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY 3 PARAGRAPH -- WHAT WAS THERE ALREADY IS WHAT YOU ARE 4 SAYING. SO I ASSUME THAT THE DISTRICT EVALUATES ITS 5 POLICIES ANYWAY EVERY YEAR. I HOPE SO. THAT DOESN'T 6 BROTHER ME THAT MUCH. 7 BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I AM SPEAKING TO 8 WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN REALLY GET SOMETHING DONE AND THERE 9 IS NO REAL DATE CERTAIN FOR WHEN THAT CAN GET DONE, I AM A 10 LITTLE SKEPTICAL ABOUT WHAT THE INTENT IS BEHIND THE 11 RESOLUTION THAT THE SENATE ADOPTED. 12 SO I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD FEEL AT EASE IF THERE 13 WAS A DATE CERTAIN, BUT THERE ISN'T, SO WE'RE BASICALLY 14 JUST GOING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE 15 INTENT OF THIS LANGUAGE TO BE. 16 I WOULD LOVE JESSICA TO CLARIFY, BUT I THINK AS 17 THE ACADEMIC SENATE PRESIDENT, YOU SPOKE CLEARLY TO IT 18 THAT THERE IS NO DATE CERTAIN. 19 I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE I THINK -- LOOK, WE ARE 20 NOT -- I AM OPEN TO THESE CHANGES, BUT YOU HAVE TO 21 UNDERSTAND THAT MY KIND OF PRESSURE POINT HERE IS NOT 22 THESE TWO PARAGRAPHS THAT I RAISED. IT'S REALLY, WHEN ARE 23 WE GOING TO GET THESE DONE? 24 AND DO YOU SEE HOW THAT WHEN YOU TELL ME THERE'S 25 NO DATE CERTAIN I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT. SO I APRIL 26, 2012 141 1 WOULD RATHER THE BOARD SAY, LOOK, MY -- I AM TALKING OUT 2 LOUD HERE, OKAY. 3 WHAT I'D RATHER HAVE DONE OR DO IS IF THERE'S NO 4 DATE CERTAIN IN THIS LANGUAGE, THEN WHAT I WOULD RATHER 5 HAVE IS AN AMENDMENT THAT SAYS AT THE VERY END THAT IT 6 BEGINS FALL 2012 OR SOON AS REASONABLY PRACTICAL. I THINK 7 THAT'S A FAIR COMPROMISE, BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE TELLING ME 8 THERE'S NO DATE CERTAIN. 9 MS. SAGINOR: HOW ABOUT IF YOU SUGGEST THAT AN 10 ENGLISH PLACEMENT PILOT POLICY DEVELOPED DURING FALL 2012 11 FOR IMPLEMENTATION DURING EITHER SPRING 2013 OR FALL 2013 12 DEPENDING ON WHICH IS FEASIBLE. THAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE 13 SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE FROM OUR LANGUAGE THAT 14 THE ACADEMIC SENATE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL, WHO I MUST TAKE 15 THIS BACK TO FOR A DECISION, WOULD BE LIKELY TO ACCEPT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I 17 APPRECIATE THAT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I SUGGEST -- THAT SOUNDS 19 LIKE A PATH FORWARD. BUT INSTEAD OF SAYING, "DEVELOP 20 DURING FALL 2012," WE SAY, "STARTING NOW." JUST START 21 NOW. AND THEN WHATEVER IS POSSIBLE IS POSSIBLE. 22 MS. BROWN: WE HAD HOPED -- I'D JUST WOULD LIKE 23 TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CLEARER TIMELINE ON OUR IDEA. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 25 MS. BROWN: OUR IDEA WENT TO THE BRIDGE TO APRIL 26, 2012 142 1 SUCCESS STEERING COMMITTEE I BELIEVE RIGHT BEFORE SPRING 2 BREAK. AND I GAVE THE PILOT PROPOSAL TO THE CHANCELLOR ON 3 MARCH 22ND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 MS. BROWN: THAT WAS A PILOT THAT WAS DETERMINED 6 WITHIN OUR ENGLISH CURRICULUM COMMITTEE WITH FACULTY ALL 7 ON BOARD TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD PUT SOME MEAT INTO 8 MULTIPLE MEASURES POLICY PLANNING SO THAT WE COULD IN FACT 9 GIVE SOME AUTONOMY TO STUDENTS TO MAKE AN INFORMED 10 DECISION. 11 WELL, I THINK WE'RE ONLY AT APRIL 26TH. SO I 12 WOULD SAY THAT THIS PUSH, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE 13 HAPPENED IN BETWEEN, HAVE DELAYED THE PROCESS FOR US. IF 14 WE COULD HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD, I WENT TO BRIDGE TO 15 SUCCESS. I ASKED FOR SOME RESOURCES. THEY SAID, THERE 16 WERE NO RESOURCES AVAILABLE. SO WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY 17 TO MY FACULTY WHO ARE ALREADY OVERWORKED? CAN YOU GUYS 18 ALL WORK FOR FREE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO MAKE THIS 19 HAPPEN? 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 21 MS. BROWN: THEY DON'T WANT TO ANYMORE. I WISH 22 THEY -- I WISH THEY WERE HEARTENED BY ALL OF THIS THAT'S 23 BEEN GOING ON OVER THE LAST FIVE WEEKS, BUT WE ARE NOT. 24 WE ARE FEELING VERY DEMORALIZED AND VERY DISCOURAGED 25 BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD IDEA. AND NOW OUR APRIL 26, 2012 143 1 REALLY GOOD IDEA HAS TURNED INTO A POLITICAL BATTLE OF 2 WILLS. 3 AND I AM NO LONGER WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN 4 THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES. IN FACT, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE 5 MY LAST BOARD MEETING BECAUSE I THINK I'VE HAD ENOUGH. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL -- 7 MS. BROWN: AND I THINK OUR IDEA IS THAT WE 8 WOULD LIKE TO START THIS -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 10 MS. BROWN: -- WITH SOME SUPPORT AND SOME 11 RESOURCES SO THAT -- WE DON'T WANT TO WORK THIS SUMMER. I 12 DON'T WANT TO WORK THIS SUMMER. I'M SORRY I DON'T GET 13 PAID TO WORK IN THE SUMMER. YOU KNOW, I WORKED EVERY 14 SUMMER FOR FREE FOR THE COLLEGE, AND I AM KIND OF DONE 15 WITH THAT TOO. SO YES, I KNOW STUDENTS WANT ME TO WORK 16 FOR FREE, BUT I JUST -- I SERIOUSLY CAN'T DO THAT FOR MY 17 MENTAL WELL BEING. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 MS. BROWN: SO NOW LET ME GET TO THE TIMELINE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: LET HER SPEAK. 22 MS. BROWN: THE TIMELINE IS IF WE CAN GET SOME 23 RESOURCES TO HELP US, IF WE COULD HAVE A COMMITTEE OF 24 PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER, COUNSELING, NURSING, ALL OF THE 25 PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED BY A PROPOSAL OF THIS NATURE, AND APRIL 26, 2012 144 1 GET TOGETHER IN THE FALL SEMESTER WHEN WE ARE ALL BACK, 2 AND WE ARE WILLING TO WORK AGAIN, AND WE ARE NOT, YOU 3 KNOW, BURNED OUT BY THESE KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, PROCESSES, 4 THEN WHEN THEY TEST IN MARCH, THAT'S IMPLEMENTATION. 5 THOSE STUDENTS WHO COME IN MARCH AND START TESTING THEN 6 CAN BE BUMPED IN THE SUMMER. THEY CAN BE BUMPED FOR THE 7 FOLLOWING FALL. IT WILL ALREADY BE IN PLACE. THAT'S OUR 8 HOPE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 MS. BROWN: THAT'S OUR TIMELINE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 MS. BROWN: THAT'S OUR TIMELINE HOPE. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SO -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. PLEASE, I'VE BEEN 15 TRYING TO GET THIS OUT FOR THE PAST FIVE MINUTES. 16 IF WE SAID, STARTING NOW, WE COULD HAVE 17 MATRICULATION START WORKING ON THE BANNER PROGRAMMING AND 18 SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THIS MECHANICAL STUFF THAT HAS TO 19 HAPPEN, AND NOT ASKING THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT TO WORK FOR 20 FREE OVER THE SUMMER, BUT SOME THINGS COULD GET DONE NOW. 21 MS. BROWN: WELL, IT IS IN MATRICULATIONS 22 PURVIEW -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 24 MS. BROWN: -- TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS THAT THEY 25 KNOW HOW TO MAKE. APRIL 26, 2012 145 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND -- 2 MS. BROWN: IT'S NOT FOR US TO MAKE THOSE 3 DECISIONS. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- BUT WE ARE PASSING A -- 5 MS. BROWN: YEAH. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE PASSING SOMETHING HERE, 7 AND I'D LIKE IT TO BE AS EXACT AS I CAN. 8 MS. BROWN: I THINK -- YEAH. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU KNOW, I DON'T EXPECT YOU 10 TO WORK FOR FREE OVER THE SUMMER. 11 MS. BROWN: THANK YOU, JOHN. I APPRECIATE THAT. 12 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, I -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, TRUSTEE GRIER. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A WHILE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: IS THIS PERTINENT TO WHAT 17 SHE JUST SAID? 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, 19 WORKING FOR FREE SUCKS, OF COURSE, IT DOES. AND I THINK 20 THAT THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION -- AND I JUST FOUND OUT 21 TODAY THAT WALLAH, THERE IS MONEY FROM BRIDGE TO SUCCESS 22 TO FUND SOME OF THAT WORK. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT 23 IMPACTS, BUT I KNOW THAT I JUST GOT TOLD THAT TODAY THAT 24 THERE IS MONEY ON THE TABLE TO ASSIST THAT WORK. 25 AND WE ARE TECHNICALLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, APRIL 26, 2012 146 1 AN AMENDMENT AND WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID KIND OF REFLECTS 2 WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS EVEN THOUGH WE SAY, "IMPLEMENTATION 3 TIME," JOHN SAYS, "START." I THINK WE ARE ALL TALKING 4 ABOUT THE SAME THING HERE. 5 BUT THERE -- MY MAIN POINT WAS THERE IS MONEY ON 6 THE TABLE TO JUST START THE PROCESS NOW SO FOLKS DON'T 7 HAVE TO WORK FOR FREE TO IMPLEMENT THIS IF THAT'S ACCURATE 8 AND LINDY MCKNIGHT IS COMING UP HERE. 9 VCSD MCKNIGHT: SO SPEAKING FOR BRIDGE TO 10 SUCCESS, BRIDGE TO SUCCESS IS A PARTNERSHIP GRANT. THE 11 POINT OF THE GRANT IS THAT SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED AND CITY 12 COLLEGE, WITH SUPPORT FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND CVO'S, 13 WORK TOGETHER. WE HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGING ENGLISH TO COME 14 BACK TO THE TABLE WITH UNIFIED ALL YEAR. AND THERE'S BEEN 15 ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO HERE. 16 THIS IS REALLY A LONG DISCUSSION AS IT IS. 17 BUT THEY HAVE NOT COME. AND THE GRANT SAYS THAT 18 WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR MONEY IN PARTNERSHIP. AND THAT IS 19 WHY THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT WAS NOT GIVEN MONEY BECAUSE 20 THEY WERE NOT MEETING WITH UNIFIED. 21 NOW I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH TRUSTEE 22 JACKSON BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE KNOW 23 PRETTY MUCH WHAT OUR BUDGET IS. WE HAVE A TINY LITTLE BIT 24 OF MONEY LEFT. AND DEAN SCOLARI AND I DISCUSSED IT, 25 TALKED TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO OVERSEE THE GRANT, AND WE APRIL 26, 2012 147 1 FOUND A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE COULD PUT ASIDE TO 2 PAY THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH THE INITIAL 3 CRITERIA. 4 YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE ONE QUESTION THAT'S NOT 5 ANSWERED FOR ME, AND I DON'T KNOW IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ASK 6 IT, BUT I AM GOING TO IS I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE 7 HAS TO BE A SEMESTER OR A YEAR OF STUDY WHEN WE HAVE ALL 8 THIS RESEARCH THAT TELLS US THE HIGH SCHOOL GPA, THE HIGH 9 SCHOOL ATTENDANCE, THE CST TEST, I MEAN WE HAVE A STARTING 10 POINT. WE HAVE A STARTING POINT. WE KNOW THAT THESE 11 THINGS WORK. AND NOW WE NEED OUR ENGLISH FACULTY, WHO 12 KNOW OUR STUDENTS AND WHO KNOW THEIR CURRICULUM, WE NEED 13 THEIR INPUT TO ADD TO THE RESEARCH THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 14 BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO STOP WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE 15 ENGLISH DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT. WE CAN DO IT AS WE GO 16 ALONG AND IMPLEMENT IT IN THE PROCESS. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 18 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THANK YOU. 19 I WILL BE BRIEF SOMEWHAT. 20 I JUST WANT TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT FOUR OR 21 FIVE HOURS AGO WE WERE IN A MEETING, AND WE WERE FACED 22 WITH THE PROBLEM. AND AS A RESULT OF THE PROBLEM, THE 23 CHANCELLOR WAS THERE AND MAYBE THAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE, 24 BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND THEM THAT WE HAD A PROBLEM, AND 25 WE RESOLVED IT. WE TALKED ABOUT RESOURCES AND HOW TO FIND APRIL 26, 2012 148 1 A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. WE DID IT. WE DID IT 2 TOGETHER. 3 AND IT MEANS THAT ON SUNDAY MORNING I WON'T GET 4 TO CHURCH. IT ALSO MEANS THAT SOME OTHER PEOPLE WON'T GO 5 TO CHURCH. AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE DOING FUN THINGS ON 6 SUNDAY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT COLLABORATIVELY, WE 7 KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT. AND WE KNEW IT HAD TO BE DONE. 8 IN LISTENING TO THE 30 MEMBERS WHO CAME UP AND 9 HAD THINGS TO SAY, I REALLY TALLIED HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME 10 UP AND WHAT THEY SAID. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE DO HAVE THE 11 SAME GOAL IN MIND. THE PROBLEM IS HOW DO WE GET THERE. 12 IT WAS REALLY GOOD WHEN PRESIDENT RIZZO TALKED 13 ABOUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO GET THE RESULTS 14 THAT EVERYONE WANTS. AND I THINK THAT THE STUDENTS MADE 15 VERY GOOD COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS. THE ENGLISH 16 DEPARTMENT DID THE SAME THING. THE MATH DEPARTMENT DID IT 17 AS WELL. THE MATRICULATION GROUP ALSO DID A GOOD JOB. 18 ONE OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A 19 JOINT COMMITTEE GROUP THAT IS COMPOSED OF UNIFIED AND CITY 20 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. I WOULD THINK THAT THIS GROUP 21 WOULD PROVIDE THE TIME AND SUPPORT IN ORDER TO HELP US 22 MOVE TOWARD OUR GOAL. 23 THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WE COULD OFFER IS 24 TECHNOLOGY ASSISTANCE. WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO FIND SOME 25 MONEY. I DON'T KNOW THAT. BUT I KNOW THAT WE CAN PROBLEM APRIL 26, 2012 149 1 SOLVE. WE CAN HAVE MEMBERS OF EACH GROUP, FROM EACH 2 DISCIPLINE, COME TOGETHER AND WORK OUT A PLAN TO REACH OUR 3 GOAL. I THINK YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THIS. 4 AND I AM GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE DECIDE THAT WE 5 ARE GOING TO COME TOGETHER. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 6 HOW DO WE RESOLVE OR HOW WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN? WE CAN DO 7 IT. WE REALLY CAN. 8 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CONCENTRATE ON WHAT 9 WE NEED, HOW WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE, BUT ALSO 10 BRAINSTORM WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE LEADERSHIP, HAVE THE 11 IDEAS, AND THE WILLINGNESS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO THAT'S 12 MY SUGGESTION. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: VERY GOOD. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT WAS A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: HALF OF WHAT TRUSTEE GRIER 18 MENTIONED THE COMMITTEE, THAT WAS MY PUTTING TOGETHER WHEN 19 I WAS PRESIDENT. 20 AND CAN I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TRUSTEE JACKSON AND 21 TRUSTEE BERG WITH AN ALTERNATE FROM TRUSTEE GRIER, IF YOU 22 WOULD BE WILLING TO SET A DATE NOW THAT WE COULD MEET WITH 23 OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD AND IN THE 24 MAYOR'S OFFICE. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M OPEN, SO WHENEVER YOU GUYS APRIL 26, 2012 150 1 COME UP WITH THAT DATE. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SHE SAID, "YES." 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: I NEED TO HAVE A TIME THAT I 5 COULD PROPOSE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD, THE BOARD OF 6 EDUCATION TOMORROW. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: TALK TO THE MAYOR FIRST. IF YOU 8 WANT TO MEET WITH THE MAYOR, YOU HAVE TO GO BY HIS 9 SCHEDULE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO, THAT'S NOT A GOOD ENOUGH 11 ANSWER. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, I AM JUST SAYING THAT 13 BEFORE WE SET THE SCHEDULE, WE SEE WHEN HE'S AVAILABLE. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: HYDRA MENDOZA, WHO REPRESENTS 15 THE MAYOR, CAN COME. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: THAT'S WHERE I WILL START. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I WANT TO COME BACK TO 19 LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN AGREE ON THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 20 WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: IF YOU GUYS WANT -- I MEAN IF 22 YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE THAT, THEN WE CAN WITHDRAW IT. 23 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WHICH AMENDMENT WAS IT? 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THE AMENDMENT WAS TO ALLOW FOR 25 A FALL 2012 IMPLEMENTATION PHASE AND THEN IT JUST START IN APRIL 26, 2012 151 1 THE SPRING. SO IT'S KIND OF BLENDING OF THE TWO 2 PROPOSALS. 3 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: NO. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BUT I AM PRETTY TIRED. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM LOOKING FOR WHAT -- 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I MEAN IT WAS SECONDED BY 7 JEFFREY, SO I'M HAPPY TO WITHDRAW IT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO YOU ARE WITHDRAWING. 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, YOU WERE -- 11 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I GUESS THAT'S WHAT YOU GET 12 FOR PUTTING SOMETHING OUT THERE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I CAN'T GET MY HANDS ON IT 14 NOW. 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BECAUSE MINE WAS -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: ARE YOU WITHDRAWING? 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. HE IS WITHDRAWING -- 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON WITHDRAWS HIS MOTION. 20 TRUSTEE NGO, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ACADEMIC 21 SENATE RESOLUTION, PERHAPS MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THAT. 22 AND I HAD SUGGESTED ON THEIR NO. 5, I HAD SUGGESTED AS 23 PART OF THAT TO BE DEVELOPED DURING THE FALL TO SAY -- TO 24 BE -- FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BEGINNING NOW AND THEN THAT WAS 25 MY ONE CONTRIBUTION TO WHATEVER. APRIL 26, 2012 152 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN 2 WHAT I JUST -- LIKE, YOU CAN SAY, "START" OR 3 "IMPLEMENTATION PHASE." LET'S START -- I MEAN I JUST 4 WANTED TO -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, TRUSTEE NGO WAS 6 CONCERNED ABOUT DATES. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I THINK -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DATES CERTAIN. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT DATE 10 CERTAIN. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN WE KEEP THE CONVERSATIONS 12 DOWN. WE CAN'T HEAR. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: LOOK, THE WAY THIS READS, IT SAYS, 14 "THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE RECOMMENDED BY THE 15 ADMINISTRATION TO BEGIN FALL 2012." I DON'T THINK THAT'S 16 INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT VICE CHANCELLOR MCKNIGHT SAID, 17 WHICH IS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT AS SOON AS THEY 18 CAN. 19 MY CONCERN WITH THE ACADEMIC SENATE LANGUAGE IS 20 THAT THERE'S NO HARD DATE FOR ENGLISH TO IMPLEMENT. AND 21 IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SCHEDULE ACTUALLY IS BASED ON MONEY. 22 SO IF THERE'S MONEY OVER THE SUMMER, WHICH I 23 THINK THERE IS, I AM HEARING A NOD FROM THE MAYOR'S 24 OFFICE. THERE IS MONEY OVER THE SUMMER. THERE'S NO 25 REASON WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO START IN FALL. AND I DON'T APRIL 26, 2012 153 1 WANT JESSICA BROWN TO WORK FOR FREE EITHER. 2 MS. BROWN: I DON'T WANT TO WORK AT ALL. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK AT ALL. I 4 UNDERSTAND. I AM GETTING THAT. 5 I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT THE 6 LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE -- I AM HAPPY TO WORK OFF THE 7 ACADEMIC SENATE DOCUMENT. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: CAN WE HAVE A LITTLE QUIET. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE DISAGREE 10 THAT MUCH AGAIN, SO I AM HAPPY TO INCORPORATE MOST OF THE 11 CHANGES THE SENATE HAS RECOMMENDED. BUT YOU ARE KILLING 12 ME WITH THIS NO DATE CERTAIN THING. I JUST THINK IT IS 13 HIGHLY UNREASONABLE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: ESPECIALLY -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PROPOSE SOMETHING. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL. I WILL. BUT I NEED TO 18 CONFIRM SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE -- 19 MR. SAUVE: TRUSTEE NGO, CAN I ADDRESS YOUR 20 CONCERNS? 21 LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU THE SLIPPAGE IN DATE AND 22 TIME. THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHEN THE PLACEMENT TEST CYCLE 23 BEGINS, RIGHT. SO IF WE COME BACK AND WE ARE WORKING HARD 24 ON DOING THIS, WE'VE GOT 33 WORK DAYS FROM THE BEGINNING 25 OF THE FALL SEMESTER TO THE BEGINNING OF THE OCTOBER APRIL 26, 2012 154 1 TESTING CYCLE FOR SPRING SEMESTER. IT'S ABOUT SIX AND A 2 HALF WEEKS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP ALL THE 3 MATERIALS, ENGAGE IN TRAINING WORKSHOPS WITH ALL THE 4 COUNSELING FACULTY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 6 MR. SAUVE: SO THAT'S PRETTY TIGHT. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. 8 MR. SAUVE: WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND THAT. 10 MR. SAUVE: YEAH. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: SO -- 12 MR. SAUVE: YEAH. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THE ASSUMPTION IS -- HERE 14 ARE THE WORKING ASSUMPTIONS IS THAT YOU SAY, THERE'S 15 RESOURCE ISSUES. BUT IS IT WORK ISSUES OR YOU JUST DON'T 16 WANT TO WORK OVER THE SUMMER OR YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY 17 OVER THE SUMMER? 18 MR. SAUVE: I CANNOT AT THIS POINT -- I CAN JUST 19 TELL YOU I CAN'T GET THE VOLUNTEERS TO WORK ON IT OVER THE 20 SUMMER, EVEN IF THERE'S MONEY -- 21 TRUSTEE NGO: THEY ARE NOT VOLUNTEERING, EVEN IF 22 THEY WERE GETTING PAID, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S -- THEY ARE 23 GETTING PAID. 24 MR. SAUVE: THEY STILL HAVE TO VOLUNTEER. THEY 25 OFF CONTRACT. THEY HAVE TO VOLUNTEER AND SAY, THEY WANT APRIL 26, 2012 155 1 TO WORK ON IT. AND, YES, THEY'LL GET PAID. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. SO IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT A 3 WORK ISSUE. YOU JUST GOT A PROBLEM FINDING PEOPLE TO HELP 4 YOU. 5 MR. SAUVE: I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE 6 PROBLEMS FINDING PEOPLE ONCE WE COME BACK IN AUGUST. 7 THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS 9 THAT -- I AM TRYING TO GET US THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE 10 ALMOST THERE. I THINK YOU'VE HEARD LINDY MCKNIGHT AND THE 11 MAYOR'S OFFICE SAY, WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY -- 12 MR. SAUVE: I UNDERSTAND THAT. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TO DO THIS OVER THE SUMMER. 14 AND YOU SAY, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE DON'T WANT IT. 15 MR. SAUVE: I AM TRYING TO ECHO WHAT JESSICA WAS 16 SAYING. THE DEPARTMENT FEELS SO ALIENATED AND 17 DISRESPECTED INSIDE OF THIS PROCESS. 18 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: HOW DO YOU THINK THE 19 STUDENTS FEEL? 20 MR. SAUVE: I UNDERSTAND HOW THE STUDENTS FEEL. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS NOT A CONVERSATION. 23 PLEASE ADDRESS THE TRUSTEE. 24 MR. SAUVE: I'M SORRY. ANYWAYS, SO THEN THE 25 PROBLEM BECOMES CAN WE HAVE STUFF IN PLACE FOR THE OCTOBER APRIL 26, 2012 156 1 TESTING CYCLE OR DOES IT NOT GET FINISHED UNTIL TIME FOR 2 THE MARCH TESTING CYCLE? 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I JUST WANT TO BE -- 4 MR. SAUVE: YEAH. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: -- CLEAR ON WHAT -- I'M SORRY. I 6 CAN'T -- CAN YOU -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU 9 JUST SAID. 10 MR. SAUVE: OKAY. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT I HEARD 12 YOU JUST SAY WAS THAT YOU WILL NOT WORK OVER THE SUMMER 13 BECAUSE, EVEN IF YOU ARE GETTING PAID, BECAUSE OF HOW YOU 14 FEEL YOU WERE TREATED -- 15 MR. SAUVE: I DID NOT SAY, "I." I AM TRYING TO 16 REPRESENT -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW, OKAY. FINE. 18 MR. SAUVE: -- OTHER VOICES WITHIN THE 19 DEPARTMENT. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S FINE. 21 MR. SAUVE: YEAH. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: SO HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR BEING 23 TREATED DURING THIS PROCESS, YOU JUST WON'T DO IT THIS 24 SUMMER. SO IS THAT CLEAR WHETHER YOU HAVE MONEY OR NOT? 25 MR. SAUVE: I MEAN WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE. APRIL 26, 2012 157 1 I COULD GO BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT AND TAKE A VOTE. AND I 2 CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD THEN VOLUNTEER. I 3 DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THAT. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT YOU WILL FEEL BETTER IN THE 5 FALL TO DO THIS? 6 MR. SAUVE: IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF ME FEELING 7 BETTER. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, NOT YOU. 9 MR. SAUVE: I AM JUST TELLING YOU. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T MEAN YOU, I MEAN THE 11 DEPARTMENT YOU. 12 MR. SAUVE: YOU KNOW -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ILL FEELING 14 WILL GO AWAY IN THE FALL. 15 MR. SAUVE: IT MAY. I DON'T KNOW. I REALLY 16 DON'T KNOW. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. DO YOU 18 SEE WHAT I AM SAYING? 19 MR. SAUVE: IT'S THE KIND OF NEGATIVITY THAT 20 GETS GENERATED IN THIS KIND OF MEETING THAT REALLY GOES A 21 LONG WAY -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW, BUT THIS IS WHAT I AM 23 SAYING. 24 MR. SAUVE: -- TOWARDS FUELING PEOPLE'S 25 UNHAPPINESS. APRIL 26, 2012 158 1 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU CAN'T -- I AM TRYING -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL WE NEED IS SOME LANGUAGE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WE CAN'T GOVERN LIKE THIS. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE A LONG MEETING AHEAD 5 OF THIS. 6 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: THE POLICY, PLEASE. 7 CAN WE STICK TO THE POLICY? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN WE GET -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST DON'T KNOW. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE, LOOK -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU'VE HEARD -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LOOK, THESE COMMENTS FROM THE 13 AUDIENCE ARE VERY DISRUPTIVE. WE CAN'T HEAR WHAT WE ARE 14 SAYING, SO PLEASE, JUST REFRAIN. I THANK YOU. 15 SO, TRUSTEE, I AM TRYING TO GET TO LANGUAGE 16 BECAUSE WE HAVE A TON OF OTHER STUFF TO DO, AND IF YOU 17 COULD PROPOSE SOMETHING. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL. SO BASICALLY, I AM GOING 19 TO TAKE THE ACADEMIC SENATE'S -- MOST OF THEIR CHANGES 20 HERE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE 23 JURISDICTION OVER TIMELINES. I AM GOING TO DISREGARD 24 PARAGRAPH FIVE, THEIR CHANGES TO PARAGRAPH FIVE, BECAUSE I 25 AM NOT HEARING A REASONABLE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY WE CAN'T APRIL 26, 2012 159 1 GET THIS DONE. WE CAN'T GOVERN BY EMOTION HERE. 2 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: I AGREE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN WE CAN'T OPERATE THIS WAY. 4 SO I CAN'T -- WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE 5 DEPARTMENTS MOODS. WE JUST CAN'T. SO IF YOU LOOK AT 6 PARAGRAPH FIVE -- 7 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: THIS IS DISGUSTING. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: IF YOU LOOK AT PARAGRAPH FIVE, 9 AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE SENATE HAS JURISDICTION OVER A 10 TIMELINE. IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, OKAY. 11 SO I WOULD ACCEPT THE SENATE'S CHANGES, THE 12 RESOLUTIONS, ACCEPT PARAGRAPH FIVE, ACCEPT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN AT THE "BE IT FURTHER 15 RESOLVED," OKAY, AT THE END IT WOULD SAY, "TO BEGIN FALL 16 2012," I THINK "AND FULLY IMPLEMENTED NO LATER THAN SPRING 17 2013." I THINK IT'S -- WHEN I SAY, "FULLY" -- SO WHEN YOU 18 LOOK AT THE TERM FULLY IMPLEMENTED, IT BASICALLY GIVES THE 19 ADMINISTRATION AND THE DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF GET TOGETHER, 20 WITH UNIFIED EVEN, AND WORK OUT A TIMELINE WHERE WE ARE 21 NOT DELAYING OTHER THINGS. SO THERE'S ROOM THERE, OKAY, 22 IN MY MIND FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO WORK. 23 AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THIS PREVENTS LINDY 24 MCKNIGHT OR BRIDGE TO SUCCESS FROM GIVING THEM TONS OF 25 MONEY THIS SUMMER TO DO THIS. I HOPE THEY FEEL THEY CAN APRIL 26, 2012 160 1 DO IT, BUT AT LEAST THERE'S A DATE CERTAIN HERE, WHICH I 2 THINK IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ACADEMIC SENATE'S SPIRIT 3 ANYWAY THAT SPRING 2013 IS REALLY A MORE REASONABLE 4 TIMELINE IN THEIR MIND, BUT IT DOESN'T LEAVE IT 5 OPEN-ENDED. 6 AND I THINK WITH THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT A 7 RESPONSE. ALTHOUGH I AM HAPPY TO HAVE COUNSEL ESSENTIALLY 8 DIGEST OUR COMMENTS TONIGHT AND SUBMIT A RESPONSE TO THE 9 ACADEMIC SENATE. 10 MS. BROWN: MAY I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, TRUSTEE 11 NGO, ON THE LANGUAGE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: YES, BUT LET ME JUST -- 13 MS. BROWN: THAT WOULD SIMPLIFY THIS. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: YES, OF COURSE, AS THE ENGLISH 15 WRITER, ENGLISH INSTRUCTOR, YES, I WILL TAKE THAT. 16 BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING ON THIS, 17 OKAY. WE ARE WORKING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. I WANT THAT 18 TO BE CLEAR. AND WE ARE STRIKING A BALANCE FROM FAIR -- 19 ESSENTIALLY FROM A DATE CERTAIN, OKAY. AND ESSENTIALLY 20 WHAT I THINK ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF EMOTION GIVEN THESE 21 PROCESSES TO SOMETHING THAT IS PRACTICABLE THAT LINDY CAN 22 WORK WITH, THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT CAN WORK WITH, BUT WE ARE 23 ASSURED THAT THE STUDENTS WILL GET THIS THING -- THEY WILL 24 GET THE BENEFIT OF THIS POLICY THAT YOU KNOW IS -- 25 MS. BROWN: RIGHT. APRIL 26, 2012 161 1 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT IS USEFUL, BECAUSE IT IS YOUR 2 POLICY, BY SPRING 2013. 3 MS. BROWN: SO LET'S TAKE THE WORD, "POSSIBLE," 4 WHEN IT SAYS, "THAT THE ENGLISH" -- 5 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT PARAGRAPH -- 6 MS. BROWN: -- SAYS, "THAT THE ENGLISH" -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: -- ARE YOU LOOKING AT? 8 MS. BROWN: IN NO. 5, "THAT THE PILOT PROJECT BE 9 DEVELOPED DURING FALL 2012 FOR" AND TAKE "POSSIBLE" OUT. 10 STRIKE "POSSIBLE" FOR "IMPLEMENTATION IN SPRING OF 2013" 11 AND TAKE "OR FALL 2013" OUT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. 13 MS. BROWN: WHAT? 14 TRUSTEE NGO: ONE MORE TIME. 15 MS. BROWN: ONE MORE TIME, TAKE OUT THE WORD 16 "POSSIBLE" -- WE ALWAYS LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, FUDGE A 17 LITTLE -- 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. 19 MS. BROWN: -- TO GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE 20 BREATHING ROOM HERE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. 22 MS. BROWN: BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE OUT THE 23 WORD "POSSIBLE" FOR "IMPLEMENTATION IN SPRING 2013" AND 24 STRIKE "OR FALL 2013." 25 TRUSTEE NGO: SO -- APRIL 26, 2012 162 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 3 WILL YOU LOOK AT -- WILL YOU ACCEPT A "NO LATER 4 THAN" LANGUAGE BECAUSE WHEN IT SAYS, "IN SPRING" I WANT TO 5 MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH ESSENTIALLY -- I 6 DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY INDICATION THAT OR ROOM FOR US 7 ESSENTIALLY TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR BECAUSE I THINK IT'S 8 DOABLE IF THE DEPARTMENT FEELS BETTER ABOUT THIS. 9 MS. BROWN: AND -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AND YOU GET MONEY FOR THE SUMMER. 11 I ACTUALLY THINK WE CAN DO IT BY FALL, MOST OF IT BY FALL. 12 AND I THINK YOU SAID THAT BEFORE AT THE LAST COMMITTEE 13 MEETING. 14 MS. BROWN: BUT -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU SAID, BASICALLY -- 16 MS. BROWN: YEAH. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO IT IF IT 18 JUST APPLIES TO INCOMING. YOU CAN'T DO IT IF IT APPLIES 19 TO EVERYONE, SO -- 20 MS. BROWN: WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT IF IT DOESN'T 21 APPLY TO EVERYONE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, I KNOW THAT, BUT -- 23 MS. BROWN: YEAH. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT I AM TRYING TO FIND A SPACE 25 HERE WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY HELP SOME STUDENTS COMING IN, APRIL 26, 2012 163 1 RIGHT. 2 MS. BROWN: HELP -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AND NOT BASICALLY HAVE IT AN ALL 4 OR NOTHING -- 5 MS. BROWN: RIGHT. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: -- PROPOSITION. 7 MS. BROWN: WELL, HOW ABOUT -- CAN WE HAVE THE 8 MONEY IN THE FALL. AND CAN MATRICULATION WORK OUT ALL THE 9 KINKS WITH BANNER AND ALL OF THE OTHER STEPS SINCE THEY 10 ARE WORKING THIS SUMMER? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MATRICULATION CAN WORK ON IT 13 (INAUDIBLE). 14 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE'S -- HERE'S -- HERE'S -- 15 MS. BROWN: THEY ARE THERE, AND THEY ARE PAID TO 16 WORK. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE'S MY THING ON THE MONEY, 18 JESSICA. 19 MS. BROWN: YEAH. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: LINDY CAN ALWAYS GIVE IT TO YOU 21 WITHOUT BOARD AUTHORITY. THEY HAVE IT. 22 MS. BROWN: OH, OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I THINK THEY ARE WILLING TO 24 GIVE IT TO YOU FOR SUMMER. I WOULD HOPE THAT YOUR 25 DEPARTMENT FEELS LIKE THEY CAN WORK, NOT FOR FREE, OVER APRIL 26, 2012 164 1 THE SUMMER. 2 SO I AM NOT -- HONESTLY, CAN I GET SOME CLARITY 3 HERE? I DON'T THINK YOUR PROPOSED LANGUAGE IN PARAGRAPH 4 FIVE IS THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I PROPOSED FOR THE 5 RESOLVED CLAUSE. 6 MS. BROWN: YEAH, AND AS I SAY, I THINK THAT IF 7 WE STRIKE "POSSIBLE" AND "OR FALL 2013" OUT OF THIS, WE'VE 8 REACHED A HAPPY COMPROMISE WHICH SAYS, IT WILL BE 9 "IMPLEMENTED IN SPRING OF 2013." 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T LIKE "IN" BECAUSE IT IS 11 CERTAIN FOR SPRING. 12 MS. BROWN: OH -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW LATER -- 14 MS. BROWN: OKAY. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: -- BECAUSE IT ALLOWS YOU ROOM TO 16 GET IT DONE BY FALL. 17 MS. BROWN: AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO US IF WE 18 DON'T GET IT DONE? I MEAN WHAT IF THERE ARE THINGS BEYOND 19 OUR CONTROL THAT HAPPEN? DO WE GET SPANKED OR -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I HOPE NOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU 21 WANT TO JUST -- I HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CULTURE WHERE 22 WE JUST START IGNORING BOARD DIRECTIVES. 23 MS. BROWN: WELL, I WOULD -- 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: (GAVEL SOUNDS.) 25 MS. BROWN: BUT IF IT SAYS, "FOR IMPLEMENTATION APRIL 26, 2012 165 1 IN SPRING 2013," ISN'T THAT SAYING FOR IMPLEMENTATION? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 3 MS. BROWN: IS THAT NOT -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, IT IS SAYING THAT YOU WOULD DO 5 IT IN SPRING, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO IT 6 FOR FALL IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. 7 MS. BROWN: WELL -- 8 TRUSTEE NGO: IT SAYS, CERTAINLY THAT YOU WILL 9 DO IT IN SPRING, BUT -- 10 MS. BROWN: IF -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T WANT THE MANDATE TO BE 12 THAT YOU ONLY HAVE TO DO IT IN SPRING. I WANT THE MANDATE 13 TO BE THAT YOU COULD -- YOU'D DO IT NO LATER THAN SPRING. 14 MS. BROWN: OKAY. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT THAT -- OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE 16 RESOURCES, YOU CAN TRY AND DO IT BY FALL. 17 MS. BROWN: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE THE 19 "IN." 20 MS. BROWN: OKAY. THEN HOW ABOUT IF THAT IT'S 21 DEVELOPED DURING FALL 2012, WHERE WE IMPLEMENT IF WE CAN 22 IN THE OCTOBER TESTING CYCLE, WHICH IS THE FIRST CYCLE 23 THAT WOULD ALLOW STUDENTS IN SPRING TO TRY THIS OUT. AND 24 WE WILL GIVE OUR BEST SHOT AT TRYING TO DO THAT WITH ANY 25 OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE THAT MIGHT GET IN THE WAY. WE APRIL 26, 2012 166 1 DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE IT FOR IMPLEMENTATION IN SPRING 2 2013. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WHEN YOU SAY, "DEVELOP DURING 4 THE FALL," IT MEANS TO ME THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY 5 FORECLOSING THE POSSIBILITY THAT LINDY CAN THROW MONEY AT 6 YOU. AND YOU WILL DO WORK OVER THE SUMMER. I WANT THE 7 POSSIBILITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. 8 SO I WANT THE MANDATE TO BE THAT IT'S NO LATER 9 DEVELOPED DURING FALL, BECAUSE I THINK BELIEVE IT OR NOT, 10 YOUR DEPARTMENT IS BIG, I KNOW. AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE 11 WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK FOR MONEY OVER THE SUMMER TO DO 12 IT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OR TO BE DEVELOPED NO LATER 14 THAN FALL. 15 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: YEAH. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: FALL 2012. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF WE PUT A "NO LATER" THERE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I WAS THINKING "NO LATER 21 THAN IMPLEMENTATION FOR SPRING 2012." 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT I DON'T WANT -- I WOULD RATHER 24 HAVE "DURING" BE "BY" WHERE -- 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO "BY FALL." APRIL 26, 2012 167 1 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I UNDERSTAND. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN "IMPLEMENTATION NO LATER 4 SPRING 2013." 5 MS. BROWN: I WILL GO BACK TO MY DEPARTMENT AND 6 SEE IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO THIS WORK 7 THIS SUMMER. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THAT ALLOWS 9 MATRICULATION TO START NOW. 10 MS. BROWN: OKAY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF YOU SAY (INAUDIBLE) 12 SOMEHOW. 13 MS. BROWN: OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: SO -- CAN I? SO, I'M SORRY. 15 JESSICA, COULD I JUST BE CLEAR ON THE LANGUAGE 16 SO WE KNOW. 17 SO WE YOU LOOK AT PARAGRAPH FIVE, IT SAYS THAT 18 AND ENGLISH PLACEMENT PILOT -- SO WE ARE GOING TO KEEP 19 ACADEMIC SENATE'S PARAGRAPH. OKAY, WE ARE JUST GOING TO 20 ADJUST IT SLIGHTLY. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU DID IT IN 21 DEFERENCE TO THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT, SO WE HAVE THE 22 ENGLISH DEPARTMENT'S CONSENT -- AT LEAST THE DEPARTMENT 23 CHAIR'S CONSENT HERE. AND THERE IS A NO NEED TO DEAL WITH 24 THE ISSUE OF WHETHER YOU HAVE JURISDICTION OVER TIMING OR 25 NOT. APRIL 26, 2012 168 1 "THAT AN ENGLISH PLACEMENT PILOT PROJECT BE 2 DEVELOPED BY FALL," SO DELETE "DURING," RIGHT? "FOR 3 IMPLEMENTATION," SO DELETE "POSSIBLE" -- "NO LATER THAN 4 SPRING 2013" AND THEN DELETE "OR FALL 2013." 5 MS. BROWN: YES. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT RIGHT? 7 MS. BROWN: THAT'S RIGHT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? 9 MS. BROWN: I AM GOOD WITH THAT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 11 MS. BROWN: ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM GOOD WITH IT BECAUSE I THINK 13 ITS -- IT ALLOWS FOR THE DEPARTMENT, IF IT FEELS LIKE IT, 14 TO MOVE FASTER. AND IF YOU HAVE MONEY, WHICH I'VE NEVER 15 BELIEVED THAT TO BE A DISINCENTIVE TO ANYONE TO ACTUALLY 16 GET THINGS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I WILL TAKE THAT AS A 18 MOTION. 19 IS THERE A SECOND? 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE MARKS. 22 HOLD ON. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON 23 THIS MOTION. WE HAVE TO. WE ARE REQUIRED TO SO GO AHEAD. 24 MS. SAGINOR: SO, SINCE THIS IS THE ACADEMIC 25 SENATE -- APRIL 26, 2012 169 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON THE AMENDMENT. 2 MS. SAGINOR: -- RESOLUTION HERE. SO I'VE GOT 3 THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ARE SAYING, RIGHT. I WILL TAKE IT 4 BACK TO EXECUTIVE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, RIGHT. IT ISN'T 5 EXACTLY WHAT WE DID, RIGHT. AND IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH 6 APPRECIATED, AND YOU HAVE LOTS OF REASONS, AND YOU'VE BEEN 7 SAYING THEM. IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED TO HAVE 8 SOMETHING IN WRITING SAYING, HERE'S THE REASON FOR WANTING 9 THIS CHANGE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US. 10 CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT ONE OTHER THING, WHICH IS 11 RELATIVELY SMALL "YES" OR "NO." 12 AT THE VERY END OF THE DOCUMENT, THE SHARED 13 GOVERNANCE REVIEW STATEMENT, ARE YOU OKAY WITH CHANGING 14 THE BOX FROM "CAC" TO SAY, "ENDORSE" BECAUSE THE CAC 15 ACTUALLY ENDORSED IT RATHER THAN RECOMMENDING IT. 16 YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT? 17 AND YOU ARE OKAY WITH TAKING OUT "STUDENT 18 PREPARATION SUCCESS COMMITTEE" THAT WHOLE BOX BECAUSE THEY 19 ARE NOT ONE OF THE THREE COUNCILS THAT MAKES 20 RECOMMENDATIONS DIRECT TO THE BOARD. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: FINE. 22 MS. SAGINOR: GREAT. OKAY, AND I UNDERSTOOD 23 WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. SO THAT'S PART OF YOUR RESOLUTION 24 IS TO MAKE THOSE LITTLE CHANGES AT THE END WITH THE BOX, 25 RIGHT? APRIL 26, 2012 170 1 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE SENATE 2 DOCUMENT WITH THE CHANGE OF -- EXCEPT FOR THE CHANGES THAT 3 JESSICA DID. 4 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU BASICALLY ACCEPT IT. 6 MS. SAGINOR: SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. I WILL BE 7 TAKING IT BACK TO MY MEMBERS. THANK YOU. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: SO CAN WE JUST HAVE COUNSEL READ 9 FIVE. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: THE AMENDMENT? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AS IT'S PROPOSED. 14 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY, SO LET ME CLARIFY THAT 15 YOU ARE NO LONGER TALKING ABOUT ADDING THE (INAUDIBLE). 16 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 17 COUNSEL DICKEY: SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO ALTER 18 PARAGRAPH FIVE UNDER "RESOLVED" TO READ, "THAT AN ENGLISH 19 'PLACEMENT PILOT PROJECT' BE DEVELOPED BY FALL 2012 FOR 20 IMPLEMENTATION NO LATER THAN SPRING 2013 USING 'PLACEMENT 21 PLUS ONE,' AT WHICH TIME STUDENTS WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO TAKE 22 THE ENGLISH CLASS RECOMMENDED THROUGH THE PLACEMENT 23 ASSESSMENT PROCESS, OR TAKE THE CLASS ONE LEVEL HIGHER 24 AFTER AN INFORMED DECISION MAKING PROCESS WITH THEIR 25 COUNSELORS; SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPLEMENTING APRIL 26, 2012 171 1 'PLACEMENT PLUS ONE' WILL BE DEVELOPED DURING THE PILOT 2 PROJECT BY THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT IN CONSULTATION WITH 3 OTHER ACADEMIC AND STUDENT SERVICES DEPARTMENTS IMPACTED 4 BY THIS PROPOSED "PILOT." 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 6 ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? 7 OKAY, ONLY IF NECESSARY, I WOULD REQUEST. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE AMENDMENT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON THE AMENDMENT ITSELF. 10 MR. OSBORNE: ON THE AMENDMENT -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 12 MR. OSBORNE: YES. I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S A 13 DATE, AND WE ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. BUT MY 14 SPEAKING TO THAT AMENDMENT IS THAT VERY -- FROM THE 15 COUNSELING DEPARTMENT END OF IT, WE NEED TO ABSORB THIS 16 INFORMATION WHICH HAS BEEN ALREADY STATED. SO IT IS 17 IMPORTANT THAT THERE IS SOME TIME. AND THAT'S WHY I AM 18 GLAD THAT THE COMPROMISE HAS COME BECAUSE STUDENTS WILL -- 19 NOT THESE STUDENTS, THEY ARE HERE. THEY ARE AWARE OF 20 WHAT'S -- LIKE THE THREE STUDENTS THAT CAME INTO MY OFFICE 21 THIS WEEK, THEY ARE GOING TO COME IN AND ASK ME ABOUT -- 22 OH, YEAH, HEY, I HEARD THAT WE CAN JUST DO THIS AND DA DA 23 DA DA. AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER IN A PROFESSIONAL 24 ACCURATE WAY. IT'S NO GOOD FOR A STUDENT TO COME TO A 25 COUNSELOR AND THE COUNSELOR SAYS, WELL, I THINK WE MIGHT. APRIL 26, 2012 172 1 SO THANK YOU FOR THE POINTEDNESS. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 3 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 4 OKAY, SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I JUST WANTED TO -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS WOULD BE DISCUSSION ON 8 THE AMENDMENT. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: DISCUSSION ON THE 10 AMENDMENT ONLY, ACTUALLY THIS WILL BE ON THE AMENDMENT. 11 SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO COMPROMISE. AND I 12 WILL VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FOR 13 THE RECORD STATE THAT ENGLISH DEPARTMENT IN ITSELF I HAVE 14 WITNESSED AS A STUDENT ON CAMPUS, THEY HAVE WORKED VERY 15 HARD TO TRY TO HELP STUDENTS ALONG THE PROCESS. NOW NOT 16 EVERYBODY MAY BE SATISFIED WITH THAT. I KNOW NOT 17 EVERYBODY. IT'S CLEARLY EVIDENT THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS 18 HAPPY WITH THEIR EFFORT, OKAY. 19 BUT AS A STUDENT TRUSTEE, I HAVE RANDOMLY TALKED 20 TO STUDENTS ON CAMPUS AS I WALK AROUND. I ASK THEM THE 21 QUESTION JUST POINT BLANK. THEY SEEM TO BE MORE HAVING IT 22 AS A PILOT BECAUSE THEY RATHER HAVE IT WORKED OUT SO THEY 23 ARE NOT GETTING MISINFORMATION. SO I APPRECIATE THIS 24 COMPROMISE. 25 AND ALSO ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S UNFORTUNATE YOU APRIL 26, 2012 173 1 DON'T GET TO HEAR THAT GROUP OF STUDENTS SPEAK THEIR MIND 2 BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO FINISH THEIR ESSAYS 3 AND STUDY, AND THEY ARE NOT HERE SPEAKING. 4 AND I JUST LIKE TO ALSO NOTE THAT THE 5 UNFORTUNATE FACT THAT INFORMATION HAS CAME TO ME 6 UNSOLICITED THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUDENTS ARE BEING 7 PAID TO SPEAK HERE. AND I THINK THEIR VOICE IS STILL 8 VALUABLE, VALID. IT'S JUST THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THAT 9 UNDER ADVISEMENT. BUT I WILL SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. 10 THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, STUDENT TRUSTEE 12 FANG. 13 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I ALSO WANT TO, YOU KNOW -- 14 YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THE COMPROMISE. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT 15 LIKE 25 MINUTES AGO, I HAD THE SAME DAMN COMPROMISE, BUT I 16 DO WANT TO ADMIT. AND I GOT A LOT OF HALF SIDEWAYS LOOKS, 17 SO I GUESS BEING THE FIRST PERSON TO SUGGEST SOMETHING, 18 YOU JUST GET YOUR ASS KICKED. 19 I'M SORRY I'M TIRED. I'VE GOT 15 MONTH YEAR OLD 20 I'VE GOT TO COME BACK TO IN A COUPLE OF HOURS. I JUST 21 WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, 25 MINUTES WE SAID THE SAME 22 THING AND NOW WE ARE HERE. SO I JUST WANT TO SUPPORT THE 23 COMPROMISE. 24 BUT I DO WANT TO COMMENT, I DO -- I FIRST I WANT 25 TO THANK THE ENGLISH FACULTY. I THINK THEY DO A WONDERFUL APRIL 26, 2012 174 1 JOB. I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT I FIND IT AMAZING THAT IN A 2 CLASS OF 30 DURING BUDGET CUTS, YOU GUYS PUT 35, 40 3 STUDENTS INTO A CLASSROOM WITH NO EXTRA PAY. AND I REALLY 4 FIND THAT AMAZING. AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WORK HARD. 5 THIS WAS YOUR PROPOSAL, AND I NEVER WANT TO GET 6 OFF OF THAT THAT THIS WAS YOUR GUYS PROPOSAL. AND I WANT 7 TO THANK YOU FOR DOING SOMETHING BOLD AND PUTTING YOUR 8 NECK OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, TO SEE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE 9 CHANGED AND WILLING TO MAKE AN INSTITUTIONAL CHANGE TAKES 10 A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, GUTS. AND IT TAKES A LOTS OF 11 FORETHOUGHT. 12 I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STUDENTS THAT DID COME 13 OUT AND, YOU KNOW, SPOKE IN FAVOR OF TESTING. I DON'T -- 14 I DON'T THINK THESE STUDENTS ARE GETTING PAID. YOU KNOW, 15 I AM JUST BEING HONEST. THEY WOULD BE DRESSED A LOT 16 BETTER, AND THEY WOULD BE DRIVING BETTER CARS. SO NOT TO 17 SAY THAT YOU GUYS AREN'T DRESSED VERY WELL. 18 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: (INAUDIBLE.) 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH, I CAN'T GO HOME TONIGHT. 20 SO I AM JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE, THAT 21 WHILE I -- AND I THINK THESE STUDENTS ALSO DO STUDY. AND 22 I THINK THESE STUDENTS ALSO HAVE ESSAYS AND FINALS, AND 23 THEY ARE ALSO PART OF THIS PROCESS AS WELL. 24 AND SO I WANT TO -- AND SO AS A FORMER STUDENT 25 ACTIVIST, I WANT TO THANK EACH ENGLISH AND THE STUDENTS APRIL 26, 2012 175 1 FOR ACTUALLY EXPRESSING THEIR VOICE. THIS IS WHERE PUBLIC 2 POLICY HAPPENS. AND I WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, THIS 3 COMPROMISE IS GOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE 4 FORWARD IN MAKING INSTITUTIONAL CHANGE. 5 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, TRUSTEE NGO, 6 AND THANK YOU TO THE REST OF THE BOARD FOR HAVING THIS 7 DISCUSSION. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER 9 DISCUSSION? 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: JUST A QUESTION. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEP. 12 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I AM GLAD WE MOVED 13 FORWARD. AND WE HAVE AN ACTUAL TIMELINE. AND WE ALSO 14 HAVE LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE UPON, SO IS THERE NO 15 NEED FOR THE RESOURCES I OFFERED? 16 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: NO, THERE IS. 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THE RESOURCES I OFFERED 18 WAS TECHNOLOGY HELP AND ALSO SUPPORT FROM -- 19 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: WE'LL TAKE IT. YES. 20 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: ALSO SUPPORT FROM THE 21 COMMITTEE, THE JOINT COMMITTEE, UNIFIED, AND CCSF BECAUSE 22 WE COULD REALLY GET THE NUMBERS THAT YOU NEED FOR THE CST. 23 WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP IN OTHER WAYS AS WELL. 24 LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE. WELL, I GUESS THAT'S IT. 25 BUT WE STILL ARE OFFERING THAT. AND IF YOU NEED IT, WE APRIL 26, 2012 176 1 WILL BE THERE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THANK YOU. 3 I AM SORRY PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. I'M SORRY. 4 I'M SORRY. WE HAVE CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT. 5 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: IT'S OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I? JUST TO CLOSE ON THIS. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: SO LOOK, I KNOW TRUSTEE JACKSON 11 RAISED THIS AMENDMENT ESSENTIALLY 20 MINUTES AGO, BUT I 12 DIDN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T MY FIRST CHOICE. I 13 DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE ARE DELAYING IMPLEMENTATION 14 BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT MAY JUST NOT FEEL LIKE DOING 15 SOMETHING OVER THE SUMMER. 16 SO THIS DEMOCRACY, NOT MY FIRST CHOICE, OKAY. 17 BUT THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT. I'M NOT -- 18 I KNOW YOU WANT TO CALL FOR THE VOTE, BUT I THINK I WOULD 19 LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE AMENDMENT. 20 SO LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING ON THIS. THAT 21 THE RESOLVED CLAUSE HAS NOT CHANGED. THE DISTRICT IS 22 GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THE SCHEDULED 23 RECOMMENDATION FOR 2012. THAT'S THIS FALL. THE ONLY 24 THING THAT'S DIFFERENT IS THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE ROOM, AND 25 I THINK THAT'S NOT INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM APRIL 26, 2012 177 1 EVERYONE TONIGHT. FOR FOLKS TO TWEAK IT, AND GET THINGS 2 DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND WE NOW HAVE A DATE CERTAIN. 3 AND I THINK IT'S BEEN CLEAR TONIGHT THAT THE 4 DISTRICT IS WILLING TO DEVOTE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE 5 THIS HAPPENS. SO TAKE US UP ON IT, PLEASE. 6 WITH THAT, I AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES, 7 AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AND ALL THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS, 8 ESPECIALLY THE STUDENTS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND HAVING 9 THEIR VOICES HEARD. 10 I AM PROUD OF THIS PROCESS, DESPITE SOME 11 EXCEPTIONS AND STATEMENTS TONIGHT. BUT I AM PROUD OF IT 12 FOR THE MOST PART. AND I AM PROUD OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR 13 GETTING THIS APPROVED, AND THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY START THE 14 BUSINESS OF GETTING OUR STUDENTS THROUGH THIS COLLEGE AND 15 ONTO THEIR DREAMS. 16 AND WITH THAT, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE FOR 17 THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE 19 ENGLISH DEPARTMENT FOR COMING UP WITH THIS PLAN. 20 AND ALSO THANK THE TRUSTEES, TRUSTEE NGO, AND 21 THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT TO BE WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND 22 COME OUT WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT 23 EVERYONE CAN LIVE WITH. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A 24 GOOD, A VERY GOOD PROGRAM. AND IT WILL HELP A LOT OF 25 STUDENTS. APRIL 26, 2012 178 1 SO I WILL TAKE, STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 4 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 12 OKAY, SO THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. 13 SO NOW ON THE MOTION ITSELF, THE AMENDED S10. 14 IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? 15 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON 16 THE SHARED GOVERNANCE -- TEN PLUS ONE ISSUE. 17 I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT 18 COUNSEL BELIEVES THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A RESPONSE FOR ANY 19 DIFFERENCE IN THE POLICY THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD 20 AND SHARED -- THE ACADEMIC SENATE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE 21 HAVE TO, IF COUNSEL BELIEVES THAT WE DO, SUBMIT A RESPONSE 22 THAT COUNSEL DOES IT IN A PROMPTLY -- IN A PROMPT MANNER 23 CONSISTENT WITH THE ED CODE. 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: I WILL GET THAT TO THEM WITHIN 25 THE -- FIVE DAYS. APRIL 26, 2012 179 1 TRUSTEE NGO: IF YOU BELIEVE ITS -- 2 COUNSEL DICKEY: BOARD POLICY AND TITLE 5. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM JUST NOT CLEAR IF TIMING IS 4 ACTUALLY IN THEIR PURVIEW, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR 5 SO THAT THE ACADEMIC SENATE CAN KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE A 6 RESPONSE COMING. 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GOOD. 9 ALL RIGHT. STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 OKAY, THE AMENDED S10 IS APPROVED. 21 NOW THE BROADCASTING CREW HAS ASKED ME IF WE 22 COULD TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE THEIR EQUIPMENT IS OVERHEATING, 23 AND THEY ARE SWELTERING. AND IF WE COULD TAKE A 24 FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. THEY ASKED FOR TEN MINUTES, BUT IF WE 25 COULD TAKE FIVE MINUTES. APRIL 26, 2012 180 1 TRUSTEE NGO: DO WE HAVE TO MOVE THAT? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I MEAN I DON'T WANT TO 3 IMPOSE IT ON THE BOARD IF THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO DO 4 THAT. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: COULD WE ALSO LET THOSE 6 PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING FOR THE NEXT -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S6. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YEAH, ORDINANCE OR 9 WHATEVER, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'LL -- THAT THEY ARE 10 NEXT BECAUSE -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AND JUST AS A NOTE, WE WILL BE 13 TAKING UP S6, WHICH IS THE FACULTY DIVERSITY RESOLUTION. 14 THAT WILL BE NEXT. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE ARE RECESSED FOR 16 FIVE MINUTES. 17 (RECESS TAKEN.) 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THANK YOU. WE ARE 19 RECONVENED. 20 DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? 21 WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. 22 SO WE ARE ON ITEM S6. 23 COUNSEL. 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: ITEM S6 IS ENTITLED "ADOPTING 25 BLUEPRINT OF COLLEGE-WIDE POLICY AND IMPLEMENTATION APRIL 26, 2012 181 1 STRATEGY FOR IMPROVING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY IN FACULTY 2 RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION." 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR 4 S6? 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WILL MOVE S6. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE MARKS. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND IT PROUDLY. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED PROUDLY BY TRUSTEE 9 NGO. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: CAN I -- POINT OF ORDER. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE GONE 13 THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT REQUIRES TO 14 GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE OR -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS, WE CAN'T HEAR 16 YOU. YOUR MIKE ISN'T -- 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE 18 GONE THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. I AM NOT CERTAIN IF IT 19 REQUIRES A SHARED GOVERNANCE SIGN OFF. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I THOUGHT THIS WAS A QUESTION OF 21 LEGAL (INAUDIBLE). WAS THE QUESTION ACTUALLY RESOLVED OR 22 NOT? 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK IT WAS RESOLVED. 24 COUNSEL, DOES THIS -- IS THIS REQUIRED TO GO 25 THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE? APRIL 26, 2012 182 1 FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT MARKED ON HERE. I DON'T 2 BELIEVE IT DID GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. IS THAT 3 CORRECT. IT DID NOT GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE? 4 I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. 5 OKAY, COUNSEL, DOES THIS NEED TO GO THROUGH 6 SHARED GOVERNANCE? 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: TO THE EXTENT THAT IT INVOLVES 8 FACULTY DEVELOPMENT OR SORT OF DIRECTION OF CURRICULAR OR 9 SORT OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS, IT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH 10 SHARED GOVERNANCE. I KNOW CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN SPOKE 11 EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THINKING THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE AND 12 ACTUALLY NOT EVEN MINDING IF IT DID, SO -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I ALSO SPOKE WITH 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN TODAY, AND HE THOUGHT IT PROBABLY WOULD 15 BE A GOOD IDEA IF THIS DID GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. 16 HE DIDN'T THINK HAVING THEM LOOK AT IT AND COME BACK WOULD 17 BE A BAD THING. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE 19 WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I MEAN WE JUST HEARD IT 21 FROM COUNSEL AS WELL SO. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK -- 23 I KNOW THAT HE SAID THAT CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN THOUGHT IT 24 SHOULD GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN 25 THAT IT SHOULD GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. APRIL 26, 2012 183 1 WHEN I LOOK AT THIS BLUEPRINT, THE ACADEMIC 2 SENATE DOES HAVE STATUTORY JURISDICTION OVER HIRING 3 PROCESSES. THAT'S CLEAR. AND THEY'VE ALREADY -- THE 4 DISTRICT AND THE SENATE HAVE ALREADY AGREED ON A DOCUMENT. 5 IT'S CALLED, "THE HIRING DOCUMENT." WE PASSED SOME ALMOST 6 TWO DECADES AGO. 7 SO IN MY VIEW, MR. PRESIDENT, THE BLUEPRINT DOES 8 NOT IMPINGE ON THE HIRING DOCUMENT. IF YOU ACTUALLY READ 9 THE BLUEPRINT, AND I KNOW NOT MANY OF US HAVE, IF YOU READ 10 THE BLUEPRINT, IT ESSENTIALLY ASKS FOR -- ESSENTIALLY AN 11 EXTENSION OR FURTHER EFFORT, EVEN VERY SOFT LANGUAGE TO 12 ENCOURAGE FULLER IMPLEMENTATION OR FULLER EXECUTION OF 13 WHAT'S IN THE HIRING DOCUMENT. 14 SO FOR SHARED GOVERNANCE TO LOOK AT THIS 15 DOCUMENT -- I'M SORRY, NOT SHARED GOVERNANCE, THE ACADEMIC 16 SENATE. THAT'S THE STATUTORY BODY THAT HAS AUTHORITY 17 HERE, AND I ADMIT THAT. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WHEN YOU 18 LOOK AT THE BLUEPRINT IT CHANGES ANYTHING IN THE HIRING 19 DOCUMENT. ALL IT REALLY DOES IS SAY, DO MORE OF 20 SOMETHING. THAT'S ALREADY THERE. 21 BELIEVE ME, IF I THOUGHT THIS CHANGED THE HIRING 22 DOCUMENT, I WOULD HAVE ADDED A BUNCH MORE STUFF TO IT, BUT 23 IT DOESN'T. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BLUEPRINT OUTREACH 24 RECRUITMENT, THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE NOT MANDATES. THEY ARE 25 SIMPLY REQUESTS. THE SAME IS TRUE FOR THE APPLICATION APRIL 26, 2012 184 1 DOCUMENTATION PROCESS. THESE SIMPLIFYING OF PROCEDURES 2 DOES NOT HINGE -- IMPINGE ON THE HIRING DOCUMENT. THE 3 SAME IS TRUE FOR THE POLICIES AND PRACTICES. 4 IT BASICALLY -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 5 AUGMENTATION OF FACULTY HIRING ORIENTATION, IT JUST SAYS 6 THAT THE TRAINING THAT HIRING DOCUMENT SAYS THAT SHOULD 7 TAKE PLACE, SHOULD INCLUDE A COUPLE MORE THINGS. SCORING 8 FOR DIVERSITY, THAT'S ALREADY IN THE HIRING DOCUMENT. SO 9 ALL IT ASKS IS THAT YOU ACTUALLY DO IT. INTERNSHIP AND 10 MENTORING, IT'S THE SAME THING. IT DOESN'T SAY, ELIMINATE 11 DIVERSITY INTERNSHIP. IT SAYS, INCREASE IT. AND THAT'S 12 ALREADY CONTEMPLATED IN THE HIRING DOCUMENT. 13 AND AGAIN, FINALLY THE LAST TWO ISSUES, 14 ADMINISTRATIVE, A SELF-STUDY AND REPORT AND A FACULTY 15 DIVERSITY POSITION. NONE OF THESE THINGS ALTER THE HIRING 16 DOCUMENT AT ALL. 17 SO I THINK, AGAIN, WE ARE HYPING UP AN ISSUE 18 THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE HYPED UP. AND IF YOU REALLY WANT 19 TO SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THE ACADEMIC SENATE FOR AMENDMENTS 20 OF THE HIRING DOCUMENT, I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH A 21 MUCH LARGER UNIVERSE OF ITEMS. 22 BUT NOTHING IN THE HIRING DOCUMENT IS GOING TO 23 BE CHANGED BY ANY OF THESE THINGS. THESE ARE 24 ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES THAT SIMPLY ASK THE BODY TO DO MORE 25 OF WHAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT. APRIL 26, 2012 185 1 SO I DON'T THINK COUNSEL ADDRESSED THIS POINT. 2 AND I KNOW THAT CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN ENCOURAGED THIS TO GO 3 TO SHARED GOVERNANCE. BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT 4 DOESN'T HAVE TO IN MY OPINION FOR THE REASONS I'VE STATED. 5 FOR IT TO GO TO SHARED -- FOR IT TO GO TO THE 6 ACADEMIC SENATE, IT WOULD BE A COURTESY TO SEND IT THERE. 7 AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN REALLY WANTED 8 GIVEN HIS LEADERSHIP. HE WOULD LIKE MORE CONSENSUS AROUND 9 IT. AND THAT'S OKAY. I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED IT 10 BECAUSE THESE THINGS ESSENTIALLY ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO 11 DO THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. 12 SO I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT 13 ON ATTACKING A DOCUMENT THAT REALLY DOESN'T FUNDAMENTALLY 14 CHANGE THE HIRING DOCUMENT AT ALL. 15 WITH THAT, I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. AND FOR 16 THE REASONS STATED, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD GO TO SHARED 17 GOVERNANCE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT I WOULD -- 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAVE A QUESTION -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: -- FOR TRUSTEE NGO. 22 WHICH BOX WOULD YOU CHECK OFF? 23 THIS DOESN'T -- THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT REQUIRE 24 REVIEW BY SHARED GOVERNANCE SYSTEM OR THIS RESOLUTION 25 REQUIRES REVIEW BY THE SHARED GOVERNANCE SYSTEM FOR APRIL 26, 2012 186 1 RECOMMENDATION BY THE CHANCELLOR? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: (INAUDIBLE.) 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SINCE WE ARE TALKING 4 ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS REQUIRES SHARED GOVERNANCE 5 REVIEW, AND WE HEARD FROM COUNSEL, AND WE HEARD FROM 6 TRUSTEE NGO, I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM SHARED 7 GOVERNANCE. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE 9 POLICY BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HERE AND A LOT 10 OF FOLKS HAVE LEFT. AND THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT 11 THE ACTUAL POLICY. 12 I AM -- I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF EVERYTHING 13 GETTING BOGGED DOWN INTO PROCESS ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE 14 A LOT OF AMAZING THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DO, AND 15 WE WANT TO BOG IT DOWN IN PROCESS AND NOT ACTUALLY TALK 16 ABOUT THE FACT THAT 65 PERCENT OF AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO 17 ACTUALLY APPLY TO CITY COLLEGE, ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN MAKE 18 IT TO THE INTERVIEWING PANEL. AND WHY THAT'S JUST WRONG 19 ON SO MANY LEVELS OR WHY IF YOU ARE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN 20 WOMAN AND YOU COUNT FOR TWO -- IN TERMS OF DIVERSITY. YOU 21 ARE CALLED -- THEY HAVE THINGS CALLED TWOFERS AND 22 THREEFERS AND FOURFERS. AND SO YOU CAN HAVE ONE PERSON 23 THAT'S AN LGBT AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN, AND THEY ARE LIKE, 24 THREE -- THEY COUNT FOR THREE POSITIONS ON A DIVERSITY -- 25 OF DIVERSITY ON THE HIRING COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S HOW APRIL 26, 2012 187 1 PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS SOMETIMES. AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 2 THAT. 3 I MEAN I PERSONALLY THINK IF WE ARE TALKING 4 ABOUT OUTREACH AND ADMINISTRATION, THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING 5 ABOUT A HIRING DOCUMENT. AND I ACTUALLY WANT TO HEAR 6 PEOPLE STORIES. AND I JUST WANT TO RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO 7 DID TURN OUT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAT TURNED 8 OUT. I WANT TO RESPECT THE FOLKS THAT TURNED OUT. AND 9 JUST LET THEM, LIKE, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE 10 I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. 11 I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DIVISIVE BECAUSE THIS 12 IS A GOOD FIRST STEP IN TERMS OF JUST HAVING THE 13 CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, I WANT PEOPLE TO WORK TOGETHER ON 14 THIS STUFF BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYONE IS 15 BAD OR ANYTHING, IT JUST MEANS WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO. 16 AND SO, LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN 17 AND TALK ABOUT PROCESS OR LEGAL COUNSEL BECAUSE THIS IS 18 NOT ILLEGAL TO TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY. AND IF THAT'S WHAT 19 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AROUND HERE, THEN I AM -- THEN I 20 MIGHT NOT NEED TO BE PART OF THIS INSTITUTION ANYMORE IF 21 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW LEGAL OR ILLEGAL IT IS TO TALK 22 ABOUT THE DIVERSITY. SO LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE POLICY 23 ITSELF AND HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY WORK WITH IT. AND THAT'S 24 THE KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BECAUSE 25 TALKING ABOUT THESE PROCESSES AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, THAT APRIL 26, 2012 188 1 DOESN'T GET US ANYWHERE, TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO 2 MAKE PROGRESS ON AN ISSUE THAT A LOT OF CONSTITUENCY 3 GROUPS HAVE SAID THAT IT'S IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS ANOTHER ISSUE, LIKE 5 S10, WHERE I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PAST FEW 6 DAYS AND HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THERE REALLY IS NO 7 DISAGREEMENT ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ISSUE. THERE IS SOME 8 DISAGREEMENT ON SOME SMALL THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED TO 9 BE ERRORS, BUT NO ONE I HAVE FOUND IS OPPOSING THIS. 10 THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT REQUIRES SHARED 11 GOVERNANCE REVIEW OR NOT -- REVIEW OR NOT IS A LEGAL 12 QUESTION THAT IS IN THE EDUCATION CODE. SO THAT'S WHY I 13 BRING IT UP. IT IS NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER DIVERSITY IS 14 LEGAL OR NOT, OF COURSE, IT IS. SO THERE IS NO REAL 15 OPPOSITION TO THIS. SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT STRAIGHT. 16 I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 17 FIRST I HAVE A CHARLES SPENCER. 18 MR. SPENCER: THANK YOU. 19 MY NAME IS CHARLES SPENCER. I AM PRESIDENT OF 20 THE SAN FRANCISCO AFRICAN-AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC CLUB. 21 WHEN I LOOK AT YOU TONIGHT, I SEE A COUPLE OF 22 THINGS. ONE, YOU HAVE WORLD CLASS STAMINA TO DEAL WITH 23 THESE MEETINGS. 24 TWO, I SEE SOME BRIGHT, SMART, ASPIRING 25 POLITICIANS AND EDUCATORS. SO I KNOW THAT WHEN I LOOK AT APRIL 26, 2012 189 1 THE HR DATA, YOU SEE THE SAME THING THAT I SEE. 2 I AM EMBARRASSED. I AM EMBARRASSED THAT YOU 3 THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE THAT THERE ARE NO BLACK FACULTY IN 4 SOME DEPARTMENTS. I AM EMBARRASSED THAT 6 PERCENT OF 5 INSTRUCTIONAL FACULTY ARE BLACK. I AM EMBARRASSED THAT 6 14 PERCENT OF COUNSELING AND LIBRARY STAFF ARE BLACK WHEN 7 WE LOOK AT THE 6 PERCENT IN THE INSTRUCTIONAL AREAS. I AM 8 EMBARRASSED THAT YOU THINK THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. IT IS NOT 9 ACCEPTABLE. 10 WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT POLICY. WE ARE 11 CONSIDERED ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE 12 CONCERNED ABOUT STUDENTS COMING TO AN INSTITUTION IN A 13 CITY LIKE SAN FRANCISCO BEING ABLE TO FIND INSTRUCTORS IN 14 THE SCIENCES AND JOURNALISM AND MATH WHO LOOK LIKE THEM, 15 RELATE TO THEM, CAN SUPPORT THEM, NOT ONLY BLACK, BUT 16 ACROSS THE DIVERSITY SPECTRUM. 17 I AM EMBARRASSED THAT THAT IS NOT THE TOPIC 18 TONIGHT. I AM EMBARRASSED THAT WE WANT -- THAT WE DON'T 19 WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND RESOLVE THE ISSUE. 20 YOU ARE LEADERS. WE LOOK TO YOU TO LEAD. WE 21 DON'T LOOK TO YOU TO PONTIFICATE AND DEBATE. WE LOOK TO 22 YOU TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. EITHER YOU LEAD IN THE RIGHT 23 DIRECTION OR HAVE I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT BECAUSE YOU THINK 24 IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO NOT HAVE BLACK STAFF EDUCATORS IN SOME 25 DEPARTMENTS. IF YOU THINK IT IS ACCEPTABLE, THEN YOU ARE APRIL 26, 2012 190 1 LEADING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. WE LOOK TO YOU TO LEAD. 2 AND I HOPE YOU ARE GOING TO LEAD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 3 THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 LYDIA JENKINS. 6 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: SHE LEFT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOPE, OKAY. 8 MS. TA: LYDIA HAS LEFT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 MS. TA: SO I AM REPRESENTING LYDIA. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 MS. TA: AND ALIGNED OF -- WE ARE THE ALIGN 13 MEMBER OF THE ASIAN COALITION COUNCIL OF BLACK-AMERICAN 14 AFFAIRS AND LATINO EDUCATIONAL ASSOCIATION URGE THE 15 CHANCELLOR'S SEARCH COMMITTEE HEADED BY THE BOARD OF 16 TRUSTEES TO SEARCH FOR A CHANCELLOR WHO WILL UNDERSTAND 17 AND APPRECIATE THE DIVERSITY OF CITY COLLEGE, WHO WILL 18 WORK TO ENSURE THAT STUDENTS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS HAVE THE 19 OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED IN COLLEGE, AND WILL BE COMMITTED 20 TO THE PRINCIPLE OF EXCELLENT AND EQUITY. 21 AS WE ALL KNOW, THE CCSF STUDENT BODY IS 22 OVERWHELMINGLY COMPRISED OF STUDENTS OF COLOR AND WOMEN. 23 THEREFORE, THE ALIGN OF MEMBER REPRESENTING THE ASIAN 24 COALITION, THE COUNCIL ON BLACK-AMERICAN AFFAIRS AND THE 25 LATINO EDUCATIONAL ASSOCIATION, REQUEST THE OPPORTUNITY TO APRIL 26, 2012 191 1 ENGAGE THE CANDIDATE FOR THE PRECISION PERMANENT 2 CHANCELLOR IN A DIALOGUE ABOUT THIS ISSUE AS THE PROCESS 3 MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 KOVAK WILLIAMSON. 6 IS KOVAK STILL HERE? 7 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: HE HAD TO LEAVE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: JAMES BURREL. 9 JAMES BURREL? NO? 10 DR. ROBINSON. 11 IS DR. ROBINSON HERE? 12 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: YES, HE IS HERE RIGHT 13 NOW. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 15 DR. HUNNICUTT: OBVIOUSLY, I AM NOT DR. MARK 16 ROBINSON. DR. ROBINSON HAD TO LEAVE. HE HAD BEEN HERE 17 EARLY ON FROM SIX O'CLOCK OR 6:30 WHEN YOU STARTED. AND 18 HE JUST HAD TO LEAVE, SO I AM SPEAKING ON HIS BEHALF. HE 19 IS OUR INTERIM PRESIDENT FOR THE COUNCIL ON BLACK-AMERICAN 20 AFFAIRS, SO I AM SPEAKING FOR HIM, BUT I AM ALSO SPEAKING 21 FOR THE COUNCIL. AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS REPORT 22 DISCUSSES DIVERSITY AND PEOPLE OF COLOR, BUT IT DOES NOT 23 SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS. 24 NOW I THINK THAT REVEREND BROWN DID A VERY GOOD 25 JOB OF ELOQUENTLY OUTLINING SOME OF THE ISSUES PERTAINING APRIL 26, 2012 192 1 TO AFRICAN AMERICAN INVOLVEMENT AND THE NECESSITY TO MAKE 2 SURE THAT WE STILL REMAIN PART OF THE CITY COLLEGE FAMILY, 3 NOT ONLY AT -- AT ALL LEVELS. 4 WE HAVE READ THIS REPORT. AND WE COULD COMMENT 5 ON IT FOR DAYS, OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: THE BLUEPRINT, NOT THE REPORT. 7 DR. HUNNICUTT: THE BLUEPRINT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 9 DR. HUNNICUTT: THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHAT I AM 10 TALKING ABOUT. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE 12 REPORT HERE. 13 DR. HUNNICUTT: NO. NO. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT 14 THAT ONE. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY BLUEPRINT, 15 OKAY. 16 AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, WE'VE READ THAT TOO, 17 BUT WE MUST -- SOME OF THOSE STATISTICS AND ALL ARE 18 JUST -- IT'S A LITTLE CONVOLUTED, SO IT NEEDS TO BE BROKEN 19 OUT. 20 AND THAT'S OUR POINT IS THAT WE THINK THAT THE 21 REPORT, EITHER OF THOSE REPORTS, NEED TO BE REDONE AND 22 REWORKED AND REVISED TO ADDRESS AFRICAN AMERICAN CONCERNS. 23 YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE 6 OR 7 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION HERE 24 IN SAN FRANCISCO, BUT OUR STUDENTS STILL NEED TO SEE US 25 REFLECTED IN ALL OF THE FACULTY -- IN THE FACULTY IN APRIL 26, 2012 193 1 ADMINISTRATION AND IN CLASSIFIED, OKAY. 2 SO OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, RESPECTFULLY, IS 3 THAT YOU DEVELOP A STRATEGY AND OR A POLICY TO ADDRESS THE 4 QUANTITY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN INVOLVEMENT AT ALL LEVELS 5 IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM UNCLEAR. SO REGARDING 7 THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION, DO YOU WANT IT TO GO BACK TO 8 ADD THESE CONCERNS ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS? 9 DR. HUNNICUTT: ABSOLUTELY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU DO. 11 DR. HUNNICUTT: ABSOLUTELY. AND ON THAT OTHER 12 DOCUMENT TOO, MAKE IT CLEAR. YOU KNOW, HOW MANY FACULTY 13 MEMBERS DO WE HAVE AT THIS INSTITUTION? HOW MANY 14 ADMINISTRATORS? YOU ARE DANGEROUSLY LOW -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 16 DR. HUNNICUTT: -- ON AFRICAN-AMERICAN 17 ADMINISTRATORS. LET'S GET REAL. WHEN SOME OF US LEAVE, 18 YOU MAY HAVE TWO PEOPLE STANDING -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 20 DR. HUNNICUTT: -- THAT ARE OF AFRICAN DESCENT 21 OR AFRICAN AMERICAN. YOU CAN'T RUN AN INSTITUTION LIKE 22 THAT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 24 DR. HUNNICUTT: WHEN WE HAVE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN 25 WOMAN WHO APPLIES AT A DEPARTMENT WITH A PHD FROM APRIL 26, 2012 194 1 STANFORD, AND SHE IS TOLD THAT SHE DOES NOT MEET MIN QUALS 2 OR HAVE SUFFICIENT TEACHING EXPERIENCE, EVEN THOUGH SHE 3 DOES, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. 4 AND SO I DON'T WANT TO BE ANGRY WITH YOU. I 5 JUST THINK I'M TRYING -- AS A 41 YEAR VETERAN AT CITY 6 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, HAVING SPENT 28 YEARS IN THE 7 CLASSROOM WITH YOU IN THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT AND 8 ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, 12 YEARS IN ADMINISTRATION. I'VE 9 WORKED OUTSIDE OF THIS COLLEGE, OKAY. THREE YEARS WITH 10 SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED. YOU JUST GOT TO DO BETTER WHEN IT 11 COMES TO AFRICAN AMERICAN INVOLVEMENT. 12 AND YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR 13 GROUPS -- YOU HEARD FROM US TONIGHT, THE ASIAN COALITION, 14 LEA AND THE COUNCIL ON BLACK-AMERICAN AFFAIRS NEED TO BE 15 PART OF THE PROCESS WHEN IT COMES TO THE CHANCELLOR'S, THE 16 SELECTION OF THE CHANCELLOR FOR CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 17 FRANCISCO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 ANDREW HOM. 20 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: HE LEFT, OKAY. 21 LET'S SEE, IS IT ELI CRAWFORD? 22 NO, OKAY. 23 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: HE LEFT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 25 MINH-HOA TA, I THINK SHE WAS -- DID YOU -- OR APRIL 26, 2012 195 1 THERE YOU GO. YOU ARE STILL HERE. 2 MS. TA: IT'S ME AGAIN, GOOD EVENING. 3 I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE -- NOT AN 4 ADMINISTRATOR, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UCSF 5 VIETNAMESE HEALTH PROMOTION PROJECT, THE REPRESENTATIVE OF 6 THE ASIAN COALITION, AND A MEMBER OF THE WHITE HOUSE 7 INITIATIVE ON ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN SERVING INSTITUTION 8 AND A MEMBER OF THE NEWLY FOUND APIACU, WHICH IS ASIAN 9 PACIFIC ISLANDER COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITY. 10 WHILE I WAS READING THE BLUEPRINT, I WAS SHOCKED 11 TO SEE THAT WITH THE 38 PERCENT OF STUDENT POPULATION THAT 12 WE HAVE AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, THE BODY 13 LANGUAGE DID NOT EVEN IMPLY THAT ASIAN AMERICAN EXISTS AT 14 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. THAT TO ME, IS AN INSULT, 15 OKAY. IT'S AN INSULT TO THE ASIAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS AND 16 TO THE ASIAN-AMERICAN FACULTY AND STAFF AT CITY COLLEGE. 17 THE ENTIRE PRINT WRITTEN IN FORM DOES NOT 18 INCLUDE OR REFLECT ASIAN-AMERICAN FACULTY CITY COLLEGE. 19 ASIAN AMERICANS ARE THE MAJORITY STUDENT POPULATION AS A 20 COLLEGE. AND OFTENTIMES, WE ARE BEING DISMISSED OR 21 CLASSIFIED AS MODEL MINORITY OR WORST FOREIGNER. TO BE 22 GIFTED IN MATH AND SCIENCE IS CONSIDERED AS NON CREATIVE 23 OR COMPETITIVE. TO BE POLITE, IT WOULD BE TOO PASSIVE TO 24 BE FAMILY ORIENTED. IT'S TO BE TOO ETHNIC. 25 FURTHERMORE, ETHNIC LUMPING GENERATE THE MOST APRIL 26, 2012 196 1 COMMON FORM OF DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS. WE 2 DO NOT ALL EAT RICE OR USE THE CHOPSTICKS, SPEAK THE SAME 3 LANGUAGE, PRACTICE THE SAME RELIGIONS OR POLITICAL BELIEF. 4 IN FACT, THERE ARE ONLY FIVE CHOPSTICK NATION IN THE 5 WORLD. 6 SO PLEASE DO NOT GO TO A THAI RESTAURANT AND ASK 7 FOR CHOPSTICKS. 8 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 9 MS. TA: IF THE BLUEPRINT CALLED FOR DIVERSITY 10 AND IF CITY COLLEGE PRIDE ITSELF TO BE THE MOST DIVERSE 11 COLLEGE -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 MS. TA: -- PLEASE INCLUDE US IN THE BLUEPRINT 14 IN ALL THE POLICY. THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CARMEN ROMAN-MURRAY. 16 MS. ROMAN-MURRAY: GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE 17 BOARD. 18 I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE 19 BLUEPRINT THAT WILL PROMOTE THE HIRING OF MORE DIVERSE 20 FACULTY; HOWEVER, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FAIL TO ADDRESS 21 TWO CRITICAL AREAS. ONE IS THE RETENTION AND PROMOTION OF 22 THE DIVERSE FACULTY THAT ARE TO BE HIRED. 23 AS A MEMBER OF THE SHARED GOVERNANCE DIVERSITY 24 COMMITTEE, MY RESEARCH INDICATES THAT WE ARE DOWN ON 25 RETENTION AND PROMOTION POLICY. THE HIRING OF NEW FACULTY APRIL 26, 2012 197 1 WILL BE A REVOLVING DOOR. 2 EVERY COLLEGE WEBSITE, EVERY BOOK THAT I READ ON 3 HIRING DIVERSE FACULTY, INCLUDES THESE TOPICS. YOU CAN'T 4 FIND ONE WITHOUT THE OTHERS. DIVERSE FACULTY IN ORDER TO 5 THRIVE NEEDS ITS SUPPORT ASSISTANT AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL TO 6 ENSURE THAT DEPARTMENTS NOT ONLY HIRE DIVERSE FACULTY, BUT 7 THAT THEY SUPPORT DIVERSE FACULTY AND ACTIVELY WORK AND 8 HELP THEM TO SUCCEED. 9 AT THIS TIME, IT'S SINK OR SWIM FOR DIVERSE 10 FACULTY GOING AND OBTAINING A REVIEW. AND THERE IS NO 11 ACCOUNTABILITY AT EITHER THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL OR THE 12 ADMINISTRATION THAT PROTECTS DIVERSE FACULTY AGAINST WHAT 13 CAN BE AN UNWELCOMING HOSTILE ATMOSPHERE. 14 I AM A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF THAT. MY DEPARTMENT, 15 THE ESL DEPARTMENT, TALKS A GOOD GAME ABOUT DIVERSITY. 16 BUT IN REALITY, THEY DON'T HONOR OR RESPECT THE -- 17 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 18 MS. ROMAN-MURRAY: -- DIVERSE FACULTY. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 20 MS. ROMAN-MURRAY: SO I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER 21 THIS RETENTION AND PROMOTION OF DIVERSE FACULTY AND THE 22 BLUEPRINT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 24 FRED TETI. 25 MR. TETI: GOOD EVENING. FRED TETI, FIRST VICE APRIL 26, 2012 198 1 PRESIDENT OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE. 2 I SHALL READ THE BEGINNING OF A PREPARED 3 STATEMENT. 4 "RESOLUTION S6 WOULD ADOPT AND DIRECT THE 5 CHANCELLOR TO IMPLEMENT THE 'BLUEPRINT OF COLLEGE-WIDE 6 POLICY,' A POLICY DOCUMENT. THE TITLE CALLS IT A POLICY 7 DOCUMENT. THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY EXPLAINS THAT IT WAS 8 CREATED IN RESPONSE TO A FEBRUARY RESOLUTION THAT CALLED 9 FOR THE OFFICE OF THE CHANCELLOR TO DEVELOP A 10 'COMPREHENSIVE COLLEGE-WIDE POLICY AND IMPLEMENTATION 11 STRATEGY FOR IMPROVING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY IN FACULTY 12 RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION.' 13 "IT CITES STATISTICS TO SUPPORT CONCLUSIONS 14 ABOUT FACULTY DIVERSITY ON A BROAD SALE. IT RECOMMENDS 15 CHANGES TO SPECIFIC POLICIES. IT RECOMMENDS NEW 16 REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME PROCEDURES AND SO FORTH. THIS 17 DOCUMENT IS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD, BECAUSE IT IS THE 18 PROPER ROLE OF THE BOARD TO ADOPT OR CHANGE COLLEGE 19 POLICY. IF THE DOCUMENT CONTAINED ONLY A LIST OF 20 ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITIES DERIVED FROM CURRENT POLICY, 21 THOSE WOULD FALL ENTIRELY WITHIN THE ROLE OF THE CEO AND 22 THE BOARD WOULD NOT NEED TO DETAIL THEM IN A RESOLUTION. 23 "CALIFORNIA LAW SPECIFIES THAT THE FACULTY 24 HIRING CRITERIA, POLICIES, AND PROCEDURES FOR A COMMUNITY 25 COLLEGE ARE TO BE DEVELOPED JOINTLY BY THE GOVERNING BOARD APRIL 26, 2012 199 1 AND THE ACADEMIC SENATE BEFORE BEING APPROVED BY THE 2 GOVERNING BOARD. THE BLUEPRINT WAS NOT DEVELOPED JOINTLY 3 BY THE ACADEMIC SENATE. IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY THE 4 ACADEMIC SENATE. CONTRARY TO TITLE V, THE ACADEMIC SENATE 5 WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOMINATE A REPRESENTATIVE 6 TO THE WORKGROUP THAT CREATED THE BLUEPRINT. 7 "SO WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF BOARD PRESIDENT 8 RIZZO, AN OPINION WAS SOUGHT FROM MICHELLE PILATI, 9 PRESIDENT OF THE ACADEMIC SENATE FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY 10 COLLEGES, THE STATE ORGANIZATION, ABOUT THE APPLICABILITY 11 OF ED CODE TO MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING POLICY. HER 12 RESPONSE, CLARIFIES THAT CHANGES TO EXISTING POLICY 13 REQUIRED JOINT AGREEMENT, NOT JUST COLLEGIAL CONSULTATION. 14 PRESIDENT PILATI DREW OUR ATTENTION TO THE 2005 CASE: 15 IRVINE VALLEY COLLEGE" -- 16 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 17 MR. TETI: -- "ACADEMIC SENATE" -- THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 20 PRESIDENT. 21 PRESIDENT PILATI DREW OUR ATTENTION TO A CASE 22 THAT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE. 23 "ON PAGE 10 OF THAT CASE CAN BE FOUND THIS 24 PASSAGE: 25 "THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE LEGISLATURE GRANTED APRIL 26, 2012 200 1 THE SENATES A ROLE EQUAL TO THE DISTRICT'S IN DEVELOPING 2 AND ADOPTING FACULTY HIRING POLICIES. THEY UNDOUBTEDLY 3 CONTEMPLATED A BALANCE BETWEEN THE INTERESTS OF EACH PARTY 4 AND THAT COMPROMISE WOULD BE REQUIRED. RESPONDENTS MAY 5 FEEL THIS DECISION WAS UNWISE AND ARE FREE TO SEEK A 6 CHANGE IN THE LAW, BUT THE LAW ON THE BOOKS IS WHAT THIS 7 COURT MUST FOLLOW. 8 "IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE ADOPTION 9 OF S6 AT THIS TIME IS NOT REQUIRED FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO BE 10 MADE IN THE FACULTY HIRING PRACTICES. THE 'BLUEPRINT OF 11 COLLEGE-WIDE POLICY' CONTAINS SOME SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS 12 THAT WOULD CHANGE PRACTICES, BUT NOT POLICY OR PROCEDURE. 13 THOSE CAN BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT REQUIRING AUTHORIZATION 14 FROM THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS 15 PROMPTED BY THE DOCUMENT ARE PRODUCING ADDITIONAL 16 SUGGESTIONS THAT ARE COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT 17 POLICY AND CAN BE IMPLEMENTED EASILY. THE ACADEMIC SENATE 18 WILL REVIEW THE 'BLUEPRINT OF COLLEGE-WIDE POLICY' AND USE 19 IT AS A STARTING POINT TOWARDS REACHING JOINT AGREEMENT ON 20 IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGES OR PROCEDURES. 21 WORK ON SPECIFIC PRACTICES CAN AND WILL PROCEED WITH OR 22 WITHOUT THE BLUEPRINT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH." 23 AND IF YOU WANT THE CASE THAT THEY REFER TO THAT 24 I READ FROM AND THAT MICHELLE PILATI REFERRED TO, I HAVE 25 SOME COPIES OF THAT. APRIL 26, 2012 201 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 2 VENETTE COOK. 3 MS. COOK: (INAUDIBLE). 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU DIDN'T NEED TO. OKAY. 5 GREAT. 6 ANNA ASEBEDO. 7 MS. ASEBEDO: HELLO. MY NAME IS ANNA ASEBEDO, 8 AND I AM AN ART INSTRUCTOR, AND I AM SERVING AS CHAIR OF 9 THE ART DEPARTMENT. 10 AND I AM SPEAKING TO YOU IN THAT CAPACITY THIS 11 EVENING AS SEVERAL ART DEPARTMENT FACULTY MEMBERS HAVE 12 REVIEWED THE BLUEPRINT. AND WE VERY MUCH TAKE TO HEART 13 THE IMPORTANCE OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND THE REFLECTION OF 14 THAT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CURRICULUM. 15 HAVING SAID THAT, IN THE DOCUMENTS LOOKING AT 16 ONLY THREE SEMESTERS OF INFORMATION, COMPARING DIFFERENT 17 CONSTITUENCIES, LEAVING SUBJECT AND RELATED GRADUATE 18 STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS UNADDRESSED, REMOVING APPLICATION 19 REQUIREMENTS IN THE NAME OF SIMPLIFICATION AND STATING AN 20 UNDEFINED CHANGE IN THE EQUIVALENCY BENCHMARK, THE 21 BLUEPRINT POLICY AS PROPOSED SETS US UP FOR DISPUTES OVER 22 INFORMATION. 23 I, AND FELLOW ART DEPARTMENT FACULTY ARE 24 ENTHUSIASTIC IN SHARING OUR CONCERNS AND IDEAS ABOUT THIS 25 BLUEPRINTS PROPOSAL, A DOCUMENT THAT WE BELIEVE SHOULD NOT APRIL 26, 2012 202 1 BE ADOPTED IN ITS PRESENT FORM. 2 AND HAVING SAID THAT, WE WILL EXPAND OUR EFFORTS 3 TO INCREASE DIVERSITY IN OUR DEPARTMENT BY SHARING 4 RECRUITING AND RETENTION PLANS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS 5 WITHIN THE SCHOOL OF LIBERAL ARTS. THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 KEVINE BOGGESS. 8 MR. BOGGESS: I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON MY 9 EXPERIENCE AT CITY COLLEGE AND ISSUES AROUND DIVERSITY. 10 WHEN I ARRIVED AT CITY COLLEGE, I HAD A CLASS 11 WITH MR. GLENN NANCE, PROFESSOR GLENN NANCE. AND HE WAS A 12 MENTOR TO ME. AND HE REALLY HELPED ME TO GET THROUGH CITY 13 COLLEGE TO GRADUATE AND THEN TO GO ON TO ATTEND MOOREHOUSE 14 COLLEGE IN ATLANTA AND GRADUATE FROM THERE. 15 ISSUES OF DIVERSITY WITH THE FACULTY HAVE ALWAYS 16 BEEN AN ISSUE AT CITY COLLEGE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN 17 AROUND AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. IT HAS A REALLY 18 NEGATIVE IMPACT ON STUDENTS WHEN YOU GO TO CLASSES, AND 19 YOU DON'T SEE ANYONE THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU. WHEN THE 20 TEACHER CAN'T UNDERSTAND OR RELATE TO WHERE YOU ARE COMING 21 FROM, TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE, TO SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS 22 SOMETHING THAT'S FOR YOU, AND THAT IS GOING TO HELP YOU IN 23 THE FUTURE AND SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO. 24 SO I WOULD JUST ASK THE BOARD TO MOST DEFINITELY 25 DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA THAT IS APRIL 26, 2012 203 1 IN THAT BLUEPRINT CHANGES FAST, QUICKLY BECAUSE STUDENTS 2 ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF IT. IT LOWERS THE QUALITY OF 3 EDUCATION THAT STUDENTS RECEIVE AT CITY COLLEGE. 4 AND I LOVE CITY COLLEGE. IT WAS MOST DEFINITELY 5 ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT EXPERIENCES I HAD IN MY LIFE 6 ATTENDING CITY COLLEGE. SO I JUST WANT THE BOARD TO 7 UNDERSTAND AND TO KNOW THAT YOUR ACTIONS CAN CHANGE THIS 8 AND CAN IMPROVE THIS SITUATION AND MAKE SURE THAT THE 9 FACULTY REFLECTS THE STUDENTS AND ALL THE STUDENTS CAN SEE 10 THEMSELVES REFLECTED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TEACHING THEIR 11 COURSES. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 JESSICA WILLIAMS. 14 MS. WILLIAMS: OKAY. HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS 15 JESSICA WILLIAMS. AND I AM IN CHARGE OF THE FACULTY 16 DIVERSITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM IN THE GROW YOUR OWN PROGRAM 17 HERE ON CAMPUS. 18 SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS BOARD TONIGHT TO 19 KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT AND TO THE PROCESS 20 THAT LEAD UP TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. I THINK THERE'S A LOT 21 OF CONFUSION OUT THERE ABOUT SORT OF HOW DID WE GET TO 22 WHERE WE ARE TODAY? 23 SO AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IN FEBRUARY THERE WAS A 24 RESOLUTION PASSED THAT REQUESTED THE CHANCELLOR TO DEVELOP 25 A BLUEPRINT ON HOW TO INCREASE ISSUES -- I'M SORRY -- APRIL 26, 2012 204 1 INCREASE FACULTY DIVERSITY AND TO MOVE FORWARD. AND HE 2 WAS GIVEN A TWO MONTH TIMELINE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT 3 BLUEPRINT. 4 SO I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS DOWN 5 THE LINE, THE CHANCELLOR INVITED A GROUP OF CONSTITUENTS 6 FROM THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS. IT WASN'T A HUGE GROUP. I 7 THINK THERE WAS ABOUT SIX PEOPLE ON THE GROUP AND TO 8 DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS TO GO 9 INTO THE BLUEPRINT. 10 THE GROUP I THINK WAS VERY REFLECTIVE OF THE 11 DIFFERENT GROUPS ON THE CAMPUS. EVERY ETHNIC GROUP WAS 12 THERE. WE HAD FOLKS FROM ADMINISTRATION, CLASSIFIED, 13 FACULTY, FOLKS FROM CREDIT, FOLKS FROM NONCREDIT. AND 14 FOLKS CAME TOGETHER AND DEVELOPED THESE RECOMMENDATIONS 15 WHICH WERE THE LAST TWO PAGES OF WHAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE 16 BLUEPRINT. 17 ABOUT A WEEK AGO, THE CHANCELLOR SENT OUT AN 18 E-MAIL TO SOME FOLKS THAT WERE BOTH PART OF THE BLUEPRINT 19 AND NOT TO KIND OF START COMING UP WITH SOME EQUITY TASK 20 FORCES TO WORK ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE ISSUES. 21 THESE GROUPS HAVE NOT YET BEEN SET UP. THE 22 GROUPS MET LAST WEEK. AND THE POINT OF THE MEETING WAS 23 MOSTLY TO KIND OF COME UP WITH HOW WE WERE GOING TO PUT 24 OUT AN OPEN CALL AND THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DEVELOP THE 25 GROUPS. SOME DIFFERENT FOLKS CAME AND SOME IDEAS WERE -- APRIL 26, 2012 205 1 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 2 MS. WILLIAMS: -- ARRIVED AT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 MS. WILLIAMS: ALL RIGHT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LINDY MCKNIGHT. 6 VCSD MCKNIGHT: I WILL CONTINUE WHERE SHE LEFT 7 OFF. 8 YEAH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD KNEW 9 THAT THE CHANCELLOR HAD SET UP THESE TWO EQUITY TASK 10 FORCES TO TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION. 11 ONE IS DEALING WITH DEPARTMENT CHAIRS AND SCHOOL 12 IMPLEMENTATION. THE OTHER WITH ADMINISTRATIVE 13 IMPLEMENTATION. 14 GOHAR IN THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE IS GOING TO 15 SEND AN E-MAIL OUT NEXT WEEK. WE WANT WIDE PARTICIPATION. 16 IT'S OPEN. AND IT'S MEANT TO BE INCLUSIVE OF EVERYONE TO 17 HELP FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THIS BLUEPRINT. 18 AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE I KNOW 19 PEOPLE GET DEFENSIVE. IT IS VERY HARD TO TALK ABOUT RACE, 20 BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE A LARGE GROUP OF 21 APPLICANTS. THEY ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY PEOPLE OF COLOR 22 WHO DO NOT EVEN MAKE IT THROUGH TO THE SCREENING. THERE'S 23 SOMETHING THAT IS BLOCKING THEM EVEN GETTING THROUGH. 24 AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO INCREASE 25 THE POOL. THIS ISN'T A QUOTA SYSTEM. WE ARE JUST SAYING, APRIL 26, 2012 206 1 WE WANT TO INCREASE THE POOL. THE LARGER THE POOL, THE 2 BIGGER THE NET. THE MORE DIVERSITY, AND THE MORE 3 EXCELLENT THE CANDIDATES. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO 4 DO. 5 THE CHANCELLOR SAID IT MANY TIMES, DIVERSITY 6 EQUALS EXCELLENCE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 FRANCINE PODENSKI. 9 MS. PODENSKI: I ATTENDED ONE OF THE WORKGROUPS 10 LAST WEEK. AND ACTUALLY, WE HAD A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE 11 DISCUSSION. AND I CAN SHARE VERY ROUGH DRAFT NOTES. 12 THESE ARE NOT APPROVED NOTES, BUT PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN SOME 13 INPUT. AND I WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU AFTER I SPEAK. 14 MY CONCERN IS REALLY ABOUT THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE 15 I DO THINK IT NEEDS SOME MORE WORK. AND I DO THINK IT 16 SHOULD GO THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE. BUT MY MAIN CONCERN 17 ABOUT THE DOCUMENT IS THAT I'VE KNOWN CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN 18 FOR MANY YEARS AND WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH HIM, 19 ESPECIALLY IN BUDGET ISSUES. HE IS BRILLIANT AT 20 MATHEMATICS, BRILLIANT AT DATA ANALYSIS. AND HE IS VERY 21 MUCH INTO DETAILS AROUND THOSE NUMBERS. 22 THE DOCUMENT THAT I SEE HERE, DOESN'T REFLECT 23 HIS WORK. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DATA ERRORS. THERE ARE 24 DIVERSE -- ONE DIVERSE GROUP LEFT PRETTY MUCH OUT OF THE 25 DOCUMENT, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS IN A RUSH AND PEOPLE APRIL 26, 2012 207 1 WEREN'T THINKING ABOUT THAT. 2 THERE IS I THINK A -- THE TONE OF THE DOCUMENT 3 COULD BE MUCH MORE COLLEGIAL THAN IT CURRENTLY IS AND 4 THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WORKING ON IT TRYING TO MAYBE 5 BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING TONIGHT, ENCOURAGE A NEXT DRAFT. 6 BUT EVERY TIME WE WOULD BRING THIS UP WITH PEOPLE AND 7 SUGGEST IT, WE WERE TOLD, IT'S THE CHANCELLOR'S DOCUMENT. 8 WE CAN'T CHANGE THE NARRATIVE. 9 SO I DO THINK THE NARRATIVE DOES NEED TO BE 10 REVIEWED. I THINK IT HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED BY THE 11 DIVERSITY COMMITTEE, AND IT'S A DIVERSITY DOCUMENT. I 12 THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO 13 BE SOME OPEN DISCUSSION AND PEOPLE COMING FROM DIFFERENT 14 CONSTITUENT GROUPS AND DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS TO MAKE 15 SURE THAT THEY FEEL RECOGNIZED IN THE DOCUMENT. 16 I JUST THINK IT NEEDS SOME MORE WORK. 17 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 MS. PODENSKI: THAT'S WHAT I THINK. AND I WOULD 20 LIKE THIS ENTERED -- MY 150 WORDS ENTERED INTO THE 21 MINUTES. 22 WHO DO I GIVE THAT TO? 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COUNSEL. 24 SEAN -- I CAN'T READ THIS. 25 MR. HOVLIHAN: HOVLIHAN? APRIL 26, 2012 208 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 2 MR. HOVLIHAN: THERE YOU GO. THAT'S ME. 3 ALL RIGHT. HELLO, EVERYBODY. 4 I HAD TO SPEAK WHEN I SAW THIS ISSUE COME UP. 5 MY MAIN POINT THAT I WANT TO GET ACROSS IS I WOULD LIKE TO 6 SEE CITY COLLEGE DO MORE OUTREACH TO NATIVE AMERICANS, 7 EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY LIKE SOMETHING LIKE 1 PERCENT OF 8 THE POPULATION OF THIS COUNTRY NATIONWIDE. THAT DOES NOT 9 MEAN WE ARE NOT STILL HERE. AND THIS IS OUR COUNTRY. AND 10 YOU ARE ALL GUESTS HERE. 11 AND SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME NATIVE 12 AMERICAN SERVICES, NATIVE AMERICAN STUDENT SERVICES BE 13 OFFERED. 14 I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE STUDENT SERVICES 15 AVAILABLE FOR EVERY ETHNIC GROUP ASIDE FROM NATIVE 16 AMERICANS. THERE IS NOT A NATIVE AMERICANS STUDIES 17 PROGRAM AT THE SCHOOL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. AND 18 I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE MORE THINGS 19 LIKE, YOU KNOW, NATIVE AMERICAN STUDENTS SERVICES, NATIVE 20 AMERICAN STUDIES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN MAKE A MURAL WITH 21 SOME INDIANS ON IT, MAYBE YOU COULD NAME SOME PART OF THE 22 SCHOOL OR SOMETHING AFTER A FAMOUS INDIAN WITH THE 23 PERMISSION OF THEIR TRIBE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT JUST SO WE 24 ARE MORE INCLUDED, AND SO PEOPLE REMEMBER WHERE THEY ARE. 25 YOU KNOW, WHOSE COUNTRY THEY ARE IN. APRIL 26, 2012 209 1 AND WE ARE STILL HERE AS PEOPLE. AND WE HAVE 2 NOT DISAPPEARED. AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO DISAPPEAR AND, 3 YOU KNOW, WE ARE INTELLECTUALS JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE. 4 AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT OUR VOICE TO BE HEARD AS THE 5 PEOPLE. WE ARE ALREADY LEFT OUT OF THE MEDIA. YOU KNOW, 6 WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL NEWS, YOU NEVER SEE ANY NEWS 7 STORIES ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS HAPPENING FOR NATIVE 8 AMERICANS, WHICH THERE ARE PLENTY OF. 9 WE STILL EXPERIENCE HATE CRIMES, STILL STEALING 10 OUR LAND, STEALING OUR RESOURCES, KILLING OUR PEOPLE. 11 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 12 MR. HOVLIHAN: AND SO -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 14 MR. HOVLIHAN: I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO JUST 15 REMEMBER WHERE YOU ARE. THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 17 FOLKS IT IS 12:20. AND I KEEP GETTING MORE AND 18 MORE CARDS. WE DO HAVE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE 19 MUST PASS. IF YOU REALLY NEED TO SPEAK OR IF YOU COULD 20 SAY SOMETHING IN A SHORTER AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE 21 APPRECIATED. 22 WILLIAM WALKER. 23 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: HE IS NOT HERE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, HE IS NOT HERE. 25 CARMEN LAMHA. APRIL 26, 2012 210 1 MR. WALKER: I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF, BUT THIS IS 2 A PRETTY IMPORTANT TOPIC. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. 4 MR. WALKER: MY NAME IS WILLIAM WALKER. AND I 5 APPRECIATE YOUR ALLOWING FOLKS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 6 I WANT TO ECHO WHAT KEVIN BOGGESS JUST SAID. I 7 DEFINITELY WAS MENTORED BY A NUMBER OF AFRICAN AMERICAN 8 INSTRUCTORS AT THIS SCHOOL. GLENN NANCE; TYRIQUE FRIER 9 (PHONETIC), WHO IS ACTUALLY STILL AT THE SCHOOL; JESSICA 10 NELSON-LUNDY; MR. WHITEHEAD IN THE ECONOMICS DEPARTMENT. 11 THESE ARE ALL MENTORS FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE AFRICAN 12 AMERICAN. 13 AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THESE INSTRUCTORS ARE 14 THEY ARE ALWAYS HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE. THEY ALWAYS CHECK 15 IN WITH ME. I ACTUALLY NEVER TOOK CLASSES FROM ANY OF 16 THESE INSTRUCTORS, BUT THEY ALL KNEW WHO I WAS, AND THEY 17 ALL KNEW WHAT I WAS UP TO. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT 18 STUDENTS COMING INTO CITY COLLEGE HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE 19 WHERE YOU CAN -- JUST AS THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE. 20 HE FEELS THAT AREN'T -- THERE ISN'T ENOUGH NATIVE AMERICAN 21 REPRESENTATION. WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE REPRESENTATION 22 FOR ALL DIFFERENT GROUPS AT CITY COLLEGE. THIS SCHOOL IS 23 LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. 24 I WILL ALSO ADD THAT THE CORRELATION TO THE FACT 25 THAT THESE GROUPS ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE STAFF DON'T APRIL 26, 2012 211 1 NECESSARILY MAKE IT THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS. THESE ARE 2 THE SAME GROUPS THAT DON'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE RETENTION 3 LEVELS AT OUR SCHOOL. SO IT'S SYSTEMIC THAT -- AND IT'S 4 SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT BOTH AT THE LEVEL OF THE 5 LAST ITEM THAT WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME LOOKING AT 6 PLACEMENT ISSUES. IT SEEMS TO BE THE SAME TREND, AND WE 7 NEED TO ANALYZE WHY THAT IS. 8 LASTLY, I'M THE STUDENT SHARED GOVERNANCE 9 COORDINATOR FOR THE COLLEGE. SO I FIND THAT WHEN YOU GUYS 10 SPEAK ABOUT SHARED GOVERNANCE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WELL, DO 11 WE HAVE TO SEND IT THERE? 12 IT'S ONE PLACE THAT YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THIS 13 DISCUSSION SO WE THAT DON'T HAVE FIVE-HOUR MEETINGS. ALL 14 OF THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS ARE REPRESENTED THERE, AND WE 15 WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS PARSING OF ITEMS AND WORDSMITHING 16 AT THE MEETINGS. IT COULD BE DONE IN A PROCESS. AND IF 17 WE HELD SHARED GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABLE TO HOLDING MEETINGS 18 RATHER THAN A LOT OF COMMITTEES THAT ARE NOT MEETING ON A 19 REGULAR BASIS WE'D HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WORKS, SO I HOPE YOU 20 CONSIDER ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CARMEN LAMHA. 22 MS. LAMHA: THIS STUDY HAS NO CONCERNS WITH 23 FEMALES. I READ HERE THAT 41 PERCENT OF FEMALES IN STEM. 24 I DON'T SEE THEM. I DON'T SEE THEM IN THE SCIENCE 25 BUILDING. IT'S JUST TOTALLY DISREGARDED. APRIL 26, 2012 212 1 THERE'S NO MENTION TO FEMALES HERE OTHER THAN 2 THERE ARE 41 PERCENT IN STEM. AND I DON'T SEE THEM. THEY 3 ARE NOT THERE. THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THIS. FEMALES 4 AND NON TRADITIONAL JOBS. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 RICK CANTORA. 7 MR. CANTORA: I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS 8 THAT NATIVE AMERICAN REPRESENTATION IS SOMETHING WE 9 DEFINITELY NEED MORE OF HERE AT CITY COLLEGE, AFRICAN 10 AMERICANS, ASIAN AMERICANS. 11 AND I WANT TO SAY THAT AS JUST TO BRING LIGHT TO 12 THE FACT THAT IT SHOULDN'T ALWAYS JUST BE PEOPLE FROM 13 THOSE GROUPS THAT ARE UP HERE ADVOCATING FOR THAT, LIKE 14 THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS COLLEGE. THAT WE ONLY JUST 15 TRY TO FIGHT FOR OUR OWN GROUPS, AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF 16 THAT. LIKE, OKAY, I MIGHT NOT BE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY, 17 BUT I STILL SEE A VALUE IN DIVERSITY. AND I THINK THAT'S 18 WHEN WE'VE REALLY COME TO A POINT WHERE DIVERSITY MATTERS 19 TO US AS A COLLEGE WHEN IT'S NOT JUST OUR GROUP OR, YOU 20 KNOW, US OR THEM TYPE OF THING. AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT 21 THAT BECAUSE IT'S LATE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 23 JUAN -- 24 MR. SEGUDO: SEGUDO. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SEGUDO, I COULDN'T READ IT. APRIL 26, 2012 213 1 MR. SEGUDO: SO I JUST WANT TO ECHO WITH LIKE 2 WHAT PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE SAID, ESPECIALLY LIKE, RICK. 3 THE ONE THING I KIND OF HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS 4 LIKE DIVERSITY IN MATH, ESPECIALLY AMONG THE LATINO 5 COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF DISCOURAGING FOR 6 SOME STUDENTS TO TRY TO GO TO A MATH CLASS WHERE THEY 7 DON'T SEE ANYONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THEM. 8 ALSO IN THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT, LIKE, THERE'S NO 9 DIVERSITY FOR LATINOS AND ALSO ASIAN INSTRUCTORS WHICH IS 10 SOMETHING TO TAKE NOTE OF. AND THERE'S NO DIVERSITY IN 11 ENGLISH AND MATH FOR PRETTY MUCH ANY OTHER MINORITY. I 12 MEAN WE NEED DIVERSITY, AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW. 13 IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 14 RETENTION CENTERS, SUCH AS EXAMPLE LSN AND A LOT OF THE 15 ENGLISH INSTRUCTORS THAT TEACH FOR THOSE RETENTION 16 PROGRAMS AREN'T EVEN OF THAT, YOU KNOW, RETENTION. LIKE A 17 LOT OF THEM ARE LATINOS -- I MEAN WHITES. THERE'S NOTHING 18 WRONG WITH THAT, BUT IF YOU GUYS ARE TEACHING A RETENTION 19 PROGRAM, WHY DON'T YOU GUYS HAVE LIKE A TEACHER THAT 20 HAS -- THAT TEACHES LATINO STUDIES OR AN ENGLISH CLASS 21 THAT HAS FOCUS -- THAT HAS A LATINO TEACHER. I'M SORRY. 22 I AM GETTING KIND OF NERVOUS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S OKAY. 24 MR. SEGUDO: YOU GUYS GET THE MESSAGE. WE JUST 25 NEED DIVERSITY ALL ACROSS THE BOARD. ALL ETHNIC APRIL 26, 2012 214 1 BACKGROUNDS AND ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE, YEP. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: VERONICA GARCIA. 3 MS. GARCIA: HI. MY MINE IS NOT VERY LONG 4 EITHER. 5 SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE IMPORTANCE OF 6 DIVERSITY. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF EMPHASIZE THAT BASED ON MY 7 OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. 8 SO AS YOU KNOW, AND AS I'VE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, 9 YOU KNOW, AT THESE MEETINGS. I HAVE BEEN AT CITY COLLEGE 10 ALMOST FOUR YEARS. SO OUT OF THE 32 CLASSES, MORE OR LESS 11 THAT I'VE TAKEN AT CITY COLLEGE NOT INCLUDING SUMMER, I'VE 12 NEVER HAD A WOMAN AFRICAN AMERICAN OR LATINA TEACHER, AND 13 SO THAT SPEAKS VERY LOUDLY TO ME, OBVIOUSLY, IN A NEGATIVE 14 WAY BECAUSE I FEEL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT RETURNING TO CITY 15 COLLEGE TO WORK AFTER I OBTAIN MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE. 16 AND IT'S NOT VERY MOTIVATIONAL OR INSPIRING TO 17 NOT SEE PEOPLE OF COLOR, SPECIFICALLY WOMEN, YOU KNOW, UP 18 THERE TEACHING. AND IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, AND IT 19 DOESN'T ONLY AFFECT ME, BUT IT ALSO AFFECTS OTHER 20 STUDENTS. 21 AND SO THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY 22 IS THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT COLLEGIALITY, BUT WHAT IS 23 COLLEGIAL ABOUT 29 PERCENT OF STEM FACULTY BEING PEOPLE OF 24 COLOR AND 27 PERCENT OF THE GOLDEN FOUR FACULTY BEING 25 PEOPLE OF COLOR? THANK YOU. APRIL 26, 2012 215 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CARLOS MARTINEZ. 2 MR. MARTINEZ: I'M HERE. 3 HELLO, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CARLOS MARTINEZ. 4 AND I WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS BEHALF BECAUSE IT'S 5 REAL IMPORTANT AS A STUDENT OF COLOR, AS A LATINO, ALL OF 6 MY CLASSES THAT I'VE TAKEN AT CITY COLLEGE, I ONLY HAD ONE 7 TEACHER, ACTUALLY TWO TEACHERS THAT WERE LATINOS THAT 8 LOOKED LIKE ME. YOU KNOW, I COULD RELATE TO THEM. AND IT 9 WAS THE LATIN AMERICAN STUDIES, THE LATIN AMERICAN STUDIES 10 DEPARTMENT. SO I DIDN'T HAVE A TEACHER FROM, YOU KNOW, 11 MATH, ENGLISH, NOR SCIENCE DEPARTMENT. 12 AND ANOTHER THING THAT IS REALLY -- I THINK IT'S 13 REALLY MESSED UP THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FULL-TIME INSTRUCTOR 14 FOR PACIFIC ISLANDER STUDIES. THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL. WE 15 ARE BEING RACIST AGAINST THIS COMMUNITY, AGAINST THE 16 STUDENTS THAT ARE BEING UNDERREPRESENTED, AGAINST STUDENTS 17 THAT WANT A TEACHER, A FULL-TIME TEACHER THAT LOOKS LIKE 18 THEM THAT CAN TEACH THEM THEIR CULTURE, THEIR VALUE. 19 I THINK WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED AS AN INSTITUTION. 20 YOU KNOW, WE SERVE MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, ETHNICITIES, 21 AFRICAN AMERICAN, PACIFIC ISLANDERS, FILIPINOS, LATINOS, 22 AND WE DON'T HAVE A FULL-TIME TEACHER FOR PACIFIC ISLANDER 23 STUDIES, LIKE REALLY? LIKE REALLY, BRO? THAT IS NOT -- I 24 DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW CITY COLLEGE SHOULD ROLL, YOU KNOW. 25 PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. COME ON GUYS, REALLY? APRIL 26, 2012 216 1 SO PLEASE, STOP BEING RACIST AND OFFER A 2 FULL-TIME POSITION FOR PACIFIC ISLANDER STUDIES. THANK 3 YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS CARLOS MARTINEZ. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHRISSY LEUMA. 5 MARJORY RUIZ. 6 MS. LEUMA: HI, I'M CHRISSY. AND I WANTED TO 7 ECHO -- THANK YOU, CARLOS, FOR ADDRESSING THAT BECAUSE I 8 SEE THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION 9 AND HISTORY WHEN COMES TO -- WHEN I STARTED HERE AT CITY 10 COLLEGE BECAUSE BEFORE I STARTED DOING THE ADVOCACY AND 11 STUFF LIKE THAT, I WAS VERY MOTIVATED TO GO TO DIFFERENT 12 CLASSES. I TOOK ASIAN 20, AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES, YOU 13 KNOW, DIFFERENT LATINO STUDIES, ESPECIALLY MUSIC, RIGHT. 14 BUT IT QUESTIONS MY -- IT QUESTIONS ME JUST TO 15 LOOK AT WHERE DOES MY FOLKS COME IN? YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN 16 WE BRING TO THE TABLE? WE CAN OFFER LANGUAGE. I'M 17 SAMOAN. I SPEAK IT FLUENTLY. I WANT TO COME BACK AND 18 TEACH THAT IF YOU GUYS CAN OFFER THAT, RIGHT. 19 AND HAVING ONE PACIFIC ISLANDER INSTRUCTOR TO 20 HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF PACIFIC ISLANDER STUDENTS. 21 AND WE SEE THEM DISAPPEAR BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET MOTIVATED 22 TO BE HERE. AND I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT, YOU 23 KNOW. AND ADVOCATING FOR THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND WE 24 WANT TO SEE THAT, RIGHT. 25 WE HAVE BEEN HOUSED UNDER APASS. WE'VE SEEN APRIL 26, 2012 217 1 STUDENTS GO IN AND OUT WITH APASS. WE HAVE BEEN USING UP 2 ESCUBE (PHONETIC) AS A RESOURCE, BUT THERE'S NEVER A 3 CENTER FOR US EVEN TULAY, RIGHT. 4 SO IT QUESTIONS THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO. AND 5 I ECHO THE BLUEPRINT. WE NEED DIVERSITY IN ALL 6 COMMUNITIES. EVERYTHING, NOT JUST ONE INSTRUCTIONAL 7 PACIFIC ISLANDER STUDY TEACHER. WE NEED COUNSELORS. 8 WHERE COULD WE GET WITH ED PLANS, RIGHT. WE NEED TO GET 9 OUT OF SCHOOL. WE DON'T NEED FOUR YEARS OF EDUCATION IN 10 OUR SYSTEM. WE NEED TWO. THIS IS A TWO-YEAR INSTITUTION. 11 WE WANT THAT, SO THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MARJORIE RUIZ. 13 MS. RUIZ: OKAY, GOOD MORNING. I WILL BE VERY 14 BRIEF. 15 SO JUST TO FOLLOW AND YOU LEFT -- YOU KNOW, TO 16 START WITH WHERE SHE LEFT OFF. WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE ARE 17 WE SENDING PACIFIC ISLANDER STUDENTS WHEN THEY WALK INTO 18 TULAY, AND THEY FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE ONE PART-TIME 19 COUNSELOR THAT'S THERE ON MONDAYS. WHAT KIND OF RETENTION 20 MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING? YEAH, YES, I AM SARCASTIC AT THIS 21 TIME. 22 SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, AS A STUDENT, I AM BEGGING 23 YOU. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE TIRED, BUT EVERYONE IN THIS 24 ROOM, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT UNDERMINE THE 25 IMPORTANCE OF DIVERSITY. APRIL 26, 2012 218 1 IN ALL OF MY TIME HERE, I HAVE NEVER HAD A 2 LATINA WOMAN OF COLOR AS A TEACHER. I HAVE NEVER HAD AN 3 AFRICAN-AMERICAN TEACHER IN ALL OF MY TIME HERE. AND I 4 HAVE BEEN UP AND DOWN THE COURSE CATALOG. I HAVE. 5 SO PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT REPEAT WHAT HAPPENED 6 EARLIER THIS DEBACLE BETWEEN FACULTY AND STUDENTS. YOU 7 KNOW, WE ARE NOT THE ENEMY. WE ARE TELLING YOU WHAT WE 8 NEED. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO YOUR BEST TO SET ASIDE 9 THE POLITICS AND JUST DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO IMPLEMENT 10 DIVERSITY. PLEASE AND THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALISA MESSER. 12 MS. MESSER: ALISA MESSER, AFT 2121. IT'S LATE. 13 I WILL TRY TO BE QUICK. 14 WE ARE -- THERE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS HERE FOR 15 IMPROVEMENTS AND IN TERMS OF HIRING. AND I THINK SINCE 16 THIS BLUEPRINT HAS COME OUT ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, 17 TWO WEEKS AGO. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON 18 CAMPUS ABOUT WHAT'S MISSING, THINGS WE CAN IMPROVE, THINGS 19 WE CAN INCLUDE IN THE DOCUMENT. 20 I ALSO HEAR PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY HAVE IDEAS 21 TO ADD ABOUT WHAT TO IMPLEMENT. AND I HEAR THAT THERE MAY 22 BE -- I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE WERE WORKGROUPS THAT 23 STARTED LAST WEEK. WE'VE HAD TIME TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF 24 A DISCUSSION IN AFT 2121. OUR EXECUTIVE BOARD LOOKED AT 25 THIS. WE HAD JESSICA WILLIAMS. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO APRIL 26, 2012 219 1 OUR DELEGATE ASSEMBLY MEETING THE OTHER DAY. 2 AND THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN THE UNION IN SEEING 3 THIS MOVE FORWARD, BOTH FOR THE SAKE OF PART-TIME FACULTY 4 AND FULL-TIME FACULTY. WE SUPPORT AN INCLUSIVE -- WE 5 SUPPORT AN INCLUSIVE FACULTY AND A DIVERSE FACULTY. AND 6 WE CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE THOSE THINGS MOVE FORWARD. 7 I THINK I HEAR AN AGREEMENT IN THE ROOM THAT 8 THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS. AND THAT 9 IF MORE PEOPLE WORK ON IT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. 10 SO I HOPE WE START TO IMPLEMENT THE PIECES THAT 11 CAN BE IMPLEMENTED OR THAT ARE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED AND 12 CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WE DESERVE 13 AND SHOULD HAVE AN EXCELLENT AND INCREASINGLY DIVERSE 14 FACULTY. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 16 I'M SORRY. CAN YOU COME UP? I DIDN'T CATCH 17 YOUR NAME PATRICIA. 18 MS. MITCHELL: GOOD EVENING, MORNING. MY NAME 19 IS PATRICIA MITCHELL. AND I AM AN ESL INSTRUCTOR. AND I 20 HAVE BEEN ONE FOR 37 YEARS. AND I HAVE BEEN AT CITY 21 COLLEGE SINCE 1989. AND THIS IS VERY SERIOUS THIS 22 BLUEPRINT PLAN. 23 AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING FOUR COMMUNITIES, 24 FOUR ORGANIZATIONS AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. WE ARE 25 TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY. WE'RE PREPARED TO HAVE A TOWN APRIL 26, 2012 220 1 HALL MEETING BECAUSE THE NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. 2 AND I WANT TO SAY THAT AS AN INSTRUCTOR, 3 OFTENTIMES MY STUDENTS, THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PERSON, 4 THEY HAVE EVER SPOKEN TO IS ME. AND SO THAT MEANS 30 5 WHAT, 37 YEARS TEACHING ESL HAVING ROOMFULS OF STUDENTS 6 THAT -- AND I AM THE FIRST BLACK PERSON THEY'VE SPOKEN TO. 7 AND THEY ARE SO RECEPTIVE TO THAT AFTER WE DEAL WITH 8 BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE RACISM THAT THEY'VE 9 LEARNED, AND THAT THEY'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO IN THIS COUNTRY 10 UPON COMING HERE AS IMMIGRANTS, YOU KNOW. 11 AND THE THINGS THAT WE COVER, THE TOPICS THAT WE 12 COVER IN THE CLASSROOM ARE THINGS THAT ARE AUTHENTIC 13 VOICES. AND WHEN THERE ARE AUTHENTIC VOICES, YOU ARE 14 TALKING ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT. YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE 15 ENROLLMENT AND YOU ARE WONDERING WHY THE STUDENTS ARE 16 GOING. 17 I MEAN WE'RE COMPETING WITH TECHNOLOGY. YOU 18 CAN'T HAVE SOME LITTLE SQUARE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE 19 WORD, BUT YOU NEED MORE CULTURE. YOU NEED MORE DIVERSITY. 20 I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I STAND OUTSIDE 21 THIS BUILDING CRYING BECAUSE I HAVE TO COME INTO THE 22 MEETING, BEING THE ONLY BLACK PERSON IN THE MEETING, YOU 23 KNOW, AND BEING DISREGARDED AND DISRESPECTED. AND I CAN 24 ONLY HAVE MY FAMILY HERE TO TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT I'VE 25 GONE THROUGH, MY CHILDREN, AND MY HUSBAND. MY FAMILY CAN APRIL 26, 2012 221 1 EXPLAIN TO YOU MY EXPERIENCES HERE. AND I WAS BORN HERE. 2 THIS IS WHERE I WAS BORN. RIGHT HERE. SO YEAH -- 3 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 LANCELOT KAO. 6 MR. KAO: OKAY. I REPRESENT YOUTH GROUPS TOO IN 7 A CERTAIN WAY. I, OF COURSE, MENTIONED THAT DEPARTMENT 8 CHAIR OF ASTRONOMY. THERE'S A CERTAIN PART RELATED TO 9 HIRING ASPECT IN TERMS OF THE POOL OF APPLICANTS. 10 I AGREE ON THE STATISTICS ABOUT LOW STATISTICS 11 ON AFRICAN AMERICAN OR NATIVE AMERICANS. ACTUALLY, IN MY 12 PROFESSION NATIONALLY IN THE US, ABOUT ONLY FIVE NATIVE 13 AMERICANS ASTRONOMERS. AND, OF COURSE, THOSE FIVE OF THEM 14 ARE IN THE BIG NAME SCHOOL. WHEN THEY GRADUATE, THEY ARE 15 GONE. MAYBE LESS THAN 20 NATIVE AMERICANS. 16 THE ISSUE IS SOMETIMES IN DISCIPLINE DEPENDENTS 17 ABOUT THE POOL OF FACULTY THEY WE CAN FIND. AND NOW, OF 18 COURSE, THOSE PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL, THEY 19 ACTUALLY GO THROUGH OUR HIRING PROCESS WILL RANK REAL HIGH 20 FOR SURE, EVEN WITHOUT LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS BECAUSE 21 THEY ARE ACHIEVING. 22 I THINK THE DIVERSITY ISSUE IS THE NEW THING 23 ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE COLLEGE STUDENT? 24 WHEN I WAS A STUDENT HERE IN '83-'85, MY 25 DEPARTMENT HAD NO ASIAN AT ALL. I WAS THE FIRST FACULTY APRIL 26, 2012 222 1 TO HIRE OVER 30 YEARS OF THE DEPARTMENT. AND IN FACT, IN 2 1997, THE STATISTIC IN THE HR ABOUT ETHNIC GROUPS IN 3 FULL-TIME HIRING THAT YEAR. BEFORE FULL-TIME FACULTY 4 HIRE, I AM THE ONLY ASIAN HIRED IN THAT POOL. 5 THE POINT HERE I AM SAYING ABOUT THOSE STUDENTS, 6 SOMETIMES WHEN WE LOOK AT FACULTY ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE A 7 ROLE MODEL, YOU'D BE SURPRISED SOME OF THEM MIGHT NOT BE 8 YOUR OWN ETHNIC DISCIPLINE OR GROUP THINGS. THEY ACTUALLY 9 UNDERSTAND YOUR PAST. YOU ARE ALSO ABLE TO OPEN UP 10 YOURSELF. 11 AND ALSO SOMETIMES AS ME, I'M ASIAN, I'M ALSO A 12 GAY MAN TOO. AND ALSO, YOU CAN SEE MY ACCENT. I AM 13 FOREIGN BORN. SO YOU THINK ABOUT DIVERSITY, IT'S A REAL 14 COMPLICATED ISSUE ITSELF. AND I THINK THE THING ABOUT 15 WHEN IMPLEMENT ANYTHING ABOUT POLICY, I THINK THE DIALOGUE 16 IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUSIVE TO EVERYBODY AND 17 SEE IT A DIFFERENT WAY AND ALSO MAY NOT ONE POLICY FIT 18 EVERY DEPARTMENT. 19 MANY OF THE TENTACLE HIRING ASPECT OF OUR 20 PRACTICE, EVERY DEPARTMENT DO THAT. I ALSO DO MONITORING 21 WITH THE HIRING -- 22 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 23 MR. KAO: -- FOR THE COLLEGE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 MR. KAO: THANK YOU. APRIL 26, 2012 223 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. IF 2 YOU ARE PARKED ON GOUGH STREET, THERE IS NOW CURRENTLY 3 STREET CLEANING FROM 12:00 TO 6:00. AND IF YOU ARE PARKED 4 THERE, YOU MAY GET TICKETED. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER, DO YOU WANT TO -- 6 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WELL, I THINK WE HAD 7 ANOTHER SPEAKER. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THERE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: EMBOLA WAS HERE AS WELL. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DID YOU PUT IN A CARD? 11 MS. WYNN: INGRID WYNN. 12 THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION ABOUT 13 DIVERSITY, AND IT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT IF I DIDN'T, IT'S 14 IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COME FROM SPECIFIC CULTURES 15 AND YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT YOUR ETHNICITY, YOUR 16 RACE, OR LEARN ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE'S CULTURE. AND THAT'S 17 ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT SHOULD BE OPEN. THE BLUEPRINT 18 SHOULD BE CHANGED. THE HIRING PROCESS SHOULD BE CHANGED 19 AS FAR AS WHO AND WHAT WE ARE OPENING THE DOOR TO. 20 I LEARNED FROM DR. DENNIS. HE USED TO BE A 21 TEACHER HERE. HE WAS MURDERED. BUT WHAT I LEARNED FROM 22 HIM WAS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE YOUR WEAKEST LINK WHEN YOU 23 DON'T KNOW WHO YOU WERE AS A PERSON OR WHERE YOU CAME 24 FROM. 25 WHAT I LEARNED FROM KAVEKA'S CLASS, HE IS THE APRIL 26, 2012 224 1 INSTRUCTOR THAT WE WAS TALKING ABOUT. WE ALL COME -- 2 WELL, FOR PACIFIC ISLANDERS, WE COME FROM THE OCEAN. AND 3 THAT'S WHAT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND THAT'S WHAT 4 BRINGS THE ISLANDS TOGETHER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALL SHARE 5 ACROSS THE BOARD. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE OTHER PEOPLE AS 6 BEING DIFFERENT OR A DIFFERENT COLLAR. 7 WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT ME, THE FIRST THING THEY 8 AUTOMATICALLY SAY IS SHE'S BLACK. AND I HATE THAT BECAUSE 9 MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS WE ALL ARE -- WE SHADE. WE ARE 10 VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE FAIREST AND I AM THE DARKEST. 11 SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO 12 OTHER PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANT TO JUDGE YOU. DO YOU HAVE THE 13 SAME MOM AND DADDY? WELL, YEAH, WE'VE GOT THE SAME MOM 14 AND DAD, BUT WE KNOW WHO WE ARE. 15 SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE AND THEY CLOSED 16 OFF, YOU KNOW, SHAME TO THEM IN WHAT THEY HAVEN'T LEARNED 17 OR WHAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SHARE OUR EXPERIENCE 18 FROM OTHER PEOPLE FROM OTHER CULTURES. AND IT SHOULD BE 19 OPEN TO EVERYBODY, THE INDIANS, HISPANICS, FILIPINOS, 20 LATINOS, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE JUST NEED TO OPEN UP THAT 21 DOOR. 22 AND LIKE, TRUSTEE NGO SAID, OPEN THE DOOR SO WE 23 CAN ALL WALK THROUGH IT. THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? APRIL 26, 2012 225 1 OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 2 WOULD YOU LIKE TO START, VICE PRESIDENT GRIER? 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: ACTUALLY, MINE WAS GOING 4 TO BE IN THE FORM OF AN ADDENDUM TO THE -- IT'S SO LATE -- 5 RESOLUTION. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE JUST 6 WANTED TO MAKE COMMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE 7 RECOMMENDATIONS. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WOULD -- YEAH, I WOULD -- 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: OH, YOU WANT ME -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AT THIS LATE TIME, I THINK I 11 WOULD LOVE TO BE FOCUSSED ON MOVING FORWARD -- 12 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: NOT A PROBLEM. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AND NOT COMMENTING. 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: NOT A PROBLEM. IT WAS 15 REAL IMPORTANT TO PRODUCE THIS DOCUMENT. A LOT OF WORK 16 WENT INTO IT. I THINK THERE WAS A RUSH AS A RESULT OF THE 17 WAY IT CAME TOGETHER, SOME OF THE MISSING ITEMS, NOT 18 ENOUGH DATA, AND I HEARD THIS FROM A LOT OF GROUPS. 19 WHAT I ALSO HEARD FROM GROUPS WAS THAT THEY 20 REALLY WANTED TO HAVE INPUT IN THE PROCESS. AND I TALKED 21 TO TRUSTEE JACKSON. AND I ALSO TALKED TO -- I CAN'T 22 SAY -- JESSICA WILLIAMS. AND SHE SAID THAT'S GOING TO BE 23 OFFERED AS A RESULT OF THE EQUITY GROUP COMING TOGETHER 24 AND REACHING OUT TO ALL THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS SO THAT 25 THEY CAN HAVE INPUT. JESSICA WENT TO MANY OF THE GROUPS, APRIL 26, 2012 226 1 BUT SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO COVER ALL OF THEM. AND SHE IS 2 GOING TO COME BACK TO GROUPS THAT SHE DID GO TO BECAUSE 3 THERE WASN'T THAT INTERACTION OR OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO 4 MAKE COMMENTS. 5 AND FOR THIS MEETING, YOU CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE 6 ENOUGH TIME TO TELL OR TALK ABOUT ALL THE THINGS YOU 7 WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. 8 AND I ALSO REALLY APOLOGIZE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO 9 CAME OUT AND HAD TO LEAVE. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WERE HERE 10 AT SIX O'CLOCK AND IT IS NOW 12:40. AND SO THESE PEOPLE 11 HAD TO LEAVE. AND SO WE REALLY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM 12 AND PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GIVE INPUT BECAUSE 13 THEY WERE HERE. THEY WERE VERY SERIOUS. AND THEY WANTED 14 TO COMMENT ON THE DOCUMENT. 15 I THINK THERE'S A BROAD CONSENSUS THAT IT'S 16 IMPORTANT. IT IS AN IMPORTANT DOCUMENT FOR MANY DIFFERENT 17 REASONS. WE DIDN'T SEARCH AS FAR AS WE NEEDED TO AS FAR 18 AS GETTING THE STATISTICS. BECAUSE OF THIS, THE DIVERSITY 19 THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE REPRESENTED AT 20 THIS COLLEGE. THE DATA IS HERE. THE DATA HAS BEEN KEPT, 21 AND SO WE NEED TO GET THE DATA. WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. 22 YOU NEED TO HAVE INPUT IN IT, AND YOU NEED TO MAKE THE 23 RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT THE STATISTICAL, THE RESEARCH PART, 24 WILL BE EXPANDED. 25 AND THEN ALSO SHARED GOVERNANCE WHICH IS A VERY APRIL 26, 2012 227 1 IMPORTANT PART OF HOW WE OPERATE. YOU WILL ALSO GET THE 2 OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SHARED GOVERNANCE AS WELL. 3 I TOOK COPIOUS NOTES. AND I WILL BE TURNING 4 THOSE OVER TO JESSICA AS WELL. AND THEN I WILL ALSO BE A 5 PART OF THE COMMITTEES AS WE TALK TO ALL THE CONSTITUENT 6 GROUPS BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE GRIER. WE HEARD 9 DR. VERONICA HUNNICUTT TELL US THAT IT NEEDS MORE WORK 10 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE AFRICAN 11 AMERICAN COMMUNITY. WE HEARD FROM MINH-HOA TA WHO SAID, 12 IT NEEDS MORE WORK. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS -- I DON'T 13 REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT SHE SAID, BUT SHE SAID THAT IT NEEDS 14 TO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES FOR HER COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE 15 HEARD FROM CARMEN MURRAY -- I'M SORRY. 16 MS. ROMAN-MURRAY: CARMEN ROMAN-MURRAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ROMAN-MURRAY, IT'S TOO LATE. 18 WHO SAID, IT NEEDS TO INCLUDE SOME OTHER THINGS. 19 MS. ROMAN-MURRAY: (INAUDIBLE.) 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. 21 SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD RESPECT THESE 22 WISHES AND GO BACK AND WORK ON IT SOME MORE. MAKE SURE 23 THESE THINGS ARE IN. AND YOU KNOW -- 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: JOHN, JOHN. I MEAN THE FACT 25 IS IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL WORDS. IT'S ACTUALLY APRIL 26, 2012 228 1 THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, 2 LEAVE ME OUT OF THE DAMN DOCUMENT. I JUST WANT THE 3 RECOMMENDATIONS TO GET PASSED. YOU KNOW -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AREN'T 5 COMPLETE. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: ACTUALLY, NO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S 8 ERRORS IN IT. THERE'S -- 9 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, NO, THE RECOMMENDATIONS 10 ARE FINE. IT'S ACTUALLY THE REPORT, THE DATA THAT PEOPLE 11 WANT FIXED. THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEMSELVES ARE FINE. 12 AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ARGUE THAT OUTREACH 13 AND RECRUITMENT, LIKE, WHAT ERROR IS IN THAT BULLET POINT 14 ABOUT OUTREACH AND RECRUITMENT. WHAT ERROR IS THERE? 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU KNOW, DR. HUNNICUTT KNOWS 16 A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT HER COMMUNITY -- 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: NO, NO, SHE -- DR. HUNNICUTT 18 ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A DISPARITY IN 19 AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THAT THE ACTUAL DATA -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WE JUST NEED MORE -- SHE WOULD 22 LIKE MORE DATA. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I -- 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THIS DOCUMENT HERE IS JUST A 25 FIRST STEP. IT IS NOT THE END, BUT IT'S JUST THE APRIL 26, 2012 229 1 BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT SAYS, "THIS IS THE 3 FINAL" -- 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, CROSS "FINAL" OUT THEN. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- "VERSION." 6 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I? 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, TRUSTEE NGO. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I WASN'T SURE IF TRUSTEE 9 GRIER HAD -- SHE SAID, SHE HAD AN ADDENDUM. IS LIKE AN 10 AMENDMENT OR DID SHE -- 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YEAH, ACTUALLY IT WAS. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT WAS IT? 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: THE AMENDMENT WAS TO 14 RECOMMEND THAT THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS THAT SPOKE, HAD AN 15 OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE INPUT TO THE BLUEPRINT. AND THAT'S 16 DIFFERENT FROM WHAT TRUSTEE JACKSON WAS SAYING. HE WAS 17 SAYING THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS 18 PASSED. I WAS JUST TRYING TO EXPAND ON THE COMMENTS THAT 19 I HEARD HERE, AND ALSO THE COMMENTS I HEARD BEFORE WE EVEN 20 PRESENTED THIS -- 21 TRUSTEE JACKSON: BUT HOW LONG WOULD -- 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: -- BLUE PRINT. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HOW LONG -- 24 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I -- 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HOW LONG -- APRIL 26, 2012 230 1 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I JUST -- 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO GET -- 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (INAUDIBLE). 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. 6 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WE CAN DO A DATE CERTAIN. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. ARE YOU 8 SAYING THAT YOU WANT INPUT AND THEN -- SO YOU ARE ASKING 9 TO TABLE IT OR ARE YOU ASKING TO PASS THE RESOLUTION? 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I AM NOT ASKING TO TABLE 11 IT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO YOU ARE ASKING -- 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I DIDN'T EVEN SAY, 14 "TABLE." 15 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. 16 SO BASICALLY, YOU ARE SAYING YOU WANT TO PROVIDE 17 LANGUAGE WHERE YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO 18 GET MORE INPUT FROM CONSTITUENT GROUPS AND VARIOUS GROUPS, 19 RIGHT? 20 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: WELL, I AM NOT THE 21 MESSENGER, BUT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED TO DO. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 23 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AND IF THE ORIGINATORS OF 24 THE RESOLUTION DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, I MEAN I -- IT'S UP 25 TO THEM. APRIL 26, 2012 231 1 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I -- DO YOU WANT -- ARE YOU 2 TRYING TO AMEND THE DOCUMENT OR ARE YOU JUST 3 ENCOURAGING -- 4 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: I WAS ENCOURAGING -- 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 6 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: -- THE OPPORTUNITY FOR 7 THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS TO HAVE INPUT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAD ONE 10 OR TWO MINUTES AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, AND THEN THERE WAS 11 A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK TO THE RESOLUTION, 12 BUT THEY HAD TO LEAVE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 14 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: BUT IF THIS IS GOING TO 15 SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS THAT TRUSTEE JACKSON WANTS TO DO, 16 THEN WE COULD JUST FOR GO IT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 18 MAY I, MR. PRESIDENT? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S 21 COMMENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK RICK MENTIONED THIS THAT 22 WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY FOR ALMOST A DECADE. 23 I DON'T BUY THAT WE'RE EAGER TO REALLY WORK ON DIVERSITY 24 AT THIS COLLEGE. I'M SORRY. I JUST -- LOOK IF THAT WAS 25 TRUE, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. APRIL 26, 2012 232 1 TRUSTEE GRIER, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING 2 ABOUT DIVERSITY SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD? AND WHEN 3 HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SEEN A BLUEPRINT BEFORE YOU EVER? 4 NEVER. 5 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: NO. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S NEVER HAPPENED. 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YOU ARE RIGHT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON THIS 9 BOARD? 10 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: (INAUDIBLE). 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. I KNOW. AND I THINK 12 THAT'S A TRAGEDY. I JUST DON'T -- I DON'T THINK THAT WE 13 NEED TO PROPOSE THIS AS AN EITHER OR PROPOSITION. IN FACT 14 I THINK I HEAR A LOT OF AGREEMENT ON WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE 15 DOCUMENT. 16 I THINK PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED, RIGHT, 17 MR. PRESIDENT? 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, IT IS. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: SO LOOK, I AM LOOKING AT THESE 22 CHANGES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE HIRING DOCUMENT, BECAUSE 23 I HAD THE LANGUAGE HERE, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE IN THE 24 HIRING DOCUMENT. THE JOB ANNOUNCEMENT MUST BE WIDELY 25 ADVERTISED AT LEAST 45 DAYS PRIOR TO THE CLOSE OF APRIL 26, 2012 233 1 APPLICATIONS. 2 ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS GET A WEBSITE UP. 3 DOES THAT CONFLICT WITH THE HIRING DOCUMENT? NO. 4 HERE'S ANOTHER -- HERE'S ANOTHER -- HERE'S MORE 5 LANGUAGE IN THE HIRING DOCUMENT. OUR REASONABLE EFFORTS 6 SHALL BE MADE BY THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION OFFICE AND THE 7 ADMINISTRATION TO RECRUIT A DIVERSE POOL OF APPLICANTS TO 8 SATISFY THE DISTRICT'S AFFIRMATIVE ACTION REQUIREMENTS 9 RECRUITING A DIVERSE POOL. THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH 10 ANYTHING YOU SEE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CONFLICT WITH 11 THAT. IN FACT, ALL IT DOES IS SERVE THAT EXACT LANGUAGE 12 IN THE HIRING DOCUMENT. SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY 13 THIS IS SUCH A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE. 14 AND I REALLY DON'T KNOW -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW 15 THESE GROUPS HAVE COME UP HERE, AND I RESPECT THEIR 16 OPINION. BUT HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN COMING UP HERE AND 17 TALKING ABOUT DIVERSITY AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE? I'M 18 SERIOUS. 19 SO LET'S TAKE WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD 20 START. I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING THAN NOTHING. AND I AM 21 SURE IF I TAKE ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS IN EARNEST AND WITH 22 GOOD FAITH, I'M SURE YOU WANT SOMETHING RATHER THAN 23 NOTHING TOO. 24 I MEAN TRUSTEE GRIER HAS NOT SEEN ANY BLUEPRINT 25 FOR DIVERSITY SINCE SHE'S BEEN ON THIS BOARD REALLY AT APRIL 26, 2012 234 1 ALL. SO I DON'T THINK WHAT SHE WANTS -- AND I BELIEVE SHE 2 IS GENUINE ABOUT THIS, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE INPUT 3 FROM GROUPS IS WE ARE CLOSED BECAUSE WE ADOPT THESE 4 RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT AT ALL SO THAT CAN STILL HAPPEN, 5 OKAY. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE 7 LANGUAGE SAYS THOUGH. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I -- LET'S JUST ADD IT. LET'S NOT 9 KILL THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT 11 KILLING ANYTHING, TRUSTEE NGO. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW, BUT LET ME -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU KNOW (INAUDIBLE) -- 14 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT LET ME FINISH, I AM NOT SAYING 15 YOU ARE KILLING IT. I AM JUST TELLING YOU IT DOESN'T 16 MEAN -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I RESENT THAT. I'LL HAVE TO 18 SAY. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T MEAN THAT YOU ARE KILLING 20 IT, OKAY. ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE 21 THAT THERE'S MORE INPUT, LET'S JUST DO IT. LET'S NOT 22 TABLE ANYTHING TONIGHT. 23 FINALLY, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE ACADEMIC 24 SENATE ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S A GENUINE ISSUE. I KNOW THE 25 IRVINE CASE, OKAY. SO THE IRVINE CASE DOES STATE CLEARLY APRIL 26, 2012 235 1 THAT THE SENATE NEEDS TO CONSENT TO MATERIAL CHANGES IN 2 THE HIRING PROCESSES. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY 3 "MATERIAL." 4 BECAUSE, AGAIN, THESE CHANGES ARE 5 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT FULFILL THE BROAD MANDATE OF THE 6 HIRING DOCUMENT THAT YOU ALL HAD AGREED TO IN 1991. 7 THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DEBATE 8 THAT TONIGHT. 9 I THINK IN FACT WE SHOULD TELL THE COUNSEL IF 10 THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS SUBJECT TO THAT STATUTE, THEY 11 SHOULD -- IT SHOULD BE SENT TO THE ACADEMIC SENATE FOR 12 APPROVAL. AND UNTIL THEN, IT'S NOT IMPLEMENTED. BUT 13 THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. 14 THE OTHER STUFF IS STUFF WE SHOULD JUST MOVE 15 FORWARD ON. AND I THINK EVERYONE AGREES WITH THAT. I 16 JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MAKE TRUSTEE GRIER WAIT ANOTHER 17 FIVE YEARS OR FOUR BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 18 DIVERSITY, BELIEVE ME, I'VE HEARD FOR A LONG TIME. AND 19 THIS IS THE FIRST BLUEPRINT SHE'S SEEN. SO I WOULD 20 WELCOME ANY LANGUAGE. 21 I APOLOGIZE TO, TRUSTEE RIZZO, FOR OFFENDING HIM 22 ON THE LANGUAGE ABOUT KILLING THINGS. 23 IF ANYONE WANTS TO RECOMMEND LANGUAGE TO ENSURE 24 THERE'S MORE INPUT, I WOULD WELCOME THAT. THANK YOU. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, FOR STARTERS, WE COULD APRIL 26, 2012 236 1 TAKE OUT THE WORD "FINAL." WHERE IT SAYS, "THE FINAL 2 BLUEPRINT" BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT FINAL. IT OBVIOUSLY 3 NEEDS WORK AS WE'VE HEARD FROM DR. HUNNICUTT AND OTHERS. 4 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: (INAUDIBLE). 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S THE FIRST PAGE, THIRD 6 PARAGRAPH. 7 I MEAN ONE WAY TO -- 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WHERE IS THIS? 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S THE FIRST PAGE. IT'S ON 10 THE THIRD PARAGRAPH THE LAST SENTENCE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION? 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION OF 13 S6. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THE 15 RECOMMENDATION (INAUDIBLE). 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S NOT WHAT SAYS -- 17 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, I MEAN -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TRUSTEE JACKSON. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: HE CAN AMEND IT WITHOUT THE 20 RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- CHANGE THE REPORT, YOU CAN 23 CHANGE THE REPORT HOWEVER YOU WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE. I 24 DON'T THINK FOLK THAT CAME UP HERE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 25 REPORT. FOLK THAT CAME UP HERE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE APRIL 26, 2012 237 1 RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVING FORWARD ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 2 AND SO I CAN SWITCH -- I CAN AMEND THE 3 RESOLUTION AND JUST TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THE ACTUAL 4 RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN WE CAN GO DO THE REPORT AND 5 MAKE IT LOOK FANCY AND HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING ON THE REPORT 6 ITSELF. 7 THE REPORT I COULD TAKE OR LEAVE. IT'S THE 8 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. SO IF WE WANT TO GO 9 DO THE REPORT AND BE ALL INCLUSIVE, FINE. 10 ON THE RESOLUTION JUST SAY, WE WILL ADOPT THE 11 RESOLUTIONS OF THE BLUEPRINT BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALL 12 SAID WE AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BLUEPRINT. 13 SO WHY DON'T WE JUST ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 14 BLUEPRINT. AND IF WANT TO -- IF FOLK WANT TO GO BACK AND 15 WORK ON THE ACTUAL BLUEPRINT -- THE ACTUAL REPORT, THEN GO 16 WORK ON THE REPORT. I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN THE 17 RECOMMENDATIONS ONLY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE YOU FINISHED? MAY I 19 CONTINUE? 20 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL (INAUDIBLE). 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF YOU ARE NOT FINISHED -- YOU 22 INTERRUPTED ME. SO I'M -- 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS IN MID-SENTENCE. 25 SO IT'S THE THIRD PARAGRAPH, FINAL -- I THINK IF APRIL 26, 2012 238 1 THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE SHOULD TAKE THE WORD 2 "POLICY" OUT. I THINK "POLICY" IMPLIES A P RESOLUTION, 3 WHICH THIS IS NOT A P RESOLUTION. 4 AND, YOU KNOW, I AGREED WITH TRUSTEE GRIER. I 5 THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE COMMENTED NEED A CHANCE TO GIVE 6 INPUT INTO THIS. AND I MEAN ONE THING WE COULD DO IS 7 ACCEPT THE REPORT. THAT'S ONE OPTION. WE CAN CERTAINLY 8 SAY, WE DIRECT THE CHANCELLOR TO IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES TO 9 IMPROVE DIVERSITY AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYMENT 10 OPPORTUNITIES. WE COULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT. 11 I THINK REGARDING THE BLUEPRINT THAT WE ALLOW 12 SOME MORE WORK ON IT SOMEHOW. I THINK WE ACCEPT IT. WE 13 DON'T TABLE IT. WE ACCEPT IT. WE SAY WE ARE ACCEPTING 14 THE DOCUMENT. AND THEN ADD SOMETHING THAT SAYS, GIVE THE 15 OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS TO 16 COME BACK HERE OR NOT, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK 17 HERE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WHAT HAPPENS? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT GETS IMPLEMENTED. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I? 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I AGREE. I THINK, TRUSTEE RIZZO, 23 I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH THE LANGUAGE YOU 24 ARE PROPOSING. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE THIRD PARAGRAPH -- 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. APRIL 26, 2012 239 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WHERE IT SAYS, "FINAL." 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: MAYBE WE USE THE WORD, "WORKING." 4 WHAT DO YOU THINK? 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I LIKE THAT. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST 7 PARAGRAPH, THE "RESOLVED," SO AT THE END OF THE 8 "RESOLVED," YOU WOULD DO A COMMA. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: "BUT CONTINUE TO SEEK BROAD INPUT 11 TO REGULARLY IMPROVE THE BLUEPRINT." 12 AND I THINK THAT WE DON'T NEED TO SPECIFY THAT 13 COUNSEL SHOULD LOOK AT THE LEGAL ISSUES. I THINK 14 THAT'S -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: HE SHOULD JUST DO THAT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO -- 18 COUNSEL DICKEY: WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED 19 (INAUDIBLE). 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THERE NEEDS 21 TO BE -- I THINK PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF, WE ARE TRYING 22 TO INTERPRET CASES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE FULL 23 FACTS FOR SO I THINK COUNSEL NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE 24 RECOMMENDATIONS AND BASICALLY REVIEW WHAT IS SUBJECT TO 25 THE HIRING DOCUMENT. AND IT NEEDS TO BE CONSENTED TO BY APRIL 26, 2012 240 1 THE SENATE AND WHAT DOESN'T, BUT THAT'S IMPLIED. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DID YOU SAY -- 3 COUNSEL DICKEY: (INAUDIBLE.) 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT WAS AFTER "REGULARLY?" 5 "TO REGULARLY UPDATE" -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: "IMPROVE." 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IMPROVE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: "IMPROVE THE BLUEPRINT." 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S MY AMENDMENT. I THINK THAT 11 FULFILLS THE INTENT OF TRUSTEE GRIER, THE WISE INTENT OF 12 TRUSTEE GRIER. AND THEN THE WISE INTENT AND CONCERNS OF 13 MR. PRESIDENT, JOHN RIZZO. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I NEED A SECOND THOUGH I THINK. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, IT NEEDS A SECOND. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MAY I? MAY I? 19 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I HAVE COMPETING 23 AMENDMENT AND IT'S FAR SIMPLER. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL PUT IT OUT THERE. APRIL 26, 2012 241 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PUT IT OUT THERE. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO MY AMENDMENT IS JUST 3 FIRST PAGE, THIRD PARAGRAPH, STRIKE THE WORD "FINAL" AND 4 "BLUEPRINT COLLEGE-WIDE POLICY" AND STRIKE THOSE TWO WORDS 5 AS WELL, SO IT WILL READ, "BLUEPRINT FOR COLLEGE-WIDE 6 IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY FOR IMPROVING EQUAL OPPORTUNITY 7 AND FACULTY RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION AS SUGGESTED AS 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO." 9 AND THEN FOR THE ATTACHMENT ITSELF, JUST REQUEST 10 THAT IT SAYS, "DRAFT" ON IT, AND THEN IT WILL ALLOW TIME 11 FOR COLLEGES -- CONSTITUENT GROUPS TO HAVE FURTHER INPUT. 12 AND IT WOULD CERTAINLY COME BACK BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SAY, 13 "FINAL" AND IT'S NOT A POLICY. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WHEN IS THIS SUPPOSED TO COME 15 BACK? 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I AM SURE WITH THE 17 ATTENTION THE BOARD IS GIVING IT, IT WILL COME BACK VERY 18 QUICKLY. 19 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, I JUST KNOW, LIKE I 20 SAID, TRUSTEE RIZZO'S SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WAS A 2006 PLAN 21 THAT I APPROVED. AND WHAT WAS IT IN 2009 -- 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I OFFER IT AS AN 23 AMENDMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SECOND IT -- 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: -- '10. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- IF YOU DON'T LIKE APRIL 26, 2012 242 1 IT -- 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I'M SORRY. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- DON'T SECOND IT. 4 LET'S JUST SAVE TIME THAT WAY, OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I JUST WANT A COMMITMENT FROM 6 SHARED GOVERNANCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET IT IN A TIME 7 CERTAIN SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON IT. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT 9 WE NEED. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I THINK THE THEME OF TODAY IS, 11 YOU KNOW, WE NEED TIME CERTAIN ABOUT STUFF THAT WE SEND 12 OVER THERE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK TRUSTEE NGO'S PROPOSAL 14 IS A GOOD -- I LIKE ADDING THE WORD "WORKING." THAT 15 CERTAINLY IMPLIES THAT IT CAN EVOLVE. I THINK REALLY 16 THERE ISN'T ANY NEED FOR IT TO COME BACK HERE. YOU KNOW, 17 IT WILL BE IMPROVED BY THE PEOPLE WORKING ON IT AND -- 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: I WOULD LIKE QUARTERLY 19 UPDATES. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DON'T HAVE TO GET UPDATES. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: WE CAN ALWAYS ASK THAT AS A MEMBER 22 OF THE BOARD. 23 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT'S THAT? 25 TRUSTEE NGO: HE CAN ALWAYS ASK THAT AS A MEMBER APRIL 26, 2012 243 1 OF THE BOARD. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: WELL, I JUST -- BECAUSE I AM 3 NOT GOING TO NOT REMEMBER. SO I JUST WANT IT 4 AUTOMATICALLY EVERY QUARTER. I WANT AN UPDATE ON THE 5 PROGRESS. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. WHAT'S -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. WELL, SO THERE'S A 8 MOTION AND SECOND -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- ON THAT. 11 SO WE CAN HAVE -- WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW 12 ON THIS IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE AMENDMENT? 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON THE AMENDMENT, YEAH. 15 MS. SAGINOR: I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. I 16 WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHETHER WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING IS A 17 RESOLUTION ABOUT POLICY OR A RESOLUTION THAT ISN'T ABOUT 18 POLICY? IS IT -- IT IS POLICY OR IT'S NOT POLICY. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: THEORETICALLY, EVERYTHING WE DO 20 HERE IS POLICY, SO -- 21 MS. SAGINOR: THAT'S WHAT -- THAT'S WHY I AM 22 WONDERING. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT THAT DOESN'T -- THE RELEVANT 24 QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE 25 ACCEPTING AND DIRECTING TO IMPLEMENT IMPINGED ON YOUR APRIL 26, 2012 244 1 STATUTORY RIGHTS TO CONSENT TO IT. AND WE CAN'T ANSWER 2 THAT TONIGHT. COUNSEL HAS TO ANSWER THAT. 3 SO WHETHER YOU CALL IT POLICY OR NOT, IT DOESN'T 4 MEAN ANYTHING. IT BASICALLY IS A LEGAL QUESTION THAT WE 5 CAN'T RESOLVE, SO I DEFER -- I CONSENT -- I CONCEDE THAT 6 IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT IMPINGE ON THE DOCUMENT AND 7 MATERIALLY CHANGE IT, IT SHOULD BE CONSENTED TO. BUT WE 8 DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS YET, SO COUNSEL HAS TO CLARIFY. 9 WE ARE NOT GOING TO ARMCHAIR A LAWYER -- I DON'T THINK YOU 10 SHOULD EITHER -- ARMCHAIR A LAWYER WHAT IS GOVERNED BY THE 11 STATUTE IN IRVINE -- IN THE IRVINE CASE AND RELATED CASES 12 AND WHAT ISN'T. 13 AND I THINK WE CAN JUST PUNT THAT. AND I CAN 14 SEE THAT'S YOUR RIGHT. BUT NO ONE KNOWS THE ANSWER TO 15 THAT YET. 16 MS. SAGINOR: SO YOU ARE NOT REALLY CLEAR ON 17 WHETHER WHAT YOUR -- YOUR PROPOSING HERE IS ABOUT JUST 18 ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES OR IT'S ABOUT POLICY CHANGES. YOU 19 ARE NOT CLEAR ON THAT. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE 21 CLEARLY ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES, OKAY. BUT TO THE 22 EXTENT -- SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE NOT 23 SUBJECT TO YOUR CONSENT TO BE IMPLEMENTED AS A RESOLUTION 24 CALLS FOR. IF THEY ARE SUBJECT TO YOUR CONSENT, THEY 25 SHOULDN'T BE IMPLEMENTED. BUT THAT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT APRIL 26, 2012 245 1 YOU AND I CAN ANSWER TONIGHT. IT'S QUESTION THAT WILL 2 EITHER WAY, WHETHER WE VOTE ON IT OR NOT, WILL BE SUBJECT 3 TO A LEGAL INTERPRETATION. 4 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT 5 THAT I WAS AT THAT SAME MEETING THAT FRANCINE WAS AT A FEW 6 DAYS AGO, NOW IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO. IT'S BEEN A 7 VERY LONG DAY TODAY. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING FEELS 9 LIKE A LONG TIME AGO. 10 MS. SAGINOR: THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT STUFF 11 BROUGHT UP AT THAT MEETING THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. 12 THERE'S STUFF THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE CHANGES TO POLICY. 13 THERE'S STUFF THAT IT'S OUR CURRENT POLICY ALREADY, RIGHT. 14 OF COURSE, ONE OF PROBLEMS I HAVE IS THERE'S SOME 15 ASSERTIONS MADE IN THIS DOCUMENT OR PRACTICES WE DON'T DO 16 LIKE DOUBLE COUNTING. 17 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 18 MS. SAGINOR: WE DON'T DO THAT. BUT WHETHER 19 ITS -- THE THINGS THAT ARE JUST IMPLEMENTATION, WE ARE 20 GOING TO DO. YOU DON'T NEED TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO GET 21 US TO DO THOSE THINGS. THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 23 MS. WILLIAMS: HI. I WANTED TO ALSO ADDRESS THE 24 ISSUE AROUND KIND OF THEIR BEING CONTINUED FEEDBACK. 25 YESTERDAY I BELIEVE, GOD, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT APRIL 26, 2012 246 1 WAS. TWO DAYS AGO THERE WAS A MEETING OF THE EQUITY TASK 2 FORCE THAT MEET EVERY THREE MONTHS. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF 3 THE THINGS THAT I SAID -- I THINK THAT'S KIND OF PART OF 4 THE PROBLEM WITH KIND OF THE PROCESS AT THIS POINT IS THAT 5 IT'S GONE SO QUICKLY THAT I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T 6 REALLY EVEN KNOW WHERE WE ARE. 7 SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED FOR AT THE 8 MEETING WAS TO SAY, WE KIND OF HAVE A FIRST SET OF 9 RECOMMENDATIONS. AND IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THOSE 10 RECOMMENDATIONS, WE NEED TO ASK FOR THE EQUITY TASK FORCES 11 TO BE INCLUSIVE. 12 AND GOHAR STOOD UP AT THE MEETING AND SAID WE 13 ARE GOING TO PUT OUT AN ALL CAMPUS E-MAIL TO INVITE ANYONE 14 FROM THE CAMPUS COMMUNITY, WHO IS INTERESTED, TO 15 PARTICIPATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID SHE IS GOING TO DO 16 THAT ON FRIDAY OR MONDAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING 17 THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUBLICLY SAID IS GOING TO HAPPEN. 18 I PERSONALLY KIND OF SEE THIS AS A FIRST STEP OF 19 SOME SORT OF EASY SIMPLE FIXES. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE, 20 HOPEFULLY, A SECOND STEP. AND WE NEED TO GET ALL 21 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TO THE TABLE ON THIS. WE NEED TO 22 HEAR FROM EVERYONE. AND I KNOW THAT THE MORE INPUT AND 23 FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM FOLKS, THE BETTER AND BETTER 24 THAT THIS IS GOING TO GET. 25 I HOPE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THIS APRIL 26, 2012 247 1 ROUND ONE, AND THAT THERE'S A ROUND TWO. AND I WANT 2 EVERYONE AT THE TABLE ASIAN COALITION, CBAA, AND LEA AND 3 ANY OTHER CONSTITUTE GROUP THAT IS INTERESTED IN THIS 4 PROCESS. WORKING TOGETHER WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE 5 RESULTS THAT WE WANT WHICH IS TO INCREASE FACULTY 6 DIVERSITY ON CAMPUS. 7 I MEAN VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE COME UP TONIGHT AND 8 TALKED ABOUT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. THE NUMBERS ARE 9 STRIKING. 34 PERCENT OF TEACHING INSTRUCTIONAL FACULTY 10 ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR. 68 PERCENT OF STUDENT DEVELOPMENT 11 AND LIBRARY FACULTY ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR. WHY IS IT THAT 12 WE HAVE THE FAITH TO PUT PEOPLE OF COLOR TO TEACH OUR 13 CHILDREN THEN WE HAVE TO COUNSEL -- 14 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 15 MS. WILLIAMS: -- OUR CHILDREN. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT PLEASE, NOT 18 THE GENERAL MOTION. 19 WE'VE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE GENERAL 20 RESOLUTIONS. 21 MR. TORRES: I WILL BE BRIEF. EDGAR TORRES, 22 CHAIR OF LATIN AMERICAN/LATINO STUDIES. 23 I WANT TO SUPPORT TRUSTEES JACKSON'S SEPARATING 24 THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE VERY FIRST PART OF THE 25 DOCUMENT. APRIL 26, 2012 248 1 I DID NOT SPEAK UP BECAUSE I WAS HOPING IN YOUR 2 GREAT WISDOM YOU WOULD SEE THAT. WE WILL NEVER GET THE 3 NUMBERS RIGHT. WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT FROM THE 4 VERY BEGINNING. WE CAN ONLY APPROACH AND DO OUR BEST. 5 BUT FOR INSTANCE, LATINOS REPRESENT IN 6 ETHNICITY, NOT A RACIAL TYPE, SO WE EMBRACE EVERYONE. AND 7 BECAUSE IT IS A MENTAL CONSTRUCT, OUR NUMBERS CAN CHANGE. 8 AND I JUST HAD LUNCH WITH THE CHAIR OF LATINO 9 STUDIES FROM SAN FRANCISCO STATE. WE'RE WORKING ON 10 ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS. AND IN ONE SEMESTER AT SAN 11 FRANCISCO STATE WITH JUST A LITTLE ADD IN FRONT OF THEIR 12 ONLINE REGISTRATION BY DEALING WITH HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, 13 LATINO POPULATION JUMPED UP 6 PERCENT AT STATE. AND SO 14 NOW THEY ARE A HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION. 15 SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEVER GET THOSE NUMBERS 16 RIGHT. WE'LL NEVER INCLUDE EVERYBODY. AND I DIDN'T SPEAK 17 UP, EVEN THOUGH I FEEL I AM NOT REPRESENTED IN THAT 18 DOCUMENT AS WELL. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO BECAUSE IT'S THE 19 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 21 MR. MOCKERSON: WILLIAM MOCKERSON, SHARED 22 GOVERNANCE COORDINATOR FOR ASSOCIATED STUDENTS. 23 I THINK THAT YOU CAN MAKE THINGS TIME CERTAIN BY 24 PUTTING IT IN YOUR MOTIONS. SO YOU ARE A BOARD, AND YOU 25 SET POLICIES YOU ALL SAY, SO IF YOU WANT SHARED GOVERNANCE APRIL 26, 2012 249 1 TO DO SOMETHING, SEND THIS RESOLUTION TO A COMMITTEE AND 2 TELL THEM TO GIVE IT BACK TO YOU BY A DATE CERTAIN AND 3 THEN DISCUSS IT IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH. 4 BUT I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS 5 COULD GO THROUGH WITHOUT GOING BACK TO SHARED GOVERNANCE. 6 I THINK IT IS JUST IMPORTANT THAT YOU CREATE A SYSTEM 7 WHERE THIS STUFF DOES GO TO THOSE PLACES SO THAT WE DON'T 8 HAVE THESE CONTENTIOUS MEETINGS WHERE YOU GUYS SPEAK TO 9 EACH OTHER WITH SUCH LACK OF RESPECT. 10 IT'S -- I CRINGE AT LISTENING TO YOU GUYS 11 SOMETIMES BECAUSE I THINK YOU ARE ALL WORKING TOWARD THE 12 SAME GOAL, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE LEVEL OF RESPECT FOR 13 EACH OTHER THAT MAKES IT PLEASANT TO SIT HERE BECAUSE 14 THERE HAVE BEEN SIX-HOUR MEETINGS IN THIS ROOM THAT ARE 15 WORTH SITTING HERE FOR. BUT IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE 16 LEVEL OF RESPECT TO WORK WELL WITH EACH OTHER TO MAKE THIS 17 STUFF WORK, SEND IT TO SHARED GOVERNANCE SO WE CAN MAKE IT 18 WORK IN OUR COMMITTEES. 19 AND I AM GOING TO GET A REPORT FROM ALL OF THE 20 CHAIRS. THAT'S MY GOAL IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO FIGURE 21 OUT WHY THEY ARE NOT ALL MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS 22 BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN PUTTING -- FILLING THE 43 VACANT SEATS 23 FOR STUDENTS ON THESE COMMITTEES. AND THEY DON'T HAVE A 24 COMMITTEE TO GO TO. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS BUSINESS 25 THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THEM TO DO, BUT WE NEED YOU TO SET APRIL 26, 2012 250 1 PARAMETERS SO THAT THEY ALL KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR 2 THEM TO MEET THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THIS IS ABOUT THE 4 AMENDMENT. THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMMENTS ABOUT THE 5 AMENDMENT. 6 MS. ROMAN-MURRAY: CARMEN ROMAN-MURRAY, AND I AM 7 HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 MS. ROMAN-MURRAY: I THINK WE NEED MORE PEOPLE 10 TO SPEAK ABOUT. THERE IS NO RUSH. WE STILL HAVE TIME. I 11 AM EFFECTED BY THIS. AND I AM INTERESTED. AND I WOULD 12 LIKE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE SPEAKING ABOUT THE ISSUES, SO 13 PLEASE VOTE FOR THE AMENDMENT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 MR. CANTORA: IN REGARDS TO THE AMENDMENT AND 16 DIVERSITY,I REMEMBER TEN YEARS AGO -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME. 18 MR. CANTORA: OH, RICK CANTORA. 19 TEN YEARS AGO THERE WAS MUCH TO DO ABOUT 20 LANGUAGE IN TERMS OF DIVERSITY INITIATIVES, THE TERM THAT 21 WAS CONNECTED TO THE MAJORITY WAS "AS NECESSARY." I 22 REMEMBER THAT LANGUAGE VERY CLEAR. SO IT APPEARS IT 23 WASN'T VERY NECESSARY OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS TO BE HIRING 24 FACULTY OF COLOR HERE AT THIS COLLEGE. 25 SO IF YOU DON'T FEEL A SENSE OF URGENCY, I APRIL 26, 2012 251 1 REALLY JUST PRAY FOR ALL OF US. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT IS 3 CLOSED. 4 IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 8 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 9 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 16 THE AMENDMENT IS APPROVED. 17 NOW TO THE AMENDED RESOLUTION S6. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 21 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 22 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. APRIL 26, 2012 252 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 4 OKAY, IT CARRIES. 5 SO NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO OUR AGENDA. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (INAUDIBLE.) 7 COUNSEL DICKEY: COULD I -- COULD I -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, WE CAN'T. WE HAVE A LONG 9 AGENDA HERE. 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: COULD I SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE TO 11 THE CONSENT CALENDAR -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S WHAT I AM GOING TO 13 DO -- 14 COUNSEL DICKEY: -- AND DO THEM ALL AT ONCE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- IF PEOPLE WILL STOP TELLING 16 ME WHAT TO DO, I CAN DO IT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE RIZZO, I JUST WANT TO 18 APOLOGIZE FOR SAYING (INAUDIBLE). 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND I AM SORRY I REACTED 20 STRONGLY. IT WAS AN OVERREACTION. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I APOLOGIZE TOO. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR EIGHT 23 HOURS NOW. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. APRIL 26, 2012 253 1 IS THERE A MOTION FOR B3 AND B4? 2 LET ME ASK, DOES ANYONE WANT TO REMOVE B3 OR B4 3 FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? 4 ANYONE IN THE ROOM OR ON THE BOARD? 5 OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MOVE FOR ADOPTION. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY VICE PRESIDENT 10 GRIER. 11 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 13 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 21 OKAY, THE C RESOLUTIONS, C1-4. 22 DOES ANYONE WANT TO REMOVE ANY OF THOSE? 23 SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION FOR C1-4? 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MOVE FOR ADOPTION. 25 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. APRIL 26, 2012 254 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 3 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 11 THE C RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED. 12 WE HAVE G1-13 AND H1-3. 13 DOES ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ANY OF THOSE OFF THE 14 CALENDAR? 15 OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MOVE FOR ADOPTION. 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED AND SECONDED. 19 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 20 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. APRIL 26, 2012 255 1 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 4 S3, S4, S5, ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ONE OF THOSE OFF 5 OF THE CALENDAR? 6 OKAY, HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION? 7 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SO MOVED. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 11 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 19 S3, S4, AND S5 ARE APPROVED. 20 DUE TO THE LATENESS OF THE HOUR, WE ARE GOING TO 21 TAKE ITEM VII -- WE ARE GOING TO TABLE ITEM VII, 22 DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE ARE GOING TO TABLE ITEM VIII, REPORT 23 FROM THE CONSTITUENT GROUPS. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 24 TO TABLE THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT AND GO TO THE 25 RESOLUTIONS ITEMS. APRIL 26, 2012 256 1 WHAT'S THAT? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I WAS THINKING NEXT WEEK. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, YEAH. 4 B1, "AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE NEW CONTRACTS AND 5 MODIFY EXISTING CONTRACTS." 6 IS THERE A MOTION? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 10 BY TRUSTEE FANG. 11 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 12 DISCUSSION? 13 STUDENTS TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 16 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B1 IS APPROVED. 24 B2, COUNSEL, CAN YOU READ B2. 25 COUNSEL DICKEY: B2 IS ENTITLED, "AUTHORIZATION APRIL 26, 2012 257 1 TO CONTRACT WITH THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION 2 FOR CONTINUATION OF THE CALIFORNIA EARLY CHILDHOOD MENTOR 3 PROGRAM AND TO SUBCONTRACT WITH 100 CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY 4 COLLEGES IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,866,295." 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 8 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 10 NOW I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, BUT I HAD -- 11 I ASKED OUR CFO BILMONT TO KIND OF LOOK INTO IT AND 12 ANALYZE WHETHER THE CHARGE FOR INDIRECT EXPENSES WERE -- 13 WAS ADEQUATE IN THIS. AND HE BELIEVED IT WAS, SO I THINK 14 HE HAS SETTLED MY CONCERNS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO 15 DISCUSS IT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT I 16 AM OKAY WITH IT NOW. I APPRECIATE MR. BILMONT'S WORK ON 17 THAT. 18 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 19 PUBLIC COMMENT? 20 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 21 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 22 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 23 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. APRIL 26, 2012 258 1 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 6 OKAY, WE'VE GOT B1. 7 F1 WE'VE DONE. 8 F2 WE'VE DONE. 9 I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TABLE F3 AND S8. F3 IS 10 SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO TAKE SOME DISCUSSION. 11 I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TABLE F4. 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: F4 AND F5 HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, WE DELETED ANYWAYS. 14 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE DON'T NEED TO DO THOSE. 16 I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP P1 SINCE IT DEALS WITH 17 THE BUDGET. WE'VE APPROVED IT ONCE BEFORE. THIS IS THE 18 SECONDS READING. 19 IS THERE A MOTION FOR P1? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE P1. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 22 SECOND? 23 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: SECOND. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 25 PUBLIC COMMENT? APRIL 26, 2012 259 1 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 2 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 3 PRESIDENT. 4 THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE HAD EXAMINED. AND WE 5 ACTUALLY MADE SOME VERY LENGTHY RECOMMENDATIONS AT ONE 6 TIME, SOME OF WHICH WERE TAKEN, SOME OF WHICH WERE NOT. 7 THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, WHICH NOW I CAN'T 8 REMEMBER WHERE, WHETHER IT WAS A BOARD COMMITTEE MEETING 9 OR A SHARED GOVERNANCE MEETING AT WHICH THERE WAS -- 10 ACTUALLY, THE BOARD COMMITTEE MEETING, THERE WAS 11 DISCUSSION ABOUT WELL, IF FOR SOME REASON THERE CAME A 12 TIME WHEN IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO GET ALL THIS 13 INFORMATION TOGETHER, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THE ANNUAL 14 BUDGET COULD NOT BE APPROVED. AND AT THE TIME, IT WAS 15 SPECULATED THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE TO OVERRIDE POLICIES OF 16 THIS SORT WITH A TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY. 17 SOME RESEARCH WAS DONE THAT SHOWED THAT IN FACT 18 THERE'S NO RULE THAT SAYS THAT THE BOARD CAN OVERRIDE 19 POLICIES WITH A TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY UNLESS THAT'S BUILT 20 INTO THE POLICY I GUESS BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUCH GENERAL 21 RULE. 22 AND SO STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG HAD SUGGESTED ADDING 23 A PHRASE, "ADDITIONALLY IF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES DEEMS IT 24 NECESSARY, IT CAN OVERRIDE THE ABOVE STATED POLICY WITH 25 TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY VOTE THAT'S ENABLING TIMELY ADOPTION APRIL 26, 2012 260 1 OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET." 2 I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA, AND I WOULD 3 LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU CONSIDER ADDING THAT TO THIS AS 4 AN AMENDMENT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I ALSO BELIEVE VICE CHANCELLOR 8 GOLDSTEIN HAD AN AMENDMENT TO THIS POLICY WHICH I THOUGHT 9 WAS A GOOD ONE AS WELL. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 11 CFO BILMONT: TRUSTEE NGO. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 13 CFO BILMONT: PETER HAS TO DRIVE DOWN TO LOS 14 ANGELES TOMORROW, SO HE HAS LEFT FOR THE EVENING. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IT'S ONE O'CLOCK. 16 CFO BILMONT: YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY. 17 THE AMENDMENT OR THE MODIFICATION THAT YOU ARE 18 TALKING ABOUT I BELIEVE RELATES WITH THE CAMPUS BUDGETS. 19 AND THE SUGGESTED CHANGES ARE THAT WE WOULD DISCLOSE 20 THE -- I BELIEVE THE FTES AND THE COURSES TAUGHT AT THE 21 SITE AS OPPOSED TO AS THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THAT 22 BECAUSE -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: ACTUALLY, I REMEMBER WHAT THE 24 AMENDMENT WAS. 25 CFO BILMONT: OKAY. APRIL 26, 2012 261 1 TRUSTEE NGO: IT WAS NOT BUDGET ALLOCATION, BUT 2 RESOURCE ALLOCATION. SO WHERE IT SAYS, "BUDGET," IT 3 SHOULD SAY, "RESOURCE FOR PARAGRAPH 2 CAMPUS AND SITE." 4 CFO BILMONT: THAT'S RIGHT. "RESOURCE 5 ALLOCATION BY CAMPUS AND SITE." 6 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 7 CFO BILMONT: AND THE GENERAL DISCUSSION IS 8 COURSES AND FTES. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 10 CFO BILMONT: AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT 11 (INAUDIBLE). 12 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 13 CFO BILMONT: THANK YOU. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I THINK I THINK THAT'S IT, 15 RIGHT? 16 CFO BILMONT: I'M SORRY. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO I WOULD ACTUALLY, I THINK 18 THIS IDEA TRUSTEE FANG, KAREN SAGINOR'S IDEA FOR -- AND 19 TRUSTEE FANG'S IDEA FOR THE OVERRIDE IS A GOOD ONE. SO I 20 WILL PROPOSE THAT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO, DO YOU SEE GOING WITH 22 (INAUDIBLE)? 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DO. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AND ALSO I THINK THAT I WILL 25 ACCEPT VICE CHANCELLOR'S GOLDSTEIN'S AMENDMENT FOR APRIL 26, 2012 262 1 PARAGRAPH TWO TO REPLACE THE WORD "BUDGET" WITH 2 "RESOURCE." I THOUGHT THAT WAS A -- ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S 3 WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ANYWAY. AND I WOULD LOVE A SECOND 4 FOR THOSE AMENDMENTS. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A SECOND FOR THOSE 6 AMENDMENTS? 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 8 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THERE WAS A TIE FOR 10 SECOND. 11 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY, LET ME UNDERSTAND. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 13 COUNSEL DICKEY: WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ACADEMIC 14 SENATE MARKUP. IS THAT THE -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 16 COUNSEL DICKEY: AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ITEM 17 2, "DISCLOSES RESOURCES ALLOCATION BY CAMPUS AND SITE." 18 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 19 COUNSEL DICKEY: OKAY. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 I GUESS WE'LL -- THERE WAS A MOTION TO AMEND AND 24 THERE WAS A SECOND. IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE 25 AMENDMENT? APRIL 26, 2012 263 1 OKAY, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 5 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 6 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 13 OKAY, THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. 14 NOW ON THE MOTION ITSELF, IS THERE PUBLIC 15 COMMENT ON THE AMENDED RESOLUTION? 16 OKAY, FURTHER DISCUSSION? 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 20 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 21 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. APRIL 26, 2012 264 1 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 3 OKAY, THE AMENDED RESOLUTION P1 IS ADOPTED. 4 I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE P2-P5. I THINK THOSE 5 REQUIRE SOME DISCUSSION. 6 S1, WE DID. 7 S2, LOCAL HIRING. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE 8 NEED TO DO NOW? I THINK WE CAN -- 9 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: WHICH ONE? 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: S2, LOCAL HIRING, 11 EXTENDING THE LOCAL HIRING INITIATIVE FOR THE PERFORMING 12 ARTS CENTER. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: WHO IS THE SPONSOR? 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT MIGHT BE ME. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD DEFER TO YOURSELF. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. WE CAN DO IT. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: THIS DOESN'T HAVE AN INDICATION 18 IF IT REQUIRES SHARED GOVERNANCE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T BELIEVE IT DOES. 20 COUNSEL DICKEY: THIS IS ALL CONSTRUCTION STUFF. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK HIS POINT IS THAT 22 WASN'T -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WASN'T MARKED. 24 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. APRIL 26, 2012 265 1 COUNSEL DICKEY: (INAUDIBLE). 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE WERE SEVERAL. ALL 3 RIGHT. LET'S DO IT. IT'S -- I DON'T THINK IT'S -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 6 IS THERE A SECOND? 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 9 FANG. 10 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 11 IS THERE DISCUSSION? 12 WE ALL LIKE LOCAL HIRE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR -- 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 16 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 24 OKAY, GOOD TO GET IT OFF THE PLATE. 25 BLUEPRINT WAS SIX. DID I MISS -- APRIL 26, 2012 266 1 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: DID YOU DO FIVE? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DID FIVE. IT WAS A CONSENT 3 ITEM. 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON: S7. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU READ S7? 6 COUNSEL DICKEY: S7 IS ENTITLED, "RESOLUTION IN 7 SUPPORT OF SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE AND LOCAL INVESTMENT OF 8 SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT STUDENT FEES, 9 COMMUNITY TAX DOLLARS AND OTHER FINANCIAL RESOURCES." 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE THAT. 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON: SECOND. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 14 IS THERE DISCUSSION? 15 PUBLIC COMMENT? 16 DISCUSSION? 17 GO AHEAD. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: JUST REALLY BRIEFLY. YOU 19 KNOW, WE HAD FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY REALLY EARLIER ON 20 THAT CAME OUT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW, WE BOB HERE 21 WHO CAN MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, 22 IT'S ACTUALLY JUST REALLY SIMPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE 23 CURRENTLY BANK OUR MONEY WITH WELLS FARGO. WELLS FARGO 24 HAS BEEN AN ENTIRELY IRRESPONSIBLE LENDER IN TERMS OF A 25 LOT OF PEOPLE'S COMMUNITIES INSIDE SAN FRANCISCO. THEY APRIL 26, 2012 267 1 ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 22 PERCENT OF ALL FORECLOSURES IN SAN 2 FRANCISCO WHICH IS PULLED OUT ABOUT $154,000,000 OUT OF 3 OUR LOCAL ECONOMIES. 4 THIS MEASURE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN 5 PERALTA AND HAS CALLED FOR US TO KIND OF REBID FOR OUR 6 BANKING SERVICES CONTRACT. AND THEN, HOPEFULLY, WE CAN 7 SET INTO -- IN THOSE TERMS TO HAVE A MORE SOCIALLY 8 RESPONSIBLE VENDOR FOR THOSE SERVICES. AND IT ALSO 9 INCLUDES ATM'S AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, I AM JUST HOPING 10 EVERYBODY CAN SUPPORT THIS (INAUDIBLE). THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL AGREE WITH ALL THAT. 12 THAT'S WHY I AM VERY HAPPY TO HAVE MY NAME ON THIS. 13 AND I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A GOOD 14 CHANCE THAT WE WILL GET A BETTER DEAL. THAT WE WILL BE 15 SPENDING LESS MONEY FOR OUR BANKING SERVICES IF WE PUT IT 16 OUT FOR BID AND LET COMMUNITY BANKS BID ON IT IF THEY 17 WISH, AND WELLS FARGO CAN BID ON IT TOO, SO -- 18 CFO BILMONT: PRESIDENT RIZZO, AND BOARD OF 19 TRUSTEES, THE CITY AND COUNTY IS IN THE MIDST OF AN RFP 20 PROCESS. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE DISTRICT'S 21 INTEREST TO CONTINUE. I'VE BEEN SORT OF SHADOWING THE 22 PROCESS. RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY JOIN IT 23 FULL HEARTEDLY AND THEN PROCEED TO SEE IF IT MEETS OUR 24 LOCAL NEEDS. AND IF NOT, WE'LL PROCEED INDIVIDUALLY ALONG 25 THE ADDITIONAL LINES AS DESCRIBED BY THE BOARD. APRIL 26, 2012 268 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. 2 CFO BILMONT: ANY QUESTIONS? 3 THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 PUBLIC COMMENT? 6 MS. MESSER: ALISA MESSER, AFT 2121. 7 YOU KNOW, TUESDAY WAS THE WELLS FARGO SHARE 8 HOLDER MEETING IN SAN FRANCISCO DOWNTOWN. WE HAD MEMBERS 9 THERE HELPING TO CLOSE DOWN THE MEETING. 10 I JUST WANTED TO ADD. THERE WAS A GOOD LIST 11 THERE, BUT WELLS FARGO ALSO HOLDS MORE THAN $10 BILLION IN 12 PRIVATE STUDENT LOANS. THEY CHARGE STUDENTS 18 PERCENT 13 FOR THOSE LOANS. THEY LOBBIED AGAINST FEDERAL CHARGES TO 14 BENEFIT STUDENTS THROUGH FINANCIAL AID AND PELL GRANTS. 15 THEY'RE A PREDATORY LENDER, AND THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY 16 OFF OF OUR STUDENTS BY US HAVING WELLS FARGO AS OUR 17 PRIMARY OPTION BOTH THROUGH ATM'S, BUT ALSO THEY CHARGE 18 THE COLLEGE FOR THE FEES, THE CREDIT CARD PASS THROUGHS. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 20 MS. MESSER: AND STUDENT WORKERS ACCESS THEIR 21 MONEY THROUGH PAY CARDS. BUT THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST 22 DEAL FOR THEM, SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY REASONABLE THING 23 FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT AND THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 TRUSTEE NGO. APRIL 26, 2012 269 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS 2 RESOLUTION. I THINK FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. I THINK WE 3 SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO BIDDING ANYTHING WHERE WE COULD 4 LOWER THE COST OF RUNNING THE COLLEGE, SO I SUPPORT IT FOR 5 THAT REASON. 6 I'VE HAD ISSUES WITH WELLS FARGO LONG BEFORE THE 7 ISSUE OF MORTGAGES AND FORECLOSURES. THEY -- I UNDERSTAND 8 THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK, AND THEY DONATE TO A LOT 9 OF GOOD CAUSES, BUT IT REALLY BOGGLED MY MIND THAT THEY 10 OPPOSED THE SAFRA BILL. THE SAFRA BILL BASICALLY TOOK THE 11 SUBSIDY WE WERE GIVEN TO BANKS TO SERVE AS LOANS AND 12 INCREASED THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO GET FINANCIAL AID GET 13 PELL GRANTS. 14 AND IT REALLY DISAPPOINTED ME THAT THERE WAS 15 NO -- I E-MAILED THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS PEOPLE. I SAID, 16 WHY ARE YOU TAKING THIS POSITION? AND I GOT NO RESPONSE. 17 SO I AM HAPPY THAT WE ARE FINALLY MOVING FORWARD 18 WITH THIS. I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY -- 19 THERE IS A REASON WHY THE TERM "TO BIG TO FAIL" EXISTS. 20 BUT I HOPE WE CAN FIND SOME COMPETITION FOR THE BIG BANK 21 ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE AND GET SOME COSTS DOWN FOR THE 22 COLLEGE. ULTIMATELY, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE. 23 THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: I -- APRIL 26, 2012 270 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, TRUSTEE MARKS. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS 3 RESOLUTION IN THAT IT DIRECTS THE CHANCELLOR TO PROVIDE 4 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES NO LATER THAN JUNE 30TH, 2012 THAT 5 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO PUT OUT TO BID FOR ITS 6 BANKING SERVICES CONTRACT AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO 7 LOOK INTO ITS CONTRACTS FOR ITS ATM SERVICES. AND A 8 RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HOW BEST TO BRING ABOUT IN A TIMELY, 9 EFFICIENT AND RESPONSIBLE REDIRECTION OF FINANCIAL 10 RESOURCES MAINTAINED. 11 THIS IS NOT A POLICY RESOLUTION. 12 COUNSEL DICKEY: NO. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD 14 BE ONLY IN THE BUSINESS OF PASSING POLICIES. SO I DON'T 15 KNOW WHY THIS -- THIS CAN BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS, THESE 16 SENTIMENTS. BUT I WOULD -- I WOULD BE RELUCTANT TO VOTE 17 ON DIRECTING THE CHANCELLOR TO PROVIDE THE BOARD OF 18 TRUSTEES AND A DATE CERTAIN WITH ALL OF THESE THINGS. I 19 AM JUST UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I WOULD SAY PERALTA HAD 21 A VERY SIMILAR RESOLUTION A FEW MONTHS AGO OR MAYBE SIX 22 MONTHS AGO. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE'VE 25 HAD -- YOU KNOW, NOT ALL OF THESE ARE POLICIES. WE HAVE APRIL 26, 2012 271 1 TEN S RESOLUTIONS TONIGHT. WE'VE DONE LOTS OF THINGS 2 BEFORE TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF 3 RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE DONE THINGS TO SAVE MONEY. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS 5 BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE CHANCELLOR DOESN'T NEED OUR 6 DIRECTION FOR THIS TYPE OF THING. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ACTUALLY, HE TOLD ME THAT HE 8 DID. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO, NO. THAT'S HEARSAY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I'M SORRY, YOU DON'T 11 BELIEVE ME. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: CALL THE QUESTION. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MR. BILMONT. 15 CFO BILMONT: THANK YOU, TRUSTEES. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS, I'M GLAD YOU READ THE CONTENT OF 17 THE RESOLUTION. I SEE THAT AS RECOGNIZING THE TIMELINE 18 THAT THERE WILL BE INFORMATION BROUGHT TO THE BOARD. AND 19 THE PROGRESS OF THIS THAT IT COULD TAKE LONG -- IT WILL 20 NOT BE COMPLETED BY JUNE OF 2012, BUT WE CAN ENGAGE IN AN 21 RFP PROCESS, BUT THE TRANSITION OF BANKING SERVICES COULD 22 EXTEND OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON: (INAUDIBLE) THIS IS JUST -- 24 CFO BILMONT: SO WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE NOW. 25 TRUSTEE JACKSON: YEAH. APRIL 26, 2012 272 1 CFO BILMONT: VERY GOOD. 2 TRUSTEE JACKSON: THIS WASN'T -- OUR STUFF 3 BETTER BE IN PALTECO CREDIT UNION. IT WAS JUST MEANT TO 4 START THE PROCESS BY THEN. AND THEN, HOPEFULLY, YOU GUYS, 5 THROUGH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, YOU GUYS WILL STAY IN 6 TOUCH -- THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, YOU GUYS WILL KEEP ON 7 TALKING TO US. 8 CFO BILMONT: THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN DID 10 TELL ME THAT HE DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THIS 11 WITHOUT A BOARD RESOLUTION. 12 ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT? 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 16 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 17 VICE PRESIDENT GRIER: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE JACKSON: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES. APRIL 26, 2012 273 1 WE HAVE S -- THAT WAS S7. 2 S9. 3 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: S8. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S8 WE TOOK OFF -- WE ARE 5 TABLING S8. 6 OH, S9 IS RELATED, SO -- DO WE NEED TO DO S9 OR 7 DO WE NEED TO DO THE OTHER ONES BEFORE S9? 8 COUNSEL DICKEY: I THINK S9 IS PART OF -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO WE'LL JUST -- 10 COUNSEL DICKEY: I THINK S8 CREATES THE 11 CLASSIFICATION THAT S9 -- AND S9 CREATES THE POSITION, SO 12 I THINK THEY ARE RELATED. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THEY ARE RELATED. OKAY, SO WE 14 WILL TABLE THAT ONE UNTIL -- 15 COUNSEL DICKEY: YEAH. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- NEXT MONTH. 17 I WOULD SUGGEST WE TABLE THE TRUSTEES' REPORTS 18 IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION. 19 CHANCELLOR'S REPORT, WE'VE HAD THAT. 20 CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENTS. 21 COUNSEL DICKEY: YES, THE BOARD MET IN CLOSED 22 SESSION AT FIVE O'CLOCK TODAY TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS POSTED 23 ON THE AGENDA. THEY REACHED ONE FINAL DECISION WHICH WAS 24 TO APPROVE A SETTLEMENT IN THE CASE OF STRAIN VERSUS SAN 25 FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, IN THE AMOUNT OF APRIL 26, 2012 274 1 $50,000. THAT IS IT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS 3 TO SPEAK? 4 SEEING NONE, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 5 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 1:30 A.M.) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APRIL 26, 2012 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. DATED: MAY 18, 2012 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 STATE OF CALIFORNIA