SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, MARCH 24, 2011 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO OCEAN AVENUE CAMPUS 50 PHELAN AVENUE SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 7 CHRIS JACKSON 8 MILTON MARKS III 9 ANITA GRIER 10 STEVE NGO 11 JOHN RIZZO 12 LAWRENCE WONG 13 14 15 DR. DON Q. GRIFFIN, CHANCELLOR 16 LEILANI BATTISTE, GENERAL COUNSEL 17 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 24, 2011 3 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, MARCH 24, 2011, 2 COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 6:59 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY COLLEGE 3 OF SAN FRANCISCO, 50 PHELAN AVENUE, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD: 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 24, 2011 4 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF 2 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR CITY COLLEGE. 3 COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PRESIDENT JOHN RIZZO. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: VICE PRESIDENT CHRIS 7 JACKSON. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: HERE. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. NATALIE BERG. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: ABSENT. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. ANITA GRIER. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESENT. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: MILTON MARKS. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: HERE. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STEVE NGO. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: LAWRENCE WONG. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: HERE. 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY 20 FANG. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: HERE AND SURVIVED MY 22 MIDTERMS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, COULD WE PLEASE STAND 24 FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 25 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) MARCH 24, 2011 5 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I JUST WANT TO CHECK -- THERE 2 WE GO. IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE WE WERE ON. WE ARE ON NOW I 3 GUESS. 4 OKAY, SO NEXT IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I 5 HAVE TWO CARDS. I HAD TWO CARDS. WHERE DID THEY GO? 6 THERE THEY ARE. 7 SO THESE ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR TOPICS THAT ARE 8 NOT ON THE AGENDA. THESE SPEAKERS HAVE TWO MINUTES. THE 9 FIRST ONE IS HOMER TENG. 10 IS HOMER TENG HERE? 11 MR. TENG: GOOD EVENING. I AM GOING TO FIRST 12 YIELD TO MY FRIEND WHO IS ALSO A SPEAKER, AND I AM GOING 13 TO GO AFTER HIM. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 15 MR. RUSSO: GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ANDREW 16 RUSSO, AND I AM THE DIRECTOR AND CO-FOUNDER OF THE SAN 17 FRANCISCO FAMILY SUPPORT NETWORK. AND OUR NETWORK'S MAIN 18 POLICY FOCUS IS ON PROMOTING FAMILY ECONOMIC SUCCESS, A 19 CRITICAL ISSUE FOR FAMILIES HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO. 20 ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THAT POLICY 21 PLATFORM IS ON PROMOTING EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR 22 FAMILIES. AS A CITY OF IMMIGRANTS, ONE OF THE MOST 23 CRITICAL EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAN FRANCISCO'S 24 FAMILIES IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ENGLISH AS A SECOND 25 LANGUAGE. LEARNING THE LANGUAGE IS KEY FOR FAMILIES BEING MARCH 24, 2011 6 1 ABLE TO OBTAIN JOBS THAT PAY LIVING WAGES FOR THEMSELVES 2 AND THEIR CHILDREN. 3 AS SUCH, OUR FAMILY SUPPORT NETWORK, ALONG WITH 4 THE CHINATOWN FAMILIES ECONOMIC SELF-SUFFICIENCY 5 COALITION, CO-FOUNDED A WORK GROUP, AN ESL CITYWIDE 6 COORDINATION WORK GROUP OF WHICH CITY COLLEGE IS A MEMBER. 7 THE GROUP SEEKS TO SUPPORT THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE 8 ACQUISITION OF LIMITED ENGLISH SPEAKING ADULTS WITH 9 CHILDREN BY COORDINATING RESOURCES CITYWIDE. 10 THROUGH PARTICIPATING IN THAT WORK GROUP, ONE OF 11 THE STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON IS ONE THAT I 12 HOPE IS OF GREAT CONCERN TO YOU AS MUCH AS IT IS TO US. 13 THAT IS, OF THE STUDENTS ENROLLED IN CITY COLLEGE'S 14 ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE PROGRAMS, 91 PERCENT -- 15 91 PERCENT OF THE STUDENTS IN LEVELS 1-4, THE BEGINNING 16 LEVELS OF ESL OF WHICH THE MAJORITY OF STUDENTS ARE 17 ENROLLED, 91 PERCENT NEVER MAKE IT TO LEVEL 5. NEVER MAKE 18 IT TO LEVEL 5 BY CITY COLLEGE'S OWN STATISTICS. 19 LEVEL 5 IS WHERE ALL THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL 20 EDUCATION PROGRAMS BEGIN. SO THAT MEANS ONLY 9 PERCENT OF 21 YOUR STUDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENTER CAREER AND 22 TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. WE SINCERELY HOPE TO 23 CONTINUE -- 24 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 25 -- WORKING WITH CITY COLLEGE AND OTHER PARTNERS MARCH 24, 2011 7 1 TO ADDRESS THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 SO NOW WE HAVE HOMER TENG. 4 MR. TENG: GOOD EVENING, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO, AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. MY 6 NAME IS HOMER TENG. I AM THE COORDINATOR OF THE CHINATOWN 7 FAMILIES ECONOMIC SELF-SUFFICIENCY COALITION, A 8 COLLABORATION OF 21 FAMILY SUPPORT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, 9 A YOUTH AND EDUCATIONAL SERVICES PROVIDERS THAT SERVE 10 CHINATOWN AND CITYWIDE. 11 THE ISSUE OF ESL IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE 12 CHINESE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF 13 ENGLISH PROFICIENCY, A LOT OF THE CLIENTS THAT OUR 14 COALITION MEMBERS SERVE ARE NOT ABLE TO ENTER VOCATIONAL 15 TRAINING PROGRAMS OFFERED AT CITY COLLEGE. THEREFORE, 16 THEY ARE STUCK IN JOBS IN CHINATOWN CLEANING DISHES OR 17 WAITING TABLES. 18 SOME OF THEM WHO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION SKILLS 19 BACK IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WORK FOR SOME 20 EMPLOYERS, CHINESE EMPLOYERS WHO CAN HIRE THEM AS 21 CARPENTERS, BUT AT NON-UNIONIZED SALARIES. 22 SO AS MY FRIEND ANDREW RUSSO HAS MENTIONED, THE 23 COALITION IS A MEMBER OF THIS CITYWIDE ESL COORDINATION 24 WORK GROUP. AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME LISTENING 25 SESSIONS ABOUT THE ESL PROGRAM AND CITY COLLEGE. AND I MARCH 24, 2011 8 1 INVITE YOU TO BE A PART OF THESE LISTENING SESSIONS. 2 THESE LISTENING SESSIONS WILL GIVE OPPORTUNITY 3 FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON HOW THE ESL 4 PROGRAM AT CITY COLLEGE CAN BE STRENGTHENED AND CAN BE 5 MORE RESPONSIVE TO THEIR NEEDS. 6 ONE WILL BE HELD IN MISSION, WHICH IS ON 7 WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20TH FROM 10:00 TO NOON. 8 ONE WILL BE IN CHINATOWN THE FOLLOWING DAY ON 9 APRIL 21 10:00 TO 12:00. 10 AND -- 11 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 12 -- SO THIS LAST ONE IS IN VISITACION VALLEY 13 APRIL 27TH 6:30 TO 8:30. I HOPE YOU CAN COME. THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 THE NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 16 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 17 MINUTES? 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO MOVED. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 SECOND? 21 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 23 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: I MUST ABSTAIN, PRESIDENT 25 RIZZO -- MARCH 24, 2011 9 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- BECAUSE I WAS ILL. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. TRUSTEE GRIER WILL 4 ABSTAIN. 5 ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 6 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MINUTES? 7 ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY "AYE". 8 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: (ABSTAIN.) 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 17 OKAY, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 18 THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTIONS 19 AGENDA. I WANT TO MAKE ONE CHANGE. 20 P1, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND THAT TO THE FACILITIES 21 INFRASTRUCTURE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE. THAT HASN'T BEEN 22 HEARD IN THE COMMITTEE, AND THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL DETAIL 23 THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH THERE. SO RATHER THAN 24 DO IT TONIGHT, I AM GOING TO SEND THAT TO COMMITTEE SO 25 THAT WON'T BE ON OUR AGENDA. MARCH 24, 2011 10 1 COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE OTHER RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE 2 ADDED? 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. 4 WITH REGARD TO REVISED RESOLUTIONS, WE HAVE 5 NONE. 6 AS TO ADDED RESOLUTIONS, WE HAVE S11, WHICH IS 7 "AUTHORIZING A DISTRICT CREDIT CARD FOR THE CHANCELLOR'S 8 DEPARTMENT." 9 AS TO SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTIONS, WE HAVE NONE. 10 AND WITHDRAWN RESOLUTIONS, WELL, P1 ISN'T 11 WITHDRAWN. IT IS JUST TABLED I PRESUME. AND THAT WOULD 12 BE ALL. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 14 IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA 15 AS AMENDED? 16 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF INFORMATION -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: -- ON P1. 19 WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST READING OF P1? 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS, BUT I DO THINK IT 21 NEEDS SOME DISCUSSION AT COMMITTEE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND IS IT GOING ALSO TO THE 23 POLICY COMMITTEE? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT COULD. I DON'T KNOW. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I ASSUME IT HAS BEEN OR HAS NOT MARCH 24, 2011 11 1 BEEN. I DON'T KNOW. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT HAS NOT BEEN TO ANY 3 COMMITTEE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: POINT OF INFORMATION. 5 HOW MANY TIMES HAS THE POLICY COMMITTEE MET? 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT HASN'T MET YET. THAT'S 7 TRUSTEE BERG -- IT HASN'T MET YET. 8 ALL RIGHT. I GUESS I SHOULD MENTION THAT WE ARE 9 STREAMING LIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THIS MEETING VIA THE 10 WEB. THIS MEETING WILL BE AVAILABLE ON DEMAND ON THE 11 WEBSITE AFTER THE MEETING, SO YOU CAN WATCH IT TWICE. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: CAN'T WAIT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER 14 DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA? 15 DID I GET A MOTION? I DON'T -- 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I THINK I DID IT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 21 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 22 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 23 COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? 24 OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY "AYE". 25 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) MARCH 24, 2011 12 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 9 OKAY, THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA IS ADOPTED. 10 APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, MEMBERS OF THE 11 BOARD AND OF THE PUBLIC MAY ASK FOR ITEMS TO BE PULLED OFF 12 OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR SO THAT THEY MAY BE DISCUSSED. 13 SO WE COULD GO THROUGH HERE. LET'S SEE, I HAD 14 SOME AS WELL. 15 B1, I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THE CONSENT 16 CALENDAR. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMOVE B3 AND B4 AND B5. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO CAN I -- YOU SAID, 18 B1, B2, B3, B4, ALL THE B'S OR WHAT? 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: HE DIDN'T SAY "B2". 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B2 IS NOT ON THE CONSENT 21 CALENDAR. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE C'S, I WOULD LIKE TO 24 REMOVE C2. 25 IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE MARCH 24, 2011 13 1 ANY OF THE C RESOLUTIONS? 2 OKAY, CAN I TAKE A MOTION FOR THE C RESOLUTIONS. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 5 IS THERE A SECOND? 6 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 8 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 18 OKAY, C1, C3, AND C4 ARE APPROVED. 19 LET'S SEE, WE HAVE G1-13 AND H1-4. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 IS THERE A SECOND? 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) MARCH 24, 2011 14 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 9 OKAY, THE G AND THE H RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED. 10 ON THE S'S, DOES ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE 11 S'S OFF OF CONSENT? 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DO. I WANT TO PULL S4 AND S5. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? 14 OKAY, DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MOVE S2, S3, S6? 15 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T HAVE S3. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, NOT S3. SO S2 AND S6. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 19 IS THERE A SECOND? 20 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 22 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S2 AND S6. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. MARCH 24, 2011 15 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 7 OKAY, SO THAT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 8 OKAY, WITH THE INDULGENCE OF THE BOARD, WE HAVE 9 A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE FOR THE SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. SO 10 IF WE COULD MOVE THE SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS ITEM VIII OUT 11 OF ORDER AND TAKE THAT UP NOW. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I'LL MOVE IT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO WE HAVE TO MOVE IT? 14 TRUSTEE NGO: DID YOU ASK FOR A MOTION? 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, I DIDN'T ASK FOR A MOTION. 16 I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO MOVE IT, UNLESS THERE IS AN 17 OBJECTION. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M MOTION HAPPY. I'M SORRY. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 20 THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS RECOGNITION OF 21 NEWLY-TENURED FACULTY. 22 MR. BOEGEL: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE RIZZO, AND 23 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. 24 TODAY IS A GREAT DAY. ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF 25 MY JOB IS CALLING UP PEOPLE THE DAY AFTER THE BOARD MARCH 24, 2011 16 1 MEETING OR MAYBE OF COUPLE DAYS AFTER THE BOARD MEETING 2 AND SAYING, "CONGRATULATIONS. THE BOARD HAS GRANTED 3 TENURE." 4 THE ACQUISITION OF TENURE IS SOMETHING TO BE 5 CELEBRATED. THESE FACULTY AND THEIR TENURE REVIEW 6 COMMITTEES HAVE WORKED HARD FOR FOUR YEARS. THE TENURE 7 REVIEW PROCESS IS NOT SIMPLY AN EVALUATIVE PROCESS, BUT 8 IT'S A PERIOD OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND A PERIOD IN 9 WHICH THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO DEVELOP THESE FACULTY 10 MEMBERS AS FULLY PARTICIPATING FULL TIME MEMBERS OF THEIR 11 DEPARTMENT AND OF OUR COLLEGE. 12 THIS IS NOW MY FOURTH TIME WITH THIS SPECIAL 13 PRESENTATION. AND EVERY TIME I LOOK AT THE LIST OF NAMES, 14 AND WE HAVE A LARGE LIST OF NAMES THIS TIME. EVERY TIME I 15 LOOK AT IT, I AM ALWAYS SURPRISED. I AM ALWAYS SURPRISED 16 TO SAY, OH, WOW THIS PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TENURE YET. THAT 17 PERSON DOESN'T. THAT PERSON DOESN'T HAVE TENURE YET. 18 THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY MAKING SIGNIFICANT 19 CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COLLEGE. AND THAT CERTAINLY IS 20 SOMETHING TO BE CELEBRATED. 21 SO WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, WE HAVE QUITE A NUMBER 22 OF THE MEMBERS HERE TODAY. AND I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND 23 READ THROUGH THE LIST OF EVERYBODY. AND WHEN I READ YOUR 24 NAME, IF YOU COULD STAND UP, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 25 I AM GOING TO MESS WITH THE WEB STREAM AND TURN MARCH 24, 2011 17 1 AROUND HERE, SO I CAN SEE YOU BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE YOU 2 TOO. 3 SO FROM THE ART DEPARTMENT, I WILL START WITH 4 THE A'S. FROM THE ART DEPARTMENT, INNA RAZUMOVA. 5 FROM AUTOMOTIVE, MOTORCYCLE, CONSTRUCTION AND 6 BUILDING MAINTENANCE, WE HAVE LISA DUKE. 7 FROM BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES, WE HAVE MARGARET 8 LOUIE. 9 FROM BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES, WE HAVE CHANTILLY 10 APOLLON. 11 FROM, BROADCAST ELECTRONIC MEDIA ARTS, MISHA 12 ANTONICH. 13 FROM THE BUSINESS DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE LEO BELLO, 14 DENNIS MULLEN, MARIO YRUN, JAMIEL LEMLEY, RUDY PADILLA, 15 AND STEPHANIE ROSENBERG. 16 FROM THE CHEMISTRY DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE TORREY 17 GLENN. 18 FROM COMPUTER NETWORKING AND INFORMATION 19 TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE ABIGAIL BORNSTEIN. 20 FROM CONSUMER EDUCATION, LISA YAMASHIRO. 21 FROM CONTINUING STUDENT COUNSELING, WE HAVE 22 CAROLINA AVILA AND TESSA BROWN. 23 SHE IS WAY IN THE BACK HERE, BUT SHE IS HERE. 24 FROM NEW STUDENT COUNSELING, WE'VE GOT JOANNE 25 HUANG, QUINCI LEE, MANDY LIANG, GRISELLE SCHMIDT-FONSECA, MARCH 24, 2011 18 1 PETER STOFFERS -- 2 WHERE ARE YOU, PETER? I SAW YOU HERE. THERE HE 3 IS. 4 -- JULISSA VINALS. 5 FROM TRANSFER STUDENT COUNSELING, WE'VE GOT JACK 6 SUGAWARA. 7 FROM CULINARY ARTS, WE'VE GOT BARBARA HAIMES AND 8 ELIZABETH RIEHLE. 9 FROM ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY, WE'VE GOT 10 SECOND GENERATION NEWLY-TENURED FACULTY KEITH MUELLER AND 11 CARIN ZIMMERMAN. 12 FROM THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT, WE'VE GOT ANDREW 13 KING, JENNIFER LEVINSON, MITRA SAPIENZA, KELLY VOGEL, NO 14 RELATION, AND JENNIFER WORLEY. 15 FROM EOPS, WE HAVE CINDY MATA. 16 FROM ESL, I'VE GOT TO TAKE A BIG DEEP BREATH 17 HERE. CHARLES BELBIN, LORI CABANSAG, ZEHRA GOOD, DEBORAH 18 HUSZAGH-LOCKWOOD, LISA JOHNSON, PENNIE LAU, THI THI MA, 19 JAY MOJICA, MIRIAM QUEEN, AND DIANE WALLIS. 20 FROM LIBRARY AND LEARNING RESOURCES, WE HAVE 21 MAURO GARCIA AND WENDY OWENS. 22 FROM MATHEMATICS, WE'VE GOT KERIN KEYS. SHE'S 23 HOME WITH HER KIDS. 24 FROM MULTICULTURAL RETENTION SERVICES, WE'VE GOT 25 JORGE AVILA, GREGORIA CAHILL, LOAN HUYNH, MAIDA LIU, AND MARCH 24, 2011 19 1 LETICIA SILVA. 2 FROM LICENSED VOCATIONAL NURSING, WE'VE GOT 3 EMILYN OSTREA. 4 AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, FROM PHYSICAL EDUCATION 5 AND DANCE, GAB SAUCEDO. 6 SO WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A TENURE RECEPTION 7 AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THE LOCATION AND DAY TO BE 8 DETERMINED, BUT SOME TIME IN APRIL SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER 9 FESTIVE EVENT FOR YOU HERE. SO THANK YOU. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 12 MR. BOEGEL: I DON'T KNOW IF OUR -- I DON'T KNOW 13 IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOME NICE WORDS. NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE 14 SPOT, WE REHEARSED THIS FOR HOURS. 15 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 16 VICE PRESIDENT. 17 I AM VERY, VERY -- 18 MR. BOEGEL: VICE? YOU'RE PRESIDENT. 19 MS. SAGINOR: EXCUSE ME, PRESIDENT. I'M 20 DEMOTING MYSELF HERE. 21 I AM VERY, VERY PROUD AND PLEASED TO SEE THIS 22 WONDERFUL GROUP OF FACULTY. MANY OF YOU -- ALL OF YOU 23 HAVE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED A LOT THROUGH THE SHARED 24 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES. AND I FULLY EXPECT THAT NOW THAT 25 YOU ARE TENURED AND HAVE LESS TO WORRY ABOUT FROM THE MARCH 24, 2011 20 1 TENURE PART THAT MEANS YOU WILL HAVE MORE ENERGY TO PUT 2 INTO THE SHARED GOVERNANCE AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS FOR 3 THE COLLEGE. WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK 4 YOU DO TO MAKE THE COLLEGE WORK. THANK YOU. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 6 OUR NEXT ITEM IS ALSO A SPECIAL PRESENTATION. 7 WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE WITH US THE STUDENT SENATE 8 REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 9 MS. RICHARDS: GOOD EVENING, CHAIR RIZZO. 10 GOOD EVENING, DR. GRIFFIN, AND MEMBERS OF THE 11 BOARD. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. COULD YOU STATE 13 YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? 14 MS. RICHARDS: YES. MY NAME IS RACHEL RICHARDS. 15 I'M WITH THE STUDENT SENATE FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY 16 COLLEGES. AND MY CO-PRESENTER TODAY IS LINDSEY ST. HILL. 17 SHE IS ONE OF OUR REGION SENATORS FOR REGION III. AND SHE 18 IS ALSO THE SECRETARY FOR OUR ORGANIZATION. 19 WE HAVE A BRIEF SLIDE PRESENTATION FOR YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD WE MAYBE HAVE THE LIGHTS 21 DIMMED. SOMEONE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM PERHAPS. 22 MS. RICHARDS: THANK YOU, SIR. 23 THE STUDENT SENATE FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY 24 COLLEGES, AS I STATED EARLIER AT THE INTRODUCTION, 25 SECRETARY LINDSEY ST. HILL AND I WILL BE PRESENTING. IF MARCH 24, 2011 21 1 WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 2 SO WHAT IS THE STUDENT SENATE FOR CALIFORNIA 3 COMMUNITY COLLEGES? 4 OUR ACRONYM IS DOUBLE S TRIPLE C, SSCCC. WE ARE 5 AN OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED STATEWIDE STUDENT ORGANIZATION BY 6 THE BOARD OF GOVERNOR'S AND THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. WE 7 REPRESENT 112 OF THE LOCAL STUDENT GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE 8 STATE OF CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE A FORMAL AND EFFECTIVE MEANS 9 FOR REPRESENTING THE STUDENTS. WE HAVE MONTHLY COUNCIL 10 MEETINGS THAT WE HOLD IN SACRAMENTO, AS WELL AS BI-ANNUAL 11 GENERAL ASSEMBLIES. 12 MS. ST. HILL: NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 13 THE MISSION OF SSCCC IS TO PURSUE POLICIES THAT 14 WILL IMPROVE COLLEGE ACCESS FOR STUDENTS, PROMOTE STUDENT 15 SUCCESS, ENGAGE AND EMPOWER LOCAL STUDENT LEADERS AND 16 ENRICH THE COLLEGIATE EXPERIENCE AT ALL CALIFORNIA 17 COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 18 MS. RICHARDS: SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE 19 REPRESENTATION IN WHICH WE SERVE AS A VOICE FOR ALL OF THE 20 CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS IN MATTERS OF 21 STATEWIDE CONCERNS TO THE BOARD OF GOVERNOR'S, THE 22 CONSULTATION COUNCIL, AND OTHER STATEWIDE BOARDS, 23 COMMITTEES, AND AD HOC GROUPS. WE COLLABORATE TO FOSTER 24 RELATIONSHIPS WITH DISTRICT STUDENT BOARDS AND LOCAL 25 STUDENT SENATES AND OTHER STATE WIDE AGENCIES AND MARCH 24, 2011 22 1 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN STUDENT 2 AFFAIRS. 3 FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, WE FUNCTION AS A 4 DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED AND EMPOWERED BODY. WE REMAIN 5 ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR CONSTITUENCY. AND WE EXPRESS THE 6 GENERAL WILL OF THE STUDENTS IN FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH 7 RESPONSIBILITIES IN OUR ROLES. 8 COMMUNICATION, WE PROVIDE ONGOING AND WIDE 9 SPREAD DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION TO ENHANCE STUDENT 10 LEADERSHIP ON THE CAMPUSES STATEWIDE. 11 MS. ST. HILL: THE COUNCIL IS COMPRISED OF 10 12 AT-LARGE SENATORS, 20 REGIONAL SENATORS, AND 5 EXECUTIVE 13 OFFICERS DERIVED FROM THOSE 30 SENATORS. THIS IS ACTUALLY 14 ABOUT TO CHANGE. THE STUDENTS OF THE STATE JUST VOTED TO 15 REMOVE THE 10 AT-LARGE SENATOR POSITIONS GIVING ONE 16 REGIONAL SENATOR TO EACH ADDITIONAL -- TO EACH REGION. SO 17 THERE'S 10 REGIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE STATE BY THE 18 COLOR COORDINATION. EACH REGION HAS 7 TO 14 COLLEGES. 19 THE EXECUTIVE OFFICERS ARE ELECTED FROM THE 20 REGIONAL SENATORS AND THE REGIONAL SENATORS ARE ELECTED BY 21 THE DELEGATES IN EACH REGION. EACH REGION HAS ONE 22 DELEGATE PER SCHOOL. 23 MS. RICHARDS: OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE DO AS A 24 COUNCIL? 25 CURRENTLY, WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMITTEES. AND AS MARCH 24, 2011 23 1 YOU NOTE HERE, THESE ARE ALL THE COMMITTEES THAT WE 2 CURRENTLY HAVE. THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS MINE AS 3 THE TREASURER FOR THE STUDENT SENATE. WE MANAGE THE 4 FINANCES AND MAKE SURE WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO ALL OF THE 5 FUNDS THAT ARE DONATED ACROSS THE STATE TO US FOR ADVOCACY 6 PURPOSES. 7 WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE 8 ACTUALLY DO. ONE OF THEM THAT YOU WILL HAVE AT YOUR DESK 9 OR AT YOUR SPOT IS THE STUDENT REPRESENTATION FEE MANUAL. 10 THIS MANUAL I ACTUALLY AUTHORED. IT WAS ONE OF MY 11 PROJECTS AS AN AT-LARGE SENATOR LAST YEAR. WE WERE ABLE 12 TO BRING IT TO THE STUDENTS. THE CONSTITUENTS ACROSS THE 13 STATE ADOPTED THIS AS OUR OFFICIAL MANUAL TO ASSIST THE 14 COLLEGES TO UNDERSTAND THE STUDENT REPRESENTATION FEE TO 15 MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE FUNDS TO REPRESENT THEMSELVES 16 BEFORE OFFICIALS, LOCAL, DISTRICT, CITY AND STATE. SO 17 THIS IS DEFINITELY A VALUABLE TOOL. WE HAVE 51 OF OUR 18 COLLEGES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE A STUDENT REPRESENTATION FEE 19 AND THIS GUIDE ACTUALLY WILL HELP THE OTHER COLLEGES TO 20 OBTAIN IT AT THEIR CAMPUS. 21 SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE WORK 22 WITH SEVERAL SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES ACROSS THE STATE 23 SUCH AS THE CALIFORNIA BOARD OF GOVERNORS. LINDSEY IS 24 ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES THAT ATTENDS THE BOARD 25 OF GOVERNOR'S MEETINGS WHEN THEY OCCUR. WE ACTUALLY HAVE MARCH 24, 2011 24 1 TWO MEMBERS THAT ATTEND THAT. 2 WE HAVE OUR CONSULTATION COUNCIL AND WORK 3 GROUPS, SUCH AS THE BUDGET TASK FORCE. THAT'S HELD EVERY 4 THURSDAY. THE CALL-IN MEETING BY DEAN TROY NOW, VICE 5 CHANCELLOR TROY. WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WITH THE 6 ACADEMIC SENATE, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THE CURRICULUM 7 COMMITTEE, THE EDUCATIONAL POLICIES COMMITTEES. 8 WE ACTUALLY HAVE APPOINTMENTS TO THE STUDENT AID 9 COMMISSION AND THE CCLC, WHICH IS THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY 10 COLLEGE LEAGUE, AND MANY, MANY MORE. WE HAVE 11 APPROXIMATELY 18 ADVISORY COMMITTEES IN ADDITION TO OTHER 12 ADVOCACY GROUPS THAT WE DO PARTICIPATE IN. 13 MS. ST. HILL: SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF 14 INFORMATION ABOUT SSCCC. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE 15 INFORMATION, YOU CAN GO TO STUDENTSENATECCC.ORG. THANK 16 YOU. 17 MS. RICHARDS: NOW, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE 18 MAY HAVE A MARCH IN MARCH VIDEO TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE 19 ACCOMPLISHED. 20 DO WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE? 21 SPEAKER UNKNOWN: NO. 22 MS. RICHARDS: IF NOT, IF I COULD JUST SHARE 23 WITH YOU SOME OF THE NUMBERS, I'M ON THE BEAN COUNTER. 24 I WAS STATE LOGISTICS COORDINATOR FOR THE MARCH 25 IN MARCH, AND I HAD A WONDERFUL TEAM WITH THE STUDENT MARCH 24, 2011 25 1 SENATE. WE, FOR THE FIRST TIME, HAD 251 BUSES OF STUDENTS 2 ARRIVE WHICH WE WERE OVERWHELMED WITH. THAT DOESN'T COUNT 3 THE OTHER BUSES THAT DID NOT ARRIVE AND PARK AT THE 4 CALIFORNIA AUTO MUSEUM FOR THE EVENT. 5 OUR NUMBERS APPROXIMATE WE HAD BETWEEN 18,000 6 AND 19,000 ATTENDEES FOR THIS EVENT. SO WE WERE TOLD THAT 7 OUR VOICES WERE HEARD INTO THE CAPITAL, ALL THE WAY TO THE 8 OTHER SIDE OF THE CAPITAL. THE ADVOCACY WORK THAT WE DO 9 HAS BEEN HEARD. AND WE HOPE TO HAVE MADE SOMEWHAT OF A 10 DIFFERENCE. 11 WE ALSO HAD FACULTY, ADMINISTRATION, AND OTHER 12 GRASSROOTS GROUPS THAT JOINED US AS WELL, SO THIS IS SOME 13 OF THE WORK THAT WE DO. WE ARE FOCUSED IN ALL AREAS, 14 INCLUDING EQUITY AND DIVERSITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY 16 MUCH. 17 MS. ST. HILL: THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM 19 OUR TRUSTEES? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL 21 YOUR WORK. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE STUDENTS 22 REPRESENTED IN THE HALLS OF GOVERNMENT. AND DON'T 23 UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ROLE OR YOUR POWER TO EFFECT CHANGE 24 WITH YOUR POLICY MAKERS. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY ON 25 BEHALF OF OUR INSTITUTION AND ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING UP MARCH 24, 2011 26 1 THERE. KEEP AT IT. THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3 OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM VII, ACCREDITATION. THIS 4 IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. 5 KAREN SAGINOR I THINK IS GOING TO LEAD THIS 6 DISCUSSION. 7 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 8 PRESIDENT. MYSELF AND DR. MURILLO ARE CO-CHAIRS OF THE 9 ACCREDITATION STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE ACCREDITATION 10 EFFORT. 11 I'VE ASKED MY FRIEND HERE TO PASS OUT A VERY 12 BRIEF HANDOUT ABOUT ACCREDITATION. AND I AM GOING TO SAY 13 JUST A FEW WORDS, MOSTLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FOLKS IN 14 THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS. 15 WE GET ACCREDITED ON A REGULAR BASIS FROM WASC, 16 THE WESTERN ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES, WHO 17 BASICALLY WANT TO LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING THE 18 STUDENTS THE EDUCATION THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GIVING 19 THEM AND SO THERE ARE STANDARDS. THERE'S A LIST OF THINGS 20 THAT WE NEED TO LIVE UP TO. AND THOSE ARE SPLIT INTO FOUR 21 AREAS. 22 AND ONE OF THOSE AREAS PARTICULARLY DEALS WITH 23 THE BOARD AND OTHER GOVERNANCE STRUCTURES. AND THERE'S AN 24 AREA THAT DEALS PARTICULARLY WITH EDUCATIONAL OFFERINGS. 25 THERE'S AN AREA THAT DEALS WITH RESOURCES AND SO FORTH. MARCH 24, 2011 27 1 ALSO, THIS LITTLE HANDOUT JUST SORT OF 2 SUMMARIZES WHAT THOSE AREAS ARE. WE DON'T GET TO JUST 3 WRITE OUR OWN REPORT. WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE STANDARDS 4 THAT ARE SET TO US. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE WASC GROUP 5 GIVES US LISTS OF QUESTIONS TO ANSWER. OKAY? 6 SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT THE COLLEGE WRITES 7 ITS OWN SELF-STUDY. WE LOOK FIRST AT OURSELVES; HOW ARE 8 WE LIVING UP TO THESE STANDARDS, AND WE WRITE A REPORT, A 9 SELF-STUDY REPORT. AND WE SEND THAT REPORT OFF, AND IT'S 10 READ BY A VISITING TEAM OF FOLKS FROM OTHER COLLEGES WHO 11 WILL READ OUR REPORT, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE SAID OF 12 OURSELVES, AND THEN THEY WILL COME AND VISIT US AND TALK 13 TO US AND SEE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE LIVING UP TO THESE THINGS. 14 AND BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN OUR REPORT THAT 15 WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS THINGS WE MAY NEED TO WORK ON AND 16 THINGS THAT THEY SEE WHEN THEY COME AND SAY, OH, THESE ARE 17 THINGS THEY NEED TO WORK ON, THEY COULD DO ANY NUMBER OF 18 THINGS. THEY CAN SAY, YOU ARE DOING JUST A GREAT JOB. 19 YOU ARE ACCREDITED FOR ANOTHER SIX YEARS. 20 MORE OFTEN, THEY TEND TO SAY, YOU ARE DOING 21 OKAY, BUT HERE SOME OF THINGS YOU NEED TO WORK ON. LET US 22 KNOW HOW YOU ARE DOING WITH THEM AND WE GET REPORTS ON A 23 REGULAR BASIS. 24 SO THE POINT THAT WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE 25 STARTED WORK ON OUR SELF-STUDY LAST FALL. WE PRODUCED A MARCH 24, 2011 28 1 VERY ROUGH DRAFT BY JANUARY, END OF JANUARY. BASICALLY 2 WORKED ON IT A LITTLE MORE, PUT IT OUT FOR EVERYONE IN THE 3 COLLEGE TO LOOK AT, AND WE BROUGHT THAT -- ACTUALLY, AT 4 THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE ON THE EVE OF GETTING IT UP AND 5 OUT AND READY FOR YOU. 6 SO RIGHT AFTER YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU WERE ALL 7 SENT AN E-MAIL WITH THE LINKS TO FIND THE FULL REPORT 8 ONLINE. AT THIS POINT OUR FULL REPORT IS ABOUT 183 PAGES, 9 SO I DIDN'T BRING COPIES OF THE FULL REPORT FOR EVERYONE 10 TO LOOK AT, BUT IT IS ONLINE FOR FOLKS TO LOOK AT. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU SAID, YOU ARE OPEN 12 PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED -- 13 MS. SAGINOR: IT HAS, BUT I CAN AGAIN -- THE 14 ACTUAL URL. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 16 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY, I WILL READ IT HERE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 MS. SAGINOR: ACTUALLY, THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT 19 IS TO GO TO THE "HOME PAGE." GO TO THE "CITY COLLEGE FIND 20 BOX." AND IN THE "CITY COLLEGE FIND BOX" TYPE IN THE WORD 21 "ACCREDITATION." AND IF YOU COULD SPELL "ACCREDITATION," 22 WHICH I HAVE FINALLY LEARNED TO DO, THEN IT WILL BE THE 23 TOP CHOICE. 24 THE FULL URL IS 25 HTTP://WWW.CCSF.EDU/OFFICES/RESEARCH_PLANNING/STUDY.HTML. MARCH 24, 2011 29 1 AND THAT'S A PAGE THAT HAS LINKS TO ALL THE 2 VARIOUS RELEVANT DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE FULL ROUGH 3 DRAFT. 4 SO I'M HERE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU. THIS IS A 5 DISCUSSION TIME. WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF DO WITH IT AS 6 YOU WISH. IF YOU'VE BROUGHT ISSUES, IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT 7 IT, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO US IN 8 PUBLIC, OF COURSE, WE ALSO TAKE FEEDBACK. YOU CAN E-MAIL 9 US FEEDBACK INDIVIDUALLY. IT'S UP TO YOU. I HAVE SOME 10 OTHER MATERIALS IF YOU -- YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU 11 WANT TO DO. 12 DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO 13 START WITH OR -- OKAY, THANKS. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT RIZZO. 16 I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 17 MS. SAGINOR: SURE. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR 19 A LONG TIME. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN 20 WORKING ON THE SELF-STUDY, BUT YOU CERTAINLY DO KNOW THE 21 HISTORY OF THE SELF-STUDY. 22 COULD YOU JUST TELL US HOW WELL WE DID LAST 23 YEAR -- I MEAN THE LAST SIX YEARS. AND THE LENGTH OF THE 24 AMOUNT OF TIME YOU GET THE ACCREDITATION FOR, AND THE WAY 25 WE DID IT EVEN BEFORE THAT WITH THE TWO SELF STUDIES. MARCH 24, 2011 30 1 DO YOU REMEMBER -- 2 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- WE DID MUCH MORE -- 4 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- THEN WHAT WE WERE ASKED 6 FOR -- 7 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- AND THE RESULTS WERE 9 EXCELLENT. 10 AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, COULD YOU JUST TALK 11 ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW IN THIS SELF-STUDY WITH THE 12 ACCREDITATION. JUST KNOWING THE GUIDELINES AND HOW WELL 13 WE DID IT THE TWO OTHER TIMES AND TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT 14 ABOUT THE TWO AREAS THAT WE WEREN'T DOING SO WELL IN AND 15 HOW WE HAVE MET THE STANDARD AND ARE ON OUR WAY NOW TO THE 16 NEW ACCREDITATION. 17 MAYBE THAT'S TOO MANY QUESTIONS, I'LL JUST -- 18 MS. SAGINOR: IT IS A LOT. I DON'T THINK I CAN 19 TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE THINGS. 20 SOME OF THE SPECIFICS I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE 21 LAST SELF-STUDY CYCLE IN TERMS OF A -- I DIDN'T HELP TO 22 PRODUCE IT. I WAS A CONSUMER OF IT. I LOOKED AT IT AND I 23 FOLLOWED IT. 24 OUR ACCREDITING BODY SORT OF CHANGES FROM TIME 25 TO TIME WHAT IT IS THEY WANT US TO DO. AND SIX YEARS AGO, MARCH 24, 2011 31 1 WHEN WE DID THE LAST TIME AROUND, IT'S USUALLY EVERY SIX 2 YEARS. THEY HAD COME OUT WITH SORT OF NEW SET. THEY 3 WANTED US TO ADDRESS STANDARDS. AND THEY ALSO WANTED US 4 TO PULL OUT THEMES. THEY GAVE US A LIST OF THEMES THEY 5 WANTED US TO ADDRESS, AND THEY DIDN'T GIVE US VERY -- THEY 6 DIDN'T SAY, HERE'S EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT US TO DO IT. AND 7 IT WAS FAIRLY NEW AT THAT POINT, SO WE COULDN'T REALLY SEE 8 WHAT THE OTHER SCHOOLS DO WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WE SPEND A 9 LOT OF TIME DOING THAT OR NOT A LOT OF TIME, BUT WE LOOK 10 AT THAT. 11 SO WE BASICALLY, AS YOU SAY, WE DID KIND OF A 12 VERY LARGE REPORT BECAUSE IT HAD AN ENTIRE SECTION ON 13 HERE'S ALL THE THEMES, AN ENTIRE SECTION ON THE THEMES AND 14 THEN AN ENTIRE SECTION ADDRESSING THE STANDARDS, AND 15 THAT'S HOW WE DID IT THAT TIME AROUND. 16 AND THEIR RESPONSE TO THAT REPORT WAS THIS IS 17 ALL GOOD, BUT WE WILL WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU IN THREE 18 YEARS ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. 19 AND ACTUALLY, DR. MURILLO IS OUR ACCREDITATION 20 LIAISON OFFICER AND IS THE ONE WHO SORT OF IS THE KEEPER 21 OF THE LETTERS OF THE RESPONSES THAT WE GET. SO SHE COULD 22 TELL YOU BETTER WHAT THOSE THINGS WERE THAT THEY ASKED US 23 TO LOOK AT. I KNOW ONE OF THEM IS FINANCES. IT'S SORT OF 24 ALWAYS THAT. 25 BUT DO YOU WANT TO SAY BRIEFLY WHAT THEY WERE? MARCH 24, 2011 32 1 VCAA MURILLO: SOME OF THE CRITICAL THINGS THAT 2 CAME UP LAST TIME HAD TO DO WITH STUDENT LEARNING 3 OUTCOMES, THE DEVELOPMENT AND LOOKING AT THE ASSESSMENT 4 PROCESS AND COMPLETING THAT CYCLE. AND WE HAVE BEEN 5 MOVING ALONG IN A VERY STRONG FASHION IN THE LAST FEW 6 YEARS IN DEVELOPING THOSE COURSES AND PROGRAMS. 7 ANOTHER PIECE THAT WAS VERY CRITICAL WAS ALSO 8 THE INTEGRATION OF PLANNING WITH BUDGETING. AND SINCE THE 9 LAST ACCREDITATION VISIT, WE HAVE REINSTITUTED THE PROGRAM 10 REVIEW PROCESS. WE ARE IN THE THIRD YEAR PILOT. IT'S 11 MOVING ALONG IN A VERY STRONG FASHION. AND THE CHALLENGES 12 INTEGRATING THAT WITH THE BUDGETING PROCESS GIVEN THAT WE 13 HAVE SUCH A CHALLENGE WITH OUR BUDGET. BUT THE GOAL IS 14 THAT WE COULD SHOW FORTH THE INTEGRATION DOES EXIST AND 15 THAT WE ARE USING THE DATA TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. 16 AND THE THIRD PIECE HAS TO DO WITH THE BUDGETING 17 PIECE REGARDING RESERVES FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE. 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: LONG-TERM LIABILITY. 19 VCAA MURILLO: LONG-TERM LIABILITY. AND THAT'S 20 A CHALLENGE FOR EVERY SCHOOL IN THIS STATE. 21 IN TERMS OF THE REPORT LAST TIME, WE HAD TWO 22 REPORTS. ONE THAT WAS FOCUSED ON THE STANDARDS AND ONE 23 WAS FOCUSED ON THE THEMES. AND THIS TIME AROUND WE'VE 24 DECIDED AS A COLLEGE TO DO ONE REPORT, AND WE ARE GOING TO 25 INTEGRATE THE THEMES INTO EACH OF THE STANDARDS, AND MARCH 24, 2011 33 1 THAT'S THE GOAL. IT'S GOING TO BE A MUCH SIMPLER REPORT. 2 STILL A LOT OF SELF-ASSESSMENT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ONE 3 REPORT RATHER THAN TWO SEPARATE REPORTS. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, 5 WOULD YOU TELL THE PUBLIC HOW WE DID ON THE PREVIOUS 6 ACCREDITATION AND EVEN THE ONE BEFORE THAT AND THE AMOUNT 7 OF TIME THAT YOU ARE ACCREDITED FOR. 8 VCAA MURILLO: THE TIME PERIOD FOR ACCREDITATION 9 IS SIX YEARS. WE WERE ACCREDITED LAST TIME, BUT REQUESTED 10 TO PROVIDE SOME FOLLOW UP AND PROGRESS REPORTS ALONG THE 11 WAY. NORMALLY WITH FULL ACCREDITATION REAFFIRMATION WITH 12 NO FOLLOW-UP REPORTS, ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS AFTER 13 THREE YEARS IS DO A MID-CYCLE REPORT. 14 IN OUR CASE WE HAD TO DO A FOLLOW-UP REPORT. WE 15 HAD A VISIT BEFORE I CAME ONTO THE COLLEGE. I BELIEVE IT 16 WAS A SITE VISIT. AND WE'VE HAD SOME PROGRESS REPORTS. 17 BUT ALL ALONG THE WAY, I THINK THEY FELT THAT WE WERE 18 PROGRESSING ACCORDINGLY. AND SO IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF 19 KEEPING THEM INFORMED AS TO HOW WE WERE PROGRESSING WITH 20 OUR PILOT PROJECTS AND STAGES THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING 21 TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND WE GOT THE SIX YEARS. 23 VCAA MURILLO: WE GOT THE SIX YEARS THEN AND THE 24 LAST TIME AROUND WAS TWO YEARS AGO, AND THEY SAID, JUST 25 GET READY NOW FOR THE RECEIVE SELF-STUDY. AND THAT'S WHAT MARCH 24, 2011 34 1 WE HAVE BEEN DOING. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 3 MS. SAGINOR: IF ONE WANTED MORE DETAIL ON WHAT 4 THE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES ARE AND HOW OTHER COLLEGES ARE 5 DOING, WE HAVE LINKS ON OUR OWN WEBSITE. YOU KNOW, HERE 6 ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THEY CAN SAY AND HERE ARE THE 7 MOST RECENT SET OF REPORTS THAT CAME OUT FOR OTHER 8 COLLEGES OF WHAT WAS SAID FOR THEM. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: (INAUDIBLE.) 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TRUSTEE NGO. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK 14 ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT. I THINK IT IS VERY 15 CRITICAL DOCUMENT SELF-STUDY I THINK LENDS ITSELF TO A LOT 16 OF DIFFERENT RESULTS. AND, OF COURSE, IT'S A SELF-STUDY, 17 SO THERE'S SOME BIAS AS TO HOW YOU ASSESS YOURSELF 18 NATURALLY. 19 AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A DRAFT, BUT I HAVE TO SAY 20 THAT I AM A LITTLE DISTURBED ABOUT HOW IN SOME WAYS THE 21 LANGUAGE IN THIS DOCUMENT IS A VERY POLITICAL DOCUMENT. 22 AND THAT WAS TRUE OF THE DRAFT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS 23 WELL. THERE WAS SOME POLITICS IN THESE DOCUMENTS, AND I 24 DON'T THINK IT IS A VERY GOOD THING TO DO. 25 DR. BERG WAS INVITED. I THINK YOU INVITED ALL MARCH 24, 2011 35 1 OF US TO -- I DON'T REMEMBER THE BLANKET INVITATION, BUT 2 YOU INVITED DR. BERG TO WORK IN THIS WORKING GROUP FOR 3 GOVERNANCE, LEADERSHIP AND GOVERNANCE STANDARDS FOR WHICH 4 INCLUDES DECISION MAKING RULES AND PROCESSES AND BOARD AND 5 ADMINISTRATIVE ORGANIZATION. 6 YOU KNOW, LOOK I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISSUE 7 AROUND EQUITY IN GENDERED A LOT OF CONFLICT AND PEOPLE ARE 8 STILL UPSET ABOUT IT. BUT THE FACT IS IF WE ARE GOING TO 9 CONTINUE TO MAKE POLITICS OUT THINGS THAT SHOULD NOT BE 10 POLITICAL, WE CAN DO THAT. IF YOU WANT US TO DO THAT, WE 11 CAN. I MEAN YOU ARE ASSESSING THE BOARD AND OUR ROLE IN 12 LOOKING AT THE INSTITUTION. IF YOU WANT TO INSERT 13 POLITICS INTO THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE EXISTS AND I 14 WILL GET THOSE DRAFTS TO YOU, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO 15 ESCALATE THEM. 16 I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHT THAT YOU TAKE THIS 17 DOCUMENT AND USE IT AS AN EXCUSE TO HAMMER THE BOARD. 18 IT'S JUST NOT GOOD. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THIS INSTITUTION. 19 AND I THOUGHT WE WERE BEYOND IT. BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND 20 LIKE WE ARE BEYOND WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR. 21 BUT IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO LITIGATE IT WITH 22 THIS DOCUMENT AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE CAN DO THAT. WE 23 CAN SUBMIT ALTERNATIVE DOCUMENTS, ALTERNATIVE RECORDS IF 24 WE WOULD LIKE TO. 25 THERE'S A LITTLE BIAS ON HOW THIS FRAMED, MARCH 24, 2011 36 1 NATURALLY. AND IF YOU WANT TO COMPLETE THE ENTIRE RECORD 2 FOR THIS DOCUMENT, WE CAN. AND I WILL GIVE YOU MY CITES 3 OR I WILL SUBMIT A COMPLETELY SEPARATE REPORT. BUT THERE 4 IS NO MENTION OF -- THERE'S NOT BALANCE IN THIS DOCUMENT. 5 AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL AS A BOARD HOW WE 6 ACCEPT THIS FRAMING OF OUR ROLE WITH THIS INSTITUTION. 7 IF WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT A FRAME THAT WE HAVE 8 NO ROLE IN HOW WE GOVERN AND ASSESS AND MONITOR THIS 9 INSTITUTION, BE CAREFUL WHAT THIS DOCUMENT SAYS AND BE 10 CAREFUL WHAT YOU ACCEPT IN THIS DOCUMENT. THIS IS GOING 11 TO THE ACCREDITATION FOLKS. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I ASK -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M NOT -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I'M SORRY. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I KNOW THIS IS A DRAFT, BUT 16 THIS IS A DRAFT THAT'S NOW PUBLIC. RIGHT? 17 SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL OF WHAT WE WRITE. 18 AND I DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE IT. BUT I KNOW THIS IS A 19 DRAFT. AND YOU COMMENDED TRUSTEE BERG FOR SPENDING TIME 20 WORKING WITH THIS GROUP FOR THIS STANDARD IV. I WOULD 21 LOVE TO PARTICIPATE IN HELPING TO WORK ON STANDARD IV AND 22 ACTUALLY ALL THE OTHER ONES AS WELL. 23 AND IF THERE'S A MEETING TIME AND A REGULAR 24 SCHEDULE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WHERE YOU HAVE BOARD MEMBERS 25 OR ANY OTHER GROUP WORKING ON THIS DOCUMENT, PLEASE LET ME MARCH 24, 2011 37 1 KNOW ABOUT THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO 2 PARTICIPATE AND ENGAGE IN THIS OFFERING OF A LARGER 3 DISCUSSION AMONG THE BOARD. 4 BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE 5 GOING TO INSIST ON DOING THIS, JUST BE CAREFUL WHAT PATH 6 WE GO DOWN. I DON'T THINK IT IS VERY WISE THAT WE DO 7 THIS. AND THE WAY THIS IS FRAMED -- AND I DON'T THINK I 8 AM THE ONLY BOARD MEMBER ON HERE THAT BELIEVES THIS. WE 9 HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF WHO WE ARE SUBMITTING THIS 10 DOCUMENT TO AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT ASSESSING 11 OURSELVES IN A VERY FAIR AND BALANCED WAY AND NOT 12 POLITICALLY. AND THAT'S MY FEEDBACK. 13 PLEASE LET US KNOW ABOUT THESE SESSIONS THAT YOU 14 HAVE, THESE WORKING SESSIONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO 15 PARTICIPATE FROM NOW ON. 16 MS. SAGINOR: CAN I SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 17 PROCESS? 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BEFORE YOU DO -- 19 MS. SAGINOR: SURE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- COULD I ASK IS THE BOARD -- 21 COULD THE BOARD SUBMIT ITS OWN COMMENTS TO THE 22 ACCREDITATION AUTHORITY IN PARALLEL TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING 23 IF IT WANTED TO. IF THE BOARD DISAGREED WITH SOME OF 24 THIS, COULD IT SUBMIT ITS OWN. 25 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY, CAN I ANSWER THAT AS PART OF MARCH 24, 2011 38 1 TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY, SO THE PROCESSES THAT WE 4 HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING IS TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING ON 5 DRAFTS. NATALIE BERG STEPPED UP LAST FALL WHEN I PUT OUT 6 A GENERAL CALL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS I COULD SEND IT TO 7 SAYING, IF YOU WANT TO HELP, COME FORWARD, PLEASE HELP. 8 AND SHE WAS ONE OF -- THERE WAS PROBABLY 100 AND I DON'T 9 KNOW 15, 120 PEOPLE WHO BASICALLY DID LITTLE PIECES. 10 RIGHT? 11 WE FARMED OUT ALL THE LITTLE QUESTIONS, ALL THE 12 SECTIONS OF THE STANDARDS INTO LITTLE PIECES AND VARIOUS 13 PEOPLE WORKED ON THOSE AND THEN SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE GOT 14 TOGETHER AND PUT THEIR PIECES TOGETHER AND SO FORTH. SO 15 THAT'S WHERE SHE GOT INVOLVED, AND YOU COULD HAVE THEN. 16 I'M SORRY IF YOU DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU COULD BECAUSE I 17 DID INVITE AND MAKE IT GENERAL TO THE BOARD. 18 THEN THOSE SORT OF LITTLE PIECES WERE PUT 19 TOGETHER BY CO-CHAIRS. THERE'S FOUR. AS I SAID, FOUR 20 STANDARDS. AND EACH OF THE STANDARDS HAS EITHER TWO OR 21 THREE CO-CHAIRS. THE LARGEST STANDARD, WHICH IS STANDARD 22 II IS, YOU KNOW, 2(A) IS A REALLY BIG PART AND 2(B), SO 23 THERE'S SOME MORE PEOPLE SORT OF INVOLVED IN PUTTING THOSE 24 PIECES TOGETHER. 25 THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY THE CO-CHAIRS WHICH MARCH 24, 2011 39 1 THEY BASICALLY DID THEIR -- WE CALLED IT THE PRELIMINARY 2 DRAFT. THEY DID THAT IN DECEMBER AND EARLY JANUARY AND 3 THEY BROUGHT IT TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. 4 AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE HAS REPRESENTATIVES 5 FROM ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, INCLUDING THE ACADEMIC 6 SENATE, INCLUDING THE UNIONS, INCLUDING CLASSIFIED, 7 INCLUDING STUDENTS, INCLUDING THE BOARD, AND SO PRESIDENT 8 MARKS WAS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE LAST FALL WHEN HE WAS 9 PRESIDENT AND THEN WHEN WE HAD A NEW PRESIDENT ELECTED. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO BECAME A MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE. 11 HE IS THE EX OFFICIO. 12 MILTON MARKS -- TRUSTEE MARKS HAS CONTINUED TO 13 COME TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS. IN FACT THE LAST 14 STEERING COMMITTEE I THINK BOTH OF THEM WERE THERE. 15 THE PRELIMINARY DRAFT THAT WAS DONE IN DECEMBER 16 WAS BROUGHT TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AND AS A GROUP, WE 17 WENT OVER IT PAGE-BY-PAGE WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED ON THIS 18 PAGE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED ON THAT PAGE, SENT IT BACK. 19 I, WHO WAS ACTUALLY AT THE STEERING COMMITTEE 20 MEETINGS, I COULDN'T CONTROL WHO WOULD COME. I PUBLICIZED 21 IT TO ALL THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS WELL IN ADVANCE 22 AND, YOU KNOW, TOOK WHOEVER COULD COME WAS THERE AND WENT 23 OVER THE DRAFTS AT THAT TIME. THE DRAFTS WERE SENT TO 24 EVERY MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE TO PUT THEIR 25 COMMENTS IN AT THAT POINT. AND THAT WAS, AS I SAID, VERY MARCH 24, 2011 40 1 PRELIMINARY. 2 AND STANDARD IV, IN PARTICULAR, WAS ONE THAT 3 NEEDED A LOT MORE WORK. SO THERE WAS A LOT MORE WORK DONE 4 BETWEEN WHEN THE STEERING COMMITTEE SAW IT AND WHEN IT 5 CAME BACK AS THE ROUGH DRAFT. 6 SO AT THIS POINT AS WE SAY, IT'S THE RAW DRAFT 7 OR THE ROUGH DRAFT. THIS IS NOT THE FINISHED PRODUCT AT 8 ALL. WHAT WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO DO, AND I HAD SAID THIS AT 9 ONE PLACE WHERE I PASSED IT OUT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS 10 IN HERE THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. THERE'S MISTAKES. 11 THERE'S STUFF THAT IS INCOMPLETE. YOU KNOW, TELL US HOW 12 TO MAKE IT BETTER. RIGHT? 13 AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY FOR YOU OR FOR ANY MEMBER 14 OF THE PUBLIC WHO KNOWS THE COLLEGE, OBVIOUSLY, TO SEND US 15 STUFF SAYING YOU KNOW THIS IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT. THIS 16 IS A PROBLEM. YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THIS. YOU SHOULD 17 INCLUDE THIS. AND WE ARE RIGHT AT THE POINT WE'D ASK FOR 18 THAT FEEDBACK TO COME IN BASICALLY TODAY. BUT IF IT COMES 19 IN AFTER TODAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO THROW IT AWAY, WE WILL 20 STILL USE IT. 21 BUT STARTING TODAY, THE CO-CHAIRS ARE GOING TO 22 GO BACK AND TAKE THE ROUGH DRAFTS AND TAKE THE FEEDBACK 23 THEY'VE GOTTEN ON THAT ROUGH DRAFT AND PRODUCE A SECOND 24 DRAFT AND THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH THE SAME CYCLE AGAIN 25 WITH PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO ALL THE CONSTITUENCY GROUPS MARCH 24, 2011 41 1 AND GETTING FEEDBACK BECAUSE IT IS 183 PAGES LONG. IT'S A 2 LITTLE HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO READ ALL OF IT. YOU KNOW, 3 BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO READ AS MUCH OF IT. 4 AND LET'S SEE -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I ASKED A QUESTION. 6 MS. SAGINOR: YES, SO THE GOAL IS FOR US TO 7 PRESENT ONE SELF-STUDY TO THE VISITING TEAM WHEN THEY 8 COME. BUT THERE HAS CERTAINLY BEEN TIMES FOR COLLEGES, 9 AND IT COULD HAPPEN FOR THIS, THAT IF THE COLLEGE 10 COMMUNITY CAN NOT AGREE, RIGHT, ON YES, THIS IS A 11 SELF-STUDY THAT WE CAN AGREE ON, THAT THERE CERTAINLY CAN 12 BE AND THERE HAS IN SOME COLLEGES BEEN MORE THAN ONE 13 REPORT SUBMITTED TO THE WASC TEAM WHEN THEY COME. THAT 14 CERTAINLY HAPPENED. THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, HERE'S ONE 15 SELF-STUDY, AND HERE'S SORT OF THE MINORITY SELF-STUDY 16 SUBMITTED TO THE VISITING TEAM. THAT CERTAINLY CAN 17 HAPPEN. 18 SO IN FACT I THINK IT IS BETTER FOR THE COLLEGE 19 IF WE HAVE ONE REPORT TO SUBMIT WHEN THE VISITING TEAM 20 COMES. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK TO US AND LET'S 21 SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN ALL 22 AGREE ON. BUT IF WE CAN'T AGREE ON A SINGLE DOCUMENT, 23 THEN, OF COURSE, WE WOULD PRESENT -- 24 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EVEN IF WE AGREE ON 25 ONE DOCUMENT, EVEN IF THERE'S ONE OFFICIAL DOCUMENT, ONE MARCH 24, 2011 42 1 OF THE THINGS THAT THE VISITING TEAM DOES WHEN THEY COME 2 IS THEY CAN ASK TO TALK TO WHOMEVER THEY WISH TO TALK TO 3 AND PEOPLE CAN ASK TO TALK TO THEM AND THEIR TIME IS 4 LIMITED, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY WILL. BUT 5 IF THERE'S A LINE WAITING TO TALK TO THEM, THEY WILL 6 CERTAINLY TALK TO PEOPLE. THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT 7 GOT LEFT OUT OF A REPORT. THEY DEFINITELY DO THAT. 8 THEY DON'T SAY, OH, THIS IS THE REPORT. WELL, 9 THIS REPRESENTS EVERYTHING. THEY WANT TO TAKE IN OTHER 10 STUFF. 11 WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IN FEEDBACK IS, YOU KNOW, 12 TO TELL US THE THINGS THAT ARE WRONG. WHAT SHOULD IT SAY 13 INSTEAD? RIGHT? 14 IT'S MOST HELPFUL TO US IF PEOPLE SAY, INSTEAD 15 OF WHAT YOU SAID, THIS IS WHAT IT SHOULD SAY INSTEAD. 16 AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALL THAT CLEAR IN 17 THE DRAFT BECAUSE OF ITS DRAFT NATURE IS THAT WHAT GOES 18 INTO THE REPORT HAS TO HAVE REFERENCES. IT HAS TO REFER 19 TO DOCUMENTS. RIGHT? 20 SO YOU HAVE TO SAY, WELL -- AND THAT'S ONE OF 21 THE THINGS THE VISITING TEAM WILL LOOK AT. THIS WAS IN 22 YOUR REPORT. PLEASE BACK THIS UP. WHERE DID THIS COME 23 FROM? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF I COULD SUGGEST, TRUSTEE 25 NGO, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET SOME EDITS TO MS. SAGINOR SO MARCH 24, 2011 43 1 THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER INCORPORATING THEM. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: JUST TO KIND OF CUT THIS -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WOULD BE 5 HAPPY TO. I JUST THINK -- I'VE ALREADY MADE THE POINT 6 THAT I THINK IT IS A VERY PARTISAN DOCUMENT SO FAR, AND 7 THAT'S TOO BAD. 8 BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY BIG ON COLLEGIALITY 9 LAST YEAR. AND I WOULD THINK THAT WHEN YOU STARTED OR 10 SOMEONE STARTED WRITING ABOUT THE EQUITY HEARINGS OR THE 11 FIGHT OVER ENGLISH CURRICULUM, THAT MAYBE SOMEONE WOULD 12 HAVE SAID, HEY, MAYBE TRUSTEE NGO OR TRUSTEE JACKSON CAN 13 MAYBE RUN THEIR THOUGHTS ON A SELF-ASSESSMENT AS WE WERE 14 MIRED IN THAT ISSUE. AND THAT'S WHY I AM A LITTLE 15 SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE PROCESS. 16 BELIEVE ME, I UNDERSTAND WHAT DRAFT DOCUMENTS 17 MEAN. I MEAN OUR EQUITY RESOLUTION WAS A DRAFT DOCUMENT, 18 SO I GET IT. SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 19 I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TIMETABLE IS IN TERMS OF 20 WHEN YOU WANT THESE EDITS. I ACTUALLY WANT TO SIT IN ON 21 THESE WORKING GROUPS SINCE YOU'VE INVITED ALL OF US TO 22 PARTICIPATE. SO WHOEVER YOUR CO-CHAIRS ARE, I WOULD BE 23 HAPPY TO GET ON SOME E-MAILING LIST OR WHATEVER IT IS 24 SINCE YOU'VE INVITED US ALL TO PARTICIPATE AND DR. BERG 25 HAS PARTICIPATED. AND WE WILL WORK TOGETHER AS I PREPARE MARCH 24, 2011 44 1 THESE DRAFTS TO YOU ON SELF-ASSESSMENT AND THEN WE WILL GO 2 FROM THERE. 3 I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE REFERENCES OR 4 CITATIONS, NONE OF THAT. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE 5 IS THE MANNER OF WHICH THIS WAS DONE. THE ISSUE IS THE 6 TONE IN WHICH IT WAS CRAFTED. AND NOW WE ARE HAVING TO 7 WORK WITH A DOCUMENT THAT I THINK IS STARTING OFF ON THE 8 WRONG FOOT, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON IT. 9 JUST GIVE ME SOME TIMELINES AS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVEN OF 10 US. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD YOU -- 12 MS. SAGINOR: I JUST WANT -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: EXCUSE ME. WE ARE RUNNING OUT 14 OF TIME FOR THIS ITEM. SO IF YOU COULD MAYBE -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: SURE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- GO OFFLINE AND GET THOSE 17 DATES AND TIMES AND THINGS TOGETHER. I WILL GET TO -- 18 MS. SAGINOR: CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING BECAUSE 19 WE ARE NOT AT THIS POINT WORKING AS GROUPS. IT'S MORE 20 WORKING INDIVIDUALLY. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE TWO 21 CO-CHAIRS FOR A STANDARD GET TOGETHER. IT'S NOT REALLY A 22 WORKING GROUP AT THIS POINT, BUT I WILL BE HAPPY TO 23 CONNECT WITH YOU AND WE CAN DO THIS OFFLINE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. MARCH 24, 2011 45 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 2 MS. SAGINOR: ANYTHING ELSE? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAD A -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: I AM UNCOMFORTABLE. I'VE 7 PREPARED FOR A DISCUSSION TONIGHT, AND THAT'S WHAT -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S FINE. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FEEL 10 LIKE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO 11 THINK THAT WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BECAUSE I FEEL UNDER 12 PRESSURE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS, YOU HAVE NOT 14 HAD A CHANCE YET TO SPEAK AND I FULLY -- 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: I HAVE COPIOUS NOTES. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE TELL US WHAT THEY ARE 17 THEN. 18 BUT FIRST, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING -- TRUSTEE 19 JACKSON WANTED TO -- 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I HAVE A WHOLE -- I 21 HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND SO CAN I GO FIRST? 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO 24 THANK ALL THE FOLKS WHO TOOK THE TIME, MOST OF THE TIME 25 NOT EVEN BEING CREDITED SOME OF THESE HOURS BECAUSE I KNOW MARCH 24, 2011 46 1 A LOT OF PEOPLE -- WE ARE SHORT STAFFED. SO I WANT TO 2 THANK EVERYBODY THAT TOOK PART IN THIS. 3 IS IT ACCURATE THAT THIS HAS TO GO BEFORE THE 4 BOARD TO BE APPROVED? 5 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO WE HAVE FINAL -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, SO WE CAN MAKE CHANGES? 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO WE HAVE FINAL 9 APPROVAL. SO INSTEAD OF MAKING A MINORITY REPORT OR SOME 10 OTHER TYPE OF OFFSHOOT, SHOULDN'T WE PUT THIS INTO THE 11 POLICY COMMITTEE OR SHOULDN'T WE PUT THIS INTO THE 12 INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY DISCUSS 13 THIS DOCUMENT AND THEN LET THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES MAKE OUR 14 OWN EDITS AND OUR OWN CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT, JUST AS WE 15 WOULD PUT OUR STUFF IN SHARED GOVERNANCE. AND YOU GUYS 16 WOULD MAKE CHANGES AND YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE EDITS AS WELL. 17 SO IN TERMS OF JUST IN THE SPIRIT OF SHARED 18 GOVERNANCE, SINCE THIS DOCUMENT GOES TO THE BOARD FOR 19 FINAL APPROVAL AND WE NOW HAVE A -- I GUESS I WILL SAY 20 ROBUST COMMITTEE STRUCTURE, WOULD IT NOT BE ACCURATE THAT 21 WHEN YOU GUYS GET THIS DONE, YOU GUYS WILL FORWARD THIS TO 22 US, AND WE WILL GET THIS TO ONE OF OUR COMMITTEES, AND WE 23 WILL HAVE A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT AND 24 MAKE THE EDITS THAT WE FEEL PROPER BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS. 25 MS. SAGINOR: WASC DOES HAVE REQUIREMENTS ABOUT MARCH 24, 2011 47 1 HOW THINGS ARE DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF WASC HAS 2 REQUIREMENTS THAT SAYS IT CAN'T BE SUBSTANTIALLY WRITTEN 3 BY THE BOARD. I DON'T KNOW. SO I CAN'T ACTUALLY ANSWER 4 YOUR QUESTION. IT SOUNDS REASONABLE TO ME, BUT I CAN'T 5 SAY FOR SURE. 6 DO YOU KNOW? 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO IF I MAY. 8 MS. SAGINOR: WILL SOMEBODY WHO HAS MORE 9 EXPERIENCE ABOUT THE PROCESS. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOLD ON. 11 VCAA MURILLO: I THINK THE INTENT OF THE 12 SELF-STUDY IS THERE IS A BROAD DIALOGUE AMONGST ALL 13 CONSTITUENTS, BOARD MEMBERS INCLUDED, AND THAT WE DO THE 14 INTERNAL WORK, WHETHER IT BE THE SUBCOMMITTEE LEVEL ACROSS 15 THE COLLEGE WITH SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE SO THAT 16 WHEN WE COME UP WITH THE FINAL DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE ALL 17 REALLY SUPPORTING THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE SENDING TO -- 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CAN I STOP YOU RIGHT 19 THERE. 20 SO BY HAVING PEOPLE WORK -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I 21 AM INTERESTED IN SUNSHINE AND I AM INTERESTED IN HAVING 22 THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY HAVING AN INPUT INTO 23 THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMUNITY COLLEGE 24 AND, ONCE AGAIN, WE SERVE COMMUNITY. 25 AND SO THE BEST WAY THAT I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, MARCH 24, 2011 48 1 THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE AND BE NOTIFIED AND 2 HAVE DIALOGUE ABOUT THIS IS BY HAVING IT IN OUR COMMITTEE 3 STRUCTURE WHERE WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY RECORD IT. WE HAVE TO 4 ACTUALLY TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT WHEN WE PUT IT IN TERMS 5 OF A STRUCTURE SOMETIMES, WE PROBABLY VERY RARELY GET 6 PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE INSTITUTION AND WE VERY RARELY GET 7 OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. 8 SO I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF MAKING THIS SUNSHINED 9 AND MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC HAS AN ABILITY TO LOOK AT THIS, 10 IT WOULD GO BEST WHERE YOU GUYS DO GET THE SAY. YOU GUYS 11 ARE DRAFTING THE DOCUMENT. WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. THAT'S 12 WHAT WE SAID THE BOARD DOES. WE APPROVE POLICIES. RIGHT? 13 WE HAVE A POLICY POWER, RIGHT? WE ARE POLICY. 14 SO IF THIS IS A POLICY RIGHT HERE AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE 15 THE POLICY, WE SHOULD PUT IT INTO OUR COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. 16 AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT? 17 VCAA MURILLO: I THINK A POLICY DIFFERENTLY FROM 18 A SELF-ASSESSMENT. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS 19 SELF-ASSESS WHAT WE ARE DOING WELL, WHERE WE NEED TO 20 IMPROVE, AND THEN WE TOGETHER DESIGN A PLANNING AGENDA OF 21 HOW TO IMPROVE THOSE AREAS WHERE WE ARE WEAK. AND THAT IS 22 THE GOAL. WE HAVE TO THROUGHLY REVIEW OURSELVES BECAUSE 23 WE DON'T WANT THE COMMISSION TEAM COMING AND THEN 24 REALIZING THAT WE WEREN'T HONEST ABOUT OUR OWN 25 SELF-EVALUATION. THEY WANT US TO BE VERY HONEST IN AREAS MARCH 24, 2011 49 1 THAT WE HAVE DIFFICULTY IN AND TO THE POINT THAT WHEN THEY 2 COME TO VISIT THAT THEY CAN SEE THAT WE ARE ALREADY MOVING 3 TOWARDS THAT PLANNING AGENDA AND DOING SOMETHING TO 4 IMPROVE THOSE AREAS. SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY HONEST WITH 5 OURSELVES. IF NOT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH 6 OUR VISIT. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I DON'T THINK ANYBODY 8 IS TALKING ABOUT LYING ABOUT OURSELVES HERE, BUT I DO 9 THINK IN TERMS OF TRYING TO BRIDGE SOME OF THIS GAP 10 BETWEEN THE COMMENTS THAT TRUSTEE NGO HAS MADE AND, YOU 11 KNOW, AND SOME OF THE PROCESS THAT STARTED. I THINK THE 12 BEST WAY WOULD BE TO HAVE IT IN SOME TYPE OF COMMITTEE SO 13 WE CAN HAVE A HEALTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AGREE. 15 VCAA MURILLO: I THINK SO. I THINK THE 16 INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE 17 THOROUGH CONVERSATION. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AGREE. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF 21 OPINION, NOT FACT, BUT OF A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, THAT'S 22 MISLABELED AS FACT BY THE PERSON STATING A PARTICULAR 23 FACT. HOW ARE THOSE RECONCILED? 24 MS. SAGINOR: TYPICALLY, THE STEERING COMMITTEE 25 IS THE GROUP THAT HAS SORT OF THE FINAL SAY ON THE MARCH 24, 2011 50 1 CONTENT. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 3 VCAA MURILLO: I WOULD LIKE -- MAY I ADD A 4 COMMENT TO THAT? 5 I THINK IF THERE ARE DISCREPANCIES, IT'S REALLY 6 IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOTE THEM BOTH IN THE REPORT. I'VE 7 WRITTEN REPORTS BEFORE WHERE I WOULD STATE, THIS IS WHAT'S 8 REPORTED BY ONE GROUP, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION 9 AND INCLUDE THAT IN THE REPORT AS WELL. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 11 PAGE 155, DID WE APPROVE THE VISION AND MISSION 12 STATEMENTS AT ALL LAST YEAR? 13 MS. SAGINOR: YES, SIR. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 15 ALL THE WAY AT THE BOTTOM LINE. I GET BOTHERED 16 WHEN I HEAR SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES BECAUSE I THINK 17 THAT THOSE SHOULD BE REFERRED TO AS PARTICIPATORY 18 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES. AND I DON'T SEE WHAT THE ANSWER 19 WOULD BE, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST USING PARTICIPATORY 20 GOVERNANCE. 21 MS. SAGINOR: THE SHARED -- 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: I THINK IT LEADS PEOPLE ASTRAY 23 IN TERMS OF THEIR POWER. 24 MS. SAGINOR: THE SHARED GOVERNANCE IS A 25 STRUCTURE THAT'S RECOGNIZED IN THE BOARD POLICIES. THE MARCH 24, 2011 51 1 SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES REFERS TO SPECIFIC COMMITTEES 2 WITH SPECIFIC CHARGES, AND THAT'S PART OF THE POLICY OF 3 THE COLLEGE. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, ARE YOU THE POLICY 5 COMMITTEE CHAIR? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: NATALIE BERG IS. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: NATALIE BERG IS. WELL, I THINK 8 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT SO THAT WE GET IT RIGHT. 9 MS. SAGINOR: ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE 10 SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE? 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT 12 DIFFERS FROM PARTICIPATORY GOVERNMENTS. 13 MS. SAGINOR: SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING, 14 PARTICIPATORY GOVERNANCE MEANS THAT VARIOUS GROUPS ARE 15 ENGAGED TOGETHER IN COMING TO DECISIONS, BUT THERE ISN'T A 16 REAL DEFINITION NECESSARILY OF HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DONE. 17 PARTICIPATORY GOVERNANCE COULD BE, FOR INSTANCE, 18 THAT IF SOMEBODY IS THE PERSON WHO HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY 19 FOR MAKING THE DECISION, BUT BEFORE MAKING THAT DECISION, 20 THEY CONSULT OTHERS AND THEN THEY ARE FREE TO EITHER TAKE 21 THAT ADVICE THEY GET, NOT TAKE THAT ADVICE IT REALLY IS 22 THEIR -- THE SHARED GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE HAS 23 SOME VERY SET THINGS IN TERMS OF THESE KINDS OF 24 RECOMMENDATIONS NEEDS TO COME FROM THIS GROUP. AND HERE'S 25 WHO IS ON THIS GROUP. IT HAS TO HAVE YOU KNOW AT LEAST MARCH 24, 2011 52 1 "X" NUMBER OF STUDENTS, "X" NUMBER OF FACULTY, "X" NUMBER 2 OF CLASSIFIED, "X" NUMBER OF ADMINISTRATORS, WHATEVER THE 3 GROUP IS. RIGHT? 4 AND THERE ARE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT ARE THE 5 RESPONSIBILITY OF COMING FROM PARTICULAR GROUPS. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 7 MS. SAGINOR: AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS PART OF 8 SHARED GOVERNANCE, THERE IS THE ACADEMIC SENATE WHICH IS 9 ONE OF THE PARTS OF SHARED GOVERNANCE. AND THE ACADEMIC 10 SENATE HAS A PARTICULAR ROLE UNDER THE EDUCATION CODE AND 11 UNDER TITLE 5. RIGHT? 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, I THINK I WOULD SUGGEST 13 LOOKING AT PARTICIPATORY GOVERNANCE AS A SUBSET OF SHARED 14 GOVERNANCE. 15 MS. SAGINOR: MAYBE IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND 16 THAT SHARED GOVERNANCE IS A SUBSET OF PARTICIPATORY 17 GOVERNANCE. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. THANK YOU. 19 THERE ARE NO SENIOR VICE CHANCELLORS. ON PAGE 20 156 -- 21 VCAA MURILLO: NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT AT THE TOP, SENIOR VICE 23 CHANCELLORS. 24 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: AREN'T THERE FOUR VICE MARCH 24, 2011 53 1 CHANCELLORS? 2 MS. SAGINOR: AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME, 3 THERE ARE TWO VICE CHANCELLORS, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING 4 TO BE CHANGING VERY SOON. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, I THINK IT'S THREE RATHER 6 THAN RATHER THAN FOUR -- OR TWO. 7 MS. SAGINOR: YEAH, YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL 9 PROVIDES A FORUM FOR DIALOGUES BETWEEN THE VARIOUS 10 CONSTITUENCIES AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL AS WITH THE BOARD OF 11 TRUSTEES VIA THE CHANCELLOR. 12 SO WE GET THE CAC'S RECOMMENDATION TO US, WHICH 13 I UNDERSTAND IS PRESENTED TO US AS A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. 14 DO YOU UNDERSTAND? BUT NOT TOLD THAT WE CAN RESPOND. SO 15 HOW DO WE RESPOND TO THAT PARTICULAR -- 16 MS. SAGINOR: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE 17 RECOMMENDATION OF THE CAC IS ACTUALLY TO THE CHANCELLOR. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 19 MS. SAGINOR: AND IT'S THE CHANCELLOR WHO WORKS 20 WITH THE CAC -- 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 22 MS. SAGINOR: -- THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL. 23 AND YOU ARE THE CHANCELLOR'S BOSS. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 25 MS. SAGINOR: SO THE CHANCELLOR WILL TAKE MARCH 24, 2011 54 1 RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOT AND THEN YOU LET THE CHANCELLOR 2 KNOW WHETHER YOU -- 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, I FOR ONE DON'T FEEL I CAN 4 SAY ANYTHING TO HIM. I DON'T. 5 SO I DON'T FEEL I CAN SAY ANYTHING TO YOU 6 BECAUSE OF THE TIMING AND BECAUSE OF THE LINKAGE OF HOW 7 MUCH, YOU KNOW, CAC IS -- THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH PRESSURE. 8 FOR ME, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH PRESSURE. SO I THINK THAT WE 9 NEED TO DISCUSS THIS. 10 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: I THINK THAT IT'S -- I WOULD 12 LEAVE OUT THE WORD "TRANSPARENCY" AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 13 THIRD PARAGRAPH. "THE TRANSPARENCY ALLOWED FOR TRULY 14 DISTRICT WIDE OWNERSHIP OF OUR INSTITUTIONAL GOALS AND 15 VALUES." I FIND THAT LAUGHABLE. 16 DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STUDENT SUCCESS 17 AND SOCIAL EQUITY RESOLUTION -- NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT 18 THERE ARE -- I TOLD MY COLLEAGUE HERE THAT THERE WAS A -- 19 THAT THIS WAS SIGNIFICANTLY TONED DOWN FROM HOW IT WAS 20 PRESENTED IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE, BUT I DON'T KNOW 21 CONSIDERING WHAT KIND OF REACTION WE GOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW 22 THE BOARD RELATES TO ISSUES THAT WE IDENTIFY FOR 23 OURSELVES. 24 WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE ENABLE THOSE THINGS TO 25 GO FORWARD? MARCH 24, 2011 55 1 MS. SAGINOR: RIGHT. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: THIS WAS AN ACTION THAT THE 3 BOARD IDENTIFIED AND THE COLLEGE KIND OF ROSE UP, SO HOW 4 DO YOU -- HOW DO WE MAKE OUR OPINIONS KNOWN? 5 MS. SAGINOR: ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE AREAS WITHIN 6 THE ACCREDITATION IS TO ASK ABOUT THE BOARD'S 7 SELF-EVALUATION. 8 DOES THE BOARD DO ONE REGULARLY? HOW DOES THE 9 BOARD WORK IT'S SELF-EVALUATION? 10 I THINK THE BOARD HAS TO HELP US WITH ANSWERING 11 THOSE PARTS. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT WE DID ONE OF THOSE. 13 MS. SAGINOR: YES, ACTUALLY AT THE TIME THAT WE 14 PUT THIS TOGETHER, THAT SELF-EVALUATION HAD JUST BEEN PUT 15 OUT AND IT HAD JUST BEEN AGENDIZED FOR DISCUSSION. AND WE 16 DIDN'T KNOW AT THE POINT AT WHICH THIS ROUGH DRAFT WAS 17 BEING PUT TOGETHER WHETHER THERE WAS GOING TO BE CONTINUED 18 DISCUSSION? WAS THERE GOING TO BE FOLLOW UP? 19 THE ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE BOARD'S 20 SELF-EVALUATION. WAS THERE GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF 21 FOLLOW UP TO WORKING WITH THAT? 22 AND I GUESS THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY FURTHER 23 DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BOARD'S SELF-EVALUATION. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY, WHICH 25 FRUSTRATES ME. MARCH 24, 2011 56 1 I THINK THAT YOU HAVE ON PAGE 157 THERE'S SOME 2 MISTAKES. THERE'S SOME FACTUAL MISTAKES. 3 MS. SAGINOR: ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN DO, I'M 4 HAPPY TO DO THIS WITH YOU. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH. 6 MS. SAGINOR: BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEND PHOTO COPIES 7 OF YOUR PAGES. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DO HAVE THAT. 9 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: HOW DOES THE BOARD -- DOES THE 11 BOARD HAVE STANDING ON SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES? 12 MS. SAGINOR: DOES THE BOARD LIKE HAVE 13 MEMBERS -- 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 15 MS. SAGINOR: -- ON SHARED GOVERNANCE 16 COMMITTEES? 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 18 MS. SAGINOR: NO, SIR. THE STRUCTURE THE SHARED 19 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES IS THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE SHARED 20 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEES ARE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE 21 IS. RIGHT? 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 23 MS. SAGINOR: AND THAT'S ALL LAID OUT IN POLICY 24 DOCUMENTS -- 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. MARCH 24, 2011 57 1 MS. SAGINOR: -- THAT ARE ONLINE. SOME 2 COMMITTEES ARE JUST FACULTY. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 4 MS. SAGINOR: SOME ARE FACULTY ADMINISTRATORS. 5 SOME ARE TRIPARTITE. SOME ARE QUADRIPARTITE. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 7 MS. SAGINOR: BUT THERE ARE VERY, VERY FEW 8 COMMITTEES WHERE BOTH BOARD MEMBERS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF 9 THE COLLEGE ARE ON THE COMMITTEES TOGETHER. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 11 MS. SAGINOR: ONE WAS THE CHANCELLOR'S 12 EVALUATION. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT COMMITTEE IS 13 CALLED, BUT I MET WITH BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 15 MS. SAGINOR: AND ALSO THE CLASSIFIED SENATE 16 PRESIDENT. BUT ON THAT ONE -- AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE 17 WHICH IS NOT A SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. IT IS A 18 PARTICIPATORY GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONE OF 19 THE ONES THAT'S LAID OUT IN SHARED GOVERNANCE -- 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 21 MS. SAGINOR: -- IS ONE WHERE THERE ARE BOARD 22 MEMBERS AS WELL. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. I JUST THINK THAT "ALL 24 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COLLEGE COMMUNITY IS STRONGER THAN" -- 25 MS. SAGINOR: I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU MARCH 24, 2011 58 1 ARE. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: "ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COLLEGE 3 COMMUNITY" -- 4 VCAA MURILLO: WHICH PARAGRAPH IS THAT? 5 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S THE PENULTIMATE PARAGRAPH ON 6 PAGE 157. IT'S THE THIRD LINE FROM THE BOTTOM. 7 MS. SAGINOR: OH, 157. I'M SORRY. OH, SO YOU 8 ARE SAYING THAT -- THE TERM "CONSTITUENT ORGANIZATION" 9 SHOULD INCLUDE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 11 MS. SAGINOR: THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS ONE OF 12 THE CONSTITUENCIES OF THE COLLEGE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: I THINK IT IS, BUT -- 14 MS. SAGINOR: THIS WOULD ACTUALLY ONLY BE FOUR 15 OF THE FIVE CONSTITUENCIES OF THE COLLEGES -- 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 17 MS. SAGINOR: -- AND NOT ALL CONSTITUENTS OF THE 18 COLLEGE. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: ON PAGE 158 -- I AM GOING TO 20 STOP HERE SINCE I SEE YOU WRITING. 21 MS. SAGINOR: YES. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE CAC OVERSEES THE 23 DEVELOPMENTAL BOARD POLICIES. DOES IT REALLY DO THAT? I 24 DON'T KNOW. 25 MS. SAGINOR: I WOULD SAY NOT. I MEAN, YES, I MARCH 24, 2011 59 1 THINK THIS IS NOT WELL-PHRASED AT ALL. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 3 MS. SAGINOR: THE CAC DRAFTS THINGS THAT THEN 4 ARE SENT TO THE CHANCELLOR AND COME FROM THE CHANCELLOR TO 5 THE BOARD DEFINITELY -- 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 7 MS. SAGINOR: -- WRONG. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE ANNUAL SHARED GOVERNANCE 9 REPORT, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS? 10 MS. SAGINOR: THE ANNUAL SHARED GOVERNANCE 11 REPORT INCLUDES A LISTING OF ALL THE COMMITTEES WHO'S ON 12 THEM AND SO FORTH. IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE HAVE AS SHARED 13 GOVERNANCE HANDBOOK THAT COMES OUT ANNUALLY. YEAH, I 14 THINK THAT SHOULD SAY, "ANNUAL SHARED GOVERNANCE 15 HANDBOOK." 16 MR. GABOR: THERE'S ALSO AN ANNUAL SHARED 17 GOVERNANCE STATE BOARD WHERE WE BASICALLY PUT TOGETHER 18 EVERY SINGLE POLICY THAT WENT THROUGH SHARED GOVERNANCE 19 COMMITTEES. AND WE PUBLISHED THAT HERE, SO YOU ARE GOING 20 TO HEAR CURRICULUM COMMITTEE PASSED SO MANY COURSES, 21 DELETED SO MANY COURSES. ITPC PASSED THIS POLICY. IT 22 WENT TO THE COLLEGE ADVISORY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. COULD YOU STATE 24 YOUR NAME? 25 MR. GABOR: I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS ATTILA GABOR. MARCH 24, 2011 60 1 I AM THE SHARED GOVERNANCE COORDINATOR. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 MR. GABOR: THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE MANY REPORTS 4 THAT WE CREATE. 5 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 6 MR. GABOR: SORRY FOR JUMPING IN. 7 MS. SAGINOR: NO, THANK YOU. DON'T GO TOO FAR. 8 I MAY NEED YOU AGAIN. 9 AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT'S PUT 10 TOGETHER. THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE IN THIS DOCUMENT 11 THEN IS KNOWN BY ANY ONE PERSON. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT KNOWN 12 BY ME, SO IT IS VERY MUCH A GROUP EFFORT. AND EVEN WITH 13 THAT, EVEN WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE IT, THERE'S LOTS OF 14 THINGS THAT ARE STILL MISSING ERRONEOUS AND SO FORTH. 15 MR. GABOR: ATTILA GABOR, AGAIN. 16 I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT THOSE ARE VERY GOOD 17 OBSERVATIONS. AS A MATTER OF FACT SINCE THAT REPORT, 18 ABOUT I WOULD SAY 70 PERCENT WHAT WAS MENTIONED WAS 19 ACTUALLY ALREADY CHANGED. 20 SO IF YOU WOULD READ THE ONE -- THE LATEST 21 VERSION WHICH WAS WORKED ON -- MADELINE MUELLER WROTE WITH 22 ME ON FRIDAY THEN LISA ROMANO (INAUDIBLE) MONDAY ON SOME 23 OTHER VERSION. SO THERE ARE ALL THESE CHANGES GOING ON, 24 SO IT'S ALMOST SOMETIMES EVERY OTHER DAY CHANGES ARE MADE. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WILL WAIT FOR THAT TO COME MARCH 24, 2011 61 1 OUT. 2 MR. GABOR: I AM SAYING THAT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 3 RIGHT. MANY OF THOSE WERE ALREADY CHANGED. AND AS A 4 MATTER OF FACT MORE, WHICH THANK GOD, YOU DIDN'T CATCH. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WILL LET YOU SITDOWN. IT'S 6 OKAY. THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE MARKS. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS, HAS OBVIOUSLY PUT IN A LOT OF WORK ON THIS. 9 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORK GETS COMMUNICATED INTO 10 THE NEXT DRAFT. 11 MS. SAGINOR: WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE -- AS I 12 SAID, ONE WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE TO SEND US A PHOTOCOPY OF 13 IF YOU'VE MADE WRITTEN NOTES OR I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET 14 WITH YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THINGS. THAT WOULD 15 WORK ALSO. I PROBABLY -- YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER SECTION IT 16 IS YOU ARE WORKING ON, THE PERSON WHO IS CHARGE OF THAT 17 SECTION COULD MEET WITH YOU. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO 18 THAT. 19 AND THAT WOULD ALSO WORK FOR YOU, TRUSTEE NGO, 20 IF YOU WISH TO DO IT THAT WAY. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN IF YOU HAVE THE LATEST 22 VERSION OF EACH, UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO JUST WORK OFF OF 23 THE INITIAL ONE. IF IT'S CHANGING EVERYDAY, I DON'T KNOW 24 HOW USEFUL IT IS FOR ME TO -- 25 MS. SAGINOR: WE CAN ONLY PUBLISH IT. WE ARE MARCH 24, 2011 62 1 NOT PUTTING UP DRAFTS THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE WORKING ON. 2 THIS WAS OUR STANDARD DRAFT. EVERYBODY WORK OFF OF THIS 3 DRAFT UNTIL THE END OF THE DAY. YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE 4 WILL PUT UP A NEXT DRAFT. SO IT'S ACTUALLY NEWS TO ME 5 THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE DRAFT OUT THERE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I MEAN SO -- 7 MS. SAGINOR: I THOUGHT THAT THIS IS THE DRAFT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL TALK TO THE CHANCELLOR 9 ABOUT HOW I CAN BEST PROVIDE MY INPUT. 10 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: HOW'S THAT? 12 MS. SAGINOR: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, SO I REALLY 15 APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT FROM THE BOARD. I AM VERY PROUD 16 THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF INPUT. I WILL BE HAPPY TO SCHEDULE 17 MORE MEETINGS FOR THE STANDARD IV BECAUSE I AM THE COCHAIR 18 FOR STANDARD IV. SO I WILL BE -- WE CAN COMMUNICATE 19 INFORMATION MUCH MORE EFFICIENTLY THAT WAY. SO I WOULD BE 20 HAPPY TO WORK WITH EVERYONE AND ANYONE. WE ARE LOOKING 21 FOR MORE INPUT. THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WOULD JUST COMMENT THAT 23 THERE ARE ALSO ISSUES WITH STANDARD III THAT WE ALSO NEED 24 TO VISIT. I THINK THE BOARD HAS, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF 25 YEARS, HAS DONE QUITE A BIT OF GOOD WORK IN TERMS OF MARCH 24, 2011 63 1 AUDITS AND REALLY CLEANING UP THE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, THE 2 INTERNAL BOOKKEEPING. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE NOTED 3 BECAUSE THAT IS SOME VERY GOOD WORK THAT INSTITUTION 4 DESERVES -- 5 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- GOOD CREDIT FOR. 7 MS. SAGINOR: YOU MENTIONED THAT WHEN WE 8 FIRST -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 10 MS. SAGINOR: -- GOT THE DRAFT TO YOU. AS I 11 SAID, WE WANT THE INPUT. WE REALLY DO. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THANK YOU. 13 ANY OTHER COMMENT FROM THE BOARD? 14 COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? 15 OKAY, THANK YOU. 16 WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE ITEM IX, REPORT FROM THE 17 CONSTITUENT GROUPS. 18 FIRST WE HAVE THE ACADEMIC SENATE. 19 MS. SAGINOR, YOU ARE NOT OFF THE HOOK YET. 20 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 21 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA 22 TONIGHT THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING TO WHEN THEY COME 23 UP. THE FACULTY DIVERSITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM GROW YOUR 24 OWN RESOLUTION. I AM VERY GLAD TO SEE THAT'S ON THE 25 AGENDA. I WILL BE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THAT. MARCH 24, 2011 64 1 I WILL CERTAINLY BE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF -- 2 THERE'S A -- ONE OF THE POSITION ANNOUNCEMENTS IS FOR A 3 NEW VICE CHANCELLOR. 4 I WILL BE CERTAINLY ATTENDING THE BOARD 5 COMMITTEE MEETING AT WHICH CONTENT FILTERING HAS BEEN 6 REFERRED. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO A 7 LARGE NUMBER OF FOLKS AT THE COLLEGE. IT HAS BEEN SORT OF 8 A LITTLE BIT OF A STRUGGLE. IT'S GONE THROUGH A LOT OF 9 LAYERS OF SHARED GOVERNANCE TO COME TO YOU, AND WE ARE 10 GOING TO BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JUST FOR MY 12 INFORMATION, I MEAN JOHN KNOWS I'M NOT VERY GOOD WITH 13 COMPUTERS AND STUFF. WHAT IS -- CAN YOU EXPLAIN IN TWO 14 SECONDS -- 15 MS. SAGINOR: SURE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- WHAT IS CONTENT 17 FILTERING, PLEASE. 18 MS. SAGINOR: CONTENT FILTERING IS WHERE YOU 19 DISALLOW PEOPLE TO GET TO WEBSITES WITHOUT ACTUALLY GIVING 20 THEM A LIST OF WHICH WEBSITES THEY CAN'T GET TO. IT'S 21 JUST LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S A LIST OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T 22 ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT'S ON THE LIST THAT HAS -- AND 23 ACTUALLY, I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 24 AT ONE POINT CONTENT FILTERING WAS PUT INTO 25 PLACE LAST FALL. THINGS HAVE CHANGED BACK AND FORTH AT MARCH 24, 2011 65 1 THE COLLEGE, BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL MONTHS IN WHICH 2 WEBSITES THAT THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE BASICALLY IDENTIFIED AS 3 ADULT WEBSITES WERE ALL BLOCKED AND WE COULDN'T GET TO 4 THEM. 5 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT 6 TIME PERIOD WAS A TRANSGENDER STUDENT WENT TO A FACULTY 7 MEMBER FOR HELP. THEY HAD DIFFICULTIES COPING AND THE 8 FACULTY MEMBER SAID, YOU SHOULD GO TO I THINK IT WAS SAN 9 FRANCISCO SEX INFORMATION WEBSITE, AND YOU WILL GET A LOT 10 OF RESOURCES FROM THERE. AND THE STUDENT COULDN'T ACCESS 11 THAT WEBSITE BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS 12 BLOCKED. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I MAKE A SLIGHT CORRECTION 14 TO THAT -- 15 MS. SAGINOR: SURE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- DEFINITION OF CONTENT 17 BLOCKING. IT'S REALLY NOT BLOCKING WEBSITES. IT'S 18 BLOCKING DOMAIN NAMES. AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT 19 DISTINCTION BECAUSE SOME DOMAIN NAMES DO NOT HAVE WEBSITES 20 ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. 21 THERE'S ALL KIND OF MALWARE AND PHISHING SCHEMES 22 THAT USE DOMAIN NAMES THAT DON'T HAVE A WEBSITE THAT ARE 23 DIRECTED TO OTHER THINGS. AND SO CONTENT BLOCKING ALSO 24 INCLUDES THOSE. SO REALLY DOMAIN NAMES IS TECHNICALLY 25 WHAT THIS BLOCKS, NOT WEBSITES. MARCH 24, 2011 66 1 MS. SAGINOR: WELL, IT WAS THE FILTERING WHICH 2 IS WHERE INSTEAD OF BEING JUST SPECIFIC WEBSITES THAT ARE 3 BLOCKED, IT'S GROUPS OF THINGS. IT'S NOT JUST SOME 4 PARTICULAR WEB DOMAIN NAME HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. 5 FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS SEVERAL YEARS BACK A 6 PARTICULAR DOMAIN THAT WAS A PROBLEM AND THAT WAS BLOCKED 7 AND WE KNEW WHAT DOMAIN IT WAS. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 9 MS. SAGINOR: THIS SOFTWARE, LIKE WITH ADULT 10 WEBSITES, ANY WEBSITE THAT MENTIONS CERTAIN WORDS -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SEE. 12 MS. SAGINOR: -- GETS THROWN INTO THIS PILE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF ORDER. I BELIEVE TRUSTEE 14 JACKSON SAID, "TWO SECONDS." 15 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. I AM VERY HAPPY TO 16 MOVE ON. 17 NOW WE HAVE CONCERNS ALSO ABOUT ACCESS TO WI-FI. 18 THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IS VERY CLUNKY AND CLUMSY. THE 19 STUDENTS HAVE TO PUT IN ALL THEIR INFORMATION AND THEN 20 WAIT TWO DAYS. AND IF THEIR REGISTRATION RECORDS ARE NOT 21 EXACTLY RIGHT, THEY CAN'T GET ACCESS. WE ARE LOOKING TO 22 RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE 23 WORKED WITH THROUGH THE COMMITTEES THERE AND WILL CONTINUE 24 TO WORK ON THAT. I AM SURE YOU WILL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT 25 THAT LATER. MARCH 24, 2011 67 1 FACULTY HAVE BEEN, OF COURSE, VERY BUSY DOING 2 THEIR REGULAR JOBS. MIDTERMS WERE LAST WEEK. THEY HAVE 3 BEEN GRADING PAPERS. YOU WILL BE, I HOPE, PLEASED TO KNOW 4 THAT OBJECTIVES AND PRIORITIES SECTION OF THE STRATEGIC 5 PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE ACADEMIC SENATE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL 6 YESTERDAY. 7 SO THE ACADEMIC SENATE'S APPROVED A VERSION, A 8 DRAFT OF THE STRATEGIC PLANS, OBJECTIVES, AND PRIORITIES. 9 THAT WILL BE GOING TO COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL. IT WILL 10 BE GOING TO THE COLLEGE PLANNING AND BUDGETING COUNCIL. 11 IT WILL BE COMING TO YOU. 12 I THINK IT WILL PUT THE FULL PLAN TOGETHER 13 BEFORE IT COMES TO YOU. YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN A DRAFT OF 14 THAT. AND AT ANY POINT YOU ARE WELCOME TO AGENDIZE IT AND 15 DISCUSS THE DRAFT IN THE FORM IT IS RIGHT NOW. 16 THE FORM IT'S IN RIGHT NOW IS UP ON THE WEBSITE. 17 IT'S CALLED, "VERSION 2,6." IT WENT FROM "VERSION 2." 18 THEY DIDN'T QUITE THINK IT WAS CHANGED ENOUGH TO MAKE IT 19 "VERSION 3," SO RIGHT NOW IT'S CALLED, "VERSION 2.6." 20 IT'S UP ON THE WEB. 21 PROGRAM REVIEW IS SOMETHING THAT FACULTY HAVE 22 BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON, ALONG WITH DEPARTMENT CHAIRS, 23 ALONG WITH ADMINISTRATORS. THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING GREAT 24 PROGRESS IN THAT. FACULTY, ALONG WITH CLASSIFIED STAFF 25 AND ADMINISTRATORS, ARE SERVING ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE MARCH 24, 2011 68 1 SEARCH COMMITTEES. 2 THIS IS SEARCH COMMITTEES TO REPLACE THE INTERIM 3 ADMINISTRATORS WITH PERMANENT ADMINISTRATORS. THOSE 4 COMMITTEES HAVE BEGUN TO MEET. I AM VERY HAPPY TO SEE 5 THAT PROGRESS GOING FORWARD. 6 WE ARE DOING ALL KINDS OF EVALUATION WORK. THE 7 EVALUATION OF THE CHANCELLOR. THAT FORM HAS BEEN 8 DELIVERED TO ALL THE FACULTY. AND WE'VE STARTED GETTING 9 THOSE BACK AT THE SENATE OFFICE. THE CLASSIFIED STAFF 10 WILL ALSO BE SUBMITTING CHANCELLOR EVALUATIONS. IT'S 11 BASICALLY A SURVEY. WE DON'T DO THE EVALUATION. WE JUST 12 GIVE YOU INPUT. YOU DO THE EVALUATION. 13 THE EVALUATION OF ADMINISTRATORS IN BOTH THE 14 LONG FORM THAT GOES TO SELECTED PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED 15 WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR. AND ALSO SHORT FORMS I HAVE, I 16 DON'T KNOW HOW MANY I NEED TO WORK ON. THAT'S GONE OUT, 17 SO THAT YOU WILL GET -- I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST THERE'S 18 BEEN NOT ENOUGH INPUT IN SOME -- I'VE HEARD IT SAID BY 19 SOME BOARD MEMBERS THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH INPUT INTO THE 20 EVALUATION OF SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATORS. 21 AGAIN, I CAN'T PUT IT UNDER PEOPLE'S NOSES AND 22 SAY, YOU MUST FILL THIS OUT, BUT I HAVE BEEN PUSHING IT 23 CONSTANTLY. PLEASE FILL OUT THE FORM, SO I AM HOPING TO 24 GET BACK MANY OF THOSE. 25 AND, OF COURSE, WE ALSO ARE IN THE PROCESS IN MARCH 24, 2011 69 1 MANY DEPARTMENTS DOING EVALUATION WORK ON THE DEPARTMENT 2 CHAIRS. THAT'S ONGOING. AND IF IT HASN'T STARTED FOR 3 SOME DEPARTMENTS, WE WILL START THEM IN ALMOST EVERY 4 DEPARTMENT DEPENDING ON IF IT'S CHAIR IS IN HIS LAST YEAR 5 HIS OR HER LAST YEAR, THEN WE DON'T DO IT, BUT OTHERWISE. 6 AND, OF COURSE, FACULTY ARE WORKING AT 7 EVALUATING OTHER FACULTY. THAT'S PART OF OUR WORK ALSO. 8 SO THERE'S A LOT OF EVALUATION HAPPENING. 9 I ATTENDED THE INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS 10 COMMITTEE THAT WAS THIS PAST WEEK. AND EVALUATION WAS ONE 11 OF THE TOPICS THERE WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS I AM 12 BRINGING UP THAT WE ARE DOING THIS WORK. 13 I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY IF WE HAD GOTTEN MORE 14 DONE AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING. I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT 15 WE DIDN'T HAVE QUORUM FOR THAT MEETING. AND I UNDERSTAND 16 THAT WE WILL BE MEETING AGAIN ON APRIL 12TH, AND WE WILL 17 BE ABLE TO DO MORE WORK ON THESE TOPICS THERE. 18 I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THE -- 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 20 MS. SAGINOR: SURE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT, 22 SO WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE AN EFFECTIVE APRIL 12TH MEETING. 23 ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AN ACTION ITEM AROUND EVALUATIONS 24 OR -- 25 MS. SAGINOR: I AM REALLY LOOKING FOR FINDING MARCH 24, 2011 70 1 OUT WHAT IT IS THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE SO THAT WE CAN 2 WORK TOGETHER ON GETTING SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY 3 WITH BASICALLY. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. THANKS. 5 MS. SAGINOR: I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THE BOARD'S 6 PLANNING AND BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THOSE ARE BEING 7 VERY INSTRUCTIVE. FACULTY, AS A WHOLE, ACTUALLY MANY 8 FACULTY HAVE COME TO THOSE MEETINGS AND WILL COME. IT'S 9 VERY HELPFUL IF THE AGENDAS ARE PUBLISHED ENOUGH IN 10 ADVANCE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHICH MEETINGS ARE THE ONES 11 THAT THEY NEED TO BE THERE FOR AND CONTRIBUTE TO. I 12 APPRECIATE YOUR PUTTING THAT OUT. 13 AND FACULTY IN GENERAL I THINK I HAVE BEEN 14 HEARING FROM OUR ADMINISTRATORS THAT WE ARE COOPERATING 15 WITH REDUCING COSTS. THAT FACULTY ARE BEING VERY CAREFUL 16 ABOUT, WELL, DO I REALLY NEED ANOTHER BOX OF PENCILS, 17 MAYBE I CAN MAKE DO WITH WHAT I HAVE. WE ARE TRYING TO 18 HOLD COSTS DOWN THAT WAY. 19 FACULTY ARE RESPONDING TO THE CALL FOR PUTTING 20 TOGETHER SHORT COURSES ON VERY SHORT NOTICE. SOME PEOPLE 21 ARE LIKE, OKAY, FINE, I WILL TEACH ANOTHER COURSE. I KNOW 22 ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT CHAIRS IS LIKE I REACHED THAT 23 FACULTY MEMBER JUST BEFORE SHE PURCHASED THAT PLANE 24 TICKET. AND SHE AGREED THAT INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT TRIP, 25 SHE WAS GOING TO STAY HERE AND TEACH ANOTHER COURSE SO MARCH 24, 2011 71 1 THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE THE STUDENT'S ENROLLMENT. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: WHO WAS THAT? 3 MS. SAGINOR: WHO WAS THAT? 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 5 MS. SAGINOR: I AM VERY BAD AT REMEMBERING 6 NAMES, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU. I'M SORRY. THESE THINGS ARE 7 SAID TO ME AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SAID WHAT TO ME. 8 WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A VERY FULL SUMMER 9 SCHOOL PROGRAM. AND INSTRUCTORS ARE GETTING READY FOR 10 THAT. IN SOME CASES WE WILL START SUMMER SCHOOL A LITTLE 11 EARLY. THERE WON'T BE FOR -- SOME OF THE CREDIT TEACHERS 12 USED TO HAVING A LITTLE BREAK BETWEEN SPRING AND SUMMER 13 AND SOME OF US WON'T BE GETTING THAT LITTLE BREAK BECAUSE 14 THEY WILL BE MOVING RIGHT INTO SUMMER. 15 FACULTY AND DEPARTMENT CHAIRS IN PARTICULAR HAVE 16 BEEN WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER THE FALL COURSE 17 OFFERINGS. THIS IS A LITTLE HARD TO DO BECAUSE IT IS SORT 18 OF UNCERTAIN. IT'S LIKE, WELL, IS THE MONEY GOING TO BE 19 THERE, BUT WE ARE GETTING AS GOOD AS -- THE ADMINISTRATION 20 HAS BEEN SUPPLYING US WITH THE BEST INFORMATION THAT THEY 21 CAN ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT FOR FALL, AND WE HAVE BEEN 22 PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER. 23 KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE SOONER WE GET THE FALL 24 COURSE OFFERINGS TOGETHER, THE TEACHERS IDENTIFIED AND SO 25 FORTH, THE SOONER THE TEACHERS CAN PUT IN THEIR TEXTBOOK MARCH 24, 2011 72 1 ORDERS TO THE BOOKSTORE AND THE CHEAPER THE TEXTBOOKS WILL 2 BE FOR THE STUDENTS TO PURCHASE THEM. 3 MANY FACULTY PARTICIPATED IN THE MARCH IN MARCH. 4 I WAS ONE OF THOSE WHO WENT AND I WAS JUST -- I CAN'T TELL 5 YOU HOW THRILLED I WAS THAT A PHOTO I TOOK WITH MY CAMERA 6 PHONE ENDED UP IN THE CITY CURRENTS ISSUE SHOWING 7 EVERYBODY STANDING IN THE RAIN. MY OWN PERSONAL LITTLE 8 THING. 9 WE ARE GETTING READY FOR ACADEMIC SENATE 10 EXECUTIVE COUNCIL ELECTIONS. RIGHT NOW IS THE POINT AT 11 WHICH FACULTY WHO WISH TO SERVE ON THE ACADEMIC SENATE 12 EXECUTIVE COUNCIL ARE PUTTING IN THEIR NOMINATION FORMS SO 13 THAT DEADLINE WILL PASS SOON AND THEN THE CHART WILL GO 14 OUT OF WHO IS RUNNING, AND WE WILL BE VOTING FOR NEXT 15 YEAR'S EXECUTIVE COUNCIL. 16 AND TOMORROW I AM GOING TO -- ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY 17 ELSE IS GETTING A HOLIDAY FOR CESAR CHAVEZ, I AM GOING OFF 18 TO THE AREA B MEETING FOR THE STATE ACADEMIC SENATE THAT 19 BASICALLY IS OF ALL THE COLLEGES. AND AREA B MEANING 20 BASICALLY THE GREATER BAY AREA. I GUESS THERE'S ABOUT I 21 DON'T KNOW 30 OR 40 COLLEGES THAT ARE IN OUR AREA, SO I 22 WILL BE GOING OFF TO THAT MEETING AND GETTING A PREVIEW OF 23 WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING TO THE PLENARY. AND THAT JUST 24 ABOUT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 25 EXCEPT FOR NOW I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD SOME TIME MARCH 24, 2011 73 1 TO GUS GOLDSTEIN. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: KAREN, YOU REMINDED ME I WAS 3 GOING TO -- 4 MS. SAGINOR: OH, THANK YOU. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: I HAVE ALL THESE PENCILS AT HOME 6 I WAS GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU. YOU JUST REMINDED ME. 7 MS. SAGINOR: WE NEED THEM AT THE LIBRARY. 8 STUDENTS COME UP TO THE DESK AND SAY, DO YOU HAVE A 9 PENCIL? AND WE BASICALLY BRING IN PENCILS OURSELVES AND 10 PEOPLE ARE BRINGING IN GOLF PENCILS AND STUFF SO WE CAN 11 GIVE THEM TO THE STUDENTS. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 13 MS. SAGINOR: SO, YES. THANK YOU. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: I CLEANED OUT MY DESK. 15 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THESE WILL 16 BE WELL USED. THANK YOU. 17 MS. GOLDSTEIN: GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GUS 18 GOLDSTEIN. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF AFT 2121. ALISA 19 MESSER, OUR PRESIDENT, WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT SHE 20 COULDN'T, SO I AM STEPPING IN FOR HER. 21 WHAT I HAVE TO SAY THIS EVENING MAY BE A MATTER 22 OF PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. I AM NOT QUITE SURE, BUT I DO 23 WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE STATE OF LABOR OR 24 UNIONIZED LABOR IN THIS COUNTRY. AND THAT IS THE MAJOR 25 CONCERN FOR AFT 2121 AT THIS TIME BESIDES NEGOTIATIONS OF MARCH 24, 2011 74 1 COURSE. 2 THERE ARE INCREASING ATTACKS ON TEACHERS AND 3 OTHER PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS, ESPECIALLY UNIONIZED PUBLIC 4 SECTOR WORKERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR 5 WITH WISCONSIN AND SCOTT WALKER THE GOVERNOR'S DESIGN 6 BASICALLY TO BREAK THE BACK OF THE UNIONS THERE IN ORDER 7 TO MAKE IT MORE UNLIKELY THAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO 8 DEMOCRATS IN THEIR CAMPAIGNS BECAUSE NO ONE IS GOING TO 9 WANT TO PAY DUES TO A UNION THAT CAN'T COLLECTIVELY 10 BARGAIN FOR THEM. SO THE UNIONS WILL HAVE NO DUES AND 11 THEN THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE MUCH LESS FUNDING. SO IT'S 12 PRETTY INSIDIOUS. 13 THE GOVERNOR OF MAINE HAS JUST APPARENTLY 14 ORDERED THE REMOVAL OF A MURAL DEPICTING THE HISTORY OF 15 LABOR IN HIS CAPITAL OR SOMEWHERE IN THAT -- I MEAN IT'S 16 JUST APPALLING AND STUNNING. 17 FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT 18 THE NATIONAL BUDGET CRISIS WAS NOT CAUSED BY LABOR UNIONS 19 OR THEIR PENSIONS OR THEIR BENEFITS. IT'S THE RESULT OF 20 THE GREED, MALFEASANCE AND GENERAL MISBEHAVIOR OF WALL 21 STREET AND THE BANKS AND NOT TO MENTION THE TRILLIONS OF 22 DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING FUNNELED AWAY TO FIGHT WARS 23 OVERSEAS. 24 SO WE HAVE AT THIS POINT A RECESSION. I DON'T 25 CARE WHETHER IT IS OFFICIALLY A RECESSION ANYMORE OR NOT. MARCH 24, 2011 75 1 IT IS CLEARLY A RECESSION WITH UNEMPLOYMENT THAT'S 2 RESULTING IN A LACK OF INCOME. AND LACK OF INCOME MEANS 3 LACK OF INCOME TAX, SO THE REVENUE STREAM IS BROKEN. THE 4 INCOME TAXES ARE LOWER. THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE GONE 5 DOWN BECAUSE OF SO MANY MORTGAGES BEING FORECLOSED. SALES 6 TAXES DROPPED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF INCOME AND DISPOSABLE 7 INCOME OF THE MIDDLE CLASS. AND THE MIDDLE CLASS IS BEING 8 BROKEN. AND THE MIDDLE CLASS WAS BUILT BY LABOR UNIONS. 9 THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM, AND IT'S BEING DESTROYED. 10 I WOULD SAY CORPORATIONS AND THE VERY RICH ARE 11 NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE. THAT COULD ALSO CONTRIBUTE 12 TO A REVENUE STREAM THAT IS SORELY LACKING IN WHY WE HAVE 13 A HOLE IN OUR BUDGET. 14 PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES ARE BASICALLY BEING 15 SCAPEGOATED. AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO 16 UNDERSTAND THIS. 17 ONE WAY TO SUMMARIZE THE ISSUE, I DON'T KNOW IF 18 PETER GOLDSTEIN HAS ALREADY TOLD YOU THE COOKIE JOKE. 19 ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE COOKIE STORY? 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 21 MS. GOLDSTEIN: MAYBE I COULD REPEAT IT FOR 22 THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE COOKIE STORY. 23 THE COOKIE STORY GOES LIKE THIS. THERE ARE 24 THREE PEOPLE SEATED AROUND A TABLE. ONE OF THEM IS A 25 BILLIONAIRE, PERHAPS A CORPORATE CEO OR WALL STREET CEO OF MARCH 24, 2011 76 1 SOME SORT. ONE IS A TEA PARTIER. AND ONE IS UNIONIST. 2 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TABLE THERE IS A PLATE WITH 3 12 COOKIES. THE BILLIONAIRE REACHES OVER AND HELPS 4 HIMSELF TO 11 OF THE 12 COOKIES. HE TURNS TO THE TEA 5 PARTIER AND SAYS, WATCH OUT FOR THAT UNION GUY. HE WANTS 6 A BITE OF YOUR COOKIE. AND THAT JUST ABOUT SUMMARIZES THE 7 SITUATION AS IT IS OCCURRING IN THIS COUNTRY. 8 TO TRY TO PUBLICIZED THIS TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE 9 OBVIOUS TO MORE PEOPLE, THE LABOR COUNCIL IS PARTICIPATING 10 IN A NATIONWIDE DAY OF PROTEST, A DAY OF ACTION ON 11 APRIL 4TH. WE ARE INVITING YOU TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU CAN. 12 DIFFERENT UNIONS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY OF 13 PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS, CARPENTERS, HOTEL 14 WORKERS, TEACHERS, YOU NAME IT ARE GOING TO BE COMING 15 TOGETHER OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL HOURS ACTUALLY. WE 16 ARE GOING TO START AT 3:00 O'CLOCK AT UNION SQUARE. WE 17 ARE STARTING THAT EARLY IN ORDER TO ALLOW A LOT OF THE 18 CUSTODIAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO GO TO WORK LATER IN THE 19 EVENING TO PARTICIPATE. 20 WE ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FROM -- THROUGH THE 21 FINANCIAL DISTRICT FROM THERE, PROBABLY -- I DON'T KNOW 22 WHERE ALL THE STOPS ARE GOING TO BE, BUT I KNOW WE ARE 23 INTENDING TO BE IN FRONT OF BANK OF AMERICA AT 4:45. SO 24 IF YOU CAN'T JOIN US AT 3:00 O'CLOCK, PERHAPS AT 4:45 YOU 25 CAN JOIN US THERE. AND IF YOU STILL CAN'T JOIN US BEFORE MARCH 24, 2011 77 1 THAT TIME, WE ARE GOING TO END AT THE JUSTIN HERMAN PLAZA 2 AT 6:00 O'CLOCK FOR A RALLY. SO AT ANY OF THOSE JUNCTURES 3 YOU MIGHT WANT TO JOIN US AND TRY TO -- AND LET'S SEND THE 4 MESSAGE OUT TO THE PUBLIC. 5 AS ALISA SAID TO ME -- ALISA MESSER SAID TO ME 6 AT THE END OF THAT COOKIE JOKE -- SHE SAID, THE KICKER IS 7 THAT THE PRESS AFTERWARDS COMES UP TO THE TEA PARTIER AND 8 SAYS, YEAH, WHAT ABOUT THAT UNION GUY WHO WANTS YOUR 9 COOKIE? IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED TO LET THE PRESS KNOW 10 MORE ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT 11 MAKING IT CLEAR ENOUGH YET. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 ATTILA GABOR WILL BE SPEAKING FOR THE CLASSIFIED 14 SENATE. 15 MR. GABOR: MY NAME IS ATTILA GABOR. AND I WAS 16 REMINDED TO SAY MY NAME SLOWER BECAUSE WE ARE CLOSED 17 CAPTIONING. AND IT'S SPELLED A-T-T-I-L-A, SO DOUBLE T ONE 18 L. THAT'S A COMMON MISTAKE. 19 SO LISTENING TO WHAT GUS WAS SAYING, I HAVE A 20 GOOD NEWS IN THE ECONOMY BECAUSE I WAS JUST READING THE 21 OTHER DAY THAT ACTUALLY THE NUMBER OF MILLIONAIRES WENT UP 22 BY 8 PERCENT. AND LISTENING TO THE CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOW 23 HOST, THOSE MILLIONAIRES ARE OBVIOUSLY ARE CUSTODIANS AND 24 PART-TIME TEACHERS, SO NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. 25 SO WE HAD OUR CLASSIFIED SENATE MEETING MARCH 24, 2011 78 1 YESTERDAY. BUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT POINT, I DO WANT TO 2 TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL THE CLASSIFIED WHO TOOK 3 A DAY OFF, WHO TAKE VACATION TIME, ET CETERA, TO ATTEND 4 THE MARCH IN MARCH. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. 5 AND I WANT TO THANK, OF COURSE, OUR STUDENT 6 TRUSTEE JEFF FANG WHO WAS VERY ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING. 7 ELIZABETH, WHO SPENT PROBABLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES 8 TRYING TO PERSUADE ANGELA. WE SHOULD GIVE HER MONEY THAT 9 SEIU UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T HAVE BUT, THERE WAS JUST AN 10 EXAMPLE HOW REALLY STUDENTS WERE PUSHING FOR THE 11 IMPOSSIBLE AT THIS TIME, AND THEY WERE REALLY ABLE TO PUT 12 TOGETHER A REALLY GOOD MARCH. 13 AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK IN THE GOVERNMENT 14 RELATION OFFICE BOTH LESLIE AND HER COLLEAGUE, HER 15 CO-WORKER, JUDY SETO, WHO I SAW VERY HARD WORKING ON THIS 16 EVENT WITH THE STUDENTS ALONGSIDE WITH LESLIE. 17 THE TOPIC FOR OUR MEETING YESTERDAY WAS -- WE 18 HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING -- WAS THE ADMINISTRATOR'S 19 EVALUATION. THAT'S A NEW THING. I VERY BRIEFLY MENTIONED 20 IT LAST MONTH. THE DISTRICT BASICALLY ALLOWED US -- AND 21 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME -- SOMETHING CALLED A SHORT FORM 22 WHERE WE ARE MIRRORING THE FACULTIES SHORT FORM WHERE ANY 23 CLASSIFIED CAN EVALUATE ADMINISTRATORS. 24 IN THE PAST IT WAS LIMITED TO A HAND PICK FEW. 25 NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH WIDER SPREAD, A BETTER MARCH 24, 2011 79 1 UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE, HOW SOME OF 2 THE MANAGEMENT IS VIEWED BY CLASSIFIED BECAUSE THAT'S AN 3 ADDITIONAL PLUS. 4 AND, OF COURSE, WE STARTED ON THE CHANCELLOR'S 5 EVALUATION PROCESS. 6 WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ACCREDITATION BECAUSE 7 THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS. I MEAN I REALLY APPRECIATE 8 ALL THIS FEEDBACK BECAUSE I KNOW MILTON WAS MENTIONING -- 9 TRUSTEE MARKS WAS MENTIONING TO ME THE OTHER DAY THAT HE 10 HAS ALL THESE NOTES. AND I SAID, PLEASE BRING US ALL THE 11 NOTES. THE MORE FEEDBACK THE BETTER. 12 WE GOT -- IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAD 13 ALREADY LOTS OF FEEDBACK FROM FACULTY, CLASSIFIED, 14 STUDENTS, ADMINISTRATORS, BUT WE ONLY CAN PUT IN THERE THE 15 FEEDBACK THAT WE GET. SO THE MORE, THE BETTER, THE 16 GENTLER THE LANGUAGE, THE BETTER. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH 17 THAT ONE AS LONG AS IT'S FACTUAL. 18 AND THEN THE NEXT TOPIC THAT WE HAD WAS THE 19 STRATEGIC PLANNING. THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AS KAREN SAGINOR 20 ALREADY MENTIONED, IS BASICALLY GOING TO GO TO THE COLLEGE 21 PBC AND THEN TO THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND, 22 HOPEFULLY, VERY SHORTLY TO THIS BOARD. WE WANT TO MAKE 23 SURE THAT IT DOES NOT GET STUCK IN THE SHARED GOVERNANCE 24 SIDE, SO THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WORKED ON IT AND NOW IT'S 25 REALLY TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT IT. MARCH 24, 2011 80 1 WE ALSO DID TALK ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE 2 REORGANIZATION. THAT'S CLASSIFIED SENATE AND THE SEIU. 3 AND, OF COURSE, OUR ELECTION IS COMING. I AM TERMED OUT. 4 SO THIS IS MY FOURTH YEAR, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW 5 PRESIDENT OF THE NEW OFFICERS ALTOGETHER. HOW MANY WE 6 DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE WE ARE CHANGING OUR SENATE BY-LAWS. 7 DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS SUCH A SHORTAGE OF 8 CLASSIFIED, WE VERY SELDOM CAN GET A QUORUM. SO WE ARE 9 ACTUALLY GOING TO AT LEAST FOR A WHILE MAYBE WE GO BACK IN 10 A FEW YEARS, BUT RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE 11 LOOKING AT IS REDUCING ACTUAL OUR MEMBERSHIP BECAUSE IT'S 12 IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE AS MANY SENATORS FILLED AND AS 13 MANY OFFICERS AS WE ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY OUR BY-LAWS. 14 SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF 15 SENATORS AND ALSO THE OFFICERS BY TWO. 16 SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDING MY REPORT. ONE 17 OF THE BIG EXCITEMENT THAT WE ARE LOOKING -- THE BUDGET I 18 DON'T EVEN WANT TO TOUCH RIGHT NOW. I'M SORRY. 19 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE REALLY 20 ANXIOUSLY LOOKING AT IS THE FACT THAT CHANCELLOR ANNOUNCED 21 IN ANSWER TO THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL AT THE MAY 22 COLLEGE ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT HE IS PLANNING TO RETIRE, SO 23 WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO START THE 24 PROCESS AND WHAT WE WILL BE ON OUR END. WE ARE, OF 25 COURSE, ONE OF THE MANY GROUPS, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE ONE MARCH 24, 2011 81 1 DESIRE TRADES THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE CHANCELLOR 2 UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE 3 CIRCUMSTANCES IS DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO OR 4 IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO. 5 SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 WE NOW HAVE REPORTS FROM THREE ASSOCIATED 8 STUDENTS REPRESENTATIVES. THE FIRST ONE IS MEI MA FROM 9 THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MEI MA IS NOT GOING TO BE 11 ABLE TO MAKE IT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: AND ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE 14 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS AL YATES IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT AS WELL. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE ELIZABETH 16 WEINBERG? 17 YES, WE DO. SHE'S FROM THE OCEAN CAMPUS. 18 MS. WEINBERG: HELLO GOOD EVENING. I NEVER MISS 19 IT. I WOULDN'T MISS A MEETING. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF 20 THE BOARD. I HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL TONIGHT. MY NAME IS 21 ELISABETH WEINBERG. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE OCEAN 22 CAMPUS, ASSOCIATED STUDENT COUNCIL. AND I AM JUST GOING 23 TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN 24 UP TO. 25 IT IS VERY NICE TO SEE YOU ALL ALSO TRUSTEE MARCH 24, 2011 82 1 MARKS. 2 THE MARCH IN MARCH WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. WE HAD 3 38 BUSES FROM CITY COLLEGE. 250 STATEWIDE WHICH WAS A 4 PRETTY INCREDIBLE NUMBER, SO QUITE A BIT OF SUPPORT. A 5 LOT OF STUDENT PARTICIPATION AND PARTICIPATION FROM THE 6 ENTIRE COLLEGE. 7 BUT THE MARCH IN MARCH IS NOT OVER. WE WILL 8 CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR STUDENTS, FOR OUR HIGHER 9 EDUCATION, AND FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE. SO THAT'S AN 10 ONGOING EFFORT, AND WE WILL BE SENDING SOME 11 REPRESENTATIVES TO THE STATEWIDE SENATE APRIL 1ST-3RD SO 12 WE HAVE SOME DELEGATES FROM OUR COUNCIL WHO ARE GOING TO 13 ATTEND THAT. 14 WE ALSO WILL BE PREPARING FOR SOME EVENTS IN 15 APRIL. UNITY DAY IS COMING UP. SO THAT WILL BE A COLLEGE 16 WIDE PARTICIPATION EFFORT AND ALSO EARTH DAY CELEBRATING 17 THE EARTH. SO WE ALSO HAVE THE OCEAN AND STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 ELECTIONS WHICH ARE UPCOMING IN APRIL. AND WE ARE 19 CURRENTLY DOING A BY-LAWS REVIEW SO WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR 20 OCEAN CAMPUS BY-LAWS FOR ANY POSSIBLE PROPOSED CHANGES, 21 AMENDMENTS TO THE BY-LAWS. 22 LET'S SEE, THERE HAS BEEN A RELIEF EFFORT AFTER 23 THE TSUNAMI, EARTHQUAKE, AND THE NUCLEAR DISASTER IN 24 JAPAN. INCREDIBLE OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT FROM THE ENTIRE 25 COLLEGE COMMUNITY. THERE'S BEEN A STUDENT ORGANIZED MARCH 24, 2011 83 1 FUND-RAISING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON THE PLAZA WITH. I HEARD 2 IN THE OUR COUNCIL MEETING A STUDENT ANNOUNCED THAT I 3 BELIEVE IT WAS $5,700 APPROXIMATELY WAS RAISED RECENTLY TO 4 SUPPORT THIS RELIEF EFFORT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE 5 ONGOING WHEN WE RETURN. AND THE STUDENT HEALTH SERVICES 6 IS ALSO PROVIDING COUNSELING TO ANYONE WHO HAS NEED OF 7 COUNSELING GROUP AND INDIVIDUAL. 8 WE HAVE SHORT-TERM CLASSES GOING ON, SO WE ARE 9 SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT THAT. WE ARE TRYING TO GET AND 10 TELL AS MANY PEOPLE ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM CLASSES FOR 11 SPRING. AND WE ARE ALSO GEARING UP FOR SUMMER CLASSES. 12 SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A FULL SUMMER SESSION. 13 I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A VERY HAPPY AND 14 HEALTHY AND RESTFUL SPRING BREAK. AND WE WILL SEE YOU 15 AGAIN IN APRIL. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 MS. WEINBERG: THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MONTHLY 19 FINANCIAL REPORT. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT THERE 21 WERE OTHER STUDENT REPORTS. WE HAVE SOME ENCOURAGING NEWS 22 AND SOME DISCOURAGING NEWS FOR YOU THIS EVENING. 23 FIRST, AS ALREADY BEEN REFERENCED, THE BOARD'S 24 PLANNING AND BUDGET COMMITTEE IS NOW MEETING REGULARLY 25 GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO DEVELOPING NEXT MARCH 24, 2011 84 1 YEAR'S BUDGET. I BELIEVE THE NEXT MEETING IS THE WEEK 2 AFTER THE BREAK WEEK. SO I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT ANY OF 3 THAT INFORMATION. 4 THE ENCOURAGING NEWS IS THAT THE -- I THINK WE 5 ALL KNOW THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THE COLLEGE BRINGS IN IS 6 LARGELY DRIVEN BY OUR ENROLLMENT. AND THERE'S BEEN AN 7 ENROLLMENT MANAGEMENT STRATEGY ADVOCATED FOR BY THE 8 CHANCELLOR THIS YEAR THAT INCLUDES SEVERAL COMPONENTS. 9 AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT TO YOU TONIGHT BASED ON 10 A MEETING THAT WE ATTENDED EARLIER TODAY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT 11 IS STARTING TO PAY OFF. AND THAT'S GOOD NEWS FOR US 12 BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A GROWTH CAP OF $3.7 MILLION FOR OUR 13 COLLEGE IN THE CURRENT YEAR THAT GETS BUILT INTO OUR BASE 14 FOR NEXT YEAR. 15 BASED ON THIS MORNING'S MEETING WHERE WE 16 REVIEWED THE NUMBERS AND, OF COURSE, WE NOW HAVE 17 SHORT-TERM CLASSES YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT FOR THE SPRING, A 18 FULL SUMMER PROGRAM. WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS TO GENERATE 19 MORE FTES FROM THE ENGLISH DEPARTMENT IN A LAB SETTING. 20 WE'VE HAD STAFF MONICA LIEU, IN PARTICULAR, HAS GONE 21 SECTION BY SECTION THROUGH THE FALL AND SPRING LOOKING FOR 22 EVERY FTES THAT CAN BE RECLAIMED. 23 AND AS A RESULT OF ALL THOSE ACTIVITIES AS 24 OPPOSED TO THE $1 MILLION IN GROWTH THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED 25 IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR AND EVEN THE 2.5 MILLION THAT WAS MARCH 24, 2011 85 1 SHONE IN THE P1 REPORT, WE NOW HAVE AN EXCELLENT 2 OPPORTUNITY TO EARN MORE THAN THAT. EVERYTHING STILL HAS 3 TO COME TOGETHER IN THE RIGHT WAY BETWEEN NOW AND THE END 4 OF THE YEAR, BUT CERTAINLY WE ARE IN A BETTER POSITION AS 5 WE DEAL WITH THE STATE REDUCTIONS IF WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT 6 FULL GROWTH CAP. 7 AND BASED ON THE MOST RECENT DATA, WE HAVE A 8 MUCH BETTER CHANCE THEN WE'VE HAD AT ANY TIME BEFORE. 9 THAT'S THE ENCOURAGING NEWS. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE PROBLEM, OF COURSE, 11 WITH THAT STATEMENT, PETER, AS WE AGREED -- 12 SPEAKER UNKNOWN: (INAUDIBLE.) 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: EXACTLY. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE DIDN'T HEAR IT. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE UNFORTUNATE PART ABOUT 17 IT IS THAT WE HAVE AN EFFORT BY THE ENTIRE COLLEGE TO TRY 18 TO GET SHORT-TERM CLASSES, PEOPLE ENROLLED IN THEM. WE 19 HAVE A TREMENDOUS EFFORT PUT ON BY THE NONCREDIT DIVISIONS 20 TO INCREASE OUR NONCREDIT ENROLLMENT UP TO WHERE IT NEEDS 21 TO BE. 22 THE ONLY THING THAT THE COMMITTEE ACTUALLY DID 23 IN TERMS OF ENROLLMENT IS IDENTIFY WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN 24 CREDIT CLASSES IN THE FALL AND SPRING AND THAT'S ALL. SO 25 IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP US TO SAY THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE AT A MARCH 24, 2011 86 1 PLACE WHERE WE CAN BE ANNOUNCING SOME SUCCESS BECAUSE WE 2 DON'T HAVE THE SUCCESS YET, AND IT'S VERY MUCH 3 PROBLEMATIC. AND ALL THE TEACHERS ARE OUT THERE POSTING 4 FLIERS AND TRYING TO GET STUDENTS INTO CLASSES AND THAT IS 5 A LONG WAYS FROM WHERE WE SHOULD BE. SO IT'S PROBLEMATIC 6 TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THE GOAL HAS TO BE A FULL COURT PRESS 7 BY THE ENTIRE COLLEGE IN TERMS OF HITTING THESE ENROLLMENT 8 TARGETS. 9 AND I DON'T BE WANT THE IMPRESSION OUT THERE AT 10 ALL, BECAUSE IT IS NOT FACT, THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ACHIEVED 11 OUR ENROLLMENT GOALS. AND THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE PART OF 12 THE MESSAGE BECAUSE AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THAT'S A 13 PROBLEM IF YOU ACTUALLY PUT OUT THAT IN TERMS OF TELLING 14 PEOPLE THAT WE ARE "X", "Y" AND "Z". AND WE ARE A LONG 15 WAYS FROM THAT. WE HAVE TO GET A TREMENDOUS SUMMER, AND 16 WE HAVE TO DO EXTREMELY WELL IN BOTH CREDIT AND NONCREDIT. 17 AND WE HAVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS EFFORT THAT WE ARE 18 ALL DOING IN TERMS OF THESE SHORT-TERM COURSES. 19 AND THE SACRIFICES THAT THE FACULTY AND OTHERS 20 ARE MAKING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO 21 CONTINUE THE FULL COURT PRESS. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON 24 TERMS OF THAT SHORT-TERM CLASSES. I KNOW I HAVE BEEN 25 WORKING WITH SOME PEOPLE OUT OF THE TRANSITIONAL STUDIES. MARCH 24, 2011 87 1 I THINK WE HAVE -- RAISE YOUR HAND MAN. 2 WE'VE GOT -- AND MS. LYDIA JENKINS AS WELL. 3 WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO PUT TWO GED CLASSES. ONE 4 INSIDE THE VISITACION VALLEY COMMUNITY CENTER AND ALSO ONE 5 INSIDE THE A. PHILIP RANDOLPH INSTITUTE. THEY HAVE A 6 CLASSROOM AS WELL. AND SO EACH OF THOSE CLASSES ARE GOING 7 TO BE HOSTING ABOUT 15 TO 20 STUDENTS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, 8 REALLY GETTING THOSE CLASSES INTO THE COMMUNITY IS A 9 REALLY GOOD JUMPING OFF POINT. 10 AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK, YOU KNOW, 11 ADMINISTRATION, FACULTY, AND STAFF FOR WORKING WITH 12 COMMUNITY LEADERS TO GET SOME OF THOSE CLASSES INSIDE SOME 13 OF THE COMMUNITY CENTERS OUT THERE WHICH IN TURN BOOSTS 14 ENROLLMENT. AND THE MORE WE CAN FORM SOME OF THOSE 15 COLLEGE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS WITH SOME OF THESE 16 SHORT-TERM CLASSES, I THINK WE WILL SEE SOME OF THAT 17 SUCCESS AS WELL. 18 SO I SAW TWO PEOPLE THERE WHO ARE VERY IMPORTANT 19 IN ESTABLISHING SOME GED CLASSES INSIDE THE SOUTHEAST 20 SECTOR OF SAN FRANCISCO. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A 21 LOT OF THANKS. AND, HOPEFULLY, WE CAN CONTINUE IN THESE 22 TYPES OF PARTNERSHIPS. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALL RIGHT. 24 THE DISCOURAGING NEWS IS THAT THERE'S STILL NO 25 DEAL, OF COURSE, IN SACRAMENTO. TIME CONTINUES TO GO BY. MARCH 24, 2011 88 1 AND THE ABILITY FOR THE GOVERNOR TO REACH A COMPROMISE 2 WITH REPUBLICANS THAT WOULD RESULT IN A JUNE ELECTION IS 3 GOING BY THE DAY. THE CHANCES ARE BEING REDUCED BY THE 4 DAY I SHOULD SAY. 5 THERE HAVE BEEN SOME STORIES IN THE NEWS ABOUT 6 ALTERNATE STRATEGIES PERHAPS, A LATER ELECTION, ET CETERA. 7 NONE OF THEM PRODUCE AS GOOD AS OF RESULT AS THE ONE THAT 8 WOULD BE ACHIEVED IF THE GOVERNOR COULD REACH HIS 9 AGREEMENT WITH THE REPUBLICANS TO GET ON THE JUNE BALLOT. 10 WE CONTINUE TO PREPARE FOR A REDUCED BUDGET FOR 11 NEXT YEAR. OF COURSE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW HOW MUCH 12 THAT WILL BE REDUCED BY UNTIL THERE IS SOME KIND OF 13 AGREEMENT IN SACRAMENTO ABOUT WHICH WAY THAT TURNS, BUT WE 14 WILL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THAT AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. 15 THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: THIS IS NOT FOR YOU, PETER, BUT I 18 THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR 19 NUMBERS AND THE MARCH IN MARCH WHY WE DID THAT, AND THAT 20 WE GET THIS REVENUE FROM SACRAMENTO AND THE BUDGET DEAL IS 21 VERY KEY TO US DOING THAT THAT WE HAVE OUR GOVERNMENT 22 RELATIONS PERSON HERE, AND THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING NEWS 23 ABOUT SACRAMENTO FROM YOU, AND THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO 24 SHOULD BE DOING THAT FOR US ON A REGULAR BASIS, ESPECIALLY 25 NOW. THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT. MARCH 24, 2011 89 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALL RIGHT. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: NOT A QUESTION. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO KEEP 4 ABREAST OF IS THAT A LOT OF OBSERVERS THINK THAT A JUNE 5 ELECTION IS NOW IMPOSSIBLE. AND THAT IF THERE IS AN 6 ELECTION THAT IT WILL BE IN NOVEMBER. THIS IS FOR THE 7 STATE REVENUE MEASURES THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS PROPOSED. 8 WHICH MEANS THAT OUR TASK FOR THIS BUDGET THAT 9 WE ARE PREPARING MUST BE FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO 10 ASSUMING THAT THERE IS NO JUNE BALLOT MEASURE, BALLOT TAX 11 REVENUE MEASURE. 12 SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY DEALT WITH THAT. I THINK 13 WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD COVER A $26 MILLION 14 CUTBACK FROM THE STATE. OR A 30 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLAR 15 DEFICIT IS WHAT IT TRANSLATES INTO. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO 16 STOP ASSUMING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN BETWEEN THE WORST 17 CASE AND THE BEST CASE AND ASSUME THAT IT'S THE WORST CASE 18 AND WORK TOWARDS THAT BECAUSE IT IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE 19 LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE. AND I THINK WE NEED 20 TO FACE UP TO REALITY AND DO THAT. 21 NOW I HAD ASKED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO FOR SOME 22 INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE DISTRICT IS SPENDING. AND, 23 MR. GOLDSTEIN, I WAS WONDERING IF THAT HAD BEEN PREPARED 24 YET. I HAD ASKED FOR WHAT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS COST US 25 IN THIS CURRENT YEAR AND THE PREVIOUS YEAR, YOU KNOW, HR, MARCH 24, 2011 90 1 PAYROLL, ET CETERA, AND WHAT SOME OF THE ACADEMIC 2 DEPARTMENTS COST US. AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE HAD THOSE 3 FIGURES YET. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THEM FOR 5 YOU TONIGHT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BUT OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE THEM 8 AVAILABLE FOR THE NEXT BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT, IT WOULD COINSIDE, 11 THE DATA THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, WOULD COINSIDE WITH THE 12 INSTRUCTIONAL OFFERING AND COUNSELING CATEGORY FOR THE 13 BUDGET ON APRIL 7TH. AND I FULLY EXPECT THAT WE WILL HAVE 14 AN ASSESSMENT OF THOSE NUMBERS AND ASSESS IT IN THE 15 CONTEXT OF HOW WE MAKE OUR MONEY WHICH IS FTES. AND SO I 16 THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. 17 BUT THANK YOU FOR RAISING IT TONIGHT BECAUSE IT 18 IS VERY IMPORTANT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I HAVE A -- I DO HAVE A 21 BUDGET PLAN FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AS WELL AS LESSER 22 CASE SCENARIOS WHICH AFTER REVIEWING IT WITH PRESIDENT 23 RIZZO, I WOULD BE PREPARED TO GIVE IT TO ALL OF THE BOARD 24 MEMBERS, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT THE 25 ADMINISTRATION AT LEAST INDICATE WHERE WE THINK WE NEED TO MARCH 24, 2011 91 1 GO IN TERMS OF THIS. IT'S NOT TO COME TO A DECISION. THE 2 BOARD HAS TO MAKE THE DECISION, OF COURSE, IN TERMS OF 3 SOME OF THE SPECIFICS, BUT IT WOULD UPDATE THE BOARD IN 4 TERMS OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO AND THE BEST CASE. 5 JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR EVERYONE. 6 THE WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BY THE STATE 7 IN TERMS OF CUT IS $24 MILLION FOR STATE CUTS. AND WHAT 8 WE DO WITH THAT $24 MILLION CUT FROM THE STATE HAS TO BE 9 DISAGGREGATED FROM WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LOCALLY IN 10 TERMS OF WHAT WE LIKE TO SPEND THAT ARE EXPENSES THAT ARE 11 LOCAL. BUT WE COULD VERY MUCH VERY EASILY FACE A 12 $24 MILLION CUT FROM THE STATE. 13 AND SO SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS HAVE TO BE 14 LOWERED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO LOCALLY IN TERMS OF 15 ADDING TO THAT $24 MILLION. AND THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE 16 REALLY IS. IT IS NOT ONLY THE $24 MILLION FROM THE STATE, 17 BUT IT'S PEOPLE BELIEVING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO 18 BUSINESS AS USUAL IF WE GET A $24 MILLION CUT FROM THE 19 STATE. AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS AS USUAL AND 20 SOME VERY DRASTIC SOLUTIONS HAVE TO BE ADDED TO DEAL WITH 21 THE 24 MILLION. 22 I'M NOT SAYING AT ALL THAT WE CAN'T DO IT. IT'S 23 CERTAINLY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF WHAT WE CAN DO. AND 24 THAT'S WHY I WANT TO PRESENT THE ADMINISTRATION PLAN FOR 25 THAT. SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T MARCH 24, 2011 92 1 HAVE A PLAN AND THAT THIS IS NOT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF 2 THE COLLEGE TO DEAL WITH. WE WON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE 3 THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME PRETTY TERRIBLE THINGS AS FAR AS 4 WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS READY TO 8 PRESENT IT AT THE APRIL 7TH MEETING, IT'S AGENDIZED NOW 9 FOR JUNE. BUT IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT THE WORST CASE 10 SCENARIO EARLIER, LET ME KNOW. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SURE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, I THINK WE HAVE 14 TO BECAUSE AS I SAID, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKELY THAT THERE'S 15 GOING TO BE A JUNE ELECTION. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CAN I -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, SURE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CAN I ASK JUST ONE 19 QUESTION. DOES YOUR WORST CASE SCENARIO INVOLVE ANY TYPE 20 OF LAYOFFS FOR FACULTY OR STAFF OR FOR ADMINISTRATION? 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT ME TO 22 GO INTO? 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE SCENARIOS THAT ARE 25 ENVISIONED ARE THREE SCENARIOS. ONE WITH A $8.5 MILLION MARCH 24, 2011 93 1 CUT FROM THE STATE. ONE WITH A $16 MILLION CUT FROM THE 2 STATE. AND ONE FOR $24 MILLION THE STATE. 3 SO THE WORST CASE SCENARIO -- IN THE WORST CASE 4 SCENARIO IT WOULD CALL FOR TWO POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. 5 THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE AN ACROSS THE BOARD 6 SALARY CUT OF A PARTICULAR PERCENT. IT'S NOT A LARGE 7 NUMBER OF A PERCENT, BUT IT IS STILL A PERCENT IN ORDER TO 8 BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION. SO IN THAT WORST CASE 9 SCENARIO, IT WOULD BE EITHER 3 PERCENT OR 2 TO 3 PERCENT 10 CUT ACROSS THE BOARD OR WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT LAYOFFS. 11 "OR" NOT "AND", BUT "OR" LAYOFFS. 12 SO IF WE WERE TO DO THAT IN THE WORST CASE 13 SCENARIO, IT WOULD BE A SITUATION OF CHOOSING WHETHER WE 14 ARE GOING TO DO SOME LAYOFFS OR WHETHER WE ARE GOING TO DO 15 ACROSS THE BOARD PERCENT CUT. SO THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE 16 $24 MILLION SCENARIO. 17 WITH THE $16 MILLION SCENARIO, IT WOULD NOT CALL 18 FOR THOSE TWO SOLUTIONS. BUT IT WOULD CALL FOR SOME OTHER 19 SOLUTIONS. AND FOR THE 8.5 MILLION, IT WOULD BE OF COURSE 20 A WHOLE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BALL GAME. 21 SO WE CAN PRESENT THAT AT THE HEARING. AND I 22 THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE SOME OF THE 23 THINGS THAT I HAVE NOT INCLUDED, CERTAINLY THE PLANNING 24 AND BUDGET COUNCIL OF THE BOARD IS LOOKING VERY 25 COMPREHENSIVELY INTO ALL ASPECTS OF A BUDGET. THERE ARE MARCH 24, 2011 94 1 NO SACRED COWS AS FAR AS THE BUDGET IS CONCERNED. AND SO 2 THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL OF THIS. 3 AND IF WE GET A $24 MILLION CUT ON A BUDGET 4 THAT'S EFFECTIVELY ONLY ABOUT 175 MILLION FROM THE STATE 5 AS WELL AS ANOTHER 20 MILLION OR 25 MILLION OR SO FROM 6 OTHER SOURCES, JUST THINK OF WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S OVER A 7 10 PERCENT. THAT'S MORE LIKE A 12 PERCENT CUT OVERALL 8 COMING FROM THE STATE, 12 PERCENT. 9 SO EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE SO FAR TO WORK TOGETHER 10 HAS BEEN VERY, VERY POSITIVE. AND IF WE DO THE THINGS WE 11 NEED TO DO AND STICK TOGETHER, WE COULD STILL DEAL WITH 12 THE $16 MILLION CUT, BUT A $24 MILLION CUT MEANS THAT 13 SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A HIT. AND IT'S NOT 14 JUST GOING TO BE CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. IT'S 15 GOING TO BE ALL OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES UP AND DOWN THE 16 STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR SURE. NOT GUESS WORK, FOR SURE. 17 AND THAT'S WHY ALL THE STRATEGIES THAT WE ARE 18 USING. WE ARE USING AN ENROLLMENT STRATEGY TO BRING IN 19 MONEY. WE ARE USING A STRATEGY WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY 20 TO TRY TO BRING IN MONEY OR REDUCE OUR EXPENDITURES. WE 21 ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE RAISING FUNDS AND TRYING TO ACHIEVE 22 A $5 MILLION TOTAL FUNDS RAISED THIS YEAR FOR BOTH CLASSES 23 AND FOR SCHOLARSHIPS COMBINED $5 MILLION THAT'S OUR 24 TARGET, WHICH WE THINK WE WILL ACHIEVE. THESE THINGS WE 25 ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE DOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS. MARCH 24, 2011 95 1 BUT ULTIMATELY, IF IT'S $24 MILLION, EVERYBODY 2 NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR SALARIES ARE GOING TO BE 3 CUT. THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND. IT'S NOT US 4 CUTTING IT, BUT THE SALARY WILL GET CUT. 5 I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK IT'S GOING TO BE 6 $24 MILLION, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO PLAN FOR IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? 9 ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON. 10 ACTUALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE 11 BREAK JUST SO WE COULD STRETCH OUR LEGS. IF THERE'S NO 12 OBJECTION FROM THE BOARD. 13 ALL RIGHT. WE ARE IN RECESS. 14 (RECESS TAKEN.) 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE GOING TO TAKE S4 AND S5 16 RIGHT NOW IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION. 17 LET'S MOVE TO S4. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WILL MOVE S4. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND IT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD YOU READ THE -- 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S4 IS "APPROVAL OF NEW 22 COURSES AND INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS RECOMMENDED BY THE 23 COLLEGE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE." 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO I'VE ASKED ABOUT THIS IN 25 PRIOR YEARS. EXPLAIN THE PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH. I MARCH 24, 2011 96 1 CAN READ IT HERE, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THIS WAS EVER 2 FOLLOWED. 3 SPEAKER UNKNOWN: (INAUDIBLE.) 4 MR. BOEGEL: I WILL START BY INTRODUCING MYSELF. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: EXACTLY. 6 MR. BOEGEL: TOM BOEGEL, DEAN OF CURRICULUM. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: UNDER EVALUATION 2(A), 2(E) -- 8 2(A), 2(F). 9 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY, YOUR -- 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: ON THE ACCREDITATION. 11 MR. BOEGEL: YOU ARE BACK ON THE ACCREDITATION. 12 OKAY, I DON'T HAVE THAT DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, CAN YOU GET IT FROM KAREN 14 MAYBE. 15 MR. BOEGEL: DO YOU HAVE THE ACCREDITATION 2(A), 16 2(E)? 17 OH, PERFECT. THANK YOU. I CAN GO FROM HERE. 18 OKAY, SO YOU ARE REFERRING TO "THE INSTITUTION 19 EVALUATES ALL COURSES OR PROGRAMS THROUGH AN ONGOING 20 SYSTEMATIC REVIEW OF THE RELEVANCE," ET CETERA. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 22 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO I AM TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF 24 HOW SYSTEMATICALLY THOSE ARE FOLLOWED AS WE ARE PRESENTED 25 WITH NEW COURSE OFFERINGS TO APPROVE. MARCH 24, 2011 97 1 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. THE NEW COURSES AND PROGRAMS 2 THAT YOU SEE THAT ARE COMING FROM THE COLLEGE'S CURRICULUM 3 COMMITTEE ARE PRESENTED TO THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE BY THE 4 VARIOUS ACADEMIC DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COLLEGE. 5 AND THEREFORE, THE PRODUCT OF WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY 6 THOSE ACADEMIC DEPARTMENTS. 7 FOR EXAMPLE, JUST LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT WE 8 HAVE IN FRONT OF US HERE TODAY. THE ENGINEERING AND 9 TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT, YOU WILL SEE A VARIETY NEW COURSES 10 IN BIOMEDICAL INSTRUMENTATION. THIS IS WORK THAT 11 DEPARTMENT HAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH UCSF. THE PEOPLE 12 WHO ARE RUNNING UCSF HAVE A NEED TO BE ABLE TO -- HAVE A 13 NEED FOR A WORKFORCE THAT IS ABLE TO DO MAINTENANCE OF 14 THIS SORT OF INSTRUMENTATION WITHOUT RELYING ON THE 15 FRANKLY HIGH-PRICED MAINTENANCE THEY GET OUT OF THE 16 VENDORS. 17 AND SO OUR ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT 18 COLLABORATED WITH THEM, WORKED WITH THEM ON THE SUBJECT 19 MATTER, THE ORGANIZATION OF THAT SUBJECT MATTER INTO 20 INDIVIDUAL COURSES AND DEVELOPED AND DID A LITTLE 21 COURSEWORK AND A CERTIFICATE PROGRAM TO TRAIN WORKERS TO 22 BE ABLE TO DO THIS SORT OF WORK. THERE'S STILL A LITTLE 23 PREREQUISITE COURSEWORK THAT THEY WILL HAVE THAT WE 24 ALREADY HAVE IN ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY. SOME BASIC 25 ELECTRICAL AC/DC THEORY TYPE STUFF. THERE'S AN ANATOMY MARCH 24, 2011 98 1 COURSE THAT'S ALSO GOING TO WIND UP BEING A PREREQUISITE 2 COURSE TO THIS AS WELL. SO THAT IS THE SORT OF PROCESS 3 THAT INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING. 4 AND IN TERMS OF THE SYSTEMATIC NATURE OF THIS, I 5 THINK THE SYSTEMATIC NATURE IS BUILT INTO OUR 6 NEWLY-REVITALIZED PROGRAM REVIEW PROCESS. THE PROGRAM 7 REVIEW PROCESS THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS 8 HAS ASKED FOR DEPARTMENTS TO SPEAK TO THEIR EFFORTS AT THE 9 ASSESSMENT OF LEARNING OUTCOMES AND TO THE UPDATES TO 10 CURRICULUMS THAT THEY'VE MADE AS A RESULT OF THE 11 ASSESSMENT OF LEARNING OUTCOMES. 12 AND AS YOU READ THROUGH THE ACCREDITATION 13 STANDARDS, YOU SEE THIS LEARNING OUTCOME PHRASE OVER AND 14 OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IN FACT LOST PUBLISHES OF VERSION OF 15 THE ACCREDITATION STANDARDS WHERE ALL OF THE LEARNING 16 OUTCOME LANGUAGE IS YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED AND HALF THE PAGE 17 IS YELLOW OF ANY GIVEN PAGE. SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES HAVE 18 SEEN THAT VERSION. 19 AND SO AGAIN, THE PROGRAM REVIEW PROCESS IS THE 20 PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS BEEN 21 DOING. EVERY UNIT HAS BEEN DOING EVERY SINGLE YEAR. THEY 22 HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO SPEAK TO HOW THEY ARE KEEPING THEIR 23 COURSES RELEVANT AND THEIR PROGRAMS RELEVANT. AND 24 FRANKLY, WE SEE A LOT OF WORK AT THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE. 25 THROUGH THIS BOARD RESOLUTION THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF MARCH 24, 2011 99 1 YOU, IT COVERS THROUGH THE MARCH 16TH CURRICULUM COMMITTEE 2 MEETING. AND I WAS DOING SOME COUNTING. THROUGH THAT 3 DATE FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS ACADEMIC YEAR, THE 4 CURRICULUM COMMITTEE HAS FIELDED SOMETHING LIKE 491 5 DIFFERENT ITEMS FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AS THEY HAVE 6 BEEN GOING THROUGH. 7 THERE HAVE BEEN A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS THAT 8 HAVE FRANKLY DELETED A BUNCH OF COURSES. WE DELETED THE 9 TV AND VCR REPAIR COURSE. WE HAVEN'T OFFERED IT IN QUITE 10 A WHILE. AND IT'S JUST NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE. 11 SO AGAIN, I THINK IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION OF 12 WHAT'S THE ONGOING AND SYSTEMATIC WAY OF DOING THIS? 13 THERE IS A PROGRAM REVIEW PROCESS THAT ASKS 14 ABOUT HOW DEPARTMENT SERVICE IS TESTING LEARNING OUTCOMES 15 AND IT IS REALLY AN ASSESSMENT OF LEARNING OUTCOMES AND 16 WORK WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES AS WELL. THAT HELPS DRIVE THIS 17 PROBLEM. 18 AGAIN, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE CTE TYPE 19 PROGRAMS, THE VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS, THEY HAVE INDUSTRY 20 ADVISORY BOARDS THAT THEY MEET WITH AT LEAST ANNUALLY. WE 21 HAVE A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS THAT HAVE SOME SORT OF EXTERNAL 22 ACCREDITATION OFFERED WITHIN ALLIED HEALTH. THAT EXTERNAL 23 ACCREDITATION DRIVES SOME PROGRAMMATIC CHANGE. YOU'VE 24 SEEN SOME OF THAT IN FIRE SCIENCE. THEY'VE BEEN DOING A 25 LOT OF CHANGES AND UPDATES RECENTLY WITH REGARD TO THAT. MARCH 24, 2011 100 1 AND THEN YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, IN SOME OF OUR MORE 2 TRANSFER ORIENTED PROGRAMS AS THEY WORK WITH THEIR 3 COLLEAGUES AND THEIR COLLEAGUES WITHIN THE CSU AND UC 4 SYSTEM, THAT HELPS DRIVE SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMMATIC 5 CHANGES AS WELL. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: DOES THE BOARD SEE PROGRAM 7 REVIEW? 8 PROGRAM REVIEW IN IT'S FINAL FORM? DO WE EVER 9 TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND -- 10 MR. BOEGEL: THE PROGRAM REVIEW COMMITTEE 11 PROVIDES REPORTS I KNOW TO OUR COLLEGE'S PLANNING AND 12 BUDGETING COUNCIL. I AM GOING TO -- 13 THE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM REVIEW DOCUMENTS ARE 14 ONLINE. I THINK OUR RESEARCH AND PLANNING WEBSITE HAS 15 INFORMATION THAT LINKS BACK TO PROGRAM REVIEW. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I JUST HAVE A POINT OF 17 INFORMATION. WHEN YOU GUYS STUFF IS IN THE WEB, IT'S NOT 18 LIKE WE GO TROLLING THE WEBSITE EVERY SINGLE DAY TO SEE 19 WHAT'S NEW CONTENT. SO WHEN YOU GUYS SAY, OH, IT'S ON THE 20 WEB, THAT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY ISN'T THE KIND OF 21 OUTREACH AND SOLICITATION OF INPUT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS 22 ARE LOOKING FOR. 23 LIKE WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE WEB, I WOULD 24 SAY IT IS MORE CONVENIENT JUST FOR TRUSTEES CANDIDLY. YOU 25 KNOW, IF YOU E-MAIL IT -- AND IF YOU COULD PUT ON THE MARCH 24, 2011 101 1 WEB -- I'M NOT THE GREATEST AT COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY, BUT 2 I'M PRETTY SURE IF IT'S ON THE WEB, YOU CAN E-MAIL IT. SO 3 E-MAIL THAT STUFF TO US, SO IT'S RELEVANT. BUT LIKE 4 SAYING IT IS ON THE WEB, LIKE, PLEASE, DON'T SAY THAT 5 ANYMORE BECAUSE I DON'T TROLL CITY COLLEGE'S WEBSITE LIKE 6 EVERYDAY TO CHECK OUT WHAT'S NEW ON CITY COLLEGE. I'M 7 SORRY, SO E-MAIL IT TO US. THANK YOU. 8 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU INDICATED 10 A CPI REPORT FROM 2006 TO 2008, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE 11 LATEST VERSION. THIS ISN'T YOU. THIS IS THEM. 12 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE 14 CHECKED. 15 MS. SAGINOR: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING IN 16 THE ACCREDITATION REPORT? 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 18 MS. SAGINOR: OH, YES, ALL THESE HAVE TO BE 19 UPDATED. 20 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, I'M NOT -- I CAN'T VOTE 22 FOR THIS. AS I'VE EXPRESSED NUMEROUS TIMES, I JUST CAN'T. 23 IT DOESN'T PUT ME IN CONTROL OF THE SITUATION. IT DOESN'T 24 MAKE ME FEEL GOOD. AND SO I KNOW YOU ARE -- WE ARE NOT 25 GOING TO HAVE BAD BLOOD BETWEEN US, BUT I THINK THERE ARE MARCH 24, 2011 102 1 WAYS TO IMPROVE THINGS. 2 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE TRUSTEE JACKSON AND 4 THEN TRUSTEE GRIER. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE ON 6 A POSITIVE NOTE -- I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO HAVE A 7 NEW MAJOR WITH THE LESBIAN GAY BISEXUAL AND TRANSGENDER 8 MAJOR. AND I BELIEVE THAT MAKES US THE FIRST COMMUNITY 9 COLLEGE IN THE NATION TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF A MAJOR. AND 10 SO I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE FACULTY AND STAFF AND 11 ADMINISTRATION WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THAT IN TERMS OF 12 HAVING THAT NEW MAJOR. SO I THINK THAT IS A MAJOR STEP 13 FORWARD IN TERMS OF CURRICULUM. SO I ACTUALLY WANTED TO 14 CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS ON GETTING THAT OUT THERE, SO THANK 15 YOU. 16 MR. BOEGEL: THANK YOU. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT RIZZO. 19 I THINK EVERY TIME ABOUT THIS TIME OF YEAR THIS 20 COMES BEFORE US INFORMATION ABOUT THE APPROVAL OF NEW 21 COURSES AND RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH I AM UNDERSTANDING A 22 LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I USED TO UNDERSTAND. 23 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: I HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH AND I 25 HAVE A COMMENT. AND THE COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH HOW YOU MARCH 24, 2011 103 1 EXPLAINED THE ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY PROGRAM. AND SO IT 2 SHOWS HOW WE ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE NEEDS OF THE CITY, 3 THE NEEDS FOR JOBS, THE CREATION AND A PATHWAY TO GET 4 THERE. AND IT'S ALSO COLLABORATION IN WHAT'S BEST FOR THE 5 CITY AND WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE FUTURE. SO THAT'S THE 6 WAY I SEE THAT. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S NEEDED AND 7 I CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. 8 WHAT I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IS THE PLACEMENT OF 9 THE COURSES. AS I GO AROUND TO THE DIFFERENT CAMPUSES, 10 I'M ASKED THE QUESTION, WELL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS 11 COURSE HERE? WHY IS IT I HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE 12 OCEAN CAMPUS? 13 AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE 14 COURSE OFFERINGS AND WHAT'S NEEDED IN ORDER TO GET THE 15 DEGREE OR TO GET THE CERTIFICATE, BUT I'M AT A LOSS TO 16 EXPLAIN AND JUSTIFY, ESPECIALLY IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN 17 COMMUNITY AND THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, THE QUESTION WHY DON'T 18 WE HAVE OTHER COURSES THAT WE CAN TAKE OTHER THAN THE ONES 19 WE HAVE. 20 MR. BOEGEL: THE QUESTION OF PLACEMENT OF 21 COURSES AND SCHEDULING COURSES OFTEN COMES UP WHEN THIS 22 BOARD RESOLUTION COMES UP. AND I WILL REMIND YOU THAT 23 WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY IS REALLY JUST THE 24 APPROVAL OF THE COURSEWORK. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. MARCH 24, 2011 104 1 MR. BOEGEL: THE SCHEDULING IS REALLY DONE UNDER 2 A SEPARATE ENTITY. AND TO SOME EXTENT SOME OF THE 3 SCHEDULING ISSUES ARE EQUIPMENT ISSUES AND FACILITY 4 ISSUES. 5 FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SEE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT 6 PROGRAMS IN AUTOMOTIVE AND MOTORCYCLE. THE ALTERNATIVE 7 FUEL TECHNOLOGY STRIPPING IS A NEW ONE. THAT PROGRAM IS 8 GOING TO BE OVER AT THE EVANS CAMPUS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE 9 THE AUTO PROGRAM IS. AND FOR US TO REPLICATE THAT OVER AT 10 THE MISSION CAMPUS WOULD BE REALLY EXPENSIVE. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 12 MR. BOEGEL: AND WE SEE THAT WITH SOME OF THE 13 OTHER ONES AS WELL. WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS IN REPLICATING 14 FOR EXAMPLE SOME OF THE BIOTECHNOLOGY COURSEWORK HERE AT 15 THE OCEAN CAMPUS AND OVER AT THE MISSION CAMPUS. BUT 16 THERE IS, FRANKLY, SOME COST ISSUES WITH DOING SOME OF 17 THIS DUPLICATION AT MANY DIFFERENT CAMPUSES. 18 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT 19 FOR US TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVE INTO THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS, 20 FRANKLY, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING THIS. I'M 21 THINKING OF MYSELF AS A FORMER ACTING DEAN OF SCIENCE AND 22 MATH. WE HAVE A STATE ADMISSION TO OFFER SOME OF THE LAB 23 SCIENCES OVER AT THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS, SO WE ARE GOING TO 24 NEED TO HAVE CHEMICALS OVER THERE FOR CHEMISTRY COURSES 25 AND SUPPLIES FOR BIOLOGY COURSES. AND THAT'S NOT THE SORT MARCH 24, 2011 105 1 OF THING THAT WE CAN JUST DRIVE IN MY CAR ACROSS TOWN. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AND I'VE ALREADY HEARD, IF I MAY 3 THROUGH THE CHAIR, THAT THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE WILL BE A 4 CHALLENGE TO OFFER CERTAIN COURSES. AND WE HAVE TO BE 5 VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT AND THAT PLAYS INTO THE EQUATION. 6 WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: TOM, THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO 8 ANSWER THAT. 9 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: BUT I GUESS IT'S VICE CHANCELLOR 11 MURILLO WHO SHOULD ANSWER THE QUESTION. 12 MR. BOEGEL: THIS IS THE SCHEDULING OF CLASSES 13 AT THE VARIETY OF CAMPUSES AND HOW WE MAKE THAT DECISION. 14 VCAA MURILLO: WELL, FIRST OF ALL WITH THE 15 GENERAL EDUCATION CLASSES, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT 16 WE INTRODUCE MORE GE CLASSES TO CAMPUSES THAT 17 TRADITIONALLY HAVE NOT THEM. AND WHEN WE INTRODUCE THOSE 18 CLASSES, WE TRY TO LOOK AT A PLAN SO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE 19 MAKE SURE THAT OVER A FOUR-SEMESTER PERIOD, THE GE'S THAT 20 ARE REQUIRED FOR AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE ARE OFFERED AT LEAST 21 SO STUDENTS AT THAT SITE AT LEAST IN THE TWO-YEAR PERIOD 22 HAVE ALL THEIR GE REQUIREMENTS MET AT THE SITE. 23 AND IN SOME CASES IT'S TIED TO FACILITIES. AND 24 THEREFORE, AS WE DEVELOP NEW CAMPUSES LIKE IN MISSION, WE 25 MADE SURE WE INCLUDED A SCIENCE LABORATORY SO WE COULD MARCH 24, 2011 106 1 INCLUDE THE SCIENCE COMPONENT. WE ARE DOING THE SAME 2 THING IN CHINATOWN, INCLUDING THE SCIENCE LABORATORY SO 3 THOSE COURSES CAN BE OFFERED. 4 SOMETIMES DEDICATED SPACE IS PART OF THE 5 PLANNING PROCESS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW WITH 6 CHINATOWN, THERE'S A SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO 7 CULINARY FOR A PROGRAM THAT WILL THEN FEED INTO THE 8 DOWNTOWN PROGRAM. SO THAT SOMETIMES IS DEDICATED SPACE. 9 OUR GOAL IS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE LOCAL 10 COMMUNITY. SO IN THE CASE OF DOWNTOWN CAMPUS, WE TEND TO 11 HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS CLASSES THAT RESPOND TO THE 12 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN THE AREA AND CAN TAKE CLASSES RIGHT 13 AFTER WORK OR ON THEIR LUNCH BREAK. 14 AND THEN WE'VE DONE A REVIEW OF COURSES THAT 15 HAVE BEEN TRADITIONALLY OFFERED AT CERTAIN CAMPUSES. AND 16 IF WE FIND THAT WITH ONE MORE CLASS INCLUDED AT THAT SITE, 17 THE STUDENTS CAN COMPLETE A CERTIFICATE, THEN WE START TO 18 INTRODUCE THOSE CLASSES TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE 19 COMPLETE SEQUENCE THERE. SO THAT'S HOW WE TRY TO RESPOND 20 TO THE COMMUNITIES. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: THROUGH THE CHAIR, COULD YOU BE 22 MORE SPECIFIC IN PARTICULAR TO THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. AND 23 I DO UNDERSTAND AND I WAS GETTING A PATTERN HERE. WE ARE 24 TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTHEAST. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 25 CULINARY ARTS PROGRAM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, BUT I MARCH 24, 2011 107 1 DON'T THINK IS THERE. 2 I ALSO GET QUESTIONS ABOUT COURSES THAT ARE 3 TRANSFERABLE. AND THEN I GET QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IS IT 4 THAT THEY CAN ENRICH THE CAMPUS BY MAKING IT MORE 5 ATTRACTIVE AND WORTHWHILE TO THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS A VERY 6 BROAD QUESTION. BUT THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE BEEN 7 ASKED. I'M AT A LOSS TO ANSWER. 8 VCAA MURILLO: BACK IN FALL OF 2009, THE 9 CHANCELLOR GUIDED US TOWARDS THE INITIATIVE OF EXPANDING 10 THE OFFERINGS AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. AND THAT WAS 11 CREDIT COURSES, TRANSFERABLE COURSES. AND THAT'S WHEN WE 12 DESIGNED A FOUR-SEMESTER PLAN LOOKING AT THE GE. SO WE 13 SAT DOWN WITH THE CAMPUS DEAN AT THE TIME, TOM BOEGEL AND 14 MYSELF. AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT ALL THE CATEGORIES OF GE, 15 AND THAT'S HOW WE LAID OUT A FOUR-SEMESTER PLAN TO MAKE 16 SURE ALL THE GE OPTIONS WERE AVAILABLE AND ON A ROTATING 17 BASIS. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: GE IS GENERAL ED. 19 VCAA MURILLO: GENERAL EDUCATION. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 21 VCAA MURILLO: THAT MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE 22 ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE. SO SOME OF THE COURSES ARE OFFERED 23 THEN ON AN ROTATING BASIS. BUT OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD, 24 THEY CAN COMPLETE ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS. 25 AT THE SAME TIME WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE MARCH 24, 2011 108 1 CERTAIN VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WERE VERY POPULAR AT 2 SOUTHEAST. ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE WAS ONE. AND 3 ANOTHER VOCATIONAL PROGRAM WAS CHILD DEVELOPMENT. SO WE 4 OFFERED THOSE ON A ROTATING BASIS TO ENSURE COMPLETION OF 5 CERTIFICATES. 6 IN CHILD DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ONE CASE WHERE WE 7 REALIZED WE HAD FOUR COURSES OR THREE WITH ONE MORE 8 COURSE, THEY COULD COMPLETE A CERTIFICATE THERE. THAT WAS 9 ADDED, AND IT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE AS WELL. SO THAT WAS 10 ONE PROJECT THAT BASED ON THAT INITIATIVE REALLY LOOKED AT 11 IT NOT PIECEMEAL BY COURSE, BUT RATHER PROGRAMMATICALLY. 12 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS ALSO HAS THE BRIDGE TO BIOTECH 13 AND SO THAT HAS BEEN A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE AND 14 THE COMMUNITY HAS RESPONDED TO THAT. AND THAT ALSO IS A 15 PROGRAM THAT ONCE COMPLETED, THEY CAN MOVE ONTO THE OCEAN 16 CAMPUS AND COMPLETE THE NEXT LEVEL OF BIOTECHNOLOGY. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND CULINARY ARTS? 18 VCAA MURILLO: WE DON'T HAVE CULINARY ARTS 19 THERE. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 21 VCAA MURILLO: SO I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT 22 PLAN. IT WAS PROBABLY BEFORE MY TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHY. 23 IF IT WAS THERE AND WHY IT WAS REMOVED, I'M NOT SURE. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: I THINK IT WAS STARTED THERE, 25 BUT IT DIDN'T CONTINUE. MARCH 24, 2011 109 1 IS THAT CORRECT, CHANCELLOR? 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I'VE HEARD IT WAS THERE A 3 NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND IF I STILL DON'T KNOW THE 5 ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO 6 ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT THE COMMUNITY IS RAISING? 7 VCAA MURILLO: WELL, FOR ME THE IMPORTANT THING 8 WOULD BE WHAT IS SPECIFICALLY -- WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR 9 SPECIFICALLY? 10 I WILL GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES. WE HAVE BEEN 11 REQUESTED TO OFFER COMPUTER REPAIR AT SOUTHEAST. AND IN 12 REALITY -- 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: I REMEMBER THAT. 14 VCAA MURILLO: -- THAT IS NOT THE BEST DIRECTION 15 FOR THAT FIELD. IN REALITY THERE ARE OTHER COMPUTER 16 RELATED FIELDS THAT WE COULD STRENGTHEN FOR THE COMMUNITY, 17 AND WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE NATIONAL SCIENCE 18 FOUNDATION BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT NEW INITIATIVES. 19 AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE TIED TO BECAUSE THEN 20 WE KNOW THAT THERE IS DEMAND FOR IT. IT'S A FIELD THAT 21 WOULD BE SUPPORTED THROUGH GRANTS, BUT COMPUTER REPAIR IS 22 NOT ONE THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE A JOB FOR THE COMMUNITY 23 MEMBERS. COMPUTERS, THEY BREAK DOWN. AND IF YOU DON'T 24 HAVE A WARRANTY, THEN YOU JUST GET YOURSELF A NEW 25 COMPUTER. MARCH 24, 2011 110 1 ANOTHER REQUEST THAT WAS ALSO POSED BY SOUTHEAST 2 WAS THE INTEREST FOR NONCREDIT SEWING CLASSES. AND WHEN 3 WE DID A REVIEW OF THE ENROLLMENTS OF SOME OF THOSE 4 COURSES THAT MOVED TO EVANS, WE REALIZED THAT THE 5 ENROLLMENTS WERE LOW. WE HAD 25 HOURS OF NONCREDIT SEWING 6 CLASSES. AND IN SOME CASES SOME OF THOSE HOURS WE ONLY 7 HAD EIGHT TO NINE STUDENTS. WE FELT THAT WAS NOT THE BEST 8 USE OF OUR DOLLARS. WE STILL WANT TO MAINTAIN A PROGRAM, 9 SO WE REDUCED THE HOURS ACCORDINGLY. 10 AND THE INTEREST ON BEHALF OF THE FASHION 11 DEPARTMENT WHO OFFERS THOSE COURSES IS TO LOOK AT WAYS OF 12 PACKAGING THESE COURSES SO THEY PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT 13 OPPORTUNITIES. THEY ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE 14 EMPLOYERS IN PACKAGING PROGRAMS SHORT OF CERTIFICATES, BUT 15 THAT WOULD PROVIDE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT AWAY 16 WITH LOCAL EMPLOYERS. AND THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 17 THE FASHION DEPARTMENT IS TAKING ONE LARGE 18 CERTIFICATE AND BREAKING IT DOWN TO SMALLER ONES TO MAKE 19 IT MORE VIABLE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A HEAD START IN 20 TRANSITION AND TO WORK MORE QUICKLY. 21 SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE TACKLE AS WE MOVE 22 ALONG. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALWAYS DATA 23 DRIVEN AND RESPONSIVE, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE 24 INVEST CREATES JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE STUDENTS. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. THANK YOU. MARCH 24, 2011 111 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I JUST WANT TO SAY 3 THAT I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SOME WORK. I DON'T WANT TO 4 PAINT A ROSIER PICTURE OF THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. AND I 5 JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF TRUSTEES GRIER'S COMMENTS. 6 I DON'T BELIEVE IN A TWO-YEAR PERIOD WITH THE 7 COURSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT SOUTHEAST THAT YOU COULD GET 8 AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE. I AM FIGHTING THAT BECAUSE I LIVE 9 THERE. AND I SEE THE COURSEWORK. AND IT'S BARELY -- IT 10 DOESN'T EVEN FILL UP TWO PAGES. IT DOES NOT FILL UP TWO 11 PAGES. YOU GET ONE PAGE. YOU TURN THE PAGE, AND YOU ARE 12 ABOUT 3-QUARTERS OF THE WAY DOWN, AND THAT'S IT FOR 13 CLASSES. THAT'S IT. THERE IS NO WAY LOOKING AT THAT 14 COURSE LOAD THAT GOES ONE AND A HALF -- ONE AND 15 THREE-FOURTH'S PAGES THAT THAT EQUALS TWO YEARS, AND YOU 16 HAVE AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE. I AM FIGHTING THAT FOR EVERY -- 17 I'M NOT DONE. 18 VCAA MURILLO: OKAY. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME 20 OF THESE COURSES, YOU TALK ABOUT ESL FOR HEALTH 21 PROFESSIONALS. YOU KNOW, WE NOW -- SOUTHEAST IS A 22 MAJORITY ASIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU ARE TAUGHT -- 23 AND MOST -- A LOT OF FOLKS ARE, YOU KNOW, ESL. WHEN YOU 24 TALK ABOUT IF YOU ARE SAYING WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS, 25 ESPECIALLY WITH THE ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY COURSE MARCH 24, 2011 112 1 OFFERINGS WITH MEDICAL, UCSF IS RIGHT NOW ON 3RD STREET. 2 IT IS RIGHT -- IT'S ON THIRD STREET. BUT I AM ALMOST 3 CERTAIN THAT THESE COURSES ARE NOT MEANT TO GO TO 4 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE CLOSEST CAMPUS TO 5 UCSF. 6 AND SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MATCHING 7 EMPLOYERS NEEDS WITH THE CAMPUSES THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY, 8 CLOSE TO THEM, THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE BECAUSE IF YOU ARE 9 LOOKING AT HEALTHCARE, WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY BIG 10 CAMPUS. WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY BIG CAMPUS SITE WITH 11 UCSF AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SF GENERAL THAT IS RIGHT ON 12 PORTERO AVENUE. 13 AND I ASSURE YOU THAT THESE COURSES IN 14 ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY RELATED TO BIOMEDICAL AND MEDICAL 15 ARE NOT GOING TO SOUTHEAST. I ASSURE YOU THAT THE ESL FOR 16 HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS IS NOT GOING TO SOUTHEAST OR 17 EVANS. I ASSURE YOU THAT THAT'S NOT WHERE THESE CLASSES 18 ARE PLANNED. 19 AND WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE COMMUNITY AND 20 ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS THAT TRUSTEE GRIER HAS HAD TO 21 ANSWER FOR ALMOST 12 YEARS NOW AND QUESTIONS I HAVE HAD TO 22 ANSWER FOR ALMOST THREE NOW, YOU KIND OF GET TO A POINT 23 WHERE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE ARE ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND 24 LIKE MR. BOEGEL SAID, EVERY TIME HE BRINGS THIS UP, EITHER 25 MYSELF OR TRUSTEE GRIER OR BOTH OF US ASK WHERE ARE THESE MARCH 24, 2011 113 1 CLASSES GOING TO? ARE THEY GOING TO BE EVENLY 2 DISTRIBUTED? 3 BEFORE TRUSTEE GRIER, YOU KNOW, ASKED A 4 FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED EVERY SINGLE CAMPUS, 5 EXCEPT SOUTHEAST, AND SO I FIND THAT JUST REALLY TELLING. 6 THESE COURSES ARE NOT MEANT TO GO TO SOUTHEAST. YOU 7 CANNOT GO TO SOUTHEAST AND GET YOUR ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN 8 TWO YEARS BY JUST TAKING COURSEWORK AT SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 9 THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND I HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ON 10 THAT CAMPUS THAT I TALK TO ROUTINELY THAT KNOW THAT THAT'S 11 NOT THE TRUTH. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: LET THEM ANSWER. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: FEEL FREE. 14 VCAA MURILLO: LET ME RESTATE WHAT I SAID. I 15 SAID THE GENERAL EDUCATION COURSES ARE AVAILABLE IN A 16 TWO-YEAR CYCLE. THE GENERAL EDUCATION COURSES REPRESENT 17 18 TO 21 UNITS OUT OF THE 60 UNITS FOR AN ASSOCIATE 18 DEGREE. AND THEN THE MAJOR COMPONENT IS THEN SELECTED BY 19 THE STUDENT. AND DEPENDING UPON WHAT THEIR MAJOR IS, IT 20 MIGHT BE BIOLOGY. IT MIGHT BE CHEMISTRY. IT MIGHT BE 21 MATH. IT MIGHT BE SOCIAL SCIENCE. THE MAJOR COURSES 22 WHICH ARE HIGHER LEVEL AND SEQUENTIAL TEND TO BE AT THE 23 OCEAN CAMPUS BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME, THE PARTICIPATION. 24 AND DO WHAT I SAID WAS THE GENERAL EDUCATION 25 COURSES WERE SCHEDULED SO THAT THEY COULD BE AVAILABLE TO MARCH 24, 2011 114 1 THE STUDENTS THERE OVER A TWO-YEAR PERIOD. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THEY'RE NOT THERE. 3 VCAA MURILLO: THE OTHER COMMENT REGARDING 4 COURSES, WHEN WE OFFER COURSES DEPENDING UPON WHAT IT IS, 5 IT MIGHT NEED DEDICATED SPACE IN A PARTICULAR KIND OF 6 UNIQUE SPACE. SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN LOOKING AT 7 ANY ONE OF OUR CAMPUSES AS WE REMODEL AND EXPAND SOME OF 8 THOSE CAMPUSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DEDICATED TYPE OF 9 SPACE IS AVAILABLE. THAT'S WHAT WE DID AT MISSION WITH 10 THE SCIENCE LABS. THAT'S WHAT WE DID ALSO AT MISSION WITH 11 BROADCAST LABORATORIES. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING AT 12 CHINATOWN MAKING SURE WE HAVE LABORATORY LABS, THE SCIENCE 13 LABS SO WE COULD OFFER THE ARRAY OF SCIENCE COURSES. 14 RIGHT NOW, SOME OF THESE SPECIALTY COURSES 15 REQUIRE CERTAIN KINDS OF SPACE. AND UNLESS WE HAVE THE 16 SPACE THAT WE CAN REMODEL OR UPDATE ACCORDINGLY, IT MIGHT 17 BE DIFFICULT TO TAKE ALL OF OUR COURSES TO ALL THE 18 CAMPUSES. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ESL FOR HEALTH 20 PROFESSIONALS, I GO THERE TO SOUTHEAST CAMPUS 4:00 O'CLOCK 21 EVERY COUPLE -- AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. SOMETIMES EVEN MORE 22 THAN THAT. I ASSURE YOU I CAN JUST WALK INTO A CLASSROOM 23 AND THE HEIGHT -- I CAN GO THERE AT 2:00 O'CLOCK. I CAN 24 GO THERE AT 11:00 O'CLOCK. I ASSURE YOU I CAN FIND 25 CLASSROOM SPACE THAT IS OURS THAT WE LEASE THAT IS MARCH 24, 2011 115 1 UNFILLED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HEART OF SCHOOL HOURS. 2 SO IF YOU ARE SAYING IT'S A SPACE ISSUE, WHY CAN 3 I WALK INTO SOUTHEAST CAMPUS AT ABOUT 2:00 O'CLOCK, GO TO 4 A CLASS THAT IS FULLY AVAILABLE, THAT IS OURS THAT WE DO 5 LEASE FROM THE PUC, AND THERE'S NO COURSEWORK GOING ON 6 THERE. 7 VCAA MURILLO: THAT COURSE WILL BE SOMETHING I 8 WILL TALK TO MY ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR FOR ESL BECAUSE 9 I THINK THAT'S A VIABLE COURSE AT ANY CAMPUS. I WAS 10 REFERRING TO THE DEDICATED SPACE FOR SOME OF THE MEDICALLY 11 RELATED COURSES THAT MIGHT BE LABORATORY BASED. 12 YOU HAD READ SOME THAT I AM NOT SURE I -- THAT'S 13 WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. BUT NO, AN ESL CLASS FOR HEALTH 14 PROFESSIONALS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE TAKING ALL OVER 15 THE CITY BECAUSE THE HEALTH FIELD IS A SECTOR 16 UNDERDEVELOPMENT THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE INTO. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I KNOW, BUT WHERE I AM 18 TRYING TO GET TO IS I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO ON A TIRADE IN 19 FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR US TO HAVE THAT KIND OF MIND SPACE. 20 IT SHOULD BE JUST LIKE, OH, SOUTHEAST IS MAJORITY ASIAN 21 AMERICAN, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE ESL. MAN, THERE'S TWO BIG 22 HOSPITALS RIGHT IN SOUTHEAST. WE SHOULD PROBABLY PUT ESL 23 THERE. AND I SHOULD BE LIKE, OH, MY GOD, THANK YOU GUYS. 24 THAT'S A REALLY GREAT THING YOU ARE DOING. 25 I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO TALK FOR TEN MINUTES ABOUT MARCH 24, 2011 116 1 THIS WHERE THEN WE ARE SAYING, MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT 2 IT. I WANT THIS TO BE THE AUTOMATIC THOUGHT PROCESS OF 3 PUTTING RELEVANT CLASSES INTO THOSE CAMPUSES. I WANT THAT 4 TO BE A REGULAR THOUGHT PROCESS, NOT LIKE AFTER CHRIS 5 JACKSON GOES ON A TIRADE, MAYBE WE THINK ABOUT IT. I WANT 6 IT TO BE LIKE A REGULAR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT 7 THESE CLASSES ARE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTING EVENLY AMONG 8 ALL COMMUNITIES. 9 VCAA MURILLO: THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 WE DO HAVE A TRUSTEE THAT NEEDS TO LEAVE, SO I 12 WOULD LIKE TO WRAP THIS UP IF WE COULD. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I CAN ADDRESS MY POINTS TO YOU -- 14 VCAA MURILLO: OKAY. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AFTERWARDS. 16 BUT REALLY QUICKLY -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT I THINK 19 THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE WAY THAT THE BOARD HAS BEEN 20 STRUCTURED AND OPERATED SOMETIMES, WE PUNTED A LOT OF 21 THESE THINGS OFF TO THE COLLEGE, AND IT HASN'T BEEN BOARD 22 DRIVEN MANY TIMES. AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A VEHICLE TO 23 ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. THERE'S NO CURRICULUM COMMITTEE. 24 WE HAVE BEEN DEFERRING IT. WE HAVE BEEN DEFERRING THAT 25 QUESTION FOR A DECADE. SOME OF US HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A MARCH 24, 2011 117 1 LONG TIME. IT'S JUST BEEN PUNTED TO YOU. 2 AND WE'VE NEVER REALLY DRIVEN KIND OF THAT 3 CONVERSATION. AND THIS IS KIND OF A MANIFESTATION OF 4 THAT, A LACK OF AN OUTLET ON A COMMITTEE LEVEL TO REALLY 5 DO THAT. 6 IF I HAD MY DRUTHERS, I WOULD ASK THAT WE SET UP 7 A CURRICULUM COMMITTEE OR A COMMITTEE THAT WOULD ADDRESS 8 THESE QUESTIONS AND HAVE IT GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND 9 EVEN HAVE THESE MEETINGS OUT IN SOUTHEAST OR CHINATOWN OR 10 WHEREVER WE THINK APPROPRIATE. 11 SO I THINK THERE IS A STRUCTURAL ISSUE AS WELL 12 IN HEARING THE BOARD FEEDBACK AND DEFERRING A LOT OF THESE 13 QUESTIONS TO THE INSTITUTION IN THE LAST DECADE AND THAT 14 HAS TO CHANGE. 15 VCAA MURILLO: THESE COMMENTS ARE REALLY 16 VALUABLE. WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF DEVELOPING OUR FIRST 17 DRAFT OF THE EDUCATIONAL MASTER PLAN, SO I WILL TAKE THESE 18 COMMENTS AND INCORPORATE THEM ACCORDINGLY. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 20 ANYONE ELSE? 21 OKAY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY? 22 MR. BOEGEL: VERY QUICKLY. I WILL JUST POINT 23 OUT THAT THE MAJOR IN SPEECH COMMUNICATION THAT WE SEE 24 HERE, YOU WILL REMEMBER LAST MONTH WE APPROVED THE 25 MODIFICATION TO THE ASSOCIATE DEGREE FOR THE ASSOCIATE MARCH 24, 2011 118 1 DEGREE FOR TRANSFER. THIS IS OUR FIRST MAJOR THAT FITS 2 INTO THAT PATTERN. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 4 ANYONE ELSE FROM THE AUDIENCE HAVE A COMMENT? 5 OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY "AYE". 6 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NAY. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NAY. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: NO. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THERE WERE TWO NO'S AND 18 ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- I'M SORRY. I FORGOT TO ASK THE 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE HIS -- 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THAT PASSES. IT LOOKS LIKE 22 4-2. 23 THANK YOU. 24 WE ARE NOW ON S5. 25 COUNSEL, COULD YOU -- MARCH 24, 2011 119 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: SO MOVED. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOTION BY TRUSTEE MARKS. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY -- 5 WHO SECONDED IT? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I DID. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 8 COUNSEL, COULD YOU READ THE ITEM. 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 10 S5 IS "ESTABLISHING POLICIES AND APPROVING THE 11 TOTAL EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM OF THE CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 12 FRANCISCO, SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT AS 13 DESCRIBED IN THE 2011-2012 COLLEGE CATALOG, WHICH IS 14 DRAFT." 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WILL PUT OFF WHAT I HAD TO SAY 17 UNTIL ANOTHER TIME. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT I THINK THAT TRUSTEE RIZZO, 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO WANTED TO ASK ABOUT -- 21 TRUSTEE RIZZO: YEAH, I'M WONDERING WHY THIS IS 22 NOT A P RESOLUTION. THE TITLE IS CALLED, "POLICY 23 ESTABLISHING POLICIES." AND THEN IT CITES THE EDUCATION 24 CODE THAT SAYS, "THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SHALL ESTABLISH 25 POLICIES" AND THEN IN THE RESOLVED CLAUSE -- IN THE MARCH 24, 2011 120 1 RESOLVED CLAUSE IT SAYS, "SETS FORTH THAT THIS RESOLUTION 2 SETS FORTH THE GENERAL REGULATIONS AND THE EDUCATIONAL 3 PROGRAM" SO THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS SETTING THE PROGRAM 4 AND THE REGULATIONS. I MEAN THAT SOUNDS LIKE POLICY TO 5 ME, AND I'M WONDERING WHY THIS IS NOT A P RESOLUTION AND 6 WHETHER THIS HAS BEEN MISAGENDIZED AND WHETHER IT SHOULD 7 HAVE TWO READINGS. 8 MR. BOEGEL: IF IT HAS BEEN MISAGENDIZED, IT'S 9 BEEN MISAGENDIZED FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. THIS RESOLUTION 10 HAS BEEN AN S RESOLUTION SINCE BEFORE I BECAME DEAN OF 11 CURRICULUM. SO IT'S QUITE CONCEIVABLE. 12 I BELIEVE THE REASON THAT WE REFER TO THIS AS 13 ESTABLISHING POLICIES IS THAT THE CATALOG IS OUR DOCUMENT 14 THAT EMBODIES EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE UNDER ACADEMIC 15 POLICIES, COLLEGE RULES AND REGULATIONS. THIS IS OUR 16 SOURCE DOCUMENT THAT WE PROVIDE TO STUDENTS THAT DISCUSSES 17 ALL OF THAT. FRANKLY, OUR SEXUAL HARASSMENT POLICY IS 18 PRINTED IN THE COLLEGE CATALOG. 19 SEVERAL OF THESE POLICIES GO THROUGH OTHER 20 VEHICLES FOR BOARD APPROVAL. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE HAD 21 A POLICY FOR WAIVERS FOR LIMITATION OF REMEDIAL 22 COURSEWORK. AND WE HAD A -- I REMEMBER BRINGING THAT 23 BOARD RESOLUTION PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO AT THIS POINT. 24 AGAIN, THE ACADEMIC POLICIES IN TERMS OF WHY 25 THIS IS LIKELY AN S RESOLUTION AND NOT A P RESOLUTION -- MARCH 24, 2011 121 1 SPEAKER UNKNOWN: (INAUDIBLE.) 2 MR. BOEGEL: I'M SORRY. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: EXCUSE ME. CAN WE NOT HAVE 4 DISCUSSION. CAN YOU MEET OUTSIDE. THANK YOU. 5 MR. BOEGEL: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE 6 A VARIETY OF BOARD POLICIES WITHIN THE POLICY MANUAL THAT 7 SAY THINGS LIKE THE COLLEGE SHALL HAVE A WITHDRAWAL POLICY 8 IN ACCORDANCE WITH TITLE 5, SECTION SUCH AND SUCH. AND 9 THEN THE COLLEGE CATALOG IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT 10 THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT WITHDRAWAL POLICY IS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAKES MY 12 POINT THAT THE COLLEGE CATALOG IS THE POLICY. IT SAYS 13 HERE THAT THE CALIFORNIA CODE SAYS, "THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 14 SHALL ESTABLISH THE POLICIES FOR AND APPROVE THE TOTAL 15 EDUCATION PROGRAM" AND THEN THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT "THIS 16 SETS FORTH THE TOTAL EDUCATION PROGRAM," THEREFORE THIS IS 17 A POLICY. THEREFORE, THIS SHOULD BE A P RESOLUTION. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I? 19 TRUSTEE RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE NGO. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I ACTUALLY THINK IT SHOULD BE AN 21 S. THIS IS RATHER -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY AD HOC, BUT IT'S 22 NOT A STANDING ORDER AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S 23 SOMETHING THAT WE ARE OFFERING AS A DRAFT CATALOG FOR THIS 24 COMING YEAR -- 25 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. MARCH 24, 2011 122 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- IN COMPLIANCE WITH OR PURSUANT 2 TO A BOARD POLICY. 3 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT SHOULDN'T -- WE'VE HAD THIS 5 DEBATE ALL NIGHT TONIGHT, RIGHT, ABOUT BOARD POLICIES AND 6 GOVERNANCE AND ROLES AND WHATNOT. SO WHEN YOU SAY, 7 "ESTABLISHING POLICIES" AND IT'S AN S AND IT'S COMING FROM 8 YOU AND NOT FROM US -- 9 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- IT RAISES RED FLAGS OBVIOUSLY. 11 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT 13 THIS -- WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN HERE, AND I SEE THEY LOOK 14 VAGUELY LIKE POLICIES, MAYBE IT COULD BE CRAFTED CLEARER. 15 I'M NOT SURE IF YOU DID IT OR NOT, BUT EXPLAINING THAT 16 THIS IS ACTUALLY A DIRECTIVE TO COMPLY WITH EXISTING BOARD 17 POLICY. 18 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AND IF IN FACT THE BOARD BE 20 BELIEVES THAT SOME OF THESE SPECIFIC ITEMS MAY CONTRADICT 21 WHAT THE BOARD SEES AS OR SHOULD BE POLICY, THEN IT SHOULD 22 BE AMENDED THROUGH THE BOARD POLICY AND NOT NECESSARILY 23 THROUGH THIS S RESOLUTION. 24 SO I DO THINK IT'S NOT FRAMED CORRECTLY, BUT I 25 THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO WITH THE MARCH 24, 2011 123 1 RESOLUTION OR WHOEVER IS TRYING TO DO WITH THE RESOLUTION. 2 BUT MY LARGER POINT IS THAT, PRESIDENT RIZZO AND 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON, IS THAT THIS EXACT ITEM HERE WHERE YOU 4 ARE LAYING OUT COURSES, WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE, THE 5 SCHEDULES, MAINLY -- 6 MR. BOEGEL: THIS IS THE COLLEGE CATALOG. THIS 7 IS NOT THE TIME SCHEDULE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT THIS INCLUDES THE COURSES THAT 9 ARE OFFERED. 10 VCAA MURILLO: YES. 11 MR. BOEGEL: THIS IS A LISTING OF THE CLOSE TO 12 3300 -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 14 MR. BOEGEL: -- COURSES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE 15 ACTIVE AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT THE -- 17 MR. BOEGEL: BUT IT'S NOT -- IT LISTS THE 18 COURSES THAT WE OFFER AND THE CLOSE TO 295 CERTIFICATE 19 DEGREE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: GOT IT. 21 VCAA MURILLO: DESCRIPTIONS. 22 MR. BOEGEL: AND DESCRIPTIONS. AGAIN, IT IS NOT 23 A TIME SCHEDULE. IT IS -- 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL RETRACK THAT -- 25 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. MARCH 24, 2011 124 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- BECAUSE I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY 2 THAT. 3 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IT IS A DESCRIPTION OF THE 5 COURSES WE ARE OFFERING? 6 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE -- I THINK 8 ALL OF US HAD BEEN TO COLLEGE AND WE'VE SEEN THE COLLEGE 9 CATALOGS. IT'S A DOPPLER AT THIS POINT, BUT WE GET A 10 GENERAL SENSE OF WHAT IT IS. 11 MR. BOEGEL: I WOULD HOPE SO. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THIS IS AN AREA WHERE IT SHOULD 13 IN FACT, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO LEAD AND NOT JUST DEFER, IT 14 SHOULD IN FACT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE COURSES AND 15 WHETHER THEY ARE RELEVANT AND WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE 16 OFFERED ANYMORE IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND WHY WE ARE NOT 17 OFFERING OTHER TYPES OF COURSES. THAT DISCUSSION SHOULD 18 BE HAD SOMEWHERE. 19 SO AT LEAST IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENT ABOUT HOW THE 20 BOARD WANTS TO PLAY A ROLE, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT HAS IN 21 THE LAST TEN YEARS TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IN SHAPING THESE 22 TYPE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE COLLEGE IN 23 GENERAL. 24 SO I DISAGREE THAT IT'S A POLICY, BUT I THINK IT 25 COULD BE BETTER DRAFTED. MARCH 24, 2011 125 1 MR. BOEGEL: I STAND ON THE SHOULDER OF MY 2 PREDECESSOR -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 4 MR. BOEGEL: -- IN THE LANGUAGE. I BELIEVE IF 5 YOU LOOK AT THE BOARD RESOLUTION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR 6 APPROVAL OF THE COLLEGE CATALOG. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 8 MR. BOEGEL: WE'VE HAD A VERY SIMILAR LANGUAGE 9 GOING BACK FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: GOT IT. 11 MR. BOEGEL: AND ITS DISPOSITION AS AN S 12 RESOLUTIONS HAS BEEN THERE. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT MEANS 13 THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY CORRECT. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE COME 14 TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, THE PROBLEM I 16 HAVE IS THAT IF THIS IS NOT A POLICY, THEN WE ARE IN 17 VIOLATION OF THE CALIFORNIA EDUCATION CODE BECAUSE THIS 18 SAYS RIGHT HERE, "THAT WE SHALL ESTABLISH POLICIES." 19 AND IF THIS IS NOT THE POLICY, THEN WE HAVE NOT 20 ESTABLISHED THOSE POLICIES. SO THIS IS THE PROBLEM I 21 HAVE. THIS IS EITHER THE POLICY AND IT SHOULD BE A P 22 RESOLUTION OR IT IS NOT THE POLICY AND WE ARE MISSING A 23 POLICY. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THAT WE SHOULD NOT GO MARCH 24, 2011 126 1 FORWARD WITH THIS WITHOUT A POLICY BECAUSE WE WOULD BE IN 2 VIOLATION OF THE CALIFORNIA EDUCATION CODE. RATHER THAN 3 BE IN VIOLATION, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAKE THIS A 4 POLICY, THAT WE REAGENDIZED IT AS A P RESOLUTION AND GET 5 THE REQUIRED TWO READINGS. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I THINK MY PROBLEM THAT 7 IT'S -- JUST REALLY QUICKLY -- IS THAT THE WAY IT IS 8 DRAFTED NOW, IT'S NOT DRAFTED AS A POLICY. I DON'T THINK 9 I MISSPOKE EARLIER ABOUT WHAT THIS IS. 10 MR. BOEGEL: I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. SO -- 12 MR. BOEGEL: AND AGAIN, I STAND BY MY EARLIER 13 STATEMENT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A VARIETY OF BOARD POLICIES 14 WITHIN THE POLICY MANUAL, AND I WILL DEFER TO GENERAL 15 COUNSEL ON -- I KNOW SHE HAS ENCYCLOPEDIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE 16 BOARD POLICY MANUAL. THAT THEN ESTABLISHES OUR BOARD 17 POLICY IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CURRICULAR AREAS, BUT 18 THEN THAT BOARD POLICY SAYS THAT WE WILL HAVE -- THAT THE 19 COLLEGE WILL ESTABLISH POLICIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH 20 RELEVANT SECTIONS OF TITLE 5 OF THE CALIFORNIA CODE OF 21 REGULATIONS AND THEN WHERE WE PUT THAT IS IN OUR COLLEGE 22 CATALOG. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 24 MR. BOEGEL: WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUBLISH A 25 COLLEGE CATALOG EVERY YEAR. MARCH 24, 2011 127 1 TRUSTEE NGO: SO HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS 2 THAT IF IT'S -- I DON'T THINK IT IS AN URGENT RESOLUTION. 3 LET'S GET TO THAT QUESTION LATER. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT 6 BECAUSE OF WHAT PRESIDENT RIZZO JUST CITED, IT IMPLIES 7 THAT THERE IS NO ILLUSION TO A REFERENCE TO ANY EXISTING 8 BOARD POLICY. 9 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THAT MAKES IT APPEAR AS IF A 11 POLICY IS REQUIRED WHICH I KNOW UNDER THE EDUCATION CODE 12 TITLE 5, BUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OR THAT IF IN FACT WE 13 DO HAVE SOME, THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH IN THIS 14 RESOLUTION, THERE IS NO REFERENCE TO IT -- 15 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TO ANY BOARD POLICY. LIKE, FOR 17 EXAMPLE, IS THERE A BOARD POLICY ON NEW COURSES -- 18 MR. BOEGEL: RIGHT. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AND TRANSFER REQUIRESMENTS AND 20 THINGS LIKE THAT. 21 MR. BOEGEL: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I DO THINK IT COULD BE PHRASED A 23 LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS PROCESS IS 24 IN TERMS OF WHETHER YOU NEED AN ADOPTION TONIGHT OR NOT. 25 MR. BOEGEL: FROM JUST A FUNCTIONAL STANDPOINT, MARCH 24, 2011 128 1 SO AT A CERTAIN POINT IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE ARE GOING TO 2 BE SENDING OUR FILE TO THE PRINTER SO THAT WE COULD 3 MAKE -- SO THAT THE PRINTER CAN GENERATE PAPER COPIES OF 4 OUR CATALOG THAT WE TEND TO TRY TO DISTRIBUTE OUT TO OUR 5 COUNSELING DEPARTMENTS BEFORE THE END OF THE SEMESTER. 6 AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY WITH REGARDS TO THAT. 7 BUT AGAIN, THAT HAS TENDED TO BE OUR GOAL TO 8 PUBLISH THE NEXT YEAR'S COLLEGE CATALOG BEFORE THE END OF 9 THE SPRING SEMESTER. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 11 IS THERE COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? 12 MS. SAGINOR: CAN I FILL OUT THE YELLOW CARD 13 LATER? 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. 15 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 16 PRESIDENT. 17 I WOULD BE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED ABOUT THIS NOT 18 BEING APPROVED TONIGHT. AMONG THE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF 19 THIS RESOLUTION HAVE TO DO WITH THE TRANSFER COURSES, THE 20 SB-1440 COURSES. WE MUST HAVE SOME OF THESE IN PLACE FOR 21 FALL. IF THEY CAN'T GO FORWARD AND GET IT INTO THE 22 CATALOG AND GET IT OUT, KNOW THAT THE COURSES ARE GOING TO 23 BE OFFERED SO THAT THEY CAN START PUTTING EVERYTHING IN 24 PLACE, NOT THE COURSES, BUT PUTTING ALL THE THINGS IN 25 PLACE FOR THIS, WE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, IN COMPLIANCE WITH MARCH 24, 2011 129 1 IT. 2 THIS TYPE OF EDUCATIONAL POLICY IS VERY MUCH 3 PART OF THE TEN PLUS ONE. CURRICULUM ISSUES ARE THE FIRST 4 ONE OF THE TEN THAT ARE LISTED. NOT JUST AT CITY COLLEGE, 5 RIGHT, THIS IS NOT PECULIAR TO CITY COLLEGE, BUT AT 6 COMMUNITY COLLEGES ALL OVER THE STATE. 7 IT IS THE FACULTY THAT DO THE MAJOR WORK ON THIS 8 THAT MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THESE THINGS. THERE 9 ARE, YOU KNOW, A FEW ADMINISTRATORS WHO DEAL SPECIFICALLY 10 WITH CURRICULUM ISSUES WHO WORK WITH THAT. ALTHOUGH, 11 BASICALLY THEY ARE SORT OF ENABLING -- THEY ARE SUPPORTING 12 THE WORK OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE FACULTY EXPERTISE IN 13 PUTTING THIS WORK TOGETHER. 14 I WILL BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IF THIS IS NOT 15 PASSED TONIGHT. AND I WOULD BE -- I WOULD WONDER ABOUT 16 THE BOARD'S GETTING INVOLVED IN CURRICULUM ISSUES AND AT 17 THE LEVEL IT IS SOUNDING LIKE SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS 18 WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED IN. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE BOARD IS REQUIRED TO ABIDE 20 BY SECTION 72283 OF THE CALIFORNIA EDUCATION CODE. AND 21 THAT IS A REQUIREMENT AS WELL. AND I DON'T SEE HOW 22 DELAYING A MONTH IS -- TO ABIDE BY SECTION 72283 HOW THAT 23 VIOLATES ANY OTHER -- HOW THAT GETS THE BOARD INVOLVED IN 24 CURRICULA OR VIOLATING ANY OTHER MANDATE FROM THE STATE OF 25 CALIFORNIA. MARCH 24, 2011 130 1 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO -- 3 MR. BOEGEL: CAN I JUST MAKE JUST ONE MORE 4 COMMENT? 5 SO A MONTH AGO -- I'M SORRY. A YEAR AGO, THE 6 BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION APPROVING THIS YEAR'S CATALOG. 7 AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN THIS 8 YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, THERE ARE REALLY VERY SMALL CHANGES. 9 AND IN FACT MANY OF THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE 10 BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF 11 TRUSTEES ALREADY. 12 THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE EDUCATION -- THERE WAS 13 A RESOLUTION THAT WE HAD IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR FOR THE 14 FALL SEMESTERS CURRICULUM COMMITTEE ACTIONS. SEVERAL 15 MINUTES AGO WE APPROVED THE CURRICULUM COMMITTEE ACTIONS 16 THROUGH MARCH 16. LAST MONTH WE HAD A BOARD RESOLUTION 17 APPROVING THE MODIFICATION TO THE ASSOCIATE DEGREE TO 18 SUPPORT THE ASSOCIATE DEGREE FOR TRANSFER. 19 THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT POLICY WITHIN THIS THAT HAS 20 CHANGED HAS BEEN OUR CREDIT BY EXAM POLICY, AND IT'S 21 BEEN -- AND, FRANKLY, IT'S A FAIRLY MINOR TWEAK. THERE'S 22 BEEN SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO SOME OF THE QUALIFICATION 23 CRITERIA FOR EXERCISING KIND OF BY EXAM TO MAKE IT A MORE 24 WORKABLE POLICY FOR STUDENTS THAT WOULD WANT TO USE THIS 25 AND SATISFY PREREQUISITE REQUIREMENTS. SO I APPRECIATE MARCH 24, 2011 131 1 THE CONCERNS THAT VARIOUS BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ABOUT OUR 2 REAPPROVING POLICY. 3 I WILL JUST MENTION THAT MUCH OF THIS POLICY HAS 4 ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. AND HAS ALREADY APPROVED VIA PRIOR 5 BOARD RESOLUTIONS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT -- 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND NOT AGENDIZED AS POLICY. 7 MR. BOEGEL: FAIR ENOUGH. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS CONSTANT 10 DEBATE ABOUT WHAT OUR ROLE IS RELATIVE TO ACADEMIC POLICY. 11 I WILL TELL YOU WHEN THERE ARE COMPLAINTS IN THE SOUTHEAST 12 ABOUT A SEWING CLASS OR COMPUTER CLASSES, THEY ARE NOT 13 CALLING THE ACADEMIC SENATE. THEY ARE CALLING TRUSTEE 14 JACKSON. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT SERVICES WE OFFER 15 HERE. THEY ARE PUBLIC DOLLARS. WE ARE SPENDING PUBLIC 16 DOLLARS ON THESE CLASSES. 17 AND THE FACT THAT WELL, THE ALLEGATION THAT 18 THERE'S NO ROLE FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE IN THESE TYPE OF 19 QUESTIONS IS ABSURD TO ME. IT'S JUST UNDEMOCRATIC TO 20 THINK THAT THERE'S NO ROLE FOR US AT ALL TO QUESTION OR 21 EVEN SAY WE SHOULD HAVE THESE CLASSES HERE OR MAYBE WE 22 SHOULDN'T. 23 I UNDERSTAND TEN PLUS ONE. TEN PLUS ONE IS NOT 24 A MANDATE. IT IS NOT A SOLE POWER FROM THE ACADEMIC 25 SENATE OR BY THE ACADEMIC SENATE ABOUT ACADEMIC POLICY. MARCH 24, 2011 132 1 IT'S A CONSULTATION ROLE. AND WE ARE AGREEING WITH YOU TO 2 PROVIDE THAT CONSULTATION. YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY AND THAT 3 RIGHT. 4 BUT IN THE END, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE 5 PUBLIC DOLLARS IN SOUTHEAST OR IN VISITACION VALLEYOR IN 6 THE MISSION, WHEREVER IT IS, IN CHINATOWN. IF CLASSES 7 AREN'T WORKING OUT, IF THERE'S SOME DEMAND AND A CALL FOR 8 US TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM ABOUT CLASSES OR CURRICULUM, I 9 HAVE NO PROBLEM SAYING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A ROLE IN THAT 10 QUESTION AT ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CALLING YOU. THEY 11 ARE CALLING US. THAT'S THE WHOLE ROLE. THAT'S THE WHOLE 12 POINT OF THIS BOARD IS TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE 13 PUBLIC ABOUT HOW WE DELIVER THESE SERVICES WITH THESE 14 PUBLIC DOLLARS. 15 I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS RESOLUTION. 16 I THINK IT SPEAKS TO A LARGER PROBLEM AS I ADDRESSED 17 BEFORE WHICH IS HOW DO WE ACTUALLY -- HOW DO WE ADDRESS 18 THESE TYPE OF QUESTIONS? 19 AND I THINK THE ATTITUDE THAT WE HAVE NO ROLE IN 20 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED OVER THE LAST 21 DECADE. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT'S BEEN TO THE 22 DETRIMENT OF A LOT OF FOLKS IN MY OPINION. THAT'S AN 23 OPINION. IT'S NOT A FACT. IT'S NOT REFERENCEABLE. 24 BUT THEN YOU HAVE THESE OUTLETS WHERE PEOPLE ARE 25 EXPRESSING NOW A NEED TO HAVE A ROLE IN HOW WE DO MARCH 24, 2011 133 1 CURRICULUM AND HOW WE DO EDUCATIONAL POLICY, AND THAT'S 2 RIGHTFUL I THINK. 3 SO I THINK IT'S NOT -- WE SHOULD PROBABLY CHANGE 4 THE WAY WE PHRASE THE RESOLUTION. BUT IT DOES SPEAK TO A 5 LARGER QUESTION THAT I THINK THAT THE BOARD HAS ADOPTED, 6 UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THE PAST DECADE ABOUT OUR ROLE IN 7 CLASSES AND CURRICULUM AT THIS INSTITUTION. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I THINK SOME OF THE WORDING 10 NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED IN TERMS OF IT. AND I THINK I AGREE 11 WITH WHAT DEAN BOEGEL STATED IN THE SENSE THAT THERE HAS 12 BEEN VERY SMALL CHANGES FROM WHAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED 13 IN YEARS BEFORE. 14 SO I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO 15 THE CATALOG WITH -- EITHER IN TWO DIRECTIONS. WE CAN PULL 16 THIS AND CHANGE SOME LANGUAGE AND COME BACK AS AN S 17 RESOLUTION BECAUSE I THINK THE REFERENCES COULD BE 18 CLARIFIED. 19 OR WE COULD APPROVE IT TONIGHT WITH THE 20 UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE FUTURE WE WILL COME WITH A P 21 RESOLUTION. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THERE ANY SUGGESTIONS? 23 MOTIONS? 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I'M ACTUALLY 25 COMFORTABLE PASSING THIS AS AN S RESOLUTION WITH KNOWLEDGE MARCH 24, 2011 134 1 THAT IN THE FUTURE WE JUST DO IT AS A P RESOLUTION. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: THERE'S NO MOTION. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS MOVED. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I THINK IT WAS MOVED 5 AND SECONDED. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WAS IT? WAS IT NOT? 7 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT WAS. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE MARKS MOVED IT AND I 9 SECONDED IT. 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT WAS MOVED BY TRUSTEE MARKS 11 AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I DON'T THINK THIS WAS 14 ANYTHING INTENTIONAL. I THINK IT WAS JUST A MISTAKE. AND 15 I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO PUT IT P OR CHANGE THE 16 WORDING, I THINK WE CAN WORK THAT OUT OFFLINE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE CAN'T CHANGE THE 18 WORDING AFTER IT'S PASSED THOUGH. 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: FOR NEXT YEAR. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: FOR NEXT YEAR I MEAN. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: CALL FOR THE QUESTION. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. MARCH 24, 2011 135 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M OPPOSING. 7 OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TAKE B3 AND B4 OUT OF 8 ORDER SO THAT IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS. 9 (TRUSTEE MARKS LEAVES THE MEETING.) 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, B3 I ACTUALLY WAS 11 MISTAKEN WHEN I ASKED TO TAKE THAT OFF OF THE CONSENT 12 CALENDAR, SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S BEEN MOVED BY TRUSTEE 16 WONG; SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 17 ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? 18 ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? 19 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. MARCH 24, 2011 136 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 4 OKAY, B3 PASSES. 5 B4, COUNSEL, CAN YOU READ THE TITLE. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: "AUTHORIZATION FOR ONE 7 CONTRACT MODIFICATION TOTALING $394,698 FOR SPECIAL 8 SERVICES CONTRACTS AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS." 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. OKAY. 10 IS THERE A MOTION? 11 TRUSTEE WONG: I MOVE IT. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I SECOND IT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MOVED BY 14 TRUSTEE WONG; SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: DID YOU TAKE -- YOU ARE TAKING 16 THIS OUT OF ORDER, RIGHT? 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE TAKING THESE OUT OF 18 ORDER, YES, YES, YES. 19 OKAY, TRUSTEE WONG, DID YOU WANT TO START? 20 TRUSTEE WONG: ACTUALLY, I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL 21 PHONE CALLS FROM THE CHINESE COMMUNITY LEADERS WHEN THEY 22 FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. AND THERE WERE RUMORS 23 THAT THERE MIGHT BE A DELAY. AND SO THEY SAID FOR ME TO 24 ENSURE THAT THIS RESOLUTION PASSES BECAUSE THEY THEIR 25 CONCERN IS THAT IF IT DOES NOT PASS THAT THERE WOULD BE MARCH 24, 2011 137 1 CONTINUED DELAYS. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S ALREADY BEEN 2 DELAYED ACTUALLY FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS. AND 3 THERE IS A SENSE OF PARANOIA IN THE CHINESE COMMUNITY, 4 WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, IT HAS 5 TAKEN 17 YEARS UP TO THIS POINT TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE 6 NOW. 7 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS DID GO THROUGH 8 THE FIT COMMITTEE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT THE 9 PEOPLE AND THE FIRMS INVOLVED HAVE WIDDLED DOWN THE 10 AMOUNTS THAT THEY BELIEVE SHOULD BE OWING AND PAID TO THEM 11 FROM 800,000 TO ABOUT 384,000. 12 CLEARLY THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, I THINK 13 INITIALLY THE PROPERTY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED JULY 14 OF THIS YEAR, AND IT IS GOING TO BE, HOPEFULLY, COMPLETED 15 APRIL OF NEXT YEAR. WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF 16 ITERATIONS IN TERMS OF REBIDS. I BELIEVE THE FIRMS THAT 17 WERE INVOLVED HAVE HAD APPROXIMATELY 111 MEETINGS SO FAR 18 WITH THE DISTRICT AND OTHERS. AND I JUST URGE THIS BOARD 19 TO MOVE AHEAD, PASS THIS RESOLUTION SO THAT THERE ARE NO 20 FURTHER DELAYS. 21 THE COMMUNITY PROBABLY MY SENSE OF IT IS THAT 22 THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT ARE THE ITERATIONS AND 23 CONCERNS HERE. ALL THEY KNOW IS THAT IT'S BEEN SO MANY 24 YEARS AND ALL THEY KNOW IS THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED THIS 25 WILL CREATE MORE DELAYS WHICH TRANSLATES INTO HUMAN LIVES. MARCH 24, 2011 138 1 IT'S ULTIMATELY BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT ONLY THE 2 INCREASE IN COST, BUT EVERY MONTH THIS PROJECT IS DELAYED, 3 A STUDENT OR STUDENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO MATRICULATE TO MOVE 4 THEIR LIVES FORWARD IN TERMS OF GETTING AN EDUCATION SO 5 THAT THEY COULD HAVE A BETTER LIFE AND GET A JOB. SO 6 THAT'S THE THINKING OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I AM CARRYING 7 THAT MESSAGE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO FOR MYSELF. 8 SO I URGE THIS BOARD TO PASS B4. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I GUESS I WANT TO 11 BE BRIEF. I FEEL THE STRUGGLE. AND I FEEL THE PASSION 12 THAT LAWRENCE HAS HAD SINCE HE'S GOTTEN ON THE BOARD -- 13 TRUSTEE WONG: SEVENTEEN YEARS. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- TO MOVE THIS CAMPUS 15 FORWARD. AND I KNOW THAT LAWRENCE, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDS 16 MYSELF AND TRUSTEE GRIER'S SOMETIMES FRUSTRATION BUT 17 PASSION FOR SERVICES WITHIN THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY. AND 18 I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS 19 PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT 20 COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE SUPPORT THAT CAMPUS AND THAT 21 WE SUPPORT THEIR MISSION IN TERMS OF ACHIEVING AN 22 EDUCATION WITH A FULL-SERVICE CAMPUS THAT IS DESERVING OF 23 THAT COMMUNITY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I HAND THE GAVEL TO YOU -- 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YES. MARCH 24, 2011 139 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY 2 SOMETHING. 3 (PRESIDENT RIZZO HANDS OVER THE GAVEL TO VICE 4 PRESIDENT JACKSON.) 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JOHN, YOU MAY SPEAK. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG, THIS HAS NOTHING 7 TO DO WITH DELAYS. THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTOR 8 EHDD TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A PUBLIC ENTITY. 9 THIS IS A HUGE CHANGE ORDER THAT THEY ARE 10 CLAIMING AFTER THE FACT. THIS IS NOT FOR FUTURE WORK. 11 THIS IS FOR PAST WORK THAT THEY CLAIM THEY DID. 12 NOW AT THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE AND AN EHDD 13 REPRESENTATIVE COULD NOT TELL ME WHAT THIS WORK WAS. I 14 ASKED HIM REPEATEDLY. WHAT IS THIS CHARGE FOR? WHAT IS 15 THIS $384,000 THAT YOU ARE COMING BACK TO ASK THE 16 DISTRICT? WHAT IS IT FOR? 17 THEY COULD NOT TELL ME. THE BEST HE COULD COME 18 UP WITH WAS, WELL, WE HAD TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS. WE HAD 19 TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS. WELL, $384,000 IS A LOT OF 20 MEETINGS I HAVE TO SAY. I'VE NEVER BEEN PAID ANYTHING 21 LIKE THAT FOR A MEETING. 22 THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT EHDD HAS COME BACK 23 TO THIS DISTRICT TO DEMAND MORE MONEY. WE SIGNED A 24 CONTRACT WITH EHDD TO DELIVER A BUILDING, TO DESIGN AND 25 DELIVER A BUILDING. AND THAT INCLUDES ALL THE WORK THAT MARCH 24, 2011 140 1 GOES THROUGH, THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. WE 2 SIGNED THAT CONTRACT. THAT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR EHDD. 3 THEY THINK THEY CAN COME BACK AND FLEECE THIS DISTRICT. 4 WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T. THEY NEED TO BE CALLED OUT ON 5 THIS THAT THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE OF 6 WHAT IT IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR, WHY THEY ARE ASKING FOR 7 THIS MONEY. THEY NEED TO DO THAT. THEY NEED TO COME TO 8 US AND TELL US WHAT THIS IS FOR BEFORE WE GIVE OUT MORE OF 9 THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY. 10 YOU KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE AN EXTRA $384,000 IN 11 THE CHINATOWN PROJECT TO THROW AWAY, TO GIVE TO AN 12 ARCHITECT BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED SOME MORE MONEY 13 OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT THAT THEY SIGNED. WE DO NOT HAVE 14 THIS MONEY. 15 IF THESE KINDS OF COST INCREASES ARE ALLOWED TO 16 CONTINUE, WE WILL BE IN THE POSITION OF CUTTING BACK ON 17 THE CHINATOWN PROJECT, WHICH WE DO NOT WANT TO DO. WE 18 WANT TO BUILD THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS EXACTLY AS THE 19 PROGRAM -- AS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAS INDICATED. 20 AND AT THE FIT COMMITTEE, WE HAVE BEEN DOING AN 21 EXCELLENT JOB OF KEEPING THESE COSTS UNDER CONTROL. WE 22 HAVE SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BROUGHT CONTRACTORS 23 IN. WE HAVE TOLD CONTRACTORS THAT WE WILL NOT PUT UP WITH 24 JUST PADDING YOUR CONTRACT WITH EXTRA STUFF. AND THE 25 REASON IS BECAUSE WE MUST FINISH THIS PROJECT ON BUDGET. MARCH 24, 2011 141 1 AND SO ACTUALLY BEFORE WE VOTE, TRUSTEES, TO 2 AWARD THIS HUGE SUM OF MONEY TO EHDD, THEY NEED TO COME 3 HERE AND EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE ASKING FOR THIS. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: AND, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S THE 5 REASON WHY THEY ARE HERE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: POINT OF ORDER. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I WANTED TO -- IT'S 8 STEVE AND THEN IT'S LAWRENCE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I HAPPEN TO HAVE SAT IN ON THAT 10 FIT COMMITTEE MEETING, EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT ON THE 11 COMMITTEE. AND I DO WANT TO COMMEND PRESIDENT RIZZO FOR 12 HIS DILIGENT WORK AS CHAIR OF FIT. I THINK IT IS VERY 13 IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE MONITORING THE COST AND KEEPING THE 14 COST DOWN. 15 I DON'T LIKE WHAT WE TEND TO DO ON THIS BOARD 16 SOMETIMES, IN THE COMMUNITY EVEN, IS KIND OF PUT UP THIS 17 BOOGIE MAN. AND IT MAKES IT VERY HARD FOR US TO HAVE A 18 REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MERITS OF AN ISSUE. 19 NO ONE ON THIS BOARD OPPOSES THE CONSTRUCTION OR 20 COMPLETION OF THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS. IN FACT I WAS AT THAT 21 FIT COMMITTEE MEETING, AND I COULD TELL YOU THAT -- AND I 22 UNDERSTAND THE MERITS OF THIS RESOLUTION. I GET IT. I 23 GET THAT WE'VE GONE FROM A HIGHER NUMBER TO A LOT LOWER 24 NUMBER. I UNDERSTAND THAT. 25 BUT WE CAN'T EASILY SAY OR FRAME THIS QUESTION MARCH 24, 2011 142 1 AS YOU ARE EITHER OPPOSED OR IN SUPPORT OF THE CAMPUS JUST 2 BECAUSE WE ARE DEMANDING THAT THESE CONTRACTORS JUSTIFY 3 HOW MUCH WE ARE PAYING AND WHY BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, THAT 4 SAME STUDENT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE IN CHINATOWN IS 5 PAYING FOR THAT FUND, THOSE FUNDS THAT WE'RE GIVING TO THE 6 CONTRACTOR. SO I DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE FRAME THINGS 7 SOMETIMES ABOUT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN EXPLOITED IN 8 SOME WAYS. 9 AND IN FACT PART OF THE REASON WHY THAT WE HAVE 10 THESE COSTS AND PART OF THE REASON WHY THERE'S BEEN DELAYS 11 IS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS IN ADMINISTRATION, NOT WITH 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, BUT THERE'S BEEN PROBLEMS IN HOW WE'VE 13 MANAGED THIS PROJECT. AND SOME OF US HAVE BEEN VERY 14 DEFENSIVE OF THOSE ADMINISTRATORS IN THIS COLLEGE WHEN 15 THEY'VE DONE THAT. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AND -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THAT IS A REAL ISSUE. AND 18 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM. 19 SO WE HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT REALLY THE 20 DELAYS ARE AND WHY THEY ARE THERE. IT'S NOT JUST THAT 21 THERE'S BEEN SOME MIX UP. IT'S THAT THERE'S BEEN POOR 22 OVERSIGHT BY THIS BOARD IN SOME PARTS OF THIS COLLEGE IN 23 HOW WE MANAGE A PROJECT. 24 AND IN THAT VEIN, PRESIDENT RIZZO, HAS BEEN 25 QUESTIONING THOSE EXPENSES. AND I THINK FAIRLY. MARCH 24, 2011 143 1 NOW I WILL BE VOTING FOR THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE 2 I THINK WE'VE GOT A REASONABLE -- WE'VE GOTTEN SOME 3 PROGRESS ON THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR. BUT I 4 WILL TELL YOU THIS. I AM VERY SKEPTICAL. I WILL BE VERY 5 SKEPTICAL OF ANY FUTURE REQUEST FOR A CONTRACT 6 MODIFICATION BECAUSE PRESIDENT RIZZO IS CORRECT. WE 7 SIGNED A CONTRACT. IT CONTEMPLATED VARIOUS RISKS. THAT'S 8 WHAT CONTRACTS ARE FOR, OKAY, AND EACH PARTY IS BOUND BY 9 THAT RISK. BOUND BY WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE COURSE OF THE 10 CONTRACT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CONTRACTS TO MANAGE RISK. 11 AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO US EVERY 12 SINGLE TIME AND IN FACT, THIS HAS HAPPENED AT THE FIT 13 COMMITTEE, AND IN FACT ILLUDE, NOT THREATEN, BUT ILLUDE TO 14 THE POSSIBILITY THAT THEY WILL SHUT DOWN THE PROJECT IF 15 THEY DON'T GET THEIR MONEY, THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S A 16 REAL PROBLEM. AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT TONE OR THAT KIND 17 OF TREATMENT FROM CONTRACTORS TO A PUBLIC INSTITUTION THAT 18 WILL HOLD THE CHINATOWN PROJECT RANSOM ESSENTIALLY, AS 19 HOSTAGE, TO GET THEIR MONEY. THEY CANNOT DO THAT. 20 SO LET'S JUST NOT JUMP ON A BANDWAGON AND SAY, 21 THIS IS A ONE RIGHT WAY OR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. TRUSTEE 22 RIZZO IS RIGHT IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE SPENDING OUR 23 TAXPAYER DOLLARS CORRECTLY. I THINK WE ARE IN THIS CASE. 24 BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WE'RE VERY SKEPTICAL OF ANY CONTRACT 25 MODIFICATION GOING FORWARD. MARCH 24, 2011 144 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: LAWRENCE. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: WE HAVE THE CONTRACTORS HERE, AND 3 I AM HOPING THEY CAN RESPOND TO PRESIDENT RIZZO'S 4 CONCERNS. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR 6 WHAT THESE $300,000 MEETINGS WERE ALL ABOUT. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND IF THERE'S ANYONE 8 ELSE THAT WANTS TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FEEL FREE 9 TO FILL OUT THE YELLOW CARD. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, I THINK BECAUSE WE WANT TO 11 MOVE THIS ALONG, IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO MAKE 12 COMMENTS, FILL OUT THE YELLOW CARDS. 13 MS. DEVLIN: PRESIDENT RIZZO, MEMBERS OF THE 14 BOARD OF TRUSTEES, I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE. MY NAME IS 15 JENNIFER DEVLIN. I AM PRINCIPLE WITH EHDD ARCHITECTURE. 16 WE ARE THE CONSULTANTS THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO AS 17 CONTRACTORS. WE ARE THE ARCHITECTS WITH BARCELONA AND 18 JANG FOR THE CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS. 19 OUR REQUEST IS NOT FOR WORK THAT WAS DONE IN THE 20 PAST. IT IS TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. OUR 21 CONTRACT ESSENTIALLY HAS TWO COMPLETION DATES. ONE IS 22 MARCH OF THIS MONTH OF 2011 AND JULY OF 2011 FOR 23 SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AND FINAL COMPLETION OF THE 24 PROJECT. 25 AS WE KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIAL DELAYS MARCH 24, 2011 145 1 UNFORESEEN TO THE DESIGN TEAM AS A RESULT OF REBIDDING, 2 WHICH WAS KIND OF A COLLEGE MANDATED PROCEDURE, AS A 3 RESULT OF DSA COMPLICATIONS, AND EXTENDED TIME AND THAT 4 HAS CAUSED A DELAY IN CONSTRUCTION THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS 5 OUR CONTRACT ENDS IN JULY, AND WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION 6 COMPLETING IN MAY 2012 -- APRIL, MAY OF 2012. 7 WHAT YOU WILL BE PAYING FOR IS OUR CONTINUED 8 SERVICE FOR THE DISTRICT TO CONTINUE TO COMPLETE THE 9 PROJECT AS IT MOVES FORWARD. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MAY I? 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JOHN. 12 ANYONE ELSE? 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DOES NOT THE CONTRACT REQUIRE 14 THAT YOU DELIVER THE PROJECT? 15 MS. DEVLIN: IT DOES. AND IT STIPULATES A 16 PERIOD OF TIME WITHIN WHICH THAT WILL HAPPEN. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HAVE WE GONE BEYOND THAT 18 PERIOD OF TIME? 19 MS. DEVLIN: WE ARE GOING BEYOND IT IN MARCH AND 20 WE WILL GO BEYOND IT IN JULY. AND WE NOTIFIED THE COLLEGE 21 OF THIS POTENTIAL DELAY ALMOST A YEAR AGO WHEN THE 22 REBIDDING AFFECTED THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION ON SCHEDULE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE NOT BEYOND THE TIME 24 FRAME OF THE PROJECT. 25 MS. DEVLIN: NO, WE ARE COMING UP ON A DEADLINE MARCH 24, 2011 146 1 THIS MONTH AND ANOTHER DEADLINE IN JULY. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT IS THE DEADLINE THIS 3 MONTH? 4 MS. DEVLIN: SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OF? 6 MS. DEVLIN: OF CONSTRUCTION. AND WE ARE NOT 7 SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. THAT IS INTENDED FROM A YEAR FROM 8 NOW. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WHY DOES THAT ENTITLE YOU 10 TO $300,000? 11 MS. DEVLIN: BECAUSE WELL, OUR SERVICES -- I'M 12 ASSUMING YOU WOULD LIKE OUR SERVICES TO CONTINUE UNTIL THE 13 PROJECT IS COMPLETE. BUT WE ARE PROVIDING A VALUE TO THE 14 COLLEGE IN HELPING THE CONTRACTOR MOVE THE PROJECT 15 FORWARD. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT 17 WE ARE GETTING FOR THAT $380,000. YOU ARE BASICALLY 18 SAYING, WE WILL STOP WORK ON THE PROJECT. 19 MS. DEVLIN: I HAVEN'T SAID THAT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT ARE YOU SAYING THEN? 21 MS. DEVLIN: I'M SAYING THAT OUR CONTRACT DOES 22 END. I DIDN'T SAY, WE WOULD STOP. OUR FIRM INTEREST IS 23 IN MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD. AND WE FEEL THAT WE 24 ARE -- IT IS IN OUR RIGHT TO BE COMPENSATED FOR OUR 25 CONTRACT. MARCH 24, 2011 147 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS 2 ANOTHER MINUTE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE NOT IN 3 AGREEANCE WITH THIS. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING. 5 YOU CAME -- THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE COME BACK. 6 THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE COME BACK TO US TO ASK FOR 7 MORE MONEY. 8 MS. DEVLIN: YES. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE CONTRACT DOESN'T END NOW. 10 THE CONTRACT GOES TO THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. SO I 11 THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SETTLE THIS. I ACTUALLY ASKED 12 THIS AT THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE. I ASKED THAT BEFORE 13 THIS MEETING WE GET AN OPINION FROM OUR COUNSEL, OUR 14 ATTORNEYS ON WHAT THE CONTRACT PROVIDES. AND SO I AM 15 GOING TO ASK AGAIN THAT WE ASK FOR AN OPINION ON, AND WE 16 CAN TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE, BUT I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO 17 WHAT THE CONTRACT IS AND PERHAPS WE CAN REVIEW THE 18 CONTRACT ITSELF AT THE FIT COMMITTEE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CHANCELLOR. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: FOR ME, THE CRUX OF THIS IS 21 THAT FOR AT LEAST NINE MONTHS MAYBE CLOSE TO A YEAR, THE 22 ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN NOTIFIED BY THIS FIRM THAT THERE'S 23 A PROBLEM. AND THE PROBLEM WAS GENERATED WHEN WE CLOSED 24 DOWN AND HAD TO SEND ALL OUR DOCUMENTS BACK TO SACRAMENTO, 25 AND THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL DELAY IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT. MARCH 24, 2011 148 1 SO BASED UPON THAT, THERE WAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT 2 THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE ADMINISTRATION, INCLUDING 3 MYSELF. I HAVE REQUESTED THAT THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, 4 PETER GOLDSTEIN, AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANTS SWINERTON, TO 5 LOOK AT THIS VERY, VERY CAREFULLY AND TO GIVE A 6 RECOMMENDATION. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO TO NEGOTIATE THE 7 PRICE TO A POINT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION COULD BE OKAY 8 WITH. 9 I AM 100 PERCENT OKAY WITH THE PRICE THAT WE 10 HAVE COME TO. IT HAS BEEN A PRODUCT OF A LOT OF BACK AND 11 FORTH COMMUNICATION AND NEGOTIATION. I THINK BASICALLY 12 IT'S A SITUATION WHERE THE COLLEGE HAS ASKED US TO BE VERY 13 DILIGENT, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY DILIGENT. 14 THE FIT COMMITTEE HAS BEEN AN OUTSTANDING 15 COMMITTEE. IT'S BEEN EXCELLENT. IT'S SAVED US MILLIONS 16 OF DOLLARS SO FAR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. AND 17 PROBABLY WILL SAVE MILLIONS MORE IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE. 18 BUT I DON'T THINK THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH 19 EITHER THE FIT COMMITTEE FOR THAT MATTER, NOR DO I WANT TO 20 GET TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHINATOWN PROJECT OVERALL 21 BECAUSE WE ARE ALL DEDICATED TO COMPLETING IT. 22 BUT IT DOES SAY WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD IS 23 WILLING TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF ADMINISTRATION 24 AFTER CAREFUL ANALYSIS AND LOOKING AT THIS SITUATION 25 BECAUSE IT WAS NOT DONE CAUSALLY. IT WAS DONE OVER A MARCH 24, 2011 149 1 NUMBER OF MONTHS. WE ALSO WENT TO THE CONSULTANT FIRM 2 SWINERTON THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT ON FOR THIS. WE SAT DOWN 3 WITH THEM. WE'VE GONE OVER THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND 4 THIS IS WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE A FAIR PRICE GOING FORWARD 5 IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. SO IT IS A 6 RECOMMENDATION, A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION FROM THE 7 ADMINISTRATION AND I PRAY THAT THE BOARD WILL SUPPORT THIS 8 IN TERMS OF MOVING IT FORWARD BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO 9 DELAY THE SITUATION FURTHER. AND PERHAPS IF WE ARE DOING 10 SOMETHING WRONG AS AN ADMINISTRATION, WE SHOULD BE DEALT 11 WITH. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND WE HAVE TWO STUDENT 13 SPEAKERS WHO ARE FILLING OUT THEIR CARDS RIGHT NOW. 14 IS THERE ANY COMMENT FROM THE BOARD BEFORE THE 15 STUDENTS SPEAK? 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I WAS JUST SAY -- 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JOHN. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- BECAUSE EHDD IS NOW 19 THREATENED TO STOP WORK ON THIS, I WILL VOTE IN FAVOR JUST 20 TO MOVE THIS ALONG TO PREVENT ANY KIND OF THREAT TO THE 21 SCHEDULE. HOWEVER, THIS IS IMPACTING THE BUDGET OF THIS 22 PROJECT. AND I THINK EHDD'S REFUSAL AT THE FIT COMMITTEE 23 TO DEFINE WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, THEIR REFUSAL TO 24 PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION IS REPREHENSIBLE. AND IF EHDD DOES 25 NOT WANT TO MEET WITH TRUSTEES ON THIS, I THINK THAT'S IN MARCH 24, 2011 150 1 DERELICTION OF THEIR DUTIES. AND I ALSO THINK THAT IF 2 THEY WERE TO MOVE ON THEIR THREAT TO DELAY THIS PROJECT, 3 THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR OWN CONTRACT AND 4 SUBJECT TO LEGAL ACTION BY THIS DISTRICT. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ALL RIGHT. 6 PHUONG NGUYEN. AND IF I BUTCHERED YOUR NAME, I 7 AM SO SORRY. 8 MS. NGUYEN: GOOD EVENING, CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, 9 AND THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. MY NAME IS PHUONG. I AM 10 SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ASIAN STUDENTS ON CAMPUS. 11 AND I WAS ONE OF THE STUDENTS WHO WENT TO SO 12 MANY BOARD MEETINGS AND WHO FOUGHT SO HARD FOR THE 13 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS 14 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS WOULD BE BUILT. 15 AND IF YOU DELAY THIS PROJECT, THAT MEANS YOU 16 WILL DELAY THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS TO 17 HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO EDUCATION. AND AT THE NEWS 18 CONFERENCE ON JANUARY 12, YOU DID PROMISE THAT THE 19 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS WOULD BE DONE IN MAY 2012. 20 SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO DELAY 21 EDUCATION ANY LONGER BECAUSE WE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN 22 DREAMING AND WAITING FOR THIS CAMPUS FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS 23 ALREADY. THANK YOU. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SUKI WONG. 25 MS. WONG: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MARCH 24, 2011 151 1 SUKI. I AM FROM THE ASSOCIATED STUDENT COUNCIL AND THE 2 CCSF ADMINISTRATION. 3 AND AS A STUDENT, I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT 4 EDUCATION IS A RIGHT. AND AT CCSF WE CAN BETTER SERVE THE 5 STUDENTS BY PROVIDING CLASSES TO THE STUDENTS AND PEOPLE 6 THAT WANT ACCESSIBILITY TO EDUCATION. THEREFORE, WE 7 SHOULD NOT DELAY THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS PROJECT ANY LONGER. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 9 ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR 10 FROM THE PUBLIC? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: STEVE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I JUST WANT -- FIRST OF ALL, 14 THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING. I'M ALWAYS DELIGHTED TO HEAR FROM 15 STUDENTS. I HOPE EHDD HEARD THEM AND OTHER CONSULTANTS OR 16 CONTRACTORS AND CONSULTANTS BECAUSE THE PROJECT ISN'T IN 17 THREAT. THERE HAS BEEN NO THREAT AT ALL TO DELAY THE 18 PROJECT CERTAINLY NOT FROM THIS BOARD. THERE'S BEEN 19 ILLUSIONS TO IT BY OTHER PEOPLE, BUT NOT BY THIS BOARD. 20 SO I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR VOICES 21 HEARD, NOT JUST TO PEOPLE YOU SEE IN POWER HERE, BUT 22 EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THIS CITY, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HOLD 23 TRUE TO THEIR PROMISE AS WELL. 24 THE BOARD'S COMMITTED TO GETTING THIS PROJECT 25 DOWN, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THAT'S NOT DEBATABLE ANYMORE. MARCH 24, 2011 152 1 THE ISSUE IS WHETHER WE DO IT IN A WAY -- IN A SMART WAY 2 IN A PRINCIPLED WAY, AND I THINK IN A FAIR WAY TO EVERYONE 3 INVOLVED, INCLUDING YOU, INCLUDING THE STUDENTS. 4 WHEN WE DON'T HAVE MONEY OR WE SPEND EXTRA MONEY 5 FROM ANOTHER PROJECT INTO THE CHINATOWN PROJECT, WHICH THE 6 BOARD HAS INDICATED THAT IT WANTS TO DO, IT MEANS THAT 7 THERE'S MONEY COMING FROM SOME OTHER PROJECT, LIKE THIS 8 BUILDING YOU ARE SITTING IN, FOR EXAMPLE. NOT THIS ONE 9 EXACTLY, BUT ANOTHER BUILDING OUT THERE THAT COULD BE ON 10 CAMPUS OR BE SOMEWHERE ELSE COULD USE THAT SAME MONEY, SO 11 IT'S NOT -- 12 THESE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD IS 13 ASKING, AND IT'S GOOD THAT YOU'RE HERE TO ADVOCATE ON 14 BEHALF OF YOUR OWN INTEREST AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE 15 COMMUNITY, SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR DOING THAT. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ALL RIGHT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I'M ALMOST DONE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I'M SORRY. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY I AM LONG WINDED. I 20 APOLOGIZE. 21 I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO ENDORSE OR ADOPT 22 THIS RESOLUTION. I WOULD URGE EHDD TO BE MINDFUL OF IF 23 AND WHEN THEY PLAN ON COMING BACK FOR ASKING FOR MORE 24 MONEY AND NOT JUST FROM THE BOARD, BUT ALSO FROM THESE 25 STUDENTS WHO HAVE JUST SPOKEN TO THIS BOARD. MARCH 24, 2011 153 1 AND AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY CLEARLY THIS IS NOT 2 DEBATABLE ANYMORE. THE BOARD IS IN FAVOR OF COMPLETING 3 THIS PROJECT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO I WANT TO GO TO 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY FANG. AND THEN I ACTUALLY WANT TO 6 TAKE THIS TO A VOTE BECAUSE I THINK -- 7 I LOVE YOU MAN, BUT IT'S LIKE ALMOST 10:30 SO 8 CAN WE JUST HAVE THE STUDENT TRUSTEE SPEAK. AND I THINK 9 WE HAVE COME ALMOST TO CONSENSUS ALMOST, SO LET'S JUST 10 HAVE THIS LAST COMMENT AND THEN LET'S JUST HAVE A VOTE. 11 ED: IT'S THE SHORTEST SPEECH I'VE EVER GIVEN. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU, ED. 13 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND TRUSTEE 14 WONG'S STATEMENT ON THE CAMPUSES. AND I ACTUALLY AGREE 15 WITH TRUSTEE NGO'S POSITION AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK IT 16 COMPLEMENTS EACH OTHER. 17 THE FACT THAT THIS CAMPUS NEEDS TO BE DONE AND 18 IT'S AN OVERWHELMING WILL FROM THE STUDENTS THAT THEY WANT 19 THIS TO HAPPEN IS VALIDATED BY THIS BOARD. AND I ALSO 20 DEFINITELY AGREE WITH TRUSTEE NGO'S STATEMENT ON THAT WE 21 NEED MORE INFORMATION. WE NEED TO KNOW MORE OF WHAT'S 22 GOING ON BECAUSE I PARTICIPATE IN THE FIT FOR THE REASON 23 OF MAKING SURE CHINATOWN HAPPENS. AND WE NEED TO KNOW HOW 24 OUR DOLLARS ARE SPENT AND WHY IS THIS FASHION POSSIBLE. 25 AND FOR THAT, I ALSO WILL VOTE "YES" ON THIS MARCH 24, 2011 154 1 RESOLUTION. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY, SO SEEING ALL 3 CONVERSATION EXHAUSTED, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON 6 THE BOARD IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR 7 VOTE BY SAYING "AYE". 8 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 16 ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 (VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON HANDS THE GAVEL BACK TO 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO.) 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE ARE NOW AT B1. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE B1. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 24 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: B1, IS "AUTHORIZING THE USE MARCH 24, 2011 155 1 OF A PORTION OF THE COLLEGE'S SALES TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT 2 CCSF'S FACULTY DIVERSITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, OTHERWISE 3 KNOWN AS GROW YOUR OWN." 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I ASKED TO TAKE THIS OFF 5 CONSENT FOR TWO QUESTIONS. I THINK THE RESOLUTION COULD 6 BE OR NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. 7 (TRUSTEE WONG LEAVES THE MEETING.) 8 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT 10 YEAR. IT JUST SAYS, "NOT TO EXCEED $36,000 PER YEAR," BUT 11 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PER YEAR INTO PERPETUITY OR JUST THE 12 TWO YEARS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN THE BACKGROUND SECTION? 13 SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO SPECIFY THAT. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT WOULD BE -- I'M SORRY 15 ABOUT THAT. THAT WOULD BE JUST FOR THE TWO YEARS 16 SPECIFIED. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE TWO YEARS, CAN WE ADD THAT 18 TO THE RESOLUTION? 19 WOULD SOMEONE MOVE TO ADD THAT? 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MODIFY. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THEN IT'S 2011-2012, AND 22 2012-2013. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. MARCH 24, 2011 156 1 MS. WILLIAMS: IT'S ALSO FOR THE -- 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 3 MS. WILLIAMS: SORRY. HI, MY NAME IS JESSICA 4 WILLIAMS, AND I'M THE COORDINATOR OF THE FACULTY DIVERSITY 5 INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AND GROW YOUR OWN. I WAS NOMINATED BY 6 PROFESSOR NANCE TO TAKE ON THE POSITION AS HE IS GOING 7 INTO RETIREMENT. 8 IT ALSO INCLUDES THIS SEMESTER BY THE WAY. 9 OKAY, IT INCLUDES -- SINCE WE ARE PART OF FISCAL YEAR 10 2010-2011, THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE LAST BOARD 11 RESOLUTION, BUT THERE WAS EXTRA MONEY IN OUR SCHOLARSHIP 12 FUNDS. WE WERE ABLE TO PAY PEOPLE OUT LAST SEMESTER, BUT 13 WE DON'T EVEN -- SO IT ALSO NEEDS TO INCLUDE THIS SECOND 14 HALF OF FISCAL YEAR 2010-2011. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE ARE ALLOCATING HALF OF 16 $36,000 FOR THIS YEAR. 17 MS. WILLIAMS: THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN THE NEXT 18 TWO YEARS. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. SO CAN WE ADD A 20 LINE THAT SAYS 18,000 FOR -- 21 MS. WILLIAMS: AND THE 18,000 ISN'T GOING TO BE 22 SPENT, BUT -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: 18,000 FOR 2010-2011. 24 MS. WILLIAMS: RIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THEN 2011-2012 AND THEN MARCH 24, 2011 157 1 2012-2013. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THAT AMENDMENT IS MOVED 6 BY TRUSTEE NGO AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 7 ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? 8 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT? 9 OKAY, ALL THOSE -- 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN 15 ANSWER THIS QUESTION BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY NEW, RIGHT? 16 MS. WILLIAMS: IT'S MY SECOND SEMESTER IN THE 17 POSITION. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. THE LAST RESOLVED SAYS 19 THAT THERE'S AUTHORIZATION FOR A PORTION OF THE TAX 20 REVENUE NOT TO EXCEED 36,000 TO SUPPORT FACULTY DIVERSITY 21 INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS FOR GROW YOU OWN PROGRAM. 22 SO WHEN -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. POINT OF INFORMATION. 24 IT'S NOT THE LAST RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT THE LAST RESOLVED. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH. MARCH 24, 2011 158 1 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S THE FIRST RESOLVED. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, SECOND TO THE LAST. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: BUT IT DEALS WITH MY QUESTION 5 AND MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE RESULTS OF THE GROW 6 YOUR OWN PROGRAM. WHAT HAS BEEN THE RESULTS OF IT IN 7 TERMS OF A BENEFIT TO THE COLLEGE? 8 MS. DEVLIN: THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'M GLAD 9 YOU BROUGHT THAT UP ACTUALLY. THIS RESOLUTION IS ALSO 10 KIND OF FRUIT OF AN ANALYSIS OF KIND OF LOOKING BACK AND 11 KIND OF SEEING WHAT HAD BEEN THE POSITIVES, WHAT HAD BEEN 12 SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE WE COULD REALLY IMPROVE 13 THROUGHOUT GROW YOUR OWN. 14 ACTUALLY I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT MY INFORMATION, 15 BUT I HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT. BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL -- I 16 SHOULD HAVE THIS ON ME, BUT THERE ARE OFF THE TOP OF MY 17 HEAD I CAN THINK OF -- ACTUALLY, NO, YOU KNOW WHAT I 18 REMEMBER THIS. THERE'S NINE PART TIME BETWEEN PART TIME 19 AND FULL-TIME PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF GROW YOUR OWN THAT 20 ARE CURRENTLY WORKING AT THE COLLEGE -- 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, OKAY. 22 MS. DEVLIN: -- IN SOME CAPACITY OR ANOTHER. I 23 DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF FULL TIME AND PART TIME. I 24 THINK IT'S THREE FULL TIME AND SIX PART TIME IF I'M NOT 25 MISTAKEN. MARCH 24, 2011 159 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 2 MS. DEVLIN: BUT WE DO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, 3 THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE THAT KIND OF JOINED. 4 AND ANOTHER THING I SHOULD SAY IS THAT RIGHT NOW 5 THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL FINISHING THEIR 6 EDUCATION. AND THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE 7 MAYBE COMING BACK NEXT SEMESTER BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO 8 BE GOING INTO A MASTER'S DEGREE AND MAYBE ONE MORE. SO WE 9 WOULD SAY THERE'S NINE AND SEVEN. 10 BUT THERE HAVE BEEN MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE JOINED 11 GROW YOUR OWN THAT DECIDED SOME WAY ALONG THEIR PATH THAT 12 THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THEIR CAREER GOALS WHICH I THINK IS 13 PRETTY UNDERSTANDABLE. AND PROBABLY NONE OF THE TRUSTEES 14 WHEN THEY WERE 28 YEARS OLD WERE POSITIVE WHAT THEY WANTED 15 TO DO FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. 16 ONE THING THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED INTO THIS 17 RESOLUTION IS TO FUND THE FACULTY DIVERSITY INTERNSHIP 18 PROGRAM WHICH HAS BEEN FUNDED FROM THE 90'S UP UNTIL VERY 19 RECENTLY BECAUSE THAT PROGRAM REALLY TARGETS THOSE 20 STUDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN MASTER'S PROGRAMS. 21 AND IN FACT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THAT NUMBER OF 22 THE NINE THAT DID BECOME FULL-TIME FACULTY, A MUCH LARGER 23 PERCENTAGE OF THOSE THAN THE AGGREGATE WERE ALREADY EITHER 24 IN MASTER'S PROGRAMS OR THEY WERE APPLYING TO THEIR 25 MASTER'S WHEN THEY APPLIED THE GYO. SO THOSE WHO APPLIED MARCH 24, 2011 160 1 WHEN THEY WERE FINISHING THEIR SOPHOMORE YEAR AND THEIR 2 JUNIOR YEAR WERE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO COME BACK TO CITY 3 COLLEGE THAN THOSE WHO WERE SENIORS APPLYING TO MASTER'S 4 PROGRAMS OR PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THEIR FIRST YEAR OF THEIR 5 MASTERS. 6 SO BRINGING BACK THE FACULTY DIVERSITY 7 INTERNSHIP PROGRAM I THINK IS A WIN/WIN FOR THE DISTRICT 8 BECAUSE NOT JUST OUR STUDENTS ABLE TO -- WERE ABLE TO 9 TARGET THOSE STUDENTS WHO HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR CAREER 10 DECISIONS, BUT FURTHERMORE IT IS ALSO A COST SAVINGS TO 11 THE COLLEGE AS WELL. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE TO MY 13 QUESTION. WHAT I WILL ASK THROUGH PRESIDENT RIZZO IS THAT 14 THE REFERENCES YOU MADE, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN WHO AND 15 WHAT AND WHERE THESE PEOPLE -- 16 MS. WILLIAMS: SURE. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- ARE BECAUSE EACH YEAR WE GET 18 INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY 19 CONCRETE RESULTS. 20 BUT WHAT YOU ARE OFFERING IS WHAT I'M ASKING 21 FOR, THE DATA THAT TELLS ME. 22 MS. WILLIAMS: YEAH. I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT. 24 MS. WILLIAMS: YEAH, I CAN SEND THAT -- 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. MARCH 24, 2011 161 1 MS. WILLIAMS: -- THE FIRST WEEK THAT WE ARE 2 BACK. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: THAT'S GREAT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE NGO. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL JUST MOVE THE AMENDMENT SO 6 WE CAN GET TO THE MAIN MOTION. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE AMENDMENT WAS MOVED. IT 8 WAS SECONDED. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: IT WASN'T VOTED ON. I MEAN IT 10 WASN'T VOTED ON. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WASN'T VOTED ON, RIGHT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN WE JUST VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT 13 AND GET TO THE MAIN RESOLUTION. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND THEN I WILL HAVE MY 16 QUESTION THEN. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, YOU ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE 18 TO SAY THAT BECAUSE -- 19 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, SORRY. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THE 21 AMENDMENT? 22 COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THE AMENDMENT? 23 ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. MARCH 24, 2011 162 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 8 OKAY. THE AMENDMENT -- IT'S A CLARIFYING 9 AMENDMENT. IT'S NOT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE. 10 SO, TRUSTEE NGO, YOU HAVE A -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. SO MAYBE -- I DON'T KNOW IF 12 YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT WHY CAN 13 WE -- I'VE READ HERE THAT ITS SALES TAX USES ARE ONLY FOR 14 CURRENT STUDENTS OR EMPLOYEES. I WANT TO GET SOME 15 ELABORATION ON THAT LIKE WHY THAT IS. 16 MS. WILLIAMS: YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO 17 ELABORATE ON THAT? 18 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 19 MS. WILLIAMS: THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT 20 HAS TO DO WITH REGULATIONS. 21 CFO BILMONT: JOHN BILMONT, CHIEF FINANCIAL 22 OFFICER. 23 WHEN THE GROW YOUR OWN PROGRAM CAME INTO 24 EXISTENCE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL 25 SCHOLARSHIP MONEY AVAILABLE AS BASE FUNDING. BUT FOR THE MARCH 24, 2011 163 1 NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED, THE DISTRICT NEEDED 2 ADDITION REVENUE SOURCES. 3 IDEALLY, THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE FUNDED FULLY 4 THROUGH SCHOLARSHIP ALLOCATIONS OR OTHER DESIGNATED 5 SOURCES. 6 IN THIS CASE THE INSTITUTION CHOSE TO USE SALES 7 TAX REVENUE. WE WENT BACK TO THE BALLOT MEASURE. WE'RE 8 REALLY ESSENTIALLY USING A NEGATIVE ASSURANCE IN TERMS OF 9 IDENTIFYING A REVENUE STREAM AND ALLOCATING IT FOR THIS 10 PURPOSE BECAUSE SCHOLARSHIPS SHOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH A 11 SCHOLARSHIP FUND. 12 THE BOARD -- WE LOOKED AT THE REGS AND WE DID 13 STUDY THIS. WE BELIEVE THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO 14 APPROVE THIS ALLOCATION. AND THE BALLOT MEASURE FOR SALES 15 TAX DOES NOT PROHIBIT IT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: WHY IS THAT? 17 CFO BILMONT: WHY IS WHAT? 18 TRUSTEE NGO: WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN USE 19 SCHOLARSHIPS WITH SALES TAX REVENUE? 20 CFO BILMONT: AS I SAID EARLIER, IDEALLY 21 SCHOLARSHIP FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN THEIR TOTALITY TO 22 TAKE CARE OF ALL THE FUNDING REQUIRED UNDER THIS. 23 HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT GROW YOUR OWN SCHOLARSHIP 24 FUNDS. THERE'S SOME. THEY DO A FUND-RAISING EFFORT EVERY 25 YEAR, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THE COSTS OF THIS MARCH 24, 2011 164 1 PROGRAM. AND THEREFORE, THE INSTITUTION HAS ALLOCATED 2 SALES TAX REVENUE TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. SO CAN YOU -- 4 CFO BILMONT: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M JUST A LITTLE SLOW ON THIS. 6 CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE TO FUND IT THROUGH SALES TAX 7 REVENUE AS OPPOSED TO GENERAL FUND MONEY. 8 CFO BILMONT: INTERESTING. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT WAS MY INITIAL QUESTION. 10 CFO BILMONT: SURE. SURE. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE 11 CAN USE GENERAL STATE APPORTIONMENT FOR A SCHOLARSHIP 12 FUND. AND WE CAN GO BACK AND RESEARCH THAT, BUT BACK WHEN 13 THIS -- I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY 1994 OR -- EXCUSE ME 2004 14 OR SOMETHING WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP. GENERAL FUND -- YOU 15 CAN'T USE GENERAL FUND MONEY FOR A SCHOLARSHIP ALLOCATION. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IS IT THAT 17 UNDER WITH SALES TAX DOLLARS WE CAN DO THAT. 18 CFO BILMONT: BECAUSE THE BALLOT MEASURE DOESN'T 19 FORBID IT, SO WE ARE USING, AS I HAVE SAID EARLIER, 20 NEGATIVE ASSURANCE THAT IT'S ALLOWABLE. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: IS NEGATIVE INSURANCE LIKE A CFO 22 TERM? 23 CFO BILMONT: NO. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: EXPLAIN IT TO ME. 25 CFO BILMONT: I THINK ATTORNEYS USE IT TO. MARCH 24, 2011 165 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SURE WE DO IN DIFFERENT TERMS. 2 WHY DON'T EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, NEGATIVE ASSURANCE. 3 CFO BILMONT: IT ESSENTIALLY, AS I SAID EARLIER, 4 THE BALLOT MEASURE DOESN'T PROHIBIT THE INSTITUTION FROM 5 ALLOCATING SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THIS PURPOSE. SO IF THE 6 BOARD DOES IT, WE BELIEVE IT IS PERMISSIBLE. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO ARE YOU SAYING 8 BECAUSE -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I SEE, SO -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OH. 11 CFO BILMONT: THE INSTITUTION HAS FOUND THAT IT 12 IS PERMISSIBLE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: SO NEGATIVE ASSURANCE IS LIKE AN 14 EXPLICIT PROHIBITION. THERE'S NO EXPLICIT PROHIBITION. 15 CFO BILMONT: THERE'S NO EXPLICIT PROHIBITION. 16 THAT IS CORRECT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 18 CFO BILMONT: YES. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE, DO YOU HAVE -- 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ARE YOU SAYING JUST 21 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY, YOU CAN'T DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT. 22 IS THAT A NEGATIVE ASSURANCE. I AM JUST TRYING TO 23 UNDERSTAND THAT WORD, BUT IT'S LATE. IT'S FINE. 24 CFO BILMONT: I LIKE EXPLICIT -- THERE'S NO 25 EXPLICIT PROHIBITION. I LIKE TRUSTEE NGO'S TERM A LITTLE MARCH 24, 2011 166 1 BIT BETTER. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 3 CFO BILMONT: THANK YOU. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I'M TIRED. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 6 COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? 7 OKAY, ALL THOSE -- 8 MS. SAGINOR: I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I'M SORRY. YOU ALSO OWE 10 US A CARD FROM THE LAST ONE. 11 MS. SAGINOR: I PUT THAT ONE IN TOO. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU DID, OKAY. 13 MS. SAGINOR: IT'S THERE. IT'S OKAY. I JUST -- 14 I WILL BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE IT IS LATE. I JUST WANTED TO 15 SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS. THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. AND AS 16 YOU KNOW, IT IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT HELPS US ACHIEVE 17 A DIVERSITY AND FACULTY HIRING, SO I'M JUST SUPPORTING IT. 18 THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 20 THANK YOU. 21 ALL THOSE -- DO WE HAVE A -- 22 WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN MARCH 24, 2011 167 1 FAVOR. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 11 THAT CARRIES. 12 OUR NEXT ITEM IS B5. 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I THINK IT'S B2. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B2, WE DIDN'T DO B2? 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: B2 -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: B2 IS "AUTHORIZATION FOR TWO 20 NEW CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS FOR NO MORE THAN $15,000 AND 21 NEW CONSTRUCTION RELATED SERVICE CONTRACTS THAT ARE NOT 22 MORE THAN $60,000. THESE ARE CONTRACTS THAT ARE NOT 23 SUBJECT TO THE FORMAL BIDDING REQUIREMENTS OF THE PUBLIC 24 CONTRACT CODE." 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR MARCH 24, 2011 168 1 B2? 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO MOVED. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): SECOND. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO (SIC). 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: FANG. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 8 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE FANG SECONDED IT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FANG, OH, I'M SORRY. 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT'S OKAY. IT'S LATE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY DISCUSSION? 12 ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE? 13 ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B2, SAY "AYE." 14 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 22 ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 23 OKAY, B2 CARRIES. 24 WE ARE NOW ON B5. 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: B5, MR. PRESIDENT, IS "AN MARCH 24, 2011 169 1 AUTHORIZATION TO APPROVE NEW CONTRACTS AND MODIFY EXISTING 2 CONTRACTS." 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAD ASKED TO -- I ASKED THIS 4 TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR BECAUSE I DID NOT 5 SEE A TOTAL, WHAT THE TOTAL OUTLAY FOR THIS RESOLUTION IS. 6 IT'S A TABLE WITH -- DOES SOMEONE KNOW THAT, HAVE THE 7 ANSWER TO THAT? 8 IT'S A TABLE OF MANY PAGES, BUT I DON'T SEE THE 9 TOTAL ANYWHERE? I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH 10 MONEY I'M APPROVING. 11 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THIS IS THE CONTRACT MATRIX. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THERE IS NO TOTAL. YOU ARE 14 CORRECT, MR. PRESIDENT. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE IS NO TOTAL. 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THEY ARE ALL GRANT FUNDED AS I 17 LOOK AT THEM. AND MANY OF THEM ARE TOTALLY UNRELATED TO 18 EACH OTHER, BUT -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH. 20 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- IF YOU WOULD LIKE TOTALS IN 21 THE FUTURE, WE CAN ADD THEM. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I SEE. I SEE. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE 24 ANY -- 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WELL, THAT WAS MY ONLY MARCH 24, 2011 170 1 QUESTION THEN. 2 ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 3 DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE? 4 ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY "AYE". 5 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 9 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. OPPOSED? 14 THAT CARRIES. 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING 16 THAT WAS INCORRECT. THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT ARE 17 UNRESTRICTED, BUT THEY ARE ALMOST ALL RESTRICTED. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: ALMOST ALL GRANTS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 21 WE ARE AT C1. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, THAT'S ALL CONSENT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY? 24 TRUSTEE NGO: THEY ARE ALL CONSENT I THOUGHT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, C1 -- WE PULLED C2 OFF. MARCH 24, 2011 171 1 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, WE DID. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: C2, MR. PRESIDENT, IS 4 "PROCUREMENT OF EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES, SERVICES, ET CETERA, 5 NO MORE THAN OR EQUAL TO $3,000. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 I PULLED THIS OFF BECAUSE ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS 8 SMALL, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN $3,000 9 NUMBER, IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY LARGE, SEVERAL MILLION 10 DOLLARS. AND ITS -- 11 ON THE FRONT PAGE OF C2 THERE'S TWO NUMBERS. 12 FEBRUARY AND JANUARY $1.4 MILLION AND $1.2 MILLION. I 13 JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHICH ONE OF THOSE THIS RESOLUTION 14 IS FOR. I THINK IT'S ONE -- I THINK IT IS JUST THE 15 FEBRUARY OR IS IT FOR BOTH? 16 CFO BILMONT: IT IS FOR BOTH MONTHS. LAST MONTH 17 WE -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT IS. 19 CFO BILMONT: WE HAD THE PROGRAM THAT WE WERE 20 RUNNING BLEW UP. WE HAD A COUPLE OF ABSENCES. WE DID NOT 21 PRODUCE THE C2 RESOLUTION FOR THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING, 22 SO THIS IS FOR TWO MONTHS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 24 CFO BILMONT: YES. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOW IS IT -- AND THIS IS A MARCH 24, 2011 172 1 REAL QUESTION -- 2 CFO BILMONT: YES. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION. 4 HOW IS IT THAT A $2.5 MILLION RESOLUTION CAN BE 5 ON CONSENT CALENDAR? 6 CFO BILMONT: SURE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE 8 PROCEDURE. 9 CFO BILMONT: WELL, THIS IS PART OF A PROCESS 10 THAT GOES BACK WITH A LONG HISTORY AT THE INSTITUTION. AS 11 WE KNOW, I WILL JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE CYCLE. WE 12 PASSED THE COST TO CONTINUE BUDGET, WHICH PROVIDES A 13 CERTAIN LEVEL OF AUTHORIZATION FOR THE INSTITUTION TO 14 OPERATE FROM ROUGHLY MAY UNTIL SEPTEMBER WHEN WE PASSED 15 THE FINAL BUDGET. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 17 CFO BILMONT: AND THEN EACH ONE OF THE C1 AND C2 18 RESOLUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IS A RESOLUTION THAT TAKES 19 THAT PORTION, THAT MONTH'S ACTIVITY AND REALLY PUTS IT 20 BEFORE THE BOARD FOR A FURTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT. 21 AND WITH EACH PASSING OF THE C1 AND C2, THE BOARD IS 22 SAYING WE'VE LOOKED AT THE EXPENDITURES FOR THAT PERIOD 23 AND WE APPROVE OF THEM. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. OKAY. 25 CFO BILMONT: AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS. AND NOW MARCH 24, 2011 173 1 GENERALLY IT FALLS IN THE 4,000, 5,000 AND 6,000 2 CATEGORIES. YOU KNOW, SUPPLIES, MATERIALS OTHER OPERATING 3 AND SOME SMALL CAPITAL OUTLAY STUFF. 4 LARGE SCALE CAPITAL OUTLAY IS HANDLED THROUGH 5 THE FIT COMMITTEE AND THE BOND RESOLUTIONS. AND THEN 6 SELLERS AND BENEFITS ARE ESSENTIALLY APPROVED IN THE COST 7 TO CONTINUE AND THE PERMANENT BUDGET. AND THEN THROUGHOUT 8 THE YEAR IT REALLY NEVER COMES BACK TO THE BOARD. WE 9 DON'T STOP MID-YEAR AND SAY, WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE 10 SALARY FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS FOR CLASSIFIED AND 11 CERTIFICATED EMPLOYEES. THAT'S THE LANDSCAPE OF THIS 12 WHOLE ISSUE. ALTHOUGH THIS RESOLUTION ONLY DEALS WITH 13 NON-SALARY, NON-PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK I GET IT. IT'S KIND 15 OF A CONTINUING -- 16 CFO BILMONT: IT IS. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- EXPENSE THING. 18 CFO BILMONT: IT'S CONTINUING SUPPLEMENT IN AN 19 ATTEMPT TO GIVE TO THE BOARD ALL THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE 20 PERIOD THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. THANK YOU. 22 ANY -- DID WE MOVE THIS? 23 I DON'T THINK WE DID. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I DON'T HAVE A NOTATION. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. MARCH 24, 2011 174 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 3 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 4 ANY COMMENT? 5 COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 17 OKAY, C2 CARRIES. 18 WE ARE NOW ON F1. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: F1 IS A HUMAN RESOURCES 20 RESOLUTION FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE 21 EDUCATIONAL APPOINTMENT, THE INTERIM VICE CHANCELLOR OF 22 STUDENT DEVELOPMENT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR F1? 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE THAT. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I WILL SECOND IT. MARCH 24, 2011 175 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 2 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 3 ANY DISCUSSION? 4 COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? 5 ALL RIGHT, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F1 CARRIES. 16 F2. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 20 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: AND THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER 22 ADMINISTRATIVE NON-EDUCATIONAL APPOINTMENT FOR ITERUM VICE 23 CHANCELLOR OF POLICY AND RESEARCH. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? MARCH 24, 2011 176 1 COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S JUST THAT -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: -- I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING 5 AT SOME POINT WITH THE INTERIM-TO-BE VICE CHANCELLOR OF 6 POLICY AND RESEARCH. 7 GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS FOR THE RECORD A 8 "YES" -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- OR SALUTE, WHICH MEANS "YES". 11 OKAY. THAT'S IT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 TRUSTEE RIZZO: TRUSTEES, HOW DO YOU VOTE? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 23 F2 CARRIES. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: (INAUDIBLE.) 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM TOLD BY THE CHANCELLOR MARCH 24, 2011 177 1 THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DO S9 BEFORE WE DO S3. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OH, YES. 3 TRUSTEE RIZZO: COULD YOU READ S9. 4 COUNSEL BATTISTE: CERTAINLY, MR. PRESIDENT, S9 5 IS A "SPECIAL ORGANIZATION AND PERSONNEL APPROVAL OF 6 RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE DIVISION AND THE POSITION OF THE 7 VICE CHANCELLOR OF CAMPUSES FOR THE SOUTHEAST/EVANS, 8 MISSION, AND CIVIC CENTER CAMPUS FOR FINANCIAL AID, AND 9 ADMISSIONS AND RECORDS, AND NEW STUDENT COUNSELING." 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR 11 S9? 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I WILL SECOND IT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 15 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I JUST HAVE ONE 17 QUESTION. SO WHAT'S DIFFERENT BETWEEN THESE CAMPUSES AND 18 DOWNTOWN AND LIKE THE AIRPORT IF WE DO HAVE A PURPOSE JUST 19 FOR ME. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE OTHER CAMPUSES ARE 21 ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE CALL SCHOOL DEANS, ACADEMIC UNITS, 22 AS WELL AS A CAMPUS. SO THE SOUTHEAST -- THE DEAN OF 23 SOUTHEAST AND THESE OTHER CAMPUSES THAT ARE LISTED HERE 24 HAVE ONLY A CAMPUS RESPONSIBILITY AND NOT A SCHOOL IN 25 ADDITION TO THAT. MARCH 24, 2011 178 1 SO DOWNTOWN WAS NOT INCLUDED. CHINATOWN WAS NOT 2 INCLUDED. AND JOHN ADAMS WAS NOT INCLUDED, WHICH WERE THE 3 MAIN ONES THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED. 4 AIRPORT, FORT MASON -- WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? 5 COUNSEL BATTISTE: CASTRO-VALENCIA. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: CASTRO-VALENCIA, THEY ARE 7 ALL ASSOCIATED WITH SCHOOLS AS WELL. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE NGO. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO APPLAUD THE CHANCELLOR 11 FOR THIS RESOLUTION, AND I THINK IT DOES A GOOD SERVICE TO 12 A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY. A LOT OF THE 13 ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TONIGHT AND ACTUALLY FOR THE 14 PAST SEVERAL YEARS, HAS BEEN HOW DO WE DEVELOP AND CREATE 15 KIND OF A FULL SERVICE CAMPUS IF POSSIBLE IN CERTAIN 16 SITES. AND I THINK COLLAPSING SOME OF THESE 17 RESPONSIBILITIES OR INTERGRADING THEM ANYWAY I THINK IS 18 VERY IMPORTANT IN DOING THAT. 19 I HAVE MADE MY DISSENT KNOWN TO THE CHANCELLOR 20 THAT I THINK IT IS A REALLY LONG TITLE. I DON'T KNOW IF 21 WE CAN ACRONYM IT OR NOT. MY SUGGESTION TO THE CHANCELLOR 22 AT SOME POINT IS TO CHANGE THE NAME BECAUSE IT IS REALLY 23 LONG. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU INTRODUCE THIS VICE 24 CHANCELLOR AT FUTURE MEETINGS, BUT IT WILL BE A MOUTH 25 FULL. MARCH 24, 2011 179 1 FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, THE FINANCIAL AID, 2 ADMISSION AND RECORDS, AND NEW STUDENT COUNSELING, IS THAT 3 JUST FOR THOSE CAMPUSES -- 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: -- OR IS IT ALL OF THOSE SERVICES? 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S ALL. I BELIEVE IT'S 7 SPECIFIED IN THE STATEMENT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BUT A AND R AND FINANCIAL 10 AID ARE ACROSS THE ENTIRE COLLEGE, AS WELL AS THE NEW 11 STUDENT COUNSELING, SO THOSE ARE THE CAMPUSES. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THE CONCEPT, JUST TO SAY IT 13 AGAIN, IS THAT WE WOULD INTEGRATE SOME OF THESE SERVICES 14 BETTER -- 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: -- INTO THESE CAMPUS SITES, RIGHT? 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WE HAVE 18 BEEN TOLD HISTORICALLY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS 19 BEEN DISCUSSED FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS, IS THAT THE CAMPUS 20 DEANS ARE NOT ABLE TO INTEGRATE THOSE SERVICES. THEY ARE 21 NOT ABLE TO INTEGRATE A AND E, A AND R OFFICES, FINANCIAL 22 AID OFFICES, COUNSELING OFFICES, AS WELL AS CUSTODIAL, 23 POLICE, THE WHOLE 9 YARDS. THEY HAVE A CAMPUS, BUT THEY 24 HAVE NO CONTROL WHATSOEVER OF ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, THANK YOU. MARCH 24, 2011 180 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM 2 TRUSTEES? 3 TRUSTEE FANG. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, WHILE I DO SUPPORT 5 THIS REORGANIZATION BECAUSE IT REVITALIZES THE OTHER 6 CAMPUSES AS MANY AS OF THE STUDENTS AND OTHER STUDENT 7 COUNCIL HAVE EXPRESSED A NEED OF THE SERVICES THEY NEED AT 8 THEIR CAMPUSES, I DO WANT -- I HAVE MADE MY OPINION KNOWN 9 TO THE CHANCELLOR ALREADY, AND I WILL JUST SAY IT PUBLIC 10 HERE, THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE 11 NEED TO GET THIS NEWS OUT THAT WE ARE DOING THIS TO 12 REVITALIZE THE CAMPUSES IN THE COMMUNITY. 13 JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE DO, IN CONJUNCTION TO THE 14 FACT OF WHEN WE DO GO OUT FOR PARCEL TAX THAT, YOU KNOW, 15 WE ARE CREATING NEW POSITIONS. IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT 16 WE MIGHT NEED TO THINK ABOUT IN THE BACK OF OUR HEAD. 17 THAT'S ALL. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: CAN I RESPOND? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OF COURSE. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE NUMBER OF NEW POSITIONS 21 ACTUALLY HAS DECLINED TREMENDOUSLY AS WELL AS THE DOLLAR 22 AMOUNT FOR ADMINISTRATION. SO AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WE HAD 23 57 ADMINISTRATORS, AND I BELIEVE NOW WE HAVE 43 OF WHICH 24 TWO OF THOSE ADMINISTRATORS WERE ACTUALLY CLASSIFIED 25 MANAGERS THAT WE JUST MOVED OVER TO ADMINISTRATION. SO IN MARCH 24, 2011 181 1 FACT WE'VE ACTUALLY REMOVED MORE THAN 14 ADMINISTRATORS. 2 IT'S MORE LIKE 16 ADMINISTRATORS. THIS IS JUST A 3 REORGANIZATION. IT IS NOT REALLY CREATING ANY STRAIN IN 4 THE BUDGET. 5 AND IN FACT ALMOST ALL OF THESE POSITIONS THAT 6 YOU ARE GOING TO ENCOUNTER TONIGHT, THE ADMINISTRATORS ARE 7 DOING DOUBLE DUTY FOR A VERY LITTLE AMOUNT OF MONEY. AND 8 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY COMMEND THEM FOR 9 TAKING ON THESE RESPONSIBILITIES WHICH ARE INTERIM 10 RESPONSIBILITIES. THEY ARE DOING IT FOR HARDLY ANY MONEY 11 WHATSOEVER. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ANY OTHER TRUSTEES? 13 YES. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY 15 THAT WHAT I MEAN TO SAY IS IT'S NOT THAT I THINK THERE ARE 16 NEW POSITIONS. THAT POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE MISCONSTRUED 17 THAT WAY. WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THAT AND HAVE THE 18 COMMUNITY BE KNOWN AND GET OUT IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT WE 19 ARE DOING THIS TO REVITALIZE THE COMMUNITY WHILE BEING 20 VERY FRUGAL WITH OUR DOLLARS. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: GREAT. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THAT'S ALL. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 24 IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS -- THAT WE 25 WERE TALKING ABOUT AN ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR BEFORE AND MARCH 24, 2011 182 1 NOT A VICE CHANCELLOR. AND I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE WERE 2 GOING TO PUT SOME ON FROM ALL THE CAMPUSES FOR THE REASONS 3 TO HAVE SOMEONE OVERSEE THE A AND E AND THE COUNSELING AT 4 ALL OF THE CAMPUSES AND NOT JUST THESE THREE CAMPUSES. 5 WAS THAT A CHANGE THAT WE'VE HAD? 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE INITIAL DISCUSSION -- 7 THERE WAS AN INITIAL DISCUSSION ABOUT ASSOCIATE VICE 8 CHANCELLOR. AND I THINK THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT YOU 9 RAISED AT THE TIME IS WHY WAS IT AN ASSOCIATE VICE 10 CHANCELLOR AND NOT A VICE CHANCELLOR? 11 AND I DID LOOK AT IT CAREFULLY AFTER YOU MADE 12 THAT STATEMENT AND SAID, GIVEN THE SIZE OF THIS, AND 13 WHAT'S GOING ON, IT SHOULD BE A VICE CHANCELLOR POSITION. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NOW WHAT WAS THE SECOND 16 QUESTION? 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE SECOND QUESTION WAS IT WAS 18 MY UNDERSTANDING AND PERHAPS I WAS MISUNDERSTANDING IT, 19 BUT THAT WE WERE GOING TO POSITION OVER ALL THE CAMPUSES 20 SO THAT ALL THESE COUNSELING AND -- 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- SOMEONE COULD COORDINATE 23 THAT OVER ALL THE CAMPUSES. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: RIGHT. THAT WAS NOT -- 25 TRUSTEE RIZZO: IT WAS NEVER -- MARCH 24, 2011 183 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION 2 TO PUT IT THAT WAY BECAUSE MOST OF US AT THE COLLEGE, WE 3 REFER TO CAMPUSES AS BEING CAMPUS DEANS AND THEN SCHOOL 4 DEANS. AND THE SCHOOL DEANS WHO HAVE CAMPUSES ARE A 5 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CATEGORY. THEY HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF 6 OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES IN ADDITION TO CAMPUSES. 7 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF ALLIED HEALTH, P.E. AND 8 DANCE WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH JOHN ADAMS IN ADDITION TO 9 RUNNING AND OPERATING THAT JOHN ADAMS CAMPUS. 10 LIKEWISE WITH THE CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH, YOU 11 HAVE THE ENTIRE ESL, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 PERCENT OR MORE OF 12 THE ENTIRE COLLEGE, PLUS OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES ARE THERE 13 IN ADDITION TO THE CAMPUS, SO IT'S QUITE A DIFFERENT 14 SITUATION. AND THE SAME THING WITH DOWNTOWN BECAUSE YOU 15 HAVE THE ENTIRE SCHOOL OF BUSINESS WHICH IS HUGE AND THEN 16 ALSO THE CAMPUS. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LOGISTICS IN 17 TERMS OF COORDINATING FOR THOSE CAMPUSES, BUT I THINK 18 THOSE CAN BE WORKED OUT. BUT THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT IN 19 A SENSE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? 22 MS. SAGINOR: I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE 23 IS THAT THIS NEEDS TO HAVE THE SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW 24 STATEMENT. I'M HOPING SOMEONE FROM THE DAIS CAN CONFIRM 25 THIS. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHANCELLOR'S MARCH 24, 2011 184 1 OFFICE -- 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ABSOLUTELY. 3 MS. SAGINOR: -- EARLIER TODAY. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT DOES HAVE A SHARED 5 GOVERNANCE STATEMENT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE -- HOW DO WE 6 SAY -- 7 COUNSEL BATTISTE: LATENESS. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: LATENESS OF GETTING THAT -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: EXIGENCY. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: EXIGENCY THAT WE BASICALLY 11 DIDN'T PUT IT ON THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IT, BUT I AM 12 NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT. 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WELL, WE CAN -- WELL, IT'S 14 NOT LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A -- ACTUALLY, THEY MENTIONED 15 THIS IN AN E-MAIL. IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION. 16 I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T INCLUDED BECAUSE IT HAD NOT 17 PASSED SHARED GOVERNANCE, BUT WE CAN ADD IT -- 18 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: -- IN THE FINAL VERSION. 20 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY, AND THAT WILL BE IN 21 BASICALLY THE SORT OF THE ARCHIVAL COPY -- 22 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 23 MS. SAGINOR: -- OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL 24 THAT. THANK YOU. 25 AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF MARCH 24, 2011 185 1 THIS MOTION THAT CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN CAME TO THE ACADEMIC 2 SENATE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL YESTERDAY. AND WE GRILLED HIM 3 RATHER THOROUGHLY ON ALL THE PARTS OF THIS. AND HE REALLY 4 DID A GREAT JOB SATISFYING OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. 5 AND WE ARE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS. IT'S A NEW 6 THING, AND SO WE KNOW THAT HE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT 7 HOW IT DEVELOPS OVER TIME. AND I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN 8 SUPPORT OF IT. THANK YOU. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ANYMORE COMMENTS? 11 MR. GABOR, IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A CARD -- 12 MR. GABOR: I CERTAINLY WILL. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AT SOME POINT. 14 MR. GABOR: ATTILA GABOR, PRESIDENT OF THE 15 CLASSIFIED SENATE. 16 YES, WE HAD DISCUSSED IT YESTERDAY ALSO AND BOTH 17 THE CLASSIFIED SENATE AND THE SEIU WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS 18 ALSO. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 20 MS. GOLDSTEIN: GUS GOLDSTEIN, MAY I ASK A 21 CLARIFYING QUESTION? 22 I THOUGHT THAT I UNDERSTOOD -- I THINK I 23 DETECTED SOME SORT OF MISCOMMUNICATION A FEW MOMENTS AGO, 24 BUT I AM NOT POSITIVE. 25 I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS POSITION WOULD MARCH 24, 2011 186 1 BE OVER CERTAIN CAMPUSES, PLUS THE FINANCIAL AID, 2 ADMISSION AND RECORDS, AND NEW STUDENT COUNSELING WAS OVER 3 ALL CAMPUSES. DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NEW STUDENT COUNSELING IS 5 OVERALL CAMPUSES. A AND R AND FINANCIAL AID ARE OVER ALL 6 CAMPUSES. 7 MS. GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT -- 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S WHAT THIS -- 9 MS. GOLDSTEIN: -- I UNDERSTOOD. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. 11 MS. GOLDSTEIN: OKAY. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT 13 UP. 14 MS. GOLDSTEIN: THANK YOU. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND THAT IS IN HERE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I HAVE ONE 18 CLARIFYING QUESTION. 19 HOW DOES THE ROLE OF THE ON THE GROUND CAMPUS 20 DEAN CHANGE NOW? 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WELL, THE ROLE IS GOING TO 22 CHANGE QUITE A BIT. IN FACT PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT 23 YOU DIDN'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY AND 24 ACTUALLY THE ABILITY IN TERMS OF BUDGETS AND EVERYTHING 25 ELSE TO MAKE SOME OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND THE WEAR WITH MARCH 24, 2011 187 1 ALL. 2 AND ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEW STUDENT 3 COUNSELING BEING UNDER HERE, THAT ALSO HELPS TOO BECAUSE 4 PROBABLY HAVE HALF OF THE COUNSELING THAT GOES ON OR MAYBE 5 A LITTLE MORE THAN IT, I'M NOT SURE, IS AT THE CAMPUSES. 6 AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN THAT WE 7 DIDN'T HAVE A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF COUNSELING AT THOSE 8 CAMPUSES LIKE THEY HAVE AT OCEAN. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE 9 DISTRIBUTED QUITE WELL. 10 THE ROLE OF THE DEAN WILL CHANGE, BUT IT WILL 11 NOT CHANGE IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS WORSE. I 12 THINK IT IS GOING TO BE BETTER. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND WILL THEY BE 14 WORKING WITH OTHER ADMINISTRATORS WHO ARE OVER THE CLASSES 15 AS WELL TO -- BECAUSE I KNOW NOW YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE FOR 16 THEM TO PUT THE SURFACE AND THE PROGRAMS INTO THE 17 CAMPUSES. 18 WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE MECHANISM FOR THE 19 DEANS TO WORK WITH OTHER ADMINISTRATORS AND SHARED 20 GOVERNANCE? I MEAN I GUESS THE DCC TO BRING IN THE 21 CLASSES -- 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: RIGHT. 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- TO THE CAMPUSES AS 24 WELL. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE MARCH 24, 2011 188 1 PRESENT IS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO OTHER FOLKS, OTHER VICE 2 CHANCELLORS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CAMPUSES. THIS VICE 3 CHANCELLOR WILL BE AT THE SEAT WITH ALL THE OTHER VICE 4 CHANCELLORS WHEN THOSE DISCUSSIONS COME UP. AND REST 5 ASSURED THAT PERSON WILL MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CAMPUSES 6 HAVE WHAT THEY NEED BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG PART OF THAT 7 PERSON'S CHARGE. SO THEY WILL BE SITTING THERE WITH ME 8 AND WITH THE VICE CHANCELLOR OF ACADEMIC AFFAIRS AND WITH 9 FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION, BUDGET ALLOCATIONS OF CLASSES, 10 ALL THAT STUFF WILL BE PART OF THEIR PURVIEW. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THANKS. THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE 13 AUDIENCE OR THE BOARD. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 25 S9 IS APPROVED. MARCH 24, 2011 189 1 WE WILL MOVE -- 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YOU MAY ALSO WANT TO TAKE S10 3 OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE 4 APPOINTMENT. AND THIS IS ALSO A NEWLY-CREATED POSITION. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S DO F3 BECAUSE F3 FILLS 6 THE POSITION OF S9. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. 8 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THEN WE WILL GO TO S10. 10 LEAP FROG BACK AND FORTH. 11 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF YOU COULD -- 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OH, YES, I'M SORRY. I 14 FORGOT. 15 THIS IS ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE EDUCATIONAL 16 APPOINTMENT FOR THE DEAN OF MISSION CAMPUS AND THE INTERIM 17 VICE CHANCELLOR OF CAMPUSES FOR THE SOUTHEAST/EVANS 18 CAMPUS, MISSIONS CAMPUS, CIVIC CENTER, AND ALSO VICE 19 CHANCELLOR FOR FINANCIAL AID, ADMISSIONS AND RECORDS, AND 20 NEW STUDENT COUNSELING. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 IS THERE A MOTION FOR F3? 23 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED MARCH 24, 2011 190 1 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 2 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 3 I WILL SAY THAT I THINK JORGE BELL IS AN 4 EXCELLENT CHOICE FOR THIS NEW POSITION. HE'S DONE A VERY 5 GOOD JOB WITH FINANCIAL AID AND HE'S ALSO THE DEAN OF 6 MISSION CAMPUS NOW SINCE THE LAST DEAN'S RETIREMENT. AND 7 I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. 8 ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? 9 ALL RIGHT, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 20 F3 CARRIES. 21 S9 -- OR S10. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: S10. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: MOVE S10. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED MARCH 24, 2011 191 1 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 2 COUNSEL, IS THERE ENOUGH LIGHT FOR YOU TO READ 3 IT OR -- 4 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I'M SORRY. THIS IS A 5 "SPECIAL ORGANIZATION AND PERSONNEL APPROVAL OF 6 RECOMMENDATION TO UPGRADE AND RECLASSIFY AN ACADEMIC 7 NON-EDUCATIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION FROM DEAN/CHIEF 8 FINANCIAL OFFICER TO ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR/CHIEF 9 FINANCIAL OFFICER. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. IS THERE ANY 11 DISCUSSION? 12 OKAY, FROM THE AUDIENCE? ANY DISCUSSION FROM 13 THE AUDIENCE? 14 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON THE BOARD, ALL THOSE IN 17 FAVOR. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? MARCH 24, 2011 192 1 S10 IS ALSO APPROVED. 2 GOING BACK TO THE F'S. 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: F4. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F4, RIGHT. 5 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. THIS IS AN 6 "ADMINISTRATIVE EDUCATIONAL APPOINTMENT INTERIM DEAN OF 7 FINANCIAL AID." 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS MOVED. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, IT WASN'T MOVED. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY, THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO MOVED; SECONDED BY 16 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 17 NO DISCUSSION. 18 DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE? 19 ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. MARCH 24, 2011 193 1 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 4 F4 IS APPROVED. 5 OKAY, WE ARE BACK ON THE S'S. 6 I HAVE S1, IS THAT CORRECT? 7 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YOU DID SKIP F5. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F5, OH, BOY, OKAY. 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THIS RESOLUTION IS ACTUALLY 10 APPOINTING MAKING THE ADMINISTRATIVE NON-EDUCATIONAL 11 APPOINTMENT OF THE ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR AND CHIEF 12 FINANCIAL OFFICER. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. OKAY. 14 IS THERE A MOTION? 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO MOVED. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 17 IS THERE A SECOND? 18 WE DO NEED A SECOND. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO 19 SECOND IT? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 22 DISCUSSION? 23 I WILL JUST SAY THIS IS ALSO AN EXCELLENT 24 APPOINTMENT OF JOHN BILMONT TO THIS NEW TITLE, AND I 25 WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT. MARCH 24, 2011 194 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT. 2 AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE ADMINISTRATORS, YOU 3 KNOW, WE ARE CUTTING SOME OF THE STAFF. I WANT TO MAKE 4 SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE NEW VICE CHANCELLOR'S ARE -- I 5 JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THE CHANCELLOR IS CONFIDENT THAT THEY 6 HAVE THE PROPER STAFF TO EXECUTE THEIR ADDITIONAL DUTIES. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THIS ONE DOES NOT REALLY 8 HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL DUTIES OTHER THAN DUTIES THAT WERE 9 ASSIGNED A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND, NO, WE ARE LOOKING OUT 12 TO TRY TO BE RIGHT SIZED FOR ALL OF THESE POSITIONS. THIS 13 IS AN ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR POSITION. AND WE HAVE 14 APPROVED TO TRY TO BACKFILL SOME OF THE POSITIONS FOR JOHN 15 BILMONT, SO THOSE ARE IN THE WORKS. 16 I THINK WE JUST BROUGHT ON ONE PERSON OR TWO 17 PEOPLE IN NEW POSITIONS, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING ON 18 FOUR OTHERS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT. IN 19 FACT HE'S LOST ABOUT TEN POSITIONS I BELIEVE OVER THE LAST 20 YEAR OR SO. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, AND MY CONCERN -- 22 AND IT'S JUST MY CONCERN. I DON'T WANT TO SET PHYLLIS OR 23 JORGE -- 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THEY ARE NOT GETTING 25 ANYMORE POSITIONS. MARCH 24, 2011 195 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I DON'T WANT TO SET 2 THEM UP TO FAIL. 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. NO. NO. NO. THEY 4 ARE NOT GETTING ANYMORE POSITIONS. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO MORE POSITIONS. YOU 6 GOT IT. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, THEY ARE NOT. THIS IS 8 NOT ABOUT GIVING THEM POSITIONS FOR THE VC'S OR WHATEVER. 9 JOHN BILMONT'S AREA IS AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN DECIMATED. 10 WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE POSITIONS IN THERE, AND THAT'S WHY 11 THAT'S OCCURRING. BUT WE ARE IN A SITUATION AT THE 12 COLLEGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING, AND WE ARE NOT 13 REPLACING. WE ONLY REPLACE VERY STRATEGICALLY WHERE WE 14 HAVE TO. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OF COURSE. AND MY 16 COMMENT IS MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE STAFF. BUT IF YOU 17 FEEL CONFIDENT, AND THEY'VE TAKEN THE ROLES -- 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- THEN, YOU KNOW, MORE 20 POWER TO YOU GUYS. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 22 I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE FEWER STAFF 23 ACCORDING TO OUR HEARINGS. WE HAVE 65 CLASSIFIED STAFF 24 ASSOCIATED WITH ADMINISTRATORS. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S A VERY THIN RATIO -- MARCH 24, 2011 196 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AT THIS POINT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER 4 COMMENT? 5 COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? 6 ALL RIGHT, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 17 OKAY, IT IS APPROVED. 18 SO NOW WE ARE ON S1. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE S1. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OH, YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS 24 IS A GRIEVANCE PROCEEDINGS PURSUANT TO THE GOOD FAITH 25 HIRING PROVISIONS OF THE PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT FOR THE MARCH 24, 2011 197 1 CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH CAMPUS PROJECT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 3 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. I WANT TO SAY THAT JUST AS A 4 POINT OF ORDER, THERE SHOULDN'T BE FOUR ORIGINATORS ON 5 THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT INDICATES A BROWN ACT 6 VIOLATION. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, I DON'T THINK IT DOES 8 BECAUSE THIS WAS -- THE ORIGINATORS WERE ADDED AT THE 9 PUBLIC MEETING, SO THERE WAS -- THE DISCUSSION WAS. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T REMEMBER -- OKAY, IF YOU 11 RECALL THAT, THEN I WILL RETRACK MY STATEMENT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I DIDN'T RECALL THAT SO -- 14 I WANT TO -- THIS HAS BEEN HEARD IN FIT AND -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: APPROVED. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: -- I WANT TO COMMEND THE CHAIR OF 17 FIT AND THE PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT RIZZO, FOR AGAIN MAKING 18 SURE THAT ALL OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING USED IN A 19 VERY SMART WAY, NOT JUST ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, BUT ALSO ON 20 THE HIGHER SIDE, UNEMPLOYMENT SIDE. AND THIS IS A 21 RESOLUTION THAT'S VERY TIMELY AND KEY AT THIS POINT IN THE 22 STAGE OF CONSTRUCTION. 23 WE HAVE 235,000 HOURS LEFT IN THE CHINATOWN 24 PROJECT. THAT'S ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF THE HOURS, WHICH IF 25 YOU DO THE MATH EQUALS A LOT OF WAGES FOR LOCAL FAMILIES, MARCH 24, 2011 198 1 WHO ARE ABLE AND WILLING TO WORK, BUT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE 2 TO GET ONTO THE PROJECT. SO THIS IS TAKING OUR RIGHT 3 SERIOUSLY UNDER THE PLA IN ENSURING WE HAVE -- WE EXPLORE 4 ALL REMEDIES AVAILABLE -- ALL REMEDIES AT OUR DISPOSAL TO 5 ENSURE THAT THERE'S ECONOMIC FAIRNESS IN THE USE OF OUR 6 TAX DOLLARS, AND THAT WE ARE DOING IT IN A SMART AND 7 CONSCIENTIOUS WAY. 8 I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW TRUSTEES FOR 9 SIGNING ON APPARENTLY AT THIS MEETING. MR. MARKS AND ALSO 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON BOTH OF WHOM ALSO WHO HAVE BEEN VEHEMENT 11 ADVOCATES FOR LOCAL HIRE AND A SENSIBLE ECONOMIC POLICY AS 12 IT RELATES TO OUR TAX DOLLARS. SO I WANT TO WELCOME AND 13 THANK THEM FOR THEIR SUPPORT. AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO 14 ENDORSE THIS AS WELL. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 16 I WILL JUST THANK TRUSTEE NGO FOR BRINGING THIS 17 FORWARD. I THINK THIS WILL REALLY ENHANCE OUR LOCAL 18 HIRING EFFORTS FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE 21 AUDIENCE? 22 OKAY, SEEING NONE, TRUSTEE FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) MARCH 24, 2011 199 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 8 S1 IS APPROVED. 9 S-- 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S3. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S3. 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS 13 IS A "RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT AN AMENDMENT TO THE 14 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE AFT LOCAL 2121 15 AND THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY DISTRICT." 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND SECOND BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 I THINK I OWE AN APOLOGY TO MS. GOLDSTEIN 21 BECAUSE SHE BROUGHT UP A CARD FOR F3, AND I DON'T THINK I 22 RECOGNIZED YOU. 23 MS. GOLDSTEIN: NO. NO. NO. I WAS. 24 MR. GABOR: YEAH, SHE WAS. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS WAS BACKFILLING. OH, MARCH 24, 2011 200 1 OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD I DIDN'T DO THAT. 2 ALL RIGHT. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THIS S3? 3 DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE? 4 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 15 ALL RIGHT. S3 IS APPROVED. 16 IS THAT IT? 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S7. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S7. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YES. 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS 22 "THE BOARD VOTES FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRUSTEE 23 BOARD OF DIRECTORS." 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WILL SOMEONE MOVE THIS. 25 OH, NO WE CAN'T. WE HAVE TO DECIDE -- WE CAN'T MOVE -- WE MARCH 24, 2011 201 1 NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE ARE MOVING. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS -- WE CAN VOTE TO -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS 5 RESOLUTION. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION TO 7 TABLE. 8 IS THERE A SECOND? 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE'S A SECOND. MOTIONS TO 11 TABLE ARE NOT DEBATABLE, CORRECT? 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEAH. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I WOULD WANT TO FOLLOW 14 TRUSTEES GRIER'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS SINCE SHE IS -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: THEY ARE NOT DEBATABLE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THEY ARE NOT DEBATABLE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OH, IT'S NOT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, MOTIONS TO TABLE ARE NOT 19 DEBATEABLE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OH, REALLY. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO WE LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 22 VOTE ON IT. 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OH, OKAY. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: WE HAVEN'T VOTED TO TABLE IT YET. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, I THOUGHT YOU DID. MARCH 24, 2011 202 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I MADE THE MOTION. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE, ALL RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEES? 6 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 10 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM ALSO GOING TO VOTE TO 14 TABLE. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHEN IS THE APRIL BOARD 17 MEETING? 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I DON'T KNOW. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE VOTE TO TABLE -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: FAILS. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- PASS. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, NO, WE NEED FOUR. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: FOUR. YES, YOU DO. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, VOTE TO TABLE -- MARCH 24, 2011 203 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: TRUSTEE GRIER WANTED 2 TO -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO NOW WE CAN DISCUSS IT 4 BECAUSE THE VOTE TO TABLE FAILED. 5 WHO WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS? 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: I WOULD. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: LET ME BORROW YOURS. I CAN'T 9 FIND MINE FOR SOME REASON. 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I THINK YOU NEED TO MOVE THE 11 MOTION. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT 13 IS THE MOTION WE ARE MOVING BECAUSE THERE ARE 12 14 CANDIDATES AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO -- WE CAN ONLY -- WE 15 HAVE TO DECIDE WHICH ONES WE ARE GOING TO DO IF ANY. 16 WHAT WOULD THE MOTION BE? 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE WOULD BRING FORTH NAMES TO -- 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- RECOMMEND FOR -- 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: EIGHT NAMES. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: EXACTLY. 22 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I THINK THE BOARD IS -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, LET'S BE CLEAR WHAT THE 24 RESOLUTION IS SAYING. IT'S SAYING WE WON'T HAVE VOTE IN 25 OPEN SESSION, RIGHT? MARCH 24, 2011 204 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS? 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WE MAY EXERCISE THE OPTION TO NAME 4 A TOTAL OF EIGHT VOTES. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, OKAY. LIKE WE ALWAYS DO. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO VOTE -- DON'T 7 WE HAVE TO VOTE TO DO THIS TO TALLY. THIS IS THE PROBLEM 8 WITH THE RESOLUTION I THINK -- IS THAT THE RESOLUTION IS 9 TO TALLY THE VOTES, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO 10 ACTUALLY TALLY IT TONIGHT, DOES IT? 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IN THE PAST IF I RECALL 12 CORRECTLY, WE'VE DONE IT PUBLICLY HERE WHERE PEOPLE DECIDE 13 ON WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. ONE OR TWO OR 14 WHATEVER. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND THEY KIND OF -- IT'S 17 KIND OF AN ORAL TALLY. THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS THIS 18 HAS TO BE POSTMARKED BY APRIL THE 25TH. SO WE NEED TO DO 19 SOMETHING TONIGHT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IF WE ARE -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MAY I? 24 TRUSTEE BERG HAS MANY TIMES THIS YEAR SUGGESTED 25 THAT WE ASK FRED TETI TO BE A PARLIAMENTARIAN THAT WE MARCH 24, 2011 205 1 APPOINT HIM TO BE A PARLIAMENTARIAN. AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN 2 AROUND TO ASKING HIM, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF -- 3 MR. TETI: AFTER 11:00 AT NIGHT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- HE WOULD GIVE AN OPINION ON 5 WHAT WE WOULD BE MOVING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T 6 WANT TO, BUT I AM TOLD YOU ARE AN EXPERT AT THIS KIND OF 7 STUFF. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD 9 IDEA, YEAH. 10 MR. TETI: FRED TETI, ACADEMIC SENATE SECOND 11 VICE PRESIDENT. 12 I AM NOT SURE THIS IS AN ISSUE OF 13 PARLIAMENTARIAN PROCEDURE OR SIMPLY THE WAY THIS 14 PARTICULAR RESOLUTION HAS BEEN WRITTEN. 15 IF YOU PASS THIS, IT SAYS YOU ARE RESOLVING -- 16 YOU'RE DECLARING THAT YOU WILL TALLY VOTES IN OPEN 17 SESSION. IT DOESN'T SAY IF THAT'S HAPPENING -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOW. 19 MR. TETI: -- NOW OR AT YOUR NEXT OPEN SESSION. 20 IT SEEMS TO ME WHAT SHOULD BE HERE IS THE PROPOSAL OF 21 WHICH EIGHT CANDIDATES YOU WILL BE VOTING FOR AND EXACTLY 22 HOW YOU WILL DETERMINE THAT EIGHT. 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT'S UNCLEAR. 24 MR. TETI: YEAH, YES. I DO NOT KNOW HOW YOU'VE 25 DONE THAT IN THE PAST. DID IT HAPPEN HERE IN CHAMBER OR MARCH 24, 2011 206 1 DID IT HAPPEN IN CLOSED SESSION? I HONESTLY DON'T 2 REMEMBER. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN IN CLOSED 4 SESSION. 5 MR. TETI: OKAY. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO, THIS IS NOT A CLOSED 7 SESSION TOPIC. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WE NEED EIGHT PEOPLE. 9 MR. TETI: OPEN SESSION. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND NOT ONLY DID WE VOTE FOR THE 11 TOTAL RECOMMENDED NUMBER OF EIGHT, USUALLY WE VOTE FOR 12 PEOPLE WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEM -- 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- FOR REASONS. AND WE 15 DISCUSSED THEM AND THEN WE VOTE ON THE ONES THAT WE 16 NOMINATE FOR THE VOTE. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I BELIEVE LAST YEAR, TRUSTEE 18 GRIER, I THINK THE BOARD MAY HAVE PUT FORTH I THINK TWO OR 19 THREE OR FOUR NAMES. I DON'T THINK IT WAS EIGHT. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO. NO. IT'S -- 21 TRUSTEE NGO: IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WE NEED FOUR 22 VOTES TO HAVE ANY -- RIGHT? 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: CORRECT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M NOT GOING VOTING FOR THIS 25 RESOLUTION. MARCH 24, 2011 207 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT. I 3 DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ACTUALLY 4 MET THEM. WE NEED TO PUT IN THE RESOLUTION IN PROPER FORM 5 THAT WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THEM. I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN 6 ANY VALUE ACTUALLY IN HAVING ANY ONE OF OUR FOLKS THAT WE 7 PUT UP THERE FOR THIS COLLEGE. I REMEMBER LAST YEAR OR 8 THE YEAR BEFORE THAT PUTTING NAMES OUT THERE THAT WE GIVE 9 THEM A CALL. I THINK IT'S ON THE RECOMMENDATION, TRUSTEE 10 GRIER. 11 I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY REPORTS ABOUT THIS BOARD, 12 ANY PROGRESS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CCCT. 13 AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO SPEND TIME DEBATING WHO TO PUT 14 FORWARD. I THINK IT'S LITTLE TOO RUSHED AND IN MY OPINION 15 ALMOST IRRELEVANT. SO I DON'T PLAN ON SUPPORTING THIS 16 RESOLUTION. I MOVED TO TABLE IT, BUT IT FAILED. WE NEED 17 FOUR VOTES TO DO ANYTHING ANYWAY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET ME ASK, TRUSTEE FANG, ARE 19 YOU INCLINED TO AGREE WITH TRUSTEE NGO ON THIS OR WHAT IS 20 YOUR INTENTION? 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I AGREE WITH TRUSTEE NGO 22 ON THIS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I REALLY NEED MORE TIME 25 TO REALLY GO OVER WHICH TO CHOOSE. AND IF IT WE ARE MARCH 24, 2011 208 1 NOMINATING BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE CCCT, I'D RATHER BE 2 MUCH MORE PREPARED BEFORE I CAN MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO IF THAT'S TRUE, WE DO 4 NOT HAVE FOUR VOTES. 5 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: CALL THE QUESTION. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THERE WAS NO QUESTION. 8 THERE WAS NO MOTION MADE. THAT'S WHAT I AM GETTING AT. 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF THERE'S NO MOTION -- 11 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. IT HASN'T BEEN MOVED 12 ACTUALLY. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT HAS NOT BEEN MOVED. 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT HAS NOT BEEN MOVED THE 15 MOTION ITSELF. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER, I DON'T KNOW IF 17 YOU WANT TO MOVE SOMETHING. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULDN'T 18 PASS, BUT YOU CAN. YOU CAN MOVE SOMETHING IF YOU WISH. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE 20 WORK WITH ONE PERSON. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: I DO AGREE WITH TRUSTEE NGO TO A 23 SMALL DEGREE AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH HAVING SOME KIND OF 24 FEEDBACK OR RECOMMENDATIONS OR REPRESENTATION AT THESE 25 DIRECTOR MEETINGS AND BE MADE AWARE OF THEIR PROGRESS OF MARCH 24, 2011 209 1 WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THAT REALLY IS A MISSING LINK. AND 2 FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD SPEND OUR 3 TIME BETTER IF WE WERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE THOUGHT 4 THE PERSON SHOULD -- HOW THE PERSON SHOULD REPRESENT US 5 AND COME BACK WITH INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION. AND SO 6 WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK WE WILL DO BETTER TO DO THAT 7 AND WE CAN DO THAT AT A LATER TIME. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE 9 NO -- 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. YOU COULD WITHDRAW 11 THE MOTION. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THERE WAS NO MOTION 13 MADE. 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE WILL JUST MOVE ON. IT 16 FAILS FOR A LACK OF A MOTION OR SECOND. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE WILL DO S8. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED BY 22 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S8 IS "AUTHORIZING THE 24 ADMINISTRATION TO ENTER INTO A WORKLOAD AND COMPENSATION 25 AGREEMENT BETWEEN AFT LOCAL 2121, RUSSELL JAMES, AND THE MARCH 24, 2011 210 1 SFCCD. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 4 DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE? 5 ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, TRUSTEE FANG. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 16 S8 IS APPROVED. 17 AND FINALLY -- NO, WE DID S9 AND S10, SO THAT'S 18 IT FOR THE RESOLUTION. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S11. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, S11, I'M LOOKING AT THE 21 WRONG -- S11 OH, YES. 22 IS THERE A MOTION FOR S11? 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): SO MOVED. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO (SIC). 25 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE FANG. MARCH 24, 2011 211 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: FANG. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 3 WAS THERE A SECOND? 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND IT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 6 THIS IS "AUTHORIZING A DISTRICT CREDIT CARD FOR 7 THE CHANCELLOR'S DEPARTMENT." 8 I ACTUALLY ASKED THAT THIS BE ON THE AGENDA 9 BECAUSE THIS AUTHORIZES A SMALL CREDIT CARD 1,000 LIMIT 10 WITH SOME SEVERE RESTRICTIONS IN IT, THAT WE HAVE A NOTE 11 FROM JOHN BILMONT, CFO JOHN BILMONT, AS TO THE 12 RESTRICTIONS. 13 AND IT'S COME TO THE ATTENTION THAT THERE -- 14 THAT THE LACK OF THIS IS REALLY LIMITING SOME OF THE 15 THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WITH THE BOARD BECAUSE WE 16 CAN'T ASK EMPLOYEES TO GO OUT WITH CASH, THEIR OWN CASH, 17 AND BUY SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED AT THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT. 18 SO I ASKED THAT THIS BE PUT ON. 19 I THINK IT IS VERY RESTRICTIVE. IT'S ONLY 20 $1,000, AND I THINK THIS IS NEEDED TO HELP THE BOARD. IT 21 COULD BE USED TO BUY SOME SNACKS FOR THE BOARD. THAT'S 22 ONE REASON WE CAN'T HAVE ANY SNACKS IS BECAUSE WE CAN'T 23 ASK AN EMPLOYEE TO SHELL OUT THEIR OWN CASH TO DO THAT. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I NEED THE SNACKS. 25 WE GOT TO HAVE SNACKS. MARCH 24, 2011 212 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M GLAD 3 TO SEE SOME SORT OF LETTER OR MEMO TO THE CARD HOLDER ON 4 THIS. AND I THINK WHEN WE HAD THIS DEBATE BEFORE GOING 5 BACK TO LAST YEAR ABOUT DISTRICT CREDIT CARDS, IT WAS THIS 6 KIND OF CLEAR SENSE OF WHAT IS GOING TO GOVERN CREDIT CARD 7 USE. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS. 8 AND I THINK IF WE CAN INCORPORATE THIS STANDARD 9 TO OTHER AREAS OF THE DISTRICT, I WOULD BE MORE 10 COMFORTABLE WITH A CREDIT CARD BEING ISSUED. AND THIS IS 11 A LETTER NOW, BUT IT SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE 12 REG OF SOME SORT, BUT I WANT TO COMMEND THE DISTRICT FOR 13 COMING UP WITH THIS PROCESS. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S A GOOD MEMO. 15 CFO BILMONT: WELL, THANK YOU. 16 WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD THESE WITH THE CREDIT CARDS, 17 BUT WE'VE REVISED IT. AND CERTAINLY, WE'VE DISCLOSED IT 18 AS AN ATTACHMENT WITH THIS PARTICULAR CREDIT CARD 19 RESOLUTION. WE ARE USING THIS FORMAT IN SOME OTHER AREAS 20 TOO IN TERMS OF HOW WE NOTICE EMPLOYEES OF WHAT THEY'VE 21 BEEN EMPOWERED TO DO AND ASK THEM TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN 22 WRITING. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 24 CFO BILMONT: THANK YOU. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. MARCH 24, 2011 213 1 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 2 PUBLIC COMMENT? 3 MS. PODENSKI: FRANCINE PODENSKI. I GUESS 4 SPEAKING AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE. 5 I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT THE REASON 6 WE CANNOT ADVERTISE ON FACEBOOK IS THE LACK OF A CREDIT 7 CARD. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S RIGHT. 9 MS. PODENSKI: AND THE AMOUNT THERE WOULD BE 10 $5,000. SO YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THE AMOUNT LIKE IF IT'S A 11 $6,000 CREDIT CARD, THEN WE COULD QUICKLY ADVERTISE ON 12 FACEBOOK AND YOU COULD STILL HAVE YOUR SNACKS. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T KNOW MAYBE WE SHOULD 14 TAKE THAT UP ANOTHER TIME. 15 THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGH. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO PUT IT 17 OUT THERE THAT I WAS THE GUY THAT ATE THE LAST PIECE OF 18 PIZZA FOR YOU GUYS. AND SO, FRANCINE, YOUR FOLKS ARE 19 GOING TO BEAT ME UP AFTER THIS BOARD MEETING. BUT IF WE 20 HAD SNACKS, I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO TAKE THE LAST PIECE OF 21 PIZZA THAT YOU GUYS HAD HAD SO -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MS. PODENSKI, IF YOU COULD 23 FILL OUT A CARD FOR US. 24 MS. PODENSKI: I AM GOING TO. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. MARCH 24, 2011 214 1 TRUSTEE FANG. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 12 OKAY, S11 IS APPROVED. 13 THAT IS ALL OF THE RESOLUTIONS. 14 I THINK WE HAVE BOARD OF TRUSTEES' REPORTS. 15 IS THAT WHAT WHERE WE ARE? I BELIEVE SO. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, YOU'RE ON THAT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: START TRUSTEE FANG. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, I'M WORKING WITH OUR 19 GENERAL COUNSEL, LANI, TO TALK ABOUT THE STUDENT 20 REPRESENTATION FEE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY EARLIER IN 21 THE PRESENTATION TO HAVE THAT INSTITUTED SO THAT WE WILL 22 HAVE DOLLARS FOR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GO UP TO 23 SACRAMENTO IN A MORE ROBUST FASHION TO ADVOCATE ON OUR 24 STUDENT'S BEHALF. 25 THE MARCH IN MARCH WAS A SUCCESS. WE BROUGHT UP MARCH 24, 2011 215 1 AT LEAST 1400 MEMBERS OF CITY COLLEGE. AND WITH 38 BUSES, 2 WE CAN PROBABLY SAY WE ACCOUNT FOR OVER 10 PERCENT OF THE 3 TOTAL STUDENTS WHO ATTENDED THE MARCH IN MARCH. 4 AND OF COURSE, TRUSTEE NGO, WAS RIGHT THAT WE DO 5 NEED TO GO BEYOND THAT. AND AS WAS DONE LAST YEAR WE DO 6 FOLLOW-UP VISITS TO THE LEGISLATORS AND THAT WILL BE DONE, 7 AS WELL AS CONSIDER OTHER ACTIONS. SO MORE IS COMING ON 8 THAT FRONT. 9 STUDENTS ARE ENGAGED TO HELP WITH SHORT-TERM 10 COURSES ENROLLMENT. I HAVE PLEDGED TO GET AS MANY 11 STUDENTS I CAN TO HELP THE CHANCELLOR IN THAT REGARD SO WE 12 COULD GET TO OUR FTES GOAL. 13 I ALSO WANT TO THANK, PRESIDENT RIZZO, FOR 14 COMING TO THE EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING ON THIS TUESDAY. 15 AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO PUTTING TOGETHER A JOINT 16 MEETING BETWEEN THE ASSOCIATED STUDENT EXECUTIVE BOARD AND 17 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 18 AND LAST, AND ALSO ONE THING IS ON THE EXECUTIVE 19 BOARD, WE HAVE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PARCEL TAX AS AN 20 ITEM. AND I DO INTEND TO PUT THAT ON AS A REGULAR THING 21 SO THAT THE STUDENTS CAN HAVE A SUFFICIENT AIRING OF THAT 22 ISSUE SINCE THE STUDENT IS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE AMOUNT 23 OF DOLLAR WE HAVE IN THIS DISTRICT. 24 LASTLY, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 25 FOR ALLOWING ME TO ENJOY THE RIGHTS ENTITLED UNDER THE MARCH 24, 2011 216 1 EDUCATION CODE FOR A STUDENT TRUSTEE BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A 2 FACT WORKING AND TALKING TO OTHER STUDENT TRUSTEES IN 3 OTHER DISTRICTS, A LOT OF THE ENUMERATED RIGHTS UNDER THE 4 ED CODE FOR STUDENT TRUSTEES ARE NOT EVEN PRACTICED OR 5 ACKNOWLEDGED, SUCH AS MAKING MOTIONS, OR A LOT OF TIME THE 6 ADVISORY VOTE FOR OTHER DISTRICTS WERE JUST ASKED AS AN 7 AFTER FACT. OH, LIKE, YOU ARE THERE. THAT KIND OF THING. 8 BUT I CAN ALWAYS GO OUT THERE AND PROUDLY SAY 9 THAT OUR DISTRICT RESPECTS OUR STUDENTS, OUR STUDENT 10 TRUSTEES, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT RIZZO. 14 I HAVE A VERY LONG REPORT AND BECAUSE IT IS 15 11:25, YOU CAN HEAR IT NEXT TIME. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IF WE DON'T HAVE TIME 18 TO ADVERTISE THIS, I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW ON 19 APRIL 29TH WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING WHAT'S CALLED FRISCO 20 DAY. AND IT'S GOING TO BE RUN WITHIN THE OFFICE OF 21 OUTREACH AND RECRUITMENT. AND ACTUALLY LINDY MCKNIGHT IS 22 GOING TO BE WORKING ON THIS ISSUE WITH LAURIE SCOLARI. 23 WE ARE BRINGING 1500 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FROM 24 SF UNIFIED ON TO CITY COLLEGE'S OCEAN CAMPUS. AND WE ARE 25 GOING TO BE HAVING, YOU KNOW, TABLES, DEPARTMENTS ARE MARCH 24, 2011 217 1 GOING TO BE OUT THERE. AND WE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE -- 2 THESE ARE SOME SENIORS AND THERE WILL ALSO BE JUNIORS. 3 AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD SHOW FOR THESE HIGH 4 SCHOOL STUDENTS. 5 AND AS THE RESEARCH SHOWS, STUDENTS THAT -- THIS 6 REALLY CAN HELP IN CONCURRENT ENROLLMENT IN GETTING 7 STUDENTS INTO THE CLASSES BEFORE THEY HIT COLLEGE BECAUSE 8 STUDENTS HAVE A 75 PERCENT CHANCE MORE LIKELY OF A CHANCE 9 TO ENTER COLLEGE IF THEY TAKE IN COURSEWORK BEFORE THEY'VE 10 GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL, SO I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL 11 OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW OUR BEST AND BRIGHTEST OF FACES. AND 12 I HOPE EVERYONE HERE REALLY DOES PARTICIPATE WITHIN THEIR 13 DEPARTMENTS AND WITHIN CLASSES TO REALLY MAKE FRISCO DAY A 14 VERY WELCOMING DAY FOR THE 1500 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT 15 ARE COMING ON OUR CAMPUS. 16 AND I KNOW I AM GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN 17 SOME KIND OF ROLE. I WILL TALK ABOUT -- I WILL BE TALKING 18 WITH FOLKS LATER. BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY WHAT BRINGS 19 OUT THE BEST IN THIS COLLEGE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO 20 HAVING THAT EVENT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE 21 HERE. THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I HAVE NO REPORT AT THIS TIME. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. I JUST WANT TO 25 CONGRATULATE OUR MEN'S AND WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAMS FOR MARCH 24, 2011 218 1 DOING SO WELL. THE MEN CAME IN FIRST, STATE CHAMPIONS. 2 AND THE WOMEN CAME IN SECOND IN THE STATE 3 CHAMPIONSHIPS. 4 I JUST FIND THAT QUITE IMPRESSIVE THAT BOTH OUR 5 MEN'S AND WOMEN'S TEAMS IN BASKETBALL DID SO WELL. IT'S A 6 REAL TRIBUTE TO OUR ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT I THINK. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO, WE DIDN'T 8 INVITE THEM. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DID INVITE THEM, BUT THEY 10 SAID THERE WAS TOO MUCH GOING ON AND THEY WOULD RATHER 11 COME NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONTH. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR DOING 13 THAT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR, DO YOU HAVE A 15 REPORT? 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: MOTION TO ADJOURN. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT RIGHT 20 NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENTS. 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE NO 22 ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM CLOSED SESSION. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THE FINAL ITEM IS THE 24 REQUEST TO SPEAK. 25 ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK? MARCH 24, 2011 219 1 THERE ARE NONE. 2 I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO MOVED. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 SECOND? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 8 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:16 P.M.) 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 24, 2011 220 1 2 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 3 4 5 I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED 6 SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING 7 PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND 8 THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER 9 MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A 10 TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. 11 12 13 DATED: APRIL 22, 2011 14 15 16 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 17 STATE OF CALIFORNIA 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MARCH 24, 2011