SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2011 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO GOUGH STREET CAMPUS 33 GOUGH STREET SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 DR. NATATLIE BERG 7 DR. ANITA GRIER 8 CHRIS JACKSON 9 MILTON MARKS III 10 STEVE NGO 11 JOHN RIZZO 12 LAWRENCE WONG 13 14 15 DR. DON Q. GRIFFIN, CHANCELLOR 16 LEILANI BATTISTE, GENERAL COUNSEL 17 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OCTOBER 27, 2011 3 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2 2011, COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 6:48 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY 3 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, 33 GOUGH STREET, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD: 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OCTOBER 27, 2011 4 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING 2 OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT CITY COLLEGE. 3 CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PRESIDENT JOHN RIZZO. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: VICE PRESIDENT CHRIS 7 JACKSON. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: HERE. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. NATALIE BERG. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: HERE. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. ANITA GRIER. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: HERE. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE MILTON MARKS. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE IS IN THE BUILDING. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE STEVE NGO. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE LAWRENCE WONG. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: HE'S HERE TOO. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE IS IN THE BUILDING AS WELL. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY 21 FANG. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESENT AND WIDE AWAKE 23 WITHOUT COFFEE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 25 COULD WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF OCTOBER 27, 2011 5 1 ALLEGIANCE. 2 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC 4 COMMENT. WE HAVE A TEN-MINUTE PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT 5 FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. 6 IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING 7 THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? 8 OKAY, I DON'T SEE -- 9 MS. JACKSON: OH, I WANT TO SPEAK THEN. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S 11 NOT ON THE AGENDA. IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA, WE WILL GET TO 12 IT. 13 MS. JACKSON: IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT, THEN COME ON UP 15 THEN. 16 MS. JACKSON: GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS 17 ESPANOLA JACKSON, BAYVIEW HUNTERS-POINT. 18 THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING HERE IN A LONG 19 TIME. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ON THURSDAY THERE WAS 20 A MEETING WITH THE PUC COMMISSION. AND BECAUSE OF MY 21 INVOLVEMENT WITH THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THE 22 COMMISSION THERE AND WITH THE EVANS CAMPUS WHEN IT 23 STARTED -- AND PUC CAME INTO -- IN THE 90'S. WE DIDN'T 24 HAVE A PUC. WE USED TO HAVE THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND THE 25 DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS THAT WAS THE OVERSEER FOR THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 6 1 SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 2 WELL, ON -- SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, 3 WE'VE HAD PUC GET INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND 4 WITH THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY FACILITY COMMISSION BECAUSE 5 THEY WERE UNAWARE OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THAT 6 SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 7 SO I HAVE TO GIVE A HISTORY. I LOVE GIVING 8 HISTORY ABOUT HOW THINGS STARTED, AND WHY, AND HOW IT 9 STARTED. 10 I SEE ONE OF YOUR STAFF SITTING HERE. HE WAS AT 11 THAT PUC COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY. AND IF YOU LIKE, 12 I HAVE A YOUNG MAN HERE WHO CAN GIVE YOU THE LINK TO THAT 13 HEARING THAT WAS HELD ON THURSDAY. AND I WENT THERE, 14 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE RUMBLING AND THE CALLS THAT 15 I AM RECEIVING ABOUT HOW THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY COLLEGE 16 IS TO BE RUN. 17 I STATED TO THAT COMMISSION THAT I WANTED THEM 18 TO HAVE THAT STAFF AS OF THAT DAY, WHICH WAS THURSDAY -- 19 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 20 MS. JACKSON: -- CEASE AND DESIST IN DEALING 21 WITH THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, 23 MS. JACKSON. THAT IS -- YOUR TIME IS UP. 24 THIS IS ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA, AND YOU WILL BE 25 ABLE TO -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 7 1 MS. JACKSON: OH, IT IS ON THE AGENDA. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TALK ABOUT IT LATER. 3 MS. JACKSON: OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THANK YOU. 5 TRUSTEES, I WOULD -- 6 OH, I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC 7 COMMENT? NO. 8 TRUSTEES, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO 9 TAKE AN ITEM OUT OF ORDER. AND THAT'S PART OF ITEM VIII, 10 WHICH IS SPECIAL PRESENTATION. WE HAVE TERRY OTTON, THE 11 PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CITY COLLEGE 12 FOUNDATION HERE TO GIVE US A REPORT. AND IF IT'S OKAY, WE 13 WILL TAKE UP THIS AGENDA ITEM NOW. 14 MR. OTTON, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. 15 MR. OTTON: THANK YOU FOR ADVANCING ME ON YOUR 16 AGENDA. I LIVE IN NAPA, SO IT IS A LONG COMMUTE. BUT 17 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 18 I KNOW MANY OF YOU, AND I APPRECIATE THE 19 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS CHANCE TO SPEAK TO YOU. I 20 HAVEN'T HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY BEFORE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO 21 FIRST OFF SAY THAT I AM RELATIVELY NEW TO THE FOUNDATION 22 BOARD. 23 I THINK I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR ABOUT TWO 24 YEARS AND WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT IN DECEMBER. WHEN I 25 JOINED THE BOARD, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS I WAS ELECTED OCTOBER 27, 2011 8 1 PRESIDENT, I HAD THREE GOALS. 2 ONE WAS TO GET OUR -- THE BOARDS, THE 3 FOUNDATION'S FINANCIAL AFFAIRS IN ORDER. THERE WERE 4 ISSUES OUTSTANDING CERTAINLY THE LEAST OF WHICH WAS THE 5 COMPLETION OF OUR AUDITS. AND WITHOUT THE COMPLETION OF 6 THOSE AUDITS, I THINK AS YOU ARE AWARE, YOU REALLY CAN'T 7 RAISE MONEY. AND THEY NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED. AND 8 EQUALLY IMPORTANT, ALONG WITH THAT, WAS THE RECOGNITION 9 THAT THERE WERE ASSETS OF THE SCHOOL THAT WE WERE SIMPLY 10 MANAGING AND WE WERE IN CUSTODY OF, BUT WEREN'T BE 11 PROPERLY REFLECTED. 12 AND I KNOW THAT CREATED A GREAT DEAL OF TENSION, 13 AND IT WAS A PRIORITY TO ENSURE THAT WE ADDRESSED AND 14 ACKNOWLEDGED THOSE ASSETS THAT THEY WERE PROPERLY 15 REFLECTED, AND WE GAVE THE DISTRICT THE OPPORTUNITY TO 16 DECIDE WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO WITH THAT. THAT TOOK A 17 CONSIDERABLE EFFORT. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY THAT IT 18 WAS AN EFFORT THAT TOOK MONTHS AND MONTHS. 19 AND I HAVE TO THANK JOHN BILMONT, PETER 20 GOLDSTEIN, THE CHANCELLOR, AND JOHN FOR ALL THE HARD WORK 21 THAT WAS PUT INTO THAT ON A VERY, VERY COLLABORATIVE 22 BASIS. IT WASN'T ABOUT, AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED, WHO 23 OWNED IT. IT WAS WHAT THE DONOR'S INTENTION WAS. AND WE 24 SPENT SIGNIFICANT TIME WITH OUR AUDITORS. AND WE ACHIEVED 25 THE RIGHT ANSWER. AND THAT TURNED OUT TO BE SOME OCTOBER 27, 2011 9 1 $4.7 MILLION THAT NOW IS BEING PROPERLY REFLECTED AND 2 ACCOUNTED FOR. 3 SECONDLY -- AND THAT AUDIT TODAY IS NOW 4 COMPLETE. 5 SECONDLY, I BELIEVE THAT THE RELATIONSHIP 6 BETWEEN THE FOUNDATION AND THE DISTRICT HAD TO BE REBUILT. 7 THE ELEMENT OF TRUST AND RESPECT THAT WAS DUE THE 8 DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE CREATION OF GREATER TRANSPARENCY 9 OF THE BOARD AND THE FOUNDATION'S ACTIVITIES NEEDED TO BE 10 CLEAR TO THE DISTRICT. 11 THIRDLY, I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE SATISFIED 12 OUR EXISTING COMMITMENTS TO FUNDRAISING, AS WELL AS CREATE 13 A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH THE DISTRICT IN DEFINING AND 14 IDENTIFYING PRIORITIES AND WORKING TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE 15 THOSE. 16 SO WHAT HAVE WE DONE? THE AUDITS DONE FOR 2010 17 WERE WELL ALONG WITH 2011. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE 18 ONE OF THE MOST RECENT DONATIONS WE RECEIVED, A $300,000 19 ONE, WAS PREDICATED ON THE DELIVERY OF THOSE FINANCIAL 20 STATEMENTS. AND WE CAN ACTUALLY NOW SAY THAT WE CAN GO 21 OUT AND TELL PEOPLE THOSE AUDITS ARE DONE. THE BOOKS AND 22 RECORDS ARE BEING ACCOUNTED FOR ON THE ACCOUNTING 23 PRINCIPLES REQUIRED OF NON PROFITS, WHICH WE COULDN'T SAY 24 BEFORE. SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT. THE 25 RECOGNITION OF THE $4.7 MILLION IS A SIGNIFICANT OCTOBER 27, 2011 10 1 ACHIEVEMENT. 2 AT THE SAME TIME, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 3 DISTRICT I THINK IS AS STRONG OR STRONGER THAN IT'S EVER 4 BEEN. I KNOW MANY OF YOU ON THE BOARD. WE'VE WORKED 5 TOGETHER. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER RESPECTFULLY COURTEOUSLY, 6 AND IT TRULY IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. AND THE PEOPLE ON 7 THE BOARD TODAY ARE WORKING VERY WELL. AND I CAN SAY THAT 8 THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD HERE THAT NOW I CALL 9 FRIENDS, SO I THINK THAT'S A MAJOR ACHIEVEMENT FROM WHERE 10 WE ONCE WERE. AND I THINK THE TRUST IS BEING REBUILT AND 11 THE TRANSPARENCY IS HERE. 12 AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN TERMS OF 13 RAISING MONEY, THE FIRST PRIORITY WAS A SUCCESSFUL 14 ACHIEVEMENT OF THE OSHER GRANT LED BY GENELLE RELFE. AND 15 $1.7 OR SO MILLION WAS RAISED TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT 16 AVAILABLE UNDER THAT. IT'S NOW SOME TWO-AND-A-HALF 17 MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WAS A PRIORITY WE SET OUT TO DO. 18 WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE DISTRICT IN IDENTIFYING THE 19 OTHER PRIORITIES WHICH CONSISTED OF RESTORING CLASSES, AS 20 WELL NOW AS THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS. 21 AS IT RELATES TO THE RESTORING CLASSES, YOU KNOW 22 IT'S BEEN DELAYED. I WISH I COULD SAY WE HAD DONE BETTER. 23 THERE'S SOME $300,000 RAISED BY THE KORET FOUNDATION, SOME 24 OTHER MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS. BUT IT WASN'T WHAT WE 25 ANTICIPATED. BUT, QUITE FRANKLY, WE COULDN'T GO OUT AND OCTOBER 27, 2011 11 1 DO IT UNTIL WE HAD OUR HOUSE IN ORDER WHICH IS WHERE WE 2 ARE TODAY. 3 THE BOARD TODAY CONSISTS OF 23 PEOPLE WHO ARE 4 VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY PREPARED TO RAISE MONEY. WE HAVE A 5 PLAN IN PLACE IN WHICH TO DO THAT, AS WELL AS A PLAN IN 6 PLACE TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE NEW CHINATOWN CAMPUS. 7 I WILL SAY THAT IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN -- WE 8 COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WE ARE AT TODAY IF WE 9 DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE DISTRICT, THE PEOPLE ON 10 THIS BOARD, AS WELL AS THE RELATIONSHIP WITH KATHLEEN 11 ALIOTO. SHE HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB WORKING WITH US. 12 SHE IS NOW ATTENDING OUR BOARD MEETINGS AGAIN. AND I VIEW 13 HER AS AN INSTRUMENTAL PART OF THE INTEGRATED EFFORT TO 14 RAISE MONEY ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL. 15 IN ADDITION TO THAT, MANY OF YOU KNEW JANICE 16 PETTEY-GOW. JANICE WAS HIRED AT A TIME TO HELP US GET 17 OURSELF IN ORDER. SHE SUCCESSFULLY DID THAT. SHE IS NO 18 LONGER WITH US. JUDY PROKUPEK WHO I AM SURE MANY OF YOU 19 HAVE MET WHO IS SITTING OVER HERE IS NOW OUR NEW EXECUTIVE 20 DIRECTOR WHO IS LEADING THE CHARGE TO FINDING THE 21 STRATEGY, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DILIGENTLY, WEEKLY, AND 22 AT OTHER TIMES TO CREATE AND PURSUE LARGE DONOR DONATIONS. 23 CURRENTLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROPOSALS WITH 24 CHEVRON, WELLS FARGO, GOSH -- SCHWAB AND A HOST OF OTHERS 25 IN TERMS OF MAJOR DONOR DONATION GIVING, NOT JUST FOR A OCTOBER 27, 2011 12 1 SINGLE TIME, BUT FOR ANNUITIZED-TYPE RELATIONSHIP. 2 IN ADDITION TO THAT, WALTER NEWMAN, WHO I THINK 3 MANY OF YOU KNOW, HAS DONE AN ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL JOB IN 4 BUILDING THE VETERAN'S CENTER. YOU KNOW, HE HAD RAISED 5 SOME HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN WHICH TO BUILD THAT, AS 6 WELL AS DONATIONS FROM IKEA AND OTHERS. AND IT HAPPENS TO 7 BE THE LARGEST OF ITS KIND IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM 8 IN THE COUNTRY. 9 SO GOING FORWARD, I THINK THE FOUNDATION IS IN A 10 BETTER POSITION THAN IT'S BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 11 OUR AFFAIRS ARE IN ORDER. THE TRUST IS BEING REBUILT WITH 12 THE DISTRICT. THE TRANSPARENCY OF WHAT WE DO, AND HOW WE 13 INTERACT WITH YOU HAS DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED. AND THE 14 COLLABORATION BETWEEN OURSELVES AND THE DISTRICT IN 15 IDENTIFYING PRIORITIES AND SETTING GOALS AND EXECUTING 16 THAT TO ACHIEVE THAT, I THINK IS THE STRONGEST IT'S EVER 17 BEEN. 18 AND AS DISAPPOINTED AS I MAY BE THAT WE HAVEN'T 19 RAISED MORE MONEY YET FOR RESTORING CLASSES, I THINK IT 20 TOOK TIME TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE. AND EVERYBODY HAS 21 WORKED EXTREMELY HARD ON THAT, BUT WE ARE VERY PROUD OF 22 WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED. AND THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD 23 TODAY IS VERY STRONG. 24 IN FACT WE ARE BRINGING ON A BRAND NEW BOARD 25 MEMBER WHO IS VERY INFLUENTIAL IN THE CHINESE COMMUNITY OCTOBER 27, 2011 13 1 WHICH WILL GO A LONG WAYS IN RAISING FUNDS FOR THAT 2 CAMPUS. 3 SO I THINK I WOULD CLOSE IN SAYING THAT I DON'T 4 THINK THE BOARD HAS EVER BEEN AS COMMITTED AS WE ARE 5 TODAY. IT IS VERY ORGANIZED. IT'S DISCIPLINED. AND 6 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH YOU. 7 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: QUESTIONS, TRUSTEES. 9 MR. OTTON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 I JUST WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAID. 12 YOU KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO, THERE WERE SOME HEATED 13 DISCUSSIONS HERE AT THIS BOARD, IF YOU REMEMBER, ABOUT THE 14 FOUNDATION. AND WE HAD GONE THROUGH A PROCESS OF COMING 15 UP WITH A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING. AND THAT WAS 16 REALLY THE BEGINNING OF THIS GREAT NEW RELATIONSHIP THAT 17 WE HAVE WITH THE FOUNDATION. 18 THE MOU WAS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE WAS HAPPY 19 WITH. AFTER WE SIGNED IT, WE WERE BOTH -- THE FOUNDATION 20 AND CITY COLLEGE WERE ON A MUCH BETTER FOOTING WITH EACH 21 OTHER. BUT WHEN MR. OTTON CAME IN, HE JUST REALLY TOOK 22 THE BULL BY THE HORNS AND REORGANIZED THE FOUNDATION AND 23 SET GOALS AND MET THOSE GOALS. AND IT'S JUST BEEN VERY 24 IMPRESSIVE. HE CARES ABOUT THE STUDENTS. HE SAYS THIS 25 ALL THE TIME, HOW IMPORTANT THE STUDENTS OF CITY COLLEGE OCTOBER 27, 2011 14 1 ARE, AND I THINK WE ALL REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 2 SO I JUST WANTED TO -- 3 MR. OTTON: THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THANK YOU. AND I AM VERY 5 GLAD THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER. 6 MR. OTTON: THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 OUR NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 9 CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE 10 MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING? 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO MOVED. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER; 14 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 15 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 16 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MINUTES? 17 OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 15 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 OKAY, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 3 THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTIONS 4 AGENDA. 5 COUNSEL, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS TO THE 6 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA? 7 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE 8 ARE. 9 AS TO REVISED RESOLUTIONS THERE'S G1-13, 10 ACADEMIC EMPLOYEES (FACULTY) CREDIT PROGRAM/NON-CREDIT 11 DISTRICT FUNDED CITY COLLEGE TEMPORARY HOURLY ASSIGNMENTS. 12 THERE'S H1-3, WHICH IS THE ACADEMIC EMPLOYEES 13 (FACULTY) CREDIT/NON-CREDIT PROGRAM, CATEGORICALLY FUNDED, 14 TEMPORARY HOURLY ASSIGNMENTS. 15 THERE'S S6, WHICH IS THE ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF 16 FACTS AND CONCLUSIONS OF THE HEARING OFFICER AND THE 17 RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHANCELLOR FOR EXPULSION OF STUDENT 18 NUMBER W99153XXX. 19 AND I MIGHT ALSO ADD, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT THE 20 DEAN OF STUDENTS WAS ERRONEOUSLY NAMED -- HER TITLE WAS 21 MISNAMED IN THE RESOLUTION. IT SHOULD BE THE "DEAN OF 22 STUDENTS." I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. 23 AND AS TO ADDED RESOLUTIONS, THERE'S F1, 24 REASSIGNMENT OF ADMINISTRATOR VICE CHANCELLOR ACADEMIC 25 AFFAIRS TO DEAN OF EVANS CAMPUS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 16 1 AS TO SUBSTITUTED RESOLUTIONS, THERE ARE NONE AT 2 THIS TIME. 3 AS TO WITHDRAWN RESOLUTIONS, THERE ARE NONE AT 4 THIS TIME. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS 7 AGENDA? 8 TRUSTEE WONG: SO MOVED. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE WONG; 11 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 12 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 13 PUBLIC COMMENT? 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY 17 "AYE." 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? OCTOBER 27, 2011 17 1 OKAY, THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA IS ADOPTED. 2 WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AGENDA AT 3 THIS POINT. 4 ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANYONE ON THE BOARD 5 WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE OR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE 6 TO REMOVE FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: S1, PLEASE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S1, OKAY. S1 IS REMOVED. 9 I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE G1-13 FROM THE CONSENT 10 CALENDAR. 11 ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE ARE ONLY PULLING CONSENT 15 ITEMS, IS THAT CORRECT? 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE PULLING CONSENT ITEMS, 17 RIGHT. 18 OKAY, IF THERE'S NO OTHERS, WE WILL MOVE ON TO 19 VOTING FOR CONSENT ITEMS. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: I HAVE A QUESTION -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- PRESIDENT RIZZO. SORRY ABOUT 23 THAT. 24 THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED OF ME IN TERMS OF THE 25 EVANS CAMPUS. WHICH ITEM IS THAT? OCTOBER 27, 2011 18 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THAT F1? 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: F1. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F1. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY, WE HAVE -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS NOT A CONSENT ITEM. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE HAVE A SPEAKER'S CARD FOR IT, 7 AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER OR DO I HAVE TO 8 WAIT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO -- 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- THE CONSENT. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THE CONSENT. YEAH, I HAVE 12 CARDS FOR A FEW ITEMS F1 AND S5. SO WE WILL TAKE THOSE 13 AFTER WE DO THE CONSENT IF THAT'S OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: THAT'S FINE, YES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 16 ALL RIGHT. SO THE B RESOLUTIONS, CAPITAL 17 OUTLAY. 18 DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR B1, B2(A), AND B3? 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO MOVED. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER; 22 SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 23 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 24 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 19 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 8 OKAY, B1, B2(A), B3 ARE APPROVED. 9 NOW WE HAVE GRANTS AND CONTRACTS, B4 AND B5. 10 IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? 11 TRUSTEE BERG: I MOVE TO APPROVE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 15 TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF B4 AND 18 B5, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 20 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 OKAY, B4 AND B5 ARE ADOPTED. 3 THE C RESOLUTIONS, EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES AND 4 SERVICES. C1 AND C2. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO MOVED. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: THOSE WERE NOT -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: C1 AND C2 ARE. 9 IS THERE A SECOND? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECOND FROM TRUSTEE BERG. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE PLEASE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 23 C1 AND C2 ARE APPROVED. 24 WE HAVE THE H RESOLUTIONS, THE HUMAN RESOURCES, 25 H1-3, AND N1-N2. OCTOBER 27, 2011 21 1 IS THERE A MOTION? 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO MOVED. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY -- 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TRUSTEE GRIER; SECONDED BY 6 TRUSTEE FANG. 7 TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 18 H1-3, N1-N2 ARE APPROVED. 19 AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T THINK SO. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO, S1. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S1 WAS TAKEN OFF. I THINK 23 THAT'S IT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. THANK YOU. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAD A OCTOBER 27, 2011 22 1 REQUEST TO TAKE A COUPLE OF ITEMS OUT OF ORDER. F1 AND 2 S5. 3 SO WHY DON'T WE GO TO F1, FIRST. 4 COUNSEL, WOULD YOU MIND READING F1, THE TITLE. 5 COUNSEL BATTISTE: SORRY. F1, MR. PRESIDENT? 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, THANK YOU. 7 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, OKAY. 8 F1 IS HUMAN RESOURCES REASSIGNMENT OF 9 ADMINISTRATOR VICE CHANCELLOR ACADEMIC AFFAIRS TO DEAN OF 10 EVANS CAMPUS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR 12 F1? 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO MOVED. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 15 IS THERE A SECOND? 16 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 18 IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON F1? 19 NO DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD. 20 IS THERE DISCUSSION, TRUSTEE MARKS? 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: DOES THIS REQUIRE A -- THIS IS 22 F1? IS THIS F1? 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F1, YES. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: DOES THIS REQUIRE A DISCLOSURE 25 OF -- DOES THIS REQUIRE A DISCLOSURE OF -- I'D LIKE A OCTOBER 27, 2011 23 1 DISCLOSURE OF THE ACTUAL SALARY. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, A SALARY OF THIS POSITION? 3 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OF F1? 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE SALARY IS UNCHANGED. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT 7 IS. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE SALARY -- I WOULD HAVE 9 TO LOOK AT THE SALARY SCHEDULE. 10 PETER -- BUT I BELIEVE I COULD GIVE A NUMBER. 11 IT COULD BE OFF, BUT I THINK IT'S 191. 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S APPROXIMATE. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: 191. 14 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: APPROXIMATELY. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JUST FOR POINT OF 17 INFORMATION. WHAT'S THE TYPICAL SALARY OF A DEAN OF THE 18 CAMPUS? 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE TOP SALARY OF A DEAN OF 20 A CAMPUS IS $175,300. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER 22 DISCUSSION? 23 NO? 24 OKAY, I HAVE A CARD FOR F1. INGRID WYNN. 25 PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ARE MOVING TO PUBLIC COMMENT NOW. OCTOBER 27, 2011 24 1 MS. WYNN: HI, MY NAME IS INGRID WYNN, AND I AM 2 THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE EVANS CAMPUS. 3 MY CONCERN WITH F1 IS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF 4 MONTHS OUR SCHOOL HAS PROSPERED. IT WAS ABLE TO MOVE 5 FORWARD. WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH ACTUALLY HAVING A 6 SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAM. AND THIS YEAR WE HAD A SUMMER 7 SCHOOL PROGRAM. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN EIGHT YEARS, AND 8 IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. AND IT WAS DONE AT THE LAST 9 MINUTE. 10 BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MANY STUDENTS WHO 11 ARE GRATEFUL, SO I THINK EVERYBODY WHO WORKED IN THAT 12 ASPECT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENED. 13 ONE OF THE THINGS MOVING FORWARD IS THAT AS OUR 14 SCHOOL HAS PROSPERED, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT I KNOW 15 FROM A STUDENT PERSPECTIVE AS ONE OF THE ELECTED 16 REPRESENTATIVES THAT WE DO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD 17 MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS WHO COMES UP INTO THE CAMPUS, 18 REGARDLESS OF THE POSITION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP, 19 WE TALK ABOUT ROLE. 20 I AM SUPPORTING THE CHANCELLOR'S DECISION, BUT I 21 FEEL THE NEED TO SPEAK ON THIS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT 22 WHEN I SAY, WE DO MOVE FORWARD, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY 23 EMPHASIZED THAT WE DON'T NEED ANY TYPE OF ROADBLOCKS FROM 24 HAVING THINGS AS FAR AS NEXT MONTH. WE ARE LOOKING AT 25 HAVING A JOB FAIR. WE WORKED WITH VICE CHANCELLOR BELL OCTOBER 27, 2011 25 1 AND HE SAID, YES, WE CAN DO THAT. 2 WE KNOW THE ECONOMY IS BAD. WE KNOW THERE'S A 3 LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, BUT WE JUST NEED THAT SUPPORT AS 4 FAR AS SAYING POSITIVE THINGS, THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO 5 HELP US GROW. THIS IS A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL. TO HAVE THAT 6 TYPE OF LEADERSHIP TO MOVE FORWARD IS SOMETHING THAT WE 7 NEED. 8 AND WHATEVER THAT TAKES TO SUPPORT THE CAMPUS, 9 THE CHANCELLOR, AND THE BOARD, AS WELL AS THE EVANS 10 CAMPUS, I WANT THAT TO BE TAKEN INTO -- SERIOUS 11 CONSIDERATION. 12 AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS I WOULD LIKE 13 TO SAY, BUT AS FOR RIGHT NOW, MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, 14 THINGS ARE WHAT THEY ARE. IF I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE 15 CHANCELLOR AND HIS DECISION AND THE BOARD BEHIND IT, THEN 16 THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. SO WE ARE WILLING TO WORK 17 WITH WHOEVER IS ON THE TABLE. 18 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 19 MS. WYNN: BUT JUST TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT, YOU 20 KNOW, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 22 I HAVE ANOTHER CARD FROM ESPANOLA JACKSON. 23 MS. JACKSON: GOOD AFTERNOON. ESPANOLA JACKSON, 24 BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. 25 I AM SUPPORTING THE CHANCELLOR'S DECISION OCTOBER 27, 2011 26 1 TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN THE CAMPUS 2 WAS OPENED IN THE 90'S, WHOMEVER WAS GOING TO BECOME THE 3 DEAN OF THE COLLEGE, EVEN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I WAS 4 ON A COMMITTEE EVEN HERE WHEN THE FIRST BLACK CHANCELLOR 5 WAS SELECTED. AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE SAME THING TO 6 HAPPEN AT THE EVANS CAMPUS, AS WELL AS THE SOUTHEAST 7 FACILITY CAMPUS. IF YOU HAVE NAMES OF FOLKS, THEY SHOULD 8 COME TO THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO 9 ASK QUESTIONS OF THAT PERSON SO THAT WE WOULD KNOW THAT WE 10 WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM, AND THEY WOULD BE DOING 11 THE BEST, YOU KNOW, FOR THE STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE 12 COMING INTO THE CAMPUSES. 13 I LOVE MY COMMUNITY VERY MUCH. AND I KNOW THAT 14 THE CHANCELLOR IS GOING TO DO THE BEST THAT HE CAN TO MAKE 15 SURE THAT THE RIGHT THINGS HAPPEN. AND I HAVE STATED TO 16 THE CHANCELLOR, I DON'T WANT TO GET NO PHONE CALLS IN THE 17 NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. BUT IF IT DOES HAPPEN, YOU 18 WILL BE HEARING FROM ME, WHOEVER THAT DEAN, WHOEVER THAT 19 DEAN IS, YOU KNOW, I WILL BE BEFORE YOU. THANK YOU VERY 20 MUCH. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 IS THERE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS 23 ITEM? 24 OKAY, SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER. OCTOBER 27, 2011 27 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 2 I WANTED TO THANK INGRID BELL (SIC) FOR COMING 3 OUT AND JUST GIVING US SOME BACKGROUND, SOME HISTORY ABOUT 4 WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THAT CAMPUS. WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS A 5 LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT POSITIVE THERE, BUT I'M GLAD 6 YOU TOOK THE HIGH ROAD AND TALKED ABOUT THE POSITIVE EVENT 7 AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE CHANCELLOR, THE 8 COMMUNITY TO GO FORWARD. VERY POSITIVE, AND I JUST WANT 9 TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT A GOOD JOB YOU'VE BEEN DOING OVER 10 THERE AS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENTS. 11 AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK MOTHER JACKSON FOR 12 COMING OUT AS WELL. WE DO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT 13 HAPPENED AT THE PUC MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE LINK 14 THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE MEETING. FOR SOME 15 REASON, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE PUC MEETING. I DIDN'T GET 16 TO GO TO THAT ONE. BUT I WENT TO THE ONE THAT HAPPENED 17 DURING THE SUMMER. SO GETTING THE LINK WOULD BE VERY 18 HELPFUL. 19 AND JUST TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW 20 THAT THE CHANCELLOR IS WORKING VERY HARD AT HIS LEVEL IN 21 TERMS OF MEETING WITH THOSE WHO WANT TO SUPPORT THE 22 COLLEGE AND MOVE IT FORWARD AS WELL, AND SO I JUST WANT TO 23 THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO 24 WORKING WITH YOU IN THAT ERA. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. OCTOBER 27, 2011 28 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND TRUSTEE GRIER 3 LITERALLY TOOK MOST OF THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH. 4 I ACTUALLY REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU, INGRID. 5 YOU -- I SOMETIMES CALL YOU THE ENFORCER AT EVANS CAMPUS 6 AND SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, FOR REALLY HOLDING THIS 7 INSTITUTION ACCOUNTABLE ENSURING THAT, YOU KNOW, EVANS 8 CAMPUS AND SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, GET ALL THE SUPPORT 9 THAT THEY NEED EVEN IN THESE REALLY TOUGH ECONOMIC TIMES 10 WHEN RESOURCES ARE SO SCARCE, AND WE ARE TAKING AWAY FROM 11 SOME MANY OTHER VERY WORTHY, YOU KNOW, AREAS. 12 I ALSO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THANK MS. JACKSON, WHO 13 IS THE GREAT-GRANDMOTHER OF BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT FOR 14 BRINGING, YOU KNOW, THESE ISSUES AND FOR REALLY SUPPORTING 15 US AND SUPPORTING THE CHANCELLOR AND FOR ALSO, YOU KNOW, 16 HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE. 17 AND IF WE AS AN INSTITUTION, YOU KNOW, ALL HOLD 18 OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AS MS. JACKSON AND INGRID HOLD US 19 ACCOUNTABLE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL DEFINITELY MOVE FORWARD. 20 SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT. 21 AND I AM SURE -- I'LL BE ONE OF THE FIRST FOLKS THAT 22 MS. JACKSON CALLS IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN AT EVANS 23 CAMPUS. SO, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS HAVE THIS CELL PHONE ON 24 FOR HER. 25 BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT OCTOBER 27, 2011 29 1 AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY EXPRESSING YOUR SUPPORT AND THE 2 ACCOUNTABILITY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT, YOU KNOW, EVANS 3 CAMPUS, SO THANK YOU. AND I WILL DEFINITELY BE IN 4 SUPPORT -- I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION. AND I 5 WILL CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT 6 EVANS CAMPUS CONTINUES TO THRIVE AND BE A CAMPUS THAT 7 PROVIDES THAT COMMUNITY AND SAN FRANCISCO WITH JOBS 8 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT CAMPUS IS FOR. THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 10 TRUSTEE WONG. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE TO 12 PASS UP THIS OPPORTUNITY -- FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU INGRID 13 AND YOUR STYLE. 14 ESPANOLA, I'VE KNOWN HER -- I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR 15 AT LEAST 20 YEARS. AND YOU ARE LEGENDARY. AND WHENEVER 16 YOU SPEAK, THE CITY LISTENS. THEY BETTER LISTEN. 17 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW HONORED WE ARE TO HAVE 18 YOU COME BEFORE US. AND I KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T DO RIGHT, 19 YOU HAVE A LOT OF FIRE POWER. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, 20 ESPANOLA. 21 MS. JACKSON: THANK YOU. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: TWENTY YEARS AT LEAST WE'VE KNOWN 23 EACH OTHER. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OCTOBER 27, 2011 30 1 OKAY, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): DUE TO MY LACK 4 OF KNOWLEDGE IN THIS MATTER, I WILL ABSTAIN. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THAT'S FAIR. 6 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 15 OKAY, F1 IS APPROVED. 16 SO WE WILL NOW TAKE, WITH THE BOARD'S 17 INDULGENCE, S5 OUT OF ORDER. 18 COUNSEL, PLEASE TELL US WHAT S5 IS. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S5 IS A 20 SPECIAL RESOLUTION, CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF 21 TRUSTEES OPPOSES THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES 22 COMMISSION'S SOUTHEAST FACILITIES PLAN. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR 24 S5? 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO MOVED. OCTOBER 27, 2011 31 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON; 3 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER: 4 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I KNOW FOLKS AND STAFF 6 AND ADMINISTRATORS AND FACULTY MEMBERS HAD A PRESENTATION. 7 I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE STILL GOING TO DO THE 8 PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS REALLY KIND OF JUST PIGGYBACKING 9 OFF OF, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTS WE JUST MADE IN TERMS OF, 10 YOU KNOW, HOLDING, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ACCOUNTABLE. WE 11 OFTENTIMES TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 12 CITY. AND THERE'S A LOT OF UNATTENDED COSTS, YOU KNOW, IN 13 TERMS OF WORKING WITH THE CITY. AND OFTENTIMES, WE GET 14 THE SHORT END OF THE STICK. 15 AND SO IN JUNE, WE WERE PRESENTED WITH A PLAN 16 FROM THE PUC, AND THEY OFFERED US A LOT. THEY OFFERED TO 17 PAY FOR CLASSES, WHICH WE DESPERATELY WANTED. THEY 18 OFFERED TO PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO 19 AND FROM THE CAMPUS. THEY OFFERED, YOU KNOW, TO PAY FOR 20 SECURITY. THEY OFFERED TO MAKE A LOT OF FACADE 21 IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT CAMPUS AS WELL. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY 22 HAD US ALL BELIEVING, YOU KNOW. 23 AND SOMETHING IN MY MIND SAID THIS IS TOO GOOD 24 TO BE TRUE. AND LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE CITY 25 HAVE DONE, THEY PULLED BACK. AND THEY BROKE THEIR OCTOBER 27, 2011 32 1 PROMISE. 2 AND WHEN WE SAT DOWN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE 3 VERY RUDE TO OUR FACULTY, VERY RUDE TO OUR STAFF AND 4 ADMINISTRATORS. AND IT CAME TO A POINT WHERE THEY 5 LITERALLY SAID, YOU GUYS ARE MONTH TO MONTH AT THE 6 SOUTHEAST CAM -- AT THE SOUTHEAST FACILITY. WE COULD MOVE 7 YOU ANY TIME YOU WANT. 8 WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IS MOVE US FROM OUR 9 CURRENT SPACE. AND THEY WANT TO MOVE US TO THE 4TH FLOOR 10 OF THE SOUTHEAST FACILITY. AND THEIR PLAN IS TO PUT IN 11 HSA, HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY, WHICH IS BASICALLY CALWORKS 12 INTO THE SOUTHEAST FACILITY. 13 AND I TOLD THEM -- WE TOLD THEM OF THE VISION. 14 WE WANT TO HAVE CULINARY CLASSES. WE WANTED TO HAVE 15 MEDICAL SERVICES AND NURSING CLASSES. WE WANTED TO HAVE, 16 YOU KNOW, ESL CLASSES FOR THE NEW POPULATION THAT'S MOVING 17 IN. WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR GED CLASSES IN THE COMMUNITY. 18 AND WE WANT THE BASIC SKILLS CLASSES. WE WANT A COMMUNITY 19 COLLEGE THAT REALLY GETS PEOPLE PREPARED FOR ALL THE 20 OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING TO THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY 21 AND REALLY MEETS THE NEEDS. THE COMMUNITY TOLD US VERY 22 CLEAR WHEN WE MET WITH THEM THAT THEY WANT A CAMPUS THAT 23 MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. 24 AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PUC PULLED BACK ON THAT 25 PROMISE. AND THIS -- AND THAT NECESSITATES THIS OCTOBER 27, 2011 33 1 RESOLUTION TO SAY, WE CAN'T BE REGULATED TO THE 4TH FLOOR. 2 AND WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO PUT, YOU KNOW, CALWORKS, YOU 3 KNOW, IN THE SOUTHEAST FACILITY. WE ARE BETTER THAN JUST 4 BEING ON WELFARE. WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO SCHOOL, GET 5 EDUCATED, AND FROM THERE, BUILD OUR CAREERS AND BUILD OUR 6 LIVES AND TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES. 7 AND SO, YOU KNOW, FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, WE 8 WORKED WITH A LOT OF FOLKS TO BUILD THIS RESOLUTION. AND 9 THIS IS JUST A START. AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. 10 SO I AM GOING TO LET MY COLLEAGUE, TRUSTEE 11 GRIER, CONTINUE FROM WHERE I AM BECAUSE SHE'S HAD SUCH AN 12 EXTENSIVE HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS AS 13 WELL. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER, BEFORE YOU 15 START, COULD YOU GIVE ME AS PART OF YOUR COMMENTS TALK 16 ABOUT WHAT THE PUC HAS PROPOSED WHICH IS PART OF THIS 17 RESOLUTION I THINK. SO GIVE PEOPLE A BACKGROUND. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL YOUR 21 ATTENTION TO IS S5. THE RESOLUTION, THE SUBJECT IS: CITY 22 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF TRUSTEES OPPOSES THE SAN 23 FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION SOUTHEAST FACILITIES 24 PLAN. 25 IN A NUTSHELL, THE PLAN, IF WE LOOK AT THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 34 1 WHEREASES, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING TRANSITIONAL 2 STUDIES, EXPANDING THE BRIDGE TO BIOTECH, EXPANDING BASIC 3 SKILLS CLASSES, EXPANDING OR REALLY SUPPORTING THE CHILD 4 DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, ESTABLISHING A CULINARY ARTS AND 5 HOSPITALITY PROGRAM. LOOKING AT THE DIVERSE COMMUNITY AT 6 THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, WE WERE GOING TO EXPAND THE ESL 7 CLASSES AND THAT WAS ALL BASED ON NEED. WE ALSO LOOKED AT 8 THE NURSING PROGRAM OVER THERE. AND WE WERE GOING TO 9 EXPAND THAT AS WELL. 10 AND SO THIS WASN'T JUST A DREAM OF THE BOARD OF 11 TRUSTEES. IT WAS A DREAM OF THE COMMUNITY. AND IT WAS A 12 COLLABORATION WITH THE PUC. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MOST 13 OF THE SUMMER, THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER, GETTING THIS 14 PLAN IN PLACE. 15 WE ALSO AGREED TO DELIVER DIFFERENT TYPES OF 16 CLASSES BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY SAYS, WE WANT CLASSES THERE 17 THAT ARE NOT OFFERED NOW. WE WANT CLASSES TOWARD A 18 TWO-YEAR DEGREE. WE WANT CLASSES THAT WILL PRODUCE A 19 CERTIFICATE AT THE END OF A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. AND 20 SO SOUTHEAST WAS NOT THAT PLACE TO GO. AND MOST OF THE 21 STUDENTS HAD TO COME OVER TO THE OCEAN CAMPUS. SOME OF 22 THEM HAD TO GO TO THE MISSION CAMPUS, BUT THEY COULDN'T 23 GET WHAT THEY NEEDED AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 24 SO IMAGINE OUR SURPRISE WHEN THE CHANCELLOR TOLD 25 US THAT HE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE PUC THAT SAID, IF WE OCTOBER 27, 2011 35 1 LOOK AT THE WHEREAS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE -- WHEREAS 2 SIX, THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION HAS 3 PROPOSED TO SHRINK THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS FOOTPRINT TO THE 4 4TH FLOOR OF THE SOUTHEAST FACILITY. WE WERE ALL IN 5 SHOCK. WE WERE ALL DEVASTATED. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT 6 HAPPENED TO THE BIG PLAN. 7 AND I DON'T KNOW IF VICE CHANCELLOR BELL -- 8 ARE YOU GOING TO -- YOUR PRESENTATION IS WHAT 9 EXACTLY? 10 AVC BELL: YEAH, BASICALLY. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: I KNOW YOU WEREN'T PREPARED FOR 12 THIS, BUT IT'S IMPROMPTU. 13 AVC BELL: YEAH, MY NAME IS JORGE BELL, VICE 14 CHANCELLOR OF CAMPUS AND ENROLLMENT SERVICES. 15 YES, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION 16 REGARDING THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS FACILITIES. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY, IS YOUR PRESENTATION THE 18 PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED BEFORE WE WROTE THIS RESOLUTION 19 THAT SAYS THAT WE ARE NOT AGREEING TO GOING TO THE 4TH 20 FLOOR AND DROPPING ALL OUR HOPES AND DREAMS AND NOT GOING 21 FORWARD WITH OUR PLAN? 22 AVC BELL: YES, PART OF THE PRESENTATION COVERS 23 THAT POINT. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE PLAN -- 25 AVC BELL: SURE. THANK YOU. OCTOBER 27, 2011 36 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- OF THE PRESENTATION. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD 3 TAKE? 4 AVC BELL: I WOULD SAY ABOUT 20 MINUTES AT THE 5 MOST. I HAVE A TEAM OF THREE PEOPLE WHO WILL HELP ME WITH 6 THE PRESENTATION. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE HAVE A TRUSTEE WHO 8 NEEDS TO LEAVE, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA. 9 SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS RESOLUTION, GO TO THAT OTHER 10 ITEM, AND THEN COME BACK TO DEAN BELL? 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES. YES. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OF COURSE, WE WILL DO THE 13 SPEAKERS. 14 AVC BELL: THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I JUST CLARIFY? 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: ARE YOU SAYING WE ARE GOING TO 19 VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION WITHOUT HEARING THE PRESENTATION? 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WANT TO DO ANOTHER AGENDA 21 ITEM. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE JUST -- 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE ARE GOING TO DROP IT. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, I KNOW. I AM JUST SAYING IT OCTOBER 27, 2011 37 1 KIND OF -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS BEFORE I 2 VOTE "YES" OR "NO" ON THIS RESOLUTION. SO I THINK THIS 3 PRESENTATION IS MOSTLY MOOT IF WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON 4 THIS BEFORE HE PRESENTS. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: SORRY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S NOT A VERY FULLY INFORMED 7 DECISION WE ARE MAKING. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO 8 THAT, THAT'S FINE. I AM JUST TELLING YOU THAT I DON'T 9 FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING "YES" OR "NO" NOT KNOWING WHAT THE 10 DETAILS OF THE PLAN ARE. MAYBE THIS SHOULD HAVE GONE TO 11 FACILITIES FIRST, BUT I -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS. 13 WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT THIS ASIDE FOR A FEW MINUTES AND GO 14 TO ANOTHER ITEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A TRUSTEE WHO NEEDS TO 15 LEAVE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: THE MOTION HAS TO BE WITHDRAWN. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN WE WITHDRAW THE MOTION? 18 TRUSTEE WONG: WE'LL NEED TO REINTRODUCE BECAUSE 19 IT'S ON THE TABLE NOW. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, JUST FOR A FEW MINUTES. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I'M SORRY. WHAT WERE YOU 22 SAYING? 23 MR. TETI: YOU DON'T HAVE TO WITHDRAW IT. JUST 24 POSTPONE IT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WE WILL JUST POSTPONE OCTOBER 27, 2011 38 1 IT. OKAY, WE WILL POSTPONE THIS UNTIL ONE ITEM. WE WANT 2 TO TAKE UP THE ITEM VII, UPDATE ON ACCREDITATION. 3 YES, PLEASE. 4 DEAN MURILLO: GOOD EVENING. I AM ALICE 5 MURILLO, CO-CHAIR -- ADMINISTRATIVE CO-CHAIR OF THE 6 ACCREDITATION STEERING COMMITTEE, ALONG WITH FACULTY 7 CO-CHAIR KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE PRESIDENT. 8 WE ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE 9 ACCREDITATION SELF-STUDY PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING 10 ON FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS. WE HAVE BEEN DILIGENTLY 11 WORKING WITH THE COOPERATION AND SUPPORT OF ALL THE 12 CONSTITUENCY GROUPS OF THE CAMPUS, GATHERING INFORMATION 13 SO THAT WE COULD PRESENT TO THE WASC COMMISSION WHERE WE 14 STAND IN TERMS OF AN INSTITUTION. 15 ACCREDITATION IS CRITICAL FOR US AS AN 16 INSTITUTION BECAUSE WITHOUT ACCREDITATION, OUR STUDENTS 17 WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR FINANCIAL AID. AND WITHOUT 18 ACCREDITATION, OUR STUDENTS COULD NOT TRANSFER THEIR UNITS 19 TO OTHER INSTITUTIONS. 20 THE LATEST DRAFT OF SEPTEMBER 1ST WAS 21 DISTRIBUTED TO THE COLLEGE CAMPUS. AND WE HAD ALL THE 22 CONSTITUENTS RESPOND AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK. AND A 23 SUB-COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, THE 24 INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS, TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, ALL OF 25 WHICH WAS INCORPORATED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 39 1 WHAT WE DID TAKE BACK WAS SPECIFIC DETAILS, 2 CLARIFICATIONS, UPDATES TO EACH OF THE SECTIONS WITHIN THE 3 CONTEXT OF THE -- TABLE OF CONTENTS -- EXCUSE ME. WE TOOK 4 FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD. AND WE REORDERED THE ITEMS TO 5 MAKE THEM FLOW MORE LOGICALLY. SO ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS 6 SELF-IDENTIFIED OR WASC IDENTIFIED WERE ALL INCORPORATED 7 TOGETHER. 8 WE ALSO MADE SURE THAT THE RESEARCH PART WAS 9 EXPANDED TO REFLECT THE DATA THAT YOU ALL WANTED. AND WE 10 ALSO ORGANIZED IT SO IT FLOWED BETTER IN TERMS OF THE 11 ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN OF THE COMMUNITY, THE COLLEGE PROFILE, 12 AND THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT DATA. 13 WE HAVE NOW THE CO-CHAIRS WHO WILL BE TAKING A 14 MOMENT TO KIND OF GIVE AN INTRODUCTION, A SHORT 15 INTRODUCTION OF WHERE WE STAND WITH EACH OF THE FOUR 16 STANDARDS AND WHERE WE SEE OUR PLANNING AGENDAS IN TERMS 17 OF THE NEXT CYCLE FOR OUR INSTITUTION. SO EACH OF THE 18 CO-CHAIRS WILL BE OFFERING SOME INFORMATION. 19 THE FRONT MATTER WHICH IS PAGES 1-109 REPRESENTS 20 THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN THAT DESCRIBES OUR COMMUNITY, OUR 21 COLLEGE, AND OUR STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. IT DESCRIBES WHERE 22 WE STAND IN TERMS OF PROGRAM REVIEW, INTERGRADING IT WITH 23 PLANNING AND THE BUDGETING PROCESS. AND IT ALSO REFLECTS 24 ON OUR PROGRESS ON THOSE SELF-IDENTIFIED AND WASC 25 IDENTIFIED INITIATIVES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 40 1 SO BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE STANDARDS, DO YOU HAVE 2 ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THOSE 3 SECTIONS? 4 I SEE A LOOK -- AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD 5 HAVE RECEIVED THE REPORT AS OF THE 20TH OF OCTOBER. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: BY E-MAIL OR -- 7 DEAN MURILLO: YES. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO WE HAVE IT HERE? 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: I DON'T HAVE IT. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S NOT IN YOUR PACKET. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: WE HAVE NOT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT 12 THE LATEST DRAFT IS. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. IT'S NOT IN YOUR 14 PACKET. IT'S ALMOST A 400 PAGE DOCUMENT. IT'S ONLINE I 15 BELIEVE. 16 MS. SAGINOR: IT'S ON THE WEB. AND THE LINKS 17 WERE E-MAILED TO YOU. BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE THINGS 18 CHANGING SO MUCH AND BECAUSE OF TRYING TO BE SUSTAINABLE, 19 IT WAS NOT PRINTED. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN -- THE FORM IN 20 WHICH IT WAS PUT UP ONLINE AND THE LINK SENT TO YOU WAS A 21 COMPARATIVE DOCUMENT SHOWING THE SEPTEMBER 1ST COMPARED TO 22 NOW SO THAT WOULD HAVE MADE IT LIKE 600 PAGES. AND, OF 23 COURSE, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO CREATE COPIES FOR YOU AND FOR 24 EVERYBODY HERE. SO INSTEAD OF DESTROYING ALL THAT PAPER, 25 WE PUT THE LINKS UP ONLINE. AND THOSE WERE E-MAILED TO OCTOBER 27, 2011 41 1 YOU. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT -- YOU ARE 3 TALKING ABOUT OUR ACCREDITATION. 4 MS. SAGINOR: RIGHT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FINANCIAL 6 AID AND TRANSFERABILITY AT RISK, AND WE CAN'T HAVE HARD 7 COPIES AT LEAST FOR THE BOARD TO LOOK AT TONIGHT. 8 MS. SAGINOR: PRESIDENT RIZZO, I -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND THE SUSTAINABILITY 10 ARGUMENT. I'M JUST SAYING ITS -- 11 MS. SAGINOR: THE WAY IN WHICH WE DID IT -- I 12 WAS NOT THE ONE WHO MADE THE DECISION. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND THAT. 14 MS. SAGINOR: I AM JUST EXPLAINING IT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M NOT -- BUT YOUR RATIONALE 16 DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME SO -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE IT HERE IF YOU WANT TO 18 LOOK AT IT. 19 DEAN MURILLO: SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS TELL US 20 HOW TO PROCEED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANT FEEDBACK. AND IF 21 YOU HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO A COPY, THEN THAT IS -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I ASK WHAT ARE YOU ASKING THE 23 BOARD TO DO TONIGHT? DO YOU WANT US TO APPROVE THE 24 LANGUAGE AS IT'S WRITTEN THAT YOU -- 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. OCTOBER 27, 2011 42 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AND THE DRAFT THAT YOU HAVE ON 2 THE WEB? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. NO, LET ME -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET ME ANSWER THAT. 6 WE -- I WANTED TO GIVE THE BOARD A CHANCE TO 7 LOOK AT IT, TO DISCUSS IT, TO RAISE QUESTIONS IF THEY HAD 8 ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE A VOTE. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A 9 VOTE. 10 I THINK WE ARE GOING TO NEED A SPECIAL MEETING? 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, WE WILL. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: A SPECIAL MEETING TO VOTE ON 13 IT, BUT I WANTED TO BEFORE -- RATHER THAN JUST HAVE IT 14 COME TO US, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT, I WANTED TO HAVE A 15 DISCUSSION IF ANYONE WANTED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION FIRST. 16 SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW. 17 ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS, ABOUT WHAT WE 18 ARE DOING, WE CAN ASK THAT NOW. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I ASK YOU THEN ABOUT THE TIME 20 LINE BECAUSE I THOUGHT I REMEMBER SOMEONE SAYING THAT IT 21 WAS GOING TO GO TO PRINT BY HALLOWEEN, AND I DON'T 22 THINK -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 24 DEAN MURILLO: NO. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 43 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: HAS THAT CHANGED? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR, DO YOU KNOW 4 WHAT -- 5 DEAN MURILLO: WELL, THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT THE 6 FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM THE BOARD TONIGHT AND ANY OTHER 7 LAST MINUTE FEEDBACK CAN BE INCORPORATED AND THEN YOU WILL 8 SEE THE FINAL UPDATE WITH THOSE COMMENTS BY NOVEMBER 4TH, 9 I BELIEVE, CORRECT? 10 DO YOU HAVE THE DATES? 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE GOT -- TRUSTEE NGO, I 12 REMEMBER SEEING FROM THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE -- 13 DEAN MURILLO: YES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AN E-MAIL ON WHAT THAT -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T WANT HOLD UP -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- SCHEDULE WAS. I CAN -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 18 WHATEVER WE GET, WHEN WE GET THERE ON NOVEMBER 4TH, IF 19 IT'S GOING TO BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO EDITS OR ARE YOU ASKING US 20 TO RUBBER STAMP THE STUDY? 21 DEAN MURILLO: OKAY. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: THERE HAS TO BE TIME TO DELIBERATE 24 AND INCORPORATE CHANGES AT THAT MEETING I IMAGINE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. THERE WILL BE AND THAT OCTOBER 27, 2011 44 1 WILL BE THE ONLY THING ON THE AGENDA I THINK, SO YOU WILL 2 HAVE MORE TIME THEN WE MIGHT HAVE -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- IF IT WERE LIKE -- 5 TRUSTEE NGO: FAIR ENOUGH. I JUST REMEMBER IN 6 COMMITTEE ME SAYING WE MIGHT GO BEYOND OCTOBER 31ST AND 7 EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WAS LIKE AGHAST AT ME SAYING 8 THAT. 9 SO -- DO YOU ALL RECALL THAT MEETING -- 10 DEAN MURILLO: YES. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WHEN EVERYONE SAID, DON'T SAY 12 THAT. WE'VE GOT TO FINISH IT BY OCTOBER 31ST. 13 SO I JUST WANT -- I AM GLAD YOU CLARIFIED THAT. 14 AND I AM READY TO PROCEED, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PROCEED. 15 DEAN MURILLO: OKAY. 16 MS. SAGINOR: I COULD CLARIFY THE TIME LINE. 17 DEAN MURILLO: SO WE WILL START OFF WITH ANY 18 QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RELATED TO THE FRONT MATTER BEFORE 19 WE PROCEED TO A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE STANDARDS? 20 AND TRUSTEE RIZZO HAS BEEN ON AT THE STEERING 21 COMMITTEE WITH US, SO HE HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS VERY 22 CLOSELY WITH ALL OF US. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET ME JUST MENTION WHAT WE 24 HAVE NOW -- WHAT'S ONLINE. 25 IF YOU GO TO THE HOME PAGE, THERE'S A LINK, OCTOBER 27, 2011 45 1 "ACCREDITATION SELF-STUDY" TO THE DOCUMENTS. AND WHAT WE 2 HAVE IS A VERSION THAT SHOWS ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE 3 BEEN MADE SINCE THE HARDBOUND PUBLISHED DOCUMENT. SO YOU 4 CAN SEE THE CROSS OUTS AND THE ADDITIONS IF YOU GO THERE. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 6 DEAN MURILLO: ALL RIGHT. I WILL LET STANDARD I 7 START WITH THE SHORT PRESENTATION. 8 MR. TETI: FRED TETI, FACULTY, CO-CHAIR STANDARD 9 I. MY FELLOW CO-CHAIR, KRISTEN CHARLES, IS IN THE 10 AUDIENCE. 11 STANDARD I IS ON INSTITUTIONAL MISSION AND 12 EFFECTIVENESS. IT HAS TWO PARTS, I.A AND I.B. I.A IS THE 13 INSTITUTIONAL MISSION. THE PARTS OF I.A ASK US TO RESPOND 14 TO THE STANDARD THAT WE HAVE A MISSION STATEMENT THAT IS 15 REVIEWED, APPROVED, AND PUBLISHED. IT GETS APPROVED BY 16 THE BOARD. THAT THE MISSION IS DESIGNED TO MEET THE NEEDS 17 OF OUR STUDENT POPULATION. THAT OUR OFFERINGS ARE 18 DESIGNED -- ARE ALIGNED WITH OUR MISSION STATEMENT, AND 19 THEREBY WITH THE NEEDS OF OUR STUDENT POPULATION. AND 20 THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR ALL OF THIS. 21 THERE WERE NO MAJOR CHANGES IN STANDARD I.A 22 BETWEEN THE INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS COMMITTEE MEETING 23 AND TONIGHT. THERE WAS A PARAGRAPH ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY 24 OF NON-CREDIT CERTIFICATES IN THE SELF-EVALUATION AT THE 25 VERY END OF SUB-STANDARD I.A.4. THAT HAS BEEN REPLACED BY OCTOBER 27, 2011 46 1 A SENTENCE IN SUB-STANDARD I.A.1, DRAWING MORE ATTENTION 2 TO THE NON-CREDIT CERTIFICATES. 3 WE MET -- WE ASSERT THAT WE MEET ALL THE PARTS 4 OF STANDARD I.A. AND THEREFORE, THERE ARE NO PLANNING 5 AGENDAS IN STANDARD I.A. 6 THIS IS ALL VERY NICE. OF COURSE NOW THAT IT'S 7 DARK, I CAN'T READ MY SPEAKER'S NOTES. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FRED. 9 MR. TETI: YES, SIR. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM LOOKING AT THAT PAGE YOU 11 ARE REFERRING TO WITH REMOVING THAT PARAGRAPH. AND IT 12 SAYS, IT'S PAGE 116, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST SECTION. SO I 13 AM WONDERING IS THAT JUST MISNUMBERED OR IS THERE A LARGE 14 SECTION -- 15 MR. TETI: THE NUMBERING IS FOR THE ENTIRE 16 DOCUMENT. SO THE FRONT MATTER TAKES UP -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: 100. 18 MR. TETI: -- ALMOST 100 PAGES. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. 20 MR. TETI: AND ALSO, I'M NOT QUITE SURE -- YOU 21 WILL NOTICE THERE'S TONS OF STRIKE OUTS. ONCE ALL THE 22 STRIKES OUTS ARE GONE, I AM ASSUMING THE -- I'M ASSUMING 23 THE PAGE NUMBER -- THE PAGINATION HERE IS INCLUSIVE OF THE 24 STRIKE OUTS. AND THAT ONCE WE GET RID OF ALL THAT STRUCK 25 OUT TEXT, THERE WILL BE VIEWER PAGES AND THE PAGINATION OCTOBER 27, 2011 47 1 WILL CHANGE TO REFLECT THAT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MAYBE THAT COULD BE ZOOMED UP 3 ON THE TOP THAT 50 PERCENT TO GO HIGHER, SO THAT -- YEAH, 4 THAT'S GOOD. 5 MR. TETI: YOU WILL SEE MUCH OF -- HAVING JUST 6 SAID THAT THERE WERE NO MAJOR CHANGES, YOU ARE PROBABLY 7 LOOKING AT THIS GOING, LOOK AT ALL THIS RED TEXT. MUCH OF 8 THAT ARE THE -- THE REFERENCES WERE COMPLETELY REVISED 9 WITH THE DILIGENT ATTENTION OF OUR COLLEAGUE, ANDREA NIOSI 10 HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, CLEANED THEM UP AND DID A FANTASTIC 11 JOB OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS SHE SPENT ON 12 THAT. SO YOU WILL SEE THE ORIGINAL REFERENCES. THEY ARE 13 ALL STRUCK OUT AND HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY A MUCH CLEANER 14 SET AFTERWARD. 15 THAT'S NOT STRIKEOUT. THAT'S UNDERLINED. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. YOU WANT TO MOVE TO 17 I.B. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON I.A? 18 NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED REALLY. 19 MR. TETI: YEAH. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE WANT TO MOVE TO I.B. 21 MR. TETI: SO I.B IS ON INSTITUTIONAL 22 EFFECTIVENESS. THE STANDARD THERE IS THAT WE HAVE BROAD 23 BASED COLLEGIAL DIALOGUE THAT WE USE FOR EVALUATION AND 24 PLANNING. THAT WE USE THIS DIALOGUE TO SET INSTITUTIONAL 25 GOALS. THAT WE MEASURE OUR PROGRESS TOWARD THOSE GOALS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 48 1 WE COMMUNICATE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PROGRESS, BOTH 2 INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY. WE REGULARLY EVALUATE THOSE 3 GOALS, AS WELL AS THE ASSESSMENT MECHANISMS AND, OF 4 COURSE, THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR ALL OF THIS. 5 THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES -- THERE ARE A 6 COUPLE OF ADDITIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN STANDARD I.B 7 SINCE THE INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS MEETING. I CAN'T 8 READ -- I THINK IT WAS PAGE 122. I CAN'T SEE IT IN MY 9 NOTES ANYMORE. THERE HAS BEEN SOME MATERIAL ADDED ABOUT 10 THE COLLEGE'S PROGRESS ON STUDENT LEARNING OUTCOMES. 11 I HAVE TO CONFESS -- THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THAT'S IT. 13 MR. TETI: SO THIS IS -- WE MENTIONED THE 14 STUDENT LEARNING OUTCOMES WORKGROUP AS AN EXAMPLE OF AN AD 15 HOC COMMITTEE THAT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE. AND THEN SOMEONE 16 DECIDED THAT WE MAY AS WELL TALK ABOUT THE SLO'S AS WELL 17 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COLLEGIAL DIALOGUE WHICH IS FINE. WE 18 ARE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT OUR SLO'S. 19 WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF EXTRA PARAGRAPHS ON A 20 FEW OTHER PAGES THAT TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OUTCOMES FROM 21 THE PROGRAM REVIEW CYCLE THIS PAST ACADEMIC YEAR. 22 THERE ARE TWO UNDER STANDARDS WHERE WE SAY THAT 23 WE PARTIALLY MEET THE AGENDA, I.B.5 AND I.B.6 AND SO THOSE 24 HAVE PLANNING AGENDAS. THE PLANNING AGENDA FOR I.B.5 SAYS 25 THAT THE BOARD WILL RECEIVE ANNUAL UPDATES ON THE COLLEGE OCTOBER 27, 2011 49 1 PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. THE PLANNING AGENDA FOR I.B.6 2 SAYS THAT WE WILL CONDUCT A SHARED GOVERNANCE EVALUATION 3 IN THE UPCOMING ACADEMIC YEAR. 4 I HAVE BEEN REMINDED THAT IN FACT THAT PROCESS 5 HAS ALREADY BEGUN. IT STARTED WITH THE SHARED GOVERNANCE 6 SURVEY THAT WAS SENT OUT ON A WIDE DISTRIBUTION E-MAIL 7 JUST TODAY. THAT CONCLUDES MY NOTES FOR MY PRESENTATION. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 MR. TETI: ANY QUESTIONS? 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY QUESTIONS ON STANDARD I, 11 ANYONE? 12 OKAY. 13 MR. TETI: THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE ARE AT STANDARD II, I 15 ASSUME. 16 MS. ABMA: YES. AND I AM HOPING I CAN READ IN 17 THE DARK. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: POINT OF INFORMATION. 19 HOW MANY SECTIONS DOES IT HAVE? 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WOULD LIKE -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE ARE FOUR. 22 MS. ABMA: FOUR STANDARDS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FOUR, FOUR STANDARDS. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: I WOULD LIKE THIS TO PROCEED TO 25 INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 50 1 AVC McGUIRE: DO YOU WANT US TO GO QUICKER? 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YES. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE -- 4 MR. TETI: I APOLOGIZE IF I TOOK TOO MUCH TIME. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN I HAVE -- WE 6 HAVE COMMUNITY PEOPLE HERE TOO, SO THEIR NEEDS ARE EQUALLY 7 AS IMPORTANT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE SUGGESTION IS TO JUMP TO 9 THE INSTITUTIONAL EFFECTIVENESS. 10 MS. ABMA: AND NOT DEAL WITH STANDARD II AT ALL? 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 MR. TETI: YOU MEAN BACK TO THE INSTITUTIONAL 13 EFFECTIVENESS? THAT'S I.B. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S I.B. 15 MS. ABMA: OKAY. 16 MR. TETI: YEAH. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: I AM JUST AS HAPPY GOING ON FROM 19 HERE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. DO YOU HAVE -- DO YOU 21 WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? 22 MR. TETI: I CONCLUDED MY REMARKS ON I.B, BUT I 23 WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: I CAN GO ON FROM HERE. THIS 25 IS -- THIS IS HOPPING INTO SPACE JUST FOR ME. AND I OCTOBER 27, 2011 51 1 WILL -- I CAN HOP IN AND HOP OUT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 MR. TETI: SO WHEN YOU NEED ME TO HOP BACK, I 4 WILL HOP. IS THAT -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE THEN TO 6 THE NEXT ONE. 7 MR. TETI: WITH STANDARD II? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 9 MR. TETI: ALL RIGHT. STANDARD II, YOU ARE UP. 10 MS. ABMA: I AM DEANNA ABMA. I AM ONE OF THE 11 ADMINISTRATIVE CO-CHAIRS FOR STANDARD II. MY FELLOW 12 CO-CHAIRS ARE ALICE MURILLO, OPHELIA CLARK, BUSINESS 13 DEPARTMENT CHAIR, AND ALSO ANDREA NIOSI FROM FACULTY FROM 14 LIBRARY. 15 AND WE HAD A HUGE SECTION, OVER 100 PAGES. BUT 16 I'M GOING TO -- I CONDENSED IT TO A HALF OF PAGE, SO HERE 17 I GO. 18 THERE ARE THREE SECTIONS UNDERNEATH STANDARD II. 19 AND THE OVERALL STANDARD IS STUDENT LEARNING PROGRAMS AND 20 SERVICES. STANDARD 2(A) DEALS WITH INSTRUCTIONAL 21 PROGRAMS. AND WHAT WE ARE REALLY GOING AFTER THERE WAS TO 22 TALK ABOUT THE QUALITY OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS AND 23 COURSES, HOW WE MEET STUDENT NEEDS, AND HOW WE KNOW, HOW 24 DO WE KNOW IF WE ARE EFFECTIVE? AND SO THAT WAS THE FOCUS 25 OF THAT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 52 1 THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FROM LAST 2 TIME, BUT WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF AREAS -- OVERALL, WE DID 3 WELL WITH THE STANDARD, BUT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF AREAS 4 WHERE WE PARTIALLY MET STANDARDS. AND THAT INCLUDED A 5 COUPLE OF AREAS THAT DEALT WITH STUDENT LEARNING OUTCOMES, 6 ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO PROGRAM STUDENT LEARNING 7 OUTCOMES, NOT ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS HAVE STATED OUTCOMES. 8 AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY A WORK IN 9 PROGRESS. AND ALSO THE ASSESSMENT PART OF STUDENT 10 LEARNING OUTCOMES, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT AS WELL. 11 FOR -- OH, THE OTHER ONE. THERE WAS ANOTHER 12 ITEM WE HAVE ONE WHERE WE SAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO 13 STREAMLINE THE PETITION PROCESS FOR AWARDING DEGREES AND 14 CERTIFICATES. THAT'S BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO AWARD MORE, 15 AND WE THINK WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT -- THE PROCESS 16 BETTER AND THAT WOULD HELP US IN IMPROVING OUR NUMBERS. 17 STANDARD II.B DEALS WITH STUDENT SUPPORT 18 SERVICES. AND IT REALLY LOOKS AT HOW WELL WE SUPPORT OUR 19 DIVERSE STUDENTS WITH THE FOCUS ON SUPPORTING ACCESS, 20 PROGRESS, LEARNING, AND SUCCESS. AND WE DID PRETTY WELL. 21 THIS STUDENT SERVICES HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH THE 22 STUDENT LEARNING OUTCOMES. 23 BUT ONE AREA THAT THEY REALLY EMPHASIZED THAT 24 THEY WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON IMPROVING SERVICES TO THE 25 CAMPUSES. AND SO THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT CONDUCTING A OCTOBER 27, 2011 53 1 SURVEY FOR NON-CREDIT STUDENTS IN SPRING OF 2012 AND 2 DOING -- AND REALLY PLAN MORE AND EVALUATE WHAT THE NEEDS 3 ARE AND HOW THOSE NEEDS CAN BE MET. 4 FOR STANDARD II.C WHICH WAS LIBRARY AND LEARNING 5 SUPPORT SERVICES. WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT WHETHER THESE 6 SERVICES ARE SUFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE IN MEETING 7 INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS AND STUDENT LEARNING NEEDS. 8 AND IF YOU READ THE DOCUMENT, THEY'VE DONE SOME 9 WONDERFUL THINGS IN THE LIBRARY AND LEARNING SERVICES. 10 BUT ONE THING THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE, AND THEY HAVE THAT 11 AS ONE OF THEIR PLANNING AGENDA ITEMS, IS TO RESTORE 12 LIBRARY HOURS TO ADEQUATELY SERVE COURSE OFFERINGS. SO 13 THAT IS IT. 14 DO YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT US 15 TO MOVE ALONG? 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? 17 OKAY, WHY DON'T YOU -- 18 MS. ABMA: THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. 20 MS. CATALDO: SO I AM BETH CATALDO. AND PETER 21 GOLDSTEIN AND I ARE CO-CHAIRS ON STANDARD III. STANDARD 22 III TALKS ABOUT RESOURCES. THE FIRST RESOURCE, STANDARD 23 III.A IS HUMAN RESOURCES WHERE WE'VE DISCUSSED HIRING 24 COMPOSITION DIVERSITY OF OUR FACULTY, STAFF, 25 ADMINISTRATORS. WE ALSO TALK ABOUT EVALUATION OF FACULTY OCTOBER 27, 2011 54 1 AND STAFF, AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. 2 VERY FEW CHANGES HAPPENED BETWEEN THE FIRST 3 DRAFT IN THIS. WE WERE MORE SPECIFIC AND ACTUALLY GAVE 4 UPDATED DATA. THAT'S STANDARD III.A. 5 III.B IS THE PHYSICAL RESOURCES. SO WE TALK 6 ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE THE LAST SELF-STUDY WHICH IS 7 BUILT QUITE A NUMBER OF THINGS AND UPGRADED A LOT OF 8 THINGS. WE ALSO HAVE ADDED AN ADVISORY GROUP. AND THAT 9 WAS ADDED SINCE THE LAST DRAFT. TRUSTEE NGO HAD POINTED 10 OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAD NOT ADDED TO THIS. 11 AND THEN STANDARD III.C TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES -- 12 I'M SORRY I AM GOING REALLY QUICKLY. BUT STANDARD III.C, 13 ALSO WE HAVE DONE A LOT SINCE THE LAST SELF-STUDY AND 14 THOSE ARE DETAILED HERE. ADDED STUDENT WEB MAIL, UPDATED 15 THE WEBSITE, A LOT OF STREAMLINED PROCESSES ACROSS THE 16 COLLEGE, FINANCIAL AID, OFFICE OF INSTRUCTION, ADMISSION 17 AND RECORDS HAVE ALL REALLY MOVED FROM HEAVY PAPER 18 PROCESSES TO ONLINE PROCESSES IN THE SPIRIT OF 19 SUSTAINABILITY. SO WE DETAIL THAT HERE. 20 THE ONLY CHANGE WE MADE HERE IS WE MENTIONED THE 21 NEW CTO IN THE BACK OF THE REPORT BEFORE, AND WE MOVED IT 22 TO THE FRONT OF THE REPORT. SO THE HIRING AND 23 RESTRUCTURING OF THE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES IS ALSO DETAILED 24 HERE. 25 THE ONLY PLANNING AGENDA THAT WE HAVE MENTIONED OCTOBER 27, 2011 55 1 IN ANY OF THOSE THREE IS THAT WE DO NEED -- THEY REQUIRE A 2 INSTITUTIONAL CODE OF ETHICS. AND I THINK YOU ARE VOTING 3 ON ONE TONIGHT. SO CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT HAVE ONE. AND 4 THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE FOR ACCREDITATION. 5 AND THEN PETER IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT III.D. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: III.D IS THE FINANCIAL -- 7 MS. CATALDO: FINANCIAL, YES. 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THANK YOU, BETH. 9 HERE WE GO. THE HEART OF III.D, OF COURSE, IS 10 TO DEMONSTRATE AND, OF COURSE, WITH EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP 11 WITH THE COLLEGE LINKS ITS BUDGET TO ITS PLANNING EFFORTS. 12 THAT THE COLLEGE DEALS NOT ONLY WITH ITS SHORT-TERM 13 FINANCIAL NEEDS, BUT WITH ITS LONG-TERM OBLIGATIONS. AND 14 THAT WE HAVE MEASURES IN PLACE TO ENSURE OUR FINANCIAL 15 INTEGRITY. I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE THE THREE MOST IMPORTANT 16 THINGS IN THERE. AND I THINK WE ADDRESS THOSE ALL VERY 17 WELL. 18 SINCE YOU MAY HAVE LOOKED AT IT LAST, AS A 19 RESULT OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING WE HAD WITH THE BOARD, 20 WE'VE -- I THINK WE'VE UPDATED A FEW THINGS. WE'VE BEEFED 21 UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE ABOUT MEASURES THAT THE BOARD HAS 22 TAKEN TO ENSURE INTEGRITY WITH FINANCIAL MATTERS. AND WE 23 HAVE ACTUALLY MODIFIED A DATE WHERE WE SAY WITH RESPECT TO 24 DEALING WITH SOLUTIONS TO OUR OPEB LIABILITIES, WE PUSHED 25 THAT BACK TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR IN TERMS OF OCTOBER 27, 2011 56 1 NEGOTIATING SOLUTIONS AS OPPOSED TO DECEMBER 31ST COMING 2 UP. 3 AND WITH RESPECT TO OUR OVERALL FINANCES, WE 4 UPDATED IT BASED ON THE SUCCESSFUL CLOSEOUT THAT WE HAD AT 5 THE END OF 2010-2011 AS EVIDENCED THAT FINANCIAL RESOURCES 6 WERE WELL MANAGED DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. 7 MS. CATALDO: ANY QUESTIONS? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOLD ON A SECOND. LET ME JUST 9 PULL IT UP. 10 IS THIS THE SECTION WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT AUDITS 11 AND THAT KIND OF THING? 12 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT THAT 13 IN HERE, YES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IN FACT I THINK IT WAS A 16 REQUEST THAT WE ADD INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE HAD COMPLIED 17 WITH THE PERFORMANCE AUDITS FROM THE BOND MEASURES. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AND THAT'S EITHER IN III.D OR 20 IN THE FACILITIES PART. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I SEE WE ADDED A SECTION 22 ON THE -- YOUR INTERNAL AUDIT COMMITTEE. 23 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THE CHANCELLOR'S COMMITTEE YES. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE CHANCELLOR'S COMMITTEE, 25 YEAH. OCTOBER 27, 2011 57 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: BUT I AM SURE WE ALSO DID ADD 2 INFORMATION RELATED TO THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 4 THANK YOU. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: I JUST WANT TO THANK THE 7 PRESENTERS FOR THIS UPDATE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE NOT DONE YET. WE HAVE 9 THE STANDARD IV. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, REALLY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, WE HAVE ONE MORE. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT -- 13 AVC MCGUIRE: (INAUDIBLE) OFF THE HOOK. 14 PHYLLIS MCGUIRE, I AM ONE OF THE ACADEMIC 15 CO-CHAIRS FOR STANDARD IV. MY CO-CHAIRS INCLUDED ATTILA 16 GABOR FROM THE OFFICE OF SHARED GOVERNANCE AND LISA ROMANO 17 FACULTY MEMBER FROM COUNSELING. 18 IV.A FOCUSSED ON LEADERSHIP AND GOVERNANCE. AND 19 IV.B WAS BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE ORGANIZATION. WE HAVE 20 INCORPORATED THE CHANGES THAT WERE SUGGESTED DURING THE 21 COURSE OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WITH THE BOARD OF 22 TRUSTEES. ALTHOUGH THE FEELING IS THAT THE CHANGES ARE 23 NOT WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER DRAMATICALLY SUBSTANTIAL EVEN 24 THOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF RED THERE. 25 AROUND THE -- IN THE LEADERSHIP AND GOVERNANCE, OCTOBER 27, 2011 58 1 IN TERMS OF INCORPORATING THOSE CHANGES, WHAT WE TRIED TO 2 DO IS REALLY REFLECT THE ROLE THAT EACH OF THE 3 CONSTITUENCY GROUPS PLAYED IN GOVERNANCE, SHARED 4 GOVERNANCE, AND LEADERSHIP. AND WE DID THAT BY INCLUDING 5 AND FOCUSSING ON THE ROLE OF THE BOARD WHICH DIDN'T SEEM 6 TO BE AS PROMINENT IN A AS WE WOULD HAVE LIKED. 7 IN SECTION B WITH BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE 8 ORGANIZATION, THE CHANGES HAVE TO DO WITH AND CONTINUE TO 9 HAVE TO DO WITH THE POLICY ACTIONS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN BY 10 THE BOARD. WE ARE HOPING THAT SOME OF THOSE WILL BE IN 11 THERE BASED UPON SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT YOU MAY TAKE 12 LATER ON THIS EVENING. AND IT REFLECTS THE FACT THAT THE 13 BOARD HAS HAD A RECENT RETREAT. AND AS BOARD POLICIES 14 CONTINUE TO -- AS YOU CONTINUE TO ACT ON SOME OF YOUR 15 POLICIES, WE ARE HOPING WITHIN THAT DOCUMENT TO HAVE THAT 16 REFLECTED. 17 THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID IN IV.B WAS WE DID 18 NOTE SOME OF THE BOARD ACTION THAT TOOK PLACE THAT WE 19 WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARED WITH THE VISITING TEAM 20 AROUND THE BOARD SUPPORT FOR THINGS LIKE THE VETERAN'S 21 CENTER, SECOND CHANCE, GUARDIAN SCHOLAR, AND THINGS LIKE 22 THAT SO THAT WAS BASED UPON THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD THAT 23 WE MADE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATED THAT AS WELL. I'M DONE. 24 ANY QUESTIONS? 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON OCTOBER 27, 2011 59 1 PAGE 333. 2 AVC MCGUIRE: OKAY. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE'S A STATEMENT. 4 "PROPOSED BOARD RESOLUTIONS THAT EFFECT EDUCATIONAL 5 PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN AGENDIZED WITHOUT PRIOR SHARED 6 GOVERNANCE REVIEW." 7 AVC MCGUIRE: WAIT A MINUTE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S A NEW SECTION THAT WAS 9 ADDED 333. I'M SORRY. WE ARE IN IV.A. 10 AVC MCGUIRE: RIGHT. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT LOOKS LIKE IT. THE FIRST 12 SENTENCE. 13 AVC MCGUIRE: IS THAT STILL IN THERE? I'M SORRY 14 I'M NOT -- I DON'T HAVE MY OLD NOTES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, YOU HAD IT. THAT WAS IT. 16 AVC MCGUIRE: YEAH, NO, NO. I SEE THAT, BUT I 17 THOUGHT THIS CHANGED, BUT -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING 19 TO BE CHANGED AS WELL. 20 AVC MCGUIRE: I WILL CHECK. I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT 21 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T BRING THOSE NOTES 22 WITH ME. BUT I CAN CHECK TOMORROW AND LET YOU ALL KNOW. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 24 AVC MCGUIRE: I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS SOME -- 25 I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OCTOBER 27, 2011 60 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, DO YOU REMEMBER? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I DON'T LIKE THAT I AM 3 SEEING A LOT OF RED THAT'S NOT STRUCK OUT, ESPECIALLY IN 4 THIS SECTION. 5 YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT 6 THAT ENTIRE PORTION. WE COULD EQUALLY DO THE SAME IN THE 7 SECTIONS INVOLVING THE SHARED GOVERNANCE SYSTEM. SO I 8 THOUGHT WE HAD MOVED PAST THIS. AND I AM LITTLE UPSET -- 9 AVC MCGUIRE: I'M SORRY. THIS IS -- IT WAS -- 10 AS FAR AS TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, IT WAS FRAMED IN A 11 DIFFERENT WAY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, OKAY. 13 AVC MCGUIRE: AND THE WAY I AM LOOKING AT IT 14 HERE IS NOT THE WAY -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 16 AVC MCGUIRE: -- I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO 17 FRAME THIS. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. WELL, I JUST -- I REMEMBER 19 THE THRUST OF MY CRITIQUE AT THAT MEETING WAS THAT THERE 20 WAS -- BASED ON THE RATIONALE THAT YOU ALL HAD PROVIDED TO 21 US, OKAY, ABOUT WHY THE FACULTY SECTION ON FACULTY 22 GOVERNANCE REALLY HAD NOT BORE ANY PRESENCE OF THE ROLE OF 23 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 24 BUT FOR SOME REASON, THERE IS THIS PREROGATIVE 25 TO HAVE EVERYTHING ABOUT SHARED GOVERNANCE TURF ISSUES OCTOBER 27, 2011 61 1 INTO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES' SECTION. AND THIS IS REALLY 2 NOT A STRETCH FROM THE REAL -- I THINK UNFOUNDED AND 3 PARTISAN LANGUAGE THAT WE SAW IN THE VERY FIRST DRAFT. SO 4 I AM A LITTLE DISTURBED THAT WE HAVE NOT MADE THE PROGRESS 5 THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE GIVEN -- GIVEN -- GIVEN THAT EVERY 6 OTHER PORTION OF THE ACCREDITATION DOCUMENT IS VERY WELL 7 BALANCED I THINK. FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS SECTION 8 CANNOT AVOID SOME SORT OF EXPRESSION OF TURF ISSUES. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SHARED -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T KNOW WHY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- GOVERNANCE SECTION. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, NO, BUT THERE'S A -- WE ARE 13 TALKING ABOUT BOARD GOVERNANCES. I DON'T HAVE THE 14 DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT WHEN I'M READING THAT -- LOOK, 17 YOU COULD LEAVE IT UP THERE, RIGHT? 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT SENTENCE, OCCASIONAL 20 INCONSISTENCIES IN THE SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW BOXES ON 21 BOARD RESOLUTIONS OCCUR. AND PROPOSED BOARD RESOLUTIONS 22 THAT AFFECT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN AGENDIZED, 23 RIGHT? 24 YOU WANT TO THROW EXAMPLES OUT THERE WHERE THE 25 BOARD HAS ESSENTIALLY TRIED TO RESPOND TO COMMUNITIES OCTOBER 27, 2011 62 1 NEEDS, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY HAVE NOT BEEN THE BEST IDEA. IF 2 YOU ARE GOING TO START HIGHLIGHTING THESE THINGS THAT THE 3 BOARD HAS DONE, WE COULD GO BACK AND GO -- I MEAN, IF WE 4 WANT TO KIND OF TAKE THIS POSTURE AGAIN, WE CAN. I JUST 5 THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS. I AM A LITTLE DISTURBED 6 THAT WE MAY HAVE TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AGAIN AT LEAST AS 7 TO THIS SECTION. 8 AND IF THERE'S REALLY NO MOVEMENT ON THIS 9 SECTION, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE 10 DOCUMENT BECAUSE I AM NOT SATISFIED THAT WE ARE GOING TO 11 LEAVE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT AFFECTS EVERYONE ELSE, EVERY 12 OTHER CONSTITUENCY IN THIS COLLEGE IN ITS BEST LIGHT WITH 13 ALL THE DOCUMENTATION IN THE WORLD. 14 YET, WHEN WE HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A POTSHOT AT 15 THE BOARD, NO ONE HAS ANY PROBLEM PUTTING IT INTO A 16 DOCUMENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BASICALLY QUALIFY OUR 17 INSTITUTION FOR OUR STUDENTS TO GET FINANCIAL AID AND TO 18 TRANSFER TO FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTIONS. THIS IS A PROBLEM, 19 EVEN AT THIS POINT. WITH SEVERAL WEEKS TO GO BEFORE WE 20 ARE GOING TO PUBLISH THIS THING, THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE AND 21 TONE IS STILL IN THE DOCUMENT. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS ALSO A THREE YEAR OLD 23 RESOLUTION -- 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THAT WAS NOT APPROVED. OCTOBER 27, 2011 63 1 TRUSTEE NGO: MY PROBLEM WAS THAT -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE BOARD DID NOT APPROVE IT. 3 AVC MCGUIRE: CORRECT. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: THERE WAS AN ISSUE -- FOR WHATEVER 5 REASON, HEAVEN FORBID SOMEONE ON THESE COMMITTEES ACTUALLY 6 PRAISE THE BOARD FOR ANYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE. AND YET, 7 YOU TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND SOME CRITIQUE, AND YOU 8 FIND A RESOLUTION, AND YOU TAKE ANOTHER SHOT AT THE BOARD. 9 THAT'S BOTHERSOME TO ME. I THOUGHT WE MOVED BEYOND THIS. 10 THIS IS A SERIOUS DOCUMENT I THINK. SO I DON'T 11 KNOW IF SOME PEOPLE TAKE THIS DOCUMENT AS SERIOUSLY AS WE 12 SHOULD TAKE IT. 13 AVC MCGUIRE: AGAIN, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I 14 THOUGHT THAT IT WAS REVISED SO THAT THE TONE WAS NOT WHAT 15 I AM LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW THAT ALL OF THE FINAL 16 EDITS ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE BY NOVEMBER 3RD -- 1ST, 17 I'M SORRY. 18 I AM LOOKING AT SOMETHING NOW THAT I DIDN'T 19 EXPECT TO SEE IN THE WAY IT IS, SO I APOLOGIZE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: PHYLLIS, I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR IT. 21 WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT -- 22 AVC MCGUIRE: I UNDERSTAND. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I WILL ACCEPT THAT THE TONE IS 24 DIFFERENT. BUT THE FACT THAT IT MADE IT INTO ANY DRAFT 25 AGAIN IS A LITTLE BOTHERSOME. OCTOBER 27, 2011 64 1 AVC MCGUIRE: YEAH. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN A 3 SPACE WHERE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO MAKE AN EDIT, EVEN IF 4 THIS IS NOT THE FINAL DRAFT THAT YOU HAD EXPECTED, WHY -- 5 WHY INTRODUCE THIS NEW ISSUE INTO THIS SECTION TWO WEEKS 6 BEFORE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ADOPT IT? WHY ARE WE DOING 7 THIS? 8 I DON'T WANT THIS TO UNDERMINE OR BELITTLE ANY 9 OF THE WORK THAT EVERYONE HAS DONE BECAUSE I KNOW IT HAS 10 BEEN PHENOMENAL WORK. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY IT CAN'T 11 EXTEND TO THIS SECTION. I DON'T KNOW WHY. AND THAT'S MY 12 PROBLEM. THAT'S ALL. 13 AND PLEASE, DON'T THINK THAT I DON'T APPRECIATE 14 THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. AND AS IN COMMITTEE, I EXPRESSED TO 15 YOU, ALL OF YOU, THAT IT WAS -- YOU ALL DID FANTASTIC 16 WORK. I JUST DON'T -- I AM HAVING -- I'M CONFOUNDED HERE 17 ABOUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. THAT'S ALL. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, YEAH. 19 AVC MCGUIRE: WE WILL REVISIT IT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOU KNOW FIRST, YOU 22 KNOW, I MEAN I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO ECHO THE 23 STATEMENTS OF TRUSTEE NGO. THAT'S A THREE YEAR OLD 24 RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS DIRECTLY BASED ON COMMUNITY 25 NEEDS. AND THIS IS A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. AND IT WAS A BIG OCTOBER 27, 2011 65 1 ISSUE FOR FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 2 I WENT THROUGH -- I MEAN THAT RESOLUTION WAS 3 BROUGHT THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS ALL THAT I KNOW. AND FOR 4 THAT JUST TO BE RANDOMLY BROUGHT UP, I MEAN I WANT THAT 5 EXAMPLE STRICKEN OUT OF THIS REPORT TO BE REALLY HONEST 6 WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, I MEAN -- LIKE I SAID, I KNOW YOU 7 GUYS WORK HARD, BUT, YOU KNOW -- AND I KNOW THIS BOARD 8 SPECIFICALLY HAS MADE, YOU KNOW, GREAT EFFORTS TO TRY TO 9 REALLY KIND OF REACH OUR HAND HALFWAY AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE 10 A GOOD HANDSHAKE. AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T SEEM -- IT 11 SOMETIMES SEEMS LIKE FOLKS CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES AND KNOCK 12 THE HAND AWAY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SHAKE. 13 AND SO YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD 14 BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WAITING 15 FOR ANOTHER RESOLUTION. I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO REVISIT 16 THIS LATER. 17 I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE A HARD COPY OF THIS. AND 18 I AM AN ENVIRONMENTALIST JUST AS MUCH AS ANYBODY, BUT MY 19 EYES HURT, LIKE, LOOKING AT THE COMPUTER SCREEN SO MUCH, 20 SO I WOULD LOVE A HARD COPY SO I COULD FOLLOW YOU GUYS A 21 LITTLE BIT BETTER. 22 BUT PHYLLIS, KAREN, FRED, I MEAN I WANT TO THANK 23 YOU GUYS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, BUT LET'S 24 PUT THE BEST FOOT FORWARD FOR EVERY PIECE OF THIS 25 INSTITUTION AS WELL, SO I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. OCTOBER 27, 2011 66 1 MS. SAGINOR: MAY I HAVE A MINUTE TO RESPOND TO 2 THIS? 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO. DAMN IT. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, WE 5 ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD GETS HARD COPIES. 6 AND MY OFFICE WILL WORK ON THAT TOMORROW AND GET IT 7 MESSENGERED OVER TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO YOU WILL 8 HAVE A HARD COPY. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, THANK YOU. 10 MS. SAGINOR: I JUST NEED TO EXPLAIN ONE THING 11 WHICH IS THE SELF-STUDY ACCREDITATION REPORT IS NOT IN 12 FACT ABOUT PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD, RIGHT. THE GOAL 13 IS NOT TO SAY ALL NICE THINGS. THE GOAL IS TO TAKE AN 14 HONEST ASSESSMENT OF THE COLLEGE. THE TONE OF THIS 15 SECTION WAS CHANGED. IT CAN BE CHANGED AGAIN. 16 WE SAY IN THIS SECTION THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME 17 PROBLEMS, BUT THAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE. AND IT LOOKS 18 LIKE IT'S BEEN RESOLVED. AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT THE 19 ACCREDITATION REPORT IS ABOUT. IT'S NOT -- I WOULD HATE 20 FOR THE REVISITING -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 22 MS. SAGINOR: -- TEAM TO HEAR US SAYING, OH, WE 23 NEED TO ONLY SAY NICE THINGS. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE -- 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL -- 25 MS. SAGINOR: -- SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. OCTOBER 27, 2011 67 1 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU KNOW -- 2 MS. SAGINOR: SO I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THIS 3 DISCUSSION AGAIN AT ANOTHER TIME. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: LET ME -- 5 MS. SAGINOR: -- I DON'T WANT TO TAKE -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: -- RAISE THIS -- 7 MS. SAGINOR: -- UP MORE OF YOUR TIME. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: -- POINT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT -- 9 THIS IS NOT A FRIVOLOUS MATTER, OKAY, BECAUSE THAT 10 DOCUMENT IN THE VERY FIRST FORM WAS AWFUL AS IT APPLIED TO 11 THE BOARD. IT WAS A HACKING -- IT WAS A HACKISH DOCUMENT 12 AS IT APPLIED TO US. THE PARTISAN, THE LANGUAGE WAS 13 INAPPROPRIATE. AND RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU ARE TELLING ME IS 14 THAT YOU STILL THINK IT SHOULD BE THIS WAY. 15 LOOK, I MADE -- I THOUGHT I MADE A FAIR EFFORT 16 DURING THIS -- DURING THESE COMMITTEE PROCESSES TO DO THE 17 BEST WORK WE COULD DO, TO PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD 18 BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A FRIVOLOUS DOCUMENT. 19 YOU MAY RECALL IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING 20 OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD, THE FACT THAT THERE WAS LANGUAGE IN 21 THIS DOCUMENT ABOUT A PLENARY SESSION OF THE ACADEMIC 22 SENATE WHERE STUDENTS' MIKES WERE CUT OFF. I ASKED THAT 23 BE TAKEN OUT. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE, BUT THAT 24 HAPPENED. AND APPARENTLY, THERE WAS SOME ISSUE WITH 25 DIALOGUE BETWEEN FACULTY AND STUDENTS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 68 1 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GO IN THIS 2 DOCUMENT? I DON'T THINK SO. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOLD ON. HOLD ON. WE ARE NOT 4 HAVING A CONVERSATION HERE. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT LET ME -- BUT LET ME -- BUT 6 LET ME -- BUT LET ME -- I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE -- 7 FINE. FAIR ENOUGH. 8 BUT IF YOU WANT TO START EXCHANGING PARTISAN 9 LANGUAGE AND TAKE SHOTS IN EACH OTHER'S DOCUMENT RIGHT 10 NOW, WE'LL START OVER. WE CAN DO THIS. I -- BECAUSE I -- 11 WE CAN REVIEW ALL OF THESE -- WE CAN REVIEW THE RECORD FOR 12 THE PAST TEN YEARS AND SEE WHAT ELSE HAS HAPPENED ON YOUR 13 SIDE OF THINGS IN TERMS OF GOVERNANCE. WE CAN DO THAT IF 14 YOU WANT TO. BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE I THOUGHT WE WERE 15 GOING. 16 AVC MCGUIRE: NO. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE -- 18 AVC MCGUIRE: I THINK -- 19 TRUSTEE NGO: -- PHYLLIS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE 20 ARE HERE. 21 AVC MCGUIRE: I THINK THAT -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AND IF WE ARE GOING TO BE HONEST 23 ABOUT THE RECORD, OKAY, CAN YOU TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT DID 24 WE INCLUDE THESE -- WE HAD TEN FELONY COUNTS YOU MAY 25 RECALL AGAINST THREE ADMINISTRATORS. WAS THAT IN THIS OCTOBER 27, 2011 69 1 DOCUMENT? IS IT IN THERE ANYMORE? IT WASN'T EVEN IN 2 THERE IN THE FIRST INSTANCE. 3 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: IT IS. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AND NOW IT IS, OKAY. BUT IT 5 WASN'T IN THERE BEFORE, WAS IT? AT OUR SUGGESTION IT WAS 6 PUT IN THERE. 7 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: AT THE STAFF'S 8 SUGGESTION, IT WAS PUT IN THERE. THE SENATE ASKED FOR IT 9 TO BE PUT IN THERE. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 11 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: I STOPPED THE 12 (INAUDIBLE). 13 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S FINE. 14 LISTEN, IF YOU ARE GOING TO START PLAYING A 15 DIFFERENT STANDARD RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE HAVE TO DELAY -- 16 WE HAVE TO DELAY THE REPORT BECAUSE IT HASN'T -- WE SHOULD 17 TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING ON THE ACADEMIC SENATE SIDE AND 18 THE GOVERNANCE SIDE OF FACULTY TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER 19 THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DONE CORRECTLY. 20 BUT SEE, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. I THOUGHT WE WERE 21 BEYOND THIS, BUT WE ARE NOT. I DON'T -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, LET ME JUST 23 SUMMARIZE. 24 YOU KNOW, THERE WERE -- I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE 25 SAYING. THERE WERE THINGS -- THE IDEA IS THAT, WELL, IF OCTOBER 27, 2011 70 1 WE ARE GOING TO DIG BACK THREE YEARS TO FIND A PROBLEM IN 2 A, YOU KNOW, A RESOLUTION, WE CAN DO THAT ON THE OTHER 3 SIDE TOO. 4 IN FACT I'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL ITEMS, THE DELAYS 5 OF SOME VITALLY NEEDED ITEMS FOR YEARS. THESE DID NOT GET 6 IN HERE, AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE IN HERE FRANKLY. 7 SO I THINK WE DO HAVE TO BE BALANCED HERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN 8 WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS. AND THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE 9 THIS SO -- 10 AVC MCGUIRE: WE WILL GET THE PRINTED COPIES 11 FROM THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. WE WILL MAKE SURE TO 12 COMPARE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE EDITS ARE CORRECT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE JUST WANT A BALANCE 14 BECAUSE -- 15 AVC MCGUIRE: YES. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE GOING 17 TO KEEP SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT I 18 WOULD WANT TO ADD. SO THAT'S -- I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE 19 ON. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I AGREE. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE 21 ON IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL 23 MEETING. WE HAVE NOT CALENDARED THAT YET. BUT THERE WAS 24 A SUGGESTION, I BELIEVE, THAT CAME -- 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 71 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- FROM THE CHANCELLOR'S 2 OFFICE, WHICH I DON'T HAVE MY HANDS ON. BUT WELL -- IT 3 WENT AROUND TO THE TRUSTEES. AND WE WILL TRY TO GET A 4 FIRM DATE ON IT. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 7 TRUSTEE GRIER: COULD WE TURN THE LIGHTS ON AND 8 CAN I MAKE MY COMMENT? 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CERTAINLY. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 11 I WANTED TO THANK THE ACCREDITATION COMMITTEE 12 FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. IT SHOWS. IT'S APPRECIATED. 13 AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW VALUABLE WHAT YOU DO IS. IT 14 REALLY DETERMINES OUR ACADEMIC FUTURE AT THIS COLLEGE. 15 IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 16 I ALSO WANT TO KNOW THE TIME OF THE NOVEMBER 17 MEETING. AND I WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE 18 PLACE. 19 AND I THANK THE CHANCELLOR FOR MAKING SURE THAT 20 THE BOARD GETS HARD COPIES. AND I CERTAINLY WANT TO 21 REVIEW THAT BEFORE THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING AND HAVE A 22 DIALOGUE WITH YOU. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 24 TRUSTEE BERG. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU KNOW, I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED OCTOBER 27, 2011 72 1 ABOUT ALL OF THIS. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND 2 REALLY WHAT ACCREDITATION IS. THE ACCREDITATION IS THE 3 REALITY OF SEEING BY ALL OF THE GROUPS. SO WE HAVE, AS 4 TRUSTEES, WE HAVE AN OPINION OF THE WAY WE'RE SEEING. BUT 5 THE FACULTY ALSO, THE FACULTY AND ALL OF THE CONSTITUENT 6 GROUPS ALSO HAVE A VIEW. AND THAT VIEW SHOULD NOT BE 7 ALTERED BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE ACCREDITATION TEAM WILL 8 COME AND WILL TALK TO EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE DISTRICT AND 9 A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS ARE GOING TO COME UP. SO THAT 10 THE ACCREDITATION REPORT REALLY HAS TO REFLECT WHAT THE 11 ACCREDITATION TEAM IS GOING TO LISTEN TO AT A SITE VISIT. 12 THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 13 THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE FACULTY, THE 14 CONSTITUENTS THINK WE ARE TERRIBLE OR AWFUL OR NOT DOING 15 OUR JOB OR ARE OVERARCHING OR WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T MEAN 16 THAT. IT MEANS THAT THIS IS THE PERCEPTION THAT'S 17 OBSERVED BY THE GROUPS THAT ARE WRITING IT. AND IT'S NOT 18 NEGATIVE. IT ISN'T. IT'S A REALITY. AND ALL THIS IS A 19 REALITY CHECK. AND THE BOARD CAN'T CHANGE THAT REALITY 20 CHECK. PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND. 21 WE CAN WRITE WHAT WE WANT TO WRITE THE WAY WE 22 PERCEIVE THINGS. THAT'S FINE. I THINK THAT'S FINE 23 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SAY TO THE 24 ACCREDITATION TEAM, BUT I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO 25 UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO SAY IT THE WAY OCTOBER 27, 2011 73 1 THEY THINK -- THE WAY THEY PERCEIVE IT OR THE WAY THEY 2 FEEL ABOUT IT. 3 SO IT'S NOT A PUNITIVE THING. IT'S A 4 CONSTRUCTIVE INSTRUMENT. IT HELPS US ALL, EVERYONE OF US. 5 WE ARE ALL GOING TO LEARN FROM THIS. AND WE ARE GOING TO 6 MAKE A BETTER INSTITUTION OUT OF IT. SO I DON'T THINK 7 THERE SHOULD BE THIS KIND OF COMBATIVENESS QUITE FRANKLY. 8 JUST GO FORWARD. I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT 9 JOB. IT'S A HORRENDOUS TASK. I WORKED ON -- I DID ON 10 THE -- I SAT ON THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, AND IT'S TOUGH. 11 IT'S TOUGH TO TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT LANGUAGE. IT'S 12 TOUGH. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS DOCUMENT CANNOT REFLECT 13 WHAT IS GOING -- IT CANNOT SAY WHAT WOULD BE REFLECTED IN 14 THE COMMENTS OF THE SITE VISIT. KEEP THAT IN MIND. IT'S 15 GOT TO BE FAIR. YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY SAY IT THE WAY YOU 16 BELIEVE IT TO BE. AND THAT MEANS THE BOARD AS WELL. IF 17 THAT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE, THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD 18 WRITE. 19 ANYHOW, THANK YOU ALL BECAUSE IT'S A BIG TASK. 20 IT REALLY IS A BIG TASK. AND I WANT YOU TO REALLY 21 UNDERSTAND THAT WE KNOW -- THAT WE KNOW HOW MUCH WORK 22 YOU'VE DONE BECAUSE IT'S TOUGH. YOU ARE CARING YOUR FULL 23 LOADS. AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER FULL LOAD 24 WHICH IS DOING ACCREDITATION AND GOING OVER EVERY 25 SENTENCE, EVERY WORD, EVERY PIECE OF IT. IT'S A BIG, BIG OCTOBER 27, 2011 74 1 JOB, SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. I REALLY 2 COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 4 ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? 5 OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE BERG, I AGREE WITH YOU 7 WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I JUST THINK IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE 8 STANDARD, I THINK THE BOARD SHOULD LOOK MORE PROACTIVELY 9 AT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE STUDY, AND I THINK THAT'S OKAY. 10 I WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT THERE IS A 11 PRESENTATION AS -- I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY REQUIRES 12 THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS IN THE STUDY. 13 I THINK EVERYTHING HAS TO BE VERIFIED. AND SOMETIMES 14 THOSE VERIFICATIONS DON'T ADD UP TO THE OPINIONS THAT WE 15 MAY HAVE. 16 AND I THINK WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THOSE DOCUMENTS 17 IN COMMITTEE TWICE IN TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS, THAT'S WHAT 18 WE TRIED TO DO. AND I JUST NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A LOT 19 OF EVIDENCE CITED IN EVERY OTHER SECTION AND NOT AS MUCH 20 IN THE BOARD'S SECTION, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. 21 SO I WILL TAKE YOUR CRITIQUE TO HEART. AND I 22 THINK WE WILL LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT ANEW WHEN WE GET IT. 23 THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON, 25 UNLESS THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 75 1 MS. NIOSI: (INAUDIBLE.) 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU HAVE -- OKAY. 3 MS. NIOSI: (INAUDIBLE.) 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE -- YOU HAVE TO COME TO 5 THE MICROPHONE. YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD. AND PLEASE 6 STATE YOUR NAME IN THE -- 7 MS. NIOSI: MY NAME IS ANDREA NIOSI. I HAVE 8 BEEN WORKING ON THE -- I AM A CO-CHAIR FOR STANDARD II, 9 BUT I HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THE REFERENCE WORK. AND I 10 HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IV.B FOR THE LAST WEEK PRETTY 11 CONSISTENTLY. 12 AND IT HAS QUITE A -- THE VERSION THAT I HAVE 13 BEEN WORKING TO FIND ALL THE EVIDENCE FOR TO SHOW ALL THE 14 WORK THAT THE BOARD HAS DONE, AND IT'S HIGHLY -- THERE'S 15 OVER 100 REFERENCES NOW IN IV.B. AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE 16 TOMORROW, I THINK YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE 17 DONE. SO JUST WAIT FOR TOMORROW'S VERSION. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 19 MS. NIOSI: YEAH OR NOVEMBER 1ST. AND I REALLY 20 THINK IT'S REALLY COME A LONG WAY. AND THE TONE IS REALLY 21 EVEN KEELED, AND I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT. SO I -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I AM 23 CRITICIZING YOUR WORK. I THINK THE ISSUE IS IF YOU ARE 24 LOOKING FOR CERTAIN OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE GIVEN -- 25 MS. NIOSI: THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT EVIDENCE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 76 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- GIVING AN ASSERTION IN THE 2 FIRST PLACE IS A DIFFERENT THING THEN LOOKING AT IT FROM A 3 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND THEN HAVING PERHAPS A SEARCH FOR 4 DIFFERENT SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. I MEAN THERE'S A CERTAIN 5 VIEW POINT YOU CAN INSERT INTO THE DOCUMENT AND LOOK FOR 6 SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. AND THERE'S OTHER VIEW POINTS THAT 7 YOU COULD ALSO SEARCH FOR AND FIND SUPPORTING EVIDENCE FOR 8 BUT YOU MAY NOT PUT IN THE DOCUMENT, RIGHT? 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I THINK THIS IS CLEAR 10 THOUGH. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. GOOD. WELL, I JUST WANT TO 12 MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T THINK I AM CRITICIZING YOUR WORK. 13 MS. NIOSI: NO, NO -- 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH -- 15 MS. NIOSI: -- NO. I THINK THE VERSION THAT YOU 16 SEE ON THE 1ST WILL -- I THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAY. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: GREAT. OKAY. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE 20 ACCREDITATION STEERING COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE WORK. THIS 21 IS A VERY LARGE DOCUMENT, A LOT OF DATA TO COLLECT. 22 AND -- YEAH, YOU CAN APPLAUD. SURE. 23 (APPLAUSE GIVEN.) 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO LET'S GO BACK TO 25 DEAN BELL'S PRESENTATION -- I'M SORRY. VICE CHANCELLOR OCTOBER 27, 2011 77 1 BELL'S PRESENTATION ON THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND IT'S S5. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, THIS IS ACTUALLY A 4 SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM. IT'S ITEM VIII, BUT PEOPLE SAID 5 THEY WANTED TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION BEFORE THE RESOLUTION 6 WHICH MAKES SENSE TO ME. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: MR. PRESIDENT, CAN WE 8 DO THE PRESENTATION ITEM VIII AND THEN DO S5 AFTERWARDS. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING, YES. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 11 AVC BELL: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES, AND 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. AGAIN, MY NAME IS JORGE BELL. I AM 13 THE VICE CHANCELLOR OF CAMPUS AND ENROLLMENT SERVICES. 14 WITH ME TONIGHT ARE: TORRANCE BYNUM, HE IS THE 15 COORDINATOR OF THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS; BILL SHIELDS, HE IS 16 THE DEPARTMENT CHAIR OF THE LABOR STUDIES DEPARTMENT; AND 17 DR. ROSE MARIE ROBERSON, SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL 18 AID SERVICES. 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN ASKED ME OR ASKED US TO MAKE 20 A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS FACILITIES. 21 AND OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC 22 UTILITIES COMMISSION, PUC, IN REGARDS TO THE REMODELING OF 23 THE BUILDING AND ADDING ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND PROGRAMS 24 TO THE CAMPUS. 25 MY LEADERSHIP IN THIS PROJECT STARTED IN MAY OCTOBER 27, 2011 78 1 WHEN I BECAME THE VICE CHANCELLOR OF CAMPUSES AND 2 ENROLLMENT SERVICES. 3 SINCE MAY, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH PUC 4 REPRESENTATIVES AND ADMINISTRATORS, FACULTY, AND STAFF 5 FROM CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. I HAVE ASKED BILL 6 SHIELDS TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS 7 THAT WE HAD WITH PUC. 8 BILL. 9 MR. SHIELDS: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES, 10 COLLEAGUES, FRIENDS, MAMA JACKSON, AND MEMBERS OF THE 11 COMMUNITY. 12 MY ROLE HERE IS JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF 13 BACKGROUND TO FLUSH OUT SOME OF WHAT TRUSTEE GRIER AND 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON WERE TALKING ABOUT. 15 WE ALL REMEMBER, OF COURSE, THAT WHEN THE CITY 16 PUT THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT OVER THERE, THE COMMUNITY 17 ORGANIZED AND SAID, OKAY, WE DON'T WANT IT HERE. 18 PEOPLE WEREN'T ABLE TO KEEP IT OUT, BUT THEY 19 WERE ABLE TO GET MITIGATION. MITIGATION WAS THE SOUTHEAST 20 FACILITY AND ALSO THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. NOW AGAIN, PUC IS 21 DOING WORK, AND THE COMMUNITY FEELS MITIGATION IS OWED 22 AGAIN. 23 SO WE MET, THIS TEAM OF CITY COLLEGE STAFF WITH 24 SOME WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE DYNAMIC, YOUNG, INTERESTING, AND 25 RELATIVELY PROGRESSIVE PUC STAFF STARTING IN THE SPRING OCTOBER 27, 2011 79 1 WHO CLAIMED TO HAVE DONE 100 MEETINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. I 2 DON'T KNOW WHO EXACTLY THEY TALKED TO, BUT THEY WERE 3 GENEROUS IN SPIRIT. THEY ENCOURAGED US TO THINK IN OUR 4 POVERTY-STRICKEN BUDGETARY MOMENT THAT THEY HAD A LOT OF 5 MONEY. THEY HAD A LOT OF MONEY. AND THEY WERE TALKING 6 ABOUT SUCH THINGS AS BUILDING A PARKING GARAGE THERE, 7 ABOUT PAYING FOR CUSTODIAL STAFF, ABOUT PAYING FOR 8 SECURITY, ABOUT FUNDING A SHUTTLE TO CONNECT OUR CITY 9 COLLEGE CAMPUSES ON THIS SIDE OF THE CITY. THEY WERE ALSO 10 TALKING ABOUT A SUBSTANTIAL REBUILD OF THE FACILITY, 11 INCLUDING EXPANDING OUR FOOTPRINT. EXPANDING OUR 12 FOOTPRINT TO INCLUDE TAKING OVER THE GREENHOUSES. 13 SO WE TOOK THEM SERIOUSLY. WE BEGAN TO MEET 14 WITH THEIR CITY ARCHITECT. WE GOT TO MEET WITH THE STAFF. 15 AND WE DIDN'T GET TO THE POINT OF HAVING A WRITTEN 16 CONTRACT, BUT WE GOT PRETTY FAR DOWN THAT PATH. 17 THE ARCHITECT CAME TO THE AIRPORT CAMPUS AND 18 MEASURED THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE AND FIRE SCIENCE 19 FACILITY SO BETTER TO KNOW HOW TO INCLUDE SUCH A FACILITY 20 AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS AND THE REBUILD. 21 THE ARCHITECT CAME WITH US TO THE DOWNTOWN 22 CAMPUS AND MEASURED THE BAKERY TRAINING CERTIFICATE 23 PROGRAM. THE BETTER TO KNOW HOW TO BUILD A BAKERY 24 TRAINING CERTIFICATE FACILITY AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 25 SO IT WAS MUCH TO OUR SHOCK AND OUR CHAGRIN, AS OCTOBER 27, 2011 80 1 HAD BEEN SAID, WHEN WE GOT BACK AT THE END OF THE SUMMER 2 HAVING LINED UP A LOT OF DUCKS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE 3 COLLEGE, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WITHIN THE LABOR MOVEMENT 4 ON MY PART, THE EMPLOYER COMMUNITY, WE'RE READY TO ROLL 5 AND THEIR ATTITUDE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. AND, OF COURSE, 6 WE THINK SOMEBODY HIGHER UP -- THESE ARE YOUNG STAFF. 7 THEY ARE NOT IN CHARGE. BUT IMMEDIATELY, THEY GOT VERY 8 RUDE, CRUDE WITH US. YOU KNOW, THEY BEGAN TO TREAT US 9 LIKE THEY'VE BEEN TREATING THE COMMUNITY FOR A LONG, LONG 10 TIME. 11 SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE 12 VISION LOOKED LIKE. THE VISION LOOKED LIKE A CHILD 13 DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. IT LOOKED LIKE A HOSPITALITY 14 TRAINING INSTITUTE, A RETAIL TRAINING ACADEMY, 15 ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE AND FIRE SCIENCE PROGRAM, 16 ENVIRONMENTAL HORTICULTURE AND FLORISTRY PROGRAM, DOING 17 WHAT THE PUC ASKED US TO DO WHICH WAS CREATE JOB TRAINING 18 PROGRAMS THAT HAD SOME REAL SUBSTANCE TO THEM. 19 AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO SUGGEST FOR 20 YOUR CONSIDERATION IS WE WERE CONSIDERING THE SUCCESS OF 21 THE EVANS CAMPUS. THE EVANS CAMPUS IS NOW A HAPPENING 22 PLACE. THAT'S WHERE OUR OFFICE IS. THE MISSION CAMPUS IS 23 NOW AFTER THREE YEARS OF HEAVY LIFTING, REALLY TAKING OFF 24 AS CHINATOWN/NORTH BEACH SOON WILL BE. WE CAN DO THIS AT 25 SOUTHEAST. AND WE HAVE THE MODEL. OCTOBER 27, 2011 81 1 THE MODEL IS CITY BUILD. CITY BUILD THE CBO'S 2 RECRUIT PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT. THE MAYOR'S 3 OFFICE FUNDS. THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF WORKFORCE AND 4 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. CITY COLLEGE OFFERS THE 5 INSTRUCTION, THE UNIONS. THEY UNIONIZED EMPLOYERS. WE 6 ARE GETTING PEOPLE JOBS. 7 JUST THE OTHER DAY I HAD -- THERE WAS A YOUNG 8 WOMAN WHO WAS IN THIS PROGRAM, CITY BUILD NOW CAME TO ME 9 AND SAID, I HEARD ABOUT CITY BUILD WHILE I WAS IN THE 10 JOINT. I WAS IN THE PRISON. 11 I SAID, OH, DID YOU HAVE A SPEAKER COME AND TALK 12 TO YOU ABOUT CITY BUILD? 13 SHE SAID, NO, WORD OF MOUTH REACHED ME IN PRISON 14 ABOUT THE CITY BUILD PROGRAM. I CAME LOOKING FOR YOU. I 15 AM TURNING MY LIFE AROUND BY BEING IN THE CITY BUILD 16 PROGRAM. 17 SO THIS IS THE MODEL THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT WE 18 CAN BUILD AT SOUTHEAST -- IF WITH YOUR SUPPORT, WE COULD 19 GET PUC TO GO BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE OR TO GO FORWARD TO 20 WHERE WE HOPE THEY WILL BE. 21 TO CONCLUDE, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CONCRETE 22 EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF SYNERGY WE COULD BRING TOGETHER. 23 PARK AND REC HAS A SUMMER CAMP CALLED, CAMP GOURMET. WE 24 COULD REACH MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILDREN IN THE BAYVIEW-HUNTERS 25 POINT, BRING THEM INTO CAMP GOURMET, BEGIN TO GET THEM OCTOBER 27, 2011 82 1 INTO A COOKING MODE. THEN WE COULD ESTABLISH A BAKERY 2 TRAINING CERTIFICATE BECAUSE WE ARE IMPACTED AT THE 3 DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. WE NEED MORE BAKERY TRAINING PROGRAMS. 4 WE WILL HAVE A CAFE AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 5 THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WILL CREATE THE FOOD THAT WILL BE SOLD 6 THERE. THEN IF THEY WANT TO GET TO THE SAVORY SIDE OF 7 CULINARY, THEY WILL GET ON THE BUS, THE SHUTTLE, AND COME 8 OVER TO THE MAIN CAMPUS. 9 LOCAL 2, MY OLD UNION, HAS A HIRING CLAUSE WITH 10 THE BIG DOWNTOWN HOTELS AFFIRMATIVELY HIRE AFRICAN 11 AMERICANS INTO THE HOTELS. IT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE WE 12 DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THE PIPELINE LIKE WE DO WITH CITY 13 BUILD. 14 SO THE BAKERY TRAINING CERTIFICATE WOULD INCLUDE 15 THIS WORK. AND ALSO INCLUDE THE WORK OF PROJECT STEP, 16 WHICH THE SAN FRANCISCO LABOR COUNCIL HAS FUNDED, ALONG 17 WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. AND THEY HAVE FIVE -- WE HAVE 18 SIX YEARS OF STATISTICS FROM THE BIG DOWNTOWN HOSPITALITY 19 EMPLOYERS. WE HAVE THOSE STATISTICS IN HAND. THAT EVEN 20 IN THE DEPTHS OF THE RECESSION, 500 PEOPLE WERE HIRED IN A 21 SIX-MONTH PERIOD IN THE DOWNTOWN HOSPITALITY SECTOR. 22 THEY ARE CALLING OUR PROJECT STEP COLLEAGUES 23 SAYING WE NEED PEOPLE. WE NEED ROOM CLEANERS. AND SO WE 24 SAID GIVE US TWO MOCK HOTEL ROOMS IN THOSE GREENHOUSES. 25 AND WE HAVE 100 PEOPLE WAITING TO TAKE THAT CLASS. AND WE OCTOBER 27, 2011 83 1 HAVE EMPLOYERS CALLING US SAYING, DO YOU HAVE TRAINED 2 PEOPLE? 3 SO IN ADDITION TO THE OUTREACH BY THE BAKERY 4 TRAINING CERTIFICATE, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN 5 BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT, WE HAVE ALSO THIS INITIATIVE FOR 6 HOUSEKEEPER TRAINING TO THE GROWING ASIAN AND LATINO 7 DEMOGRAPHIC IN BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. 8 SO THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WAS SET IN 9 MOTION. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE AND PROGRAMS, BOTH 10 WITHIN THE COLLEGE AND WITHOUT, THAT ARE NOW READY TO ROLL 11 ONLY TO BE ABRUPTLY SLAPPED DOWN AND TOLD FORGET ABOUT IT. 12 WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU 25,000 SQUARE FEET CITY COLLEGE, 13 WHEN WE NEED OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET. 14 SO WE THINK NOW IT IS GOING TO TAKE ADVOCACY, 15 WORK, POLITICAL WORK, AND WE NEED THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO 16 HELP US WITH THAT EFFORT. 17 AND SO MY PART WAS JUST THAT KIND OF 18 INTRODUCTION AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE VISION. AND THEN OUR 19 VERY DYNAMIC NEW COORDINATOR TORRANCE BYNUM IS NOW GOING 20 TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME INTERESTING AND GOOD 21 CHANGES THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED AT THE CAMPUS. 22 BEFORE I LEAVE, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS 23 SO FAR, MY PRESENTATION? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: BILL, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PUC OCTOBER 27, 2011 84 1 AND HOW THEY PULLED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER US. BUT YOU 2 DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WHY OR WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE, THEIR 3 REASONING. 4 MR. SHIELDS: WELL, WE ARE LEFT TO SPECULATE. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: WHY ARE YOU LEFT -- WHY DON'T YOU 6 JUST ASK? 7 MR. SHIELDS: WELL, WE HAVE. WE ARE TALKING TO 8 THEM. TO BE HONEST, TRUSTEE WONG, WE ARE KIND OF REELING 9 AT THIS POINT WITH THE DISMISSIVE ATTITUDE. AND WE ARE 10 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REAPPROACH THEM, HOW TO TALK 11 TO THEM, HOW TO GET BACK INTO A MORE COLLABORATIVE MODE 12 WITH THEM. 13 BUT -- BUT WHEN WE WERE TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE 14 ARE THE LEASE -- YOU KNOW, YOU ARE JUST A LEASE HOLDER 15 AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET RID OF YOU. IT TOOK US A WHILE 16 TO START TO BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED. SO WE 17 WILL BE TALKING TO THEM. WE ARE TALKING TO THEM, BUT WE 18 THINK WE NEED TO SHOW THEM THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT 19 WE WANT TO DO IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: MIGHT I SUGGEST ALSO THAT YOU 21 START TALKING TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. MAYOR ED LEE WAS 22 FORMALLY -- OVER SAW THE PUC. 23 MR. SHIELDS: GOOD IDEA. THAT'S A VERY GREAT 24 SUGGESTION. THANK YOU. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. OCTOBER 27, 2011 85 1 MR. SHIELDS: THANK YOU. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: AND BRING HIM ON EARLIER THAN 3 LATER. 4 MR. SHIELDS: THANK YOU. 5 SO I WILL GET OUT OF THE WAY, COORDINATOR BYNUM, 6 PLEASE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU KNOW IN THE MEANTIME, THE 9 QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, TRUSTEE WONG, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY 10 ADDRESS THAT TO THE CHANCELLOR BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THAT 11 GOT THE LETTER OF DOOM. AND I'M SURE HE COULD GIVE US 12 MORE INCITE AS TO WHAT IT SAID, AND WHAT HIS PLANS ARE IN 13 TERMS OF ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WELL, I DON'T WANT TO 15 INTERRUPT THE PRESENTATION VERY MUCH, BUT WE ARE SETTING 16 UP MEETINGS WITH THE DIRECTOR OF THE PUC, AND THAT'S BEEN 17 SCHEDULED. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THE 18 MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED. BUT THIS IS 19 NOT QUITE THE MOMENT. WE ARE HOPING THAT IN A COUPLE OF 20 WEEKS IT WILL BE A BETTER MOMENT. 21 MR. BYNUM: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR 23 THE RECORD. 24 MR. BYNUM: I'M SORRY. TORRANCE BYNUM. GOOD 25 EVENING, TRUSTEES, CHANCELLOR, FACULTY, STAFF, COMMUNITY. OCTOBER 27, 2011 86 1 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO AT THE SOUTHEAST 2 CAMPUS, WE BEGAN TO EXAMINE THE WAY WE ARE DOING BUSINESS. 3 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WAYS WE PROVIDED SERVICES TO OUR 4 STUDENTS, THE ROLES OF OUR FACULTY, ALONG WITH REVIEWING 5 THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY. 6 IN ORDER TO FULFILL OUR MISSION, WE ARE 7 BRAINSTORMING AND WE ARE REEXAMINING THE AREAS OF NEED. 8 WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND PROVIDE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF 9 EDUCATION TO OUR STUDENT BODY. AND WE DO HAVE A 10 POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. 11 IT IS OUR GOAL TO PROVIDE A SOUND LEARNING 12 ENVIRONMENT AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 13 MS. JACKSON: TURN OUT THE LIGHTS. 14 MR. BYNUM: THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE. 15 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: USE THE FLASHLIGHT. 16 MR. BYNUM: IS THERE A FLASHLIGHT? THANK YOU SO 17 MUCH. 18 SO WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME AREAS OF CONCERN. AND 19 WE STARTED OFF WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND THE DIVERSITY. 20 MOST OF OUR STUDENTS AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS ARE FROM THE 21 94124 WHICH IS THE BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. THE 94134 WHICH 22 IS VISITACION VALLEY. AND THE 94107 WHICH IS POTRERO 23 HILL. 24 IN THE SPRING OF 2011, WE LOOKED AT OUR LATEST 25 CENSUS. AND 27 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS WERE FROM THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 87 1 94124. 23 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENTS ARE FROM THE 94134 2 VISITACION VALLEY/BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. AND AGAIN, 2.5 3 FROM THE POTRERO HILL. 4 AND THEN WE GOT A -- WE DID A CENSUS OF THE 5 ETHNIC BACKGROUND OF OUR STUDENTS. AND AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, 6 THE AREA AND THE DYNAMICS AND DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE AREA OF 7 THE 94124, 94134, AND 94107 IS RAPIDLY CHANGING. 8 36 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENT BODY AT THE SOUTHEAST 9 CAMPUS IS ASIAN AMERICAN. 32 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENT BODY 10 AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS IS AFRICAN AMERICAN. 12 PERCENT 11 OF OUR STUDENT BODY IS HISPANIC. 2 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENT 12 BODY IS PACIFIC ISLANDER. AND 1 PERCENT OF OUR STUDENT 13 BODY IS CAUCASIAN. 14 SO THEN WE LOOKED AT, AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING 15 AT AND REVIEWING, THE ROLE THAT WE PLAY AT CITY COLLEGE. 16 AND OUR ROLE IS TO ENSURE THAT STUDENTS HAVE THE BEST 17 EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES PROVIDED WITHIN CITY COLLEGE OF 18 SAN FRANCISCO. WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN 19 CERTIFICATES. WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE 20 THEIR ASSOCIATE DEGREES IN THE ARTS AND SCIENCE. WE WANT 21 OUR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER TO FOUR-YEAR 22 UNIVERSITIES. AND WE ALSO WANT OUR STUDENTS TO HAVE 23 CAREER TRAINING AT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 24 SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS WE ARE GOING TO 25 PROVIDE THE NECESSARY TOOLS SO OUR STUDENTS WILL BE ABLE OCTOBER 27, 2011 88 1 TO PARTICIPATE IN THE LOCAL AND GLOBAL ECONOMY. IT IS 2 CRUCIAL THAT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO PROMOTE 3 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND AS WELL, WE WANT TO CREATE JOB 4 GROWTH. 5 WE'VE IDENTIFIED OUR STUDENTS VIA DEMOGRAPHICS 6 AND THEIR EDUCATIONAL LEVELS. WE FOUND THAT MANY OF OUR 7 STUDENTS NEED GENERAL EDUCATION CLASSES, BASIC SKILL 8 CLASSES. WE NEED ENGLISH, MATH, WRITING, AND ENGLISH AS A 9 SECOND LANGUAGE CLASSES. 10 WE ALSO HAVE FOUND THAT A LOT OF THE STUDENTS AT 11 THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, THEY ARE ENROLLED IN THE CERTIFICATE 12 PROGRAM. AND MANY OF THESE STUDENTS ARE HIGH SCHOOL 13 DROPOUTS. SO THEREFORE, WE'VE GOT TO PROVIDE BASIC SKILL 14 CLASSES FOR THIS POPULATION. 15 OUR CURRICULUM IN THE FALL, WE LOOKED AT AND WE 16 HAVE FOUND THAT WE OFFER -- WE ARE OFFERING MORE CREDIT 17 AND NON-CREDIT CLASSES. IN THE FALL, WE OFFERED 18 ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE CLASSES. THOSE CLASSES WERE 19 FULL. WE OFFERED FIRE SCIENCE CLASSES. THOSE CLASS 20 NUMBERS ARE GOOD. WE'VE OFFERED A CHILD DEVELOPMENT 21 CLASS. THAT CLASS IS GOOD. 22 WE'VE ALSO OFFERED NON-CREDIT COURSE IN FASHION 23 AND SEWING ALTERATION. THAT CLASS IS FULL. THERE ARE 24 STUDENTS AND A LOT OF SENIOR CITIZENS WHO ARE WITHIN THE 25 COMMUNITY. OCTOBER 27, 2011 89 1 WE OFFERED A MICROSOFT OFFICE APPLICATION CLASS. 2 IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE HAVE -- WE ARE OFFERING 3 ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE LEVELS 1-8. WE FIND THAT 4 BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION AND THE EDUCATIONAL LEVEL AND 5 NEEDS, ESL, ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE, IS NEEDED 6 STARTING AT LEVEL 1 AND THEN THE STUDENT ADVANCES TO LEVEL 7 8. 8 SO AGAIN, OUR EDUCATIONAL GOALS IS TO OFFER 9 CLASSES AND PROGRAMS THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE STUDENTS' 10 SUCCESS. 11 IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED ADEQUATE SPACE. IT 12 IS CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 13 WE NEED ADEQUATE CLASSROOMS. WE NEED ADEQUATE SPACE FOR 14 FACULTY SERVICES. WE NEED ADEQUATE SPACE FOR STUDENT 15 SERVICES. WE NEED ADEQUATE SPACE FOR PROGRAM SERVICES AND 16 WE NEED ADEQUATE SPACE FOR OUR SUPPORT STAFF SERVICES. 17 WE HAVE ENVISIONED A PROPOSED ONE-STOP CENTER. 18 IN THAT ONE-STOP CENTER, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A ONE-STOP 19 STUDENT SERVICE CENTER. AND THAT CENTER WOULD INCLUDE 20 ADMISSIONS, MATRICULATION SERVICES, NEW STUDENT 21 COUNSELING, FINANCIAL AID COUNSELING, EXTENDED OPPORTUNITY 22 PROGRAM SERVICE, EOPS, SECOND CHANCE PROGRAM, THE DISABLED 23 STUDENT PROGRAM SERVICES, DSPS. WE WOULD WANT TO ADD A 24 TUTORIAL PROGRAM IN THIS ONE-STOP STUDENT SERVICE CENTER, 25 ALONG WITH AN AREA FOR OUR ASSOCIATE STUDENT COUNCIL OCTOBER 27, 2011 90 1 SERVICES, A CAREER COUNSELING SERVICE, AND AN AREA FOR OUR 2 STUDENT AMBASSADORS. 3 TO FUNCTION AS A FULL COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WE 4 WOULD ALSO NEED AGAIN THE ADEQUATE CLASSROOMS. AND WHEN I 5 MEAN, "THE ADEQUATE CLASSROOM," AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE OF 6 MANY OF OUR INSTRUCTORS ARE USING COMPUTERS NOW. WE ARE 7 MOVING INTO THE TECHNOLOGY WORLD. WE NEED THAT IN THE 8 CLASSROOMS. 9 AND THEN WE NEED AN AREA FOR OUR FACULTY. IT IS 10 IMPORTANT THAT THE FACULTY HAVE AN AREA WHERE THEY CAN 11 MEET ONE-ON-ONE WITH STUDENTS. THEY CAN HAVE BREAK TIMES. 12 THEY ALSO NEED OFFICES. AND WE DO NEED AN AREA FOR OUR 13 FACULTY TO HAVE MAILBOXES. 14 WE NEED AN AREA FOR OUR STUDENTS. IT IS 15 IMPORTANT THAT OUR STUDENTS FEEL COMFORTABLE WITHIN THEIR 16 STUDIES. WE WOULD WANT THE STUDENTS AREA TO BE A 17 MULTIPURPOSE USE AREA WHERE THEY COULD MEET WITH OTHER 18 STUDENTS IN BETWEEN CLASSES. WE WOULD ALSO WANT ADEQUATE 19 SPACE FOR A MEDIA RESEARCH CENTER. 20 AND IN THIS MEDIA RESEARCH CENTER, WE WOULD WANT 21 A LIBRARY THAT WOULD CONSIST OF COMPUTER LABS, SINGLE 22 STUDY ROOMS, GROUP STUDY ROOMS, OPEN STUDY ROOM AREA, AND 23 A LABORATORY FACILITY. 24 WE NEED ADEQUATE AREA FOR A BOOKSTORE. IT IS 25 CRUCIAL THAT WE HAVE A BOOKSTORE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 91 1 NECESSARY BOOKS FOR OUR STUDENTS ON CAMPUS. WE HAVE 2 DISCUSSED A BOOK LOAN PROGRAM BEING ON -- WITHIN THE 3 CAMPUS. WE NEED ADEQUATE SPACE FOR A BOOK LOAN PROGRAM. 4 AND IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO THE 5 BOARD AND THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, UNDER THE 6 LEADERSHIP OF CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN AND WITH THE APPOINTMENT 7 OF VICE CHANCELLOR BELL, WE ARE FOCUSED -- WE'VE BECOME A 8 FOCUS POINT IN THE COMMUNITY. UNDER THE DIRECTIVES OF 9 VICE CHANCELLOR BELL AND HIS LEADERSHIP, WE'VE BECOME MORE 10 VISIBLE. 11 VICE CHANCELLOR BELL HAS ASSURED THE COMMUNITY, 12 THE STUDENT BODY, THE FACULTY, THE SOUTHEAST 13 COMMISSIONERS, THE COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND MYSELF THAT WE 14 ARE 100 PERCENT COMMITTED. 15 WE ARE NOW ATTENDING THE SOUTHEAST 16 COMMISSIONER'S MEETINGS. WE ARE DOING PRESENTATIONS 17 WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE NOW MEMBERS OF A PUBLIC 18 SAFETY PANEL WHICH IS HELD IN THE BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. 19 WE WANT TO OFFER MORE CLASSES TO OUR COMMUNITY. 20 WE FIND THAT THE GED PROGRAM IS A PROGRAM THAT WOULD 21 BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE IN TALKS WITH A LOCAL CBO 22 FOR WRAPAROUND SERVICES. WE ARE IN TALKS WITH THE SCHOOL 23 DISTRICT. WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED, VIA THE SCHOOL 24 DISTRICT, ON A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE GRANT FUNDED IN WHICH 25 KIDS -- PARENTS OF KIDS FROM THE AGES OF K-5 ATTEND OCTOBER 27, 2011 92 1 SOUTH -- EXCUSE ME. ATTEND CITY COLLEGE AS SOUTHEAST TO 2 RECEIVE THEIR GED. 3 THERE HAS BEEN A SURVEY THROUGHOUT THE 4 COMMUNITY, VIA THE SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, 5 THAT THERE ARE MANY PARENTS IN THE 94124, 94134, AND 6 94107, THEY DO NOT HAVE A GED OR HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. WE 7 WOULD WANT TO BEGIN WITH THE GED. AND THEN TRANSFER THOSE 8 STUDENTS ONTO ENTRY LEVEL CLASSES AT SOUTHEAST CAMPUS VIA 9 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 10 WE HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD. THAT ADVISORY BOARD 11 CONSISTS OF MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY LEADERS, 12 LAW ENFORCEMENT, SOCIAL SERVICES, CITY COLLEGE 13 ADMINISTRATORS, AS WELL AS CITY COLLEGE FACULTY AND STAFF. 14 AND IN CLOSING, I WANT TO SAY, I KNOW THAT WE 15 ARE FACED WITH AN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING ECONOMICAL TIME, 16 BUT WE HAVE TO BE 100 PERCENT COMMITTED TO PROVIDING 17 ADEQUATE SPACE SO THAT THAT CAMPUS CAN FUNCTION AS A 18 COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 19 AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVERY STUDENT 20 ATTENDING CITY COLLEGE, ATTENDING THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS 21 HAVE A SOUND EDUCATIONAL -- BE A PART OF A SOUND 22 EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. 23 AND TO THE COMMUNITY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR 24 YOUR WARM WELCOME. ON BEHALF OF VICE CHANCELLOR BELL, YOU 25 HAVE BEEN VERY KIND. WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER. WE ARE OCTOBER 27, 2011 93 1 HERE TO REKINDLE A RELATIONSHIP. AND I DO APPRECIATE 2 EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 AVC BELL: DR. ROBERSON WILL CONCLUDE THIS 5 PRESENTATION. 6 DR. ROBERSON: GOOD EVENING, VICE CHANCELLOR 7 GRIFFIN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, COMMUNITY 8 LEADERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES FROM 9 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 10 I WOULD LIKE TO AT THIS TIME SUMMARIZE THE KEY 11 ELEMENTS OF OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. AND THAT IS TO 12 HIGHLIGHT WHAT ARE THE CORE ELEMENTS THAT WILL ENABLE US 13 TO ENABLE THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY TO THRIVE, TO BE 14 VIBRANT. AND THAT IS THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A 15 HEALTHY COMMUNITY THROUGH TWO KEY COMPONENTS. 16 ONE, THE ROAD MAP TO CERTIFICATES THAT LEAD TO 17 JOBS THAT ENABLE ENTRY -- INDUSTRIAL LEVEL ENTRY TO THE 18 WORLD OF ECONOMY AND SUPPORT FOR ADVANCE IN THE SOCIAL 19 ECONOMIC LEVEL IN THE COMMUNITY. 20 AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? 21 WE DO THAT BY ENABLING AND PROVIDING 22 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO RECEIVE THE KIND OF 23 TRAINING THAT BILL TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF VERY SPECIFIC 24 AREAS THAT WILL ENABLE THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A READY 25 WORKFORCE TO ENTER INTO THE KIND OF COMMUNITY JOBS THAT OCTOBER 27, 2011 94 1 ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. 2 THE INDUSTRY ALWAYS LOOKS FOR THE WORKFORCE IN 3 THE IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT. WELL, THE IMMEDIATE 4 ENVIRONMENT IS SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 5 SECONDLY, WE WOULD BENEFIT BY A PARTNERSHIP WITH 6 THE -- WITH INDUSTRY BECAUSE WE WOULD BE PROVIDING A READY 7 POOL OF QUALIFIED APPLICANTS THAT ARE READY TO TAKE ON THE 8 JOBS AS THEY OPEN IN THE INDUSTRY THAT WE ALREADY TALKED 9 ABOUT. 10 SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT IS OUR INTENT TO 11 OFFER THE TYPE OF LEARNING CLIMATE AND LEARNING 12 ENVIRONMENT THAT ENABLES STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO 13 BELONG. 14 AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? 15 WE DO THAT BY BREAKING DOWN THIS CONCEPT OF 16 ANONYMITY WHICH AFFECTS COMMUNITY COLLEGE SO GREATLY WHERE 17 PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A SENSE THAT THEY BELONG, THAT THEY ARE 18 CARED FOR. 19 AND HOW DO WE INTEND TO DO THAT? 20 AS AGAIN, WE MENTIONED EARLIER IN OUR 21 PRESENTATION, BY CREATING THE SINGLE-STOP CENTER WHERE OUR 22 SUPPORT SERVICE PROFESSIONALS WORK TOGETHER IN A 23 CROSS-REFERENCE PERSPECTIVE SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO REFER 24 THE STUDENTS TO THE PERSON THAT HAS THE PROPER SERVICE, 25 WHETHER IT'S FINANCIAL AID OR ACCESS TO FOOD OR OCTOBER 27, 2011 95 1 TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OR SCHOLARSHIPS. AND BY DOING 2 THIS IN A PLACE THAT IS VISIBLE AND READILY ACCESSIBLE TO 3 THE STUDENTS. 4 WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES 5 THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE UNDER SUCH A MODEL. 6 AND THEN FINALLY, TO REALLY BE AN ACTIVE AND 7 FULLY ENGAGED PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, 8 INDUSTRIES, COMMUNITY AGENCIES, THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES 9 THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. AND A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT 10 IS OUR ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT IN PURSUING OTHER FUNDING 11 SOURCES. 12 AT THE MOMENT, WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE 13 REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SECOND 14 CHANCE GRANT. THAT WILL ENABLE US TO AGAIN ESTABLISH A 15 PARTNERSHIP WITH THE THREE KEY COMPONENTS. 16 ONE, WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY. NO. 2, 17 WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION THAT WILL 18 PROVIDE KEY HEALTH SUPPORT SERVICES. AND NO. 3, FOR US TO 19 BE ABLE TO FOCUS SOUTHEAST ASIA (SIC) BOTH IN TERMS OF THE 20 COURSE REQUIREMENTS AND ENTRY LEVEL INTO THE TRAINING 21 WORLD OF WORK. 22 AND SO IT REALLY IS A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR FOR 23 ME TO BE A PART OF THIS DIVISION THAT IS COMMITTED TO THE 24 ADVANCEMENT OF SOUTHEAST ASIA (SIC) -- SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY 25 COLLEGE. SOUTHEAST ASIA, YES, SO MANY ASIANS ARE COMING OCTOBER 27, 2011 96 1 TO THE COMMUNITY. WE NEED THOSE PARTNERS WITH US. AND WE 2 NEED THE LATINO PARTNERS BECAUSE IT TRULY IS A 3 MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY. SO THIS HAS BEEN MY WORLD OF 4 WORK SO FAR. AND I AM DELIGHTED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO JOIN 5 THIS GREAT TEAM. 6 AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON MY VICE 7 CHANCELLOR TO MAKE THE CLOSING REMARKS. 8 AVC BELL: SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE 9 BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS AND SUPPORT A 10 FULL-SERVICE CAMPUS AT THE SOUTHEAST FACILITY. 11 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO HAD THE EXPERTISE 12 ON HOW TO BRING THE MISSION AND THE VISION OF CITY COLLEGE 13 TO THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF 14 THE MISSION CAMPUS, CHINATOWN CAMPUS, JOHN ADAMS, CIVIC 15 CENTER, EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A CAMPUS 16 COMMUNITY COLLEGE. WE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THEM FOR THE 17 COMMUNITY. AND SO WE'RE READY. 18 AND, RIGHT NOW, I JUST ASKED THE BOARD AND 19 DR. GRIFFIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND DIRECTION. AND I AM HERE 20 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 I THINK WHAT WE WILL DO -- THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN 23 PATIENT. WE'VE ALREADY HAD INTRODUCTIONS BY THE 24 CO-SPONSORS OF THE RESOLUTION, S5. SO I THINK WHAT WE 25 WILL DO NOW IS TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON S5 AND THEN A OCTOBER 27, 2011 97 1 DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD. 2 THANK YOU, VICE CHANCELLOR. 3 SO I HAVE SOME CARDS HERE. I HAVE LANCE BURTON. 4 MR. BURTON: GOOD EVENING, TRUSTEES, AND 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN. 6 LANCE BURTON, PLANET FILLMORE COMMUNICATIONS. I 7 OPERATE A CERTIFIED LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE. AND IT IS 8 ENDORSED BY THE NAACP. AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE 9 AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE BAY AREA BLACK 10 JOURNALIST ASSOCIATION, AMONG OTHERS. 11 I HAPPENED TO BE AT THAT MEETING THE OTHER 12 MORNING AT THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION. 13 AND I COULD TELL YOU DEAD ON EXACTLY WHAT GENERAL MANAGER 14 ED HARRINGTON SAID ABOUT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT 15 THAT HE THOUGHT FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS THIS CAMPUS HAS DONE 16 NOTHING TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF THAT COMMUNITY IN 17 SOUTHEAST. AND HE AS HE WALKS AROUND THAT CAMPUS OR AS HE 18 HAD WALKED AROUND THAT CAMPUS, HE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING 19 GOING ON. 20 AND I COULD TESTIFY THAT HE IS CORRECT. I HAVE 21 BEEN OUT TO THAT CAMPUS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. MY HISTORY 22 WITH THE CAMPUS GOES BACK TO 1969. THIS BOARD AT THAT 23 SAME PERIOD OF TIME WHEN HARRY BUTTIMER, DR. BATMALE, 24 HENRY LEFF RAN THIS MEDIA CENTER, AND GLENN NANCE AND I 25 CREATED A COURSE TO HELP YOUNG PEOPLE OF COLOR FIGURE OUT OCTOBER 27, 2011 98 1 HOW TO GET A MEDIA CAREER IN PLACE. 2 AND I COULD SAY THAT IT REALLY DOES HURT ME THAT 3 WHEN THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS WAS PUT TOGETHER, THE -- CITY 4 COLLEGE DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO HELP THAT COMMUNITY BECOME 5 CONNECTED INTO IT. THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DID 6 QUITE WELL OVER THOSE PAST 30 YEARS, BUT THE 7 AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY DID NOT. AND I DON'T SEE WHERE 8 THE CAMPUS HAS ACTUALLY PUT THE RESOURCES IT NEEDED TO 9 REALLY DIG INTO THAT COMMUNITY, TO BRING THOSE KIDS OUT OF 10 THAT HILLSIDE AND ACTUALLY ONTO EVANS CAMPUS OR ONTO THE 11 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 12 AND I CAN SAY WITH A CERTAIN ALACRITY THAT NO 13 ONE WAS OUT THERE TRYING TO BRING YOUNG BLACK MEN AND 14 YOUNG BLACK WOMEN ONTO THOSE CAMPUSES. THERE WAS A 15 BEAUTIFUL EVANS CAMPUS WITH A WONDERFUL AUTOMOTIVE CENTER, 16 STATE OF THE ART SITTING THERE. AND THOSE KIDS WERE JUST 17 THREE BLOCKS AWAY. NO ONE PUT ANY EFFORT INTO GOING TO 18 GET THOSE KIDS. I QUITE FRANKLY BELIEVE THAT THE DISTRICT 19 WAS AFRAID. 20 RECENTLY, THE CHANCELLOR PROVIDED ME THE 21 OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO THIS CITY'S WESTERN ADDITION TO TRY 22 TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD BRING BACK 17 TO 25 YEAR OLD 23 AFRICAN AMERICANS INTO THE CAMPUS. I APPRECIATE THAT 24 OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE, TO ANALYZE, TO ASSESS, AND TO MAKE 25 SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CHANCELLOR ON WHAT WOULD NEED OCTOBER 27, 2011 99 1 TO BE DONE TO GET OUR YOUNG BROTHERS AND SISTERS BACK ON 2 TRACK AS 500 NEW TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES HAVE ARRIVED IN SAN 3 FRANCISCO IN THE LAST THREE TO FOUR YEARS WHICH MAKES UP 4 THE NEW BACKBONE OF THE ECONOMY OF SAN FRANCISCO. AND 5 YET, OUR KIDS ARE NOWHERE IN SIGHT SOUTH OF MARKET. 6 WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT CREATING LIMITED 7 ENTRY-LEVEL JOBS FOR THESE KIDS WHO, AS I HAVE FOUND OUT, 8 MOSTLY ARE INCARCERATED, 47 PERCENT OF OUR COMMUNITY OF 9 YOUNG PEOPLE IN THAT AGE GROUP ARE INCARCERATED AND DO NOT 10 HAVE THE UNFORTUNATE SKILL SET NEEDED TO COMPETE ON AN 11 ACADEMIC LEVEL AT THE CITY COLLEGE LEVEL JUST YET. 12 HOWEVER, THE GREAT NEWS IS FIVE KEYS CHARTER 13 SCHOOL PROGRAM HAS BEGUN TO REACH INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND 14 HAS BEGAN TO HELP THESE KIDS GET GED'S AND HIGH SCHOOL 15 DIPLOMAS SO THAT AS I HELP THE CHANCELLOR TO UNDERSTAND, 16 WE CAN MATRICULATE THEM DIRECTLY INTO JOHN ADAMS OR INTO 17 SOUTHEAST CAMPUS OR INTO EVANS OR 50 PHELAN AVENUE FOR 18 THAT MATTER. 19 I STAND HERE AS A TESTIMONY TO WHAT CAN HAPPEN 20 AS I WAS A KID IN THE FILLMORE WHILE IT WAS REDEVELOPING. 21 I WAS A KID IN THE HAIGHT-ASHBURY WHILE IT WAS FOCUSED AS 22 HIPPIES. AND I GOT INTO ALL THE TROUBLE. AND IF IT 23 WEREN'T FOR JULIAN RICHARDSON, THE FOUNDER OF THE MARCUS 24 BOOKSTORE, AL HICKS, WHO WAS ONE OF THE FIRST INDIVIDUALS 25 TO RUN FOR AN ELECTIVE OFFICE HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO, AND OCTOBER 27, 2011 100 1 MR. BURL TOLER, WHO GAVE SOME DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE TO A 2 YOUNG JERK LIKE ME TO FIND HIS WAY ONTO THE CAMPUS AT A 3 TIME WHEN THE SAN FRANCISCO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT SPLIT 4 OFF 19 YEAR OLDS TO GO TO JOHN OR JOHN ADAMS HIGH SCHOOL, 5 ADULT HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. 6 BUT AS I SAID TO YOU, I WON'T KEEP YOU. I THINK 7 I'M OVER MY TIME AND I APOLOGIZE. BUT I AM VERY 8 PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. 9 THERE IS A REPORT THAT I SUBMITTED TO THE 10 CHANCELLOR ON JULY 15TH THAT OUTLINES MUCH OF WHAT I HAVE 11 DISCOVERED OVER THE COURSE OF THE NINE MONTHS THAT HE 12 ENABLED ME TO PROVIDE SUCH INFORMATION. AND I AM HAPPY TO 13 PROVIDE THAT TO ANYONE WHO WOULD CARE TO REVIEW IT. THANK 14 YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THE NEXT I HAVE 16 ESPANOLA JACKSON. 17 MS. JACKSON: GOOD AFTERNOON. ESPANOLA JACKSON. 18 I AM COMING WITH A DIFFERENT THING HERE. IN THE 19 PAST, WE DIDN'T HAVE THINGS HAPPENING AT THAT COLLEGE. I 20 WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. 21 WHEN I LEARNED -- I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME 22 HISTORY HERE -- WHEN I LEARNED THAT PUC WAS OVER AT THE 23 COLLEGE AND MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE COLLEGE, THAT'S WHEN 24 I SAID, NO WAY, JOSE. BECAUSE OF THE FACT PUC WAS NOT 25 EVEN FORMED AT THE TIME. OCTOBER 27, 2011 101 1 WHEN THAT FACILITY WAS BUILT, IT WAS BECAUSE OF 2 MITIGATION, AND IT WAS FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING. IT WAS 3 TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTE, NOT FOR WHAT THE PUC 4 WANTS. 5 NOW I KNOW YOU ARE ALL GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO 6 SEE WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO PUC. I TOLD THEM I WANT TO CEASE 7 AND DESIST. 8 AND WHAT I WANT YOU ALL TO DO IS TALK 9 COMMISSIONER COURTNEY BECAUSE HE STATED HE WAS WILLING TO 10 WORK WITH US, WITH THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS HIS STATEMENT. 11 BECAUSE OF THE FACT I STATED MY COMMISSION TO SOUTHEAST 12 FACILITY COMMISSION IS THE ONE THAT MADE THE DECISION, 13 ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY TO WHAT GOES ON IN THAT COLLEGE. 14 THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS 15 THERE. 16 AND I WANT TO SAY ALSO, I HAVE CONCERNS WITH ONE 17 OF THE GROUP MEMBERS THAT YOU MENTIONED BECAUSE OF THE 18 FACT THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING IN MY COMMUNITY. IF YOUR 19 GOING TO DEAL WITH THE COMMUNITY CBO'S, THAT'S FINE. I AM 20 TALKING ABOUT YCD AND OTHER GROUPS FROM THE AREA. BUT 21 WHEN YOU COME AND TALKING ABOUT CITY BUILD, CITY BUILD 22 AIN'T THE ONE, PERIOD, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN THE 23 COMMUNITY. THEY ARE DOWNTOWN. AND MY PEOPLE DON'T BE 24 TRAVELING AND GO IN THE OTHER AREAS BECAUSE OF TURF. SO 25 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR OCTOBER 27, 2011 102 1 COMMUNITY. 2 I WANT YOU ALL TO SUPPORT THE IDEAS THAT WAS 3 BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ACTING DEAN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE 4 SERVICES THAT WE -- 5 HUH? 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TORRANCE. 7 MR. BYNUM: I'M THE COORDINATOR. 8 MS. JACKSON: WELL, I AM CALLING YOU MY DEAN, 9 OKAY? 10 BECAUSE I REFERRED TO HIM AS THE DEAN OF 11 SOUTHEAST BECAUSE THIS YOUNG MAN HAD CAME OUT AND HAS 12 CHANGED A LOT OF THINGS AROUND AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING 13 THERE. AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IS WHAT 14 HE HAS BROUGHT TO YOU TONIGHT, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE NOW ARE 15 AT THAT COLLEGE BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR 16 PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO LEARN TO READ AND WRITE. 17 AND I WANT TO SAY TO YOU ABOUT EVANS CAMPUS. 18 THE REASON EVANS CAMPUS WAS PLACED THERE IS BECAUSE OF 19 YOUNG MEN HAD TAKEN THE TIRES OFF THE BACK OF MY CAR, AND 20 THEY FOLLOWED THE TRUCK AND WENT INTO WHERE THEY TOOK THE 21 TRUCK -- DO YOU KNOW THEY TOOK THE TWO FRONT WHEELS OFF? 22 SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, THESE YOUNG MAN CAN'T READ. 23 IF THERE'S A SIGN SAYING, STOP OR IF YOU HAVE NUT ON THE 24 BOARD, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. WHAT WE NEED, I 25 SAID IS TO HAVE A GED EDUCATIONAL TRAINING TO TEACH THESE OCTOBER 27, 2011 103 1 YOUNG MEN HOW TO READ I SAID BECAUSE -- AND DO MECHANICS I 2 SAID BECAUSE THEY'VE BECOME THE BEST MECHANICS IN THE CITY 3 BECAUSE THEY CAN TAKE THEM CARS APART AND PUT THEM 4 TOGETHER IN 15 MINUTES. THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE 5 THAT CAMPUS OVER THERE. YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS FUNNY, BUT 6 IT'S REAL. 7 AND I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU. I'VE TALKED WITH 8 THE HEAD OF THE DA'S OFFICE NOW, CAME OUT, AND WE HAVE SET 9 UP IN THE COMMUNITY A POLICE COMMUNITY POLICING BOARD. 10 AND IF A YOUNG MAN GET (A LACK IVES) -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT 11 IT'S CALLED, A PETTY CRIME. HE AGREED THAT THEY WOULD -- 12 HOW IS THAT PUT -- YEAH, THE COMMUNITY COURT. 13 INSTEAD OF SENDING THE YOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE TO 14 SWEEP THE STREETS, THAT THEY BE -- THERE WAS ANOTHER WORD. 15 I CAN'T THINK OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I HAD IT THAT NIGHT 16 WHERE IT WOULD BE MANDATED THAT THEY COME TO THE CITY 17 COLLEGE TO GET THEIR GED. YOU SEE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD 18 THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN A COMMUNITY IF WE JUST PUT OUR 19 MINDS TO IT. 20 AND I AM GOING TO SIT DOWN, BUT I WANT TO THANK 21 YOU ALL. AND BECAUSE I AM HERE FOR THE SUPPORT OF MY DEAN 22 AND THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND ALSO FOR MY 23 CHANCELLOR AND THE COMMUNITY IS HERE TO GIVE THEIR SUPPORT 24 TOO BECAUSE SEE WE NEED YOU AND YOU NEED US. 25 AND I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, BABY -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 104 1 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 2 MS. JACKSON: -- I WANT YOU ALL TO GO TO THE 3 MAYOR'S OFFICE. I WANT YOU TO LET THE MAYOR KNOW TO STOP 4 THEM FOLKS OVER THERE AT THE PUC FOR MAKING ANY DECISIONS 5 FOR MY COLLEGE. THAT'S ESPANOLA JACKSON'S COLLEGE, OKAY. 6 THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NEXT IS INGRID WYNN. 8 MS. WYNN: THANK YOU. 9 SO BACK TO S5. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE 10 TO DO IS ACTUALLY ASK THE COLLEGE TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION 11 THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY COLLEGE 12 EITHER, A, FIND ANOTHER LOCATION THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CALL 13 OUR OWN. 14 THESE ARE JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE AS FAR 15 AS PEOPLE GOING BACK ON THEIR WORDS, MOST OF US FROM THIS 16 ROOM WE WERE THERE IN THE SUMMER WHEN THE PUC CAME OUT 17 THERE, AND THEY PROMISED ALL THESE GREAT AND WONDERFUL 18 THINGS. THEY SAID, THEY WERE GOING TO SUPPORT US. THEY 19 SAID, THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE US MONEY FOR CLASSES AND SO 20 FORTH. SO IT WAS A GREAT SELL. BUT TO LOOK ON IT NOW, 21 YOU FIND OUT THAT WE WANT TO RENEGE AND REDUCE US TO ONE 22 FLOOR. 23 I FEEL ANOTHER SUGGESTION IS WHY DON'T WE JUST 24 SUE THEM FOR THE YEARS THAT WE HAVE LEFT AS FAR AS RENT 25 TIME, MAYBE THEY CAN ALSO PAY FOR THE CLASSES THAT WE OCTOBER 27, 2011 105 1 WOULD HAVE HAD. THEY COULD PAY FOR ADMINISTRATION FEES, 2 STAFF FEES, AND A.S.E. FEES. 3 BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY SAID A LOT OF THINGS 4 THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PROMISE THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY 5 GOT THEIR MONEY -- SO THEY GOT THEIR MONEY. NOW THEY ARE 6 TRYING TO LEAVE US OUT. WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING SO WHAT ARE 7 WE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO DOING? 8 WE NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER PLAN BESIDES 9 SAYING, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WANT TO FIGHT, AND WE WANT 10 YOU TO GO BACK TO YOUR SUMMER AGREEMENT AND SAY WHAT YOU 11 WERE GOING TO GIVE US. IF THAT'S NOT AN OPTION, WE NEED 12 TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER OPTION. WE NEED TO TRY TO SECURE A 13 COMMUNITY THAT DOES NEED A CAMPUS. 14 IT'S GREAT WE HAVE EVANS CAMPUS. AND AGAIN, 15 IT'S A VOCATIONAL CAMPUS. 16 AND BY THE WAY, FOR EVERYBODY, I WANT YOU TO 17 KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF MY CLASSES AT EVANS STAY FULL, MY 18 DAY AND NIGHT CLASSES, SO WE ARE AT OUR CAPACITY. 19 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 20 MS. WYNN: WHEN I LOOK AT THE ACADEMIC FROM 21 ANOTHER SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY MY SISTERS' SCHOOL, IT'S 22 IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPORT THAT. 23 AND ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT EVEN 24 THOUGH I HAVE A DEGREE, I DIDN'T GET IT FROM SOUTHEAST, 25 BUT LIVING IN THAT COMMUNITY, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO LOOK OCTOBER 27, 2011 106 1 AT PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO ARE A SUCCESS. I AM NOT A VICTIM. 2 BUT TO MOVE FORWARD AND SAY THAT WE NEED THIS. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 MS. WYNN: WE NEED A COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN THE 5 CAMPUS. THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 OSCAR JAMES. 8 MR. JAMES: GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS OSCAR 9 JAMES. I AM A NATIVE RESIDENT OF BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. 10 I AM ALSO -- PREVIOUSLY, I WAS A COMMISSIONER OF MODEL 11 CITIES WHEN THAT COLLEGE WAS BUILT. I WAS ALSO A MEMBER 12 OF THE COORDINATING COUNCIL. AND I WAS ALSO AN ACTIVE 13 PERSON AT THE BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT COLLEGE. 14 I KNOW A LOT OF YOU MAY HAVE REMEMBERED 15 MRS. BEATRICE DUNBAR, MS. WEBB, DR. GEORGE DAVIS, GEORGE 16 NEWKIRK, MRS. CULVER WHO SAT ON OUR BOARD FOR THE BAYVIEW 17 HUNTERS COLLEGE, FATHER MACKINNON. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE 18 WHO WERE FROM THE BAYVIEW-HUNTERS COLLEGE. THAT WAS THE 19 REASON WE GOT THAT COLLEGE PUT OUT THERE ON EVANS STREET 20 FOR THAT COLLEGE. 21 THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT COLLEGE BEING OPEN, 22 THEY DEFUNDED BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT COLLEGE. SO THEN IT 23 BECAME YOU GUYS. YOU GOT THE BUILDING AND THE COURSES. 24 WE HAD BERKELEY COURSES. WE HAD SAN FRANCISCO STATE 25 COURSES. ALL OF THAT WAS IN BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT OCTOBER 27, 2011 107 1 COLLEGE. 2 THE DEAN WHO CAME NOW, I HAVEN'T MET HIM YET, 3 BUT I LIKE WHAT HE IS DOING OUT THERE. AND I SUPPORT HIM 4 100 PERCENT. 5 NOW THE $5 MILLION THAT THE PUC -- I WAS AT THE 6 PUC MEETING THE OTHER DAY. THE $5 MILLION THAT THEY HAVE 7 FOR THAT COLLEGE, WE DEMAND -- THE COMMUNITY DEMAND THAT 8 MONEY GOES TO BAYVIEW -- TO THAT COLLEGE. WE ALSO DEMAND 9 AND WE WANT OUR BOARD OUT THERE WHO GOVERNS WHAT HAPPENS 10 IN BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT COLLEGE TO GET THAT MONIES AND 11 WORK ALONG WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING THAT THEY 12 PROPOSE TO DO, WE DEMAND FOR THEM TO DO THAT. 13 THEY DO NOT OWN THAT BUILDING. WE AS A 14 COMMUNITY FOUGHT AND GOT THAT BUILDING. AND I DON'T CARE 15 WHAT THE CITY SAYS OR ANYBODY ELSE SAYS, WE WILL CLOSE AND 16 LOCK THE DOORS AND CHAIN THEM AND PUT TRUCKS OUT THERE AND 17 WHAT HAVE YOU TO STOP PUC OR ANYBODY ELSE COMING IN THERE 18 AND TRYING GET OWNERSHIP OF THAT BUILDING. THAT'S OUR 19 BUILDING. 20 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 21 MR. JAMES: THE BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT 22 COMMUNITIES BUILDING. 23 AND WITH YOUR BLESSINGS, WE COULD DO SOMETHING 24 POSITIVE FOR THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. 25 BUT YOU NEED TO PUT A COSMETOLOGY COURSE OUT THERE ALSO OCTOBER 27, 2011 108 1 BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OUT THERE DO 2 HAIR, AND WE NEED THAT TYPE OF COURSE OUT THERE. THANK 3 YOU VERY MUCH. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 THAT'S ALL THE CARDS I HAVE. 6 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE 7 CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? 8 MR. WILLIAMSON: I PUT IN A CARD. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THIS CHESTER WILLIAMS? 10 MR. WILLIAMSON: YES. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU 12 COME ON UP. 13 MR. WILLIAMSON: I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT AND 14 SWEET BECAUSE I AM ONLY HERE TO KIND OF SPEAK ON THE 15 OVERVIEW. 16 ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR ARE 17 STANDING TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS. I 18 THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO BACK DR. GRIFFIN FOR 19 WHAT HE HAS DONE AND WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO IN THE 20 COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT WORK. 21 MY CONCEPT IS -- AND MY SPECIALTY IS TECHNOLOGY. 22 AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S WHERE MY ISSUE IS. I DON'T THINK 23 THE CAMPUS HAS ENOUGH OF THE KINDS OF TRAINING THAT WE 24 NEED IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW. 25 I'VE SPENT OVER TEN YEARS WORKING WITH SILICON OCTOBER 27, 2011 109 1 VALLEY. EVERY MONTH I GO TO HIGH-END MEETINGS DOWN IN 2 SILICON VALLEY. AND I RUB SHOULDERS WITH THE GUYS THAT 3 HAVE THE POWER. AND THEY TELL ME EVERY TIME, EVERY TIME 4 YOU COME DOWN HERE, YOU SAY YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH 5 THE COMMUNITY -- WITH THE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN SAN 6 FRANCISCO. WHEN ARE YOUR PEOPLE GOING TO BE READY? 7 AND I AM TIRED OF GOING THROUGH THAT BECAUSE I 8 KNOW OUR PEOPLE HAVE THE CHANCE AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO BE 9 ABLE TO GET TO SILICON VALLEY. BUT WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY 10 HEARD IS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE CERTAIN SKILLS. 11 AND I, AT THIS POINT, WOULD COMPLIMENT CITY 12 COLLEGE FOR MAKING A GOOD ATTEMPT IN THAT WORK IN THOSE 13 AREAS TO MAKE IT WORK, BUT YOU NEED TO DO MORE. YOU NEED 14 TO DO MORE IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE THAT -- WHAT YOU ARE 15 LOOKING AT NOW IS GOING TO BE WORTH AT LEAST A TRILLION 16 DOLLARS IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS OF THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT 17 ARE GOING ON IN THIS CITY. AND IF HE DON'T HAVE THAT 18 TRAINING, AND WE ARE RIGHT DOWN THE WAY FROM SILICON 19 VALLEY, IT MAKES ME LOOK STUPID BECAUSE I AM SELLING YOU 20 GUYS, BUT YOU GUYS AREN'T SELLING ME. 21 AND SO MY REALITY IS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A 22 CHANGE, BOARD, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE IN WHAT THIS 23 COMMUNITY CAN DO, THEN CITY COLLEGE HAS TO STEP UP TO THE 24 PLATE AND MAKE THIS PARTICULAR WORK. AND I DO THAT 25 BECAUSE I LOVE CITY COLLEGE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 110 1 MY DAD WAS A CUSTODIAN AT CITY COLLEGE. I 2 KNOW -- I'VE WALKED THE HALLS OF PHELAN MANY A DAY. I 3 KNOW THE CAMPUS WELL. I NEVER WENT THERE. I HAD A CHANCE 4 TO GO TO USF, GOT A -- 5 (TIMER SOUNDS.) 6 MR. WILLIAMSON: -- DEGREE AND A MASTERS, SO I 7 KNOW THAT IN THAT AREA. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 MR. WILLIAMSON: BUT, PLEASE, MAKE THE EFFORTS 10 YOU CAN TO MAKE THIS GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN. THANK YOU VERY 11 MUCH. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 13 OKAY, I AM GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 14 TRUSTEES, IS THERE DISCUSSION? 15 TRUSTEE NGO. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 17 I WANT TO THANK THE TRUSTEES FOR BRINGING 18 FORWARD THE RESOLUTION AND PUTTING THE ISSUE BEFORE THE 19 BOARD. 20 I ALSO WANT TO THANK MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY 21 FOR VOICING THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE RESOLUTION AND COMING 22 OUT IN SUPPORT OF NOT JUST THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, BUT ALSO 23 THE REAL SUBSTANCE OF NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS 24 ACCESS TO CLASSES IN BASIC SKILLS CLASSES SO THAT WE ARE 25 PROVIDING A PIPELINE FOR STUDENTS TO ACTUALLY ACCESS THESE OCTOBER 27, 2011 111 1 JOBS, THESE HIGH TECHNOLOGY JOBS THAT ARE IN FACT THE 2 BACKBONE, IF NOT ALREADY THE BACKBONE OF SAN FRANCISCO'S 3 ECONOMY. 4 WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO ACTUALLY IS TO 5 COME BACK WHEN MORE MONEY IS AT STAKE. WHEN WE HAVE A 6 BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU BACK 7 HERE. AND I WANT YOU TO COME BACK HERE AND PETITION US 8 FOR MORE MATH AND SCIENCE AND ENGLISH CLASSES. AND WE 9 WILL HAVE THOSE MEETINGS. 10 AND I THINK THOSE MEETINGS -- YOUR SUPPORT AT 11 THOSE TIMES IS EVEN MORE CRITICAL BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING 12 OVER A $200 MILLION BUDGET. AND WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES 13 WHY ARE WE CUTTING MATH OR NOT CUTTING MATH. WHY AREN'T 14 WE PUTTING MORE ENGLISH CLASSES SOMEWHERE, ESL CLASSES 15 SOMEWHERE. THAT'S WHEN I WANT YOU TO COME BACK. THAT'S 16 WHERE THE RESOURCES WILL ACTUALLY BE DEBATED, HOW IT'S 17 ALLOCATED, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO GO TO SOUTHEAST OR NOT OR 18 SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT. 19 HAVING SAID THAT, I HAVE SOME TECHNICAL 20 QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY -- BECAUSE I KNOW I AM 21 HEARING FROM A VERY CREDIBLE SIDE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING 22 ON IN THE COMMUNITY OF THE SOUTHEAST, BUT I WANT TO 23 UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IS OUR CURRENT USAGE NOW? WHAT 24 ARE WE DOING NOW IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES? 25 BECAUSE I HEARD TRUSTEE JACKSON SAY THAT THE PUC OCTOBER 27, 2011 112 1 OFFERED A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND SUPPORT. AND THEN I HEARD 2 BILL SHIELDS TALK ABOUT ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE WANT 3 THERE, THAT WE HOPE TO GET THERE. AND THAT BEGS A 4 QUESTION WHICH IS WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THOSE PROGRAMS? 5 IF IT WAS PUC, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT BARGAINING 6 POSITION, RIGHT? 7 OKAY, IF IT'S THE DISTRICT, THAT THEN I WOULD 8 WELCOME YOU TO COME BACK TO THESE BUDGET COMMITTEE 9 MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THOSE DECISIONS REALLY GET 10 MADE. 11 SO MY QUESTION IS REALLY HOW ARE YOU -- HOW DO 12 YOU PLAN TO PAY FOR THESE OFFERINGS IF IT'S NOT FROM THE 13 PUC. 14 AND IF IT IS FROM THE PUC, WHAT IS OUR 15 BARGAINING POSITION RELATIVE TO THEM IF WE ARE GOING TO 16 RELY ON FUNDING FOR THEM ON THESE PROGRAMS. 17 AVC BELL: I ALREADY KNOW THAT THE DISTRICT IS 18 IN CRISIS RIGHT NOW, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN START THE 19 DIALOGUE AND START BUILDING THE FRAMEWORK SO WHEN THE TIME 20 IS RIGHT, WE CAN HAVE THE FULL-SERVICE CAMPUS WITH THE 21 APPROPRIATE SERVICES. 22 INITIALLY, PUC INDICATED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO 23 PAY FOR SOME OF THE CLASSES AND SERVICES. AND NOW THEY 24 ARE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. SO WITHOUT PUC'S SUPPORT, OCTOBER 27, 2011 113 1 AND I IMAGINE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EFFORT POLITICALLY TO 2 MAKE THEM GIVE THE MONEY FOR THESE PROGRAMS. BUT IF THAT 3 DOESN'T -- IF THE MONEY IS COMING FROM PUC, HOW DO WE 4 ENSURE THAT WE HAVE MONEY FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE LISTED 5 OFF HERE BECAUSE I WANT THE CAMPUS FULLY SERVED. I LIKE 6 THAT WE'VE HAD ENROLLMENT GO UP TO 1100 STUDENTS. THAT'S 7 A PHENOMENAL JOB BY ALL THE LEADERSHIP IN THE CAMPUS. 8 BUT AS A TECHNICAL QUESTION, WHERE IS THE MONEY 9 GOING TO COME FROM? 10 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: WE HAVE A CUPCAKE SALE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MS. JACKSON, WE'VE CLOSED 12 PUBLIC COMMENT. 13 MS. JACKSON: I KNOW, BUT HE NEED TO KNOW. SEE 14 HE DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU SEE THAT IS -- RIGHT NOW, 15 THERE'S AN EXPANSION GOING ON AT THE SOUTHEAST SEWAGE 16 PLANT. THERE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE 17 COMMUNITY. THERE'S OVER $5 MILLION. THOSE FUNDS ARE TO 18 COME TO BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. AND WE SAID WE WANT IT FOR 19 THE COLLEGE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 21 MS. JACKSON: NOW AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT, 22 YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO TAKE OF IT 23 BECAUSE YOU THE PUC IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER WE WANT 24 DONE AT THAT COLLEGE. AND THEY HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 25 AND IT IS UP TO US AND YOU, AND YOU, AND YOU, AND YOU TO OCTOBER 27, 2011 114 1 MAKE SURE THAT THE MAYOR UNDERSTANDS THE FACT THAT THEY 2 ARE TO GIVE US WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FOR THAT 3 COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER COMMUNITY THAT HAS A 4 SEWAGE PLANT IN THEIR AREA. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. LET ME JUST SAY 7 PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. WE ARE NOW AT DISCUSSION. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU, 9 MS. JACKSON. 10 SO I WANT TO JUST BE CLEAR THAT IF THE PUC IN 11 THE MEANTIME DECIDES NOT TO GIVE THE MONEY, I DON'T KNOW 12 IF THEY WILL OR WON'T, BUT IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM 13 THE DISTRICT? 14 WE ARE GOING TO -- WE ARE NOT -- SO IN THE 15 MEANTIME, WILL THERE BE A LACK OF PROGRAMS UNTIL THAT 16 MONEY IS ALLOCATED OR WILL WE JUST BUDGET IT AND HOPE THAT 17 IT GETS FUNDED. 18 AVC BELL: RIGHT NOW, WE STARTED WITH -- MY 19 INITIAL OBSERVATION IS THAT WE NEEDED A FULL-SERVICE 20 ADMISSIONS OFFICE WHICH NOW WE ARE MOVING IN THAT 21 DIRECTION. 22 WE ALSO, THANKS TO THE STUDENT AMBASSADOR 23 PROGRAM, WE HAVE MORE PRESENCE, AND WE HAVE SOMEONE AT THE 24 AT THE RECEPTION DESK ALL THE TIME NOW. 25 I AM ALSO MAKING ARRANGEMENTS TO MOVE THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 115 1 ADMISSIONS OFFICE FROM THE 5TH FLOOR TO THE MAIN FLOOR, SO 2 IT IS VISIBLE AND STUDENTS WILL HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE 3 ADMISSION'S PROCESS. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 5 AVC BELL: AND I AM ALSO WORKING TRYING TO 6 EXPAND FINANCIAL AID SERVICES, AS WELL AS NEW STUDENT 7 COUNSELING SERVICES FOR -- TO STUDENTS. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK I GOT MY ANSWER. 9 BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS 10 THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE DISTRICT SHOULD SPEND MORE MONEY 11 THERE ANYWAY, WHETHER OR NOT PUC DOES OR NOT. AND THAT'S 12 WHY I ENCOURAGED FROM THE BEGINNING PEOPLE TO COME BACK AT 13 A BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING AND DEMAND THAT WE PUT MORE 14 MONEY THERE BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING INPUT. WE ARE GETTING 15 THE OUTPUT IN TERMS OF THE ENROLLMENT. 16 AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS 17 HAPPENING THERE FINALLY. SO THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE 18 CAN'T MAKE THESE DEMANDS ON OUR OWN FUNDS BECAUSE WE ARE 19 ALL A PUBLIC INSTITUTION. AND MANY IN THE COMMUNITY HERE 20 PAID INTO THOSE TAXES THAT FUND OUR COLLEGE. SO THAT'S -- 21 I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. 22 BUT IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT USAGE NOW, THE WAY 23 IT'S WORKED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COLLEGE DOES, IS IT -- 24 WHAT'S THE DELTA IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD BE OFFERED BUT FOR 25 THE PUC FACILITIES PLAN? OCTOBER 27, 2011 116 1 WHAT'S THE MATERIAL DIFFERENCE BUT FOR THAT PLAN 2 THAT WE WOULD OFFER? 3 AVC BELL: BASICALLY, WE TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY 4 AND WE ARE OFFERING PROGRAMS AND COURSES NECESSARY FOR 5 THEM TO SUCCEED. WE HAVE MATH COURSES. WE ARE TEACHING 6 ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE COURSES, AS WELL AS GED, AND 7 ENGLISH CLASSES. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW GOING ON, 8 AS WELL AS ESL CLASSES. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. SO BUT FOR THE PLAN -- BUT 10 FOR THEIR FACILITIES PLAN, WOULD THAT BE LESSENED 11 SUBSTANTIALLY OR CHANGED AT ALL? 12 AVC BELL: INITIALLY, WE HAD ASKED FOR AT LEAST 13 120,000 SQUARE FEET IN ORDER TO HAVE ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT 14 BILL MENTIONED. 15 RIGHT NOW, THE NEW PROPOSAL IS THAT THE SPACE 16 THAT THEY ARE GIVING US IS ONLY 27,000. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD. 18 AVC BELL: CORRECT. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: NOT NECESSARILY -- IT'S NOT GOING 20 TO LOWER OUR OFFERINGS NOW. 21 AVC BELL: NO. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO WE WOULD HAVE -- YOU WERE 23 PLANNING ON OFFERINGS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY THE 24 PUC, NOT BY THE DISTRICT -- 25 AVC BELL: CORRECT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 117 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TO EXPAND INTO THAT MUCH -- 2 AVC BELL: CORRECT. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: -- OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 4 AVC BELL: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT ONLY RELYING ON FUNDS FROM THE 6 PUC, BUT NOT THE DISTRICT, RIGHT? 7 AVC BELL: CORRECT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: MY LAST QUESTION IS -- WAS 9 THERE -- SO I HEARD THE DATA ON THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT 10 PERCENTAGES. IS THERE -- IS THERE LIKE A SUBSTANTIAL 11 LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENT POPULATION IN SOUTHEAST? AND 12 WOULD SOME OF THE NEW PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED 13 BECAUSE OF THE PUC FUNDING GO TOWARDS ESL SECTIONS OR NOT? 14 BECAUSE I AM LOOKING AT YOUR DATA, AND I AM 15 WONDERING WHETHER YOU'VE SURVEYED THE STUDENTS IN TERMS OF 16 WHAT THEY WANT, AND HOW YOU PLAN TO MEET THOSE NEEDS WITH 17 ANY OF THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE. 18 AVC BELL: YEAH, THE STATISTICS INDICATE THAT WE 19 HAVE ABOUT 32 PERCENT ASIAN POPULATION AND ABOUT 20 12 PERCENT LATINO POPULATION. WE DO OFFER SOME ESL 21 COURSES RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE WE OFFER AT LEAST TWO. ONE 22 OF THEM IS A MULTI-ESL CLASS. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT OCTOBER 27, 2011 118 1 TO START BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BROKEN A RECORD. THIS 2 IS PROBABLY THE LONGEST WE'VE EVER TALKED ABOUT SOUTHEAST 3 CAMPUS OR BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT EVER. 4 SO, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY WANT TO THANK VICE 5 CHANCELLOR JORGE BELL, COORDINATOR, BUT HOPEFULLY FUTURE 6 DEAN, TERRANCE BYNUM, YOU KNOW, BILL SHIELDS AND A LOT OF 7 OTHER FOLKS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PERJURED ME FOR A 8 VOTE, I DON'T CARE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SAY THANK 9 YOU GUYS FOR COMING OUT. 10 PART OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE BEEN TAKEN 11 AWAY FROM THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. LIKE THEY TOOK THE 12 NURSING PROGRAM AWAY FROM THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. YOU KNOW, 13 THERE WAS A VISION FOR A CULINARY -- DOWNSTAIRS IF YOU 14 LOOK AT IT, IT WAS BUILT TO HAVE AN ACTUAL CULINARY 15 INSTITUTE THERE. THEY JUST NEVER PUT THE FUNDS, AND THERE 16 WAS NEVER A POLITICAL WILL. 17 I MEAN TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, SOUTHEAST HAS 18 SUFFERED FROM A LACK OF A POLITICAL WILL. YOU KNOW, AND 19 THIS HAPPENS. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SET UP THE MISSION 20 CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK THREE YEARS TO SET IT UP AND TO 21 GET IT GOING. AND NOW THAT IT IS GOING, IT IS INGRAINED, 22 YOU KNOW, INTERWOVEN INTO THE COMMUNITY. 23 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS COMING 24 ONLINE. AND I AM SURE WE ARE GOING TO ADD CLASSES TO THE 25 CHINATOWN CAMPUS. I AM SURE. WE ARE NOT BUILDING A HUGE OCTOBER 27, 2011 119 1 BUILDING, YOU KNOW, TO NOT ADD CLASSES THERE. AND SO WHAT 2 IT REALLY TAKES FOR SOUTHEAST CAMPUS TO BE REVITALIZED IS, 3 YES, THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST BECAUSE WHY 4 WOULD THE PUC INVEST IN A BUILDING THAT THIS DISTRICT IS 5 NOT WILLING TO INVEST IN. 6 SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU 7 KNOW, THE DEFICITS THAT WE ARE IN. BUT, YOU KNOW, I 8 ALWAYS DO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN TIMES OF CRISIS, YOU 9 KNOW, BAYVIEW I MEAN WE ARE AN EMPLOYMENT RATE, AND WE ARE 10 BROKE. FOLKS IN BAYVIEW HAVE BEEN BROKE SINCE -- EVEN 11 DURING THE GOOD TIMES, FOLKS IN BAYVIEW IS BROKE. I LIVE 12 IN BAYVIEW. I KNOW IT'S BEEN BROKE. 13 SO HONESTLY, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE POLITICAL WILL 14 TO ACTUALLY SAY WE WILL CONTINUE TO INVEST IN A SOUTHEAST 15 CAMPUS. AND, YES, IT WILL BE REVITALIZED. AND I 16 UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CREATIVE WAYS TO DO IT. 17 YOU KNOW, VICE CHANCELLOR BELL TALKED ABOUT 18 MOVING EXISTING STUFF INTO THAT CAMPUS TO MAKE IT WORK. 19 WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE NEW CLASSES. I MEAN, WE TALKED 20 ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS HAVING PROGRAMS THAT ARE OVER -- 21 THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE. SO MOVE SOME OF 22 THAT -- MOVE SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS INTO THE SOUTHEAST 23 CAMPUS. WE'VE GOT SPACE THERE. 24 SO THERE ARE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO SOME OF THESE 25 PROBLEMS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE MONEY, BUT JUST REQUIRE A OCTOBER 27, 2011 120 1 LITTLE BIT OF POLITICAL WILL TO HELP FOLKS IN THE 2 COMMUNITY. 3 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM GOING TO END MY COMMENTS 4 THERE, AND THAT'S WHERE I AM. WE HAVE TO HAVE POLITICAL 5 WILL TO HELP EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, I 6 LIKE THE WAY THAT WE ARE GOING WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP 7 THAT IS THERE. THANK YOU. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 9 TRUSTEE FANG. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES. I WANTED TO OFFER 11 THAT WE HAD AN ASSOCIATED STUDENT EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING 12 THIS AFTERNOON. AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH A CONSENSUS AT OUR 13 MEETING THAT ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 9:00 IN THE MORNING, THERE 14 WILL BE A COMMUNITY MEETING TO FIGHT AGAINST RELEGATING 15 THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS TO THE 4TH FLOOR. AND THE ASSOCIATED 16 STUDENT EXECUTIVE BOARD WILL BE WORKING TO ORGANIZE THAT. 17 SO WORK WITH US. AND LET'S SHOW -- LET'S PUT UP A SHOW OF 18 FORCE TO SHOW THAT WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR CAMPUS. THAT'S 19 ALL. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS? 21 I HAVE A COMMENT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE 22 SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION IS PROBABLY ONE 23 OF THE MOST HIGHLY FUNCTIONAL DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY. I 24 MEAN IF MUNI RAN LIKE THE PUC RUNS, WE WOULD HAVE 25 IMPECCABLE SERVICE. THEY PROVIDE WATER TO 2.6 MILLION OCTOBER 27, 2011 121 1 CUSTOMERS IN THE BAY AREA, NOT JUST SAN FRANCISCO, BUT IN 2 THE WHOLE BAY AREA. 3 THEY PROVIDE ELECTRICITY TO CITY BUILDINGS, TO 4 THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND TO CITY COLLEGE. AND WE DON'T 5 HAVE BLACKOUTS. AT HOME I HAVE BLACKOUTS. I BUY MY 6 ELECTRICITY FROM PG&E. BUT WE DON'T HAVE BLACKOUTS HERE 7 BECAUSE THE PUC DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB AT PROVIDING 8 ELECTRICITY. 9 BUT WHAT THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING 10 IS PROVIDING EDUCATION. CITY COLLEGE HAS BEEN PROVIDING 11 EDUCATION FOR 75 YEARS AND KNOWS WHAT IT'S DOING. 12 FOR THE -- WHEN CITY COLLEGE SAYS THAT FOR A 13 FULLY FUNCTIONAL CAMPUS, WE NEED 127,000 SQUARE FEET AND 14 THE PUC SAYS, NO, YOU DON'T. YOU NEED 25,000 SQUARE FEET. 15 THEY ARE WRONG. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE 16 TALKING ABOUT. SO WE HAVE TO IMPRESS ON THEM. 17 FOR ME, IT IS NOT ADEQUATE TO SAY, WELL, WE WILL 18 TAKE WHAT THEY GIVE US NOW AND HOPE FOR THE BEST AND HOPE 19 THAT THEY GIVE US MORE LATER. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE 20 TOLD THAT THIS IS NOT ADEQUATE. THIS IS NOT ADEQUATE. WE 21 ARE NOT DOING THIS FOR THE PUC, YOU KNOW. WE ARE DOING 22 THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY OF THE SOUTHEAST. SO IF THAT -- IF 23 THAT 25,000 SQUARE FEET THEY ARE OFFERING US IS 24 INADEQUATE, WE HAVE TO TELL THEM THIS IS INADEQUATE. WE 25 HAVE TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 122 1 STUDENTS OF CITY COLLEGE. SO I THINK THEY NEED TO GET 2 THAT MESSAGE THAT THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. 3 AVC BELL: THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY, I AM SORRY. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE ARE READY TO VOTE. I JUST 9 CAN'T HELP BUT TO MAKE THIS COMMENT. 10 I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS YOU MADE, 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO, BUT THERE IS A REALITY THAT THIS BOARD 12 MUST REALIZE. 13 I CAN REMEMBER GOING TO BOARD MEETINGS, 14 COMMITTEE MEETINGS, TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS, TALKING ABOUT 15 NEW CLASS OFFERINGS, TALKING ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS. AND 16 WHEN IT WOULD COME TO THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, THERE WAS 17 NEVER A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND THE PIE THAT WE HAD WAS NOT 18 EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED. 19 SO IF THIS BOARD WANTS ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT 20 YOU ARE SUGGESTING AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED 21 ABOUT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT AND HONEST 22 ABOUT HOW WE EQUALLY TREAT ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES. AND THAT 23 MEANS THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS SHOULD BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH 24 THE MISSION CAMPUS, WITH THE -- ALL OF THE CAMPUSES. 25 I MEAN, WE ALWAYS LEAVE IT OUT FOR SOME REASON. OCTOBER 27, 2011 123 1 AND I CAN JUST THINK -- JUST NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE WERE 2 TALKING ABOUT NEW CLASSES AND COURSE OFFERINGS AND MONIES 3 THAT WE GOT FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES. 4 AND WE NEVER THOUGHT TO GIVE THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS ANY 5 MONEY OR ANY HELP. 6 AND SO IF WE REALLY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH, THEN 7 WE NEED TO SHOW IT AND DO BETTER WHEN WE START DIVIDING UP 8 THE MONEY AND WHEN WE START PLANNING FOR THE SUCCESS OF 9 CITY COLLEGE. WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 10 SO I AM REALLY GOING TO HOLD YOU TO YOUR WORDS 11 AND REMIND YOU OF WHAT WE COMMITTED TO TONIGHT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 13 AVC BELL: THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE -- OH, I'M 15 SORRY. 16 TRUSTEE WONG. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO A 18 POLITICAL WILL BECAUSE WE FOUGHT FOR THE MISSION CAMPUS 19 WHICH TOOK MANY, MANY YEARS. WE FOUGHT FOR THE CHINATOWN 20 CAMPUS WHICH IS GOING ON 17 YEARS NOW. AND THE REALITY IS 21 THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE POWER IN THE CITY AND THE POWERS 22 THAT BE WILL JUST DECIDE FOR YOU. AND THAT'S THE REALITY. 23 AND THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. 24 SO, YES, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO STEP UP TO THE 25 PLATE. AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. BUT THIS IS OCTOBER 27, 2011 124 1 AGAIN A LESSON IN TERMS OF WHO HAS THE POWER AND WHO DOES 2 NOT. IT ALWAYS HAPPENS THAT WAY. 3 AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, 4 KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO GET THE NEW MISSION CAMPUS. 5 THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE 6 POLITICAL POWER. 7 THE CHINATOWN COMMUNITY, MY GOD, WE WENT THERE 8 WITH THE POPULATION, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY POLITICAL 9 POWER. 17 YEARS IT'S GOING ON. THANK GOD, WE -- BUT THIS 10 SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING. IT'S ABOUT A LACK OF POLITICAL 11 POWER. 12 AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND IT 13 IS IMPORTANT THAT THIS BOARD ACTUALLY STEP UP TO THE PLATE 14 BECAUSE I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT I HAD QUALMS AND DOUBTS 15 ABOUT THIS BOARD EVEN SUPPORTING THE MISSION CAMPUS AT ONE 16 POINT IN TIME, THE CHINATOWN CAMPUS AT ONE POINT IN TIME, 17 YOU WERE ALL THERE. 18 SO, TRUSTEE GRIER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR 19 REMINDING US THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HOLD THIS BOARD TO THE 20 IDEA OF SUPPORTING THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS, NOT ONLY IN WORD, 21 BUT INDEED IN OUR VOTES. AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO STEP 22 UP BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT THE HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS, AND IT'S 23 ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT. AND SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: LISTEN GUYS, THIS IS NOT THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 125 1 FIRST TIME WE'VE SAT UP HERE AND TRIED TO CLOSE SOUTHEAST. 2 AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST TIME. BUT IT'S NOT 3 CLOSING ON THIS BOARD. SQUASH. SO IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 4 IT IS. 5 I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THESE MEETINGS AND THE 6 PEOPLE HAVE STOOD HERE TRYING TO CLOSE THE SOUTHEAST 7 CAMPUS. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. GO, 8 GO FOR IT GUYS. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S NOT. LET'S JUST VOTE. 11 DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO? GO AHEAD, IF YOU HAVE TO. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO AGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE 13 PERSON ON THIS BOARD. AND I HOPE THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S 14 BUDGET CYCLE WE ARE GOING TO PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH 15 IS. OKAY? 16 BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF US HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER 17 THAN A FEW OF US. AND I THINK WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE 18 WE CAN GET THE POLITICAL GOAL TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THANK 19 YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 ALL RIGHT. TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 24 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 126 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 8 OKAY, S5 IS APPROVED. 9 OKAY, WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA IN FRONT OF US WITH 10 SEVERAL IMPORTANT ITEMS. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO NOW 11 WITH THE BOARD'S AGREEMENT IS TO HAVE A TEN MINUTE RECESS. 12 SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE WILL HAVE A RECESS. 13 (RECESS TAKEN.) 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. 15 GETTING BACK TO THE AGENDA. WE ARE GOING TO DO ITEM IV, 16 REPORT FROM CONSTITUENT GROUPS. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE 17 ASSOCIATED STUDENTS AND DO THOSE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE SOME 18 TIMING ISSUES. 19 JEFFREY. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT 21 RIZZO. 22 SINCE TONIGHT WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE 23 DOWNTOWN CAMPUS MANDI LAM, AS WELL AS VICE PRESIDENT OF 24 EVANS CAMPUS INGRID, AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM MISSION 25 CAMPUS KATIE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 127 1 MS. LAM: GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN, AND MEMBERS OF CCSF COMMUNITY. 3 THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT ON 4 BEHALF OF THE STUDENTS OF THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. MY NAME IS 5 MANDI LAM, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATED 6 STUDENT COUNCIL OF DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. 7 I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS 8 HAS BEEN VIBRANT WITH EXCITEMENT ACTIVITY THIS SEMESTER. 9 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE JUST A FEW OF OUR 10 HIGHLIGHTS WITH YOU. ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, DEAN DORE AND 11 ASSOCIATED STUDENT COUNCIL CO-HOSTED OUR FIRST EVER TOWN 12 HALL MEETING. THE TOWN HALL MEETING, WHICH WAS PACKED 13 WITH STUDENTS, PROVIDED AN OPEN FORUM FOR STUDENTS TO ASK 14 QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE INPUT. 15 STUDENTS WERE EXCITED TO MEET WITH OUR NEW DEAN 16 WHO HAS BROUGHT A VERY POSITIVE ENERGY TO OUR CAMPUS THIS 17 YEAR. AND THE STUDENTS REALLY FELT THAT THEY WERE BEING 18 HEARD AND VALUED BY OUR DEAN. 19 WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY 20 FANG FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF HIS BUSY SCHEDULE TO BE ON THE 21 PANEL FOR THE TOWN HALL MEETING AND FOR HELPING TO MAKE IT 22 A SUCCESS. 23 ON OCTOBER 5TH, WE HOSTED AN ENTERTAINING 24 PRESENTATION BY PROFESSOR JOHN CALLOWAY ON HOW AFRO-LATIN 25 CULTURE FORCES CREATE JAZZ MUSIC. THE STUDENTS AND OCTOBER 27, 2011 128 1 FACULTY WERE BOTH ENTERTAINED WITH LIVELY MUSIC AND 2 LEARNED A LOT ABOUT LATIN CULTURE. 3 TOMORROW WE WILL BE HOSTING OUR ANNUAL HALLOWEEN 4 PARTY AT THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. AND YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO 5 ENJOY OUR FESTIVE MUSIC AND DELIGHTFUL FOOD. 6 WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK DEAN DORE FOR HIS 7 SUPPORT, THE FACULTY, AND THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE 8 VOLUNTEERED TO HELP WITH THE PARTY. 9 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD FOR BEING PART 10 OF OUR SECOND ANNUAL DOWNTOWN CAMPUS CALENDAR WHICH WILL 11 BE ON SALE IN NOVEMBER. 12 FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY COUNCIL 13 FOR THEIR TEAMWORK AND DEDICATION. OUR SUCCESS IS THE 14 RESULT OF UNITY AND TEAMWORK AT THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. 15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD NIGHT. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WE HAVE INGRID. 18 MS. WYNN: HI, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS INGRID 19 WYNN, AND I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE EVANS CAMPUS. 20 I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD TONIGHT 21 SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE ACTUALLY OCCURRING 22 WITH THE EVANS CAMPUS. 23 ONE OF OUR ACTIVITIES IS WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE 24 OUR FIRST JOB FAIR NOVEMBER 9TH. WE ARE WORKING WITH 25 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH OCTOBER 27, 2011 129 1 VARIOUS OTHER CAMPUSES. ACTUALLY, WE ARE WORKING WITH ALL 2 OUR SISTER CAMPUSES TO MAKE THIS EVENT A SUCCESS. 3 IT'S KIND OF AWKWARD; HOW YOU DO HAVE A 4 VOCATIONAL SCHOOL AND NEVER HAD A JOB FAIR THERE, BUT THIS 5 IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST ANNUAL ONE THAT WE -- HOPEFULLY 6 MORE THAN JUST THE ANNUAL, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE 7 FIRST ONE THAT WE ACTUALLY HOLD. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE 8 NOVEMBER 9TH FROM 5:00 IN THE EVENING TO 7:30. 9 WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING IT DOWNSTAIRS IN OUR 10 AUTO DEPARTMENT. SO IF YOU GUYS MAY HAVE SOME VENDORS IN 11 MIND, PLEASE DO GET IN CONTACT WITH ME OR BILL SHIELDS WHO 12 IS ALSO WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THIS IS A SUCCESS. 13 DECEMBER 2ND, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ALICE 14 GRIFFIN INVESTMENT GROUP WHO IS ACTUALLY HAVING A CAREER 15 TECH DAY. SO HERE IS THE FLIERS THAT YOU GUYS WILL SOON 16 BE GETTING. 17 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS WRITTEN IN HERE FROM 18 OUR CURRENT MAYOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN 19 FRANCISCO, IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT HE WELCOME 20 CAREER TECH DAY TO SAN FRANCISCO BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT AS 21 THE MAYOR OF SAN FRANCISCO MAKING SURE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD 22 THRIVES. 23 AND ONE OF THE FOREMOST PRIORITIES, HE'S 24 COMMITTED TO MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY IN 25 THE BAYVIEW-HUNTERS POINT. AND THAT GOES TO SAY THAT ONE OCTOBER 27, 2011 130 1 OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT HEAVILY WAS THE S5 2 AND WORKING WITH THE SOUTHEAST COMMUNITY. IT IS A GREAT 3 HONOR TO ACTUALLY WORK TO BRING FORTH AN OPPORTUNITY TO 4 EVERYBODY AND A COMMUNITY LIKE WE HAVE. 5 SO THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING 6 ON. WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL -- WELL, ACTUALLY, OUR SEMESTER 7 END-OF-THE-YEAR CELEBRATION WHERE WE INVITE EVERYBODY TO 8 CELEBRATE AND BREAK BREAD WITH US. THE A.S.E. COUNCIL 9 PROVIDES A FREE BARBEQUE TO ALL THE STUDENTS FOR FREE. 10 AND IT'S JUST SAYING, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING AND BEING 11 THERE. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE 12 RECOGNIZE THE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH US THAT WILL BE 13 GOING OFF AND WELCOMING NEW STUDENTS COMING TO THE CAMPUS. 14 WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT 15 WITH THIS NEW ROTATION THAT YOU HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO 16 STUDENT REPRESENTATION OF THE VARIOUS CAMPUS, I WANT TO 17 SAY THAT I AM APPALLED WITH JUST OCEAN CAMPUS ON EVERY 18 MEETING. IT'S UNFAIR. 19 YOU HAVE CURRENTLY NINE CAMPUSES. SO IF YOU 20 HAVE NINE CAMPUSES AND YOU INCLUDE ONE TO COME EVERYONE, 21 THE ROTATION WILL NEVER ACTUALLY GET TO THE FULL CAMPUSES 22 IN ONE SEMESTER. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR 23 ATTENTION. 24 I ALSO WANT TO BRING THE FACT THE WAY IT'S BEEN 25 BROKEN DOWN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN -- I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE OCTOBER 27, 2011 131 1 HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU 2 ARE PRESENT OR NOT. WHEN YOU PUT PEOPLE'S NAMES 3 REGARDLESS OF CAMPUSES, THEN IT BREAKS EVERYTHING UP. WE 4 ARE NOT EQUAL NO MORE. OCEAN IS NOT BETTER THAN ANY OF 5 THE OTHER CAMPUSES THAT WE HAVE. AND WE HAVE 11 CAMPUSES. 6 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR ON HOW I FEEL 7 BECAUSE I SAID THAT TWO YEARS AGO. TWO YEARS AGO WHEN IT 8 WAS JUST ONE PERSON THAT WOULD SPEAK FOR EVERY CAMPUS. 9 THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT BECAME IMPORTANT THAT WE 10 RECOGNIZE THERE'S LEADERS IN ALL CAMPUSES. SO WHEN WE 11 TALK ABOUT FAIR, WE TALK ABOUT EQUALITY, WE TALK ABOUT 12 JUSTICE AND DOING THE RIGHT THING, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF 13 THE THINGS WE NEED TO ADD. THANK YOU. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: MAY I ASK THE LEADER A QUESTION. 17 ACTUALLY, NOT A QUESTION. I WANTED TO JUST COMMENT ABOUT 18 THE JOB FAIR. AND YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS THE FIRST JOB 19 FAIR AT THE EVANS CAMPUS. I HOPE YOU WILL CONTACT CLARA 20 STARR, OUR HR DIRECTOR. 21 MS. WYNN: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: BECAUSE SHE PLANS A LOT OF JOB 23 FAIRS, AND SHE ATTENDS A LOT OF JOB FAIRS. AND SHE WOULD 24 PROBABLY HAVE SOME WONDERFUL IDEAS FOR YOU. 25 MS. WYNN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 132 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHAT'S THE DATE AND 3 TIME AGAIN? 4 MS. WYNN: IT'S GOING TO BE NOVEMBER 9TH FROM 5 5:00 P.M. TO 7:30 P.M., 1400 EVANS. 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 7 MS. WYNN: THANK YOU. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WE HAVE KATIE FROM 10 MISSION CAMPUS. 11 MS. GELARDI: HI, DR. GRIFFIN AND BOARD OF 12 TRUSTEES. 13 WELL, THE STUDENTS CONTINUE TO BE VERY 14 SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO LOCAL BUSINESSES 15 FOR SUPPORT FOR THEIR BOOK LOAN PROGRAM. 16 RESULTS OF STUDENTS EFFORTS, OKAY, JOHN 17 TRASVINA, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF HUD, OKAY, WILL BE GIVING 18 AN INSPIRATIONAL MESSAGE ON HIS ROAD FROM THE MISSION 19 DISTRICT TO THE WHITE HOUSE. THIS WILL BE HELD ON 20 WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND AT 10:00 A.M. ROOM 109. AND OF 21 COURSE, YOU ARE ALL INVITED. 22 ON ANOTHER NOTE, THE MISSION CAMPUS, THE 23 STUDENTS, THE COMMUNITY ARE IN SOLIDARITY IN REJECTING THE 24 DRAFT REPORT OF THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE TASK 25 FORCE. TO SAY THAT -- TO CALL IT STUDENT SUCCESS AS PART OCTOBER 27, 2011 133 1 OF THE TITLE, QUITE HONESTLY, IS AN INSULT TO OUR CITY 2 COLLEGE EDUCATION COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT SAGINOR. 5 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 6 PRESIDENT. 7 SOME OF THE RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAVE INCLUDED 8 THAT WE NOW HAVE AN OFFICIAL LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, 9 TRANSGENDER MAJOR. THE FIRST COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN THE 10 COUNTRY TO HAVE THIS. 11 ARDEL THOMAS, THE CHAIR OF THAT DEPARTMENT, AND 12 MANY OTHER PEOPLE WORKED VERY HARD TO ACHIEVE THIS. AND 13 OF COURSE, THERE'S THIS WHOLE HISTORY GOING BACK A LONG 14 WAY TO HAVE GOTTEN US HERE, WHICH I WILL NOT TAKE YOUR 15 TIME WITH TONIGHT. 16 OUR DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY PROGRAM HAS BEEN 17 RECOGNIZED AS BEST IN THE COUNTRY. LAST YEAR, WE WERE 18 VERY PROUD TO BE IN THE NO. 2 SPOT BEHIND JOHN HOPKINS 19 UNIVERSITY. THIS YEAR WE BEAT OUT JOHN HOPKINS UNIVERSITY 20 AND WE ARE NO. 1. 21 KYLE THORNTON, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE RADIOLOGY 22 DEPARTMENT AND THOSE PROGRAMS, RESPONDED TO THE 23 CONGRATULATIONS THAT WERE SENT TO HIM BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, 24 WE DIDN'T DO THIS IN A VACUUM. THE STUDENTS OF OUR 25 PROGRAMS ARE SUPPORTED IN THEIR SUCCESS BY THE ENTIRE OCTOBER 27, 2011 134 1 COLLEGE. SO WE REALLY ALL DESERVE RECOGNITION FOR THAT 2 ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3 CUE, FRED. 4 THE FACULTY, OF COURSE, ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE 5 FACT THAT THE COLLEGE HAS GOTTEN OFF TRACK FROM OUR 6 BUDGET. WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON GETTING BACK ON TRACK. 7 PART OF THAT EFFORT HAS BEEN WORK ON FACULTY ASSIGNMENTS. 8 AS THIS BOARD DIRECTED IN AUGUST, WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH 9 DOING ZERO-BASED BUDGETING FOR THE NON-CONTRACTUAL 10 ASSIGNMENTS. THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD CALL. I WANT TO 11 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION. 12 WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON DEVELOPING A CRITERIA IN 13 AN OPEN PROCESS. SO THE DOCUMENT I PASSED OUT TO YOU, AND 14 IS ALSO ON THE TABLE, IS A DRAFT, RIGHT, NOTICE DRAFT. 15 IT'S NOT DONE YET. WE'VE PUT THE DRAFTS UP ONLINE. WE'VE 16 BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK, INCLUDING NOW WE ARE SHARING IT 17 HERE. IT'S A DRAFT NOT FINISHED. IT WILL HAVE FACULTY 18 AND, OF COURSE, ADMINISTRATION IN YOUR INPUT. 19 THE GROUP THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH IS 20 DEDICATED TO BRING MORE COHERENCE AND MORE UNDERSTANDING 21 ABOUT HOW INFORMATION ABOUT ASSIGNMENTS IS RECORDED. WE 22 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE FUTURE THIS STUFF IS DONE 23 IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE'LL NEVER -- WE WON'T -- IT WILL BE 24 EASY. NEXT TIME AROUND YOU WILL SAY, HOW MUCH IS BEING 25 SPENT IN THIS AREA? AND IT WILL BE EASY TO PULL IT UP. OCTOBER 27, 2011 135 1 RATHER THIS TIME IT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT. 2 OUR GROUP IS LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM, RIGHT. 3 THERE ARE, OF COURSE, THE DECISIONS ON THE ACTUAL 4 ASSIGNMENTS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE ACADEMIC SENATE IS 5 INVOLVED IN. ADMINISTRATION AND DEPARTMENT CHAIRS ARE 6 WORKING TOGETHER ON REVIEWING ALL THE NON-CONTRACTUAL 7 ASSIGNMENTS FOR NEXT SEMESTER. 8 SO REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES ON THIS 9 DRAFT IS MEANT TO BE VERY EXPLANATORY. THE BOX ON THE 10 FRONT PAGE, THE BOX ON THE SECOND PAGE. AND AGAIN, AS I 11 SAID, THIS IS A DRAFT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ALREADY GOING 12 TO BE CHANGES TO IT. 13 BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT ONE OF THE 14 PROBLEMS IN THE PROCESS HAS BEEN SORT OF ALL OVER THE 15 COLLEGE PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S MEANT BY 16 NON-INSTRUCTIONAL. THE STATE IN THEIR THE 50 PERCENT LAW, 17 THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF INCLUDED IN 18 NON-INSTRUCTIONALS. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME OH, 19 YEAH, NON-INSTRUCTIONAL THOSE THINGS. IT'S NOT WHAT I DO. 20 AND I'M, LIKE, WELL, ACTUALLY, YEAH, IT IS WHAT YOU DO 21 TOO. SO I HOPE THE COLLEGE WILL GET BETTER INFORMATION 22 ABOUT THIS, AND IT WILL REALLY HELP US FOR THE FUTURE. 23 AND FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD SOME TIME TO 24 AFT PRESIDENT, ALISA MESSER. 25 MS. MESSER: GOOD EVENING. OCTOBER 27, 2011 136 1 I ALSO WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS ABOUT THE 2 SHIFTING BUDGET TERRAIN AND THE SORT OF NEWER CRISIS THAT 3 WE ARE IN. 4 SO WE WANT TO THANK THE DISTRICT FOR CONSIDERING 5 JOBS AND PRESERVING JOBS A REAL PRIORITY. THIS IS OUR 6 BIGGEST PRIORITY AT THE MOMENT. SO I AM GLAD WE ARE IN A 7 DISTRICT THAT IS NOT INTERESTED IN SLASHING PROGRAMS. 8 IT'S INTERESTED IN PROTECTING JOBS. AND INTERESTED IN 9 PROTECTING STUDENTS ABILITY TO TAKE CLASSES. 10 WE ARE EXPECTING BASE ASSIGNMENTS TO BE 11 PROTECTED UNDER THIS SITUATION. AND WE EXPECT THE 12 DISTRICT TO LIVE UP TO ITS COMMITMENT TO PROTECT THOSE 13 BASE ASSIGNMENTS. 14 I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE THINK IT IS HIGHLY 15 UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING. THAT THIS $5 MILLION 16 THAT'S HAPPENED RECENTLY IS CAUSING US TO HAVE TO SORT OF 17 OVERCORRECT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T FOLLOWING OUR BUDGET PLAN. 18 SO WE HOPE THAT WE WILL GET BACK ON TRACK. AND OUR -- BUT 19 WE REALLY -- WE ARE DISTRESSED BY THE DISTRICT'S INABILITY 20 TO FOLLOW ITS OWN BUDGET PLAN AT THIS POINT. AND 21 ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THAT'S LIKELY TO DISPROPORTIONATELY 22 IMPACT FACULTY AND STUDENTS. 23 I DO WANT TO MENTION TWO STATEWIDE ITEMS AND ONE 24 SORT OF NATIONAL AND GLOBAL ITEM. SO THE FIRST IS THE 25 STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE. I THINK EVERYONE ON THIS OCTOBER 27, 2011 137 1 BOARD KNOWS, AND I THINK ALL OF OUR FACULTY KNOW, AND 2 CERTAINLY OUR STUDENTS KNOW THAT STUDENT SUCCESS IS A 3 REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALWAYS 4 WORKING ON. AND I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE'VE MADE SOME 5 PRETTY AMAZING STRIDES IN ORDER TO ADDRESS. 6 AND I WAS AT THE CHANCELLOR'S TASK FORCE FOR 7 EQUITY LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE. I KNOW IT'S IN YOUR 8 REPORT. AND SEEING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE 9 LOCALLY TO MAKE CHANGES AT THE COLLEGE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS 10 STUDENT SUCCESS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE -- THERE ARE SOME 11 STARTLING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE. AND THEY 12 HAVEN'T BEEN EASY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN -- THEY'VE REALLY 13 MOVED US FORWARD. 14 ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THAT THE STUDENTS -- 15 THE TASK FORCE FOR STUDENT SUCCESS THAT'S HAPPENING 16 STATEWIDE ISN'T ONE OF THOSE THINGS. AND I THINK IT'S 17 VERY TEMPTING TO FOLLOW THIS IDEA OF STUDENT SUCCESS 18 BECAUSE, OF COURSE, WE ALL SUPPORT STUDENT SUCCESS. AND 19 ASSUME THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'VE 20 ALREADY BEEN TALKING VERY MUCH ABOUT AND WILL CONTINUE TO 21 HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF CHANGES ARE 22 BEING MADE, AND IN WHOSE NAME, AND WHAT KIND OF IMPACT 23 THEY'LL HAVE ON OUR STUDENTS AND THE WORK THAT WE DO AT 24 CITY COLLEGE. 25 I ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION AS ANOTHER OCTOBER 27, 2011 138 1 STATEWIDE ITEM. JUST TODAY, GOVERNOR BROWN RELEASED A 2 PROPOSED PENSION REFORM PLAN. AND SO WE ARE STILL IN THE 3 PROCESS OF LOOKING AT IT AND GETTING TO KNOW WHAT THIS 4 PROPOSAL MEANS. BUT I DID WANT TO SAY MANY OF THE 5 ELEMENTS THERE ARE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO CALPERS WHICH, 6 OF COURSE, WE HAVE MANY FOLKS IN THE DISTRICT WHO ARE PART 7 OF CALPERS. SOME OF THEM ALSO IMPACT CALSTRS. 8 SO FOR INSTANCE, ON JUST IN THINKING ABOUT STRS, 9 IT PROPOSES A 50/50 MATCH. AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS 10 CURRENTLY ABOUT 18 PERCENT OVERALL FROM EVERY -- YOU KNOW, 11 TO COVER FACULTY PENSION COST. THAT 18 PERCENT, RIGHT NOW 12 ABOUT 45 PERCENT OF IT IS PAID BY EMPLOYEES. THAT'S 13 8 PERCENT. 14 AND I BELIEVE MAY BE VICE CHANCELLOR GOLDSTEIN 15 CAN TELL ME -- THE DISTRICT MATCHES TO ABOUT 8.25 PERCENT, 16 RIGHT? 17 SO TO GET UP TO 18 PERCENT, THE STATE IS PAYING 18 A LITTLE OVER 1 PERCENT. AND SO IT'S -- THE STATE IS 19 LOOKING TO PASS THOSE COSTS ONTO EMPLOYEES AND DISTRICTS 20 AT THIS POINT. 21 AGAIN, IT IS JUST A PROPOSAL, BUT I THOUGHT IT 22 WAS USEFUL TO SORT OF GET A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT MEANS AT 23 THE MOMENT. 24 IT PROPOSES CHANGES IN RETIREMENT AGE FINAL 25 COMPENSATION CALCULATIONS. IT PROPOSES A HYBRID PLAN THAT OCTOBER 27, 2011 139 1 MOVES AWAY FROM A DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN TOWARDS A DEFINED 2 CONTRIBUTION PLAN, FURTHER PRIVATIZING AND PUTTING MONEY 3 AT RISK AS WE, YOU KNOW, PUT IT INTO THE STOCK MARKET AND 4 SO ON. SO WE HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS, BUT I JUST WANTED 5 TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU THAT JUST CAME OUT TODAY. 6 ALL OF THAT SAID, RIGHT, I THINK AS WE LOOK AT 7 THESE, YOU KNOW, THE HORRIBLE BUDGET SITUATION THAT WE 8 CONTINUE TO BE IN, THE DEFUNDING OF PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT 9 WE ARE SUFFERING FROM, BLAMING PUBLIC EMPLOYEES FOR THE 10 FACT THAT WE HAVE WALL STREET AND OTHERS WHO ARE 11 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRASH IN THE ECONOMY. 12 THE OCCUPY MOVEMENT HAS REALLY INVIGORATED MANY 13 OF US. AND I KNOW WE'VE MANY FACULTY, WE'VE HAD MANY 14 STUDENTS AND STAFF WHO ARE DOWN -- HAVE BEEN DOWN AT 15 OCCUPY SF. LABOR HAS ALSO REALLY BEEN SUPPORTING. AND WE 16 HAD A BIG NIGHT LAST NIGHT WHERE IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WERE 17 GOING TO BE SOME PROBLEMS, BUT IN FACT THE POLICE NEVER 18 CAME AND NEVER RAIDED BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE 19 FROM THE COMMUNITY, SO MANY LABOR FOLKS, SO MANY PEOPLE 20 OUT THERE FROM OCCUPY SF WHO MADE SURE THAT THAT DIDN'T 21 HAPPEN. 22 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT'S A PROUD MOMENT FOR 23 SAN FRANCISCO. WE ALSO HAD SUPERVISORS AND VARIOUS OTHERS 24 THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 25 SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN OCTOBER 27, 2011 140 1 PARTICIPATING IN THAT AND PARTICIPATING IN FINALLY 2 SHIFTING THE CONVERSATION SO THAT WE CAN REALLY TALK ABOUT 3 WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE ECONOMY. AND THE FACT THAT IT'S 4 NOT OUR FAULT, RIGHT. AND THAT WE NEED TO SHIFT -- 5 CONTINUE TO SHIFT THAT CONVERSATION. SO WE ARE 6 ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE IN SUPPORTING OCCUPY. 7 THANKS. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 JAMES ROGERS FOR THE CLASSIFIED SENATE. 10 PRESIDENT ROGERS. 11 MR. ROGERS: GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE TRUSTEES, 12 DR. GRIFFIN. 13 THE SENATE MET YESTERDAY AND PROVIDED MORE 14 FEEDBACK FOR THE ACCREDITATION SELF-STUDY. WE WANT TO 15 RESTATE OUR SOLIDARITY WITH THE REST OF THE COLLEGE IN 16 REJECTING THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S TASK FORCE 17 RECOMMENDATIONS ON STUDENT SUCCESS. 18 THERE WAS ALSO MUCH DISCUSSION ON A RECENT ROUND 19 OF E-MAILS AROUND LIMITING SMOKING. AND CLASSIFIED ARE 20 OPEN TO THE IDEAS, BUT DON'T WANT TO OSTRACIZE SMOKERS. 21 THE CLASSIFIED, AS WE HAVE FOR YEARS, CONTINUED 22 TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF FACING THE BUDGET ISSUES. WE 23 HAVE LOST MANY PEOPLE TO ATTRITION AND SAVED THE COLLEGE 24 LARGE SUMS OF MONEY BY TAKING ON THE WORK OF OUR BROTHERS 25 AND SISTERS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN REPLACED. OCTOBER 27, 2011 141 1 THE CURRENT BUDGET SHORTFALLS WERE NOT CAUSED BY 2 HIRING CLASSIFIED. SOME CURRENT COMMENTARY BY ANOTHER 3 GROUP SEEMS TO BE TRYING TO SHIFT THE BUDGETS PROBLEMS 4 ONTO OUR BACKS. THE TRUTH IS WE'VE SAVED MILLIONS ONGOING 5 IN THE BUDGET DUE TO ATTRITION. AND THIS DOESN'T EVEN 6 COUNT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS SAVED YEARLY IN ONGOING 7 AND EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS AND OVERTIME WHERE 8 PAY FREEZES THAT WE SHARED AND ENDURED WITH OTHER GROUPS. 9 WE ARE DOING OUR SHARE AND EXPECT OTHER GROUPS 10 IN THE COLLEGE TO JOIN US IN THIS BATTLE AND DO THE SAME. 11 WE HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO SAVE THE COLLEGE MILLIONS. 12 WE HAVE BEEN IN THE VANGUARD LEADING THE WAY. THE PROCESS 13 IS NOT EASY. WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CONTINUE WORKING 14 TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE THE NEEDED SAVINGS. 15 ON ANOTHER NOTE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY 16 YEARS, OUR CLASSIFIED SENATE HAS A WEB PAGE. THANKS TO 17 THE CLASSIFIED CHAIR OF THE WEB CREDIT WORKGROUP AARON 18 HOLMBERG. HIS PERSISTENCE AND FOLLOW THROUGH WERE 19 INVALUABLE AS HAS BEEN HIS WORK PREPARING THE ENTIRE 20 COLLEGE WEBSITE IN ADVANCE OF THE ACCREDITATION. 21 THANK YOU, AARON. 22 IT IS GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. 23 AND I WOULD LIKE TO CEDE MY FEW REMAINING MOMENTS TO SEIU 24 REP ANGELA THOMAS. THANK YOU. 25 MS. THOMAS: I WILL BE QUICK ALSO BECAUSE IT IS OCTOBER 27, 2011 142 1 LATE. 2 BUT THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO 3 PIGGYBACK ON THE BACK OF MY BROTHER JAMES IS -- AND I AM 4 GOING TO USE A PHRASE OF A FRIEND OF MINE THAT I HEARD 5 THIS WEEK. IT'S CALLED THE WHISPERING CAMPAIGN. AND AS 6 YOU CAN TELL BY JAMES' COMMENTS, SOME OF THE RUMOR MILL 7 AND THE WHISPER CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN HURTFUL. 8 AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS I'D APPRECIATE 9 IT IF THIS COLLEGE DOES NOT EMBARK IN THAT AS WE TRY TO 10 FIX AND HANDLE OUR CURRENT BUDGET PROBLEM. SITTING UP 11 HERE JUST EVERYBODY, WELL, YOU GOT THIS AND YOU GOT THAT 12 AND YOU DIDN'T GET ENOUGH THAT AND YOU DIDN'T DO THAT AND 13 WELL, IF SHE HADN'T DONE THIS, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. 14 WE DON'T NEED THAT. AND THAT'S MY OPINION. 15 YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR LITTLE WATER COOLER 16 TALK, BUT DON'T LET IT GET OFF IN THE MAIN LINE WHERE IT 17 GETS TO BE HURTFUL AND DESTRUCTIVE WHERE WE ARE ALL 18 LOOKING OVER OUR SHOULDER AND WE ARE FROWNING AND WE ARE 19 GRIMACING AT PEOPLE THAT WE USED TO SMILE AT. AND WE ARE 20 SITTING UP HERE BEING A SUSPECT THINKING SOMEBODY IS 21 STALKING US, TRYING TO KILL US WHEN WE GET OUTSIDE OF OUR 22 CAR. THAT IS NOT GOOD. AND I DO NOT LIKE IT. 23 AND I AM NOT ANY OF YOU GUYS' MOTHER, BUT I AM 24 TALKING TO YOU LIKE I'M YOUR MAMA RIGHT NOW. YOU'VE GOT 25 TO STOP THAT. THAT -- WE DON'T NEED THAT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 143 1 AND AS YOU ASK SEE, THAT'S WHAT DOMINATED WHAT 2 HE HAD TO SAY. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GETTING TONS 3 OF CALLS IN THE BUNGALOW. YEAH, PEOPLE ARE CALLING US. 4 WITH WHAT YOU GOT, WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE, AND ALL OF THIS 5 KIND OF STUFF, AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE REMEDY, AND YOU 6 ARE GOING -- YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. AND IT'S LIKE -- 7 NO, NO. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT. 8 STOP THE WHISPERING CAMPAIGN. WE ARE ALL IN 9 THIS TOGETHER. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 TRUSTEES, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF IMPORTANT ITEMS. 12 I WILL JUST READ SOME OFF TO YOU. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: (INAUDIBLE.) 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, OKAY. 17 SO WE HAVE THE -- THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT 18 IS ACTUALLY PRETTY IMPORTANT THIS MONTH BECAUSE OF THE 19 SHORTFALL THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S ALSO -- ANOTHER IMPORTANT 20 ONE IS THE S2 ON THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE THAT WE 21 SHOULD SPEND SOME TIME ON. WE HAVE THE P RESOLUTIONS THAT 22 ARE NEEDED FOR ACCREDITATION. AND I ALSO WANTED TO SPEND 23 SOME TIME ON S4. 24 SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THOSE. AND I KNOW 25 TRUSTEE BERG SAID SHE NEEDED TO LEAVE. OF THOSE, ARE OCTOBER 27, 2011 144 1 THERE ANY -- SHOULD WE DO ALL OF THOSE OR -- 2 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- BEFORE YOU LEAVE -- 4 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WHY DON'T WE DO THE 6 MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT THEN, IS THAT OKAY? 7 TRUSTEE WONG: LET'S DO THE RESOLUTIONS. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S ALL RIGHT. DO THE 9 FINANCIAL REPORT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK IT'S PROBABLY GOOD 11 THAT YOU ARE HERE FOR THIS IF YOU HAVE THE TIME. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I AM ASKING. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SHE'S IN PAIN. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF YOU WANT TO DO THE P 16 RESOLUTIONS, WE CAN DO THAT FIRST. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT S AND P'S. IF YOU NEED TO 18 MAKE THE BUDGET, GET IT DOWN. COME ON. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, IT'S GOING HAVE TO BE QUICK 20 THEN. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE 22 QUICKLY. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: THEN -- 24 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, THEN WE NEED TO DO THE 25 RESOLUTIONS THEN. OCTOBER 27, 2011 145 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WANT TO DO THE P 2 RESOLUTIONS. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, HOW LONG IS IT? 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WELL, THERE MAY BE A LOT OF 6 QUESTIONS. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE A PRETTY SERIOUS 8 PROBLEM. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: JUST DO THE RESOLUTIONS SO SHE 10 COULD LEAVE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, LET'S DO THE P 12 RESOLUTIONS THEN, P1-P6. 13 COUNSELOR, COULD YOU READ THE TITLE OF P1, 14 PLEASE. 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, P1 IS TO 16 AMEND THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICY MANUAL BY ADDING BOARD 17 POLICY BP 2435, EVALUATION OF THE CHANCELLOR. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THESE ARE ALL SECOND READINGS. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION FOR P1? 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE P1. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 24 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 25 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OCTOBER 27, 2011 146 1 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 2 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 5 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 9 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 13 P1 CARRIES. 14 P2, COUNSELOR. 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, P2 IS TO 16 AMEND THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT POLICY 17 MANUAL BY ADDING BOARD POLICY BP 3050, INSTITUTIONAL CODE 18 OF ETHICS. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR 20 P2? 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE P2. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 25 IS THERE DISCUSSION? OCTOBER 27, 2011 147 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I HAD A QUESTION. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IS THE ACADEMIC SENATE AND AFT 4 NOT OPPOSED TO P2? 5 MS. SAGINOR: THE ACADEMIC SENATE IS NOT OPPOSED 6 TO P2. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO -- YOU -- THE ACADEMIC 8 SENATE AND AFT 2121 HAD EARLIER POSED AN INSTITUTIONAL 9 CODE OF ETHICS CITING THE REASON THAT THERE WAS NO PENALTY 10 FOR VIOLATING ANY CODE OF ETHICS. 11 IS THAT STILL TRUE? 12 MS. SAGINOR: I REVIEWED MY NOTES FROM THAT TIME 13 AND TOOK A LOOK AT THIS ONE. AND THIS ONE SAYS, IT TALKS 14 ABOUT AS STATED IN THE RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE EMPLOYEE 15 HANDBOOKS. AND IN THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOKS, IT COVERS THAT 16 THAT. SO THE OTHER ONE DIDN'T REFER TO THE EMPLOYEE 17 HANDBOOKS. THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THE OTHER REASON WAS THAT 19 THERE WAS NO DEFINITION OF WHAT ETHICS MEANT. 20 ARE YOU STILL -- IS THE ACADEMIC SENATE STILL 21 OPPOSED ON THAT GROUNDS? 22 MS. SAGINOR: THIS ONE HAS A PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS 23 DEFINITION OF ETHICS IN IT. IT GIVES A LOT MORE CONTEXT 24 TO THE MEANINGS OF THE WORDS THAT ARE USED. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THERE WAS ANOTHER REASON THAT OCTOBER 27, 2011 148 1 YOU OPPOSED IT. SINCE YOU HAVE YOUR NOTES UP THERE, DO 2 YOU REMEMBER WHY? 3 MS. SAGINOR: I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T BRING MY 4 NOTES WITH ME. BUT AS I SAID, I DID GO OVER IT. I COULD 5 CAN E-MAIL YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL LOOK IT UP. BUT THERE IS 7 NO OPPOSITION FROM THE ACADEMIC SENATE ON P2, RIGHT? 8 AND WHAT ABOUT AFT 2121 BECAUSE THEY OPPOSED IT 9 TOO. 10 THERE'S NO MORE OPPOSITION ANYMORE ON P2. OKAY, 11 THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 13 FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 14 OKAY, TRUSTEE FANG. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? OCTOBER 27, 2011 149 1 P2 CARRIES. 2 P3, COUNSELOR. 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, P3 IS TO 4 AMEND THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT POLICY 5 MANUAL BY AMENDING EXISTING BOARD POLICY BP 2745, BOARD 6 SELF-EVALUATION. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION -- OH, 8 IS FROM A MOTION? 9 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL MOVE P3. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 13 ANY DISCUSSION? 14 PUBLIC COMMENT? 15 WE HAVE A CARD FROM KAREN SAGINOR. 16 MS. SAGINOR: IT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION. IN THE 17 VERY LAST PARAGRAPH WHERE IT SAYS, "THE BOARD SHALL ALSO 18 PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISTRICT SHARED GOVERNANCE 19 ORGANIZATIONS TO OFFER INPUT TO THE BOARD REGARDING THEIR 20 ASSESSMENT" -- 21 I BELIEVE THE WORD -- THE PRONOUN "THEIR" MEANS 22 INPUT TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE -- THEIR ASSESSMENT MEANS THE 23 ASSESSMENT BY DISTRICT SHARED GOVERNANCE ORGANIZATIONS, 24 BUT I AM NOT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT "THEIR" 25 REFERS TO. OCTOBER 27, 2011 150 1 COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: WAS THIS RAISED DURING COMMITTEE? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. I THINK THERE IS -- THAT 4 IS A GOOD POINT. IT IS LITTLE AMBIGUOUS. 5 MS. SAGINOR: I ASSUMED I KNEW WHAT IT MEANT 6 DURING THE COMMITTEE. IT WAS ONLY LATER WHEN SOMEBODY 7 ELSE SAID IS THAT WHAT IT MEANS? 8 AND I'M LIKE, WELL, I THINK SO. 9 I THOUGHT I SHOULD ASK FOR IT TO BE CLARIFIED. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO JUST STRIKE 11 "REGARDING THEIR ASSESSMENT OF THE" -- AND SO IT WOULD 12 READ, "THE BOARD SHALL ALSO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 13 DISTRICT SHARED GOVERNANCE ORGANIZATIONS TO OFFER INPUT TO 14 THE BOARD'S" -- NO, THAT DOESN'T MAKE -- 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OF THE BOARD. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PUT "OFFER INPUT OF THE 17 BOARD'S PERFORMANCE" -- 18 WOULD THAT WORK? 19 MS. SAGINOR: (INAUDIBLE.) 20 TRUSTEE BERG: SO WE NEED TO MOVE TO AMEND IT 21 THEN. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I CAN'T MOVE. IF SOMEONE WILL 23 MOVE THAT. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL MOVE TO AMEND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG WILL MOVE THAT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 151 1 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 3 SO WE ARE GOING TO STRIKE, "TO THE BOARD 4 REGARDING THEIR ASSESSMENT OF THE" AND REPLACE THAT WITH 5 "OF" SO IT WILL READ, "THE BOARD SHALL ALSO PROVIDE AN 6 OPPORTUNITY FOR DISTRICT SHARED GOVERNANCE ORGANIZATIONS 7 TO OFFER INPUT OF THE BOARD'S PERFORMANCE DURING THE PRIOR 8 YEAR." 9 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: (INAUDIBLE.) 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S A LITTLE CLEARER. INPUT 11 ON THE BOARD'S PERFORMANCE. 12 MR. TETI: ON. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. 15 A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE CORRECTING GRAMMAR IS 16 SCARY. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: I MOVE TO AMEND. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU MOVED IT TO AMEND. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND TRUSTEE NGO SECONDED. 21 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? 22 PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT? 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT? 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 152 1 AMENDMENT? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 10 THE AMENDMENT CARRIES. 11 NOW ON THE MOTION ITSELF AS AMENDED, IS THERE 12 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 13 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 14 ALL RIGHT. STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 25 OKAY, WE HAVE P3 APPROVED AS AMENDED. OCTOBER 27, 2011 153 1 COUNSEL, P4. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, P4 IS TO 3 AMEND THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT POLICY 4 MANUAL BY AMENDING THE EXISTING BOARD POLICY PM 1.15, CODE 5 OF ETHICS. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 11 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 12 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE 13 EDITS IN PARAGRAPH 8? 14 WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR DELETING "LEGAL 15 STANDING, TRUSTEE POWERS CANNOT BE UTILIZED IN ANY 16 INDIVIDUAL MANNER" INSERTING THAT LANGUAGE? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 18 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S PARAGRAPH 8, TRUSTEE BERG. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: HE WANTS IT EXPLAINED. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: "LEGAL STANDING" IS DELETED. 21 "TRUSTEE POWERS CANNOT BE UTILIZED IN ANY INDIVIDUAL 22 MANNER." 23 AND INSERTED IN ITS PLACE IS THAT "THE 24 INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE 25 DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES." OCTOBER 27, 2011 154 1 DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT WAS CHANGED THAT WAY? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS 3 (INAUDIBLE). 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. WHAT'S THE REASONING? 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK I REMEMBER THIS 6 THAT -- THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG ABOUT SAYING, BOARD 7 MEMBERS HAVE NO LEGAL STANDING. IT JUST SOUNDED FUNNY. 8 BOARD MEMBERS DO HAVE LEGAL STANDING AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, 9 AS COMMITTEE CHAIRS TO CALL HEARINGS -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TO SET DATES FOR MEETINGS 12 AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT WAS JUST ODD TO SAY, "A BOARD 13 MEMBER DOESN'T A LEGAL STANDING," YOU KNOW. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT WAS -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I MAY OBJECTED TO THAT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT EVEN THE SECOND -- EVEN THE 17 LAST SENTENCE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT LAST SENTENCE 18 SHOULD BE DELETED. IS THERE ANOTHER REASON WHY? 19 I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE MATERIAL 20 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WHAT WAS INSERTED, AND WHAT WAS 23 DELETED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT SUBSTANTIVE TO ME. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: REGARDING WHAT WAS DELETED, I 25 ALSO THINK IT'S TRUE THAT THERE'S NOTHING A BOARD MEMBER OCTOBER 27, 2011 155 1 CAN DO ON AN INDIVIDUAL -- AS AN INDIVIDUAL. THEY CAN 2 TALK TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY CAN SET MEETINGS AS CHAIRS. 3 YOU KNOW, THEY CAN -- I THINK IT'S NOT TRUE THAT -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT CANNOT BE UTILIZED IN ANY 6 INDIVIDUAL MANNER. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE FIRST 10 SENTENCE DIFFERS IN EFFECT FROM WHAT YOU DELETED BECAUSE 11 AT LEAST HOW I SEE THIS -- WHEN YOU SAY, "INDIVIDUAL BOARD 12 MEMBERS," INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT I PRESUME AND THE VICE 13 PRESIDENT -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: -- HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE 16 DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. I IMAGINE 17 YOU ARE SAYING, YOU CAN'T AS CHAIR SAY WHAT'S ON CONSENT 18 OR NOT ON CONSENT, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S TRUE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU HAVE AGENDA POWER, I IMAGINE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THE PRESIDENT HAS AGENDA 22 POWER. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THERE'S POLICIES THAT WE'VE OCTOBER 27, 2011 156 1 PUT IN PLACE THAT DO GIVE A LOT OF AUTHORITY TO THE 2 PRESIDENT. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I THOUGHT THE 3 ORIGINAL VERSION KIND OF MADE MORE SENSE, ESPECIALLY IF IT 4 CAME FROM A FORM POLICY. I AM NOT SURE IF IT DID OR NOT. 5 BUT IF IT CAME FROM A FORM POLICY, IF GINNY 6 RIEGEL HAD ALREADY PRODUCED IT IN THIS LANGUAGE, I AM SURE 7 THERE'S A REASON WHY IT WAS PRODUCED IN THAT LANGUAGE. 8 I DON'T WANT -- I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A 9 BOARD POLICY. SO WHEN YOU SAY, "INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS 10 HAVE NO AUTHORITY" -- WHEN YOU SET UP COMMITTEES AND 11 APPOINT CHAIRS, CHAIRS GET TO CONVENE MEETINGS WHEN THEY 12 CALL MEETINGS. 13 SO I AM ASSUMING YOU DON'T MEAN THAT BOARD 14 MEMBERS HAVE TO BE CHECKED IN ON TO SET MEETING TIMES AND 15 SET AGENDAS. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IN COMMITTEE WHY 16 THERE'S A DIFFERENCE HERE? 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF 18 PROBLEMATIC. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, OF COURSE. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: I THINK WE JUST PARSON THE 24 SENTENCE. AND THERE'S SENTENCES THAT -- THE INTENT OF 25 THIS IS TO SAY THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER COULD NOT OCTOBER 27, 2011 157 1 MAKE A DECISION FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD AND HAVE IF STAMPED. 2 THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SETTING A DATE FOR A COMMITTEE 3 MEETING. THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT. THAT'S NOT A DECISION 4 BEING MADE BY THE WHOLE BOARD. IT'S VOLUNTARY WHETHER YOU 5 ARE GOING TO COME TO A COMMITTEE OR NOT OR WHETHER YOU ARE 6 EVEN ON A COMMITTEE. BUT THIS IS THE INTENT. 7 MAYBE YOU WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH THE LANGUAGE, 8 BUT THE INTENT IS ACCURATE. ONE BOARD MEMBER CAN'T SAY 9 THIS IS THE POLICY OF THE BOARD. CAN'T DO THAT. THAT IS 10 ILLEGAL. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: THIS LANGUAGE, ALSO AS WRITTEN, 12 SAYS THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN'T MAKE THESE DECISIONS BY 13 HIMSELF OR HERSELF. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S RIGHT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I KNOW -- WELL, HE OR SHE -- 16 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S THE INTENT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- ACTUALLY CAN CONFER WITH THE 18 CHANCELLOR ON WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT 19 THE BOARD HAS TO AGREE BEFORE THE AGENDA IS NOTICED WHAT'S 20 ON THE AGENDA AND WHAT'S PUT ON CONSENT? 21 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, BECAUSE YOU VOTE ON THE 22 AGENDA. THE WHOLE BOARD VOTES ON THOSE WHETHER IT GETS 23 PASSED OR DOESN'T GET PASSED. SO PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA 24 IS NOT THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THAT. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 158 1 TRUSTEE BERG: PLACING IT ON THE AGENDA ISN'T 2 MAKING A DECISION FOR THE WHOLE BOARD BECAUSE WE VOTE ON 3 THAT AGENDA ITEM AND THEN THE BOARD MAKES THAT DECISION. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT THE PRESIDENT CAN ACTUALLY 5 KEEP THINGS OFF THE AGENDA. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: SO -- WELL, I AM JUST SAYING THAT 9 YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE PRESIDENT NO LONGER HAS THAT 10 AUTHORITY. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, I AM NOT SAYING THAT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, THAT'S -- OKAY, SO LOOK WE 13 OBVIOUSLY DISAGREE ON WHAT THE INTENT IS, AND THAT'S OKAY. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: I THINK THAT THIS IS -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY THE 16 LANGUAGE, I AM HAPPY TO TAKE THE CLARIFICATION. BUT THE 17 WAY I READ THIS, AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS ISSUE HAS 18 COME UP IN THE ACCREDITATION AND PEOPLE'S VIEWS OF BOARD 19 AUTHORITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR ON 20 WHAT -- WE WERE JUST PARSING WORDS A POLICY AGO, SO I NEED 21 TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER OUR BOARD POLICY IS, IT'S 22 WRITTEN, AND THERE'S NO ISSUE OF INTENT. 23 I MEAN I DON'T SEE WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE 24 ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. I WOULD SUGGEST GOING BACK TO IT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T LIKE SEEING INDIVIDUAL OCTOBER 27, 2011 159 1 BOARD MEMBERS HAVE NO LEGAL STANDING. I JUST DON'T THINK 2 THAT'S TRUE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, THEN I THINK WE ARE AT AN 4 IMPASSE BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, YOU ARE AN ELECTED 6 OFFICIAL. HOW COULD YOU HAVE NO LEGAL STANDING? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I 8 DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THE POLICY MEANS. THAT'S WHY I 9 THINK WE CLARIFY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: OR JUST PUT IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. 12 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PASSED 13 FOR ACCREDITATION PURPOSES. IS IT? 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT DOES. 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT DOES. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE FANG WANTS TO SAY 19 SOMETHING. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, TRUSTEE FANG. 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO 22 SAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION I THINK THE 23 LANGUAGE -- I WAS THERE FOR THE COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL. 24 I THINK THE INTENT IS THAT EVERY -- YOU KNOW, (INAUDIBLE). 25 I MEAN EVERY RESOLUTION, P RESOLUTION, THAT SETS OUR OCTOBER 27, 2011 160 1 POLICY IS VOTED BY THE WHOLE BOARD TWICE. I THINK WHAT IT 2 IS STATING IS THAT THE INTENT -- IF YOU COUPLE THAT WITH 3 THE INTENT, WHAT IT IS SAYING IS THAT -- 4 SAY THE PRESIDENT HAS THE POWER TO DO CERTAIN 5 THINGS BECAUSE THE POLICY STATES IT IS BECAUSE OF THE RISE 6 THROUGH THE DECISION OF THE ENTIRE BODY THAT WE MADE WE 7 PUT IN OUR POLICY. THEREFORE, EVEN THE PRESIDENT STATED 8 THAT HE HAS THE ABILITY TO DECIDE ON THE AGENDA ITEMS AND 9 WHATNOT. IT'S BECAUSE WE, AS A BOARD, AT SOME POINT VOTED 10 TWICE TO DECIDE THAT HE CAN DO THAT. AND I THINK THIS 11 CLEARS UP THE LANGUAGE FOR THE INTENT. I THINK THAT 12 THERE'S NO CONFLICT THERE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL 14 ABOUT WHAT AUTHORITY WE ARE NOT -- WE'RE DELINEATING IN 15 ANY POLICY DOCUMENT. 16 AND SO IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THIS LANGUAGE, 17 THAT'S FINE. I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT WE SHOULD 18 BE VERY CAUTIOUS. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, LET ME JUST -- 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CAN I -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- MAKE MENTION SOMETHING IN 22 THE RETREAT. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RETREAT, THE 23 MODERATOR HAD A SLIDE SHOW THAT CAME -- AND SHE WAS FROM 24 THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND IT CAME FROM SOME STATE 25 THING. SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT UP. AND IT ACTUALLY HAD -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 161 1 THERE WAS ONE SLIDE THAT HAD FULL BOARD AND INDIVIDUAL 2 MEMBERS. AND THEN THERE WAS A LIST OF THINGS, DUTIES, 3 RESPONSIBILITIES OF INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS. IT WASN'T BLANK. 4 IT DIDN'T SAY THAT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS CAN'T DO ANYTHING. 5 THERE WERE ACTUALLY THINGS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JUST A POINT OF 8 INFORMATION -- I'VE GOT TWO POINT OF INFORMATIONS. 9 FIRST, WHAT IS THE TIME LINE FOR THE 10 ACCREDITATION, LIKE, HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE UNTIL THAT 11 NEEDS TO GET IN? 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NOT MUCH. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A 14 SPECIAL MEETING IN A FEW WEEKS BEFORE THANKSGIVING. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO COULD WE TAKE 16 ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS LANGUAGE AND THEN PASS IT AT THE 17 SPECIAL MEETING? 18 THAT AT LEAST GIVES US SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT 19 IT SO WE COULD MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SIX OF THESE 20 THINGS. AND I THINK WE ARE ON NO. 2. SO MAYBE WE CAN 21 TAKE SOME TIME, LOOK AT IT, TRUSTEE NGO AND TRUSTEE BERG 22 CAN TALK OFFLINE AND GET SOMETHING READY FOR THE SPECIAL 23 MEETING. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S AN IDEA. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AS MUCH AS I LOVE OCTOBER 27, 2011 162 1 TALKING ABOUT POLICY AT 10:30 AT NIGHT, I MEAN -- 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN I -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE COULD JUST DELETE IT, THAT 4 SENTENCE. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I MEAN THE FIRST SENTENCE ALREADY 6 SAYS THAT WE MAKE DECISIONS AS A GROUP. I DON'T KNOW WHY 7 WE NEED TO -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, IT SAYS, "FUNCTION AS A 9 TEAM SEEKING TO STAY WELL-INFORMED AND TO ACT OBJECTIVELY. 10 BE INFORMED ABOUT THE DISTRICT" -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, I MEAN EVEN THE FIRST -- EVEN 12 BEFORE THAT LINE IN QUESTION. IT ALREADY SAYS THAT WE 13 DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE DECISIONS INDIVIDUALLY. SO 14 IT SEEMS EXTRANEOUS TO ME. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT? 16 TRUSTEE NGO: PARAGRAPH 8. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: IT SAYS, "RECOGNIZE THAT THE BOARD 19 OF TRUSTEES EXERCISES POWER THROUGH THE DECISIONS IT MAKES 20 AS A GROUP." 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THEN END THERE. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S WHAT I -- I MEAN I DON'T 23 KNOW WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE SECOND AND THIRD SENTENCE IS. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT IS KIND OF CONFUSING. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: COULD YOU JUST INSERT AND OCTOBER 27, 2011 163 1 SUGGEST THAT THE WORD "ONLY" IN THAT FIRST SENTENCE AND 2 GET RID OF THE OTHER. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE DECISION MAKES ONLY AS A 4 GROUP. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WOULD BE OKAY. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND THEN WIPE OUT THE REST 8 OF IT. 9 MR. TETI: (INAUDIBLE.) 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DECISIONS IT MAKES ONLY AS A 11 GROUP. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: RECOGNIZE THAT THE BOARD OF 13 TRUSTEES -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OR POWER ONLY THROUGH A 15 DECISION. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- THROUGH POWERS ONLY -- 17 MR. TETI: THEN THAT SENTENCE COULD STAND ALONE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU ARE A MATH TEACHER THOUGH, 19 AREN'T YOU? 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: HE'S ALSO ENGLISH. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU ARE ALSO ENGLISH, OH, 22 OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM OKAY WITH THAT AMENDMENT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT? 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 164 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 2 SO THERE'S MOTION TO -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD WELCOME A SECOND. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 6 THE MOTION TO AMEND IS TO STRIKE THE SECOND 7 SENTENCE AND ADD THE WORD "ONLY" AFTER "POWER" SO THAT IT 8 READS, "RECOGNIZE THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES EXERCISES 9 POWER ONLY THROUGH DECISIONS THAT IT MAKES AS A GROUP." 10 OKAY? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AND DELETE THE REST. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THE DELETE THE SECOND 13 PART, THE SECOND SENTENCE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I BELIEVE IT WAS SECONDED BY 15 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YES. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT 19 AMENDMENT? 20 OKAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 21 LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NAY? OKAY, NAY FOR STUDENT 25 TRUSTEE FANG. OCTOBER 27, 2011 165 1 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE BOARD? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 10 OKAY, SO THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED. 11 NOW ON THE WHOLE ISSUE. DO YOU HAVE ANY 12 OTHER -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I DO. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- CHANGES, OKAY. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: LOOK I MEAN THIS IS -- WE ARE 16 BASICALLY INSTITUTING A MECHANISM THAT WHEREBY BOARD 17 MEMBERS CAN BE CENSURED. OKAY? 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CENSURED? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, IT SAYS, IF THERE IS 20 MISCONDUCT, REFER TO AD HOC COMMITTEE, SUBJECT TO A 21 COMPLAINT. AND THERE'S -- WHERE IS IT? 22 "A BOARD MEMBER MAY BE SUBJECT TO A RESOLUTION 23 OF CENSURE BY THE GOVERNING BOARD SHOULD IT BE DETERMINE 24 THAT THE BOARD MEMBER MISCONDUCT HAS OCCURRED." 25 I AM NOT CLEAR ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS STANT IS A OCTOBER 27, 2011 166 1 CENSURE AUTHORITY THUS ONLY IN THIS POLICY OR ELSEWHERE. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AND IF SO, I KNOW THERE'S SOME 4 CONCERNS WITH DEFINING CIVILITY AND ETHICS BEFORE, BUT 5 WHAT DOES THIS MEAN THAT -- WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T TREAT 6 EMPLOYEES WITH COURTESY, RESPECT, AND CIVILITY? 7 DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE ARE SUBJECT TO CENSURE? 8 I AM CURIOUS WHAT WE ARE SETTING UP FOR 9 OURSELVES HERE. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: WHERE ARE YOU? 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE LAST PARAGRAPH. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S THE LAST PARAGRAPH, TRUSTEE 13 BERG, ON 34. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND IS THERE A RULE 15 THAT SAYS VICE VERSA? 16 SO LIKE WE TREAT EMPLOYEES RIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, 17 IS THERE A REVERSE OF THAT, LIKE, IF WE ARE NOT TREATED 18 RIGHT BY EMPLOYEES, IS THERE LIKE A SANCTION? 19 I MEAN I DON'T LIKE THE WORD "SANCTION" BECAUSE, 20 YOU KNOW, YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY YOU MIGHT THINK YOU ARE 21 TALKING NORMAL, AND THEY MIGHT THINK YOU ARE YELLING. AND 22 THEN ALL OF SUDDEN YOU ARE IN SOME PANEL THAT SANCTIONS 23 YOU. 24 I DON'T -- I MEAN I DON'T SEE WHY THAT'S 25 NECESSARY. I DON'T GET THAT LANGUAGE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 167 1 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE A 2 SIMPLE MAJORITY COULD SUBJECT ANY BOARD MEMBER TO CENSURE. 3 AND I AM JUST WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW -- 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN WHAT'S THE 5 NECESSITY TO CENSURE -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO BE 7 UNANIMOUS, NO. 1. BUT ALSO I WOULD WONDER WHAT 8 SUBJECTS -- HOW COULD ANYONE BE SUBJECTED TO CENSURE? 9 IS IT JUST VIOLATION OF THIS POLICY OR NOT? 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT ABOUT OTHER POLICIES? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THERE OTHER POLICIES -- 13 ARE THEY SUBJECT TO CENSURE? 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T KNOW. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT 15 HERE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN RIGHT NOW WE ARE 17 DOING COMMITTEE WORK RIGHT NOW. I MEAN I MADE THE COMMENT 18 LIKE FIVE MINUTES AGO THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 19 KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS IN THE PARKING LOT AND, YOU 20 KNOW, AND TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE SPECIAL MEETING THAT YOU 21 WANT TO DO AND PASS IT THEN. 22 THERE'S A LOT OF -- THERE'S CLEARLY A LOT OF 23 WORK. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE ABOUT PASSING ANYTHING THAT 24 TECHNICALLY HAS A MAJORITY, AND YOU GET SANCTIONED. I 25 DON'T LIKE THAT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 168 1 SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN KIND OF TALK 2 OFFLINE AND THEN HAVE THE MEETING, THE SPECIAL MEETING AND 3 PASS THIS. I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF 4 CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THIS STUFF. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT 7 YET. 8 MS. SAGINOR: (INAUDIBLE.) 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, THANK YOU. 10 SO THE ACCREDITATION STANDARD THAT WE ARE 11 MEETING IS IV.B.1.H, "THE GOVERNING BOARD HAS A CODE OF 12 ETHICS THAT INCLUDES A CLEARLY DEFINED POLICY FOR DEALING 13 WITH BEHAVIOR THAT VIOLATES THIS CODE." 14 WE HAVE TO HAVE -- THANK YOU. THIS IS HELPFUL. 15 SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS WHAT 16 HAPPENS IF THIS CODE OF ETHICS IS VIOLATED. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T EVEN THINK THIS POLICY 18 MEETS THAT STANDARD AS WRITTEN. SO YOU CAN PASS IT, BUT 19 IT'S SO -- FIRST OF ALL, ON THE MERITS SIDE WHICH IS 20 WHETHER WE PASS IT JUST TO ADHERE TO THAT POLICY BY THE 21 STANDARD, BUT IT'S NOT -- I DON'T THINK IT EVEN MEETS THAT 22 STANDARD. 23 I THINK TRUSTEE FANG HAS -- 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE FANG, YEP AND THEN 25 TRUSTEE BERG. OCTOBER 27, 2011 169 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY 2 THAT IF -- YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH 3 ISSUES IN THIS RESOLUTION. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE LIKE HAVE 4 EXPRESSED THEM. THE THING IS THOUGH IF WE CHANGE IT 5 SUBSTANTIALLY, THEN WE NEED TO DO IT -- WE DON'T NEED -- 6 WE CAN'T JUST DO ONE SPECIAL MEETING, WE MAY NEED TWO 7 BECAUSE THEN WOULDN'T IT BE COME BACK AS ANOTHER FIRST 8 READING IF IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED. 9 SO HOW IS THAT FITTING INTO THE TIME FRAME IF 10 THIS HAS -- IT ALSO CORRESPONDS TO ACCREDITATION. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WELL, I DON'T THINK 12 THAT'S A -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S A JUSTIFICATION TO PASS 13 BAD POLICY. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I AM NOT SAYING IT'S A 15 JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PASSING, I'M PROPOSING -- 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOU JUST SAID THAT. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- AN OPEN QUESTION. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOU -- 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: NO. TRUSTEE JACKSON, I 20 DIDN'T SAY THAT'S THE REASON FOR PASSING. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I SUGGEST THAT WE ADDRESS THE 24 LANGUAGE -- AND TELL ME IF WE CAN'T DO THIS, BUT I DON'T 25 KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN PASSED. WHY OCTOBER 27, 2011 170 1 CAN'T WE SAY, WE EXPECT A POLICY TO PASS BY THE END OF THE 2 YEAR TO COMPLY WITH THE STANDARD? 3 I MEAN -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, YEAH, WE COULD. IT 5 BECOMES A FINDING. AND WE HAVE A LIST OF THINGS WE 6 DON'T -- WE ARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I THOUGHT THE BOARD -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THAT, BUT WE COULD. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: -- JUST ESTABLISHED THAT WE WERE 10 OKAY WITH POINTING OUT PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH EACH 11 OTHER, SO -- 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO IN THAT LIGHT, WHAT IF 13 WE EXCLUDE THE LAST TWO SENTENCES OF THIS PARAGRAPH ON 14 PAGE 34? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I'M SORRY, TRUSTEE BERG. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: I AGREE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT 18 PAGE 5, IT LISTS OTHER THINGS THAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO 19 BE CULPABLE FOR IF THEY OCCUR -- THESE EVENTS OCCUR. 20 SO YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE 21 REPRIMANDED ONLY FOR THIS ONE THING BECAUSE LOOK AT P5, 22 AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: JUST TAKE OUT THE LAST TWO 24 SENTENCES. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THE CHANCELLOR MAKES A OCTOBER 27, 2011 171 1 GOOD POINT. IF WE DELETE THE LAST TWO SENTENCES, YOU 2 STILL MEET THE STANDARD OF POLICY DEALING WITH BEHAVIOR 3 BECAUSE IT SAYS, "THE GOVERNING BOARD WILL BE PREPARED TO 4 INVESTIGATE THE FACTUAL BASIS OF ANY CHARGE OR COMPLAINT 5 OF BOARD MEMBER MISCONDUCT." 6 SO THAT WOULD STAY AND MEET THE STANDARD. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I THINK YOU NEED THAT 8 CENSURE LANGUAGE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CENSURE SHOULDN'T BE A SIMPLE 10 MAJORITY THOUGH BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN HAVE -- YOU COULD 11 HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THEN YOU CAN HAVE FOUR 13 PEOPLE HERE AND THEN THREE OF THEM JUST -- YEAH. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: POLITICALLY MOTIVATED OR -- 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHAT DOES CENSURE -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- WHATEVER. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- MEAN ANYWAY? 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WELL, IT'S NOT DEFINED IN 19 THERE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S NOT DEFINED. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT HASN'T BEEN DEFINED 22 ANYWHERE. SO I -- 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD 25 BE USING -- I MEAN IS THAT CHANGING THE RESOLUTION TOO OCTOBER 27, 2011 172 1 MUCH TO TAKE THOSE TWO SENTENCES OUT? 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN I JUST DON'T 3 KNOW WHAT CENSURE IS AND, LIKE, WHAT OUR VERSION OF 4 CENSURE IS. LIKE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM 6 YOU'VE BEEN A BAD KID TO SOMETHING A LOT MORE ROUGHER. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: BECAUSE THE FACT IS WE 8 DIDN'T PASS A RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DEFINE ETHICS. 9 NOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT CAN 10 REALLY HAPPEN TO YOU, I THINK THAT STANDARD REALLY SHOULD 11 BE LIKE WHAT DOES CENSURE MEAN? 12 LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ONE DAY 13 LIKE THREE PEOPLE LEAVE, AND THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE ON THE 14 BOARD AND SOMEBODY TAKES A VOTE TO CENSURE SOMEBODY. THAT 15 DOESN'T SEEM FAIR TO ME. SO I THINK IT DOES NEEDS MORE 16 CONVERSATION AT SOME SORT OF COMMITTEE LEVEL. I DON'T 17 FEEL COMFORTABLE PASSING THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF 18 UNKNOWNS ABOUT THIS PIECE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE -- 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: CENSURE -- I JUST DID A 22 QUICK DEFINITION ONLINE DICTIONARY THING. IT IS A VERB, 23 EXPRESS SEVERE DISAPPROVAL OF SOMEONE OR SOMETHING 24 TYPICALLY IN A FORMAL STATEMENT. 25 THAT WOULD BE DEFINING CENSURE FOR WHAT IT IS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 173 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JUST A POINT OF 2 INFORMATION. I KNOW WHAT CENSURE MEANS. BUT I WANT TO 3 KNOW WHAT CENSURE MEANS TO US. LIKE, I KNOW LIKE THE 4 FORMAL DEFINITION OF CENSURE. 5 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF 6 THAT IS NOT ANSWERED. I DON'T THINK JUST BECAUSE OF 7 ACCREDITATION WE NEED TO RUSH POLICY THAT WE ARE GOING TO 8 BE STUCK WITH FOR A WHILE AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE 9 USE AS A WEAPON AGAINST FOLKS, EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT SAYING 10 IT WILL, BUT IT POTENTIALLY SETS UP AN UGLY SITUATION. 11 SO I AM SAYING WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE TIME TO 12 ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THIS IN A DIFFERENT SETTING AND JUST 13 MOVE FORWARD. AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT THIS TO THE 14 SIDE. IT'S NOT THAT CRUCIAL. I THINK WE CAN WAIT. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OH, I'M SORRY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR, PLEASE. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I THINK IT IS TIME TO GET 18 THIS DONE. I DON'T THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL TO TAKE OUT 19 THOSE TWO SENTENCES BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE 20 DEALING WITH CENSURE ANYWAY. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AND THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT 23 WE ARE DOING STILL MEETS -- UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER 24 ISSUES WITH THE LAST PARAGRAPH, I THINK WE ARE -- IT WOULD 25 BE GOOD WITHOUT THOSE TWO STATEMENTS ABOUT CENSURE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 174 1 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE 2 RATIONALE FOR DEFINING THINGS THAT WE HAVE. SO WHAT DOES 3 TREAT EMPLOYEES WITH COURTESY, RESPECT, AND CIVILITY MEAN, 4 SINCE WE HAVE AN ISSUE OF DEFINING WHAT THAT MEANS. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IS THERE -- I THINK WE ARE 6 TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF THIS TERM. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, SO WOULD THAT MEAN THAT A 8 COMPLAINT BY ONE BOARD MEMBER, WHICH IS ON THE BACK ON 9 PAGE 35, WILL BE REFERRED -- CAN BE REFERRED TO A 10 COMMITTEE OF TWO NOT SUBJECT TO THE COMPLAINT. AND 11 THERE'S AN INVESTIGATION INTO THAT. 12 I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED THE LAST 13 SENTENCE -- THE LAST PARAGRAPH EITHER. 14 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THIS 15 ALONG. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: I REALIZE THAT TOO, BUT I AM NOT 17 GOING TO PASS BAD POLICY. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE WORD 19 "CENSURE" IS A TERM OF ART. IT IS USED AND EVERYBODY 20 UNDERSTANDS IN WHAT CONTEXT IT'S USED AND THEY ALSO 21 UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF IT. AND YOU WILL FIND IT -- 22 I AM SURE IN ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER THERE WILL BE A 23 CONTEXT THERE FOR CENSURE. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WELL, BUT THAT -- 25 TRUSTEE BERG: (INAUDIBLE.) I REALLY AM SAYING OCTOBER 27, 2011 175 1 IT SO -- 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: BUT THE ACCREDITATION 3 NEVER SAID THAT YOU HAD TO CENSURE SOMEBODY. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU DO 5 HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PUNISHMENT. IF YOU HAVE 6 MISCONDUCT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME PENALTY FOR THAT. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHO SAID -- 8 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S -- OTHERWISE, IT'S 9 BASELESS. YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, BUT -- 11 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S COMMONSENSE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I MEAN HAVING AN INVESTIGATION 13 BY THE BOARD IS PRETTY SERIOUS IN ITSELF. TRUSTEE SMITH 14 IS BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE BOARD FOR MISCONDUCT. THAT 15 IN ITSELF IS A REAL INCENTIVE TO NOT HAVE MISCONDUCT. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. AND I THINK IF 17 YOU RELEASED THE FINDINGS OF YOUR INVESTIGATION AND YOU 18 ARE FOUND, LIKE, LIABLE FOR WHAT YOU DID, THAT'S 19 PUNISHMENT RIGHT THERE JUST RELEASING THE FINDINGS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND SO I DON'T THINK 22 THEY ASKED FOR A FORMAL CENSURE IN THE POLICY. I DON'T 23 THINK WE SHOULD -- NONE OF US ARE JUDGES. I DON'T THINK 24 WE SHOULD BE IN THE ACT OF CENSURING FOLKS ON THE BOARD. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO IF SOMEONE MISBEHAVED, OCTOBER 27, 2011 176 1 AND WE INVESTIGATE TO DO NOTHING BECAUSE THERE'S NO FORMAL 2 MEASURE ADOPTED -- 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WELL -- 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- WHAT WOULD IT LEAD TO? 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WELL, FIRST -- 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WHAT DOES IS REALLY 7 EXPRESS? 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- WE ARE NOT CHILDREN, 9 SO WE CAN'T MISBEHAVE. SO I WANT TO GET THAT CONTEXT OUT 10 OF HERE. 11 SO IF SOMEONE WRITES A FORMAL COMPLAINT -- YOU 12 KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU -- LIKE, ONE PERSON 13 CAN WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT. AND DOES THAT START THE 14 INVESTIGATION BECAUSE I DON'T GET THAT. 15 LIKE, IF I SAY, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE FELL ASLEEP 16 DURING THE SOUTHEAST PRESENTATION. AND I SAY, HEY, MAN, 17 YOU FELL ASLEEP. AND SOMEONE TOOK OFFENSE TO THAT, THEY 18 WOULD WRITE THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND THE CHANCELLOR AND 19 SAY, I DISAGREE. TRUSTEE JACKSON WAS UNCIVIL TO ME. AND 20 THEN ALL OF SUDDEN I AM INVESTIGATED. I DON'T LIKE HOW 21 THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE CAN GO. 22 SO I AM JUST KIND OF SAYING, LIKE, CAN WE PLEASE 23 LIKE RETHINK IT. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. I HAVE 25 BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR A VERY LONG TIME. LET ME TELL OCTOBER 27, 2011 177 1 YOU -- ACTUALLY HAVING BEEN IN THE DISTRICT FOR A LONG 2 TIME, LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY. 3 THERE HAVE BEEN BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE CREATED 4 EGREGIOUS WRONGS TO THE FACULTY, TO THE ADMINISTRATION 5 PUBLICLY SAYING TERRIBLE THINGS TO PEOPLE, AND SAYING IT 6 PUBLICLY. AND, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THE COMPLAINT -- 7 THE COMPLAINTS WERE MADE PUBLICLY. BUT FIRST OF ALL, YOU 8 INVESTIGATE THE COMPLAINT. YOU INVESTIGATE THE COMPLAINT. 9 IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE, IT GETS DROPPED. YOU ARE NOT 10 STUPID. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: BUT THE DAMAGE IS DONE. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU DROP IT. THE DAMAGE IS DONE, 13 HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PUNISHMENT IS DONE. 14 SO THE PUNISHMENT BECOMES THE CENSURE. AND THAT HAS TO BE 15 A STATEMENT MADE BY EVERYBODY SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT 16 ACCEPTABLE. THIS BEHAVIOR -- WE DON'T CONDONE THIS 17 BEHAVIOR IF THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG. 18 YOU COULD GO BACK OVER SOME OF THESE OLD TAPES 19 AND LISTEN TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF BOARD 20 MEMBERS MOUTHS. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THAT PROCESS -- I MEAN 22 THAT PROCESS DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT BECAUSE ONE PERSON CAN GO 23 AND BASICALLY INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION AND THE DAMAGE IS 24 DONE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY SOMEONE IS BEING 25 INVESTIGATED BY THE BOARD OR BY THE COLLEGE. THE DAMAGE OCTOBER 27, 2011 178 1 IS DONE. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE -- YOU CAN BE EXONERATED. 2 THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: THE DAMAGE ISN'T DONE IF YOU ARE 4 EXONERATED. IF YOU WERE EXONERATED, THERE'S NO DAMAGE. 5 THE INVESTIGATION ITSELF DOES NOT DEFINE -- 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CITY COLLEGE WAS 7 INVESTIGATED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF THE 8 ACCUSATIONS WERE ACTUALLY -- 9 TRUSTEE BERG: CITY COLLEGE HAD A LOT OF 10 COMPLAINTS AGAINST IT FOR THAT INVESTIGATION. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, BUT THE DAMAGE 12 WAS DONE. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: BUT -- 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THE FACT THAT CITY 15 COLLEGE WAS INVESTIGATED FOR SOME STUFF, THE DAMAGE WAS 16 DONE. NO ONE CARED IF WE WERE INNOCENT OR THAT IT WAS 17 DONE FOR A GOOD CAUSE. ALL THEY HEARD WAS CITY COLLEGE 18 WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION. AND YOU HEARD OUR FOUNDATIONS. 19 PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE MONEY BECAUSE OF THAT. OUR 20 DAMAGE WAS DONE WHEN THEY SAID WE ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, UNFORTUNATELY -- 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO I AM HOLDING THAT 23 SAME STANDARD TO BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE HELD FOR THE 24 COLLEGE ITSELF WHEN WE WERE UNDER INVESTIGATION. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE RIGHT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 179 1 BUT THAT DAMAGE WAS DONE BY OUR BOARD. BECAUSE THAT WAS 2 OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO PUT THEIR NAME IN THE NEWSPAPER AND 3 MADE THE ACCUSATIONS IN THE NEWSPAPER. SO I THINK THAT WE 4 SHOULD RETHINK THAT. AND NOBODY ON THE BOARD GOT 5 INVESTIGATED AND NOBODY ON THE BOARD GOT A COMPLAINT. SO 6 I THINK THAT JUST SAYS TO US THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS 7 NOT NECESSARILY TRUE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEES, WHY DON'T WE GET 9 BACK TO THIS. I THINK -- 10 CHANCELLOR, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, I WANT TO TRY AGAIN. 12 SO IF I CAN SUGGEST THE LAST TWO SENTENCES ON 13 PAGE 34 SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT. AND WE SHOULD PRESERVE ONLY 14 THE LAST TWO SENTENCES ON PAGE 35. 15 BECAUSE THEN IT KEEPS IT DEALING WITH BOARD AND 16 NOT A COMMITTEE. AND THE LANGUAGE IS ABOUT WHAT THE BOARD 17 CAN DO, AND IT DOESN'T GET TWO PEOPLE DOING SOMETHING -- 18 IT JUST BASICALLY READS THAT THERE WILL BE A COMPLAINT OF 19 BOARD MEMBER MISCONDUCT PREPARED TO INVESTIGATE THE 20 FACTUAL BASIS BEHIND ANY CHARGE FOR A COMPLAINT OF BOARD 21 MEMBERS CONDUCT -- THAT'S THE GOVERNING BOARD -- AND THE 22 BOARD MEMBERS SUBJECT TO THE CHARGE OF MISCONDUCT SHALL 23 NOT BE PRECLUDED FROM PRESENTING INFORMATION -- 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TO THE BOARD. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- TO THE BOARD. OCTOBER 27, 2011 180 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TO THE BOARD. AND THE 3 BOARD SHALL -- INSTEAD OF COMMITTEE -- THE BOARD SHALL 4 WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME MAKE A REPORT TO THE -- 5 SHOULD MAKE A REPORT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I LIKE THAT. I THINK IT 7 SHOULD REPORT TO THE BOARD, NOT A COMMITTEE. OTHERWISE 8 YOU COULD HAVE WITCH-HUNTS. I THINK -- I SUPPORT THESE 9 CHANGES. I THINK THAT DEALS WITH THE PROBLEMS. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN YOU RESTATE THAT? 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY, SO I AM SAYING THAT 12 ON PAGE 34, YOU STOPPED AT "BOARD MEMBER MISCONDUCT" 13 PERIOD. AND THEN YOU BEGIN BY PICKING UP ON PAGE 35 WITH 14 THE LAST -- "THE BOARD MEMBER SUBJECT TO THE CHARGE OF 15 MISCONDUCT SHALL NOT BE PRECLUDED FROM PRESENTING 16 INFORMATION TO THE BOARD," NOT THE COMMITTEE, BUT TO THE 17 BOARD. AND "THE BOARD SHALL, WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD 18 OF TIME, MAKE A REPORT" PERIOD. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MAKE A REPORT, YEAH. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IF I AM UNDERSTANDING 21 CORRECTLY, IS THE FIRST SENTENCE ON PAGE 35 STILL THERE? 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ALL THAT'S GONE UNTIL YOU OCTOBER 27, 2011 181 1 GET TO THE LAST TWO SENTENCES WHICH I AM SAYING MODIFY 2 THOSE LAST TWO SENTENCES AND STRIKE EVERYTHING ELSE OUT. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ALL REFERENCE TO A 5 COMMITTEE. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN IN THE -- SO WHAT I 7 UNDERSTAND FROM PAGE 34, THE LAST PARAGRAPH PAGE 34 -- 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT EVERYTHING AFTER "A BOARD 10 MEMBER MAY BE SUBJECTED TO" IS DELETED. IS THAT RIGHT? 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BEFORE THAT. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BEFORE THAT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, EVEN BEFORE THAT. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: "THE GOVERNING BOARD WILL BE 18 PREPARED TO INVESTIGATE." 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: "THE GOVERNING BOARD WILL 20 BE PREPARED TO INVESTIGATE THE FACTUAL BASIS BEHIND ANY 21 CHARGE OR COMPLAINT OF BOARD MEMBER MISCONDUCT" PERIOD. 22 STOP. THE REST OF IT GOES ON PAGE -- THAT'S ELIMINATED. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THE ONLY SENTENCE -- THE LAST 24 SENTENCE ON PAGE 34 IS "ALL GOVERNING BOARD MEMBERS ARE 25 EXPECTED TO MAINTAIN THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF CONDUCT AND OCTOBER 27, 2011 182 1 ETHICAL BEHAVIOR AS ENUMERATED ABOVE." 2 IS THAT RIGHT? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THEN THE FOLLOWING 6 SENTENCE ALSO. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: AND -- 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: OH. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: "THE GOVERNING BOARD WILL BE 11 PREPARED TO INVESTIGATE THE FACTUAL BASIS" -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: SO WHO WOULD BE -- SO ANY FACULTY 13 MEMBER COULD INITIATE A COMPLAINT AGAINST A BOARD MEMBER. 14 IS THAT RIGHT? 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, IT DOESN'T -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK IT SAYS THAT. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S NOT SAYING THAT. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, WHERE DO THE COMPLAINTS COME 19 FROM? 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I AM ASSUMING THAT IF A 21 COMPLAINT IS COMING FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS OR FROM SOME 22 OTHER SOURCE, THAT THE BOARD IS PREPARED TO INVESTIGATE 23 THE FACTUAL BASIS WHICH THEY SHOULD BE ANYWAY OF A 24 COMPLAINT. 25 AND THE LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS -- THE TWO SENTENCES OCTOBER 27, 2011 183 1 BECAUSE THEN IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT, "THE BOARD MEMBER 2 SUBJECT TO THE CHARGE AND MISCONDUCT SHALL NOT BE 3 PRECLUDED FROM PRESENTING INFORMATION TO THE BOARD." AND 4 WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME, A REPORT. 5 SO I THINK THAT DEALS WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DEAL 6 WITH. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF -- I WOULD 8 RATHER ENUMERATE WHO CAN MAKE A COMPLAINT, ESPECIALLY 9 GIVEN PARAGRAPH 10. THERE'S NO SIMILAR PARAGRAPH 10 IN 10 THE INSTITUTIONAL CODE OF ETHICS AS IT RELATES TO BOARD 11 MEMBERS AS TRUSTEE JACKSON NOTED. 12 AND I CAN -- JUST GIVEN THE TOXIC NATURE OF SOME 13 OF OUR RELATIONS HERE, THAT'S DISTURBING THAT PEOPLE MAY 14 TAKE -- BE ABLE TO TAKE POTSHOTS AT THE BOARD EVEN THROUGH 15 THIS DEVISE, GIVEN THAT IT'S BEEN DONE ALREADY IN OTHER 16 SERIOUS DOCUMENTS. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE -- WE 18 HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY FOR DEALING WITH VIOLATIONS OF THIS 19 POLICY. I MEAN THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. THAT'S IN THE 20 ACCREDITATION. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT 24 WHAT TEN MEANS. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. OCTOBER 27, 2011 184 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WELL, IF I MAY, IF WE ARE 2 REALLY HAVING SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH HAVING SORT OF A 3 PUNISHMENT MEASURED JUST IN CASE, WHY DON'T WE PUT IN A 4 SENTENCE TO DEFINE HOW AN INVESTIGATION WOULD BE STARTED. 5 THEN EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW IT WOULDN'T BE STARTED BY ONE 6 PERSON. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, TRUSTEE FANG? 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I AM SUGGESTING -- I 9 DON'T HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE IN MY HEAD, BUT THE CONCEPT 10 IS IF EVERYONE IS SO -- IF THE FEAR IS THAT ONE PERSON CAN 11 START A WITCH-HUNT OF BOARD MEMBERS, THEN WE CAN DEFINE 12 HOW -- WHAT KIND OF THRESHOLD WE WANT TO PUT FOR AN 13 INVESTIGATION TO BE STARTED. THEN IT WON'T BE ANY ONE CAN 14 ACCUSE, ANYONE CAN START AN INVESTIGATION. 15 WOULD THAT PUT EASE FOR OUR COLLEAGUES HERE? 16 TRUSTEE NGO: LOOK, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S 17 BEEN ISSUES BETWEEN HOW THE BOARD RELATES TO EACH OTHER 18 AND TO THE STAFF AND FACULTY AND ADMINISTRATORS. THERE -- 19 IT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE ONE SIDED IN OUR CODE OF ETHICS OF 20 THE BOARD TO TREAT STAFF AND EMPLOYEES WITH CIVILITY AND 21 THAT'S SIMILARLY IS NOT CALLED FOR IN THE INSTITUTIONAL OF 22 CODE OF ETHICS. 23 AND THEN TO CREATE A DEVICE TO LEVER -- TO LODGE 24 COMPLAINTS AGAINST BOARD MEMBERS, I JUST DON'T -- I'M 25 JUST -- GIVEN THAT THERE'S BEEN KIND OF LACK OF ALACRITY OCTOBER 27, 2011 185 1 TO THRUST POLITICS INTO IMPORTANT ISSUES OR DOCUMENTS 2 DISCONCERT ME. 3 (TRUSTEE BERG LEAVES THE MEETING.) 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE IS -- YOU HAVE A GOOD 5 POINT. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE OTHER CODE OF ETHICS. 6 THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT CIVILITY. IT SAYS, IT'S ETHICAL TO 7 BE COURTEOUS. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I MEAN I AM JUST WONDERING IF 10 THAT SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE ELSE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I WONDER IF THIS SENDS THE 12 WRONG MESSAGE TO THE COLLEGE THAT THE CODE OF ETHICS FOR 13 EMPLOYEES -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS DIFFERENT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: -- IS NOT THE SAME AS FOR THE 16 BOARD. WE MIGHT GET MORE OF THIS BEHAVIOR OR ENCOURAGE 17 IT. BECAUSE THERE'S NO CODE OF ETHICS FOR EMPLOYEES AS 18 THEY RELATE TO US. BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S 19 ONE FOR US WHEN IT RELATES TO THEM. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AND RELATE TO THEM. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: IF THAT'S THE MESSAGE WE ARE GOING 24 TO SEND, WE COULD PROBABLY SEE MORE OF THE SAME IN MY 25 OPINION. OCTOBER 27, 2011 186 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I MEAN IT'S PROPER -- IT'S 2 ABSOLUTELY PROPER THAT TRUSTEES TREAT EMPLOYEES WITH 3 COURTESY. BUT IS IT A PUNISHABLE OFFENSE IF THEY DON'T. 4 I MEAN MAYBE THIS BELONGS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN ANOTHER 5 POLICY. RIGHT? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I MEAN IF THERE WAS NO NEED 7 FOR THIS LANGUAGE TO BE IN THE INSTITUTIONAL CODE OF 8 ETHICS, I DON'T KNOW THIS NEEDS TO BE IN -- 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S NOT IN THERE. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THIS POLICY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: UNLESS WE ARE HAVING A DOUBLE 13 STANDARD. ARE WE? 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: DO YOU WANT TO SEND THIS 15 BACK TO COMMITTEE TO WORK ON IT WITH NOTES FROM US? 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHAT THE -- NOW -- YOU 17 KNOW WHAT NOW, I SAID THAT AT 10:20. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. CALM DOWN. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I SAID THAT AT 10:20. 20 LET'S SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE AND TALK ABOUT IT. NOW 21 IT'S A GOOD IDEA, WOW, OKAY. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, IT'S STILL NOT A GOOD 23 IDEA. IT WASN'T THEN, AND IT'S NOT NOW. WE SHOULD FIX 24 TEN SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A -- 25 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, LET'S JUST MATCH -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 187 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- SUCH A BROAD 2 (INAUDIBLE). 3 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TEN WITH WHAT'S IN THE 4 INSTITUTE OF ETHICS AND MAYBE -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT'S THIS THREE OR NO -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WE WILL BE OKAY. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TWO, P2. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TO DEVELOP A CLIMATE OF 9 TRUST AND MUTUAL SUPPORT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: WHY DON'T WE -- HOW ABOUT WE DO 11 THIS. IF THIS IS -- WHY DON'T WE DO THIS. 12 FOR PARAGRAPH 10, WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL SAY 13 "BOARD MEMBERS SHALL ADHERE, LIKE OTHER EMPLOYEES, TO THE 14 INSTITUTIONAL CODE OF ETHICS." 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY NEAT. 16 I LIKE THAT. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOUR EMPLOYEES. 18 MR. TETI: YOU CAN'T SAY -- OTHERS JUST LIKE 19 EMPLOYEES. 20 MS. SAGINOR: LIKE EMPLOYEES. 21 MR. TETI: YOU ARE NOT EMPLOYEES, SO YOU CAN'T 22 SAY -- 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: JUST LIKE EMPLOYEES. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 25 SUGGESTION WAS, BUT I AM WILLING TO ACCEPT IT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 188 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, LIKE EMPLOYEES. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, THEN WE ALL HAVE THE SAME 3 CODE OF ETHICS. HOW'S THAT? 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 5 CAN YOU READ THAT BACK AGAIN? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T REMEMBER IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LIKE EMPLOYEES. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: BOARD MEMBERS SHALL ADHERE LIKE 9 OTHER EMPLOYEES OR LIKE EMPLOYEES? 10 MR. TETI: YOU ARE NOT EMPLOYEES, SO NOT 11 (INAUDIBLE). 12 TRUSTEE NGO: WE ARE EMPLOYEES. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YES, WE ARE. 14 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: NO, YOU ARE NOT. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. NO. YOU ARE NOT 16 CONSIDERED TO BE. YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE EMPLOYEES. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S A VERY LITTLE MATTER. 18 IT DOESN'T MATTER. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST GET A PAYCHECK, SO I GUESS 20 I'M NOT AN EMPLOYEE. I DON'T KNOW. 21 "BOARD MEMBERS SHALL ADHERE TO THE INSTITUTIONAL 22 CODE OF ETHICS LIKE ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE CITY COLLEGE 23 COMMUNITY." 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IN REFERENCE -- 25 TRUSTEE NGO: HOW'S THAT? OCTOBER 27, 2011 189 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I LIKE THAT. REFERENCE 2 BP 3050. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. AND THEN OTHERWISE I THINK 4 WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS TAKE THE CHANCELLORS RECOMMENDATIONS 5 AS TO THE HANDLING OF VIOLATIONS. BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO 6 IS MAYBE SAY THAT THE BOARD SHALL DEVELOP -- MAYBE WE 7 CAN'T DO THIS, BUT "THE BOARD SHALL DEVELOP A PROTOCOL BY 8 WHICH COMPLAINTS WILL BE LODGED AGAINST ANY BOARD MEMBER." 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS SOMEONE GETTING THIS ALL 13 DOWN? 14 TRUSTEE NGO: SO NO. 10, BASICALLY THE ENTIRE 15 DOCUMENT IS AS IS, EXCEPT FOR PARAGRAPH 10 WHICH READS 16 "THAT BOARD MEMBERS SHALL ADHERE TO BP" -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: 3050. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: -- "THE INSTITUTION CODE OF ETHICS 19 LIKE ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE CITY COLLEGE COMMUNITY." 20 AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE -- THE LAST 21 PARAGRAPH OF PAGE 34, YOU ARE GOING TO DELETE EVERY 22 SENTENCE THERE, EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST ONE AND THE SECOND 23 ONE. YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP THOSE. AND YOU ARE GOING TO 24 ADD A SENTENCE THAT SHALL READ, "THE GOVERNING BOARD SHALL 25 DEVELOP PROTOCOLS THAT DETERMINE HOW ITS MEMBERS ARE OCTOBER 27, 2011 190 1 INVESTIGATED CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE LAW AND DUE 2 PROCESS" PERIOD. 3 AND THEN THE LAST -- PAGE 35, I THINK, 4 CHANCELLOR, EVERYTHING WAS DELETED, EXCEPT FOR THE LAST 5 TWO SENTENCES. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT THE LAST TWO SENTENCES 7 WERE CHANGED SO -- 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AND -- YEAH. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: "COMMITTEE" IS REPLACED WITH 10 "BOARD." 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 12 AND THEN THE FIRST SENTENCE -- I'M SORRY. THE 13 FIRST SENTENCE IS NOT DELETED. AT THE END OF THE 14 SENTENCE, IT'S COMMITTEE. ACTUALLY, EVERY -- WHEREVER YOU 15 SEE "COMMITTEE," YOU ARE GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH "BOARD." 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: "BOARD MEMBER SUBJECT TO THE 17 CHARGE OF MISCONDUCT SHALL NOT BE PRECLUDED FROM 18 PRESENTING INFORMATION TO THE BOARD" -- YEAH, "THE BOARD 19 SHALL WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME MAKE A REPORT" PERIOD. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PERIOD. LEAVE OUT -- 21 TRUSTEE NGO: SO FIND AND REPLACE "COMMITTEE" 22 WITH "BOARD." 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, IT'S NOT JUST THAT, YOU 24 WOULD DELETE THE LAST -- "OF ITS FINDING TO THE GOVERNING 25 BOARD FOR ACTION." OCTOBER 27, 2011 191 1 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S REDUNDANT. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S MY AMENDMENT. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO THAT'S A MOTION. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I MOVE IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THAT'S A MOTION BY TRUSTEE 8 NGO. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: GOOD. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WE GOT IT. 13 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 14 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT? 15 DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THE AMENDMENT? 16 TRUSTEE WONG. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, NO, I MEAN IT'S NOT ABOUT 18 THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT ALL OF THIS IS 19 INITIALLY ABOUT THE DISPARITY IN POWER BETWEEN THE BOARD 20 OF TRUSTEES AND OUR EMPLOYEES. AND THE FACT IS THAT WE 21 APPROVE CONTRACTS, WE HIRE, WE FIRE. OUR EMPLOYEES REALLY 22 CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO US BECAUSE WE ARE ELECTED BY THE 23 PEOPLE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 24 SO THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOUR 25 CONCERNS, BUT THERE IS THIS RECOGNITION THAT THIS IS NOT A OCTOBER 27, 2011 192 1 LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. 2 DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY? 3 AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. I UNDERSTAND 4 WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM, BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE 5 REALITIES. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU KNOW. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I AGREE. 9 ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENT? 10 NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 11 NO FURTHER BOARD DISCUSSION. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE, ON THE AMENDMENT. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NAY, OKAY. 15 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT? 16 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 20 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 24 WE HAVE ONE, JUST ONE. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER, ARE YOU -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 193 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO, IT'S OKAY. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S OKAY? 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO THE AMENDMENT PASSES. 5 NOW ON THE AMENDED P4 RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE -- 6 OH, SORRY. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WE NEED TO CONSIDER -- 8 WITH ALL THE CHANGES, WOULD THIS BE CONSIDERED ANOTHER 9 FIRST READING NOW? 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 11 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I DON'T THINK SO. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: OKAY. THAT'S FINE. 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE 14 SUBSTANTIVE THRUST OF WHAT THE ACCREDITATION REQUIRES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I MEAN IF YOU WERE TO STRIP 17 IT ALL OUT, THAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIVE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE 19 MAIN MOTION? 20 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 24 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 194 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 3 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 7 OKAY, P4 IS DONE. 8 P5, COUNSEL. 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY, YES, MR. PRESIDENT, P5 10 IS TO AMEND THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY DISTRICT POLICY 11 MANUAL BY AMENDING EXISTING BOARD POLICY PM 1.07, POWERS 12 AND DUTIES OF THE BOARD. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION FOR 14 P5? 15 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 17 IS THERE A SECOND? 18 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 20 ANY DISCUSSION? 21 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE 22 THAT WE, BY SPECIFICALLY ENUMERATING OUR POWERS, WE ARE 23 NOT LEAVING ANY OUT. SO I WANT TO CATCHALL WHICH IS WE 24 CAN DO THIS AT THE END. 25 AFTER "ORDER ELECTIONS AS AUTHORIZED BY THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 195 1 EDUCATION CODE." 2 SO MAYBE THE EDIT IS "THIS POLICY IS NOT 3 INTENDED TO LIMIT ANY AUTHORITY" -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GIVEN BY THE STATE OF 5 CALIFORNIA. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: -- "AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD UNDER 7 ALL APPLICABLE LAWS." 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: TRUSTEE NGO, I'M SORRY. 11 CAN YOU READ THAT BACK? 12 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, "THIS POLICY IS NOT INTENDED 13 TO LIMIT ANY AUTHORITY AND POWERS OF THE BOARD UNDER ALL 14 APPLICABLE LAWS." 15 I THINK THAT WAS -- IT MAY HAVE BEEN LISTED IN 16 THE BEGINNING, BUT IT WASN'T AS CLEAR I THINK FOR ME 17 BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT ARE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE 18 LAW. BUT BY LISTING IT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT'S 19 EVERYTHING WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO? 20 I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE SAME AS WE WHAT I JUST 21 PROPOSED. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT 24 AMENDMENT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, BEFORE YOU DO THAT -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 196 1 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THE ONE "DELEGATE AUTHORITY 3 IN ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS TO THE CHANCELLOR. PROBLEMS 4 AND ISSUES THAT ARISE SHALL BE REFERRED TO THE CHANCELLOR 5 TO BE DEALT WITH THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE CHANNELS OR BE 6 PLACED ON THE BOARD AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION." 7 WHAT ABOUT PROBLEMS THAT MIGHT GO TO THE AUDIT 8 COMMITTEE? 9 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I MEAN I THINK EVEN -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO SAY -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THAT -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO SAY BOARD OR 13 COMMITTEE OR -- 14 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK THAT PARAGRAPH AND ALSO 15 THE ONE AFTER IT IS -- I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE ENUMERATING 16 POWERS, BUT -- BECAUSE WE CAN GO ON AND ON IN THE ED CODE. 17 WHY WE ARE CHOOSING TO ENUMERATE THESE POWERS, I DON'T 18 KNOW. 19 BUT I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS TO 20 BE INVOLVED IN THE HIRING. ONLY AT THE POINT AT WHICH 21 CANDIDATES ARE RECOMMENDED. 22 SO WHAT DOES "INVOLVE" MEAN? 23 DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN'T TALK TO THE CHANCELLOR 24 EVER ABOUT ANY QUALIFICATIONS OR JOB ANNOUNCEMENT? 25 AND ONLY AT THE POINT AT WHICH CANDIDATES -- SO OCTOBER 27, 2011 197 1 BEING INVOLVED DOES THAT MEAN APPROVING EVEN THE BUDGET 2 FOR HIRING OF THAT STAFFER OR ADMINISTRATOR OR FACULTY? 3 I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S THERE. IT'S KIND OF 4 UNNECESSARY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE HAD BOARD MEMBERS ON 6 HIRING COMMITTEES. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. WE'VE ALSO HAD BOARD 8 MEMBERS I KNOW WHO MAY BE HAVE PREFERENCES FOR FOLKS, BUT 9 I JUST THINK THAT IS UNNECESSARY. AND YOU ARE RIGHT, I 10 THINK MAYBE EVEN THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE IT IS ALSO 11 UNNECESSARY. 12 ADMINISTRATIVE CHANNELS, OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT 13 THAT MEANS. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY 15 THE ABILITY TO HAVE BOARD MEMBERS SERVE ON A HIRING 16 COMMITTEE. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T THINK WE DO GIVEN THE 18 AMENDMENT I JUST OFFERED. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. WELL -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD 21 DELETE -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: WE SHOULD DELETE THAT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM AGREEING. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. OCTOBER 27, 2011 198 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHICH ONE ARE YOU 2 REFERRING? 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SO "DELEGATE AUTHORITY IN ALL 4 ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS TO THE CHANCELLOR." I MEAN THAT'S 5 OBVIOUSLY OKAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE SECOND SENTENCE 6 NEEDS TO BE THERE. IT SEEMS TOO PRESCRIPTIVE AND 7 MICROMANAGING -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT DOES. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: -- OF US. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: UH-HUH. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THE SECOND -- THE PARAGRAPH 12 AFTER THAT IS ALSO -- "INVOLVED" IS A LITTLE TOO -- 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: VAGUE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, AND SUBJECT TO PROBLEMATIC 15 INTERPRETATIONS IN MY OPINION. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BE INVOLVED IN. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I WOULD SUGGEST THE AMENDMENT 18 THAT I JUST MADE REFERRING TO KEEPING "ALL AUTHORITY GIVEN 19 TO US BY LAW." 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BY LAW. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AND ALSO IN THE PARAGRAPH THAT 22 SAYS, "DELEGATE AUTHORITY IN ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS," 23 I WOULD KEEP THAT SENTENCE AND DELETE THE SENTENCE AFTER 24 THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REDUNDANT AND TOO PRESCRIPTIVE 25 OF US. AND THEN I WOULD DELETE THE ENTIRE SUBSEQUENT OCTOBER 27, 2011 199 1 PARAGRAPH. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I AGREE. 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO LET'S -- I WANT TO BE 4 CLEAR. THE -- I DON'T RECALL -- BECAUSE IF THAT PARAGRAPH 5 MEANS THAT BOARD MEMBERS WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE HIRING 6 PROCESS, SUCH AS COMMITTEES AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, I DON'T 7 THINK WE WANT THAT. 8 AND SECONDLY -- 9 (TRUSTEE WONG LEAVES THE MEETING.) 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, I AM JUST SAYING IF IT 12 DOES, THAT'S THE IMPLICATION OF IT. WE CERTAINLY DON'T 13 WANT TO GET -- CREEP OFF INTO THE AREA OF WHERE THE BOARD 14 IS ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN HIRING OF INDIVIDUALS. SO I AM 15 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP THAT PART IN THERE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, YOU WANT TO KEEP THE PART 17 ABOUT US NOT BEING INVOLVED IN THE HIRING? 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: RIGHT, HIRING AND PROMOTION 19 OF SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: WOULDN'T THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE 23 FIRST PARA -- SENTENCE "DELEGATE AUTHORITY IN ALL 24 ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS TO THE CHANCELLOR." 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. WELL -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 200 1 TRUSTEE NGO: WE CAN SPECIFY, INCLUDING HIRING, 2 ESPECIALLY HIRING. BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS -- THAT'S 3 VESTED YOU WITH THE AUTHORITY. YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT 4 TO US FOR COMMITTEES OR QUESTIONS ABOUT PROMOTIONS AND 5 ASSIGNMENTS AND WHATNOT. THAT GIVES YOU A LOT OF 6 AUTHORITY IN MY OPINION. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, 8 GIVES ME AUTHORITY. WHICH ONE YOU REFER TO THAT GIVES ME 9 A LOT OF AUTHORITY? 10 TRUSTEE NGO: "DELEGATE AUTHORITY IN ALL 11 ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS TO THE CHANCELLOR." 12 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. I MEAN IF THAT'S -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I COULD SAY, "ESPECIALLY HIRING" 14 OR "INCLUDED, BUT NOT LIMITED TO HIRING." 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT MIGHT BE -- THAT MIGHT 16 MAKE IT MORE EXPLICIT -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- IF WE ARE TAKING THIS 19 OUT. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. LET'S DO 21 "DELEGATE AUTHORITY IN ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS, 22 INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO HIRING" COMMA -- OH, "HIRING 23 OR PROMOTION OF SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS." 24 HOW'S THAT? 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. OCTOBER 27, 2011 201 1 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU 2 WANTED, CHANCELLOR. 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: LET'S JUST DO THAT LANGUAGE UP -- 5 AND THEN INCLUDING BUT NOT -- 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, HOLD ON NOW. THE BOARD 7 DOES HAVE TO APPROVE THE HIRING AND PROMOTIONS SPECIFIC, 8 SO WE ARE NOT COMPLETELY DELEGATING IT. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, BUT I THINK MY CATCHALL 10 LANGUAGE SAVES US AT THE END. 11 IT DOESN'T EVISCERATE THAT AUTHORITY. I THINK 12 THAT GIVES THE CHANCELLOR SUFFICIENT CERTAINTY THAT HE HAS 13 HIS AUTHORITY WITHOUT -- BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO 14 APPOINT -- WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS. THAT'S A 15 LEGAL THING. I DON'T -- I THINK THAT'S -- 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: RIGHT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, YEAH. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT? 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S WHAT I SUGGEST. I WILL 22 MOVE THAT AS AN AMENDMENT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: BEFORE YOU DO THAT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 202 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST 2 PARAGRAPH. IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A GIVEN, APPROVE 3 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THAT EXCEED -- IS THAT WHY THAT'S 4 OMITTED? IS THAT WHY YOU ARE LEAVING THAT OUT? 5 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, THAT'S IN THERE STILL. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, IT IS. OH. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: IT'S THE ONE ABOVE THAT. 8 ALTHOUGH, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE FOCUSSING ON SPECIFIC 9 PROVISIONS OF THE ED OR CONTRACT CODE THAT ENUMERATE IN 10 THIS POLICY. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T KNOW WHY. IT WAS 12 ADDED IT LOOKS LIKE. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 14 I DON'T KNOW. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, OKAY. YEAH, WELL -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S STILL THERE. THAT THE -- 17 HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THAT POLICY LANGUAGE IS THAT 18 NUMBER CAN CHANGE BY STATE LAW. AND WE WILL JUST HAVE TO 19 CONFORM IT ALL THE TIME. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TO 20 MAKE EXPLICIT THESE NUMBERS EVEN BECAUSE THAT COULD 21 CHANGE. 22 IT SAYS, "SUBJECT TO ANNUAL CHANGE" IN FACT. SO 23 WHY -- LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST UNNECESSARILY SPECIFIC IN 24 HIGHLIGHTING OUR POWERS FOR AN UNKNOWN REASON. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST OCTOBER 27, 2011 203 1 APPROVE -- IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS IN THERE APPROVE 2 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE EDUCATION 3 CODE AND PUBLIC CONTRACT CODE I GUESS. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: THAT -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- CAPTURES IT. APPROVE 7 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO -- NO. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: "APPROVE CONSTRUCTION 9 CONTRACTS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE EDUCATION CODE AND 10 PUBLIC CONTRACT CODE." 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY, SO IT'S DOWN HERE. GOT 12 IT. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH. 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WELL, JUST A POINT OF 15 CLARIFICATION, CHANCELLOR. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THIS PARAGRAPH SPEAKS TO MORE 18 THAN JUST CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS. IT ALSO SPEAKS TO 19 CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES AND EQUIPMENT. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. I AM SORRY ABOUT 21 THAT. I LEFT IT OUT. 22 "APPROVE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS" -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- "AND CONTRACTS FOR 25 SERVICES AND EQUIPMENT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE EDUCATION OCTOBER 27, 2011 204 1 CODE AND PUBLIC CONTRACT CODE." 2 THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET ME GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS 4 ONES ABOUT HIRING AND WHATNOT. 5 WHY NOT -- HOW ABOUT IF WE JUST SAY, "DELEGATE 6 AUTHORITY IN ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS TO THE CHANCELLOR" 7 PERIOD. AND "APPROVE THE HIRING OF HIRING OR PROMOTION OF 8 SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS" PERIOD. 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: APPROVE, WHO'S -- BUT I 10 DON'T APPROVE THAT. I MEAN I DON'T APPROVE HIRING AND 11 PROMOTION. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, US, THE BOARD. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YOU GUYS DO. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY, GOOD. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO "DELEGATE" -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, I SEE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: "DELEGATE AUTHORITY IN ALL 19 ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS TO THE CHANCELLOR" PERIOD. THIS IS 20 A LIST OF WHAT THE BOARD DOES. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THEN "APPROVE THE HIRING OR 23 PROMOTION OF SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS." 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BUT IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY 25 EXCLUDE YOU FROM BEING PART OF THE HIRING PROCESS. THAT OCTOBER 27, 2011 205 1 LANGUAGE DOES NOT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. RIGHT. 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO, THEREFORE, YOU COULD 4 SAY, WELL, WE ARE -- AND I DON'T THINK -- I THINK THAT'S 5 CONTRARY TO THE AUTHORITY THAT YOU GIVING TO THE CHIEF 6 EXECUTIVE -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT DOES STATE LAW SAY? DOES 8 IT -- DOES STATE LAW (INAUDIBLE)? 9 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S -- STATE LAW IS 10 INTENT. I MEAN I CAN'T TALK ABOUT LAW, BUT MY 11 UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS THAT THE INTENTION IS THE AUTHORITY 12 GOES TO THE CHANCELLOR FOR HIRING -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- FOR BEING ON COMMITTEES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND. WHAT I 16 DON'T WANT TO PRECLUDE IS THE CHANCELLOR'S ABILITY TO 17 INVITE A BOARD MEMBER ON THE FINAL -- TO BE PART OF THE 18 FINAL INTERVIEW FOR A HIGH LEVEL EMPLOYEE WHICH HAS 19 HAPPENED. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: IT DOESN'T -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T WANT TO -- 22 TRUSTEE NGO: IT DOESN'T BECAUSE -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- ELIMINATE IT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: -- THE CHANCELLOR HAS THE 25 AUTHORITY TO INVITE YOU BACK. INVITE BOARD MEMBERS TO OCTOBER 27, 2011 206 1 HEAR THAT OUT BECAUSE WE'VE DELEGATED THE AUTHORITY TO 2 HIM. HE CAN ALWAYS, AT HIS DISCRETION, USE IT TO BRING US 3 AND -- LIKE INVOLVE US IN WHATEVER WAY HE OR SHE DEEMS 4 FIT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT? 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AGREE. SO WE WILL GO 10 WITH -- I AGREE WITH YOURS. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I MOVED IT, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN 13 SECONDED. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 16 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: DID YOU GET ALL THAT, LANI? 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I AM NOT SURE. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. SO THE LANGUAGE IS -- OKAY, 20 SO THE ONLY CHANGES ARE AT THE END OF THE POLICY IT SAYS, 21 "THIS POLICY IS NOT INTENDED TO LIMIT ANY AUTHORITY AND 22 POWERS OF THE BOARD UNDER ALL APPLICABLE LAWS." THAT'S 23 NO. 1. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN IF YOU LOOK ON THAT SAME OCTOBER 27, 2011 207 1 PAGE, THE -- LET'S START WITH THE TOP. IT SAYS, "DELEGATE 2 AUTHORITY IN ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS" -- DO YOU SEE 3 THAT? 4 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO IT SAYS, "DELEGATE 6 AUTHORITY IN ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS, INCLUDING BUT NOT 7 LIMITED TO" -- AND THEN YOU GO TO THAT LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, 8 "HIRING OR PROMOTION OF SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS" WHICH IS IN 9 THE PARAGRAPH BELOW IT. 10 DO YOU SEE IT? 11 OKAY, AND THEN YOU DELETE THE REST OF THAT 12 PARAGRAPH BEGINNING WITH "PROBLEMS AND ISSUES THAT 13 ARISE" -- ALL OF THAT IS GONE. 14 AND THEN YOU DELETE THEN THE SUBSEQUENT 15 PARAGRAPH ENTIRELY. 16 AND THEN THE THIRD PARAGRAPH BELOW IS "APPROVED 17 CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS," AND I THINK YOU GOT THAT LANGUAGE 18 BECAUSE YOU PROPOSED IT. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: "APPROVE CONSTRUCTION 20 CONTRACTS AND CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES AND EQUIPMENT IN 21 CONFORMANCE WITH THE EDUCATION CODE AND PUBLIC CONTRACT 22 CODE." 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: AND THEN "DELEGATE AUTHORITY 25 IN ALL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS TO THE CHANCELLOR, INCLUDING OCTOBER 27, 2011 208 1 BUT NOT LIMITED TO HIRING OR PROMOTION OF SPECIFIC 2 INDIVIDUALS" PERIOD. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 4 COUNSEL BATTISTE: CORRECT? 5 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEN YOU ARE DELETING EVERY -- 8 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEAH, AND I AM DELETING THAT 9 NEXT PARAGRAPH YES. OKAY, GOOD. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO THERE'S A MOTION AND 11 A SECOND FOR THAT. 12 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FOR THE AMENDMENT? 13 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT? 14 OKAY, WE WILL VOTE. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NAY, OKAY. 18 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 19 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) OCTOBER 27, 2011 209 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 OKAY, THE AMENDMENT PASSES. 3 SO LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDED S5 (SIC). 4 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- OH, I'M SORRY. 5 PUBLIC COMMENT ON S5 (SIC), AS AMENDED? 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: P5. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. P5, YES. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY FOR THE 10 (INAUDIBLE). 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 13 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE HAVE A P5. 21 P6, COUNSEL. 22 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, P6 IS TO 23 AMEND THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT POLICY 24 MANUAL BY ADDING BOARD POLICY 6550, SURPLUS PROPERTY. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: A MOTION? OCTOBER 27, 2011 210 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 4 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 5 DISCUSSION? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: A MUCH NEEDED POLICY. I WELCOME 7 IT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GOOD. 9 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 10 OKAY, TRUSTEE FANG. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: P6? 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON P6. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: P6 IS APPROVED. 23 I THINK WE NEED TO GET TO S2. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: LET'S GET TO S2. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S2 IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 211 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, SO IS S4. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S4 IS ALSO IMPORTANT, BUT I 3 THINK -- 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S DO S2 FIRST. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND THEN S4. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO S2 IS -- STUDENT TRUSTEE 10 FANG OFFERED THIS, AND I HAPPILY AGREED TO BE A 11 CO-SPONSOR. THERE HAS -- A STATE TASK FORCE ON STUDENT 12 SUCCESS THAT HAS DRAFTED A REPORT THAT MAKES 13 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAY BE TAKEN UP BY THE LEGISLATURE. 14 AND THESE ARE VERY ONEROUS RECOMMENDATIONS. 15 IF YOU READ THROUGH THEM, THEY USE THE LANGUAGE, 16 AND THEY HAVE THE SPIRIT OF A RIGHT WING GROUP CALLED, 17 ALEC, WHICH IS THE AMERICAN LEGISLATIVE -- WHAT'S THE E? 18 ENTERPRISE COMMITTEE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 19 AND IT'S ABOUT PERFORMANCE-BASED EDUCATION. 20 IT'S ABOUT PRIVATIZATION. IT'S ABOUT MAKING THE STUDENTS 21 THAT NEED OUR HELP THE MOST JUST WIPING THEM OFF. IT'S 22 WIPING OFF SENIOR CITIZENS TOO, TAKING THEM OUT OF THE 23 EDUCATION PICTURE. 24 SO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE A THREAT TO THE 25 COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. ALEC, BY THE WAY, IS AN OCTOBER 27, 2011 212 1 ORGANIZATION THAT CREATES MODEL LEGISLATION FOR STATES 2 TYPICALLY -- ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY -- NO EXCLUSIVELY 3 REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED STATES. AND THEY ARE THE GROUP THAT 4 IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SLEW OF LEGISLATION THAT IS 5 RESTRICTING VOTER RIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. THAT IS 6 RESTRICTING ABORTION. 7 AND THIS POLICY -- THIS RECOMMENDATION USE THEIR 8 LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT IT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE 9 INVOLVED, BUT IT'S VERY MUCH IN THAT LINE. SO I URGE THAT 10 WE SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. 11 I DID FORGET TO HAVE THE COUNSELOR READ THE 12 RESOLUTION AND FORGOT TO GET A MOTION AND SECOND SO -- 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I HAVE A SERIES OF 14 AMENDMENTS. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO -- 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S2 IS A 17 SPECIAL RESOLUTION. IT'S THE REJECTION OF THE CALIFORNIA 18 COMMUNITY COLLEGES TASK FORCE ON STUDENT SUCCESS DRAFT 19 REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION? 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE FANG. 23 IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. OCTOBER 27, 2011 213 1 OKAY, WE HAVE CARDS. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO CAN I ADD -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- THE AMENDMENTS OR -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, SURE WHY DON'T YOU DO 6 THAT. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS 8 I WILL START WITH MINE. 9 SO FOR THE THIRD WHEREAS, I WANTED TO PUT IN 10 "WHEREAS, WE BELIEVE THAT IF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WERE 11 TRULY INTERESTED IN STUDENT SUCCESS, IT WOULD PASS 12 PROGRESSIVE REVENUE EARMARKED FOR EDUCATION." 13 AND NOW WHAT WOULD BE THE FOURTH WHEREAS WOULD 14 BE "WHEREAS, CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO RECOGNIZES THAT 15 MUCH WORK -- THERE'S MUCH WORK THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE 16 SYSTEM WIDE TO ENSURE STUDENT SUCCESS, INCLUDING" AND THEN 17 I GOT DOT, DOT "MORE BASIC SKILLS CLASSES, ADDITIONAL 18 PROFESSIONAL TUTORS, COMMUNITY-BASED CLASSES, GREATER 19 FUNDING FOR STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES." 20 AND THAT CAN BE IN BULLET POINT FORM. 21 AND THEN THE FIFTH WHEREAS WOULD BE "WHEREAS, 22 THE MOST ALARMING PROPOSAL IS ONE WHICH WOULD TAKE AWAY 23 STUDENTS BOG WAIVERS IF THEY FALL UNDER A 2.0. THIS WOULD 24 DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT LOW INCOME STUDENTS, WORKING 25 STUDENTS, AND STUDENTS OF COLOR." OCTOBER 27, 2011 214 1 AND THEN THE LAST -- AND THEN THIS ONE IS FOR 2 THE LAST "BE IT RESOLVED." THIS IS "BE IT FURTHER 3 RESOLVED, THAT CITY COLLEGE IS HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY 4 REAL CONVERSATION TO HELP CLOSE THE STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT 5 GAP AND ENSURE OPEN ACCESS TO ALL DIVERSE COMMUNITIES." 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I BELIEVE THOSE ADDITIONS 9 ACTUALLY MAKE IT WEAKER RATHER THAN MAKING IT STRONGER. I 10 THINK IT IS A VERY POWERFUL STATEMENT AS IT IS AND GETTING 11 INTO THE DETAILS -- THAT'S WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE 12 STUDENT SUCCESS. 13 I THINK A LOT OF US START GETTING LURED INTO 14 DEALING WITH SOME OF THE SPECIFICS. THIS WHOLE THING 15 NEEDS TO BE REJECTED OUT AND OUT AT THIS POINT. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I DISAGREE. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I AM JUST SAYING -- 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO, NO. I DISAGREE 19 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY YOU REJECT THE STUDENT SUCCESS TASK 20 FORCE WITHOUT GIVING TANGIBLE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO WORK 21 FOR. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DONE THIS ENTIRE 22 PROCESS HERE AT CITY COLLEGE. AND ALTHOUGH, WE HAD A LOT 23 OF BUMPS IN THE ROAD EARLY, WE'VE ACTUALLY COME TO A POINT 24 WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY AGREEING ON A LOT OF STUFF AND 25 MOVING FORWARD LIKE ON BUILDING ADDITIONAL BASIC SKILLS OCTOBER 27, 2011 215 1 CLASSES AND IN THAT THING. 2 SO WHEN I -- A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE KIND OF SAY 3 LET'S JUST REJECT EVERYTHING. I SAY LET'S NOT JUST REJECT 4 EVERYTHING, LET'S CREATE OUR OWN NARRATIVE ON WHAT STUDENT 5 SUCCESS IS. AND I THINK THAT'S MUCH MORE POWERFUL. 6 AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PIECE IS I SEE THAT 7 THERE'S FOUR TRUSTEES. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY -- 8 I'M INTERESTED IN ACTUALLY HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT 9 WHAT REAL STUDENT SUCCESS IS NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, 10 REJECTING. 11 THIS IS TOO BASIC AND BROAD FOR ME. AND I 12 ACTUALLY WANT SPECIFICS IN THERE SAYING THAT WHAT WE 13 REALLY DON'T LIKE ABOUT THIS AND WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO 14 TO ENSURE STUDENT SUCCESS. I THINK THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY 15 POSITIVE. WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE THIS PROPOSAL. I SURE 16 DON'T LIKE THIS PROPOSAL. BUT I AM ACTUALLY -- BUT I DO 17 SUPPORT STUDENT SUCCESS. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT I 18 BELIEVE STUDENT SUCCESS WOULD CREATE. THESE ARE THINGS 19 THAT I THINK WOULD ENSURE STUDENT SUCCESS. 20 SO I AM JUST NEVER INTERESTED IN REJECTING STUFF 21 WITHOUT PROVIDING AN ALTERNATIVE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: (INAUDIBLE). 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ALL RIGHT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THERE'S A MOTION. 25 IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION? OCTOBER 27, 2011 216 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND IT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THERE'S A SECOND FOR THE 3 MOTION. 4 TRUSTEE FANG. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, I UNDERSTAND WHERE 6 YOU ARE COMING FROM, TRUSTEE JACKSON. I HAVE READ THE 7 REPORT AS WELL. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS. 8 MY CONVERSATION WITH STUDENT SENATE MEMBERS 9 STATEWIDE THEY SAY, THEY LIKE SOME. THEY DON'T LIKE 10 OTHERS. HERE'S THE DANGER WITH THAT. IF YOU HAVE -- IF 11 YOU IF YOU GET A WHOLE PLATE OF FOOD, AND YOU LIKE ONLY 12 SMALL PARTS OF IT, THE REST OF IT IS REALLY, REALLY BAD, 13 DO YOU ACTUALLY SAY, OH, I CAN KEEP THE WHOLE THING, BUT 14 ONLY EAT THE GOOD ONES? I DON'T THINK THAT WILL WORK. 15 NOW THAT'S AN ANALOGY, PLEASE LET ME FINISH, 16 OKAY. 17 NOW THE THING IS -- THE THING IS THIS -- IS THAT 18 IF WE WANT TO PROVIDE OUR OWN SOLUTION S3 WAS A RESOLUTION 19 THAT I WROTE PROVIDES THAT AS WELL. I THINK THE APPROACH 20 THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT IS REJECT THIS ENTIRE PROPOSAL. IF 21 THERE ARE THINGS WE LIKE IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE 22 READ, BRING IT BACK IN A DIFFERENT FORM IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 23 BUT WE NEED TO REJECT THIS AND PROVIDE OUR OWN 24 SOLUTION, WHICH IS KEEPING -- WHICH IS IN S3 BY THE WAY. 25 IT'S KEEPING THE MASTER PLAN AND TRY TO ACTUALLY FUND IT OCTOBER 27, 2011 217 1 OR ENSURE THAT. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IF WE ARE GOING TO 3 (INAUDIBLE) TO THE STATE, I THINK -- I DON'T FIND THERE 4 ANYTHING WRONG SAYING IF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WERE 5 TRULY INTERESTED IN STUDENT SUCCESS, IT WOULD PASS 6 PROGRESSIVE REVENUE. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS A PIECE OF 7 ENSURING STUDENT SUCCESS. YOU CANNOT -- I MEAN THE THING 8 THAT WE MAKE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IS JUST SAYING "NO." YOU 9 CAN'T JUST SAY, "NO." YOU HAVE TO REFORM THE CONVERSATION 10 AND REFRIEND THE DEBATE TO WHAT STUDENT SUCCESS IS. 11 I THINK WE STARTED THAT PROCESS HERE AT CITY 12 COLLEGE. AND NOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT CITY 13 COLLEGE HAS ALSO DONE THAT WORK IS ACTUALLY A DETRIMENT TO 14 OUR OWN CAUSE. AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE STUFF IN 15 HERE ABOUT LIKE WHAT STUDENT SUCCESS REALLY IS. AND I 16 DON'T THINK IT WEAKENS IT TO SAY THAT. 17 YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU EVEN SAID SOME STUDENTS 18 LIKE SOME STUFF THERE. SOME STUDENTS DON'T LIKE A LOT OF 19 STUFF. I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF STUFF ON THIS, BUT I THINK I 20 HAVE -- I THINK WE CAN HAVE A BETTER VISION ABOUT IT AND 21 ARTICULATE THAT AS WELL. 22 I DON'T LIKE JUST SAYING "NO" TO STUFF. I LIKE 23 SAYING, NO, THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO, I WILL 25 BE QUICK. OCTOBER 27, 2011 218 1 I WILL OFFER YOU A REAL STORY. UNICAP -- NO, 2 NOT -- REPETITION. THE REPETITION HAS BEEN CHANGED FROM 3 SEVEN TIMES TO THREE PLUS ONE NOW. AND THE CONVERSATION I 4 HAD WITH THE STUDENTS, THE SAME GROUP OF STUDENTS 5 STATEWIDE IS THAT EXACTLY AS YOU PRESENTED, TRUSTEE 6 JACKSON. I DON'T LIKE EVERYTHING, BUT CHANGE IS COMING. 7 IT BETTER BE AT THE TABLE OF DISCUSSION WHEN THE CHANGE 8 COMES SO YOU CAN SOMEHOW WORK IT AND MAKE IT BETTER. 9 WELL, THE THING IS -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: (INAUDIBLE). 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- A LOT OF THESE CHANGES 12 THAT ARE COMING THROUGH ARE STRUCTURAL. AND RECOMMENDING 13 LIMITING FUNDING OF NON-CREDIT THROUGH JUST CDCP, IF 14 OTHER -- OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN AT PLAN, YOU PAY THE FULL 15 COST. I MEAN, REALLY? 16 I DON'T REALLY THINK DENYING ACCESS AS A BASE 17 PRINCIPLE OF THIS STUDENT SUCCESS -- BY THE WAY STUDENT 18 SUCCESS IS TO FOOL YOU. 19 THE WAY I SEE IT, IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT SUCCESS. 20 IT'S ABOUT RATIONING. IT COMES FROM SCOTT LAY. HIS OWN 21 WORD. IT'S RATIONING. IT'S CENTRALIZATION. IT'S HIS OWN 22 WORD, A CONSULTATION COUNCIL LAST THURSDAY. AND WHAT HE 23 SAID IS -- THAT'S WHAT SCOTT LAY SAYS, OKAY. HE SAID, 24 WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO HAVE PLANNED RATIONING THEN 25 UNPLANNED RATIONING? THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING STATEWIDE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 219 1 DO WE REALLY WANT TO GO INTO DELVE AND TRY TO 2 ADOPT SOME OF IT AND LET THEM PLAY THAT MANEUVERING GAME 3 WITH US? I DON'T REALLY THINK SO. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: FIRST OFF, I NEVER -- 5 SCOTT LAY DOESN'T MEAN TOO MUCH TO ME. HE DOESN'T IMPACT 6 ANYTHING THAT I DO IN MY DAILY LIFE. 7 SECOND OF ALL, I NEVER SAID THAT I WANT TO -- 8 SECOND OF ALL, I NEVER SAID I WANTED DILLY DALLY IN ANY 9 PART OF THIS. I SAID, I DO REJECT IT. I JUST SAID, I 10 THINK WE CAN PRESENT A VISION OF WHAT CITY COLLEGE HAS 11 DONE AND IS PLANNING TO CONTINUE TO DO TO TRY TO INSURE 12 STUDENT SUCCESS. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, I MADE 15 AMENDMENTS. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I KNOW YOU DID, AND IT'S ON 17 THE TABLE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND WE WILL VOTE ON IT. 20 BUT CAN I SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS, 21 ONE REJECTING THAT AND ANOTHER ONE ON WHAT WE THINK IS THE 22 RIGHT PATH FORWARD. 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN -- I MAY BE 24 HONEST. S3 JUST LOOKS LIKE SOME BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE I 25 THINK TO THE STATE. I MEAN IT KIND OF TALKS HAPPY GO OCTOBER 27, 2011 220 1 LUCKY ABOUT STUFF, BUT IT NEVER REALLY GETS TO THE FACT 2 THAT STUDENTS ARE FAILING IN OUR SCHOOLS. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, S3. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN I AM NOT SAYING 5 THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, TEACHERS ARE BAD. THEY ARE 6 FAILING STUDENTS. NO TEACHERS ARE UNDER-RESOURCED. AND 7 WE ARE NOT GETTING THE REAL MONEY INTO THE SCHOOLS. 8 WHAT I AM SAYING IS S3 KIND OF JUST TALKS HAPPY 9 GO LUCKY LIKE WE ARE CONTINUING TO -- NO, WE ARE NOT. 10 THERE ARE BLACK AND BROWN STUDENTS WHO ARE FAILING IN OUR 11 INSTITUTIONS. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. COULD -- 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND SO WE NEED TO GET 14 TO THAT POINT AND TALK ABOUT IT. AND I AM SORRY, BUT LIKE 15 I THINK WE SHOULD BE INCLUDING SOME OF THIS STUFF ON A -- 16 IN A REAL WAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD WE ADD YOUR AMENDMENTS 18 TO S3 BECAUSE I THINK THE CONCERN IS TO HAVE A CLEAR 19 CONCISE STATEMENT CONDEMNING THE RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH ARE 20 PRETTY RADICAL. IT'S PRETTY RADICAL STUFF BELIEVE ME. 21 AND THEN PUT, YOU KNOW, OUR VISION OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE 22 INTO S3 AND JUST KEEP THEM SEPARATE. 23 NO, HUH? 24 THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THIS IS -- 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN I KNOW THERE'S A OCTOBER 27, 2011 221 1 LOT OF FOLKS IN THE ROOM THAT WANT TO SEE THIS PASS. BUT 2 I'M LIKE, I MEAN SERIOUSLY, LIKE JUST TO SAY "NO" TO 3 SOMETHING AND NOT ADD SOMETHING TO DO IT, LIKE, THAT'S -- 4 I'M SORRY. BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME TO JUST SAY "NO." I 5 MEAN, NO, I AM NOT GOING TO JUST SAY "NO." 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO GO TO PUBLIC 7 COMMENT OR -- 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: GO AHEAD. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE KIND OF 10 GOING IN CIRCLES. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I HAVE A LOT OF CARDS HERE. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: BEFORE YOU GO TO -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 15 TRUSTEE -- 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- PUBLIC COMMENT. I JUST 17 WANTED TO ASK -- 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S ON THE AMENDMENT. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- TRUSTEE JACKSON A QUESTION. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YES. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND THE QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH 22 WHEN YOU WERE READING YOUR STATEMENTS AND YOUR EXAMPLES, 23 IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU HAVE LOOKED AT PARAGRAPH 1 WHEREAS 24 AND TWO AND THREE, AND DID YOU SEE A WAY TO INSERT THE 25 EXAMPLE IN EACH AREA? OCTOBER 27, 2011 222 1 AND THEN I THINK YOU HAD SUGGESTED CREATING A 2 NEW WHEREAS. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: UH-HUH. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: IS THAT CORRECT? 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, I HAVE ONE, TWO, 6 THREE NEW WHEREASES AND THEN A LET IT FURTHER BE RESOLVED. 7 YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO -- I MEAN I CAN FIT THESE 8 INTO -- BUT IT'S STILL AN AMENDMENT. SO I CAN FIT THESE 9 INTO THE EXISTING WHEREASES. I'M HAPPY TO FIND A PLACE 10 FOR IT TO FIT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S -- I JUST THINK 11 JUST SAYING "NO" IS JUST KIND OF -- IT DOESN'T GIVE US AN 12 OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT STUDENT SUCCESS IS. SO I 13 AM HAPPY TO ADD THEM INTO THE EXISTING WHEREASES AND NOT 14 ADD ANY WHEREASES. 15 BUT I THINK -- I DON'T THINK WHAT THERE -- I 16 DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT TRUSTEE FANG IS ASKING. I THINK 17 HE JUST WANTS A -- I MEAN I WANT TO WORK ON THIS ACTUALLY. 18 I WAS BASICALLY TOLD THAT I ALREADY HAVE A RESOLUTION ON 19 THE TABLE. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN ADDING ANYTHING TO IT. 20 THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO DO AMENDMENTS BECAUSE I WAS TOLD 21 THAT. 22 AND, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE -- I'M NOT GOING TO 23 REALLY STEP INTO YOUR OWN RESOLUTION. I WOULDN'T WANT 24 SOMEONE DOING THAT TO ME, SO I DECIDED TO COME WITH 25 AMENDMENTS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 223 1 AND SO, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK 2 TRUSTEE FANG IS GOING TO ACCEPT THEM AS FRIENDLY 3 AMENDMENTS, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT NO 4 MATTER WHAT. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION. I REALLY 5 APPRECIATE IT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHY DON'T WE GO TO PUBLIC 7 COMMENT. I WILL CALL THESE CARDS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 8 THE AMENDMENT. YOU CAN SPEAK ON THE AMENDMENT. I THINK 9 THE AMENDMENT -- YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE TASK 10 FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO 11 BECAUSE IT'S ALL TIED TOGETHER. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK 12 AGAIN ON THE MAIN MOTION, YOU WON'T HAVE TO FILL OUT 13 ANOTHER CARD JUST COME UP. 14 MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: YOU ARE OUT OF CARDS 15 ANYWAY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, WE ARE OUT OF CARDS, 17 WELL, THEN THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. 18 KAREN SAGINOR. 19 MS. SAGINOR: SPEAKING ON THE AMENDMENT, WE ARE 20 GOING TO BE GOING TO STATE PLENARY NEXT WEEK. I WOULD 21 LIKE FOR US TO GO WITH A REALLY STRONG STATEMENT. THIS 22 SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS IS PRETENDING TO BE PROGRESSIVE, 23 BUT ACTUALLY IT'S VERY REGRESSIVE. I THINK WE NEED TO 24 MAKE A VERY STRONG STATEMENT ABOUT THAT. AND I WILL BE 25 VERY DISAPPOINTED IF THE BOARD OF THE SAN FRANCISCO OCTOBER 27, 2011 224 1 COMMUNITY COLLEGE CAN'T DO THAT. THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CAN I ASK A POINT OF 4 INFORMATION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? LIKE, CAN'T DO IT -- 5 LIKE, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY STATED I'M AGAINST THE 6 RECOMMENDATIONS. I JUST WANT TO ADD SOME STUFF TO TALK 7 ABOUT LIKE WHAT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE. AND SAYING "NO" 8 KIND OF DOESN'T SOUND VERY STRONG. IT KIND OF JUST 9 SOUNDS, YOU KNOW, STRONG AND WRONG IS STILL WRONG. YOU 10 NEED TO ADD -- I MEAN I BELIEVE IT MAKES IT STRONGER BY 11 TALKING ABOUT WHAT REAL STUDENT SUCCESS IS. AND THESE ARE 12 THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT. 13 WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS. 14 THESE ARE HALF THE STUFF THAT MY RESOLUTIONS TALKS ABOUT 15 IS STUFF THAT WE PLANNED ON PUTTING AT THE SOUTHEAST 16 CAMPUS. AND LORD KNOWS THOSE STUDENTS NEED STUDENT 17 SUCCESS. AND SO I MEAN WE ALL AGREE ON THIS STUFF. WE 18 AGREE ON PROGRESSIVE REVENUE THAT ENSURES STUDENT SUCCESS. 19 WE AGREE THAT SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND MORE CLASSES. WE 20 AGREE THAT LEADS TO STUDENT SUCCESS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND 21 WHY THAT CAN'T BE PUT IN A RESOLUTION REJECTING A VERY 22 DRACONIAN STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND 23 THAT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER? 25 MS. SAGINOR: IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU AS TO OCTOBER 27, 2011 225 1 WHETHER YOU WANT ME TO ENGAGE IN -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE ASKED YOU A QUESTION SO -- 3 MS. SAGINOR: I BELIEVE THAT THE STRONG 4 STATEMENT IN THIS CASE IS TO BASICALLY KEEP IT BRIEF AND 5 TO THE POINT AND SAY, WE ARE REJECTING WHAT YOU ARE DOING. 6 THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO ARE GREAT THINGS. I DON'T THINK 7 THEY FIT IN THIS RESOLUTION. THAT'S MY ANSWER. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: BUT IF WE ARE NOT GOING 9 TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION -- I MEAN THIS OPENS UP THE 10 CONVERSATION TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS. 11 SO IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY 12 TALK ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS, LIKE THIS IS A GREAT 13 OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING THE 14 CONVERSATION. WE REJECT THAT. THIS IS WHAT STUDENT 15 SUCCESS IS. AND IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE 16 OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO 17 TALK ABOUT REAL STUDENT SUCCESS. 18 MS. SAGINOR: I THINK I SEE YOUR POINT. 19 BUT I DON'T SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD 20 ACTUALLY STRENGTHEN THE STATEMENT WE WANT TO MAKE AT THIS 21 TIME. AND I AM AFRAID -- I DON'T WANT US TO JUST KEEP 22 GOING BACK AND FORTH -- 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THAT'S FINE. 24 MS. SAGINOR: -- ON THIS. THANK YOU. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THANK YOU FOR CLARITY. OCTOBER 27, 2011 226 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FRED TETI. 2 MR. TETI: FRED TETI, FIRST VICE PRESIDENT 3 ACADEMIC SENATE. 4 TWO THINGS, FIRST, EVER SINCE I WAS HIRED 17 5 YEARS AGO AT THIS SCHOOL, ALMOST EVERY CONVERSATION I HAVE 6 HAD WITH MY COWORKERS HAS BEEN ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS. 7 BY SAYING THAT WE ARE ONLY JUST TRYING TO START 8 A CONVERSATION -- YOU ARE BUYING INTO THE LIES THAT ARE IN 9 THAT RECOMMENDATION DOCUMENT. YOU ARE SIMPLY FEEDING THE 10 FLAMES. PLEASE DO NOT SAY THAT. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING 11 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS FOREVER AT THIS 12 INSTITUTION AND ACROSS THE STATE. 13 SECONDLY, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE SIMPLER 14 STATEMENT IS THE STRONGER ONE. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN 15 SENDING -- AT LEAST THAT IS MY PERCEPTION. I BELIEVE THAT 16 PERCEPTION WILL BE SHARED BY MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO READ 17 THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU PASSED TONIGHT. SO I URGE YOU TO 18 KEEP THE RESOLUTION IN ITS ORIGINAL SIMPLER FORM. THANK 19 YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MADELINE MUELLER. 21 MS. MUELLER: NOT ABSOLUTELY DIRECTLY ON THIS, 22 BUT I WANTED TO SHARE A LETTER THAT MAYBE -- WELL, YOU 23 HAVEN'T READ IT BECAUSE IT WAS SENT TO THE EDITOR OF THE 24 CHRONICLE WITH THAT RATHER BAD HEADLINE STUFF THAT WENT ON 25 A WEEK AGO ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WE COST THE TAXPAYERS SO OCTOBER 27, 2011 227 1 MUCH MONEY, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 2 I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LETTER THAT DR. WOOD 3 MASSI WROTE THAT WENT OUT ON THE FACULTY. SOME OF YOU MAY 4 HAVE SEEN IT, WHERE HE ALSO DRILLED DOWN AS TO THE GROUP 5 THAT PUT OUT THE STATISTICS. AND THEY TOO ARE ULTRA RIGHT 6 WING GROUP. SO IT'S A BIT OF A PLOT. AND I TRIED SENDING 7 AN E-MAIL TO SCOTT LAY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S A KIND OF 8 DEJA VU ALL OVER. 9 AFTER PROP 13 WHEN WE BECAME A STATE SYSTEM -- 10 ALTHOUGH AT THE TIME THE BOARD SAYS, WE ARE NOT A SYSTEM. 11 WE ARE KIND OF A GROUP BECAUSE COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE 12 LOCAL AT THEIR CORE. 13 AND I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW IN THIS 14 CONVERSATION, AND TO BE AS STRONG AS POSSIBLE AT THIS 15 POINT IN TIME AS I MENTIONED ON MY LETTER TO MR. LAY, 16 THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT AFTER PROP 13 TO HIGHLY CENTRALIZE 17 THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND IN FACT TO DO AWAY WITH LOCAL 18 BOARDS. AND I DO SEE THIS AS DEJA VU ALL OVER. I MEAN 19 I'VE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT. I'VE BEEN HERE 46 YEARS. I 20 KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW, EXCEPT WE ARE ALSO HAVING THE 21 COKE BROTHERS SUPPORTING IT. BUT IT IS THE DEATH NOTE OF 22 LOCAL BOARDS. 23 SO I THINK WE ALL HAVE AN INTEREST, AND YOU TOO, 24 TO MAKE AS STRONG A STATEMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME AS WE 25 CAN. AND I WILL GIVE YOU THIS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 228 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS INGRID WYNN STILL HERE? 2 MS. WYNN: YES. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, THERE YOU ARE. 4 MS. WYNN: HI, MY NAME IS INGRID WYNN AGAIN. 5 AS FAR AS STUDENT SUCCESS, WHAT I SEE AS STUDENT 6 SUCCESS IS ACTUALLY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE COMING 7 OUT OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE WITH DEGREES OR CERTIFICATES IN A 8 FIELD THAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS IDEAS AND GOALS THAT WE 9 ARE WORKING TO. 10 WHAT I SEE FROM A STUDENT STANDPOINT AS STUDENT 11 SUCCESS IS TO SAY THAT NOT ONLY AM I COMING FROM A 12 COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BUT IT'S ALSO SERVING THE COMMUNITY 13 NEEDS. 14 I CHOOSE NOT TO LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD AND 15 SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO BE CONTROLLED OR JUNIOR COLLEGE. I 16 LOOK AT SUCCESS AS SAYING SOMETHING THAT IS AN 17 ACCOMPLISHMENT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE 18 LOOK AT, ESPECIALLY THIS EVENING WITH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF 19 OUR CAMPUSES BEING ACTUALLY REARED. WHERE IT'S NEVER BEEN 20 TAKEN TO A POINT OF SERIOUSNESS WHERE WE DO NEED A LOT OF 21 STUDENT SERVICES, STUDENT SUPPORT. 22 SO WHEN I SEE STUDENT SUCCESS, AND THIS IS JUST 23 TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ON WHAT IS STUDENT SUCCESS OF WHAT 24 I SEE, THE SUCCESS I SEE IS TO SAY WE DO HAVE SERVICES TO 25 HELP WITH THOSE NEEDS. THAT INCLUDES COUNSELORS THAT ARE OCTOBER 27, 2011 229 1 WILLING TO GIVE YOU A CAREER PATH MOVING FORWARD, SAYING 2 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOREVER, 3 BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET UP OUT OF HERE. SO 4 THAT'S WHAT I SEE AS FAR AS STUDENT SUCCESS. 5 WHEN I LOOK AT THE TASK FORCE, I LOOK AT THE 6 FACT THAT IF WE ARE WILLING TO SUCCEED AND WE ARE WILLING 7 TO MAINTAIN WHO WE ARE AS OUR IDENTITY IN THE COMMUNITY, 8 ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DO SERVICE ALL OF THE CAMPUSES 9 THROUGHOUT SAN FRANCISCO, WHICH THERE IS 11 OF THEM, I 10 FEEL IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT 11 IDENTITY ASK SAY, YES, WE ARE A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. NO, WE 12 WILL NOT ACCEPT SOME OF THE DOWNFALLS WITH LOOKING AT 13 TRYING TO TAKE THAT AWAY OR OUR IDENTITY OF WHO WE ARE. 14 AND DO WE GO TO S3, AS WELL? COULD WE DO BOTH? 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, WE ARE NOT ON S3. 16 MS. WYNN: -- OR ARE WE JUST SAYING, "YES" AND 17 "NO" AND -- 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NOT YET. 19 MS. WYNN: OH, OKAY. WELL, SINCE WE HAVE NO 20 MORE CARDS. I JUST WANTED TO HURRY UP AND GET THEM ALL 21 OVER WITH. 22 THE STUDENT SUCCESS THIS IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT 23 AS FAR AS STUDENT SUCCESS. NOW WHEN I SAY, THE REJECTION, 24 I'M LOOKING AT SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY AND HOWEVER THAT 25 MEANS WE SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT TAKING IN A TASK OCTOBER 27, 2011 230 1 FORCE THAT DOESN'T GIVE US WHAT WE NEED TO GROW. SO 2 THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 4 JOE FITZGERALD. 5 MR. FITZGERALD: I GUESS A LOT OF YOU KNOW ME, 6 BUT NOT ALL OF YOU KNOW ME. I AM THE EDITOR OVER AT THE 7 GUARDSMAN RIGHT NOW. AND BEING AT THE GUARDSMAN, I HAVE A 8 MEDIA EYE -- KEEPING AN EYE ON THE CHRONICLE A BIT ON 9 BEHALF OF US. SO I AM GUESSING WE ALL SAW THAT ARTICLE 10 THEN, RIGHT? 11 ARE YOU GUYS FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPT OF PRESS 12 RELEASE JOURNALISM? 13 OKAY, SO THEY TAKE A PRESS RELEASE, AND THEY 14 MAINLY WRITE THE ARTICLE FROM THE PRESS RELEASE, LAZY 15 JOURNALISM. THEY DIDN'T CONTACT -- DID THEY CONTACT ANY 16 OF YOU GUYS FOR -- 17 SO I'M KIND OF WONDERING AND KIND OF WANT TO PUT 18 IT OUT THERE WHY WE AREN'T IN MORE CONTACT WITH 19 JOURNALISTS FROM SAY THE CHRONICLE OR THE SACRAMENTO BEE 20 BECAUSE I REALLY HATE -- I'M TAKING OFF MY OBJECTIVE 21 JOURNALISM HAT. I REALLY HATE WATCHING US GET PUMMELED IN 22 THE CHRONICLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ALL ACTUALLY DO CARE 23 ABOUT EDUCATION, AND WE CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE 24 STUDENTS, AND I KNOW WE ALL CARE. 25 IT'S REALLY -- IT JUST SADDENS ME TO SEE US GET OCTOBER 27, 2011 231 1 PUMMELED LIKE THAT PUBLICLY ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE 2 CHRONICLE WITH A LAZY PIECE OF JOURNALISM THAT REALLY 3 DIDN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS AND JUST REWROTE A PRESS RELEASE 4 SHE GOT IN AN E-MAIL WHICH IS JUST FRICKEN RIDICULOUS. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CALL AND ASK (INAUDIBLE). 6 MR. FITZGERALD: I DID. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, YOU DID. 8 MR. FITZGERALD: I DID. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU CONTACTED THE REPORTER? 10 MR. FITZGERALD: I CONTACTED HER. AND I SAID, 11 WHY DID YOU DO THAT? I GAVE HER A LIST OF NAMES. I GAVE 12 HER A LIST OF NUMBERS TO CALL. AND I GAVE HER A LIST OF 13 THINGS THAT HAPPENED AT THIS BOARD SO THAT SHE COULD BE UP 14 ON IT. 15 BUT ALSO JUST LIKE HERE, WITH EDUCATION HERE 16 RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO DO THIS AND THAT AND THIS AND 17 THAT, BUT OUR RESOURCES ARE STRICT. SAME WITH THE 18 CHRONICLE. THEY ARE GETTING CUT LEFT AND RIGHT. SO MAYBE 19 THAT LAZY JOURNALISM IS ALSO A MATTER OF THEIR MONEY BEING 20 CUT. SO THAT BEING A FACT OF LIFE, WE MAY HAVE TO BE MORE 21 PROACTIVE IN CONTACTING THEM. 22 NOW IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HAVE 23 PR, AND I THINK THE LAST TIME I CALLED UP YOUR PUBLIC 24 RELATIONS, I FOUND THAT YOU HAD HADN'T HAD A NEW PERSON 25 REPLACED, LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO LET ATTRITION HAPPEN. I OCTOBER 27, 2011 232 1 DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CHANGED. BUT IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE 2 THE RESOURCES, USE US. WE ARE HERE. WE ARE TRAINED ON 3 HOW TO WRITE. WE ARE TRAINED ON HOW TO RESEARCH. WE KNOW 4 WHAT WE ARE DOING. 5 LIKE YOU GUYS WERE SAYING EARLIER WITH CREATIVE 6 RESOURCES, WHY NOT USE US TO BE IN CONTACT WITH THE SAC 7 BEE, BE IN CONTACT WITH THE CHRONICLE, INFORM THEM OF 8 WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE COLLEGE SO THAT THEY CAN WRITE 9 SOME DAMN POSITIVE THINGS THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOD DAMN 10 DOING. PARDON MY LANGUAGE. YOU KNOW? 11 AND THEN WE COULD GET THEM TO KNOW AND WRITE THE 12 REAL STORY AND RESPOND BEFORE THEY WRITE SUCH LAZY PIECES 13 OF WHATEVER. MY SUGGESTION, CONTACT US. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I APPRECIATE THAT. 15 MR. FITZGERALD: THANK YOU. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: KATIE GELARDI. 17 MS. GELARDI: HI, I'M KATIE GELARDI, AGAIN, 18 HELLO. 19 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS 20 RESOLUTION IS VERY DIRECT AND TO THE POINT. AND IT STATES 21 WHAT NEEDS TO BE STATED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE 22 FACT THAT IT TALKS ABOUT ALL ADULT POPULATION. IF YOU ARE 23 GOING TO NIT PICK IT DEATH, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO ARE 24 LESS OFF. 25 FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE AMENDMENT, PERHAPS IT WAS MY OCTOBER 27, 2011 233 1 SELECTIVE HEARING, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY MENTION OF 2 SENIORS AND LIFELONG LEARNERS. 3 I BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS GOOD AND 4 TRUE AND HAS THE STRENGTH THAT IS NEEDED AT THIS TIME. 5 MORE VERBIAGE AND THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. I SUGGEST 6 THAT YOU LEAVE IT AS IT IS. THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE STUDENT -- THE TASK 9 FORCE FOR STUDENT SUCCESS REPORT IS NOT ABOUT STUDENT 10 SUCCESS. 11 MS. GELARDI: NO, IT ISN'T. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT IS NOT ABOUT STUDENT 13 SUCCESS. IT IS ABOUT CHANGING THE NATURE OF PUBLIC 14 EDUCATION. THIS IS A RIGHT WING ATTACK ON PUBLIC 15 EDUCATION ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT IS HAPPENING NATIONWIDE. 16 IT IS NOT ABOUT STUDENT SUCCESS. 17 STUDENT SUCCESS IS THE -- IS HOW THEY ARE 18 COUCHING IT. 19 MS. GELARDI: EXCUSE ME. YOU ARE -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 22 MS. GELARDI: I BEG YOUR PARDON. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SORRY. 24 MS. GELARDI: BUT YOU ARE RIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. OCTOBER 27, 2011 234 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND, JOHN, I SWEAR TO 2 GOD I GET THAT. THAT'S WHY I'M OFFERING THE AMENDMENTS TO 3 SAY WHAT WE BELIEVE STUDENT SUCCESS IS. I MEAN I AT LEAST 4 WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WORK THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT, TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOU ARE 6 ONLY FOCUSSING ON THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY ARE FOCUSSING 7 ON. 8 FOR INSTANCE, SENIOR CITIZENS, OUR SOUTHEAST 9 CAMPUS SEWING CLASS, THEY WOULD BE CHARGED THE FULL FEE 10 BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FIRST-YEAR STUDENTS ACCORDING TO THIS 11 PLAN, YOU KNOW. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I HAVE -- DID -- MAYBE 13 YOU KNOW WE ARE IN WEIRD LAND. DID I SAY THAT I ACCEPTED 14 THAT -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I DON'T KNOW. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- THIS ENTIRE REPORT. 17 I SWEAR I SAID THAT THIS REPORT IS BAD. I DON'T SUPPORT 18 THIS REPORT OR ANY PART OF THIS REPORT. I JUST WANT TO 19 HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING AS AN 20 EXAMPLE OF WHAT REAL STUDENT SUCCESS IS, ESPECIALLY 21 AROUND, YOU KNOW -- ESPECIALLY AROUND TALKING ABOUT 22 PROGRESSIVE REVENUE FOR OUR COLLEGE AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 23 INCREASING BASIC SKILLS CLASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 24 THAT'S ALL I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE WORK THAT WE ARE 25 DOING AND THE WORK THAT WE WANT TO DO AND WHAT STUDENT OCTOBER 27, 2011 235 1 SUCCESS REALLY IS. 2 I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT IS NOT STUDENT SUCCESS 3 TASK FORCE. THAT'S WHY I CLEARLY SAID, I DON'T SUPPORT 4 THE TASK FORCE. I AM NOT BEING FOOLED. I SAID, I DON'T 5 SUPPORT THE TASK FORCE REPORT. ALL I AM SAYING IS LET'S 6 PROVIDE A REAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT STUDENT SUCCESS IS IN THE 7 RESOLUTION. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: BUT -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I AM GOING TO TRY -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I WANT TO MAKE SURE PUBLIC COMMENT 13 IS CLOSED. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, IS PUBLIC -- IS THERE ANY 15 FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT? 16 OKAY, NO. WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE 17 AMENDMENT. 18 MS. GELARDI: CAN I ASK YOU -- 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO WHAT I CONSIDER THE 20 CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE TASK FORCE ON STUDENT FAILURE 21 WHICH IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE ENTITLED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT 22 THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY. THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY, COMMUNITY 23 COLLEGES HAVE FAILED IN CALIFORNIA. 24 IF THIS WERE ENTITLED, CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY 25 COLLEGE TASK FORCE ON STUDENT FAILURE, WHICH IS THE REAL OCTOBER 27, 2011 236 1 MEANING FOR IT, WE WOULD NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH IT AND TRY 2 TO DO CERTAIN KINDS OF AMENDMENTS ON IT. THIS IS CALLED 3 THE BIG LIE. SOME OF YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER THE 4 BIG LIE, BUT IT WAS A BIG LIE. YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT'S 5 NOT TRUE. YOU SAY IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND 6 PEOPLE BEGIN TO SWALLOW IT. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 7 TRUSTEE JACKSON'S STATEMENT. THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHAT 8 THEY ARE ABOUT, WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO AS FAR AS CITY 9 COLLEGE IS CONCERNED AND THE OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 10 IF THESE GUYS HAVE THEIR WAY, WE WILL NO LONGER 11 EXIST THE WAY THAT WE HAVE CHERISHED OURSELVES IN TERMS OF 12 EXISTENCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT. THEY ARE 13 ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT TAKING OVER THE VEHICLE OF 14 COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND TURNING IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE. 15 IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS TO ME -- TAKING A POSITIVE 16 THING -- IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS TO ME WHEN I HEARD BUSH 17 TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND THEN I 18 HEARD OBAMA TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES, 19 AND I WENT OH, MY GOD, COMMUNITY COLLEGES VALUE HAS BEEN 20 DISCOVERED AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEY ARE HIKING FEES ON 21 THE STATE COLLEGES AND THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS. AND SO 22 WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IS THEY ARE GOING TO PUSH OUT 23 ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE CARE ABOUT SO MUCH IN TERMS OF THIS 24 SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY ARE 25 BASICALLY TRYING TO PUSH OUT POOR PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF COLOR, OCTOBER 27, 2011 237 1 PEOPLE THAT CANNOT AFFORD TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT FOR 2 THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 3 AND SO WHEN THESE GUYS GOT TOGETHER, THEY 4 WEREN'T EVEN PRETTY -- THEY WERE NOT EVEN TRYING TO HIDE 5 THAT FACT. THEY BASICALLY ARE SAYING TO US IN SO MANY 6 WAYS, WE ARE GOING TO CENTRALIZE THIS. WE ARE GOING TO 7 DOWNSIZE IT. WE ARE GOING TO GET RID OF NON-CREDIT. WE 8 ARE GOING TO GET RID OF YOUR CAREER TECH STUFF. WE ARE 9 GOING TO GO BACKWARDS TO -- THIS IS A TWO-YEAR COLLEGE. 10 WE WANT ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO COULD GET THROUGH HERE IN A 11 HURRY. AND IF YOU DON'T GET THROUGH IN A HURRY, YOU ARE 12 GONE. SO I KNOW YOU ALL ACCEPT THIS. 13 THE PROBLEM IS THE TACTIC. ARE WE GOING TO 14 FIGHT THEM BY TRYING TO PIECEMEAL THIS OR ARE WE GOING TO 15 FIGHT THEM BY A "NO?" 16 AND I BELIEVE THAT IF IT WAS COMMUNITY COLLEGES 17 TASK FORCE ON STUDENT FAILURE, WHAT WE WOULD SAY 18 ABSOLUTELY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY PART OF IT. 19 AND I REALLY THINK IT'S REALLY TOO IMPORTANT FOR 20 US TO GET OURSELVES SPLINTERED BECAUSE THIS IS AN ARGUMENT 21 AMONG FRIENDS WHO AGREE WITH ALL THE SAME THINGS. 22 EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD AGREES WITH ALL THE SAME THINGS. 23 IT'S ABOUT THE TACTIC. WHAT IS THE BEST TACTIC TO FIGHT 24 THIS? 25 WE HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF THE STATE OF OCTOBER 27, 2011 238 1 CALIFORNIA IN A LEADERSHIP ROLE. AND WE HAVE TO TAKE A 2 HARD STAND BECAUSE EVERYBODY AROUND THE STATE IS WATCHING 3 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO AND SAYING, WHAT IS YOUR 4 STANCE GOING TO BE? 5 IF OUR STANCE COMES OUT TO BE SOME OF THIS STUFF 6 IS GOOD AND SOME OF THIS STUFF IS BAD, AND WE WILL SWALLOW 7 THE WHOLE CAKE IN THE PROCESS, WE ARE GOING TO GET VERY 8 SICK BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF IS GOING TO COME DOWN 9 PRETTY QUICKLY, INCLUDING NOT HAVING LOCAL BOARDS, 10 INCLUDING MANDATED TESTING THAT'S CENTRALIZED FOR 11 EVERYBODY IN THE STATE, INCLUDING A DOZEN OF 25 -- 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JOHN. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- OTHER THINGS THAT ARE 14 TOTALLY UNHEALTHY FOR THE COLLEGE AND FOR THE STATE 15 COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. 16 THE MASTER PLAN IN 1960 MANDATED IN THE MASTER 17 PLAN THAT THE TOP 8 PERCENT OR SO WOULD GO TO UC SYSTEMS. 18 THE NEXT 25, 30 PERCENT WOULD GO TO THE UC'S AND ALL THE 19 REST WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES. NOW THEY'VE 20 DECIDED WE DON'T WANT ALL THE REST GOING TO COMMUNITY 21 COLLEGES. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. 22 CLOSING THE DOOR ON EDUCATION FOR THE MOST NEEDY PART OF 23 OUR COMMUNITIES. 24 NOW WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? THE POINT IS I THINK 25 WE'VE GOT TO SLAM -- AT FIRST WE'VE GOT TO SLAM AND SAY OCTOBER 27, 2011 239 1 "NO" RATHER THAN SAYING -- AND THEN LATER ON IF WE WANT TO 2 TALK ABOUT NEGOTIATING SOMETHING ONCE WE HAVE SOME PLACE 3 OF STRENGTH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT IF WE COME IN 4 FIRST AND SAYING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO LOOK AT THIS 5 ELEMENT OR THAT ELEMENT, IN MY OPINION IT STRONGLY WEAKENS 6 OUR POSITION. AND WE ARE IN DANGER AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 7 FRANCISCO. 8 OUR NON-CREDIT PROGRAM IS IN DANGER. I AM NOT 9 JOKING ABOUT THIS. I AM TALKING ABOUT OUR CTE PROGRAMS. 10 THEY ARE IN DANGER HERE AT CITY COLLEGE. I AM NOT TRYING 11 TO WAVE THE RED FLAG. I WOULD NOT -- I AM AN OPTIMISTIC 12 PERSON. I WOULD NEVER SAY TO YOU THAT WE WERE IN DANGER 13 IF I DON'T THINK WE WERE IN DANGER. 14 THIS PROPOSITION IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS AND 15 WHEN YOU GET JACK SCOTT AND YOU GET SCOTT LAY AND YOU GET 16 THOSE PEOPLE COMING THE WAY THEY ARE COMING, IT'S NOT VERY 17 HELPFUL AT ALL. 18 SO I AM JUST HOPING THAT WE COULD SEND A UNIFIED 19 SINGLE "NO" MESSAGE AND THEN LATER ON WE CAN FOLLOW-UP 20 WITH OTHER THINGS AS THIS UNFOLDS. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 21 TO STOP THE MAIN ONSLAUGHT WHICH I THINK IS COMING AT US 22 AT A FURIOUS PACE. AND THEY ARE NOT GIVING -- THEY ARE 23 NOT COMING IN AND SAYING TO US WELL, YOU GUYS ARE DOING 24 SOME THINGS REALLY WELL AND SOME THINGS NOT SO WELL. THEY 25 ARE BASICALLY SAYING TO YOU, THE HELL AWAY WITH COMMUNITY OCTOBER 27, 2011 240 1 COLLEGES. WE WANT YOU SHRUNK. AND WE WANT YOU TO KICK 2 PEOPLE OUT. AND WE DON'T WANT THE KIND OF EDUCATION THAT 3 YOU ARE PROVIDING. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. 4 WE BELIEVE IN THE KIND OF EDUCATION THAT WE ARE 5 PROVIDING BECAUSE IT'S COMMUNITY. THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION 6 THAT WE HAD TONIGHT FROM SOUTHEAST WAS A GREAT 7 CONVERSATION. AND IT ILLUSTRATES WHAT THEY WANT TO GET 8 RID OF. ALL OF THAT WOULD BE GONE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S RIGHT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AND 11 THEN MOVE ONTO THE VOTE? 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN I HAVE TO KIND 13 OF SET THIS RECORD STRAIGHT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: FIRST OF ALL, IF WE ALL 16 HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, THE STUDENTS SUCCESS TASK FORCE 17 RECOMMENDATIONS OUT, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE FIND WHERE THEY 18 TALKED ABOUT RAISING PROGRESSIVE REVENUE BECAUSE YOU ARE 19 SAYING I AM PIECEMEALING STUFF. I MEAN I WANT TO FIND 20 WHERE I PIECEMEALED SOME -- WHERE I TOOK SOMETHING OUT OF 21 THAT REPORT. I'VE REJECTED THAT REPORT. I AM SAYING I 22 WANT TO FIND WHERE IT SAID, WE SHOULD RAISE PROGRESSIVE 23 REVENUE. 24 I ALSO WANT TO FIND IN THE REPORT WHERE IT SAYS 25 THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, BE FUNDING MORE BASIC SKILLS, OCTOBER 27, 2011 241 1 ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL TUTORS, COMMUNITY-BASED CLASSES. 2 I WANT TO FIND IN THAT REPORT WHERE IT SAYS THAT BECAUSE I 3 AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING PIECEMEAL OUT OF THAT REPORT. I'VE 4 REJECTED THAT REPORT. 5 AND I TAKE OFFENSE TO ANYBODY SAYING THAT I AM 6 ACTUALLY TRYING TO TAKE SOME OF THE REPORT AND LEAVE SOME 7 OF IT. TRUSTEE FANG SAID IT. AND NOW THE CHANCELLOR HAS 8 SAID THAT. I AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING OUT OF THIS REPORT. 9 I AM SAYING THESE ARE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE LEAD TO 10 STUDENT SUCCESS AND NONE OF THAT STUFF IS FOUND IN THAT 11 REPORT. 12 THEY HAVE NOT -- AND I ACTUALLY SAID, WE ARE 13 HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT REAL STUDENT SUCCESS IN CLOSING THE 14 ACHIEVEMENT GAP, EVEN AT THE END OF IT. AND SO I'VE NOT 15 SAID ANYTHING WITH -- I HAVE NOT EVEN REFERENCED THAT 16 REPORT WHEN I AM MAKING MY AMENDMENTS. NONE OF THESE 17 AMENDMENTS ARE LOCATED IN THAT STUDENT SUCCESS TASK FORCE, 18 NONE OF THEM. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THAT'S 20 THE PROBLEM. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHAT I AM SAYING IS 22 PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PRESENT THE NARRATIVE THAT I AM 23 TRYING TO TAKE SOME OF IT AND LEAVE SOME OF IT OUT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. NO. I DON'T THINK -- 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT OCTOBER 27, 2011 242 1 PEOPLE HAVE SAID. AND I TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF OFFENSE TO 2 IT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LOOK. I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS 6 SAYING THAT YOU DON'T OPPOSE THIS -- 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I PIECEMEALED IT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AS STRONGLY AS ANYONE ELSE. 9 WELL, I MEAN LOOK, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I DON'T BELIEVE IT EITHER. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK THE CHANCELLOR 12 BELIEVES IT. I WILL SAY, YOU BELIEVE -- I AM POSITIVE 13 THAT YOU FEEL AS STRONGLY ABOUT THIS AS ANYONE ELSE IN 14 THIS ROOM MORE SO PERHAPS. 15 I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TACTICS. 16 THIS -- THEY ARE USING THE WORDS "STUDENT SUCCESS" THE WAY 17 THE REPUBLICANS USED THE DEFICIT, OKAY. 18 WE HAD -- TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD THE ECONOMIC 19 CRISIS, RIGHT. AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT BANK BAILOUTS AND 20 UNEMPLOYMENT DOVE AND THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. THE 21 REPUBLICANS STARTED TALKING ABOUT DEBT. AND THEY KEPT 22 SAYING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND THEY KEPT SAYING IT 23 OVER AND OVER AGAIN, DEBT, DEBT, DEBT, DEBT, DEBT, DEBT. 24 SUDDENLY, DEBT WAS THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY SAID IT SO 25 MANY TIMES AND THE MEDIA PICKED IT UP DEBT, DEBT, DEBT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 243 1 THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 2 THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING HERE. THEY ARE 3 SAYING -- THEY ARE SAYING STUDENT SUCCESS, STUDENT 4 SUCCESS, STUDENT SUCCESS. WE GOT TO GET RID OF THE 5 SYSTEM. JUST LIKE WITH THE DEBT WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO 6 DO BY FOCUSSING ON DEBT IS SAY WE'VE GOT TO SHRINK 7 GOVERNMENT UNTIL IT, YOU KNOW -- AND THEN FLICK IT SMALL 8 ENOUGH TO DROWN IN THE BATHTUB AS SOMEONE SAID. THAT WAS 9 THEIR GOAL. IT WASN'T ABOUT DEBT. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE 10 ECONOMY. IT WAS ABOUT SHRINKING GOVERNMENT. THIS IS THE 11 SAME THING. 12 THIS IS THE SAME THING. IT'S NOT ABOUT STUDENT 13 SUCCESS. THEY ARE USING THAT. AND THEY ARE GOING TO 14 CONTINUE TO USE THAT WORD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 15 SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT LET'S NOT FALL INTO 16 THE TRAP THAT LIBERALS FELL INTO WITH THE DEBT. WE ALL 17 STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE DEBT -- COLLECTIVELY WE, NOT YOU 18 KNOW US PERSONALLY. BUT WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE 19 DEBT. THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE 20 DEBT AND SUDDENLY THAT BECAME THE PROBLEM. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND WE KNOW STUDENTS -- 22 WE HAVE HAD -- THE DIFFERENCE IS WE HAD THE CONVERSATION 23 ABOUT STUDENT EQUITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS. WE TOOK 24 TANGIBLE STEPS TO ADDRESS THAT STUDENT INEQUITY AND 25 STUDENT SUCCESS. AND WE KNOW THAT WE'VE MADE LARGE OCTOBER 27, 2011 244 1 IMPROVEMENTS IN STUDENT EQUITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO WHY NOT HIGHLIGHT 4 THE FACT THAT CITY COLLEGE HAS PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR 5 MOUTH IS, AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THOSE STEPS. WE'VE 6 ADDED BASIC SKILLS CLASSES, SO WE UNDID THE BOTTLENECK, 7 AND WE'VE DONE REAL THINGS TO DO THAT. 8 ALL I AM SAYING IS LET'S ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK 9 THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE AROUND STUDENT EQUITY AND 10 SUCCESS AND HIGHLIGHT THAT. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE REASON THAT I DON'T WANT 12 TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE IT BUYS INTO THEIR FRAME. SUDDENLY, 13 WE ARE TALKING IN THEIR FRAME. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WELL, THAT -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING 16 THAT. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHAT? WE KNOW THERE 18 ARE STUDENTS THAT ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS OF OUR 19 INSTITUTIONS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DO. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, SO BY NOT TALKING 22 ABOUT IT, WE ARE JUST LETTING THOSE STUDENTS FALL THROUGH 23 THE CRACKS OF OUR INSTITUTION. 24 I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE DEBT CONVERSATION. 25 THAT WAS A BOONDOGGLE. BUT WE KNOW THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO OCTOBER 27, 2011 245 1 ARE NOT SUCCEEDING IN OUR INSTITUTIONS. WE HAVE TAKEN 2 ACTUAL STEPS TO ADDRESS THAT. WE OUGHT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT 3 AND SAY, THESE ARE REAL TANGIBLE STEPS TO ADDRESS STUDENT 4 EQUITY AND STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. THAT'S A TACTIC. YOU 5 JUST DON'T SAY "NO." THAT'S NOT A COMPELLING -- THEY 6 ACTUALLY AT LEAST HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. 7 THE WAY YOU FIGHT A RECOMMENDATION IS WITH A 8 BETTER RECOMMENDATION, NOT JUST SAYING "NO" AND PUTTING 9 YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND. 10 AND SO COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY WHERE THE FOLKS 11 WHO ARE SUCCEEDING THE LEAST, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO KIND OF 12 SAY, WELL, I KNOW WHO SUCCEEDS THE LEAST. I LIVE AMONG 13 THEM. AND SO, YEAH, I WANT TO SEE STUDENT SUCCESS. 14 AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT -- I AM PROUD OF THE 15 EFFORTS WE'VE MADE TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS STUDENT SUCCESS. I 16 WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE EFFORTS. AND I WANT THAT TO BE A 17 MODEL FOR WHAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD SYSTEMWIDE. AND I 18 THINK THAT'S A GOOD TACTIC. 19 WHAT WE DO -- WHAT LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVES 20 MESS UP ON IS BY JUST SAYING "NO" AND NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING 21 FORTH A COMPELLING VISION OF WHAT STUDENT SUCCESS IS AND 22 WE CEDE THE ENTIRE FLOOR TO CONSERVATIVES ON STUDENT 23 SUCCESS. 24 WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DO? OH, YOU 25 GUYS DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? OCTOBER 27, 2011 246 1 AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SIT THERE LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T 2 HAVE ANYTHING ON PAPER YET, BUT WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU. 3 WELL, HEY, WE ALREADY HAVE IT HERE. WE ARE GOING TO PASS 4 WHAT WE WANT. YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A BETTER VISION FOR 5 PEOPLE. THAT'S HOW PEOPLE BUY INTO THE STUFF. 6 THE DEMOCRATS ON DEBT DIDN'T HAVE A BETTER 7 VISION. THEY DIDN'T REFRAME THE CONVERSATION. THEY JUST 8 BOUGHT INTO THE CONCEPT. BY SAYING, "NO," YOU ARE PLAYING 9 INTO THEIR HANDS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE ARE GOING TO SAY 10 "NO." WE ARE NOT SURPRISING ANYBODY. OH, SAN FRANCISCO 11 CITY COLLEGE SAID, "NO" TO THIS ARE. THAT'S NOT A 12 SURPRISE TO ANYBODY. WHAT SURPRISES PEOPLE IS ACTUALLY 13 TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T SUCCEED AND ALL 14 PEOPLE DON'T SUCCEED IN COLLEGE AND HAVING SOMETHING 15 BETTER. THAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOOD. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. I GUESS WE HAVE TO 17 VOTE. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: I THINK WE SHOULD. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: WE SHOULD VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, DO YOU HAVE TO SAY 21 ANYTHING? 22 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I HAVE A LOT TO SAY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MAIN 25 RESOLUTION. OCTOBER 27, 2011 247 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOU GUYS CAN REJECT MY 2 AMENDMENTS. I DON'T CARE. THAT'S FINE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE ON 4 THE AMENDMENT. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): NAY. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 7 ON THE AMENDMENT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 8 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM GOING TO VOTE "NO." 16 TRUSTEE GRIER. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IT DOESN'T MATTER. 18 IT'S DEAD. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: SHE STILL HAS TO VOTE. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: DID WE HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A 21 DISCUSSION ABOUT IT OR DID WE MISS IT? 22 TRUSTEE NGO: WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE JUST BEEN TALKING 24 ABOUT IT FOR THE LAST HALF HOUR. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO, I AM SAYING -- SO WE DIDN'T OCTOBER 27, 2011 248 1 REALLY CONCLUDE IT -- WE DIDN'T REALLY SAY. 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE DIDN'T CONCLUDE 3 ANYTHING. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO -- 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH OR NAY. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CONTINUE -- 8 TRUSTEE NGO: WE ARE VOTING, SO I DON'T -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S GET ON WITH IT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: IF TRUSTEE GRIER WANTS TO SAY 11 SOMETHING -- 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER, DO YOU WANT TO 13 SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT? 14 I DON'T WANT TO STOP ANYBODY FROM SAYING 15 ANYTHING. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, I DID WANT TO MAKE A 17 COMMENT. AND THE COMMENT JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT 18 THAT WE HAVE COME TO THIS MEETING. WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS. 19 WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. AND I THINK THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WERE 20 PLANNING TO RESPOND. AND THIS IS A FIRST RESPONSE. THERE 21 WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE COME BACK TO OUR NEXT 22 MEETING BECAUSE SO MANY OTHER THINGS WILL OCCUR BETWEEN 23 THE TIME NOW AND WHEN WE COME BACK. 24 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS 25 THERE'S GOING TO BE A STUDENT DEBATE. THERE'S GOING TO BE OCTOBER 27, 2011 249 1 A MEETING IN OAKLAND THAT I PLAN TO ATTEND. I ALSO PLAN 2 TO ATTEND THE BOARD OF GOVERNOR'S MEETING. 3 I ALSO HAVE THE REPORT IN FRONT OF ME, AND MANY 4 OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS TASK FORCE ARE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW. 5 I MEAN LIKE CONSTANCE CARROLL, LIKE GABRINER, LIKE BRICE 6 HARRIS, I KNOW A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE. I'VE WORKED WITH 7 THESE PEOPLE. AND I WILL PERSONALLY TRACK THEM DOWN AND 8 SAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE YOUR NAME ON THIS DOCUMENT. 9 I MEAN I AM APPALLED. 10 BUT I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW IS RESPONDING 11 IMMEDIATELY AND QUICKLY, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE AN 12 OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH ALL OF US IN TERMS OF EXPANDING 13 YOUR IDEA. I DO AGREE WITH YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOUR 14 CONCEPT. I UNDERSTAND YOUR PLAN. 15 BUT I THINK WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THAT THEY 16 BROUGHT A RESPONSE HERE TODAY. THEY WANT TO USE THIS, BUT 17 I THINK THAT WE CAN EMBELLISH YOUR IDEA, YOUR PLAN. WE 18 CAN BROADEN IT, AND WE CAN SUBMIT IT AS WELL. BUT I THINK 19 BECAUSE OF THE TIME AND BECAUSE OF THE LATENESS OF THE 20 HOUR, I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT AND THEN GO 21 ON WITH THE PLAN TOO WHICH WOULD INCLUDE WHAT YOU HAVE 22 SAID. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: ARE WE VOTING NOW? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: NOW WE ARE VOTING. OCTOBER 27, 2011 250 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I WILL TAKE THAT AS A 2 "NO" TO THE AMENDMENT. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO THE MOTION FAILS. 5 SO WE ARE ON THE MAIN RESOLUTION. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING 8 TRUSTEE NGO OR DO YOU WANT TO -- WHAT DO YOU THINK OF 9 TRUSTEES GRIER'S SUGGESTION? 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM SHOCKED. I AM REALLY SHOCKED 11 THAT THERE'S SOME PROPOSAL TO IMPROVE WHAT WE DO. AND 12 THERE'S JUST A BLANKET CATEGORICAL REJECTION OF 13 EVERYTHING. IT'S SHOCKING TO ME. GIVEN MY EXPERIENCE OF 14 WORKING ON EQUITY ISSUES AT THIS CAMPUS. I AM BEING 15 SARCASTIC. 16 BUT LOOK, I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- THIS IS WHAT 17 HAPPENED -- IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND STUDENT 18 SUCCESS, WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME HOW MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS 19 ACTUALLY FINISH FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE SEQUENCE IN 20 ENGLISH AND GET TO 1A, 9 PERCENT. YES, LET'S BE HONEST, 21 THERE'S FAILURE. OKAY? 22 REALITY. THAT'S A REALITY CHECK. THAT'S WHAT 23 WE ARE DEALING WITH. 24 NOW SOME OF THESE THINGS -- LAST TIME I CHECKED, 25 THEY DIDN'T SOUND TOO ABSURD BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DO THIS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 251 1 SO IF YOU ARE ALL GOING TO REJECT EVERY SINGLE THING 2 CATEGORICALLY LIKE YOU ALL DID WITH THE EQUITY RESOLUTION, 3 THAT'S FINE. IT'S JUST THAT THERE WAS NO ALTERNATIVE LIKE 4 IN RESPONSE TO THE EQUITY RESOLUTION FOR ANYTHING. EVEN 5 THOUGH THESE IDEAS HAD COME FROM FACULTY. 6 I MEAN IF YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STUDENT 7 SUCCESS, YOU SHOULD MAYBE CHECK IN WITH TWO OF THE BOARD 8 MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY RESPOND TO THE RESOLUTION WHO HELD 9 THE HEARING AND WANTED TO WORK ON STUDENT SUCCESS. 10 BUT MAYBE THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE 11 PEOPLE SHOULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY IN THIS 12 DOCUMENT BECAUSE 4.1, "FOCUS COURSE OFFERINGS AND 13 SCHEDULES ON NEEDS OF STUDENTS," HOW HORRIFIC IS THAT TO 14 SOME PEOPLE? 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BUT YOU KNOW -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I FINISH? 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GO AHEAD. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY? 19 WHAT ELSE IS THERE, "DIRECT PROFESSIONAL 20 DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES TOWARD IMPROVING BASIC SKILLS 21 INSTRUCTION AND SUPPORT SERVICES." 22 WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? 23 I AM NOT DONE, OKAY. 24 "SET LOCAL STUDENT SUCCESS GOALS CONSISTENT WITH 25 STATEWIDE GOALS." OCTOBER 27, 2011 252 1 WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE GOALS? 2 I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- LOOK "PROMOTE FLEXIBILITY 3 AND INNOVATION BASIC SKILLS THROUGH ALTERNATIVE FUNDING 4 MECHANISM." 5 OKAY, MAYBE THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT 6 STILL, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY CONTROL THE NARRATIVE IF WE ARE 7 CONCERNED ABOUT TACTICS? 8 HOW DO YOU CONTROL A NARRATIVE WITHOUT ANYTHING 9 TO FILL IT, TO VACUUM. 10 HOW DO YOU FILL A NARRATIVE, FILL A VACUUM, WHEN 11 YOU KNOW BLACK CHILDREN AND LATINO CHILDREN ARE FAILING 12 OUR SCHOOLS? 13 AND THE ONLY PEOPLE RESPONDING TO THEM 14 AFFIRMATIVELY ARE CORPORATE RESPONSES, VOUCHERS, NO CHILD 15 LEFT BEHIND, WHAT ELSE? 16 AND WHAT HAS BEEN OUR NARRATIVE, NO, NO, NO. 17 AND IN THE MEANTIME, WHO IS ACTUALLY SPEAKING TO 18 THAT CHILD IN THE GHETTO OR IN THE BARRIOS? 19 WHO IS SPEAKING TO THEIR ASPIRATIONS? 20 THEY ARE, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING. 21 THEY WANT TO PROMOTE SOMETHING POSITIVE. 22 AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE REJECTING ALL OF THIS 23 CATEGORICALLY IN MY MIND, UNDERMINES OUR CREDIBILITY WHEN 24 WE GET TO THE TABLE. WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT 25 STUDENT SUCCESS BECAUSE BY THE WAY, WE SHOULD HAVE ONE, OCTOBER 27, 2011 253 1 BUT WE CAN'T HAVE ONE BY SAYING, WE DON'T -- WE ARE GOING 2 TO MAKE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS ON YOU, SOUNDS FAMILIAR. AND 3 WE ARE GOING TO SAY, "NO," TO EVERYTHING YOU ARE GOING TO 4 PROPOSE. WE JUST CAN'T STAND FOR IT. WE ARE NOT -- AND 5 WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN RESPONSE. 6 TRUSTEE JACKSON ACTUALLY WANTS TO PROPOSE 7 SOMETHING IN RESPONSE TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE. HE WANTS 8 TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE ABOUT FUNDING WHICH IS TRUE. AND 9 YET, WE HAVE SUCH A DOGMATIC RESPONSE TO THIS THAT WE ARE 10 SAYING, "NO" TO FUNDING. THINK ABOUT THAT. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: (INAUDIBLE). 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: (INAUDIBLE). 13 TRUSTEE NGO: LET ME FINISH. I LET YOU -- 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I -- I'M NOT -- I SAT FOR LIKE 16 A HALF HOUR TO HEAR EVERYTHING AND LET EVERYONE SAY 17 SOMETHING, AND I THINK I SHOULD BE HEARD FULLY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, YOU ARE ASKING 19 QUESTIONS, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW. IT'S JUST MY -- SORRY. 21 BUT THE POINT -- 22 FAIR ENOUGH, TRUSTEE RIZZO. 23 SO LOOK, I UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT THE RIGHT 24 WING HAS CONTROLLED A NARRATIVE ON EDUCATION, BUT WE HAVE 25 TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAVE BEEN. AND IN THE VACUUM WHEN OCTOBER 27, 2011 254 1 WE KNOW KIDS ARE FAILING, DISPROPORTIONATELY STUDENTS OF 2 COLOR, THEY ARE FILLING IT AND WE ARE NOT. THESE ARE NOT 3 IN WHOLE BAD PROPOSALS. WE LOSE CREDIBILITY WHEN WE SAY 4 EVERYTHING IS BAD. WE JUST DO. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT -- 5 WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT EVERYTHING CAREFULLY. WE ARE NOT 6 BEING JUDICIOUS ABOUT ANY RECOMMENDATION WHATSOEVER. 7 NONE OF THESE -- WAS THERE SOMETHING -- IS THERE 8 SOMETHING -- IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION ON THIS 9 ALREADY BESIDES -- WITHOUT BOARD APPROVAL? 10 I JUST WANT TO KNOW, CHANCELLOR. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, THERE'S NOT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I DIDN'T THINK SO. 13 SO LOOK, NONE OF THESE THINGS, OKAY -- NOT ALL 14 OF THESE THINGS ARE BAD IDEAS. YOU CAN SAY, MOST OF THEM 15 ARE, I WILL LET YOU GO THAT FAR. I WILL LET YOU GO THAT 16 FAR, BUT SOME OF THEM AREN'T. SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY 17 IDEAS THAT CAME OUT OF THE POPPY COPY THAT EVERYONE I 18 THOUGHT HAD EMBRACED AT THIS COLLEGE. SOME OF THESE IDEAS 19 WE ACTUALLY DO NOW AT THE COLLEGE BECAUSE OF OUR EQUITY. 20 SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT THEY ARE ALL 21 BAD, I THINK WE LOSE CREDIBILITY. AND I DON'T THINK 22 WE'RE -- IT HELPS FOR US TO GLOSS OVER THE FACT THAT WE 23 ARE FAILING A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY ARE NOT MAKING IT 24 THROUGH OUR SYSTEM. THAT'S A FACT. AND YOU WANT TO 25 IGNORE IT AND DISNEYLAND -- MAKE IT -- KIND OF FANTASTIC OCTOBER 27, 2011 255 1 SIZE IT, THAT'S FINE. 2 BUT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THESE PROBLEMS, 3 WE CAN'T SOLVE THEM. AND WE HAVE KNEE-JERK IDEOLOGICAL 4 RESPONSES TO THEM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. 5 IN THE MEANTIME, SOMEONE ELSE WILL SPEAK TO 6 THEIR ASPIRATIONS. WE SHOULD BE DOING IT. AND FUNDING IS 7 JUST A VERY SIMPLE NARRATIVE THAT I THOUGHT EVERYONE 8 AGREED WITH, BUT THIS DOGMA IS SO BAD, WE CAN'T EVEN 9 INCORPORATE THAT IN OUR RESPONSE. I AM NOT VOTING FOR S2 10 OR S3 BECAUSE OF THAT. 11 I WANT TO SAY TOO THAT -- I HAVE SAID THIS 12 DIRECTLY TO CTA LEADERSHIP ABOUT THE NEED TO CONTROL A 13 NARRATIVE. THEY DO -- THE CTA IS DOING GREAT WORK ON A 14 QEIA FUNDING. THEY ARE, BUT THAT NARRATIVE ISN'T GETTING 15 OUT THERE. AND WE ARE NOT EMBRACING THOSE REFORMS AT ALL. 16 AND WE SHOULD DO THE SAME THING HERE. 17 I AM PROUD OF THE WORK WE ARE DOING ON EQUITY. 18 I THINK YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HEARD 19 TONIGHT. RIGHT WING WITH THE BOARD AND FUNDING WITH 20 ACADEMIC FREEDOM WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME THING, SAME KIND 21 OF OVERZEALOUS IDEOLOGICAL RESPONSES. AND IN THE 22 MEANTIME, PROBLEMS AREN'T BEING SOLVED. KNOWN SOLUTIONS 23 THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE HAD AT THIS COLLEGE FOR A WHILE, 24 THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PURSUED BECAUSE OF THESE IDEOLOGICAL 25 PARTISAN RESPONSES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 256 1 I AM TIRED OF THE POLITICS. I REALLY AM ON ALL 2 SIDES. LET'S HAVE A SENSIBLE APPROACH TO WHAT WE DO. AND 3 REJECTING RECOMMENDATIONS WHOLESALE CATEGORICALLY IS NOT A 4 RESPONSIBLE SENSIBLE RESPONSE. SO I AM GOING TO VOTE "NO" 5 ON S2 AND S3. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COULD I ASK -- I WANT TO 7 ANSWER ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS. YOU HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS, 8 SO I WILL JUST ANSWER ONE. 9 YOU STARTED A LIST OF WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS AND 10 YOU READ OFF SOME THINGS. THE THINGS THAT'S WRONG WITH 11 THOSE THINGS THAT YOU LEFT IS THEIR SOLUTION. THEIR 12 SOLUTION IS NOT WHAT WE WOULD HAVE. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S 13 WRONG WITH THIS -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU READ EXACTLY. 14 BUT THEIR SOLUTION IS NOT TO HELP PEOPLE OF COLOR. IT'S 15 TO EXCLUDE PEOPLE OF COLOR. THEIR SOLUTION IS NOT TO GIVE 16 US MORE FUNDING. IT'S TO GIVE US LESS FUNDING. THEIR 17 SOLUTION IS FOCUSED ON A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE TO THE 18 EXCLUSION OF EVERYONE ELSE. 19 SO WHEN THEY SAY, DO THIS, THE DEVIL IS IN THE 20 DETAIL. WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ON HOW THEY ARE GOING TO DO 21 THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU AND I OR WHAT OUR EQUITY PROGRAM HAS 22 IN MIND. IT'S QUITE THE OPPOSITE. THAT'S MY ANSWER TO 23 THAT. I AM REALLY SORRY TO HEAR -- I THINK IT'S VERY, 24 VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE PASS THIS. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD LOVE TO PASS S2 WITH THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 257 1 AMENDMENTS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO 2 THAT'S TOO BAD. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST READ -- I COULD GO THROUGH 5 ALL OF THIS AND SAY WHAT WE SUPPORT AND WHAT WE DON'T 6 SUPPORT. I READ IT. I KNOW IT. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO 7 THAT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOW ABOUT A COMPROMISE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU WANT TO HAVE A KNEE-JERK 10 REACTION, OKAY, NOT YOU, BUT I AM SAYING THE BOARD, 11 TRUSTEE RIZZO. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT A 13 COMPROMISE THEN? HOW ABOUT WE TAKE THE WHEREASES -- 14 TRUSTEE JACKSON'S WHEREASES AS THE COMPROMISE. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: DOESN'T -- I WOULD LOVE THAT AS A 16 NECESSARY CONDITION OF COMPROMISE, BUT WHY CAN'T WE JUST 17 LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS -- I'M NOT EVEN DEBATING THESE 18 RECOMMENDATIONS, DO YOU REALIZE THIS? WE ARE NOT EVEN 19 DEBATING THE SUBSTANTIVE ASPECTS OF THE RECOMMENDATION AT 20 ALL. NO ONE IS. AND YET, YOU WANT TO WHOLESALE REJECT 21 ALL OF THEM. ISN'T THAT ODD? 22 I'M SORRY. IT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. I THINK IT'S 23 ODD THAT WE ARE NOT EVEN DEBATING ANY OF THE -- THERE'S 24 EIGHT CHAPTERS, RIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NINE CHAPTERS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 258 1 TRUSTEE NGO: EIGHT CHAPTERS, WE HAVEN'T TALKED 2 ABOUT ONE OF THEM. WE JUST MADE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS AND 3 WE'VE TAKEN IDEOLOGICAL POSITIONS. IN THE MEANTIME 4 SOMEONE ELSE IS SPEAKING TO THESE KIDS ASPIRATIONS. IT'S 5 NOT US. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, DO YOU HAVE A 7 SUGGESTION, CHANCELLOR? 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PROBABLY NEED A LOT MORE -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PUBLIC COMMENT. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE PROBABLY NEED A LOT MORE 11 DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT IS IN SOME WAYS WE ARE 12 TALKING ABOUT TACTICS. AND IN OTHER WAYS, WE ARE TALKING 13 ABOUT AN EMPIRICAL SITUATION THAT -- FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T 14 THINK ANYBODY BELIEVES THAT CITY COLLEGE HAS THE ABILITY 15 ALONE TO STOP THIS TRAIN. NO, WE DO. SO MAYBE OUR SAYING 16 "NO" OR "YES" TO CERTAIN THINGS IS NOT THE HUGE 17 DIFFERENCE. 18 MY PROBLEM IS THAT I AM NOT CONVINCED OF THE 19 SINCERITY WHEN THE BUDGET IS BEING CUT, AND WE ARE BEING 20 TOLD THAT WE PLAN TO CUT EVEN MORE, AND WE ARE GOING TO 21 DESTROY EVEN MORE. AND I AM LOOKING DOWN THE LINE AND I 22 AM SAYING, I KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING. IN THE END THERE'S 23 GOING TO BE LESS RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE THAT WE CARE ABOUT. 24 THAT'S WHAT'S TROUBLING FOR ME. 25 BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD WANT TO PUT OCTOBER 27, 2011 259 1 OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT WE'VE 2 ACCOMPLISHED. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD WANT TO BE 3 CRITICAL OF THE FAILINGS OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. 4 BUT THIS IS AN ATTACK ON THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 5 IT'S NOT JUST ON OUR FAILINGS. IT'S LIKE THEY ARE GOING 6 TO IGNORE -- WE COULD ATTACK EVERYTHING ABOUT THE EQUITY 7 THAT WE'VE DONE IN TERMS OF THE STUDENT EQUITY. WE COULD 8 ATTACK THE REPORTS, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND PUT IT ALL 9 THERE AND SAY, LET'S MAKE THIS AN ADDENDUM TO THIS 10 RESOLUTION AND SEND IT FORWARD. TO ME, I WOULD BE FINE 11 WITH THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GET PEOPLE 12 LISTENING TO THAT EITHER. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AS OPPOSED TO JUST 14 SAYING "NO." I MEAN HOW DO YOU LISTEN TO "NO." 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING. I 16 AM SAYING, IF WE SAID THIS RESOLUTION SAYS "NO" AND THESE 17 ARE THE THINGS WE ARE DOING AT CITY COLLEGE, AND YOU 18 ATTACH THAT AND SEND IT FORWARD. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING 19 THAT I WOULD BE TOTALLY WILLING TO DO. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I WOULD BE OKAY WITH 22 THAT TOO, BUT THAT'S -- 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WELL, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE 24 SHOULD DO THEN. LET'S ATTACH WHAT WE ARE DOING, NOT SO -- 25 WE ARE SAYING, "NO," TO THIS AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT OCTOBER 27, 2011 260 1 WE ARE DOING, BOOM. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. I MEAN THAT'S 3 ALL I WAS ASKING FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE. I JUST DIDN'T 4 WANT TO SAY "NO." I WANTED TO SAY THIS IS OUR VISION FOR 5 IT. 6 SO THANK YOU, CHANCELLOR, FOR COMING UP WITH A 7 NICE COMPROMISE. I APPRECIATE IT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, I -- 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I'VE KEPT MY HAND 10 RAISED -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEP. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- FOR THE LAST TEN 13 MINUTES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SORRY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN YOU VOCALIZE. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WAS TRYING TO BE 18 RESPECTFUL. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MY APOLOGIES, TRUSTEE. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: FIRST AND FOREMOST, 21 APOLOGIES TO TRUSTEE JACKSON IF YOU TOOK OFFENSE TO WHAT I 22 SAID EARLIER. IT WASN'T MEANT THAT WAY. I NEVER SAID 23 THAT YOU ARE AGAINST THE POSITION OF STUDENT SUCCESS TASK 24 FORCE RECOMMENDATION IS BAD. 25 NOW THE THING IS I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 261 1 AND SINCE THERE IS A STUDENT EQUITY LOCALLY, WE'VE DONE A 2 LOT OF GOOD FOR STUDENTS. IT'S PROVEN. WE GOT -- WE'RE 3 STARTING TO COMPILE RECORDS, THE STATUS OF IT. 4 HERE'S THE THING, THE CATCHALL IN THIS STUDENT 5 SUCCESS TASK FORCE IS CENTRALIZATION. THEY WILL TAKE THE 6 SOLUTION. THEY MAY EVEN TAKE THE CCSF SOLUTION, BUT THEY 7 SAY, WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT STATEWIDE. THEY WILL NOT COME 8 FROM THE LOCAL BOARD. WE WILL HAVE NO AUTHORITY AND BE 9 MORE NIMBLE AND HAVE OUR LOCAL CHANGING CONDITION RESPOND 10 TO OUR LOCAL CONDITIONS. WE WILL JUST LISTEN TO THE 11 CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE STATE -- AT THE STATE LEVEL. THAT'S 12 THE CATCHALL. 13 WHAT'S SCARY ABOUT THAT IS SACRAMENTO USED A 14 HACKSAW. WE USE SURGICAL KNIVES, OKAY. WE PINPOINT A 15 PROBLEM. WE FIX IT. SACRAMENTO DOESN'T DO THAT. ONCE 16 YOU GET A TYPE OF THING AND PUT IT IN THERE, IT'S 17 STRUCTURAL. IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US, BUT THERE ARE 112 18 COMMUNITY COLLEGES. I KNOW FOR A FACT AT LEAST TEN OTHER 19 COMMUNITY COLLEGES THAT I'VE TALKED TO WITH THEIR STUDENT 20 LEADERS, THEY DO SOME KIND OF MEASURE ON STUDENT SUCCESS, 21 SOME KIND OF CUSTOMIZED SOLUTION. HOWEVER, THEY ARE ALL 22 DIFFERENT. THEY ARE ALL VARIATIONS OF HOW TO MAKE THEIR 23 OWN COMMUNITIES WORK. 24 THE KEY HERE IS IF WE ACCEPT THIS, IT'S GONNA -- 25 THE CATCHALL CENTRALIZATION. WE SAY, "NO," BECAUSE WE'VE OCTOBER 27, 2011 262 1 GOT TO FIGHT AGAINST THAT CATCHALL. WE CAN COME UP WITH 2 OUR OWN RESPONSE. 3 IN FACT I AM WORKING WITH MANY COMMUNITY 4 COLLEGES, STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS STATEWIDE TO BUILD OUR OWN 5 ANSWER. EXCEPT LIKE WHAT TRUSTEE GRIER SAID, FIRST 6 RESPOND, "NO," WE WILL VERY QUICKLY -- WE ARE MOVING VERY 7 QUICKLY ON THIS COMING WITH OUR OWN SOLUTION. 8 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO -- I HAVE BEEN TOUTING 9 STUDENT SUCCESS -- THE STUDENT EQUITY THAT WE HAVE BEEN 10 DOING. I HAVE BEEN TOUTING THAT STATEWIDE, AND IT'S 11 ACCEPTED NOW. HERE'S THE THING STILL, LOCAL CONTROL, 12 OKAY. 13 SO WHAT I HOPE IS -- WHAT I AM URGING THE BOARD 14 MEMBERS THAT'S STILL HERE TONIGHT IS ACCEPT THIS 15 RESOLUTION, APPROVE IT -- WE CAN -- WE WILL WORK TOGETHER, 16 NOT JUST AMONGST OURSELF, BUT WITH OTHER COLLEGES. I HAVE 17 A STUDENT TRUSTEE FROM COLLEGE OF MARIN RIGHT HERE 18 LISTENING TO THE ENTIRE MEETING. WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER 19 TO BUILD ANSWERS THAT WORKS. THANK YOU. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK I LIKE THE 21 CHANCELLOR'S SUGGESTION. LET'S MAKE IT OFFICIAL AS BY 22 AMENDING OUR ACTION TO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE 23 THAT. 24 DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, YEAH. OCTOBER 27, 2011 263 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IS THERE GOING TO BE 2 LIKE A LINE THAT'S ACTUALLY SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT WE DO 3 (INAUDIBLE). 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH 5 THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO ADOPT. 6 AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO FORWARD THE CHANCELLOR'S MOST 7 RECENT EQUITY TASK FORCE REPORT, ALONG WITH THIS LETTER. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. I ACCEPT IT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THERE SOME -- 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE HAVE TO FOCUS. IT'S 12 MIDNIGHT. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT'S GOING ON? 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S AFTER MIDNIGHT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT'S GOING ON? 16 MR. TETI: IT'S FRIDAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE CAN'T HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN 18 THE AUDIENCE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SAYING. THANK YOU. 19 OKAY, SO YOU ARE MOVING THAT. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, LET ME WORK ON THIS LANGUAGE 21 BECAUSE IT'S -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT IN THERE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHILE HE IS WORKING ON THAT, 23 LET ME JUST SAY THAT I THINK THE FINANCIAL REPORT, I THINK 24 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THAT OFF TO THE NEXT BUDGET 25 COMMITTEE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 264 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHICH IS NEXT WEEK, I 2 BELIEVE. 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THURSDAY AT 5:00 O'CLOCK. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. ALL RIGHT BECAUSE I 5 THINK IT'S TOO LATE -- 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, IT'S TOO LATE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TO GET INTO IT. IT'S AN 8 IMPORTANT TOPIC, AND WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS HERE. SO -- 9 DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DO YOU NEED TO COME UP? 11 MS. PODENSKI: I THINK WE ARE ALL GOING TO TRY 12 TO. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU 14 FROM THERE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS IT NECESSARY? BECAUSE 16 LOOK, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT -- 17 MS. MUELLER: I NEED TO TRY IT. I NEED TO. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. NO. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LOOK, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT 20 WE AGREE ON. 21 MS. MUELLER: BUT THE HEARINGS ARE RESPONDING TO 22 THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. IT'S NOT PRESENTING OUR 23 RECOMMENDATIONS. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT OCTOBER 27, 2011 265 1 TO DO, YEAH. 2 IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, AND YOU THINK IT'S 3 HELPFUL. 4 MS. SAGINOR: I AM HOPING IT'S HELPFUL. I HAVE 5 LOOKED AT THE INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I WILL JUST 6 COMMENT ON TWO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 8 MS. SAGINOR: THERE IS SOME GOOD STUFF IN THERE, 9 RIGHT? 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 11 MS. SAGINOR: THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE BASICALLY 12 SAYING, YOU WANT SOMETHING GOOD, WELL IN ORDER TO GET THIS 13 GOOD THING, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE YOU DO ALL THIS OTHER 14 STUFF. 15 FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT 16 LIBRARY RESEARCH DATA BASES. YOU DON'T NEED TO AMEND 17 TITLE V IN THE ED CODE TO DO THAT. THEY COULD DO THOSE 18 GOOD THINGS NOW. THEY WANT EXACT -- A REALLY HUGE PRICE 19 FOR SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE. 20 ONE -- MY EXPECTATION ABOUT THIS IS THAT IN 21 REGARDS TO THE STATE ACADEMIC SENATE AND SO FORTH, WE ARE 22 GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, DOING SEVERAL THINGS. I AM ASKING 23 FOR A REJECTION OF IT, BUT I DON'T EXPECT THAT WILL HAPPEN 24 IN THAT WAY. AND THEN I WILL LOOKING AT THESE ONE AT 25 TIME, RIGHT? OCTOBER 27, 2011 266 1 ONE, I JUST WANT TO MENTION BECAUSE OF THE 2 STUDENT EQUITY TASK FORCE, RIGHT, WHICH I WAS AT LAST 3 WEEK. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT THERE, 4 RIGHT, WAS PLACEMENT TESTING, AND HOW WE WANT TO CHANGE 5 THE PLACEMENT TEST. THE PLACEMENT TESTS ARE AN OBSTACLE 6 TO OUR STUDENTS. WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT. I HEARD THIS 7 GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT 8 DIFFERENTLY NEXT YEAR. 9 IF RECOMMENDATION 2.1 GOES THROUGH AND THAT'S 10 ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE STATE 11 CHANCELLOR'S LIST, IT WILL COMPLETELY PUT AN END TO THAT. 12 AND THEN IT WILL BE THE STATE CALLING ALL THE SHOTS ON 13 PLACEMENT TESTING. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO US. 14 THANK YOU. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I THINK BY ADDING THE 16 WORK THAT WE ARE DOING ALREADY -- I MEAN I SEE IT AS KIND 17 OF CELEBRATING WORK THAT OUR FACULTY, STAFF, AND 18 ADMINISTRATION, BOARD, AND CHANCELLOR ARE DOING. I THINK 19 WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK. AND I THINK BY PUTTING 20 THAT IN THERE, WE ACTUALLY ARE HIGHLIGHTING IT. AND I 21 KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO CONVINCE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE 22 CONVINCED IT SHOULD JUST BE A "NO," BUT I ACTUALLY WANT TO 23 CELEBRATE THE WORK THAT THIS COLLEGE DOES BECAUSE A LOT OF 24 TIMES WE, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, BUT WE ACTUALLY DO GOOD 25 THINGS. WE DO GREAT AMAZING THINGS. OCTOBER 27, 2011 267 1 AND I THINK -- YOU KNOW, NOT TO TELL PEOPLE THIS 2 IS THE SAN FRANCISCO VALUES OF STUDENT SUCCESS IS LIKE, 3 MAN, WE FAILED TO TELL WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING TO 4 INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING IT. 5 AND I MEAN I REALLY JUST WANT TO CELEBRATE THE 6 WORK THAT WE ARE DOING, SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR GUYS POSITION 7 ON JUST A HARD "NO," I GET THAT. I GET THAT SOMETIMES YOU 8 HAVE TO GO HARDLINE ON THINGS, BUT I REALLY THINK THIS IS 9 AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SAN FRANCISCO VALUES. 10 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM SORRY WE CAN'T AGREE ON 11 THIS, BUT LIKE, AT LEAST WE KNOW WE ARE AGAINST THE TASK 12 FORCE STUFF, WELL MOST OF IT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. NO. NO. 14 TRUSTEE FANG, PLEASE IT'S 12:20. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: COME ON. I THINK WE NEED TO 16 VOTE ON IT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S 12:20. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, CAN YOU JUST READ US 20 WHAT YOU HAVE? 21 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, WHAT I HAVE IS AT THE END 22 IT'S "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 23 SUPPORTS EFFECTIVE STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES, INCLUDING 24 THOSE BOLDLY PURSUED" -- I'M SORRY. "INCLUDING THOSE THE 25 COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY PURSUED THROUGH THE CHANCELLOR'S TASK OCTOBER 27, 2011 268 1 FORCE ON STUDENT EQUITY AND" -- 2 IS IT STUDENT SUCCESS, CHANCELLOR, OR STUDENT 3 ACHIEVEMENT? 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: STUDENT SUCCESS. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. "THROUGH THE CHANCELLOR'S 6 TASK FORCE ON EQUITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS." 7 FINALLY "BE IT RESOLVED" -- NEXT PARAGRAPH -- 8 "FINALLY, BE IT RESOLVED, A COPY OF THE CHANCELLOR'S MOST 9 RECENT REPORT ON THE COLLEGES TASK FORCE ON STUDENT EQUITY 10 AND STUDENT SUCCESS SHALL BE FORWARDED TO" -- 11 WHO DO WE FORWARD THIS TO? 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, CAN I SAY, I DON'T THINK 13 THAT LAST PART IS NECESSARY. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: FAIR ENOUGH. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- SHOW THIS AROUND. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: FINE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND WE'LL JUST -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: FINE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- ATTACH IT TO IT. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: FINE. THEN JUST THE LAST PART. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. OCTOBER 27, 2011 269 1 TRUSTEE NGO: DID WE GET THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE 2 I -- 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: (INAUDIBLE). 4 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, JUST THE -- NOT THE LAST ONE, 5 BUT THE ONE BEFORE THAT. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOTION. 8 IS THERE A SECOND? 9 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN I JUST MAKE SURE SHE'S GOT THE 10 LANGUAGE RIGHT? 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SURE. SURE. 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THAT 13 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SUPPORTS THE STUDENT SUCCESS 14 INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THOSE THROUGH THE CHANCELLOR'S 15 STUDENT" -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, NO. "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, 17 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SUPPORTS EFFECTIVE STUDENT SUCCESS 18 INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT THE COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY 19 PURSUED THROUGH THE CHANCELLOR'S TASK FORCE ON EQUITY AND 20 STUDENT SUCCESS." 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. THAT'S DIFFERENT. 22 THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING BECAUSE -- MAY I? 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TO ME THAT SOUNDS AS THOUGH 25 WE ARE STILL PICKING OUT OF THE STUDENT SUCCESS REPORT OCTOBER 27, 2011 270 1 HERE AND HIS RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH IS NOT WHAT I WAS 2 SAYING. I WAS SAYING THAT WE ARE OPPOSED TO THESE 3 RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN SUCCESS EFFORTS -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: CHANCELLOR, I DON'T THINK THAT 5 WHAT I JUST SAID WAS INCONSISTENT. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, NO. I AM NOT SAYING IT 7 IS. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: IT SUPPORTS EFFECTIVE STUDENT 9 SUCCESS INITIATIVES. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE 11 READ AS WE SUPPORT AMONG THESE THAT ARE IN THE 12 RECOMMENDATIONS -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: HOW CAN I SAY THAT IF THE VERY 14 FIRST RESOLVED IS "THE COLLEGE DISTRICT REJECTS THE TASK 15 FORCE FOR STUDENT SUCCESS PROPOSALS?" 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I KNOW. BUT I AM JUST 17 SAYING THAT CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT MAYBE CCSF'S -- 18 MAYBE -- 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I KNOW, BOLDLY PURSUED -- THE 20 COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY PURSUED. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I'M SORRY. COULD YOU READ 22 IT AGAIN? 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: READ IT AGAIN. I THINK WE ARE 24 CONFUSED. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE BOARD OCTOBER 27, 2011 271 1 OF TRUSTEES SUPPORTS EFFECTIVE STUDENT SUCCESS 2 INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THOSE THE COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY 3 PURSUED THROUGH THE CHANCELLOR'S TASK FORCE ON EQUITY AND 4 STUDENT SUCCESS." 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. HOW ABOUT -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: "SUCH AS," HOW ABOUT THAT? "SUCH 7 AS," AS OPPOSED TO "INCLUDING" -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, NO. IT'S EARLIER THAT'S 9 THE ISSUE. 10 "THE DISTRICT" -- HOW ABOUT JUST SAYING, "THE 11 DISTRICT" -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THE BOARD. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE BOARD HAS PURSUED THIS 14 STUFF. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, BUT WE HAVE TO -- WE ARE 16 TRYING TO DECLARE SOMETHING SO IT'S -- BUT I DON'T KNOW 17 WHAT -- I THINK WHAT I WROTE INCLUDES YOUR SENTIMENT 18 BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT WE BOLDLY PURSUED IT. WE'VE ALREADY 19 REJECTED -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S THE FIRST PART THAT'S -- 21 TRUSTEE NGO: WE'VE ALREADY REJECTED FLAT OUT 22 THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: THE LAST RESOLVED IS WE SUPPORT 25 STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT WE OCTOBER 27, 2011 272 1 PURSUED, BOLDLY PURSUED, TO THE CHANCELLOR'S TASK FORCE ON 2 EQUITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS. 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE THE 4 "INCLUDING" IS PROBLEMATIC FOR ME. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: SO YOU CAN HAVE "SUCH AS." 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NOT BEFORE THAT. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: SUPPORTS EFFECTIVE STUDENT SUCCESS 9 INITIATIVES? 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE A 11 LOT OF -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: WE ARE GIVING UP THAT TERM NOW 13 TOO? 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I AM NOT SAYING GIVING UP 17 THAT TERM. I AM SAYING I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD FOCUS 18 ON THE SUCCESSFUL INITIATIVES THAT WE HAD AT CITY COLLEGE 19 OF SAN FRANCISCO IN TERMS OF ATTACHING THAT. BECAUSE I AM 20 BELIEVING THAT EVEN THOUGH WE SAY, WE REJECT, WE ARE 21 OPPOSED TO THAT WHEN YOU GENERALLY TALK ABOUT SUCCESS, 22 THAT'S GOING TO OPEN THAT DOOR FOR THEM TO SAY, OH, YOU 23 ARE SUPPORTING SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE IN 24 HERE. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WELL, THAT MEANS OCTOBER 27, 2011 273 1 REPUBLICANS WON ALREADY -- 2 TRUSTEE NGO: WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT -- WHAT 3 ABOUT HOWEVER? HOW ABOUT HOWEVER? HOWEVER -- BE IT 4 FINALLY RESOLVED, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, HOWEVER, SUPPORTS 5 EFFECTIVE STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES? 6 MEANING WE ARE NOT SUPPORTING THOSE -- WE 7 ALREADY SAY THAT. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I APOLOGIZE FOR 9 (INAUDIBLE) I WOULD JUST LIKE -- IF WE ARE WORKING ON 10 THESE CLAUSES, CAN WE ADD THAT S3? 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME 13 AFFECT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO DO 15 THIS. WE'VE RULED OUT THAT. I THINK WE HAVE TO COME 16 TOGETHER -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH 18 THIS. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE COMING TOGETHER ON -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: WHY DON'T YOU PROPOSE A 21 RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THIS IS MY LANGUAGE. 22 "FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 23 SUPPORTS EFFECTIVE STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES, INCLUDING 24 THOSE THAT THE COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY PURSUED THROUGH THE 25 CHANCELLOR'S TASK FORCE AND EQUITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS." OCTOBER 27, 2011 274 1 TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO 2 CHANGE? 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE REJECT -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE? 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY, I AM TRYING. I AM 6 TRYING. IT'S REALLY LATE. 7 WE REJECT THESE, AND WE SUPPORT WHAT CITY 8 COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY PURSUED ATTACHED IS THAT. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I THOUGHT WE WEREN'T (INAUDIBLE) 10 ANYMORE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, INSTEAD OF "SUCH AS" -- 12 I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS TRYING TO SAY. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: INSTEAD OF SAYING, WE SUPPORT 15 STUDENT SUCCESS SUCH AS, HE WANTS TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE 16 WAY STUDENT SUCCESS IS. THIS IS OUR VISION OF STUDENT 17 SUCCESS. THIS IS HOW YOU GET THERE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. HOW ABOUT THIS? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO 21 SAY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THAT'S FINE. 23 SO "THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SUPPORTS OUR VISION OF 24 STUDENT SUCCESSES INITIATIVES" -- 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 275 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- COMMA, "INCLUDING THOSE THAT 2 THE COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY PURSUED THROUGH THE CHANCELLOR'S 3 TASK FORCE AND EQUITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS." 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT OKAY? 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TO ME THAT IS OKAY? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: DID YOU GET THAT? 8 COUNSEL BATTISTE: PART OF IT. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 10 "BE IT RESOLVED, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES SUPPORTS 11 OUR VISION OF STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THOSE 12 THAT THE COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY PURSUED THROUGH THE 13 CHANCELLOR'S TASK FORCE ON EQUITY AND STUDENT SUCCESS." 14 NOW WHEN WE ARE SAY, "INCLUDING THOSE," WHAT I 15 MEAN IS THAT OUR VISION COULD INCLUDE -- 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: A BROADER VISION. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: -- INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE NOT 18 YET PURSUED. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AGREED. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT OKAY? DOES EVERYONE GET 25 THAT? OCTOBER 27, 2011 276 1 DID YOU GET THAT, LANI, MORE IMPORTANTLY? 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S MY AMENDMENT TO S2. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 7 PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU REALLY HAVE TO. DON'T STIR THE POT. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DON'T -- DON'T, FRED. 9 MR. TETI: GO FOR IT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE CLOSE. 11 MR. TETI: IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS, I 12 SUGGEST BEING AS STRONG AS POSSIBLE. AND INSTEAD OF JUST 13 SAYING, SUPPORT, URGE THE STATE CHANCELLOR TO CONSIDER 14 ADOPTING OUR VISION OF STUDENT SUCCESS. THANK YOU. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S FINE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S FINE WITH ME. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I LIKE THAT BETTER. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I LIKE THAT BETTER. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: DID YOU GET THAT? THAT'S A 20 FRIENDLY -- 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SAY IT AGAIN. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SAY IT AGAIN. 23 MR. TETI: "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT WE URGE 24 THE STATE CHANCELLOR" AND YOU COULD PUT IN THE NAME OR 25 WHATEVER "TO ADOPT OUR VISION OF STUDENT SUCCESS" -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 277 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHICH INCLUDES -- 2 MR. TETI: AS -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OF STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES. 4 MR. TETI: -- OR AS DETAILED IN -- I DON'T 5 REMEMBER THE REST. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SHE'S GOT IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FABULOUS. YOU DIDN'T STIR THE 8 POT, YOU ADDED SOME OREGANO. 9 MR. TETI: WELL, BASIL -- I'M A BASIL. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I LIKE STIR FISH SAUCE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: WHAT DO YOU HAVE THERE, LANI? 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: "BE IF FURTHER RESOLVED, WE 14 URGE THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TO ADOPT OUR VISION OF 15 STUDENT SUCCESS" -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, NO. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 17 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: URGES AND THEN -- WHAT DO YOU HAVE 19 AFTER THAT? 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: "URGES THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S 21 OFFICE TO ADOPT OUR VISION OF STUDENT SUCCESS 22 INITIATIVES." 23 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: I AM TRYING TO ABBREVIATE 25 THIS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE -- OCTOBER 27, 2011 278 1 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. NO. LET ME -- 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: -- TALKING AND -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: LET ME -- LET ME -- LET ME -- JUST 4 READ IT AGAIN, OKAY. 5 "BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 6 URGES THE STATE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TO ADOPT OUR VISION OF 7 STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT THE 8 COLLEGE HAS BOLDLY PURSUED THROUGH THE CHANCELLOR'S" -- 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- "TASK FORCE ON EQUITY AND 11 STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT AND STUDENT SUCCESS." 12 YES? 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: GOOD. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY? NO FURTHER COMMENT? 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE AMENDMENT, RIGHT? 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S THE ART OF COMPROMISE ON 19 THE AMENDMENT. 20 INGRID, DO YOU -- 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WAIT A MINUTE. I'M NOT SURE 22 THAT WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND ON THIS. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I SECONDED IT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 279 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WHO? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO AND TRUSTEE 3 JACKSON. 4 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY OR CAN WE 6 MOVE ON? 7 MS. WYNN: I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, GOD. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM ASKING. GO AHEAD THEN. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THIS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE -- 10 MS. WYNN: SORRY. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AMENDMENT? 12 MS. WYNN: INGRID WYNN, I HAD A QUESTION ON -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS -- 14 MS. WYNN: -- THE NEW WORDING THAT WE ARE USING. 15 WHEN WE ACTUALLY GIVE THIS TO THE STATE, ARE WE SAYING 16 WHEN WE ARE CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO AND IT'S COMING 17 FROM THIS BOARD AND OUR CHANCELLOR OR -- BECAUSE THAT 18 WORDING THAT WE REWROTE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 19 THING THAT I READ FROM SCOTT LAY IS LITERALLY SAYING, CITY 20 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO AND OUR CHANCELLOR, AND THIS IS 21 WHAT WE DID AS FAR AS OUR STUDENT SUCCESS, OUR EQUITY, AND 22 SO FORTH AND SO FORTH. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 24 MS. WYNN: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE 25 READING THAT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 280 1 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 2 MS. WYNN: THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 4 MR. FITZGERALD: DID YOU INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE 5 THAT YOU ALSO STRONGLY REJECT? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S STILL THERE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THAT'S STILL THERE. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, WE NEVER TOOK IT 9 OUT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE ARE DONE. 11 TRUSTEE FANG, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT 12 IT, THE ART OF COMPROMISE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): I WILL 14 ABSTAIN. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU ARE ABSTAINING, OKAY. 16 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 25 OKAY, IT PASSES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 281 1 TRUSTEE NGO: THE AMENDMENTS, GREAT. THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I THINK WE HAVE A STRONGER -- 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I AGREE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. I 5 THINK WE HAVE A MUCH STRONGER POSITION. 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, I AGREE. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I APPRECIATE IT. 9 OH, WE HAVE TO DO -- WE ARE NOT FINISHED. 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YOU HAVE THE WHOLE 11 RESOLUTION. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S RIGHT. WE ARE NOT DONE 13 YET. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE NOT DONE YET. 15 OKAY, BACK TO THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A MOTION 16 FOR THE RESOLUTION? 17 TRUSTEE NGO: IT WAS -- 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT WAS ALREADY MOVED. 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WE HAVE IT MOVED BY JEFF 21 AND -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT ON 23 THE MAIN MOTION. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, NOW IT'S TIME TO VOTE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OCTOBER 27, 2011 282 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE 2 ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE AMENDMENT -- OR THE 4 LANGUAGE. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OH, YEAH, THE LANGUAGE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WANT TO BE ADDED AS A 7 CO-SPONSOR. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: S2. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOU DID ALL THE WORK. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT'S FINE. IT'S OKAY. GO 11 AHEAD. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON, YOU WANT TO 13 BE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR? 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I'M SURE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU JUST 16 HEARD YOU SAY THAT. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHAT DID HE SAY? 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE SAID HE WANTED TO BE ADDED 19 AS A CO-SPONSOR. 20 ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU ABSTAINING AGAIN OR WHAT ARE 21 YOU DOING. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: AM I BEING ASKED TO -- 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE, 24 YOUR RECOMMENDATION. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: VOTE OR PERMISSION TO OCTOBER 27, 2011 283 1 HAVE ADDED AS A CO-SPONSOR. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. YOU ARE -- I'M SORRY. 3 YOU ARE A CO-SPONSOR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I THINK WHAT HE IS TRYING TO 5 SAY IS HE WANTS TO KNOW -- HE WANTS TO APPROVE TRUSTEE 6 JACKSON'S REQUEST TO BE A CO-SPONSOR. 7 IS THAT RIGHT? 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK THAT'S -- I 9 DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER DONE THAT BEFORE. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOU REJECTED. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WITHDRAW THAT QUESTION. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I MEAN IF YOU DON'T 13 WANT ME ON YOUR -- 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MY BONE IS TO -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S NOT GO THERE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I COULD VOTE, "NO." 17 AND IT WON'T GO NOWHERE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO -- 19 LET'S -- 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE VOTING ON THE MAIN 22 MOTION. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: THEN LET'S DO IT. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE AMENDED MOTION. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ON THE AMENDED MOTION. OCTOBER 27, 2011 284 1 TRUSTEE NGO: ON THE AMENDED RESOLUTION. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TRUSTEE FANG. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): DISAPPOINTED, 6 BUT AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 8 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 9 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 17 OKAY, NOW WE ARE DONE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: GOOD. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: EXCELLENT. I AM VERY HAPPY WE 20 DID THIS. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: CAN WE MOVE S4 NOW? 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, DO YOU WANT TO DO S4 OR 23 S3? 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: I THINK IT'S S3. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S3 IS KIND OF RELATED, RIGHT? OCTOBER 27, 2011 285 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO -- 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND THEN S4. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO, COUNSEL, CAN YOU READ S3. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IS S3 AS NECESSARY AS 6 S2. CAN I GO TO THE INSTITUTION -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I REQUEST THAT IT BE TABLED. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, LET'S READ IT INTO THE 9 RECORD FIRST. 10 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S3 IS 11 SUPPORT FOR CONTINUATION OF ACCESS ACHIEVEMENT 12 AFFORDABILITY, LOCAL CONTROL, AND KEEPING THE COMMUNITY IN 13 THE COMPREHENSIVE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO -- HOLD ON. 15 IS THERE A MOTION FOR IT, FOR S3? 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL MOVE IT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WILL MOVE IT. 18 IS THERE A SECOND? 19 A SECOND FOR S3? OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT FAILS 20 DUE TO A LACK OF A SECOND. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: S4. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S4 IS -- 23 COUNSEL. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S4 IS THE 25 SPECIAL RESOLUTION TO APPROVE TO INCREASE FEES FOR GED OCTOBER 27, 2011 286 1 TESTING $75 TO $110. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 IS THERE A MOTION FOR THIS? 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: MOVE S4. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 6 IS THERE A SECOND? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 9 DISCUSSION? 10 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE 12 ADMINISTRATOR EXPLAIN -- 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: HE HAD A CARD. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: BUT I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S 16 STILL HERE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IS A -- DID HE LEAVE? 19 IT'S THE GED GUY. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: JOHN KNOX. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THERE YOU GO. JOHN. 22 MR. KNOX: I'M SORRY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MR. KNOX. 24 MR. KNOX: HI, I'M JOHN KNOX. I WORK AT 25 JUVENILE PROBATION. FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS, I'VE RUN A GED OCTOBER 27, 2011 287 1 SCHOOL UP THERE. 2 FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, I'VE BEEN PUSHING THE 3 STAFF OF CITY COLLEGE GED TESTING CENTER TO INCREASE THE 4 COST BELIEVE IT OR NOT OF GED TESTING. NOW IT SOUNDS KIND 5 OF ABSURD FOR SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THE TEST 6 AND FOR THE STUDENTS TO WANT TO INCREASE IT. 7 THE REASON FOR INCREASING IT FROM MY STANDPOINT 8 IS THAT CITY COLLEGE IS A UNIQUE TESTING CENTER WITHIN 9 ITSELF. AND PART OF THE PROBLEM OF BEING UNIQUE IS THAT 10 EVERYONE IN OUR BAY AREA ACTUALLY COMES TO OUR SITE TO 11 TEST BECAUSE IT IS THE CHEAPEST SITE TO TEST AT. 12 IF YOU LOOK AT IN YOUR BULLETIN OF FACTS THERE, 13 THE HIGHEST TESTING CENTER IN OUR BAY AREA IS $200. AND 14 IN BETWEEN THAT, IT FILTERS TO 175 TO 150. IT GOES TO 15 UNBELIEVABLE NUMBERS OF SAYING THAT HOW CAN A COLLEGE ON 16 OUR LEVEL GRACIOUS AS YOU ARE TRYING TO BE TO THE GENERAL 17 COMMUNITY, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE THAT ACTUAL TEST 18 ARE AT TESTING CENTERS STUDYING AND THOSE SITES ARE 19 ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THOSE TESTS. 20 CASE IN POINT, MY AGENCY ITSELF, WE GET FUNDING 21 TO PAY FOR THE TESTING. SO PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE 22 ARE HAVING, AND A LOT OF AGENCIES ARE HAVING AS WELL, IS 23 THAT BECAUSE SO MANY OUTSIDERS ARE ACTUALLY COMING IN TO 24 TAKE THE TEST AT OUR SITE AT THE LOWER COSTS, THOSE 28 25 CHAIRS ARE NOT ENOUGH CHAIRS FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE A OCTOBER 27, 2011 288 1 TESTING DONE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY. 2 SO WITH THE NON-RESIDENTS COMING IN TO TEST, IT 3 BECOMES AN OFF SITE TO WHEREAS OUR STUDENTS AREN'T ABLE TO 4 TEST. GIVEN A POINT OF WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, CITY 5 COLLEGE WAS THE ONLY TESTING CENTER OPEN DURING THE 6 SUMMER. 7 OUT OF ALL THOSE AGENCIES YOU LOOK ON THE SITE 8 THAT LIST THERE, ALL THOSE SITES WERE CLOSED DURING GED 9 TESTING. CITY COLLEGE WAS THE ONLY ONE OPEN. TO GET A 10 STUDENT TO TEST WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE STUDENTS WHO 11 LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO. 12 AND THE REASON FOR THAT WAS ONE, BECAUSE OF 13 COSTS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF SAYING $75 TO 110, 14 YOU MAY SAY THAT, OH, HOW ARE THOSE LOW INCOME PEOPLE OR 15 THOSE MISFORTUNATE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PAY THE 110, TRUST 16 ME, IT CAN HAPPEN. IT WILL HAPPEN. 17 THE COLLEGE ITSELF -- THE STAFF AT THAT SITE 18 HAVE TRIED TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS TO MEET THE NEEDS FOR 19 THIS HERE. YOU ARE CONSTANTLY REASONING IN THE RED 20 BECAUSE IT'S NEVER GOING TO MAKE THE MONEY IT SHOULD BE 21 BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. I AM 22 NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD GO UP TO $200, BUT I THINK THE 23 110 IS A FAIR COST FOR IT TO GO UP TO. 24 THE SECOND THING ON THIS SAME LINE IS THAT PART 25 OF THE THING ALSO IS IF THE TRUSTEE BOARD WOULD SERIOUSLY OCTOBER 27, 2011 289 1 LOOK AT SAYING THAT IF SO MANY OUTSIDE PEOPLE ARE COMING 2 TO TEST THERE, WHY DON'T WE ALSO CHARGE A NON RESIDENTIAL 3 FEE LIKE MOST PLACES DO. 4 WHEN I TOOK PEOPLE TO GO TEST DOWN TO REDWOOD 5 CITY, I GOT CHARGED AN ADDITIONAL FEE FOR TESTING DOWN 6 THERE. SO I'VE GOT PROVEN FACTS OF KNOWING HOW THIS 7 ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE. 8 THE OTHER FINAL THING IS THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT 9 YOU WOULD TAKE ONE THOUGHT IN MIND. FOR THOSE PERSONS WHO 10 MISSED THE TEST, I THINK THAT A FEE SHOULD BE CHARGED FOR 11 THEM AS WELL AS WHEN YOU TAKE THE RETEST. IT'S $10 RIGHT 12 NOW. SO IF YOU FAIL A TEST, YOU'VE GOT TO RETEST. YOU 13 GOT TO CHARGE $10. 14 SO FOR THOSE PERSONS WHO MISS THE TEST, ONCE 15 AGAIN, I AM LOOKING AT THE LACK OF SEATING YOU HAVE FOR 16 YOUR ACTUAL GED. THE TEST IS GIVEN TUESDAY, THURSDAY, 17 FRIDAYS, MONDAY NIGHT, WEDNESDAY NIGHT. AND WHEN YOU 18 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SEATS THERE FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY TAKE 19 THE TEST AND PASS, WHETHER THEY ARE YOUNG PEOPLE OR OLDER 20 ADULTS, IT BECOMES A HARDSHIP IN A MUCH MORE HARDER WAY. 21 SO PLEASE CONSIDER IN LOOKING AT THE 22 RECOMMENDATION OF INCREASING THE FEE TO 110 AT LEAST. AND 23 ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF 24 OUTSIDERS TAKING THE TEST AT OUR SITE. THANK YOU. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. OCTOBER 27, 2011 290 1 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ALTHOUGH, I AM NOT IN 3 FAVOR OF INCREASING IT JUST CARTE BLANCHE FROM 75 TO 110. 4 I ACTUALLY DO LIKE YOUR IDEA ABOUT CHARGING THE 5 NONRESIDENT FEES. I THINK THAT -- IF THEY ARE DOING THAT 6 IN REDWOOD CITY, I THINK -- AND THAT'S LEGAL TO DO THAT 7 BECAUSE I MEAN I'VE TRIED TO DO THINGS FOR PEOPLE HERE IN 8 THE CITY AND THEN PEOPLE GOT ANGRY. 9 SO IF THAT'S OKAY, IF THEY ARE DOING THAT AND 10 CHARGING PEOPLE NOT FROM REDWOOD CITY OR FROM THE COUNTY 11 OR FROM THE DISTRICT ADDITIONAL MONIES, I THINK THAT IDEA 12 COULD HAPPEN, BUT I -- YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GET OVER THE FACT 13 THAT WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION, A VERY LONG CONVERSATION 14 ABOUT OPEN ACCESS AND THEN WE ARE ABOUT TO RAISE FEES 15 WHICH IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY DENY ACCESS TO 16 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR GED. AND, YOU KNOW, 17 ESSENTIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THEIR GED ARE PROBABLY THE 18 PEOPLE WHO COULD LEAST AFFORD TO PAY. 19 AND, YOU KNOW, IT GOES FROM DOUBLE DIGITS TO 20 TRIPLE DIGITS, AND SO I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL 21 STICKER SHOCK WHERE THEY ARE JUST -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT 22 LIKE IT'S THAT MUCH OF AN INCREASE, BUT LIKE THEY SEE IT 23 USED TO BE DOUBLE DIGITS AND THEN THEY SEE A TRIPLE DIGIT, 24 AND THEY ARE LIKE, WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE. IT'S OVER $100 25 NOW AND THAT MIGHT PSYCHOLOGICALLY PREVENT FOLKS FROM OCTOBER 27, 2011 291 1 WANTING TO PAY FOR IT. 2 SO I MEAN I LIKE THAT LAST IDEA ABOUT MAYBE 3 RESIDENTS BEING CHARGED DIFFERENT, BUT FOLKS WHO NEED 4 THEIR GED'S I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN ABSORB THIS, BUT I AM 5 OPEN TO LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DELIVER GED. 6 AVC MCKNIGHT: LINDY MCKNIGHT, VICE CHANCELLOR 7 STUDENT DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN LEGALLY DO 8 THAT. WE COULD LOOK INTO IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY 9 HARD TO ADMINISTER IT BECAUSE WE OFFER THE TEST IN A LOT 10 OF DIFFERENT SITES. WE ARE SHORT ON STAFF. 11 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE 12 ANTICIPATING ABOUT A $50,000 DEFICIT THIS YEAR. IT IS 13 CONTINUALLY GOTTEN LARGER WITH EACH INCREASING YEAR. WE 14 USED TO RUN IT ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO ABOUT A $15,000 15 DEFICIT. NOW WE ARE UP TO 50,000 BECAUSE WE ARE TESTING 16 MORE PEOPLE, WHICH IS A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE TESTING 17 MORE PEOPLE. 18 BUT GIVEN THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR BUDGET, WE 19 ARE FEELING THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO RAISE IT. WE WERE 20 VERY CONSCIENCE ABOUT PICKING 110 BECAUSE IT KEEPS US 21 STILL AT THE ABSOLUTELY LOWEST FEE IN THE BAY AREA. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: LINDY, CAN YOU STAY UP THERE FOR A 23 SECOND? 24 MAYBE YOU ARE NOT THE PERSON TO ANSWER THIS 25 QUESTION, BUT WHAT IS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS NUMBER. OCTOBER 27, 2011 292 1 IS IT GOING TO GET US TO ZERO NET OR -- 2 AVC MCKNIGHT: I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT BREAK 3 DOWN, BUT IF YOU NOTICE IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH HERE 4 THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND SERVICES THAT SORT 5 OF DIP INTO THE FEE. SO THE FEDERAL ORGANIZATION TAKES I 6 THINK 40 AND THEN THE GED TESTING SERVICE TAKES 20 AND 7 DEAN JENKINS, WHEN SHE WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT, SAID 8 THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COST IS CLOSE TO $100 JUST TO GIVE THE 9 TEST. 10 IF YOU MARK YOUR BUBBLES WRONG AND THEY GO IN A 11 BUBBLE IT, THEY CHARGE US. THEY CHARGE US, NOT THE 12 STUDENT, $10 FOR REBUBBLING. SO THERE'S ALL THESE LITTLE 13 FEES THAT ADD UP. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE 15 THAT YOU KNOW BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU'VE LEARNED BY NOW THAT 16 WE ARE VERY OPPOSED TO FEE INCREASES FOR STUDENTS. 17 AVC MCKNIGHT: ABSOLUTELY. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. 19 SO IF WE DO -- OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULDN'T BRING 20 THIS FORWARD TO US IF YOU THOUGHT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY 21 NECESSARY. SO I TAKE YOU AT YOUR WORD AND THAT YOU ARE 22 ACTING IN GOOD FAITH ON THIS. 23 BUT I WANT TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU PICK A NUMBER 24 LIKE THIS, THERE'S A RATIONALE BEHIND IT, AND IT MAKES 25 SENSE TO EITHER OUR OWN BOTTOM LINE OR FOR WHATEVER REASON OCTOBER 27, 2011 293 1 IT FITS IN WHATEVER KIND OF MARKET RATIONALE THAT EXISTS 2 NOW WHILE YOU ARE BALANCING ACCESS. AND I AM SURE YOU 3 ARE. 4 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS NUMBER -- I 5 WILL VOTE FOR IT IF YOU SAY THAT THIS NUMBER MAKES SENSE 6 FOR WHY WE ARE DOING IT. 7 AVC MCKNIGHT: AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVEN 8 WITH THIS NUMBER WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT A $10,000 DEFICIT. 9 SO THERE'S NO PROFIT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER. AND THERE'S NOT 10 EVEN REALLY A BREAKING EVEN. IT'S JUST CUTTING INTO THE 11 DEFICIT THAT CONTINUES TO RISE. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION IS -- 13 THE OTHER REASON IS THAT YOUR BASICALLY LIMITING SPACES 14 BECAUSE OF THE PRICE. AREN'T YOU BASICALLY TRYING TO 15 EQUALIZE THE DEMAND ACROSS THE BAY AREA, SO YOU ARE NOT 16 NECESSARILY LOSING STUDENTS TO TAKE GED'S YOU ARE JUST 17 LOSING THEM IN OUR FACILITY. THEY COULD STILL GO TO A 18 DIFFERENT PLACE THAT HAS A LOWER OR SLIGHTLY HIGHER 19 NUMBER. 20 AVC MCKNIGHT: WELL, THEY WON'T FIND A PLACE 21 WITH A LOWER NUMBER. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: IT WOULD STILL BE THE LOWEST, I 23 SEE. 24 AVC MCKNIGHT: UNLESS THEY TRAVEL. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THAT'S PART OF THE RATIONALE OCTOBER 27, 2011 294 1 TOO, RIGHT? 2 AVC MCKNIGHT: UH-HUH. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: MAKING SURE THE DEMAND IS MET IN A 4 PROPER WAY AND -- 5 AVC MCKNIGHT: YEAH, AND IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS 6 SINCE WE'VE RAISED IT. AND IT'S A LONG TIME. AND, YOU 7 KNOW, WE COULD RAISE IT A LITTLE BIT EVERY TWO YEARS OR 8 SOMETHING, BUT WE'VE KEPT IT LOW FOR AS LONG AS WE 9 POSSIBLY COULD. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND THEN YOU JUST SAID 11 THERE ARE ALSO SOME STUDENTS WHO CAN'T AFFORD THIS AMOUNT, 12 CAN QUALIFY FOR A WAIVER, RIGHT? 13 AVC MCKNIGHT: I'M SORRY. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: FOR A FEE WAIVER. 15 AVC MCKNIGHT: YEAH, WE -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: IT SAYS TO QUALIFY FOR A FEE 17 WAIVER, THE STUDENT -- 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: IT'S THE LOWER PRICE. 19 AVC MCKNIGHT: YEAH, WE HAVE A LOWER PRICE WHICH 20 WE ARE RECOMMENDING -- 21 TRUSTEE NGO: I SEE. 22 AVC MCKNIGHT: -- IS 60 AND -- 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY FREE 24 (INAUDIBLE). 25 AVC MCKNIGHT: YEAH, AND WE HAVE ABOUT HALF OF OCTOBER 27, 2011 295 1 THE STUDENTS THAT QUALIFY -- 2 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 3 AVC MCKNIGHT: -- FOR THE WAIVER. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. I'M SATISFIED. THANK YOU. 5 AVC MCKNIGHT: YEAH. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU TALK ABOUT THE FEES NOT 9 BEING RAISED FOR SEVEN YEARS. I THINK IF YOU HAD BROUGHT 10 TO THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, IT WOULDN'T HAVE PASSED BECAUSE 11 WE'RE ANTI-FEE INCREASE. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT IS SO HARD 12 TO LOOK AT THIS. AND I KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, BUT I AM 13 REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE STUDENTS WHO MAY BE TURNED AWAY 14 AS A RESULT OF THIS FEE INCREASE. 15 THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THOSE STUDENTS 16 WHO DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE FEE WAIVER AND THEY GO TO TAKE 17 THE TEST, I'M JUST WONDERING BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF THINGS 18 IN TERMS OF TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO MOST LIKELY 19 CAN'T AFFORD THIS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AND OTHER MEANS OF 20 GETTING MONEY IN ORDER TO TAKE THE TEST. 21 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M WONDERING IF IN 22 ADDITION TO FEE WAIVERS, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD LOOK AT A 23 SCHOLARSHIP OR MONIES TO HELP PAY FOR THE GED? 24 I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW I KNOW OUR FOUNDATION 25 DOES A WONDERFUL JOB IN TERMS OF BASIC SKILLS STUDENTS. I OCTOBER 27, 2011 296 1 LOOKED AT THOSE STUDENTS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET 2 THEIR GED AS STUDENTS WHO ARE AS NEEDY. 3 AND I -- THE IDEA CAME TO ME JUST WHILE I WAS 4 SITTING HERE, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT WITH THE FEE 5 INCREASE, WE ARE GOING TO TURN MORE STUDENTS AWAY. AND I 6 WOULD JUST LIKE TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE WAY TO SUPPORT 7 NEEDY STUDENTS. 8 AVC MCKNIGHT: OR AT LEAST TO OFFSET IT IN SOME 9 WAY, YEAH. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH, OKAY. 11 AVC MCKNIGHT: I MEAN IT'S TRUE. WE ARE 12 BALANCING THE DEFICIT AND ACCESS. AND WE DON'T WANT -- WE 13 DON'T LIKE TO LIMIT ACCESS. I MEAN IF THERE'S ANYWAY WE 14 CAN DO SOME FUNDRAISING OR HAVE SOME KIND OF SPECIAL FUND 15 TO OFFSET IT, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. I CAN LOOK INTO THAT. 16 I CAN'T PROMISE IT. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, I GUESS THAT'S THE REALITY 18 OF IT. 19 AVC MCKNIGHT: YEP. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL REAL 21 GOOD ABOUT SUPPORTING IT EITHER, SO THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PUBLIC COMMENT? 23 MS. SNEED: GOOD EVENING. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. 25 MS. SNEED: MY NAME IS JANE SNEED. I AM THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 297 1 CHAIRPERSON FOR THE TRANSITIONAL STUDIES DEPARTMENT THAT 2 HAS GED PREP CLASSES, ADULT BASIC EDUCATION, ADULT HIGH 3 SCHOOL DIPLOMA PROGRAM. 4 AND I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING WITH 5 ONE OF OUR TEACHERS IN THE GED WHO HAS A STUDENT, HAS 6 STUDIED WITH HER, AND WAS REFERRED TO TAKE IT, AND THIS 7 HAS HAPPENED AT SOUTHEAST. IT HAPPENS CONSISTENTLY AT 8 SOUTHEAST. AND THE STUDENT HASN'T BEEN COMING TO CLASS. 9 AND SHE SAYS, THE LAST COMMENT WAS I WILL COME BACK, AND I 10 WILL GO WHEN I CAN -- AND SHE HAS A WAIVER, THE $22 IT 11 TAKES FOR ME TO PAY. AND THAT LEVEL, THE FINANCIAL NEED, 12 THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH. A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST SIMPLY -- 13 THEY MAY BE READY TO GO, BUT THAT'S THE LAST THEY COME TO 14 SCHOOL. 15 AND SO THIS IS VERY SERIOUS FOR OUR PROGRAM. WE 16 NEED TO FIND A WAY FOR ALTERNATIVE FUNDING. 17 I THINK YOUR IDEA, DR. GRIER, WAS WONDERFUL TO 18 JUST HAVE A SET FUND FOR OUR STUDENTS AT CITY COLLEGE TO 19 HAVE IT COMPLETELY PAID FOR. SO I THINK MAYBE WE CAN WORK 20 ON THAT. 21 AND THEN IT JUST HURTS TO THINK THAT WE -- THAT 22 SOMETHING SO NECESSARY AND SO NEEDED FOR SO MANY PEOPLE TO 23 LIMIT THE ACCESS BY INCREASING THE FEES. I WOULD RATHER 24 SEE EXPANDING THE CENTER AND THE SERVICES MAYBE FOR A 25 SECOND TESTING CENTER. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND OCTOBER 27, 2011 298 1 THEN MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GO. 2 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN THE BASEMENT AT JOHN 3 ADAMS. IT'S NOT THE BEST LOCATION FOR ANYBODY TESTING. 4 IT SHOULD BE REALLY GOOD LIGHT. IT SHOULD BE REALLY GOOD 5 AIR. SO I THINK A LOT MORE CAN BE DONE FOR THE GED 6 TESTING CENTER HERE AT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO 7 BESIDES RAISING THE FEES TO LIMIT ACCESS. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: COULD I JUST FOLLOW-UP ON THAT 10 BECAUSE YOU GAVE US THE SCENARIO OF THE STUDENT WHO WAS 11 EVEN GIVEN A FEE WAIVER, BUT THEN DIDN'T SHOW UP. THE 12 REALITY ABOUT THESE STUDENTS IS THAT THEY HAVE MANY 13 PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH HAVING BABIES THAT THEY 14 NEED TO TAKE CARE OF. THEY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH 15 TRANSPORTATION. THEY HAVE PROBLEMS. 16 I MEAN IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING 17 IS THAT A PROGRAM THAT IS SUCCESSFUL WOULD BE A PROGRAM 18 THAT'S MODELED AFTER THE PROGRAM AT YGC. 19 YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE THIS, BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS 20 THE PERSON WHO RAN THE PROGRAM, IN ADDITION TO PREPPING 21 THE STUDENTS TO TAKE THE EXAM, WOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT THE 22 STUDENTS GOT THEIR ID. I MEAN THAT WAS A SERVICE THAT WAS 23 PROVIDED. TRANSPORTATION WAS ALSO PROVIDED. SNACKS WERE 24 ALSO PROVIDED. PERSONAL PHONE CALLS WERE. AND THE 25 SUCCESS RATE WAS REALLY HIGH. OCTOBER 27, 2011 299 1 NO, WE CAN'T DO ALL THAT, BUT IN ORDER TO ENSURE 2 MORE SUCCESS AND TO DEAL WITH THE REALITY OF THE 3 SITUATION. SO THAT'S MY RATIONALE FOR FINDING THIS REALLY 4 HARD TO SUPPORT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CAN I -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE STILL ON PUBLIC 8 COMMENT. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OH, OKAY. 10 MS. WYNN: HI, INGRID WYNN AGAIN. 11 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I AGREE WITH JANE. I WAS 12 THINKING THAT MAYBE INSTEAD OF INCREASING THE FEES THAT WE 13 CAN FIND ANOTHER FACILITY WHERE WE CAN DOUBLE THE SIZE. 14 INSTEAD OF 28, WE CAN HAVE IT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE 56 CHAIRS 15 OR EVEN ONE OF OUR HUGE CONFERENCE ROOM WHERE WE CAN 16 ACTUALLY USE IT WHEN A MAJORITY OF THE TIME IT'S NOT BEING 17 UTILIZED WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A SETTING WHERE PEOPLE 18 CAN COME IN AND BE ABLE TO TEST AND BE COMFORTABLE. 19 BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE LOOK AT 20 ANYBODY COMING BACK TO GET THEIR GED, FIRST OF ALL IT'S 21 HARD. AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO NOT ONLY TO COME AND GET 22 THEIR GED, BUT TO ALSO FEEL COMFORTABLE AND NOT HAVING TO 23 JUST HAVE THAT FEELING LIKE OH, MY GOD, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 24 IT OR LET THEM HAVE AN OPTION. MAKE THEM FEEL 25 COMFORTABLE, BUT HAVE A BIGGER SPACE. AND THAT WAY I FEEL OCTOBER 27, 2011 300 1 WE CAN LIKE DOUBLE FEE, RIGHT? 2 IS THAT AN OPTION? 3 BECAUSE INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF WE 4 ARE NOT GOING TO INCREASE IT, THEN THE 75 WHEN WE MULTIPLY 5 THAT, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE THE NUMBERS WE ALREADY HAVE, THEN I 6 STILL SEE -- ALL OF US IS STILL MAKING MONEY. SO IF IT'S 7 LOW AND WE'VE GOT OTHER PEOPLE COMING OVER AND THEY ARE 8 TESTING WITH US, WE STILL ARE KEEPING THE INCOME, BUT WE 9 ARE DOUBLING IT IF WE USE A BIGGER SPACE. JUST A 10 SUGGESTION. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 12 ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 13 OKAY, CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT. 14 I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. I HAVEN'T SAID 15 ANYTHING YET. I DON'T SUPPORT THIS. I UNDERSTAND FUNDING 16 ISSUES. I DON'T THINK RAISING THESE RATES IS GOING TO 17 PROVIDE A LOT OF FUNDING. ON OUR END, IT DOESN'T INCREASE 18 THE FUNDING ALL THAT MUCH. BUT ON THE STUDENT END, I 19 THINK IT IS A REAL HARDSHIP. PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A HIGH 20 SCHOOL DIPLOMA ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE INCOME SCALE IF 21 THEY HAVE A JOB AT ALL. 22 I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE THE LOWEST IN THE AREA 23 AS FAR AS PRICE GOES, BUT THIS REALLY IS NOT THE TIME TO 24 RAISE PRICES. I AUTHORED THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAD 25 AGAINST OPPOSING STUDENT FEE HIKE. THIS IS A STUDENT FEE OCTOBER 27, 2011 301 1 HIKE. I OPPOSE IT JUST AS MUCH AS OUR PER CREDIT. 2 PARTICULARLY, THE HIKE IN THE COST FOR PEOPLE 3 WHO GET A FEE WAIVER WERE MORE THAN DOUBLING IT. I JUST 4 THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH, AND WE SHOULD CONSIDER THIS AGAIN 5 WHEN THE ECONOMY PICKS UP AND THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT 6 BETTER FOR PEOPLE. BUT RIGHT NOW, I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO 7 THINK OF OUR STUDENTS FIRST. IF WE CAN FIND SOME OTHER 8 WAYS TO MAKE UP THE MONEY I THINK THAT'S FINE, BUT THIS IS 9 NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. 10 TRUSTEE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I HAVE A COUPLE OF 12 THINGS. BECAUSE I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE LYING 13 IF I SAID YOU GUYS COME BACK WHEN THE ECONOMY -- BECAUSE 14 THE ECONOMY IS NEVER GOOD FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A 15 GED BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A GED. 16 BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND JUST LIKE WE SAID IN 17 SPIRIT AND NOT JUST SAYING "NO," I MEAN ONE IDEA BECAUSE I 18 MEAN IT'S JUST ME THINKING AND PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT 19 TRUSTEE GRIER HAS SAID. YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A BASIC 20 SKILLS LUNCHEON, MAYBE IF WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE BASIC 21 SKILLS LUNCHEON, MAYBE 10 PERCENT OF THOSE PROCEEDS FROM 22 THE BASIC SKILLS LUNCHEON GOES TO THE GED TESTING JUST TO 23 OFFSET THE BALANCE -- I MEAN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME 24 POPULATION OF PEOPLE. AND SO MAYBE THAT WILL BE AN IDEA 25 JUST MAYBE APPROACH THE FOUNDATION WHEN THEY PUT ON THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 302 1 LUNCHEON, 10 PERCENT OF THOSE PROCEEDS GO TO THE, YOU 2 KNOW -- 10 PERCENT OF THE PROCEEDS GO TO, YOU KNOW, GED. 3 THAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE AND MAYBE THAT COULD HELP 4 DEFRAY SOME OF THE COSTS. 5 BUT, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE HERE, YOU KNOW, 6 THAT'S GROCERIES FOR A FAMILY. IT'S KIND OF BACKBREAKING 7 FOR FOLKS. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE 8 ALWAYS AGREED THAT THE GED TESTING SITE SHOULD BE MOVED 9 FROM JOHN ADAMS TO MAYBE SOUTHEAST CAMPUS WHERE WE HAVE 10 MORE OF A POPULATION THAT'S IN NEED OF THOSE SERVICES AND 11 YOU, A, WOULD GET MORE PEOPLE FROM THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD 12 AND FROM SAN FRANCISCO GOING TO THERE. 13 AND I MEAN IF YOU USE THE ALEX PITCHER ROOM, YOU 14 CAN PROBABLY FIT ONLY -- YOU CAN FIT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN 15 THERE TO DO THE GED TESTING. ALEX PITCHER FITS ALMOST 300 16 PEOPLE, SO IF YOU NEED MORE SPACE, LIKE I SAID, THE 17 SOLUTION IS ALWAYS SOUTHEAST BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAS A LOT 18 OF SPACE. SO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT HOUSING MORE PEOPLE FOR 19 GED TESTING, THE ALEX PITCHER ROOM IS ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE 20 TO DO GED TESTING. 21 AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE SOURCES 22 OF REVENUE, I WOULD STRONGLY -- AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO 23 HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I DO CARE ABOUT THAT. I 24 KNOW LINDY DOES A LOT OF AMAZING WORK, AND I DON'T WANT TO 25 DEVALUE WHAT SHE JUST SAID THAT SHE NEEDS THE MONEY. I OCTOBER 27, 2011 303 1 WOULD BE WILLING TO SITDOWN. 2 I KNOW JOHN HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 3 FOUNDATION AND SAY, CAN WE HAVE 10 PERCENT OF THE PROCEEDS 4 NEXT YEAR GO TO GED. SO I AM WILLING TO HAVE THAT 5 CONVERSATION BECAUSE I AM NOT IN TO JUST SAYING, "NO." I 6 DO WANT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION BECAUSE HAVING A 7 $50,000 DEFICIT IS NOT -- THAT'S GOING TO GROW. IT'S NOT 8 VERY GOOD. SO I DO WANT TO FIND THAT SOLUTION. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. I THINK WE OFFER THIS. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, WE CAN, BUT ONE OF THE 11 THINGS I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO AFTER WE VOTE AND I DON'T 12 KNOW IF IT'S ANY GOOD THAT WE VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW. I 13 WOULD REALLY LIKE TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF FINDING 14 MONEY TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE 15 ACTIVELY DONE THAT FOR A WHILE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: I MEAN I WOULD LIKE TO ACTIVELY 18 EXPLORE IT. JUST SITTING HERE I HAVE SOME IDEAS. AND THE 19 MODEL THAT WE WOULD USE IS THAT THE MODEL THAT THEY USE 20 FOR THE BASIC SKILLS PROGRAM. NOT AS BROAD AS THAT, BUT 21 WE CAN START WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY STARTED THAT 22 FUNDRAISING FOR THE BASIC SKILLS PROGRAM. AND THEY ARE SO 23 SUCCESSFUL. I REALLY THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO 24 WORK WITH US ON EXPLORING WAYS TO SUPPORT THE GED PROGRAM. 25 SO HOW DO WE DO THIS? OCTOBER 27, 2011 304 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE VOTE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE RIZZO, ONE LAST POINT. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS 5 BECAUSE I -- LOOK I DON'T LIKE FEE INCREASES. I DEFER TO 6 THE ADMINISTRATORS ON WHETHER THEY THINK THIS IS A RIGHT 7 AMOUNT AND WHY THEY ARE DOING IT. 8 I THINK IF THE BOARD IS SERIOUS ABOUT PURSUING 9 OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, INCLUDING ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES LOW 10 CAL OR SCHOLARSHIPS, I DON'T THINK NOTHING -- I DON'T 11 THINK ANYTHING PUTS PRESSURE ON US TO DO SO, EXCEPT FOR 12 MAYBE AN IMPENDING FEE INCREASE. OTHERWISE NOTHING 13 HAPPENS. I JUST DON'T THINK NOTHING -- 14 LOOK WE ARE ALL BUSY. THERE'S NO SENSE OF 15 URGENCY, UNLESS WE KNOW THIS FEE INCREASE WILL GO INTO 16 EFFECT JANUARY 1. IF WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING 17 TO HAPPEN WITH ALL THESE OFFERS. AND IN THE MEANTIME, THE 18 ADMINISTRATORS ARE TOILING AWAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 19 TO DO. AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEST THING THAT THEY COULD 20 COME UP WITH FOR NOW. 21 SO I DON'T SUPPORT FEE INCREASES, BUT I DEFER TO 22 THE ADMINISTRATORS ON WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST HERE. IF WE 23 ARE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE JUST SAID, THEN WE HAVE TIME TO 24 CLOSE IT. WE HAVE TWO MONTHS. SO LET'S GET SERIOUS ABOUT 25 IT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 305 1 I AM GOING TO VOTE "YES" WITH THAT CAVEAT. 2 THANKS. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: CHANCELLOR. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: AS VICE CHANCELLOR MCKNIGHT 6 POINTED OUT, THIS COST HAS BEEN INCREASING. AND I AM NOT 7 SURE IF WE PUTTING INTO THE BUDGET -- I AM NOT SURE WE ARE 8 BUDGETING FOR THE INCREASE. SO IF WE ARE SAYING THIS, 9 JUST REMEMBER THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LINE ITEM, NOT FOR 10 AS WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING IN $26,000, I BELIEVE, AND THEN 11 SEEING IT GO OVER BUDGET BY A LOT. WE ACTUALLY NEED TO 12 BUDGET WHAT THIS COST IS. SO THAT WE DON'T LATER COME 13 BACK AND SAY, OH, WE TOOK MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE 14 BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY AUTHORITY IN THE 15 BUDGET AT THIS POINT TO PAY 50 OR $60,000 FOR THIS WHEN WE 16 ARE ACTUALLY PASSING A BUDGET FOR THE $26,000 LINE IN 17 THERE. 18 SO I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR NOT INCREASING 19 THE FEES. I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR US BEING THE 20 LOWEST IN THE BAY AREA, BUT THAT $50,000 OR THE DELTA DOES 21 MEAN THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUT INTO A SITUATION THAT WE DO 22 HAVE TO CUT OTHER THINGS. AND AS LONG AS IT IS APPROVED 23 AS A BUDGET ITEM, I AM OKAY WITH IT. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE 24 ARE EXPENDING MONEY WITHOUT AUTHORITY IN TERMS OF 25 INCREASING THIS AMOUNT. THAT'S IT. OCTOBER 27, 2011 306 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. IS THERE ANY -- 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE -- 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE 4 EXPLICITLY -- 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- INCLUDED BECAUSE WHEN 7 YOU PASS A BUDGET, WE ARE NOT PUTTING IN THE AMOUNT THAT 8 THIS IS TRULY COSTING THE DISTRICT. WE ARE JUST SAYING, 9 OKAY, IT'S GOING TO BE 26,000. IT TURNS OUT TO BE 50,000. 10 THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO KEEP GOING UP SO THAT'S WHERE THE 11 PROBLEM IS. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT WE 13 SHOULD HAVE DEALT WITH THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR BUDGET 14 DISCUSSIONS. 15 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YEAH, I AM SAYING FOR THE 16 NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. 18 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE SHOULD DO THAT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 20 ALL RIGHT. I THINK IT'S 1:00 A.M. I REALLY 21 WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON. 22 TRUSTEE FANG. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): S4, AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OCTOBER 27, 2011 307 1 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 5 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 9 IT FAILS. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: ONE IN FAVOR. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S MOVE ON, PLEASE. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE COULD BRING IT BACK, 13 ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE PLAN IN TERMS OF -- 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST 18 THAT WE -- CAN WE HAVE THE CHANCELLOR CONTACT THE 19 PRESIDENT OF THE FOUNDATION AND SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF 20 KIND OF ATTACHING SOME OF THIS GED TESTING INTO THE BASIC 21 SKILLS LUNCHEON? 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: MAY I RESPOND. 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SURE. IT WAS A 24 QUESTION, SO YEAH. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE'VE ASKED THE FOUNDATION OCTOBER 27, 2011 308 1 TO RAISE MONEY FOR CERTAIN PRIORITY ITEMS. 2 ONE, TO HELP US WITH OUR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES. 3 THEY SAID THEY STRUGGLED TO DO THIS FEE. THEY HAVE BEEN 4 ABLE TO RAISE MONEY FOR SCHOLARSHIPS. THE BASIC SKILLS 5 LUNCHEON IS A SCHOLARSHIP LUNCHEON. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE 6 TO RAISE THE $1.6 MILLION FOR THE OSHER SCHOLARSHIP, A 7 SCHOLARSHIP TO A STUDENT. 8 AS THE REPORT INDICATED, WE ONLY RAISED 9 SOMETHING LIKE 400 AND SOME ODD THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR 10 CLASSES WHICH WAS OPERATIONAL. THEY'VE TOLD US 11 REPEATEDLY, DONORS DO NOT LIKE TO DONATE TO COLLEGE 12 OPERATIONAL STUFF. THEY PREFER TO GIVE SCHOLARSHIPS 13 DIRECTLY TO STUDENTS. 14 SO WE COULD ASK THEM, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY SAID 15 MANY TIMES, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO 16 WELL. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO WOULD THEY BE 18 WILLING TO FUND A GED SCHOLARSHIP? 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE 20 WILLING TO FUND SCHOLARSHIPS FOR STUDENTS. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 22 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE TROUBLE HERE IS THAT, 23 AS WAS POINTED OUT, MANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING 24 IN ARE COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE ARE ACTUALLY ACTING 25 AS A SUBSIDY FOR OTHER AREAS. SO I THINK WE SHOULD COME OCTOBER 27, 2011 309 1 BACK AND REVISIT THE NONRESIDENT. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN WE -- WE HAVE EIGHT MORE 4 RESOLUTIONS. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SORRY. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE EIGHT MORE RESOLUTIONS 7 AND THIS ITEM IS ALREADY OVER. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO IF WE COULD MOVE ON, THANK 10 YOU. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: S1. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S1, COUNSEL. 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S1 IS THE 14 EXTENSION OF MASTER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AND THE 15 SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT BOOKSTORE 16 AUXILLARY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, I BELIEVE YOU 18 PULLED THIS OFF OF CONSENT. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WILL MOVE IT. 21 IS THERE A SECOND? 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE 25 MAKE UP OF THE BOARD. OCTOBER 27, 2011 310 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHO IS ON THE BOARD OF THE 2 BOOKSTORE? 3 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 4 MR. NEWTON: GOOD EVENING. I'M DON NEWTON. I 5 AM THE MANAGER OF THE BOOKSTORE. AND I AM ONE OF THE 6 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 7 THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD IS THE VICE 8 CHANCELLOR FROM FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION. THE TREASURER 9 OF THE BOARD IS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. THOSE ARE EX 10 OFFICIO POSITIONS. WE HAVE VERONICA -- DR. VERONICA 11 HUNNICUTT ON THE BOARD. SHE'S AN APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVE 12 OF THE CHANCELLOR. WE HAVE MADELINE MUELLER ON THE BOARD. 13 SHE IS THE APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FACULTY. WE 14 HAVE ROBERT ARENAS, BOBBY, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE 15 ASSOCIATED STUDENTS AT OCEAN CAMPUS. AND KATIE GELARDI, 16 WHO REPRESENTS THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS AT THE OTHER 17 CAMPUSES. I THINK THAT'S EVERYBODY. THAT SHOULD BE 18 SEVEN. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AND HOW OFTEN DO YOU MEET? 20 MR. NEWTON: WE NEED TO MEET A MINIMUM OF ONCE A 21 YEAR. WE TRY TO MEET FOUR TIMES A YEAR. WE LAST MET 22 SEPTEMBER 29TH. WE NEXT MEET DECEMBER 5TH. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. AND WHERE DO I FIND YOUR 24 MINUTES OF ACTIONS TAKEN? 25 MR. NEWTON: I DO NOT KNOW. OCTOBER 27, 2011 311 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I THINK SCOTT DICKEY HAS THEM. 2 MR. NEWTON: PARDON? 3 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: (INAUDIBLE). 4 MR. NEWTON: WE CAN SUPPLY THE MINUTES. I HAVE 5 MOST OF THEM. SCOTT DICKEY, OUR ATTORNEY, HAS THEM. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ARE THEY PUBLIC? 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, THE ATTORNEY HAS THEM. ARE 8 THEY PUBLIC? 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THEY SHOULD BE. THEY'VE ALL 10 BEEN PUBLIC. 11 MR. NEWTON: WELL, YEAH, THEY ARE OPEN PUBLIC 12 MEETINGS AND THE MINUTES ARE PUBLISHED WITH EACH AGENDA, 13 BUT I DON'T HAVE A HARBOR OR PLACE OR A PAGE OR ANYTHING 14 LIKE THAT FOR THEM. ALTHOUGH I SUPPOSE THAT'S SOMETHING 15 WE COULD BEGIN, BUT I HAVE NOT DONE THAT. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR 17 YOU, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM RIGHT NOW. I 18 JUST WANT TO FIND YOUR MINUTES AND SEE WHO IS ON YOUR 19 BOARD. 20 MR. NEWTON: OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE A -- ME TO 21 PREPARE A SET OF MINUTES. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 23 MR. NEWTON: AND THEN -- 24 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IF THERE WERE 25 ANY ALLOCATIONS FOR ATTORNEY FEES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 312 1 MR. NEWTON: YES, THERE WERE. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: WHEN WAS THAT? 3 MR. NEWTON: I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT INFORMATION. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL TALK TO SCOTT DICKEY TOO 5 AND ASK HIM ABOUT -- 6 MR. NEWTON: THAT WOULD BE FINE. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: -- A RATIONALE FOR THAT. 8 BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF STUDENTS ON THE BOOKSTORE 9 AUXILLARY -- 10 MR. NEWTON: RIGHT. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: -- IS THERE -- I KNOW YOU HAVE ONE 12 PERSON TO REPRESENT OTHER CAMPUSES. 13 MR. NEWTON: THAT'S CORRECT. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: BUT IS THERE A SPACE FOR THE A.S. 15 PRESIDENT FROM EACH CAMPUS TO BE ON THE BOARD. 16 MR. NEWTON: NO, THERE ARE TWO STUDENT 17 POSITIONS. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 19 MR. NEWTON: ONE A MINIMUM OF ONE OF THOSE TWO 20 POSITIONS MUST BE FILLED BY SOMEBODY -- WELL, THERE'S TWO 21 POSITIONS. ONE MOST BE FILLED BY SOMEBODY FROM NOT THE 22 OCEAN CAMPUS. AND ONE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FILLED BY 23 SOMEBODY FROM THE OCEAN CAMPUS. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, SO I'M JUST -- 25 MR. NEWTON: TWO OF THE SEVEN VOTING MEMBERS ARE OCTOBER 27, 2011 313 1 STUDENTS. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. I AM JUST SAYING IS 3 THERE -- WELL, I WILL JUST ASK YOU ABOUT THIS OFFLINE, BUT 4 IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE MORE STUDENTS ON THE BOARD. 5 MR. NEWTON: WELL, IT'S A VOTING BOARD. AND 6 IT'S A CORPORATION, SO IT WOULD BE -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I UNDERSTAND. 8 MR. NEWTON: OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. 10 MR. NEWTON: THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 12 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 13 PUBLIC COMMENT? 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 25 OKAY, S1 IS APPROVED. OCTOBER 27, 2011 314 1 S6, COUNSELOR. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT, 3 MR. PRESIDENT, S6 IS THE ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND 4 CONCLUSIONS OF THE HEARING OFFICER AND THE RECOMMENDATION 5 OF THE CHANCELLOR FOR THE EXPULSION OF STUDENT NUMBER 6 W99153836. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 10 BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 11 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 12 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): I WILL 15 ABSTAIN. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 17 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? OCTOBER 27, 2011 315 1 S6 IS CARRIED. 2 COUNSEL, S7. 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S7 IS NO 4 COST TO THE DISTRICT OR THE DISTRICT'S EMPLOYEES PAY CARD 5 ADMINISTERED BY TFG CARD SOLUTIONS, INC. TO PROVIDE PAY 6 CARD SERVICES TO THE DISTRICT EMPLOYEES THAT ARE UNABLE OR 7 CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN DIRECT DEPOSIT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 9 IS THERE A MOTION? 10 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 13 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 14 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 15 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? 16 STUDENTS TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 19 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) OCTOBER 27, 2011 316 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 S7 CARRIES. 3 COUNSEL, S8. 4 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S8 IS THE 5 BOARD OF TRUSTEES DECLARATION OF SUPPORT FOR PROCEEDING 6 WITH PERFORMING ARTS CENTER PROJECT. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 10 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 11 I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, TRUSTEE MARKS SECONDED 12 IT -- OR CO-SPONSORED IT. WE BOTH FELT THAT IT WAS 13 IMPORTANT FOR THIS BOARD -- ITS CURRENT MAKE UP OF THE 14 BOARD TO GIVE THE GREEN LIGHT FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS 15 CENTER. A BOARD LONG AGO ALREADY -- HAS ALREADY APPROVED 16 IT, BUT I THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO APPROVE IT SINCE IT'S BEEN 17 SO LONG AGO. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ON HERE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT 19 WE DEFINITELY EITHER BY DECEMBER OR AT LEAST JANUARY NEED 20 TO GET A COMMUNITY MONITORING PROGRAM IN PLACE SO THAT WE 21 ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, LOCAL RESIDENTS HAVE ALL THE 22 OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO WORK ON THIS 23 PROJECT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON THAT PROCESS. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FURTHER DISCUSSION? 25 PUBLIC COMMENT? OCTOBER 27, 2011 317 1 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF S8? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 9 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 11 S8 IS APPROVED. 12 W1, COUNSEL. 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, W1 IS THE 14 AUTHORIZATION TO PURCHASE TITLE INSURANCE FOR THE BALBOA 15 PARCEL, AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $33,000. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A MOTION FOR W1? 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO MOVED. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOTIONED BY -- 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG; 21 SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 22 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 23 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 24 OKAY, TRUSTEE FANG. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 318 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF W1? 2 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 6 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 10 W1 IS APPROVED. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MR. PRESIDENT, DID WE DO 12 B2(B), B2(C)? 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, WE HAVE NOT. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: AND G1-13 WAS PULLED, AND 15 WE HAVEN'T DONE THOSE. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: IT WAS TAKEN OFF CONSENT. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: TAKEN OFF CONSENT, OKAY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THEM. 19 THE NEXT ITEM IS B2(B), COUNSEL. 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, B2(B) IS 21 THE AUTHORIZATION FOR ONE CONTRACT MODIFICATION TOTALING 22 $1,224,289 FOR SPECIAL SERVICES CONTRACTS AND CONSTRUCTION 23 CONTRACTS. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS 25 APPROVED BY THE FIT COMMITTEE. OCTOBER 27, 2011 319 1 IS THERE A MOTION? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: WITH RECOMMENDATION. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WITH A RECOMMENDATION. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 7 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 8 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 9 PUBLIC COMMENT? 10 TRUSTEE NGO: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 11 ARE NOT -- I KNOW WE ARE DOING -- IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE 12 ASKING THEM DO MORE WORK, BUT I WANT TO AVOID ISSUES WITH 13 CONTINUING MODIFICATIONS WITH ARCHITECTS WHO ARE 14 EXPERIENCED WITH CHINATOWN. 15 SO I AM SURE THAT'S SOMETHING ON THE COMMITTEE 16 MEMBERS CHAIR'S MIND. I UNDERSTAND AND AM CONFIDENT THAT 17 WE WILL WORK HARD TO AVOID THAT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, THE ISSUE HERE WAS THAT 19 THE DRAWINGS FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER ARE SEVERAL 20 YEARS OLD NOW. AND THEY NEED TO BE CHECKED FOR -- OR TO 21 BRING UP TO DATE FOR CURRENT MATERIALS AND THAT KIND OF 22 THING. SO THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DRAWINGS AND 23 UPDATE THEM. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS FOR. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: AND YOUR POINT WAS MADE VERY OCTOBER 27, 2011 320 1 EXPLICIT AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO 2 THROUGH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH REPEATEDLY WITH EHDD. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, WE GRILLED THEM ON THAT. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUR 8 QUORUM. SHE HAS TO GO IF WE DON'T PASS THE OTHER TWO. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WELL, LET'S VOTE ON 10 THIS. 11 PUBLIC COMMENT? 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL KNOWS IN FAVOR? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COUNSEL, B2(C). 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, B2(C) IS 24 THE AUTHORIZATION FOR TWO CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS TOTALING 25 A MINUS AMOUNT OF 3,175,393 FOR SPECIAL SERVICES CONTRACTS OCTOBER 27, 2011 321 1 AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE THAT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO, YEAH, WE ARE GETTING 4 $3 MILLION BACK, SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I WILL SECOND IT. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECOND 7 BY TRUSTEE FANG. 8 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 9 ALSO AT THE FIT COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 10 PUBLIC COMMENT? 11 OKAY, STUDENTS TRUSTEE. 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 14 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 22 IT'S ACTUALLY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT, BUT WE 23 WENT THROUGH IT PRETTY THOROUGHLY. 24 OKAY, WE HAVE -- THE LAST ONE IS G1-13. 25 IS THERE ANYWAY THIS CAN BE CONTINUED TO THE OCTOBER 27, 2011 322 1 NEXT MEETING? 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ABSOLUTELY. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: BECAUSE I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS 4 ABOUT IT -- 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THAT I RATHER NOT SPEND THE 7 TIME. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CAN WE -- I GUESS WE'LL HAVE A 10 MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE NEXT -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT -- 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: -- TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TO TABLE. 15 OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, TRUSTEE NGO 16 AND TRUSTEE JACKSON. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE TO TABLE TO THE NEXT 18 MEETING. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): ABSTAIN. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ABSTAINING, OKAY. 21 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 22 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSENT.) 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) OCTOBER 27, 2011 323 1 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: GOOD NIGHT. GOOD MORNING. 6 (TRUSTEE GRIER LEAVES THE MEETING.) 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: GOOD MORNING. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE JUST LOST OUR QUORUM. I 10 WOULD SAY -- I WOULD ASK THAT WE COMMENCE WITH THE REST OF 11 THE -- DISPENSE WITH THE REST OF THE AGENDA. WE ARE 12 REQUIRED IT ASK FOR A REQUEST TO SPEAK. SO I WILL ASK FOR 13 REQUEST TO SPEAK. 14 SEEING NO REQUEST -- OKAY, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO 15 SPEAK. 16 MS. WYNN: SORRY. I WANT TO SPEAK ON SHARED 17 GOVERNANCE. 18 IS THAT OKAY? 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 20 MS. WYNN: THANK YOU. 21 SO THE PROBLEM THAT I FIND WITH SHARED 22 GOVERNANCE IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW PAMPHLET 23 THAT JUST CAME OUT FOR OCTOBER 2011. AND IN THE SHARED 24 GOVERNANCE, IT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE 25 COUNCILS FROM ALL OF THE OTHER CAMPUSES. OCTOBER 27, 2011 324 1 FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, IT'S BEEN A 2 CONSTANT WITH AN OCEAN REPRESENT -- AN REPRESENTER FROM 3 OCEAN. ACTUALLY, HE'S FROM THE OCEAN COUNCIL. AND SO FAR 4 LOOKING AT THE WORD "SHARED GOVERNANCE," I BELIEVE IT IS 5 SUPPOSED TO BE A GOVERNANCE THAT IS SHARED AMONG, NOT JUST 6 ONE PARTICULAR CAMPUS, BUT FOR VARIOUS CAMPUSES THROUGHOUT 7 THE BOARD. 8 AND I DO UNDERSTAND IT'S LATE. I AM TIRED TOO 9 EVERYBODY, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE 10 IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE 11 ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO SHARE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS 12 THAT I'VE SEEN IN HERE WHERE IT SAYS, "SHARED GOVERNANCE 13 REVIEW," IT'S EITHER "YES" OR "NO" I WANT TO UNDERSTAND 14 HOW COME IT'S NOT INCLUDED TO WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE CAN 15 ALSO BE ON TOP OF THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL INSTEAD OF JUST 16 HAVING ONE PERSON THAT SAYS, THEY ARE THE REPRESENTATION 17 FOR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL BOARD. THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. 20 OH, ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM CLOSED SESSION. 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE 22 NO ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM CLOSED SESSION. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE 24 ARE ADJOURNED. 25 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 1:30 A.M.) OCTOBER 27, 2011 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. DATED: NOVEMBER 11, 2011 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 STATE OF CALIFORNIA