SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT MONTHLY MEETING OF THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES THURSDAY, AUGUST 25, 2011 CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO GOUGH STREET CAMPUS 33 GOUGH STREET SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA REPORTED BY: MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 4 THE HONORABLE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 5 6 DR. NATATLIE BERG 7 DR. ANITA GRIER 8 CHRIS JACKSON 9 MILTON MARKS III 10 STEVE NGO 11 JOHN RIZZO 12 LAWRENCE WONG 13 14 15 DR. DON Q. GRIFFIN, CHANCELLOR 16 LEILANI BATTISTE, GENERAL COUNSEL 17 JEFFREY FANG, STUDENT TRUSTEE 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 AUGUST 25, 2011 3 1 BE IT REMEMBERED THAT ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 25, 2 2011, COMMENCING AT THE HOUR OF 6:45 P.M. THEREOF, AT CITY 3 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO, 33 GOUGH STREET, SAN FRANCISCO, 4 CALIFORNIA, BEFORE ME, MICHELE M. SHEA, A CERTIFIED 5 SHORTHAND REPORTER FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE 6 FOLLOWING PROCEEDINGS WERE HELD: 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 AUGUST 25, 2011 4 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING 2 OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF CITY COLLEGE. 3 WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE -- OH, LET'S DO A ROLL 4 CALL. 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: ROLL CALL. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MR. CHANCELLOR. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MR. CHANCELLOR. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: OH, I AM SO SORRY. 9 TRUSTEE MARKS. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: HERE. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE NGO. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: HERE. 13 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: (NO RESPONSE.) 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE'S -- 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON, I 17 SHOULD SAY. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: (NO RESPONSE.) 19 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: PRESIDENT JOHN RIZZO. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HERE. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. NATALIE BERG. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: HERE. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: DR. ANITA GRIER. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: HERE. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: TRUSTEE STEVE -- NO, I AUGUST 25, 2011 5 1 ALREADY SAID, I BELIEVE. 2 TRUSTEE JEFFREY FANG -- STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY 3 FANG AND TRUSTEE LAWRENCE WONG. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESENT AND JUST FINISHED 5 ADDING CLASSES. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: HERE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 8 COULD WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF 9 ALLEGIANCE. 10 (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE RECITED.) 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OUR FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC 12 COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T -- I DON'T 13 HAVE ANY CARDS. 14 IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS COME TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 15 NOT ON THE AGENDA? 16 OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL 17 OF MINUTES. 18 DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 21 IS THERE A SECOND? 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: SECOND. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE MARKS. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS HAS, JUST FOR THE RECORD, HAS 25 STEPPED INTO THE ROOM AND IS HERE. WE DID ATTENDANCE. AUGUST 25, 2011 6 1 TRUSTEE MARKS: I KNOW. I WAS HERE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE 3 MINUTES? 4 NO DISCUSSION. 5 IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MINUTES? 6 SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- OR STUDENT 7 TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: (ABSTAIN.) 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: (ABSTAIN.) 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: (ABSENT.) 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THE MINUTES ARE -- 18 OPPOSED? 19 TRUSTEE BERG: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: PLEASE LET THE RECORD SHOW I AM 22 ABSTAINING SINCE I WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE LAST MEETING. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE BERG. 24 TRUSTEE GRIER: I ALSO WILL ABSTAIN BECAUSE I 25 WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING. AUGUST 25, 2011 7 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE GRIER. 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC 4 RESPONSE. 5 WHAT IS THIS AGENDA ITEM? THIS IS KIND OF 6 UNUSUAL. 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ALLOW VICE 8 CHANCELLOR GOLDSTEIN ON YOUR AGENDA AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 9 PUBLIC RESPONSE TO THE RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU WILL BE 10 CONSIDERING LATER THIS EVENING THAT ARE SUNSHINING 11 PROPOSALS FOR NEGOTIATIONS. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, I SEE. I SEE. OKAY. 13 SO IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT? 14 IT LOOKS LIKE NOT. 15 SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM VI, ADOPTION OF 16 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. 17 COUNSEL, WERE THERE CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTIONS 18 AGENDA? 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. 20 AS TO REVISED RESOLUTIONS, THERE ARE NONE. 21 AS TO ADDED RESOLUTIONS, THERE'S C1, WHICH IS 22 THE PROCUREMENT OF EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES, SERVICES, ET 23 CETERA, LESS THAN $3,000. 24 THERE'S RESOLUTIONS C2, THE PROCUREMENT OF 25 EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES, SERVICES, MORE THAN $3,000 -- EQUAL AUGUST 25, 2011 8 1 TO OR MORE THAN $3,000. 2 THERE IS S6, WHICH IS THE SAN FRANCISCO 3 COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT ADOPTING THE WRITTEN PROTOCOL 4 TO CLEARLY DELINEATE THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE AUTHORITY TO 5 FINANCIALLY ENCUMBER OR OTHERWISE LEGALLY OR FINANCIALLY 6 OBLIGATE THE DISTRICT TO THIRD PARTIES. 7 S7, WHICH IS THE EXTENSION OF THE CITY COLLEGE 8 OF SAN FRANCISCO/SAN FRANCISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT MASTER 9 AGREEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 31ST, 2011. 10 AND S8, SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE BOARD OF 11 TRUSTEES ENDORSING THE CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 1481, THE 12 PROPOSED OIL EXTRACTION FEE TO RESCUE HIGHER EDUCATION 13 INITIATIVE. 14 AS TO SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTIONS, THERE ARE NONE AT 15 THIS TIME. 16 AND AS TO WITHDRAWN RESOLUTIONS, THERE ARE NONE 17 AT THIS TIME. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: MR. PRESIDENT. 20 (TRUSTEE JACKSON ARRIVES AT THE MEETING.) 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE 23 PAST WHEN WE HAVE ADDED RESOLUTIONS, I DON'T KNOW IF THE 24 OTHER TRUSTEES GOT THE E-MAIL IN TERMS OF THE ADDED 25 RESOLUTIONS, BUT I DID NOT. AND HISTORICALLY WHEN AUGUST 25, 2011 9 1 RESOLUTIONS ARE ADDED AFTER WE RECEIVE OUR MAIL PACKAGES, 2 WE WOULD GET E-MAILS SAYING THESE ARE THE ADDED 3 RESOLUTIONS. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE WONG: AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE 6 OTHER TRUSTEES GOT IT OR NOT. SO I AM SEEING -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DIDN'T. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: I AM SEEING THESE ADDED 9 RESOLUTIONS FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT -- 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: -- WHICH IS UNUSUAL BECAUSE 12 HISTORICALLY, AS I SAID AT THE RISK OF REPEATING MYSELF, 13 WE ALWAYS GET THESE RESOLUTIONS IN ADVANCE BY E-MAIL IF 14 THERE ARE ADDITIONAL RESOLUTIONS. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THE ADDED RESOLUTION. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: THE ADDED RESOLUTIONS C1, C2, S6, 18 S7, AND S8. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 20 TRUSTEE WONG: THOSE ADDED RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE 21 JUST ITEMIZED BY LEGAL COUNSEL. WE DID NOT GET IT IN 22 ADVANCE. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THOSE WERE ADDED ON MONDAY 24 OF THIS WEEK. AND WE WILL TALK TO -- 25 TRUSTEE WONG: THEY SHOULD JUST BE E-MAILED. AUGUST 25, 2011 10 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I WILL TALK TO -- WE WILL 2 MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF IN THE FUTURE -- 3 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 4 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- GET THOSE OUT TO YOU BY 5 E-MAIL. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT. I 8 AGREE. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT WAS THE PRACTICE ALL THESE 10 YEARS. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SOMEONE HAS INADVERTENTLY 12 NOT E-MAILED THOSE RESOLUTIONS. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: I AM SURE IT WAS HARMLESS, BUT 14 STILL. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT 16 OUT. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: THANK YOU. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE -- 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH ANY 23 VIOLATION OF THE BROWN REGARDING THESE RESOLUTIONS, 24 CORRECT? 25 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO. AUGUST 25, 2011 11 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO, THESE WERE POSTED AS 2 REQUIRED. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO 5 APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA AS AMENDED. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 8 IS THERE A SECOND? 9 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 11 ANY DISCUSSION? 12 ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA? 13 ALL RIGHT. STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY "AYE." 16 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 18 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 24 OKAY, THE RESOLUTIONS AGENDA IS ADOPTED. 25 THE NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT ITEM AUGUST 25, 2011 12 1 AGENDA. LET'S SEE, THE FIRST ONES ARE THE B'S. IT LOOKS 2 LIKE ALL THE B'S ARE CONSENT ITEMS, B2-B5. 3 IS THERE A MOTION FOR B2-B5? 4 TRUSTEE BERG: SO MOVED. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE GRIER (SIC). 6 SECOND? 7 TRUSTEE BERG: NO, IT WAS TRUSTEE BERG. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: ARE WE ASKING IF WE CAN PULL 9 RESOLUTIONS BEFORE YOU DO THAT? 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, I GUESS SO. I FORGOT TO 11 DO THAT. I'M SORRY. 12 IS THERE A -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THE 13 B RESOLUTIONS? 14 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, B3. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B3, I'M SORRY. 16 IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? 17 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD LIKE TO PULL B5. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B5, OKAY. 19 OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD 20 LIKE TO REMOVE SOMETHING FROM THE B'S FROM THE CONSENT 21 ITEM? 22 OKAY, SO WE HAVE B2 AND B4. 23 TRUSTEE BERG, I ASSUME YOUR MOTION TO MOVE 24 STANDS UP. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. AUGUST 25, 2011 13 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A SECOND? 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TRUSTEE FANG. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, 6 PLEASE SAY "AYE." 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 15 B2 AND B4 ARE APPROVED. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, WE ALSO HAVE B6. 17 CAN WE DO B6 WITH THE C'S? 18 WE WILL DO THOSE TOGETHER. 19 IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE BOARD OR IN THE ROOM WHO 20 WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE B6, C1, C2, C3, C4 FROM THE CONSENT 21 AGENDA? 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF 23 B6-C4. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. THANK YOU. 25 IS THERE A SECOND? AUGUST 25, 2011 14 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND IT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 3 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 4 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 13 OKAY, B6-C4 ARE APPROVED. 14 WE HAVE HUMAN RESOURCES G1-13, H1-3 AND N1. 15 WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE ANY OF THOSE FROM 16 THE CONSENT AGENDA? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: MOVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR 18 G1-G13 -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE 20 WOULD -- 21 OKAY, SO TRUSTEE BERG. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: -- H1-3 AND N1. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: H1-3. 24 HOW ABOUT THE G'S? 25 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. G1-13, H1-3, N1. AUGUST 25, 2011 15 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, GREAT. 2 IS THERE A SECOND? 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE. 5 I THINK I HEARD FANG. 6 OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 16 G1-13, H1-3, AND N1 ARE APPROVED. 17 WE HAVE SPECIAL RESOLUTIONS S1, S2, S3, S4 ON 18 THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 19 WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REMOVE ANY OF THOSE FROM 20 THE CONSENT CALENDAR? 21 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? 22 ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE A MOTION. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MOVE FOR APPROVAL S1-S4. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WELL -- AUGUST 25, 2011 16 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WAIT. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEP. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YOU SHOULD -- S7 IS ON 4 THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S1-S4. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S1, S2, S3, AND S4. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WHY ARE -- OH, OKAY. 11 GOT IT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 13 FANG; SECONDED BY TRUSTEE WONG. 14 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 22 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 24 OKAY, THAT IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THERE'S W1. AUGUST 25, 2011 17 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THERE'S A W -- OH, I'M SORRY. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH, THAT'S CONSENT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: W1, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO 4 REMOVE THAT FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? 5 NO, IS THERE A MOTION? 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE TO APPROVE W1. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 8 IS THERE A SECOND? 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 11 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 12 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 19 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 21 W1 IS ADOPTED. 22 OKAY, DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE HAVE A REPORT ON 23 CCSF'S COMMITTEE ON REHABILITATION FROM CLARA STARR. 24 MS. STARR: GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES, 25 ADMINISTRATION, FACULTY, AND GUESTS. AUGUST 25, 2011 18 1 I HAVE THE REPORT OVER -- IF YOU DIDN'T GET A 2 COPY ON THE CONVICTION HISTORY PROGRAM FOR THE COLLEGE. 3 I REPORTED TO YOU IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, AND 4 I HAVE THE UPDATE. 5 THERE WERE FIVE APPLICANTS IN THE HIRING PROCESS 6 IN FEBRUARY. THREE OF THOSE APPLICANTS ARE NO LONGER IN 7 THE HIRING PROCESS. TWO APPLICANTS WERE DISQUALIFIED FROM 8 THE PROCESS. AND ONE APPLICANT WAS NOT SELECTED FOR THE 9 COMMITTEE FOR AN INTERVIEW. 10 TWO APPLICANTS ARE STILL IN THE HIRING PROCESS. 11 ONE APPLICANT WAS SELECTED FOR A PART-TIME POOL. AND ONE 12 APPLICANT REMAINS IN THE HIRING PROCESS WHEN THE POSITION 13 STARTS. 14 AND THEN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM FOR THIS PERIOD 15 RIGHT NOW FROM FEBRUARY 11 TO SEPTEMBER 24, WE HAVE ONE 16 FACULTY AND ONE CLASSIFIED THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR 17 POSITIONS. 18 AND IF YOU LOOK ON THE BACK SIDE, I THINK I 19 MENTIONED IN FEBRUARY THAT THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE 20 MATERIAL REMOVED FROM YOUR RECORD, SOMETIMES IT'S STILL 21 THERE. SO A LOT OF APPLICANTS CHECK THE BOX "NO" THAT 22 THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONVICTIONS, AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH 23 THE PROCESS, AND THEN ONCE THEY'RE HIRED, WE FIND OUT 24 AFTER WE GET THE FINGERPRINTS THAT THERE IS SOME 25 DIFFICULTY ON THEIR RECORD. SO WE HAVE TO CALL THEM IN AUGUST 25, 2011 19 1 AND DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM. AND IN THE PAST, THEY'VE 2 PROVEN THAT THEY HAVE MADE THE ATTEMPTS TO GET THAT 3 REMOVED, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS TOTALLY REMOVED FROM THEIR 4 RECORD. 5 SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HIRED PEOPLE, 6 AND THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN SECOND CHANCES. BUT IT'S NOT THE 7 PROCESS THAT THE BOARD EXPECTED BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR 8 APPLICANTS FILL OUT THE FORM. SO WE ARE REVIEWING THAT 9 BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO STATE THAT ALSO WITHOUT 10 FEELING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PENALTY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: VERY GOOD. 12 MS. STARR: DR. GRIER. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 15 MS. STARR: SORRY. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 17 I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. I HEARD WHAT YOU 18 SAID, BUT I AM JUST NOT CLEAR WHAT THE REQUEST WAS OR THE 19 PURPOSE FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I AM ALSO NOT CLEAR 20 ABOUT THE -- WELL, IT SAYS, THE PERIOD OF TIME. THIS IS 21 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR -- 22 MS. STARR: RIGHT. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- THE SCHOOL YEAR. 24 MS. STARR: THE BOARD ADOPTED A RESOLUTION 25 SEPTEMBER -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR, BUT I AM TO AUGUST 25, 2011 20 1 REPORT TO YOU TWICE A YEAR -- 2 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 3 MS. STARR: -- IN AUGUST AND IN FEBRUARY ABOUT 4 THE HIRING PROCESS. 5 THIS ALL CAME ABOUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A 6 PROCESS IN PLACE TO ALWAYS GIVE EVERYBODY A SECOND CHANCE 7 IF THEY'VE HAD SOME KIND OF CONVICTIONS ON THEIR RECORD 8 BECAUSE THE ED CODE HAS CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS AGAINST DRUGS 9 AND SEX. SO WE CAME UP WITH A PROCEDURE THAT WE APPLY 10 THAT PROCEDURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN APPLICANTS APPLY, 11 THE COMMITTEES DO NOT GET TO SEE WHETHER THEY'VE HAD ANY 12 KIND OF CONVICTION. THEY JUST APPLY THROUGH THE PROCESS, 13 AND THE ONLY PERSONS THAT GET TO SEE IT ARE THE ONES IN 14 THE HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICE THAT ARE DEALING WITH THAT. SO 15 A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. 16 AND SO AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS, IF THEY GET 17 TO BE A FINALIST, THEN THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THE BOARD TO 18 REVIEW IT IF THERE IS A DISCREPANCY. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU KNOW, I DO REMEMBER WHEN THE 20 RESOLUTION WAS VOTED ON. AND I DO REMEMBER THE PEOPLE WHO 21 CAME AND SPOKE TO THIS ISSUE. WHAT I DON'T SEE HERE, AND 22 MAYBE IT'S JUST FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME, IS IF IN FACT 23 THOSE PERSONS WHO APPLIED AND HAD CONVICTIONS ON THEIR 24 RECORD WERE EVER HIRED BY THE COLLEGE. 25 MS. STARR: RIGHT. ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 21 1 FORM, THERE IS A PERSON THAT WAS SELECTED AND HIRED BY THE 2 COLLEGE, BUT HE CHECKED "NO" INSTEAD OF CHECKING "YES," SO 3 HE DIDN'T YET TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE 4 ADOPTED. 5 SO WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE HIRE THE PERSON, HIS 6 FINGERPRINT CAME BACK WITH SOMETHING ON IT. AND AT THAT 7 POINT I HAVE TO CALL THEM DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION 8 WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR RECORD. AND AT THAT POINT HE 9 PRODUCED THAT IT WAS REMOVED FROM HIS RECORD, BUT IT'S NOT 10 REALLY EVER REMOVED. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: NO. IT'S NOT. 12 MS. STARR: IS THE CHIEF HERE? 13 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S NOT EVER REMOVED. 14 IF I MAY, FIRST OF ALL ARE WE REQUIRING THAT THE 15 CONVICTIONS BE REMOVED FROM -- TOTALLY FROM THE COMPUTER 16 RECORD? 17 MS. STARR: NO. WE ARE NOT REQUIRING THAT. 18 TRUSTEE WONG: BECAUSE THAT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. 19 MS. STARR: THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. 20 THAT'S WHY IF HE HAD CHECKED THE BOX "YES" -- 21 TRUSTEE WONG: RIGHT. 22 MS. STARR: -- THEN HE WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH 23 THE PROCESS THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 25 MS. STARR: BUT HE NEVER GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 22 1 PROCESS. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, OKAY. IT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT 3 IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. AND IF WE REQUIRED THAT, I DON'T 4 THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM. 5 MS. STARR: NO, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS 6 PROCEDURE. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 8 MS. STARR: YEAH. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: COULD I JUST ASK ONE FINAL 10 QUESTION, QUICK QUESTION, PRESIDENT RIZZO. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, PLEASE. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: THAT QUESTION IS COULD YOU GIVE 13 ME SOME IDEA OF THE POOL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE 14 PERIOD OF -- I GUESS THIS HAS BEEN IN PLACE LIKE THREE 15 YEAR, FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 16 MS. STARR: I WOULD SAY -- 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ABOUT FIVE MAYBE. 18 MS. STARR: ABOUT FIVE MAYBE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S EVERY FEW YEARS. 20 MS. STARR: FOUR OR FIVE. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: ABOUT THREE, OKAY, ALL RIGHT. 22 MS. STARR: SO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW -- 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: HOW MANY GET IN THE POOL? 24 JUST A ROUGH ESTIMATE. 25 MS. STARR: OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE HIRED AUGUST 25, 2011 23 1 THAT HAD PRIOR CONVICTIONS? 2 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO, HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU 3 HAVE -- 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: WHO HAVE -- 5 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- WHO HAVE APPLIED. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH, WHO HAVE APPLIED. 7 MS. STARR: THAT HAVE -- 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: YEAH, THAT FIT INTO THIS 9 CATEGORY. 10 MS. STARR: I'D PROBABLY SAY 20, 25. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND THIS IS NOT TOTALLY 14 RELATED TO CONVICTION, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A BILL IN THE 15 STATE AROUND CREDIT SCORES AND CREDIT CHECKS AROUND 16 EMPLOYMENT. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK DO WE DO CREDIT 17 SCORES AND CREDIT CHECKS? 18 THIS IS A BILL TO PROHIBIT YOU FROM DOING A 19 CREDIT CHECK ON SOMEBODY WHEN THEY ARE APPLYING FOR A JOB. 20 AND SO I WAS WONDERING, DO WE DO THAT? 21 MS. STARR: WE DON'T DO CREDIT CHECKS, EXCEPT 22 FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS, WE DO GET THEIR CREDIT REPORT. 23 WHEN WE HIRE POLICE OFFICERS, THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT 24 I KNOW WE DO GET THEIR CREDIT REPORT. WE DO CHECK THAT. 25 BUT THEY ALSO DO A PSYCHOLOGICAL. THE OFFICERS, THEY ARE AUGUST 25, 2011 24 1 NOT REGULAR EMPLOYEES. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. THANK YOU. 3 THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT AS WELL. 4 MS. STARR: OKAY. 5 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: THERE'S A REQUEST OF 9 DETERMINATION OF REHABILITATION, WERE DEEMED REHABILITATED 10 WERE OFFERED POSITIONS, SO DID THAT HAPPEN? 11 WERE THE THREE OF THEM -- WERE THE THREE OF THEM 12 IN THAT ORDER DEEMED REHABILITATED REQUESTED A 13 DETERMINATION OF REHABILITATION, WERE DEEMED REHABILITATED 14 WERE OFFERED POSITIONS? 15 MS. STARR: NO. FIVE APPLICANTS APPLIED. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 17 MS. STARR: IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE GOING? 18 AND THEN THREE OF THOSE APPLICANTS -- 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T CARE. SO WERE ANY OF 20 THEM DEEMED REHABILITATED? 21 MS. STARR: YES, SOME OF THEM HAVE GONE AND HAD 22 THEIR RECORDS CLEARED AND REHABILITATED. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. 24 MS. STARR: IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING ME? 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. AUGUST 25, 2011 25 1 MS. STARR: RIGHT. 2 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT THEY REQUESTED A 3 DETERMINATION OF REHABILITATION. 4 MS. STARR: FROM -- 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 6 MS. STARR: DID ANY REQUEST THAT? 7 NO, IT HASN'T -- NONE OF THOSE HAVE GOTTEN TO 8 YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN -- WHEN THE BOARD -- WHEN 9 THE APPLICANTS COME TO THE BOARD, THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE 10 FINAL PART OF THE INTERVIEW AND GET AND BE IN THE POSITION 11 OF THE FINAL INTERVIEW TO GO BEFORE THE VICE CHANCELLOR 12 AND THE CHANCELLOR. AND THAT'S WHEN THE BOARD WOULD DO 13 THEIR MEETING, THE REHABILITATION COMMITTEE. BUT WE 14 HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THAT. 15 WE HAVE HIRED PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN 16 REHABILITATED BECAUSE THEY CHECKED THE BOX "NO." AND SO 17 WE DIDN'T FIND OUT. BUT THEY WOULD HAVE COME TO YOU UNTIL 18 AFTER WE HAD ALREADY HIRED THEM. AND THAT'S WHEN I SAID I 19 HAD TO CALL THEM DOWN AND SAY, WHY DID YOU CHECK THE BOX 20 "NO," YOU SHOULD HAVE CHECKED THE BOX "YES" BECAUSE YOUR 21 FINGERPRINTS ARE NOW BACK FROM THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF 22 INVESTIGATION AND EVERYWHERE. AND THERE ARE SOME -- AND 23 THEN THEY SAY TO ME, I HAD THAT CLEARED UP. IT WAS 24 REMOVED FROM MY RECORD. 25 TRUSTEE MARKS: RIGHT. AUGUST 25, 2011 26 1 MS. STARR: BUT IN INSTANCES, IT'S REALLY NEVER 2 REMOVED -- 3 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S NOT. 4 MS. STARR: -- BUT YOU DO GET A PAPER THAT SAYS, 5 YOUR CLEARED, AND THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF YOUR RECORD. 6 TRUSTEE MARKS: BUT -- 7 MS. STARR: AND THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOW ME WHEN 8 THEY COME TO MY OFFICE. SO I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN TO SEND 9 THAT PERSON TO YOU BECAUSE THEY CHECKED THE BOX "NO." 10 SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS PAPERWORK, AND WE ARE 11 GOING TO CHANGE IT. WE DID NOT WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH A 12 BIG PROCESS WITH THE OUTSIDE COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAVE 13 REVISED LANGUAGE TO ALLOW THEM TO CHECK THE BOX "YES." 14 AND THEN GO THROUGH THE REHABILITATION COMMITTEE OF THE 15 BOARD. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: AND WHO IS ON THAT? 17 MS. STARR: YOU GUYS HAVE TO DECIDE THAT. I 18 HAVEN'T HAD TO TELL YOU TO DO THAT BECAUSE I HAVE NOT 19 BROUGHT ANYONE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. THANK YOU. 21 MS. STARR: OKAY. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 23 TRUSTEE WONG. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT 25 THAT THIS CAME UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO. I DON'T REMEMBER IF AUGUST 25, 2011 27 1 IT WAS JOHNNIE CARTER WHO PROPOSED THIS RESOLUTION, BUT 2 BASICALLY, IT WAS THE RECOGNITION THAT CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 3 FRANCISCO IS A PLACE FOR SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH CHANCES FOR 4 MANY PEOPLE, AND THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE EXCLUDING PEOPLE 5 WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF OFFENSES THAT HAVE BEEN 6 REHABILITATED. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS 7 RESOLUTION -- OR THE RESOLUTION THAT OCCURRED SEVERAL 8 YEARS AGO, PUT THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE. AND SO I THINK IT 9 IS A GOOD THING. I AM GLAD THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING UP. 10 IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE PEOPLE DO GO THROUGH 11 REHABILITATION PROCESSES, AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DAMNED OR 12 BRANDED FOR LIFE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 13 MS. STARR: OKAY. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 15 THANK YOU, MS. STARR. 16 WE HAVE NO SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. 17 I WONDER IF WE COULD TAKE JUST A COUPLE OF 18 RESOLUTIONS OUT OF ORDER. I WOULD LIKE TO DO P1 AND S7 19 OUT OF ORDER IF THE BOARD DOES NOT OBJECT. 20 TRUSTEE NGO: NO OBJECTION. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. SO LET'S GO TO P1. 22 COUNSEL, WHEN YOU ARE READY, IF YOU COULD READ 23 THE TITLE. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, I'M GETTING THERE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, I KNOW IT WAS AN AUGUST 25, 2011 28 1 UNEXPECTED CURVE BALL. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, P1 IS "TO 3 AMEND THE SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT POLICY 4 MANUAL BY ADDING PM 1.17 AUDIT COMMITTEE CHARTER." 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 8 SECOND? 9 TRUSTEE BERG: I WILL SECOND IT, BUT WITH A 10 CAVEAT THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE AN AMENDMENT -- 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: -- TO THIS. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SECONDED, A CAVEATED 14 SECOND FROM TRUSTEE BERG. 15 TRUSTEE BERG: SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE 16 AMENDMENT IS SO THAT -- THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR. THE 17 RESOLUTION IS ON THE FLOOR, BUT I WANT TO MOVE TO AMEND. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. I HAVE PROPOSED AN 19 AMENDMENT TO THE -- WHAT WOULD BE POLICY MANUAL 1.17 TO 20 PLACE IN THE "PURPOSE" SECTION, THE SENTENCE -- IT COULD 21 ALSO BE IN THE "AUTHORITY" SECTION. I DON'T HAVE A STRONG 22 FEELING. 23 BUT THE SENTENCE TO ADD WOULD BE, "THE AUDIT 24 COMMITTEE WILL NOT TAKE ACTION ON ACADEMIC MATTERS, EXCEPT 25 TO REFER THEM TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES." AUGUST 25, 2011 29 1 WAS THAT CLEAR? SHOULD I READ THAT AGAIN OR -- 2 TRUSTEE NGO: I WASN'T SURE IF YOU HAD THE FLOOR 3 OR DR. BERG HAD THE FLOOR TO AMEND, BUT IF -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I AM NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: OH, I SEE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE CHAIR CAN'T PROPOSE -- 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OH. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AN AMENDMENT, BUT I AM 9 READING WHAT I HAD -- I SENT AROUND TO DR. BERG AND 10 POSSIBLY YOU -- 11 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- EARLIER TODAY, IN CASE 13 PEOPLE HAD NOT HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN. I WILL -- SOMEBODY 14 CAN MOVE THAT OR NOT MOVE THAT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: I WOULD MOVE IT. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU WILL MOVE IT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: WOULD YOU REPEAT IT, PLEASE, I 21 DIDN'T GET THE WHOLE THING. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CERTAINLY, "THE AUDIT 23 COMMITTEE WILL NOT TAKE ACTION ON ACADEMIC MATTERS, EXCEPT 24 TO REFER THEM TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES." 25 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN YOU CLARIFY AGAIN WHERE AUGUST 25, 2011 30 1 THAT -- JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE IT IS. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I THOUGHT IT COULD GO IN 3 THE "PURPOSE" -- 4 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- PARAGRAPH. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: THE LAST SENTENCE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN COUNSEL OR MR. PRESIDENT READ 10 THAT AGAIN. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL READ IT. 12 "THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WILL NOT TAKE ACTION ON 13 ACADEMIC MATTERS, EXCEPT TO REFER THEM TO THE BOARD OF 14 TRUSTEES." 15 TRUSTEE BERG: I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT FROM 16 "WILL NOT" TO "SHALL NOT." 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. WE ACCEPT THAT -- 18 TRUSTEE NGO: IT IS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: POINT OF INFORMATION, 20 WHAT'S THE -- I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE PAID MORE ATTENTION 21 IN ENGLISH, BUT WHAT'S THE POLICY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "WILL 22 NOT" AND "SHALL NOT?" 23 TRUSTEE BERG: CAN WE ADD "ACADEMIC AND 24 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS, EXCEPT TO REFER THEM TO THE BOARD OF 25 TRUSTEES?" AUGUST 25, 2011 31 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IS THAT JUST GOOD 2 GRAMMAR OR IS THAT JUST PROPER GRAMMAR OR IS THAT 3 ACTUAL -- 4 TRUSTEE BERG: WHAT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 5 "SHALL?" 6 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, THE "SHALL," 7 WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? 8 TRUSTEE BERG: "SHALL," IT BECOMES MANDATORY. 9 IT'S MORE PERSUASIVE THAN "WILL." 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO, TRUSTEE BERG HAD 12 PROPOSED ANOTHER CHANGE WOULD YOU -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: OTHER THAN THE "SHALL." 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OTHER THAN "SHALL" -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 16 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- I DIDN'T QUITE -- 18 TRUSTEE BERG: ADD TO -- LET'S SEE, "ACADEMIC 19 AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS" BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT 20 REALLY -- I THINK APPROPRIATELY COME TO THE BOARD OF 21 TRUSTEES. SO THAT'S MY AMENDMENT. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: FRIENDLY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: SO DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT? 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WAS MOVED, CORRECT? AUGUST 25, 2011 32 1 TRUSTEE BERG: IT WAS MOVED AND -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND SECONDED IT. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: WHO SECONDED IT? 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU MOVED IT AND TRUSTEE BERG 6 SECONDED IT. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: WERE THE AMENDMENTS -- 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE AMENDMENTS. 10 TRUSTEE WONG: -- SECONDED? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: THEY ARE FRIENDLY. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: THE MOTION ITSELF WAS MOVED, BUT 13 NOT -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE MOTION WAS MOVED. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: WHAT ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS? 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE AMENDMENTS WERE MOVED AND 17 SECONDED. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: AND THEY WERE ACCEPTED AS FRIENDLY 19 AMENDMENTS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. SO TO -- 21 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I? 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I JUST WANT TO READ IT 23 AGAIN -- 24 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- SO IT'S CLEAR. AUGUST 25, 2011 33 1 THE FINISHED ONE IS, "THE AUDIT COMMITTEE SHALL 2 NOT TAKE ACTION ON ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS, 3 EXCEPT TO REFER THEM TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES." 4 THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. 5 TRUSTEE MARKS: I DON'T GET IT, SO WILL YOU 6 EXPLAIN IT? 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL. 9 OKAY, SO AS CHAIR OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, WE 10 WENT OVER THIS LINE BY LINE THIS CHARTER SEVERAL MONTHS 11 AGO. AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS REFERRED TO POLICY COMMITTEE 12 WHERE IT WAS REVIEWED I THINK TWICE, THE SECOND TIME 13 EARLIER THIS WEEK. 14 THIS CHARTER ACTUALLY WAS NOT THE IDEA OF ANY 15 BOARD MEMBER, BUT A RECOMMENDATION FROM AN AUDITOR, AN 16 INTERNAL AUDITOR, AND ALSO OUR VOLUNTARY CPA, WHO 17 RECOMMENDED THAT TO GOVERN AND TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE 18 BOARD'S AUDIT COMMITTEE THAT THE BOARD ITSELF AT LARGE 19 ADOPT GUIDELINES AS TO WHAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MAY 20 REVIEW, AND WHAT IS IN ITS JURISDICTION WHICH I THINK 21 MAKES SENSE. 22 I BELIEVE WE WILL BE THE FIRST COMMUNITY COLLEGE 23 DISTRICT WHOSE BOARD HAS AN AUDIT COMMITTEE CHARTER 24 OUTLINING THESE, WHICH I THINK ARE COMMON SENSE GUIDING 25 PRINCIPLES. AUGUST 25, 2011 34 1 THIS CHARTER HAS BEEN THROUGHLY VETTED BY THIS 2 BOARD OF TRUSTEES AS IT SHOULD BE. NO OTHER COMMITTEE 3 HAS -- BOARD COMMITTEE HAS ANY GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT 4 GOVERN ITS CONDUCT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD OR A 5 BAD THING. BUT CERTAINLY NO COMMITTEE HAS ANY EXPLICIT 6 EXCLUSION TO REVIEW ANY SUBJECT WITHIN THE COLLEGE OF 7 JURISDICTION, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE. AND THAT EXCLUSION HAS 8 BEEN MOVED BY MYSELF AS AN AMENDMENT, WITH FRIENDLY 9 AMENDMENTS BY TRUSTEE BERG, TO ALAY SOMEWHAT I THINK ARE 10 CERTAINLY SOME CONCERNS RAISED BY FOLKS IN THE ACADEMIC 11 SIDE HERE AT THE COLLEGE THAT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MAY 12 SOMEHOW VENTURE INTO ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS ON 13 ITS OWN, ON ITS OWN VOLITION. 14 NOW I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THOSE FEARS 15 OR CONCERNS. I DON'T THINK THEY ARE REASONABLE, BUT I 16 DON'T THINK THEY ARE SO HOSTILE TO WHAT I BELIEVE SHOULD 17 BE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF THE COMMITTEE THAT I WILL NOT 18 ACCEPT THEM. 19 I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME ACADEMIC AND 20 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS THAT MAY FALL WITHIN THE JURISDICTION 21 OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. 22 FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THERE IS CRIMINAL CONDUCT OR 23 FRAUD, INCLUDING EXCHANGES OF MONEY OR ANYTHING OF VALUE 24 FOR GRADES OR CHANGES IN ANY TYPE OF WORKING CONDITION OR 25 CONDITION FOR STUDENTS OR GRADES FOR STUDENTS, THOSE AUGUST 25, 2011 35 1 CERTAINLY FALL WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF AN AUDIT COMMITTEE 2 AND, OF COURSE, THE BOARD. 3 THERE ARE SOME THINGS OBVIOUSLY THAT ARE CLEARLY 4 AND SOLELY ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE 5 FALL WITHIN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE'S JURISDICTION AND SHOULD 6 NOT BE PART OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, WHICH IS WHY I AM 7 OKAY WITH THIS AMENDMENT. I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE 8 AMENDMENT AND ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS IN A REASONABLE WAY 9 THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY SOME HERE AT THE COLLEGE AND, OF 10 COURSE, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THAT IS THE HISTORY OF THE 11 POLICY, THIS CHARTER. AND THAT IS THE HISTORY OF THE 12 AMENDMENT AS I UNDERSTAND IT. 13 AND I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE 14 NUMBERING. 15 AND, TRUSTEE BERG, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM 16 WRONG OR COUNSEL BATTISTE, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE MOVING 17 AWAY FROM THE PM NUMBERING. I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING BP 18 NUMBERING TO CONFORM WITH THE NUMBERING OF THE STATE 19 CHANCELLOR'S GUIDELINES. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU ARE RIGHT. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I THINK THAT PM SHOULD BE 22 CHANGED TO A BP. AND THAT NUMBER SHOULD PROBABLY REFLECT 23 THE NUMBERING IN THE SEQUENCE THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR 24 THIS -- 25 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, THAT'S FINE. AUGUST 25, 2011 36 1 TRUSTEE NGO: -- FOR THIS POLICY. 2 SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE 3 BOARD TO ASK THE DISTRICT TO NUMBER IT ACCORDINGLY. I 4 DON'T THINK IT DOES BECAUSE IT IS NOT A MATERIAL ISSUE. 5 SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION, I 6 WOULD URGE THE DISTRICT TO GO AHEAD AND RE-NUMBER PM TO BE 7 CONSISTENT WITH THE BP NUMBERING THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING 8 TO MOVE TO THESE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 9 AND WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES, I RECOMMEND AND URGE 10 YOU TO ADOPT BP ON ITS SECOND READING. THANK YOU. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 12 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, I -- FIRST OF ALL IN TERMS 13 OF THE BP/PM, YOU ARE RIGHT. WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE 14 THESE. WE ARE TRYING TO GET -- ALL OF THE POLICY MANUAL 15 HAS TO BE CHANGED ACCORDINGLY. AND IT HAS TO BE 16 RE-NUMBERED. AND THAT HAD BEGUN WHEN WE HAD GINNY RIEGEL 17 HERE. SHE HAD BEGUN CHANGING ALL THE NUMBERS TO MAKE IT 18 CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE MANDATE. 19 REGARDING -- I THINK THAT THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES 20 ARE WONDERFUL. I THINK THIS WAS A GOOD JOB. THAT YOU 21 HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN, YOU KNOW, IN HAVING GUIDING 22 PRINCIPLES. YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THAT'S THE ONLY COMMITTEE 23 THAT HAS THEM. BUT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS PERSUASIVE IN 24 THE COMMUNITY, IN THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY, SO I THINK IT IS 25 A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE GUIDING PRINCIPLES BECAUSE IT IS ALL AUGUST 25, 2011 37 1 OVER. 2 THE ONE THING I DO FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IS THAT 3 ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL ISSUES BELONG TO THIS BOARD. WE 4 WERE -- THAT IS ONE OF THE CHARGES THAT'S GIVEN TO US AS 5 BOARDS OF TRUSTEE, AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING I BELIEVE AN 6 AUDIT COMMITTEE SHOULD BE FOOLING AROUND WITH. 7 I THINK IT SHOULD COME PROFESSIONALLY TO THE 8 BOARD OF TRUSTEES, AND THAT WE SHOULD MAKE THESE DECISIONS 9 AS WE HAVE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS FOR AS LONG AS I 10 HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS COLLEGE, WHICH HAS BEEN 40 OR 11 50 YEARS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE PURVIEW OF THE BOARD OF 12 GOVERNORS. AND I FEEL STRONGLY -- OF THE BOARD OF 13 TRUSTEES. 14 AND I FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT SHOULD REMAIN IN THE 15 PURVIEW OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES BECAUSE WE ARE CHARGED 16 WITH ACADEMIC ISSUES. WE APPROVE THE ACADEMIC COURSES. 17 WE DISAPPROVE ACADEMIC COURSES. WE HAVE EVERYTHING -- IF 18 THERE IS ANY KIND OF ISSUE WITH A FACULTY PERSON, IT COMES 19 TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. IT DOES NOT GO TO THE AUDIT 20 COMMITTEE. AND THAT'S REALLY MY WHOLE THRUST OF THIS. 21 I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. I 22 THINK YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. AND I THINK THAT I LIKE 23 THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, BUT I JUST WANTED THIS REMOVED 24 FROM IT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. AUGUST 25, 2011 38 1 TRUSTEE BERG: OR PUT IN SUCH A MANNER THAT IT 2 IS VERY CLEAR THAT ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS ARE 3 NOT THE PURVIEW OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. THAT'S ALL. 4 OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I AM FINE WITH THE AUDIT 5 COMMITTEE CHARTER. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: ONE QUESTION. 8 IS THERE A REASON WHY IN THE SUBJECT LINE IT 9 SAYS, "AMEND SFCCD POLICY MANUAL BY ADDING PM 1.17 AUDIT 10 COMMITTEE CHARTER" HERE AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE IT SAYS, 11 "AUDIT COMMITTEE GUIDING PRINCIPLES." 12 IS THERE A REASON WHY IT'S TWO DIFFERENT -- TWO 13 DIFFERENCES. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. YEAH, THE AUDIT 15 COMMITTEE CHARTER IS KIND OF AN INDUSTRY IN THE AUDITING 16 INDUSTRY. IT'S AN INDUSTRY TERM. AND SO WE ARE KIND OF 17 USING THAT IN THE RESOLUTION PART AS KIND OF A GENERIC 18 TERM. 19 THE TITLE IN OUR MANUAL WE ARE CALLING IT 20 "GUIDING PRINCIPLES" BECAUSE I THINK FOR CLARITY BECAUSE 21 DURING -- AT COMMITTEE IT WASN'T CLEAR WHAT, YOU KNOW, A 22 CHARTER IS. WHAT'S A CHARTER? IS IT THIS? IS IT THAT? 23 SO WE THOUGHT IN OUR POLICY MANUALS WE WOULD 24 CALL IT "GUIDING PRINCIPLES," BUT WE KEEP THE TERM 25 "CHARTER" ELSEWHERE, NOT IN THE POLICY ITSELF, BUT, YOU AUGUST 25, 2011 39 1 KNOW, JUST TO HAVE IT ON RECORD THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING 2 ABOUT. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: OKAY. THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 COUNSEL. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST 7 WANTED TO MAKE ONE POINT AS TO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF 8 REFERENCES IN HERE TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OVERSEEING 9 INVESTIGATIONS. AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT USUALLY 10 THE FULL BOARD OVERSEES INVESTIGATIONS BECAUSE AN 11 INVESTIGATION MAY RESULT IN A LEGAL ACTION, SUCH AS A 12 REPORT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR 13 SOMEBODY MAY BE DISCIPLINED. 14 I JUST WANTED TO CAUTION THAT INVESTIGATIONS ARE 15 BEST SUITED FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD TO BE CONDUCTED AS 16 OPPOSED TO A COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD. SINCE ONLY THE BOARD 17 CAN TAKE A LEGAL ACTION OR AN ACTION AS LEGAL. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S RIGHT. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANY 20 REFERENCE TO OVERSEEING INVESTIGATIONS EITHER WE CHANGE 21 THE WORDING TO SAY, "RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD AN 22 INVESTIGATION" OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I -- WHEN WE HAD THE 24 CHURCHWELL INVESTIGATION GOING ON, WE HAD A COMMITTEE 25 OVERSEEING THAT INVESTIGATION. WE HAD -- AUGUST 25, 2011 40 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THAT WAS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. RIGHT. WE DID. 3 AND THE REASON WE DID THAT WAS BECAUSE THE BOARD 4 COULDN'T MEET FREQUENTLY ENOUGH TO DO WHAT NEEDED TO BE 5 DONE, AND THAT'S THE THOUGHT HERE. THAT IT WOULD PERFORM 6 THE SAME KIND OF FUNCTION AS WAS DONE THEN. 7 OBVIOUSLY, IT CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS. IT 8 CAN'T -- YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF LEGAL ACTION, 9 RECOMMENDATION, ET CETERA, WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BOARD. 10 I THINK IF THERE WAS SOMETHING OF THE SCOPE AND, YOU KNOW, 11 OF THE CHURCHWELL REPORT, YOU KNOW, AS IMPORTANT AS THAT, 12 THE BOARD WOULD CERTAINLY TAKE CONTROL OF IT. BUT I WOULD 13 KEEP THAT IN THERE. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I 15 THINK OVERSIGHT IS NOT A STRANGE THING FOR A COMMITTEE TO 16 DO. IN FACT THAT'S WHAT SOME COMMITTEES ARE DESIGNED TO 17 DO. 18 AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE 19 LANGUAGE THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT THE COMMITTEE ITSELF 20 COULD INITIATE SOME SORT OF SPECIAL INVESTIGATION A LA 21 CHURCHWELL OR ANYTHING ELSE -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: -- UNLESS THE BOARD AUTHORIZED IT. 24 I DON'T THINK IT HAS -- IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY 25 TO -- AUGUST 25, 2011 41 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: UNDER THE LAW. 2 TRUSTEE NGO: EXACTLY. THERE'S NO -- WE CAN'T 3 ISSUE AN RFP FOR AN INVESTIGATION. THE COMMITTEE ITSELF 4 CANNOT -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: -- IN ANYWAY. SO THERE'S NO -- 7 UNLESS THAT WERE TO OVERSEE ON THE LAST PAGE, PAGE 5, SAID 8 INITIATE OR, YOU KNOW, ISSUE FOR BIDDING AND UNDERTOOK, 9 THEN I THINK COUNSEL BATTISTE'S OPINION MAY BE A LITTLE 10 MORE APT, BUT IT DOESN'T. AND I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS 11 FINE AS ITSELF. 12 IN ANY CASE, IF THERE IS SUCH CONDUCT HAPPENING 13 AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, THE BOARD COULD ACT AS A WHOLE 14 ANYWAY TO ENSURE THAT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN, BUT I DON'T 15 THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND IT'S NOT PRESCRIBED IN 16 THE CHARTER ANYWAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, I ACTUALLY FIND SOME OF THE 19 LANGUAGE IN THIS A LITTLE TROUBLING. I THINK THAT THE 20 COMMITTEE IS EMPOWERED TO DO CERTAIN KINDS OF 21 INVESTIGATIONS, BUT THAT THOSE INVESTIGATIONS SHOULD BE 22 VERY SPECIFIC. AND THEY SHOULD BE DEFINED VERY 23 SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE INVESTIGATIONS -- THERE ARE ALL KINDS 24 OF INVESTIGATIONS. SO I THINK THAT WE -- I PERSONALLY 25 WOULD LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHICH KINDS OF INVESTIGATIONS. AUGUST 25, 2011 42 1 I MEAN THERE ARE A LOT OF INVESTIGATIONS TO EMPLOYEE 2 PROBLEMS THAT WOULD NOT BE THE PURVIEW OF THE AUDIT 3 COMMITTEE IN MY OPINION. THERE ARE JUST A LOT OF 4 INVESTIGATIONS. SO I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC SO 5 I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THE PLANS 6 ARE. 7 ALSO SOMETHING I FIND A LITTLE TROUBLING IS 8 "RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES RETENTION OF AN 9 INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, ADVISE THE COMMITTEE" BLAH BLAH BLAH, 10 "CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION OR ASSIST IN CONDUCTING AN 11 INVESTIGATION." 12 THESE ARE OVERARCHING. THEY ARE TOO BROAD. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. -- 14 TRUSTEE BERG: IF YOU GET IT MORE SPECIFIC SO 15 THAT WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, I'D FEEL 16 COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT THIS IS JUST -- 17 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I? POINT OF 18 ORDER. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HOLD ON A SECOND. YEAH -- 20 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN WE MOVE ON THE AMENDMENT AND 21 THEN -- 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, 23 TRUSTEE NGO. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AND IF THERE ARE OTHER 25 AMENDMENTS THAT TRUSTEE BERG MAY WANT TO RAISE, WE -- AUGUST 25, 2011 43 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE 2 ACT ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN WE CAN GO ON TO OTHER 3 PARTS -- 4 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- OF THE -- 6 TRUSTEE BERG: ALL RIGHT. FINE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- OF THE ISSUE -- 8 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S FINE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- JUST SO WE DON'T GO TOO FAR 10 UPSTREAM. 11 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT? 12 ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY 13 FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? 14 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE -- 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IT'S -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: IT'S BEEN A WHILE, CAN 18 SOMEONE READ IT AGAIN, PLEASE. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I CAN DO THAT. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE AMENDMENT IS IN THE 23 "PURPOSE" SECTION TO ADD "THE AUDIT COMMITTEE SHALL NOT 24 TAKE ACTION ON ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS, EXCEPT 25 TO REFER THEM TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES." AUGUST 25, 2011 44 1 ALL RIGHT. STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR VOTE. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE 4 AMENDMENT, PLEASE SAY "AYE." 5 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 7 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 13 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE ONE "NO" AND SIX 15 "AYES" SO THE AMENDMENT CARRIES. 16 OKAY, TRUSTEE BERG, WOULD YOU -- 17 SPEAKER UNKNOWN: (INAUDIBLE.) 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 19 TRUSTEE BERG, DO YOU HAVE -- I WILL GIVE YOU THE 20 FLOOR, AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC -- DO YOU 21 HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE OR -- TO 22 MOVE THIS FORWARD. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: OH, IN THIS -- 24 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 25 "AUTHORITY" SECTION. AUGUST 25, 2011 45 1 TRUSTEE BERG: UNDER "AUTHORITY." 2 TRUSTEE WONG: YES, THE RETENTION. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: I RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF 4 TRUSTEES THE RETENTION OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL -- BLAH, 5 BLAH TO ADVISE -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. 7 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 8 THAT REMOVED. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY. WHERE? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: "THAT RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD 11 OF TRUSTEES THE RETENTION OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL," WHICH 12 ISN'T THE AUDITORS -- 13 TRUSTEE NGO: I'M SORRY, TRUSTEE BERG, WHERE ARE 14 YOU ON THE PAGE? 15 TRUSTEE BERG: -- PURVIEW. ACCOUNTANTS, WHICH 16 ACTUALLY DON'T -- UNLESS THE ACCOUNTANT'S REPORT TO THE 17 AUDITING COMMITTEE. 18 TRUSTEE NGO: WHERE IS SHE? 19 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S PAGE 2 -- 20 TRUSTEE BERG: I'M SORRY. PAGE 2 -- 21 TRUSTEE WONG: -- UNDER "AUTHORITY." 22 TRUSTEE BERG: -- UNDER A BULLET UNDER 23 "AUTHORITY." 24 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: 2.4. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S THE FOURTH BULLET POINT. AUGUST 25, 2011 46 1 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, OR ADVISE THE COMMITTEE OR 2 ASSIST IN CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION. I HONESTLY DON'T 3 THINK THAT BELONGS TO AN AUDIT COMMITTEE. I MEAN WHAT 4 KIND OF INVESTIGATION. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? 5 IF YOU WANT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, I WOULD FEEL A 6 LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE. BUT THIS IS VERY, VERY 7 OPEN-ENDED, AND IT LEAVES US WIDE OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT 8 MIGHT COME UP. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WOULD SAY THAT ALL IT SAYS 10 IS RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THE BOARD OF 11 TRUSTEES COULD SAY, "YAY" OR "NAY" TO THAT RECOMMENDATION. 12 SO I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE ANY DANGER. 13 BUT ARE YOU MOVING THAT AS A MOTION OR TO STRIKE 14 THAT OR -- 15 TRUSTEE BERG: I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE THAT. I 16 WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE IT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I WILL TAKE THAT AS A 18 MOTION THEN. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM UNCLEAR WHAT "THAT" IS. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SHE WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE 21 BULLET POINT FOUR. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: IN ITS ENTIRETY? 23 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, ITS ENTIRETY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, UNDER "AUTHORITY." 25 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT THE SCOPE OF HER AUGUST 25, 2011 47 1 AMENDMENT? 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, I THINK SO. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I BELIEVE THAT IS IT. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT WILL BE PART OF THE 6 AMENDMENT, RIGHT. 7 TRUSTEE NGO: JUST THAT. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE THINGS. I 9 THINK WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE AS WELL I 11 BELIEVE -- 12 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- THAT YOU WANTED TO -- 14 TRUSTEE BERG: WELL, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE WE HAVE 15 TO VOTE ON. WE JUST DID, DIDN'T WE? 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE DID. WE VOTED ON THAT ONE. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. SO THIS IS ANOTHER 18 AMENDMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO REMOVE 21 THIS. THE REST OF IT IS OKAY. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A SECOND TO 23 THAT MOTION? 24 TRUSTEE WONG: SECOND. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG SECONDED IT. AUGUST 25, 2011 48 1 IS THERE DISCUSSION? 2 TRUSTEE NGO: IT JUST SAYS, "RECOMMEND." IT 3 DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY RETAIN. AND THE 4 FULL BOARD, AS YOU CORRECTLY STATED, TRUSTEE BERG, ONLY 5 HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ACT HERE. 6 AND IF THIS SAID TO ISSUE OR TO RETAIN, IF THERE 7 WAS NO -- IF THE FIRST SIX WORDS WEREN'T THERE, I THINK I 8 WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. BUT COMMITTEES RECOMMEND ALL THE 9 TIME. I MEAN IF WE ARE GOING TO START TELLING COMMITTEES 10 NOT TO RECOMMEND ANYTHING, THEY MIGHT AS WELL NOT DO 11 ANYTHING. IN FACT THAT'S WHAT ALL COMMITTEES DO IS 12 RECOMMEND TO THE FULL BOARD FOR ADOPTION. 13 SO I THINK I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH HOW -- I 14 DISAGREE WITH YOU RESPECTFULLY ON THAT LAST -- ON THAT 15 AMENDMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN THE 16 PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE, ANY COMMITTEE ACTUALLY TO 17 RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD ANYTHING. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE ANY FURTHER 19 DISCUSSION? 20 TRUSTEE WONG. 21 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. YEAH. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 24 WHAT I FOUND TROUBLING IS THE "RETENTION OF 25 INDEPENDENT COUNSEL." WELL THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL AUGUST 25, 2011 49 1 FREQUENTLY IS SOMEBODY WHO REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD 2 OF DIRECTORS -- THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. SO I DON'T KNOW 3 WHY YOU KNOW -- 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THIS IS RECOMMENDING THE 5 RETENTION. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THE AUDIT 7 COMMITTEE WOULD BE DOING THAT SINCE THIS IS A PERSON WHO 8 WOULD BE WORKING DIRECTLY FOR THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES. YOU 9 WOULD THINK THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WOULD HAVE THAT 10 RESPONSIBILITY. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RIGHT. BUT THIS DOESN'T GIVE 12 THE COMMITTEE THE ABILITY TO HIRE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: IT DOESN'T. BUT IT GIVES THE 14 ABILITY OF THE COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU DON'T KEEP 15 SOMEBODY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANY 17 COMMITTEE COULD RECOMMEND ANYTHING. A COMMITTEE COULD 18 RECOMMEND THAT WE BUILD A, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHTY-STORY 19 SKYSCRAPER. YOU KNOW, THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE TO ACCEPT 20 IT, THAT'S WHY I DON'T -- 21 TRUSTEE BERG: THEY DON'T. BUT IT'S HIGHLY 22 UNUSUAL THAT ANY COMMITTEE COMES TO A BOARD AND RECOMMENDS 23 THAT YOU GET RID OF SOMEBODY OR DON'T GET RID OF SOMEBODY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT WOULD BE HYPERBOLIC. 25 TRUSTEE BERG: I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND. BUT AUGUST 25, 2011 50 1 THIS IS THE REAL WORLD HERE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT 4 BULLETPOINT FOUR ON PAGE 2 SENDS A CERTAIN MESSAGE. IT 5 SENDS A MESSAGE. IT GIVES A IMPRIMATUR TO THE AUDIT 6 COMMITTEE BY RECOMMENDING IT IS SENDING A MESSAGE BEYOND 7 RECOMMENDING. IT'S THE SYMBOLISM BEHIND THAT 8 RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE IS IN FACT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS 9 TO BE ACTED UPON AND THAT SHOULD BE REALLY THE PURVIEW OF 10 THE BOARD. 11 IT'S DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF ANY COMMITTEE CAN 12 RECOMMEND ANYTHING. THIS HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE GRAVITAS 13 IN TERMS OF THE BULLETPOINT FOUR AND THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. 14 AND FOR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE THEN TO, WHICH IS SEPARATE 15 FROM OTHER COMMITTEES, TO SAY THAT WE RECOMMEND AN 16 INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION MAKES CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS. AND 17 I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE BOARD THAT SAYS THAT WE RECOMMEND 18 THERE SHOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. AND I THINK 19 THAT'S, IF I MAY, THE POINT OF TRUSTEE BERG'S CONCERN. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: THANK YOU. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 TRUSTEE NGO. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH, WE JUST DID THIS TWO MONTHS 24 AGO. WE JUST RECOMMENDED AN AUDITOR TO HANDLE OUR 25 INTERNAL AUDITING, THE COMMITTEE DID. AND THE BOARD AUGUST 25, 2011 51 1 APPROVED IT. NO ONE -- THERE WAS NOTHING GRAVE ABOUT THAT 2 ACT. WE -- A COMMITTEE ACTUALLY, NOT COMPOSED OF ELECTED 3 OFFICIALS, BUT A COMMITTEE OF STAFF AND ADMINISTRATORS AND 4 FACULTY RECOMMENDED AN AUDITOR TO THAT COMMITTEE THAT WAS 5 THEN RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD. 6 SO IF WE ARE HAVING CONCERNS ABOUT COMMITTEES 7 ABOUT ANY TYPE, RECOMMENDING ANYTHING TO THE BOARD, WE 8 SHOULD NOT JUST HAVE ANY COMMITTEES IN THE ADMINISTRATION 9 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. WE HAVE COMMITTEES ALL THE 10 TIME OPERATING TO OVERSEE BIDS AND RFP'S, AND THEN THEY 11 REVIEW THEM, AND THEN THEY RECOMMEND THEM TO THE BOARD ALL 12 THE TIME. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR A COMMITTEE TO 13 RECOMMEND THE RETENTION OF ANY OF THESE PROFESSIONAL 14 SERVICES TO THE BOARD. WE JUST DID IT TWO MONTHS AGO. 15 I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S SO GRAVE ABOUT THIS 16 LANGUAGE. IT DIDN'T RAISE CONCERN WITH ME, AND I DON'T 17 THINK ANYONE ON THIS BOARD WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 18 RECOMMENDATIONS TWO MONTHS AGO FOR THE NEW AUDITOR. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: CAN I? 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE MARKS. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CONCERN 23 ABOUT SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW? 24 I JUST DO BECAUSE IT EXTENDS BEYOND THIS 25 PARTICULAR ONE. AND I SEE OFTEN -- I PROPOSED THIS MANY AUGUST 25, 2011 52 1 YEARS AGO. AND I SEE THAT IT'S NOT BEING MET; THAT IT'S 2 NOT BEING -- THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF IT IS NOT BEING MET. 3 AND I DON'T THINK IT'S BEING MET TO THE DEGREE ABOUT WHICH 4 IT COULD BE MET. 5 SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? 6 I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A DATE OF REVIEW. I 7 JUST THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DATE OF REVIEW. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I BELIEVE THAT THE ACADEMIC 9 SENATE HAS REVIEWED THIS ACTUALLY. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: DOES ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT? 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, WE DO. WE HAVE CARDS 12 HERE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WAS WAITING FOR THE TRUSTEES 15 TO -- 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: OKAY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- FINISH. SO I WILL BRING UP 18 KAREN SAGINOR. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DID YOU HAVE A STATEMENT FIRST 21 OR COMMENT? 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: NO, PRESIDENT RIZZO. 23 I THOUGHT THAT TRUSTEE MARKS MADE A GOOD 24 RECOMMENDATION. THIS HAS BEEN AN ARGUMENT AND DISCUSSION 25 FOR A LONG TIME. AND SO IS THERE AN ANSWER TO WHY IT AUGUST 25, 2011 53 1 DIDN'T GO BEFORE THE SHARED GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE? 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT DID GO BEFORE THE ACADEMIC 3 SENATE. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: IT DID. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: YESTERDAY. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: AT LEAST IT'S NOT TODAY. 9 MS. SAGINOR: DID YOU MAKE AN AMENDMENT? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: I DID. AND IT PASSED ALREADY. 11 MS. SAGINOR: THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: THE FIRST ONE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE FIRST ONE WAS PASSED. THE 14 SECOND AMENDMENT -- WE CAN HEAR PUBLIC AMENDMENT ON THE 15 SECOND AMENDMENT, WHICH IS TO DELETE BULLETPOINT FOUR 16 OF -- 17 TRUSTEE WONG: PAGE 2. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IN THE "AUTHORITY" SECTION. 19 MS. SAGINOR: I WILL SPEAK TO THE MAIN MOTION. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE MAIN MOTION, OKAY. THANK 21 YOU. 22 SO IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS 23 AMENDMENT? 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, FURTHER DISCUSSION -- 25 ARE YOU COMMENTING ON THIS AMENDMENT? AUGUST 25, 2011 54 1 MS. PODENSKI: I PUT A CARD IN. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK -- 3 MS. PODENSKI: YES. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- ON THIS, OKAY. 5 FRANCINE PODENSKI. 6 MS. PODENSKI: THE -- I AM THINKING -- HEARING 7 THIS, I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF REMOVING IT OR 8 MAKING IT CLEARER BECAUSE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS PART 9 OF THE REASON THE DISCUSSION I THINK ABOUT THIS WHOLE 10 POLICY HAS -- OR IT'S A POLICY I GUESS OR PRINCIPLES OR 11 SOMETHING HAS BEEN SO DISCUSSED IS THAT INSTEAD OF THE 12 AUDIT COMMITTEE BEING A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WHICH IT 13 WAS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. IT IS NOW A COMMITTEE OF THREE 14 WHICH BASICALLY MEANS TWO ELECTED TRUSTEES ARE QUORUM. 15 AND SO TWO ELECTED TRUSTEES CAN GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE ON 16 THESE THINGS, WHAT TO RECOMMEND. 17 AND I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC, JUST AS A MEMBER OF 18 THE PUBLIC, IT BECOMES A CONCERN, NOT OF ANYONE ON THIS 19 BOARD, BUT JUST THE IDEA THAT OUT OF SEVEN ELECTED 20 OFFICIALS, NOW TWO ARE BEING GIVEN THIS CHARGE. AND IT 21 DOESN'T MEAN YOU COULDN'T RECOMMEND, BUT I THINK -- I 22 WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMENT THAT I THINK THAT'S WHY THE 23 CONCERN KEEPS BUBBLING UP. AT LEAST THAT'S MY OPINION. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 OKAY, FURTHER COMMENT ON THE AMENDMENT? AUGUST 25, 2011 55 1 TRUSTEE FANG. 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO 3 NOTE THAT ON THIS AMENDMENT TO STRIKEOUT THE BULLETPOINT, 4 I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER HERE IS OUR 5 OWN POLICY MANUAL BP 2220 PASSED IN '09 ABOUT THE 6 COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD. AT THE VERY END OF IT, IT DOES 7 SAY THAT THE FUNCTION OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO MAKE 8 RECOMMENDATIONS. SO IF THAT ALREADY EXISTS, IT'S AN 9 OVERARCHING THING. MAYBE STRIKING THIS ONE OUT WON'T BE 10 MAKING MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE 12 IN OR OUT. 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YEAH, BECAUSE EVERY 14 COMMITTEE IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ACCORDING TO THIS BP 15 HERE ALREADY. IT'S ALREADY IN THE POLICY MANUAL. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 17 FURTHER DISCUSSION? 18 WHY DON'T WE TAKE A VOTE THEN. 19 TRUSTEE FANG, YOUR RECOMMENDATION. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE, OKAY. 22 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT, SAY 23 "AYE" -- 24 TRUSTEE BERG: WOULD YOU MIND STATING IT, 25 PLEASE. AUGUST 25, 2011 56 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE AMENDMENT WAS TO DELETE 2 BULLETPOINT FOUR IN THE "AUTHORITY" SECTION ON PAGE 2. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. THANK YOU. 4 TRUSTEE MARKS: AYE. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: IS THAT A VOTE? 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU ARE VOTING "AYE." 7 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE MARKS IS AYE. 9 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: NAY. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT'S THAT? 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: WHAT ARE WE DOING? 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE VOTING ON WHETHER TO 15 DELETE -- 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: CAN WE COUNT THE VOTES? 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COUNT THE VOTES? 18 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES, I WOULD LIKE A ROLL CALL 19 VOTE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: A ROLL CALL VOTE. 21 OKAY, TRUSTEE MARKS RECOMMENDED A ROLL CALL 22 VOTE. 23 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 24 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE, AGAIN. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG. AUGUST 25, 2011 57 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG. 3 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON LEFT THE ROOM. 7 TRUSTEE MARKS. 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: I ALREADY SAID, "AYE." 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE NGO. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND I AM ALSO A "NO," SO THAT 12 MOTION CARRIES. 13 SO NOW WE ARE ON THE MAIN MOTION. 14 TRUSTEE NGO, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE GAVEL FOR A 15 MINUTE? 16 TRUSTEE NGO: IS TRUSTEE JACKSON HERE? IS 17 THERE -- ALL RIGHT. 18 (PRESIDENT RIZZO PASSES THE GAVEL TO TRUSTEE 19 NGO.) 20 TRUSTEE NGO: TRUSTEE BERG, I THINK THAT YOU HAD 21 ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION, AMENDMENT. 22 TRUSTEE BERG: I DON'T THINK SO. IT WAS THOSE 23 TWO. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: IS THAT IT? 25 TRUSTEE BERG: WE'VE ALREADY PASSED THEM. I AUGUST 25, 2011 58 1 COULD LIVE WITH THE REST OF IT. IT'S OKAY. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO I WILL TAKE THAT 3 BACK. 4 (TRUSTEE NGO HANDS THE GAVEL BACK TO PRESIDENT 5 RIZZO.) 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, SO WE ARE BACK ON THE 7 MAIN MOTION THAT MEANS. SO LET'S HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT 8 ON THAT IF WE COULD. THE MAIN MOTION IS THE ADOPTION OF 9 THE POLICY. 10 SO, KAREN SAGINOR. 11 MS. SAGINOR: KAREN SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE 12 PRESIDENT. 13 I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT THAT 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO HAS PROPOSED AND HAS BEEN ADOPTED. IN THE 15 CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ON THIS AGENDA ITEM OVER TIME HAS 16 BROUGHT TO MY MIND A SONG, I WON'T SING IT BUT THE CHORUS 17 IS IS YOU IS OR IS YOU AIN'T MY BABY. 18 AND A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD ABOUT THIS 19 POLICY IS DOES IT DEAL WITH ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL 20 MATTERS OR DOES IT NOT DEAL WITH ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL 21 MATTERS? 22 AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PHRASES THROUGHOUT IT 23 THAT LOOK TO ME LIKE, "YES," THIS DEALS WITH ACADEMIC AND 24 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS. ALTHOUGH IN THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND 25 IT PEOPLE HAD SAID, NO, IT DIDN'T DEAL WITH ACADEMIC AND AUGUST 25, 2011 59 1 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS. 2 AND BY PUTTING THIS LANGUAGE INTO THE TEXT OF 3 THE POLICY, THAT'S CLARIFIED IT QUITE A BIT. THERE WERE 4 SOME OTHER THINGS I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TIGHTENED 5 UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE LANGUAGE. BUT THIS IS REALLY A 6 VERY IMPORTANT PIECE TO US. 7 SO ONCE THAT YOU'VE SAID, THIS IS NOT DEALING 8 WITH ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS, THEN IT IS NOT OUR 9 BABY FOR THE ACADEMIC SENATE. 10 IN TERMS OF SHARED GOVERNANCE, RIGHT, YOU HAD 11 ASKED WHY DIDN'T IT GET SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW? 12 ACTUALLY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR IT 13 TO GET SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW AND GO TO THE COLLEGE 14 ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR INSTANCE. IF IT DOESN'T DEAL WITH 15 ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS, THEN IT DOESN'T REQUIRE 16 REVIEW BY THE SENATE. 17 SINCE IT HADN'T SAID THAT IT SHOULD GET SHARED 18 GOVERNANCE REVIEW, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PHRASING UP UNTIL 20 19 MINUTES AGO OR WHENEVER IT WAS, UP UNTIL THEN, WE WERE 20 SEEING THIS STUFF THAT'S LIKE, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE 21 ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS TO US, RIGHT, LEGAL 22 STUFF, THAT INCLUDES ALL OF TITLE V. SO WE DID REVIEW IT, 23 RIGHT. WE WEREN'T ASKED TO. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED 24 TO, BUT WE DID REVIEW IT. AND SO WE REVIEWED THIS AT THE 25 EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETING YESTERDAY AND APPROVED A AUGUST 25, 2011 60 1 RESOLUTION ASKING FOR A NUMBER OF CHANGES. AND YOU'VE 2 ALREADY MADE THE CHANGE THAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO US. 3 I WILL -- THAT'S SORT OF THE END OF MY REMARKS 4 ON THIS THOUGH. AND FIRST VICE PRESIDENT TETI WILL TALK 5 ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO 6 SEE, BUT YOU'VE MADE THE BIGGEST ONE FOR US. THANK YOU 7 VERY MUCH. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I HAVE ONE POINT OF 10 INFORMATION. WAS THIS THE FIRST -- I AM CONCERNED ABOUT 11 THE TIMING. WAS THIS THE FIRST ACADEMIC SENATE MEETING OF 12 THE YEAR? 13 MS. SAGINOR: YES, THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT -- 14 THE FIRST DRAFT OF THIS POLICY APPEARED WAS BACK IN MAY. 15 AND IT WAS TWO DAYS BEFORE OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, 16 MEANING WE COULDN'T AGENDIZE IT. 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 18 MS. SAGINOR: WE COULDN'T DISCUSS IT AT OUR LAST 19 MEETING OF THE YEAR. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE 21 HOW I WOULD BE CONCERNED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD A 22 RESOLUTION AND IT GOT -- YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS SENT A SERIES 23 OF RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE THE DAY BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING, 24 SO THERE'S NO TIME TO KIND OF RESPOND, YOU KNOW, 25 COLLABORATIVELY. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, AUGUST 25, 2011 61 1 WE NOW HAVE A 45 MINUTE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. 2 SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS DID THE BEST YOU 3 CAN, BUT IN THE FUTURE LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME MORE 4 KIND OF -- YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DON'T 5 WANT US TO SEND YOU STUFF LIKE LAST MINUTE. YOU KNOW, 6 THIS DOESN'T GIVE THE BOARD A LOT OF TIME TO EVEN REACT TO 7 SOME OF THIS. 8 MS. SAGINOR: SO OUR LAST MEETING OF THE 9 SEMESTER WAS, OF COURSE, NEAR THE END OF MAY -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 11 MS. SAGINOR: -- AND THAT'S WHEN THIS APPEARED. 12 AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY -- 13 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OF COURSE. 14 MS. SAGINOR: -- TO MEET -- 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OF COURSE. 16 MS. SAGINOR: -- OVER THE SUMMER. ACTUALLY, 17 HAVING OUR FIRST EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETING TODAY -- 18 YESTERDAY RATHER, WAS A LITTLE UNUSUAL. USUALLY, THE 19 FIRST EXECUTIVE COUNCIL MEETING IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A 20 LITTLE FURTHER, YOU KNOW, NOT THE FIFTH DAY OF CLASSES OR 21 WHATEVER IT WAS. IT'S USUALLY A LITTLE -- IT WOULD HAVE 22 BEEN NEXT WEEK, BUT WE STARTED A LITTLE EARLY. SO IT'S A 23 GOOD THING, SO WE WERE ABLE TO MEET YESTERDAY. BUT, OF 24 COURSE, WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE GIVEN YOU MORE TIME. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, NO PROBLEM. AUGUST 25, 2011 62 1 MS. SAGINOR: THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THANK YOU. 3 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 MR. TETI. 6 MR. TETI: FRED TETI, FIRST VICE PRESIDENT OF 7 THE ACADEMIC SENATE. I WILL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AS 8 PRESIDENT SAGINOR HANDS OUT COPIES. 9 THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT THE ACADEMIC SENATE 10 PASSED YESTERDAY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT -- THE VERY LAST 11 CLAUSE IS THE ONE THAT REQUESTS EXCLUDING ACADEMIC AND 12 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 13 APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO THAT EFFECT. 14 IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE SENATE DOES HAVE A FEW 15 OTHER CONCERNS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU CANNOT 16 TAKE ACTION ON THIS -- THINGS OF THIS CONTENT TONIGHT, BUT 17 WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO REGARD THE PRINCIPLES AS A LIVING 18 DOCUMENT AND PERHAPS FOR THE FUTURE CONSIDER THE RESOLVED 19 CLAUSE WITH THE FOUR BULLETS. 20 "THE CITY COLLEGE ACADEMIC SENATE RECOMMENDS 21 THAT ALL REFERENCES REGARDING SCOPE OTHER THAN RELATED TO 22 THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING FINANCIAL CONDUCT." 23 THAT'S AN EXCERPT FROM THE "PURPOSES." 24 "BE EXCLUDED FROM THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN 25 PARTICULAR THOSE WHICH INVOLVE TITLE V ACADEMIC AND AUGUST 25, 2011 63 1 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS." 2 AND THEN TRUSTEE RIZZO REQUESTED SOME EXPLICIT 3 WORDING FROM US IN THE "AUTHORITY" SECTION, "SEEK 4 FINANCIAL OR FISCAL INFORMATION AS REQUIRED FOR 5 EMPLOYEES." 6 IN THE "RESPONSIBILITY" SECTION, "THE COMMITTEE 7 WILL CARRY OUT THE FOLLOWING RESPONSIBILITIES" AND THEN 8 DELETE "WHICH INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO." 9 IN THE "COMPLIANCE" SECTION, "REVIEWING THE 10 EFFECTIVENESS OF ADMINISTRATION'S EFFORTS TO MONITOR 11 COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING FINANCIAL 12 CONDUCT," ET CETERA. 13 ALSO IN THE "COMPLIANCE" SECTION, "REVIEW THE 14 FINDINGS OF ANY EXAMINATION BY REGULATORY AGENCIES 15 GOVERNING FINANCIAL CONDUCT." 16 THANK YOU. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 18 MADELINE MUELLER. 19 MS. MUELLER: AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING, I'M HOPING 20 THIS WILL PASS WITH THE NEW CLAUSE. 21 WHAT WE HAVE JUST AS AN EXPLANATION AT THE 22 BOTTOM OF OUR RESOLUTION FROM YESTERDAY IS JUST A KIND OF 23 PROCEDURAL THING THAT HAPPENS. NOW I HOPE IN A GENERIC 24 SENSE WE'LL TAKE THIS, AND IT'S IN THE STATE CODE, AND 25 IT'S IN OUR LOCAL POLICY, THAT IF THE SENATE MAKES A AUGUST 25, 2011 64 1 RECOMMENDATION ABOUT SOMETHING DEALING WITH ACADEMIC AND 2 PROFESSIONAL MATTERS TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD SAYS, "NO" 3 AND SAYS IT, THEN THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER STEP ACCORDING 4 TO THE STATE CODE WHERE YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE REASONS IN 5 WRITING AND THEN THAT CAN BE ADJUDICATED AT THE STATE 6 LEVEL BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE STATE SYSTEM. 7 SO THAT WAS -- AS I SAID, I DON'T THINK THAT'S 8 GOING TO HAPPEN. I HOPE. I HOPE YOU VOTE FOR THIS AS 9 AMENDED. THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 11 ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? 12 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD? 13 OKAY, SO WE ARE VOTING ON THE MAIN MOTION TO 14 ADOPT THE POLICY. 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL, NO, NO, NO. 17 WHERE DO WE -- HOW DO WE GET TO MY POINT ABOUT 18 HOW WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE CLEARER THIS POINT OF 19 CLARIFICATION? HOW DO WE MAKE IT CLEARER ABOUT -- 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT THE ACADEMIC SENATE 21 REVIEWED IT. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES, BUT I MEAN I -- THIS WAS -- 23 THIS WAS STUCK IN. I CAN TELL YOU. THIS WAS STUCK IN BY 24 THE PREVIOUS CHANCELLOR BECAUSE IT TOOK CARE OF WHAT HE 25 THOUGHT WAS -- TOOK CARE OF THE ISSUE. AND IT DOESN'T, SO AUGUST 25, 2011 65 1 IT'S MISSING THE POINT BECAUSE I THINK I'M NOT MAKING 2 MYSELF CLEAR. 3 MS. SAGINOR: I AM NOT SURE IF THIS IS WHAT YOU 4 ARE SAYING, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR POLICY, YOU 5 COULD CHANGE THAT PIECE ON THE FRONT WHERE IT SAYS, "DID 6 IT GET SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW" AND YOU CAN SAY, "YES, IT 7 GOT SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW ACADEMIC SENATE YESTERDAY." 8 TRUSTEE MARKS: IT DOESN'T. IT DIDN'T GET 9 THE -- WELL -- 10 MS. SAGINOR: IT DID. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: -- IT DIDN'T. WELL, IT DIDN'T. 12 WELL, IF IT DID, THEN IT'S TOO LATE SO -- BECAUSE I 13 HEARD -- 14 PARDON ME? 15 MS. SAGINOR: SO YOU ARE SAYING IT SHOULD HAVE 16 GOTTEN SHARED GOVERNANCE REVIEW MONTHS AGO. 17 TRUSTEE MARKS: YES. YES. 18 MS. SAGINOR: OKAY. 19 TRUSTEE MARKS: WELL -- BUT WHY DIDN'T IT? 20 MS. SAGINOR: IT WAS SUMMER. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH. 22 MS. SAGINOR: RIGHT. WE CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE MEET 23 YEAR ROUND. 24 TRUSTEE MARKS: YEAH. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. AUGUST 25, 2011 66 1 IS THERE ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING YOU NEED TO ADD, 2 MR. TETI? 3 MR. TETI: I GUESS IT'S NOT ABSOLUTE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO, YOU 5 KNOW, PREVENT YOU FROM SAYING SOMETHING ESSENTIAL. 6 ALL RIGHT, WELL, CHANCELLOR, COULD WE ADD -- 7 COULD WE CHANGE THAT TO "YES" AND WITH YESTERDAY'S DATE. 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES. I WOULD RECOMMEND 9 THAT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DON'T THINK WE NEED A VOTE 11 FOR THAT, RIGHT? 12 IT'S HOUSEKEEPING. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE 16 PREVIOUS AMENDMENT TO VOTE ON THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU VOTED 18 AGAINST IT. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: WELL, I WILL MOVE TO 20 RECONSIDER THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 22 IS THERE A SECOND? 23 TRUSTEE NGO: SECOND. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: I DIDN'T HEAR THE -- I COULDN'T 25 HEAR YOU. AUGUST 25, 2011 67 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SINCE I WASN'T HERE AND 2 I DIDN'T VOTE AGAINST THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT, I HAVE A 3 RIGHT TO RECONSIDER THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT THAT WAS VOTED 4 DOWN. SO SINCE I WASN'T IN THE GROUP THAT VOTED 5 AFFIRMATIVE WHEN IT WENT DOWN, I CAN ACTUALLY VOTE -- I 6 CAN ACTUALLY MOVE TO RECONSIDER THIS, AND THE SECOND IS 7 NOT NECESSARY IN THAT. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: NO. ACTUALLY, NO. ACTUALLY, YOU 9 WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE VOTED ON THE WINNING SIDE OF THE -- 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO. NO. NO. AS LONG 11 AS I DON'T VOTE ON THE LOSING SIDE. AND SINCE I DIDN'T 12 VOTE, I DIDN'T VOTE ON THE LOSING SIDE. 13 TRUSTEE BERG: YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE VOTED 14 AFFIRMATIVELY IN ORDER TO CATEGORIZE -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE 16 CHECKING THEIR ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MR. PRESIDENT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER I 19 GUESS IS THE -- 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MOTION TO RECONSIDER, IT 21 SAYS, IT MUST BE SECONDED. IT'S, YES, IT MUST BE 22 SECONDED. 23 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO. NO. IT WAS AUGUST 25, 2011 68 1 SECONDED. 2 TRUSTEE BERG: WHO CAN MAKE THE MOTION? 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHO CAN MAKE IT MOTION? HE 4 DID NOT VOTE -- 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: ON THE LOSING SIDE, 6 YEAH. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AGAINST IT. HE DID NOT 8 VOTE ON THE LOSING SIDE. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: HE DIDN'T VOTE AT ALL. 10 TRUSTEE BERG: HE DIDN'T VOTE ON THE AFFIRMATIVE 11 SIDE. 12 TRUSTEE WONG: HE DIDN'T VOTE AT ALL. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: RIGHT. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: LAST TIME I CHECKED, AS 15 LONG AS YOU DIDN'T VOTE ON THE LOSING SIDE, YOU ARE OKAY 16 TO BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MR. TETI, DO YOU HAVE ANY 18 OPINION ON THE MATTER? 19 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY ASK OUR 20 COUNSEL THAT QUESTION. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COUNSEL. 22 EVERYBODY'S CHECKING THEIR ROBERTS RULE BOOK. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SHE'S CHECKING AS WELL. 24 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: I THOUGHT IT WAS AS 25 LONG AS YOU ARE NOT ON THE LOSING SIDE. AUGUST 25, 2011 69 1 MR. TETI: IT HAS TO BE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE 2 (INAUDIBLE). 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OKAY. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: YES. 5 TRUSTEE BERG: YES. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT SETTLES IT. THANK YOU, 7 MR. TETI, OUR UNOFFICIAL PARLIAMENTARIAN. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: REMEMBER I APPOINTED MR. TETI 10 OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN A FEW MONTHS. 11 MR. TETI: IT COMES UP SO RARELY THAT I REALLY 12 DON'T HAVE -- 13 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO THAT MEANS, 14 MR. PRESIDENT, IT NEEDS TO BE THOSE WHO VOTED, "YES" -- 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S CORRECT. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: -- TO RECONSIDER IT. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 18 MR. TETI: (INAUDIBLE). 19 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, TRUSTEE NGO. 21 TRUSTEE NGO: THIS IS A -- THE AMENDMENTS THAT 22 WERE MADE TONIGHT CREATE MATERIAL CHANGES TO THIS POLICY. 23 IT HAS TO BE SENT BACK AGAIN FOR A SECOND READING. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, I WOULD ASK COUNSEL. I 25 MEAN IN MY OPINION IS THAT THEY ARE NOT --THEY ARE NOT -- AUGUST 25, 2011 70 1 COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER -- 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WELL, I THINK -- YEAH, I 3 THINK THE PRELIMINARY PARAGRAPH CHANGES THE FLAVOR OF IT. 4 IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS 5 ARE NOT WITHIN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE BOARD -- OF THE 6 AUDIT COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW. THAT ALL DEPENDS IF YOU VIEW 7 THAT AS BEING SIGNIFICANT. I MAY, BUT -- 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO IF IT WENT BACK, IT WOULD 9 TAKE TWO MORE VOTES, TRUSTEE NGO, WOULD BE -- 10 TRUSTEE NGO: NO. IT WOULD TAKE ONE BECAUSE WE 11 WOULD BE VOTING ON IT TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST READING. 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TONIGHT WOULD BE THE FIRST 14 READING. 15 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT, AS AMENDED. 16 TRUSTEE NGO: AS AMENDED. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: SO IT WOULD COME BACK AS A 19 SECOND FIRST READING OR MAYBE A THIRD. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WHAT I'M UN -- I'M SORRY. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CHANCELLOR, PLEASE. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: SO, LANI, AND ALSO BOARD 24 MEMBERS, MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS THAT IT WAS THE INTENT 25 OF THIS, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTION ALL ALONG NOT TO DEAL WITH AUGUST 25, 2011 71 1 ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS. WE'VE SAID THAT 2 THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE COMMITTEES AND SO FORTH. SO I DON'T 3 UNDERSTAND WHY IF YOU PUT THAT CLAUSE IN THE FRONT THAT 4 IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE -- 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- OF THE AMENDMENT, THAT'S 7 ONE. 8 NO. 2, IF YOU REMOVE THE CLAUSE, THE BULLET FOUR 9 WHICH SAYS, "RECOMMEND" AND AS STUDENT TRUSTEE JEFFREY 10 FANG ALREADY INDICATED, ALL COMMITTEES HAVE THE ABILITY TO 11 RECOMMEND. YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGING 12 THIS IN TERMS OF REMOVING BULLET NO. 4. 13 BUT MY STATEMENT IS THAT I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE 14 ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE -- 15 TRUSTEE NGO: YEAH. 16 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: -- IN THE DOCUMENT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IF I MIGHT SAY -- 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: THAT'S FINE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THE 20 CHARTER, GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS TO INFORM THE PUBLIC AS TO 21 WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHAT OUR COMMITTEE IS DOING, WHAT THE 22 AUDIT COMMITTEE IS DOING. THE OVERSIGHT THAT WE ARE 23 PROVIDING, SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON OF LISTING THESE 24 THINGS. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: SO I -- IF I MAY RESPOND. I THINK AUGUST 25, 2011 72 1 THAT IF THAT WAS REALLY THE CASE THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE 2 ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL MATTERS WERE STRICTLY EXCLUDED 3 FROM THIS FROM THIS POLICY, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE 4 THE DISCUSSION WE HAD TONIGHT NOR WOULD IT HAVE BEEN 5 CONTROVERSIAL AND TABLE IT AND HEARD IN COMMITTEE THREE 6 TIMES. 7 SECONDLY, I THINK TO SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE THE 8 BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO RECOMMEND AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, 9 ACCOUNTANTS, AND OTHERS TO ADVISE ON OR ASSIST IN 10 CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S EXPLICITLY 11 REMOVED FROM THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, IT'S THE WILL OF THE 12 BOARD THAT THE COMMITTEE CANNOT DO THAT. IT CANNOT 13 RECOMMEND ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. 14 AND I WOULD SAY THAT IN SOME CASES WHERE YOU DO 15 NEED AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT, AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW, 16 IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO ACTUALLY REVIEW 17 THOSE POTENTIAL SELECTIONS AND RECOMMEND THEM TO THE BOARD 18 OF TRUSTEES. 19 AND I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S WHOLE AND CONSISTENT 20 FOR US TO TAKE OUT THAT RECOMMEND AND KEEP IN ALL THE 21 OTHER RECOMMEND, ALL THE CLAUSES THAT BEGAN WITH 22 RECOMMEND. 23 HAVING SAID THAT, I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY 24 REQUEST. I DON'T THINK I'M -- I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY 25 DISAGREEMENT WITH COUNSEL AND THE CHANCELLOR THAT THIS IS AUGUST 25, 2011 73 1 NOT GOING TO BE -- THAT THE CHANGES REQUIRE ANOTHER 2 READING AFTER TONIGHT. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 4 TRUSTEE NGO: AND I WILL CALL THE QUESTION. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO FURTHER COMMENT. 8 TRUSTEE BERG: EXCUSE ME. WOULD YOU MIND JUST 9 SUMMARIZING WHAT THIS ISSUE IS? 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SURE. 11 TRUSTEE BERG: ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BULLETPOINT 12 FOUR? 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 14 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE NOT. WE ARE TALKING 16 ABOUT WHETHER THE CHANGE WAS SUBSTANTIVE AND REQUIRED 17 ANOTHER VOTE NEXT MONTH. AND I THINK WHAT CHANCELLOR -- 18 TRUSTEE BERG: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE 19 AMENDMENT? 20 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: THE POLICY. THE AMENDMENTS HAVE 23 PASSED. 24 TRUSTEE BERG: OKAY. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE AMENDMENTS HAVE PASSED AND AUGUST 25, 2011 74 1 SO -- 2 TRUSTEE NGO: MAY I, MR. PRESIDENT. 3 I DO WANT TO NOTE, HOWEVER, THAT THE STANDARD 4 THAT THE STANDARD WE APPLY HERE FOR WHAT IS MATERIAL IN 5 REQUIRING MULTIPLE READINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE 6 ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: THANK YOU. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE -- STUDENT TRUSTEE 10 FANG. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 13 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 21 TRUSTEE NGO: MR. PRESIDENT, ONE MORE THING. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 23 TRUSTEE NGO: IS IT CLEAR THAT THE BOARD HAS NO 24 OBJECTION TO HAVING THE ADMINISTRATION USE ITS DISCRETION 25 TO RENAME PM 1.17 TO A BP NUMBER? AUGUST 25, 2011 75 1 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S FINE. THAT'S NOT 2 SUBSTANTIVE. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: SO IT'S WITHIN THE CHANCELLOR'S 4 DISCRETION? 5 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH. 6 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY. THANK YOU. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO THAT -- THERE WAS NO "NOS" 8 THEN YOU -- 9 TRUSTEE NGO: NO, "NOS." 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. THAT IS APPROVED, P1. 11 WHO IS HERE FOR S7? 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: JOSH AND -- 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE TWO THINGS. WE HAVE A 14 STUDENT FROM THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS WHO HAS TO LEAVE EARLY, 15 BUT WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE FOR S7. SO WHAT I WOULD 16 PROPOSE TO DO IS DO ONE OF OUR CONSTITUENCY REPORTS RIGHT 17 NOW, THE STUDENT FROM THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS AND THEN HOLD 18 THE REST OF THEM AND THEN DO S7. IF THAT'S -- IF THERE'S 19 NO OBJECTION. 20 OKAY, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT. 21 SO THIS IS -- WE ARE DOING THE CONSTITUENT 22 REPORT FROM THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS OF THE DOWNTOWN 23 CAMPUS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 24 MS. LAM: OKAY. GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF TRUSTEES 25 AND EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MANDI LAM. I AM THE PRESIDENT AUGUST 25, 2011 76 1 OF THE ASSOCIATED STUDENT COUNSEL AT DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. 2 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD FOR APPOINTING 3 DEAN DORE AS OUR DOWNTOWN CAMPUS DEAN. OVER THE PAST TWO 4 WEEKS, HE HAS DONE A LOT FOR THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS. WE 5 REALLY APPRECIATE HIS LEADERSHIP AND THANK YOU SO VERY 6 MUCH. THAT'S IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU 8 VERY MUCH. 9 OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO S7 NOW. 10 COUNSEL. 11 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S7 IS THE 12 EXTENSION OF THE CITY COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO/SAN 13 FRANCISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT MASTER AGREEMENT THROUGH 14 OCTOBER 31ST, 2011." 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MR. GOLDSTEIN, WOULD YOU MIND 16 JUST INTRODUCING THE TOPIC. 17 TRUSTEE BERG: TRUSTEE RIZZO. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OH, WE NEED A MOTION. 19 TRUSTEE BERG: I MOVE S7. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. TRUSTEE BERG 21 MOVES. 22 IS THERE A SECOND? 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: SECOND. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE GRIER. 25 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: CITY COLLEGE HAS HAD A AUGUST 25, 2011 77 1 MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICE 2 DEPARTMENT RELATED TO THE ACTIVITIES THEY CONDUCT FOR 3 TRAINING, PRIMARILY THEIR POLICE ACADEMY CLASSES, BUT ALSO 4 ONGOING TRAINING FOR VETERAN OFFICERS. 5 THAT AGREEMENT WHICH HAS SEVERAL PARTS TO IT 6 TECHNICALLY ONLY RAN THROUGH JUNE 30TH. WE HAVE HAD 7 SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, VERY 8 COOPERATIVE ONES TO MODIFY SOME OF THE TERMS, TO GET A 9 LONGER TERM AGREEMENT ONCE AGAIN. 10 I MIGHT ADD SOME OF THOSE TERMS WOULD BE MORE 11 FAVORABLE TO THE COLLEGE THEN THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. 12 AND THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT EXTENDS THE OLD 13 AGREEMENT WHILE WE FINISH NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE NEW ONE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND SO WE WOULD NEED A VOTE IN 15 OCTOBER -- 16 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: FOR A NEW AGREEMENT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- TO RATIFY A NEW AGREEMENT. 18 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S CORRECT. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND SO THIS 21 CONVERSATION STEMS FROM LAST MONTH'S CONVERSATION 22 REGARDING THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICE ACADEMY. AND, YOU 23 KNOW, WE HAVE NUMEROUS CITY PROGRAMS THAT ARE HOUSED AT 24 CITY COLLEGE. AND GIVEN WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, 25 ESPECIALLY IN BAYVIEW HUNTERS POINT WHERE YOU ARE SEEING AUGUST 25, 2011 78 1 POLICE OFFICERS AND THE RELATIONS BETWEEN THE POLICE 2 OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITY BE AT A PARTICULARLY LOW LEVEL 3 AT THIS POINT. 4 YOU KNOW, I HAVE ASKED LAST MONTH THAT THIS 5 RESOLUTION BE HELD BACK. THERE IS A COALITION OF FOLKS IN 6 THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE WORKING TO REALLY HAVE A BETTER 7 POLICE ACADEMY. IN TERMS OF LOCAL HIRE IN MAKING SURE WE 8 HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FOLKS ACTUALLY FROM THE 9 COMMUNITY AND FROM SAN FRANCISCO ACTUALLY IN OUR POLICE 10 ACADEMY. 11 WE ARE SLATED -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALSO TALKING 12 ABOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, MORE SOCIAL WORK CLASSES, MORE 13 CULTURAL SENSITIVITY CLASSES. 14 I ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THE CITY 15 COLLEGE ADMINISTRATORS AND STAFF THAT ACTUALLY HELP STAFF 16 THE POLICE ACADEMY. AND I WAS INFORMED THAT, YOU KNOW, 17 OUT OF 11,000 OR MORE THAN 11,000 HOURS OF ACTUAL POLICE 18 TRAINING, WE HAVE ABOUT 50 HOURS THAT IS ACTUALLY 19 DEDICATED TO CULTURAL, ETHNIC, AND COMMUNITY SENSITIVITY. 20 AND IF YOU DO THE MATH, THAT'S LESS THAN ABOUT 21 FIVE PERCENT, SO I WANT TO BOOST -- I WANT TO WORK WITH 22 EVERYBODY. I WANT TO BOOST THOSE NUMBERS UP AS WELL. 23 AND I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 24 THAT WE ACTUALLY HOLD BACK ON S7, THAT WE CONTINUE TO 25 ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO ORGANIZE AND WORK TOGETHER. WE AUGUST 25, 2011 79 1 WILL BE HAVING A RESOLUTION AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY PEOPLE 2 HERE NEXT MONTH TO REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN PRODUCE A 3 RESOLUTION -- PRODUCE LEGISLATION TO REALLY REFORM THE 4 POLICE ACADEMY TO MAKE IT MORE SENSITIVE TO COMMUNITY 5 NEEDS. AND ACTUALLY MAKE IT NOT JUST SENSITIVE, BUT MAKE 6 IT ACTUALLY MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT THE 7 POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE IN. 8 SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH CREDIT. I 9 ACTUALLY WANT TO INVITE TWO REPRESENTATIVES JOSH ARSAY 10 FROM BRIGHTLINE DEFENSE AND LEROY FROM ABU TO COME UP TO 11 THE MICROPHONE AND KIND OF ELABORATE ON THIS COMMUNITY 12 PROCESS THAT THEY'VE ORGANIZED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL RIGHT, MR. ARSAY. 14 AND IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A YELLOW CARD BEFORE 15 YOU LEAVE. 16 MR. ARSAY: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE JACKSON, TRUSTEE 17 RIZZO, AND THE BOARD. MY NAME IS JOSHUA ARSAY. I'M AN 18 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BRIGHTLINE DEFENSE PROJECT. 19 AND I'LL PASS OUT A LETTER THAT WE HAD SENT TO 20 THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND TO THE CITY IN WHICH WE 21 RESPECTFULLY ASKED THAT THE BOARD TAKE NO ACTION ON THE 22 ITEM TONIGHT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. 23 TRUSTEE JACKSON HIGHLIGHTED CERTAIN 24 OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST NOW BEFORE THIS CONTRACT IS 25 EXTENDED WHICH MAY BECOME MORE DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS AND AUGUST 25, 2011 80 1 POTENTIALLY MORE OF AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION ONCE THIS 2 CONTRACT IS CONTINUED. AND THOSE ARE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 3 ADDRESS SOME OF THE REALLY IMPORTANT UNDERLYING ISSUES 4 THAT ARE GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN 5 PARTICULAR COMMUNITIES IN SOUTHEAST SAN FRANCISCO, 6 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICE 7 DEPARTMENT. 8 I SPOKE TO MS. ESPINOLA JACKSON, THE GODMOTHER 9 OF BAYVIEW HUNTERS POINT, THIS MORNING. AND SHE RECENTLY 10 HAD A RADIO SHOW ON KPOO LAST WEEK WITH THE CHIEF, CHIEF 11 SUHR, IN WHICH SHE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT EXACTLY WHAT 12 TRUSTEE JACKSON IS TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THE NEED FOR 13 SOCIAL WORK, TRAINING, MANDATORY. 50 HOURS IS NOT ENOUGH 14 FOR THESE OFFICERS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT WANT TO DO THE 15 RIGHT THING BUT NEED TO BE SHOWN THE WAY. 16 IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY LEGALLY TO 17 MANDATE THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF LOCAL 18 PARTICIPATION, COMMUNITY CADETS WITHIN THE POLICE ACADEMY 19 CLASS. 20 WE HAD A BACK AND FORTH ORGANIZATION BRIGHTLINE 21 WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AROUND THIS IDEA THAT YOU CANNOT 22 PUT LOCAL HIRING TARGETS ON CITY PERSONNEL. THERE ARE 23 STATE LAWS THAT ARE IN PLAY THAT PROHIBIT THAT. HOWEVER, 24 THOSE STATE LAWS DO NOT APPLY. IF YOU WERE TO SET 25 GEOGRAPHIC REQUIREMENTS ON YOUR POLICE ACADEMY CLASS AUGUST 25, 2011 81 1 BECAUSE GRADUATION FROM POLICE ACADEMY DOES NOT GUARANTEE 2 CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY. YOU HAVE A VERY 3 UNIQUE AND IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE REQUIREMENTS 4 ON YOUR NEXT THREE INCOMING POLICE ACADEMY CLASSES, WHICH 5 I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU, TRUSTEES, WE LOSE IF WE VOTE "YES" 6 ON THIS ITEM RIGHT NOW. 7 SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY WOULD ASK THAT WE TAKE 8 THE TIME TO POSTPONE ACTION ON THIS ONCE MORE TO GET LOCAL 9 COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION WITHIN THE UPCOMING POLICE ACADEMY 10 CLASS AND CLASSES, SOMETHING YOU ARE ABLE TO DO, HAVE A 11 REQUIREMENT TO HAVE SOCIAL WORK, SOMETHING YOU ARE GOING 12 TO HEAR FROM MR. LEROY MOORE FROM ABU ABOUT IN A MOMENT. 13 AND AGAIN, YOU CAN DO THIS. YOU CAN PUT 14 REQUIREMENTS ON THIS. I THINK THERE'S A MANDATE HERE. 15 AND OBVIOUSLY IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT POLICING THE 16 COMMUNITY FROM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT HAS 17 NOT HAPPENED, THAT HAS LED TO GREAT TENSIONS IN OUR 18 COMMUNITIES IN THE SOUTHEAST SECTOR AND AROUND THE CITY. 19 WE THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OPEN TO IT. AND YOU CAN 20 TAKE A VERY IMPORTANT LEADERSHIP ROLE IN DOING THAT 21 TONIGHT. SO WE WOULD ASK THAT RESPECTFULLY OF THE BOARD. 22 THANK YOU. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 24 MR. MOORE: COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS LEROY 25 MOORE. I'M A MEMBER OF ABU, ABORIGINAL BLACKMEN UNITED. AUGUST 25, 2011 82 1 OUR FOCUS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS GETTING JOBS, 2 CONSTRUCTION JOBS, MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE CONTRACTORS 3 HIRE FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND WE FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT 4 THIS POLICE ACADEMY. WHY CAN'T THEY COME FROM OUR 5 COMMUNITY? 6 YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE YOU HIRE FROM EVERYBODY ELSE 7 COMMUNITY. WE WANT SOMEBODY FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO BE 8 SENSITIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY. SOMEBODY THAT FEEL WHAT WE 9 FEEL. KNOW ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY LIKE WE KNOW. THANK YOU. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD FILL 11 OUT A YELLOW CARD, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 12 ANY OTHER -- OH, I HAVE FRANCINE PODENSKI. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: COULD I ASK A QUESTION WHILE -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CERTAINLY. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- FRANCINE COMES TO THE PODIUM. 16 WHAT'S THAT SPEAKER'S NAME? 17 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: LEROY. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE FIRST SPEAKER OR THE 19 SECOND? 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: THE SECOND. 21 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THE SECOND IS LEROY. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THAT'S RIGHT. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I'M SORRY. WHAT'S YOUR 24 LAST NAME, SIR? 25 MR. MOORE: MOORE. AUGUST 25, 2011 83 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: MR. MOORE, COULD I ASK YOU A 2 QUESTION, PLEASE. 3 MR. MOORE: YES. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU TALKED ABOUT LOCAL HIRING. 5 MR. MOORE: YES. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE LOCAL 7 HIRING PROGRAMS AT CITY COLLEGE? DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM 8 IN YOUR COMMUNITY? AND HAS ANYONE BEEN HIRED FROM YOUR 9 COMMUNITY TO FILL IN THOSE SLOTS? 10 MR. MOORE: I KNOW ABOUT THEM, BUT IT'S NOT 11 ALWAYS ENFORCED. WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IT. WE MAKE SURE OUR 12 MOTTO IS IF WE DON'T WORK, YOU DON'T WORK. YOU ARE NOT 13 GOING TO COME OUT HERE AND WORK, AND WE NOT WORK. WE FEEL 14 THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE POLICE ACADEMY. WHY CAN'T THEY BE 15 FROM BAYVIEW HUNTERS POINT, SOME OF THEM. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. THANK 17 YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 MS. PODENSKI: FRANCINE PODENSKI, CITY COLLEGE 20 FACULTY. 21 I THINK SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS ARE BEING MADE 22 HERE AND ARE WORTH CONSIDERING. BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE 23 TO BALANCE THIS SOMEWHAT WITH THE POLICE ACADEMY UNTIL NOT 24 SO LONG AGO HAD THEIR CLASSES IN MONTEREY. AND THEY'VE 25 COME TO CITY COLLEGE -- I THINK WE HAVE TO KIND OF WORK AUGUST 25, 2011 84 1 WITH THEM IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF MUTUAL RESPECT AND CONSIDER 2 THAT POSSIBLY THE POLICE COMMISSION SHOULD BE INVOLVED 3 ALSO IN THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAVING THE 4 POLICE ACADEMY AT CITY COLLEGE IN ITSELF, I HOPE 5 INFLUENCES THE GRADUATES IN A BIT MORE DIVERSE ATTITUDE 6 THEN IF IT WERE IN MONTEREY. 7 AND I AM CONCERNED THAT WE BE VERY CAREFUL TO 8 ENCOURAGE THEM TO STAY WITH CITY COLLEGE IN THE PROCESS OF 9 THIS CONVERSATION. THAT'S ALL. I AM JUST HOPING THAT WE 10 CAN FIND WAYS TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WHERE THEY ARE 11 ENCOURAGED TO REMAIN WITH CITY COLLEGE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I WILL JUST MENTION THAT I'VE 13 HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF SUHR ABOUT THIS, AND HE'S 14 OPEN, YOU KNOW, TO SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM. AND HE 15 WAS NOT OPPOSED TO IT AT ALL, SO -- 16 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I THINK ULTIMATELY 17 THIS ISN'T -- IT'S THE MAYOR'S DECISION TO MOVE THIS 18 POLICE ACADEMY TO MONTEREY. AND, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE 19 MAYOR HIMSELF HAS STATED THAT HE SUPPORTS LOCAL HIRE, I 20 WOULD -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S 21 DECISION. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT 22 THE MAYOR'S APPROVAL. 23 AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD SOME ENCOURAGING 24 COMMENTS FROM THE MAYOR, BUT I REALLY THINK THAT IT JUST 25 BEING IN SAN FRANCISCO, DOESN'T INFLUENCE PEOPLE'S AUGUST 25, 2011 85 1 ATTITUDES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT AS PROGRESSIVE AS WE WOULD 2 LIKE TO CALL OURSELVES. I MEAN WE REALLY AREN'T BECAUSE 3 CERTAIN COMMUNITIES WOULDN'T LOOK THE SAME, AND WOULDN'T 4 BE THE WAY THAT THEY ARE IF WE WERE REALLY PROGRESSIVE. 5 AND IT TAKES COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS AND PEOPLE IN COMMUNITY 6 ADVOCATES THAT REALLY CHANGE THE CULTURE. 7 YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE POLICE ACADEMY HERE FOR 8 SEVERAL YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN IN SAN FRANCISCO, YOU KNOW, 9 BUT I CAN'T GET OVER THE FACT THAT IF THERE WAS A POLICE 10 OFFICER FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE MUNI PLATFORM AND A KID 11 DIDN'T HAVE TWO BUCKS FOR TRANSFER, I CAN'T GET OVER THE 12 FACT THAT IF SOMEONE WAS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT 13 UNDERSTOOD THE T LINE AND UNDERSTOOD THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE 14 DON'T HAVE TWO BUCKS OR WON'T PAY TWO BUCKS, THAT INCIDENT 15 WOULD HAVE BEEN DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT HAD THAT PERSON BEEN 16 FROM EVEN SAN FRANCISCO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. BUT 17 IF THAT PERSON WAS FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 18 A FAR BETTER OUTCOME FOR THE COMMUNITY THEN WHAT HAPPENED. 19 YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN TIMES A LOT OF THE TRUSTEES 20 WE GET KIND OF BOGGED DOWN IN A LOT OF -- YOU KNOW, WE 21 JUST TALKED ABOUT AN AUDIT FOR 45 MINUTES. YOU KNOW, AND 22 THIS IS ACTUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT HOW CITY 23 COLLEGE CAN DO VERY GREAT THINGS IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE 24 NOT HAD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS DONE TO THEM OR FOR THEM IN 25 A VERY LONG TIME. AUGUST 25, 2011 86 1 AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT, YOU 2 KNOW, FOR OUR POLICE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITY AND 3 WITH CITY COLLEGE, AND I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR, YOU 4 KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION -- THE DEPARTMENT OF, YOU KNOW, 5 OF FIRE AND ADMINISTRATION. AND I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT 6 FOR OUR FACULTY MEMBERS. AND I KNOW THAT THEY DO A GREAT 7 JOB. BUT THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY. AND THIS IS REAL 8 EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND I THINK WE CAN REALLY MAKE A STRONG 9 CHANGE. WE'VE HAD -- THIS IS NOT JUST AN OFFSHOOT. WE'VE 10 HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH 11 THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. 12 AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE GIVE THIS UP, AND WE 13 ACTUALLY JUST EXTEND THE LEASE AGAIN, IT REALLY DOESN'T 14 SEND A MESSAGE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT CITY COLLEGE 15 IS ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN BEING A PARTNER IN THIS CHANGE. 16 AND IT PREVENTS THE COMMUNITY FROM CONTINUING TO NEGOTIATE 17 AND PUSH AND GET REAL CHANGE IN HOW THE POLICE ACADEMY IS 18 DONE. 19 AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT WHERE CITY COLLEGE IS, 20 AND I AM GOING TO STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS, IS WE ARE -- WE 21 HOUSE -- EVERYONE HAS TO COME FROM THE -- MOST PEOPLE HAVE 22 TO COME THROUGH THE POLICE ACADEMY. WE CAN ACTUALLY 23 CHANGE HOW THE NEW RECRUITS COME IN AND BEHAVE IN THE 24 COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THIS IS A REMARKABLE OPPORTUNITY 25 TO REALLY EXTEND OUR INFLUENCE JUST BEYOND EDUCATION, BUT AUGUST 25, 2011 87 1 REALLY EXTEND IT INTO THE COMMUNITY, SO I WILL STOP. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE WONG, WHAT I WOULD 3 LIKE TO DO IS FINISH UP WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN 4 HAVE BOARD DISCUSSION. WOULD YOU AGREE BECAUSE I WANT 5 TO -- IT KEEPS GOING BACK AND FORTH AND -- 6 TRUSTEE WONG: WELL, SINCE TRUSTEE JACKSON -- 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. 8 TRUSTEE WONG: -- JUST SPOKE, I THINK I SHOULD 9 BE ABLE TO. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. JUST A SUGGESTION. 11 TRUSTEE WONG: FIRST OF ALL, I WAS THE ONE WHO 12 WORKED TO BRING THE POLICE ACADEMY TO CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 13 FRANCISCO WHEN NONE OF THE CURRENT TRUSTEES WERE PART OF 14 THE BOARD AT THAT TIME. 15 AND WHEN I JOINED THE BOARD, I DISCOVERED THAT 16 THE POLICE ACADEMY WAS IN MONTEREY, AND I SAID THAT 17 DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICE 18 DEPARTMENT POLICE ACADEMY IS BEING TRAINED BY THE MONTEREY 19 COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 20 SO I HAD THESE VERY LONG DISCUSSIONS WITH THE 21 MAYOR'S OFFICE, WITH THE POA, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 22 THERE WAS RESISTANCE BECAUSE THEY ARE SO USED TO THE WAY 23 THINGS WERE. IT'S VERY EASY TO JUST STAY WHERE THEY WERE. 24 AND SO WE FOUGHT TO BRING THEM TO CITY COLLEGE OF SAN 25 FRANCISCO. AUGUST 25, 2011 88 1 NOW I HOPE THAT THIS IS NOT BEING 2 CHARACTERIZED -- THIS DISCUSSION IS NOT BEING 3 CHARACTERIZED AS IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO US, THEN WE WANT 4 YOU -- THERE'S THE DOOR. IT'S MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. 5 HOPEFULLY, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 6 WHAT I AM HEARING FROM TRUSTEE JACKSON IS THE WORD 7 "OPPORTUNITY." IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO 8 RUN THIS PROGRAM, TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT THE COMMUNITY MAY 9 HAVE CONCERNS WITH. 10 I DON'T WANT IT TO BE CHARACTERIZED AS AN 11 ULTIMATUM BECAUSE WE FOUGHT TO BRING THIS TO SAN FRANCISCO 12 AS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TRAINING WITH THE FIRE 13 DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE ALL RECOGNIZE HOW IMPORTANT CITY 14 COLLEGE IS, AND WE SHOULD BE PART AND PARCEL AND A 15 PARTICIPANT IN SAN FRANCISCO AND ALL THAT HAPPENS IN SAN 16 FRANCISCO IN TERMS OF OUR OWN SAFETY AND SO FORTH. 17 SO, TRUSTEE JACKSON, AM I CORRECT IN 18 UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT GOING 19 TO BE MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY, BUT AN OPPORTUNITY JUST TO 20 SAY, WE WANT YOU HERE, BUT PLEASE ALSO LISTEN TO OUR 21 CONCERNS IN HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THE PROGRAM? IS THAT WHAT 22 I AM HEARING? 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, YOU'VE -- AND 24 I'VE NEVER SAID ANYTHING DIFFERENT. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: I GET A SENSE, PERHAPS, SOME AUGUST 25, 2011 89 1 PEOPLE MAY BE MISUNDERSTANDING. 2 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: BUT I WILL CAUTION 3 THAT, YOU KNOW, I AM A GENTLER SOUL THEN A LOT OF OTHER 4 PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE BECAUSE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE 5 IN THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT PARTICULARLY HAPPY. AND SO MY -- 6 PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MY WORDS AND HOW I'VE TALKED -- 7 TRUSTEE WONG: BUT YOU ARE THE TRUSTEE WITH 8 VOTES. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- AND HOW I AM 10 COMMUNICATING BECAUSE I HAVE TO KIND OF TRANSLATE THE 11 EXPERIENCES OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT YOU 12 KNOW KIND OF TRANSLATES TO FOLKS HERE. 13 AND SO I AM SAYING, "YES," WE ARE WORKING -- YOU 14 KNOW JOSH AND LEROY HAS ALREADY SAID THAT WE ARE WORKING 15 WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE POLICE 16 DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, MS. ESPINOLA JACKSON TALKED TO 17 POLICE CHIEF SUHR. OUR PRESIDENT HAS SAID THAT HE HAS 18 TALKED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. AND NO ONE IS 19 OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE 20 HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS 21 ISSUE IN APPROVING EVEN A TEMPORARY EXTENSION OF THIS 22 MASTER AGREEMENT. 23 YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DOES EFFECT OUR ABILITY TO 24 WORK BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE, HEY, CITY COLLEGE IS GOING TO 25 EXTEND IT. WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE TO MEET ANYMORE? AUGUST 25, 2011 90 1 SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULD ASK AND THE 2 COMMUNITY WOULD ASK IF WE WOULD JUST HOLD BACK THIS 3 RESOLUTION TO GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION DIRECTION ON HOW TO 4 NEGOTIATE AND TALK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO 5 BE ON THE AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER. 6 AND WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR REVOLUTIONARY THINGS. 7 WE ARE ASKING OUT OF 11,000 HOURS THAT LIKE MORE THAN 50 8 BE ACTUAL COMMUNITY SENSITIVITY SOCIAL WORK KIND OF 9 CLASSES BECAUSE YOU ARE REALLY DEALING WITH REAL ROOT 10 CAUSES OF POVERTY IN THESE COMMUNITIES. AND WE ARE JUST 11 ASKING THAT WE ADD SOME MORE SOCIAL WORK CLASSES, MAYBE 12 THROW IN AN ETHNIC STUDIES CLASS OR TWO. BUT WE ARE 13 REALLY JUST ASKING FOR BASIC THINGS. AND WE ARE ASKING 14 ALSO THAT THE POLICE ACADEMY SHOULD REFLECT THE PEOPLE 15 THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY POLICING. 16 I MEAN THE POLICE ACADEMY AT THIS POINT LOOKS 17 LIKE MARINA AND PAC HEIGHTS, BUT THEY ARE NOT IN THE 18 MARINA AND THE PAC HEIGHTS. THEY ARE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 19 AND SO I HAVE TO REALLY BE CLEAR. IF YOU ARE IN MY 20 NEIGHBORHOOD, I WANT THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE 21 REFLECTIVE OF THE VALUES, NOT OF THE MARINA AND PAC 22 HEIGHTS AND OF MARIN COUNTY. I WANT YOUR VALUES TO BE 23 REFLECTIVE AND YOUR EXPERIENCES TO BE REFLECTIVE OF MY 24 COMMUNITY, THE VISITACION VALLEY, THE BAYVIEW, AND THE 25 MISSION AND THE EXCELSIOR. WE WANT THOSE VALUES AUGUST 25, 2011 91 1 REFLECTED. 2 SO I AM BEING VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE 3 WORKING. WE ARE ALL COLLABORATIVE. NO ONE'S PUSHED BACK 4 HARD SAYING WE WILL NOT DO IT, AND WE ARE GOING TO GO TO 5 MONTEREY. NO ONE'S EVEN -- THAT MESSAGE HAS NEVER -- 6 TRUSTEE WONG: OR THAT WE ARE GOING TO THROW YOU 7 OUT. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, NO. NO ONE HAS 9 MESSAGE -- 10 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- THAT WE ARE GOING TO 12 THROW YOU OUT. 13 YOU KNOW, I TOOK YOUR MESSAGE TO HEART, TRUSTEE 14 WONG. AND, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT WEEK I WAS SITTING DOWN 15 WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION, WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, 16 WITH THE CHANCELLOR, WITH THE DEAN, AND WITH ALL THE FOLKS 17 FROM OUR CITY COLLEGE FAMILY AND JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS 18 ISSUE IN A REALLY COLLABORATIVE WAY. AND I THINK THE 19 COMMUNITY HAS TALKED WITH THE POLICE CHIEF. 20 I MEAN YOU SAW THE TOWN HALL MEETING AT THE 21 BAYVIEW OPERA HOUSE. THAT'S WHERE IT COULD GO, BUT WE 22 COULD ALSO GO INTO A COLLABORATIVE WAY AS WELL. 23 SO, YOU KNOW, IF A COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE IT 24 REDRESSED, IT COULD GO THERE. BUT WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS 25 LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE AUGUST 25, 2011 92 1 COMMUNITIES THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY POLICING. AND I THINK 2 IT'S VERY SIMPLE, A VERY COLLABORATIVE APPROACH, AND NO 3 ONE HAS BEEN HOSTILE -- 4 TRUSTEE WONG: GOOD. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: -- AT ALL. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. LET ME JUST SAY 7 SOMETHING. 8 FIRST I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT MR. ARSAY 9 PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN OUR DRAFTING OF OUR LOCAL HIRING 10 POLICY. AND WE ALL APPRECIATE HIM FOR THAT. 11 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE THIS MOU I THINK 12 IS NOT WHAT SOME PEOPLE MAY THINK IT IS. THE OCTOBER 13 AGREEMENT I THINK IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF 14 BECAUSE THE OCTOBER AGREEMENT IS FOR THE JANUARY 15 SEMESTER -- 16 TRUSTEE WONG: EXACTLY. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- OF THE POLICE ACADEMY. WE 18 HAVE CLASSES GOING ON NOW, RIGHT NOW FOR THE POLICE 19 ACADEMY. WE HAVE NO MOU WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IF 20 WE DON'T HAVE AN MOU WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THIS 21 FAILS AGAIN TONIGHT FOR A SECOND TIME, WE ARE GOING TO 22 HAVE TO STOP CLASSES. 23 AND THE CHANCELLOR CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, 24 SO THIS IS ABOUT THE CLASSES THAT ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW. 25 AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO STOP THOSE CLASSES FROM AUGUST 25, 2011 93 1 HAPPENING. 2 SO AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT, CHANCELLOR? 3 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: NO. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 4 CORRECT. THIS IS A PROGRAM. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CLASSES 5 THAT ARE IN SESSION. WE ACTUALLY ENROLL THOSE STUDENTS 6 UNDER THE OLD AGREEMENT WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT WE 7 WOULD HAVE A NEW MOU BY THIS TIME OR THE BEGINNING OF THE 8 FALL SEMESTER. I'M SORRY THE FALL SEMESTER. 9 THOSE STUDENT ARE THERE. THEY ARE TAKE TAKING 10 THEIR CLASSES. THEY HAVE EVERY EXPECTATION THAT THE 11 COLLEGE WILL HONOR WHAT WE SAID THAT WE WOULD DO IN TERMS 12 OF GIVING THEM CLASSES. THIS WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD 13 HAVE TO DISENROLL THE STUDENTS. WE WOULD HAVE TO TELL THE 14 INSTRUCTORS WHO ARE TEACHING THOSE CLASSES, NO, YOU CANNOT 15 TEACH. THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR IMPACT IN TERMS OF OUR 16 PROGRAM. 17 IN FACT THE LARGE POLICE ACADEMY PROGRAM IS 18 GOING TO START IN JANUARY. THAT'S WHEN THE ACADEMY 19 STARTS. BUT ALL THESE OTHER POLICE CLASSES THAT WE ARE 20 HAVING, THEY ARE CRITICAL TO THE PROGRAM AND ARE OFFERED 21 IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE POLICE ACADEMY WOULD BE OUT -- 22 STUDENTS WOULD BE OUT. THE INSTRUCTORS WOULD BE OUT. 23 SO THE THREE MAIN ACADEMY CLASSES ARE STARTING 24 IN JANUARY. BUT THERE'S A HOST OF OTHER CLASSES AND A 25 HOST OF OTHER STUDENTS AND A HOST OF OTHER FACULTY THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 94 1 WOULD BE EFFECTED BY US NOT BEING ABLE TO EXTEND THIS 2 AGREEMENT TO THAT DATE. 3 AND SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE AGAIN WHAT 4 TRUSTEE -- PRESIDENT RIZZO HAS STATED. THE TIME TO DEAL 5 WITH THIS IS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE REAL MOU THAT'S 6 GOING FORWARD FOR THREE YEARS. THAT'S THE TIME TO TALK 7 ABOUT THIS WHEN IT'S ON THE AGENDA. 8 ALSO, THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE FACULTY HAVE 9 EXPRESSED A TOTAL WILLINGNESS TO TALK ABOUT CHANGE IN THE 10 CURRICULUM, CHANGING ANY ASPECT THAT WE CAN MAKE A MORE 11 SOLID RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE ACADEMY AND BE IN SYNC 12 WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEED IS. 13 BUT TO SAY "NO" NOW IS REALLY TO PUNISH, YOU 14 KNOW, WHAT I THINK ARE PRETTY INNOCENT PARTIES AS FAR AS 15 THIS IS CONCERNED. AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. THAT'S 16 NOT WHAT OUR PROMISE WAS TO THE STUDENTS WHEN WE ALLOWED 17 THEM TO ENROLL IN THE CLASSES. THAT WAS NOT OUR PROMISE 18 TO THE FACULTY WHEN WE SIGNED THEM UP AND GAVE THESE 19 ASSIGNMENTS TO THEM. SO IT'S REALLY AN IMPORTANT ISSUE IN 20 TERMS OF JUST DOING THIS EXTENSION FOR THIS 120 DAYS. 21 TRUSTEE WONG: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 300 22 STUDENTS. 23 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: WE HAVE AT LEAST 300 24 STUDENTS. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: AT LEAST 300 STUDENTS. AUGUST 25, 2011 95 1 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THESE ARE NOT POLICE 2 ACADEMY STUDENTS, BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE CLASSES THAT 3 ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE POLICE ACADEMY. 4 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES, THANK YOU, 7 CHANCELLOR. 8 I ALSO WANT TO ECHO THAT THE MAIN THING IS I 9 HAVE BEEN HEARING EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS. NOT APPROVING 10 THIS LAST MONTH IT'S ALREADY A MESSAGE. AND IT WAS PRETTY 11 STRONG. IT WAS A FIVE-HOUR MEETING. I AM SURE IT WAS A 12 STRONG MESSAGE THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THE CHANGES WE 13 WANT FOR SENSITIVITY TRAINING AND WHATNOT. 14 THE THING IS IT WAS ALSO MADE CLEAR LAST MONTH 15 IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS EXTENDED TEMPORARILY SO WE CAN WORK 16 ON THE REAL AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN GET THE SENSITIVITY ALL 17 IN THERE THAT WE WANTED, WE ARE ACTUALLY LOSING FTES AND 18 WHEN I HEAR THAT WE HAVE TO DISENROLL, YEAH, THAT'S 19 DEFINITELY LOSING STUDENTS. I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THAT. 20 SO I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS TONIGHT SINCE 21 IT IS ONLY TEMPORARILY TO OCTOBER. WE CAN STILL WORK ON 22 THE NEXT WAVE OF CLASSES AND HAVE A BETTER POLICE FORCE 23 EVENTUALLY. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE GRIER. 25 TRUSTEE GRIER: WE STILL HAVE SPEAKERS. I THINK AUGUST 25, 2011 96 1 THE SPEAKERS -- 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WOULD YOU LIKE -- YEAH, I 3 AGREE. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: AND THEN I WILL MAKE MY 5 COMMENTS. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 WE HAVE ANGELA THOMAS. 8 MS. THOMAS: NOW YOU KNOW I COME DOWN HERE 9 SOMETIMES AND YOU ALL JUST GET ME TOTALLY CONFUSED. AND 10 THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES WHERE I AM TOTALLY CONFUSED. 11 AND I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE HAVING 12 SO MUCH CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. THAT'S WHY I AM 13 CONFUSED. 14 THIS IS SCHOOL AND STUDENTS. THAT'S ONE SIDE OF 15 THE HOUSE. HOW IT'S BEING PRESENTED IS POLITICS. WHO 16 LIVE IN THE BAYVIEW, WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE BAYVIEW, THE 17 MAYOR. THAT'S POLITICS. THAT'S NOT OUR HOUSE. OUR HOUSE 18 IS EDUCATION. 19 AND I FEEL LIKE I AM AT THE ARCADE WITH THEM -- 20 YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ALLIGATORS POP UP AND I'VE GOT TO BEAT 21 THESE THINGS DOWN BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE GET OFF ON THESE 22 TANGENTS AND THINGS. THIS IS ABOUT A PROGRAM. 23 IF THE PEOPLE HAVE CONSENSUS THAT THEY ARE 24 WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CURRICULUM, AFT IS WILLING TO 25 WORK WITH THE CURRICULUM AND THE STUDENTS ARE HERE, AUGUST 25, 2011 97 1 PROVIDE FOR THE STUDENTS. 2 IF THE CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING ON TO WORK IT OUT 3 IN YOUR COMMUNITY, LET THOSE CONVERSATIONS GO ON AND AT A 4 POINT COME TOGETHER AND MESH THIS THING TOGETHER. BUT AS 5 FAR AS THE MOU, YOU ALL NEED TO SIGN THAT THING AND STOP 6 PLAYING WITH THIS. WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT 7 THIS. THESE KIDS ARE HERE. IT'S MOVING FORWARD. IT'S 8 IN, AND YOU GUYS KNEW THIS. 9 AND I AM SORRY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO 10 TALK ABOUT THIS NO MORE. AND I AM NOT THE BOARD. BUT I 11 DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE. 12 THIS IS SIMPLE. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT 13 EDUCATION. AND THE WAY THIS BUDGET IS GOING, WE'VE GOT 14 BIGGER FISH TO FRY THAN THIS. HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND A 15 WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS? THAT'S MY CONCERN FOR ME AND MY 16 MEMBERS AND SOME OF THE STUDENTS THAT I KNOW IS TO MAKE 17 SURE THAT THIS COLLEGE STAYS OPEN AND RUNS. AND NOT THAT 18 THEY START COMING TO SCHOOL AND THEN THEY COME ON ONE DAY 19 AND SUDDENLY THE DOORS ARE CLOSED. THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM 20 ABOUT. AND I DIDN'T THINK ANY OF YOU WAS ABOUT THAT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 22 IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 23 MR. SCOTT. 24 AND IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A CARD WHEN YOUR -- 25 MR. SCOTT: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO AUGUST 25, 2011 98 1 SPEAK. RODGER SCOTT, I'VE BEEN HERE MANY YEARS. 2 I AM NO EXPERT ON THE COMPLEX PROBLEMS IN THAT 3 COMMUNITY, HOWEVER, I'VE WORKED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SEVEN 4 SEMESTERS NOW WITH ANOTHER INSTRUCTOR FROM CITY COLLEGE. 5 AND DR. GRIER AND I WERE THERE DISCUSSING WHEN THE MOSQUE 6 VOLUNTEERED TO BE THE VENUE OF A DISCUSSION ON THE LENNAR 7 PROJECT. 8 AND THAT'S WHEN A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER TOOK A 9 GUN INTO THE SANCTUARY AND WAS SURREPTITIOUSLY TAPING 10 PEOPLE. IT WAS HANDLED VERY WELL BECAUSE THOSE OF US IN 11 THE FRONT OF THE SANCTUARY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS GOING 12 ON. 13 HOWEVER, WHEN WE WENT OUTSIDE, THERE WAS AN ARMY 14 OF POLICE THERE. AND THE POLICE WERE VERY DEFENSIVE ABOUT 15 PROTECTING THIS PERSON, THE RETIRED POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS 16 DOING SOMETHING TOTALLY ILLEGAL. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS 17 GOOD THAT THE SECURITY PEOPLE THAT MATIER AND ROSS 18 IDENTIFIED AS BLACK MUSLIM GUARDS, HANDCUFFED HIM TO A 19 LIGHTPOLE FOR 45 MINUTES. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF 20 POETIC JUSTICE. 21 BUT IN ANY RATE, THE ACTIONS OF THE POLICE 22 DEPARTMENT THAT NIGHT WERE OUTRAGEOUS IN MANY WAYS. AND 23 ONE OF THE SECURITY PEOPLE HAD POLICE GOING TO HIS HOME TO 24 THREATEN HIM AND HARASS HIM WITH GUNS FOR WEEKS AFTER 25 THAT. AUGUST 25, 2011 99 1 I THINK THE NEW POLICE CHIEF, SUHR, IS A STEP 2 FORWARD. AND I AM GLAD TO SEE CITY COLLEGE PLAYING A ROLE 3 IN THE ACADEMY. 4 MY ONE POINT, MAJOR POINT TONIGHT IS THAT I 5 THINK THAT MR. ARSAY AND MR. MOORE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO 6 BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, I THINK YOU'VE MADE A 7 COMPELLING CASE FOR CONTINUING AS YOU'VE APPARENTLY 8 DECIDED TO DO. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO 9 THE COMMUNITY AND SAY TO PEOPLE THAT THERE WILL BE AN 10 OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO HAVE -- FOR THEM AND OTHER 11 COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES TO HAVE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS 12 OF MODIFYING THE CURRICULUM IN THE WAYS THAT I THINK 13 EVERYBODY HERE OR MOSTLY -- ALMOST EVERYBODY HERE WOULD 14 APPROVE OF. THANK YOU. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC 16 COMMENT? 17 OKAY, I AM GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT SO 18 THAT -- THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO SPEAK AND AFTER THIS, 19 THAT'S IT. 20 THANK YOU. 21 BOARD DISCUSSION? 22 TRUSTEE GRIER. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 24 THANK YOU, RODGER AND ANGELA FOR YOUR CLARITY 25 AND FOR YOUR SENSIBILITY. AUGUST 25, 2011 100 1 I THINK THERE WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSION ABOUT 2 THE RESOLUTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON TONIGHT. IT'S 3 TO EXTEND THE PROGRAM UNTIL OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. 4 AND TRUSTEE JACKSON THE NEW RESOLUTION WILL GIVE 5 US A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT TO GET 6 INPUT FROM THE FACULTY, THE STAFF, AND ALSO ALLOW ME TO 7 GIVE INPUT AS WELL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT 8 DISCUSSION IN FRAMING THE NEW RESOLUTION THAT WE WILL 9 BRING BACK, NOT IN OCTOBER, BUT I THINK IN NOVEMBER. 10 AND IT WILL INCLUDE SENSITIVITY TRAINING. IT 11 WILL INCLUDE LOCAL HIRE. AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO 12 HERE AT THE COLLEGE WHICH IS REAL PROBLEMATIC FOR ME IS 13 THAT WE DO RESOLUTIONS. WE MAKE STATEMENTS, BUT WE DON'T 14 FOLLOW UP WITH ENFORCEMENT. 15 AND SO AS WE WRITE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE NEW 16 SCHOOL YEAR FOR THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND 17 THE MASTER AGREEMENT, ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID COULD 18 BE INCLUDED IN THERE AND WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS THE 19 ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT WE SAY. 20 SO I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN YOU -- 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: THANK YOU. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 23 BUT I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO VOTE 24 ON THIS RESOLUTION TO CONTINUE WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN 25 STARTED AND THEN START ANEW WITH THE NEW RESOLUTION THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 101 1 INCLUDES ALL THE INPUT AND THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD 2 HERE TONIGHT. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: OF COURSE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE JACKSON. 5 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM TRUSTEE 7 NGO. 8 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: GO AHEAD. 9 TRUSTEE NGO: I THINK -- AND ANGELA THIS IS THE 10 LAST TIME I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT -- 11 MS. THOMAS: THANK YOU. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AT LEAST UNTIL OCTOBER. 13 I THINK THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS 14 DEBATE. AND THE BEAUTIFUL THING IS THAT BOTH VIEWPOINTS 15 ARE RIGHT. EVEN MORE BEAUTIFUL IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO 16 CHOOSE BETWEEN ONE OR THE OTHER. WE CAN VOTE ON THIS 17 TONIGHT TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT AND NOT LOSE ABOUT 18 $126,000 IN FTES AND KICK OUT THESE 300 STUDENTS, OKAY. 19 AND WE STILL MAINTAIN LEVERAGE BECAUSE WE HAVE A 20 CLOCK TICKING NOW. OCTOBER 31ST IS THE NEW DEADLINE FOR 21 THE COMMUNITY TO PUSH FOR AN AGREEMENT THAT SATISFIES THE 22 CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND 23 CITY COLLEGE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING 24 ABOUT THIS DEBATE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE EITHER 25 WAY. WE CAN KEEP THIS AGREEMENT. AUGUST 25, 2011 102 1 IN FACT I THINK WE SHOULD BECAUSE THERE ARE 2 CLASSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY HAPPENING AND OCCURRING NOW AND 3 THAT'S ALL BEEN TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FALSE 4 CHOICE HERE. WE CAN STILL DO ONE AND KEEP LEVERAGE ON THE 5 ACADEMY AS WE GO FORWARD WITH A NEW SHOT CLOCK. AND IT 6 ENDS ON OCTOBER 31ST. AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT TRUSTEE 7 JACKSON AND TRUSTEE GRIER AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WHO CARE 8 SO DEEPLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE AS WELL AS COMMUNITY ADVOCATES 9 AND LEADERS LIKE MR. ARSAY WILL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS, 10 ESPECIALLY WITH THIS NEW TIMETABLE. 11 I RECOMMEND THAT WE ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION. 12 THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ANY FURTHER COMMENT? 14 TRUSTEE WONG: I CALL FOR THE QUESTION. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. I WILL JUST SAY THAT I 16 HAVEN'T -- I SPOKE WITH THE POLICE CHIEF. I SPOKE WITH 17 OUR DEPARTMENT HERE. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE OBJECT TO, 18 YOU KNOW, ADDING SOMETHING TO THE CURRICULA. IN FACT 19 EVERYONE I'VE TALKED TO SAYS IT'S A GOOD IDEA. SO I DON'T 20 THINK WE ARE GOING TO SEE ANY KIND OF RESISTANCE TO THAT. 21 SO I WILL JUST MENTION THAT, AND WE WILL TAKE OUR VOTE 22 NOW. 23 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: CAN I -- 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ONE MORE, OKAY. 25 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: YEAH, I'VE GOT A -- AUGUST 25, 2011 103 1 AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BE HONEST. I HAVE TOLD 2 EVERYBODY. I DON'T WANT TO BE AN OBSTRUCTIONIST. I HAVE 3 A RIGHT TO VOTE "NO." AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS A RIGHT TO 4 VOTE THE WAY THEY WANT TO VOTE ON THIS. I GO TO SLEEP 5 AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR GUNFIRE EVERY NIGHT. AND YOU ARE 6 WONDERING WHERE THE COPS ARE AT THAT POINT. 7 SO I'VE -- YOU KNOW, I AM A FORMER STUDENT 8 ACTIVIST. YOU KNOW, AND SO WHERE I COME FROM, YOU KNOW, 9 BEING ON THIS COLLEGE BOARD COMES FROM A VERY REAL PLACE, 10 YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE AREN'T A LOT OF 11 OPTIONS FOR FOLKS. AND I TALK, TAIL, AND BRING A LOT OF 12 FOLKS, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD NEVER BE IN THIS INSTITUTION TO 13 THIS INSTITUTION. 14 AND, YOU KNOW, SO IN TERMS OF THE WORK THAT I DO 15 TO, YOU KNOW, BE, YOU KNOW, STUDENT, YOU KNOW, FRIENDLY TO 16 MAKE SURE -- THAT'S WHAT BEATS IN MY HEART IS TO MAKE SURE 17 THAT THIS INSTITUTION MEETS THE NEEDS OF ALL STUDENTS IN 18 THIS CITY. 19 AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T BE HERE IF IT WASN'T 20 FOR THE COMMUNITY. I WOULDN'T BE SITTING IN THIS BOARD. 21 I WAS A 24 YEAR OLD COMING ON TO THIS BOARD. I WOULDN'T 22 BE HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO, YOU KNOW, I 23 HAVE TO -- I GO TO -- I SHOP. I GO TO GROCERY STORES. I 24 SEE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND THEY 25 REMIND ME OF WHY I AM HERE. SO I CAN'T DIVORCE THE AUGUST 25, 2011 104 1 COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY 2 COLLEGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S 3 HOW I OPERATE. 4 AND SO WHATEVER I DO IS ALWAYS FOR THE 5 COMMUNITY. AND IT'S ALWAYS FOR STUDENTS. AND IT'S ALWAYS 6 FOR FACULTY AND TEACHERS AND WORKERS. AND, YOU KNOW, SO I 7 DON'T WANT FOLKS TO TAKE BACK A MESSAGE SAYING THAT, YOU 8 KNOW, EITHER I'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THE POLICE 9 ACADEMY. WE CERTAINLY DO. WE WANT THEM TRAINED HERE IN 10 SAN FRANCISCO. WE JUST WANT OUR FOLKS TO BE REFLECTED. I 11 DON'T WANT FOLKS TO TAKE BACK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST 12 SAYING WE ARE ALL COMMUNITY. NO, WE ARE COMMUNITY, 13 STUDENTS, AND THIS COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND THE COMMUNITY 14 ITSELF SHOULD BE MARRIED IN A VERY SEEMLESS WAY. 15 AND I JUST WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THIS IS NOT FOR 16 POLITICAL REASONS. THIS IS NOT FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAT 17 I SAW SOME GUY GET SHOT BECAUSE OF A $2 BART TICKET. AND 18 I REALLY DO THINK THAT IF THEY WERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, 19 THAT WOULD HAVE ENDED A LOT BETTER. AND THIS IS NOT A 20 SILVER BULLET OR ANY POLITICAL STATEMENT. THIS IS SIMPLY 21 SAYING WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WITH OUR 22 POWER AT CITY COLLEGE. AND I WANT TO USE THAT POWER FOR 23 SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOOD. THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS FOR 24 THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT FOR POLITICS. AND SO I REALLY 25 WANT TO BRING THAT MESSAGE HOME. AUGUST 25, 2011 105 1 AND SO LET'S JUST TAKE A VOTE, AND LET'S GET ON. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TRUSTEE -- STUDENT 3 TRUSTEE FANG. 4 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY 6 "AYE." 7 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 9 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NO. 10 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 11 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: NAY. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE MOTION CARRIES. 17 I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE A TEN MINUTE 18 RECESS. IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH PEOPLE JUST TO STRETCH OUR 19 LEGS? 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: GOOD IDEA. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WE ARE IN RECESS FOR TEN 22 MINUTES ONLY. 23 (RECESS TAKEN.) 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. 25 TRUSTEE NGO HAS REQUESTED THAT WE TAKE B1 -- AUGUST 25, 2011 106 1 TRUSTEE NGO: AND B4. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- AND B4 OUT OF ORDER. 3 TRUSTEE NGO: I AM PULLING MY PULL ON CONSENT OF 4 THESE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOUR -- 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: SO WE ARE BACK ON THE CONSENT 7 CALENDAR. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: B1 WAS NEVER ON CONSENT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO B4 IS BACK ON THE CONSENT. 10 SO WE CAN JUST VOTE ON B4 AS A CONSENT ITEM. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: CAN WE MOVE BOTH RESOLUTIONS? 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU ARE JUST GOING TO MOVE 13 THEM. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: WAIT. 15 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I THINK WE VOTED ON B4 19 EARLIER ALREADY. B3 AND B5 WERE REMOVED FROM CONSENT. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THREE AND FIVE WERE PULLED. 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 22 TRUSTEE NGO: B5 I MEANT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YOU MEANT B5. 24 ALL RIGHT. LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT B1. 25 AND, COUNSEL, IF YOU COULD READ IT AND THEN AUGUST 25, 2011 107 1 WE'LL MOVE IT. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MR. PRESIDENT, B1 IS THE 3 "RENEWAL OF A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT ESTABLISHED BY THE 4 FOUNDATION FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES FOR SOFTWARE 5 SUBSCRIPTIONS AT A FIXED COST PER DISTRICT STAFF/FACULTY 6 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT FOR THREE YEARS, ADMINISTERED BY 7 COMPUTERLAND OF SILICON VALLEY AT A TOTAL COST NOT TO 8 EXCEED $92,663 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2011-2012." 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION FOR 10 B1? 11 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO; SECONDED 13 BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 14 IS THERE A DISCUSSION? 15 NOPE, NO DISCUSSION. 16 OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT? 17 TRUSTEE -- STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL IN FAVOR? 20 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 22 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 24 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. AUGUST 25, 2011 108 1 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE OPPOSED? 3 B1 PASSES. 4 TRUSTEE NGO, DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THE OTHER ONES 5 UP OR -- 6 TRUSTEE NGO: WE RETRACTED B5, RIGHT? 7 IF NOT -- 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THREE AND FIVE WERE TAKEN OFF 9 CONSENT. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THREE AND FIVE WERE TAKEN OFF 11 THE AGENDA, OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: RIGHT. 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: CORRECT. 14 TRUSTEE NGO: DID WE -- WE DIDN'T MOVE ON B3 AND 15 B5 YET. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: CORRECT. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE HAVE NOT MOVED ON THEM. 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WE HAVE NOT. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: OKAY, I WASN'T SURE WHAT ELSE 20 TO -- SO THEY ARE NOW BACK ON CONSENT. 21 ARE YOU ASKING TO MOVE THE TWO CONSENT ITEMS ON 22 B, THE B3 AND B5. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE TAKING THESE OUT OF 24 ORDER. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THEM NOW. 25 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. AUGUST 25, 2011 109 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: ACTUALLY, MR. PRESIDENT, I 2 WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT TRUSTEE WONG TOOK B3 OFF THE 3 CONSENT CALENDAR. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S CORRECT. 5 TRUSTEE NGO: I DIDN'T REALIZE B3 WAS TAKEN OFF. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST MOVE 7 IT. 8 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B3 IS MOVED. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: WELL, I DON'T THINK I CAN MOVE B3, 11 B5. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: B5 IS MOVED. 13 TRUSTEE NGO: CORRECT. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AS A CONSENT ITEM OR -- 16 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. WELL, I DON'T HAVE TO MOVE 17 IT -- YES, AS A CONSENT ITEM, CORRECT. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 19 TRUSTEE NGO: YOU ARE NOT MOVING TO PUT IT BACK 20 ON CONSENT. YOU ARE JUST MOVING IT TO ADOPT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVING TO -- 22 COUNSEL BATTISTE: RIGHT. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- APPROVE IT OR NOT. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YOU ARE WITHDRAWING YOUR -- 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: PRESIDENT RIZZO, IF I AUGUST 25, 2011 110 1 MAY. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SO THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE 4 JUST VOTING ON IT NOW ANYWAY. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: CORRECT. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: IT'S NOT A CONCERN NOW, 7 WE JUST VOTE ON IT. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING 9 WITH IT. 10 OKAY, MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 11 IS THERE A SECOND? 12 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: SECOND. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE 14 FANG. 15 DISCUSSION? 16 OKAY, NO DISCUSSION. 17 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 18 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 20 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 21 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 22 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: (ABSENT.) 25 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. AUGUST 25, 2011 111 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 OKAY. 3 B3, DID YOU WANT TO TAKE UP B3? 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I CAN'T. I THINK TRUSTEE WONG 5 TOOK IT OFF CALENDAR. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: TRUSTEE WONG PULLED IT OFF -- 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: HE'S COMING. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, BUT WE COULD STILL VOTE 9 ON IT. 10 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: HERE HE IS. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: HE TOOK IT OFF CONSENT. 12 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE B3. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, B3 IS MOVED. 14 IS THERE A SECOND FOR B3? 15 TRUSTEE WONG: I'LL SECOND. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: I JUST WANT -- WELL, ACTUALLY I 18 GOT THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION, BUT PERHAPS IT CAN BE 19 REITERATED THE REASON FOR B3, THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT IN 20 TERMS OF COMPLIANCE ISSUE. 21 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. THE FEE BEING REQUESTED 22 AS AN ADDITION TO THAT SUBCONTRACT FOR -- CONTRACT FOR THE 23 CHINATOWN PROJECT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT IMPOSED BY THE 24 STATE FOR LABOR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S MANDATED. AUGUST 25, 2011 112 1 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IT'S MANDATED. 2 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW. 3 THANK YOU. 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: COULD YOU -- 5 PETER, COULD YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE 6 BASED ON WHAT THE COMMENTS ARE IN TERMS OF THE LCP AND THE 7 PLA. 8 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: SURE. YOU MAY ACTUALLY 9 REMEMBER THIS FIRM UNDER ITS FORMER NAME AND THE GENTLEMAN 10 DANE SOMETHING I CAN'T REMEMBER. HE'S APPEARED IN FRONT 11 OF YOU A FEW TIMES. WCS, WESTERN SOMETHING SERVICES, WAS 12 THEIR OLD NAME. THEY ARE FROM THE CENTRAL VALLEY. THEY 13 HAVE A NEW NAME OR THEY WERE BOUGHT BY ANOTHER COMPANY 14 3QC. 15 AND THIS CHANGE IN THEIR CONTRACT WOULD ALLOW 16 FOR THE LABOR COMPLIANCE PROGRAM THAT I INFORMED THE BOARD 17 ABOUT A MINUTE AGO, WHICH IS A LEGAL STATE REQUIREMENT FOR 18 ALL COMMUNITY COLLEGES THAT ARE DEALING WITH PROJECTS LIKE 19 OURS. 20 AND ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO PLAY THE ROLE THAT THEY 21 DO. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WITH RESPECT TO 22 IMPLEMENTING THE PLA IN TERMS OF DATA COLLECTION, SIFTING 23 THROUGH REPORTS FROM CONTRACTORS, VENDORS, AND SUPPLIERS. 24 THEY ARE ONE OF THE WAYS IN ADDITION TO THEIR CO-VENTURE 25 PARTNER IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF LABOR STANDARDS AND AUGUST 25, 2011 113 1 ENFORCEMENT THROUGH THAT COMBINED EFFORT WE MONITOR THE 2 PLA. SO THEY PLAY ONE ROLE, BUT NOT THE WHOLE ROLE. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO THE MONTHLY REPORTS ARE GIVEN 4 TO THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE BUT NOT TO THE PUBLIC -- 5 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WELL -- 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- DURING A BOARD MEETING? 7 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: I ACTUALLY THINK THESE ARE JUST 8 GIVEN TO THE FACILITIES OFFICE. BUT IF THE BOARD WOULD 9 LIKE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION, WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING IT TO 10 YOU. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: WELL, I WAS JUST REFERENCING -- 12 THIS INCLUDES PROVIDING MONTHLY REPORTS -- 13 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: TO THE DISTRICT. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- TO THE DISTRICT. 15 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: RIGHT. 16 TRUSTEE GRIER: SO YOU ARE SAYING IT'S A WRITTEN 17 REPORT THAT'S FILED AWAY. 18 CFO BILMONT: YES. 19 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YES. 20 SO WE WILL FORWARD THOSE TO THE BOARD MEMBERS. 21 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. THANKS. 22 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: IF WE HAVEN'T IN THE PAST, I 23 APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, I WILL JUST MENTION THE 25 FACILITIES COMMITTEE DID APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION. AUGUST 25, 2011 114 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY, SO THAT'S WHAT WAS 2 PRESENTED. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE RESOLUTION -- WE TALKED 4 ABOUT THE RESOLUTION, YEAH. AND WE WENT THROUGH THE ITEMS 5 ON IT. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: OKAY. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: CALL FOR THE QUESTION. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: FURTHER DISCUSSION? 9 PUBLIC COMMENT? 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 13 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 15 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 17 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 20 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 21 OKAY, SO THAT WAS B3 AND THAT CARRIES. 22 SO LET'S -- GETTING BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA 23 ORDER. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE REPORT FROM THE CONSTITUENT 24 GROUPS. AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE ACADEMIC SENATE, KAREN 25 SAGINOR. AUGUST 25, 2011 115 1 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KAREN 2 SAGINOR, ACADEMIC SENATE PRESIDENT. 3 MY REPORT TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE FAIRLY SHORT. 4 I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING HARD ON 5 ACCREDITATION TO GET THE -- I THINK WE ARE GOING TO CALL 6 IT THE REVIEW DRAFT. I AM NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WE ARE 7 CALLING IT. BUT WE HAVE A REAL HARD DEADLINE OF GETTING 8 IT OUT TO THE ENTIRE COLLEGE COMMUNITY. THAT'S THE 9 TRUSTEES, THE STUDENTS, THE FACULTY, ALL THE EMPLOYEES, 10 SEPTEMBER 1ST IS WHEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- AND ANYTHING 11 WE DON'T HAVE BY SEPTEMBER 1ST, IT WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND 12 COME IN LATER. 13 BUT WE DID A LOT OF WORK OVER THE SUMMER, AND I 14 REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE VARIOUS FOLKS WHO STEPPED 15 FORWARD, WHO EITHER PUT IN HOURS OR WHO RECEIVED E-MAILS 16 SAYING, WE HAVE A QUESTION ON PAGE 3, PLEASE CLARIFY, AND 17 THEY WENT AND LOOKED UP WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO 18 FIND OUT AND SENT IT BACK. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAMES OF 19 ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN HELPING ON THIS SO 20 FAR, AND WE ARE NOT DONE YET. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU 21 KNOW THAT WE ARE MOVING ALONG IN THAT AREA. 22 AS YOU ALREADY HEARD, YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST 23 MEETING OF THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL FOR THE YEAR. WE HAVE A 24 LOT OF WORK WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS SEMESTER. I 25 EXPECT WHEN I COME BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH WHICH WILL BE AUGUST 25, 2011 116 1 TWO MEETINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, I WILL HAVE ALL KINDS 2 OF THINGS TO REPORT ON. SO I AM NOT GOING TO TALK LONG 3 TONIGHT BECAUSE I WILL WANT THAT TIME NEXT TIME. I WILL 4 HAVE A LOT TO SAY A MONTH FROM NOW, SO THANK YOU VERY 5 MUCH. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 MS. SAGINOR: AND I WANTED TO INTRODUCE ALISA 8 MESSER, PRESIDENT OF AFT 2121. THANK YOU. 9 MS. MESSER: THANKS, KAREN. 10 AND HAPPY NEW SEMESTER TO YOU ALL. 11 I FEEL THE NEED TO START BY SAYING THAT ACTUALLY 12 I THINK EDUCATION IS INCREDIBLY POLITICAL. I DON'T THINK 13 EDUCATION IS ACTUALLY NOT POLITICAL, MOST ESPECIALLY 14 COMMUNITY COLLEGE EDUCATION. WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THESE 15 CHALLENGES WITH THE BUDGET AND EDUCATION, PUBLIC EDUCATION 16 IN THIS STATE WOULDN'T BE UNDER ATTACK IF IT WERE NOT 17 POLITICAL. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, BUT I THINK EVERY TIME 18 I STEP INTO A CLASSROOM, SOMETHING POLITICAL IS HAPPENING. 19 SO I APPLAUD THE BOARD FOR TAKING ON ALL OF THE 20 ISSUES IT TAKES ON. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE AND A 21 LITTLE BIT PROFOUND ACTUALLY. 22 SO I JUST WANTED TO START BY HIGHLIGHTING TWO 23 THINGS THAT ARE ON OUR MIND THIS SEMESTER. THE FIRST, YOU 24 HEARD ME TALK ABOUT RECENTLY, AND THAT'S THE STEPS THAT 25 ARE STILL MISSING. THAT WE STILL HAVE CONCESSIONS THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 117 1 ARE ONGOING FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO NOW. SO I AM JUST 2 GOING TO KEEP BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU AS A MAJOR CONCERN 3 OF OURS AS WE HAVE ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE 4 BUDGET AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE STILL HAVE MORE THAN HALF 5 OF OUR FACULTY WHO -- MORE THAN HALF OUR FULL-TIME FACULTY 6 AND THEN 75 PERCENT OF OUR PART-TIME FACULTY. AND FOR 7 FULL-TIME FACULTY THAT TRANSLATES INTO ABOUT $2,400 A 8 YEAR. SO WE ARE ON OUR THIRD YEAR OF $2,400 COMING OUT OF 9 SOME FACULTIES POCKET, NOT EVERYONE. SO THAT'S A MAJOR 10 CONCERN FOR US, RIGHT, AMONG ALL THE OTHER CONCERNS. 11 THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE REALLY PUSHING ON 12 AND WANT TO GET SOME MOVEMENT ON IS THE ISSUE OF GASB 13 REPORTING AND OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. SO THE 14 DISTRICT HAS BEEN HEARING FROM US ABOUT THAT, AND WE ARE 15 HOPING TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN. AND YOU ALL 16 KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, SO WE ARE 17 HOPING TO GET SOME TRACTION AND GET MOVING ON THAT 18 CONVERSATION. 19 WE ALSO RIGHT NOW HAVE AN OPEN CALL IN OUR 20 VOLUNTARY SICK LEAVE BANK WHICH I'VE JUST BEEN RUNNING 21 AROUND REMINDING EVERYBODY AND ASKING EVERY FACULTY MEMBER 22 I SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE VOLUNTARY 23 SICK LEAVE BANK. THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DO 24 IN COLLABORATION WITH THE DISTRICT. 25 AND THEN -- AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR AUGUST 25, 2011 118 1 HAVING THE OIL EXTRACTION TAX AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION 2 TONIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING OUR LOCAL IS SUPPORTING AND 3 COULD HAVE A REAL IMPACT. 4 FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AM HOPING 5 THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A SEMESTER AND A YEAR WHERE ALL 6 OF THE CONSTITUENCY GROUPS CAN FIND NEW WAYS TO GET ALONG 7 WITH EACH OTHER AND TO WORK TOGETHER AND TO WORK 8 COLLABORATIVELY KIND OF IN THE WAY THAT I WAS JUST TALKING 9 ABOUT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY POSSIBLE, AND IT'S A 10 POSITIVE THING. AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME WORK 11 FOR ALL PARTIES TO REALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND SORT OF 12 STEP FORWARD WITH OPEN HANDS AND OPEN HEARTS. BUT I THINK 13 THAT THE COMMUNICATION IS THERE AND IS POSSIBLE. AND I 14 LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT HAPPEN AND, HOPEFULLY, HELPING 15 MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THANKS. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 TRUSTEE GRIER: MAY I ASK A QUESTION? 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OF COURSE. 19 TRUSTEE GRIER. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 21 YOU REFERENCED THE OIL TAX. 22 MS. MESSER: YES. 23 TRUSTEE GRIER: IS THIS A REFERENCE BECAUSE IT 24 WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING -- 25 MS. MESSER: NO, IT'S A -- AUGUST 25, 2011 119 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: -- WHICH I DIDN'T ATTEND. 2 MS. MESSER: IT'S ON THIS AGENDA. 3 TRUSTEE WONG: IT'S ON THIS AGENDA, S8. 4 MS. MESSER: S8, THANK YOU. 5 TRUSTEE GRIER: YOU KNOW -- 6 TRUSTEE WONG: WE ARE SUPPORTING IT. 7 MS. MESSER: IT'S AN ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION. 8 SPEAKER UNKNOWN: YES. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT'S IN HERE. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, IT'S IN HERE. 11 MS. MESSER: SO WE'LL TAKE THAT UP LATER. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 14 CLASSIFIED SENATE, WE HAVE OUR NEW SENATE 15 PRESIDENT JAMES ROGERS. 16 MR. ROGERS: THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, JAMES 17 ROGERS, CLASSIFIED SENATE. HONORABLE TRUSTEES, CHANCELLOR 18 GRIFFIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DR. GRIFFIN FOR SWEARING US 19 IN RECENTLY LAST WEEK AT THE CLASSIFIED FLEX, FACULTY 20 FLEX. 21 THE SENATE MET YESTERDAY AND IS WORKING ON THEIR 22 FEEDBACK FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE ACCREDITATION 23 REPORT FOR WASC. WE ARE UPDATING OUR WEBSITE. THE 24 CLASSIFIED UNDERSTAND THE MAJOR BUDGET CONCERNS PULLING AT 25 THE FABRIC THAT NETS US ALTOGETHER. WE ARE VERY MUCH IN AUGUST 25, 2011 120 1 SUPPORT OF THE BOARD AND THE CHANCELLOR MAKING SMALL 2 ADJUSTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO PREVENT MAJOR CUTS AND 3 DISRUPTIONS. 4 THOUGHTFUL PRUDENT PLANNING IS THE ONLY WAY TO 5 GET THROUGH THE MIDYEAR BUDGET CUTS THAT WE DO SEE COMING 6 SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND BE FOCUSED ON 7 PROVIDING THE STUDENTS WITH THE CLASSES THEY NEED. 8 WE ARE ALSO HAPPY TO SEE THE INTENT TO PLAN FOR 9 REVENUE MEASURE IN 2012. THE CLASSIFIED CONTINUE THEIR 10 PART. AND UNDERSTAND WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER AS ALISA HAS 11 ALLUDED TO. 12 IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE TONIGHT. WE BELIEVE 13 THE EXTENSION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MASTER AGREEMENT IS 14 ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT KNITS US ALTOGETHER. 15 THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OUR NEXT REPORTS ARE FROM 19 ASSOCIATED STUDENTS. 20 IS INGRID WYNN HERE FROM EVANS CAMPUS? 21 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. 23 ROBERT ARENAS OF OCEAN CAMPUS, OUR NEW OCEAN 24 CAMPUS ASSOCIATED STUDENT PRESIDENT. 25 MR. ARENAS: GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY, PRESIDENT AUGUST 25, 2011 121 1 RIZZO, CHANCELLOR. 2 A LOT OF EXCITING STUFF HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 3 SOME STUFF NOT SO EXCITING, BUT DEFINITELY NECESSARY TO 4 GET ALONG WITH THE YEAR. 5 WE FINALLY PASSED ALL THE A.S. JOB DESCRIPTIONS 6 AND THAT WOULD BE THE STUDENT GOVERNANCE COORDINATOR, 7 A.S.C. EXECUTIVE SECRETARY, ICC ASSISTANT, THE EEDC 8 POSITION, VENDING COORDINATOR, WEB COORDINATOR, AND THEN 9 THE NCRC COORDINATOR. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE STUFF 10 JUST TO GET THE JOBS OUT THERE. WE PASSED ALL THE HIRING 11 PROCEDURES. EVERYTHING WENT BY SMOOTHLY. ALL THE HIRING 12 COMMITTEES WENT BY SMOOTHLY, ALSO SELECTED. 13 ONE OF THE MORE EXCITING THINGS IS WE ARE ABOUT 14 TO GO THROUGH A SET OF DIVERSITY TRAININGS. AND THESE ARE 15 GOING TO BE FACILITATED BY JAQUELINE FEATHERSTON. THE 16 DATES OF THESE WORKSHOPS WILL BE SEPTEMBER 7TH AND 17 SEPTEMBER 14TH. THEY WILL BE HOSTED AFTER THE A.S. WEEKLY 18 MEETINGS ON WEDNESDAYS. 19 THE THREE WORKSHOPS ARE FOCUSED ON INTERCULTURAL 20 COMMUNICATION, EFFECTIVE RESPONSE TO STUDENTS WHO HAVE 21 EXPERIENCED OR EXPERIENCING TRAUMA AND CULMINATING IN 22 STUDENT TAUGHT CLASSES. THIS WORKSHOP IS GOING TO AIM AT 23 TEACHING EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATIONS SKILLS IN ORDER TO 24 BETTER SERVE OUR STUDENTS AND TO MODEL THIS OBJECTIVE 25 THROUGH A PILOT PROGRAM OF STUDENTS TEACHING STUDENTS. AUGUST 25, 2011 122 1 AND NOW THE MOST EXCITING THING THAT WE HAVE 2 BEEN GOING THROUGH IS AS ALL YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING 3 THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH STUDENTS OPTING OUT 4 OF THE STUDENT ACTIVITIES FEE TO PAY FOR THAT. SO ONE OF 5 THE THINGS WE ARE FOCUSSING ON RIGHT NOW IS WELCOME WEEK. 6 LUCKY FOR US IT'S IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SEMESTER. 7 MORALE IS HIGH. WE HAVE THE ENERGY, AND WE ARE TRYING TO 8 USE THAT AND FOCUS IT IN ON THE STUDENTS, GETTING THEM 9 INTERESTED IN THE CLUBS EARLY ON. 10 WE HAVE A LOT OF FRESHMAN COMING IN AS THERE'S 11 USUALLY. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO 12 GET THE CLUBS OUT THERE, GET ALL THE PROGRAMS OUT THERE, 13 MAKE A TABLE, MAKE A BROCHURE. AND WE ARE LOOKING TO DO 14 SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WE ARE TRYING TO 15 INSTILL SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF LIKE A RUSH WEEK. 16 SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET OUT THERE FOR THE 17 NUMBERS. WHAT CLUB CAN PULL IN THE MOST NUMBERS? 18 I MEAN AFTER ALL WE WANT THESE CLUBS AND 19 PROGRAMS UTILIZED. I MEAN THE STUDENTS ARE PAYING FOR IT. 20 WE WANT AS MANY STUDENTS DOING IT, SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO 21 THIS BIG EVENT WHERE WE GET ALL THE CLUBS TOGETHER. GET A 22 GROUP OF MAYBE FIVE FRESHMAN IN THE HEADS OF EACH CLUB 23 WHICH WOULD CONSIDER TO BE -- AND HAVE SOME COMPETITIONS, 24 FRIENDLY COMPETITIONS DOESN'T HURT ANYBODY, AND IT'S 25 SOMETHING TO GET THE STUDENTS INTERESTED IN TO GET MORALE AUGUST 25, 2011 123 1 HIGH, GET THEIR HEADS BACK IN SCHOOL AND INSTILL A LITTLE 2 PRIDE BACK IN CITY COLLEGE SO THE STUDENTS CAN KNOW WHY 3 THEY ARE THERE, AND WHY THEY ARE CHOOSING THAT SCHOOL OVER 4 EVERYWHERE ELSE. SO THAT'S MY REPORT. THANK YOU. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 OKAY, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE MONTHLY 7 FINANCIAL REPORT. 8 GOOD NEWS FOR US, MR. GOLDSTEIN? 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: NO, I'M AFRAID NOT. WELL, WE 10 ARE STILL HERE. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. 11 THE BUDGET COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD MET EARLIER 12 THIS MONTH. AND I KNOW THAT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE OF THE 13 BOARD EXPECTS TO MEET AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER. OF COURSE, IN 14 SEPTEMBER WE WILL BE ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE A FINAL 15 BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2011-2012, AND I AM SURE THAT WILL 16 BE THE FOCUS OF THE NEXT BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING. 17 FOR THOSE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE MOST 18 RECENT MEETING, I WILL JUST SUMMARIZE BY SAYING THAT WE DO 19 HAVE OUR FINAL NUMBERS -- SORT OF FINAL NUMBERS FROM THE 20 STATE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE SHOULD EXPECT TO LOSE. AND 21 OUR REDUCED FUNDING, OF COURSE, IS VERY DRAMATIC AS IT IS 22 FOR ALL COMMUNITY COLLEGES THIS YEAR. WE WILL BE 23 EXPECTING TO LOSE MORE THAN $13 MILLION IN FUNDS THAT COME 24 RIGHT NOW OUT OF THE POT THAT PAYS FOR CLASSES FOR 25 COUNSELING, FOR ADMISSIONS AND RECORDS, THINGS THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 124 1 STUDENTS DEPEND ON. 2 WE DID EXPECT A SIGNIFICANT CUT. SO IN THE 3 TENTATIVE BUDGET THE BOARD ADOPTED, WE BENCHMARKED THAT 4 REDUCTION AT 14 MILLION, SO I WOULDN'T CALL IT GOOD NEWS, 5 JUST INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T NEED TO RE-BENCH THAT 6 HIGHER. 7 BUT, OF COURSE, THE WARNINGS ARE STILL THERE 8 FROM SACRAMENTO THAT THE FUNDING CAN'T BE TOTALLY 9 DEPENDANT ON. AND THAT EARLY NUMBERS FROM THE STATE WERE 10 VERY WEAK IN TERMS OF STATE REVENUE IN JULY. 11 OF COURSE, WE ALL HOPE THAT TURNS AROUND, BUT 12 THAT WAS SUCH A BAD START THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO ASSUME 13 THAT THE STATE TIER ONE, TIER TWO CUTS THAT ARE ATTACHED 14 TO A TRIGGER ARE COMING IN THE WAY OF THE COMMUNITY 15 COLLEGES LATER IN THE YEAR. 16 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS A BIG DROP IN THE FTES 17 REQUIRED OF THE DISTRICT, MORE THAN 3,000 POTENTIALLY. I 18 WOULD LABEL THAT AS THE DEFUNDING OF HIGHER EDUCATION IN 19 CALIFORNIA BY OUR STATE GOVERNMENT. THEY COULD NOT REACH 20 AN AGREEMENT ON A DECENT WAY TO CONTINUE FUNDING THAT'S 21 DESPERATELY NEEDED AT THIS TIME. 22 I KNOW THE BOARD DOES HAVE TWO ITEMS ON ITS 23 AGENDA THIS EVENING THAT SPEAK TO POTENTIAL REVENUE FOR 24 ALL COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND FOR SAN FRANCISCO'S COMMUNITY 25 COLLEGE. I WILL SIMPLY SAY WHEN THE STATE TAKES AWAY AS AUGUST 25, 2011 125 1 MUCH AS 13 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE FROM SAN 2 FRANCISCO'S COMMUNITY COLLEGE, WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER 3 SOURCE OF REVENUE OR WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO 4 THE SAME THING FOR STUDENTS. THAT'S MY REPORT. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 VICE CHANCELLOR, I REMEMBER JUST ONE THING I 7 THINK WE SHOULD POINT OUT. AT THE BUDGET COMMITTEE GOING 8 THROUGH THE ASSUMPTIONS FOR REVENUE AND EXPENSES, IT LOOKS 9 LIKE WE'RE COMING OUT ABOUT $1 MILLION IN THE HOLE AFTER 10 THIS RECENT -- 11 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: -- BUDGET CHANGE OF THE STATE 13 GOVERNMENT. 14 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: YEAH, PERHAPS EVEN A LITTLE 15 MORE THAN THAT -- 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 17 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: -- I WOULD SAY. AND THAT'S 18 BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE BENEFIT OF TIME WE'VE HAD TO LOOK 19 BACK AT SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS WE MADE IN JUNE WITH 20 RESPECT TO POTENTIAL SAVINGS AND CERTAIN AREAS AS WELL AS 21 POTENTIAL FUNDRAISING TARGETS. 22 AND WHEN YOU SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME LOOKING AT 23 SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS, THEY DON'T STAND UP QUITE AS WELL 24 RIGHT NOW AS WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD IN JUNE SO THAT WILL BE 25 A VERY FOCUSED PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT THE BOARD'S AUGUST 25, 2011 126 1 BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, ALONG WITH IDEAS TO 2 TRY TO FILL THAT GAP AS ITS EMERGED. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AND WE WILL BE -- ALSO AT THE 4 BOARD MEETING, WE WILL BE APPROVING A FINAL BUDGET IN 5 SEPTEMBER. 6 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: THAT'S CORRECT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'LL HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER 8 MILLION. 9 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH, OKAY. THANK YOU. 11 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE VICE CHANCELLOR? 12 ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE REST OF THE 13 RESOLUTIONS AGENDA. AND WE'VE DONE THE B'S. 14 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WE ARE ON F1. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I'M SORRY. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: F1. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F1. 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHAT ABOUT C1 AND C2? 20 TRUSTEE NGO: THEY WERE ON CONSENT. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THEY WERE ON CONSENT. 22 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YEP, ALL OF THE C'S WERE ON 23 CONSENT. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: YEAH. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: F1. AUGUST 25, 2011 127 1 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, F1 IS THE 2 "RESIGNATION OF AN ACADEMIC ADMINISTRATOR, THE ASSOCIATE 3 DEAN OF HUMAN RESOURCES." 4 TRUSTEE NGO: I MOVE F1. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 6 IS THERE A SECOND? 7 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 9 JUST CURIOUS, WHAT HAPPENED -- THIS IS THE 10 ACCEPTING OF A RESIGNATION OF SOMEONE. WHAT IF WE 11 DON'T -- WHAT HAPPENED IF WE DIDN'T ACCEPT THE 12 RECOGNITION? FORCE THE PERSON TO CONTINUE WORKING OR -- 13 COUNSEL BATTISTE: WELL -- 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ONE OF THOSE CRAZY GOVERNMENT 15 THINGS. 16 COUNSEL BATTISTE: CRAZY. 17 TRUSTEE NGO: MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT IF WE 18 DECIDE TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION. WHAT ELSE SHOULD WE MAKE 19 HER DO? 20 CALL THE QUESTION. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 22 NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 23 TRUSTEE -- 24 TRUSTEE BERG: ACTUALLY, WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE 25 HAVE TO GET THEM OFFICIALLY OFF THE PAYROLL. SO IT'S TO AUGUST 25, 2011 128 1 OUR ADVANTAGE WHETHER THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE OR NOT, BUT WE 2 NEED TO TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION TO -- 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GET THEM OFF. 4 TRUSTEE BERG: -- TO NOT PAY THEM ANYMORE. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THAT'S A GOOD REASON TO VOTE. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: THAT'S THE BEST REASON TO VOTE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: STUDENT TRUSTEE. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 18 OKAY, F1 IS APPROVED. 19 F2. 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, F2 IS 21 "RENAMING THE ACADEMIC ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION OF THE VICE 22 CHANCELLOR CAMPUSES FOR SOUTHEAST/EVANS, MISSION, CIVIC 23 CENTER, FINANCIAL AID, ADMISSIONS AND RECORDS, AND NEW 24 STUDENT COUNSELING TO THE VICE CHANCELLOR CAMPUSES AND 25 ENROLLMENT SERVICES." AUGUST 25, 2011 129 1 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL EAGERLY MOVE THIS. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 3 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SECOND. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE JACKSON. 5 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 6 TRUSTEE NGO: YES, I WANT TO THANK THE 7 CHANCELLOR FOR RENAMING THIS POSITION. IT WOULD HAVE 8 OTHERWISE BEEN A VERY AWKWARD -- 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: MOUTHFUL. 10 TRUSTEE NGO: -- AND DIFFICULT ACRONYM TO CALL 11 THAT POSITION. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? 13 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 14 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): A RESOUNDINGLY 15 AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 17 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 18 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 19 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 21 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 23 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 25 F2 CARRIES. AUGUST 25, 2011 130 1 F3. 2 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, F3 IS 3 "RENAMING THE ACADEMIC ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION FROM VICE 4 CHANCELLOR POLICY AND RESEARCH TO VICE CHANCELLOR RESEARCH 5 AND POLICY." 6 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL MOVE IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 8 IS THERE A SECOND? 9 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 11 ANY DISCUSSION? 12 TRUSTEE NGO: JUST THAT I WILL TALK TO THE VICE 13 CHANCELLOR ABOUT THIS AFTER THE MEETING BECAUSE I'M REALLY 14 CURIOUS WHY. NO OBJECTION OTHERWISE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, PUBLIC COMMENT? 16 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 17 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 19 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 21 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 22 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 23 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 25 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. AUGUST 25, 2011 131 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 2 F3 IS APPROVED. 3 4 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE ARE UP TO THE S'S. 6 COUNSEL BATTISTE: -- 5. 7 TRUSTEE WONG: S5. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S5, YES. 9 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. 10 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: LET'S HAVE THE READING FIRST. 12 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S5 IS THE 13 "RESOLUTION DECLARING THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE SAN 14 FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT INTENT TO PLAN FOR A 15 REVENUE MEASURE ON THE NOVEMBER 2012 BALLOT." 16 TRUSTEE NGO: SO MOVED. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 18 TRUSTEE BERG: SECOND. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE BERG. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: YEAH, THIS ONE I AM VERY MUCH IN 21 FAVOR OF. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SO I WROTE THIS IN 23 COLLABORATION WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT. IT 24 BASICALLY DECLARES THAT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES' DECLARES 25 ITS INTENT TO PUT A REVENUE MEASURE ON THE NOVEMBER 2012 AUGUST 25, 2011 132 1 BALLOT. AND IT ESTABLISHES PROCEDURES, PROCEDURES TO MAKE 2 THE STEPS NECESSARY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THAT'S ABOUT IT. 3 IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? 4 PUBLIC COMMENT? 5 OKAY, THAT WAS EASY. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 8 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 9 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 11 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 12 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 13 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 15 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 17 OKAY, S5 IS APPROVED. 18 S6. 19 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES. 20 TRUSTEE BERG: MOVE S6. 21 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT -- OH, 22 SORRY. 23 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PLEASE, LET COUNSEL. 24 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S6 IS THE 25 "AUTHORIZATION TO ENCUMBER THE DISTRICT OF THE WRITTEN AUGUST 25, 2011 133 1 PROTOCOL TO CLEARLY DELINEATE THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE 2 AUTHORITY TO FINANCIALLY ENCUMBER OR OTHERWISE LEGALLY OR 3 FINANCIALLY OBLIGATE THE DISTRICT TO THIRD PARTIES." 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: TRUSTEE BERG, I TAKE THAT AS A 5 MOTION. 6 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, I MOVED IT. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: IS THERE A SECOND? 8 TRUSTEE NGO: I WILL SECOND IT. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: SECONDED BY TRUSTEE NGO. 10 TRUSTEE NGO, YOU ARE THE AUTHOR OF THIS. 11 TRUSTEE NGO: YES. 12 PRESIDENT RIZZO: DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT? 13 TRUSTEE NGO: SO THIS IS THE ACTUAL S RESOLUTION 14 THAT'S SUPPOSED TO ACCOMPANY THE "P" WE ADOPTED LAST 15 MONTH. THIS WAS NOT DRAFTED BY THE BOARD. IT WAS -- THE 16 ACTUAL MATRIX WAS DRAFTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION AFTER 17 CONSULTATION WITH APPROPRIATE PARTIES. 18 THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS LONG BEEN CALLED FOR. 19 WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY WRITTEN -- ANYTHING EXPRESSED ABOUT 20 WHO AND FOR HOW MUCH? 21 ANYONE AT THE DISTRICT CAN SIGN OFF ON A 22 CONTRACT OR AN INVOICE. AND I WOULD SAY THAT GENERALLY 23 THIS CONFORMS WITH CURRENT PRACTICES, BUT TO THE EXTENT 24 THAT IT DOESN'T, IT DOES SO TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MEETING 25 PROPER ACCOUNTING AND AUDITING PRINCIPLES. AUGUST 25, 2011 134 1 AND I WELCOME PETER TO COME UP IF HE WANTS TO 2 TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. AND I WOULD URGE 3 MY COLLEAGUES TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. 4 VCFA GOLDSTEIN: JUST BRIEFLY, TRUSTEE NGO, WHAT 5 WE ARE DOING HERE IS TO SOME EXTENT CODIFYING WHAT WE 6 ALREADY DO, TO SOME EXTENT MODIFYING. AND I THINK IT'S A 7 GOOD DECISION. IT WILL BE CLEAR TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO 8 PROCESS DOCUMENTS, WHAT AUTHORITY THEY ARE LOOKING FOR 9 WHEN THEY PROCESS IT. IT DOES LEAVE PRACTICAL ROOM IN 10 THERE TO MAKE CHANGES AS WE FIND THAT CERTAIN THINGS NEED 11 SOME EXCEPTION BUILT IN. 12 AND IF IT'S NECESSARY, EVEN TO COME BACK TO THE 13 BOARD IN THE FUTURE TO AMEND IT, WE'LL DO THAT. BUT IT'S 14 A GOOD START TO FORMALIZE AND IT ADDRESSES AN AUDIT 15 FINDING. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: GREAT. 17 ANY OTHER COMMENT? 18 I'LL MENTION THAT IF WE KNOW -- IF YOU LOOK AT 19 THE TOP OF THE FIRST PAGE, IT NOTES THAT THE AUDIT 20 COMMITTEE ON APRIL 8TH VOTED THIS OUT OF COMMITTEE. IT'S 21 BEEN VETTED VERY THROUGHLY, AND IT'S A VERY GOOD THING. 22 IT SPECIFIES WHO -- WHAT TYPES OF POSITIONS CAN SIGN OFF 23 ON INVOICES AND ALSO ON CONTRACTS AND THEIR DIFFERENT SETS 24 OF PEOPLE. IT'S A VERY GOOD CONTROL MEASURE. IT WAS 25 RECOMMENDED BY THE INTERNAL AUDITOR AND POSSIBLY AN AUDIT. AUGUST 25, 2011 135 1 I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS AN AUDIT FINDING. IT WAS, 2 YEAH. SO WE ARE RESPONDING TO THE AUDIT FINDING IN THIS. 3 IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? 4 OKAY, SEEING NONE, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? 5 STUDENT TRUSTEE. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 8 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 9 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 10 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 12 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 14 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OPPOSED? 16 S6 CARRIES. 17 S7 WE'VE DONE. 18 COUNSEL BATTISTE: S8. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: S8. 20 COUNSEL BATTISTE: YES, MR. PRESIDENT, S8 IS THE 21 "SAN FRANCISCO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT BOARD OF 22 TRUSTEES ENDORSEMENT OF CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 1481, THE 23 PROPOSED OIL EXTRACTION FEE TO RESCUE HIGHER EDUCATION 24 INITIATIVE." 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR AUGUST 25, 2011 136 1 S8? 2 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: I MOVE S8. 3 TRUSTEE GRIER: I'LL MOVE S8. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOVED BY STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG 5 AND SECONDED BY I'LL TAKE TRUSTEE GRIER'S SIMULTANEOUS 6 MOTION AS A SECOND. 7 I WILL JUST MENTION THAT WE DID -- PREVIOUSLY WE 8 ENDORSED SIMILAR LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HAVE CREATED AN 9 OIL EXTRACTION TAX. IT WAS ALBERTO TORRICO'S LEGISLATION 10 THAT DIED IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE. AND THERE'S A GROUP 11 PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT. SO IT'S -- I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE 12 US TO CONTINUE OUR SUPPORT OF THIS IDEA. 13 TRUSTEE GRIER: MAY I ASK PROFESSOR SCOTT TO 14 COME UP. I SAW HIM AT FLEX DAY, AND HE WAS GETTING 15 SIGNATURES. COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT? 16 MR. SCOTT: I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW MY COMRADE 17 COLLEAGUE MADELINE MUELLER ON THIS. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: I DIDN'T KNOW THEY ARE HERE. 19 MR. SCOTT: SHE AND I BOTH FILLED OUT CARDS. 20 MS. MUELLER: MINE IS JUST BECAUSE SEEING THIS 21 RESOLUTION WAS A DÉJÀ VU OVER AS YOU SAID -- WE HAVE BEEN 22 DOWN THIS TRACK. I STARTED GOING THROUGH SOME BOXES OF 23 STUFF, CAME ACROSS A LETTER I WROTE IN SUPPORT OF 24 EXTRACTION TAX SOME TIME AGO. 25 NOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A QUIZ. THIS LETTER WAS AUGUST 25, 2011 137 1 PUBLISHED IN MANY NEWSPAPERS UP AND DOWN THE STATE. I AM 2 READING FROM THE -- MY COPY FROM THE LA TIMES, BUT I AM 3 NOT GETTING YOU THE NAME OF THE GOVERNOR THAT I MENTIONED 4 OR THE DATE. SO YOU GET TO TELL ME. 5 IT SAYS, "THE GOVERNOR SAYS HE FAVORS CHARGING 6 TUITION TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS BECAUSE, QUOTES, ALL 7 OTHER STATES CHARGE SUCH FEES. THE GOVERNOR IS VERY 8 SELECTIVE IN THIS REASONING. ALL OTHER OIL PRODUCING 9 STATES LEVY OIL EXTRACTION TAXES. TAXES THAT IN MANY SUCH 10 STATES SUPPORT THE COST OF EDUCATION. 11 "CALIFORNIA IS UNIQUE IN NOT TELLING ITS OIL 12 INDUSTRY TO APPROPRIATELY SHARE PROFITS WITH ITS PEOPLE. 13 THE GOVERNOR IS SELECTED TO SERVE UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION 14 FOR THE PEOPLE. INSTEAD, THE GOVERNOR REPORTS HE IS 15 DELIGHTED TO SEVERELY CUT EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR 16 CALIFORNIA ADULTS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME GIVING TAX BREAKS 17 TO WEALTHY INDUSTRIES. HIS LOGIC POLICIES AND EMOTIONS 18 SEEM TO FAVOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CLASS STRUCTURE 19 SOCIETY WHERE MOST PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY POOR, ARE TO BE 20 DENIED OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADVANCEMENT WHILE THE PRIVILEGED 21 ARE PROTECTED. 22 "IN WEALTHY CIRCLES, IT HAS BECOME STYLISH TO 23 SAY THAT EDUCATION IS A PRIVILEGE RATHER THAN A RIGHT, 24 WRONG. RATHER EDUCATION IS A RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL. 25 EVERY PERSON HAS THE LIFELONG RESPONSIBILITY TO WORK AUGUST 25, 2011 138 1 TOWARD REACHING HIS OR HER FULLEST POTENTIAL WHILE 2 GOVERNMENT AND SOCIETY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE 3 EACH INDIVIDUAL AN EQUAL AND LIFELONG OPPORTUNITY TO 4 ATTAIN THAT GOAL. THE GOVERNOR MUST LEARN THIS." 5 WHO WROTE THAT? AND WHEN -- I MEAN I WROTE IT. 6 BUT WHO'S THE GOVERNOR? AND WHEN? 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: RONALD -- 8 TRUSTEE GRIER: REAGAN. NO? 9 TRUSTEE WONG: DEUKMEJIAN. 10 MS. MUELLER: THE DUKE. 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YOU JUST MISSED IT BY ONE. 12 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH. 13 MS. MUELLER: AND THIS LETTER WAS PUBLISHED 14 SEPTEMBER 1983. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 16 MS. MUELLER: TIMES DON'T CHANGE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: RODGER SCOTT. 18 MR. SCOTT: RODGER SCOTT, FACULTY AND AFT 2121. 19 A BIT OF TRIVIA, MADELINE MUELLER AND I HAVE A 20 TOTAL OF 85 YEARS SERVICE AT THIS INSTITUTION. 21 AND ANOTHER BIT OF TRIVIA, THE LEAD PROPONENT OF 22 THIS INITIATIVE WAS A PART-TIME INSTRUCTOR IN POLITICAL 23 SCIENCE UNDER DARLENE ALIOTO'S DEPARTMENT. HIS NAME 24 WAS -- AT THE TIME HE WENT BY EPAN MATTHEWS (PHONETIC), 25 PETER IS THE OTHER NAME, AND THAT'S WHAT HE USES NOW. AUGUST 25, 2011 139 1 I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT 2 ISSUES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA IN 3 MANY YEARS. AS YOU ALL KNOW PROBABLY, IT IS UNPRECEDENTED 4 AS LESLIE SMITH AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE POINTED OUT TO GET 5 AN ISSUE LIKE THIS ON THE BALLOT THROUGH VOLUNTEER 6 SIGNATURE GATHERERS. RICH PEOPLE AND RICH CORPORATIONS 7 CAN PUT ANY NUMBER OF THINGS ON THE BALLOT IN CALIFORNIA 8 BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY A CONSIDERABLE PREMIUM 9 FOR THE SIGNATURES. 10 IT'S ALSO UNPRECEDENTED THAT WE HAVE IN THIS 11 COUNTRY THE DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH THAT MAKES US IN MY 12 JUDGEMENT AN OLIGARCHY RATHER THAN A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY 13 WHEN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION CONTROLS 40 PERCENT OF 14 THE WEALTH AND THEN THE SECOND PERCENTILE CONTROLS IF YOU 15 COMBINE THE TWO, THE TOP TWO CONTROL ALMOST 70 PERCENT OF 16 OUR NATION'S WEALTH. 17 AND IN MY JUDGEMENT, THERE'S A CONNECTION 18 BETWEEN THAT AND THE HEALTHCARE INFLATION RATE AND THE 19 RECENT MOMENTABLE FACT THAT MIDDLE CLASS CALIFORNIANS AND 20 WORKING CLASS CALIFORNIANS HAVE VERY FEW OPTIONS NOW TO 21 GET A GOOD QUALITY HIGHER EDUCATION. 22 I THINK THOSE THINGS TOGETHER MAKE US UNITED IN 23 WAYS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN A LONG TIME. I THINK THAT 24 THOSE TWO CONDITIONS EMPOWER STUDENTS IN WAYS THEY HAVEN'T 25 BEEN EMPOWERED SINCE THE 60'S. BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 140 1 DISPARITY AND WEALTH AND THE PENALTY OF THE STUDENTS 2 HAVING TO PAY, RIGHT NOW THE AVERAGE GRADUATE WITH A 3 BACHELOR'S DEGREE OWES $22,900 ON AVERAGE AND SOME OWE UP 4 TO $90,000, AND THAT'S SIMPLY OUTRAGEOUS. IT'S 5 UNDEMOCRATIC. IT'S A TERRIBLE THING. 6 I THINK THE STUDENTS FEEL A SENSE OF EMPOWERMENT 7 NOW THAT'S PARTLY RIGHTEOUS ANGER AND ENLIGHTENS 8 SELF-INTEREST AND MILITANT SELF-INTEREST AS WELL. 9 I THINK THE COLLABORATION OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR 10 CITY COLLEGE COMMUNITY WILL MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF 11 DIFFERENCE. AFT 2121 WAS THE FIRST AFT LOCAL IN THE STATE 12 TO ENDORSE THIS. SAN FRANCISCO LABOR COUNCIL WAS THE 13 FIRST LABOR COUNCIL TO ENDORSE IT. WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE 14 LIKE WALTER JOHNSON, MICHAEL PERENTE, A HERO OF MINE A 15 FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE DISTRICT JOE BERRY, WHO HAS BEEN 16 THE MOST EFFECTIVE ADVOCATE FOR PART-TIME FACULTY IN THE 17 COUNTRY PROBABLY, IS STRONGLY BEHIND IT. 18 SO I THINK WE WILL DO A GOOD JOB. I THINK WE 19 HAVE A CHANCE OF PREVAILING. AND I THINK WE HAVE A VERY 20 GOOD CHANCE OF MAKING HISTORY. 21 AND AS MADELINE POINTED OUT, THE TERRICO BILL 22 AND OTHERS SIMPLY HAVE NO CHANCE OF GETTING THROUGH THE 23 CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE. THIS IS A SLIM CHANCE, BUT I 24 THINK WORKING TOGETHER WE WILL DO IT. 25 BY THE WAY AFT 2121 IS HOSTING A FUND-RAISER -- AUGUST 25, 2011 141 1 A STRATEGY SESSION AND FUND-RAISER A WEEK FROM TODAY AT 2 5:00 O'CLOCK. AND WE WILL EXPECT AND HOPE MANY OF YOU 3 WILL BE THERE READY TO CONTRIBUTE MONEY, TIME, AND 4 ENTHUSIASM FOR A GOOD CAUSE. THANK YOU. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 6 STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOU ARE THE AUTHOR. WOULD YOU 7 LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: YES. FIRST OF ALL, I 9 ACTUALLY WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, CHANCELLOR, TO YOUR 10 OFFICE AND YOUR STAFF, AS WELL AS THANK YOU TO PRESIDENT 11 RIZZO FOR FIRST CO-SPONSORING THIS WITH ME, AS WELL AS THE 12 CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE FOR ACCOMMODATING ME SENDING THIS IN 13 ON THE SHORT NOTICE. 14 IN MY VIEW, THIS IS VERY MUCH NEEDED. WE HAVE 15 EXHAUSTED WAYS TO TRY TO GET REVENUE STREAM THROUGH 16 LEGISLATURE AND THROUGH MARCHES AND THROUGH, YOU KNOW, 17 LEGISLATIVE VISITS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, 18 I KNOW I LOSE SLEEP OVER IT. AND THIS WEEK -- IF WE CAN 19 GET -- IF WE CAN ENDORSE THIS MOVEMENT, IT WILL PUBLICLY 20 TAKE A SHOW THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT GETTING MONEY TO 21 FUND EDUCATION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING 22 ABOUT IN THIS DISTRICT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR -- I MEAN LAST 23 YEAR. AND I'M SURE WE'VE BEEN TAKING ABOUT IT YEARS AND 24 YEARS BEFORE, AND WE WILL KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE SAME 25 THING. AUGUST 25, 2011 142 1 SO IN MY MIND, I THINK THAT'S -- FIRST, THANK 2 YOU. IT'S NEEDED. AND I WILL LEAVE THAT FOR ALL OF YOU 3 TO DECIDE HOW TO VOTE. 4 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 5 ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? 6 PUBLIC COMMENT? 7 OKAY, STUDENT TRUSTEE, YOUR VOTE. 8 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG (ADVISORY): AYE. 9 PRESIDENT RIZZO: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 10 TRUSTEE BERG: AYE. 11 TRUSTEE GRIER: AYE. 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AYE. 13 TRUSTEE MARKS: (ABSENT.) 14 TRUSTEE NGO: AYE. 15 PRESIDENT RIZZO: AYE. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: AYE. 17 PRESIDENT RIZZO: MOTION CARRIES. 18 MR. SCOTT: UNANIMOUS. 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: UNANIMOUSLY, YES. 20 TRUSTEE GRIER: PRESIDENT RIZZO. 21 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 22 TRUSTEE GRIER: I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE AN OLD 23 COPY OR NEW COPY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 4 OF THE AGENDA, 24 I THINK THE WORD IS "RESCUE" NOT "RECUE." 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, THAT'S A TYPO. AUGUST 25, 2011 143 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: I THINK IT'S A TYPO. THAT NEEDS 2 TO BE CORRECTED. 3 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WHERE IS THAT? 4 TRUSTEE GRIER: IT'S S8 ON PAGE 4 OF THE AGENDA. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: PAGE 4 OF THE AGENDA. 6 TRUSTEE GRIER: YES. 7 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THE AGENDA ITSELF. 8 MR. SCOTT: PRESIDENT RIZZO, CAN I ADD SOMETHING 9 ALSO. 10 TRUSTEE GRIER: HERE ITSELF. 11 MR. SCOTT: THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE 12 STUDENTS MAKE UP MORE THAN 80 PERCENT OF ALL THE STUDENTS 13 IN HIGHER EDUCATION. AND FOR MANY YEARS, THE COMMUNITY 14 COLLEGE SYSTEM HAS BEEN THE POLITICAL VANGUARD OF THE 15 STATE AND THAT WOULD BE THE CASE HERE. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 YES, IF WE COULD -- WE DO KNOW THAT CORRECTION 18 THAT TRUSTEE GRIER POINTED OUT -- IF WE COULD HAVE THAT 19 CORRECTED FOR THE RECORD AND FOR THE WEBSITE. 20 MR. SCOTT: ONE OF OUR MANY INTERESTS IS VICE 21 CHANCELLOR SMITH MADE COMMENTS ON OUR (INAUDIBLE) PROCESS. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WELL, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED 23 THIS ITEM. SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR BOARD OF 24 TRUSTEES' REPORTS. 25 WHY DON'T WE START OVER THERE. AUGUST 25, 2011 144 1 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT TO 2 GIVE US? 3 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU, ONCE AGAIN. 4 I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY TAKE THIS MOMENT TO 5 ACKNOWLEDGE THREE GUESTS TO OUR DISTRICT TONIGHT. 6 FIRST I WILL GO WITH BARRY JOINTER, THE STUDENT 7 TRUSTEE OF THE COLLEGE OF SAN MATEO. 8 RICH COPENHAGEN, LOVING OUR DISTRICT, VISITING A 9 SECOND TIME, PERALTA DISTRICT STUDENT TRUSTEE. 10 AS WELL AS RAEMOND BERGSTROM-WOOD, COLLEGE OF 11 MARIN STUDENT TRUSTEE. 12 SO IT'S DEFINITELY A VALIDATION OF WHAT I 13 MENTIONED LAST MONTH THAT WE ARE BEGINNING A PROJECT OF 14 STUDENT TRUSTEES VISITING EACH OTHERS DISTRICTS TO FIND 15 OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, BEST PRACTICES, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES 16 ACROSS THE BOARD, TO SEE HOW WE COULD WORK TOGETHER. SO 17 FRUITION IS ALREADY COMING ABOUT. AND WE WILL BE VISITING 18 OTHER COLLEGES TOGETHER NEXT MONTH OR IN A ANOTHER WEEK OR 19 SO. 20 AND AS FAR AS THE ASSOCIATED STUDENT EXECUTIVE 21 BOARD, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH PRESIDENT RIZZO 22 TO COME UP WITH POTENTIAL DATES FOR A JOINT MEETING WITH 23 THE BOARD. AND I WILL FINAL -- I WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO 24 THE VARIOUS CAMPUSES AND FINALIZE THAT AND FORWARD 25 INFORMATION TO THE BOARD MEMBERS, AND WE CAN NAIL DOWN A AUGUST 25, 2011 145 1 DATE. AND IT WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER, SO I WILL BE WORKING 2 HARD TO GET THAT GOING. 3 LAST PIECE OF INFORMATION, I JUST LIKE TO SHARE 4 WITH THE BOARD. I LOOK INTO THIS NICE BOOK MYSELF FOR 5 FUTURE REFERENCE. CALLING THE QUESTION, REQUIRES A 6 SECOND. AND IT'S NOT DEBATABLE. YOU JUST VOTE ON IT. 7 WHEN IT'S UTTERED, YOU ACTUALLY VOTE ON CALLING THE 8 QUESTION TO BASICALLY END THE DISCUSSION OR NOT. AND SO 9 IT WILL HELP JUST FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION. 10 MR. TETI: AND WHAT VOTE DOES IT TAKE? 11 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THE VOTE -- IF YOU 12 VOTE -- WHEN CALLING THE QUESTION IS UTTERED, THE VOTE IS 13 TO END THE DEBATE, NOT TO -- 14 MR. TETI: NO, WHAT KIND OF MAJORITY? 15 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: TWO-THIRDS. TWO-THIRDS 16 IS REQUIRED JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION. 17 TRUSTEE WONG: HE'S TESTING YOU. 18 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THANK YOU. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: HE'S TESTING YOU. 20 STUDENT TRUSTEE FANG: THAT'S ALL. THAT ENDS MY 21 REPORT. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 23 TRUSTEE WONG. 24 TRUSTEE WONG: I DON'T REALLY HAVE A REPORT. I 25 JUST WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY BACK FOR ANOTHER SEMESTER AUGUST 25, 2011 146 1 FOR HANGING IN THERE. IT'S NEVER TOUGH (SIC). ACTUALLY, 2 TODAY WE ARE PRETTY GOOD. IT'S 9:35 SO WE ARE PRETTY 3 GOOD. 4 AND I THINK, PRESIDENT RIZZO -- 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES. 6 TRUSTEE WONG: -- DON'T WE HAVE TO HAVE A 7 RETREAT FOR THE ACCREDITATION -- 8 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: YES, WE DO. 9 TRUSTEE WONG: -- BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR. 10 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YES, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO 11 SAY THAT IN MY REPORT. THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A 12 RETREAT, EITHER IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER. 13 TRUSTEE WONG: OH, OKAY. 14 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THE CHANCELLOR AND I HAVE 15 ALREADY DISCUSSED IT. 16 TRUSTEE WONG: OKAY, YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S 17 REQUIRED. 18 PRESIDENT RIZZO: YEAH. 19 TRUSTEE WONG: SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING 20 ELSE TO SAY, EXCEPT FOR WELCOME BACK AND THANK YOU FOR 21 HANGING IN THERE. THANK YOU. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, TRUSTEE BERG. 23 TRUSTEE BERG: YES, I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT I 24 HAVE BEEN INVITED TO THE STATEWIDE ACADEMIC SENATE MEETING 25 IN SAN DIEGO IN NOVEMBER. I HOPE SOME OF YOU WOULD JOIN AUGUST 25, 2011 147 1 ME. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT I AM PAYING MY OWN WAY. 2 THE DISTRICT WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING. BUT I REALLY 3 LOOK FORWARD TO GOING. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY 4 EXCITING, AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL BE THERE. 5 AND I HAVE JUST THE SAME STATEMENT AS TRUSTEE 6 WONG. I AM REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ALL OF YOU. I AM TERRIBLY 7 SORRY I MISSED FLEX DAY. I NEVER MISS FLEX DAY, BUT IT 8 REALLY WAS EXTENUATING PHYSICAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT KEPT ME 9 AWAY. 10 BUT WELCOME BACK AND HAVE A GREAT SEMESTER. AND 11 WE ARE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE YOU BACK BECAUSE I'M SURE WE 12 ARE GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, TRUSTEE BERG. 14 TRUSTEE GRIER. 15 TRUSTEE GRIER: OH, THANK YOU. 16 JUST A BRIEF REPORT. AS A MEMBER OF THE 17 ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRUSTEES, WE HAD OUR 18 BOARD MEETING IN CHARLOTTE, SOUTH CAROLINA (SIC)'. IT WAS 19 REAL INTERESTING BECAUSE THE MAYOR DID A WELCOME TO THE 20 TRUSTEES THAT WERE THERE WELCOMING US TO THEIR CITY. THEY 21 HAVE THIS REALLY BIG CONTRACT WITH BOEING IN CHARLOTTE, 22 SOUTH CAROLINA. IT'S JUST A FABULOUS PLACE. IT'S TOO 23 HOT. AND BEING FROM SAN FRANCISCO, I DON'T KNOW HOW I 24 MADE IT THROUGH 95-DEGREE WEATHER. IT WAS REAL DIFFICULT. 25 BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS SAID AT THE AUGUST 25, 2011 148 1 BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING WAS THAT SAN FRANCISCO USED TO BE 2 NO. 2 ON THE LIST OF TOURIST PLACES TO VISIT, PLACES 3 TRAVEL, AND WE'VE BEEN MOVED TO NO. 3. AND CHARLOTTE, 4 SOUTH CAROLINA HAS MOVED UP TO NO. 2. 5 SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK VERY HARD TO GET 6 OUR RANKING UP AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT WE 7 WILL HAVE TO WORK ON THAT. 8 ALSO, I WANTED TO COMMEND THE BOARD AND THE 9 COLLEGE AND THE FACULTY AND STAFF BECAUSE WE MADE A LOT OF 10 PEOPLE HAPPY THIS SUMMER. AND THE HAPPINESS CAME FROM THE 11 SLOGAN, SUMMER SCHOOL IS BACK. THERE WAS JUST JOY ON THE 12 CAMPUS. I SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THE CAMPUS. IT WAS JUST 13 WONDERFUL TO SEE SO MANY SMILING FACES AND STUDENTS SO 14 HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE COURSES THAT THEY REALLY NEEDED 15 TO TAKE. 16 SO WE SHOULD PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK ABOUT A 17 GOOD JOB THAT WE'VE DONE. AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR 18 EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OUR DUTY 19 TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ALWAYS A SUMMER SCHOOL AT CITY 20 COLLEGE OF SAN FRANCISCO. 21 AND HOPEFULLY, CHANCELLOR, WE WILL BE GETTING A 22 REPORT LIKE WE USED TO GET ABOUT SUMMER SCHOOL WHO 23 ATTENDED, WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, SO 24 WE WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT REPORT. 25 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANK YOU. AUGUST 25, 2011 149 1 TRUSTEE GRIER: THANK YOU. 2 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 3 TRUSTEE JACKSON. 4 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: HI, AND I WANT TO 5 PIGGYBACK ON TRUSTEES GRIER'S COMMENTS ABOUT SUMMER 6 SCHOOL. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE VERY HAPPY. AND I REALLY 7 WANT TO THANK OUR COLLEGE COMMUNITY HERE, YOU KNOW, FOR 8 REALLY MAKING THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE 9 TO. A LOT OF OTHER CAMPUSES DIDN'T HAVE SUMMER SCHOOL. 10 AND SO THE FACT THAT WE, ONCE AGAIN, MAKE ENORMOUS 11 SACRIFICES, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF OUR STUDENTS IS VERY 12 IMPORTANT. 13 I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE FACULTY, THE STAFF, 14 AND ADMINISTRATION. YOU KNOW, I MEAN I THINK THAT WE ARE 15 THERE AND THAT REALLY MADE SUMMER SCHOOL HAPPEN. 16 A LOT OF FOLKS I KNOW, YOU KNOW, GOT THE LAST 17 FEW UNITS THAT THEY NEEDED TO TRANSFER TO FOUR-YEAR 18 COLLEGES. THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO GOT THEIR START IN 19 SUMMER SCHOOL. AND SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND 20 IT REALLY SHOULDN'T GO UNDER THE RADAR THAT SUMMER SCHOOL 21 IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE AND TO THE STUDENTS. 22 I ALSO WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT I AM WORKING 23 ON A GED INITIATIVE. IT'S KIND OF MODELED AFTER WHAT WE 24 HAD BEEN WORKING ON PUTTING GED, YOU KNOW, IN THE 25 COMMUNITY AND SPREADING IT OUT. AUGUST 25, 2011 150 1 I KNOW THAT MIKE TERRA (PHONETIC), WHO IS THE 2 HEAD OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BUILDING TRADES, HAS CALLED FOR 3 SOME SORT OF WRAPAROUND ACCELERATED GED CLASSES TO REALLY 4 GET -- I MEAN IT'S REALLY TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK AND 5 TO GET PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ON THE CONSTRUCTION 6 SITES AND TO GET WORKING. 7 AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CRAFTED A RESOLUTION. IT 8 WAS NOT IN TIME TO ACTUALLY GET ON THIS AGENDA, BUT IT 9 ACTUALLY GIVES ME MORE TIME. I AM GOING TO BE WORKING 10 WITH JAN. AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY SITTING DOWN WITH FOLKS 11 AND SAYING, HEY, LET'S GET THIS GED INITIATIVE. AND I 12 ENVISION IT TO KIND OF PROVIDE OUTREACH AND WRAPAROUND 13 SERVICES. BECAUSE IF YOU NEED GED, YOU PROBABLY NEED A 14 LOT OF OTHER SUPPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, TO GET YOU THROUGH. 15 AND SO I WILL BE WORKING ON THAT THROUGH THE MONTH. 16 I WILL BE SHARING THAT WITH ALL FOLKS BECAUSE I 17 DO BELIEVE WE DO NEED A BIT OF UNITY WITHIN THIS COLLEGE. 18 AND I DEFINITELY HOPE TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR FOLKS NEXT 19 MONTH. 20 ANOTHER INITIATIVE WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON, THIS 21 IS KIND OF MODELED AFTER THE ESL WORKING GROUP THAT WE 22 HAVE BEEN HOSTING AT CITY COLLEGE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL 23 MONTHS IS A VESSEL PILOT PROJECT. THIS IS ANOTHER 24 INITIATIVE IN TERMS OF FOLKS GETTING BACK TO WORK. THE 25 VESSEL IS VOCATIONAL ESL. AND IT REALLY HELPS A LOT OF AUGUST 25, 2011 151 1 PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WORK. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS 2 BEEN A CONCEPT THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT AT THE ESL WORKING 3 GROUP OVER THE PAST TWO OR THREE MONTHS. 4 I AM GOING TO -- YOU KNOW, I'VE TAKEN ON THAT 5 PROJECT TO WORK ON. I WILL, ONCE AGAIN, BE WORKING WITH 6 ALL FOLKS WHO WORK ON VOCATIONAL EDUCATION AND ESL AND 7 REALLY REACH OUT TO PEOPLE TO MAKE A GOOD PILOT PROJECT 8 FOR PEOPLE TO WORK AT FOR THE GED INITIATIVE, NOT TO WORRY 9 THIS WILL REQUIRE NO NEW MONEY. I WILL BE USING THE 10 INNOVATION FUND THAT TRUSTEE NGO WISELY SET UP DURING THE 11 BUDGET PROCESS, SO I WILL BE USING THAT AS A SOURCE OF 12 REVENUE. 13 AND LASTLY, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, 14 ONCE AGAIN STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE DO 15 NEED TO BE UNIFIED, YOU KNOW, AS A CAMPUS COMMUNITY. I 16 WILL DO MY BEST THIS SEMESTER TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE 17 ARE UNIFIED, THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER, AND THAT, YOU 18 KNOW, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE 19 STUDENTS, AND IT REALLY IS ALL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AS 20 WELL. AND SO I DEFINITELY HOPE TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY. 21 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 22 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 23 TRUSTEE NGO. 24 TRUSTEE NGO: NO REPORT TONIGHT. 25 PRESIDENT RIZZO: NO REPORT, OKAY. AUGUST 25, 2011 152 1 LET'S SEE I HAD A FEW THINGS. I PARTICIPATED IN 2 FLEX DAY. I ENJOYED THE CHANCELLOR'S TALK. I ACTUALLY 3 LEARNED SOME THINGS THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. 4 BUT I LEARNED SOME THINGS FROM YOUR FLEX DAY 5 SPEECH. 6 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THANKS. 7 PRESIDENT RIZZO: WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OUR 8 BOARD RETREAT AS YOU BROUGHT UP. WE ARE LOOKING AT 9 SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. WE'LL DO THAT. AND THAT IS GOING TO 10 HAPPEN. DETAILS TO COME. 11 WHAT ELSE, THE BUDGET I WANTED TO MENTION AT THE 12 BUDGET COMMITTEE WE SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS ON ALL OF THE 13 DETAILS OF THE BUDGET. IT'S -- IT'S THE ISSUE WAS, YOU 14 KNOW, YET AGAIN, MORE CUTS FROM THE STATE, AND WE WEREN'T 15 EVEN TALKING ABOUT MIDYEAR CUTS. AND I JUST WANTED TO 16 TALK A MINUTE ABOUT THAT. 17 JUST DOING SOME LITTLE READING, I FOUND THAT 18 THIS STATE AND THIS COUNTRY IS DEFUNDING EDUCATION AT AN 19 ALARMING RATE. HIGHER EDUCATION, JUST HIGHER EDUCATION 20 NATIONALLY, IS EXPECTED TO DROP BY $5 BILLION IN THE 21 UNITED STATES THIS YEAR, $5 BILLION. 22 WE ARE NOW, BEFORE THAT 5 BILLION, WE ARE RANKED 23 37TH IN THE WORLD AS FAR AS EDUCATION SPENDING AS 24 PERCENTAGE OF THE GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, 37TH IN THE 25 WORLD, A $5 BILLION CUT. AND YET, WE ARE SURPRISED WHEN AUGUST 25, 2011 153 1 WE HEAR REPORTS THAT THE US MATH SCORES ARE NOT AS GOOD AS 2 THEY ARE IN SWEDEN OR SOME PLACE. WELL, YOU CAN'T CUT 3 EDUCATION BY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER 4 YEAR AND EXPECT BETTER RESULTS. 5 AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOLDING THE 6 PURSE STRINGS NEED TO KNOW THIS. THEY NEED TO HEAR THIS 7 FROM ALL OF US. 8 IN CALIFORNIA, WE HAVE BEEN DROPPING SO FAR 9 BEHIND THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IN EDUCATION SPENDING. THE 10 NATIONAL AVERAGE IS PRETTY BAD INTERNATIONALLY. 11 CALIFORNIA COMPARED TO NATIONALLY IS ALSO PRETTY BAD. 12 CALIFORNIAWATCH.ORG REPORTED THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET TO 13 THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, IT WOULD TAKE AN INCREASE OF 14 $15.4 BILLION TO THE CALIFORNIA EDUCATION BUDGET TO GET UP 15 TO THE AVERAGE OF THAT NATIONAL WHICH IS BELOW THE AVERAGE 16 OF THE INTERNATIONAL, 15.4 BILLION. THAT'S SCANDALOUS. 17 K TO 12 CLASSES WERE MORE THAN 50 PERCENT LARGER 18 THAN THE NATIONAL LARGER, 50 PERCENT LARGER. WE ALL KNOW 19 SUCCESS IS DIRECTLY RELATED -- STUDENT SUCCESS IS DIRECTLY 20 RELATED TO CLASS SIZE. 21 WHAT THE STATE HAS BEEN DOING IN ADDITION TO 22 THESE CUTS IS ASKING THE STUDENTS TO TAKE A LARGER AND 23 LARGER SHARE OF THIS BURDEN. YOU KNOW, OUR $20 COMMUNITY 24 COLLEGE FEE WENT UP TO $26 A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. IT'S 25 NOW $36 AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS TALKING ABOUT $46 AUGUST 25, 2011 154 1 NEXT YEAR. THIS IS HAPPENING WITH UC AND WITH STATE AS 2 WELL. 3 IN UC, I JUST READ IN THE SACRAMENTO BEE THAT IT 4 IS NOW A UC EDUCATION, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA EDUCATION 5 NOW COSTS MORE THAN THE AVERAGE MEDIAN PRICED HOME IN 6 SACRAMENTO. SO IT'S CHEAPER TO BUY A HOME IN SACRAMENTO 7 THEN TO GET AN EDUCATION IN A UNIVERSITY IN CALIFORNIA. 8 THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT. AND THIS HAS TO 9 CHANGE. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. 10 CHANCELLOR, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT? 11 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: I HAVE A COUPLE OF WORDS. 12 IT WAS GREAT TO SEE CLAUDIA LEE, WHO I THINK A 13 LOT OF YOU REMEMBER FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SHE WAS OUR 14 A.S. PRESIDENT AT OCEAN CAMPUS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. 15 CLAUDIA IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT GOOD WORK WE DO HERE AT 16 CITY COLLEGE. SHE WENT ON TO UCLA AND HAS COMPLETED HER 17 BACHELOR'S DEGREE AT UCLA AND IS CURRENTLY WORKING IN 18 SILICON VALLEY. AND, OF COURSE, I PUT THE PITCH IN THAT 19 SHE SHOULD COME BACK AND WORK FOR US. SO, HOPEFULLY, 20 CLAUDIA WILL BE WITH US SOON. 21 IN REGARDS TO THE SUMMER, IT WAS THE LARGEST 22 SUMMER IN THE HISTORY OF CITY COLLEGE. BUT ALSO THE 23 SPRING TERM WAS THE LARGEST SPRING IN THE HISTORY OF CITY 24 COLLEGE AS WELL. SO IT WAS VERY GRATIFYING TO BE ABLE TO 25 OFFER THAT. AUGUST 25, 2011 155 1 UNFORTUNATELY, GIVEN THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TO 2 DEAL WITH THIS YEAR AND ALSO MORE THAN LIKELY SOME EXTREME 3 CUTS THAT COULD COME AT MIDYEAR, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO 4 HAVE THAT KIND OF YEAR THIS YEAR. SO 2011-2012 IS GOING 5 TO BE CONSIDERABLY SMALLER IN EVERY RESPECT. AND IT'S 6 ACTUALLY A QUANTUM CHANGE. IT'S REALLY CONCEPTIONAL. WE 7 HAVE TO GET OUR MINDS AROUND IT. WE WERE GROWING RAPIDLY 8 TO TRY TO ACHIEVE ENROLLMENT GROWTH LAST YEAR, BUT NOW WE 9 ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DECELERATE AND SHRINK OUR CLASS 10 OFFERINGS AT THE COLLEGE. IT'S JUST A FACT THAT ALL OF US 11 ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET USED TO. AND IT'S DIRECTLY 12 RELATED TO WHAT THE STATE IS DOING IN TERMS OF DEFUNDING 13 COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 14 THAT IS WHY IT IS SO CRITICAL FOR US TO GET A 15 PARCEL TAX. IT'S NOT GOING TO HELP US THIS YEAR, BUT IT 16 WILL HELP US NEXT YEAR. THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR 17 US TO FOLLOW A STRATEGY AND PLAN TO ENSURE THAT OUR 18 EMPLOYEES, ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES WERE NOT BEING LAID OFF OR 19 DECIMATED DURING THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BECAUSE HAD 20 THEY BEEN, WE WOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION TODAY TO PUT 21 FORTH A VERY STRONG ACADEMIC PROGRAM. 22 WE ARE LOOKING AT CUTTING AS MUCH AS ONE AND A 23 HALF TO TWO PERCENT OF OUR PROGRAMS. OTHER COLLEGES, 24 OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE TALKING ABOUT 8 PERCENT, 25 9 PERCENT, 10 PERCENT CUTS IN THEIR ACADEMIC OFFERING. WE AUGUST 25, 2011 156 1 ARE NOT DOING THAT. THIS COLLEGE HAS GONE THE EXTRA MILE. 2 AS A MATTER OF FACT, BY GETTING THE GROWTH 3 ENROLLMENT LAST YEAR, THE FACULTY, THE CLASSIFIED, THE 4 ADMINISTRATION, THE BOARD WORKING ALTOGETHER HAS ENSURED 5 THAT WE WILL HAVE A YEAR THIS YEAR THAT WILL NOT BE 6 TOTALLY WHAT WE WANT, BUT DEFINITELY WILL BE ADEQUATE. IT 7 DEFINITELY WOULD BE ADEQUATE, NOT TOTALLY WHAT WE WANT. 8 SO I WANT TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED 9 IN TERMS OF MAKING THIS A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS. 10 AND AS YOU GO ACROSS THE CAMPUS, THE MORALE OF 11 THE STUDENTS IS INCREDIBLY HIGH THIS TERM GIVEN THAT THEY 12 FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY OF THEIR LIVES, I'M TALKING 13 ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES, THEY ARE COMING INTO THE 14 COLLEGE AND FINDING THE ENGLISH CLASSES AND THE MATH 15 CLASSES AND THE SOCIAL SCIENCE CLASSES THE FIRST SEMESTER 16 THAT THEY ARE HERE. WHEREAS MANY YEARS THEY WOULD HAVE TO 17 WAIT FOR SEVERAL SEMESTERS BEFORE THEY COULD GET INTO 18 THESE CORE CLASSES. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A LOT 19 TO ADJUST THE WAY IN WHICH WE DO BUSINESS THANKS TO THE 20 EQUITY INITIATIVES AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY PULLING 21 TOGETHER TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. WE ARE NOW ACTUALLY 22 TREATING OUR 18, 19, 20 YEAR OLD POPULATION, THE WAY THAT 23 THEY SHOULD BE TREATED IN TERMS OF A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. 24 SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS. AND, HOPEFULLY, GOOD 25 NIGHT. AUGUST 25, 2011 157 1 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU, CHANCELLOR. 2 ARE THERE ANY CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENTS? 3 COUNSEL BATTISTE: NO, MR. PRESIDENT, THERE ARE 4 NO ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM CLOSED SESSION. 5 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THANK YOU. 6 REQUESTS TO SPEAK, WE HAVE TWO. WE HAVE RICH 7 COPENHAGEN. 8 MR. COPENHAGEN: BOARD MEMBERS, CHANCELLOR, MY 9 NAME IS RICH COPENHAGEN. I AM THE STUDENT TRUSTEE FOR THE 10 PERALTA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE 11 REGIONAL SENATOR REPRESENTING YOUR STUDENTS AT THE STUDENT 12 SENATE FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES. 13 AND THOSE TITLES I JUST GIVE YOU TO, HOPEFULLY, 14 ADD A LITTLE OUNCE OF CREDIBILITY TO MY FOLLOWING 15 STATEMENTS: 16 THE FIRST ONE I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO COMMEND 17 YOUR BOARD TODAY ON WHAT I FELT WAS A MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE 18 AND COHERENT MEETING THEN THE LAST ONE WHICH I WAS AT, BUT 19 I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES DRIVING THAT ONE 20 AS WELL. AND THIS TIME I AM NOT COMING TO A 12:00 O'CLOCK 21 SO, HOPEFULLY, THAT'S MAKING IT A LITTLE NICER FOR YOU. 22 THE SECOND ACCOMMODATION WILL BE FOR STUDENT 23 TRUSTEE FANG WHO HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK OUTREACHING TO THE 24 OTHER STUDENT TRUSTEES AROUND HERE GETTING CONNECTED. IN 25 FACT HE WILL BE ATTENDING OUR BOARD MEETING, PLEASE, IN AUGUST 25, 2011 158 1 EXCHANGE FOR MY ATTENDANCE. NO, HE HAS BEEN GOING AROUND 2 I THINK. HE WENT DOWN TO SAN MATEO THE OTHER DAY. AND, 3 HOPEFULLY, HE WILL BE BRINGING THAT EXPERIENCE AND THAT 4 KNOWLEDGE BACK TO YOU GUYS. 5 NOW FOR A FOLLOW UP ON LAST MONTH'S COMMENTS. 6 PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURAL -- I JUST WANT TO BE SUPER QUICK. 7 I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT PARLIAMENTARY 8 PROCEDURE. BUT JUST AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND AN 9 EXPERIENCED OR AT LEAST RELATIVELY EXPERIENCED PERSON WITH 10 PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. 11 IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE UNDERSTANDABLE FOR ALL OF 12 US WHEN CERTAIN THINGS ARE ADHERED TO AND JUST THE TWO 13 THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TOUCH ON TODAY IS THE "SO MOVED" 14 ISSUE. IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE PUBLIC TO 15 UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING MOVED WHEN THE PRESIDENT 16 SUGGESTS SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A FULL MOTION. 17 AND THEN SOMEONE SAYS, "SO MOVED" AND THEN IT'S A SECOND 18 AND THEN IT'S A VOTE AND ALL OF SUDDEN IT'S IN THE 19 MINUTES. AND THE PUBLIC IS SAYING, I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW 20 WHAT JUST HAPPENED, AND I'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM. 21 AND LUCKILY FOR YOU, I TOTALLY FORGOT MY SECOND 22 POINT. SO I WILL SPARE YOU THAT ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 23 FOR YOUR TIME. 24 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 25 KAREN SAGINOR. AUGUST 25, 2011 159 1 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS WAS A 2 WONDERFULLY PRODUCTIVE MEETING THIS EVENING. 3 ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD IN DISCUSSION ABOUT 4 THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE FUTURE, I HEARD SOME 5 DISCUSSION ABOUT CURRICULUM ISSUES IN TERMS OF THE POLICE 6 ACADEMY THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE TAUGHT, THAT 7 WE WANT COMMUNITY INPUT INTO WHAT SORTS OF THINGS THEY 8 SHOULD BE TAUGHT. I HEARD SOME TALK ABOUT REGISTRATION 9 RESTRICTIONS. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WE 10 WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS, THAT BESIDES WORKING WITH 11 INDIVIDUAL FACULTY, WE WILL BE EXPECTING TO WORK WITH YOU 12 THROUGH THE ACADEMIC SENATE THROUGH THE SHARED GOVERNANCE 13 PROCESS. 14 YOU WILL FIND IN THE SHARED GOVERNANCE PROCESS, 15 FOLKS WHO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND FAMILIARITY WITH 16 TITLE V REGULATIONS AROUND CURRICULUM AND ALL KINDS OF 17 OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AROUND THIS. SO WE ARE LOOKING 18 FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS. 19 AND ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS -- I 20 GUESS THAT'S IT. 21 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU THIS EVENING IF YOU 22 WOULDN'T MIND TO PLEASE ADJOURN THE MEETING IN HONOR OF 23 WINNIE LEONG, A LONG-TIME FACULTY MEMBER WHO RETIRED IN 24 2007. SHE TAUGHT IN FOREIGN LANGUAGES FOR MANY YEARS AND 25 SHE PASSED RECENTLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AUGUST 25, 2011 160 1 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND, KAREN, I JUST 2 WANTED TO FOLLOW UP AND I TOTALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING 3 WITH YOU GUYS ON THIS ISSUE. JUST ALSO KNOW THAT, YOU 4 KNOW, THERE IS A -- YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME SENSITIVE. 5 OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER UNTIL THE TEMPORARY, YOU 6 KNOW, THE TEMPORARY EXTENSION IS SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET 7 INTO THAT SAME ISSUE IF IT TAKES LONGER. 8 SO I TOTALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU 9 AND THE SHARED GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE WITH THAT, BUT ALSO 10 KNOW THAT THERE'S A TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE BECAUSE IN 11 JANUARY, THOSE CLASSES ARE GOING TO START WITH OR WITHOUT 12 OUR INPUT IN IT. 13 MS. SAGINOR: THANK YOU. 14 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: SO I WILL DEFINITELY 15 REACH OUT AND WORK ON THIS. 16 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 17 ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? 18 MR. SCOTT: I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT -- 19 PRESIDENT RIZZO: COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, 20 PLEASE. 21 MR. SCOTT: RODGER SCOTT, AGAIN. WE HAVE A 22 THOUSAND PETITIONS. YOU ARE WELCOME -- FOR THE OIL 23 EXTRACTION TAX INITIATIVE. AND THE ONLY BIT OF 24 INSTRUCTION PEOPLE NEED TO REMEMBER IS THAT THERE ARE 25 FIVE -- THERE'S ROOM FOR FIVE SIGNATURES -- FIVE NAMES AND AUGUST 25, 2011 161 1 SIGNATURES. THEY ALL HAVE TO BE FROM THE SAME COUNTY. IF 2 THEY ARE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES, SOME OF THEM WILL BE 3 INVALIDATED. SO WE HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THESE AND HAVE THEM 4 SIGNED. THE CHANCELLOR HAS ALREADY ASKED FOR 100, SO I 5 THINK YOU CAN FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE. THANK YOU. 6 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 7 CHANCELLOR GRIFFIN: THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH BY THE 8 WAY. 9 MR. SCOTT: I AM SORRY, 500. THANK YOU VERY 10 MUCH. 11 PRESIDENT RIZZO: OKAY, THAT -- 12 VICE PRESIDENT JACKSON: AND I AM SO SORRY. YOU 13 ARE GOING TO HATE ME. 14 I ALSO HAVE A LETTER HERE FOR THE TRUSTEES. 15 IT'S ABOUT CLOSE THE HEALTH CARE LOOPHOLE. A FEW YEARS 16 BACK WE PASSED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO. 17 THE MECHANISM IS THAT WORKERS ACCRUE HEALTH CARE, BUT IN 18 THIS -- BUT IN A LOT OF RESTAURANTS HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO, 19 A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THAT ARE WORKED BY CITY COLLEGE 20 STUDENTS, THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY BEING TOLD ABOUT THE 21 HEALTHCARE THAT THEY ARE ACCRUING. 22 AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE RESTAURANT 23 IS ACTUALLY TAKING BACK THOSE HEALTHCARE CREDITS OR 24 HEALTHCARE HOURS. AND SO THEY ARE CHARGING CUSTOMERS A 25 SURCHARGE OF UP TO $5, YOU KNOW, PER MEAL AND SAYING THAT AUGUST 25, 2011 162 1 IT'S GOING TO HEALTH CARE. AND IN REALITY, IT IS ACTUALLY 2 A NICE BUMP IN THE RESTAURATEUR'S WALLET, WHICH I DON'T 3 MIND SMALL BUSINESS MAKING A PROFIT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU 4 ARE TELLING THE CUSTOMER IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO TO 5 HEALTHCARE, IT SHOULD GO TO HEALTHCARE FOR WORKERS. A LOT 6 OF THOSE WORKERS BEING CITY COLLEGE STUDENTS. 7 SO I AM ASKING -- I HAVE A LETTER HERE. I AM 8 ASKING OUR TRUSTEES, AND I'VE ALREADY GIVEN IT TO OUR TWO 9 BARGAINING UNITS AS WELL, TO SIGN OFF ON AND, YOU KNOW, 10 THERE WILL BE A TOWN HALL MEETING SEPTEMBER 10TH. SO I 11 HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. I AM GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU GUYS. 12 THANK YOU. 13 PRESIDENT RIZZO: THANK YOU. 14 THAT IS THE END OF OUR AGENDA. AND WE WILL 15 ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF WINNIE LEONG. 16 WE ARE ADJOURNED. 17 (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:59 P.M.) 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 AUGUST 25, 2011 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I, THE UNDERSIGNED, A DULY AUTHORIZED CERTIFIED SHORTHAND REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING PROCEEDINGS WERE TAKEN DOWN BY ME IN STENOTYPE AND THEREAFTER TRANSCRIBED INTO TYPEWRITING BY COMPUTER, UNDER MY DIRECTION AND SUPERVISION, AND THAT THIS TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE RECORD OF THE SAID PROCEEDINGS. DATED: SEPTEMBER 16, 2011 ______________________________ MICHELE M. SHEA, CSR NO. 11345 STATE OF CALIFORNIA